Somewhere in the Skies - Just Another Tin-Foil Hat | The Cussac UFO/Devil Encounter

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

In August of 1967, a brother and sister tending cows outside the small village of Cussac, in France, encountered something at the threshold between UFOlogy, folklore, and possibly... the devil. Subsc...ribe to Just Another Tin Foil Hat on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JustAnotherTinFoilHat Patreon: www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ PayPal: Sprague51@hotmail.com Website: www.somewhereintheskies.com Store: http://tee.pub/lic/ULZAy7IY12U YouTube Channel: CLICK HERE Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/somewhereskies/videos Order Ryan’s new book: https://a.co/d/4KNQnM4 Order Ryan’s older book: https://amzn.to/3PmydYC Twitter: @SomewhereSkies Read Ryan’s Articles by CLICKING HERE Opening Theme Song, "Ephemeral Reign" by Per Kiilstofte Produced by LIONSGATE Copyright © 2024. Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/somewhere-in-the-skies. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:37 Join Zilia as she walks us through some of the most bizarre UFO cases and incidents of high strangeness. We were going to be discussing a fantastically folkloric UFO contact case, which occurred in France in August of 1967. And before anyone shouts little green men, I will have you know that the case in question was billed in the flying saucer view as Encounter with Devils. Yes, you absolutely heard me right, Devils. We'll get to that in just a second, because before we begin here, I would like to direct all interested parties to the Anomley Archives' online fundraising stream-a-thon event. It's being held to raise money for a new location for the archive, so it is an incredibly worthy cause.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Anyone able to donate, you know, please consider it. The event itself is free and includes tons of amazing speakers live every Saturday through the end of 2020, and they have archives available of all previous speakers, including yours truly. The link is in the description, so definitely check it out. So, back to the UFO and the Devils. August 29th of 1967, two children, Francois, who was 13, and his sister Anne Marie, and their little dog, too, had been tasked with watching some cows grazing in a nearby meadow outside of the small village of Cusack in France.
Starting point is 00:01:54 They passed the time by playing cards until about 10.30 in the morning when the cows up and decided that they wanted to cross over this low stone wall into a neighboring field. So Francois got up to lead them back to where they were supposed to be, and when he did so, he noticed that across the road, behind some hedges, there were these four children whom he didn't recognize. So he climbed on top of some stones to get a better look at these guys. And as he did so, he realized that not only were these some very strange children indeed, but they were accompanied by a large, luminous silver sphere, which was so bright that it was painful to look at.
Starting point is 00:02:29 The sphere in question was about six to seven feet in diameter. And here's something very interesting. Both children claimed that there were no details on the surface of the object. However, Anne-Marie said that she noticed what, for lack of a better word, appeared to be, like, landing gear underneath the object. She claimed that she saw three or four long straight legs, which ended in round shoes. So, however, she said that they vanished when the machine was in flight. She didn't see them retract into the machine or anything like that. They were simply their one minute gone the next.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And this is just one of two points in the story where the children differed on details observed. Now, onto the little beings themselves. There were four of them standing in front of this luminous sphere, and they ranged in heights between three to four feet tall, with the tallest entity holding onto some sort of object, which was described as looking like a mirror. Now, they were this completely shiny black, a texture which Francoise had looked kind of like silk. And the kids couldn't tell if this was the entity itself or some sort of perfectly fitted, seamless suit that they were wearing, which in that case would have been over the face as well. There was no mention of eyes, mouth, or ears. However, Anne-Marie did claim that she noticed a
Starting point is 00:03:42 pointed nose on the fourth entity, and only the fourth entity. And this is the second point in this encounter where the kid's testimony differed. Everything else was perfectly in line. Now, the both children attested the fact that although the heads seemed to be of proportionate size to the bodies, the cranium was pointed. And another weird thing to note is that they claimed that not only were the chins also pointed, but that these things had beards, which were visible on either side of the face and on the chin. While the children didn't notice anything akin to hands on these entities, they said that the arms and legs were exceptionally long and spindly,
Starting point is 00:04:16 and that the feet on the fourth figure were webbed. So just add that on to the long list of very bizarre things about these entities. Now, if that's not weird enough for you, the actions of these little guys just adds to the general strangeness of this encounter. Apparently, one of the entities was bending over, almost looked like it was messing around with the soil, while the fourth mirror-holding entity was waving its non-hands around like it was gesturing to its companions. Then all of a sudden, the first one, furthest to the left of the object, rose up into the air, kind of turned over mid-air, and dove head first into the sphere. The next did the same as did the third.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Then the fourth one rose, dove back to the ground like it was picking something up. François thought that maybe it had dropped its mirror, and then disappeared into the sphere, just like its companions had, only by then the sphere had already risen into the air performing a tight spiral. And as it did so, there was a soft yet piercing, whistling-type noise, combined with the sound of rushing wind, although the air was still. So after the sphere took off, it made several more circles, while still climbing and growing brighter by the moment. At this point in time, there was a smell of sulfur in the area.
Starting point is 00:05:28 their cows and the neighboring cows gathered close together and started lowing, and the little dog started barking at the object. The sound ceased and the sphere sped off to the northwest, though Francois and Anne-Marie did not stick around to watch it disappear or fade into the distance or ride off into the sunset. Or I guess, well, it wouldn't be the sunset at that time, but you get what I mean. They got the heck out of there, driving the cows home about a half hour earlier than usual. So, technically, though, they still did indeed watch this UFO until the cows came home. Now, this is quite a bit already, but wait, there is indeed more. Police were actually called to the scene. The kids involved in this incident were the children of the then-Mayor of Cusack.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And so this incident was taken very seriously, even at a local level. They arrived at the scene some hours later around 4 o'clock on that same day, and the smell of sulfur was still present. as was this patch of yellow grass, which would normalize by the next day. It was later uncovered that a nearby resident, who in some reports is mentioned as being an off-duty police officer, had been in his barn shifting hay at the time of the incident, and had also heard this strange whistling-type noise. Now, those who investigated this case found the children to be very sincere witnesses. Apparently, their parents said that they came home in tears,
Starting point is 00:06:49 and that for two nights thereafter, Anne-Marie couldn't sleep. Francois couldn't sleep for one night after the incident, though when he came home, for about 15 minutes, he had watery eyes. And then every morning, for some time thereafter, too, he would wake up with these watery eyes for again about 15 minutes. Which, again, this is a feature common in UFO sightings and some cryptid sightings. It was theorized by investigators at the time that this was due to the fact that he had to wear glasses, and that somehow the intense luminosity of the object was compounded by the lenses. They also theorize that this is exactly why he couldn't see some of the finer details that his sister mentioned, such as the landing gear or the pointed nose on the fourth entity. Now again, this is just simply a fantastic case with several very intriguing points.
Starting point is 00:07:34 The first thing that stands out is the smell of sulfur. Now, of course, this has been pointed out by many researchers such as John Keel and firmly cemented by Joshua Cutchin in his fantastic book, the brimstone deceit, that sulfur is heavily associated with every different type of paranormal phenomenon, not simply relegated to the fire and brimstone of demonic fame. It's interesting to note though that in this case, there was the presence of sulfur, and then these beings were branded as devils. It makes you wonder, kind of, if it hadn't been there, would they simply have been called imps or even just simply UFO occupants or aliens? But no, this was really branded as the UFO encounter with devils. So again, you almost wonder if the sulfur kind of had something to do
Starting point is 00:08:16 with that branding. But interesting, too, are the discrepancies between the accounts, of Anne-Marie and Francois. Now the differences simply are the pointed nose on the fourth entity and the magical vanishing landing gear. Now these, again, were both noticed by Anne-Marie not observed by Francois. And I guess my question here is, yeah, sure, maybe his eyesight did play into this, but then how is it that he noticed some of the other finer details, such as, you know, the webbed feet of the fourth entity or the beards on the entity's chins. Now, again, many paranormal occurrences with shared witnesses will have these slight discrepancies between accounts, and I don't think at all that this means that we should
Starting point is 00:08:55 discount those sightings. I think that, in my opinion, this is evidence that these are events that are not totally objective, though, again, in many cases, it could simply be observational differences. And two, when I say that events aren't totally objective, I don't mean to say that it's some sort of completely subjective event either. I think that it exists kind of at this weird threshold point because even, you know, this case is a perfect example. You have this fantastic trace evidence of the yellow grass and the smell of sulfur after the sighting, the outside observer who heard the strange whistling noise, and of course the reactions of the animals at the scene. This all points to something that does happen objectively.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Just in mind with these discrepancies, which again are very common, not just in this case, but other cases as well with the paranormal. You have to wonder if it does almost occur partially in, you know, the subjective subconscious of the observer and partially in objective reality. So one other thing about the landing gear, it was their one moment, gone next. You know, and so many of these paranormal occurrences, they do almost have like these, like, kind of faulty transitions.
Starting point is 00:10:02 They lack the steady climb from point A to point B and so on. So, again, I think that this is evidence that they aren't occurring totally objectively, you know, in our reality where things tend to lead seamlessly into the other, You know, these things just kind of have these missing gaps, missing time almost. So that is very interesting. Now, the performance of the entities is definitely interesting, too. My knee-dirk reaction whenever I hear of these contact encounters is, what are they trying to prove?
Starting point is 00:10:29 Most of the time, it almost feels like staged for the witness. And this is no exception. The messing around of the soil by the one entity, I mean, this comes up time and time again in close encounters with UFOs where entities are seen. and there's a very E.T. belief that they are taking soil samples back to their home planet. Now, the thing is, several centuries earlier, if we would have seen some sort of bizarre humanoid type entity messing around with the soil, we would have simply considered that, you know, oh, well, that's natural, because the fairies are intrinsically connected to
Starting point is 00:11:01 earth, nature, and farming. There's a lot of beliefs about how fairies could influence farming in agriculture for better or worse. And coincidentally enough, too, the inclusion of the herd of cows in this case. I mean, it bridges the gap between cattle blight and mutilation, the fairies, and the aliens. Now, the whistling, rushing type noise also comes up quite a bit in fairy lore. There were a lot of leaf systems that claimed that fairies would travel around in whirlwinds, to the point that in some traditions they were even referred to as fairy winds. And again, the same type of noise of the rushing type noise, even though the wind is still,
Starting point is 00:11:38 or the whistling type noise, has also been observed quite a bit in UFO cases. The object carried by the tallest entity, too. I mean, we could speculate on why Francois decided that it was definitely a mirror, as opposed to just saying that it was some sort of reflective or sparkly object. But either way, it calls to mind the Honeycutt encounter from Frogman Haunted Loveland, in which a troop of little gray man had the front man holding onto some sort of sparkling wand or chain. Now, the full body suit of pointed cranium and chin and the beard also tends more towards descriptions of various type of fairy, goblin, or imp. Now, too, I'm never saying with this that we should revert to the fairy faith and replace all of our motherships with fairy forts.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Just that I find it very interesting that there is an unbroken legacy of anomaly throughout all mankind's history that simply masquerades under the newest belief system of that time. So needless to say, this is a truly fantastic case that kind of exists at a crossroads of belief systems. At the time, it was handled by ephologists in a very eophological manner, though the entities themselves, I mean, consider it, they were still branded as devils. You can almost see the transition out of the more, the fairy faith or the more occult-type belief systems of yesteryear into the extraterrestrial hypothesis. For today, I am Zelia Edgar. Signing off. This has been just another tinfoil hat with Zelia Edgar. Be sure to rate and review wherever you get your podcasts. For full video versions of these episodes, be sure to subscribe to
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