Somewhere in the Skies - NEW Pentagon UAP Video RELEASED, Banks Prepare for ALIENS, DISCLOSURE in July?

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

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Konichua. What's up, guys? Right? It's Frank here from somewhere in the live stream. That was my sad attempt at saying hello in Japanese. I'm in Japan still. Oh my gosh. I've been here for about three weeks.

It's been incredible. far, an adventure to say the least, but I have to do these live streams. I got to talk to you guys. There's so much going on in the world of UFOs, and it doesn't stop just because I am literally on the other side of the world from most people. I know. It is 6.11 a.m. here in the future, Monday. I know most of you are still in your Sunday evenings, so I still want to thank you for

spending your time with us tonight on somewhere in the live stream as Suzanne and I break down all the latest UFO and UAP news for you guys and boy is there a lot going on oh man um there's one story I'm not even sure if I want to bring it up um because I don't want to get sued for slander uh but we'll see we'll see I'll have to ask our lawyer it's okay too or not but we'll get there we'll get there guys welcome to all of our regulars I see you in the chat. It's so good to see you guys here. Yeah, if you have any questions about what it's like to live in Japan, throw them in the chat.

I've got another two and a half weeks here. It's been an adventure, like I said, to say the least. I do, if he's watching and or listening, want to give a very special shout out to my newfound friend, Darren, and listener of the show. I got to meet up with my buddy Dan. and last night here in Osaka, Japan. We went out for a night I will, I somewhat forgot, but we'll also remember forever. We went to an Isakaya, which is basically here in Japan. It's, you know, like a bar that does a ton of like chicken skewers and beef skewers and stuff like that.

You know, these places that all the businessmen in Japan go after a 12-hour day at work, because these people work like crazy here. I respect the hell out of it. And they go and just, you know, eat and drink the night away. And that's what Darren and I did last night. So, like I said, 6 a.m. here got home just a few hours ago. So your boys a little hungover. if you can't tell by my raspy voice,

I feel like I'm two octaves lower than I've ever been in my life. I kind of like it. I kind of like it. There's no longer that ASMR feel of Ryan Sprague here. So yeah, yeah. How good is the food from 7-Eleven? Eric asks, dude. All right.

So this is a big thing here in Japan. Convenience stores or covenies, if they call them here, are huge. Now, you know, in the States and even in like the UK where I currently live, convenience stores, they're, you know, where you just pop in to grab whatever, a Gatorade or a bag of chips or they are there for your convenience. But here it is a part of the culture. There is the top three are Family Mart, Lawson, and 7-Eleven.

And when you think of 7-Eleven, like you're thinking what I'm thinking, you know, Like, again, you go there at three in the morning to get a beer or whatever. These are like on every single street corner. There is a Lawson next to a family mart. There's a family mart across the street from a family mart. There's a family mart on the corner. That family mart is talking to this family mart. That family mart is related to that family mark.

It's incredible. And you can get an amazing like pre-made food there. It's honestly like been a godsend. you know, for someone who doesn't speak the language here, who, you know, it's hard to go into a restaurant and try to communicate. Um, so these stores are there and you can just go get like a pre-made meal of chicken katsu and rice and all your everything you could possibly think of. They've got spaghetti and chicken parmesan. They've got pizza. They've got everything up to like, you know, you're, you're quite essential Japanese dishes as well. So yeah, shout out to

to 7-Eleven it has been a godsend so has the conveyor belt sushi sushi row and kura are the two top conveyor belt sushi places here and i think jane and i have been there to both of those at least 10 times now um again like japan is huge it is a huge place billions of people here and like there's so much food everywhere you turn um but conveyor belt sushi my favorite You literally just push a button, comes down the belt, you eat it. You, you know, you order them as you eat. It's genius, genius, genius, genius. And it's so cheap.

It's so cheap for quality food. So I cannot recommend it enough. I do want to, I know this is Japan Hour here. I want to share some awesome stuff that I've got so far. I thought you guys might like that. I'm a big Star Wars fan, if you can't tell. And I got this really cool book. It's literally like a guide to Star Wars.

And it is all in Japanese. Japanese script. So no, I can't really read it. But it's a collector's item for sure. So I had to get that. Another big thing in Japan, they're called gotchas. Again, just like convenience stores. They're on every corner.

Think like those corridor machines in the United States. States or the UK where you put a quarter in and you get a little toy or whatever. Here, you put the money in and you don't know what you're going to get. It's like a mystery. They'll have images on the front of the machine of like all the different gifts that are in the machine, but you don't know what you're going to get. It's super fun. You know, it's frustrating because you're not, you're paying for something that you might

not like, but hey, it's part of the fun, part of the mystery. But your boy got really lucky when he did one of the gotcha. and he got this. Isn't that so cool? It's literally a flyer. Hold on. I think, yeah. And it's got a tractor beam too on the bottom.

I am in heaven here, guys. Everything is UFO in aliens here. Oh, my God. I'm going to post some photos on my social media. There's this, how, that is bright. There is this place called Mondrake, I believe it's called. that is like a used bookstore and toys and all that. And they have throughout the stores these huge Roswell aliens in glass tubes.

Like they're in a secret laboratory or something. It's so cool. I'll post the photos on my social media. Don't look into the light. I will not look into the light again, my friend. I do not want to get abducted. That's for sure. Ryan, are you taller than everyone there?

Sadly, Juan, I am not. Yeah, I will say this. The men are much taller than I anticipated. So, yeah, I'm a little insecure here. I'm not going to lie. As kind of the token white boy in the neighborhood of Osaka I'm living in, I stand out like a very pasty sort of. That's for sure. That is for sure.

But look, there's no getting around it. Being a foreigner in a country that is somewhat isolated. You know, Japan is an incredible place. I fell in love with it the first time I came here. I'm falling in love with it even more being here again. But they, how do I put it, diplomatically? they don't they're being overrun by tourists at the moment they're hitting a tourism boom like they've never seen before and um the infrastructure here just cannot handle it um there's just not enough space they're islands

and they're they're not as big as people think um and you know it is kind of unfortunately like in the united states uh they don't look too kindly on foreigners it's just the way things are And you can't change it. It's their country. If they want that to change, they need to fight for that politically. The elections here in Japan are going on right now. You might even hear some bullhorn stuff going on in my neighborhood because it's prime election time.

And they can't hand out flyers or do any of that sort of campaigning stuff here. It's illegal. But what they can do is drive by your neighborhood at 8 in the morning. and shout from a bullhorn for an hour and a half. So, yeah, get ready for that. But, yeah, all this to say, it's a little xenophobic here. I'm not going to lie. They do not look kindly on foreigners, especially Chinese, which is sad,

but also white people too. Again, at first you come here and everyone's staring at you. it's changed a lot like 10 years ago if a white person came to Japan they immediately thought you were like a celebrity or something like Tom Cruise things have changed a little bit but

yeah like I get looks everywhere I go here and not for the best a lot of the time especially the old men in Japan they really don't like me

being here and they will say things so uh it is probably the only time in my life as a white at a sexual male that i will feel any sort of um oppression i guess i don't even um i feel like that's offensive it's not oppressive like it's not like they're you know kicking me out of places or anything but um i'm dicking myself in a hole here i'm gonna shut up um yeah it's it's it's interesting. It's interesting living in another country. Again, I thought Scotland was bad. But yeah, yeah, it's interesting to say the ways. Back to my gifts. Back to my gifts. You guys have heard me ramble enough. I got this guy. I'm a big Ultraman fan. For those of you who don't know who Ultraman is, look him up. He's one of the most famous heroes here in Japan. You know,

they've remade it, Americanized it in the West with shows like Superhuman Samurai. Cyber Squad, Power Rangers is another big one. If you didn't know, the original Power Rangers series in the U.S. was used from recycled footage of old Japanese superhero shows. And then they would film, you know, the teenagers in America, they would film their section. But all the battles, all the things in costume,

that was old material from like the 80s. So that's why if you ever watched Power Rangers, all the battle scenes looked super gritty and old. And all the kids scenes were like, looked shiny and new. That's a big thing. That's a big thing here. But Ultraman is one of my favorites. And the other big one is Common Rider, the masked rider. He's my favorite, favorite, favorite.

I'm still looking for the perfect toy of Common Rider. I will get it before I leave here. And I'll post that. Look him up. He looks super cool. I just, I love the aesthetics of like the superheroes in Japan. They're so, so cool. So different from the United States and whatnot.

It's not these big bulky, you know, Avengers type things. They're like super slick martial artists and stuff. Really cool, really cool. I got this little C3PO. I love him. He's, there we go. He's a keychain. Key chains are big here.

Okay. Okay, this has to be my favorite thing I've got. I was, there's this place called Village Vanguard, and it's, you know, kind of like Spencer's Gifts in the United States are like a hot topic. You know, you go and find these fun, weird gifts. They got a bunch of rock and roll stuff, stuff like that, alternative lifestyles, I guess. And they had a UFO section in one of the Village Vanguard places that I went to,

in Tokyo yesterday. I was in Tokyo yesterday. I probably should have mentioned that. I was in Tokyo, took a bullet train back home to Osaka and then got home a few hours ago. That's just, Darren, what am I going to do with you, man? What am I going to do with you? But when I was in Tokyo on one of the shelves in a UFO section, I found this. The original UFOs, generals, pilots, and government officials go on the record by Leslie Kane, all in Japanese. So cool. Again, like, can I read it? No.

Is it something I'm going to treasure forever? Yep. It's so cool. It's so cool. Like, I just, I love the cover. Whoops. I forgot. The books are backwards here.

I should mention that. The way they read, it's backwards and it's like top to bottom. It's not front words left or right, like in the United States. So, yeah. Again, another thing I'm learning. But yeah, I just thought this was so, so cool, and I will treasure this forever. You know, a lot of people have, when they go to places for vacation and stuff, they like to get certain things. For me, it's books, which is probably a horrible thing because then I have dozens and dozens of books that I have to look around the world at this point.

But, hey, it's worth it. Okay, I think that's it. Oh, no. This t-shirt. Viva LaMort. This came from my buddy Darren. Again, shout out to him. He got me this incredible t-shirt by his artist friend.

I'm going to put up the t-shirt. This is the front. It just says Viva La Morte. But on the back, see if I can share screen this. I can. This is what's on the back of the t-shirt. I see that Oops, sorry

I surprised her there I didn't mean to do that I'm sorry On the back is this really cool image Of the Hitachi building Which is here in Osaka Very famous tower It's like Osaka's Tokyo Tower

Basically But the logo is from bad brains Which is one of my favorite punk bands from back in the day. So they did a collaboration with bad brains. This t-shirt is actually banned in Osaka for reasons, I'm not sure. But yeah, I was able to, Darren was able to get me this t-shirt. So I've got it in black, and I'm so, so, so thankful for that. He got me Japanese cheesecake. I mean, the dude was just awesome. He was so cool. And then when we were at the Izakaya

last night he noticed a celebrity that was in the restaurant with us from Japan. She is a J. vlogger, a Japanese vlogger here on YouTube. And her name I want to get it right is Aki Dearest.

I don't know if anyone in the chat watches Aki Dearest, but I went to her channel and she's got 3 million subscribers. But yeah, she was sitting right in the front of the restaurant. So shout out to akki dearest if you happen to be watching this um it was cool for darren who knew who she was and now i've been introduced to her as well so yeah i'll have to look her up look her up subscribe

aki dearest on youtube um holy hell enough at japan hour let's get to ufo stuff you guys are probably like what is going on here um super chat and super stickers are open tonight if you would like to help out the show. We would greatly appreciate it. I actually am doing a goal tonight of 10 superchats of any kind. I don't care. A dollar, $2, $5, whatever,

guys, help out the show. And if we reach our goal of 10 super chats, I will do a special live stream episode here on the streets of Japan. I'm also going to a location of a famous Japanese UFO event.

The Utsur Zura Boone incident, which happened back in the, gosh, 1800s, I want to say, 1600s? Oh my gosh, I'm getting my history all mixed up now. It's a famous Japanese UFO case. And I was able to actually locate the beach where I believe this event happened, where something washed ashore that Japanese fishermen found. And it was unlike anything they've ever seen before. It is probably the most famous Japanese UFO case.

Ryan, have you seen a UFO or drone in Japan yet? Not yet, Juan. Not yet. But I do have plans to go on a skywatch in Nara, Japan. Some Darren and I might try to hit up before I leave here. But I'm actually heading up to Hokkaido on Thursday here in Japan. Hokkaido is like super north in Japan, very rural mountains. and I'm going to be staying in Sapporo, Japan,

and then traveling to Hokkaido to do some accompanying my partner as she does her PhD work here in Japan. That's why I'm here. I probably should have mentioned that at the top. My partner is getting a PhD in Japanese history, specifically the Ainu people of Japan, who are the indigenous people here. So they're not actually Japanese.

It's a long story. but that's the research she's doing and it's afforded us this incredible opportunity and I will be forever grateful to her for letting me tag along for this next month and a half or so but yeah I'm going to be traveling up to Hokkaido

where the skies are clear men and I am super excited very very excited I will definitely be looking for UFOs while I'm out there that's for sure that is for sure okay let's

get to okay yep super chat super stickers are open um yep yep thank you susan i knew i was forgetting something oh my god the hangover is real that's why i got coffee um this is cool guys um before i get to the code word for tonight which i need you to go do something special um we have a very cool offer for you guys. Coming up in just, gosh, under five days now is the 2026 UAP detection and tracking summit. This is a virtual conference that is taking place online, and I am very excited for this. I cannot wait to watch it. And I was the, wow, can't talk. The UAP summit reached out to me, and they said, hey, would you be up to promoting this? event for us. And I get asked to do things like this all the time. There are certain events I don't

wish to promote for obvious reasons in the UFO field. Just things I don't think I personally would want to platform. But this is definitely one that I want to platform. I think it's going to be an incredible event. And I really hope you guys will check it out. The 2026 UAP detection and tracking summit. It's taking place February 7th through the 8th. I'm going to share screen here in just a moment, the website so you can take a look at some of the other speakers. But I have a very special offer for you guys, 35% off tickets right now. If you go to that website that you see on your screen there, Ryan Sprague.PursuingX.com. Ryan Sprague.com.

There is a link in the show notes of this episode as well if you just want to go click that and use the code Summit 35. and you will get 35% off tickets to that. But let's go ahead and share screen quickly because we got to get to the news. Poor Suzanne. I'm going to go through some of this with you guys. So yeah, I'm an affiliate for this. So if you use that code and use this website, you get a discount to tickets. I'll be watching.

I know Suzanne's going to be watching a lot of people. They reached out to me yesterday and said, we've had a bunch of people sign up through your affiliate page. So thank you. And I want to thank them for even thinking of me. And they're giving me a free ticket to watch. So I'm super excited about that. But yeah, this is basically an event that's going to be talking about aerospace safety and whatnot.

And detecting things in our skies that presumably should not be there. Why we need to understand our skies, what's in our skies. So it's bringing together leading scientists, researchers. and stuff like that. I mean, these speakers are so cool. You've got Eric Berlinson that's going to be talking. James Fowler, Gene Greeneker, David, Dominguez Hooper. You've got Richard Hoff, Fred Paulison, Beatrice Villorell will be speaking as well.

The Tedisco brothers are going to be talking about their nightcrawler technology. Robert Spearing from Mufon, Rich Hoffman, from the, the SCU, Massimo Tio Dorani. Wow, I could not get his name right. I apologize. So yeah, yeah, tons of speakers are going to be talking at this virtual event. So I definitely think you guys should check that out. Again, let's get this back on the screen.

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Again, your code word for today is Dorito. That will make more sense later in the episode as well. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you, thank you for that. longest preamble in history. My God. So, without further ado, we are going to finally,

28 minutes in, get to the UFO news. And she's on a time limit tonight, so I don't want to waste any more time. Let's bring her in. It is the one. It is the only. She's the Lenders, hello. Hi, stranger.

How are you? I am good. I'm good. We were talking off air. We have like an hour. window to talk to each other every day now because of the time differences. Yes, we have one little block of time each morning and one little block of time every afternoon and all questions go fast fire and those two things because somebody's going to sleep.

I know. It's like word vomit. I'm like, I got to get this in. This is what happened today. This is what we're talking about on the live stream. I'll see you tomorrow. Bye. Right. Oh, my gosh. It's worth it though. These life experiences on these kinds of trips, they're irreplaceable. They are. And, you know, Darren, last night my newfound friend and listener we were talking and I was telling him about my travels where I'm headed next after Japan and everything and I told him I haven't slept in my own bed in almost three and a half months and he's like dude how do you do it and I'm like coffee baby coffee coffee and a prayer um but no I I love it and like you said like you know when these

opportunities arise you just have to take them in life and that's not I'm not talking about traveling to another country. Like that just so happens to be what I'm doing right now. But like even the smallest things. Like take a leap. Take a leap. Like just do it. There's so many times where I'm like, I don't want to do that or I just don't feel like it. And I think that's like a product of the COVID era too. Like we get so used to like being in our homes and just doing stuff like this. Like no offense to you, me or the chat. But like this is how we live our lives now through screenings. a lot for good and for bad. But like when those opportunities arise to like be face to face with someone and have a conversation and go to a bar in a country that you don't speak the language,

like just do it. It'll be a story to tell. Yeah. And I can tell you I'm significantly older than you are, but I can tell you when you get to where I am in life, you look back and these trips and these experiences, even though you might be dead tired, that's where real value is. Of course, or other things as well. But don't discount those moments because they matter. Absolutely. Absolutely. And you are not that much older than me. Stop it. Don't do that. Don't do that. But you're too humble. But yes, you are right. You are right. Like the older I get too, I'm like just you have to take these. You do. Play hard and sleep hard. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. I love it. Well, hey, we have compiled some really interesting.

seed stories. What a week? It didn't start out this way. The beginning of this week, I'm thinking, oh, my God, we're going to be playing Tiddly wings again. That always happens. Boom, it just exploded. I know.

I always get so worried. And then, like, the day before we go live, yeah, everything happens. So I guess we'll begin in New Jersey. That's true. Let's do. Let's do. It's a great story. Awesome.

Let me pull up the old slideshow. We got a cool story from our. buddy Tom Thompson over on X. I highly suggest people go give him a follow his Twitter handle, X handle, whatever you call that website, is Cortex

underscore 0. Really cool stuff that he posts over there. And he posted this really cool story about how New Jersey is becoming the first state to fund UFO research. So I'll read a little bit here.

Recently in New Jersey, Governor Phil Murphy has officially signed historic aviation safety legislation into law, making New Jersey the first state in the nation to explicitly fund university-based research into UAP. The bill is part of a broader aviation safety package sponsored by Senator Raj Merkaji. The funding $2.5, oh my gosh, I didn't read this ahead of time, $2.5 million appropriated annually to end. J public universities. 22 million. Yeah, it's a refilling bucket.

Refilling bucket. So let's keep in mind how much money was given to the United States government to investigate UFOs. 22 million, apparently. And here we have 2.5 million that, like you said, is reoccurring in universities to study UFOs. That's crazy. Yeah. The goal, Tom writes here, is to establish. a dedicated center for study of UAP. You know, the topic's been stigmatized for so long and locked behind

classification, but integrating UAP study into academic and aviation safety programs, it legitimizes the data and demand scientific answers. So while the federal government drags its feet on transparency, New Jersey is stepping up to do the science themselves. So go New Jersey. From a perspective of aerial safety. And I don't understand why that hasn't been sort of the cinch pen in all of this for a decade. Because for a decade with modern tech, we know what's happening in the air, and it's not safe.

And the whistleblowers say it's not safe. And they have their lives flashing before their eyes constantly. And yet here we are. And now Little New Jersey is going to step up to the plate where the big boy is missing the ball. Exactly. You know, Ryan Graves, he'll be speaking at the UAP summit as well. And that's his big thing with his company too. So like, yeah, yeah, I think, you know, this is such, it's what I like to call the gateway into UFOs. These tracking, detection, UAP, drones, I hate to use that word. But like that is a way to get people like, oh, yeah, our skies should be safe. I fly all the time. I want to make sure we're not flying. into a quote-unquote UAP. And then that gets people interested.

So I think, you know, this is a good way and a good gateway for people to get interested in the UAP topic. And academically, I mean, how long have we strived to get UFOs in the classroom? And again, I know I brought it up in the past and I'm going to keep doing it. My book, somewhere in the skies, is currently being taught in two universities in the United States. That is very rare. Very rare. And, you know, granted, it's in one's in a religious studies course. That's fine.

And the other is in something else as well. But like, that's how you get people interested. I did a virtual conference with the students of one of the universities. And it was one of the most incredible experiences of my life. The questions these students were asking. They were so excited to talk about the topic of UFOs. So if, let me ask you this is it. Let's say you went back to school right now or go back to the days of university when you did go.

If you saw a course being offered on UFOs, who's not going to sign up for that? I know. Who wouldn't? And don't you think it's interesting that one university is packaging it inside religious curriculum? I think that's an act of bravery because over and over again as we study the impacts of catastrophic disclosure or versus control disclosure, We hear that catastrophic disclosure might rock religion to the ground. And yet somebody's brave. Somebody's stepping up trying to meet the moment. Absolutely. Shout out to Rich McCarty.

If you happen to be watching this, he's the professor who reached out to me and asked if he could put my book in his curriculum. And he was a speaker at a nomicon a couple years ago. And he gave an incredible talk about religion and UFOs. He's a pastor who teaches at a university as well. And yeah, I will be forever grateful for that. And yeah. And your students are too. Yeah, I hope so.

Thank you for saying that. And, you know, I think UFOs get a bad rap when it comes to the word religion. Because a lot of people are like, UFOs are religion. It's a belief system. It's a cult. You know, and it can be. It definitely can do. But I think we need to also separate religion and UFOs and realize, like,

they can live in harmony and not be considered a cult either. You know. Yeah. Exactly. It's not one or the other. Exactly. Yep. Yep.

Cool story. Really cool story. Juan says, is that the home of the Jersey devil? It is the pine woods of New Jersey. I got to go hunting for that next time. My two best friends live in New Jersey. So maybe you will do a, oh my God, that would be the live stream of the century. I'm going to put a GPS on you for that.

that though. So missing. Yeah, please do. You might as well put a GPS on me here if I keep hanging out with Darren too, because I'm going to end up like the yakuza are going to kidnap me or something. I'll come looking for you. We'll get a posse going.

Thank you. Thank you. Well, speaking of, I guess, mafia ties and criminals. Let's get to our next story. I had to

I had to help yourself I could not I could not this story has been making the rounds online it's kind of gone viral even outside of the UFO world because some big claims are being made right now by one individual one individual there's a gentleman named Mark Christopher Lee

from the UK who is a documentary filmmaker I have never seen any of his films. I'll have to check them out at some point. But however, it's not his films that are in the news right now. It is a claim that he's made on TikTok about Donald Trump is going to disclose the truth about UFOs and aliens. And there is a exact date that this is going to happen. Suzanne, I'm going to play to TikTok. from Mark, where he says the date and why he believes this is going to happen and how he got

this information. So let me go ahead and play that quick. And then we will discuss this as best we can. I'm sure you do, as you should. Here's the two TikToks that he's put up. I'm going to play them back to back here. Check these out, guys. Okay, massive breaking bombshell news.

Remember that Washington Trump administration insider that told me that President Trump had already written the speech ready to go for UFO disclosure this year. Well, now he's got back to me and told me the exact date. And you can hold me to account for this, okay? It's going to be July the 8th. Why July the 8th, you might ask? It's basically the 79th anniversary since the Roswell. release. So that's why and he's basically going to be saying yeah Roswell was real we captured a flying saucer we captured occupants. This is the truth that he's

going to reveal and we have an ongoing program alongside the aliens reverse engineering that technology and they're living you know amongst us basically. This is the truth that's going to be released on July the 8th. What are your thoughts? Thank you. So there's a lot going on at the moment, especially on X, regarding UFO disclosure on July the 8th, 2026. This is the date I've been told by an insider at the Pentagon who has been in touch. They have been vetted. And they have told me that President Trump has already written his UFO disclosure speech and is set to declare to the world that we are not alone on July the 8th,

the anniversary of the Roswell Crash Press Conference. So do all UFO roads lead to Roswell? Was this the start of it all? Let me know your thoughts. And let me know if you think President Trump will wait to July the 8th or whether being the maverick he is, whether he will jump the gun and just say it one day at a press conference maybe when he's slagging off the fake news.

We are not alone. Who knows? I really appreciate your support and all your comments about UFOs. UFOs. And the truth, it's been a personal quest for me and I really hope that July the 8th will bring answers to us all. Thank you. I really hope so too, Mark. He's such a nice guy. He does. And he reek well too. But here's my problem. First of all, everyone needs to keep in mind that presidents and their administrations have banks and banks of potential speeches that may never be given. They keep hot topics briefed, so to speak, and ready to go in the event of a quick

need for those things. Could this be one of them? Maybe, you know, I don't know. The second thing that worries me is, you know, I'm like a dog with a bone when one of these things comes out. I start digging backwards. Who are this man's contacts? Who's advising? What can I find that would help me lend some credibility to the claim, I can't find them. I can't find a connector anywhere. Now, do film people have behind the scenes, folks? They do. But that doesn't help us here today. So I'm going to put a question mark on July 18 on my calendar. I'm not going to dismiss it completely. I can see with his personality and a bit of a need for attention that he would enjoy being the disclosure president if that were able to happen for him.

And I don't envy, I mean, I don't begrudge him that. I don't say that with snark. I say that with, that would be a way to place yourself in history and maybe a cleaner light than where he may find himself in history. So I don't know. Those are my thoughts on it. I tried to dig us out something that we could sink her teeth into in terms of who might be talking to him.

it's not out there. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, this is the problem. People get told things all the time by quote unquote insiders. It's literally what we've been talking about for the past five, six, seven, eight years at this point. All these intelligence people coming out, the Elizondos, the grushes, all these people, they have really interesting things to say.

But when it comes to brass tax, like, and look, A lot of the things that these individuals have said have come true. So, like, we cannot. Get the baby out. Yeah, you can't discredit that. But there's other things, too, that some of these people have said, that just never come to fruition. And this is the problem with making a kind of prophetic proclamation as this, as Mark, yeah, Mark has, is giving a specific date. It's just like all these prophets to give dates on the end of the world.

is like it'll come to pass and then there will be an excuse as to why it didn't happen that day you know um and it already sounds like he's kind of saying that when in that second tic-tok he's like will it happen sooner um will he be the maverick and do it sooner or will it happen at all um who knows july 8th i think is a very interesting date like he mentioned roswell happened around then you've got the you know the kenneth arnold sightings happened just a few weeks before that um So it would be a really interesting time. But then I go back and look at like these past interviews with Trump when he has been asked about the UFO topic. And the guy is like either he's the best actor in the world and playing it dumb or he is that dumb.

And he he doesn't even know the difference between Roswell and Area 51. Like dude, those are two different states where these things happen. So I don't know. And that's not because he's a Republican. I would say the same thing if it was a Democratic president too. These people are so temporary that they're not going to tell them the truth about all of this unless it is time to disclose for a very specific reason. Maybe it needs to happen. I wouldn't hold my breath.

All work low pace says it does happen. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're fine. You are fine. But if it doesn't happen, I'll be surprised. Exactly. Exactly.

And a lot of people in the chat are saying, too, like maybe this is going to be a distraction from the release of the Epstein files, which came out. It's already horrible enough. Yeah. Should I bring up what we talked about off air or not? What do you think? How brave are you?

Who was that comedian he used to say? How brave an old boy are you? I don't know who, but I'm going to say. say yes, I am. Roy Mercer. Okay. There, and I'm going to preface this with, I don't know this for a fact. And a lot of research and digging must be done on this to validate this. But there have been some rumors and evidence shown that someone in the UFO community was found in the Epstein files.

and that was Harvard professor and head of the Galileo project, Avi Logue. There are emails in the Epstein files that have to do with Avi Logue. That could mean a million different things. It could. And we're not going to judge it here today. It just is what it is. Especially, I think everybody needs to hold their breath until, first of all, the full set of files is out on that.

and that they've been carefully analyzed and all the mess regarding potential redactions and interestingly, the lack thereof in some cases, has been dealt with. So I think a lot of people can get mentioned in there, and it doesn't necessarily mean what we worry it might mean. Exactly. Yeah, that is very important. I mean, Epstein had his hands in a lot of different financial pots and individuals, and influencers and stuff like that.

So we do have to keep that in mind until any, it's like you know this better than anyone in a court of law, like you are innocent until proven guilty. That's right. That's right. Not everyone has the same level of knowledge about what was happening there or here in New Mexico at the ranch. You know, there's a big ranch and a big investigation going on here

about maybe 30 or 40 minutes from me. So there's just a whole lot more context that needs to come out. Yep, yep, we'll leave it at that. You know, I thought it was worth at least bringing up since it literally came up like yesterday. But yeah, yeah. And again, this all points back to could this disclosure be a distraction from, you know, Trump showing up in the Epstein files, as we all kind of presumed anyways. But it is what it is. A story unfolding before our very eyes.

But we'll see, July 8th. Keep that in your calendar, guys. July 8th, disclosure is coming. Catastrophic disclosure. My question for you is, what will Mark do if this comes to pass? Like, is he being used? Is this a prank? It's my biggest concern. Because, you know, you and I've talked so many times with this group about how particularly in the last 10 months, we've been in a disinformation campaign. And it is really important to remember that that has not stopped. and that if he does not consider whether he's being used, he needs to pause and consider that as well. So I think the question mark is the best thing to do.

Put that question mark on the calendar. We'll see and let it roll. Let it roll. I love it. Well, hey, speaking of letting it roll, documentary filmmaker, James Fox. We've been talking about this guy for, gosh, three weeks now. I know. National Press Club event took place in Washington recently about the Varhina UFO incident.

We live streamed the entire National Press Club event here on the channel. You can go back in the archives and watch that or listen to it. It's on the main feed of the podcast as well. And then last week we had an incredible conversation with our good friends over at Fire in the Cosmos, where we broke down the entire event. They were there on site, on location, got to interview. a bunch of people and they came on with us and broke it all down. That was such a rich, rewarding conversation with them.

But all that to say, Suzanne, it's back in the news again. Leslie Kane, Ralph Blumenthal, you know, the famous authors of the New York Times 2017 article, they're back at it. Again, they wrote the article on David Grush for the debrief. When that story came out, they broke that story. and now they covered the Varhina UFO incident and the National Press Club event. Leslie Kane was in attendance, and she actually got to be the only journalist in the room for a private meeting

with congressional members before the public national press club event. So a lot of this article at the debrief, I did not put a link in the show notes, but if you go to the debrief.org, it's one of their main stories up there. I already see you. You're on it, Susan. I'm looking for it. Yeah, yeah. Oh, thank you. You're the best. Yeah, she got kind of the inside, insider's look of what happened before the National Press Club event. And there were some interesting things that took place. Here's an image, actually, that was taken at one of those

meetings. You got James Fox there with some of the Varkini witnesses, all of them, actually, on the right side there. And then on the left-hand side, you've got congressional members. You got Anna Polina. You've got Eric Berlinson. I'm not sure her the gentleman is on the far end there. I don't know if you have any idea who that is. But yeah, yeah, this was a meeting that they had before the event or after. I'm not exactly sure. But either way, there were things that were said that were not made public. There were things that were made public. But I'm going to run through a couple of things here that I thought were really interesting from that. Dr. Armando, Fortunato has been a forensic pathologist and criminal medical examiner for the civil police

in Vahenia for three decades. And he told representatives that he performed an autopsy on a young military police officer, Marco Chorese, who had grabbed one of the beings from the Vahini event during its capture and died a few weeks later from a severe infection after it inadvertently scratched him. He said a legal request has been filed to exhume Caracy's body with hopes of collecting bacteria or even DNA samples that could undergo further analysis. So I thought that was pretty interesting. We also had, oh yeah, here we go. So this is an interesting image of Fortunato with another gentleman here, Dr. Janini, who's 89 years only. He's on the far right of your screen here.

He's a pathologist, right? Janine. Yes. The pathologist, yes, excuse me. And he basically signed a sworn statement saying that the bacteria and whatnot that was found is an extremely high, aggressive, and lethal bacteria. Like, it could be considered human. But at the same time, why was this found?

you know, why was this found on the body of this soldier who apparently came into contact with the alien beings? So pretty crazy stuff. You know, we had the, what's that? Oh, I was wondering, I would love for James Fox to fill us in on how the exhumation legal process is going. You know, the fellow who passed away, his family and the government both had to consent to the exhumation process in order to be able to get more medical data. which I hope they're able to do. I don't know. The government may be in the way.

I think the family said it was supporting it, but I don't know about the government. But with that and with all the new technology we have now around, you know, pathogens and bacteria, it would be so interesting to see what it really looks like. Yeah, absolutely. The other big thing we talked about with Fire in the Cosmos was this Air Force.

former Air Force, former Air Force Colonel, I think you was. Right. Yeah. Claussen. Decorated former Air Force, had a top secret clearance. He spoke at the event. And his big thing was he outlined ways the alleged secret U.S. mission might be documented. And when he says mission, he's referring to the retrieval of the craft and the body,

which was rumored to have been picked up by the United States. States and brought back to the U.S. Now James Fox is following leads with that when it comes to possible video of the retrieval or of the bodies photographs of the craft of the plane,

the U.S. plane that transported these things. So basically Fred Cawson came forward and is saying, look, if that is true, there should be documentation and he believes that he may have found some of that evidence or where

we should be looking. He said that eight. Let me put this for one sec, Ryan, in context for the listeners, because everyone needs to remember that Mr. Fox sent a FOIA request to the government asking for all of our Hena stuff. And Ryan and I have asked for a copy of that for you and have not yet gotten it. Hopefully we'll get a copy soon. But the government responded with, based on national security concerns, you will not be getting these documents, basically.

And yes, not we've searched and we can't find anything. We've searched and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Or, you know, no, based on national security concerns, we will not be releasing these documents. And so now it will be interesting to see what comes from subsequent pressure and for your request, including my own, going on all of the items identified by Colonel Claelson, to see whether they're going to tell everybody that. or is the cat enough out of the bag that they're going to have to back up and do the right thing? Exactly. Now, that response alone says there are documents. Exactly. Otherwise, you just said we don't have them. Right. Yeah. You know, I filed so many FOIA requests, and that's what they do. You know, and it will take them months and months and months and months and months and months to do, not months,

years. It took me a year in like some months to, get any documentation on a certain UFO event. And yeah, that's just the, that's how backlog they are. And that is how long the process can take, especially if you your request is not as specific as they want. They need you to clarify things more in order to get you the right documents. It is the way things work in the United States. And thank God for that, that we have a request system like that for sure.

even if it, like most U.S. government stuff, takes a very long time. However, I bring that up to say they were quick to respond to James Fox. They were, aren't they? Unusually out quick. Yeah. So that also tells me something. I also think you have to keep in context that all of these documents are now outside the 25-year mandatory declassification review time.

Bingo. And they're not delivering. So his request, their response to his request, was literally outside the 25-year mark, and he still got, no. Well, hey, I know, like you mentioned, you have put in a request. I highly suggest everyone do the same. I am in contact with James Fox. I'll be sharing a video that he sent our listeners exclusively in just a moment here. But, yeah, I'm in constant touch with him, and I am trying to get the actual.

response that he got for sure. So I will keep pressing him on that guys. Let's see if we could pressure James Fox to release that. Or is he going to come out with a moment of contact three? I know. They'll probably happen. I love him. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But yeah, Claussen was the big thing at this event. For me, I think we need to follow the money. Like he said, you know, if the U.S. had a plane come over and transport these things, there needs to to be a paper trial for that. They need to refuel those planes. As Anthony mentioned in Fire in the Cosmos conversation, there's got to be a paper trail for all of these things. So let's start. And the ambassador there in the U.S. ambassador to that area of Brazil had to approve everything.

He had to, nothing can happen there without his knowledge. Exactly. Well, hey, ambassadors, that's a good little transition there. The last thing we'll talk about from this debrief article. about Varhina was Eric Berlinson was in attendance at the event. Pretty cool to have him up there shaking hands with the witnesses. Like this is, I think people don't understand the symbology of these things. When you have witnesses in Brazil, part of this incredible event, their own country will not take it seriously enough to investigate it. Yeah, they embrace it in Varhina. You know, it has become like their Roswell.

But inside the government, like they want nothing to do with it. And I get it. I totally get it in some respects. But here in the United States, people like Eric Berlinson will follow this. Now, this is what's important, Suzanne, I think personally. The things being said by Colonel Clausen, follow the paper trail. Follow these things. This is what Eric Berlinson is going to do. He's going to try to find that. Now, the gentleman on your screen that Eric Berlinson is talking to is, I want to get his name here, right? Brazilian Senator Eduardo Garayo. I'm probably butchering that. But yeah, he represents the coastal state of Sierra. And he led a Brazilian Senate hearing on UAP back in 2022.

He came to Washington for this event. And Berlinson talked to him after the event. And Leslie Kane got some on the record things that they said during their conversation. And, you know, if there's video, of these things. Eric asked him, like, are you willing to pursue that in Brazil to try to find these videos? And he said, I'm going to try. I'm going to try. They also discussed the need for a joint effort to acquire evidence that could help validate the incident. So now you have a senator in Brazil working with a congress member in the United States to further investigate this case.

I don't see how that is not a success when it comes to what James Fox has accomplished here. So yeah, yeah. What do you? think. I think it's really important for someone like Eric Burleson to be there, not just for the symbology and bringing the gravitas of the American government to the conversation, which I think is so important to stop the ridicule and the repercussions. But I also think that he serves an even larger purpose because there was a period of time where Kurt McConnell was talking less than positively about the Democrats in the government. on this topic and that they were being too science-based.

I can't remember how he said it, but that Democrats were waiting on more proof than it was going to come anytime soon, basically, and that the Republicans were more open-minded about it. And it may be the case, I don't know. But Mr. Berluson was very quick to stand straight up and basically say, hold on a second. Don't forget my friend Mr. Moskowitz, who's been extremely helpful in this and so and so-and-so. So he's not playing that game in this topic. And I think that's really, really important to have someone in his position of authority and representation, making sure that it doesn't devolve into political garbage. And it shouldn't.

We need to be apolitical about this topic. Amen. You know, he mentioned, remember, guys, we work for you. Right. You know, you do not answer to the government. The government answers to you. And they're not answering us when it comes to this case. and neither is the Brazilian government.

Something's going on. There was a transfer of some sort, and an event happened, and these witnesses, as you see on your screen, were dramatically affected by that. So being in Washington doing this, I can fully like understand how

validating that must have been. No matter what you think of this case, some people think it's complete bunk, and that's fine. That will always be the case for many. But at the end of the day, to me, these men were dramatically, and women, the witnesses of the being were dramatically affected by this event. And they took tremendous risk and put out tremendous effort to step forward. And that is always, in my mind, something really important to keep in the front of our brains when we're assessing credibility. What do they have to lose and what do they have to gain?

And I don't see a whole lot to gain. They're not asking for money. They're not selling books. They're not appearing on podcasts. They're not, not, not. But they had literally everything to lose. Yep, exactly. And that's when you know something.

Something is real. Something's real. I mentioned James Fox. Yeah. You know, again, the time difference here is crazy. So he sent me a video message at like three in the morning. But he wanted you guys to see what's going on, post-national press club event. and whatnot. So he sent us an exclusive video for our somewhere in the live stream viewers,

for somewhere in the skies. I forgot the name of my own podcast. Somewhere in the Sky's podcast, listeners. So I'm going to go ahead and play that right now for you guys. This is a special message just for you guys from James Fox about what's going on post-national press club event. So let me find that for you. Here we go. Hey, this is James Fox with a quick update. Hold on. There he is. Let's restart that. All right, here we go. Hey, this is James Fox with a quick update. I'm actually in Las Vegas, Nevada. I just flew in from Brazil. I'm doing a podcast and then I get to finally fly home tomorrow, which I'm just dying to see my son. But we just got back from Brazil. We were primarily there for the 30th anniversary. I was invited by the mayor.

And so we got to speak. hang out with a lot of the witnesses. We're also tracking down doctors knocking on doors, downtown Virginia, getting additional support for Dr. Etulah's character and credibility, meeting with family members of deceased witnesses. I don't want to go into specifics right now, but a lot of progress. There's some huge, huge podcasters and news outlets in Brazil that are going to be doing stories on our press conference on the 30th anniversary and Dr. Itolo coming out.

That's happening in the next few days, 20, 30 million followers. So we're excited about that. Yeah, that's about it. I'll be home in cold Vermont in a day or two. And I'll give you guys more updates then. Hope you guys are well. Thanks so much for all your support. Bye. I think we're going to see a Varhanya three. I think we are. We will. I'm for it. And I think, you know, again, I just, I commend this man for just not giving up.

You know, this was a case that we must stress that James Fox thought was complete BS. Right. When he first got into it. And he refused to put it in his film, the phenomenon. He's like, there's no time. There's not enough evidence. Like, I can't do it. And now look at where we are.

It's crazy. I love that, though. He followed the evidence and changed his mind. He stayed open-minded enough to keep working the puzzle. Yeah, exactly. And good Lord. This dude, like, I think he's tied with me for not being home for the longest amount of time. He's like, I was in Washington.

I was in Brazil. Now I'm in, where is he? Vegas or Nevada. or something. He's a high-energy guy, though. He's cut out for this. Oh, absolutely. I can tell you that from personal experience.

The dude is just like an explosion of energy. He never, never rests. Good Lord. I think I tell the story in my book, but like we hiked the high winds of Scotland together to look for the Kelvin UFO location. And that guy went up that. hill faster than I've ever seen anyone go up a hill before. And I'm like huffing and puffing like a mile behind him. He beat me up there by like two miles. Do you remember that he also

was the fellow, I think, who climbed up the back way to Groom Lake out near Area 51. You know, there's one avenue that's remained unrestricted where you can get a view down on to area 50. Oh, yeah. Kikapoo. Yeah. That's it. That's it. That's it. And he climbed that thing. And in fact, I had messaged him because I was about to be out there as well. And I said, I need some tips. How what would you do differently? Blah, blah, blah.

But he got up there. And his response in his video about it, not to me, was, oh, my God, that was hard. It must have been really, really something. And based on that, which I saw before he responded to me, it's like, I don't know that we ought to do this to my husband. If he's struggling, I don't know that we need to be climbing up there. Exactly. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

It reminds me I went up to, I forget the mountain name in Arizona. But it's where like the Phoenix lights were said to have disappeared behind. I think that was it. Camelback. Camelback. Camelback. Yeah. I went there and went to that mountain with Clifford Mahoudi.

a Pueblo Indian native Pueblo. I said that politically incorrect. I apologize. But yeah, he and rest his soul, rest in peace. We lost him a few years back. But I hiked up that mountain with him. And the dude had just had like a kidney transplant or something like weeks before. And again, he beat me up and down that mountain. Yeah, we've been there and done that too, but it's not easy.

Crazy stuff. Yeah. Things we do. Yeah. All right. Should we get to our next story? Let's go. Let's go.

Good Lord. I know. I don't even know where to begin with this one. Let's get Mr. James Fox off the screen. And let's talk about the Bank of England because this story is crazy. I'll read a little bit here. A former senior analyst at the Bank of England, Helen McCauld. has warned that an official confirmation of non-human intelligence could trigger immediate global

financial chaos. In a letter to Governor Andrew Bailey, McCaugh urged the central bank to prepare contingency plans, arguing that credible UAP disclosure, particularly from the United States, could spark a market collapse, bank runs, and civil unrest. McCaw believes governments can no longer afford to treat the subject as fringe, warning the confirmation of a superior non-human intelligence could induce, quote, ontological shock with severe economic and psychological consequences. Last paragraph here. McCaugh outlined scenarios ranging from extreme market volatility in a rush into perceived safe assets like gold or government bonds to mass movement into cryptocurrencies if trust in state

institutions erodes, while also noting that even gold could lose value if advanced space technology changes resource scarcity. She warned that within hours of an undeniable announcement, despite expecting ridicule, that, oh, I, I butcher this. I'm sorry. Despite expecting ridicule, she remains focused on briefing policymakers rather than engaging with a UFO subcult. You insisting that even a low probability event with such catastrophic potential demands serious preparation. I can agree more. I'm so happy to see this. And I'd love to spend a sec kind of throwing this into some context for everybody.

First of all. Oh, full screen. Oh, gosh. For better or worse. Sorry. So let me talk with you a moment about Ms. McCall. So she was educated at Cambridge. And then she went from Cambridge to the Bank of England, which is an extremely conservative financial institution, well known for that.

And she moved from that institution into wealth management. So she's got a highly successful career going on. And what caught her eye was that the governments, you know, a few of them around the world, including our own, started studying UFOs and taking that seriously. But the bigger picture is so point number one is we are watching a gal with lots of brains, lots of education, lots of risk to talk about this subject, doing the right thing and saying planning for it. And why should we be planning for it? Well, let's go back to the first Soul Foundation meeting that I went to where Peter Skavish talked about catastrophic versus control disclosure and his position that we ought to

allow our government some of these little white lies around this until the world is ready. And the world in the bigger sense, not just Americans, not just the Brits, but the Amazonian tribes, because everybody's going to react differently. And the point is, if we are not careful in how we address this and plan for this, that the societal contract between our governments and their peoples will fail because it will become readily apparent that there is a larger intelligence with greater capability against which we and our governments are powerless. And when that happens, governments fall because they cannot hold up there into the bargain. They can't protect us from whatever this is if that's needed.

So keeping in context kind of what all this is, I am so hopeful that this is one little piece towards a control disclosure. Because this is what it ought to look like, in my opinion, where smart people in good positions with lots of risk around what they're doing, step forward and do this. Absolutely. You know, and I hate to be the conspiracy theorist, but could this be with the July 8th announcement?

Maybe. Maybe I would not disconnect all of these things that are happening, you know. Yeah. Well, look at how volatile the market and stuff, becomes when Trump makes certain accusations, certain statements, things crashed, things rise, like a, especially in the United States, the leader of said country, has a dramatic effect on the world market, you know, and or, you know, you look at stuff like when Russia invaded Ukraine, like that day, the market completely crashed and it destabilizes the world in, in many

different ways. So, like, could you imagine if, like, UFO disclosure happened? And look, Richard Dolan and Bryce Sable talked about this at length in their book after disclosure about it's not just the ontological shock. It's not just the impact on society in terms of belief and validation and the military. Like, this will have severe economic ramifications as well. So it's interesting. It is. And I think we also got to keep in mind that President Trump seems to be very responsive to what happens in the market.

And so in my mind, it is a reason why he would not do a July 8th disclosure because it could send markets tumbling permanently if everything isn't in place to counterbalance that. So to me, all the balls are in the air. Yep. Yep. He's a businessman before anything. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Whether or whether or not that's good for a country is old.

I get or don't like it. That's what it is. That's the way he runs things. Right. You can't change that. Yeah. Really fascinating story. World of things.

And came out of the blue. I know. What is going on here? Well, I'm going to ask you what's going on because, again, I haven't had time to watch this interview, but our good friend, colleague, and all-around nice guy, Gary Nolan, sassy, Sassy Gary Nolan. He's a spicy, he's a spicy dude. That's for damn sure.

He did an interview with Dr. Mian. Bealick, yep, who is an actor, right? Yeah, remember she used to be Big Bang Theory. Big Bang Theory? She's, he dated Felden and Big Bang Theory. But she's also, by the way, she has a BS in science from UCLA and a PhD in neuroscience. So I thought she was the perfect podcaster for this interview. Yeah.

Yeah. So she had no one on it. Yeah. So did you get a chance to watch any of it? I sent you a link because I'm like, hey, can you do this one? I just don't have time. Yeah, exactly. And it's long.

It's like an hour and 45 minutes or something. So, and normally in these things, I'll listen at 1.5 time or sometimes even two times just to get it all in and get my distance of it. But this one was too dense because they are literally talking science. And with her science background, she had the absolute capability to go toe to toe with him at times. Science. He is brilliant. I'm just going to tell you know, I'm a little scared of him and his temper. But I think he's earned it.

I think he's earned it. I think he doesn't suffer fools. And I learned a lot about why in this. And so I'm going to encourage everybody, give it the time. Give it the time. Go watch it. See what you think about how he thinks and how he learns. But I thought he did a great job.

He started, well, he didn't start here. But I'm going to just give you the highlights. Otherwise, we'll be here for an hour and 45 minutes. but because there is so much there. But he started, and I had never heard this, when he was a very young child, he woke up one night and there were little men in his room. And so he said to his mother the next day, and he couldn't move. He had, what's that called, sleep paralysis or something.

He could not move. He was very scared. But they eventually just went away and he set it aside. He mentioned it to his mother who said it's just bad dreams, not to worry about it. Well, then as an older kid, almost a young adult, not quite, like teen, he had a big paper route where he lived in Connecticut. And one day morning, during this paper route, this giant object goes over him silent. Yeah, right at the tree level. He estimated it was 30 to 40 feet wide, absolutely silent.

and he didn't know what to do with that either. He said then 20 years later, he was in a bookstore and goofing around. And he picked up, he turns a certain direction and he sees an image of what sounds to me like a gray alien, like the Whitley Streber, thin face, thin-chinned, big-eyed alien. And he said, it shocked him to his core. and he actually drops the book in the bookstore. And game changer. Now the game's on.

He was always a science fiction lover, but now game is on with this. He has, you know, he's a geneticist in his origins, which is really interesting. And then he kind of moved from that to add cell signaling with cancers and autoimmune stuff, all these other things. And then I didn't know this about him either,

but he studied Ebola and the Zika viruses. He was actually approached by our government to tell them, I thought how he put this was so interesting, to tell them what would a lab look like? What would it have to have? What would have to go on in that lab if you were going to create and release the COVID virus? He said, I have no opinion on who did it,

but I can tell you what it would look like. he has some suspects but anyway so this is an incredible brain this person is an incredible brain and of course he's the founder of the soul foundation along with some of his buddies and the way that came out which also comes out in this video was he was teed up with some scientific debunkers on the topic of UFOs and he said I bet this temper I bet this temper came out you could just you could just read it in his face when he's talking about talking about it. But he got hold of one naysayer who was a scientist and said, if you were in a real scientific theater with me right now, we would drum you out like dirt, basically, you know,

because you can't just ignore the facts you don't like in order to debunk the ones that you want to. And then he said the same thing to Mick West. Get this. Get this guys. CBS calls Gary Nolan and says, we want you to do a live debate with Mick West on the topic of UFOs. And he says, not just no, hell no, not going to happen because all he is is a skeptic and a debunker and he will not look at evidence he doesn't like and he will not uphold scientific rigor. And I'm not going to do it. And it didn't happen. I know. Not only know, hell no, but hell no. It didn't happen. And he kept trying to soften what he was saying about Mick West, but it wasn't very soft. Yeah. Those two are always going at it. Those two are going at it. It didn't over yet. But I loved this. He,

Miami and Bialek played a little game of did you say it or did you not say it with him, which was a lot of fun. It was a good format. I was clever thinking about how to get some of that out there. So the first thing she asked him was, are they watching us talking about non-human intelligence? And he said, okay, I said it. And here's what I met. Of course, they take it out of Congress. context. He said, I think what we're seeing is likely something similar to a drone. It may not be a drone in the sense that we make drones, mechanical, buzzing, you know, remote control things. I'm sure it's significantly more sophisticated. But why would they walk into a group of angry monkeys like us? You know, it just doesn't make scientific sense that they would just say, okay, let's go shake those mad people's hands over there. Everybody's mad and killing each other all the time. So that kind of made sense to me. The other one was, did you say that we are under threat from them? And he kind of smirked and he said, do we have something they want or need that they can't get elsewhere? Everything

we have is available elsewhere in the universe, probably even the DNA elements that our abductees talk about. You know, we are here made of the same elements. He said, now, I'm not willing to say that a bipedal, two-armed, upright being is sort of the genetic code and the norm out there, because DNA evolves wildly differently in very disparate environments. Right. So I don't think we're under threat. And then the thing that we have all said at some point, and if we were, wouldn't we already be gone? I mean, wouldn't we already, you know, they've had plenty of time to hurt or maim or eliminate if that's what they wanted to do? He suspects to finish it out that panspermia is probably the answer to how we, how and why we're here, but we might not recognize

our ancestors. Wow. Yeah, so it's well worth a watch. Aliens to our own planet. I've always found that so fascinating. That's right. He talks a little bit about aliens and nukes, and I thought this was interesting because to me it was almost like the banking story. He said, I don't care about why they're turning our nukes on and off or why they're in our airspace over military installations. I want to know how. And I thought that is the ultimate researcher perspective, isn't it? I don't need, I'm not going to imply motive because I don't know enough to imply motive. I need to

understand the how of it and then I can work another puzzle with that. That's so true. Yeah, like it's not like motive means nothing. It's like we need to, we need to figure out the how before the why. Always. Yeah. For sure. I love that.

I know he also kind of debunk the Atacama alien in this, which is good to put that thing to rest. I thought there's a whole section on the Ubatuba tuba. And that is really interesting because he does all this core sampling. And he told a funny story about the first time the CIA showed up in his office, he thought he was being pranked. He's like looking for hidden cameras.

He thought, you know, somebody's playing a joke on him. They were not. Interesting. But he does have a little section on energy weapons and Havana syndrome that was initially called interference syndrome. And then there were basically a hundred people who, who had devastating brain injuries. And he said 90 of the 100 ended up having what is now known as Havana syndrome. These other 10 were inexplicable.

And these other 10 had interactions with UFOs. And 90 did not. And so of these 10, these 10 people are exactly how he got on the research trail I'm going to mispronounce this, but the Caudetet Putaman, I don't know how to say that word, but that thing in your brain that UFO experiencers, mediums, those types of people have, that lights up quite differently. And these people are, keep in mind, these are intelligence officers, basically, that these, these hundred people.

So these are, he said, this happens in really bright people who are also really intuitive. and that that's what this pool of people was. Now, can I ask why intelligence people? Because that's what the military was coming into him. It was with this group of military injured people. Interesting. 90 out of 100 ended up with Havanaise. Probably a sound weapon.

He can not be lasers. He eliminates lasers. Laser would burn. There would be evidence of laser. So probably sound. but he did not give a definitive conclusion, but clearly they looked at all that stuff. So the entire pool is military.

And then he noted, which I think it says a lot, is that we now have a government link for veterans and active military who have these symptoms and it will walk them through how to get for their problem. Yeah, there's a group, UAP med, I believe. Something like that. Yeah, I don't know what it was called, you can click it's inside the military system okay interesting okay well yes i highly suggest people

check out the entire clearly a lot to digest there but i'm gonna definitely give it a watch and listen um cool oh man i love it yeah well hey um i'm gonna take a quick break if you don't mind and then we're gonna watch some ufo videos because we got two really cool UFO videos to show you guys that have been released recently. So yeah, just going to do a quick ad break and we'll come right back. I know you're on a time limit. How much more time you got? I think we're good. Let's see. What is it? 335 in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Oh, okay. Cool, cool, cool. Awesome. All right, guys, stick with us. We'll be right back with our final stories of the night, which include a UFO video released by George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell. A Dorito UFO has been cited over Area 51.

I've got a special announcement about that video and the person who filmed it coming up for you guys. And we're going to talk about John Greenwald at the Black Vault, who has got some interesting responses from the government on both Immaculate Constellation. And a, let's just say, an invite only for the press for a special UFO event that you. I didn't get an invite. I didn't get the invite. Exactly. None of us did. No.

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that's strictly visual because our listeners lose out sometimes. But these are very specific and we definitely had to cover them. So again, I'm going to remind you guys, our code word for your Apple podcast reviews is Dorito. And that's going to be our next story because there was a Dorito UFO that was filmed over Area 51. A little information here for you guys. Over on the Uncanny Expeditions

YouTube channel, a gentleman by the name of Anders Otisin filmed a strange craft over Area 51. And, you know, no claims that it's extraterrestrials or anything like that, but it was extremely interesting. So what we're going to do now is watch a somewhat lengthy, but not too long segment on News Nation,

where they brought in Anders to talk about the video that he filmed. And they also brought in our hero, Michi Okaku, who is there as well. I love him. And also former MOD UFO Desk, extraordinary Nick Pope was there as well, always willing to give his opinions, like given the opportunity. What you're watching is filmed in infrared. So white is hot and black is dark is cold. Thank you.

That's very important for sure. So let's go ahead and watch that News Nation little segment here. And we'll come back and talk a little bit more about the Dorito UFO on the other side. Sound good? Good. All right. Here we go. Whoops.

Wrong video. We love you, James Fox, but we've had nothing for tonight, buddy. Here we go. The burrito-shaped aircraft was spotted flying at night over area 51. But we have the man who spotted it. Anders Audison of Uncanny Exhibitions, also joining us, theoretical physicists, Dr. Michi McCaku, and former investigator for the UK Ministry of Defense, Nick Pope. So Nick, let's start with you.

The military in the United Kingdom was ordering agents to get this technology way back in the 90s. What do we know? What do they know then? What do we know now? Well, this came from a declassified Ministry of Defense file. And I was actually one of the people involved in some of this documentation. And we didn't know any of this was extraterrestrial for sure. But we said, just to cover our bases, look, if it is, we could use that technology.

because obviously we would want something like that. So, Anders, if the sighting is from a terrestrial aircraft, what are the possibilities? I mean, the universe is a pretty big place. Yeah, I mean, the particular aircraft that I filmed, I firmly believe it to be, you know, an advanced classified military aircraft. You can tell by the fact that it leaves a con trail that it's not necessarily using one of these exotic propulsion methods that you might think of. Now, that said, I do firmly believe it is something classified, and that could potentially relate to some of these programs involving reverse engineering and things like that that we hear about.

Dr. Kaku, given all the information about this new siting around Area 51, what do you think are some of the credible explanations? Well, I'm a physicist, and we want to be able to categorize this thing as a close encounter of the first type, second type, or third type. A first type encounter is basically when you see something, you don't touch it, you simply see the thing, maneuver. A close encounter of the second type is when you can actually touch it. You can actually see it maneuver, touch it, and understand where it comes from. Close encounters are the third type is when the alien comes out of the spaceship and you say again. Where are we? We're at close encounters of the first type right now.

We're not touching the thing, we're not interacting with it, we're simply Googling it with our radars and hopefully that we get some debris from it. But right now it's close encounters to the first type. We simply don't know where it came from or what it's doing here. Well, and we're watching it now on our screen. It looks almost like a B-52 bomber or a Dorito shape flying through the sky. So we don't know, but we can watch it. Nick, you've suggested one possibility is that this is a secret prototype. for an aircraft or some kind of drone. There's lots of different technologies tested at Area 51.

Do you have a prediction about where this technology is going? Well, at any given time, you know that there's tech out there, you know, 10, 15, 20 years ahead of anything that's publicly declared. So yes, absolutely. This could be some next generation prototype aircraft or drone. Hopefully it's ours and not an adversary spying on things that we're developing at area 51. But area 51, you know, we know from history is a place where many of the U.S. government's most, you know, remarkable pieces of aviation technology are tested and developed. The U2, you know, the SR-71 Blackbird, and more recently stealth. So this could be something exciting, but not necessarily alien, though that would be fun.

Andrew, so what we're watching is the video that you shot, and you do this often when you see these things flying through the sky, but does this one have any different features? How is it different from the footage that you've captured in the past? How does it compare? Or does it not? Is it just similar to what you've already seen? Well, yeah, as you said, I spend quite a bit of time out in the desert, not only at Area 51, but also some of these other defense sites out in the desert that are critical to aircraft

development. And I'll bring all manner of different kind of camera gear when I go out. case, I'm shooting in the infrared spectrum. So that's why you have the black and white look to the footage. What you're seeing is white, hot and black cold. So you can see the aircraft is hot, you know, which would make sense. This is unique in terms of what I've filmed before. I haven't filmed something quite like this. Earlier that night, I had been filming a B2 stealth bomber. And it looked pretty pretty different to what I was seeing here. I actually, in my full YouTube video, I had them side by side. So you can kind of do a comparison. But yeah, I would say

that this is pretty unique. And it actually lines up with some reports that I've received from viewers of equilateral triangle-shaped aircraft flying over the Mojave Desert. So I've been kind of doing a little bit of an investigation trying to verify some of those reports. All right. Thanks for your patience, guys. I know that clip is a little lengthy, but I thought it was cool to see the full, you know, opinions of these individuals, for sure. That's not the most flattering image. I ended on there. Robly Nick Pope and Anders. I apologize to them.

But yeah, yeah, this is interesting. I'm glad that Anders brought up that he had been filming a bomber earlier that night so that this was different. So this is definitely a different craft. And also that this is, you know, different from everything else he's ever uncovered. He has an incredible channel on Canny Expeditions. Guys, go check it out right here on YouTube. the dude has traveled all over,

filmed things at all different various military installations and whatnot. And he's even recovered like materials out there when a UAP crashed out near Area 51 and he did a video on that as well.

I'm just going to spoil it now. Anders will be joining us on somewhere in the skies next week. So I'm going to talk all about this, all about the other things he's captured on video. things that he hasn't shared publicly before about things that he's uncovered out there. And we're going to talk about the materials that he got from that crashed UAP too.

So Anders Otteson will be joining us on the show to talk about all of this. So if you guys have any questions, go watch his videos at Uncanny Expeditions on YouTube. And I'll be sure to try to ask those questions during our interview. But Suzanne, what did you think about this story and this video particularly? I think this is fascinating, not because I think it's a UAP, but because I think it's not. And I want to know a couple of things. So where did this come from and where has it been? And why are we seeing it now?

And why are we seeing it over Area 51? I also think everyone needs to go back and watch that clip one more time because you see the triangle, which is clearly hot as it's moving. The contrail is hot. It's in white. But if you zoom in on the craft itself, there is a black ring, very pronounced around the craft. What's that? What's that?

In my mind, if the object it's hot is going to give off heat. And so I would expect almost a white glow. This is, of course, an English major and lawyer talking about this, not a physics person. But in my mind, you know, it's like I don't understand why we have a super cold circle. You can see it there. You can see in this super cold circle, the dark black, around that. Why? What's happening?

I want someone who knows the physics to tell us what that is. Plasma energy, baby. That's what I'm going for. Yeah. It is something. Yeah. Also, you guys are killing it with the video. I love on this.

We have the best chat in the world. We do. They're just incredibly funny. Smart. Yeah. But yeah, I'm so happy you. said that. Like it's not, we didn't show this video to show that it's a alien UFO. We're showing it because it possibly is not. And that's just as important. And these are secret craft that are

being tested out there. And people are capturing them, which is also troubling, you know. Maybe it's part of what we were talking about a minute ago. Maybe it's another part of a control disclosure thing where they let little pieces out to start to normalize like this. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So interesting stuff. Look at Gareth. Dori. There were some good ones. Cool, ranch. I love it. I love it. All right. So let's move to our next UFO video. This one was released recently by George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell over at the Weaponized

podcast. They did a full episode on it, so I suggest you guys go over and watch that. where they kind of break it down, give their thoughts and opinions on the video as well. But a little context before we show the video. It was, again, given to these two, why? We don't know, but it was. And it was officially documented by the Pentagon and catalogued within the intelligence community as, quote, orbs information of official. designation of the uap was made by the u.s intelligence community and the department of defense i will

not be calling it the department of war sorry to all of you out there that is stupid and ridiculous and i'm not calling it that um we draw our line we draw our on twitter and department of war yeah exactly it's twitter and it's department of defense it's not x it is not department of war um let's see so the date of the video is august 23rd of The location is the Persian Gulf. This was captured on thermographic forward-looking infrared or flare by an MQ9 Reaper drone. And a little description before I show the video. It was filmed on a platform operating under the direction of the U.S. Air Force.

The objects were observed and actively tracked. The UAP appeared to demonstrate abrupt directional changes in intelligent control. Okay, so let's see if that holds true when we watch the. video. I'm going to go ahead and play this for you now. If you're listening to this in the future on the podcast, you're just going to hear silence because I don't think there's any, yeah, there's no audio for it. But go ahead

and give this a watch, guys. I'm interested to hear what the chat has to say and Suzanne, what you think of this as well because it could be orbs. Let's go ahead and watch the video here. All right, here we go. Of course I messed it up again.

There it is. Let's start from the beginning. There it is. triangular formation of orbs. But in my mind, clearly separate objects. Yes. Yep. Because they're moving distant between each other. Yeah, it's not perfect symmetry.

Yep. There's some wobble. Mm-hmm. I saw, yeah, it's making like abrupt direction changes too. Exactly. Unless that's the camera. Unless that's a camera. They seem to be holding that camera still, though.

So I guess it could be both, right? Yeah. But yeah, those are definitely three separate objects. You can tell right there. Like, they're not. But clearly aware of each other and synchronize with each other to a small extent. I guess maybe not small, but... Interesting.

Isn't that amazing? Yeah. Okay. So there's the video, guys. What do you think? What do you think in the chat? No contrails, no funny stuff like that. Just usual. Absence of traditional propulsion or thermal signatures, as stated here.

And origin, intent, and capabilities remain unknown. Again, this is according to Jeremy Corbella and George Knapp. So whoever sent them this video, this official military video, those were the determinations. It's still an unknown, as it were. Now, I have seen people debunk it already, people like McWest, people like Stephen Green Street, you know, kind of the regulars who come out and give the other side of it, which is important. Like, you know, we might not like how they go about it or whatnot, ignoring certain things. But they think it's a flock of birds. What else is new? I don't think it's

Rock of birds. Yeah. Yeah. I took a photo of a UFO when I was in Nova Scotia, and it turned out to be a bird. And who was the first to tell me that? Mick West.

And he was right. He was 100% correct. Well, I want you to go back to the Derry Nolan interview with Miami. Because he mentions that. Not you by name, but he mentions the seagull or whatever. and there are means of debunking if you follow the evidence, you know.

Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, again, like, if you want any further information on this, guys, go to the Webinized Podcast for George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell break down this a little bit more. But what do you think? What is your gut telling you about this, Suzanne, in terms of the orb phenomenon. We don't hear this often when it comes to the UFO videos coming out from the military. Usually it looks more like a nuts and bolts craft of some sort. But we're talking orbs now.

We're talking orbs. And I'm having my own little dance out here in Santa Fe with a particular orange orb, my neighbor and I are. And, you know, my prior experience out here was with a group of five or six orbs. And they move just like this. So right now, I'm in the orb camp. I don't see anything conventional about this. I don't think it's birds. I don't think it's conventional craft.

I don't see contrails or flight patterns that make sense to me. So I'm in the orb camp. Okay. Yeah. You know, I do find this one pretty fascinating, to be honest. The abrupt movements. The fact that, like, they were out of formation at some points, but then always seemed to come back to this triangular formation.

does definitely peak my interest. And I've come into many contact with many witnesses who have seen the orbs and explain these kind of choreographed dances that they do almost like they are intelligent. And that seems to be whatever these objects are doing. Could they be birds, possibly? Could they be balloons, possibly?

But at the end of the day, like the Department of Defense is saying it's still unknown. And if they don't know, and don't lose sight of all the data that they're getting on the screen around us. We don't have a good shot of it right here. But to see that, for you guys to see the orbs, we needed to make it bigger. But if you go back to your thing, they're going to know altitude and all of those kinds of things and estimates on speed.

So you have to assume things like birds have been eliminated. or they would love to tell us that they are birds, you know. Good point. I think even Corbell stresses in their episode that they are like almost certain this was not birds or balloons. Yeah. So that's interesting too. But again, we are in the low information zone.

We have time. We have location. We have date. That's important. It is for sure. But, you know, just like any UFO video, whether you believe. leave it's extraterrestrial or it's birds. There is that constant purgatory that we're in,

that we don't have enough information to properly make a assessment of what the object is. McWest and, you know, what's the gentleman's name? Vander Camp, I don't know. Those two are always going at it on like Twitter about certain UFO videos. But at the end of the day, they always come back to the same you know, conclusion, we don't have enough information to make it determined determination.

And I'm sure that is by design. Yeah, exactly. Mothra, damn it, Donnie Fawson. Good shout out, buddy. I've seen, oh, I went to a pop-up store in Tokyo yesterday, and it was an all Mothra. Oh, was it? The Godzilla Kaiji. Oh, my only one was thrilled.

Yeah, I know. I've got a lot of Godzilla fans. I have a lot of gifts I need to buy before I live. But yeah. But yeah, interesting video, nonetheless. Make it's some good stuff. And I'm sure they are vetting behind the scenes. They're not just letting anything out under their own names.

So I think we have to take that into account, too. Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Let's move to our final story of the night. We're almost at the two hour mark. So I will try to breeze through this one. John Greenwald over at the Black Vault has been a busy guy lately doing a bunch, getting a bunch of responses.

And he put out a request, as he always does, for any information, emails, any data that the government has on Immaculate Constellation. So we're returning to the Matthew Robert's story with Immaculate Constellation. And the response that he got was interesting. So I'm going to read a little bit here. and I think I have let me pull this up here there it is a recent

FOIA response from the Department of Defense has sparked concern after officials declined to conduct any record search tied to allegations surrounding immaculate constellation. Denied to conduct any

interesting. I have some thoughts in that too. Okay. The request filed by the Black Vault under case number, that doesn't matter, sought email sent to or from Derek J. O'Malley, specifically requesting both classified and unclassified communications containing the phrase immaculate constellation. In a final response dated January 26th of 2026, the department stated, no search would be conducted because the alleged special access program, quote,

does not exist. asserting that an email search would therefore yield no responsive records. That justification is unusual in FOIA practice, John Greenwald stresses, where agencies are typically required to search for records, matching the wording of a request regardless of whether the subject matter is later deemed false or unsubstantiated. The controversy is heightened by the fact that Immaculate Constellation has already appeared in official and public. discourse, including a document submitted by Nancy Mace during a November 24 UAP hearing testimony from journalists and a one-page release from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence,

explicitly denying the program's existence, while documenting internal awareness of the allegation. That was a mouthful. So, yeah, this is interesting that, again, we talked about this earlier with James Fox as well. Like, they're not even, they're saying, no, we're not even looking at it. I'm going to go look. Yeah. And if the system doesn't work like this, people, this is not the same thing as saying there are no documents. So I hope that there was a quick appeal by Greenwald.

And if that appeal doesn't slap them in the butt on the way to get the documents, because if you want to say there are no such documents, that's one thing legally. If you want to say, we're not even going to go look, we're just going to tell you no, that's another. Yeah. Like, what is that. That doesn't. BS is what that is. Some legal BS is what that is.

Yeah. I, you know, and I was kind of at the point where I was ready to put the immaculate constellation thing to rest, to be completely honest. Like it wasn't really leading anywhere. No like official documentation has come forward in terms of that. This was Matthew Brown. It was his whistleblowing around this topic. Yeah, Schellenberger, the journalist. And so he sure took a lot of risk to mention something that just doesn't exist that they're not even going to go look for.

Yeah. And again, that's what's piquing my interest again. So I'm back on the Immaculate Constellation train. The silence says it all. The silence says it all. And it further erodes the transparency and the over classification that we are getting with the UAP topic from these requests. John Greenwald used to get so much. And now they're like really clamping down.

And this is a problem. Like it is a problem when, you know, the one process we have in the United States to get any information about the government might. know or not know about UFOs, they are now using classification as the excuse for everything or national security. So like, look, we're just asking, you know, is there anything having to do with immaculate consolation? Like, tell us yes or tell us no? Instead, they're saying, we're not answering that. We're not looking. And it's also weaponized. Foya's now weaponized. You know, you'll remember a few weeks ago when Mr. Grush was on a big podcast. And the same day, and within like six months of when a four-year request was issued,

they released documents. It was Megan Kelly's podcast. They released documents negative to Grush, oddly timely, with regard to this big interview with Megan Kelly. So I think we're watching a weaponization of the FOIA process. We'll see. I don't know. Maybe I'll reach out to Mr. Greenwald and ask. You should. Yeah. Like if anyone would know how to deal with this, it's him. He appeals all the time. And he has been successful.

Yeah. Like appeals can go a very, very long way. It really depends on the person dealing with your request, what mood they're in. It's like the DMV when you go to get your license. It really depends on the person. You know, I got this miserable person. for my first driver's test. And it was the middle of summer and my air conditioning didn't work in the vehicle I was using. And they failed me. Granted, I didn't use a blinker when I should have at one point, or signal for those who call it that. But yeah, like that had a lot to do with it. And then I passed, you know, next week when I tried it again or whatever. It depends.

Yeah, it just depends. That's right. And also depends on the demeanor of the person making requests. Some people get told no and take no. And some people get told no and say, step up, you know, move along. It's just like anything. Yeah, you can't in your quest be like, give me all the information of UFOs. You have to.

Like you have to be very classy about it. You have to be very specific. Right. My God, do you have to be specific. And if anyone knows how to do that is Sean Greenwald. And the fact that this was the response says it all to me. Evaculate constellation is real and something's going on there. Me too.

me too. This is the wrong way to get us off that trail. Yeah, exactly. That's what they're going to. That was a goal. Yeah, you do not do that to a UFO person. We will come back tenfold. Wrong answer. I know I mentioned at the top of the show, the political people with bullhorns in Japan here, it's happening right now. You can't hear them. Well, I can't hear them. So maybe it's only for you. Okay, good. Yeah. Right outside my window. Okay, fair enough. Okay, let's move to the next request that John Greenwald had put out.

And this was in terms of a meeting that took place with Arrow. And this is interesting. A newly released FOIA record reveals which journalists were privately invited to an embargoed invite-only Pentagon Media Roundtable on UAP held on March 6, 2024. just days before the public release of the, what was it the, yeah, the historical report on UAP. Arrow's report. The document consists of an email invitation sent by Pentagon spokesperson Susan Goff to a select.

No, I love that. I love how she has her own evil villain theme music. At least in my head, it lives. there. Looney tunes, baby. This was an email invitation sent by Susan Goff to a select group of media outlets for an on-record off-camera briefing with Arrow. The briefing focused on volume one of the congressionally mandated historical review, as we stated. Let's see here. Let's see. Participation required advance agreement to the embargo. Attendance was limited to one representative per outlet and access was explicitly non-transferable.

So this, you know, we are showing on your screen here, if you're watching this on YouTube, some of the individuals who were invited to this event, and they are very specific. They work for things like task and purpose, the New York Times, military defense scoop, things like that. And PBSS, didn't you find that? Yes. PBS. I was like, what? Okay. All right. But interesting, it stood out to me, among all the other.

That is interesting. I didn't catch the PBS one. I don't get it. Yeah, maybe you get a free tote back to if you support PBS. Yeah. Yeah, pledge today, please. But, you know, so these names were made public in the email. Some are redacted, but what I did is I went on Twitter and I found all of these journalists. and I put it to them.

I said, yo, what was this meeting? Is there anything you can share? Why were you invited specifically? And what was this all about? Now, I got a couple comments from the journalists. I think I have them here. Yeah, okay. So one of the people who was invited that was in that email was Dan Lammoth.

And, you know, I asked, yo, what's up with this? What is this? and he said, I can't speak for someone else's decision-making, but in my experience, it's sometimes as simple as they desire to keep the convo a size that feels manageable to a given briefer, not atypical. We say yes or no based on ground rules set. Happens on many issues, or it used to at least, there is virtually no engagement under the current regime.

We had another journalist respond and said, as someone who has been left off these invites before. The reasons can be incredibly benign. The official didn't know I was interested. They were working off an outdated mailing list. They had limited space and wanted to get specific folks to reach the right audience. That caught my attention. Reach the right audience. Because it does feel wildly overcontrolled. That's, I think, the issue and why John highlighted this and why we're highlighting this. This is clearly management and control of the, UAP narrative at work here for me personally. They are inviting people who they know will tow the line and look at this strictly from a

defense national security stance, which is what Arrow is all about. They're not about proving aliens exist. Any of these UAP are extraterrestrial or anything like that. But that also has its own problems. If you're having a press conference, a closed meeting, I guess, with the press and kind of telling them what to say and what not to say, that's a big issue. That's an issue. Dan, what does Dan say here? Yeah, who's the right audience? Boom. Yeah. That's the control question right there. So yeah, interesting little way to kind of lead us into 2026 in terms of how the

UAP topic and the narrative being told to us is being controlled from within the U.S. government. We only have to get to July 8. Exactly. If Mark Christopher Lee is correct, July 8th, we're done. The live stream's done. Somewhere in the sky is done. Brian and I are going to find a different hobby. Yeah.

Yep. I'm going to take up. Bigfoot's a good. Bigfoot's good. I was thinking basket weaving, maybe. Oh, that's easy. Yeah. Yeah.

Basket weaving with Bigfoot. Exactly. Oh my gosh. Cool. Well, that's going to do it for the UFO news of the week. Wow. We covered so much. Apologies for the half an hour of Japan talk earlier, guys.

But again, I do want to direct it was worth it. Thank you. I'm glad it was. I would do want to direct people to the 2026 UAP detection and tracking summit one more time here. Go to Ryan Sprague.S.com. Get 35% off your ticket. with the Code Summit 35. It's going to be an incredible event.

I'll be watching it. Suzanne, are you going to be watching? I'll be watching. I won't be able to be there the whole time. I'll be back in Memphis for that week with a bunch of stuff going on there. Catch up, but I'll be in and out.

So I'll be watching for our people. Awesome. And from what I'm told, it will be archived as well. So you'll be able to watch it after to. But yeah, some incredible speakers at that event. Again, use the code summit 35 at the

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You are busy. FOIA requests. You are working also on a UFO case. We won't get into it. because the work is continuing. But guys, just get ready because Suzanne is on the ground doing some incredible research. And she's going to bring a case to the public that has not really been out there ever before. So stay tuned.

That's all I can really say. Cross your fingers. Cross your fingers. But you are putting the work in and you're becoming the next James Fox. And I love it. I love it. It'll be a big one if I can put it together. If we can get the right witnesses, we've got the paperwork, the ancient paperwork.

I have found the crash site. We will get there. It's a crash, guys. One you have not heard of. I can guarantee you that. So stay tuned for more on that in the very near future. And stay tuned for more from us. But that's going to do it for tonight.

So thank you so much for joining us to all of our regulars. We love you guys. To anyone new that happened to be watching tonight, we truly do appreciate it. And we'll see. I don't know. I'm going to be in Hokkaido, Japan next week. And it's Super Bowl Sunday. Yeah. It's all. That's going to add into the Americans.

I'm going to say it right now. We're not going to do a live stream next week. Probably the right decision. There'd be three of us in America. Yeah. And you and I are two of those three. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So, but we'll see what happens after that.

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