Somewhere in the Skies - National Press Club UAP Event: Full Broadcast and Exclusive Interviews

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

In this special episode of Somewhere in the Skies, we present the full broadcast of a landmark UAP press conference hosted by James Fox at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. Recorded on January 20th, 2026, the briefing features first-hand witnesses, medical experts, government officials, and insiders presenting testimony and evidence related to the 1996 Varginha UFO crash, alleged non-human encounters, and crash-retrieval programs. The episode also includes exclusive post-event interviews with attendees, offering added context, reactions, and insight into a pivotal moment in the ongoing push for transparency and whistleblower protections. Special thanks to Fire in the Cosmos for being our on-site correspondents at the event! Subscribe, support, and follow Fire in the Cosmos: ⁠http://www.youtube.com/@FireInTheCosmos⁠ http://www.patreon.com/c/FireInTheCosmos http://www.instagram.com/fireinthecosmos http://www.facebook.com/FireInTheCosmos Book Ryan on CAMEO at: https://bit.ly/3kwz3DO Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: http://www.buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ PayPal: [e-mail] Substack: https://ryansprague.substack.com/ All Socials and Books: https://linktr.ee/somewhereskiespod Email: [e-mail] SpectreVision Radio: https://www.spectrevision.com/podcasts Opening Theme Song by Septembryo Copyright © 2026 Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. #Varginha #Brazil #UFOs #UAP #UAPDisclosure #NationalPressClub #JamesFox #Disclosure #Whistleblowers #NonHumanIntelligence #CrashRetrievals #SomewhereInTheSkies Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm Ryan Spratt, and you are now somewhere in the skies. Welcome to Somewhere in the Skies. I am your host, Ryan Sprague, and I am coming to you from Osaka, Japan. I have been traveling like a madman the past month or so, and this is my next stop. I'm going to be spending a month in Osaka, Japan, traveling all up and down the north and the south, and every... in between. But that's not what I'm here to talk about today. I am here to talk about the National

Press Club event that James Fox put on on January 20th. I was able to live stream the event on our YouTube channel. However, you were going to hear the entire broadcast of that event today. James Fox was able to compile witnesses that flew to Washington, D.C., and testified before the National Press Club there about the 1996 Bahrainia UFO crash. A lot of new revelations came forward at this event. You are going to see and hear all of them today. We also heard from a former United States Air Force colonel who testified as well that there is documented proof and evidence that a transport from Brazil to the United States

took place concerning a UFO, impossible a UFO. impossible alien beings so many things happened at this event guys i'm so excited for you to hear it i want to give a very special shout out to ross colthart over at news nation they were the basically originators of the broadcast that you're going to hear today many YouTubers many podcasters used their broadcast um and live streamed it as well including us so yeah i want to give a very special thanks to Ross and News Nation as well. Another big special shout-out to James Fox for making this entire thing happen. This is a historic moment, and I cannot wait for you guys to hear this.

And last but not least, at the end of this episode, you're going to hear from our on-site correspondence, and that is Anthony and Chenade over at the Fire in the Cosmos podcast. There is a link in the show notes to their channel. make sure you subscribe, follow, do all that good stuff. Anthony and Chenade were able to interview attendees of the National Press Club event during and after. So you're going to hear some exclusive interviews that they conducted for us somewhere in the skies and for fire in the cosmos as well. So stay tuned after the National Press Club event to this episode and you will hear those interviews as well. That's all I got for you guys.

Enough of me. Go watch, go listen to the National Press Club event. Let us know what you think in the comments on Spotify, on YouTube. Be sure to rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. That truly helps us gain visibility and find new listeners. I cannot thank you enough for doing that. But yeah, in the meantime, enjoy this. Special shout out and Congrats to James Fox and everyone who made this event happen. It was truly a special and historic moment. And you are going to see and hear all of it right now. So I hope you enjoy the National Press Club event concerning the Vahemia UFO crash and so, so much more.

Some people came a very long way to be with us today. Some people got on flights early this morning. Some people drove for many hours in a car. So for everyone who didn't get enough sleep last night or is jet lagged, thank you for your sacrifices. We're very happy that you're here with us today. So my job right now is just like an airline flight attendant to tell you where the emergency exits are and how this is going to go.

So the first thing is that we are going to read some written statements today. I know Q collective I roll, but we're just doing that to set the table. All right, so it'll take us about an hour to move through all of them. The good news is we all read pretty well, so it shouldn't be too torturous. And after the hour is over, you might run a little bit longer than that. We're going to take a 15-minute break, let everyone have a bio break or move around, move your body. And we'll bring you back in for a Q&A. The Q&A will go for an hour as long as it needs to.

And then we can be here together until 5 o'clock. We don't have to feel anxious about the amount of time that we have. We can be chill about it, and we want everybody to have a chance to come up ultimately and meet the presenters here. So know that you'll have plenty of time to do that. What else I'm going to say? I think I just did it all. The QR codes. The QR codes.

So that was, we weren't quite sure when to do that. Rumor had it. QR codes were on the wall, but they're either. All right. And so the QR codes are for the videos. Is that right? Yes, to download the materials. All right, so she just said it.

So we have QR codes on the wall if you want to download the videos later. All right, be good, everybody else okay? Yes, we're ready for this? All right. James, you ready? Ready. Let's make it happen. Yes?

All right. All right, so I'm Corinne. I'm Karen Austin. I'm the managing director at the John Mac Institute and the Center for the Impossible at Rice University. Together with founder, Dr. Jeffrey Kriple and Amanda Foki had a special collections at the Woodson Research Center. we are spearheading a large-scale metadata research initiative to better understand the patterns of human experience related to the phenomenon.

Today, though, I'm here in service to this with all my hearts and love and support. It's a pleasure and an honor to be with you. So with that said, to not bury the lead, this conference addresses the existence of non-human biologics, defined as biological specimens or bodies of a technologically, advanced non-human intelligence. The firsthand witnesses here with us today will describe their personal encounters with live, advanced non-human beings that were discovered in the immediate aftermath of a UFO crash outside Virginia, Brazil in 1996. What happened in Virginia is a part of a larger story, one that has accelerated dramatically here in the United States following the

2017 New York Times article that brought renewed attention to military and countenance. with unidentified aerial phenomenon or UAP. Since then, Congress has held four open hearings on UAP, an unprecedented step, while the Department of Defense has released congressionally mandated reports from its UAP task force. Bipartisan legislation has established new oversight and reporting pathways,

with additional measures still in development. Members of Congress are pressing for greater transparency and whistleblower protections, while highly credible intelligence and defense insiders, and defense insiders, many testifying under oath, reported on deeply classified programs tasked with the recovery of crashed UAP and the preservation of biologics

held with an ultra-secret legacy programs. In light of this momentum, the public's right to know becomes central. Evidence that we are not alone should not be classified. Confirmation of the existence of life beyond Earth, I think we all agree, belongs to every human being. And with thoughts, I'd like to introduce Kirk to help us understand Kirk McConnell, to help us understand what's been happening behind the scenes to bring this ecosystem of secrecy

under congressional oversight. We are honored to welcome Kirk McConnell. Hi. I served for 37 years on the staff of the Senate Armed Services Committee, the Senate Intelligence Committee, and the House Intelligence Committee, retiring from government service almost two years ago. I was among the staff from the Senate Armed Services Committee and the Senate Intelligence Committee, who collaboratively investigated the UAP issue on behalf of the senators from both parties on both committees

after the seminal articles from the New York Times in 2017 that Kahn mentioned and that I'm sure all of you are aware of. As extraordinary as the claim sound of the witnesses that you will be hearing, from today about a crash retrieval and the recovery of non-human beings from Virginia in 1996. Behind the scenes, similar reports have reached senators and staff conducting the investigation that I referred to. Many of you in attendance today were tuning in to this event are familiar with the public statements of now Secretary of State and National Security Advisor Marco Rubio. who has been very outspoken on this matter. As vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee,

he clearly conveyed how seriously he takes these allegations. He and other senators held meetings and interviews in so-called sensitive compartmental intelligence facilities, skiffs, over a period of years with very credible sources reporting both direct and secondhand knowledge of the reality of highly intelligent knowledge, non-human beings. Government retrievals and reverse engineering of craft not made by human beings and the recovery of bodies of non-human beings. These reports alleged hidden government activities

like those you will hear about today stretching across many decades. So what these folks are going to tell you today in person and remotely, are astounding, but they're not the only credible testimony about such events. Thank you. Ambition comes in all shapes and sizes. At First Citizens Bank, we roll with your goals because we're built for what you're building. Fit for your ambition for Citizens Bank. Kirk is actually going to be back later to provide some closing remarks for us. I should also make a note here, we're potentially expecting Representative Burleson. Is that true?

Okay, so there may be a moment where everything pauses and we hiccough and we bring Berluson on stage. So just bear with us if that happens. And hopefully it will. Anyway, thank you, Kirk. We look forward to hearing your closing remarks. Next, I'd like to introduce Dr. Jacques Belay remotely. Unable to attend the event in person, he generously agreed to record a statement for us.

Jacques is a renowned scientific investigator, a cultural icon in this field, and one of its most influential thinkers. Good afternoon. My name is Jacques Vallet. I'm speaking at the request of Mr. James Fox, because a few years ago I initiated the system of multiple databases used by a DIA-sponsored program at Bigelow Aerospace. as a cleared member of the scientific team charged with a study of UFO, UAP phenomenon. The data warehouse system contained data about 260,000 screened reports of anomalous objects in flight, and hundreds of reports of creatures, life or dead,

associated with crashed or landed vehicles of unknown provenance, including some similar to those in Virginia, thus providing useful multinational and historical context. My current research is taking us to deeper levels with new on-site analytical and physical research on historical research on historical cases such as the 1945 case in San Antonio, New Mexico, the 1964 case in Socorro, New Mexico, and the 1965 case in Valenzhou, in France. In those and several others, new physical and environmental data was collected.

The observations involve a total of seven creatures, generally similar in size and the general body shape, to those described by the witnesses in Virginia, Brazil, and by Mr. Fox, providing both context and statistical support for current and future findings. In particular, all the creatures just mentioned breathed air normally. Beyond this, I currently serve in a private capacity on the Scientific Advisory Board of the French Government National Center for Space Studies, CNES.

That unit has actively researched the UFO problems since 1974. including national cases of close encounters with the presence of occupants. A number of which I have also studied on site. It should be clear, however, that I do not represent any of these government organizations in this or any other context. The Virginia incident of 1996 in Brazil, recently, and documented by James Fox fits within cases already known in scientific and medical records,

many of which have remained classified. Relaxing the classification requirements while preserving security of essential facilities such as the nuclear labs would make it possible to inform and enlist the scientific community at a higher level. Action by the executive branch to allow more open exchange would be world-changing.

As a Virginia case proves allowing more open contact at an international level would yield better understanding of the global issues. The current segmentation of the digital issues, of the data hinders any serious research into what appears to be an extraterrestrial phenomenon empowered by advanced artificial intelligence. Open archives do exist to some extent,

describing the physical and biological environment of the crafts and their occupants. Socorro and Valensol, in particular to unclassified cases officially deemed and identified by multiple government agencies have yielded evidence of traces, recovered materials and environmental effects. But we know that much more is available. The Virginia case presents exceptional new knowledge, beyond what was already known.

It improves our information in two fundamental ways. First, in the ability to reconstruct what happened to the craft and its occupants from beginning to end. And second, in the professional description of the anatomical and behavioral features of the live creature recovered by authorities within a short time of the crash and to the point of its death. By this achievement, James Long and Perilous Project has opened up an entirely new field of research. Thank you, Jacques.

perspective, of course, reminds us of the long arc of inquiry that has led us to this very moment. It's now my honor to introduce James Fox, the documentary filmmaker who spearheaded today's event. His work has consistently centered the human experience within some of the world's most provocative UAP cases. James, at 28 years old, completed and sold his first documentary on the UFO subject to discovery communications. Over the years, through films like Out of the Blue, I know what I saw, the phenomenon, the program, and moment of contact. He has consistently centered the human experience with some of the world's most provocative cases. James' most recent work, Moment of Contact New Revelations, returns to the 1996 Virginia Brazil event, often described as one of the most

compelling multiple live non-human beings of advanced intelligence. For over two decades, he and his team have chased down the facts and witnesses to the incident. He's been deeply committed to documenting their accounts with respect and to preserve their voices for future generations. Ladies and gentlemen, James Fox. Thank you, Karin. And welcome, everyone. Thank you so much for being here.

And it was a colossal undertaking to the gentlemen from Brazil here. I said I had to walk on water and move mountains, that would be a huge understatement. So thank you everyone for being here and for all your efforts. Just informed that Congressman Burleson has just arrived. I don't know how long he's going to stay with us, but I'm hoping there he is.

Welcome, Congressman. Thank you so much. We also have a sitting member of the Senate, Senator Gerald from Brazil who's standing here. Can you stand up please? Yep, he's here. Yeah. So we will be introducing, Congressman Burleson,

would you like to give a quick statement now? Would you like to wait till a little bit later? Come on up, please. I'll finish mine afterwards. Excellent. Thank you so much, Congressman. So my work is taking me around the world investigating some extraordinary allegations

allegations of UFO encounters now referred to as UAP unidentified anomalous phenomena. But what brings us here together today is what I consider and many others the most compelling case in modern history, the farm just outside the city of Virginia, Brazil. Several days later, on January 20th, three girls outside the city, ages 14, 16, and 21 came within a few steps of an otherworldly creature, cowering in broad daylight against a wall in a vacant lot. Over time, it was revealed that the Brazilian fire department and military police captured two non-human beings on that same day.

According to multiple Brazilian government officials, the crash debris and non-human beings, likely one still living, were flown out of Brazil within days by U.S. Air Force and presumably remain in the possession of a secret U.S. government classified research program. More and more witnesses are coming forward because courage is infectious and their strength in numbers. This investigation is far from over. We are encouraging a coalition between officials from the U.S. and Brazil to acquire additional records including potential video and photographic evidence of this case. I believe in this case because this could settle the debate

once and for all that we're not alone. I'm very grateful to our Brazilian witnesses taking the time to come all this way to be here with us today, as I said earlier. We had to move mountains and walk on water. The Brazilian statements will be translated by Eleni Classes, who's right here across and co-produced a new kind of moment of contact and was instrumental in making this this conference happen thank you I'm going to mention Carlos DeSosa who's here as well was initial crash witness which took years to track him down yeah he gave he gave he gave he gave one brief statement in 1996 to a researcher named Claudio Coveau and then he vanished for the better part of 26 years

And I remember we were going to include a segment in the phenomenon, a film I did. And at the end of the day, we were like, we got to find more witnesses to, we scrapped the whole idea and ended up making a movie. But we found him. And a year or two later, we got him to come forward and share his story. It's one of the earliest civilian witnesses to the events surrounding the Virginia crash. He's a former businessman, a longtime geography teacher, and an experienced ultralight pilot. Carlos made one public statement that said earlier and then he vanished. So we're very grateful to have Carlos here with us today.

Carlos, please. Check, check, check. Check, one, two, check. Good day, sir, and, sir. A great pleasure to start talking today with you. Good day, ladies and gentlemen. It is a pleasure to speak with you today. I'm going to a little nervousism that.

I'm going to be a bit of me. I'm a bit nervous. This movie of the scene just plays in my head all the time. I've seen a Kedda from a nave non-terrest in the year of 1996 on the day 13th of January. I witnessed the crash of a non-terrestrial craft on January 13, 1996. I'd voyage from San Paulo to the city of Three Caresorses. And during this percurs, I opened. I was pared rapidly in the crossament, and in this moment, she was the roadovié Fernand-Dia's the case,

and because I would have a a encounter of ultra-leve, that I was reclaimed from the pilot, then I would encounter those amids. I was en route from San Paulo to the city of Three Coraes via Fernand-Diaz Highway in Minas Gerais for an ultra-light pilot's gathering By doing?

All to do a brief parada, I haveisteed an object that, for me, in that moment, in format of charuto, not was nothing to rest. It was simply a, a directive, because at that was in a

sorry, in format of chariotto, and I was in a And I observed that he was in aburus. When I made a brief stop near Varginia, I looked skyward. I spotted a cigar-shaped object which seemed distressed. Initially, I assumed it was a blimp common at the time over soccer fields for broadcasts. It released white smoke while losing altitude.

Initially, as I've said, I thought, I thought it was an irigible. In the time, it was very common about the campers of football in Brazil to do the football in Brazil to do make the transmissions of the partitions. So, he'd say from a formation very black and he was doing a little curve

and I observed that in his lateral, he had a rasgo of the half back and he was rapidly turning altitude. He released white smoke

while losing altitude. He made a slur slight turn that revealed a lateral tear from the middle to the back. It was clearly having problems. Logo I thought,

I'm a pilot, that the occupants would start in grave problems, because only who is pilot knows the despero that does despair that you are in a nav with problems, or in an aeronave with problems.

I'm entered in my vehicle rapidly and I started to accompany him, the trapeze of the parabrisa, to your local of your

quayda. In the hope, in the reality, to help who was there

only a pilot would know the difficulty of seeing a craft in trouble so he quickly realized that

the occupants could be in deep trouble. I got in my car and followed its trajectory towards the crash site, hoping to be able to help. When I was trying to the local of the Kedda,

I stunned in the initial, because the expected was a share of combustible with kerosene, but there was a cheery of ammonia and ovo-podry, very different, that ardea much my eyes, so I'd be able to my eyes, so I'd subed the camisorne, to be able to breathe,

that I didn't continue. The part of the nave of this object, that in the case, for me, it was an directive and was encosted on a arvo. And the other, the other, the backer, were various of the destroys.

When I got there, I smelled a foul odor like ammonia with rotten eggs, burning my eyes. Half the craft remained intact by a tree and the debris of the back part was scattered everywhere. In this moment,

rapidly, ...chegovar vehicles... Multiple army vehicles arrived promptly. ...nese moment... ...he was in the middle of these trocusses, where there was... ...and these fragments, I... ...I... I left and pegged one, I got it,

...and I observed that it was very light, ...and there was a piece of any... ...are it was a paper aluminum. ...that those... the opalumina, very thin and amaze me. At all soltallu, because I took a

bigontas, he went to the format normal. My God, what is this? At that point, I was in the middle of the wreckage, and I picked up a lightweight fragment resembling aluminum foil.

I crumpled it in my hand, but when I let go, it instantly resumed its shape. In this exact moment, a soldier in the exercer, the more precise, in Brazil,

came in my direction with a rifle and he said, and he said, go and go, and what he gave the impact and took

of me, this fragment, okay? And I responded to him, no, I don't go, there's people who can't

there's a lot, machucada, that to me at that moment, not do you know, he was going to go. He went to go. He said, no, no, no go. He gave a past past, he left your arm, engadled to him, he pointed to me, I'm not to pedling, I'm going to I'm going, I'm going to open your head in the middle if you were going to go. A soldier approached fast and hit me in the chest with his rifle, so I was forced to drop the metal

I was holding. He shouted, leave now. I replied, no. People in there need help. He aimed his gun in my head and said, I am not requesting it is an order. Leave now or I'll split your skull. I'm immediately, treming, morrowing in me without understanding nothing. And I was very scared, much astounded, very scared and confused. I was going to I'd have to do

immediately that didn't have to know I don't I didn't I didn't I didn't and I'm comingy

to a post of gasoline because I said I'm going to take a coffee and me calm to

that all that was that's my head my head my head

sorry sorry sorry um I'm Discoopening me. And for me,

for I was, I'll pour, to get a coffee, to me to recompore. In the few minutes,

and five minutes in maximum, there was a car a car an opala, the car of the

old, and a dark, quite preto, with two men, well,

vestiges, elegants, terns, black, shirt, arms, Oculus' discurses, desksed, and came to my encounter.

Okay. I left the area and stopped at the first gas station to compose myself. A few minutes later, a very dark blue near black vehicle pulled up. Two suited men got out and approached me. Okay. One of them came in my direction and me called by my name. He said the name of my wife, the name of my and a new and a new and a new, and I'm,

pointing the end up to me, and he asked, I asked for him, saying if I was the Carlos Sos, if I was this, and he, and I pointed him to him, and I asked him, who is you? Not you? He responded, free and simply, you, you don't see nothing, you

know doesn't know or you will be serious problems the rest

of your life. One of these men approached him and called him by name

stating his address naming wife and business and he asked who are you and this man threatened

you saw nothing you know nothing or you will have problems for the rest of your

life partier rapidly, in this moment, I I picked a paper, to put a nap, and to limp, with a pen,

to an anot to the vehicle, because for me, who were, those people, to say, they were the

, so when when I came, the door, to say, he said, I was talking that the

car had a plaque, no, there was there, they simply parted. They departed

swiftly, I grabbed the napkin to write down the license plate, but there wasn't one. Imploro

to all the presentes here. Sorry. 30 years criticalized and judged by the society.

Sorry. Not us abandon again. Permitom that the truth get aton. I have

the courage and say the fact to for us. I don't I'm a loco. Nobody is

a loco here. There's a family with any one. For favor,

say the truth that they know the authorities. So, I'm thank you.

I implore the authorities and people present after 30 years of ridicule and

societal judgment do not abandon us again. Allow the truth to

emerge. summon the courage to this close it thank you very much that's a very very powerful speak it's quite profound to hear someone speaking so directly about a first-hand evidence like that I want to say that I want to say that I want to say that we tracked him down specifically my team Marco Lael in Brazil and begged and pleaded with him to come forward after silence of 26 years he's never asked for a dime he's not trying to sell anything like wow um thank you Carlos thank you Carlos we have a colossal effort to get six additional firsthand witnesses here in fact we hired an immigration lawyer we

reached out to congress in burleson's office he was very happy to help uh implement getting their visas approved. He was working diligently his office. He put it on one of his best people. And unfortunately, six visas were denied. So we rushed back just a couple of weeks ago, Alini and myself covert mission, went back to Brazil with the help of the local government

and got access to an official building with a podium and flags and we recorded statements from all those that had their visas denied. So that's the story behind why we're presenting it. They wanted to be here in person. They tried everything to be in her person. We worked on it for the better part of nine months.

And again, I'll remind you the QR code allows you to download free of access, use it anywhere you want. Right there by the doors. There's another one by those doors. It'll give you full access to all the videos you're about to see. And I ask you to please spread them far and wide. They're all yours. They're everybody's.

So we're going to, without further ado, We're going to show you six additional statements from first-hand witnesses right now that we're unable to be here. Thank you. I'm sure what I will say is simply the truth, and nothing more than what is the truth. My name is Fabio Furtado. In January of 1996, I and my friend who were in a Fasenna,

we were in three-coracons, we've seen an object, a vooderm, not identified. An object that not was normal for the time, a thing that we never had seen, He did movements with any

type of curve subed and he didceau did a Z in the air and he went to the front of

our farm that we we were and we're we're we were cylindrical was the

time about the time more or minus the movement that he did repeat this even in the days

atuels at the aeronazes technologies we have that we have that we That object did a pose, and on the day

next I went there to conferry and saw an amarerable on the ground. There I had that certainty, perception, that that object not was of this moment. I'm sure that I'm going to say here now, is the truth, only the truth. My name is Liliana and Silva. I have 46 years.

I'm a professor in the education infantive. On Saturday, 20th of January, of 1996, at more or at 3.20, I, Balkyria, and Katia when I'm to work,

I'm observing on the moor a fissation where in the back of this fissue of a travi of football

I've I've vests a creature a stature a back with the eyes vermil,

the pale brown as if had been passed a oil some some

veas that was that was to the back and

when the people that I saw I've seen a feeling I've seen

a thing that's a minute were minutes more minutes that

passed a minute in the time when I said, I'm I'm

and that the creature looked to me I looked in the

eyes of her and passed a sensation that she she was

suffering that she had had been asking she was she

was she those minutes that I I entered in panic, I didn't know what I did,

I said, I said, I said, I'm going to go ahead in the front of them, in the way

the case. The meninas looked to her and had the same impression, each one of a lot of

a lot of a lot of a lot of my house. I'm saying the truth, nothing

the truth, I'm Katja Chavuer, one of three testimony, the case Varjin,

I of a creature, was the 20th of January, of 1996. I, Liliana, and Valchir. We were together, passing on this terrain. We've seen as car to

practically with a thing very strange, airstresterterrestrial. And, so, he made a lot of the world. He was marron of the eyes

vermil, with a pale olios, a head great, with three three fingers in a hand, a foot,

and that That was really my life, transformed my life. And me passed about that was suffering in that place, that was to be able to me. I could have to me to make, looking for him and trying to get a more. So I'd just go to the direction of him,

like, I'm going to help him. No, I don't think, so, in consequence. I'm going to this, this creature, this person. When I went to do to take this attitude, the Lillianne, he went, and it got on my breast and me pushed. where I was where I was completely,

but then it was just not was that Cate. It was totally different. Because, because,

I mean, transformed, me, made it with, like, with sequels of that, poche,

why not did I do that? Pocha, for you got him, for I have said, they,

they, did what they did what did they, so, so, it's got to

this because I think this creature with me at all moment, to where I

go. So, I always I'll say in January has 30 years the story and I never

made any a syllable and never will because this is my reality. You said this place was

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When you want savings, not surprises. It matters where you stay. Hilton, for the stay. I'm sure what I will tell now is the truth. Nothing more than the truth. I'm a valkyria. I'm one of the testimonials of the day 20th of January of 1996, where I, my sister Lillianne, and our friend Katia,

when we were going and we were going and we saw we're seeing a creature. A creature different, that we don't

know what was what was a sustodora. When I looked to the eyes of her I felt with very

fear, the same that we got a sustata, she also was what she was what she was in

the look to look to be marron of the blue, had brillo in the

body, as if had been the And that day marked our life for ever. I'm sure to say the truth.

Nothing more than the truth. My name is Louise Elena of the Silva. I'm the two

men who saw the two the same hour. I went to the local the Katz Choran't

much, I came to there, I came a pegada. There was the grama and the begada of the dead of his dead.

So three-ded, very long-completed, so the only thing that I could have been, I had submitted there. It's the share of that place that was a very, much,

time, on 20, 25 days, no mass, if I don't me forgets, in my nose. So, then,

then, of the thing that the men have this see this and I received in

my house four men that I never had seen in my life.

It was four men vestido of black and they was just

entering and was doing a proposal to me if I would

accept that that that the money opened a mall in my front

said that we'd get a millionaire for the rest of the life. It's a little bit. I never had seen in

my life. It was a maleta so in this time. And one that had the other

just looked. I have impression that they had a language. Just one that said.

And he said that was much money that we'd get a rica that I had to go back

from here. But they'd If I'd if I'd say if I'd If I'd an emissora, on a TV I'd

reunie the men and mean Tiro That's example An example that he gave That's minors A-Veyr

A chero A cheroero A-o-o-o-o-o-ent I'm a I'm very Assededed with this I'm

I'm I'm I'd be to himbor Daly I'm with very fear

of him so I I think I don't could be I don't could be and I'm not

see that the men who are not being that's the thing is it's just that I have to say that

I'm going to say is the exception more correct of the fact

my name N.E. Nadia I'm a generalist, I'm director of the TV Princess, where I've worked

since that time. In January, of 1996, in the day 20, I was working, and, I was going to say, I was saying, I was saying, the avistamement in the city.

I went to verigua this avistament. I was impeded by the soldiers of AESA, that not they didn't, that I'd subists

to the local, because, for being the city, I know where the things happen. I wanted the thing and I wanted to see. I'd have the car, desi, I'd say, and I said,

that I don't could pass. I questioner, because, the issue of security national. But I'm my liberty to go and see. You have to be.

Well, this happened. After, there were people who did people who did a visitment. I was I was in the hospital regional, because I was thinking that there were movement

ation, viewed as in polvorosa, but not over what, and the most important that I forgot I said to say, in that I was close to the local of the facts, I would hear a barul of people

in the mata, like he was like, and two phrases me marked. Serca, circle, the other responded, it is liso, is liso.

These things were in my mind for a good time. I made two journalists for a interview

a question that would be in AESA for they were they were putting panos-quaint

to say that, ah, no, it was a a carmion

that was I had to instructs the reports. I asked I'm

I'm about what what was if you insisted in this issue, you're going to be present, you know, I mean, there was a process of acovertment

and that, alias, it would be able to be it. For a while, that many people, like I, have relattos equal to this, but that even today,

have been a cap and to say what happened. I'm going to say the truth of the truth, I'm a military,

the exest of the era of the time of 1996, where it occurred a fact, it's a virginia.

Participed in the transport and also the visualization of the terrestrial, where I

did the transport, but first before to transport this, I entered in the

door, in the second door of hospital, where I visited with a sea,

and posteriorly came the relash of that was simply with a terrestrial.

With this, I did the transport of him of Vardina for three of three cautions, to three corporations to Campinas, where I left the viatura and others militaries assumed. And, posteriorly, going, and returning to return to three fourctions, there was a report that the Americans had, just, after this is transporting it to a local, ignored, a local that I don't see.

Wow, this is compelling. It was a very important. only the truth. My name is Marta. My name is Marta Militaine, Mark E. Cherey, who in 1996, came to obit, participated in the capture of the ETA. My brother had 23 years at the E. It was a military of the P2. I'm with conviction that many of the

people, I love the case to be fantastic and not it. It's a case very serious. Really, my brother participated in the capture of the ETA and came to a obit. The cause indefinite, until is now indefinite. But we'll

explain this. Pust, what cost. I'll pass the time that pass, nothing that's

I'd like, that's people, that would be and would be and say, but I'm saying the truth,

I've I've got a part in which not will be restored never more. I

want to the government, the authorities, would be what really happened

or why that's so they're I know I know that there's people who don't want to understand

but I believe that many of the people the majority will understand this case I'm here

waiting a response of the society of the population who can't

say of some some who I want I I'm I'm

I'm I'm we're and we come to come with concudence

with firmness, with declaration explicit, simply simply, for more than it that it's true that it's true, that she's said. Why hide it? Why hide it indeed? That's very compelling evidence. James has done some fantastic work. It feels like we should just take a moment of silence.

That's a lot. I think we can all hear and feel that everyone here and here is telling the truth. to the best of their ability from their heart. As I regain my composure here, our next Brazilian witness brings an essential perspective to one of the most difficult and still unresolved aspects of the Virginia case,

the sudden and tragic death of a healthy 23-year-old military police officer Marco Cherez, who with the help of fellow officer Eric Lolfes, captured one of the live beings with his bare, our hands. Within weeks, he developed a severe bacterial infection that would ultimately prove fatal. Dr. Armando, the forensic specialist who conducted Cherez's autopsy, is a highly respected physician with a law degree who works primarily in forensic medicine. Over more than three decades, with the menace get-eis civil police, he served as a forensic pathologist, criminal medical examiner,

critical medical examiner. I'm seeing in some of my notes here that I finished at 3 a.m. The obvious results that I was finishing at 3 a.m. He also served as the president of the Medical Association and municipal secretary of health in Virginia. He is here with us today to discuss his knowledge of the case. After a moment. Good day. Declare what I'm saying the truth and that no can't have any conflict of interest. personal or of other nature. Good day.

I hear by state that I am telling the truth and that I have no conflict of interest, personal or otherwise. I was designated to realize autopsia in the corps of the soldier of 23 years, Mark E. Chereens,

whose death, inesperated, led the commandant of the Police Military of Minnes Gerais to solicit a solicitor a investigation for suspect of a error professional. I was assigned to perform the autopsy on the body of the 23-year-old soldier, Mark Elisherese, whose unexpected death led the commander of the military police of the state of Minnes Gerais

to request an investigation on suspicion of professional error. Causole straneza that a young soldier, soundable, had mourned in decorrence of an abscess in region axiilar. It was considered unusual that a young, healthy soldier would die as a result of what appeared to be a simple abscess in the underarm area.

Realize a autopsy and encamined fragments of organs and amostas of the same to my colleague the renowned medical pathologist Dr. John Battista Makuku Janini for evaluations

laboratory and majores discolecements. I sent organ fragments and blood samples to my colleague, the renowned pathologist Dr. Joan Battista Janini

for laboratory assessment and further clarification. Was observed a a cicatrice recent in the region axillary-skirts, decorrent of a drainage cirrugic and a lesion infecisiosa. A recent scar was observed in the left underarm underarm region as a result from a surgical

drainage of an infectious lesion. The patient fellacy was a few days after, as apeas to have been evaluated and treated by other

medics with doses elevated of anti-inflammatories and of antibiotics the patient died a few days later despite having been evaluated and treated

by other physicians with high doses of anti-inflammatory medications and antibiotics how was treated a bacteria altaminted

and multirisistent, the infection evolved rapidly, spalding by the body, resulting in shock septic and the death of the

young soldier. As the infection was caused by a highly virulent and multi-drug-resistant bacterium, it progressed rapidly, spreading throughout the body and resulting in septic shock.

eventually leading to the death of the young soldier. Infailessment, the medical pathologist, Dr. Janine, not could participate in this our event by the age advanced, but he made question to elaborate a declaration for a script, that was translated to English to be presented to all of you

today, in this data so important, in this conference. Unfortunately, the pathologist, Dr. Janini was unable to attend our event due to his advanced age, but he prepared a written statement that was carefully translated to present to you today.

We'll invite Matthews over to the stage to read the statement for you guys. Most honorable ladies and gentlemen distinguished authorities, scientists, and representatives of the institutions gathered here. My name is Juan Janini. I am a professor and doctor with specialization in anatomic pathology. I worked professionally for 60 years, during which I performed more than 50,000 autopsies, conducted over one million microscopic analysis and served as a preceptor

to more than 200 postgraduate students. I carried out academic activities at three higher education institutions, Fluminense Federal University, the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro, and the University of Brasilia, where I held the position of associate professor, In the southern region of Mena Jeraes, I founded the Institute for Prevention and Diagnosis,

I developed and implemented programs focused on cancer prevention. The excess granted to me was limited exclusively to tissue fragments collected during the autopsy of the body of soldier Marco Elie Cherese. Subsequently, I received circumstantial reports presented by gentlemen euphologists who requested a review of the previously mentioned material. Based on these reports, I prepared my conclusions focusing exclusively on the identification and analysis of the bacterium responsible for the infection that affected the soja. This bacterium proved to be a microbial agent of extremely high aggressiveness and lethality.

Given its characteristics, I understand that it goes beyond the limits of a conventional infection, possibly presenting itself as a highly specialized mechanism of aggression and defense, which raises the hypothesis of its alien origin. We are currently awaiting the necessary legal procedures for the exhumation of the body, with the expectation that advanced studies in molecular biology may provide new evidence regarding its mechanisms of aggressiveness, corroborating the hypothesis that it is an organism of extraterrestrial origin. If confirmed, such a finding would represent an equivocal. proof of the existence of extraterrestrial life implying a profound global reformulation of our

philosophical understanding of existence January the 8th 2026 Virginia Dr. J. Janini The critical proof of the existence of E.T. lives. Doesn't get better than that. Thank you. Dr. Mr. Armando, we have the distinct honor of, as I've announced earlier, Senator Juval, who's here, and we thought we would offer him a quick opportunity to say something, if you'd like, take a few minute break, and then we're going to present Dr. Italo, who allegedly had face-to-face contact with the creature, tell up some level of communication for three to four minutes after we take a short little break. So, Senator, if you'd like to come up and say a little brief word we're we're happy to have you here thank you so much good morning my

English it's not so good so I would like to Alini will help me it's a one one a honor to be received the convict your James Foxx for us to start us here today it's a great honor to have received the invitation from James Fox to be here today I don't win in name of the Senate of Brazil I did not come representing the Brazilian Senate. Since I was little, I've been curious about this subject. So I did question of view here, with paying the my bolso.

So I made sure to come here on my own account. Trasendos, bringing friends like Colonel Geron Gomez. Bringing friends such as the Colonel Geron Gomez. that is a journalist independent, very respected independent journalist in Brazil. To share with you here this moment historical moment. I'm from Sierra.

I'm from Sierra, a state of Brazil. In the north of Brazil. And in the north of Brazil. And there, we've had, we've seen a brilliant writer, called Raquel Dekeyreys. We have a brilliant author-writer there called Raquel Dikeiros.

She was She wrote monthly in the revist the most important of Brazil. She wrote monthly to the most important magazine in Brazil. And, he broke a paradigm

writing, on an article about an abistam in Kishadah that is in my state. And she broke the paradigm

by writing about this UFO case in Qaeda with 20 testimonies confirmed. With 20 witnesses confirming it. We've seen another case in Brazil, that's very emblematic, too.

There's another puzzling case in Brazil also. That's called Operation Prato. Operation Plate. That the Force Air Force, identified in various

states of Brazil of Brazil, in several states over Brazil, on the same evening, various objects, vooders, not identified. Many UFO or UAPs. But the case more symbolic and that more repercute

in the world, the most symbolic case and the one of the most repercussion in the world, is the case. There is a virginia case. A great humanist Brazilian of Minergeras

also. There is a great Brazilian humanist also from the state of Minnesota. A pacifist considered by

the people Brazilian, as the mineerer the that was born in Minnesota? A pacifist

considered by Brazilians, considered what? It is considered as the Brazilian of

the great Brazilian of all times, the specialist. Chico Chavezhaer. He did a documentary, Jane, that was made in relation to his fall of the data limit of Chico Chavier. He made a documentary talking about

the limit date of Chico Chavez. Not he did, he did a documentary that is open. They made a documentary about him. And he says that with 50 years after the woman to get in the Lua, and he said that 50 years after man has reached the moon,

if we don't tithes us a third war if we didn't have the third world war, the world would shortly come to know. a contact more more close with beings from other planets. A closer contact with beings from other planets. I want to thank you, Jamie,

for your courage. He wants to congratulate James for his courage. I want to say, too two convidates who were to the Senate of Brazil. He wants to also congratulate

two guests that came to the Brazilian Senate. that we did we did three years ago an event world in the

Senate of Brazil about the 75 years of of olfology. They did a 70-year

the euphology celebration event the detective abusentado of the police

federal the police English Gary Hesseltime retired detective of the

English police and Robert Lambert Salas, commandant of the Reserve of the Existo American and

Pesquisitor of the U.S. Army and UFO researcher. It was a event with a presence of pesquizers, uphologists. It was a great event

with researchers. In Brazil. And to end to finish. These Brazilians here, who are with me, has much courage.

These Brazilians up here with me are very courageous. Not is fast to try this issue in Brazil that exists the judgment and is understood

for many people as as Chakota. It's not easy to deal with the subject matter in Brazil. There's a lot of

ridicule and a lot of fun folk at these people. And we live a moment today, gravissim, political in Brazil.

And we are in a dire political moment in Brazil also. To castada a liberty of expression. Where they're hunting down freedom of expression. With more of many prisoners. With more than a thousand political prisoners.

And to talk of this issue today also needs to have much courage. And to speak about this today also requires a lot of courage. I do I do a appeal to the authorities American, that, for ventura, stay here. He makes an appeal to the

American authorities that may be here today. That can't have some elements of this case of Varginia possibly have taken to the States. That they can

bring some of the elements of the Varginia case to the United States. That can share with us I will be at disposition that they may share that with us

that he will be available and cobriere transparency also to the government and he will also require transparency from the Brazilian government

for that the truth triumph so that the truth may triumph very much James Fox has done a

formidably good job in putting these witnesses together this is is extraordinary evidence. As the pathologist who read the statement conveyed, this is the opportunity for absolutely carte blanche evidence. All right.

This has gone on a little longer than we thought, but that happens. And so I can feel the tension in the room. People need to squiggle and move around for a few minutes. So why don't we actually take the 15-minute break now? A couple minutes. Ten, ten, negotiate. women need a few minutes.

So I just wanted to say, yeah, we have three speakers left, right? We have Dr. Itilo and Colonel Klausen and what's your name, Kirk? And then I don't know, Reverend Berluson, I'm concerned about your timing. Do you need to leave soon? You're okay. All right, fantastic. All right, 10 minutes. We'll see you back.

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All right. Our next Brazilian witness brings an essential perspective to one of the most difficult and still unresolved aspects of Virginia case. The sudden and tragic, oh, no, wrong person. I told you 3 a.m. There's not enough coffee. We love you, Karen. Thank you.

All right. Final Brazilian witness, Dr. Ipelo. No, wait, wait, wait. It's a physician specializing in neurology and neurosurgery with nearly five decades of experience in both clinical care and specialized neurological procedures. He is currently the leading neurosurgeon at regional hospital. He maintains a private practice.

and is also involved in healthcare management through his medical services company. For the first time in a public setting, we are honored to hear directly from Dr. Itolo, who will describe his face-to-face interaction with a captured living being of advanced non-human intelligence. The parent survivor of the Virginia crash. His experience represents one of the most significant developments

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features and network management details. I've goted a great secret for 29 years, dividing this issue with some colleagues medical, apesar of others

have known to the case. I held on to a very big secret for 29 years, sharing it only with a few medical colleagues, even though many others knew what I knew.

In 2023, I revealed to the team of James Fox that had seen a video where there was a creature that not was human. In 2023, I revealed to James Fox and his team that had seen a video of a non-human creature in the hospital

on January 20, 1996. After to have suffered a attack cardiac, quasi-fatal, in 2024, I created courage to divide more details of my experience, despite of the

preoccupations with the possible impact in my career. After suffering, a near-fatal heart attack in 2024, I felt

compelled to share more details of my experience despite previous concern about consequences for my career. In that

time of 1996, I was working in the hospital regional of Varginia, When a colleague my, called Marcus Vincius, with a camera very

great, me called in a cell of urgency to see a patient. That afternoon in 1996, I was working at Virginia Regional Hospital when my colleague and fellow neurosurgeon

Marcus Vinicio Nevy urgently called me into an improvised intensive care room. He was carrying a large video camera. When I entered in a cell, me mostro a camera in in preto and brown,

that was a a child deitada in a camera with a hydrocephalia extreme. Upon entering, he showed me a black and white video on the camera screen that appeared to be a child lying in bed with an extreme case of hydrocephalus. I asked,

what is this? he he appointed to a camera where he was a person

I me I came and I was he was immediately I was

he was human I asked what is this he pointed past the makeshift partition

where a being was lying I got closer the moment I looked at the being I immediately knew it

was not human I looked to him and first, with a perspective medical. He was breathing well, without difficulty,

it was not not start with a door, conscientious, not was sangraning, it was a semblance

much calm and tranquil. I first examined it with a medical perspective, breathing well, no apparent pain, conscious,

no bleeding. It seemed fine with a calm and serene expression. It was a little a little bit of seven years,

a lens covered, until here in the body, to the back the back the

eyes were lilac well like the cranium. It looked like a seven-year-old

child with a sheet covering up to its waist its eyes were lilac and teardrop

shaped the cranium was also tear-drop shaped the The skin was black

the brazos very fine three deados with the polygar

oppositor not had mammil and a boca little the

skin was white the arms were very thin and the hand

had three fingers and an opposing thumb it had no

nipples in a tiny mouth he he looked to

the cell of a door to me He looked at me, then looked at the blue sky through the window as if longing to be there, then looked back at me.

And the impression that I took in this second trocad of look at look at me, was that he had complete conscience of what was happening at his and of our intention to help him. After that, I sensed it was fully aware of what was happening around it, and our intention to. to help. Sinty that he was

appreciated for the care, that I felt it was grateful for the care

and wanted to leave. A your serenity and the presence imponent

me were to believe to think I was in a presence

of a level of a level and high

power presence led me to believe it had a very high

level of intelligence and perception higher than human beings. Yes. It seemed a angel, with a comprehension and compassion in your eye,

siente of that we were doing the better that we could be for him, apesar of our limitations. It seemed like an angel with understanding and compassion in its gaze, aware that, despite our limitations, we were doing the best.

we could for it. I'm here perante your presence with nothing to gain, everything to do you,

not I'm don't want to paying the money. I stand before you with nothing

to gain and everything to lose. I am not selling anything or asking for money. I'm

I'm still I'm work as a neuro-cirugion. I'm here because particularly for the

new generations, they They are much more, other than our existence human. I'm a testimony. Thanks. I still work as a neurosurgeon, and I am here because everyone, especially the younger generations,

deserve to know there is much more beyond human existence. And I am eyewitness to the proof. Thank you. Thank you. The simple humanity of these people shine through. They're telling the truth. It's very powerful. What courage this doctor and the other witnesses are shown. I just hope they get the response they deserve. We, Marco Leale, myself and our team, Alini, we got, we have somebody, we'll give too many details, but it's a mole in one of

the hospitals. Several years ago there, this is, and we, we have somebody, we'll give too many details, but it's a mole in one of the hospitals. this is we meet no phones extremely paranoid and uh this is the person you need to go talk to i would if i were you i'd go you know it's like this person saw the video how do you know because i'm friends with the doctor he you know so we went after etelo he did not come after us and we were trying to find the video because obviously that's the most that's the holy grail anybody out there thinks that I'm not giving it everything I've got. If I sat there and told you all the efforts to get a hold of the photographic evidence, we'd be here until tomorrow.

We found Hito, and I jokingly describe him as trying to grab a bar of soap in the bathtub. It was like he would kind of respond. He seemed like he was conflicted, and then he would not get back to us. And then finally he agreed to meet with Marco Leal and do a Zoom call. I think it was like 2023. And I was just fixated on the very. video. So I was asking him over the video with interpreter Marco Leale, you know, did you see the video? And now I've adopted the nickname, oh my God, because when I found out when he confessed to having

seen the video, I was like, oh my God, where is it? Who shot it? You know? So we were like, all right, we're going back to Brazil. We're going to meet with the two forensic pathologists because that was a huge development. And now we had a potential lead to get our hands in the video. But we kept trying to get a hold of him over the next year and then he had a heart attack after he admitted the video but he wasn't willing to go anything further at that point that was the video was as far as he was willing to go he had a heart attack he said he was staring at the ICU the ceiling and thinking i can't take this to the grave if i get through this i'm i'm going to meet with james's team and i'm going to reveal all so in twenty twenty five in january

We went back to Brazil. We were meeting with Dr. Armando and Dr. Janini, and we were talking about the autopsy and the tissue samples. Oh, and by the way, Dr. Armando, could you get a hold of, you know, of course, he's one of the most well-connected people within the medical community. Could you get a hold of Dr. Ittolo? Oh, yeah, which at his phone? Dr. It's speaking and he says, meet him around the backside of the hospital tomorrow morning.

The backside. So our team, you're not going to ask any questions. We're on the backside. He sneaks us in the back of the hospital down through the various series of corridors and then right into the ICU. And that's when he decided to drop the bomb. And he did. And it got us all off guard.

So I just want to say, Dr. Itelow, it takes tremendous courage for someone who's got so much to lose and nothing to gain. He's not making a dime. He's not selling a book. He's not trying to sell a documentary. He's still working on people's brains. So I know that courage is infectious, and it's strength in numbers.

Today, it marks the 30th anniversary of this incident. We're going back to Brazil in a couple of days, meeting with the mayor. We're going to be giving presentations. So if anyone out there is listening to this, it's involved certainly on the American side, particularly on the Brazilian side. if you're ever thinking about coming forward, now's the time.

We have a couple of closing statements that are very significant. I was contacted it anonymously by a gentleman who happens to be sitting right over here right after I did a big Joe Rogan appearance on this case when the first version of moment of contact was released. This guy was really smart. I get contacted by people all the time. But he was like, yeah, this is where you look and the flight logs and this. Because, you know, there was people coming forward in the Brazilian side saying, Yeah, I saw the USAP flight come in.

So finally, after like three months, anonymous correspondents, I said, excuse me, who are you? And he's like, oh, I'm actually a retired United States Air Force colonel. And I'm also a fighter pilot, and I had a pretty dramatic UFO encounter back in 1980, which coincidentally was covered up. Oh, okay, that explains it. So he eventually came forward to share. publicly his UFO encounter. But today he's here to talk about something I feel is extremely significant,

and that is this potential flight that came in from the United States of America in January of 1996. So without further ado, Colonel Klausen, thank you so much for being here today. Here we go. My name is Fred Klausen. I'm a retired U.S. Air Force, Bird Colonel, and fighter pilot. I have more than 4,000 hours of flying time in the F-15, the F-4, and I flew combat missions in the F-105 during Vietnam conflict. I was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross twice and held a top-secret SCI clearance. While flying the F-15, I intercepted a UFO. I took gun camera film, which was immediately confiscated. But that's another story for another time.

Today, I am speaking on another matter, a matter that requires world attention. According to several Brazilian authorities, including air traffic controller Marcos Ferreira, on or about the 20th of January, 1996, a U.S. Air Force cargo plane, most likely a C-17, took off from a base in the U.S., and it flew secretly into Brazilian airspace without flight clearance from Brazilian government and it landed at Viteracopos Airport in Capinas. While at Capinas, witnesses talked about loading an unusual cargo, then departing to an unknown location in the United States. If true, I am certain that 30 to 40 Americans had direct knowledge of this flight and its purpose. I will now walk you through a potential paper trail this mission could have left behind.

In order to secure a cargo plane, a specific protocol must be adhered to. The tasking would be sent to Air Mobility Command at Scott Air Force Base, Illinois, who has command authority over all U.S. Air Force Carborder. cargo aircraft and refueling tankers. A paper trail has begun. Air Mobility Command transmits a mission order to the Air Mobility Wing at Charleston Air Force Base, South Carolina. Another paper trail. At Charleston, a crew is selected for the mission, and a C-17 cargo aircraft is.

made ready. The distance from Charleston to Capinas Brazil is roughly 4,500 miles. The unrefueled range of a C-17 is about 2,500 miles. Therefore, air refueling by KC-135 would be required. More people in the know and another paper trail. An international flight plan to Brazil is required, even if the mission is classified. Paper trail. On board the C-17 is a minimum crew of a pilot, co-pilot, and loadmaster. But due to the nature of the mission, probably more. Maybe CIA and a general officer.

The C-17 lands at Capinas and must be refueled. Who pays for the fuel? And where's the receipt? Before departing Capinas, another international flight plan must be filed. Again, more paper trail. The C-17 flies back to the United States with tanker support and lands at an undisclosed... location. As you can see from this possible scenario, I estimate that at least 30 to 40 Americans

have direct knowledge of this mission. So here's my plea today. If you were a participant and have knowledge of the mission, come forward. You're probably retired now in your 70s. maybe a little older like me, and have language for 30 years with this knowledge, come forward. We know this mission happened, and you know it too. Come forward. The time is now. Thank you. Wow. What a stand-up guy for Tosven. And he's absolutely right. There will be witnesses.

Thank you, Colonel. Thank you, Colonel. It was because of Colonel Coulogne that we actually, our team, filed a FOIA request. And that FOIA request is in the latest cut of the film, New Revelations, Moment of Contact, New Revelations. And interestingly enough, we filed it in 2022. We got a response back three years later.

And it was from the CIA. It was like essentially, you know, because of the 1949 National Security Act, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Your request is denied. We can neither confirm nor, you know, just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So this is why I'm hoping certain members of Congress might consider using their strength to see what you can dig up. That was for you and the rest of you guys. That's why we did this. So we need help, okay?

We have one final statement from Kirk. Thank you, Kirk, by the way, about whistleblower protection and specific legislation that he's worked on. So without further ado, Kirk, welcome to the podium for the final statement. And then afterwards, Congressman Burleson is going to give a little statement.

Thank you. James asked me to put something together today in response in a way to, a segment of his recent film. During, as you'll see if you watch his recent film, you'll see that aerospace engineer, Dr. Eric Davis, one of the nation's most respected experts on UAP programs, including classified programs,

stated on camera that because of his national, his non-disclosure agreements, NDAs, Because of the obligations of his NDAs, he believes that he cannot share further information with Congress about legacy UAP programs without explicit authorization from the executive branch. Eric is not alone in this belief. Many actual and potential UAP whistleblowers

have the same understanding of what the law and regulations require of them or prohibit them from doing. So this question of what executive branch employees and contractors are legally permitted to disclose to Congress is actually complex. And it's not so easy to summarize the entire issue of the problems that whistleblowers face in this short segment. But I'm going to try to at least give you an idea of what's

at stake and what's involved. Equally complex and far more consequential for individuals is what can happen to those who do choose to report wrongdoing in classified programs that have been deliberately withheld from Congress. I want to outline several key points because Congress and the American people need to hear directly from more people with firsthand knowledge of legacy UAP programs. And right now, we're consistently informed. There are many who do want to come forward, who believe Congress and the public have a right to know, but who are deterred by doing so, deterred from doing so by fear.

Fear rooted in impartially, at least, misunderstanding. of the law and partly also in the very real examples and experiences of retaliation to people who have come forward. Potential whistleblowers worry about prosecution for violating NDAs, as I've mentioned. They worry about the loss that are fearful of the loss of their security clearances, the loss of their employment, and other forms of retaliation that are very difficult and costly to challenge, even where formal avenues of appeal exist. It is true that protections for whistleblowers,

particularly those handling classified national security information, are often weak in practice, despite the fact that there are laws and regulations ostensibly, while they were passed and enacted to protect whistleblowers. Sources who possess information about U.S. government, UAP activities or who have witnessed UAP events have consistently reported threats to their livelihood and even their personal safety. Harassment in some cases has been severe.

It is publicly known, for example, that figures like David Grush and Lou Alizando, who have not disclosed even firsthand information about legacy programs, have faced clear retaliation. However, and this point cannot be emphasized strongly enough, whistleblowers very likely do not need to fear prosecution for providing classified information about legacy programs to Congress, provided that they do so through secure channels. That is to say, you don't just tell them in a foyer of a Capitol Hill building, you need to arrange to be in a sensitive compartment and information facility. skiff. Okay, so what I mean to say is that laws and regulations are very clear on this point. NDAs prohibit sharing classified information with unauthorized individuals.

But Congress is by statute and regulations an authorized recipient of classified information. NDAs cannot legally be used to withhold classified programs or associated wrongdoing from congressional oversight. This is explicit in law and regulation. Furthermore, the executive branch is required by law to report all special access and compartment of programs to Congress, regardless of their sensitivity. Failure to comply with these laws is unlawful and unconstitutional. certainly in the view of Congress. NDAs cannot be used as a shield to evade these obligations.

Now, presidents have claimed, in quotes, plenary Article 2 authority over sensitive national security information. Plenary, if you look at up in the dictionary, means total, unfettered, unlimited, and so on. But this is an inferred power, not an explicit constitutional grant. That is, you don't see language in the Constitution that states this. Congress holds equally strong Article I authorities,

entitling it to the information it needs to legislate. I'm confident personally that the government would lose any serious legal challenge asserting that Congress is not authorized to receive sensitive classified information covered by executive branch nondisclosure means. In reality, for the reason cited, although officials may threaten prosecution, as far as I can tell and those other colleagues that I've worked with on this, no one has ever been prosecuted for providing classified information to Congress. Such a prosecution would require showing harm to national security, a claim nearly impossible to sustain when the disclosure is made to Congress itself. For these reasons, I believe the government would not pursue legal actions against whistleblowers who provide protected UAP disclosures to Congress in a secure setting.

Judges, Congress, and the American people would not tolerate prosecuting individuals for revealing truths that demonstrate Congress has been misled, has been lied to, about issues of profound importance. But the fear of such actions, this Alice in Wonderland dynamic, remains a powerful deterrent and it must be addressed. So what can be done? There is, in fact, a straightforward solution. With the stroke of a pen and a public statement, even a social media post, the president could explicitly affirm that federal law allows protected disclosures to Congress because Congress is an authorized recipient of classified information covered by NDAs. It could be that simple. If the president or his cabinet members will not make this clear, then Congress should.

In addition, congressional committees already possess the authority to grant immunity in exchange for testimony. That is to say, NDA's aside, if you appear in front of a congressional committee that has offered you immunity for your testimony, you cannot be prosecuted for doing so. However, even if the threat of prosecution is largely a bluff, other forms of retaliation are real and damaging. These include the fabrication or exaggeration of allegations of security violations for individuals, leading to indefinite clearance investigations or revocations. manufactured claims of misconduct were poor performance to justify termination of employment

black marks placed in security files preventing future employment reassignment isolation marginalization or hostile work environments administrative leave placing individuals on administrative leave with or without pay for contractors sudden quote changes to government requirements that

simply eliminate their position and their job. And if an individual must take another job during an appeals process, simply to survive financially because it takes months and months and months to grind through these appeals processes, simply to survive financially, they may be forced to take another job. Well, if you take another job, you lose standing to pursue your case, typically. Whistleblowers can face financial ruin, as you can see, especially as legal expenses accumulate. Congress must address this fundamental problem and incentivize potential whistleblowers to come forward

by establishing a rapid, assured mechanism to compensate them for lost wages and expenses. Some may ask, understandably, why UAP whistleblowers deserve special consideration over other whistleblowers. The answer to me is straightforward. The stakes are extremely high when it comes to this topic. Few would dispute that the discovery of non-human intelligence visiting Earth would be an event of profound significance. The executive branch appears determined to keep this information secret at the highest levels, making this a major policy decision. One that could place officials assigned to protect whistleblowers, such as inspecting,

sectors general in direct conflict with senior policy makers. These factors distinguish UAP-related disclosures from typical cases of fraud, waste, and abuse. Congress may need to take a more active role, even than I've suggested so far, in protecting these individuals, potentially by creating and administering a dedicated restitution fund and modifying current law to allow whistleblowers to go directly to Congress without first filing a complaint with an inspector with an inspector general. That concludes by removal. Bonjour, compadre. It's the price line negotiator.

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The app let you filter hotels by neighborhood. vibe, star level, and amenities like pools and spas and beach fronts. Wait, I'm not done. Stop cutting me up. Thank you. Thank you, Kirk. It's a complex issue. People just go, well, why don't they just come forward?

It's so easy. It's actually not. So just trying to create an environment to enable people that do want to come forward, firsthand metal benders, people that are working in the labs. And I think it's important for the not just the public to understand, but making the plea to members of Congress, the stakes are so high because I'm convinced, obviously I can't prove it right now,

that they're hiding definitive proof that we're not alone. And I understand the need for potential national security-related issues on the technology. It falls into the wrong hands, you know, and they weaponize it. Okay, I understand that. Maybe there's the acknowledgement that we have it. But the biologics, to me, that doesn't pose a national security threat. So why can't we release information on the biologics?

Now, we have a closing statement. Then we're going to open up the floor to Q&A. We have the space all day. And then eventually we'll open it right up. So if you guys want to directly interact with the witnesses, they'll be here for that. But without further ado, I'd love to invite Representative Bertelsen on stage to say if you. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you, Mr. James Fox.

It's an honor to be with you today. Look, shortly after the film by Oliver Stone was released about the assassination of JFK, Congress took action and passed the JFK Disclosure Act unanimously. They wouldn't have done that had it not been for an outcry from the public that was demanding answers. And it's my hope that your film and others like it will create that kind of momentum and that outcry. Because the truth is, if there's any government that's holding information about the knowledge of whether or not we are alone or not alone in the universe, that is not for any government, no matter how powerful it is to withhold from the rest of humanity. We are here to serve the people. This government belongs to you.

You don't belong to the government. And never forget that. And so I'm here to serve you to try to get the truth to the people. We're working diligently to do that in the committee that I'm on. And I have a responsibility in that regard. I want to say thank you to these courageous individuals, my new friends from Brazil. Thank you.

Thank you for your courage. And your willingness to risk your reputations and your careers for something that will benefit not just people of Brazil, but the rest of the world. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your courage, to riskar your reputation, for something that will beneficia, not so the Brazilian, but the world entire. I want to say thank you to Kirk McConnell. He and others have been doing an amazing job at pushing this forward in a thoughtful way, helping people like me. I was a financial advisor and a software.

Sultan had no idea when I ran for Congress that I would be doing this. But folks like him have been extremely helpful and I couldn't do it without you. And Colonel, I can't wait to get to know you more. Thank you so much for coming forward today. You're an inspiration for for the rest of those who have served. You know, courage is contagious and you're an inspiration and hopefully you'll you'll compel more people to come forward. Appreciate that. We have, we've been given marching orders. We have legislation that we need to pass. We, you know, we've seen, we've heard from a lot of witnesses, it's time for action. And it's time to get the receipts. So it's time to pass the UAP Disclosure Act. And it's time to pass whistleblower protection within that or a separate act.

But I go back to my original statement. The reason why so much information is currently, today being released consistently that the agencies of this federal government never wanted to see the light of day is because Congress took action because the people demanded it. And I'm asking you, everyone here and all the reporters here and Leslie Keene, thank you for the brave work that you did with the report in 2017. You destigmatized that one story destigmatized this entire topic and made it so that people could come forward. We need more people like Leslie Keen. We need reporters that are brave,

that are willing to publish stories, and we need the social media warriors out there to continue to spread that information. Act and push on members of Congress, because otherwise they won't do anything about it. Thank you again, and I'm proud to serve. Very interesting message from Eric Burleson, that the public need to let Congress know they care about this issue.

That's fundamental. The wheel that squeaks gets the grease in politics. If you don't stand up and tell your politicians that you're concerned about this, nothing's going to happen. All right. As I come back into my body. So this is the Q&A period. Congratulations.

We've all survived it. a few notes. First of all, treat this like it's your house now, mostly. No feet up on the sofa, but, you know, take care of your biological needs as you need to. So you can feel free to come and go. Like you said, we'll keep reiterating. We have time. So don't feel anxious about the questions.

We'll get to them. You're going to treat me like ATC, so you're looking for my attention. And if you feel like I've missed you a couple times, you can start waving and shouting my name softly, nicely. Ground rule that I would like to kind of just set before everybody. We know we have a lot of different individuals in this community who represent all manner of experiences on the spectrum, whether it's citing or other kinds of direct contact experiences. We just ask that when you're asking your questions today, that you keep it focused on the Virginia case

and on the witnesses and presenters that are here today. We know that there's a lot of exciting topics to unpack, and we can certainly do that later when we're not in the Q&A period. But right now, let's make the most of the time that we have for the guests who are here. Agreed? Yes, agreed. Okay. All right.

So now just the mechanics of how this is going to work. We have mics here so that you can direct your questions, you know, say who the questions for, and then we'll allow that person to answer. We obviously have an interpreter, Amini, here to help. And two more interpreters who can help if we need that. We'll have, I think, two mics to pass around. We have one and one, two, got it. So we have two mics.

And I'm going to hang out here with you guys until we get through to the end. After that, again, you can come up and say hi to us and we can hang out here until five o'clock. There's a clock up there or on your phones or whatever. Okay. We feel ready. We're game. Yeah, all right, are you caught your, is that a question?

Are you, like, oh, yes. All right. So we're first question right here just because he caught my eye. And say your name. Oh, one more thing. We're looking for questions, not stories, right? So if you guys start to have a long preamble, I'm going to gently but firmly interrupt you

and invite you to wrap it up and get to your point with love. Thank you. Hex Nottingham from North of Virginia. I have a question for James and one for Barlison, if I may. James, are you any closer to getting the video of the Varsinia case and the orange UFO that looked alive that you spoke about before? Well, for the first time, we have names of those that were in possession of it. So if that's closer, then yes, we are.

But there are forces, powers that be out there that we're just trying to see who can get there faster. So, yeah. And I never give up. Case in point, I heard about the Calvin UFO photograph that was taken in 1990 from the former Ministry of Defense, Nick Pope. And I thank God to David Clark, but I never let that go. And eventually, I think it was what, the better part of 30 years, perhaps more. Yeah, 33 years, I think it was.

And then we eventually covered that in the program. But to give you an idea, like, I don't. I don't just give up. I'll keep going until I either die or I find it. So that's it. All right, so I'm going to go back and forth here. So I saw Whitley, but then I'll come here, and then we'll just ping pong back and forth.

I see you guys in the back. So I'll come to you next. Okay, my name is Whitley Streber, and I have a question. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks very much. I have a question from the Soul Foundation discussion thread for Colonel Klaus.

It is that one would think if there is a secret crash retrieval program that those people in airplanes operate outside of normal procedures, therefore there's unlikely to be a paper trail there. What about the possibility of finding a paper trail in the countries where they may have landed, such as Brazil, to refuel? Thank you, Mr. Spriever. You have the American Embassy in Brazil and connected with American Emissi is a position called the Defense Satesé. His job is a liaison with the Brazilian military and he is supposed to know everything

that is happening in the country of Brazil related to Brazilian military. military. He probably knew the day that the UFO crashed. He probably knew of the blockade, and was probably aware of the United States' intense desire to come in, collect the wreckage, and the ET bodies. There has to be a paper trail at the embassy. There has to be a connection from the embassy who works for the state department to relate this information to state and the Pentagon. That would have been done by some kind of written transmission. So I believe paper trail starts there.

Not only with the air crew flying the C-17, which even if it's a secret mission, they have to file an international flight plan, That's on file somewhere. The Air Force has archives at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama. Washington, D.C. you have archives where the FAA would keep all their archive records. So one day, if I stay young, I'm going to go on that search.

Thank you. Yep. Thank you. I'm Dr. Enrico Melson. I'm interested in specifically the question is regarding the micro bacteria. I'm a former epidemiologist with the CDC Epidemic Intelligence Service was my training. So I am curious if there is any more information that could be offered here regarding this possible identification of a a micro-bacterium of extraterrestrial origin.

That would be two issues, not only a gross full-size specimen, but also extraterrestrial microorganisms. This would raise the question potentially of environmental contamination, exposure, possibly epidemic. Was there any further detail available to you as the pathologist that you could share with us as to how that possibility was handled? Thank you.

Pena that Dr. John Battista, Makuk, Janini, not stay here present with us. It's unfortunate that Dr. Janini is not here present with us today. I was the medical legist of the case and not a medical pathologist

he was the forensic doctor that was responsible for the case not the

pathologist he came a for me to be examined autopsiated

with suspect of error professional the body arrived to him

for autopsy with suspicion of professional error days

days after 15 20 days after He came a laudo of Dr. Janine, saying the backeteer that was encountered, that the laud is here with me.

15 or 20 days later, the report came from the analysis to him talking about the bacteria. We have copies here. And that's available for anyone. If you scan the QR codes, you get not only the videos that we showed, but also some of these documents,

the Portuguese version and the English version. The Macetaria, in the case, it exists in the planet Earth, but it's extremely a little

common this bacteria actually exists on planet Earth but it's not very common the infection for the

humans it's not very common for human beings to be infected by this bacteria and he

he understands that Dr. Janina he's it would be necessary perhaps if even possible

to make some some some the rest mortals And Dr. Janini would love to actually exhume the body of the soldier to try to find traces of this bacteria in the bones. To see,

to get authorization of the familyaries and the justice, uh, local. If we managed to get approval from the family and the local authorities to do so. To do so. To do the DNA, this bacteria, to understand better, this virulence,

pathogenicity of this bacteria, which is a little common in our environment. So we can try to better understand the behavior in nature of this bacteria that's not very common in our environment.

The perito not create and can't create nor believe. But the Dr. Janini aventa the possibility. The Dr. Janini talks about the possibility.

Because Because Because of the circumstances that we were made aware of years later How was said here personally In the gravation by the Irman of the soldier that we saw in the video earlier That he had had captured this extraterrestrial that he would have captured this extraterrestrial with his bare hands.

That maybe he had inoculated this bacteria, a backeteer, a backeteer, in this soldier, and provoked this infection that evolved in a manner very rapid, in a manner, a soldier, a fort, young, that had a infection of difficult control for medics, competent, in our city. Perhaps then the officer was inoculated by this bacteria, and despite all care that he received,

he did not resist, because it was a very strong one. We're not, I'd say also, that I was peritto-criminal, along to be a medic, legist. As doctors?

Yes, I was a perit-criminal of the police civil in the state of Minnesota in Minnesota. He was a doctor with the police before he went into being a forensic pathologist, so he really knows what he's talking about.

And I'll leave a challenge, to the people of the press and scientists, American, and scientists Brazilian, and he'll leave this challenge to the press and to the scientists. As I said personally American, it's this month. It would be interesting.

Stud those residues this nave that was tuted by a colleague Carlos, by my friend Carlos, that I knew this week. It would be interesting to research and to find ways to look for the residue at the crash site of the materials.

The local where she had had been in the soil, on the pavement, the fashenda, the earth, there are residues metalics of this navies. If at the farm,

which is the location of the crash site, if there would be any residue of this ship and this crash. And this needs to do studies of auto-technology, a partnership of the United and Brazil. And that will require a highly technological effort,

probably a partnership between the U.S. When Professor Carlos, you say this metal that you open, and it's a new newity for us. I never

had been thinking about this material that crumpled in his hand and took back its original shape. He's never heard something like

that before. Now, the point of a medical would be the DNA of this bacteria. And from the

medical perspective it would be the exhuming of the body to study any possible vestiges of this bacteria in

the DNA. Thank you. Thank you. Pobaragha. Yes, yes. All right. On this side, anybody over here? Yep.

Thank you all so much for being here for your courage and for speaking your truth. This question is for Dr. Italo. Dr. Italo, have you had any sort of contact with any non-human intelligence, whether it's an alien or an angel, since your contact experience in Virginia 30 years ago. And if so, what was that like? Can you give us some details? If not, thank you anyway. Okay.

Since the moment that I entered that intensive care room, it was something unexpected to me. I was something unexpected to me because I was expecting to be. I was expecting to see a patient. Even when we see patients humans, many times we get interested in

what happened with the patients. I, at least, more than I'm at a hospital, I'll walk, even not standing implantar, I'll go back the patients are going to see how they're doing. Even when we have human patients,

we're always curious to see how they're doing. So he lives nearby the hospital, and even when it's not his shift, he will come back around to the hospital to check on his patient. This is important for us, to see we're the development, if we're we're making, we're trying to

for that we're trying to make the evolution of the patients and how they're getting better because you're very interested in seeing them get through your sicknesses. In the case of this, mentally, I walk to there all day. And on this case, mentally, he goes back

to their room every day. I'm going, this night I I was a dreamt. Is it? The potaceo of his his past night, he actually dreamed about the potassium levels of this being in the room. It's a thought. I don't have a contact telepathic communication.

It's just a thought. I don't have telepathic communication. It's a thought. But it's always that I pass in that cell, it's that I want to examine him. It's a thought. But for him, every time he walks past that room, he wants to go in and examine this being.

It's not It's not It's just With the There's There's There's kids We're in

They're in the Mentioned It looks Some people Some people Some patients It seems It's like

It's always How much It's better And in the case of him I work I work On the

Where I see He's I'm in the He's right He's in He's in He's in He's

Not only with this case But when He operates On Children For example There's Certain

Pations that he feels more affinity with. So with this one, because he works on the room right next to the room where the being was, that's a constant thing in his mind. Yes. So to answer the question that he asked, it sounds like you haven't had further contacts with any other beings since that moment.

No, no. No, no, no, because he did, and he chose to go more into describing what that being was. Thank you. be it. Obaragato. White shirt. Yeah, hi, I'm Max Wallianzky. Also a question to the doctor, Italo. I watched the movie. I watched your interview, which you gave on YouTube, and of course, thank you very much for everything you told us today. However, it's very interesting. besides of looking at the patient, not a human being,

what kind of medical procedures or what else, actually what kind of interaction did you have, any x-rays, anything else? If you can talk more and a little deeper about your interaction in that room. I think from the movie, James, I think from the movie, I remember that some episode about this being present in X-ray room as well. Yeah, that was from a different testimony from an X-ray gentleman who wanted to remain anonymous.

We had actually identified him five years before we ultimately got him to come forward anonymously. He provided all the details needed to verify who he was, but he didn't want his name. But yes, he took X-rays of what one would think was a disarrant. deceased being. Right. So can we know a little bit more, a little bit deeper about this medical examination? What actually did you do besides of communicating with him telepathically and just looking at him and observing him? Thank you. What else can be done? Thank you. Was done. I'm sorry. When I entered, I saw a video. When I entered the room, I saw the video.

a material of a little surgery. That was materials next to the being showing that

there was a small surgery that was performed. It looks that the doctor stitched up the being.

Nothing too long or too big. When I looked at the being, he was turned to the window.

He was more facing the window. And we were trained to look on the point of visita medical perspective.

If he was conscientious, if it had pain, you were sangrando, if it was bleeding, if he was agitated. Initially, no, I looked. But then he, he, he pared to look at me, he looked at the janela. And initially everything was okay, but then this being stopped looking at him and looked at the window.

And then went back to looking at him. And then went back to looking at him. second moment, I just not was there just as a doctor. And in that second moment, he wasn't there just as a doctor anymore. I was looking

he, from the point of view, of the point of view of other abilities psychics, cognitive. He was looking at him with other psychic and cognitive capabilities. If he was really understanding,

if he was attentive, if he was focused. If he was really, he was understanding what was happening, if there was orientation temporal

spatial that we were really understanding in the temporal spatial awareness

of the place. And not there was there was a contact medical, there a contact

so much between I and the self and I perceived that he had a

intelligence much great and the way it was the contact

between two beings and for him it was very interesting and it showed a lot of

intelligence from the way the being looked at everything. Not when you conversed with a person with one, a person converser with you, look to you, look at you, they get distracted, they look around. He looked for me.

The being was looking straight at him. And I procured me concentrate to be, as today we talk in psychology, my husband always talks about this, to live that moment. And he was looking to, as we say, to live in that moment. In psychology in Brazil,

we call us to practice presence. So, I'm looking for him and as much more I looked at, I saw, I saw, I saw, a sense how the senator said, a sense of peace, right? So the more he looked

at the being, the more he felt a feeling of peace. Dunding a message. I don't want to to appear here a discourse

political, nothing of this but it was a look a look

because the Occidental he look to you know and

do you look with judgment alto low, bad, is it tall

is it short is it fat is it slim there there there

had a look he was looking everything was a looking

at everything that was happening Like if he was an notting all the data,

doing a way, as if it was taking in all the notes of everything that was around it. Yeah,

like a great observer. Like a great observer. Like a great observer. Like a great observator of everything

that was happening around it, not only even looking just to me, he was seeing all around. Despite looking at

just him, this being was aware of everything that was around it. So as you asked, the first was the part of medic, see that material. So as you asked, in the beginning, it was the medical assessment.

The material, but after he was he was turned to the window and he looked at the window and looked back at him, it felt like the page flipped. We went into a other situation. Then it became another situation. I have to interrupt this for a

second a gentleman here that has to be acknowledged. Camillo, can somebody get this gentleman a microphone? He's at the back over by the exit. I want you to say just one word without his support, financial support, this event would not have happened. Thank you for being here, my man, thank you. Please, just say a quick word. No, no, thanks, everyone.

I'm a very big supporter of James on the cause and disclosure. I mean, I really, it's all up for you guys. Thank you. Thank you so much for believing in us. Thank you, Camilo. You have glasses. I see you. Microphone.

It's coming. Please stand by. Thank you. My name is Thomas Earhart. Is Representative Burleson still here? He left. No, no, no. He's in the hallway out there talking to somebody.

Oh. Okay. But he's not here to answer your question. He's been gone for a while. He's in the hallway. Yeah. So maybe I'll try to catch up with him personally, but to the gentleman who might be aware,

the American gentleman may be able to answer this. We as Americans all know how divisive and distracted Congress is, especially with this very brief attention span. We're focused on something and then on to the next. What's the reality of a real roadmap? to bipartisan disclosure. Where are we currently as far as the temperature, the appetite, and where do we need to be

to have it become a reality? Go get your mic. Yeah, I'm reluctant to try to speak for Congress. My former colleagues and bosses, wouldn't appreciate me opining about such patterns. Staff are supposed to be neither seen nor heard. We're anonymous people. So I'll just make a few comments of a completely personal nature

and not necessarily claiming any special insight, especially two years after I retired. I do think that this issue is bipartisan in nature. It has been that it has been that way since I started getting involved in the matter eight years ago. At the same time, there are nuances. I think that on the Democratic side, there's a tendency to to look at this as another in a long series of conspiracy theories that that there's this sort of defies belief and that that they might feel like they're the

party that needs to that needs to stick to proven science and and and and and therefore to be skeptical about this story. You know, the Democrats are more inclined towards believing in the reality of climate change and the efficacy of vaccines, let's say. And they claim the mantle of science regarding those issues. I think that they therefore are a little more reluctant to embrace this reality. I think that they also are looking to the academic community

to pass judgment on this. And to date, the stigma around this issue has certainly dominated what you hear from and see from academia. So that's a that's a, a little bit of a difference in opinion. The other thing I would say is that we're not yet at what I would call the tipping point for most members of Congress in terms of hard evidence for the reality of this. I personally think that if people had the time and took the trouble to

read everything that really is out there. After eight years, I read a lot, but I'm still scratching the surface, that I think there's plenty of evidence to support the belief in the reality of this. But we haven't reached that point with members yet, and hence there's a feeling on Capitol Hill that more witnesses, call them whistleblowers,

with direct firsthand knowledge, that more of them are needed to give Congress the conviction that there's a reality here that needs to be investigated in the most serious way. Such as the Watergate hearings, Iran-Contra, the Church Pike committees about the excesses of intelligence agencies, the FBI back in the 70s.

Those, that kind of serious investigation, Congress has not, obviously, not yet reached that tipping point. Yeah, well, I would defer to the real expert who has an election certificate to answer your question. He's gonna say he just gave him the mind. So I was just called out of the hot, so is a question, was it about

bipartisan efforts, how that would work? What's the best case scenario? Correct. The focus, because obviously we as Americans all know that the focus is so detached based on the issue of the day. What is the current temperature of Congress towards the reality of pushing it to the level that you spoke about, making it a serious issue that a large majority of Americans, back as opposed to just a fringe issue, what's going to give it steam for bipartisan support?

Yeah. So I think that this topic is bipartisan. It's strangely, like you have myself, I'm one of the most conservative members of Congress. And then I'm working with Moskowitz, who is certainly not a conservative. And on this topic, you have a lot of, you have a lot of, Democrats that I'm working with to try to try to get this disclosure done. One Democrat, and he hasn't come up publicly that he's that he's an advocate for this topic yet. So I'm not going to out him, if you will. But he has been extremely helpful in getting other committee chairman to sign off on

four corners agreements to try to get the previously to get the, the, the, UAP Disclosure Act language added to the National Defense Authorization Act. And so, you know, I have to have somebody that's a Democrat that's an advocate to try to get the ranking members on the Democratic side to approve or at least not reject that language being added. And so that's kind of where it stands. Honestly, I don't see that we have a problem Republican versus Democrat. It's more of a gatekeepers who are connected to the intelligence community who seem to be. often in leadership, in one way, shape, or form, whether it's, you know, top, like the leadership that you think of, or it's someone that's in a committee chairmanship role, or their staff.

What I've learned about Washington, D.C., that's disturbing is that staff tend to run the show, and particularly, and I'm not, I mean, I won't pull punches here in a Senate when you have a lot of people that are that probably are one step away from a retirement home and they and one wonders how how do they possibly run their office well they're not the ones running the office the staff run the office so that's that's kind of the situation that we're facing it's that you've got a very difficult time identifying who the real you know who the real obstacle is so that's why it's going to take momentum and political pressure so that we can overcome that. Thank you.

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Hey guys, welcome back. This is Anthony here from Fire in the Cosmos. I'm here with Chenade and we are reporting also on behalf of somewhere in the skies. And we're here with a very good friend of ours, Dr. Marina Wheeler from the Division of Perceptual Studies at UVA where she is a neuroscientist who studies various side phenomena, especially out of body experiences. and Marina happens to be Brazilian and actually went to university around the area in Virginia where this all happened. So we wanted to get her take on it and I'll let Chenade take it off. Thanks, Anthony. So Marina, let's just pick it up exactly from where we just were because you were talking about the difference in temperature essentially for the UFO topic in Brazil versus here in the US or

even in my country, Canada. We were just discussing. with a couple of the witnesses what it's like to be Brazilian and to be an experiencer to come forward with this kind of a story and I asked them we were both asking them what kind of support they were getting do they feel supported in Brazil in the US do they feel supported in general by the UFO community and what do you think their answer told us about what needs to change in Brazil what did their answer tell us yeah their answer told me exactly what I was feeling that they are supported here that the community, the American community is a lot more prepared to talk

about UFO than the Brazilian population. So as I was sitting here and this event started, the first feeling, the first thing that crossed my mind was it is so weird to be in the United States talking about the Virginia case. When I grew up raised to think that this was a prank and people were just making. fun. You grew up in Brazil, you grew up near Virginia. Tell us more about the context of you growing up at the belief system.

Yeah, I didn't, I'm not actually close from Virginia, but this was on national media. So everyone was talking about the case and everyone knew about this. And a few days later, I would say that immediately the media was just making fun of the case and a few days later, you know, just dolls about the EIT and everyone was just, you know, everyone was just laughing about it and laughing about the witnesses and the witness wouldn't come forward anymore because they were just too scared. And a few weeks later, it was just silent and no one else will talk about it, but to make fun. So I was raised to believe, not to believe because I always believed in the case, but I was raised with the impression or the attitude of fun, of

prank of ridicule in this case. So being here in the United States in an event that is taking witnesses seriously is just something new to me. And it is weird that I need to go to another country to experience that instead of experiencing that in my own country. And that's what the witnesses said, that they feel supported here, that they feel heard here, they feel validated. And then when they go back to Brazil. Again, people are just going to make fun at them. People are going to ridicule them again. And this is just so upsetting. Yeah. And of course for 30 years, I mean, no wonder taking them so long to come forward. You know, I mean, Carlos had to be really, really convinced by James to do this after 30 years. He's been so socially ostracized. He was telling us that he's lost

his home in his business. I mean, so many people have experienced such gigantic loss just trying to tell the truth of what's going on. And certainly they do not feel supported in Brazil right now. Like we were asking them, you know, do we think that there's going to be the 2026 Brazil governmental, essentially the equivalent of a congressional hearing here in the U.S. because that was the talk that there would be one this year in Brazil. They don't feel like that's going to happen because the attitude is continuing of ridicule and stigma, which is really unfortunate. And I'm so glad they felt supported here today. So how do you feel That's a boost for their confidence.

To come here to the US and feel supported and validated, it gives them a little strength to go back to Brazil and face whatever they're going to face, which is not going to be nice from their neighbors and co-workers and just people around. So I think it was really important for them to come here and feel supported and feel that people are taking them seriously. So I think this was a blessing. for them. Yeah, it was quite amazing. They got a standing ovation. There was a lot of emotion. Yeah, it was really something else. And we know that, um, experiencers are where it's at,

essentially. I think we need knowledge and information and research and science, absolutely. But the real life lived experiences of these people are so powerful. It really, really comes across no matter where someone is from in the world, right? Yeah. I love that we're coming together more as an international community and considering that you're Brazilian, you travel around, well, you travel to Brazil and other countries in the world for your world for your world. work. Do you feel like even just in the work that you're doing that you're coming together more as an international community over issues like this? I think so. I believe so. And I think for the UFO topic, the United States is leading

this discussion, is really taking this seriously with all these, the hearings and the UFO community here is just so strong. So US is leading the, it is changing how we see how we see. the UFO topic. So I'm really grateful for that. Me too, me too, because I live in a nice, quiet Canada. Thank you so much, Marina. Thank you. Oh, sorry, thank you so much, Marina. Thank you for talking with us. I'm going to hand it over to Anthony. Thanks, Janade. And I had a question too. Can you talk a bit about what drew you here to this event considering your studies and what you focus on your research and do you see any parallels with what you work on, with what you heard today?

What brought me here was, well, I'm in general just interested in the topic, in the UFO topic. I think there's a lot of overlap with what we do, the extraordinary experiences that we study adopts, although we don't directly study UFO and abduction, there is a lot of overlap. And so I'm personally interested, I'm also professionally interested, but I have to say that because this is a Brazilian case, and as I mentioned, it's just part of, part of my child's and my upbringing, it was really special for me to be here facing the Brazilian witnesses and remembering everything that happened like when I was 12, 13 and everything that I watched on TV and all these, the weaknesses again. It was really special.

And last question. Do you see the same kind of stigma in the parapsychology field and with experiences that you work with, either in out-of-body states and mediumship? Yes, yes. Exactly the same stigma. People are scared to talk about the experiences, people are being ridiculed. One thing that is interesting to me is that I feel that people are more scared to talk about spiritual experiences here in the U.S. compared to Brazil. But when it comes to abduction and UFO, people are more scared to talk in Brazil and in the USA. Compared to here, it's more open.

So it's different depending on the experience people have. And depending on the societal construct. This is a high-trial construct. Yeah, but everyone is scared to talk about the experiences. Depending on the experience, people are more scared there. Other experiences, people are more scared here. Well, thank you so much, Marina. And we spoke with Marina in a much fuller interview,

which will be coming up next month in February. So keep an eye out for that on Fire in the Cosmos. Thanks, guys. Hello, and welcome back to Fire in the Cosmos. who are reporting after James Fox's UAP event at the Press Club in D.C. We're also reporting on behalf of Somewhere in the Skies. And I'm here with a good friend of mine, the great Karen Ghaladette, wife of Admiral Tim Gulladette. Karen, you were telling me about some of your feelings after this event.

What did you think? What was your favorite moment? Sure. Wow. So, first off, we got to give some credos to James Fox for doing this and they're bringing actual firsthand witnesses from Brazil, getting them in the country, enabling to stand up here and speak their truth. It was very moving to me, especially the first witness, Carlos. You could tell that he'd been holding this in for 30 years and how much it meant to him that he could actually

say his truth, tell his story to people who were listening, not making fun of him. He cried and he made me cry, all of them. You weren't the only one. feel all of them the doctors also you could feel their truth and how it helped their souls to be able to express what they felt not just what they saw or witnessed but what they felt inside as a human it affected them and they were able to get that out to all of us and hopefully it's all of you and all the blisters so they're affected and can feel that compassion and love and interest to learn more. Thank you. Yeah.

And what do you think like that component of these experiences, it's barely touched on in like the public facing disclosure discussion. I actually was thinking about that yesterday when I was thinking about coming here, how we've actually made more advances, I feel like, in discussing craft, right? nuts and bolts craft than the consciousness aspect or those type of studies. We have not been able to address that as a people as much as I think we should. Hopefully that's 2026 is going to be our year. You think, thank you.

Yeah, you think regular people are more receptive to this approach and having those discussions than like the government discussions? I think so. You know, it's a little tough, I think, for the average person, if you haven't had an experience of any type to, I don't want to say take it seriously, but be able to address this as a human. Yeah. The more people that have, know someone who's had some type of experience or can look at these type of events that feel very important, I guess, that you're going to have people who have, you know people who have, more and are more open. Yeah, it takes a bit to work through that cognitive dissonance.

Yeah, because it's much easier just to put your head down, go to work, to prepare your kids, then address these high-level issues that we don't have the answers for. So for me, I think about it for a while and then I have to just shut down and go back to everyday life because it's fun to think about what's really going on, but it's also hard. Yeah. It's a hard news. Oh, thank you so much, Karen. Amazing, powerful woman behind a great man.

Thank you. Thanks. You're great, too. Thank you. I'm Mike Dambrosio. I'm kind of involved in this by miraculous means somehow. I guess I just kind of end up where I'm supposed to be when I'm close to be there. All right.

Here I am. I'm John von Block, and I'm here by a coincidence of circumstances. Thanks, guys. Welcome for the cryptic Christmas. I'm just kidding. So, guys, like, what were your top moments of today? What do you think about the event? Hey, so my top, well, they're all top.

But one of the best parts of it was the opportunity to speak and listen to Dr. Venturelli. I have the advantage of being able to understand Portuguese. and so it was really helpful to me. But I went and spoke with Dr. Ventrelli, and he explained to me, you know, people ask me about, you know, about physical aspects and all of this. He said, but that's not what this is about.

He said it was about what had happened, the effect. My awareness changed, my awareness of this being. And I said, so now with the reality of knowing that there is non-human life, you interacted with it, how is this going to make human life better?

And he said, it's because this non-human life is peace. There is no guile in it. He said, as a medical professional, as a neurosurgeon with a background in neurology, psychology, he said, I am trained. He said, people are in a constant state of fear. They're always worried about superficial things. People don't ask the questions why. He said, they don't think beyond their nose. And he said, just because they live in fear and shortages and resources.

He said, these things. Things represent an awareness that there is peace, there is goodness, and it is absolute. And they don't represent anything that intends to create any harm for us, but intends to show us that we can be at peace with each other. And anyway, blah, blah, blah. There you go. Wow. No, that was great. That's amazing.

And he just felt that like he got that intuitively and telepathically basically. That's what he was saying. He said, that's what it's about. He said, it's not about my colleagues and I as doctors look at this thing. It's about what it communicated to me. It's about, he said, I was aware of its being. It was an ontological moment. Yeah, I love how you put that.

I was aware of its being, not that it was looking at me, focusing on this or that, that it knew me. It saw through me to the core of the microphone. It saw, it saw through me to the core of who I was is the way I took that from him. And I loved that, I mean, obviously, keep out about a lot of this being a former military, but also just like an aeronautical kind of mind. My head is in that space.

So there's the nuts and bolts excitement and like the whole, like, this is so cool. It's taking in everything in its surroundings. And is it complete peace? The way he put it was it was in control of the entire room, even though everyone else was in charge of it for, like, has to do things to it or with it. And I was, like, amazed by that. But then when it gets back to the heart of the matter, the true heart of the matter, I do have to highly agree with you on that.

That there is something, I think the communication that we're really supposed to have as a species from these beings is going to be one that has to come through this kind of dialogue, this kind of conversation on how we're going to actually evolve, you know, our mindsets. Because now when I look at things that I previously, no, I'm not saying I don't, you know, that I don't have my own, you know, kind of constructive how I grew up with, you know, different way I, different ideologies and different kind of ways that I identify myself as, you know, Mike at 37 years old. But there's things now that just don't matter as much to me and more that I just don't care about because this is so much bigger than any of the petty arguments. And when I see stuff constantly on TV and there's this bickering and everything, it's like, I start to almost laugh because I'm like, this is such folly that I don't think anyway. When you get to a certain level of your own digging in your interior life and you start going to these things and then all of a sudden pieces, synchronities line up for you to be here, which by the way is a whole other topic. A coincidence of circumstance.

Yeah, it's just like it gets to the point where it's so laughable, but that's part of the full. fun of it. It's like this discovery that you have to make for yourself. And I think that's something that I want to encourage anyone that's really trying to figure out how the heck do I even peek my head in figuratively into this, you know, this world, this phenomenon because it's like, where do you start? But I think one thing I took away from this entire, like this entire a Q and a session afterwards. I've been following the case for a few years but obviously nothing like with what James has really no idea. I've only known for like three or four years blind as much as possible. Yeah but I really like dug it. Yeah me too and I but I had already

been interested to when this opportunity showed up I was like oh my gosh of course I'm going. But it my takeaway was that I almost felt an onus like I was going to stand eventually put my hand up and maybe if it was the time is right. But what I felt we were supposed to do as a species is like, and we'd say we could start with people in this room or Americans or Brazilians because we've got both those groups together here, countries. Lebanonians or Lebanians? Yeah, sure, it doesn't matter.

Whoever you are. Thanks, John. Yeah. Lebanian, Lebanese, right. I believe the onus on us is to realize to kind of figure out how do I create in this space. that like what is it that I'm supposed to be like supposed to do what am I supposed to contribute to this movement because I think we all have roles that we're able to play here and we can choose just like our free will for good or nefarious

reasons you can choose how you're gonna create and how you're gonna contribute to this and opening dialogue and this open disclosure because I think the disclosure truly is being it's us we've got to do this. Like so if we're going to keep pushing the needle forward, it's going to have to happen through not just this kind of stuff, but taking a piece of it in your, in your heart and your mind at home, discerning and chewing on it, digesting, going, how can I help add to this in a way that helps others or brings the, you know, rolls the figurative ball forward, or literally in this sense, you know, with Congress and everything else. So I just, it was something when Eric,

Sorry, Representative Burleson when he was speaking that it made me think of that. I wanted to ask him, like, what would you want from us as the lay people here as Americans? How can we help you? You know, and I think that's something I do want Congress to hear someone say. And if I have to be the one to say it, I'm asking. Because if there's something you need from us to help you go forward with this, we need to know. Like, we need you to reach out to us too. Sounds a little insane.

I know you're way busier than we are, but we do need to know what you need from us too. Because if there's something we can contribute, you best believe there's people in this room, just this room alone, let alone other places that we'll do that. Need to help move it forward. It's all I got. I'm out of breath.

Thank you so much. It's amazing. John, do you mind saying a bit about, like, what draws you to this? topic or if you're comfortable talking about your background at all? So serendipitously it was a year ago today that I had the opportunity to be invited by some mutual friends of ours to a gathering at their home. And one of the reasons I was invited is because I experienced something in 2008 and it's very little known. But the people who know about it, some of them were in public service.

for me an ontological event. Does that make sense? It was a shift for me. And so what draws me to these events? The expression of my natural self. That makes sense. And so when he was saying about this VE that it articulated, expressed itself so completely to him in his conscious mind and he understood that moment, again, there was no fear, there was no guile, there was nothing in it, despite being in an environment, no pun intended, an alien environment, but it was aware, it was comfortable, it was at ease. And he said, as human beings, all we are is in a constant state of fear, trying to get more resources because we've created a situation where we live in a world of controlled and manipulated supplies of resources.

to these things that come with the technological ability, ostensibly, far superior of ours, have nothing but this purity of being. And it is a purity of being that is peace, that is an expression of union. And it was doing that with him. It was united with him. And that goes back to my experience. So anyway, thank you, God. Thank you so much.

Thank you. It's an honor. Hello, we're here at James Foxes' press. conference at the National Press Club in D.C. representing both fire in the cosmos and somewhere in the skies. And I'm here with Sarah Gam and Science Bob McGuire. Hey! Can I get you guys thoughts so far about halfway through the event? What do you think so far? I think this has been incredible. It's been amazing being able to feel the emotions that are in the room and there's so much excitement happening. I actually have a friend in the audience that already let me know that some of the translation

information's been lost. So I'm excited to hear what else has been said. I heard Robert Salas and Gene's name left out. I don't know why. But anyway, the officer handled stuff and broke down crying on stage had me crying. Me too. I literally was crying with the emotions that were there. And this is a great event, and I'm happy we're having it.

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