Somewhere in the Skies - Encounter with Alien Mummies (w/ Zelia Edgar)

Episode Date: April 17, 2026

In 1952, a businessman from Peru claimed to come into contact with strange, mummy-like beings from a hovering UFO near Lomo de Ballena. Subscribe to Just Another Tin Foil Hat: https://www.youtube....com/@JustAnotherTinFoilHat Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: http://www.buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ PayPal: sprague51@hotmail.com Substack: https://ryansprague.substack.com/ All Socials and Books: https://linktr.ee/somewhereskiespod Email: ryan.sprague51@gmail.com SpectreVision Radio: https://www.spectrevision.com/podcasts Opening Theme Song by Septembryo Closing Song by Per Kiilstofte Livestream Music by Punch Deck: https://www.youtube.com/@PunchDeck Copyright © 2026 Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. #Aliens #Mummies #Peru #TinFoilHat #UFOs #UFOlogy #UFOSighting #AlienEncounter #StoryTime #Storytelling #SomewhereintheSkies Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:26 Marvel television's Daredevil, Born Again, now streaming only on Disney Plus. He raced across the sand trying to reach the shimmering object. As he approached, three strange beings emerged. He said they looked like mummies. Welcome to Just Another Tinfoil hat with your host, Zilia Edgar. Join Zilia as she walks us through some of the most bizarre UFO cases and incidents of high strangeness. Well, good evening to my fellow tinfoil hats. I am just another tinfoil hat.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Welcome to my show. Today we'll be discussing the fascinating case of the Lomo de Biana Mummies. Now, this is a weird case, and occurred despite incorrect reporting on the part of the Soul Witness in 1952. At the emergent peak of the contactee movement, and as we'll see, this case is weird, and it just gets weirder in a very space brotherly way. So, put on your seatbelts and keep your hands and feet in the saucer, because this is going to be a wild ride. The sole witness to this strange event, and believe me, it is a strange event, was a man known only by his initials CAV. At the time of this occurrence, he worked for a lot of,
Starting point is 00:02:43 oil company in Peru and he was about 30-some years old. On this particular day, sometime in February or March of 1952, he was driving in his car from Pukasana to Lima. He was actually returning from the scene of a crash of one of his trucks which had gone over a sand dune and was badly damaged. Finally, after helping to haul it out with some other trucks, he was going back home, driving along the Pan American Highway near a place called Loma de Biana. The sea was left of him and the hills to the light.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Suddenly he saw something strange near the foot of a sand hill to the right of the road. This something strange was a saucer-like object, and V, as he's referred to in the April questioning line, got out of his car and began running towards it. Now this proved to be problematic as he thought that the hills and therefore the object were a lot closer to the road than they actually were. However, he soon found out that they were actually a good ways off. He said that he thought it was just about 220 yards. It actually was about 550 yards.
Starting point is 00:03:40 but as he closed the distance between himself and the disc, he saw that it was hovering stationary about six feet off the ground, and at first appeared to be the color of the surrounding sand but shining, and roughly the size of a bus. However, when he got closer, he realized that the disc was actually a very bright, reflective gray color, possibly just reflecting them with sandy surroundings. Although feeling extremely frightened, the witness continued walking towards the object. He claimed that he had just heard about flying saucers in passing, and considered this a rare occurrence.
Starting point is 00:04:10 He said that he just wanted to find out more about it. Somehow, he remembered arriving at the disc, though this portion of the encounter is rather, in his words, confused in his memory. As he came within about 20 yards of the object, he claimed that he saw them get out. Now, what he meant exactly by them, we will get to in a second, but first we'll deal with how they emerged from the disc. Signor V said that he didn't know how they came out of the object,
Starting point is 00:04:35 as there was no door. Now, after they emerged from the object, he claimed to see some sort of opening in the disc, which had lowered from about six feet off the ground to about, quote, the height of a chair. Now, it would do very well at this point to mention that the chapter that contained this case in UFOs over the Americas by Jim and Coral Lorenzen was called appropriately the flesh crawlers. So V said that these beings, three in total, resembled mummies, each one's standing a little shorter than he was, with one appearing to be slightly taller than the other two. He claimed that each had a kind of humanoid outline, but with joined legs.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I will quote one of the best descriptions of strange entities that I have ever read. In trying to describe the legs, V said, Have you ever seen twin bananas? You see the form of both bananas, but they are joined together. So this terminated in one large foot. V claimed that they had no eyes, ears, genitalia, nothing. Just this mummy-like form with one big foot. their arms had this kind of conjoined look as well, with the four fingers sort of merged together in a separate thumb like a mitten.
Starting point is 00:05:41 He said that the entirety of their bodies was covered, not in clothing, but in some covering of tally, sandy skin. There was a sort of kind of inclination of a nose, I guess you could say, and this was the only protuberance in skin. One opening, however, in this weird, wrapped texture was this oblong space of some transparent and jelly-like substance with a bubble in the center, right where the eyes would have been. Now, throughout the encounter, he said that they made a series of odd noises between each other, which was different from the speech that they communicated to him with. And communicate they did. We will get to that in a second.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Now, he said that these noises seemed like microphone noises, and that he couldn't tell which one they came from, only that by the pauses in this conversation, it seemed as though they were kind of questioning and answering each other or conversing with each other. He also said that they could, quote, transfer liquids from one to another simply by placing their shoulders together. The witness says that they moved gracefully as dancers, gliding along the ground towards him. He also continued towards them both parties kind of meeting in the middle. V spoke first,
Starting point is 00:06:44 asking the simple question, who are you? Now then the being spoke, and Vee said that it was as though they spoke perfect English with absolutely no accent, and as though the voice came through their bodies. They asked, where are we? When he responded that they were in South America, they began speaking in perfect, or as he said it, learned Spanish. Now, when V asked how they knew his language, they responded that they learned many things from the air, and this is where the encounter, Vee is very, very close towards the brotherly Brotherhood of Space Brothers. One of the first things that they brought up was strikingly close to take me to your leader.
Starting point is 00:07:20 They asked to see V's chief. Thinking that they meant the president, he tried to explain that situation to them and said that he was afraid that they would harm him. They said, much like any angel, we mean no harm, and began expounding the dangers of, guess what, atomic energy. He asked who their God was, and they replied mockingly, God, what God, eventually saying, we are like gods. They also told him that they extracted their energy from the sun, they produced water from the humidity in the surrounding air, and that they produced asexually, and had overcome all fighting and jealousy, and pretty much lived in a perfect utopia, free of strife and pain. When V asked them how they could travel such long distances without coming to harm, they asked him to touch them. He immediately embraced one and described the texture of this, again, utopian being free of all strife and jealousy as Biscuity.
Starting point is 00:08:12 After another harangue about atomic energy, the beings invited him into their craft. He said that it was completely empty on the inside, just devoid of any detail, almost like a balloon. He said that there was absolutely no structural detail, no instruments or furniture, except for a ledge that, encircled the entire interior of the craft, which when he touched it, he said felt like the padded arm of an armchair. Now, V had been in the army. He came from a Navy family, so he was very well acquainted with the interiors, helicopters, planes, tanks, even submarines, and he said that this was vastly different from any of those. The interior of the craft appeared transparent, and he could see his surroundings as clearly as though he were outside. However, it's interesting to note
Starting point is 00:08:53 that he couldn't exactly remember seeing the sun from inside of it. Both the roots, and Floor followed the curvature of the disc, and presently he claimed that he felt the disc moving. At this stage, he realized that there was no more opening in the craft. They flew out over the sea, cruised over the road, and told him that, due to their particular body chemistry, they could withstand sharper maneuvers than he could. So then they returned to the same area. When they finally set back down, one of the entities decided to display their means of reproduction by lying down, dividing in the center, and forming into two smaller entities.
Starting point is 00:09:27 One of these, V actually tried to restrain by hugging it. He imagined that he could have proof of this encounter and become rich, if only he could capture one of these things. However, it released this soapy substance and kind of shimmied out of his grasp. Now this ushered the end of the encounter, the beings, now all four of them after their little multiplication trick, re-entered the disc with the promise to return the next day. The disc then rose and flew off over the sea, leaving only a series of undulating marks in the sand, and the witness covered in sweat and shaking uncontrollably to leave the scene and return home where he promptly went to bed. Now, I feel like it's worth mentioning at this stage that Sniar V admitted that it was possible that it could have been some sort of hallucination,
Starting point is 00:10:09 although he had never suffered such a spell before and actually said that he wished he could believe that it was a hallucination. He wished that he could just chalk it up to that, but it still just bothered him. I mean, think about it, it was 15 years later in 1967 when he was talking to an April representative about this. And he still couldn't fully say, yes, I know it was some sort of hallucination. He still felt that there was that inkling that something had actually occurred. And even at the time, he did go back the next day to see if the craft and strange beings would return. And as you probably expected, they did not. Eventually, Signor v. underwent that old devil regression hypnosis to try and figure out exactly, you know, everything about his experience.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Whether it was a hallucination, a real event, you know, what. And before we go on, I will just say this. Hypnosis is a tricky, tricky business. For people looking like Senior V was, for objective confirmation or to sort out whether an event was real or unreal, this seems to be, in my opinion, one of the worst ways to go about it, because there is such a propensity for the accidental implantation of false memories and false beliefs in the hypnotic process. On the flip side, there is a precedent for hypnosis to provide a less filtered glimpse into the subconscious, which, considering the dreamlike quality of many of these anomalous experiences, I believe that, you know, it is at least worth mentioning here what he came up with.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And what he told them was pretty much just a recap of everything he had told investigators, while unhypnotized, except that while hypnotized, he was insistent that it was a real event, something he witnessed and did not imagine. On the flip side, the investigator for the case, Richard Greenwald, came away from the hypnotic session believing that the event was hallucinatory, although also believing that the witness did believe in what he was saying. You said this place was steps from the water. We just haven't found the steps yet.
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Starting point is 00:13:24 I mean, I know that we cover a lot of bizari and just another tinfoil hat, but this one, it definitely fits the bill, but it has some aspects that I don't bring up as often on this channel, such as the very space brotherly contact scenario, as well as regression hypnosis, but here we are today. As I mentioned before, and I won't harp on the subject for too long. I won't haranguing on it like atomic energy from the space brothers. Hypnosis is tricky. I think that the biggest use for it, it's extremely useful in determining authenticity of the witness, not so much the authenticity of the event, meaning I think it's pretty much useless in determining if an anomalous event happened objectively in the world,
Starting point is 00:14:04 which in my highly strange opinion isn't really the full merit of an experience, considering that so many anomalous occurrences seem to exist at a crossroads between subjective experience and objective occurrence. So we could say that hypnosis helps determine if a witness believed they experienced what they claimed, rather than helping determine where on that spectrum of reality or objectivity, the event occurred. Now, regarding any experience, though, considering how malleable the witness's recollection can be in hypnosis, the hypnotist has to be extremely careful not to contaminate the statements at all with even the vaguest of leading questions or statements of belief. Here, however, we have the benefit of senior view's statement prior to and during,
Starting point is 00:14:45 the hypnotic regression and it matched. It's not something that he had to retrieve with hypnosis. The biggest difference is just his insistence of his fear, which he hinted at in the original statement. And Greenwald and the hypnotist, Mr. Garcia, really trying to find out where the beings came from, which the witness could not remember. So we see here that he really didn't tend to embellish much at all in his hypnotic regression. It was pretty much just a restatement of facts with a little bit more emotion added in. Now, aside from the hypnosis, angle of this case, it's a very, very odd case. The main thing that attracted my attention to was the description of the beings as looking like mummies. Many researchers have tied the
Starting point is 00:15:25 appearance of these strange wrinkled beings with another classic of high strangeness, the infamous Pascagoula abduction. And with good reason, the Pascagoula entities were said to have grayish, wrinkly elephant-like skin, the fused single foot, and also mittany hands, nearly identical to these guys here. Now, the description of wrinkled or folded fabricy skin is something something that comes up from time to time in other bizarre humanoid encounters. There was another case out of Pennsylvania with a very similar description where the skin of the entities almost look like bandages or folded fabrics. And as usual, we see a precedent in much folklore worldwide, usually pertaining to magical
Starting point is 00:16:01 beings which appear ancient. Here, too, we have a very strong iconographical tie to the dead. The description of the beings as appearing like mummies. Other descriptions under this icon umbrella include descriptions of entities. as corpse-like, or closer to mummies as shrouded, as in the burial shroud, which can be observed from the Malaysian pochang to the Irish banshee. This connotation of denizens of the other world to those of the land of the dead seems to be a very integral part of paranormal experience. Speaking also of iconographical ties, it's interesting that we see a very similar motif reflected in both the entities and the craft in this case. the craft observed is this somewhat transparent or reflective, almost appearing transparent disk with a roundish opening, also transparent, and in the center of the being's face is this transparent oval of jelly, in the center of which was the also transparent bubble.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Now, so often in these cases, both kind of aspects or angles of the encounter, the entity and the craft, for instance, share these iconographical or almost graphic aspects. They seem to reflect each other in some way. In this case, it's of note that this simple combination of shapes of the larger disc with the circle greatly resembles an eye, which of course is one of the most prevalent icons across religious, magical, or alchemical systems, and of course in high-strained mis-encounters. A large part of this encounter correlates to the contactee movement of the mid-century, these benevolent utopian beings and especially their warnings about atomic energy. It seems that in high-contact encounters, the being
Starting point is 00:17:38 message seems to reflect societal concerns, perhaps giving form and voice to the collective unconscious. Before we sign off for the day, I will bring up again. So often on this channel, we discuss cases that seem to exist at some crossroads between the real and the dreamlike, and often this becomes very paradoxical, with trace evidence or other observers lending credence or perhaps credibility to the fact that something seemingly impossible to happen. you know, on some objective level in the world, in reality that they can also observe. In this case, there was no such external confirmation. There was just one witness who, at first, believed it may have been a hallucination.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Eventually, he came to believe that it wasn't, and he never could fully accept that as the answer. You know, even though the original investigator did believe at the end of the day that it was hallucinatory. So that's why, that's a big reason why I held off on doing this case for a long time, even though it is a fantastic case of contact. However, given the strong patterns that exist in this case to other high strangeness encounters, I thought it was important to talk about here, too, because, again, we handle a lot of weird stuff on this channel. And in my opinion, I think that the merit of high strangeness research,
Starting point is 00:18:52 particularly in the paranormal, the willingness to look at all of these very, very strange, these more fringe encounters, is really kind of pushing the boundaries of what will we accept? When will we say this is no longer of use to us? And I try to keep a very open mind with that. So especially too in this case, given that the witness was simply so affected by the encounter, this effect on a life,
Starting point is 00:19:17 this very human effect, is simply as indelible a trace as any other. Well, if you enjoyed this episode on the Lomo de Biana Mummies, please like. And if you're new to this field of crop circles, go ahead and subscribe to see what weirdness the future may have in store. Until then you can keep up with my free blog at patreon.com slash just another tinfoil hat. And be sure to check out somewhere in the skies for all of your very best in anomalous listening.
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