Somewhere in the Skies - Logan Paul Shows Bob Lazar Chuck Clarke UFO Video, 46 UAP Videos to be Released, Kacey Musgraves Sees UFOs and Roasts Mick West, Chris Bledsoe Orbs, Aliens Help Lottery Winner 3 Times

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

* Get 15% OFF Anomalous Cards with promo code: SOMEWHERE15. Learn more and order at: https://www.letsgetanomalous.com/ On this episode of Somewhere in the Skies LIVE, Ryan & Suzanne break down all th...e latest UFO news, including: - Artemis II crew returns with emotional words. - Country Singer, Kacey Musgraves, reports mid-air UFO sighting. - Logan Paul shows Bob Lazar his "stolen" Chuck Clarke UFO video. - Chris Bledsoe films another orb video. - Kirk McConnell calls for whistleblower restitutions. - James Lacatski talks circles on Weaponized podcast. - Tim Burchett formally plans to dissolve AARO. - 46 UFO videos to be released by April 14th. Book Ryan on CAMEO at: https://www.cameo.com/ryansprague51?utm_campaign=profile_share Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: http://www.buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ PayPal: sprague51@hotmail.com Substack: https://ryansprague.substack.com/ All Socials and Books: https://linktr.ee/somewhereskiespod Follow Suzanne on X: https://x.com/csuzannelanders Email: ryan.sprague51@gmail.com SpectreVision Radio: https://www.spectrevision.com/podcasts Opening Theme Song by Septembryo Closing Song by Per Kiilstofte Livestream Music by Punch Deck: https://www.youtube.com/@PunchDeck Copyright © 2026 Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. #BobLazar #LoganPaul #ChrisBledsoe #Artemis2 #UAP #UFOs #UFOlogy #Disclosure #News #UAPresearch #Spacenews #Unexplained #Lottery Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Strange Familiers is a weekly podcast which explores the weird corners of the world. From Bigfoot and other cryptids to ghosts, UFOs, folklore, and forgotten history. We don't just talk to authors and researchers. We talk to actual witnesses of the paranormal. As he came in, the power flickered off again. I don't think I had ever been as scared of anything. It flickered back on and he was right beside me. And he got really close to my face and he said,
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Starting point is 00:02:42 nothing to hire it off. What's up? Welcome to Somewhere in the Sky's Live. I am your host, Ryan Sprague. Welcome to all of our YouTube watchers, our Twitter watchers, X, whatever you call it. Twitch, we're on Twitch tonight. I decided to throw Twitch into the party. And yeah, yeah, welcome, everyone.
Starting point is 00:03:09 That's Sue Sprague, if anyone was wondering who the mysterious woman is on my shelf there. That is my beautiful. late mother susan sprag um like who's this random uh framed photo in the background of of some blonde-haired blue-eyed woman that is my lovely mother um yeah yeah i thought she she should join us tonight for sure and keep an eye on me make sure i behave um okay before we get to the news guys i want to take just a few moments to thank our brand new patreon subscribers and our youtube members. Now, I have to be honest, I haven't kept up with our YouTube members. And for those of you who are YouTube members, I apologize. And I'm going to make up for it. You now have all the benefits and perks of
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Starting point is 00:05:21 that we put on the podcast every Wednesday. Cool, cool. So thank you. Thank you to all of you who have, who've joined and who will join. Truly appreciate all of your support. We have a couple brand new Apple podcast reviews and Spotify comments that I want to read out to you guys here. Over on Apple, Jeffrey 17 says,
Starting point is 00:05:45 A great UFO pod, five stars, plenty of podcasts present themselves as UAP-centric, but lack content when scrutinized. Ryan faithfully sticks with the subject matter and doesn't veer into kook country. Thank you, Jeffrey. Appreciate that. We get a little kooky every now and again because I do believe this extremely enigmatic and tricksterish phenomenon deserves it. And we have to. We've got to get kooky and woo sometimes. we're going to definitely get a little woo later in the show.
Starting point is 00:06:18 That's for sure. That's for sure. Backwood 69. How immature of me. Backwood 69 says, just got into this podcast. This is probably the third episode I've listened to. And so far, I will say I love it. Easy to listen to great topics, factual and very interesting.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Keep up the great work, y'all. I will keep listening. Thank you so much backwards. That's over on Spotify. I truly, truly do appreciate that. So guys, if you rate and review the podcast on Apple, you can leave a review and you're going to put this code word in. You got it?
Starting point is 00:06:56 We have a code word for you every week. And if you put that into your rating and review on Apple, we will shout you out on the next live stream like we're doing right now with Jeffrey and Backwoods. So your code word for today is Orb. Very simple. O-R-B. Put that in your Apple podcast review
Starting point is 00:07:19 or put it in a comment on Spotify. When this episode goes up on Spotify on Wednesday, if you put the word orb somewhere in your comment, I will know that you watched and or listen to this episode. And we'll shout you out. We'll shout you out on the next one. So there you go. That is your word of the day.
Starting point is 00:07:39 And yes, Michael Huntington, we did use orb for a reason as we will get to. Good to see you here, my man. Good to see you here. All right. What do we got? What do we got? That's enough.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Let's get to our first story of the night, guys. Artemis 2 crew has landed back on Earth. We have been following this story from the beginning. We live streamed the entire Artemis launch. Suzanne and I did. And we also live streamed the entire moon flyby, the lunar flyby. It was something like what? Suzanne, seven hours or something we live streamed.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah, eight hours long. Good Lord. But worth every second, they succeeded. This mission could not have gone better and neither could their touchdown back on Earth. So NASA's Artemis II mission successfully returned Earth with a textbook splash down in the Pacific Ocean, marking the first time humans have traveled around the moon and come back safely in over 50 years. Historic.
Starting point is 00:08:55 The four astronaut crew completed a roughly 10-day journey aboard the Orion spacecraft, re-entering Earth's atmosphere at extreme speeds and enduring intense heat before parachuting into the ocean, where recovery teams quickly secured them. The mission tested critical systems for future lunar exploration and proved that the spacecraft's ability to handle deep space travel and reentry and is being held as a major milestone paving the way for upcoming missions that aim to land humans back on the moon later this decade. Let's hear from the astronauts, guys,
Starting point is 00:09:35 because they all came back and gave the most heartfelt, emotional little speeches that I have ever seen. Good Lord, was I blubbering like a little school girl watching this? It was beautiful and inspirational. So I'm going to play a video for you guys, a little montage of the four astronauts giving their kind of, you know, first initial thoughts after making it back to Earth, after a three-year preparation for this mission. So we're going to hear from Reed Wiseman, Victor Glover, Jeremy Hansen, and Christine. Koch right now. So give this a watch. He will not regret it. Dr. Christina and Jeremy, we are bonded forever and no one down here is ever
Starting point is 00:10:28 going to know what the four of us just went through and it was the most special thing that will ever happen in my life and our families are over here and with the exception of Dot, Susie and Jeannie who are in the audience but I don't know where they are but I'm gonna hit Mac and Donalds later today. In honor of your husband, no one knows what the families went through, man. This was not easy. Being 200,000 plus miles away from home, like before you launch, it feels like it's the greatest dream on Earth. And when you're out there, you just want to get back to your families and your friends. It's a special thing to be a human and it's a special thing to be on planet Earth. Thank you. And now we're ready for questions.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I'm going to keep it brief because I don't I'm afraid to start talking I have not processed what we just did and I'm afraid to start even trying when this started on April 3rd I wanted to thank God in public and I want to thank God again because even bigger than my challenge trying to describe what we went through the gratitude of seeing what we saw, doing what we did, and being with who I was with, it's too big to just be in one body. And I wanted to thank our families for everything that he just said. So great words, great words, great words. I love you, but not just those five beautiful cocoa skin ladies right there.
Starting point is 00:12:31 All of you. And I wanted to thank you. our leadership. And it's changed since we were here in April of 2023, but the qualities haven't. And we are fortunate to be in this agency at this time together. And so I'm going to sit down. Thank you also to our air operations for this facility and for our ride home from San Diego. And I love you. Thank you. I asked the question, what makes a crew? What is different about a crew than a team?
Starting point is 00:13:19 And I was like, I got this, opened my mouth confidently to tell them everything I knew about being crewmate. And everything that came out of my mouth was completely without value. I was like, yeah, crews, they're in space and they work together, but they eat together too. crew and boats have crews you know your crew if you're on a boat helps if you have a paddle that's that'll be good that'll make you a crew but the last 10 days I've gotten a little bit of a better answer on that question a crew is people are you know a group that is in it all the time
Starting point is 00:14:05 no matter what that is stroking together every minute with the same purpose that is willing to sacrifice silently for each other that gives grace that holds accountable a crew has the same cares and the same needs and a crew is inescapably beautifully dutifully linked so when we saw tiny earth people asked our crew what impressions we had. And honestly, what struck me wasn't necessarily just Earth. It was all the blackness around it. Earth was just this lifeboat hanging undisturbingly in the universe. Uh-oh. So I may have not learned, I know I haven't learned everything that this journey has yet to teach me. But there's one new thing I know, and that is planet Earth, you are a crew.
Starting point is 00:15:43 We have a term in our crew that we coined a long time ago, the joy train. And you saw, I think you saw, sounds like you saw a lot of joy up there. There was a lot of joy. We're not always on the joy train, this crew. There are many times we're not on the joy train. But we are committed to getting back on the joy train as soon as we can. And that is a useful life skill for any team trying to get something done. And the last one is, I need your help for this.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Come on up here, guys. The last one is love. What you saw was a group of people who loved contributing, having meaningful contribution, and extracting joy out of that. And what we've been here, is that was something special for you to witness. And the reason I had them form up here with me is because I would suggest to you that when you look up here,
Starting point is 00:17:04 you're not looking at us. We are a mirror reflecting you. And if you like what you see, then just look a little deeper. This is you. Come on. Incredible. I couldn't put it better myself.
Starting point is 00:17:34 It was so cool to hear. from all of them. And I know as time goes on, they'll have a lot more time to reflect on the bigger questions of literally seeing their planet from a distance and achieving something that very few human beings ever have or ever will. It's just incredible. And they're all right. This world is in a very rough spot right now. I never want to completely give up on the world or be a defeatist. There are many beautiful things happening every single day around the entire world. And I just hope we can all stop and take these four incredible heroes, in my opinion. Their words to heart. We are a crew, the whole planet. The whole planet.
Starting point is 00:18:31 You know, we might not get along all the time. as I'm literally saying this, there are people dying in wars across the globe. My home country is a part of practically all of them, which I am not proud of, but there are many who fight and rail against that, these unnecessary wars. and I think it's important to look at these four people who are doing the most, the bravest thing we can possibly do. Leave our planet to further explore the universe for future missions. And we all have our opinions on what NASA is and what the true motivations behind their missions are
Starting point is 00:19:22 and, you know, planetary dominance, one-up in Russia and China and all that stuff. And it's all political, blah, blah, blah, blah. At the end of the day, these four people risk their lives for science and for us. And I just think it's amazing. I think it's absolutely amazing. So I salute them. I'm so happy they're back.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And we got more missions to go, guys. So yeah, pretty cool. Pretty cool. All right. Some people are telling me that they can't comment on the vertical version. I'm sorry. I don't know how that works yet. So if you're watching the vertical version, I'd say head over to the landscape version of the live stream where your chats, I believe, will show up.
Starting point is 00:20:12 That's unfortunate. Clearly our stream yard software hasn't figured that one out quite yet. But we'll try. We'll try next week for sure. But yeah, if you're watching the vertical version right now, go. back to our channel like the homepage and you'll see two of the same stream. One of them's
Starting point is 00:20:31 the landscape, the widescreen and that's where I think all the chats are showing up. So we'll try to figure that out in the future. So apologies for that guys. But yeah, I want to try to get all your voices in here. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's move to our next
Starting point is 00:20:47 story, which brings us to country music, something my family loves and I absolutely disdain. However, however, this is an interesting story with one of today's hottest country
Starting point is 00:21:03 music stars out there. Her name is Casey Musgraves. Admittedly, have never heard a single song. I play it right now, but I'm afraid to get copyright strike. So I'll have to check it out later. But this happened just like a day and a half ago where
Starting point is 00:21:19 she put this out on her Instagram. Country singer, Casey Musgraves alleges UFOs followed her airplane. Wow. The Grammy Award winning superstar took the Instagram to share her experience which left her
Starting point is 00:21:35 spooked and unable to sleep. So let's go ahead and watch her Instagram video. And it also includes, I believe, the actual video she took out of her plane window of these alleged UFOs. So let me go ahead and find
Starting point is 00:21:51 that here for you guys. Here is Casey Musgraves talking about her mid-air flight alleged UFO. Let's give this a watch. So I just got off a plane. I flew from Fort Worth, Nashville. It was me and one of my managers, Bobby. And we just had the craziest orb UFO experience. He saw it with me.
Starting point is 00:22:21 This is not the first time I have seen. I've seen many crazy things. I mean, literally keep looking up. I've seen fire, burning in the sky, things that I can't explain. So yeah, this is not the first time, but we just watched these orbs. There was three of them.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I noticed them. I'm a noticer. I'm always noticing things, but I was about to lay down and take a nap, and I saw these lights that caught my eye that just didn't look normal. and I watched them for a minute, and they were definitely, like, trailing each other, um, moving.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Anyways, they were about 50,000 feet up, probably. We watched them for maybe, like, 45 minutes. Um, I have videos. I'm going to post them. Yeah, it looks like I filmed a my, whi-ch toaster, but that's the quality. That's what we're working with. I have a, I have an iPhone 17. So, like, but it was just hard to focus because they, they were far off at its night time.
Starting point is 00:23:23 But like, these orbs were not moving like any craft that we can control. They were intermittently coming and going, forming triangle patterns. They were kind of an orangish color. Sometimes they would get extremely bright and change color, change size. The craziest thing is, so they followed us from about Little Rock area. That's when I noticed them all the way to Nashville. And we landed. Bobby and I were like, oh my God, like this was insane. Anyway, the pilots, you know, come back,
Starting point is 00:24:01 open the door or whatever, and we're like, uh, did you all just see something weird? And they're like, um, three orbs, uh, off in the sky. And we were like, yeah. And both pilots were laughing kind of and they were like, yeah, we have, we've seen these every single night. And all the other pilots are seeing them too and nobody knows what they are and one of the pilots said he said um yeah i was in new york last night and i saw him and the other pilot said yeah and i was in dallas and i saw him also so i just made it back home and um like i'm of course like holy like how am i going to sleep i just saw another one so is anyone else seeing these out there interesting all right what do you guys think? What did Miss Casey Musgraves see? Yeah, cell phone videos suck. They always do. I know, I know. That one wasn't bad. When she was able to capture it a little closer, it looked pretty, pretty interesting for sure. I love how someone said in the chat. I love that the pilots are apparently taking the just ignore it and it'll go away strategy. For sure, man, for sure. Well, okay.
Starting point is 00:25:55 She clearly was a little concerned about what she had seen. She said the orbs followed her after that and stuff. But what could be some of the explanations for that? I see you guys popping off in the chat about it, what it could be, what it couldn't be. A lot of musicians see these things. Yeah, yeah, because they travel a lot. A lot of wrestlers have seen UFOs, you know, athletes. They all report them because they're all flying so much.
Starting point is 00:26:23 It's crazy. It's crazy. Well, one person thinks they solved it. Take a wild guess who that person is. McWest. So, McWest put this up on his old ex account. He said Casey Musgrave's UFO sighting video has been identified as being 100% consistent with Starlink Horizon Flares. Her plane was in the flare zone for the entire flight, and the flares appeared in the right position,
Starting point is 00:26:57 moving and fading at the same speed as seen on the video. If she could share the exact time the video was recorded, then we could identify the exact satellites. Okay. Well, that solves it, I guess. We give Mick West crap, guys. But you know what? He's probably right.
Starting point is 00:27:23 And we should shout out F. Larky, Flarky, whoever McWest tagged in this, I think he was the one who originally kind of looked at this and was able to debunk it and figure out that it was Starlink related. I watched the video. It's pretty convincing. I'm not going to lie. But we don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:44 McWest is right. As, you know, he always says, even when he argues with these people about what the Tick-Tac was and all this, he says, okay, we need the time this was recorded. And then we can really figure it out for sure. save with a Tick-Tac. They are lacking data, therefore they cannot come to a solid conclusion on what that is or what it is. But, Mick West got a response from Ms. Casey Musgraves. And you could see.
Starting point is 00:28:16 She's got the mouth of a sailor. Makes sense for a country singer, right? She's got some sass to her. I like it. I like it. This was her response to Mick West. Hey Mick, if you zoom way into the videos, you can also see a really clear angle of Bigfoot riding your mom.
Starting point is 00:28:46 No, your video didn't freeze. That's me taking this in. She don't play, Donnie says. I love that a Grammy-winning country star just told the biggest UFO skeptic in the UFO community that Bigfoot I'm not going to repeat it
Starting point is 00:29:14 I this is hard because I want to laugh and I want to joke but like guys we need people to be skeptical of things I always tell people If we can solve a UFO case with a prosaic explanation, that's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:29:41 That is a very good thing. I personally found Mick West and F. Larky's data and explanation convincing. But I don't speak for everyone. We're going to talk about another orb in just a little bit, which I know millions of people believe. But yeah, I thought this was interesting. I thought it was hilarious. But I would say that I do believe this has been solved. However, that does not explain the orbs that followed her own, does it?
Starting point is 00:30:18 And maybe she's had other sightings as well. But yeah, I thought this is an interesting story. It was kind of fun, funny. But end of the day, we just don't know. We don't know what those things were or weren't. but yeah that's kind of where we're at with the casey musgraves orbs which again is your code word for tonight for your spotify and apple reviews orb hello to all our new people in the chat so good to see you guys here thank you thank you so much for being here if you're just joining us guys again we have a vertical version
Starting point is 00:31:00 and a landscape version of the live stream tonight um a lot of the vertical version comments are not coming through. That is not our fault. It is Streamyard, the software we use. Hopefully they will figure that out how we can get all your comments in one place, but we'll try to figure that out. If you really want us to read your comments, I would highly suggest going back onto our home screen of the channel and clicking on the landscape version. That's the widescreen version. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hello, screen. Good to see you here. Paula is here as well. Welcome. Good to see you guys. Welcome, welcome.
Starting point is 00:31:38 McNog is here. Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to the party, you guys. We're glad to have you here. We just talked about a Grammy-winning country star telling a UFO skeptic that Bigfoot was riding his mom. And how's your Sunday night? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Speaking of Orbs, guess who posted a new Orb video? Our Lord and Savior, Christopher Blutzo.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Praise be to the lady. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Guys, I'm a Christian. I was a freaking altar boy, dude. Like, I'm religious. I got a crucifix up on my wall. I pray almost every single night.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I have so much to be thankful for and grateful for and I feel so blessed. But I cannot help. But just laugh at this. How unbelievably ridiculous the entire Christopher Bledso story has become. And I do not fault him entirely. I want to be very clear. I do believe that Christopher Bledso has had legitimate, genuine UFO experiences. I would never take that away from him.
Starting point is 00:33:03 But this happens all the time where the story grows. it festers. It becomes something so unrecognizable from the initial experience that it becomes a religion. And I feel like that's where we are. I jokingly have this image of him praying to an orb. But guys, he does this. And I'm torn because it could be spiritual. These anomalous phenomena he's experiencing could be miraculous, could be miraculous, could be something. Godlike. But it's the way it's handled and it's the way these things go.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I just, let's watch. Let's watch the orb video that Christopher Bletso posted just a couple days ago. I want to get your thoughts on it. Let me find it here. Okay. Here's the quote unquote,
Starting point is 00:34:16 raw original video of the purple orb that Chris Bletso posted. there is no audio for this, guys, which is weird. Why is there no audio? There it is. So, what do you guys think? That clearly was not the original.
Starting point is 00:35:02 There was a cut there. I tried to find the most original one I could. Who, fertilized egg. Ouch, out, out, out, I'll judge, okay. A couple of questions. Why is there no audio in the original? I checked on his Facebook, no audio. Why is he pitch black?
Starting point is 00:35:26 Like, has he zoomed in so far that there's no stars in the sky? I don't understand. It looked like a black matte background with this purple orb, which many believe could be a water droplet filmed very up close. or a camera put up to a, what do you call that, peephole of a door. You get that like fish eye perspective. I mean, just looking at this image here,
Starting point is 00:36:03 it looks like a fish eye reflection of a room. I don't know, I don't know. Some people think they know. We have this post here that came from trolling, Riler? And they said, sorry, I got to. Debunked, went frame by frame and found a few frames or camera, autofocus moves, and you can see a fish eye reflection.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Looks like a front porch with a railing and overhang. Maybe an open garage door and support beams. It's a water droplet up close. Maybe due in a spider web. Ooh, interesting. There's also another video that I found of someone who talked about this orb and a debunking of it. And that was the YouTube channel Sling and Stone Live. I have put a link to the video in our show notes.
Starting point is 00:37:11 So you can go check out the entire video that they did. I'm new to that channel. So shout out to Sling and Stone Live. And I hope it's okay that we play this clip because they go into another debunk of this purple orb. as well. So I'm going to go ahead and play that for you guys. Get your thoughts on this debunk. Give this a watch. Look here. Okay. This is a video that people, that Mr. Bledsoe has put out. So okay, here's some of the evidence that we are looking at here. So that's the or video Chris just put out. Now,
Starting point is 00:37:43 Cole Squires on X has shown exactly how Chris Bledso made that video. Come with me as I turn this porch light into a UFO. Oh my gosh, guys. What's up, Brian? First of all, there's an orb. You see the orb? See the blue orb? Oh, it's in front of my finger now.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Here, I'm going to put the orb onto the light point that we're going to turn into a UFO. That light point right there, okay? I'm going to get that light point out of focus. Here's how Chris is making these videos. And we're going to ask AI to upres that photo. You find an orb, you film it, like a lens. I just this 100% of the time. It takes the fuzzy exterior of a boca and it turns it into a glassy sphere with something in the center.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I also made this one with a random out of focus point of light in a different video from Chris Bledsoe. Notice that it looks identical to the thing that he is calling an unedited image of an orb. Never listen to Peter Osborne or Chris Bledso using the words raw or unedited. They don't know what those words mean. Yes, so there we go. Now we see exactly how Chris is making. you can see how these two things look i mean exactly exactly like what chris is putting out they look like these cell things floating in the sky and this guy showed exactly how how this is done
Starting point is 00:39:09 just like chris is here you can see the two compared 100 percent exactly the same that's exactly what's going on chris is lying about these these images and just like somebody else has pointed out let's take a look here you can see the reflection of a person in the orb. You can see the silhouette of a person standing there. This looks like their back porch or something. And just like the guy in the previous video did, he caught a light in the camera, created the lens flare that pops up.
Starting point is 00:39:44 And then he enhanced it with AI and zooming in on it. So we can see the person here standing and the silhouette of the door. And that's what's happening. This is not a thing that has manifested and shown. in this guy just like again just like crisp blood so's orbs that he's just out of nowhere started getting these incredible up-close images of trying to find he also had one sorry i didn't have it pulled up but he posted another one recently too with like numbers in it it looks just like this the guy who's enhancing it he knows it he knows these people it's like this guy's massive deception
Starting point is 00:40:21 and and so i don't even know if he's told his kids about this i really don't because his kids are way doing the same exact like following this thing and believing this just like Ryan Bloodsoe here is saying what do you guys think were those debunks convincing or not it's hard 100% fake
Starting point is 00:40:42 someone says agreed I do think it's part paradolia I can't tell yeah okay so you know this is the problem when you go to a debunker's explanation
Starting point is 00:40:56 you're reading the explanation and then looking at the video. So Peridolia is 100% in effect. I can't deny that. But I'll say when I first saw the video, it looked to me like there was, I could tell there was a reflection inside the orb. Now, that doesn't mean it's fake. This anomalous orb could reflect if it's translucent, if it's some sort of weird
Starting point is 00:41:28 liquid or like, I don't know, gaseous sort of thing. Like, it could have a reflection. And the person video taping or recording it would be seen in that, which is apparently Chris Bledso. But there's just so much missing from this. It's just, I don't know. These explanations seem convincing to me, but I don't know. And nobody knows.
Starting point is 00:41:56 and the real problem I have with this is stuff like this. Let me pull it up here. Here is Chris Bletso's son, Ryan Blitzow, commenting on the video. We've been getting a lot of questions about how Dad made these videos. It's actually quite simple. First, you humble your heart before God and the Holy Spirit. Then you say a little prayer asking if they would be willing to give you a sign. Finally, you just point the camera up at the subject and record once it material.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I definition camera recommended. We will bring you cameras and witnesses to help you show the world. That's what this miraculous lady told Christopher Bledza that she was going to bring him a Nikon camera. High death, I guess. I don't know. I know hundreds of agnostic people who have experienced the orb phenomenon. I know thousands of people who aren't religious whatsoever and have experienced the orb phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:43:14 But not to this family. To this family, unless you humble your heart to God and pray and accept Jesus is your Lord and Savior, you didn't see a real orb. Oh, you said you were abducted by aliens and it was traumatizing to you and it ruined your life. not to the Bledso's no because you're not following their dogma
Starting point is 00:43:46 I'm sorry your story is bullshit I just I don't like how this is going with this family that's just my simple way of putting it and I'm trying I'm trying to be like
Starting point is 00:44:05 not dramatic about this because Brian Bledso could have very good intentions. And if he's clearly religious, I again will not take that away from him. And he's probably a nice guy. But the way I have seen him conduct his social media and the way he has treated other experiencers that don't follow him and his father's journey on the orbs and the white
Starting point is 00:44:37 lady and the whatever intelligence officials and NASA and all these weird connections they have with all that then your story doesn't mean anything and that's where I have a problem I firmly wish Chris Splato all the best but I don't think any of this is helping his case or what his family is trying to get across with their messages so We'll leave it at that. Maybe it's real orb. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's a water drop-wit.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Maybe it's a camera, what do you call it? A peephole of a door. Maybe it's all fake. Maybe it's all real. I don't know. We weren't there. So I'll give them that. Got us talking, didn't it?
Starting point is 00:45:32 Definitely got us talking. Let's talk about another UFO video, shall we? I'm excited about this one. I'm going to try to breeze this. through this so we can get poor Suzanne in here to talk about our later stories. So let me just, let me just start with it, guys. Let me start with it. I see you guys pop it off the chat with all your opinions.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Thank you. Thank you. This is what we need. We need a good conversation on this. So keep it going in the chat, but I'm going to move on to our next story because this is kind of a fun one. I'm liking this following these breadcrumbs and whatnot. Logan Paul, who I know from WWE, he's one of the best professional wrestlers out there right now.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Horrible human being, but one of the best wrestlers, in my opinion. The dichotomy is not lost on me. Oh, this idiot, pets. You up, Andrew, we're talking to Chuck Clark UFO video, baby. We are talking about it because Logan Paul, has apparently shown the mythical Chuck Clark UFO video to Bob Lazar. James Fox was on the impulsive podcast. This is a couple of years ago at this point.
Starting point is 00:46:49 And he told a story about seeing the greatest UFO footage he's ever seen that was owned by a man named Chuck Clark. So we're going to walk through this story, video by video guys, and kind of show you the evolution of it that's gotten us up to the point where Logan Paul has now shown this video to Bob Lazar. we the public us little plebeians out there in the world who are constantly scratching for those table scraps we might finally get to see this chuck clark video but let's start with when james fox was on uh logan paul's podcast to kind of set up this story shall we here we go i got 20 i got 20
Starting point is 00:47:30 nose from most people before i get the interviews and never stop trying 19 more deal you guys got 19 to go. So I, um, you talk about UFO footage, okay? And I'm going to say this because you guys have a big audience and I, there's people in Los Angeles area, and I know because I've seen the footage that have the most compelling UFO footage in the history of ever. I was working on my first documentary. There was a guy who was interviewing that was out Nevada. His name was Chuck Clark. And I get a phone call from him. We've been dealing back and forth because he's participating in my movie. And he calls me up and he goes, James, he goes, I got something you got to see. I'm like, oh, okay, well, what is it? And he goes,
Starting point is 00:48:04 I'm going to tell you what it is, but I'll tell you what. When you see it, your jaw's going to hit the floor. And I went, that good. He goes, oh, yeah, that good. Hung up the phone, jumped in my car, drove 12 straight hours. I get to this guy's double-white cabin in Rachel Nevada. Swear to God what I'm telling you is true, okay? He pops the tape in, it's a VHS tape.
Starting point is 00:48:24 And I said, where did you get? He goes, just watch. So I watch this, and there's two guys on the quintessential road trip from L.A. to Area 51. It was really popular in the 90s. And they're like goofing off next to the signs and they go the little alien. Hey, look at this little UFO. And they're just being silly, having a good time, road trip, music.
Starting point is 00:48:41 All of a sudden, the car stopped. It's dusk. And the camera is cocked on the armrest and it's shooting the dashboard and the windscreen. And it sounds like, and I couldn't see, but it sounds like the two guys in the car trying to climb under the seats. And they're screaming at each other. And all of a sudden, the car lights up. Like if you could imagine, like here's the car. if there's an object above the car
Starting point is 00:49:05 with a light on a pendulum and it's moving very smoothly like fluid like back and forth like this so the light source is moving and all the shadows on the inside of the car are moving in this really fluid motion I'm like Jesus Christ it's over the top of us get under get under
Starting point is 00:49:19 so anyway I'm looking at this footage and then the younger guy because apparently he was a 19 year old and a guy who was like 29 he goes I'm getting out I'm going to know stay in the car it's over the top of us ain't no problem I'm getting out I've never seen again
Starting point is 00:49:29 I promise you I saw this footage with my own eyes It's here in Los Angeles. The guy gets out of the car, takes the camera, and he pans it up, and right about the height of a telephone pole, you could hit it with a rock easily, was this perfect disc. And I interviewed a lot of people that have just tried to describe what the disc look like and had the flight characteristics and how it floats, but I'd obviously never seen it, so I could only imagine.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I've only had words, and I could see why they've had so much difficulty describing what that's a look like, because the skin on this thing was glowing like it was alive. I swear to God. And it was sitting there rocking like this, like kind of rocking like a boat on the ocean, like really fluid and smooth. And it's glowing. And then it had these like, like if you took a pie and you cut perfectly symmetrical piece out of the pie. And where the scene was was slightly darker, but all around it, everywhere else was glowing. There wasn't like a light source.
Starting point is 00:50:21 It was like it was a lot. I don't like this one. I just looked at it go, this fills in all the blanks. This is the most amazing footage. The guy goes, oh my God. And then the camera shuts off. Where's the footage? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Where's the footage? Yeah, where's the footage? James, because this is where you lose me? Because you're saying these things. I'll pay good money for you. And where is the footage? Yeah, I know. I'll try to crypt that.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I'll tell you right now, Chuck Clark has it. Who is that? Dick Clark's brother? Chuck, he wrote a book of this manual. There's people going after it. But look, man, I'm just telling you. I need it. Chuck, I'm coming.
Starting point is 00:50:47 If somebody, Chuck, I'm coming. If somebody... I'm coming to find you, Chuck Clark. Chuck is coming. I'm going to do what I did with Pokemon to UFOs. Yeah, if the market's booming. I know. as you guys are about it. How do you think I feel? Why is he hiding it?
Starting point is 00:51:01 He's not hurting. Okay, so I know, right? So the guy, so what Chuck told me at the time, and I harassed him for 15 years, and he goes, if you ask me again, I'm never going to talk to you. And then I ask him again, of course. He never talked to you. Never talked to me again. Wow. He's stuck to his guns on that. He wrote, he wrote the, the area S4 and 51 handbook. He was an amateur astronomer. He was, he'd located at Area 51, when Area 51 was really hot back of the 90s, he'd located these vantage points on these mountain tops where you could see down onto the base and like where you wouldn't violate national security or go where you weren't supposed to go. Chuck had done all that stuff
Starting point is 00:51:35 and he was just out there. He was a fixture out there and these kids were on a road trip and they were laughing and mocked and then they drove out of town and they had this encounter and then they came back into town and were like, we think we shot something that the government's going to kill us over. That's what he told me. They think they captured a secret military craft that's completely secret on camera. All right. So there's the story of the Chuck Clark UFO video and James Fox having seen this and Logan Paul asked a very valid question. Where is the video and why can't we see it? So Logan Paul did say, I'm going to go find this guy.
Starting point is 00:52:12 I'm going to try to get it. And Logan Paul would go to Chuck Clark's home with $100,000 in CA. In the middle of nowhere, went to this guy's like RV or wherever he lived, 100K in cash offering it to him. for the video. Chuck Clark would not take the money, but he did show the video to Logan Paul. What happened next? We're going to let James Fox explain to Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:52:45 He was on the Joe Rogan podcast and explained what Logan Paul did while he was there watching the UFO video. This apparently incredible, most clear UFO video ever taken that James Fox said exists. Um, this is what Logan Paul did, according to James Fox. Let me find that video for you here. One sec.
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Starting point is 00:55:52 I get contacted a couple of years ago by a guy who goes, I saw that video too. Then another guy contacts me and he goes, he goes, I'm a private investigator and I find people. I said, well, his name's Chuck Clark. Go to it. So he finds him. Right at that time, I'm going on the impulsive
Starting point is 00:56:10 podcast with with Logan Paul and I tell Logan Paul the story and he has exactly the same response you have and I don't blame you okay I'm not here to convince anybody of anything I'm just telling you what I saw it was very impressive what I saw very impressive if it was a fake my God that was well done but I mean he should be making movies with Spielberg so anyway what is this channel name who has this yeah Chuck Clark so you doing look well let me finish so Logan Paul he's like I want to I want to go to this guy's house. I said, I got the guy, he's got the information. Logan's like, this is all behind the scenes. So Logan, Paul, takes, uh, I put him in touch with this guy and this guy lives
Starting point is 00:56:52 in the middle of nowhere. I mean, it was like Logan Paul takes a Mercedes with a bunch of guys and $100,000 in cash, a big brick. And he goes out to this guy's house in the middle of the desert. And Logan calls me in the middle of nowhere. He's like, you sure your contact's legit, dude, my phone doesn't work. I'm in the middle of nowhere. I got 100k cash in my pocket and I can't find this guy I said no I'm sure he's good you know and uh so Logan goes in there and meets Chuck Clark and Chuck Clark's like yeah got the tape right here and so he says I'll give me a hundred grand for it and the guy says no way and so Logan Paul is the gonna reveal this for the first time Logan Paul has got a button camera on his
Starting point is 00:57:32 on his dress on his clothes so Logan Paul's like all right well this guy doesn't want to you know he's gonna die with it so So let's get, you know, let's get this thing on camera. So Logan's like, well, let me see it at least. So Logan, like, looks at it with this thing and, oh, could you show to me again? Gets another angle. Gets another angle. And then he leaves.
Starting point is 00:57:53 So Logan's like, I don't know if I want to go public. Okay. So that's part two of the story. Logan Paul would go to Chuck Clark's. Chuck Clark could play this incredible UFO video. Logan Paul secretly had a button camera and recorded. the video from different angles and all of that so logan paul is now in possession of the char clark video and he also saved himself a hundred k not that he needs to save money but yeah yeah so that's
Starting point is 00:58:28 where the story was kind of going um we get a little bit more of logan paul's side of it in this next clip from the impulsive podcast so i'm going to play for you guys um then i got a little little tidbit for you guys about something I experienced with James Fox that kind of plays into this story but let's go ahead and go right to Logan Paul talking about this back on his show. This is after he
Starting point is 00:58:53 obtained, stole, retrieved the UFO footage, okay? Let's give this one. A watch. Okay. Only video that proves that there is life outside of this fucking solar system and you're sitting on it and you're
Starting point is 00:59:11 not showing it to anybody. Why can't you show anybody this? I'll tell you why, Jeff. Because it's not right. What do you think? Are you like the government? Are you an Illuminati? Are you worried about people like going nuts?
Starting point is 00:59:24 Brings James Fox on his show to talk about alien evidence, so on and so forth. And James Fox shares a previously unheard story about you going to purchase this existing footage of aliens landing on the earth for $100,000. What was the guy's name that wouldn't sell it to you? Chuck Clark. Chuck Clark, who has been gatekeeping this footage like a, like a freaking OnlyFans girl, would not sell you the footage for a rack of hundreds, right? So you said, hey, man, do you mind just showing it to me? And while he showed it to you, you recorded it on a secret fucking camera.
Starting point is 00:59:58 What do you want from me, bro? I'm a sneaky. Oh, you stole the footage. I'm a sneaky little fuck. Oh, that's sick. Damn. I thought you just bought it like the Pokemon cards. No, I tried.
Starting point is 01:00:06 I offered him $100,000 for this tape after I had seen. It's been it. Was it worth it? Let me tell you this. He should have fucking taken the money because I got the footage anyway. No, okay. And I'll tell you why I did that because it's a little, it's a little twisted. It's a little twisted of me to put on a small button camera and go film UFO footage that, uh, isn't mine.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Here's the thing though. It's not his either. The people who shot it gave it to him and expected that he would keep it hidden for himself. It's not his footage. He's keeping very, what I thought, thought at the time important UFO alien extraterrestrial proof in his possession and not
Starting point is 01:00:50 showing it like why why I think that is doing a disservice to the world like what's the what's because you said you wouldn't share it not not going to do it for me. Rogan said the reason he's probably not sharing it's because it's probably Fugasey you know what I'm saying so he's locking it down just to build hype up no no no no Chuck Clark
Starting point is 01:01:07 lives in a shack in the middle of nowhere it was the most middle of nowhere I've ever been in my life you're from Ohio and so the guy's not the guy's not clout chasing or anything I would I would I would show it to Bob Lazar do you know Bob Lazar is yeah yeah Bob Lazar he yeah he worked at S4 allegedly you know on an alien aircraft that had an anti-gravity device I watched the Rogan interview with him it is captivating it is highly fascinating and I found it interesting and I would show the footage to Bob Lazar to ask him if he's seen anything like it and in in that case maybe if he if he if he can
Starting point is 01:01:49 verify the legitimacy of this tape then maybe I would the footage is compelling not convincing it's from 1995 the tape had been worn down it's been played probably over a hundred times and so the quality is not great and everything about it screams bullshit which is the true reason I haven't released it. It's not enough. It doesn't have enough meat on the bone and proof for me to put it out confidently and be like, this is this is legit UFO footage. There's one kind of interesting thing about the video that could prove its validity. When you scrub through the footage forward and forward and back like kind of fast, like you take your little slider and you scroll through like this. the disc hovers so so fluidly it's like it's like buoyant almost in the air and I'm not sure if that type of movement like as fluid as it was was possible in 1995 VFX editing it looks it looks like too good it looks too good and it's the one compelling thing about this video where I'm like that's maybe that's something but I don't like I just don't have enough information at the moment to confidently release this video unless I can prove that it is somewhat legit. And maybe Bob Lazar can help me. So will Bob Lazar help him is the question?
Starting point is 01:03:28 A lot of people in the chat are saying, what a hypocrite, man. Like, you know, you're saying Chuck Clark won't show this to the world. Now, you're not showing it to the world. And also, your video is going to suck compared to the one Chuck Clark has because he got it on a button camera. it's probably degraded to hell and like a millionth generation at this point. But I mean, it's there.
Starting point is 01:03:51 The video's there. So that's, and I found it compelling what he said about, you know, the buoyancy of the craft in the air, the skin of the craft and whatnot and all that. That was interesting. But at this point, like, we only have James Fox, his word on this. We only now have Logan Paul's word on this. It's all interesting, but apparently Logan Paul got in touch with Bob Lazar. So that's going to get right to our next very short video, I promise, when it comes to this whole thing.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Here we go. And spoke with the man the myth, the legend, Bob Lazar, the man who worked to Area 51 and personally reverse engineered alien craft. And guess what? I showed him the alleged alien UFO video footage that I have in my possession. Yeah, and it was exactly like that. UFO enthusiasts have been waiting for this moment for years. I said, Logan, show us the footage. I showed Bob Lazar the footage. And I did it on my friend Jesse Michael's show. It's called American Alchemy. I think it's coming out some time in the next week or so. But this alien shit's getting serious. It's getting serious, guys. So he showed it to Bob Lazar. Bob Lizar said, yep, that is just like what I saw. Um, which I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:05:11 understand that because the way Bob Lazard describes what he saw an experience does not sound like this at all but I maybe I can be swayed I don't know it's interesting so dumb my context is what I find interesting is that eventually James Fox would see an image of a taken from a video that was online um of a UFO that a gentleman named Carlos Diaz saw in Mexico. And James Fox would go on to say that that craft in that video looks almost identical to the video I saw. It's not the same video, not the same location or anything like that, but it looked and acted just like that. So what I'm going to do now is play a clip from our really good friend Pavel over a Secoactivo podcast.
Starting point is 01:06:14 he did a whole episode on this story and he found this really interesting video of Carlos D.S.'s of the UFO. So this will give us a better idea of the craft that Logan Paul and James Fox have seen in this that Chuck Clark has and that Bob Lazar has now seen. So let's watch this video from our good buddy, Pavel.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Link is in the show notes to his entire video on this, but I do want to shout him out for doing a lot of the legwork on this. And this video is pretty interesting. So give this a watch. And then we are getting to a commercial and bringing Suzanne in because I do what I always do. And I just go on and on and on. So let's let Pavel talk. This is really cool.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Where is it? Here we go. This tweet from James Fox from 2023. He says the footage Chuck Clark showed me circa in 1995 was something. something like this but further back and it was video. Logan Paul, was this at all what you saw? I know the VHS tape has significantly deteriorated since I saw it. So the image that he showed here is an image from another sighting or alleged sighting from
Starting point is 01:07:37 1981, allegedly, from a man by the name of Carlos Dias, a Mexican man. this is the video itself it doesn't have any sound but this is the alleged video and this has been already uh according to debunkers debunked as a lamp sort of like a some sort of a lamp i don't know if that's the case to be honest with you but uh it's something like this you know and and the chuck clark video allegedly is very much like this one from carlos diaz that close-up is really wild. And the story about Carlos Diaz is that he was taking photography since 1979. And this video and photos were allegedly taken in 1981. But it wasn't until 1991 that he went to Jaime Mousan and showed him this. And that's when the whole case took off. And people within the
Starting point is 01:08:37 euphology community in the U.S. were really interested about this one. And yeah, as I've told you, multiple times before every single UFO case in history has a debunk regardless of whether it's real or not every single one has a debunk or a prosaic explanation that's just how it works and we really can't do anything about it so let me show you a few stills of this as well this is another one this is one that carlos diaz recently showed on podcast paranormal with fepo uh this is one of the pictures that like the OG pictures that he took physically with FEPO and showed it on the show. There's another one. I don't know if this has been edited or not, but this is very similar to what we see in the
Starting point is 01:09:27 video. So maybe it's just a still from the video. Then there's this one. And this one has, it's from Tepostlan Morelos, according to this. And Teposlan is a really magical place. I was there last year myself. and I really enjoy being there. It has a very different energy.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Recently, I did a video on Grimberg, where they do talk about Teposlan and all those places that are rich in ferrite, which is a magnetic mineral, and there's always really strange activity going on there. So presumably that's the type of thing that Logan Poll has in his position, and that is what he allegedly showed Bob Lazar.
Starting point is 01:10:10 And seemingly, and Boblussar, based on the observations that he saw when he was over there, he claims, or apparently he thinks that it's very similar this video. And we can also add the Carlos Diaz video to it because according to James Fox, it was very similar to that. All right. Special thanks to Pavel for letting us play that. I asked him earlier. He was like, for sure, man. so shout out again link in the show notes to his whole video
Starting point is 01:10:45 I see you guys a lot of you think all of that was a hoax I get it the minute you mentioned Jaime Mason I run for the hills totally understand but they are some interesting videos the way the skin of the craft
Starting point is 01:11:01 is kind of lava-esque and whatnot and like I said this does not remind me at all of like the silver sports model UFO that Bob was our alleges to have worked on. However, Andrew brought up in the chat, maybe that's what it looks like when it's powered up. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, maybe the thing gets like super hot.
Starting point is 01:11:20 It's kind of like, you know, when you got a frying pan going and it gets really, really hot and starts to turn orange. I don't know. I don't know. Ryan, this could be what the sports model looks like when actually turned on. Yep, yep. Everyone else in the chat is like, this is, I love how Michael Huntington. hasn't been in our chat in like forever and then he comes in tonight he's like hoax fake dumb i love you i love you what would we do without you michael huntington we got to get back in touch
Starting point is 01:11:51 man i love it um i think it's an interesting story um Logan paul's an idiot but at the end of the day he's got the money to make people talk and sometimes that's the only way we're going to get any sort of disclosure on this stuff. Will we see the Chuck Clark video finally on the American Alchemy podcast? Only time will tell. When's it going to drop? Maybe this week. I don't know that for a fact. I'm just acting like I know that for a fact. I do not. I said I have a small connection to all of this. So when James Fox was here in Scotland, I went up to the head of Highlands with him to Calvin, which is right outside Pitlockery here in Scotland. And we were looking for the alleged location of the famous Calvin UFO photo.
Starting point is 01:12:44 And we're in the car. It was hilarious. James was there, his cameraman, James' sister. And then Craig Lindsay, the RAF press officer who interviewed the original witnesses and photographers of the famous Calvin UFO photo. He was there to help paint the picture for us. bring us to the location and it was incredible. But while we're in the car, James Fox was like,
Starting point is 01:13:09 hey, Ryan, have I played this for you? You're a wrestling fan, right? And I was like, yeah, dude, I'm more than a fan. I've got a podcast about it at the time, at the time. And he's like, listen to this voicemail. And he plays this voicemail for me, and it's Logan Paul. And I don't know if James is going to kill me for sharing this. probably not. I'm not saying anything
Starting point is 01:13:34 like explosive. But in this voicemail, Logan Paul had just gotten, you know, had just stolen the video or re-recorded it with Chuck Clark. And in this voicemail, he's like, James,
Starting point is 01:13:51 James, I got it. I got the video. Oh my God. You'll never believe what I did. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He's like, dude, this video is insane. It's crazy. It's crazy. Mind you, this was right after he saw it and obtained it. So I'm sure adrenaline was going, you know, that first time you see it,
Starting point is 01:14:12 that rush and all that, you go back and replay it time and time again. You're going to find more maybe that you can, I don't know, debunk or not find this interesting, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, Logan is now saying, I don't find it that convincing. Well, then why are you sharing it with Bob Lazar? I don't know. but that was my fun little story about Logan Paul right after he had stolen the video basically and James played that for me.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Hilarious. Only time will tell. Will we finally see the Chuck Clark video on American Alchemy? We will see. Right now, guys, we're going to take a very quick break because I am way over what I said I was going to be for this first half of the show. Commercial break. We're going to bring Suzanne in and get to the bulk.
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Starting point is 01:17:44 Check it out. Let's get a novelist.com. All right. We got some awesome stories coming for you guys. So she needs to help me break these down so that I don't take another two hours to go through Logan Paul videos. what is my life can you answer that for me i think she can welcome hi how are you good i'm good i'm having a great time drinking my cherry flavored beer tonight how are you i'm good i have very boring coffee but in a very fun oh let's see very on nomicon if you're just listening yes susan has an an nomicon mugon
Starting point is 01:18:29 I love it. I got to start preparing for Anomicon. I know. TikTok. It's time. Dang, September, right? Yeah, I should probably get on that. Some queries, yeah. Yep, yep, yep. Hey, guys, if anyone in the chat, if you think you're an expert on something anomalous, and you can give like a 30 to 40 minute presentation, reach out to me through email. I'm serious.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Like, we're officially right here. We're looking for speakers for Anomicon 20206. There we go. There we go. We're ready. So what have you thought? of the stories we covered so far tonight. I think, my goodness, this is the best and the worst of euphology, right? And it's also, I think, a snippet picture of exactly what ufology is and the sorting that has to go on. I agree. I would have to agree. You get the best and the worst here. It's
Starting point is 01:19:23 somewhere in the sky's life. Exactly. And if YouTube doesn't get its act together of this chat, I hope you guys can see my comments. I can see you, but I can't tag you except every once in a while it lets me, I don't know what they're doing. It's, you know, it's this vertical and landscape thing, too, is messing everything up. It's good for views, but it's bad for our conversations for sure. So, again, we will troubleshoot that in the future, guys. I do want to give a shout out the Constellation Fleet for the 499 Super Chat. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Thank you. I really do appreciate the support. Super Chat's open, guys. If you want to help out the show tonight, we have a goal of five. If it can't help us financially, simply like this video, subscribe, do all that YouTubey stuff. You know what I found out today, Susan? I was looking at our analytics.
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Starting point is 01:20:25 It means new people are watching, but it's so easy. You just click subscribe and you will be notified when our next video drops. No money, no drama. Nothing. No drama. Yeah, we've had enough of that for tonight. That's a drama this week. I do want to make one thing clear before we move forward.
Starting point is 01:20:44 I know I give a lot of crap to like Ryan Bledso and the Bledso's and all that. And sometimes to like Corbeau. It might be all on Twitter for everyone to read. Exactly. If you want Fissela. me go to my Twitter account. But I want to make it clear. I am no expert on any of this stuff.
Starting point is 01:21:02 I have no more right than anyone else to be judging them or anything. I just point out things that I find problematic when it comes to the messaging they're putting out there when it comes to this community that I love so much and that I've been a part of since I was freaking 13 years old and I hold it dear to my heart. It's become my identity in many ways. and I hate to see the sort of things that they're doing where it's like their way or the highway. So I have problems with it, but I don't want people to think I'm like, I don't believe that they've had legitimate experiences. I just wanted to get that out there because I feel like that's how I kind of came off, especially tonight.
Starting point is 01:21:44 But yeah, I just wanted to get that little thing out there. I would throw in the observation to that religion in a topic like this is much like politics in a topic like this. I'm not sure it's helpful because it can be very divisive. And that doesn't help the subject and it doesn't help us. For sure. For sure. You know, and we will have Diana Pesulka back on the show somewhat soon. And, you know, her whole thing is like UFOs, religion and all that.
Starting point is 01:22:12 There are correlations, obviously. It's an anomalous phenomenon, which, you know. Exactly. What would like a caveman think if they saw a, An iPhone. Yeah. Or electric car. For sure.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Pocket dog. Thank you. Oh, thank you so much, pocket dog. So sweet. Hey, Ryan, have we confirmed that Gareth is in the chat? Garrett? Garrett. I thought.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Gareth, I believe so. I think he is. I think he is. Hey, Gareth. Gareth. Garrett. Oh, hold on. I've removed you from the screen.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Oops. And I'll be exactly. I did exactly what I wasn't supposed to do. It's hard. There we go. Okay. There we go. There is, guys.
Starting point is 01:23:02 That's for Garrett. That's for you, Garrett. That one was free. That one was free. Amanda, someone else was doing it. It's so funny. Yeah, it's Amanda Rose. That is.
Starting point is 01:23:13 There's a great. Awesome T-shirt. I need that T-shirt. Where did you get that? Somewhere online. You know, the inner webs are like miraculous, right? Somewhere. on the line. I love it. I love it. UFO mom. This is so funny. You guys are so funny.
Starting point is 01:23:30 That's awesome. That's awesome. Hey, maybe we'll have to put a similar one in our shop. There we go. Yeah, we should. We should. UFO mom, UFO dad, UFO stepson, UFO cousin. We got it. Dog, cat. I'll get on that. You know me. I'm like constantly thinking of more ways. Okay. I wasted so much damn time. I promise you we'd go an hour. 30. We're at an hour 26, so I'm sorry in advance. But let's get to these stories. How are you guys doing? We might be going two hours tonight. I apologize. I apologize. That's on me. That's okay. What's our first story we're covering with you? Oh, Kirk McConnell. Heck yeah. I like this guy. He was in, um. And I like what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:24:16 For sure. I was rewatching, well, not the phenomenon, James Fox. The program. that Kirk McConnell kind of came forward in. That was the first time he went public about his work in the UFO space and stuff he experienced and stuff. So this is an interesting story. Kirk McConnell and the Soul Foundation released a paper on UAP whistleblower restitution fund. Sorry, I'm hickabee because I'm tricking Leshuf. Do you want me to read a little bit here? Yeah, go for it.
Starting point is 01:24:48 No, you go for it. Kirk McConnell is a former longtime U.S. congressional. staffer with over 30 years serving a key defense in intelligence committees and is now a policy advisor on UAP issues with the sole foundation of which you've gone to two of their events so far. So, excuse me, the policy brief he recently authored argues that many individuals with knowledge of classified UAP programs are deterred from reporting to Congress due to credible fears of retaliation, which we have seen, Suzanne, firsthand. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Including job loss, rebuked security clearances, legal threats, and even personal safety risks. Exactly. Yep. High profile cases and statements from U.S. officials reinforce these fears are widespread and often justified, creating a chilling effect that prevents potentially critical disclosures. To address this, McConnell proposes establishing a UAP whistleblower, restitution fund, which you're going to have to break down for me because me dumb, me don't understand these things. Helping to cover lost wages and expenses of individuals who are deemed credible while
Starting point is 01:26:07 encouraging others to come forward. The fund could be administered through the executive branch, Congress, or an independent nonprofit, though each approach has its challenges. Ultimately, the proposal emphasizes that enabling, safe and supported whistleblowing is essential for congressional oversight of UAP programs. Completely agree. We cannot move forward in a substantive and productive way until we fix this problem. And as everybody in the chat probably knows, restitution is just a big fancy legal word for making things whole again. A wrong was done to you and we're going to make up for it the best way we can
Starting point is 01:26:49 and that's going to be with dollars. These whistleblowers, now you've heard us talk about this problem, but the economic hatefulness that goes on around them is staggering. And it literally takes these whistleblowers and their families down to the poverty level. And then they monkey with their clearances and they monkey with their job referrals, all from behind the scenes, nothing provable, tangible, although you can see the impact of it happening.
Starting point is 01:27:21 There's no way that these whistleblowers are having this problem in this continual across-the-board way, and there's not something orchestrated going on. So I think this is a really important step on so many levels. I'm proud of the Soul Foundation, too, for stepping up and white-papering this. You know, lots of things people can do with their time and their money, but they paused to take care of some other humans
Starting point is 01:27:46 who are really important in this topic. Absolutely. Now, I guess my question for you is, do you think this has any connection to what someone like Matthew Brown is trying to get off the ground, or do you think this is completely different? I suspect that they are separate but traveling along a similar path. Might they be talking? They might. They certainly might. And I would suspect that Matthew Brown's story is a motivator to them. And Dylan Borland. as well, you know, several others. David Grush, he experienced significant issues, including safety issues for him and his family. So I think step in the right direction, not sure who all behind the scenes is for this.
Starting point is 01:28:33 I also wonder maybe, Ryan, if we're not having any luck on the UAPDA getting in front of a congressional vote. So maybe they've decided, well, let's cherry pick. Let's cherry pick for a while and see if we can fix some of the problems this way, and then we'll continue to work on the others. For sure. I feel like every time the UAPDA comes up, it just like, it fizzles out or it's just like shut down. So I don't know where we stand down.
Starting point is 01:29:06 And I'm not sure the country at this point with everything else going on has the bandwidth for that, right? I think timing can matter dramatically. And this is not a great time for that with everything else going on in the world. So I'm hoping it's a step. And maybe some of the emotional and political clutter that's everywhere right now will stay out of the way of this and just let this quietly move along in a positive way. Yep. Trying to keep things positive. That's all that really matters.
Starting point is 01:29:40 I know there's so much negativity and, you know, snide remarks that even I have been guilty of when it comes to. a lot of these UFO stories. But at the end of the day, I do feel a lot of these people have really good motivations and reasons for why they're involved with these things. Maybe some of them think there's like money to be had, but a lot of money is being spent by these organizations. Good luck on that, right? Right. Exactly. Hey, speaking of bills. Yeah. Let's move to our next story. Okay. It's got to do with this man. Daggum it. That's our sad AI version of Timberchette. So Timberchette has made the claim that aliens are definitely real, have visited Earth,
Starting point is 01:30:33 and he also, on a side note, wants to get rid of Arrow. That was a very whiplash headline right there. But this is interesting. Now, he's recently been kind of going on a bunch of shows and talking about this meeting. that he just had recently with, like, actual military people who have said some really interesting things. There was that story going around that Matt Gates, the highly problematic, Matt Gates, we must stress that. On so many levels. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Had a meeting with, like, actual uniformed military people who said that there's like an alien human hybrid program going on and the government's aware of this. Crazy story. We did not cover it. I don't want to cover it right now. However. Let it sit. Yeah. Let it, let it do with this thing. Yeah. Let it cook. Yes. Good, good, good.
Starting point is 01:31:26 But I want to play this video that I can't believe I'm saying this. TMZ did where they interviewed Timberchette about this, about his comments that he's made on these interviews about this meeting that he had. And then we'll move into the arrow part of it. So I really want your thoughts on that. So please bear with. me and I will play this video for you guys. Daggomet. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:31:56 There were, there have been different reports over the years. Some reports that there have been pieces of machinery that were found that did not seem earthly. And then there have been reports about life that is not earthly. Which one of those two or both? are you talking about? A form of life that is not earthly or just a mechanic something mechanical that's not earthly. I say you'd be safe to say both. The way you described this whatever happened and this meeting, this briefing that was happening, was there something that if we knew we would feel that we are in
Starting point is 01:32:37 danger? You said you'd be you wouldn't sleep at night if you knew the things that I saw in these briefings. Yeah. I think believe that that's that's the part where it was I don't think we're at danger of this. I mean, these things exist as I think they do. They could have destroyed us with a blink of an eye. I just don't see that. And I think that, I just think, but I do think they have the technology and the capabilities of something that we can't understand or we can't grasp.
Starting point is 01:33:07 What I want to make sure I'm understanding is a member of our government has told you and others, I guess, that there is a form of alien life and machinery which maybe brought this living creature here that interacted in some form with people? Yeah, they have. And they've, it's pretty wild. I know, I know. But I'm just telling you, I'm not going to lie to you. I'll take a lie to tell you won't put me on a polygraph.
Starting point is 01:33:41 I'll take it. But, you know, this is what the guy told me. I mean, I've had a very high-ranking naval official described, you know, I've talked about this before. Underwatercraft, something big as a football field, moving at over 200 miles an hour. And there's no fish in the ocean that would do that. We don't even have a sub that'll probably do 40 miles an hour under the. And the last thing he said before he left my office was, it was kind of weird because he didn't go out the, he went out the side doors, nobody ever used this. And he looked at me and he pulled me up close. He said, Tim, they're real.
Starting point is 01:34:10 And that's the last thing he said to me. That'll be the title of my book, I guess. Matt Gates was involved in something here just recently. He was interviewed, and he talked about this interbreeding thing with, you know, we saw that. We saw that. Well, you know, that was a, that's a true story. That was a military, a person, military personnel.
Starting point is 01:34:31 I think that would be a good story to talk to him about if you all can do that. Right, he says he learned that from someone in the military. Yeah, absolutely. guy as an officer in uniform. Yeah. And Matt and I and, um, and Representative Luna, we all went down to Florida, you know, and we were turned away. Um, and then Matt made a phone call to somebody at the Pentagon and all of a sudden they opened the doors and brought the pilots in that were supposed to tell us the story in the first place. And, and he can probably elaborate a little
Starting point is 01:35:01 bit more on that, but that was, that was pretty fantastic. That would a, that was a made for TV special right there in itself. Oh my goodness. What do you make of that? I don't know what to make of that. And you know what it makes me think of? Mark Christopher Ray, is that his name? Mark Christopher Lee.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Mark Christopher Lee. Lee. I think he got played. Is Burchett being played? I don't know. I don't for a moment think you're going to knock on the gates of a secure facility and they open the door and they're going to show you everything. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:35:38 I know. I also think it's an extreme. extremely human-centric perspective, that they're coming to us from there, wherever they're, you know, out there somewhere. I don't know that we know that. You know, everybody needs to simmer down. I have an idea. Let's study it.
Starting point is 01:35:59 I recall you saying that last week, too. Yeah, and then let's tell the truth. Let's tell the truth. For sure. Thank you so much for the super chat, Michelle. Truly, do appreciate that. So nice. As well.
Starting point is 01:36:12 I love this spicy chat today. I'm so mad I can't reply very well in it. YouTube needs to get a act together. It does. I know. Yeah, I'm with you on all of that. It does seem like a lot of these Congress members are kind of chasing shadows, as we say, in the UFO field of these stories and whatnot. You know, that's why I give credit to Eric Burlington, who's actually like going out and a
Starting point is 01:36:40 investigating and whatnot. And he's calm about it. He doesn't cross the crazy boundaries of, you know, speculation. He's just letting it roll. Letting it roll. I know, I know. What did Jayonne say? The chat is moikante-a-horra.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Very hot right now. Very spicy. Love it. We're getting all of that from Ryan's brag on Twitter. For sure, man. Ghost pepper right there. Yeah. Is moibed.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Becante. Exactly. Okay. Well, he was mentioning a very high-ranking Navy person that he talked to. Sounds like Tim Gallaudet to me. What about you? Who do you think it is? It's funny you mention that.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Guess who I just confirmed is coming on somewhere in the sky. If you don't let me get on that, I'm going to be so mad. Oh, you're in there. You're so good. You know, he's a little bit of a rock. star to me. We do not align politically, but I do admire his courage. Yeah, he's a nice guy. Yeah. For sure. Um, yes, Tim Galaday will be coming on the summer in the sky's podcast. Yep. You're learning the same time I'm learning. It's very excited. Yeah, breaking news. Yeah, he's got a new
Starting point is 01:38:00 book coming out or something. So I'm going to be talking to him in the coming months. So be on the lookout for that as well, guys. Oh, thank you, Garrett, for the T-shirt you have. Appreciate it, buddy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, second part of this story. All right. Timberchette is putting his money where his mouth is with how sick he is of things like the official Pentagon UFO office, Arrow. A lot of people are just sick of, you know, everything going on with Arrow. And he has proposed a new bill. I'm going to read this out. Burchett has introduced new legislation aimed at dismantling the Pentagon's UFO investigative body, Arrow. The proposed bill would eliminate the office entirely, redistributing its responsibilities across various branches of the DoD, or DOW, I guess now,
Starting point is 01:38:58 while also prohibiting the creation of any future centralized authority dedicated to UAP. Established in 2022, Arrow was tasked with examining reports of UFOs, but its March 2024 report concluded there was no empirical evidence of any alien technology. Perchette, however, has remained a vocal critic long arguing that federal agencies have engaged in a decades-long cover-ups surrounding UFO encounters and related intelligence, as we just heard in that clip of what he has heard. So what do you think about now it's like in legislation that they're trying to dissolve arrow? I wish I could understand the motivation. Part of me wonders, I go two different ways. One is he's just frustrated, cut them off, shut their money down. Let's use that money differently. I would understand that.
Starting point is 01:39:53 But what that would do is give them time and motivation to hide the ball further or deeper, right? So I'm not sure that's the best plan, but obviously you and I are not in those rooms, understanding all the pieces. But maybe, and this is just a an alternative theory. Maybe he has figured out where the dam is, I guess is the best way to say it, the dam in data that would normally flow through where or who it is in Arrow, but it's stopping it. And he wants to undam it. So I don't know. I think we're going to have to watch this one, see what happens. It could also just be, y'all have ticked me off. I'm done. You know, I don't know. I'm hoping that there's some substance to it and it's not just some emotional reaction.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, I've been pretty vocal about my criticisms of Arrow as well, especially with the past leadership. I think even these congressional members and whatnot can agree that the new leadership at Arrow is better and more open-minded. But you still have this overarching looming like Susan Goff presence, this Darth City. or Darth Sith Lord, I guess, if we're going to go with Star Wars looming over at all. So I don't even know. I don't know. You know, I won't say much more, but I have been in touch with representatives of Arrow
Starting point is 01:41:25 about just opening a dialogue with the UFO community, for sure. And I am speaking to someone at Arrow who works for Arrow, very important person who works at Arrow, very important person who works at Arrow. Not Kozlowski. I don't want that getting out there. I'm not talking to Kozlowski, but I am talking to a very important person who currently works with Arrow
Starting point is 01:41:47 and is working with me to try to come up with a way that we could have a very good, productive civil conversation about what they're doing and, you know, how that's perceived in the UFO community. the end of the day, do they give a crap what the UFO community thinks? No, probably not. But I do
Starting point is 01:42:10 appreciate that this person is even giving me the time of day to be like, look, we know there's things going on that we can't explain. We're trying to explain them. And if we can find those explanations, we will. So, I don't know, I'm torn. But at the end of the day, I think this will be a very productive conversation if it happens. So I don't think there's a downside, Brian. I think you can have this conversation and keep your skepticism just like you do and assess conversation by conversation as it rolls what you think you know i don't see a downside you're not going to allow you or this show to be used um like mark christopher lee was that's not going to happen uh so i think have the conversation maybe it'll be something absolutely i mean what bad can
Starting point is 01:43:02 come from a conversation at the end of the day. So like I I look forward to it hopefully happening and I really hope it does. So I'll keep you guys posted. Me too. I hope so. Yeah. Good. Well, someone else who's kind of putting their money where their mouth is, I guess. Suzanne, who didn't be this lady. Who didn't? Exactly. Yeah, Ryan sets these goals on timing because we are trying to trim it down a little bit so everybody's not up quite so late. But he's talking about the timing this week and I was like oh man bad week for that. I know. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Everybody had something to say about something. I know. Stop making things happen in the UFO community people. We need less to talk about. We need a week off. We need a week off. Yeah, yeah. We did like three live streams this week.
Starting point is 01:43:51 I know. It's crazy. I want to do one this upcoming week. We will. I'm already working on it. I think I got something. You have to come to the watchalongs. We do them impromptu.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Super fun. Go watch the one we just did this week. We did the Kelly Cahill UFO abduction from Australia. So much fun. A couple videos back, guys. Check it out. And I keep it out of my mind. I keep thinking about it. Me too. Yeah, it's sticking with me. And that's a good sign. That's a good sign. I think. Maybe. But let's move to Anna, Paulina Luna. Her and several members of Congress are pushing for the release of 46. classified UAP videos captured by the U.S. military, not summaries or redacted reports, but actual footage of objects that appear to defy known physics.
Starting point is 01:44:44 If released, these videos could far surpass the impact of the Tick-Tac footage that go fast, all those, which alone forced the topic into mainstream attention. 46 videos could dramatically expand the conversation and force a response. So what do you think? What do you think of these 46 videos? Mind you, they are supposed to be released April 14th, just a few days from now. Round the corner. Well, here's what I think.
Starting point is 01:45:11 I think they need to release them, but they also need to release the metadata related to them so that we can get into the guts of them. When I say we, that's not me. I can't do that. But someone, our computer people, can get in the guts of it to see what we're really seeing and what the details of the videos. and tail. I would love that.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Yeah. I agree. You know, I think McWest even put on his Twitter, like, these are the videos they're going to release, and he went through 46 of them, which he could be right. These all could already maybe be out there. They might be the videos that Arrow has, like,
Starting point is 01:45:53 released and already publicized. Or they could be brand new ones. We don't know yet. be longer versions of the ones we've seen. I think everyone can agree like Tick-Tac and Gimble, we do not have the full video, at least those two, maybe more. So, you know, maybe we're just going to get actual full-on start-to-finish video. For sure, there's witnesses of the Tick-Tac event who've seen the videos and have said, that's not the whole video. That's right. That's right. Yeah. We'll see. Do you think that's, those are going to be housed at Alien.gov?
Starting point is 01:46:30 Maybe so or aliens.gov, whichever one they choose to use our government. Why do we have two? You know, why do we have two? I'll tell you why. Why? I think one is going to be UFO alien related and the other will be immigrant related. You think so? I do.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Wow. I do. And do you think they're making them so similar just to enjoy a little confusion? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. This stuff is this stuff. They don't just come up with this.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Right. Like out of thin air. This is all been planned. They bought Alien and Aliens.gov for a reason. I think this is a way to, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why,
Starting point is 01:47:15 but that's what I'm going to hide and watch is what we're going to do. Mike Hunt did it says how the list was obtained and who the classified info was given to needs to be investigated. Yeah, agreed. And where has it been all this time? You know, the lawyer in me wants the history on where it started, where it went, who's had it since, was any editing done. So I think metadata would help with some of that.
Starting point is 01:47:43 A chain of custody? I don't know. Yeah, exactly, exactly. All very good points. All very good points for sure. Okay. Let's move to our final story of the night. A fun one.
Starting point is 01:47:58 Okay. I think to end the night on. We're going to watch the whole video because it's awesome. This story, guys, came over our desks within the past 24 hours. And it is, I love it. This is the kind of stuff that just brings so much joy to my heart. Whether it's authentic or not, I don't know. But this man clearly thinks it is.
Starting point is 01:48:23 He does. Who is this man? That is Gary Arnold, you're seeing on your screen. if you're watching this. And the headline here, Suzanne reads, three-time lottery winner says aliens gave him the winning numbers. So a little bit about Gary in this here before I played the video. Gary Arnold, a Pennsylvania man,
Starting point is 01:48:46 claims that alien beings helped him win the lottery on three separate occasions by communicating to him via electronic voice phenomena or EVP, something I am very familiar with with my ghost hunting investigations. Yep, you too. And he also thinks he's got these communications via visual patterns. He says appear in spectrogram generated images. So in 2022, he scooped $17,500 playing the Pennsylvania Lottery's pick for draw. And then two years later, he won another $27,500.
Starting point is 01:49:27 on the same game, which is crazy. It's incredible. He won another one too, which we'll get to after the video. But he believes that this all came through communications that he's had with what he terms, I'll let him. I'll let him describe it. Okay. We'll run the video.
Starting point is 01:49:49 Should we watch the video? I might stop it even. It's kind of like one of our watchalongs and we'll break it down. It's not that long, guys, I promise. but it's a good length, and I think it'll be fun to cap things off with tonight. Let's go ahead and play this for you. Good old Gary Arnold, what I would give for one of those. Not a big check, but an actual check.
Starting point is 01:50:14 Exactly. That we might not be alone on this earth. Aliens, angels, ghosts, whatever it may be, one Pennsylvania man thinks that he has an idea of what's going on. I'm Grace Miller. I'm a digital content producer here at CBS 21 News, where I recently spoke to an Oxford man named Gary Arnold. He says for the past 10 years, he's been contacted by these alien beings he calls intangibles. I've been able to verify parts of his story, including his lottery wins.
Starting point is 01:50:43 I've seen record of contact between him and some of the people mentioned in the interview. I've even reached out to the CIA to ask about some of these stories, but of course never heard back. Gary lays it all out there. He understands that people might be skeptical and might not immediately believe what he's saying. But that's okay. He just wants everybody to take a look at what he's got, all the evidence, and decide for themselves what might be going on. I call them intangibles. Intangibles. Yeah. Originally, I was like, well, maybe these are ghosts.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Yeah. And then I asked questions to find out the answer to that. And they say they're alien and otherworldly. Worldly. December 2017, all right, the students had gone home. I worked at the University, Lincoln University, and then it's an HBCU. and we had a holiday party right before Christmas. And usually I go to the University Library, which is the Langston Hughes Memorial Library.
Starting point is 01:51:53 And I go to the top floor and I do free reading there. And most of the times during my lunch break to escape the students. But after the little holiday party we had, I went to the top floor of the library. And I thought I was going to read at the time Charles Dickens of Christmas Carol, which actually everybody's seen the TV versions of it and the animated version. But it's really a short story.
Starting point is 01:52:13 So I thought, I can sit down and read this and get kind of in the holiday spirit. And when I was getting ready to do that, and there's nobody in the library except the one librarian on the bottom floor, but I'm at the top. And I get this really strange noise in only my ear. And it sounds crystalline. It's really a high frequency, almost. Have you ever heard bats and stuff flying right? If you have really good hearing, you can actually hear some of the echolocation the bats do. So, and I say it's like insect or a bat, but it was a strange earring.
Starting point is 01:52:43 I've had regular ear ringing from concerts and stuff. So this was totally different. This sounded so strange, and I was only in my right ear. And I thought, what is that? I want to stop it for just the sex isn't. What is that ringing condition people have? Tinitis. That's it.
Starting point is 01:53:01 Yeah, I have that. Do you? Well, how are you going to know if the aliens are trying to give you lottery numbers then? Right? And it's in my right ear. Should I start playing the lottery? Start writing it down, whatever comes to mind. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Oh, my God. This is crazy. This is crazy. All right. Let's keep hearing from Gary. Whoops. Oh, I did it. I really done it now.
Starting point is 01:53:22 Let's see. I'm floor, but I'm at the top. And I get this really strange noise in only my right ear. Okay. And it sounds crystalline. It's really a high frequency, almost. Have you ever heard bats and stuff flying right? If you have really good hearing, you can actually hear some of the echo location the bats do.
Starting point is 01:53:39 So, and I say it's like insect or a bat, but it was a strange. I've had regular ear ringing from concerts and stuff, so this was totally different. This sounded so strange, and I was only in my right ear. And I thought, what is that? And then a thought came into my head, all right, and I'm just about to read a Christmas Carol, and this weird noise is happening, and I have an old track phone. All right, and here's the model. That's Alcatel A205G, which today is known as a burner phone.
Starting point is 01:54:07 All right, a lot of people, it's not a smartphone. It's completely unsmarted or dumb. It only does a couple of things. But it does have a digital voice recorder on it. And I thought to myself, I got this phone in my pocket, $5 at the local right aid. And I was like, wow, I wonder if I could record this strange noise that I'm hearing in only my right ear. So I put it up and I record for a few seconds. And then I was like, okay, upon playback, I thought I was going to hear this maybe squelch or frequency because I couldn't figure it out.
Starting point is 01:54:40 But instead, I hear a whisper. And the whisper says my name. Now, I look around and I'm like, okay, somebody's spoofing, what's going on? Because this is strange. And it says my name says, Mr. Arnold. It's very formal, almost like a student would say to me. And again, I'm kind of like taking aback.
Starting point is 01:55:00 And so what you're able to do is you're able to take the clips from this phone. You can download them. And then there's free open source software online. you could amplify the volume of every MP3 or anything, a wave, you know, wave clip. So, sure enough, when I amplified, my name, Mr. Arnold was loud and clear. Now, I go home after, you know, after this, been very perplexed, and I'm like, well, I'm like, this is a really strange. So I told my wife, I said, you know, this strange experience. Of course, I shared the clip with everybody and family, and I said, this is really strange.
Starting point is 01:55:35 And then I started thinking, what does it mean? And it's because it's very personal. And it's my name. So I said, well, after the break, because we had our holiday break in just a couple weeks, like 10 days. And I thought, is lightning going to strike again? All right? So I went back to the University Library. And sure enough, I asked a question this time because the earring in return.
Starting point is 01:55:59 And when the earringen happens, that's a cue that tells me they want a community. So I'm not always getting this strange. I can't summon them saying, hey, I want to talk right now, because that'd be great. But this time I asked the question, is there anybody there? Upon playback, before I ask the question, which is strange, because as we go down, and I talk more about this, it's customary, our understanding of time is linear,
Starting point is 01:56:26 but they're answering questions most of the time upon playback before I asked the question. And the voice said, yes people. Okay, now I'm thinking, this is so bizarre, am I losing it? I have a clip that says, go to the lottery, Power Bowl. Wow. I'm analyzed, there are these numbers. I played. Now, it didn't give me the jackpot because obviously the million, the millions, but it gave me a substantial win again. And the Pennsylvania lottery, confirm everything. And that's the thing. So I've been trying to bring this back to Earth in the sense, I'm nobody special. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:57:04 why this fell into my lap. Last year, I was on every lottery kiosk and terminal all across the state of Pennsylvania. My ugly mug holding the check. And it's saying, you know, lightning strikes twice and then I'll repeat winner. It's true. The Pennsylvania lottery will confirm my big wins. They will not confirm my technique because they said that is the thing. It's out there. Right. People can, and I say, well, is there a problem with me winning money this way? They said, we've talked about you. And guess what? We consider what you're doing the same as going to see a psychic. We can't tell you not to do that. But the idea is, if you win too much too often, then there's going to be the blowback
Starting point is 01:57:43 where somebody is going to say, you have an unfair advantage, all right? You're winning because you have insider information. The beings claim to be alien, all right, and they claim to be otherworldly. Because I was like, are you spirit? I wanted to go down the whole category. What are you? The beings are here. They're watching all of us, all of us, every day, every night like the one click of this winning number all right this number was one one one all right it's on my youtube channel i'm with my wife we're one of my tropical pigeons the rainbow pigeon which we call sherberts all right so we had him outside and uh showing him some paparazzi thing and filming and upon playback of the film of the pigeon on my on my finger uh there's an evp and i listen to it
Starting point is 01:58:52 It was a little boy sounding voice saying the number to play the lottery. That's creepy. That is. And then there's a voice afterwards that sounds synthetic. So you have this interaction, you have an angelic voice saying one, one, go basically play the lottery. And then you have a voice saying, add salt. And that sounds synthetic. I don't know what add salt means.
Starting point is 01:59:19 But I played the lottery. I timed it in advance that day. I even did screen captures of the time 11-11 in the morning and at evening late afternoon I played the number and that night I won
Starting point is 01:59:34 again this was the second time of winning and I whites there and I'm like oh my goodness this is great and then I went to the FM rated 98 Rock because they had had me on before I guess what I just won the lottery again come on down to the studio
Starting point is 01:59:49 you can't make this stuff up because number one everything I'm saying is independently verifiable. You can go and you can look at my digital footprint. I'm not hiding anything. I bring the big check here from the lottery. The lottery website has my picture, holding the check and won more than once.
Starting point is 02:00:07 I was on every lottery kiosk in Terminal last year because of my success. It's all real. The aliens are real. But they seem to be, the word alien is the right word. I mean, it's so unlike us. I have a goon.
Starting point is 02:00:27 Google Voice account, which is with my Gmail, it's a free phone number. The idea came to me, play the EVP message where the little boys tell you the lottery number to play. Play it into Google Voice and see what happens. Sure enough, it opened up a whole new conversation with these beings. We're talking about whatever they are, and I say intangibles, they're trying to reach you where you are. consistently been told the reason this has been happening to me is because I'm open to it.
Starting point is 02:01:03 That's it. I just want you to weigh the evidence and come to your own conclusions. And I believe that, you know, if you are sincere and open-minded too, you can interact. That's what I'm actually, I'm confident of that. Well, I'm open too, but they're not giving me any numbers. Right. Rude. I know you guys are giving this guy so much guff in the trip.
Starting point is 02:01:29 That was so funny. But I mean, the money speaks for itself three times. Now, I want to stress this third time he won. He was two numbers short of the multi-million dollar jackpot, two numbers. And two years later, he won another. Or, yeah, no, no, no, I'm sorry. This time he only won this last time, the third time, a few hundred dollars. So he just missed the multimillion by a couple numbers.
Starting point is 02:02:01 So either the aliens were messing with him or they were a little bit off. They're just a little bit off or he misheard it. There was a documentary years ago, and it was probably in the 90s, about this couple somewhere in America who kept winning the lotteries in huge, like millions and millions of dollars. And they weren't cheating, but they were working it in a way that hadn't been done before. And I think whatever lottery, whatever lotteries were involved, they ended up having to change how they did it as a result of this couple continually winning. Right. I think there was a movie. Maybe he's found one of those loopholes.
Starting point is 02:02:40 Maybe. Yeah. I mean, I think there was a movie they made about that couple. Yeah, it was. There's a documentary out there, I think. A documentary. Yeah. And I think it was even on like 60 minutes or 48 hours or one of those shows. one of those yeah i think there might have been a fictional movie made too with brian cransston if i'm oh oh correctly um but like that stuff happens all the time look at like these people who crack the the uh what do you call that like the price is right jeopardy like there are these people who have cracked the codes of these game shows and have gone on to like win millions and millions like um but this is interesting now i will say a lot of those EVPs he played back were
Starting point is 02:03:20 insanely subjective as they always are. I was not hearing what he said. But like, again, it almost doesn't matter. It just doesn't. At the end of the day. Like, this dude keeps winning lotteries. If he wants to say it's thanks to aliens,
Starting point is 02:03:40 there you go. There you go. He has just as much right to do that as Chris Bledso has to say that his UFOs are God. I guess on the movie Jerry and the documentary thanks Darren yeah yep yep yep so I don't know I thought it would be a fun way
Starting point is 02:03:59 to end the night and you know what we could judge him all we want all we want guys he's the one rolling around in bed with all that sweet sweet going to the bank that's right so he is literally laughing at you all the way to the bank that's all
Starting point is 02:04:15 that's the way I'll put it all we're laughing over here I wish him well I hope he's right. They continue. He seems like a fun guy. Yeah. For sure. He seems like I would want to hang out with him.
Starting point is 02:04:26 You should have him as a case. Yeah. That's not a bad idea. That is not a bad idea. You'd have to behave in the chat, people. We'd have to behave. We'd have to behave for sure. He seems like a fun guy.
Starting point is 02:04:39 He seems like he could joke around about it. I think he probably can. For sure. If you're going to tell people that aliens are giving you lottery numbers, you're going to have to take a little heat. Yeah. And I think he can take it, at least what I can tell. Well, you know who wasn't joking with me?
Starting point is 02:04:55 Who? Grant LeVoc, who joined me on the podcast, which will be dropping in just a couple hours here, guys, on the main feed. We covered the Westall UFO incident 60 years later. It is the anniversary of the famous Australian case, UFO landing case, where hundreds and hundreds of school children and teachers witnessed a UFO land near a high school in West. stall, which is in Australia. And we, oh my God, Suzanne, it was such a good conversation. And we also included some exclusive interviews with the primary witnesses that Grant was able to get.
Starting point is 02:05:31 He went and interviewed a bunch of the witnesses. So we're going to be playing those for you guys. We got some rare archival footage of James McDonald, the UFO researcher, interviewing the school teacher who came forward and said that he saw this all as well. Awesome conversation. It's available right now on Patreon if you guys want it early. Otherwise, it'll be out in just a few hours on the main feed of the podcast. So be sure to rate review and subscribe there for all of that.
Starting point is 02:05:59 And do I have anything else here? Oh, yeah. Our Kelly Cahill, watch along with you this week. Check that out in the archives as well. That's all there for you guys. But, wow, two hours, nine minutes we've been going. Let's get the heck out of here. It's okay.
Starting point is 02:06:15 That's all right. We did it. We did it, guys. we stayed under two and a half hours at least. I promise we will keep shaving these things down. It is completely my fault. But thank you guys. Thank you for those watching us vertically,
Starting point is 02:06:30 those watching us landscape, those listening in the future on the podcast. We appreciate all of you being here. 650 of you watching live tonight across all platforms. So thank you. Thank you so, so much for that. Thank you to all of our super chat and super stickers one more time and new YouTube member Hut 9999, Constellation,
Starting point is 02:06:52 The Pocket Dog, Michelle, Gareth, and Amanda. And that's it. Thank you so much, guys. Thank you, thank you, thank you for all of that. Suzanne, you got anything coming up before we get out of here? No, no, I'm doing good over here. I hope you are too. And bye to everybody, because I don't think my comments were showing up in the chat.
Starting point is 02:07:14 Oh, we will figure this out. I'm glad to. That's what I'm going to work on. Please, yeah, somebody has to. It's going to say it's almost as enigmatic as James Lakatsky. Story for another time. Exactly. For another time.
Starting point is 02:07:30 Oh, the poll. The poll. Oh, pole. Thank you, Rainey. Thank you. What would it be if I didn't forget the pole? All right. It's in the outline now.
Starting point is 02:07:44 Forget the poll. Remember the poll. Yes. What did I ask? Oh, will Logan Paul show the Chuck Clark UFO video on American Alchemy? Ooh, pretty divided here. 31% said yes, 20% said no. 21% said the what?
Starting point is 02:08:00 28% said no idea. So, wow, it's pretty even across the board. More yeses than knows. You guys are hopeful. I like hearing that. I'm excited to see it for sure. I hope they show it. Yeah, let's either have our minds blown or let's put the,
Starting point is 02:08:17 thing to rest. Agreed completely. For sure, for sure. All right, that's going to do it, guys. Like, subscribe, comment below the video. All that stuff helps us get boosted up in the algorithms. Again, rate and review. Your code word is orb. Put that in your Apple podcast review or your Spotify comments. And yeah, we appreciate everything. You do all of you. The listeners, the viewers, I can no longer talk. So that's a sign that we need to go. Time to get off. We got to get out of here. We got to get out of here.
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