Somewhere in the Skies - Immaculate Constellation, Alien Announcement Within Weeks, Netflix and Knapp, NASA and UAPTF Debrief

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

On episode 17 of the livestream, Ryan breaks down the latest UFO and space-related news, including the "bombshell" news about Immaculate Constellation, an alleged secretive UAP program tucked illegally in the Pentagon's Special Access Program apparatus. We also discuss a claimed alien announcement within the next few weeks and so much more! Patreon: www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ PayPal: [e-mail] Website: www.somewhereintheskies.com Store: http://tee.pub/lic/ULZAy7IY12U YouTube Channel: CLICK HERE Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/somewhereskies/videos Order Ryan’s new book: https://a.co/d/4KNQnM4 Order Ryan’s older book: https://amzn.to/3PmydYC Twitter: @SomewhereSkies Read Ryan’s Articles by CLICKING HERE Opening Theme Song, "Ephemeral Reign" by Per Kiilstofte Produced by LIONSGATE Copyright © 2024. Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/somewhere-in-the-skies. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former intelligence official, maybe it's also another one of the whistleblowers, I'm not sure, confirmed the existence of this program, but adding that it's run out of the Secretary of Defense Office and also warning that whoever even talks about it is put on government radar and is put in the danger zone. The danger zone? The danger zone. Our government's official position is not to speculate on this subject. We can choose to let our minds explore other possibilities to use our imaginations. for if we consider that astro-scientists agree on one point

that the possibility of life elsewhere is not only quite probable some field is there without a doubt let us suppose then that these objects are real space vehicles extraterrestrial origin and not an illusion of the mind there's nothing to hide at all hello everyone welcome to somewhere in the live stream I am having major Wi-Fi issues, so I want to apologize in advance. Hello, welcome to the most unorganized someone in the live stream of all time.

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so I couldn't think of a better thing to be doing for the next month. and that is hunting ghosts throughout the Maritimes, and we've already had some really interesting stuff that happens. So I'll be sharing some of that. I have been sharing some of that with you guys over on my Instagram and Twitter account. So make sure you're following us at Some More Skies or at Ryan Sprag 5.1, and you can watch more of that. I want to say hello to C. Kenzo over on Twitch.

Nemesis is here. Jeffrey Gareth, Michael Huntington, J. Ellen Heineken, Joyful Stones. Nisa is here. Hello, Robert Chafee, as usual. Jim is here. Pat Gallagher, Andrew, hides in long grass. Let me see.

Who else we got here? Donnie Falls is here. Going all the way to the top, guys. Cord Wainer is here. Hello, hello. And I don't think I'm forgetting anyone. Hello, paranormal. Pixie, Brew, F-O.

I love it. Love it, guys. Thank you so much for being here tonight. And I know what story everyone wants to talk about. And we will. But we got a couple others to talk about before we get to the meat of the sandwich tonight. Hello to Joseph as well. So let's start with this one that came out from our good buddy, John Greenwald over at the Black Vault. And this. is titled, I got my notes here, as for usual, heavily redacted UAP briefing between UAP Task Force and NASA has been released. All right, here we go, guys. John's done it again. A recent release of documents obtained through two Freedom of Information Act requests filed by the Black Vault in 2021 and 2022 has shed light on a briefing about UAP. And this was a briefing between the UAP Task Force and NASA. So the UAPTF was a UAP Department of Defense program established to investigate UAP reports running from 2020 until its transition into AIMS. in 2021, which would eventually become Arrow, as we all know, through all its different iterations. The requests that John put out specifically asked for all communications, emails, or otherwise between the UAP task.

Force and NASA. Because, you know, we wanted to know was NASA being a part of these studies, of these things going on? They should be. So John wanted to figure that out. So let me see here, blah, blah, blah. The case sought all communications between the task force and NASA and a second case was filed in 2022 to specifically request a classified slide deck on UAP created by Jay Stratton that was shown to NASA and likely other agencies in October of 2020. And this was also revealed by previously released documents. These newly released records sent by the U.S. Navy to the Black Fault include a heavily redacted slide deck,

which provides a glimpse into that briefing. And I'm going to go ahead and show you guys a couple of the slides that were sent out. While much of the material from the briefing remains classified, several important details can be discerned from the slides that were included in the release. One of the main points of interest is the extensive redaction throughout the slide deck, particularly in sections that discuss photographic evidence of UAPs, which is something we will get to in our meet of the live stream tonight, photograph of UAPs.

And let me see here. photographs were included, but nearly all of them remain classified with the exception of one image. And that one image was what we know as the pyramid. The flying pyramid. What was it? Was it an actual pyramid in the sky or was it Boka? What do you guys think? Let me know in the chat what the green pyramid UFO was. But interesting that that one leaked by Jeremy Corbell and George app is the only one that is being shown in this unredacted, redacted, unredacted version, I guess of this briefing. So interesting, interesting. Another notable section discusses the use of multiple sensors in detecting UAPs. According to the slide, the UAPTF employs a combination of

technologies and reporting from operators to track and analyze UAPs. The most of the multi-sensor approach is essential for corroborating sightings and gathering reliable data, which is when shared with other U.S. government partners for further analysis. One of the slides also focuses on the November 14, 2004, Tick-Tac case, which involved the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group. The briefing described the object as a, quote, solid, white, smooth craft without any visible wings or pylons, measuring approximately 46 feet in length. Oh, that's interesting.

I've never actually really thought about the length of the Tick-Tac itself, 46 feet. Hmm. It's nothing to scoff at. Despite the event being validated by debriefs from air crew and other personnel, the report notes that there was limited data available to conduct a thorough technical analysis at the time. A slide titled Potential Explanations presents three,

possible explanations for UAPs, but two of these have been redacted. Interesting. The only explanation visible suggests that some UAP sightings could be attributed to unknown weather or natural phenomena. The reduction of the other two possibilities leaves their nature unclear. So there you go, guys. I thought this was hilarious. The last slide in this briefing was the following. Questions? Yeah, a lot. A lot. So thanks. Thanks for throwing in our faces. It reminds me of David S. Pumpkins. You guys remember that Tom Hanks as an ask it. Any questions? Uh, yeah, several. Yeah. So there we go, guys. Again, this just goes to show the tenacity of John Greenwald and what he does. And it also shows how damn long it takes to get any response.

from the FOIA on this stuff. I mean, he filed these in 2020. 2020, guys. It's almost 20-25. Insane in the membrane. Insane in the brain. All right. So let's move on to our next interesting story. And that has to do with this gentleman, Simon Holland.

So, been a lot of chatter, a lot of talk lately about some big. announcement, space-related, alien-related, whether it was some massive, big object that was hurtling towards Earth, or the proof of techno-signatures by an alien civilization. And that's where we're at right now with Simon Holland, who goes by Professor Simon Holland, on YouTube. I've been a lot of debate on that in the past few days on Twitter as well, of him not being an actual professor, but goes by that on his YouTube channel. You can go to his YouTube channel and hear him argue that point. I'm not here to argue that point. I'm here to talk about his claims, and they are as bold as can humanly possibly be. So this article comes to us from Express UK,

and the title of this article was, NASA partner says alien announcement to come in weeks, as he claims we have found it. Mission accomplished, guys. Game over. Live stream's done. Every UFO podcast is over. We're all going into retirement. We're going to have to find something else to talk about.

Maybe ghosts. Oh, ghosts. Sorry, inside joke with my haunted crew. I'll let you guys in on it when the episodes start air. Anyways, let's get back to Mr. Simon Holland. Simon Holland, who has claimed to have collaborated with NASA on projects such as tracking Earth-threatening asteroids, is convinced he's onto groundbreaking revelations that we are not alone. His information was given to him by members of breakthrough listen, which, oh, sorry, there's a bug in here that literally just landed on my nose.

Oh, I love live streams. Breakthrough Listen, as you guys may or may not know, is a new venture being put on by Zuckerberg over Facebook and a bunch of other scientists and whatnot. Ryan froze when he said when the announcement would come. He's been hacked. Oh, I'm freezing. Sorry, guys. Yeah, my Wi-Fi is just not cutting it over here. Within weeks.

Within weeks, Jim, that's when this announcement is supposed to be coming. So buckle up, buddy. Talk about a November surprise. That's a terrible joke. So Simon suggests researchers associated with the Oxford-based endeavor may already hold compelling proof of alien signals intercepted by the Parks Telescope in Australia. They found, this is Simon, quote, they found the evidence of a non-human technological signature a few years ago, using the Parks Telescope in Australia. This is breaking news as of yesterday, but the Chinese might beat them to make the announcement with their fast, which is a 500-meter aperture spherical telescope program.

It's the largest telescope in the world since Arecibo. You guys remember Aricebo, Puerto Rico, when that thing collapsed. That was heartbreaking. Anyways, the coordinates of the target object known as BLC1 are allegedly known to the Chinese, and both teams are vying to be the first to make the highly prestigious announcement. Five potential technosignatures candidates were identified from a re-examination of SETI's SETI-at-Home Screen Saver Program, which used the combined resources of the world's PCs to sift through the vast amounts of data generated by radio telescopes.

The LC-1 is considered the most promising. by far. Simon stated that, quote, it's a single point source and it's not just noise. The signal, instead of being the giant buzz of everything in the universe, that we hear from all radio telescopes,

was a narrow electromagnetic spectrum. The scientists, understandably, are proceeding with extreme caution before making such a monumental announcement. However, Simon anticipates that it could be made by either the breakthrough listen team in Oxford losing my breath in Oxford or the Chinese team within the next few weeks.

Wow. What do you guys think? What do you think of these claims being made by one professor Simon? I'm going to go up in the chat. Three body problem anyone, Pat says. Yeah, for sure, man. Gareth says this is why we're going to, we're going for catastrophic disclosure. Oh, God.

I don't know if that's a fruit fly or something in here. The Chinese could throw the whole toolbox into the works, let alone a spinner. Yeah. Nothing Burger with cheese, J. L. and I. Nickens says. There's been talk about this since before J.W.S.T. even. Nemesis, interesting. Yeah. I do wonder, like, if there was an embargo on any truth of us having found alien signatures, radio, techno.

whatever bio signatures. If when James Webb finally went out there, they're like, here we go. They're going to find it all out. They're going to figure it all out. Now the jig, the J-W-S-T jig is up. Okay, so this is

where this story goes a little south, guys. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news. I'm just the messenger. I am no scientist. I'm clearly not as educated as people like Simon. nor the Breakthrough Listen people. However,

however, Andrew Simeon, who is the director of Breakthrough Listen, has commented on this claim. And he says, the story is nonsense. And is not true. I also spoke to my contact at the European Space Agency,

who was pretty high up, and whatever. If you want to know his name, DM me, I'll send it to you guys. I will not say it on air because I do not have permission to do that, but I will not have my quote-unquote source and not tell people who that is.

If you're interested, DM me, send me an email, and I will be happy to give you my source's name on that. But he as well also said, this story is complete bunk. So, Womp, Womp, Womp Choyce Hotels get you more of what you value.

Comfort in, it's calling your name Save on the stay. Oh, and free waffles are yours to claim Book direct at storeshotels.com. Sad. Super sad. I was looking forward to it.

Would have been a good way to end the year. It would have been a good Halloween surprise, I guess. But it is what it is. And who knows? Like, I have no doubt that Simon is talking to people at Breakthrough Listen and other people as well. And he has contacts in NASA. So look, maybe some of this could be true, but I don't think we're going to get an answer to, are we alone in the universe in the next couple weeks?

I just don't see that happening. So we'll see. We'll see. Hello to Martin Wilson. Joseph is here as well. Welcome, everyone. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Okay.

We're going to get to our main story of the night, guys. This is going to be a quick one tonight, just because it's Thanksgiving here in Canada, actually. So I'm going to be going to celebrate that with Paul Kimball very soon. But I'm going to skip to one more story. We're going to take a very, very quick break. And then we're going to get to the one and number. only immaculate constipation. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, immaculate constellation. I can't even pretend that that was an accident. I am not that good of an actor. Let's talk about a brand new

documentary. So good? We're going to talk about a brand new documentary that is going to be dropping on November 8th on Netflix, and that's from the one, the only George Knapp. So I'm going to go ahead and play that trailer for you guys here. We'll talk a little bit about that. quick break, and then we will get straight into the big story of the week, and that's Immaculate Constellation. All right, give this a watch, and I'll see you on the other side. You are what we would classify as a whistleblower. Yes, that would be exactly what I am. I want to be able to share this with the world. How can we help you break this story? There is enormous amount of evidence to suggest that we do have a non-human intelligence interacting

with us on this planet. to get beyond that obvious question, are UFOs real? For what really matters, why are they here? And what do they want from us? We can handle it, can't we? My name is George Knapp. People know me as the UFO reporter. Last year, the Pentagon debuted Arrow to investigate the UFOs.

Arrow has found no evidence. If they would go to such lengths to discredit this topic, it tells us we're going to have to do it ourselves. We need solid evidence, and we need it now. We've had some pretty dramatic UFOs. encounters all over the world. How much if you'd have been

ques me ques something weird happened to those bulls. What happened in Phoenix was seen by thousands of people. Federal agents were confiscated videos afterwards. He said,

Parzure concerned with tentative, it never happened. We are not alone. The technology that we faced was far superior than anything that we had. We've seen a loozo around the lancha. there will be some information that's going to be put out

with devil shock the world. The more we can bring out of the shadows, the closer we get to the answers. Well, there it is, guys. Investigation Alien, coming to us November 8th from George Napa. What do you guys think? Saw some familiar faces in there. Beatrice was in there.

Michael Masters, Chris Mellon, I think I saw at one point. Or was I imagining that? I'm not sure. I was swatting whatever. flies or whatever in this room what is going on um but yeah yeah uh a lot of UFO videos which was interesting um although i did see that mr the one and only mic west who debunked my UFO just a few weeks ago as a seagull sometimes it's just a seagull guys i will never live that one down that was

very embarrassing yeah laugh it up suzanne yeah yeah Yeah. But anyways, yeah, it seems that McWest has already come out with a video debunking every single UFO video in that trailer alone. So make of that what you will. Obviously, McMast is not the be all end all when it comes to video analysis. But let's be honest, within the field of uphology, he often does a pretty good job. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. Think of him what you will. I do think people like him are necessary to keep a lot of people grounded in this field.

Fruitflies are miniature surveillance drones. No! No, I'm being surveilled for saying immaculate constipation. Well, what else was in the trailer that really stood out? You know, there was a talk that we're going to have. find out some shocking stuff. Very soon. Welcome to Uphology.

Welcome to every single week of Uphology. I'm interested to see the entire sort of career of George Napp. So that's cool. I saw some crop circle action in there. Hopefully he'll kind of dig into his work over in Russia when he was able to smuggle a bunch of stuff out over there of their UFO materials. So we'll see from that. But what did you guys think?

I want to know in the chat. Let me go up here. George Rips. Let's see. Johan says, I just don't see proof of NHI yet. Don't think Knapp has it. Nisa says looks like a fun time. Hello to Dalyan.

Welcome, welcome. Jeffrey says, look like, love George Knapp. Looks really interesting. I think they may feature some U.S.os. Look, if I'm going to get some new videos to look at in this documentary, like, cool, cool. Gareth says, you know, the more I see at the images of Graves, crush, and favor taking the oath is the best evidence for UFOs. Hmm. Interesting.

I would say, Gareth, I don't know if it's evidence, but it's extremely credible testimony. you know, in terms of evidence, there was very little evidence brought forward in the congressional UFO hearing. But the fact that they swore under oath to these testimonies is telling. It does say a lot. So I do agree with you on that point. It doesn't, I personally don't think it hurts the UFO topic. Does it help it or push it further? That's yet to be seen, especially with David Grush, who again had made some incredible, claims, but most of it hasn't been backed up by verifiable evidence or documentation yet. It's still just what he heard from individuals. I'm not, like, this isn't me completely poo-pooing grush or anything like that.

The evidence is yet to be seen. So make of that what you will. Again, this will all tie in to our next story. So, yeah, yeah. Pat loves George Ness. doing great work, the Lord's work, as it were. Let me see here. I should interview George Donnie says.

Yeah, absolutely, man. Always happy to have George on. I had him on, I had him and Comkeller, her on back when their Skinwalkers at the Pentagon book came out. That was a fascinating interview. I had a great time. I had a great time with them. So I'd be happy to.

Gareth says, it's such a powerful image because of the way that they pose. That's fair. I understand that. Martin Wilson, have you seen the new jellyfish pictures, Ryan? What do you think? Suzanne and I were just talking about that before we went on air. I have not had a chance to look at them yet. I've been running around all day. I had two meetings for my documentary and also for haunted our television show here. And just been crazy. It was a feat to even get this live stream going tonight. So I want to thank all of you. What does that say?

Oh, no, private. Oh, okay, okay. Top secret. You guys can't know. You can't know. Oh, I see. I've got it. Don't mind us, guys.

We're just having a completely top secret majestic conversation without you. Anyways, let me see. NAPS. Michael Hudson says, God, everything is going so slow on Stream Yard tonight. Stream Yard, guys, we might be moving platforms because Streamyard has not been behaving lately, and they doubled their price. So we will see what happens.

Napstock in the 90s were the best. This is all contemporary political UAP drama manufactured by those involved. All right, guys. So, sorry, I'm just reading the chat. Just reading the chat. I'm going to take a very quick break, and then we are going to talk about immaculate constellations. and all the latest thoughts and opinions by several different people. And it's going to be fun.

It's going to be fun to talk all about this new UAP program alleged to exist. So stick with me. We will be right back here on Summer in the live stream, and I'll see you on the other side. Hey, everyone. Ryan Sprague here, host of Somewhere in the Skies. If you've ever thought about supporting us, we have great two easy options for you right now.

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joining us, we talked all about a black vault about documents that he was able to obtain over there, John Greenwald, about the UAPTF and NASA and their sharing of information about really fascinating stuff. Just go to the black vault.com, and you can learn more all about that story. We also talked about these latest extremely sensational claims being made by Simon Holland about us discovering alien techno signatures

and that we will know in the next few weeks. However, that story has basically been 100% debunked, so sorry about that. But let's get to the big story that everyone's talking about, and that is Secret Pentagon UFO program named by whistleblower. Here we go. You guys ready

for another few months of bickering back and forth on UFO Twitter. Actually, I'll bring it up later, but maybe we won't. Maybe we will have some clarification on all of this sooner than we think. But basically, this story comes to us from journalist Michael Schellenberger at Public. And Michael says that he reports, I should say,

that according to an anonymous whistleblower, there is a Pentagon program that collects in quarantine's information on UFO sightings in counters and crash retrievals. So I'm going to go ahead and play a video that comes to us from Ross Coulthart over at News Nation. So Ross was the first two interview. Schellenberger all about this. So let's go ahead and watch this video and we'll talk about it on the other side. Sound good?

Give this a watch. Ledges the existence of a secret Pentagon, UAP, and UFO program. And it's called Immaculate Constellation. The report turned over to Congress claims the government has high-resolution pictures of UAPs. In the latest episode of News Nation's reality, check, Ross Colthard sat down with Michael Schellenberger, the independent journalist, who spoke to that whistleblower. It's a fascinating. There's much more in it that I could, than I could summarize in the article, but there's just a fascinating description of different UAPs that we've all heard about,

orbs and Tic Tac and disks and triangles and boomerangs and all the different, you know, you think about the Phoenix Lights. And so you sort of, if you have some familiarity with the big UAP cases, it's very striking to see that there is a database of UAPs captured apparently by the Defense Department and the intelligence community in a database that Congress, at a minimum, the gang of age should have access to. That would be something. That's on the latest episode of News Nation's reality check. All you got to do is just scan this QR code on your screen to watch that episode right now, not right now, after I talk to Ross here. Joining me now, I have News Nation special correspondent Ross Colthardt.

Ross, good morning to you. Give us more. What more do we know about the whistleblower and this immaculate constellation program? Well, good morning, Markey. And firstly, it's multiple whistleblowers that are backing this account. I'm aware of allegations that this particular whistleblower has gone to Congress and given this evidence in a report. It's a very lengthy report that details and is supported by other people. with knowledge of this program,

alleging basically that the RO, the Pentagon's UAP investigation office, and the Pentagon, have illegally withheld from Congress knowledge of a secret UAP retrieval and reverse engineering program, and more importantly, that they are aware of a large body of information,

UAPs, particularly the human intelligence, photographs, videos, and they're a very high resolution, much higher V. And I think the key incident that's the most extraordinary is there are allegations made in the report that one of the top-line fighters in the U.S., the F-22 Raptor, was actually boxed in by as many as three to six orbs and forced out of an airspace area. The other thing, Ross, that caught my eye because I was reading Schellenberger's piece was also that a former intelligence official, maybe it's also another one of the whistleblowers, I'm not sure,

confirm the existence of this program, but adding that it's run out of the Secretary of Defense Office and also warning that whoever even talks about it is put on government radar and is put in the danger zone, that's ominous, Ross. It is. It's very ominous. And look, I should note, the Defense Department has issued a statement formally denying categorically that there is any special access program, unacknowledged, or special access program that has the term's immaculate constellation. But frankly, there are multiple sources backing Schellenberger's story, and he's sticking to a story and saying he knows he's right.

So really, it's a matter for the Pentagon now because they're going to be questioned. There's going to be hearings in the Congress. People are going to be deposed and asked questions. And if they have lied, there's going to be a reckoning. Immaculate Constellation, Immaculate Constellation. Immaculate Constellation. What about, oh, Immaculate Constellation. Okay.

Immaculate Constellation. Guys, I'm sorry. I know my connection is terrible. So I'm sorry if it's jumpy and everything. Hopefully I'll be in a much better area next week for the live stream with a better connection. So I know it's jumpy. I'm sorry, jittery and jumpy. But also immaculate constellation.

So what do we do? What do we do here, guys? Where do we go from here? I don't know. I don't know. Let's read a little bit more information about Immaculate Constellation. The program allegedly includes information from different types of intelligence, including high quality images and signature intelligence. Schellenberger did not reveal the Wiss of Ler's precise role or whether they were employed as a Defense Department employee or as a contractor. He did tell NewsNation that he met with the whistleblower and verified their credentials and also independently confirmed the existence of the program with unrelated sources. According to Schellenberger, the whistleblower discovered the program by accident after stumbling upon a database containing UFO information. That's interesting. Reminds me of Gary McKinnon who hacked into all the NASA stuff and accidentally found UFO material. Interesting. In one incident, you know, Ross did mention that one where Orbs boxed in a fighter jet, which is crazy. In another incident, the crew on an aircraft carrier

reported seeing an orange-red sphere descend from a high altitude and describe feeling uneasy and as if he had snapped out of a trance following the encounter. Got some physiological effects going on there. You know, report Arrow denied any evidence that UAPs are alien. The report did acknowledge the existence of the Kona Blue program, which was intended to reverse engineer any recovered UAP technology. Interesting. So there is some precedents for programs like this, obviously.

But this one is apparently something different. So, yeah, that's kind of where we're at with this story. you know, it's now out there, which sometimes is the only way to get any more information about this stuff. Now we see if Immaculate Constellation still exists under that name, I seriously doubt it. Apparently the program is ongoing. This isn't a program from the past.

It is still happening. So that's interesting. I'm going to play a clip, and I can't believe I'm doing this from Joe Rogan. because he did have Schellenberger on to talk about this. And I actually agree with a lot of Joe Rogan says in this clip. So I'm going to go ahead and play that. And we'll talk a little bit more about this story with another opinion by another individual shortly. So go ahead and give this a watch.

We'll talk about it on the other side. Apologies for the connection, guys. In that report, they claim that there is a, that the Pentagon is, is illegally withholding information from Congress about a secret UAP program. And that secret UAP program is considered a parent program of other programs, but it's called Immaculate Constellation. I was told by a, I had it confirmed by a second source that this is the name. I also was told that if we revealed the name that we would probably get under surveillance.

If I wanted to spread misinformation or disinformation, if I was an intelligence agent, I think I would get someone to be a whistleblower. I would sanction whistleblowers. I would tell them go on podcasts, go on radio shows, go on television, and discuss all these different disclosures. And you can't tell them everything. Top secret stuff, you know, some stuff you got to keep your secret. Boy, I wish I could tell you. But there's more. I can't tell you.

There's a lot going on. And that's a really good way, I would think, if I was in control of a narrative that I wanted to be continuously slippery. Like, this is a very slippery conversation. Like, you never get to the end of it. And what would be the motivation? Because there's some sort of a program that exists that they want to hide. And the best way to hide it is to continually bring up and then debunk these fake programs. I'm comfortable saying I'm like 90, 95% that the government is hiding information.

Okay. And the reason I'm so confident of that is because Donald Trump said so multiple times that they're hiding information. And I cite him in the article. They probably told him that. And also they lied to him about a bunch of stuff. Oh, sure. Didn't even tell him about Chinese drones because they were he was going to shoot him down. So they told him something that he says has not been made public to the American people.

So if that's, so my view is, look, if you think it's, it's either a secret weapons program, that it's a government disinformation program, that it's just mis-sightings, then I want the government, I want to, they have an obligation to tell us. Hmm. Interesting. Interesting. I just can't believe he quoted Donald Trump as being the bearer of all. accuracy and credibility when it comes to this. But whatever. I agree with Joe that if you wanted to sow more misinformation, more disinformation,

a good way to do it is to plant the seeds of a program out there, give it this name, and let the public run with it. So I get that. And it could all be under the guise of national security. and it actually reminds me of something called MJ12, which that's where we're going to head next, guys. I want to touch on a blog article that came out recently by Kevin Randall, and he has some experience with things like this,

where a program is said to not exist, and then we come to find out that it does exist. So a pretty even-keeled sort of thing and let me go ahead and get this slide up here. God, this connection has got awful. I am so sorry, you guys. We're almost done. We're almost done if you can believe it.

So basically, Kevin Randall breaks this down to give us more context of Immaculate Constellation and where we should be right now on all of this in its early stages. Let me go ahead. I'm going to read right from this blog post. So Kevin says in the blog post, DoD spokeswoman Susan Goff, who has been called on many times on UFO and UAP questions, when they are asked, denied on Wednesday any knowledge of a special access program known as Immaculate Constellation.

I'm not sure that this is relevant because it is, if it was a special access program, which would also suggest a need to know, and she might not have been in the loop. would a spokeswoman or spokesman for that matter be read into every single classified program? If they are not, then they have plausible deniability, meaning that she can say such things as having no knowledge of a program and be telling the truth. It doesn't mean the program doesn't exist, only that she doesn't know about it. Kevin goes on to say,

I'm reminded that when the Moondust project was inadvertently revealed in 1986, the Air Force denied that such a program existed. When shown official documents with the name Moondust on them, a higher-ranking Air Force officer said Moondust did exist but had not been used. Other documents refuted that claim as well. The point is that the first officer, Lieutenant Colonel John E. Madison of the Congressional Inquiry Division Office, wrote, quote, There is no agency nor has there ever been at Fort Belver, Virginia, which would deal

with UFOs or have any information about the incident in Roswell. In addition, there is no project moon dust or operation blue fly. Those missions never existed, end quote. And Randall goes on to say most of what Madison wrote was the truth. There may well not have been any agency at Fort Belvoir that dealt with UFOs of Roswell, which of course doesn't mean that such agencies might not exist or other installations. And he is accurate in saying there is no project moon dust because Moondust was the code words dealing with the UFO material.

So Madison wasn't lying. He just didn't have access to all the info he needed to properly answer the question put to him. So basically, Kevin Randall says the point is that even people at the highest levels aren't read into all programs and a denial by Gough that she had no knowledge of such a program as Immaculate Constellation doesn't mean there is no such program. The real problem here is that Schellenberger has not identified. his source. Years ago, decades really, we were presented with documents suggesting a cover-up of the Roswell UFO crash. Well, photographic film arrived and when developed, revealed the existence

of a special group known as MJ12 to exploit and direct the recovery of the Roswell UFO. The trouble with these documents was that we didn't know who would send them. We didn't know where they originated. Finally, we didn't have the originals which could have been tested. The point is that originally the MJ12 documents caused a stir not only in the UFO community, but among the news media and those interested in UFOs. Investigation revealed the flaws and the major flaws was we didn't know the original source. Without that, we were left with an interesting aside into the possibility of a copra. Eventually, nearly everyone agreed that the documents were a hoax and that was underscored by the lack of the original source. That's where we are with immaculate constellation.

We have no source and we don't even have copies of documents suggesting there are something to the claims. At least MJ12 had documents, which led to the revelation that it was a hoax. We can look to whistleblower David Grush. He talked of high-level important people who told him about UFO crashes, but he supplied zero names. I can deduce some of those names and while they had once. held important posts in the government or were respected scientists, they didn't say anything about Grush's sources other than we have the names. Didn't prove that they had told Grush or that Grush overheard was accurate information, only that they might have said it. I point all this out

because we now have more information about an important government program hidden from the public, which supposedly hides information about UFOs, but we have no way of vetting the information. We have no of finding corroboration. We just must believe the story is told by this unidentified source, and I ask why. Here's something else that hasn't been considered, and that is that this collection of UFO images might not have a thing to do with alien visitation, but is instead images of terrestrial craft that have been flying around the various locations in the U.S. It might be the very images that are held in secret because of the revelation of them might provide information of intelligence value to our competitors. In other words, national security might have raised its ugly head.

And lastly, right now, I can't, and this is Kevin Randall, I can't verify that immaculate constellation exists. But then I can't reject the tale either because the evidence to do that doesn't yet exist. I only caution against drawing any concrete conclusions now because we simply don't have enough information to just either way justify any type of conclusion to it. That was a marathon, but all very telling. It's too early. It's simply too early. We need more information about it. We can't just depend on Schellberg's reporting.

We need other reporters to start reporting on this. Whether it's mainstream media like the New York Times, CNN, Politico, Newsweek, we need them to now look at Schellenberger's story and see what they can come up with. That's kind of where we're at. So this is a great blog post by Kevin. Thank you to Suzanne for putting the link to it. Go check it out, guys. I'm going to go ahead and look at what you guys think, because I did.

put a poll up on Twitter and right here on YouTube. Let's go to the Twitter one first. So I asked you guys over on the Somewhere in the Sky's Twitter account, do you believe the Immaculate Constellation is a genuine UAP program? And let's see here. I think it was out of what of the time of me screen capturing this, 136 votes. Forty-one percent of you said yes, 11 percent said no, 41% said need more info and 5.9 said don't care. Wow. You guys are evenly split between yes and need more info. That's interesting. That's pretty interesting. Let's go to the one right here on YouTube. 39. Oh, it's changing. Hold on. 37% of you said yes. 10% said no. 49% said need more info. 3% of you said odd. don't care. So it's pretty much the same. A bit more of you said need more info than yes. But that's kind of where everyone's at. I'm surprised, actually, that that many of you are just willing to accept this off the bat. But that's just me. That's just me. Let me go up into the chat

and see what you guys are saying. We'll close things out. I know this has been a choppy one. Gareth says, let's face it, there are so many project groups and programs within the U.S. Mick, it happens to not be able to connect any dots. Project allergy prone muskrat. Yep, I'm not a match. I love it, David. Robert says, they are all full of BS. They have the documents and information.

So, yeah. You know, what else can we really say, guys? I mean, it's too early to tell with Immaculate Constellation. I'm just going to start saying it like that. We just need more info. And could that come actually with this upcoming congressional UFO here? Maybe we will hear from one of these whistleblowers. Maybe we will find out more about these programs from those who actually worked in them.

And maybe we'll even hear from this particular. whistleblower if they already have not been jailed or something. I don't know. I don't know. But we'll see. And that's only in, you know, less than like four weeks, maybe. About a month, actually, before we get that congressional hearing. I'm going to wait till then, honestly. If any more information comes out before then, awesome. But I'm going to wait till then and see what happens. Hello to Joe Turrey. Be sure to check out my interview with Joe Turrey and Michael Huntington from Lack. It was a lot of fun.

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So you can check that out in just a couple of. hours on the main feed too. And yeah, like I said, be sure to rate, review, subscribe, all of that stuff. And other than that, I'm just going to go up to the chat one more time here, guys, before we close out this extremely choppy episode. Gnostic asked a interesting question here. People near Wright Patterson did Google searches on Immaculate Constellation when Gresh made his report last year, way before his name was leaked, this name was released. Idiots couldn't even use a VPN. Yeah, I did hear the same thing that when Grush started coming forward with this crash retrieval program, that a lot of people around Wright Patterson, specifically from government-issued computers

and military computers, were Googling the term emaculate constellation. So what's going on there? what's going on there. That is interesting, to say the least. Here before we close things up, Joseph says, What has happened to need to know podcast? Has Colthard outgrown Sable? Well, I can say, Joseph, that I did spend four days recently with Bryce Sable in person here in Nova Scotia, of all places. And we talked all about it. We talked about a lot of stuff, wink, wink. Stay tuned for my documentary in the future.

But no, no, they're just, you know, they're doing their own things. Bryce is always, why am I so dark? Man, it's getting dark in here. Bryce is always working on scripts, screenplays, television pitches, stuff like that. So he's busy doing that. Ross is working full-time for News Nation now. So, you know, they're still doing the show when they can. I think they came out with an episode not too long ago.

So they're still doing it. They're still going. But yeah, they're kind of on their own schedules. You know, whereas like we're weekly, they kind of just drop episodes when they want. I envy that. That's for sure. No, I love when the week we share with you guys. Cool, cool.

So let me go to the live chat one more time. Just getting ready to read Paranormal Ranger. Someone said, who was that? Jeffrey, Jeffrey. Just got the book. Enjoyed the recent video you did. Thank you, Jeffrey. Yeah, you can go listen to my interview or watch my interview.

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