Somewhere in the Skies - JAY STRATTON Book Revealed, Priest Fired for UFO Comments, Disclosure Day Next Week, French UFO Symposium

Episode Date: June 6, 2026

Ryan and Suzanne break down the latest UFO news, including: - Jay Stratton's book release date and cover revealed. - Jacques Vallee's final book of Forbidden Science series released. - Jeremy Cor...bell tells CIA and ONDI to f*ck around a find out. - Priest and Exorcist fired for comments on aliens and UFOs. - French Parliament hosts first-ever UFO Symposium. - Disclosure Day interviews before opening next week. Join us at ANOMACON on September 12th: http://www.anomacon.com Send us a voicemail: https://www.speakpipe.com/SomewhereSkiesPod Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: http://www.buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ Substack: https://ryansprague.substack.com/ All socials and books: https://linktr.ee/somewhereskiespod Follow Suzanne on X: https://x.com/csuzannelanders Email: ryan.sprague51@gmail.com Opening theme song by Septembryo Closing song by Per Kiilstofte Livestream music by Punch Deck: https://www.youtube.com/@PunchDeck Copyright © 2026 Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. #DisclosureDay #Disclosure #UFOs #UFO #UAP #Aliens #Catholic #Religion #Weaponized #France #News #Live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everyone, what is up. I'm Rob. I'm Eamon. And you are listening to a trailer for our podcast, Monster Fuzz, which is brought to you by Spectrevision Radio. Do you like your high strangeness with an element of high silliness? Are thoughts of subterranean lizard men keeping you awake at night? Maybe Bigfoot's robbing clothes from your clothesline? Should you enter into a romantic relationship with a poltergeist that's haunting your house? If thoughts like these spin around your head like a UFO or a UAP to use the parlance of our time, then you're in good company.
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Starting point is 00:01:31 Welcome to Summer in This guy's live on a... Friday night. Yes, a Friday night. We made that decision a couple weeks ago. And now we're wondering if it was the right decision. We want your thoughts. We have a poll going over on YouTube. Do you guys like these Friday night live streams? Or would you rather we go back to our Sunday night live streams? Let me know at the poll on YouTube. If you're watching us over on Twitter, head on over to YouTube, take part in our wonderful chat, live chat discussion here. We'd love to have you. Just look for someone this guy's over on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:02:13 What's up, guys? Welcome, welcome. We got Shelley here. We got Bill. We got Jay Allen is here. Andrew Berger is always. Jamie Tree Spirit is here. Var Kalem is here.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Welcome, guys. Good day. See you. Guillaume, I know I always say that wrong. Giam. Guillaume. William. William.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I'll get it. I'll get it someday. Welcome, guys. It's so good to have you here. We're going to break down all the latest UFO-related news for you guys tonight. My private chat is popping off. Guillaume, I got it. Guillaume, thank you. This is why Suzanne is here. I swear. I swear. Keep an eye on my grammar.
Starting point is 00:03:01 UFO news. A lot of it. We talk about it tonight. You watch it. while we do it and then you take part in live chat. This is how this work. Hello to B S. What is it? B Sammy Bob Bami.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I love that. What a name. What a name. I love it. Says move live streams to a different day. I'm committed to Dumer Fridays. And I don't want to miss this. Me too. Dumer Fridays are on Fridays as well. Obviously, it's in the name.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I love those guys. I'm psychoactive over there and Clint and all the guys that do Doomer Fridays. It's such a blast. I'm super jealous and I get FOMO. So if any of them are watching, if you ever need a guest host fill in, you let me know, gentlemen. I would love to talk to you guys. I saw y'all want to contact in the desert together. And again, I was like, oh my God, these guys seem so cool.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I'd love to hang with them. So you let me know. Yeah, Jay Allen, check out Doomer Fridays. Just type it in on YouTube. It's a group of guys who get together every week and talk all the UFO news and kind of what we do here. Also, I don't want to be harsh in their groove on Friday. So, again, let me know in the chat and on the YouTube poll, Sundays, should we go back to it? It seemed to be a good day for everyone.
Starting point is 00:04:25 We tried it. Something different. I mean, a lot of you guys are watching today, which is awesome. So thank you. Thank you for being here. But yeah, yeah, hello to everyone on Twitch, on Twitter, on YouTube. on YouTube, on Facebook. We're on Facebook tonight as well,
Starting point is 00:04:40 so good to have everyone here. Okay. The only other thing I have for you guys before we get to the UFO News and bring Suzanne in, Apple, podcast, Spotify, you know what to do. Rate and review the podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:57 We put this out on the podcast every Wednesday. So rate and review. We would truly appreciate that. And what we do is we give you guys a code word or code words every week. You put that somewhere in your Apple Podcasts review or your Spotify comments, and we will know that you watch this or listen to this and we'll shout you out on the next live stream. And as you can see, the poster here in my background, that is your code words. I think it was your code words last week because we got some Apple podcast shoutouts to do.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I will be sure to do those next week as well. But your code words, once again, Disclosure Day. Thank you, Suzanne. So somewhere in Apple Podcasts, reviews or Spotify comments, put the code words, Disclosure Day. Make it fun.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Make it kind of be a part of your review or whatever. Super fun when you guys do that. And help us out. That's a great way to help us out. If it can, help us out financially. Share the show. Do what you can to help grow our summer in the sky's community.
Starting point is 00:06:03 But yeah, your ratings and reviews, truly do go a very long way. They do boost us up in the algorithms on Apple, on Spotify, and hopefully we get featured on like the front of Apple Podcasts or the front of Spotify. We made it to the front of the Spotify homepage like a month ago because of you guys. You made that happen. So please help us out and head on over to Apple Podcasts and rate and review.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Put Disclosure Day in your review or head on over to Spotify. and in the comments of this episode, put your code words. Disclosure Day. You'll know why Disclosure Day and just a little bit. The movie opens next week. Who's going? Who is going? Let me know in the chat.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Who's going to see Disclosure Day, Stephen Spielberg's upcoming event movie. And when? I'm going on Wednesday, the 10th. We're getting it a couple days early here in the UK, as opposed to June 12th when it opens in the U.S. So not to, rub it in, but there are some perks
Starting point is 00:07:04 to live in here in Scotland. I'll just put it that way. I even know some people seeing it on the 8th of June, which is, I'm jealous of that, for sure. It premieres on Wednesday here in France. Awesome. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be seeing it with you as well, my friend, here in Scotland. So, yeah, Disclosure Day. We'll be talking about it a little bit later. We have some really cool clips from Steven Spielberg himself and the cast that they sent to me personally. I am very good friends with Steven Spielberg, as many of you know.
Starting point is 00:07:40 We get coffee almost once, twice a week. Emily Blunt, she's been in a couple of my plays on Broadway. Everything I'm saying right now is a lie. I hope you guys could hear that in my voice. But we will be featuring some clips with the cast of Disclosure Day and with Steven Spielberg later on that they have done. for the press events leading up to Disclosure Day. And I think some of these clips will surprise you about how deep their knowledge is about the UFO topic
Starting point is 00:08:13 and their compassion for UFO witnesses, witnesses and experiencers. So keep a lookout for that later in the show. But it is time to bring in the one, the only, Suzanne Landers. Welcome back. Hi. Glad to be here. How's everyone? Let her know in the chat, guys.
Starting point is 00:08:35 How you doing? You've been a busy bee as usual. How's the going over there? Yeah, lots of stuff going on in my world. We have packed up and are moving our Memphis home to Santa Fe, New Mexico. The big trucks took off this morning, along with my family, people who are still there. So it's been a whole lot. And then we're going to have to, of course, reverse all that once it gets here and unpack all that and get it situated here in Santa Fe,
Starting point is 00:09:02 Mexico. Wow. I know, I know exactly what you're going through. You're talking to the guy who's moved all across the United States and now to another country. I know it's not easy. So, and, you know, I know there's so many memories, you know, that you'll leave behind. And the sentimental meter just goes up. It just goes through. I was doing really well with all this. And this is a really good thing. This is what we wanted to do. We've been living in two places. It's time to consolidate. Youngest son, who's a bronze sculptor, is moving out here as well, which Santa Fe is a real art community with his fiance.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And so all of that is really important to go ahead and do this. But that doesn't mean it doesn't get you in the heart when the moving van pulls up in front of the home you've lived in for 30 years. Right. It becomes real. Yeah. Yeah. You are saying a sort of goodbye, aren't you? You are.
Starting point is 00:09:56 You are. But, you know, it's a new chapter. And I'm so excited for you guys. I know it's been a long time coming. And all of that. It has. New memories. Really nice to be in one time zone instead of two time zones.
Starting point is 00:10:10 But you know what that means everybody. The fact that I'm going to be in a steady time zone now means it's time for Ryan to change time zones. I'm going to shake it all up again. It's situated. Some one of us changes time zones. Right. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I'll be heading to Nova Scotia in just a couple weeks to film another season of my television show, haunted heart and soul. which has premiered. I heard back on my application as official coffee girl. Have you heard anything on that? Not yet. There were a lot of applicants, so I will have to check with production on that season. Most were much higher qualified than I am, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:10:50 But yeah, yeah, it's a ghost hunting show I do in Nova Scotia, and the premiere season just started there in Canada. So, you know, as time goes on, hoping that the show will be available on places like YouTube or anyone across the world will be able to see it. But right now, it's, uh, it's airing in Canada. We're going on our third episode of the season next week. And, um, it's just, I love it. I absolutely love it. I cannot wait to get back on the road and investigate the most haunted places in Nova Scotia with those guys. And then big update on the haunted heart and soul front that I should tell you guys is, um,
Starting point is 00:11:29 season three, which will be filming later this fall, we're heading here to Scotland. We're going to be investigating across Scotland. Oh, my gosh. From old, what is it? New Scotia to Old Scotia. That's so bummed. That's right. Well, and I think your listeners would want to know that some of the earlier episodes of this and other shows that are done with Paul Kimball and you in Canada, they're available on YouTube on
Starting point is 00:11:59 the East Link channel. So if you wanted to go watch some of this, you can watch a little of it. You can't watch all of it. It's not all out there yet. But hopefully, as you said, you'll get there. Yeah, yeah. I think they got like eight or nine seasons up right now on YouTube. I don't show up until season 10, I believe, but you can watch. The show's been going on forever. It's called Haunted, the original. I'm on a spin-off series called Haunted Heart and Soul, which is a lot more light and friendly and you know we go to homes and try to help families that are dealing with their haunted house or their haunted establishment or business and it's got a lot of heart to it and soul as and some soul hopefully no wiji boards though i'm not for those wigi boards when you all start
Starting point is 00:12:42 messing with the wiji boards we do use wiji boards but we use them very carefully and very responsibly as well good but yeah hello to witness witness protection is in the chat welcome Oh, excellent. Andrew Berger Constellation. Good to have you guys here. Thank you so much for being here. And I see that Bissami Bobami used to live in Santa Fe or and I love Santa Fe because he lived in Las Cruces, which is the southern part of the state. Yeah. Still haven't been to Santa Fe, but I cannot wait to come visit you.
Starting point is 00:13:14 You, didn't you have one of our mutual UFO friends in Santa Fe somewhat recently? I did. I did. Do you think he'd mind me identifying him? I don't think so. He'll love the attention. That sweet Dan Zetterstrom. He just happened to be in Santa Fe, and I was at the Memphis house and realized he was here.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And so I messaged immediately like, where are you? And how long are you in this area? And long story short, he was able to stay at my house for a couple of weeks and do what he needed to do. I'd hear some of his latest podcast you'll see are the Santa Fe House in the background, which is kind of funny. But I think they really enjoyed this area, and I think they would like to come back. So you need to come over here. I cannot wait.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I cannot wait. And I know he actually had some maybe anomalous experiences. Yeah, he did. I don't know what happened yet. He hadn't filled me in yet. But something definitely happened. Okay. I got a message in the middle of the night.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Do you have unusual things happening here? Because, you know, it faces Los Alamos. And so, yes, we've had many, many, many anomalous things happen. Interesting. Interesting. Well, there was one story I wasn't going to talk about tonight, but since you did mention Los Alamos, we'll mention it very briefly here. We won't go too in-depth because it's not really something we want to continue tackling on the show. But you probably know what I'm talking about, Suzanne.
Starting point is 00:14:48 They did recently find the body of one of the quote-unquote. missing scientists, which was Melissa Cassius, who they found out there, unfortunately, in the wilderness, and they also found a handgun. Yes, they did. They haven't released anything else about what was going on with the handgun, if anything. I can tell you, her work phone and her personal phone were wiped to factory reset. So it's not sitting well out here, and that's maybe She was maybe 40 minutes from my house out here up towards house, up towards house,
Starting point is 00:15:30 and what's called the Carson National Forest, which is a vast, vast national forest. Now, not a forest like you see in maybe Colorado, where they're, you know, these giant tall trees. These are smaller, but they're ancient trees, you know, pinion and those kinds of things. But that's where she was. She was on a road,
Starting point is 00:15:53 a dirt road. So hopefully we'll learn a little bit more about that. Yeah, I know the family is still looking for answers, but right now it's, I think, time for them to grieve. So I hope kind of the conspiracy theories simmer down a little while the family kind of deals with this. But it is strange. It's weird. But above all else, it's tragic and unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:16:19 At least they now know. They have a little bit of close. sure I'm sure it doesn't make it any easier, but it's part of an answer. It's part of an answer. That's the best way to put it. And I hope that they can find some answers that are going to make sense to them. Right now, I'm not sure it's making any sense to them. Right. Exactly. So, you know, sending our best to their family and friends and colleagues and all that for sure. Hello to Amanda Rose is back in the chat. She said, good to be back. haven't been here in a while. It's good to see you. Good to see you. I've been there.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And Shell Bell as well. And Constellation Fleet. Hello, guys. Yeah, very sad. I know. I know. Well, let's move to, I guess, some happier. I don't, I guess it's happier. Happy or at least different. Different. That's a good. That's always the safe word to use. It is, isn't it? We finally have a release date, a release date, a
Starting point is 00:17:22 book cover and a synopsis for Jay Stratton's upcoming book. I am so sorry. Me too. We've been waiting forever for this. So I'll read a little bit here, Suzanne, and then I want to get your thoughts on this. Jay Stratton, the former director of the Pentagon's UAP task force and a central figure in the government's modern UFO investigations, has officially announced his forthcoming memoir out of the shadows revealing the truth about non-human human intelligent life. Oh, that is quite a subtitle. I want him to come out of the shadows, right?
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah. We need that. So the book is scheduled for release on October 13th of 20206 through Harper-Collins-William-Morrow imprint. In the book, Stratton promises to break his public silence by sharing first-hand accounts from his 16 years
Starting point is 00:18:18 investigating UAP and alleged non-human intelligence within the U.S. government. According to the publisher, the memoir chronicles his discovery of what he describes as an 80-year effort to conceal evidence of non-human intelligent life, detailing behind-the-scenes investigations, encounters, bureaucratic battles, and the personal toll these experience took on him and his family. The book is being positioned as the most comprehensive insider account yet. of the government's UFO programs, with Stratton claiming to reveal previously undisclosed information about the investigations, national security concerns, and the ongoing struggle to bring greater transparency to the phenomenon. The announcement comes amid renewed public interest in UFO
Starting point is 00:19:07 disclosure, declassified government files, and Stratton's prominent role in the documentary, The Age of Disclosure. So there you go, guys. We've got a book cover of book title, that subtitle, Suzanne, really call my attention. What do you think of that? I think so, too. And gosh, if there's anybody who I would love to have him tell everything he knows, it is this gentleman right here. And maybe Lekatsky, but, you know, not that he's the only one, but I'm so hopeful about this book. Now, I don't know. Here's what I couldn't find for this story. I couldn't find like, has he already been through OD&I? I suspect he has, but I couldn't put my finger on, oh, yes, he was approved to talk about XYZ.
Starting point is 00:19:55 So I don't know where all that is. And if he hasn't, it's going to be a limited thing, I suspect, don't you? A limited disclosure kind of thing because of those limits. Good points. Now, I believe since we now have a release date, which is pretty close to be honest. In terms of a release date, October is just around the corner. Because there's now a release date, it does make me think he has gone through Dobser, like, with a fine-tooth comb.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Because that was what was keeping this book held up for so long, was the Dobsar process. Skywatch signal. So everything in the book will have been cleared at this point. At least that's what I am gathering. I keep coming back to this subtitle of revealing the truth about non-human intelligence. This isn't just a vague reference to UAP or the Pentagon's investigation. This man is saying in the subtitle of his nonfiction book that we know the truth. They know the truth.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Somebody knows the truth about non-human intelligence. And it's hard to imagine that he would go that far in this subtitle. title and then not deliver in the substance of the book. So I'm really anxious to, I'm anxious to see. And I'm sure it's going to make a splash. For our listeners, I tried to find a link to the monster box, you know, deliver of books out there. It's not out there yet. So, but I'm watching. And when it is out there, I'll send out both Harper Collins and the giant. Please do. Please do. Amanda says, it'll be interesting to see if Stratton's book coincides with Elizondo's book or if there are any
Starting point is 00:21:47 differences. This is something I wanted to bring up because I do believe you know, Stratton has kind of gone on the record and been like hey guess what, I am the most senior person who has ever investigated UAP and I have
Starting point is 00:22:03 a lot more information than other people who have come forward. And this led a lot of people to speculate that possibly he and Elizondo who worked together tangentially for some time might have had kind of like a disagreement or a yes uh a difference of opinions or a difference of opinion or a falling out of some sort i mean they did both appear in the age
Starting point is 00:22:30 of disclosure documentary which was filmed over three and a half years ago at this point um but i do think this will be kind of if you're looking for a quote unquote whistleblower or as it were of someone who's worked on a legacy investigation program of some sort. This is the guy. This is our man. That's right. Elizondo was kind of the one who got the ball first, but I feel like it's now time for him to, you know, heave it on over to old Jay Stratton to go in for the touchdown.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I think so. You know, Lou took a couple of hits, whether they were warranted or not, I don't know. but with his photo that turned out to be, was it a ceiling light? I can't remember. I know it was a crop photo. Yeah. It was a crop circle. Henry threatened does not carry that baggage because he's been so quiet over all these years.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I also have a, so I don't know. So maybe this will be something of substance. But I love it in context, Ryan, of Disclosure Day, age of disclosure. the public hearing coming out next week, I think, with Mr. Grush. All of the, it just feels like, holy moly, we stepped into a bit of a whirlwind forward, I think, in terms of reasonable discussion with substantive people. Absolutely. And, you know, if you really got like the cork board out and started making the connections,
Starting point is 00:24:08 there are some connections to be made. have Dan Farrah, the director and creator of the Age of Disclosure documentary, he owns the rights to the film and television version of Jay Stratton's book. So I think we can expect, I think, a television series in the future about Jay Stratton and this book. But not only that, Dan Farah has worked with Stephen Spielberg on Ready Player One. He helped produce that. movie. So you've got that connection. You got the age of disclosure documentary. So all these people are somehow connected when it comes to disclosure. I personally do not feel it's just a coincidence that Farah's documentary was called The Age of Disclosure. And Spielberg's movie is called Disclosure Day.
Starting point is 00:25:01 They're all talking to one another. I don't care what anyone says. They're all talking to one another and seeing when's this coming out when can i get the most bang for my buck in terms of exposure like i know how these things work in the entertainment industry like they're all trying to you know ride the wave of what will be the biggest of all these things and that is stephen spillberg's movie let's be honest so um yeah yeah it's all connected no matter what anyone says it's not it's all connected seems like a vortex to me Yeah, but you know what? I'll take it. Yeah. I will take it. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Look who we've got in the chat now. Oh, welcome, Darren. Darren from Osaka is here who will be a speaker at Anamicon 2026. So welcome to the Anamicon family, Darren. And good to have you. I can't wait until we can get it completely filled in and released everybody to hear who's speaking. It's such a good group. Yep, it's growing every day. As it always does. For sure. I did. I did start. a Instagram for AnamaCon. If you guys are on Instagram, you can follow The Real Anamicon,
Starting point is 00:26:12 where we'll be doing some fun videos and images. I've got our first speaker image up there of Nomar Slavik, who is a filmmaker. He'll be joining us as well. So that'll be really good. A lot of fun. He's always really, really fun to have with us. Oops, I didn't mean to get rid of that. Thank you, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Thank you. We're clicking at the same time, everybody. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was, yeah, I don't know what I was doing there. Uh-oh, now, Dailin, why are you skeptical? Tell us in the chat. I feel all rather, yeah, what are you skeptical about Dailing?
Starting point is 00:26:44 We need to know. Break it down for us. Break it down for us. Suzanne, I want to break down another book with you that was recently announced and released. And that is from the one, the only, shock valet. Yeah. He recently spoke at Contact in the Desert, which was this past weekend. out there in California.
Starting point is 00:27:06 And he released his volume 7, the final volume of his journal book series, Forbidden Science. And the subtitle is Final Report, which kind of get you a little bit. It did. It did me too. Look, I, this man is an icon. He is controversial. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Some people, you know, don't agree with some of what he says, any of what he says, all of what he says. But you got to give the man credit. He's been doing this for 50, 60 years at this point. He's in his 80s at this point. I've been honored to have him on the show twice now. I'm hoping to get him back on one more time at least to talk about forbidden science seven. But yeah, he's coming. It's out.
Starting point is 00:28:00 It released a few, like a week ago. And it's weird because I haven't heard anything about it. I know. I know. And I'm with Skywatch Signal. I almost feel like this is a bit of a swan song as he steps down or steps aside and makes way for the next group of people like him. But he's such an incredible thinker and speaker and processor of complex data that I hate for this to end. Me too.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It's definitely a passing of the baton, I think, in many ways. for whoever is inspired by his journals and picks that up and, you know, works off of the shoulders of giants, as they say. That's exactly right. So it's frustrating because the only summary of the book on Amazon right now says the following. The, let's see here, a new reality altering the arc of human history. Jacques Valet, a longtime researcher of the UFO phenomenon worldwide. and a major proponent of quote-unquote disclosure presents the final volume of his journals
Starting point is 00:29:11 where he cautions us about the spiritual dangers on the road ahead and warns of shocking revelations still to come. Good Lord, that is ambiguous. I know. I don't know what it is. Well, no, it's going to have to get hold of it and do a review or something. I don't know. I ordered it.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Of course you did. So I'm ready to dig in. If anyone has read it yet or has their copy, like, let us know what is in this thing. It's the final freaking report. It's the culmination of seven decades of this man's work in the UFO field. Like what conclusions has he come to? Has he come to any? Where does he think this is all heading?
Starting point is 00:29:55 And the flip of all that, Ryan. What's the biggest conundrum to him? I love to know what, you know, what does he see as? the biggest open question out there on more of a micro scale. I know the big questions are what is at NHI. But to him, in order to solve that problem, what's the biggest conundrum? I love when the experts tell you what their problem is as well as what their solutions have been on other topics. For sure. I would have to agree with that. Now, I did mention that he was at contact in the desert and a attendee
Starting point is 00:30:30 at contact in the desert was recently on podcast UFO with Martin Willis and they kind of broke down the conference but there was one part that this person
Starting point is 00:30:41 mentioned about hearing Jacques Valet talk and it really caught my attention so I did pull that clip from the Martin Willis episode do you mind if I play that? Let's play it.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Okay. All right. Give me one sec to find this guys. This is Jacques Valet. This is, excuse me, this is a woman named, I believe Kelly is her name, who was at the event and she is telling Martin about something he brought up that is in this book, Forbidding Science. Let me find the video here. All right, guys, give this a watch. Specific moment in Valet's discussion, the one that you had a picture of, Martin, where he was speaking about some of the material from his new book.
Starting point is 00:31:29 his the seventh volume of his journals just came out. So they were speaking a little bit about that. And he actually said, I actually went back and had to look and relisten, but he said that we do have beings in labs in this country that people are working with trying to establish and set the groundwork for communication. And I like, it was one of those things afterwards. He had said so many things that I had to go back and listen to it three or four times and that's really what he said. And that was ballet, I just consider like,
Starting point is 00:32:07 I don't know, maybe the most trustworthy voice. And so for him to say that was really. Yeah, that's pretty major. Wow. Now, I was in there, like a lot of the situations where I was in the room and I had to leave, you know, for an interview, which that was one of them. And so I did, I didn't get to hear that in particular. And so that's, that is something I've never heard before. That's pretty crazy. It is, isn't it? And you come from Jacques Valet.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Yeah. I mean, you don't just willy-nilly say something like that. Right. Not coming from some rando on the street corner. Yeah. We have all these mythologies and, you know, speculations that there are recovered non-human. biologics are beings out there,
Starting point is 00:33:02 a Roswell and all these other crashes and all that. But Valet is saying, yeah, we have them. They're being tested. They're in America. I want to know what the substance of setting the groundwork for communication. Because, you know, we don't often hear from people or experiencers who are not actually in communication at some level, telepathically, psionically. or just an immediate knowing.
Starting point is 00:33:32 So I think that's an interesting part of the statement as well. What does that actually mean? What does it mean? When we find out in the book, that's what I'm. Right. That's right. That's right. That's what I'm hoping.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Yeah, I'll have my hands on it in a few days. So I'll start kind of revealing these things as I read them. But I'm hungry and I'm ready. Ready to read. I want to give a shout out to basically. Sammy Bobami for the $2 super chat. Truly do appreciate that. That's to you guys.
Starting point is 00:34:04 We're on our way to our goal of five tonight. Help us out if you can. We truly do appreciate it. And if we reach our goal of five super chats or super stickers tonight, I or me and Suzanne will do some sort of fun watch along. Maybe something. Next week. I always roperated these damn things.
Starting point is 00:34:21 But okay. Well, I didn't even mean to do this transition, but we're going to move from one Frenchman in Jacques Valet. to a story about France. You're ready for this one? Hey, Bon. Wee. I love it.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Well, in Sua. Thank you, Shelly. Oh, Shelly, thank you so much. No more came in right behind that
Starting point is 00:34:42 before we get started. Love it. Thank you for the 199. Super Snicker. Truly do appreciate that. You guys are the best. You guys are the best. France.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Now, you know, we've talked a lot about Gaipone in the past about the work that France has done with the UFO thing. But this is new. French parliament is going to host their first ever UFO symposium. So on June 20, everything's in June. This is crazy. Like June is the month of disclosure. Disclosure tornado. Also known as June. I know.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Also known as June. So on June 29th, the French National Assembly will host its first ever symposium on UAP, bringing the topic into an official government setting. Organized by members of Parliament are not St. Martin and Pierre Heinrich, the public event titled Research on UAP phenomena. Excuse me. Let me try this again. Research on unidentified aerospace phenomena beyond the fantasies aims to examine the current state of scientific knowledge surrounding UAP while encouraging a rational evidence-based discussion rather than speculation. Gosh, there's a thought, right? Yeah, right. There's a thought.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Go figure. America needs to listen. I know. You know, we're used to setting the example with you AP. I think it's time we're not listening. Right, right. You're so right. What a good point.
Starting point is 00:36:15 What a good point. The supposing will be held in the Victor Hugo room. I love that. I'm a huge Victor Hugo. Are you? I actually got to see his tomb when I was in Paris. I've been there as well. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:28 You've been there? Yeah. Dumas is buried there too. Right. Yeah, crazy stuff. Kahn of Monte Cristo is like, oh, don't even get me started. One of my favorites. One of my favorites. The event will feature investigators from France's official UFO study agency, Guy Pond, representatives from the Ministry of the Armed Forces, researchers, sociologists, journalists, and members of the Sigma II Commission of the French Aeronautical and Aastronon. Notical association. Good Lord, right? Organizers say the goal is to demonstrate that these reports deserve serious examination and can be investigated through established scientific and institutional methods. As it should be.
Starting point is 00:37:13 This is awesome. Exactly what Arrow ought to be doing, and it's not. Oh, boy. Don't get me started on Arrow. I know. I shared an email with you privately earlier. So I'll have some updates on. something with arrow soon, guys.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I hope I will be able to share. He's working the puzzle, people. He's working the puzzle. And working the arrow puzzle, that's for sure. And it's, uh, no small feet. It's backwards. I can't see the picture and there's pieces missing as you do. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:37:43 We got blindfolds on as well. Exactly. It's like that puzzle you find it like your rental on vacation. Yeah, it's missing more pieces and yeah. You don't know where this edge is, right? Someone spilled something sticky on it. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Okay, so this is really cool, but let's move to something that's not so cool. And I cannot believe the headline. I'm about to read, Suzanne, but I'm going to have to read it. Yep. Archbishop removes DC priest as exorcist for saying UFOs are demons. That's the most fascinating statement. That one sentence is fascinating. Think about how far we've come.
Starting point is 00:38:34 How do you say this word? Monsieur. Monsieur. Moncier? Oh, Monseigneur. You're at Monceigneur. Yeah, Muncee. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yeah. I should know that. I'm a Catholic. Yeah. Montseigneur, Stephen Rossetti, a long-time Catholic priest with the Syracuse Catholic diocese. That bears repeating? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Syracuse Catholic diocese. Guys, that's my hometown. I have probably met this priest sometime in my past. I was a altar boy. I went to Catholic school for most of my adolescence. Gosh, there was one point where I even thought about going into the seminary. That's a story for another day. But yeah, I probably crossed religious paths with this man.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I bet you did. But Stephen Rossetti, again, he is a priest, a psychologist, but even stranger. He is an exorcist for the Archdiocese of Washington. He was recently removed from his role by Archbishop Cardinal Robert McElroy after making public comments suggesting that many UFO sightings are likely demonic in nature. Rosetti, who leads the St. Michael's Center for Spiritual Renewal and has served the Archdiocese in various capacities for decades, made the remarks during a YouTube interview discussing the relationship between aliens, demons, and spiritual warfare. Now, I have the interview or video has since been removed from YouTube, but I was able to get it. I got it. I was one of those people was like, this is going to.
Starting point is 00:40:22 somewhere. This is sticking. Yeah. And I was right. The dude literally got fired from being an exorcist for the archdiocese for making these UFO comments. So I have a section of the video that I think I'd like to play right now. Is that cool?
Starting point is 00:40:37 I think we should play it. Yep. All right. Let's play this. And then we'll finish out with the aftermath of what happened after he got fired and why he possibly got fired. So let's go ahead and watch my boy from Sarah. Catholic diocese, Stephen Rossetti, talking about UFOs, aliens, and demons.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Here we go. We go with you for a moment about something which is very much in the news today and on people's minds. That's the whole thing about UFOs and life on other planets. Could there be? Sure, there could be. We don't know. The church has said there's nothing incompatible with the faith about believing that there's life on other planets. So, sure, you could believe that and be a good Catholic.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I personally don't think there is. My mother did, my sainted mother, God bless her. She was convinced there were UFOs and aliens and other planets. Fine, whatever. But there's a danger here and I want to raise that as an exorcist. I wanted to raise that danger. And that is that demons like to hide. They don't want us to know their around. They don't want us to know what they're doing because they're more effective when we don't realize it. And they can kind of get into your head, you know, and manipulate things in the world to influence us to do evil. The scriptures are very clear. Here's what it says. For our struggle is not with flesh and blood, but with the principalities, powers, and rulers of this present darkness with evil spirits. So put on the armor of God that you may be able to resist on the evil day. So the fight we have in this world, this spiritual battle is with the evil one.
Starting point is 00:42:16 And Jesus resisted, of course, Satan in the temptation of the desert. and we too are tempted as well. Demons indeed can break into the physical world and at times that can be seen. We actually have some photos of such things and that we have documented that. Sometimes people will see shadow men. Many people who are possessed will see indistinct dark shadows,
Starting point is 00:42:41 possessed houses, globes of light, all sorts of things, and more direct manifestations, evil hands. We've seen that. And actually images of, beast-like creatures. So at times, demons will be manifest in this world. I had an incident not too long ago where someone who had a particular gift, and we've documented that gift, and she was shown a picture of a UFO. She said, it's a demon. There's no question in my mind, personally.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Again, this is not day-fide, but it's my personal belief that probably many, if not most of these UFO sightings are, in fact, demons. And they can do things that we can't do such thus the speed and all sorts of things that human beings can't do. The reason why this is important is because they will try to manipulate us again, as I said, behind the scenes. But in the end, we trust in God. Just follow the rules. As I tell people, stay in the boat, follow the rules. So they're there, they'll keep you safe.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It's not, church is not trying to control you, but try to keep you safe from the evil one. But trust in Jesus. We have a great joy in the Lord and our eyes. are fixed in heaven, so don't worry about the UFO stuff and all the friendly ghosts and aliens. By the way, one exorcist told me he thought that this person was possessed by aliens. I'm going, what? That's nonsense. Aliens, if there are aliens, don't possess people. That's nonsense. Again, it's demons trying to hide and trying to manipulate and disguise themselves. So, don't be fooled. Focus your eyes on Jesus. Trust in him. You'll bring us safely home.
Starting point is 00:44:18 somebody who just stepped into the show at the start of this segment's wondering what in the world are they talking about something that they've been converted on somewhere in the skies done that's you know my goal with someone in the skies for the past 10 years has been to start a religion so um there you can come to the church of sits i love it I love it So, you know, he clearly stepped on the wrong side of the Vatican as a result of these comments, which I find fascinating. Then we were not going to go down a demon route with whatever it is that the Vatican knows about the stuff. So interesting, interesting development. For sure.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Well, there are further developments on the story. You ready? I'm ready. So the archdiocese, sorry, the archbishop McElroy stated that Rosetti's comments, quote, gravely undermined the Catholic Church's teachings regarding demons, exorcism, and the devil, prompting the archdiocese to sever its ties with Rosetti's ministry. Following his removal, Rosetti expressed sadness over the decision, but affirmed his commitment to church authority and apologizing. for any statements that may have departed from the official Catholic teaching. This article that I found also said similar views have been expressed by public figures such as Vice President J.D. Vance and Anna Paulina Luna.
Starting point is 00:46:00 The incident also reflects the growing intersection between modern UFO discussions, charismatic Christian beliefs, and traditional religious teachings about spiritual warfare and the supernatural. So, I mean, look, I was offended on many levels. One, as a UFO person and a UFO witness, two, as a current paranormal investigator who was, you know, going all over the place and trying to communicate with supernatural entities, whatever they may be. And three, as a Catholic, this guy was saying, run the ghost, aliens, whatever. Like, no, no, it's all demonic. Like, oh my God, Suzanne. I get it.
Starting point is 00:46:50 If I were in a confessional booth and that guy was on the other side of it, I'd put my fist through that thing and punch this guy right in the Catholic. Let me tell you a little story about what happened to me when I was, I believe, 13 and a half years old. I went to church every Sunday. I was an altar boy at Mass and for funerals and weddings and all that stuff. I was a devout Catholic. And I went to confession once every like two weeks. And I went to confession.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And on the other side was Father Fred Minara, our priest at the time. And out of nowhere, I just happened to say to him, Father, is it okay for me to believe in aliens and to research UFOs? I'm 13 and a half at this point. I'm already obsessively reading the books and stuff. I had my sighting one year prior. This stuff was on my mind every second of every day. And then as a Catholic, I'm like, is this okay to believe in something outside of, you know, God made man?
Starting point is 00:47:59 And here on Earth, he created the heavens and the earth. Like, there's aliens. Am I sinning? Is this bad? And he was like, first of all, he took the longest pause I've ever heard during a confession. I bet he did. Not the question he got on the average day. Right. I'm sure he got like, I cheated on my wife. I murdered somebody. I come in. I'm like, I believe in aliens. I'm like going to hell.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Yeah. And he said, it's completely fine that you believe in aliens. In fact, it only makes the power of God even stronger to know he created other worlds, other beings and all that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So for then this priest to come out and be like, no, that's all evil. That's all. If it is, it's just demons masking it as UFOs. And like, boom through that partition. I'm telling you. Well, aren't you glad? I'm so glad for you that you got the priest with that response that you got. Because imagine for a little somebody who got what Monsignor Rosetti just said.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Yeah. Shut the curiosity down. Shut the open thinking down. You know, let's do the thing that humans are really good at. It's really dumb, which is when we don't understand a thing, well, it's evil. It's evil. You know, we don't get it. Okay, so it's bad, you know.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I'm just so grateful you didn't get that as a young, as a teenager because, gosh, what a life change that would happen as a result of that. And just what a narrow-minded, conservative way of looking at these things. And I don't mean conservative in a political sense. I just mean like, that's one, close-minded way. to go down. I mean, I'm currently reading this book called Final Events. It's by Nick Redfern. And it's all about when within the government, they were thinking that all UFO and alien related stuff was demonic. The Collins
Starting point is 00:49:57 elite. It's like that whole mythology behind that. Yeah. That's what's going on here with J.D. Vance and Anna, Paulina, Luna. All these people within the government are saying that this stuff could be demonic or on the flip side, angelic. You've got people like the Bledso saying, you know, it's all angels and good stuff. But if you're not seeing the orbs we're seeing, which are angels, then you're full of shame. You're not a good religious person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Yeah. Yeah. The judgment around that. And especially coming from the judge not less juby judge crowd, that's always a shocker to me, you know? Right. I don't get how that work. But it does. That's how it works.
Starting point is 00:50:42 But don't you find it fascinating that he literally lost his job? Yeah, that sucks. I'm not going to lie. He had a nerve higher up somewhere. Especially since he was like the priest who did exorcisms. Right. Like they're already out on that lammond, but this concept was just no. When I first, when I heard about this guy, I'm like, whoa, he does exorcisms for the Catholic Church.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Like that's interesting. I want to hear more about that. Exactly. But then when he started getting, you know, getting in our lane and saying that UFO stuff is fooie, like it's all demons. I'm just like, hey, slow down there, buddy. Slow your roll. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:26 How do you get from so open-minded around the issue of the demons and the paranormal? And then on this, you can't make that intellectual leap. And he clearly could not or did not. But it takes a lot. Maybe it's a learning moment for him. I don't know. I hope so. Yeah, I hope you're right.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Because it takes a lot for someone to say that non-human intelligence could possibly exist and have visited the planet. And then to believe that some supernatural dude walked on water and turned water into wine and raised from the mother ethic debt. You can go there, but you can't be open-minded over on this side, which is frankly a more concerned. conservative topic. Yeah. It's not the frack up, dude. That's all I'm going to say. Well, I think you're going to need to reach out to your priest and see if he'll talk
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Starting point is 00:54:42 Let's move to our second to last story of the night, Suzanne. We're coming up on the hour. And this brings us to back to contact in the desert where Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp did a live podcast recording of their podcast weaponized. And on stage, they had Dylan Borland, they had Senior Chief Alex Wiggins and Matthew Brown, three notable UAP whistleblowers who have either testified before Congress or have come forward a la Matthew Brown with what is it what was it called constellation?
Starting point is 00:55:19 Immaculate Constellation. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And things got pretty emotional. They did. Were you able to watch this full? Yes, I watched every minute of it.
Starting point is 00:55:32 And I would recommend that everyone else do as well. it is at times heartbreaking. I mean, I was like holding back tears, especially with Mr. Borland. This has just been such a thing, and it is still raw and real to him. Absolutely. I think it is for all of them in many ways, but Dylan Borland obviously is taking the grunt of this in terms of like how it's affecting him personally. I mean, I shouldn't speak out of turn. I don't know that.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Matthew Brown's had some pretty bad stuff. happen which we'll hear in this clip in just a minute um so that's kind of what i want to do now this clip is all them have though you know all of them they all had retribution and just like any other human these humans are processing it quite differently it seems so two of them were quite stoic and and dylan struggled he just struggled and you'll see in this clip he is fidgety he's angry he's like yeah I feel for the guy. But basically this clip I want to show is Corbell commenting on the consequences of being a UAP whistleblower coming forward. And then he kind of goes through what happened to each of these guys.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Now, Alex Wiggins, we haven't really heard any aftermath of his congressional testimony and what happened to him. But we will hear a little bit about that in this clip. But I do highly suggest people watch the full episode. but this is kind of a clip that I cut together of the most emotional moments, I guess. And it seems to have taken a toll on Corbell as well. So I want to get your thoughts on that. It does. After we both watched Sleeping Dog, too.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Should we just go ahead and watch the clip? Yeah, let's show it. Everybody get the Kleenex ready. Get the Kleenex, if you got them. All right, give me one sec. Okay. Find this for you guys. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Without getting personal because our families get docs, our wives get threatened, our moms get threatened, we lose jobs, we have people follow us, badge contact, not just like someone I think is following us, right? Badge contact, if you know what that means they show you the badge from each federal agency and they just put pressure on you, I don't know at midnight at a charging station for me, OSI. So I film them, film and record everybody. Here's what happened to them. Matt Brown, he's had to move because he has no job, couldn't afford the place he lived in.
Starting point is 00:57:58 His home was broken into. They didn't steal anything while they were sleeping in there. him and his wife were in the house. They laid out IDs across the table. You said I could talk a little bit about it just to show they took photos of him. They smashed his grandfather's ashes on the ground. Yeah, break in.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Dylan Borland. There's a police report. He had his brake lines cut. We don't know who did it. Who would want to hurt Dylan? Don't know. Happened to be on a very unique day of his life, though. A very auspicious day.
Starting point is 00:58:22 We can never prove it. Maybe it's so he goes around saying that. So you all think he's crazy. But he did wreck the truck. And no, he wasn't drunk. So, senior chief was actually one of the, and I'm not even scratching the surface with what happened to my friends. When they get threatened by ODNI, the head of all intelligence agencies, where I said to them,
Starting point is 00:58:42 they are here to protect you, that's what they say, wink, wink, don't trust them. I got you, I'm documenting everything. They tried to get Dylan straight up on treason by fabricating evidence against them, and the only reason it didn't work is because I caught those f***, and I gave it to my lawyer, and it's all recorded. Matt, they tried to get on counter-espionage on American assets or some fancy shit like that. and they said he made it up. I go, really? Here's some proof he didn't. Oh, they found out what I actually have with George.
Starting point is 00:59:09 So here's the deal. Senior Chief Wiggins. It was more insidious because it was subtle because there's covert and there's overt manipulation. Covert shit, just to annoy you, push you over the edge. Somebody docks me real hard last night. My phone won't stop ringing every 10 seconds a new call. Thanks, whoever did that.
Starting point is 00:59:25 It doesn't affect me. I've got a family phone in my pocket, bitch, and you'll never get that number. senior chief Wiggins was insidious because just like Matt and Dylan how they were told you have absolute protection bro, you can come and you can say anything
Starting point is 00:59:38 we're in a skiff I am completely clear it all hunt this down we're going to get to the bottom of the UFO thing they tried then to falsify charges and first what they tried is to make me and George turn around and denounce every whistleblower anything everybody has ever said they're all f***in liars from Louelizondo
Starting point is 00:59:56 don't take my words and twist them in a video they lied to me that Everybody was liars and I caught them in the lies. Louelizondo, Jay Stratton, Eric Davis, sweetest guy in the world. Matt Brown, Dylan Borland, Senior Chief. They all tried to turn me and Georgia, we tell to you. These guys, they all lied to us. David Grush, that's what they're trying to make us do to do their dirty work.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Last thing was Senior Chief. Most insidious. Arrow is supposed to investigate under congressional mandate. They're not supposed to be running a human intelligence operation to entrap people who are active Navy and threaten them that if they don't go do a job, deposition I don't know the right word he already said everything with his hand up he politely declined and then they threatened him his higher command they went to his
Starting point is 01:00:36 higher command that we shut that down in one hour one hour shut down so they're telling you as it is you wanted me to say what they've been through I can never describe it man what and this is gonna stop with them and here's how OD and I and by the way infiltrated by CIA come around and find out there's more of us than there are you so go ahead around and find out because George and I, we do go to the desert and dig shit up. We do. And we're not bluffing.
Starting point is 01:01:08 And in fact, they know that my lawyer and George's lawyer has everything that protects these guys as well, including the fabrication of evidence against these two. Fuck around and find out. And that's not a bluff. Give me one second. We need to have a process that is good for national security, where people like Dylan and Matt and senior chief can come forward. and tell what they know.
Starting point is 01:01:38 It doesn't have to be public, but they need to be able to tell what they know. There are a lot of people that you do not know the names and faces of. And I'm hesitant to bring them forward because of what's happened to them. And that's gotta stop. I don't have much more to say right now.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Wow. I know. And while that was very emotional, it didn't touch what was going on with Dylan Borland. And I also loved watching George Knapp sit stoically listening, but yet fidgeting. He's feeling it too. He just displays it differently. They've been through so much, and they are not safe.
Starting point is 01:02:23 They are not safe. I, you know, we both watched Sleeping Dog, and we came away a little frustrated with the film. It was very vague and kind of all over the place, and very personal. It was about Jeremy. Corbell and that's fine. Like it's kind of putting in a microscope on this one UFO investigator and all that. But we never got like a true sense of like the urgency, the, I guess the consequence of the information that someone like Corbell might bring forward when it comes to people like Dylan Borland, whose voice we heard in Sleeping Dog as well. So what was it about Dylan Borland in this interview that really struck you as like, wow, the CIA and ODNI are really messing with these guys. They're not investigating what they're bringing forward.
Starting point is 01:03:20 They're literally running like a sigh up on these guys. The call is coming from inside the house. The call is coming from inside the house. And so when they stepped into what they thought was safe process, it turned out to be a fishing net. And now they're in the net. And then their lives have been basically ruined. Dylan Borland can't get a job. His wife has a minimal job.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Dylan Borland even tried to get menial jobs like check out at Home Depot. No go. No go. Right. I remember seeing that part because they looked at his resume and it said like National Security Agency. Right. And they're like, oh. What are you doing here?
Starting point is 01:03:59 Yeah. And then what do you say about that? You know, how do you explain? well, I'm a UFO whistleblower. Well, you know, it's just a mess. Yeah. We have to pass the UAPDA. We have to pass it.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Yeah, exactly. We don't need arcs to triumph. We don't need ballrooms. We need to pass the UAPDA. I saw some chatter online today about Eric Berlinson bringing forth the whole amnesty thing. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:32 What are your thoughts? on this UAP whistleblower amnesty approach. This is the bad thing about having a lawyer for a co-host because what I have are questions. Okay. My questions are, so how would this actually work? In order for this to be effective, it would have to be permanent amnesty. You can't be free to say something in a 60-day period. And then after that 60-day period, boom, you're being prosecuted for treason.
Starting point is 01:05:00 So I think there are lots of questions about how that would actually work. And then is it going to be by presidential order? What is the process for this? And is the same Congress who cannot get its act together on the UAPDA, and yet they put on this dog and pony show constantly about wanting the answers to these questions? If it's not an executive order, is that the group that's going to do this 60-day amnesty? and somehow on that they're going to be effective and get it done,
Starting point is 01:05:33 I just don't see it. I don't see it. But it's a wonderful idea. But the whole phrase 60 day amnesty, maybe he's talking about a time frame where a whistleblower, if they come within and tell their story within 60 days and they get permanent amnesty, if that's what he's talking about, great. But they're not sharing the details of what they mean.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Right. Exactly. Yeah. No one is and that's kind of the problem and like you know Corbell's really going after OD and I and the CIA because he believes that they are full on like right in a a a sigh up of sorts and trying to discredit these guys and ruin their lives and trying to teach them a lesson. I mean again we that whole thing came out from what was a Wall Street Journal? the two articles about like all this UFO crap was planted and was a prank and all this stuff by the Air Force. Yeah. That came out right before I believe it was the UAPDA from that year or something like that.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Yeah. And it was kind of like slings and arrows being shot to be like, hey, hey, we know that this thing is about to possibly pass and we don't want it to. Like we're going to put all this stuff out there. And, you know, Alex Wiggins is saying that he went to Arrow, I believe it was. And with what he reported, his UAP encounters and whatnot. And they wanted more information and wanted him to come back. And he's like, no, I'm done, I'm good. I have no protections.
Starting point is 01:07:13 More to say. Yeah. Yeah. And they were like, oh, so you're not going to come back in and give us the information we want. Okay, we're going to. we might, you know, take a year or two off your active duty or something like, you know, these random threats. I'm being hypothetical.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Right, right. But, you know, the threats to Dylan Borland were not hypothetical. They were. We can charge you with treason. And the statute of limitations, which everyone knows is a period of time in which a lawsuit can be brought to right or wrong. The statute of limitations on treason is life. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:52 It's crazy. You might get a reprieve. There is no end. You're under that gun until you are under the ground, you know. It's interesting. I'm really interested to see where this all goes with this battle that George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell seemed to have with the CIA and OBI. They're teed up. Those boys are teed up.
Starting point is 01:08:15 They got stuff buried in the desert. Yeah, and he's, you know, George Knapp. He's out there just slinging. He doesn't care. Bring it on. Exactly. I love it. Keep doing your thing weaponized.
Starting point is 01:08:29 We're all watching even when we say we're not. Exactly. We're all watching. We're going to watch it. F around and find out. Yeah. I also admire Dylan and these three guys, all three of these guys, efforts to try to help other whistleblowers. And I wish them well in that.
Starting point is 01:08:47 I'm nervous about how that can actually function. I think that to be safe in the pool in which they're swimming, they need some legal counsel, and maybe they have it. I don't know. I just don't know who that is because as nice a job as Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp can do on their podcast and in getting the witnesses to talk to them and whatnot. They're not lawyers, and they're not going to keep someone safe from a treason. allegation or charge. So I just think, gosh, I hope they do well, but I'm worried. Such a good point. You know, even in my mic here, even in Jeremy's documentary, that person told him, your journalistic, your journalist protections don't mean. And I could see that coming in. Like, it's one thing for Jeremy and George should be like, we'll protect you guys through our journalism and what were your report.
Starting point is 01:09:51 that that's not it doesn't work like that it's not enough like Jeremy said he has a lawyer if you have a lawyer on like retainer or whatever help these guys out these guys with a lawyer maybe he is like I don't know nobody knows what's happening behind the scenes with these whistleblowers that's right and it's not just but and it's not just legal threats one of the things that happened to Dylan Borland was they snuck into his home and they pulled out all the equipment and various things and laid them out to be seen so that Dylan and his wife would know that they had been there and they took Dylan's father's ashes out of the apartment and smashed them, including the urn they were. And so they're not playing. They're not playing. That's a loss that cannot be recouped
Starting point is 01:10:42 and literally in their home in the night, you know. Crazy stuff. Crazy stuff. Scary stuff. Scary stuff. Scary stuff. I wish them all the best and whatever they all decide to do moving forward. Okay. Now, we move to our last story of the night. Let's roll. On an optimistic note, we have Disclosure Day opening in the U.S. on June 12th next week. And here in the UK on June 10th. So I'll be seeing it on Wednesday. I was so freaking. I'm so jealous.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Just rub it in. He's just rubbing it in, folks. I know. I just keep rubbing that in. baby, keep rubbing it in. I got the poster on the wall here for Disclosure Day. I'm clearly excited. Do I think this is going to involve any sort of actual disclosure? No. Am I going to see a incredible movie
Starting point is 01:11:35 by an incredible filmmaker about disclosure? Yes, and that's the only way I'm going in looking at this thing. Exactly. Stay in the fiction realm and then take away. You know, fiction does have its role in truth ultimately. So, you know, walk the walk with him. Enjoy it. And you know us people will be reading between the lines of every single thing in this freaking movie. And that's what I'm excited about.
Starting point is 01:12:00 And I think we'll break it down. We'll break it down. I think we're going to hear and recognize pieces of specific stories. I'm sure he has excellent experts who have helped him with real life experiences. So I love to watch for those in these kinds of movies. What have they been educated about that they chose to actually include in the film? Exactly. Well, I thought it'd be cool since you mentioned like what do they know, what have they researched. Some of the actors in the film actually comment on that in some interviews.
Starting point is 01:12:34 So what I did is I put a couple interviews together here that I thought we could watch briefly from Steven Spielberg himself, talking about kind of the inspiration for the movie Disclosure Day, his research. and then actors Coleman Domingo, Emily Blunt, and Josh O'Connor, all reflecting on the roles they play in the movie and kind of the importance of UFO witnesses, experiencers. This might be my favorite clip we play today. I'm so excited. Should we just put it on?
Starting point is 01:13:07 Yeah, let's go for it. All right, let's watch this to start to wrap things up tonight. Guys, here is Steven Spielberg and the cast of Disclosure Day talking about the movie. be coming out next week. Here we go. 17, when the New York Times come out with the story where they basically, a whistleblower had given them the flare footage of the tic-tacks and that were moving anti-ballistically through the air against 200 and 120-mile-hour headwinds and doing things that were impossible for any conventional aircraft to fly. And that's where, you know, that's where
Starting point is 01:13:42 for me, all the reports and all the UFO flaps in the 50s. in the 60s, in the 70s, in the 80s, from Roswell in 1947 to the alleged abduction of Betty and Barney Hill in the 1950s and to the Pascagoula incident and to the aerial school in Zimbabwe that John Mack from Yale did extensive interviews and research about, and all the documentaries that have been made, and suddenly Congress is talking about it, and senators are asking questions, and, you know, there are, the subcommittees are being convened, and And in 2003, it was the House Intelligence Committee, had hearings where they interviewed Grush, Fravor, and Graves, who were basically blowing the whistle on things they knew that they
Starting point is 01:14:36 thought it was time to speak under oath to both Congress and the American people. And that really turned everything on its head. Listen, and in a lot of research, we started, you know, Stephen was sharing a lot of documentary things with me, interviews, people who have been really out there, whether they, you know, had experiences or whether they've been working with people who've had experiences. So for me, it's downloading a lot of information to make some assessments for myself. What do I believe as well? Were people lying or are they telling the truth? Because there are many, many different ways to unpack this information. And when you look at, you know, there's many, many observations that's been done on groups of people, whole towns that have been.
Starting point is 01:15:14 had visitations in many ways and you know it's been debunked in many ways sometimes by authorities but I feel like it's that it's really about grappling with the truth and really just to take everyone's experiences being sincere and not you know trying to manipulate it in some way shape or form because I think people trying to control whether or not we have had these experiences or not for any of you did change your opinion about what might be out there completely yeah I think my well I felt my opinion have been changed even in prepping this movie that I had never gone down the rabbit hole of looking at every congressional
Starting point is 01:15:48 hearing that's taken place, every documentary, docu-series, everyone who has had a genuine experience. So I became invested in them in the people who'd had these experiences. I really feel a sense of like a hunger for this information now. Yeah. Because I think there aren't many advancements or bits of knowledge that we can receive that will completely unite us than something like this. they've been converted. What a good point.
Starting point is 01:16:18 I love that. I love like that this, it's an acting role for these guys and it's an opportunity of a lifetime to work with Stephen Spielberg. But at the same time, like, they did the homework. Spielberg even mentioned Pascagoula, that abduction. That's deep research. Let me tell you. He did a good job with that. And then for Emily Blunt to say, like, these experiencers deserve to like have to have a platform,
Starting point is 01:16:45 to tell their stories, the impact this has on their lives. And for Coleman Domingo to say, you know, whole towns have had mass UFO sightings and that's the thing we looked at. Narratives, because of the ambiguity of these phenomena, different narratives arise through that. So we have to like look at that aspect of it. And his character will be doing that. Josh O'Connor plays a big role in the movie.
Starting point is 01:17:06 And he's saying, like, what topic can unite everyone on the planet this disclosure day? It is. It is. And I almost feel a little bit of validation. You and I both came to this topic as experiencers and have always taken such care around other experiencers. And it's so important to both of us. And you in particular, with all the witness account volumes, and you got one million of those now, roughly. But this is what touched them as well, is that this is tangible human in our action and experience, and it deserves a voice, and it deserves respect. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:17:52 And I'm just so happy that that was a part of, like, going into it because it makes me trust that they handled it with care in the movie. It'll be in a science fictional, or as Spielberg would say, science factual sort of lens. And I really appreciate that. I really, really do. Me too, me too. I could gush about it all day long.
Starting point is 01:18:18 And we put it a little bit because, you know, this topic doesn't get this kind of treatment very often. Are there documentaries? There are. Are they important? They are. But something that most of the planet might go see because it's entertainment, that's a real opportunity. Right. And we said earlier, like, I don't care how good of a book Jay Stratton has coming out or how much, how mind-blowing something like,
Starting point is 01:18:44 Elizondo's book was or age of disclosure documentary, none of those things, they pale and will pale in comparison to Stephen Spielberg. I mean, and that's no fault of their owner. I hope none of them take offense to that.
Starting point is 01:19:00 They are not Stephen Spielberg. They are not this man who has changed the history of filmmaking forever. And the fact that he's returning to this topic again in such a serious manner, it just really gives me hope i'm so excited absolutely absolutely i'm just so excited i have to wait until saturday to go but i would be there's first showing at my local theater at three in the afternoon
Starting point is 01:19:26 i love it i got my tickets i'm going to one of those um like it's called every man theater here in in the uk which is it's super fancy you get that you get like your own little sofa um someone comes in to introduce the movie no not like spielberg but like the employees there come in and tell you, you know, this is the movie you're watching and this, that, this, that'll be awesome. Me, on the other hand, I'm going to be in a regular theater being that one mother in the room like, shh, shh, everybody be quiet. I do wonder, like, how full my theater will be.
Starting point is 01:20:06 It's a small, intimate theater, but when I booked my tickets, it was me and like two other people. But I have a feeling that's going to change. pretty cool. Yeah, I think so too. And especially once it comes out and people start talking about it now having seen it instead of speculating about it. I think it's going to be big. The ripple effect this movie will have on the topic and the UFO community is going to be immense. And I'm excited for that, obviously. Like, whenever something like this happens, like, we're all like, yay, UFOs are back in the mainstream. Well, they have been for a while now. But this is going to just shoot it up and. to the stress. Right up there. I know my neighbors and my husband will be so thrilled because I'm going with my notepad
Starting point is 01:20:49 and pin. Of course you are. Just that's why not. I love it. I'm just going to go watch. I'm going to come back and be like, oh, my God, the pacing of that scene was just perfect. The cutting right then, the transition, like, that was, and then you're going to come with, like, 20 pages on the first 10 minutes of the film.
Starting point is 01:21:13 And I'm going to like, thank you. you. Someone did that. Thank you. Oh, yes. It may be one of those I have to go to twice. We'll see. Yeah, I love it. I love it. Well, that's it. That's it for tonight in terms of news and whatnot. But before we go, Suzanne. That little poll somewhere, don't we? We got the poll. Let's go to that right now before I forget, because I did forget as per usual. Am I frozen? I'm on a different page. Oh, gosh. No, you're not frozen. Oh, sweet. We fixed that problem. Good, good, good.
Starting point is 01:21:48 The poll. I put, oh, yeah, could live streams go back to Sundays instead of Fridays? Out of 46 votes, 30% of you said yes, 20% said no. 41% said, doesn't matter to me. And 9% said, who are you? I'm looking for Andy. Why that? We have some questions in there. Who's Andy? Yeah, I met Andy of that UFO podcast. I guess that wasn't as. implied as I thought. Just a fun little insight baseball joke for us UFO podcasters.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Love Andy, hoping to get him back on the show soon. But yeah. But I saw people theorizing, which Andy is he talking about? That was the one I was talking about. So yeah, it looks like the majority said, doesn't matter. And yes. So we're going to give it a little bit more thought. And we'll come back to you guys about possibly moving back to Sundays.
Starting point is 01:22:43 we shall see. We'll be posting there and Twitter. For sure. Yep. Yeah. Follow us on all the socials. Links are in the show notes. But before anyone goes tonight, don't leave guys.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Because in just a couple days on the podcast, I have an episode, Suzanne, that I have been working on for almost three months now. And I finally got it in a place where I was comfortable. And that is Alex. You are correct. This might be my favorite episode. ever. Wow. Yeah, I got a little preview of it and wow, wow, highly recommend. I really appreciate that. And I can tell it was weeks of work, months of work, because gosh, it's wonderful. I really appreciate that. I really put my blood, sweat, and tears into this one. And it is available now early if you want it. It's on Patreon, guys. It's on Apple Premium. It's on YouTube membership. It's on all of those early actions.
Starting point is 01:23:43 all of the ways to get to those that are in the show notes as well. If you want to hear or watch it, it's already up there. I would suggest the Patreon version because YouTube kind of flagged me for some copyright because I use a bunch of video clips in this episode for the visual version, and YouTube murdered me with... This is making me tired. They need to cut it up. But the full way that I intended for the episode to be seen is on,
Starting point is 01:24:13 Patreon. So if you want guys, head on over there, you will get a slightly kind of edited version here on YouTube in the very near future on Monday. But that was just to, you know, it wasn't even like, yo, you can't show those or you can't monetize the video. It was like, you can't show these or the video will be blocked worldwide all of it. So I don't know. I knew they meant business. I don't understand them. And wasn't it, Graham Rundle? They took him down completely. Demonitize him completely. Demonitized him, took his channel down, saying it was an original content,
Starting point is 01:24:50 and he's writing every word of it. 100% of his channel was original content. Yeah, 100%. It made no sense. Unbelievably tragic for Graham. If you guys can help him out in any way, he's looking for other ways to get his show out there, bite-sized UFOs, throw him some bones.
Starting point is 01:25:09 He's got Patreon and all that good stuff. Reach out to him on social media. Exactly. Like, it's so unfair. It is so unfair. And I don't even want to get in that realm. So I followed the YouTube notes and did that. But yes, the Aligash abduction, which is a 1976 UFO abduction case that took place in the Alagash wilderness of Maine.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Crazy story. And cool boy, it goes in some directions you will not expect. And, yeah, check it out early right now, or it will be available on Monday for, everyone worldwide on the main feed as well. And the last thing I want to bring up, Suzanne, is Anomicon is going to be coming to you guys, our free virtual conference on the anomalous. And we decided the date of Anomicon 20206 will be September 12th. Saturday, September 12th.
Starting point is 01:26:03 If you'd like to learn more about Anamicon, go toanomicon.com. And we got some speakers for it already up on the website too. So check out the Anomicon 2020s tab at Anomicon.com. Follow us on socials, all that good stuff. But we are also still looking for speakers. So if anyone can think of anyone who might be interested in speaking virtually,
Starting point is 01:26:27 a pre-recorded presentation that we play during a live stream on September 12th, let us know. Reach out to us, email us, and we'd love to hear your pitches for people. Yeah, look at this new logo, everybody. Thanks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Yeah, little, um, there's new merch too. New merch is on Anamacomicon.com as well for 2026. So you can check that out there. It might still be on sale. I'm not sure. Um, on discount, I mean. Um, so check that out. But thank you, Chaubeau.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Really appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got an incredible, brilliant artist who does our logos. Um, and yeah, you can learn more about them, Polaris Castillo at anomicon.com as well. But yep, seeking speakers. If guys are interested, check out all of that. And once again, if you're over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, leave the Code Words Disclosure Day in your Apple Podcast Review or your Spotify comments.
Starting point is 01:27:23 And we will know you watched or listened to this and we'll shout you out on the next live stream. But we're reaching the hour and 30 mark, Suzanne. So we're going to get out of here and enjoy the rest of our Friday nights. We hope you guys do too. But yeah, you got anything coming up or anything you can share with us and where people can reach you? Well, you could reach me on Facebook. I help behind the scenes with the Facebook page for Somewhere in the Skies. You can also reach me at Suzanne SomewhereSkies at gmail.com. Perfect. And, you know, I got to start announcing this too. I totally forgot. Our substack. We have a substack now for somewhere in the skies. And we have a brand new contributing writer and researcher, Violetta Baguja. So you can check out her work at our substack. Link is in the show notes. as well. She's from Australia and she's writing a ton of Australian UFO stuff over there on our
Starting point is 01:28:16 substack. Be sure to subscribe there. Subscribe to her substack as well. And she also will be a speaker at an Amicomicon, 26. She's been a supporter of someone this guys since day one. And I cannot thank her enough for that. And now getting to work with her has been a pleasure. And she's cranking these articles out, which is awesome. That's great to have someone dedicated to that. For sure, for sure. So yeah, links on the show notes for everything, guys. Check out all that. And if you're watching here on YouTube, be sure to like, subscribe, hit notification, share the show with someone who you think might find it interesting. And we'll let you know when we decide to do the next live stream. Follow us on social media for that. And thank you, Tanya, for subscribing to the
Starting point is 01:29:03 Substack, one of our YouTube members and Patreon subscribers. Appreciate that. And Darren from Osaka will be a speaker of an Amicon. Excellent. Yeah. We got a lot of Anamicon speakers today. Yeah, we do. That's great.
Starting point is 01:29:17 It's great. All right, Suzanne. Let's get out of here. Let's go get ready for Disclosure Day next week. And yeah, yeah, that's going to do it tonight, guys, for summer in the skies live. But I will leave you as always with our mantra. And that is keep your feet on the ground. but never stop searching somewhere in the skies.
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