Somewhere in the Skies - Nellis AFB UAP Witness Speaks Out, ‘Age of Disclosure’ Release Date, Lacatski's "New Insights"

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

Ryan and Suzanne return with an out-of-this-world lineup of breaking UFO and space news you don’t want to miss! 🌌 Topics include: Astronomers detect “exceptionally strong” radio signals from deep space linked to a black hole tearing apart a star — and possibly mimicking alien fast radio bursts (The Debrief). The UK’s top UFO hotspot revealed — find out which small Welsh town beats Manchester and Leeds for sightings per capita. The long-awaited release date for “The Age of Disclosure” documentary is finally here... featuring Marco Rubio, military insiders, and shocking UAP testimony. Inside James Lacatski’s new book, Inside the U.S. Government Covert UFO Program: New Insights — fresh revelations from the man behind AAWSAP and AATIP. New testimony from Yoshua Shelton, former Nellis Air Force Base security officer, detailing bizarre UAP encounters, a possible crash, and humanoid entities at a nuclear site. A chilling companion case from Adrian Reister, another nuclear security specialist, who witnessed glowing orbs and shadow entities inside restricted weapons facilities. What is Project Preserve Destiny? It's more bonkers than you may think! 2012 Dan Sherman interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f0o_n8OdCw DEBRIEFING podcast interview w/ Ryan: https://open.spotify.com/episode/22NhMB2ZygdHAjXYwbUDux?si=tk6_9hSTRU6gJ8jlsX4qtQ Please take a moment to rate and review us on Spotify and Apple. Book Ryan on CAMEO at: https://bit.ly/3kwz3DO Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: http://www.buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ PayPal: [e-mail] Email: [e-mail] YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SomewhereintheSkies Discord: https://discord.gg/NTkmuwyB4F Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/ryansprague.bsky.social Twitter: https://twitter.com/SomewhereSkies Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/somewhereskiespod/ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryansprague51 Order Ryan’s new book: https://a.co/d/4KNQnM4 Order Ryan’s older book: https://amzn.to/3PmydYC Store: http://tee.pub/lic/ULZAy7IY12U Proud member of SpectreVision Radio: https://www.spectrevision.com/podcasts Read Ryan’s articles at: https://medium.com/@ryan-sprague51 Opening Theme Song by Septembryo Copyright © 2025 Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. #UAP #UFOs #UFOnews #SpaceNews #AlienEncounters #Paranormal #Disclosure #BlackHole #ScienceNews #Livestream #Alien #Aliens #Government #Area51 #Disclosure #UFODisclosure Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What's up? Welcome to Somewhere in the live stream. I am your host, Ryan Sprague. And joining us after the break tonight, guys, Suzanne Landers. Our moderator will be hopping in to talk all the latest UFO news with us. We got some doozies for you tonight, man. Whistleblowers, UAP witnesses up the wazoo. So we're going to be talking about a bunch of those with you guys tonight.

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All right, you have your instructions. Follow them. I think that's it. That is it, So we're going to get to the news this week, and we're starting with a really interesting space story that I want to cover with you here. Astronomers detect exceptionally strong radio signals from deep space. This story comes to us from Micah Hanks over at the debrief, of course.

Excuse me, I'm still getting over the old you know what over here. Everyone's got it. over in the UK. But I will barrel through this here, guys. Astronomers have picked up mysterious, exceptionally strong radio signals from deep space

in their unlike anything ever recorded before. Detected from beyond the center of a distant galaxy, these fast changing signals have been traced to a tidal disruption event. The violent moment when a black hole tears

apart a star. But what truly astonished scientists was where this happened, not in the heart of a galaxy where supermassive black holes are expected to dwell, but thousands of light years away from it in the cosmic outskirts. The discovery led by Dr. Itai Safardi, who you see on your screen here if you're watching this on YouTube, he's from the University of California, Berkeley, and he says that this could rewrite what we know about black holes

and even raises provocative questions about the strange radio bursts that sometimes reach Earth from deep space. So interesting. Using a global network of powerful observatories, including the very large array in New Mexico, Alma in Chile, and the arc minute micro-Calvin imager in the UK, The team detected two colossal radio flares unlike ever before.

Even more curious, these signals appeared months after the star's destruction, suggesting the black hole woke up again, long after the feast was over. This slow-burning cosmic event hints that black holes may release energy in unpredictable pulsing outbursts, not unlike the fast radio bursts that have puzzled astronomers, for years and have occasionally been speculated to be artificial or alien in origin. Dr. Safari called the discovery truly extraordinary, and his mentor, Professor Asafresh, described it as one of the most fascinating cosmic findings of his career. While there's no claim of extraterrestrial intelligence here, the team's work does blur the line between natural and

mysterious, offering a rare glimpse into how black holes might produce the kind of radio phenomena that have long sparked speculation about alien technology. So there you go, guys, some really exciting news on black holes ripping apart stars and then, you know, whatever. Months, years later, it finally sends out a burst that we're able to detect, which is just so fascinating. Fast radio bursts are all the rage now in astronomy and SETI and all that stuff too. So this is pretty cool, pretty cool. I think this is game changing when it comes to astronomy and black holes. So awesome, awesome story

from Micahanks over there at the debrief. But let's move to our next story. If you're watching this on YouTube, you're seeing the flag of where is that guys? Anybody? I'll wait 10 seconds. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Boom, Jamie Tree Spirit coming in clutch with the win. Wales, great job, great job.

Gemi is well. Awesome, guys. Yep, that is the flag of whales. And the reason I'm showing that, let me read this to you guys here. Let me cough quick, too. I'm going to mute my mic. All right. The UK's top UFO hotspot has been revealed.

This story comes to us from a website called Nation. SimeRoo. And a recent article published a ranking of UFO reporting hotspots across the UK based on decades' worth of user submitted sightings drawn from three. sources. Those sources are the National UFO Reporting Center or New Fork, the Enigma Labs app, controversial to say the least, and the UFO identified group, which I have had the pleasure of working with here in the UK and speaking at one of their events when I first moved here to the UK. They do great, great work compiling all of the UFO reports throughout the entire United Kingdom.

So with these three groups, they were able to make the data more comparative by researchers adjusting for population size, basically reports per 100,000 people rather than simply counting total sightings. That recalibration places the place the place called laudnobino. a seaside town in North Wales with under 20,000 residents at the very top. That's interesting. One of the lowest populations throughout the UK has the highest amount of UFO reports. That's crazy. That means this place is definitely a hotspot for some reason.

What that reason is, we can only venture guesses. but wow, wow, wow, wow. So La Dudno logged 23 reports, which translates to about 116.7 sightings per 100,000 people. In absolute terms, larger cities like Manchester still lead in sheer volume, 349 reports, but their per capita rankings fall behind these smaller communities. The article also notes several caveats around interpreting these results. The rankings reflect reported sightings not confirmed extraterrestrial activity and may be skewed

by factors such as public awareness, reporting culture, smartphone usage, and the ease of logging via the Enigma app, which many recent reports came through. It also highlights that UFO observations occur across both rural and urban settings in England and Wales, showing no single geographic pattern. But let's go to the rest of the results. These were pretty interesting. La Dundna Wales had, like we said, the 116.7%. Norwich, England, 89.3. Manchester, UK, 88.2.

Stafford, England, 76.7. Waterlooville, England, 71%. Exeter England, 62%. Preston, England, 60%, Laumannster, England, 58%, Leeds, England, 54%, and Southampton, England, 51%. So for all of our UK listeners out there, I'm sure this is pretty exciting for the rest of the world. Maybe not so much, so maybe we'll get some of these results for wherever you're from as well. But now that I live in the UK, this is pretty interesting.

I'm a little disappointed that Scotland isn't on. here at all, especially with all the activity that is said to happen in Bonney Bridge in Scotland and even Inverness out there in the highlands and whatnot. But yeah, this is pretty interesting, pretty interesting. And a place in Wales, this small town in Wales is the place to go. So who wants to go? Who wants to go? You're in. Suzanne's in. Let me know in the chat. Give me a little hand in the chat there. Who wants to go to Wales? We'll get the lowdown from our good friend, Dan Zetterstrom, who's from Wales,

who now lives in the U.S., of all places. That's hilarious. He moved to the U.S., I moved to the U.K. Love it, love it. Someone had to take my place. Good luck. Good luck, Dan. That's all I'm going to say. This is cool. this is cool you'll go dayland says i'll go awesome amanda's in love it road trip guys let's do it okay let's move to our next story it's happening finally

they have announced the release date of the age of disclosure documentary it's here guys the upcoming documentary the age of disclosure directed by Dan Farah will finally make its global debut on Amazon Prime video. On November 21st, 2025, not too long, right around Thanksgiving time in the United States. It'll also have a limited theatrical release in select U.S. cities. The film explores what it calls the greatest secret in modern history. an alleged 80-year government cover-ups surrounding unidentified anomalous phenomena. So in announcing this, they also released a new trailer for the documentary.

So I'm going to go ahead and play that for you guys right now. Hopefully we won't get a copyright strike, Dan Farah. Just trying to help you out, brother. Just trying to help you out. So let's watch the latest trailer for the age of disdainting. We've had repeated instances of something operating in the airspace over restricted nuclear facilities, and it's not ours. These are otherworldly things that are performing maneuvers that haven't been seen. I have seen, with my own eyes, non-human craft and non-human beings.

This is so secret. There have been very few people in our entire government that have been allowed or provided access to it. Even presidents have been operating on a need-to-know basis, but that begins to ramp out of control. It's not acceptable to have secret parts of government that no one ever sees. People have been hurt, protecting and hiding this information. Some people claim it would cost them their lives and they spoke out about these things. You had information being locked away that could change the trajectory for species. This is the biggest discovery in human history. All right.

What do you guys think? Does that get you pumped to see the age of disclosure? Will you be watching the age of disclosure? Now, the big intention here is that this was, this premiered at a film festival. I want to say over a year ago at this point. To very, very mixed reviews, I think would be putting it

actually kind of generous. Not in terms of like it's a bad documentary or anything. But I think people were expecting something different. Apparently, and I guess this is kind of a spoiler. So if you don't want to know what the documentary condi consists of, it was all there in the trailer. It's literally just talking heads for like two hours. There's not like video evidence other than the Navy videos we've seen

for like seven years now. And it's a little slow and monotonous, as some reviewers put it. But again, like these are people that were probably expecting some like crazy UFO videos like the hellfire or things like that. So yeah, yeah. It's not that. It's a lot of people telling their side of the story, a lot of very high profile. political people, intelligence people, military people, obviously. Powerful heads, Kathy Smith says exactly.

One second. Oh, this cough is killing me. I really apologize if I keep muting tonight. So dry here in Scotland, man. Anywho. So will you be seeing it? Let me know in the comments below. Are you looking forward to it?

Let me know in the comments below as well. But yeah, all the familiar faces. as we've been seeing on the UFO topic for a long time, will they have anything new to say is the real question? The film touts testimony from 34 high-ranking insiders across the U.S. military, intelligence, and political sectors who assert that evidence of non-human technology has been systematically concealed for decades.

The documentary also includes appearances from scientists, researchers and pilots who share firsthand accounts and data that challenge conventional explanations for UAP encounters. Who are those scientists? Who are those scientists? That's what I want to know. That's interesting. That is interesting. I don't really give a rat's ass what politicians think about this topic.

I'm so sick of this topic being politicized. But look, there's no escaping it. It's Euphology 2025. And it's in the halls of Congress. And a lot of people see that as a good thing. And I'm not going to take that away from them. If you think that this is the age of disclosure and that disclosure is going to come from these 34 people in this movie, fine. Good for you.

I'm glad. I'm glad. I will obviously watch it. but will there be anything that will truly, truly be what they are saying is disclosure? I don't know. I just don't know. Last paragraph here. While the agent disclosure promises to deliver explosive revelations, skeptics argue that many of its claims rely heavily on personal testimony rather than hard scientific verification. Critics urge caution warning that sensationalism could overshadow legitimate calls for transparency.

So, yeah, I tend to agree with some of that. This is just, you know, people talking, welcome to ufology. It is literally what I do in ufology is tell stories. So it's up to you, whether you put any credence into that or not. So there you go, guys. The Age of Disclosure releasing November 21st. Can all watch it with our turkey dinners, our stuffing, all that good stuff. Where will I be November?

Oh, I will be back in Nova Scotia. So I wasn't really going to have Thanksgiving, whether I was in the UK. Now I'm going to be in Canada. So I'm just kind of hop in to all the places that don't have that. Thanksgiving, but I'm sure I will have some sort of Thanksgiving meal while I'm there. They actually have Thanksgiving pizza in Nova Scotia, and it is so good. So get this. It's pizza with, instead of like red sauce or whatever, it's a gravy base, gravy sauce.

Then you got a little bit of cheese, and then it has stuffing, turkey, and like herbs and spices on it. It is so, so good. had a slice in Nova Scotia last week when I was in Nova Scotia. Yeah, and it just, ah, if that's going to be my Thanksgiving meal, oh, I forgot the most important part. You dip it in a cranberry sauce. It just gets better and better. Uh, uh, I'll post a picture on Twitter of it.

I took a picture of it because it was so damn good. Do they have Halloween in Scotland? Robert says, yes, they do. Yes, they do. Um, It's called something else. Samhain, Simon, something like that. Forgive me.

I don't know the proper way of saying it. But yeah, there's this really cool thing. So I live near a very iconic park in Scotland where on Halloween, they have a procession of like pagan rituals who come down from these mountains with torches and proceed. to do like this crazy fire dance and chants and all these pagan rituals. It's so cool. So it's not like Halloween as it would be in like the U.S. where like people go out trick or treating and dress up in costumes.

You will see some of that. But it's it's more of like a actual like pagan ritualistic holiday. So that's pretty cool. Samhain. There we go. Saween. Sawin. Susan says, I don't know.

Why are you in school? Scotland, Kathy says. I live here. Kathy, I actually live here. I've been living in Scotland for about two and a half years now. I'll be here for about another year or so. My partner is studying here. So I'm here cheerleading them on and doing my UFO thing. And I love every second of it. Even though I'm like, I'm a New Yorker living in Scotland, working in Nova Scotia Canada. So half of my year, I'm either back home with family or, I'm in Nova Scotia working. So I barely actually lived in Scotland in the past two years. But I savour every moment being here, that's for sure. I love it. I absolutely love it. Oh, it's an ancient Celtic pagan festival, Amanda says.

Samhine. It's when the harvest begins. There you go. There you go. Yeah, we went to this awesome pagan thing last year where they were doing the fire dance with the torches and one of the people threw the torch up in the air and the flames came off the torch and I'm not getting you landed in my partner's hair litter hair on fire so this is like weeks of us moving here and her head caught on fire at a pagan ritual welcome to Scotland

Okay. So we have a lot to get to some crazy, crazy stuff. UAP witnesses at Air Force bases, UAP whistleblowers coming forward saying they worked for the NSA communicating with aliens. Oh my God. James Lakatsky came out with a brand new book called New Insights, where he talks about being inside a UFO. I'm going to repeat that.

Being inside a non-human craft, a UFO. We're going to talk all about it with Suzanne when we come back from the commercial break. So stick with us, guys. Watch these couple commercials I got for you. And we will come back on the other side in really getting to the meat of tonight's discussion. Ah, oh boy. Yeah, yeah. This is going to be very interesting.

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So thank you guys. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Okay, age of disclosure, documentary, releasing November 21st. But we got so much to get to. So I'm just going to bring her in without further ado. Let me get her up on screen here. There she is.

Suzanne Landers. Welcome back. Hi, how are you? I am doing great. How are you doing? You've had a busy week getting ready for something special, right? I am getting ready to go to Italy tomorrow for the Seoul Foundation. I'm so excited.

Yes, and we teased all of it last week. We went through all the speakers that you're going to be seeing and hopefully maybe interviewing when you're there. I kind of put you in a in a, in a, in a, on the spot situation there. We'll see. We'll see what happens. I know how these things go. It can get very crazy.

And sometimes these people just don't have time. But it'll be interesting to say the least. But we got some doozies to cover with you tonight. But before we do that, I just played the trailer for Age of Disclosure. What are your thoughts? What's your initial reaction to that trailer? and yeah, what's your history with this documentary, if any? And are you looking forward to it?

Let's start with that. I am looking very forward to this because I think the sheer volume of government-related witnesses is going to produce something that's fruitful for us. Will we have heard a whole lot of it? I'm sure we will. We'll already process some of it. But the sheer volume of these types of witnesses is not something that we see. right? I mean, we can just count on one hand the number of times there is even a small

cluster of these people. So I will definitely be watching it. I wish I were in one of those cities that had a limited release here in the U.S., but I'm not seeing it anywhere in the horizon in my nooks and crannies. Maybe you will be one in Scotland. I don't think so. I think it was literally like L.A., New York, Chicago. It's always like the major cities. which was great when I lived in New York. I always got to go to like the premieres of things and stuff like that. In L.A., my God. Like, that's just like...

That's where it premiered, didn't it, South by Southwest? I can't remember. I think that's in Texas, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, yeah, it is. That's right. I think it was in March of 2025 when it premiered. So that begs the question for those of us who sit up all night with questions running through our heads.

What happened between point A and point B? So I'm going to talk a tiny bit of trash here, none of which is verifiable. But I started digging around under why this delay, of course, I thought nefarious intent at first. You know, is our government in there doing something it shouldn't be doing to stop these people from speaking? But I don't think that's it at all. I think when you dug around in there, I think Mr. Farah can be very, particular, that that doesn't work for everyone. It's sort of what the bottom line about all that was. So I was as surprised as everyone else. Frankly, I thought there might not be a public release,

that it might just pop up on YouTube one day. So I was surprised. I was surprised, but he did work a deal. What I am reading about the Amazon Prime release, which is November 21 again, is that it's a self-release. So I don't really know what that means. You being in the entertainment world, you may have a better sense of what that means. But it's coming out. Yeah.

Self-release to me sounds a lot like self-publishing a book. It's not being done through a distributor. Like, you know, there are distributors out there that you hire to get your movie out to as many movie theaters as possible or to get the best deal for you. for Netflix, Hulu, stuff like that. So it sounds like to me, they kind of just were like, hmm, let's just put it up on Amazon and we'll do it ourselves.

I know Dan Farah has his own company. So that may be acting as the liaison or the actual distributor. I think it is. Which is weird. That a documentary, this high profile and this prominent with this many individuals involved, that they couldn't get like, I don't know. Right.

And then, you know, there was, and this has been made public, so I'm not saying anything out of turn or that's private, but there was a lawsuit as well between Dan Farah and Luis Elizondo. I don't know if that was at all related to the film itself, but. I don't think it was related to the distribution. I think it was related to a clearance question and that the only way to resolve it was this way. and then it immediately resolved, and it appears from me digging around

that Elizondo and Mr. Farrell have sorted out quickly. I'm not sure they were ever even really opposed to each other as opposed to having to process this thing out. But it worked out, and they got the paperwork they needed, and it was over. Okay. You said this place was steps from the water. We just haven't found the steps yet.

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Look at how long it takes to clear some of these books that have come out, Lakatsky's book, which we're going to talk about. The David Grush article that came out originally in the debrief took a really long time. Who else? Elizondo's book took like a year. So this stuff happens. Amanda made an interesting point here. Age of Disclosure is more geared towards the general public to bring more people into the topic. I do agree with that. Like, this will be old hat for us, probably.

We know everyone in these movies. We've seen them talk about UFOs. We probably know a lot of what they're going to be talking about. But this is not for us. This is for now a public internationally who will see this. Like hundreds of thousands of millions of new people will be seeing this. I'd like to compare it to WWE. I can't believe I'm doing this.

World Wrestling Entertainment. My second love in life professional wrestling. They were on the channel USA. In the U.S., there's a network actually called the USA Network. They were on there for like 40 years or something. Their show Monday Night Raw. And then a couple of years ago, they left USA and they went to Netflix. And that was just, that changed everything.

Because you were no longer on just a United States network, where very few people even watch cable television any longer. And now you were on a platform where the entire world could see you. And that boosted up their viewership and everything by literally, probably like hundreds of millions of people. Multiple and multiples. Just a huge step to take. Totally. Totally.

So I think it's good that they're doing a limited theatrical release, but then putting this on the biggest, like, platform. out there, Amazon Prime. Did you draw any connection between earlier this week's public safety hearing by the UAPDF and the release date of this? I don't want to read too much into it, but I thought the UAPDA presentation was really for a larger audience, a general audience, not necessarily for us, in a way to perhaps get the public thinking about it and then this comes right behind it to likely get the public thinking about it. It almost makes me think something's up. Something's either up and we talked about this.

We were given permission to exclusively stream the UAPDF town hall that took place this past week. Guys, you can watch it right here on the channel, one live stream back. So I want to give a special shout out to the UAPDF, the UAP Disclosure Fund, and all the amazing people over there. They were so kind to let us stream that just so we could get it out to more people that may not have attended the virtual town hall itself. I was just like, look, hey, we'll put it up here if you guys want extra eyes on it. And they were like, yeah, let's do it. So hopefully maybe that's a relationship we can build further and stream more of their things in the future. but I didn't really know what this thing was going to be about, and I was, I loved it.

I thought the speakers were great. Like you had said, it was all about public awareness and what was the other big thing. Law enforcement, what they should be doing in the incident and what the military ought to be doing for an incident instead of, honestly, what they are doing, which is what they are doing. Yeah. Well, I saw him in the chat here. Keith Taylor was one of the speakers. He's always sharing our stuff. And I love that.

I appreciate that. He was one of the speakers. And I thought he did great. Like he's the one who's like creating a manual for law enforcement to deal with UAP reports. UAP crashes if they are to happen. Because where's the first place many people report a UFO? It's to law enforcement. And if they don't have a protocol, like, we're not going to get anywhere.

That thing's going to end up in the trash bin eventually. And also without a protocol, isn't it easy for people to be dismissed as, you know, crazy or you saw a balloon? Or, you know, it's really easy to go that route if you don't have to actually follow a protocol. Exactly. Exactly. But I kind of got off track there. I apologize. You asked me, do I think something's up or like the timing?

Yeah. I think it's too. I think the more, I guess, hypothetical one is that, yes, something is happening where they feel like they need to get this documentary out. And also, we need to educate the public on some sort of protocol for contact of some sort or some big event happening. We kind of joked about it while we were watching the town hall. But we were like, could this have to do with three eye atlas? Is it going to come land on Earth? But like, who knows?

Who knows? But I do get that weird. I do too. Or a feeling. Or like that's feeling. Yeah. And then, you know, also maybe it was a concerted, strategic thing for the documentary,

who it has people from the UAPDF involved, to kind of work in tandem with each other and, you know, boost both of their exposure at the same time. I don't know. Like, that's a, that's genius. That's like business 101. Like, you know. It's a no harm, no foul move, isn't it?

You can educate the public and you can unite yourself and strength with others and get your message out. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, yeah, yeah. Dusty asks, who cleared Lou's book? Oh, God. Yeah, what is that group? Yeah.

It is escaping me. the chat. The Inspector General's office? Something like that, but yes, it has to go through a process and everything in it needs to be cleared to make sure it's not classified and stuff. Someone will put it in the chat. I know they will. Someone Google that for us quickly. Yeah.

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They're incredible. They're so on top of everything. They're awesome. Okay. So let's move from the age of disclosure to this guy. James Lackett. So he just came out with a new book a couple, maybe a couple weeks ago, month ago. at most called Inside the U.S. government covert UFO program,

New Insights. And this is the third book in a trilogy, basically. So I'm going to read a little bit here, Suzanne. Sure. Dr. James Lakatsky is an American nuclear engineer with expertise in fusion plasmas and directed energy systems. His career includes a term as program manager, contracting officer representative, security coordinator and counterintelligence coordinator for the advanced aerospace weapons system

applications program or offset at the Defense Intelligence Agency. In his writings in public commentary, he links his engineering and aerospace background with investigative work into UAP or UFOs and allegedly anomalous experimental aerospace systems. he is the co-author of a book series often referred to under the umbrella title Skin Walkers at the Pentagon series so we know the first one that came out with the Napster and Comkeller and it traces his claimed involvement in the Ossap program

his investigations at Skinwalker Ranch in Utah and government UAP programs the first volume was in 2021, the one I just mentioned. The second volume came out in 2023, which was called Initial Revelations, where he made some variable claims, which is going to be the center of what we're going to talk about

in just a couple minutes. But the new one is called New Insights. Together, the trilogy claims to offer a technical engineering viewpoint of covert UFO programs, U.S. government aerospace threat assessment, and anomalous phenomena, largely outside the mainstream of public disclosure. In the second book,

Lakatsky made the very bold claim that he witnessed and gained access to the inside of a craft of unknown fortune. He sure did. He did. I don't know how that went over my head. I guess I didn't even know that second book had come out. But very bold claim.

and it was confronted on the weaponized podcast with Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp. They had Comkellaher on and James Likatsky. So I thought it'd be interesting if we watched a pretty heated discussion between these four individuals about this claim, about Likatsky gaining access to a craft of unknown origin. Should we give that a watch? Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay, okay. Let me find it here and then where this story goes down a rabbit hole. Here we go. Here's the video from the weaponized podcast. Initially allowed to tell us that the United States government has in its possession a craft of unknown origin and you were able to access the inside. Is that correct?

The wording that you read is correct. Ah, you're going beyond the wording. No, I'm not, I'm asking you, did that mean happen? And is it true? And it's true. Okay, you're telling us, you told us because you were allowed to tell us that our government has a UFO in its possession and has been able to access the inside of it, right? Yes. I was allowed to tell you, let me show the back of the book. This is what I know, I know, but hold up.

George, we translate. George. Let's try another tack. How do we know it's a craft and not a doorstop? We accessed it. It has no engine. It has no wings, no fuel. It doesn't, we don't know that it travels.

Do we know it's a craft or it's just a rock? George, you're going into the further discussion that occurred that day. All right. We can't go there. But let me tell you, we're going to try to cover that in the future. But it's delicate. It makes it makes the technology described in here look primitive. Why is it delicate?

Why is this topic the United States government has a UFO in its possession and we've been reverse engineering it? You've done admitted it. Why is it delicate? The details. I'm old school. I'll use the term. I won't use the term. adversary competitor as the way we describe.

We are surrounded, maybe not surrounded, but hopefully not so, by our enemies. And our enemies, you can be sure they're listening to this show right now. You can be sure that they were monitoring ASAP. You can be sure that perhaps they had employees hopefully not in GIA but in the contractor part

that was we're giving out information for I am I know that so the thing is we can't say anything more than what we've been approved to say okay okay so

details that's something I want to to tackle next because you had the rare opportunity to attend Seoul Symposium last year where Dr. Eric Davis spoke. And that's where we're going to head next with this story because I have stumbled down the rabbit hole that is James Lakatsky. And I found some interesting, interesting stuff that has to do with this. But Amanda asked a very good question. I saw that you commented on that. Why is this guy not speaking in front of Congress? he won't.

He made it clear that he will not testify before Congress about this. Why? Why? Why publish a book and not get in front of Congress? And my response to her was that's why he's my number one choice for a congressional subpoena. A subpoena. Let's take the choice away. Let's take the choice away.

The problem with that being, like you had mentioned in the past hostile witnesses, like say we do subpoena him, is he just going to be like, read my book, bitches? Like, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's harder in person to play that game when you are in the hot seat on a witness stand under a subpoena. And I just think it's worth the effort. Let's do it. We get what we get.

You can't control what you get. You can't control what they do. My grandmother used to have a funny saying, and it was, I can't make you behave, but I can make you sorry you didn't. Yeah. That was the way I feel about Mr. Lincoln. I can't make you tell it, but I can say, you're sorry you didn't, not me as an individual, me as an American citizen, you know, for the government to do it.

But I just think, take the gloves off. Good grief. Yeah. I mean, look, he can He could take the heat. He was doing it there with Corbell. Like, I, like, if he doesn't want to say something, he's not going to say it.

But, like, to make the claim that you gained access to a craft of unknown origin, possibly non-human intelligence, uh, and to kind of, and in the next clip we're going to play, does expand a little bit and give a bit more detail about the possible craft and the,

things observed about it, according to the engineering background of Likatsky. Maybe we should just play that. Let's go ahead. Okay. So what you're going to see is first a tiny bit of a conversation that George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell had at some UFO conference. I'm not sure which I think it was one in Oregon at some point. And then the second half of the clip is Dr. Eric Davis speaking last year at the Seoul

Symposium. So let me find that. And we'll go ahead and comment after this. I'm interested to know what you think about this one, Suzanne. Okay, here it is. And tried to get it transferred to a government program called OSAP, these acronyms. They tried to get it over there so they could open up this egg-shaped UFO. They breached the whole of it.

They were able to get inside of it. The head of the DIA UFO program admitted it on our podcast. He straight fucking said it. It's not headline news. Oh, by the way, it's extraterritorial technology we got inside of it. Jim Lekatsky describes in his recent book a year or two ago of how he was able to see an intact craft and go inside of it, and he couldn't recognize any kind of power or propulsion system inside of it. The four star general described being able to see that craft as well, touched it, said, in all of his,

decades as a military officer, combatant commander, NATO commander. It's like, oh, yeah, this isn't anything that we ever made, and it's not anything. The Soviets, the Chinese, or any other foreign country on the world could even make. It's just strange. It's just really strange. Really strange. Okay. So a couple things. The egg-shaped craft, that's interesting. Isn't it? Sounds a lot like what Jake Barber. Jack Barber had retrieved or been part of a retrieval of.

Egg-shaped craft have been synonymous with UFOs. Not the decades, but that is pretty interesting that would go on to talk about the propulsion and stuff like that as well. So that was interesting. But the thing that caught me off guard with the Eric Davis. part was he mentioned, yeah. Well, let me backtrack just for a sec. The friend that Jeremy Corbeau was talking about who was possibly in possession of this and that it was stopped or was going to gain possession of it is Robert Biggola.

This has been made public that it was made public by George Knapp at the latest UAP hearing that Robert Bigelow was going to get a craft or was going to study a craft, right? Right. This is ringing a bell. Oh, my God. I just put the people together and he stopped. In fact, he spent something, I'm going to get the number wrong, but he spent something like $25 million, Bigelow did, to build the facility to accept this craft. And then it got yanked. Man, wonder where that money went. I know. You got that. Yeah. Interesting. Um, okay, but, okay, fast forward. In that clip, Eric Davis said a four-star general also touched this craft and was aware of this and was also one of the people who gained access to the craft as it were. Um, so my mind was like, who's, who's this general?

What the hell is he talking about? Like, we got to find this general. Is this someone we could subpoena or, or possibly talk to? I found it. Did you? I did. I think. You're super sleuthing.

I think. So, one sec. Get it up here. This is General Jack Sheehan. And both by the words of Eric Davis via the Wilson, Davis-Wilson documents or memo in the past, and also writings from Jacques Valenzhen. in his past journals.

Allegedly, this guy, General Jack Sheehan, he was the Supreme Allied Commander Atlantic from October 1994 to September of 1997. And he served as the Director of Operations for the Joint Chiefs in the writings of Jacques Valet. Apparently, excuse me, his boss instructed him to take a flight to a certain facility presumably be presumably a Lockheed site where he saw and touched a craft.

He found a $9 billion discrepancy in budgets, which led him to uncover a project on craft with no oversight and using defense intelligence agency money. So basically, Suzanne, I think this is the guy. I think he was the one. I think that he was the one to first kind of uncover. cover these projects that had no oversight and look at where we are today. Wow. With David Grush and all of these people saying that these legacy programs of UAP crash

retrievals exist and then are put into private sectors but are still being funded by government agencies. So it's just like corrupt as all hell when it comes to these UAP programs. Right. So I don't know. Exactly. And, you know, they will mix a gray program with a black program in order to get the security for the gray program as well. So there's all of that going on constantly.

But let me throw in one more little tidbit for consideration. I think Jack Sheehan is Danny Sheehan's brother. Are you serious? I'm serious. I'm serious. I think Danny Sheehan's brother is named Jack and I wonder if this is that guy. All right, super sleuth in the chat. Get on it.

You just exacerbated my cock because that excited me. I know. I wonder that. I didn't even think to like, I mean, the names. It's so funny when I was typing in Jack Sheehan. And I was typing in like Jack Sheehan, UFO, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, going down that rabbit hole. And Danny Sheehan kept popping up. I'm like, no, not that guy.

This other one. Yes, maybe that guy, right? Yeah, I think that this is his brother. I guess it could be a crazy coincidence. but I think Danny Sheehan's brother is Jack. Whoa. That just made things even more than it's in here. Good Lord.

I know. We could eventually get these pieces of this puzzle together, us and our group. This is crazy. This is crazy. It's like Spider-Wil. It is. It is. So, yeah, that's, you know, kind of where we're at with Lekatsky and this new book.

I'm just going to read a little bit about the book. because I think people should read it. There's going to be stuff to glean. I know, like, I think it was Stephen Green Street, put a pretty funny tweet up about some of the cases that are in this book that were studied by people at Skinwalker Ranch and all that stuff. And, you know, Stephen Green Street obviously makes light

of a lot of this stuff. And look, it's crazy. It's ridiculous. You got werewolves smoking cigarettes in the middle of a ranch out in Skinwalker. You've got everything you could think of, these orbs going into people's homes and, I don't know, turning on lights and all that stuff. It's crazy stuff. But, yeah, so if you want to read some of the more humorous takes on the stuff in this book, you can go follow Stephen Green Street. But in new insights, Lakatsky talks about Kona Blue.

There you go, guys. Again, that's your code word for this week. Kona Blue. Be sure to put that in your Apple podcast rating and review or the comments on Spotify. What she says was a classified compartmentally compartmented effort that sought to establish a controlled environment to study and potentially exploit, recovered, or observed anomalous technologies. Some researchers suggest it was conceived as a follow-up to OSAP designed to move beyond data collection and into application. and reverse engineering of UAP related materials or energy systems. Lakatsky has not publicly confirmed operational details,

but has alluded in his writings, particularly in this book, New Insights, that programs like Kona Blue represented in evolution of government interest in non-human technology operating in secrecy long after ASAP was terminated. And we now know from the Pentagon itself, who put this out to the public, Kona Blue was an actual thing. It was going to be the thing that came after these programs, ASAP and ATIP and whatnot.

So the fact that they were not only going to collect data on UAP, but we're then going to collect craft and reverse engineer it, there you go. That is the UAP program as it stands right now, this secretive program that Grush and Borland and all these other people are talking about, whatever it is, it's a version of this Kona Blue, in my personal opinion. What do you think? That's right.

Yeah. That's right. Yep. Well, I need to read this book. I can tell you. Me too. I need to see what, if anything, is new in it. And then maybe we can determine whether it's worth disseminating a little information on it.

Yep. Absolutely. You let me know. I know you're a speed reader. You'll get through it before I do. But you've got a busy weekend coming up. I do. It won't be this week for sure. Yeah, definitely not, definitely not. I can't believe we've been doing this live stream with us tonight. Oh, gosh. Happy to. Happy too. Well, but you know, the other thing, the last thing on Lakatsky was last year's soul. So the group may remember when we did the soul summary out of San Francisco that Eric Davis spoke, as you mentioned. earlier. And Eric Davis said that Jim Likatsky, exactly what you were talking about today, had gained access to non-human intelligent craft and went inside and there was no visible means

of operation or control or power and that others in a position of authority had done the same. And that makes me think of this military Sheehan fellow. I bet that's who, was in the craft with a Likatsky. Crazy. I know. Look at us. Look at us connecting the dots. We're actual UFO detectives.

That's what we are right in this minute. Look out. Yeah. We've got to get some fedoras and sunglasses or something. Right. Get some film noir jazz music in the back. We're doing it, guys. We're bringing you the latest and greatest in UFO news.

We are breaking stories here tonight. Now we just got to get like Mori Povich to do a DNA test. Is Danny Sheehan and Jack Sheehan related the results after the commercial break? I love that. Let's go for it. Let's go for it. Cool. Well, I put this up on the screen.

I teased it a little bit. Our next story we're going to cover tonight has to do with a former U.S. Air Force staff sergeant who claims to have been hired to communicate with aliens for the NSA. This is bonkers. So a former U.S. Air Force Staff Sergeant Daniel Sherman served as an electronic intelligence specialist in the 1990s working on classified communications and data analysis projects tied to the NSA.

He became best known for his claims about Project Preserve Destiny, a covert U.S. military program allegedly designed to train personnel with latent psychic abilities to communicate with non-human intelligences. So Jesse Michaels recently came out, Jesse Michaels of American Alchemy, came out with an interview with Daniel Sherman this week, I believe.

So let's play a little clip from that, that Jesse put together, kind of teasing and giving us an overview of what the interview would consist of. If you want to watch the full thing, it's like two hours long, guys. You can go over to American Alchemy and watch that. We were able to dig up three hours. Three hours.

Oh, my God. I would highly recommend if you're watching it on YouTube, you can control your speed, your playback speed, put it at 1.25 or 1.5 because it's a minute. It's a lot. Wow. Well, and you know, you and I were able to dig up interviews from both, I believe, 2007 and 2012. also with this guy, Daniel Sherman. So you can watch those as well.

They're a little bit shorter, a bit more concise. And the interesting thing is we'll hear in this one is his story hasn't changed. At all. From 2007 up until today, it's the same. Yeah. So is that good? Is that bad? We'll discuss that after this clip.

So let me go ahead and play that, play this from Jesse Michaels. And we'll get a little bit deeper into Project Preserve. destiny here we go all right I a tone and I want you to mentally hum that tone and he said that you will eventually feel a connection the line will change when I saw the sineway move and I went oh okay well there's a mental disconnect there that that's not supposed to be happening that this is not possible Ambition comes in all shapes and sizes. At First Citizens Bank, we roll with your goals because we're built for what you're building.

Fit for your ambition for Citizens Bank. Our guest today is an Air Force Sergeant who worked at the highest levels on classified projects in electronics and signals intelligence for the United States government. We have thorough documentation of his military records. records. His service is not something you can really argue with, nor is his mental health. This is the most nonchalant conversation I've ever had about alien telepathic communication. In this exclusive long-form interview, retired technical sergeant Dan Sherman claims that while serving in the Air Force in the early 90s, he was recruited for an extremely classified program

at the NSA or National Security Agency. This program was called Project Preserve Destiny. Project Preserve Destiny's purpose to telepathically decode alien signals for the NSA. You heard me right. Alien signals that seem to telepathically transmit descriptions of alien abductions across the United States. Alien signals that ultimately gave our very curious guest,

answers about the very nature of the alien presence on Earth, how these beings travel, how they conceive of time, what they think about humans, and much, much more. Dan Sherman was originally told by the Air Force Captain who read him into the program that he was given this telepathic ability by the aliens themselves, when they abducted Sherman's pregnant mother in the early 1960s and altered his genetics while he was a fetus in her womb. This genetic blueprint would allow him to grow into what the NSA would dub an intuitive communicator. With the IC communication, you can feel it in your brain.

You can feel, now you can't localize it, it's not a localization, but I can feel like it's in that area of my brain right there. Whoa. Sherman believes the NSA may even have tracked him since childhood into his young adulthood and military service until he was finally read in the the program. Do you think that the NSA or powers that be know that this interview is happening? Because of the extremely sensitive nature of this NSA program and its ties to black programs, Dan tries to abstain mentioning which bases this project preserved destiny was conducted at. But my researchers and I were able to locate one of these bases, and I bring it up at the end of this interview, catching Sherman a bit off guard. Not only that, but at the end of the

this video we explore an independent researcher's use of the Freedom of Information Act to learn more about Project Preserve Destiny. He sent a request to the government to see all of the files on it. As you'll see, both the Air Force and NSA's responses to his request are fairly telling. The point is, the skeptics can have at it, but this case isn't going away. It's very hard to dismiss. I'd argue that Dan Sherman's story is one of the most important important UFO legacy program related accounts we have to contend with. So sit back, relax, and prepare to have your worldview crumble with this week's very courageous American alchemist, retired sergeant, intuitive alien communicator,

and UFO whistleblower, Dan Sherman. Wow. Wow. The whole thing. The whole thing. Wow. I like, I don't even know where to really. go from here because

I'm trying to get the thing back here. Okay, there it is. I will give Jesse Michael's credit for this. And I'm kind of rough on the deed sometimes. Maybe it's insecurity. I don't know. But like he did the work. Like he reached out to people.

He was able to like verify certain aspects of this, whether it's the actual project, preserve destiny according to the Air Force and all that. I am interested to watch the interview and see what the results on that were, what the response was from them about that. I'm interested to hear more about, you know, how this actual communication, like, why was it called Project Preserve Destiny? Someone asked in the chat, I have that question as well. We should mention, too, this all came to light in a 1997 book that he wrote called Above Black Project Preserve Destiny. And, yeah, he goes a lot more in depth about it.

And I got to ask you this, Susan, we both are, quote, unquote, experiencers and or we have seen UFOs. Neither of us, at least to my knowledge, you haven't claimed to have ever been abducted by aliens. Or, okay, okay, just I kind of put you on the spot with that question. It would be crazy if you said, yes. Oh, yeah, I forgot to tell you. Yeah, sorry, totally. Like, I just, you know, doing this podcast with you for the last two years, it now just came to Mesh. But yeah, the fact that he was chosen because his mother was abducted by aliens and in the womb, he had some sort of like DNA put into it from eight.

Like, what? What? I know. It's crazy. in any of these videos because you know me. I'll watch a video, but I'm never satisfied there. I want to go see what they said on the same subject at other places if those things are available. So this is the whole I went down this week. And he is to a word consistent, absolutely consistent. And the other thing about him, which the groups heard me talk many times about it being a tool of mine on the issue of credibility, is that he will stop an interview. if they are trying to lead him to something he thinks is not true, that he's, or that did not happen. He will not go along and he's not, he's not impolite about it,

but he's very quick to stop it. So there's something there. Now, how you go about ever finding some finality on your mother, having been carrying you and this happening, I don't know what you do with that. I wonder if anybody's done any genetic testing on him to see if something is slightly different. Yeah. Again, maybe that's something we could do. All right, guys.

If you want to help us get DNA tests for both Jack Ceehan and Dan Sherman, Super Chat is open. You will help fund the DNA tests. I'm Jack Sheehan. I did see somebody. say that that's not Danny's brother, but it may just be another Jack Sheehan same thing. So who knows? Okay. Okay. Interesting.

Nonetheless. Everything is coincidental. You know, Robert, I said, how do I know the name Sherman, Sherman? Exactly. They were the original, I believe, owners of Skinner. It's all connected.

Today it's all connected. It's weird. Fairly. Apparently. So what the last thing I will touch on with this story

that I found interesting is kind of the reason he came out with all of this is not so much like to I guess it wasn't a way to expose the program but also like he believed as time went on

that the motivations behind why the program existed were less than I guess virtuous, yeah, honorable. That's a much better word. And he ultimately came to believe that the project's real goal

was not research, but control over humanity's first telepathic link with non-human intelligences. And Suzanne, like, what is the big thing right now in the UFO world? Cyanics, boom. Yep.

So this guy, like, was warning us. about psychic communication with aliens back in 97. It's crazy. Which is crazy. A lot of what he's saying has been validated in a way, tangentially and also hypothetically, by what is being talked about in the world of the UFOs today, whether it's psychically summoning UFOs or psychically communicating with the intelligence behind said UFOs. I find that fascinating.

I do too. I do, too. And I wonder if there'll be any blowback. But he said this. He also got out of the service early. And in order to do that, I found this heartbreaking. His direct supervisor, his next step in command, told him that they're not ever going to let you out, much less let you out early. This isn't going to happen.

It's too dark a program. It's not going to happen. So he told him he was gay. and they let him out. It was back in the time of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, which was that Bill Clinton, maybe. And so he went to a different area of command and told him he was gay. And he was the only way he was able to get out. Wow.

That is heartbreaking. But also a creative way of getting out of it, I guess. I think he might have been, I think he says at some point that he's bisexual. And so he just used that as a stepping stool to go ahead and tell in the don't ask, don't tell phase. Okay. Yeah. Do what you got to do, you know.

I guess that's, wow, that's interesting. He's so uncomfortable. And I would just love more detail on all of that. And I think it had something to do with abductions as well. Did you get those details? I wasn't really clear, clear about what he meant. but clearly he thought intent had gone from, is this humanly possible to nefarious?

Yeah. I mean, even in that clip there, they were mentioning like the connection with the Travis Walton incident, other abductions and, you know, I don't know. It's crazy stuff. Like I definitely suggest people go back. We did put a link in the show notes for, I believe, the 2012 interview.

I don't remember who it was with. but that was my favorite one. Project Camelot did the one back in 2007. That group is less than questionable when it comes to a lot of UFO stuff. So I would maybe veer away from that one. But this one from 2012, I found really interesting.

And then do watch the Jesse Michaels one because this is the most up-to-date and current one with possibly some new developments and information. My question for you, Suzanne, before we move to kind of our last story of the night, is do you think Project Preserve Destiny is still going on? Is there a cone of Blue of Project Preserve Destiny? Or do you think they're still keeping tabs on this guy?

If any of this is actually true. Yeah, I think they're still keeping tabs. And it just seems to me nothing, no program ever really dies. It might morph. You know, Jay Allen Hineken's group, no, that doesn't exist anymore. Oh, wait, yeah, it did exist. it. You know, you go through these crazy things, and until someone puts the evidence in front of them, they lie. And I have zero confidence that they ever really shut anything down. I think it's a shell game. I would have to agree with that. I'm calling you out. You said J. Ellen Heineken. What did I say? Oh, sorry. No. I've done the same thing. Jay Allen Heineck. No, I do it all the time because

He's one of our most loyal regulars. He's been with me from the very start. And he's hilarious. How about Jay Allen Heineck instead of Jay Allen Heineken with all due respect to our beloved Heineken? That was the best Freudian slip I think we've ever had on the show. So we're keeping it. We're keeping it. Okay, good.

Okay. Anything else on this story before we move to our last one? I think that's good. This is a doozy, too. What a week. Wow. This is a doozy. And I have an exciting update about the story we're about to talk about.

But Ross Colthart recently had a UAP witness come forward on his show over at News Nation. And this was with a gentleman named Joshua Shelton. He's a former Nellus Nuclear Security Guard. And he worked at, like I mentioned, Nellus Air Force Base, at a place called Area 2. And the reason he came forward is because there was apparently a bunch of UFO activity

and paranormal activity happening at Area 2. So let me go ahead and bring this up here. If you're watching this on YouTube, what was that? I'll pull the link up on this. Oh, please do. Put it in the chat while you're doing that.

Perfect, perfect. Yeah, I'll go through a little bit of information here. So yeah, if you're watching this on YouTube, this is Joshua. What's that? My blasting out here trying to get the link. Sorry. Oh, God, no, do your thing. Do your thing. I love how you're on screen and you're still moderating. You're a lawyer. You're used to spinning 10 plates.

Figure this mess out. That's right. So Joshua Shelton served in the U.S. Air Force from 20, excuse me, 2002 to 2008, primarily stationed at Nellas Air Force Base in Nevada, where he was part of the 99th security support squadron responsible for safeguarding area two, a heavily fortified section of the Nevada National Security Site that housed live thermonuclear weapons and special nuclear materials. Holding top-level clearance under the Personnel Reliability Program, Shelton advanced from security forces patrolmen to Central Security Controller, overseeing perimeter operations, rapid response teams, and coordination with the Department of Energy.

His duties included authorizing lethal force, monitoring restricted nuclear zones in participating in rigorous nuclear surety inspections, describing Area 2 as a triple-fenced fortress, concealed by desert terrain and under constant surveillance. Of course, I cough right in the middle of this one second. Okay, I'm back. Over time, Shelton and his team encountered multiple UAP, including a glowing disc-shaped craft that passed silently just a few hundred feet overhead, momentarily muting all ambient sound. He also described a possible crash being nearby bluffs

and where two lights resembling vehicle headlights abruptly disappeared before an apparent impact. But it does not. and there. So what I'm going to do now, Suzanne, has played the first clip from the Ross Colthard interview with Joshua that talks about the UFO crash. So let's go ahead and watch that. And yeah, we'll comment on the other side. Okay. Here we go. Inc. We're a large disc-shaped craft crashed after silently overflying the storage depot complex. Tell me that story. So this one, this one's a little disturbing for me because somehow I completely forgot about this incident. And I don't know how I could have forgotten because it was so obvious. It was right over my head. I was on the alert fire team, which was stationed at the alternate security control center.

And we were outside. A few of the guys smoked. So we were outside with them kind of joking and just hanging out. One of the other patrols was there. So it was a total of six people outside. And I remember that the guy that I'm facing were talking, joking about something, and he kind of looks up above my head and his eyes just go wide. And as soon as that happens, I kind of turn my head to look over my shoulder. And as I'm turning my head, I see this reddish glow that kind of approaches on the ground.

And I crank my head up just in time to spot this. I mean, I hate to say, but it was a class. flying disc shaped object. I don't think that it was physically on fire. It was almost like this almost like magma type glow was wrapped around the front of it. And that was that was what was illuminating the ground underneath it. But it was flying maybe two to 300 feet above our heads, very low. And as it approached and came over us, it actually deadened.

sound wherever it moved. Like the natural sounds of like the building right next to us, the desert, other patrols in the distance, they got very faint, almost like when you stick your head in the water. And as soon as there any noise from the object at all, do you hear anything like a propeller or a jet or a turbine? Nothing. Nothing like that. A little bit of a hum, but I don't, like I, I, I, I, I,

I don't know if it was the object creating the hum or maybe its interaction with the atmosphere. The object came right overhead and you could tell it was losing altitude because it was dipping down lower as it came and passed over us. As soon as it was clear of us, that's when sound returned and you could hear everything normal. We immediately got on the radios. By the time we got the first radio call out, the object had cleared the perimeter fence line. And it seemed to go behind this area that we called the Bluffs, which is what kind of blocked us from view from the rest of the desert. And once it went down behind the bluffs,

there was a massive flash of like orangeish, reddish light. And it was so big that all of us kind of braced ourselves. Because we honestly thought, whatever this thing is, it's just crashed. And like, it's such a huge explosion. We're going to get knocked off our feet. We saw the bright flash of that orangish light there was no sound and we expected we braced ourselves there was no sound there was no concussive force there was nothing that you would expect the exterior patrols oscar one Oscar one Oscar two

they were dispatched out to go to the bluffs because we expected an object to be crashed there we fully expected to find like hurt people something so they immediately went out there to start looking for this object, and they found nothing. There was nothing out there. Okay. So what do you think? What do you think of Joshua? I love how quiet he is.

He is not an exaggerator. I think this is what he has experienced, whether there are prosaic explanations for what he saw. Can't imagine, but perhaps. I also encourage everyone, wanted to go listen to the whole thing because he also describes craziness like one of these crafts controlling the light that was emanating from the four corners of the trapezoid shape so that it would illuminate the bottom of the craft but not the ground not the desert below so and then throw in the

shadow people there are numerous incidences of shadow people for him on this base. It's an amazing, it's an amazing story. Yeah, so I'm going to show a clip about the shadow people because that's really interesting. And I've got something to comment on about that as well, another military individual that I personally interviewed and spoke to who had a strikingly similar shadow entity happened at another nuclear installation. So I don't know what's going on with that, but something really interesting. The other thing you said about the light emanating and stuff like that was interesting. What I found fascinating with this one is he talked about how all the sound disappeared and the craft went over. And not just that.

He didn't remember the event. And that is so common for abductees to let it go. But not just abductees. I'm so sorry, Susan. But I talk about this in my lectures and in my books about, a gentleman named Scott Santa, who is a former radio serviceman for the National Guard, and his drive-in movie theater case. It's one of my most popular cases.

I personally investigated. And he also described what has been coined the Oz Factor when, like, time seems to stop. Noise completely disappears when a craft goes over you, this weird electrical feeling inside of you. And the way this guy's describing this is exactly the way that Scott. did, but it's not even that. It's the fact that he didn't remember the event happening until like Ross had to kind jog his memory because he had brought it forward somewhere at some point before, this like amnesia thing that happens.

That happened to Scott too. Scott and his friend saw this massive boomerang shaped craft over at drive-in movie theater back in the 70s in Kyoga Falls, Ohio. And they didn't remember it happening. like right after it happened. He brought his friend home and they never talked about it happening. Yet there were hundreds of people

at this drive-in movie theater who saw this thing, but nobody ever talked about it, nobody ever reported it. Nothing. Scott was the only one who had his memory triggered many years later after seeing a UFO on a book or something

and the memories came back. I was able to find another witness who saw the craft. So I know this event happened. And it happened the way that Scott said it because this other person described the same exact craft. So incredible. Incredible stuff.

But at the same time, I'm like, my God, was this what Joshua and his members, like, witnessed as well? Crash out there. Just the similarities are insane. Exactly. And it also begs the question, is there something else that's not being remembered? Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, what memories, what else happened? Right. That way. Right. I do think it's part of the experience for so many people that they are not memory wiped, but memory delayed, I guess, is the best way to describe it. It almost eventually always comes back or they wouldn't be telling their stories. But there is a period of time where they just let this incredible event go like it didn't happen.

Yeah. That wasn't my experience. I don't think that was your experience, but it's quite common. Yeah. No, I remembered mine. I never forgot it, anything like that. But yeah, you do have to wonder. And Yomai Michan asks an interesting question.

How many of us have actually witnessed something and we don't remember it? That's a scary thing to think. That's for sure. And that they have that ability. Whoever this is or whatever this is has the ability to do it. Yeah. What is that? A control system with Shock Valley would put it.

Um, some kind of control. Should we get to his shadow people? Oh, yes. That one. Okay. Okay, cool. Let's do that. And then, uh, yeah, I've got some interesting connections with the shadow people thing. Uh, great. For sure. So here we go. Here's Joshua talking about weird shadow entities at Nellus area two. If I remember right, it would have been about 2006. If I remember it was about 2006. So we, every night we would carry out an exercise. It would vary what the exercise was. But this night we were practicing recapture and assault operations.

And we had a dedicated training structure for it where it was an empty bunker. No weapons or anything in it. But it was just like the real thing. And I was on scene commander for that exercise. And when you were dealing with nuclear weapons. In normal CQB, you want to secure the perimeter of a building and you want to make sure that your backs are covered and all this. When you're dealing with nuclear weapons, you have to get custody of the weapon immediately. So you don't take the same safety or security measures you would take.

So we get to the structure. We set up the assault force. We haven't swept the desert behind us or to the sides of us because, again, you have to get to the weapon. But we have an oversight patrol. who's up on high ground and they're several hundred meters away and they are overlooking everything. They can see everything and they can see behind us and if there's a threat, they can engage it with a machine gun.

As our assault forces getting ready to go in, the Overwatch Patrol, Whiskey Levin, calls over the radio and they say, hey, be advised, you've got two individuals in the desert behind you. They're prone out in the desert behind you. And is this inside the facility or is it? in the desert outside the fence? This is inside the facility and it's in the desert in between streets.

So in between streets where the bunkers are at, there's a... So this is a serious breach of security? This is, yeah, this is as serious as it gets, but we assumed it was part of the exercise. Initially, we assumed it was part of the exercise. So I told the assault force go in and then I told the machine gunner on the Humvee that's parked in front of the doors, keep an eye out behind us. be aware, assuming again, it's an exercise. Within seconds, though, our security one, our flight chief comes with the radio, and he asks for Whiskey Levin to say again, to make their report again.

And Whiskey Levin, also assuming these are two individuals that got put out there, you know, because we would grab other patrols, they'd be bad guys, so that we would have someone to exercise against. So he tells them, oh, I've got eyes on two individuals. They're prone down in the desert. I forget the distance. It was within like 50 to 75 meters behind us though. And then Security 1 immediately calls control and he calls for an exercise terminate. And as soon as he says that I know,

oh, this is real world. Like something's happening. So you start putting live rounds into your guns at this stage. So we exercised with live rounds, which I know sounds crazy to some people. But yeah, we trained how you feel. fight. So I yank the assault force out of there. And my first job is I'm going to set up a sweeping element. Security 1 calls a Code Red response. Code Red being a security incident inside of the

facility, not on the perimeter. And that's that's as serious as it gets. Like that's an extremely serious event. So if you see these people, are you entitled to use lethal force to stop them? We are entitled to use lethal force. We would attempt first to apprehend them. But, I mean, we had enough leeway that if we even felt that they were hostile, we could have used lethal force. But you do want to first attempt to apprehend. But that being said, we were ready to use lethal force. Absolutely.

Do you see what these people or beings are? So we set up the sweeping element, pushed out into the desert, and the way that I organized people was one guy would have naked eyes, the guy next one would have night vision. That way you got two different modes of seeing. And then we also had the handheld thermals. Our Overwash Patrol that was seeing the whole thing, they could see the individuals on the thermal the entire time because they were giving us. on exactly what they were doing. Are they recording this? Is there any recording of the images?

No, the thermos we had didn't have recording capabilities, unfortunately. Sorry for interrupting. Keep on going, please. No worries. So as we are moving up, Whiskey 11, that's on Overwatch tells us that they're reacting to us, that they're basically adjusting to how we're approaching to constantly keep concealment between them,

and ourselves. That definitely tells me that this is, these are people, we assume they were people, they're intelligent, they don't want to be caught, they don't want to be found. So I've talked to one of the guys that was overwatching on the Humvee that was at the front of the structure, so not the machine gun team.

He told me that he was getting intermittent sights of the individuals on the thermals. So he was also seeing individual of thermals interminally, but because his angle wasn't as good as the Overwatch machine gun team, he couldn't keep them constantly inside of the thermals. But from our point of view, when we got to within 15 to 10 meters of the two individuals, Whiskey Levin called over the radio and said,

hey, they just disappeared. They just apparently just blinked out. we went to the position where they were at and you could see on the ground that there was scuff marks from dragging as if someone had been proned out and moving crawling with our handheld thermals you could see residual body heat on the ground as well that was quickly dissipating so how many seconds after they were there did you get there oh as soon as they told us that they disappeared I told my guys to rush forward because once you lose sight, you can't take the risk that they're going to, I would say, three to four seconds. Did you or any members of your team at any stage see these shadowy, humanoid-shaped beings? The only visuals was on the thermals. Nobody that I know got eyes on outside of the thermals. Wishing you could be there live for the big game, soaking up the atmosphere.

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Wow. That is so freaky. Isn't it crazy? Yeah. And it's back to that concept of as we learn to look differently, we see differently. We see different things. And here we are on the thermal. Guys, I was messaging Ryan privately in the studio app.

Like, I would freak out. I would freak out if I could actually see beings on thermal that I cannot see in real life. I don't know. It's like some weird predator cloaky thing. You got to work on that. I'm going to desensitize around that if this is how it is. Yeah.

It's so interesting. It's so interesting. Before we go further, I do want to thank Killer for Cash for the 777 super chat. Sometimes I feel like this is all one big game, except they're not really telling us anything and showing us pictures of chandeliers. I know what he's talking about.

We'll get there, Killer for cash. That has to do with our poll tonight. Okay. So let me start with this. In 2022, I interviewed a gentleman by the name of Adrian Reister. And Adrian was a nuclear weapons like security guard at Whiteman Air Force Base, which is in Missouri. and he had UFO incidents happen over the base while nuclear weapons were being transported across the base

UFOs showed out interesting but what I found more fascinating was he had a shadow entity experience in one of the most secure areas of the base and this happened in the same time period as Joshua at a different base which I found fascinating

so Adrian Reister if you guys want to go back into the archives you can find my episode with him while stationed at Whiteman he began witnessing strange dark human shaped figures what he called shadow people

with his own eyes this was not on thermal he was seeing these in the most secure areas of the base these apparitions often appeared during night shifts in or near secured bunkers that stored nuclear weapons. Adrian described them as solid black silhouettes that moved quickly,

sometimes gliding rather than walking, and radiating an overwhelming sense of dread. On more than one occasion, Reister claimed these figures appeared where no human should have been able to access, given the multiple layers of fencing cameras and armed patrols surrounding the site. He tells a very scary story in that episode with me. So again, guys, you could type in Adrian Reister, somewhere in the skies. That episode should pop up.

But I found it so interesting that these shadow entities are showing up at different nuclear installations where UFO activity has also taken place prior to or after the shadow entities. And that feeling is red. you know, that is also what the ghost folks say, but they get an interaction with a shadow figure. There is this overwhelming initial feeling of dread. So, gosh, what in the world is all this? And how does it work? I've seen shadow people. I'm not afraid to admit that.

Yeah. On my paranormal investigations, I've seen several. You know, I actually had an eye test done because I thought I had like a floater. or something in my eyes where the shadow, like it appeared as a shadow, but it was just something like showing up in my periphery or something. So I literally had an eye test.

I was fun. But I have seen these dark, pitch black, mantah black voids of darkness in the form of a human. Yeah, darker than black is how people describe them. Did you have the feeling of dread, or was that not your experience? Not dread, but definitely not.

good, not like peaceful. Yes. The only entities I've ever, are apparitions, I guess, that I've seen that were, like, positive were like a gray, misty white sort of appearance, I guess, or straight up like humans with like clothes on. I've seen those too. So, wow. I'm saying a lot tonight. You can see all of this in my television show, Haunted Heart. soul premiering next year but yeah tell paul we need some thermal added to the work you all are doing

we have it we do have thermal cameras yep so maybe i'll have to bust those out at some point let's come out let's see what you get yeah yeah we've got them um so cool uh what an interesting really nice super chats oh my gosh thank you guys michel thanks as always thank you michel we truly do appreciate Jamie. Jamie, I wonder if that overwhelming such a dread is coming from radiation or heavy EMF. Ooh, interesting. Good question. That's a good question. Definitely. And I can attest like EMF is huge in the paranormal world. And we've picked it up and we've cross-referenced it with thermal stuff and try to triangulate the phenomena. And we've had very interesting results. So that is possible. Yeah, that it could induce a dread-like feeling maybe. I don't. no but thank you guys thank you so much for those um i want to get to know this joshua better i want to

hear more of the stories because apparently um over time they encountered something like i where did i have it here something like a dozen experiences whether it's UFOs or shadow people I have an idea. I have an idea. You have an idea. Interview him? Why don't you interview him? Interesting.

Guess what, guys. I will be interviewing Joshua Shelton this upcoming Tuesday on the Summer on this guy's podcast. So if you have any listener questions for him, please send them to me, email them to me.

Email is in the show notes. Ryan. Sprag 51 at gmail.com You can put it in the comments of this live stream. I'll be sure to be checking that before Tuesday as well. So if you want further

for him to further expand on some of these experiences, maybe experiences he didn't talk about with Ross Colthart, now is your chance. I'm going to be speaking to Joshua this Tuesday. So yeah, give me your questions.

I cannot wait to speak to him. Really nice guy. We've been talking back and forth. for about a day now, and he's really excited to answer any questions you guys might have. So get those to me before Tuesday, and I'll try my best to get them to him. And if you are a Patreon subscriber, you get priority to ask our guests' questions. So why not join for as low as $1 a month? You get to be put in the front of the line to ask Joshua your listener questions.

Wow. Wow. So much. So so much. mention he did report these things to the FBI. He had a meeting, a classified meeting with the FBI to discuss these things. So I firmly believe this man. This is not like hearsay. This is not something he's making up for attention. Like I firmly believe Joshua. He comes across so genuine and authentic. And I can't wait to actually sit down and dissect this with him as well. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be great. Oh, it's going to be great. Thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah, you'll be in, you'll be in Italy.

I'll be in motion. Yeah, Tuesday's a hard day, which you guys, you guys can carry on without me for this one. Keep calm and carry on. You'll be knee-deep in Seoul Symposium at this point. I'm ready. All right. Well, that's it. I've got a couple things to discuss with the audience here before we go, Suzanne. But is there anything I'm missing before I let you go and you gallivant off to Northern Italy with your husband? Not a thing. Everybody stay tuned, Ryan and I'll be figuring out the best way to summarize the Sol Symposium this year and what we'll be putting it out there. Wish us luck. Yeah, it's going to be interesting to say the least, to say the least. Awesome. Where can people find you if they want to reach out to you, Suzanne, if that's possible?

Sure. Facebook's the best. And it's Suzanne Westerman Landers on Facebook. And you can go to Ryan and then go through his friends if you forget the names and find me there. You can also email me, especially if you have a witness account you would like to tell, and have Ryan's got the open line right now for those. So that's at Suzanne Landers at me.com. Perfect, perfect. And in retrospect, I'll put it in the show notes as well. I should have been doing that all of long. All along, I apologize.

But yeah, awesome, awesome. Yeah, we will have a new witness accounts episode coming up in the very near future. I've had a few submissions as of late. I can't wait to bring those to you guys. as well, but awesome. Suzanne, I'll let you go back into the chat to get everyone's comments ready as we close things out.

But thank you, as always, for your insights. Oh, you're so welcome. So we truly do appreciate it. All right. We'll talk to you soon. All right, guys. There it is. Another live stream in the books.

We covered so much with you guys tonight. And we're almost at the two-hour mark, so I will get you out of here before that. Amanda, thank you so much. Thank you so much for the super. chat. Great show. Looking forward to Ryan's upcoming interview and reporting from the Soul Foundation. Yeah, we are busy, guys. We are booked and busy bringing you the latest UFO news and the breaking stories as they come in from the Soul Symposium. We will be hearing

exclusively from Suzanne, who will have boots on the ground there. I cannot wait. Thank you so much, biologist for the Yahshua interview. Joshua, excuse me. It's how he spells it. It's a little different. It's a little, I think he's Spanish, maybe. I could be wrong on that. But thank you. Thank you so much, guys. We've reached our goal. You know what that means.

You are getting, oh, the poll. Weep the poll, the poll, the poll, the poll, the poll, the poll. Let me refresh and get to the poll. What a controversial poll I decided to do. I'm stirring shit up over here. I asked over on YouTube, who do you trust least in the UFO world? And your choices were Elizando.

James T. Lekatsky, Christopher Mellon, or David Grush. And the results. Out of 73 votes, 60% of you, trust Elizondo of the least. Trust him least, I should say.

18% James Lackatsky, 15% Chris Mellon, 7% David Grush. Interesting results. Why? I want to know why. Put it in the comments below the video. Why do you least trust these individuals?

And I'm not like making accusations or anything, but these seem to be the people that keep coming up that people say they don't trust. And I'm curious as to why. All right. So let me know in the comments as well. But wow. Wow. Those were some interesting results to say the least.

Kona Blue is your code word, guys. Let me put it up on the screen one more time for you here somewhere. Kona with a K. Kona with a K. It's okay, Suzanne. It's okay. Close enough, close enough. There we go.

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Dropping in just a couple hours, guys, you have our brutally honest review of the Shag Harbor UFO Expo. I was in Shag Harbor, Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, I should say, just last week with my very good friend and colleague, Paul Kimball. and we attended the Shag Harbor UFO Expo, and we have a full review for you guys that is coming out on the podcast in just a couple hours and on YouTube as well tomorrow, Monday, October 20th. So be sure to check that out wherever you get your podcasts are right here on the YouTube channel.

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that I think people should check out that are the most credible and empathetic and really shine the abduction phenomenon in a respectful light. So be sure to go back here on YouTube. watch that at your leisure. And I also was a special guest on the debriefing podcast with Elijah, Daniel, and Vanessa Michaels. This was a lot of fun. These guys are awesome.

So awesome. Two of my newest friends out there in Los Angeles, just killing it, killing it, killing it. They're musicians, their DJs, their composers, their YouTube personalities, you name These two have done it. They are so awesome. And we had such a great, fantastic eye-opening discussion on UFOs, UAPs, and aliens. So be sure to check out the debriefing podcast. I put a link in the show notes to the Spotify version of the episode or just type in debriefing with Elijah and Vanessa.

And you will find that as their latest episode. We had a blast. So be sure to check it out. All right. That's going to do it. it guys what a show little over two hours we almost came in under the two hour mark but

leave it to me to keep gabbing on rate and review subscribe like hit notifications all that YouTube stuff podcast stuff I love you guys I don't know if there will be a live stream next Sunday I will be at London Comic Con where I have an interesting

little experiment I might do while up there we'll see we'll see if it all pans out i don't know how busy i'll be while i'm at london comicon um things get a little crazy at these things as you well know but i'll be handing out flyers for the podcast and trying to garner some interest in in that as well but i want to try to do a special video at london comic con but either way i'll be posting photos and little instagram stories throughout the event as well. So you can check that out on my social media, Twitter, Instagram,

Blue Sky, Facebook, you name it. I'll be posting it everywhere. But we'll see. We'll see. I think I'm traveling back that day next Sunday. If I'm not too tired, maybe I'll do like an ask me anything or kind of a debrief from the event. I don't know. We shall see. We shall see.

But if I don't see you guys next week, have a wonderful, wonderful week and weekend. as we move into the Halloween spooky season. I'll be on the lookout for that special alien horror movie video coming to you this week as well. I'll see you in just a couple hours on the podcast, too. And thank you. Thank you again to all of our super chats

and super stickers and all of you. Our regulars are new people. I truly appreciate all of you guys for being here with Suzanne and I tonight. So I will leave you as always with our mantra here. and that is keep your feet on the ground, but never stop searching summerless skies. Have a good night. Keep looking up. There's nothing to hide at all.

Specter vision radio. Now receiving frequency. A padlock, right? You and I look at a padlock that's on like a locker and it's got the dial and there's like three numbers, right? And the first number, you have to hit it. And the second number, you have to go around and pass it once and hit the second number. Then the third number is where the thing unlocks, right?

we put so much onus on that number. The numbers, the numbers, the numbers. But if you like scrape those numbers off and replace them with like emojis or with Arabic or dots or something, it's basically all doing the same thing. Maybe religion or all these stories, these spiritual stories,

are all sort of like the different iterations of those symbols that I was just talking about. One is numbers, one is emojis, one is glyphs, one is dots. But it's all kind of operating. completely the same underneath. And that's just basically giving people symbols or stories or guide rails or guideposts to sort of like, get them there.

The numbers, the numbers, the numbers. It's all doing the same shit underneath, unlocking the things. And those three things that you have to hit are one unlocks the gears and that lock opens up. And what is that lock? I don't know. That's a different question.

I'm not answering that one.