Somewhere in the Skies - 🎄 Holiday Livestream: Grusch & Elizondo WARN Trump About UFOs, Suzanne's EMOTIONAL Near Death Experience, YOUR Pets in the Spotlight ❄️

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

On a special holiday edition of the livestream, we’re diving into the latest UFO news. All Buy Me a Coffee and PayPal donations for this episode will benefit Seventh Heaven Rescue and FOUR PAWS International, helping animals in need both locally and around the world. We’ll cover cryptic Steven Spielberg billboards, efforts to bring UFO research into academia, new Disclosure Foundation appointments, Tim Gallaudet on USOs, David Grusch’s latest claims, Luis Elizondo’s warning of a major future event, and new research on near-death experiences. Suzanne also shares her powerfully emotional near death experience. In the second half, we feature YOUR pets from the Somewhere in the Skies community! Happy Holidays and keep looking up! Please take a moment to rate and review us on Spotify and Apple. Book Ryan on CAMEO at: https://bit.ly/3kwz3DO Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: http://www.buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ PayPal: [e-mail] All Socials and Books: https://linktr.ee/somewhereskiespod Email: [e-mail] SpectreVision Radio: https://www.spectrevision.com/podcasts Opening Theme Song by Septembryo Copyright © 2025 Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. #livestream #christmas #uap #UFOs #UFOcommunity #ChristmasMystery #HolidaySightings #FestivePhenomena #CosmicChristmas #XmasLightsInTheSky #AnomalousNoel #WinterWitness #YuletideEncounters #HolidayUAP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Spector Vision Radio. Hey, everybody. Papa Sprague here in Syracuse, New York. We have the pleasure of having Ryan home visiting us this week. And we just wanted to say happy holidays to all you wives. streamers. We appreciate it. And just Merry Christmas to all of you. I'm Christy. I'm Ryan's favorite sister. Only sister. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. And keep looking up. While our government's official position is not to speculate on this subject, we can choose to let

our minds. For if we consider that astroscientists agree on one point that the possibility of Life elsewhere is not only quite close them that these objects are real space vehicles. Extraterrestrial origin and not an illusion of the mind. There's nothing to hide at all. Welcome to somewhere in the live stream. I am Santa Claus I have invaded this live stream for today. Welcome, welcome everyone. very big cheers to all of you out there in somewhere in the live stream land you want to talk some

UFOs i don't know much about them but i will try tonight for all of you uh i can't do it anymore guys i can't this is so warm in this thing i don't know how santa claus does it i can barely hear anything you can see the screen in my glasses i got kids asking me for the most unreliable gifts ever all around the world. How am I supposed to do this all in one night? Anyways, welcome to somewhere in the live stream. I am your actual host. I promise, Ryan Sprague, in here somewhere.

Hold on, let me get all of this off for just a moment here. I just lost one of my AirPods in this wig. Oh, there it goes. You get to watch this in real time. happening. Oh, God. That was a lot. Give me one sec here. There's that one. There's that one.

Okay. Okay. Can you hear me? Can everyone hear me? Okay. Welcome to the train wreck that is our holiday special here at somewhere in the live stream. I know we haven't done this in a while, guys, and I want to thank you for your patience and your understanding. I've been working. I've been working like a crazy man in Nova Scotia so much so that my microphone, it's not doing so well. It's in the repair shop right now. So I've got this little fun, clippy microphone.

It's probably terrible. I do apologize. But I thought I'd give it. I'd at least try. I'd at least try. tonight for you guys but welcome welcome to a very special somewhere in the live stream where we're going to break down the latest UFO news for you all tonight hello to all of our regulars in the chat um thank you to all of you who've been you know being like where's the live stream where's the

live stream i promise we'll try to get back into the swing and things once the holidays are over and the new year starts but um we had to do this one tonight i had to do it for you guys um you can see my little friend over here, if you're watching this, that is Lil O'Ryan, as you guys voted for names for my new little friend. He's my Christmas alien. So if you're watching this on YouTube, he'll be haunting, haunting you in the background there all night. I'm, I'm, I'm all over the place. I don't know what I'm saying, but thank you. Thank you for taking the time to be here tonight. Thank you to Doug Sprague and Christ. St. St. Sprague for that holiday greeting. I hope you guys liked that. They wanted to say hello to all of you.

And I'm just so blessed to be here with them for the holidays. I love my family more than I could possibly convey. They have always been my biggest supporters in life, in my weird choices with the stuff that you and me and all of us are interested in, that of UFOs. and I couldn't ask for a better dad, sister, mother, extended family, friends, supporters, that includes all of you. And, of course, our incredible moderator, Suzanne, who will be joining us in just a few moments. Suzanne and I have started a tradition. We get each other a gift every Christmas. And this year, she really outdid herself.

She sent us all this amazing food. from Santa Fe and I've already devoured most of the chocolate to my father's dismay. But she also got me this incredible book, El Mary by Andy Weir, which you guys probably know

is also going to be a movie coming out soon with Heart Throb himself, Ryan Gosling. But I've been wanting to read this for a while now. So I we just, our minds are linked and she knew. she knew so i cannot wait and i want to send a special thank you out to her and to bill for all

of the incredible gifts that they gave us it was extremely touching um and yeah yeah i got her a little something too we'll put some photos up on instagram and twitter and all that in the very near future for you guys but we have so much to get to tonight i've got my outline as usual so let me make sure I have that pulled up here. Oh, before we get to the news, before we get to the news, I currently have my two books, stories from somewhere in the skies and somewhere in the sky's a human approach to the UFO phenomenon. I have very limited copies of these in the U.S. that I can sign and personally inscribed for you guys. So if anyone is interested,

I'm only doing this in the U.S. right now. I do apologize to the U.K., to Europe, to Canada, wherever you're listening to from outside of the U.S. But if you do live in the United States, I can ship these out nationally for you before Christmas. But you have to let me know very, very soon, like within the next 48 hours in order for those to arrive by Christmas. But, yeah, I can sign them however you'd like, put special messages in there. You let me know. So if you're interested in either of my books, I have both of them available here and can ship them out to you,

ASAP, in the United States. So yeah, just hit me up on email or in personal message on Facebook, on Twitter, on Instagram. Best would be email, to be completely honest, Ryan.spreg51 at gmail.com. Thank you so much, Suzanne. She's on top of it. This is why she's the best.

And also, you guys are the best because you nominated me for two awards in the Parapod podcast awards this year. And we won both categories that we were nominated in. We were alongside some incredible shows, that UFO podcast, weaponized with Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp, a couple others. And guess what? We did it. We won. My awards. They shipped them here to my father's house in the U.S. So I'm going to show you guys these for the very first time. It's very hard to see because they're transparent. But we won Best UFO Podcasts. I don't know if I can get that any better for you. There we go. Best UFO podcast. And I personally somehow on a wing in a prayer won Best Podcast host. Overall, all categories. Paranormal, UFOs, conspiracies, true crime, you name it, we want it.

So I want to thank you guys so much. Oh, they light up. I forgot about that. Isn't that cool? Now you can actually see it. There you go. There you go. And this is because of you guys.

So thank you. I'm going to display these proudly. My special thanks and shout out goes out to the Parapod podcast awards for these. These are incredible. And I'm just so touched and proud of what we've accomplished here. That's somewhere in the skies throughout the year. So again, thank you. Thank you to you guys for all of that.

Cheers. Cheers to you. All right. A couple more things to talk shop before we start the news and bring Suzanne in. Tonight we are doing a very special donation drive. All super chats. All super stickers. All buy me a coffee donation.

and all PayPal donations tonight. We'll be going to the Seventh Heaven Rescue, which is a local dog rescue here in Syracuse, New York. But we will also be doing an international organization as well, and that is for Paws International for Animal Welfare Worldwide. So we'll be splitting any donations tonight between these two organizations. So some of your money will go to help a local place here in Syracuse where we actually got all three of our family dogs,

the Seventh Heaven Rescue. And if you're international and you feel like you'd rather that donation go a bit more all over the world, we'll also be donating a portion to Four Paws International as well. So again, we got so many options for you guys, super chats, super stickers, buy me a coffee and PayPal. We'll have QR codes up there on the screen for you to scan on your phone or links are in the show notes as well to donate on PayPal and buy me a coffee. But super chats and super stickers are the easiest way.

All super chats, all super stickers, all donations tonight will be going to these wonderful organizations. And the reason we picked pets is because the second half of the show today, guys, is all about your pets. That is right. We're going to be featuring all of your pets. Tonight, I had over, I think, 70 submissions for this or something like that. So if I don't have your pet up here, I'm so, so sorry.

But I've got most of them, I promise you. We're going to feature your pets that you sent to me later in the show. So be sure to stick around for the whole live stream. And we will make that happen. just making sure we are streaming everywhere we should be. Yes, we are. Okay. Just, that would have been, that would have been bad.

Okay. A couple things here. We got some new Spotify, messages, reviews, all that good stuff. So I'm going to feature some of these for you guys, and we're doing that for a reason. We have Laura MC says, excellent episode. These are all for our Rendersham Forest episode we did recently. So I hope you guys enjoyed that one.

That's one of my favorite episodes I've ever done in the podcast where we dive deep into the Randolsham Forest incident. As it happened over Christmas, I thought it was only appropriate. So thank you to Lauren MC, Laura, excuse me. Next, we have Finn Gann one who said such a wild case. Imagine actually having the experience of standing next to and touching a UFO minus the negative health effects. Thanks, Ryan. Well done. Thank you. Steg says great episode. Enjoyed it. We move over to our age of disclosure listener reaction and full review episode.

That was fun, guys. If you haven't listened to that episode, Suzanne's featured in there. We got Patrick over at Vetted. We've got Grant Lavak from the unexplained rundown and all of you listeners who voiced your opinions, whether through email or you sent me audio messages of your reviews of the Age of Disclosure documentary. So go back in the archives. You can listen to that now. These are really small on my screen.

so I'm going to try to read them. Good presentation. I like how you were not afraid to express your opinion, which seems to me to be contrarian. That's how I feel. There's just something not right about these types of people asking us to make this huge leap of faith because of their credentials.

Getting spicy. Yeah, I was pretty critical of the documentary, and I think with good reason. Yeah, we have a lot of really, really highly credentialed people in the doc. but put your money where your mouth is. You know, where's the proof? Where's the evidence? You know, we obviously are not the type of show

who strictly needs evidence for this stuff, but when you're coming out swinging like they did, there needs to be an aftermath, a response to all of this. So show us the proof. Winters as well on Spotify. You guys are funny. I know you eat, live, and beep. all of this stuff. But as a layman, it's

scary. This is legit for those that didn't know all of this was going on in the government. Very true. The doc was not for us. It was for the mainstream. And I 100% agree with that. So I cannot recommend enough watching The Age of Disclosure. Highly recommend everyone do that and come out with your own opinions. And you will hear those in our episode. So thank you. Christopher there says best comments so far, especially yours, Ryan, following.

That is extremely kind. Thank you. And then our good friend, James C, also said, enjoyed this overview. Agree with Grant, Mr. Bedded, and your take on the age of disclosure. But like it was stated, this film isn't for us. So, yep, yep, all good stuff there, guys.

We had a new Apple podcast review as well. And that came from El Marinerio Salado. And they said, great and informative episode on cases and stories from Puerto Rico. Oh my gosh, they went back into the archives. I did that episode like four years ago. Still one of my favorites. Oh, my God.

Thank you. El Marinerro Salado. As someone whose family is from Puerto Rico, it made me want to visit the island to check the specific spots. Moi is spooky. Trust me, Brokatsky. I love that. Thank you.

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Okay. Okay. Let's go to the news. This is an interesting story. I'm going to go through it really quick, and then I'm going to bring Suzanne in, because I want to know more thoughts. Cryptic billboards for Steven Spielberg's new movie

appear in Times Square in Los Angeles. This has been the talk of UFO Twitter all week, and I am eating it up. It is so, fun, people theorizing, and this is what good marketing does. And this is what Stephen Spielberg does best. And that's to leave us wondering and to gain momentum and intrigue for this new UFO movie that he has coming out. And I'm super excited for it.

And this billboard popped up right in Times Square. I know exactly what this is. It looks like it's maybe 43rd Street and, and, Broadway, they're 40, maybe 49th and 7th Ave. I clearly know my Times Square. I worked there for 13, 13 freaking years. But yeah, this popped up there. Other ones in L.A.

Mysterious billboards have appeared in Times Square and across Los Angeles, promoting what is believed to be Steven Spielberg's next film, though no official announcement has been made. The Stark Black displays feature an upside-down eye above the silhouette of an indistinct bird and the cryptic message all will be disclosed 61226.

With no title, no cast, and no information, the campaign has sparked widespread speculation online. The first trailer for this new movie will release in front of the new Avatar movie, which premieres on December 19th. Not too long, guys. December 19th is just around the corner. So we're going to know a little bit about this movie very soon with its first trailer. But again, these cryptic billboards have been everyone's theorizing online about what it could mean and what is the I mean and what is the bird.

If you're watching this here on YouTube, you're seeing on the left hand side there, some sort of bird, either a cardinal, a blue jay. I don't know, something in that sort of bird family. What does it mean? What does it all mean? There's the eye. There's like a circle around the eye in the bird. Why is the eye upside down? There's just so much weird, ambiguous stuff going on with this.

And people have even mentioned in the reflection of the eye, there seem to be orbs. Could they be UFOs? Could they be? There's also another bent light that looks like maybe a ceiling lamp, is it an abduction, alien abduction of some kind? Who knows? Who knows? But these things have got people talking and that's all you could ever ask for. For a movie that hasn't even been officially announced yet doesn't have a title and we know nothing about it. It's amazing.

It's amazing. So I want to get your guys thoughts in theories on what this poster could mean. what do you think put your thoughts theories comments in the comments of this video or in the live chat and maybe we'll feature them on here put them in the super chat as well and we'll definitely definitely get them up here on the screen for you um thank you so much to david dunger for the 499 super chat got to support the fur babies thanks for watching out for them ryan thank you david thank you you are the one watching out for them tonight so I appreciate you, appreciate the donation, and to all of you. Thank you, thank you, thank you, guys.

Okay, let's bring her in. She's going to be joining me pretty much all night. So behave in the chat, guys. We will be going back and forth, checking the chat, though, for your super chats and any comments that we star and whatnot. But I am going to get her on screen here and get her thoughts. Here we go. The one, the only season.

Landers, welcome. Hi, how in the world are you? And where in the world are you? Ryan Sprague. I'm in Syracuse, New York at the father's house. We had that wonderful holiday greeting from them earlier. Where are you? You were the one bouncing around. Oh, my gosh. I'm in Santa Fe for a while. I'm going to be here for a couple of months and sit very still. I feel like I've just been moving nonstop for months. Yep, I know that feeling quite well, quite well. I'll be leaving Syracuse here in just a little under a week and heading to California, Hawaii, Portland, Japan, New York City, Scotland, and then right back to Nova Scotia soon after that. I'm so glad I don't have to pack for that. Oh my gosh. You don't

want to know the stress I go through. I'm like, okay, I'm not going to be home for three and a half months. I'm going to every climate imaginable on the planet. How the heck do you pack for that? And somehow I did it. And it's not even a big suitcase. It's one of those ones that can fit above you on a plane. So smart. So smart to do it that way and just do some washing as you go. Exactly. I don't care. You know, I used to worry about having new clothes everywhere I go and not looking like I'm reusing everything. I don't care anymore. No one care. I'll be wearing this plaid shirt for the next three months straight. So get used to it, guys, and just pray that you're not next to me on a flight because I probably want to have time to watch it. Yeah, it's your turn to dance around the globe.

I'm glad it's not my turn. Yeah, but again, like, I will try to do these live streams as much as possible for everyone while, well, yeah, while the craziness ensues in 2020s hits us. but before 2026, Susan. Yes. I want to personally thank you for the gift that you sent to us. Thank you for much. My pleasure. My pleasure.

I'll be a big trip to Facebook page later on. Perfect. Thank you. But let's get your thoughts on this guy. The new Spielberg, Bilberg. What's a Billberg? Billboard. The Bilderbergs, yep.

Getting more conspiratorial. What do you think? What is the word? on with this post? I'm losing my mind over the bird. You know, we read and hear through the witness accounts and books and whatever so much about owls and UFOs and non-human intelligence, but what is this bird? I don't know what it means. And I have, I'm just going to go ahead and confess, I went in a deep dive around birds and UFOs. And I came up empty-handed on anything other than an owl. So maybe the chat knows something. Maybe.

Maybe they have thoughts on this particular bird. It does look like a cardinal or a j. But I think most intriguing, the bar in the eye over the iris, maybe that's a cigar-shaped UFO. Oh, interesting. I don't know. It's my microphone muffled. You're fine.

You're fine. You know you're not your usual fabulous one, but you're doing the best. Okay. I just wanted to make sure. Wow, I didn't think about that. Yeah, maybe it is a craft at some sort. Yeah, I don't know. I'm so excited, though.

I can't wait for this to come out. Yeah. So I didn't have time to put the full image, but in L.A., it's a little different. It's a blue eye. So people are like speculating, is it the same person? Is it a different character?

What is going on there? And I went back and forth. It's so funny because what I did, I flipped them both and then I mashed them together. And before I even put it on social media, I think I sent it to one of my buddies and I was like, this looks like a pilot. Like it looks like the mask, oxygen mask,

the pilots put it over. Like that. Stephen Green Street did the same thing. We must have been on the same wavelength. And he's like, could it be director of Alex Dietrich from the Tick from the Tick-Tac event. So this is how what... Yeah, it does look like her.

Well, and then you see the cast and you've got... I forget her name Emma. Is it Emma Watson? Guys, forgive me. I don't remember the characters in the new movie. But one of them is like a really well-known actress is apparently the lead character. So that could be interesting.

That could be really interesting. And what are you making of the blue eye and the brown eye? I don't know. Again, like, is this? Like hybridization? I did. I did think that. I was like, maybe this is a hybrid of some sort.

People have been, like, saying it's actually, the way it's tilted, it's actually an alien eye, even though it has an iris and like a people. But I don't know. Emily Blunt, thank you. Emily Blunt, thank you, Lucy. Yeah. That's so great. But some crazy.

crazy things. People are really having fun with it and have fun. That's what I want to say. There's, you know, there's, there's party poopers out there who are like, guys, it doesn't mean anything. It's a freaking movie. We know, we're not done. I saw you in a little Twitter fight on that subject. Yeah. That was me. That was me because you know what? Debbie Downers out there. I don't get UFOs aside. I'm like, it's a Spielberg movie. It's an event movie and it could have to do with aliens. let's just be exciting. Like, is this, are we being fed disclosure by Stephen Spielberg?

I don't know. Isn't that interesting, though? Isn't that chatter interesting? Yeah. It is. It is. And a lot of people do think that. And maybe there is some truth to it.

I don't know. I don't know. But this has got to talk. You know, advising. Yeah. Exactly. Who knows? Yeah.

Who knows? Who knows? But, yeah. That was our first story for the day. But this was a really interesting story that came out as well. I'm going to go ahead and read this, Suzanne. So bear with me as I get through this. This was the front page of USA Today.

A lot of people were sharing this story online as well. But I've got some information here about it that I'm going to read out. A group of researchers wants to make the study of UFOs. in academic discipline. So a growing coalition of scholars is working to bring UFO and UAP research into the academic mainstream, arguing that unexplained aerial phenomena deserve the same rigorous study as many other scientific mysteries. Led by philosopher of science, Michael Sifone, and supported by Michael Silberstein,

the Society for UAP Studies has convened international conferences that unite researchers from physics, philosophy, law, and humanities to build a serious stigma-free framework for investigation. Their goal is not to claim proof of ET life, but to create an open-disciplined space where anomalous data can be examined objectively, fostering a more hopeful and expansive view of humanity's place in the universe. The movement gained momentum through credible scientific engagement, including the work of physicists and former NASA researcher Kevin Knew. Despite the challenges of establishing a new field, the society reports growing interest and little resistance, reflecting a quiet confidence that by studying UAPs with rigor and neutrality, we move closer to responsibly exploring one of humanity's oldest questions, whether we are alone or not. So, yeah, pretty cool.

Whoops. Wrong screen. There we go. Wow, I'm all over the place. So what do you think? What do you think about this? UFOs are back, baby. They're back. And this serious study.

Finally, it's not just going to be the Soul Foundation. And I think we're going to see similar movement from several organizations like this. Why America does not have the equivalent of a Japan or what's the entity in Brazil, you know, government backed. It's just crazy that we are not giving this the study that other nations are. are and that we're not coming at it from a scientific perspective, except privately. But here we are again. We're doing another private rollout, and I'm grateful for it. So I do have a real sense. I'd love to know what you think about it, Ryan, that we've crossed a rubicon of sorts and in a positive way that basically the cat's out of the bag and they're not

going to be able to get that cap back in the bag. So I'm hoping all of these pieces of this puzzle come together in a way that continues to take away the stigma around it and to look at the science of it. What's happening? Absolutely. You know, we have people in the chat being like, isn't this kind of what Arrow was supposed to be doing? And in a sense, I'm with it. Yeah. I'm with it. It didn't happen, did it? Yeah. What I appreciate about, what this society is doing, though, is they transcend what Arrow is doing. You know, they're getting law involved.

They're getting philosophy involved. Arrow doesn't give a flying hoot about any of that stuff. You know, they, their national defense, like that is their only goal. That is the, they're not out to prove UFOs or alien, nothing like that.

Is this, uh, rival nation and is this a threat? We need to identify it and figure that out. Um, this is completely different. And I love the kind of collection of different people that they have involved. I mean, we've watched a few of their virtual conferences here on the channel and off the channel as well. And they do incredible work, absolutely incredible work.

So I think this is awesome. And they deserve to be on the front page. I have to stress that front page of a national United States newspaper USA today. Absolutely do. I would also say this rivals, this could rival the New York Times article in some ways. Not the, I think the far reach it will have. But it's rolling out this idea that, like they said in this article, that it's no longer. There's no resistance.

Exactly. Which is crazy. Exactly. It is. And we've watched it happen in our lifetimes, which is not. I just wouldn't have predicted that. But I think you're exactly right on the New York Times article. We cannot expect all of these entities to have the same impact as that article because that article was so groundbreaking in terms of taking basically a taboo subject, throwing the science at it and the military experts at it and breaking that subject open for the world.

And so that's going to always be a tip of a mountain for us, I think, you know, that day and time when that, that happened. And that's not going to be replaced until we get to an actual disclosure of non-human intelligence existence. Right. Exactly. And like you said earlier, there, something's going to happen. And I know we always say that, but I really do feel like we are heading towards, like you said, a Rubicon, a precipice, a paradigm shift, if you will, of something. I know there's some things going on again in the sort of bureaucratic government realm this upcoming year. I'm not at liberty to disclose what that is, but there will be a major event in Washington that will be taking place. You might be hearing this for the first time, guys.

A major event in Washington, D.C. will be taking place. And no, it is not a congressional UAP hearing. I can tell you that much. There might be some one, two of those throughout 2026, but I'm talking about an entirely different event that will be taking place in Washington, D.C. And when I first heard about it, it really excited me. So I'm so excited. UFOs are, we're going strong in the 2026. Fingers crossed.

It's about time. Fingers, exactly, exactly. You should back up clip on Mike Ryan. Don't know how long tonight before you get. of holding my microphone. I thought he meant my mic was clipping like it was too loud. Let me know what it is, guys. I don't, I have no idea of these things.

I know it's supposed to clip on, but I feel like I'm paranoid. But thank you, Robert. It's good to see you here, buddy. Good to see you here. Everybody, thank you guys. Just a reminder that all super chats and super stickers, buy me a coffee, PayPal, all that goes to two animal rescues today,

guys, one international, one local. here in New York, the Four Paas International, and also Seventh Heaven Rescue here in Syracuse, New York. We have PayPal and Buy Me a Coffee links in the show notes and QR codes as well. All donations will go to these organizations tonight for the holidays. So thank you, thank you, thank you. Cool. Anything else before we move to our next story, which you have a somewhat connection to you? Yeah, go for it.

Go for it. All right. We have, I'm so rusty with live stream with streaming because we haven't done this in a while. We have a story coming out about the Disclosure Foundation. The Disclosure Foundation has appointed new advisory members. So I'm going to read a little bit here, Susan. Here with me. The Disclosure Foundation today announced the appointment of Hell Putoff.

PhD, a physicist and research leader. And they also announced Carlos Ayer, PhD, a distinguished scholar of history and religion. Both of them have been appointed on the advisory board of the Disclosure Foundation. Their addition strengthens the foundation's multidisciplinary leadership at the intersection of national security, science and public understanding. Put-off brings more than five decades of, research and experience across government, academia, and the private sector. He currently serves as president and CEO of EarthTech International and director of the Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin.

Dr. I think it's Iyer, Iyer. Air, thank you, Suzanne. Dr. Air is a professor of history and religious studies at Yale University and a national book award-winning author, a leading scholar of the early modern. world comparative religion and the cultural history of belief, Dr. Air brings deep expertise on how societies interpret anomalous experiences. Wow. Interesting. The advisory board plays a central role in shaping the foundation's research priorities, legislative engagement, whistleblower support framework, and public education initiatives. Initiatives. Wow. So yeah, what do you think?

We've also got some quotes from some other members of the Disclosure Foundation, but I'll put those up on the screen. But what do you think, Suzanne, about these. I'm so excited. The whole organization is so excited about this. How put off, of course, needs no introduction or explanation about why this organization would want him, you know, decades and decades of work with big names, you know, and inside the government on exactly this topic. And then Dr. Eyre, I love this edition because very much like an anthropologist, you're going to watch him bring to the conversation how different parts of humanity react to news like this. So I just think it's an incredible addition and promises great things. Yeah.

You know, I can almost see these guys budding up against the UAP study society. as it were, and working with them in some senses, too. But, yeah. Let's get brains together with souls. Yeah. You know, let's put them all together. Exactly. I hope that happens. Now, put off is, I will admit, he's one of the more controversial people.

This guy's been involved with a lot of different UFO things throughout the years. He's got haters. He's got lovers. He's got that sounded wrong. I don't know if he has multiple lovers. That's not for me to disclose as it were. You're just doing illegal retraction on that stage. Right.

I'm going to get sued. Yes. I, yes. Thank you. As my lawyer, Suzanne has made it clear, guys. I am not saying that he'll put off as a polygamist. Wow. Wow.

No. We have gone off of Pips. I want to send a special shout out before she leaves to strange fractal for the super sticker. Thank you. So, thank you. That'll be going to help our little animals tonight. So thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Yeah.

We did have some quotes here from other members of the Disclosure Foundation. Primarily that of Christopher Mellon, who said, we're honored to welcome put off and air to our advisory board. Their combined scientific and historical perspectives will help guide the foundation's efforts to promote transparency

and strengthen public understanding. And on the heels of that, We have Jordan Flowers, the executive director of the foundation. And he says, the Disclosure Foundation is committed to cross-disciplinary thought, leadership, and the addition of put-off in air enhances the breadth of expertise supporting our mission. So there you go. Yeah, pretty much echoing your words, Suzanne. Yeah, very exciting.

Good stuff, good stuff. Again, all of this is coming at you guys in 2026. Okay, we're going to move to someone, one of your favorite people, I feel, in the UFO realm. And that's Tim Ghaladay. He's back. Yeah. You did. You met him, right?

Yeah, yeah. You did meet him. I soul, right? Just very briefly, like in the hallway, hello, hello, you know, shaking me. One of those. Could you give him a salute? I should have. I should have.

Probably do it both way. Well, he's back in the news because if I'm not mistaken. mistaken. Was he featured in the Age of Disclosure documentary? Yes, he had a voice in Age of Disclosure. Okay, okay, yes. Now, he has gone on News Nation, and he is reflecting on them talking about U.S.Os. So they're back. They're back in the news. People are talking about it. On the heels of the Age of Disclosure documentary, which highlighted some of the UFOs in our oceans.

Tim Gulladay, oceanographer, and retired rear admiral. in the U.S. Navy went on News Nation to discuss this very issue. So I have a clip from News Nation. Should we go ahead and give that a watch? Yeah, go ahead. All right. Let me find it here for you guys. Again, a little rusty here, so please bear with me.

Here we go. Tim Gala Day on News Nation. Possible that aliens have been living in our oceans this whole time. I never thought it would be possible. I'd be reading that line on national television, but here I am. Joining us now is retired U.S. Navy Rear Admiral Tim Galadette. His new book, Holding Fast in the Heavy Seas, is out next spring. Admiral, great to have you on.

So you say you know the exact Ocean Canyon we should be searching for underwater UFOs. Where is it? Why are you so sure about it? Well, good to be with you, Elizabeth. I wouldn't quite say I know exactly where they are. What I did is support the Ross Coldheart episode. weekend where we went out on an exploration to possibly identify where these are occurring. What we know is that the U.S. Navy has observed these phenomena going in and out of the ocean

in Southern California repeated times. And so there are areas where that might be possible. We went and investigated one such area off Redondo Beach, an undersea canyon. But we have no evidence yet. But we do know from Navy. video and sailor reports to me personally whistleblowers that these these phenomena are being observed coming in and out of the ocean of Southern California and other areas of the world's ocean and to be clear they're not just observed going in and out of the water they're observed moving through the water at speeds that are unheard of and impossible according to everything

we can do and we know scientifically right well I I wouldn't say there's a whole mass of data, but I've had submarine officers and former acoustic intelligence specialists come to me and described to me instances of objects. They've been able to detect on sonar with anomalous behaviors, traveling faster than what our submarines can do and even our weapons can do, such as torpedoes. And I've also had sailors come to me and described to me, former sailors, pardon me, of the Navy, that have seen objects go in and out of the ocean. And by the way, others have reported this.

For example, Lou Elizondo, who has published a book about this called Eminent, describes several instances where overhead video, using national intelligence assets, have seen underwater objects moving at high rates of speed below the ocean surface. So what is it about the California coast or the people? coast or the Pacific Ocean near California, do you think, why are we seeing more incidents there than we are in other places? I don't know. That's why we want to research this. I've called for this to be a national research priority because what can't explain what they're doing, why they're doing it, their intent,

their nature, where they occur. It's right now I don't know and the government's not releasing what it knows. And so that's what we've called for and the folks that former national security personnel in this film, the Age of Disclosure, have all called for. You know, people might laugh when they hear that aliens or aliens spaceships could be hiding in our oceans, but the reality is we don't know a lot about our own oceans. We've only explored 27 percent of Earth's oceans. We know more about the moon and Mars, the surface of the moon and Mars, than we do about our own oceans. If someone or something wanted to hide, there's no more perfect place. But you've done your homework, Elizabeth, because that's exactly right. We've only mapped the

seabed of the ocean floor to about 25% of its total. We've not even explored 10% of the ocean volume. And yes, we know the surface of Mars and the moon to a better resolution than we do at the ocean floor. So if there were any extraterrestrial visitors and that did not want to be seen, and this is where they'd hide. Now, I will not be claiming that that's what these source of these phenomena are, because again, we don't have evidence yet. You don't know. We have reports of it. But like David Grush, for example, the UAP whistleblower, who testified in front of Congress about this, but right now I've not seen the evidence. So that's what we're searching for. You said this place was steps from the water. We just haven't found the steps.

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Book on Hilton.com or the Hilton app and save up to 20% to get the stay you expected. When you want savings, not surprises. It matters where you stay. Hilton, for the stay. All right. What do you think? I love that he's saying, I don't know, we don't know. That's why we need to figure it out. Exactly. And I'm going to agree with him. He's hedging his bet on whether there's large data on this. I think there is large data. I think he may have seen it from a classified perspective.

But, and I'd love to know what you think about this. You know, that documentary that's several years old now called a tear in the sky, it is specifically focused on this area. of California, it makes a big triangle between, is it Catalina Island, I think, Ryan, and a couple of points in that area of California. And I would highly recommend our viewers watch it. I think it's on prime because not that you're going to get big answers, you're not, but just to understand what's going on in that particular area of our ocean. And I suspect that's what he's talking about, being a naval guy. Right, right. Well, in that Tarynah Sky documentary, I do highly suggest people check it out because some of the evidence they found was stunning. Like a warm hole or something like that. They're still studying that.

I know independently, but yeah, that area itself is just right with anomalous phenomena. So I don't know. I don't know. Data, radar, whatever they're using on those military ships that are out there. Isn't that where the Nimitz was when all that went on? Yeah. Yeah. So I think we can pinpoint that.

For sure. And I know a group that is kind of coming back into the forefront, that is a group called UAPX. And they basically are UAP expeditions. So they have members, former members of the Nimitz involved with that. Scientists that work with the UAP Society for UAP Studies. Kevin Keneuve is involved. They have this group and they have been planning for a while now

to do these expeditions out to Catalina Island in that area and do further research to see if there's repeatability, which is the key to science. So, you know, I've been in. touch with a few of those members. I'm hoping to maybe someday document some of it, whether that's like an actual documentary or just interviews with these guys. But I hope they get going in 2026. Maybe it'll be their year to really dig deep into the USO thing again. We need like the Josh Gates of UFOs where they're actually going and well funded to do

the science around this mystery and that mystery. Exactly. Josh Gates. one of my heroes. I love that guy. I'm doing a campaign right now, guys. Everyone go to Twitter and tag Josh Gates and get him on somewhere in the skies because I have tried for like seven years. Yeah.

And I just can't get a hold of the guy. I went to see him talk. He gave a time of one of our names. Yeah, that's right, Maddie. All the dogs are barking now. I don't know if you can hear that. Yeah. There must be someone at the door.

But yeah. we've got to get Josh Gates on the show, but I love this. I love this. I love that Tim Gulliday is still advocating. You know, UFOs are one thing. U.S.Os are something completely different. I would add one other thought for our listeners. I think it's interesting because when he first appeared on our scene on this topic, he was all about the government stepping forward to do this, to do that, to declassify, all of which of course needs to be done. But it's clear to me at this point, he has shifted focus. He has abandoned this, you know, focus on the government doing what, frankly, it ought to be doing, but will not right now. And he has gone a different direction.

So I say we follow along. They all are. They're all kinds of doing that. They're abandoning their own trust and hope in their own government, which is troubling in some ways. But, you know, this might be the only way we actually get some sort of disclosure. And while it may, have to do with former military or government individuals, it's being done from a civilian standpoint and perspective. And let's hope it stays that way. My worry is with folks like this or someone like Avi Lowe, that he said, yeah, Galileo Project,

if the U.S. government wants to use that, they're more than welcome. And I'm like, dude, you were the guy who was saying you would never work with the government on any of this stuff. What in the world. That's how you get a black boxed. Exactly, exactly. So, yeah, our shoutouts and special thanks to Tim Galladay for fighting the good fight, as Richard Dolan would say. But let's move to someone else that he mentioned in this interview, and that's David Grush, because he was back in the news somewhat recently. I mean, I know I'm a little late to the game on some of this guys. Again, I've been super busy, so I apologize. But one person that was not featured in the documentary Age of Disclosure was David Grush.

But he did an interview with Fox News somewhat, I think right before it came out or right after. And he had some pretty compelling things to say. So why don't we go ahead and watch this video? And I really want to get your thoughts on this. Great. Sound good. Sounds great. Yeah, this one was a doozy.

Not going to lie. And, you know, say what you will about Fox News. I thought it was a pretty good interview. And here we go. Now, retired Air Force Major, David Grush, who has been a whistleblower on the subject of UFOs, UAPs, and government transparency. He's a special advisor now to the House UAP Task Force. Thanks for being here. Thank you.

You have me on, Brett. So since then, people say, where is the evidence? What's happening? Why don't we know more right now almost two years later? Well, certainly the last administration didn't help. And my hearing, of course, was during the last administration, and they were not exactly super transparent on this issue, unfortunately. But now that the task force has been created,

I've been able to guide the members within the boundaries of what they're actually cleared for. When people look at this, they look online, they say there's a lot out there. There's a lot of people talking about encounters. There's a lot of people talking about videos, and we've seen a lot of that. Can we just cut it down to you believe that we have encountered alien beings and that they've come to Earth and that we know about it as a U.S. government? That seems to be a case.

I don't like to characterize necessarily where they came from. They're definitely some kind of non-human sentience. But it is true, believe it or not, we've recovered the vehicles. and we actually have physical proof and I was actually partially cleared into some of those activities. It was beyond oral testimony provided to me. I actually had partial access to the data and actually read the intelligence reports resulting from those programs. With your own eyes, you saw it. Yes.

And so when people say this is kooky, this is out there, there's nothing to back it up, what do you say? Certainly members of this current administration are very well aware of this reality. Certainly the current president is very knowledgeable on this subject, and I trust his leadership on it. And I think he's assembled in an A-team cabinet, and I really believe if Trump wants to be the greatest president and the most consequential leader, likely in world history, he certainly has the knowledge, the capabilities, and understanding of some of these sensitive government transparency issues. I have access, but, and I speak to people about it, I've had actually meetings on it. People that are very smart and very solid have said,

they believe there is something out there. And you know, it makes sense that there could be. I've never been convinced even despite that. You know, I just, for some reason, it's not my thing. So you think, one, he knows and two, he's open to transparency on UAPs? He certainly is very well informed on this issue. Leave it at that. I don't want to get ahead of what the president might want to reveal personally.

There's been a role to cover this up. you're saying through administrations and there have been people who have been threatened and told not to testify I was physically threatened even before I sent in my intelligence community inspector general report under the previous administration I actually had to go and and seek legal protection that way because I was you know literally in fear both professionally and in my personal life and when you mentioned in that testimony of recovering the pilots or remains non-human that's something that

you saw as far as the intelligence with your eyes? Yes. And it is a very uncomfortable, even for me now, as somebody who's seen it, experienced it, even talking about it, because it's so outside a normal person's worldview to understand that there is this biological sentience that have piled these crafts that don't necessarily

look 100% like you and I. Were there pictures? Were there? There were. Yes, they were. When I said from another planet from outer space you said not we don't know where they're from is it interdimensional what what are we talking about uh i've talked to a lot of i'll call graybeards on the program

that is a subject of hot debate on origin i've as a guy trained in physics formally as well in my background i leave an open mind on what the origin is certainly uh there is the extraterrestrial hypothesis and they could be coming from elsewhere off earth but i don't usually go there because i did not see data and I'm not conversant in the high-confidence theories that the US government had you say we the US government knows but there are many other governments around the world do they know they have their own programs and like I said two and a half years ago we have been in arms race with our peer competitors you know namely Russia and China and they have their own programs in that in this regard and I was actually able to view a body of intelligence

that discussed adversarial programs and I'll leave it at that we've covered things you say yeah bodies and physical remains was there a sense that the motive of whether how they got here what they were doing was it peaceful not peaceful we've seen a mixed bag of activity and motive and intent why they're visiting that's once again that gets into our assessments not necessarily we can't quite understand the intent of some of the sentience and why they're visiting Could it because we have interesting genetic material on earth? We're a Jurassic Park tourist attraction for them.

Could be a myriad of reasons. For the other people who are coming out, you say to them what? You've obviously faced intimidation. You talked about harassment. There are reports that others have, too. I say that there's hope. Certainly Congress values whistleblower information right now. And certainly, I believe,

there's an appetite with the administration to do the right thing on this as well. And there's some other things that are happening behind the scenes that I'll let the administration discuss when they're ready. Okay, well, we appreciate your time and we'll follow every element. It's fascinating.

Thanks, I'll have you on. Wow. Okay, so apparently we have a new term, non-human sentient, that's interesting, that he's now using that. Before it was non, what was it, biological, non-human intelligence. Now we have sentience. Like, what is what is what the wordplay these guys do, Suzanne?

I don't know. He knows so much more than he's saying. He knows, in my opinion, exactly what China's holding. He has seen it. He can't say it. And I understand what it's said, which is so frustrating to me. But I also think, Ryan, the timing of this came, was right on the, heels of age of disclosure. And I can't help but thinking we're watching a gentle pressure campaign

on the president to take this opportunity to do what he can do, whether he will or not, no way to know. But it's interesting to me. The timing of it is so interesting. Yeah. Well, that actually is going to play dramatically into our next story. And now that you say that, I think you're right. I think these guys are like, They're seeing that what they set out to do to get some sort of official disclosure through Congress, through like the proper channels, it doesn't seem to be happening the way they had hoped or maybe the way they expected. So they're kind of doing that thing where they go over the heads of people and going straight to the top. And you're right. I could see this. It does seem like Grush is kind of pressuring the president. Age of disclosure was also sent to the U.S. president. I think a private viewing of it. Some combination of the Politico's had it. I would also love to remind our listeners that we know that President Trump was read in on this topic during his first administration. Something has been said in this administration, but I have been said in this administration. But I,

I can't with the same confidence report that there's been another full read-in. But I can confirm that it happened first time around. So this isn't a surprise subject for the president. Exactly. Well, talking about that pressure on the president, that does bleed in right to our next story. And I'm going to read a little bit here because talk about pressuring the president. How about sending him a four-page memo directly to the United States President Donald Trump? Luis Elizondo warns of a big event coming and sends direct memo to the president.

This is nuts. Elizondo has publicly urged President Donald Trump to appoint a dedicated UAP advisor to coordinate efforts on UAPs in related emerging technologies. warning that ignoring the issue could pose serious national security risks. In a memo he wrote directly to the president, he said the advisor should centralize fragmented reporting and help address the stigma around UAPs, which he argues is eroding public trust and noted that several members of Congress privately shared their own UAP concerns. He cautioned that failing to take the phenomenon seriously might leave the U.S.

vulnerable to scenarios where rival nations reverse engineer advanced capabilities, potentially with consequences as severe as major historical security events, comparing it, Suzanne, to something even so much as 9-11. Exactly. Which, ooh, man, you want to perk some ears? Yeah. Yeah. The repercussions of failing to handle this could be larger than the impact of 9-11.

Yeah. Interesting way to put that. But you know what it reminds me of, Ryan? Do you remember the first year that I went to Seoul and I came back and reported that commercial pilots were still being asked by the FFAA and other entities around all that to report their sightings to move on? Do you remember that? I think all of that is kind of where they're headed. This is just not a workable scenario anymore. They're over your nuke sites.

They're in our flight paths. They're over our cities. And not just in America, all over Europe and Australia. They're everywhere. And we're just going to report to Mufon. We're not like casting shade at Mufon. No, no. No, no.

Civilian. Yeah. Absolutely. It's not their responsibility. But right. Like, you should not be having an F-18 fighter pilot who came in, close contact with the UFO reporting it to some Rando in his basement in Idaho, you know?

Like that's not how this should be working. You know, American Airlines, no, let's get a system before we have a calamity. Exactly. Well, Elizondo is again, sort of stepping out again. He was a big part of the age of disclosure. He was basically our narrator through the entire documentary. But he went on News Nation as well and spoke to

Ross Colthart. So I'm going to play that clip. And it goes a little bit more into the memo that he sent to President Donald Trump. And if he, if Elizondo believes Trump even read the memo, if Trump knows anything about a pending disclosure of some sort, there have been murmurs that Trump is going to disclose something coming up soon. So I don't know. I don't know. But I don't either. I remember Tim Gallaudet at Seoul said he did not think Trump, would disclose. So we've got two well-respected people on either side of that opinion. So who knows? Who knows? Who knows? That is the question. Let's see. I think we've got to also keep in mind the possibility that we're watching a gentle pressure

campaign as we watch this video as well. I love that. I'm going to look at it with new eyes, fresh eyes now. I love it. Let's watch the clip. Okay. went to senior people in the Trump administration, we don't know whether Donald Trump has actually actioned it or done anything with it or even read it. But what worries me is the conspicuous lack of action on any of the issues that you raise in that memo. I don't see any action on drones and I don't see any action from this administration on UAPs. Are you getting any indications from anyone, anyone within the administration to suggest that they are taking the UAP issue seriously? Yes, yes, I am, and the drone issue. In fact, there's pockets within the FBI Federal Bureau of

investigation and pockets within the Director of National Intelligence that are taking this topic seriously. I think their approach is very measured. I think they're doing their due diligence. They're asking the right questions, are going about this the right way. Now, the question is, Do they have enough people? Well, that I can't tell you. I don't know. And I think only time will tell. But I do see that there are pockets of expertise and excellence that is being applied to this topic.

I think what some people may confuse is the lack of transparency or necessarily discussion openly about what they're doing. And so I think that creates some frustration internally with some people. but I am very confident and very relieved that at least certain individuals whom I know are working on this topic are indeed taking it very seriously and basically pulling the thread to see to see where it leads. Now, at the end of the day, time will tell what those results will be. But no, I'm very grateful and heartened to see some of the efforts that I see behind closed doors. I'm not going to say right now who specifically is involved. I think we need to give these individuals latitude and ability to maneuver.

It is a tough problem. It is a tough problem. We haven't solved it yet, and we're still trying to figure it out. And it's not going to be solved overnight. I do think one of the ways to help find resolution to this problem sooner rather than later is to establish a primary individual that is responsible for this. This is what they get paid to do, right? So if they drop the ball, now it's on their hands, on their shoulders.

Okay, so this is where I get concerned, because if the president or people senior in his administration, we know they've received this memo, they haven't acted on it. Nothing's happened. The president's made no announcement on UAP. We're presuming nothing's been done. But again, I want to be very careful. I hate to assume certain things. you know what assuming does, right? So I'll use a word presume.

Just because the administration doesn't say anything, doesn't mean that they're not taking it seriously. And I know people are very eager to try to get to the bottom of what's going on. But this is a problem we've been dealing with, quite frankly, for many, many, many decades, Ross. And it's going to take time. And we have as a people, we have to have a little bit of patience with our government to try to try to figure this way out.

Now, the problem here is, you know, we can give people time to figure it out. but it only takes one 9-11 event, right, to turn the whole world upside down. And so time isn't really on our side. I think we have to have some patience and give the administration sometime, but I don't think we have a whole lot of time. I think we really have to do a much better job of trying to figure out what's going on. And it's a tough, it's a tough nut to crack. It's a tough problem.

I certainly wouldn't want to be the one in the administration. tap on the shoulders to figure this out. I mean, this requires a pretty big team, and you'd have to have help from all other 16 members of the intelligence community, the defense communities, and the civilian communities. I mean, this is, this is a big, this is a big, this is a big problem. Can I ask you this, do you think the Trump administration, Donald Trump, is thinking about disclosure? Well, I hear what you hear and everybody else. that he's contemplating it, that he's been told about it. But I want to, I also want to be realistic here.

Yes, there's a tremendous opportunity here for our president to be the first sitting president to say, yes, this is real and this is a problem. But there's also a tremendous amount of risk. Because if it turns out that there is some sort of foreign adversarial involvement behind this, there's some sort of new type of stealth reconnaissance capability. Let's say that country X developed or something. like that, and we go out on a limb and say that these things are all because of this, and it turns out they're actually because of that, then that's a risk as well, and that can

actually be used to discredit you and to hurt your efforts. So the president, all presidents, have to be, and this is why they have so many advisors, they have to weigh the pros and cons of what they say publicly. Now, this particular president, I think most people can agree whether you agree with his politics or not, he is not afraid to say what he feels. And so from that perspective, I think it's very refreshing. I think all presidents should say how they feel. The question is, what does he actually feel about this topic? Sometimes when he's been asking the past, he has said, I personally don't believe it.

I don't think there's much to see there. And other times, he's turned around and said, actually, you know what, I've received some briefings. Pretty interesting. We should take it seriously. But again, that's a question you would need to ask to the person. president himself, I certainly would not want to be in any type of position to presume what, what our president, Donald Trump, knows about this topic. Okay.

A lot to break down there. I do agree, like, whether you politically agree with Donald Trump or not. If there is going to be a disclosure president of any kind, it's very possible that he could be the one. And we need to feed off of that ego that this narcissist. president has, you know, in so many ways. I hate, like, I don't want to get political here, but we have to. This is a political story. This man who loves hearing his own voice. Right. It's just part of the personality. And it'd be a, this is the kind of personality who would be likely to actually

take a risk like this and do it. So I remain hopeful. I don't know that it will actually happen, of course, but I remain helpful. Yeah. I like this idea of a pressure cooker. I think you described it perfectly, and it never even dawned on me. I'm like, a lot of our stories this week have a lot in common. Age of Disclosure comes out. It was sent to the president. You got Elizondo out here, sent a memo to Trump.

You've got, who else did we just talk about? Tim Gallaudet. Grush. Good Lord. Jim Gallaudet, Grush. We're all going after the president. So I don't know. I don't know. That's why I think we're watching a general pressure campaign,

which I think is actually brilliant if that's what's happening. I think that applying this and giving it audience to friendly ears is a great idea. No, no, I don't see a downside. It may not work, but I don't see a downside. Exactly. Yep. What is it? Wayne Gretzky says, like you only make the amount of the percentage of goals that you shoot.

I am butchering that that quote but yeah like take the shot take the shot the worst it's going to happen is you know Alan we put this up on the screen earlier makes a good point if the president did get involved pardon the whistleblowers for all

prosecution like this is a president who is pardoned a lot of people for things that they have done could this be the president who pardons whistleblowers in this topic if he thinks it's going to make him the disclosure precedent. Who knew that?

And then release everybody from these NDAs. Turn Hal put off, silence off. Turn those big key people who cannot speak contractually. Turn them loose. Turn them loose. I love that. Donnie Falls says, is it possible that there's an agreement between nations not to be the first

that it must be mutual disclosure? Oh, man, good question. I think, like, was it, might have been Grush, who said, we are in a race for a technological cold war right now. So I don't think it would be a mutual thing. I think whoever's first is going to be the nation that discloses or might be the nation. If they've controlled the tech, if they've unwrapped the tech,

then it's going to be like, the atom bomb for us, you know, back in the day, and we ruled the world with it up until now, you know. Exactly. It's a big deal. It is. Yep. You know, say what you want about weaponized.

Corbell, I know people have a lot of thoughts, but he's been saying it for years. Like the first to crack the code on this tech, game over. Game over. I would have to agree. I would have to agree. Okay, Susan, I want to switch gears. We've talked a lot about UFOs. Guys, after this story, we will be featuring your pets that you sent into us.

You're so cute. Oh, my God. I cannot wait. Cannot wait. But I want to talk about a story that you have a very profound and personal connection to. This came to us from Chrissy Newton, our very good friend, colleague, past guest on the show, past co-host on the show, Chrissy Newton over at the debrief came out with a wonderful story about near-death experiences. So that's where I want to go next.

I find this absolutely fascinating. Let's get Elizondo and Colthard off the screen. We're done with them. We're done with you guys for now. We're moving to NBEs because this is very interesting. Let me go ahead and read a little bit here. The University of Virginia researchers, identify support gaps for people recovering from near-death experiences.

Recent research from the University of Virginia's Division of Perceptual Studies shows that near-death experiences are relatively common and often life-changing, with about 5% of Americans reporting an NDE and up to 23% of cardiac arrest survivors describing similar events. That is an astounding amount of people. if you actually look at the population of America and that percentage. In a survey of 167 experiencers, most sought support afterward and found it helpful, often reporting increased spirituality, compassion, and curiosity about life after death.

However, many also faced confusion or isolation, particularly when they feared disbelief, making early reactions of openness and validation crucial to healthy adjustment. A little bit more here. The study also reveals how longstanding misunderstandings in medicine and mental health have complicated recovery for many NVE experiences. Until the 1990s, such experiences were largely absent from official diagnostic frameworks, reinforcing fears of being labeled unstable. While recognition has improved, researchers stress that professionals still need to be better educated about, near-death experiences and her impact. So the woman you're seeing on your screen here,

that is Dr. Marietta Pelabanova, I believe is how you pronounce it, and Chrissy interviewed her on her podcast, rebelliously curious recently. She is a research assistant professor of psychiatry and neurobehavioral sciences at the University of Virginia and a leading researcher at the renowned division of perceptual studies. So I'm going to go ahead and play a clip, Suzanne, about that support that is now being lent to people who have had NDEs and what they hope for and why, why people who have NDEs don't come forward to describe it, why some do, and how it changes these people.

It is just like what I do in the UFO field, the impact and aftermath of a UFO experience or abduction. And it's maybe startling connections to those. who have had NDE so should we watch the clip and then I want to I want to dive into this okay okay cool let's watch this clip from rebelliously curious with Chrissy Newton and we'll talk a little bit more on the other side here guys find the concept of near-death experiences to be so profound I do think about it I think about reincarnation a lot and I do think about the people that have gone through these types

of experiences because I've been through my own meditations at the Monroe Institute that were really profound and I'm living and experiencing them. I couldn't imagine going through a traumatic event and then having this on top of it. So the research that you're doing now is looking at support systems and what type of support people need for near-death experiences. Can you talk a little bit about that and how people could go about supporting others? So when we talk about how to support, people after an ND, it's important to first talk about why do they need support. So a lot of what people may be familiar with in regards to NDEs may sound very positive, right? People may experience peace and see this tunnel of light and unconditional love. And there's certain ways that people

tend to change, especially if they have a very profound ND. There's research that shows that people in general may become more spiritual, a lot more interested in examining that spiritual dimension of life. They tend to become convinced that life continues after death, that this body is not who they are, and they tend to lose their fear of death. Maybe become more compassionate. So a lot of that sounds very positive, right? Maybe things that if we were able to change this way would help us, feel better in the world or live better rather.

But there's also very important ways that some people may struggle after an NDE. So even if the experience itself is very positive, still bring about many challenges and I'll just give you a sense of what that may be. So for some people, the NDE may and the insight that they may get from the ND can just completely contradict whatever views of life and death they had, whether it's scientific or religious or just existential views. If that experience and what it reveals about the nature of the world contradicts people's prior beliefs, that can create a sense of dissonance in people just trying to make sense of this big thing that happened.

At the same time, we're never alone in the U.S. universe, right? We exist in these families, communities in relation to other people, and relationships are important. So all of a sudden, you're quote unquote back, but you're different. Your values are different. Maybe your life priorities are different. You're no longer interested in living life the same way because you have a new perspective. And so that can introduce a lot of challenge with people around you who maybe don't understand what happened to you. Experiences may often also want to talk about the experience and how profound it was or how it changed them, what it meant for them. And they may find that not everyone is open to learning or really willing to understand. And that may be

especially prevalent with health care professionals. Sometimes people want to share with their physician or with their nurse. But even it can happen with loved ones as well. And overall, and people may be concerned that other people and especially, but not only professionals will think they're crazy. They're worried about not being believed. And then there may also be other things like a lot of people experience this place that they went to or visited this other realm. Many of them describe it as home, their real home. And so many people may have this intense sort of longing to go back to that place. Like, okay, what am I doing back here?

My body's broken, depending on what led to the NDE. So that can lead to depressive symptoms among some people. And I'm not saying any of this to make the claim that we should pathologize these experiences, just to make the point that even if the experience is very positive, people may still struggle and need support to process it, just like any other big thing that we deal with or big transition in our lives and maybe even more so. So the study basically looked at a large group of people who've had near-death experiences and asked them, What kind of support have you sought out to process this experience? What was helpful to you?

What was not so helpful? What were the barriers to seeking support? And we thought of support very broadly. We asked if people had seen a mental health professional, health professional, various spiritual, religious professionals like clergy. and we also asked that people had sought help from an organization or even sharing online in various Facebook groups, message boards. So we really thought of a variety of ways that people may seek support.

And in that paper, we wanted to sort of see what are the factors, what predicts who will need more support, including things that relate to the demographics of the person, the quality, intensity of the NDE, various circumstances around the NDE, various factors from the person's prior history. Because, again, nobody, we don't exist in a vacuum. Even with this experience, we come with our, with our prior history and who we are, beliefs, our experiences, all of that. And so we look to see which of these factors, if any, predicts who will need support. and we also looked at what predicts who will benefit from support or find the support they receive helpful. As the Krispy Chicken Sandwich from 7-Eleven, people always call me loud.

And I'm like, yeah, I know. I'm crispy. Did you expect me to whisper? If you want quiet, go eat some soup and reflect. Like, I know I'm a handful. I'm bold, I'm juicy. Throw some pickles and barbecue sauce on me, and baby, I'm a whole meal. And with seven rewards, I'm just $4.

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I loved this conversation. Me too. Now, you and I have talked off-air about this topic of near-death experiences because of some of the connections it might have to the UFO topic or, you know, just. anomalous experiences in general. But the real reason I wanted to bring up this story,

now, Suzanne, is because I asked you off there if you were willing to, if you're comfortable, to share this with us. But you have a very specific connection to this story, in a sense. Would you mind maybe telling us why? I will. I will. I've had my own near-death experience. And it happened maybe five years ago, six years ago. And late one evening, I inexplicably went into AFIB, and I don't have heart issues. I have never had AFIB before, and I have not had it since. But I went into AFIB, and my husband was sound asleep. It was about midnight. And I spent about an hour doing everything I could do to try to get it to stop. And I finally realized I was going the wrong direction. It was getting worse and instead of better. So I had to wake up my husband and try not to scare him to death, but that we needed to get in the car

and go to the emergency room. And we did. And they took me straight back as they will with any heart event. And once I was in the room, a young male nurse came in and said, Suzanne, we have got to give you two drugs, drug A and drug B. Drug A does this, drug B does something else. And I thought about it in a minute. And then I said, now keep in mind, I have no medical background and no experience with this. I said, drug B, I don't want that one. I don't want to have that one. And he said, with gentle pressure, Suzanne, you need this, this, but you need these two in tandem. And I reluctantly agreed. And I would love to tell you that I didn't, but, but. I did. And yet somehow I knew I should not have that second drug. So the nurse left to go do whatever he

needed to do to get the drugs and get them started. He gets the IV going and he walks back out of the room and I say to my sweet husband, Bill, if something goes wrong, you yank this IV straight out of my arm and he said, okay. And about 60 seconds later, I popped out of my body. And I stood behind myself, which was just a wall, you know, you're in these little bitty rooms in an emergency room. I stood behind myself to the right. And I was basically looking at a corner thinking and assessing, right, It says like, I could look down. I could faintly see the shape of my body. And I could remember thinking, oh, my gosh, I'm, I think I've died.

I think what's happening here. But at the same time, as scary as that sounds, to me, it wasn't, it was like, oh, but all of me is still here. Who I am is standing right here in this corner. And then there was this big commotion behind me. I am literally looking at the wall. And as I turn to look back over my shoulder at what's going on behind me, I see my body. But I was not upset. It was like, oh, yeah, that makes sense now because my consciousness is here. And then I could hardly talk about it without tearing up. And then I see my sweet husband who is plastered against the wall, literally back and head with his hands,

pressed against the wall down by his thighs, terrified. And so I paused. And I thought, he's so upset, he's so scared, but I'm okay. I'm okay. But he was not. And then I turned around and I was going to go through this wall. And I heard all this yelling, this yelling. And I thought, who are they yelling at? This is a hospital. They need to be quiet. Someone's yelling, yelling.

And then I heard my name. And I realized in that moment, oh, they're calling me. And of course, I'm over here about to go through this wall. And so I turned all the way around and boom, I was back in my body and awake. and they were literally yelling, Suzanne, come back, Suzanne, come back, come back. They're yelling over and over louder and louder, all of them while they're doing heart compressions and whatnot. And that young nurse, I could remember the look on his face like sheer terror, sheer terror. And the relief on Bill's face when I was back was just overwhelming.

And for me, I didn't quite know what to do with it, except that, it was all okay. It was actually, I consider it a positive. It's a little bit of my personality, though, is just like with the UFO stuff or the paranormal stuff, I'm pretty open to just taking it in and letting it be and trying to process it later, right? You know, I'll let a bunch of data come in before I'll make a pronouncement.

You see me doing behind the scenes as well on the UFO stuff. You'll see me process, process, and then boom. I'll give you what I think. But that's my experience. And so I understand that not everyone makes peace as quickly as I did. To me, it was quite comforting because I knew with literally the sureness of my consciousness that whatever comes next is okay and that we don't just stop in these bodies. And these bodies are temporary arrangements.

but that's my experience. So I'm very happy to see this work by Chrissy and by this psychiatrist because not everyone, first of all, has a positive experience. Some of them are quite scary. But there is a tremendous connection between the UFO world and the near-death experience world and the poltergeist world. And so when the group has heard me talk, throw in something about the near-death death experiences that are saying things very similar to the UFO people. This is why I spent a lot of time reading, studying, and listening. Now we know why. First of all, thank you.

Thank you so much for sharing that. I got teared up to you. Thank you. That takes a lot to not only go through that, but to be able to share that with our audience. with the public. God bless you and your husband. I mean, I can't even, I can't imagine what that was like.

As you were talking, you know, I reflected a little bit on the passing of my mother. Yes. She spread a couple years ago now at this point. Just know she's good. Yeah. I was with her when she died. And that was something that I will always be thankful to the higher powers, whatever it may be, that I was able to be there to be with my mother to say goodbye because so many people never get that opportunity to have one last goodbye with their loved ones or a friend. And I remember, you know, you remember some of the more clinical bad stuff, obviously.

But the thing that stuck with me the most was holding her hand with her entire family around her singing her favorite songs and watching her take her last breath but seeing a look of pure joy on her face. And I could literally see her crossing over. whatever that means. Yes. You look so happy and relieved. And it was just, it was something I will never, ever forget.

And it just, it reminded me a lot of, you know, that, not elation, but that, um, that idea that,

that something's there. Something is beyond these bodies and, and beyond that. And the fact that you glimpsed that even, you know, for a brief, a bit extremely scary moment is so powerful to me. And how brave you are to accept that and not just like shy away from it, but explore. And I think many of these people included in this study and whatnot do not do. They just, they brush it off and they forget about it.

Others integrate it into their life. And like she said, the entire framework of your existence must fundamentally change after a near-death experience, I would imagine, in many ways. So I guess my question for you, if you don't mind me asking, a lot of these people did say there was a longing to go back to that place. Now, you had a very unique experience. an out-of-body experience, almost as it were. Do you ever feel that a longing to go back to this place? Or how do you confront that? Yeah, I didn't.

And let me tell you why. I don't think I made it far enough because I did not experience a bright light like others do. My loved ones were not there. I didn't take that next step across a barrier. And I think the humans who do take that next step, they are the ones who struggle, and some struggle mightily, like perhaps not even wanting to live any longer, because they want to go back because of how magnificent it feels and complete. And you will hear them talk about, I am home over and over.

I'm not sure I have ever listened or read a near-death experience where the person who has experienced it hasn't used those words. So for me, it was more of, I guess, pay attention. This is how quickly this can happen. And completely out of the blue, completely out of the blue. And live life hard, run hard, play hard, be grateful, keep rolling. And to lighten it up a little bit, I will tell you, as soon as I was back and, you know, it took maybe an hour for me to get my equilibrium back, I guess. I told Bill, I told you to pull that thing out of my arm and you didn't do it. I still teased him today. I do not hold any grudges against Bill.

I don't think I could have pulled one out either, but I don't know. He was dealing with. with a lot too in that moment. Oh my gosh. That's so sweet. Yeah. So sweet. I hope everyone will take away the positives from it. There are differences out there.

I submit those are highly, highly connected to human expectations built by that human's religious and societal influences. So if you expect a negative, you're going to get a negative. And I bet, Ryan, I bet I have listened to read to over a thousand of these. You know, so I just think, be positive, live well, do your best. No, it can stop in a moment and no, you'll continue on. I love that. I can't think of a better message from someone

who has literally faced the unknown and come out on the other side, living life, to the fullest. I appreciate that and I hold so much gratitude that you shared that and that you have that positive message to get because, you know, like this study says, it's hard for people to come forward with these experiences. But for every person who does come forward, maybe we will get a little bit more of a glimpse of what comes next, you know? Absolutely. I can tell you there. Go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, I was just going to say, I love this idea that you mentioned of, you know, it put you back in the moment of because that's what UFOs do. When you have a UFO experience, you feel more immediate and more human than you have

in probably a long time when we're on our phones and we're at work and we're doing the routine. And then boom, a UFO event happens in your life and you feel scared, excited, terrified. You feel an awe. You feel everything human that makes us what we are. And it reverberates in that soul or that invisible thing that exists that leaves the body when we eventually pass on. And you do have to wonder, is there some sort of connection? I don't know. Well, and you made a great point.

And we were talking about how similar these two topics are. And just like in the UFO world, there are books that you should read and there are books you should not read. And you have to vet them, just like you and I vet every day of our lives on this topic. So if someone would like to read more, I'd love for you to reach out to me, Suzanne Landers at me.com. And I will connect you with two or three good, solid, well-researched books. And I do it, that research, just like I do this. So I like a particular neurosurgeon who had his own near-death experience.

Oh, wow. all over the world. And then there's a female surgeon. Same thing. So I have a list of highly credible, reasonable, bright, competent people that you can learn from. I love that. I will, and I should be doing this. I will put your email address in the show notes. Okay. For if people want to reach out, feel free to put it in the chat to you later on. But yeah, and I see your your husband is in the chat. Hello, it's a bill. Thank you so much for Letting us relive this moment that you both went to. Bless his heart.

Scared him to death. Bless his heart. Absolutely. Absolutely. Is spiritual energy or interdimensional, right? Is spiritual energy interdimensional? Good question. I think it could be.

Consciousness is interdimensional. Yeah, I like that. When you hear me say that we're going to boil all this down to consciousness, this is why. That's why. I love that. And I love that you kind of introduced me to this topic because it's not a topic I ever dived into. You know, I did have Leslie Kane on to talk about surviving death, her book on reincarnation. That's an excellent. Oh, so good, so good. Guys, if you haven't listened to that episode in the archives, I spoke to Leslie Kane and Michael Anthony, who was a fellow bartender of mine in New York. But he actually is in the Netflix series. surviving death because he had an experience with his father that Leslie investigated. So you can go back and listen to that as well. But wow, yeah, I love that this is a new rabbit hole.

I can go down, you know. I am a somewhat spiritual person. I think I've shared on the show. I am Catholic. I actually went to Mass this morning with my dad, which was awesome. 8 o'clock, he got me up, ripped me out of bed. But he wanted to or not. You're up.

whether I wanted to or not. Yeah, it's like I'm 12 years old again. But I loved it. And the awesome thing was we've had the same priest. You know, he gave my mom her last rights. He's done so many of our special moments throughout our lives. He's been the priest at my church for, gosh, almost like 40 years now, something crazy like that. But I, you know, he came down at the end of the procession of mass and he saw me and his eyes just lit up.

immediately waved at me. And I'm not getting you, Susan. He came up to me after, and he remembered my name. Say hello to your sister. And I was just like, oh, my gosh, that was so cool. So, so cool. So great. And those things matter.

I think another thing that I think near-death experiencers come away with is that they find out that this life review that you hear about is not at all about judgment. What it's about is what mattered and what did. matter than what you learned. And sometimes those small things, like the priest remembering your name today, those things make it to the top of the list. Buying the coffee for the car in front of you at Starbucks, picking up the groceries for the person ahead of you. You know, those very small things, giving someone a warm smile when, you know, because you don't know what people are dealing with, right? So these small things that we do from a place of kindness can be life-changing and quite, quite

subs and they seem so small to us in the day-to-day stuff but they're not yeah you never know how you're going to impact someone's life and i i love that i love that james crag says somewhere in the heavens oh god let's another one yeah yeah i love it keep it like james crag we love you buddy that's right and pat is joining us too happy to help our furry friends thank you pat appreciate it Well, let's get to it. It's a pet. It's on a really happy thing. Yes.

So this is a part of the show, guys, that I have titled. Let me get it on the screen here somewhere with our pets. I reached out to you guys on social media to send me your photos of your pets. And you guys came in full force. So what we're going to do now is I'm just going to run through them and feature your pets. and got a little bit of write-ups for some of them here. So I'll make sure to get those. But let's start, Suzanne, shall we?

Let's do. And I will mention it again, guys, all of your donations tonight, Super Chat, Super Stickers, all of that. Go to Helping Pets Rescue, a rescue here in New York called Seventh Heaven and also Four Paus International. You can help out through Super Chat, Super Stickers, buy me a coffee and PayPal right now

all of your donations tonight will be going to help our furry friends but let's meet our furry friends right here what do you think should I put him full screen yeah put them full screen they deserve me full screen so first up guys we have here

we have Gonzalo came with his pet Gucci I love it a cat named Gucci And on the right there, we have Archie with his pups, Winnie, Bruin, and Tilly. I love it. I love all three of those dogs. That cat is adorable.

I know. I want them all. Oh, see. I can't have any more. I want them all. I want them all, too. All right. We're moving to some more dogs.

I love these. We have John, who shared with us. us Willow. And we also have Joe with Lil Missy Mo-Moo. Aren't those ears just divine? Just divine. I love it. I absolutely love it. Hello to Willow. Hello to Lil Missy Mumu. Thank you guys.

All right. Next up we have, if you don't mind, I'm going to take this banner off. There we go. I got it. Just so I can write the names here. We have Ling. Nomar shares his cat Ling, who enjoys food and naps. And then we also have David with his six-month-old dog named Luna. So there is Ling and Luna. I didn't even mean to do that.

Okay. Okay. A trio of pups. we have our very own wait did I skip one here on nope here we go yeah next we have Lucy

Lucy is sharing her trio of pets and that is Nova Milo and Zero who enjoy and adventures they like hiking and adventures

sorry what did you say Suzanne look at those faces I know they look so happy you always know when a dog's tongue is out that they're either a little thirsty or they're very very excited I love it. So thank you for sharing those with us, Lucy. And then we have Ray with Cosette, who is mischievous, but loving. I love that. My favorite character from Les Miserables, her name.

I was just going to say that. I wonder if that's how Ray got the name for Cosette. Let us know. You need to know that now. Yeah, Cosette is definitely, you know, Lay Maze is where I met my future wife. We were both working at the musical Les Maze and Cosette, Cosette, I remember that song like nobody's business. I love it. All right. Oh, my gosh.

Who is that on the left? We have our very old Suzanne's pop. Mrs. Pearl Landers, who is patiently waiting for Santa. Suzanne added here. She's the best brown dog That's what we tell her she's a fine I love the cardigan sweater That is classy

She's in her Christmas sweater today With a little ruffle around her booty Aw, I love it Patiently waiting for Santa Is she still waiting patiently? She's still waiting Okay, okay Well I hope she didn't see my Santa

Impersonation earlier That was terrifying Terrifying Terrifying And then on the right We have Stein with Leica, who is almost four months old. I love that name. He too.

What a beautiful dog. Those are some two. Two beautiful looking dogs right there. All right. Next up. We have Zoe with the marvelous Milo. I love that. I love that.

And then we. have Richard with Sheba who is six years old and the most talkative cat Richard has ever known I could see that I could see that cat being pretty vocal for sure

that's what to say yeah yeah apparently if only if only our test of talk yes we will get there somewhere we will get there oh my gosh look at that tongue on Betty

so sweet Betty so next we have Andy, whose beloved Betty, unfortunately, has passed away. So this is in memory of Betty. I love it. What a beautiful little pup. Cute. Cute.

She would have been 17 years old this year. So rest in peace to Betty. And then Lara is here with Romeo and Fizz Ging. They are so cute. And they look like... I hope they are. Posing together. I love that.

that. Lara says that both are rescues who keep mama company when she's listening to somewhere in this house. Oh, excellent. I love it. Thank you guys for sending those in. Next up we have David, who is sharing Macy with us. Mays, Macy. I believe it's Macy.

Yeah. He was absolutely adorable. Look at that hair. I know. his hairdo. Looking like an 80s rocker or something. I love it, Macy. You are killing it.

Slate. Slate. Look at Miss. He's gorgeous. We also have Lucrezia, who is sharing with us, Maggie, who loves adventures and looking somewhere in the skies. So there you go. Gorgeous, gorgeous cat.

Love it. I love it. And she's a little kitty, too. owner said that she goes everywhere and you're looking at her in a boat right now but she goes anywhere in the wilderness. I love that. That is so, so cool. So cool. All right. And then next. Oh, there's my good friend, Terry over in England. I got to meet him at the Cosmic Frequency conference that took place in Hexham, UK. So a big shout out to Terry and his two pups, Lucy and Rollo.

He says here, they are not related, but are virtually alike. They are so cute. Love it, love it. Lucy and Rollo. And then on the right there, we have Steve with his dog, Cisco, who is a French who loves countryside walks and roasts. There you go. Cisco's getting into that us.

Sunday roast. I love it. Love it. Country walks. Good for you, Cisco. Stay in shape. Better than I'm doing. You tell you that much. Oh, my gosh. Bad kitty. Oh, I love it. We have a vampire cat, guys.

We have Crowley. All right. We have, these are Matt. Matt sent me an email, and he's got two kitties. Crawley on the left, who is dressed as a vampire. and then Poe on the right and Poe loves her porch time definitely you can see that in this relax absolutely so hello to Crowley and oh thank you guys and last but certainly not least Suzanne we have Cosmo on the left the black cat love it love it owned by Jamie And Jamie says about Cosmo.

Cosmo is a Sagittarius, loves to hunt, but is also the sweetest boy and loves to snuggle and get belly rubs. So cute. And then on the right, we have Kate's border collie named lady. Looking so, so happy here. So happy. And then I would be remiss if I did not add our Sprague pop here as well. pups that are literally in the other room for me right now. They've been behaving.

They only barked a little bit. But we have the big guy there, Titus. We've got the princess of the house, Layla, there in the middle. And on the right is the newest addition to the Sprague family. That is Maddie, my sister Christy's French bulldog as well. So there you go. Titus, Leila, and Maddie making their, not their debut on somewhere in the live stream, but making the return, I guess it would be to put it.

So, um, that's, That's it, guys. That's all I have. If there's any more, we will feature them on our social media as well. I'll put all of these up eventually somewhere in the skies. That's right. And we need to thank Dailan, our beloved Sourcrow. Her dog, Slashney, had her, you had low experience with her. And we've got to focus him somewhere. I think it might be in Messenger. Let me post it. Do you have, can you put your fingers on it? Yeah, let me find it because I completely forgot to put it in the slideshow, Dailan. I'm sorry. Sorry. Where did you send that to me? This was Daylon's idea, everybody, for us to, to.

We need to give Dayland a huge shout out. This was Dayland's idea to do this in the first place. So we have to feature her dog. Let me see here. Oh, I found it. I found it. Okay. We are getting Dayland's pup up here as well.

This may be the first time you guys see Dayland as well. That's right. Yeah, yeah. She gave us permission to use this, so no worries. did. She did. So let me get it here. There we go. Titus, get out of

there to my dogs. Let's bring them back in. There we go. Get his little reindeer antlers on. Slashy's a good dog. He has crossed over the rainbow bridge, but he was with Taylin. If you haven't listened to her

witness account, look it up and listen. It's fascinating and know that Slashy was with her when it happened. Yes, exactly. You know, Dailen, I have, I cannot thank her enough. She has been with me for so long. She's been one of my biggest supporters throughout the years. You two have grown very close as well. And yes, Dailen has just been a force of positivity for everything I've done for so long. And I, I cannot thank you enough, Dailen, for all you have done. You are, an exceptional human being. And I'm sending all my love to you over there. And yes, you can read Dailen's story, UFO story in my book on the podcast. And I'm so happy.

I'm sorry I didn't put it in the original slideshow. I don't know how I missed that. That's how the whole thing is. She's the reason we're doing this tonight. So Dailen, I love you. Thank you. Thank you, thank you from the bottom of my heart for all you have done throughout the years. Happy holidays to you over there in parts unknown. I won't say

where you're working. So thank you. Thank you, Daly. All right. I think that is it for tonight, Suzanne. What is Joe? I know. Will we see everybody at 2026? Yes, we will see everyone in 26. Oh, I've got one more slide. Oh, here you go. We have an episode coming out in just a little bit here on the podcast and we are revisiting the mystery of the best spear. I actually have a little bit of a trailer for the episode. Do you mind if I play that really quick? Go for it. I think I've got it pulled up.

Let me double check here. We might have to forego it. But let me try. I might have a little trailer for you guys here. That's great. Oh, I found it. Okay. Oh, good, okay. Here we go.

Here we go. A strange metallic sphere is found in Florida. Some of the world's leading scientists try to determine its origins. And then, the sphere is seized by the U.S. Navy. What exactly was it?

What strange attributes did it have? And just exactly where is it today? This is the story of the Betts sphere. Kayak gets my flight, hotel, and rental car right, so I can tune out travel advice that's just plain wrong. Bro, Skycoin, way better than points. Never fly during a Scorpio full moon.

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I feel like all we did was run from place to place for months, starting with Soul Foundation in Italy. We're going to sit quietly. One of our sons is coming out. We hope the other one will be able to. He doesn't quite know yet. Otherwise, we're just going to be quiet with our wonderful neighbors out here and friends. I love it. What about you? Where are you going to cover over the holidays?

Yeah. So I will be having an early Christmas with Christy and Doug, this pregg. So we're going to be doing that here in New York. Jane, my fiancé, will be joining us as well for an early Christmas. And then Jane and I will be flying to California to spend Christmas with her. family as well. So I'm really excited about that. Maybe we'll squeeze in a Disneyland trip. I don't know. That would be pretty fun.

Pretty fun. Yeah, yeah, I love it. They're a big crazy, loving family. And they're so welcoming. So I'll be going to California. I'll be having a California Christmas as it was. Excellent. Excellent.

And then it's just off around the world right after that. Portland, Hawaii, Japan, New York, Scotland, in Nova Scotia. So, yeah, feeling very blessed. But I'm going to be a tired boy. You are. And the time frames.

The time changes are. Yeah. Dozy. Oh, yeah. They always are. Yeah, they always are. You'll get grumpy Ryan a couple times. So I'm sure about that.

But yeah, yeah. Again, guys, if anyone's interested, I've got both of my books available. You can get signed copies right now here in the United States. I will inscribe them however you like. DM me or email. me emails in the show notes Ryan.spreg 51 at gmail.com

and I'd be happy to send these out before Christmas for a stocking steper but be sure to get to me very soon because I've got very, very limited copies left. So, uh, cool. That's going to do it. We are done. We're done.

I'll let you go back in the tech. Yeah, we're wrapping this year up, baby. 2025, goodbye. Um, we got some really big news coming in 2026 for somewhere in the skies. I'm very, very excited. Yeah, I've been teasing it, but yeah, we're going to have, we're going next level, as it were. We're going to have some new things coming out with somewhere in the skies, more ways for you to find somewhere in the skies, more content, more people,

joining our crew. So I'm very excited to announce who that person or persons are very soon for you guys, but thank you. Thank you to all of you for joining us tonight for your donations as well, for being there for Suzanne and I throughout this crazy year of the UFOs. I'm excited for whatever the future may hold for this topic and for us here at the show. So thank you. Happy holidays to all of you guys out there. Merry Christmas, Kwanza, Boxing Day, whatever it is you celebrate. Hanukkah as well, obviously. Have a great one. have a season's greetings as it were and we will see all of you next year so that's going to do it suzanne any last words be well everyone we so appreciate you i love that be well is the perfect way

to end this so from me to you and the dogs in the other room keep your feet on the ground but never stop searching somewhere in the skies take care guys good night there's nothing to hide at all We've made a tremendous number of mistakes. Perhaps the first and most crucial error we made was the agricultural revolution. The agricultural revolution doomed us to a life of subservience to crops. It made us sedentary, which was not only bad for us, but bad for the earth. It encouraged exponential and largely unsustainable population growth, and it set us up for a system of classes and subjugation,

because now we had a way to store and control the distribution of food. I think another catastrophic mistake we've made is in the creation and spread of AI. I think AI poses a serious existential threat, and if we don't put some serious guardrails around it soon, we're going to be in trouble. It's human to err. How we learn and grow from our mistakes is important.