Somewhere in the Skies - Obama Says ALIENS ARE REAL, New UAP VIDEO & Whistleblowers, El Paso FAA SHUTDOWN, Bob Lazar RETURNS!

Episode Date: February 17, 2026

Ryan and Suzanne are back breaking down the biggest, strangest, and most headline-grabbing UFO stories of the week... and this one is packed! This week: Obama’s latest alien comments (and how they compare to what Reggie Watts shared about Obama and Clinton ), the chaotic FAA shutdown over El Paso and alleged “mothership” footage, and new FLIR UAP video released by Corbell and Knapp showing extreme maneuvers captured by a U.S. MQ-9 Reaper. Plus, Bob Lazar’s surprise appearance in Austin, Rep. Eric Burlison’s push for access to a rumored “building-sized UFO” site, and two new military whistleblowers speaking out. We also share a heartfelt message from Nick Pope about his health and reflect on his legacy in bringing UAP discussions into the mainstream. Please take a moment to rate and review us on Spotify and Apple. Book Ryan on CAMEO at: https://bit.ly/3kwz3DO Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: http://www.buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ PayPal: [e-mail] Substack: https://ryansprague.substack.com/ All Socials and Books: https://linktr.ee/somewhereskiespod Email: [e-mail] SpectreVision Radio: https://www.spectrevision.com/podcasts Opening Theme Song by Septembryo Closing Song by Per Kiilstofte Copyright © 2026 Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. #UAP #Aliens #Obama #BobLazar #Disclosure #Whistleblower #NickPope #JeremyCorbell #GeorgeKnapp #UFOCommunity Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Fit for your ambition for Citizens Bank. Are aliens real? Are aliens real? They're real, but I haven't seen them, and they're not being kept in, what is it? Area 51. There's no underground facility, unless there's, this enormous conspiracy, and they hit it from the president of the United States. What was the first question you wanted answered when you became president?

Where are the aliens? We're the aliens. Our governments are failures to let our minds explore other possibilities to use our imaginations. For if we consider that astroscientists agree on one point that the possibility of life elsewhere is not only quite probable, some field was there with an opportunity. doubt. Let us suppose them that these objects are real space vehicles, extraterrestrial origin, and not an illusion

of the mind. There's nothing to hide at all. Welcome to somewhere in the live stream. I am your host, Ryan Sprague. We will be joined by our co-host and moderator in just a couple minutes, Suzanne Landers. But hi, hi, guys. How are you?

It is 6.14 a.m. here. Monday in the future. for many of you. Yes, I saw the question in the chat. Am I still in Japan? I am. I'm in Japan for about another five days, I want to say, four days. Yeah, it's gone quick. I've been here for almost a month, which is crazy.

I remember the day I landed here, I got about an hour of sleep, and then we live streamed the UAP press conference, National Press Conference event with James Fox. Can you believe that was a month ago already, guys? Wow, time really flies. It really does. So, yes, I'm still in Japan. I'm actually in the midst of packing because I'm heading to Tokyo for back to Tokyo for three days,

which is where I'll be flying back to Parks Unknown again. The travels continue. I'll be heading back to another island for a few days. and then another island, that being the island of Manhattan. So I'm going to be visiting friends in New York City and hanging out back, you know, where it all started for me in New York City. So yes, the travels continue, but I would not miss doing the live stream for the world. We missed it last week because this Super Bowl happened.

Congratulations to the Seattle Seahawks, if we have any fans out there. And congratulations to any Bad Bunny fans. the most viewed halftime performance in the history of the Super Bowl. So big shout out to Bad Bunny, Lady Gaga, Ricky Martin. It was crazy. I absolutely love that halftime performance. I understood about 10 words of it. But yeah, that's public schooling Spanish for you right there.

But well worth a watch, even if you don't speak English for sure. That's what America is, guys. It's a melting pot for sure. And Puerto Rico stands proud. And I loved it. I loved it. But we are here to talk UFO news. And my God has been a packed week of UFO news.

I cannot wait to get to all of it with you guys. Hello to all of our regulars in the chat. I see you. I love you. Thank you so much for being here. Everyone's got their coffee, their beers, their water, their tea, their wine. They're good to go. I love it. You're going to need it. You're going to need it for tonight. That's for sure. Super

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PayPal and Buy Me a Coffee are also available QR codes on the screen. Links in the show notes for those. I will check those periodically throughout the night as well. And those will go towards our goal. as well. So thank you in advance to any of you who are willing to help us that way. We truly, truly do appreciate that. If you can't help us financially, simply like this video, subscribe, share it. That's all we could ever ask of you guys. This goes out on the podcast on Wednesday as well. So you know what I'm going to ask you guys next. Rate in review this summer in this guy's

podcast wherever you get it, but particularly on Apple Podcasts and on Spotify. I cannot express to you guys. I know we say it every week and all podcasters do this, but your ratings and reviews make a huge difference. You might think it just goes out into the ether and is never seen or heard. No, we see those. We hear you. And so do Apple Podcasts and Spotify. For every rating and review, it boosts us up for visibility. And it really does help us find new listeners who might find this stuff interesting and are curious about what's going on in our skies and our oceans all around them. So yeah, if you can, please head over to Apple Podcasts and rate and review or go to Spotify and leave a rating there. You can now comment on episodes on Spotify. And those comments also help

boost your visibility like Spotify. So all of that helps us. So you know what that means. We have a code word for you guys today. And that code word is, code words is Dem aliens, D-E-M aliens, Dem aliens. That is your code words. What I want you to do is go to Apple Podcasts and put Dem Aliens somewhere in your review. If you're over on Spotify, listening to this in the future, in the comments of this episode, put Dem aliens.

And what the heck? In the comments right on this YouTube video, put Dem aliens as well. Not in the live chat. I mean, feel free to do it there, but in the comments below the video, put Dem aliens. And yeah, your Apple podcast reviews, we will read those on the show, the following live stream. So, yeah, be sure to go over to Apple and Spotify, rating review.

Truly do appreciate that. But enough of begging you for money and for ratings and reviews. Like I said, a couple days left here in Japan, but I wanted to give this guy a very special shout-out. This is my newfound friend, Darren, who I had the incredible opportunity to meet here. in Japan, in Osaka. He lives here. And just all around awesome dude. We met up twice

while I was here in Osaka. And last night, and it always seems to be the night before the live streams that we go out and we have beers. Ah, Darren. This is so cool. We got a picture with Godzilla in the background. I can't think of a more fitting and appropriate way

to kind of send me off from Japan. But we went to a wonderful restaurant last night here in downtown Osaka, an area called Namba. And we had, I'm going to miss the food here more than anything. I'm really going to miss the food. It's been incredible. But we had fried oysters. And we also had oyster akonamiake. So if anyone is not familiar with Akonamiake, I don't blame you because it is a traditional

meal that is exclusive to Hiroshima here in Japan. I've had it a couple times when I lived in Los Angeles. Jane, my partner and I, we make it at home sometimes as well, but it comes from Hiroshima. It is a traditional dish that they make there. And it is delicious. It's kind of got like a scrambled egg base to it.

And then they're like an omelet, I guess, in the United States or in Europe or whatnot. But they fill it with like cabbage and seafood and amazing like a Konamiake sauce and throw some cutie mayonnaise on that as well. It is so good. Comfort food to say the least. And I had that filled with oysters as well. I'm not even an oyster guy.

Like I had a partner once who worked at the most prestigious oyster bar in New York City. I mean, we're talking like thousands of dollars. to get oysters at this place. And I would go there like three times a week and get as many oysters as I wanted for free. And I'm sitting around these like Wall Street bros who are like blowing all their money and, you know, being Wall Street guys,

eating their oysters and dropping $100 bills. And I'm over there like, yep, this is my eighth dozen oysters for free, baby. And then I got sick. Don't eat eight dozen. and Raleighsters. Not smart, not smart. But yeah, wow, tangent to the 10th degree.

Darren, I love you, buddy. We had some incredible conversations here. He's been listening to the podcast for almost as long as we've been doing it. And he was pulling up interviews that I did like seven and a half years ago in his memory bank. He's amazing. But no, we talked about life. We talked about everything. going on in the world. We talked about UFOs, the paranormal, and it was just such an incredible

opportunity to meet a listener in another country and who has become a newfound friend. And, you know, the same can obviously be said for our moderator. It just still astounds me, you know, that people listen to somewhere in the skies and watch the live streams. I love it. You guys have no idea how much it means to just if I get emails periodically. People being like, love the show, helped me through a rough time. And that means everything to me. If I can be a distraction for you guys in this cruel world, that's all I can ever ask.

But the fact that you like, you take what I have to say about UFOs. and like think about that that it's it's never lost at me i just want you guys to know that um i truly do appreciate it even all these years later so um thank you thank you from the bottom of my heart to darren and to all of you um for just continuing to support us um wow okay i've really gone off track um oh thank you so much joseph for the super sticker but he truly do appreciate that we're on our way we are on our way to meeting that five super chat super sticker goals So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. What else? I went to Hiroshima.

I went to Hokkaido here in Japan, which was incredible. Apologies if you can hear the sirens outside. I went to something called the Snow Festival in Hokkaido, which were these huge snow sculptures. It was so cool seeing that. I went to the first ever international. Darren, I love you, but I'm going to take you off screen. We've docks you long enough, my friend. I went to the first international indigenous museum symposium,

which brought together indigenous people from all around the world, and they came to Hokkaido, Japan, and gave talks about their museums and how they curate the indigenous peoples' exhibits at these things, and how to preserve their culture, their language, and how to do it properly. The National Ainu Museum, the Ainu people are the indigenous people of Japan.

And those are the people that my partner are studying for her PhD. That's why we're here in Japan, actually. She went to every museum throughout the islands and met the curators and talked to experts. And we went to this symposium. I had the honor of attending with her, which was awesome. And yeah, they want to learn what makes a good. an indigenous museum or exhibit.

How do you do it properly? And it was so interesting because we went to the National Museum, which is funded by the government, the National Ainu Museum. And then we went to an Ainu Museum up in an area called Bita Tori, which is in northern Hokkaido, four feet of snow while we were there, snowed every second. It was insane. I've never seen so many people on crutches in my life from falling,

slipping on ice, breaking legs, breaking limbs. It was crazy. But yeah, we had at least four and a half feet of snow at one point. Insane. But we went to an actual Ainu Museum run by Ainu people and the contrast between what the Ainu people consider special, sacred, and want to show to the world in their museum.

And then a government-funded National Museum was so interesting. You know, because ostensibly, like the government is responsible for kind of pushing the indigenous people away, just like in the United States or the Native Americans or the First Nations people in Canada. So it was so fascinating to see the dichotomy there, too. But again, that's what my partner's doing to work on, and she's striving to keep the Ainu culture alive and hoping to help these museums moving forward as well on doing it properly.

So, yeah, I commend her and I respect the hell out of her for what she's doing. And it afforded us this incredible opportunity. Wow. Let's talk UFOs. Sound good. Let's do it. You know what that means. We got to bring her in.

Got to bring her in because she knows more about this stuff than I do because she's the one that always brings the stories to me every week. So without further due, I'm going to bring her in. one the only Suzanne Landers. Are you muted? You're muted, of course. You're too polite. I got it.

Good grief. Good grief. We both have been sick all week, but I'm back in business today. Oh, I know. So I will go easy on you tonight. I know you're not feeling too well. I think I'm finally catching something.

I, in three months of not sleeping in my own bed and traveling and being on 10 planes and a new place every other day. I'm like, how have I not gotten sick yet? So knocking on wood. Yeah. It's hard to travel and not get sick. Well, I'm wishing you the best. Yes, I know, I know. I hope you feel better. And in everything here, like, if you're not using chopsticks, you're using your fingers to eat. So I'm like, you're at contact. Yeah. Germs, germs, germs. But. It sounds wonderful. Thank you.

Thank you. But I cannot wait to get back home and get back into the routine of doing the live streams every week for you guys. Without getting up at dark 30 in the morning because isn't that what time it is where you are? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I, you know, I woke up this morning and you sent me something that we're going to be talking about in a little bit. And I literally couldn't even, my brain couldn't even process it. I'm like, coffee.

I need coffee for Suzanne, which I have. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. Yeah. Thank you so much for that. We got a couple more super stickers. We got one from the biologist. You can go back up here and find it.

There, is that it? Yeah. Biologist is one of our biggest fans. Met him in Ohio. Wonderful guy. Thank you, my friend. I appreciate that. And then we got one from the pocket dog, which is a great thing.

I love that, a pocket dog. Thank you, guys. Wow. We're almost there. Three, five. Two more. We're good. Thank you.

Thank you. Yeah, that'll be open all night. So, you know, we reach our goal of five. We can keep going. We're not going to say no to that. That's right. That's right. Thank you so much.

So what do you say? Should we hop in? I feel like I've talked, again, 20 minutes in, and we haven't even gotten to UFOs yet. So let's do it. Let's do it. We haven't seen this man's face in a while when it comes to presidents, half. If you're watching this on YouTube, or sorry, if you're listening in the future, we're showing on YouTube. Former President Barack Obama is back in the news when it comes to aliens.

This is gone there. Oh, my God. A 20-second clip, which we showed right at the top. I'm going to show it again in just a second. This 20-second clip has gone viral. CNN, NBC, just covered it this morning. Go over to Twitter right now. I dare you to not see this story spreading.

All because of something he said. about aliens, which could be taken a million different ways. But the big contention, let's play the clip, and then we'll get to why everyone's a little upset about this. How's that sound? Should we replay it? Yeah, play it one more time, and everybody listen carefully. Yeah, listen carefully to this very brief clip.

Listen intently. Are aliens real? They're real, but I haven't seen them, and they're not being kept in, what is it? Area 51. There's no underground facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they hit it from the president of the United States. What was the first question you wanted answered when you became president? Where are the aliens?

Okay. First of all, this is from the Brian Tyler Cohen podcast. He's a, I believe a Democratic. progressive podcaster and had Obama on. A couple things. Don't play coy with us, Obama. What is it? Area 51. You know exactly what Area 51 is.

He does. I believe that side glance when he's talking about it. Correct me if I'm wrong, Suzanne. But I do believe this might be the first time in history. A former U.S. president said the term, aliens are real. That's exactly right. And it happened so quietly and so subtly. And I was, when I watched it, whenever, whatever evening it came out, I thought, well, did disclosure just happen? Is this what it looks like? This wasn't how I was perceiving it, but okay.

Wrong month and wrong president, according to our story from two weeks ago. But don't you wonder if it is anticipation, an anticipation of what's coming? coming from the current guy and the date that's looming. I wonder if it's been thought through. Yeah. A few things here. What I think is going on in this very brief exchange about aliens is we need more context and we need follow up.

There are mainstream journalists commenting on, dude, how did you not follow up and go on to a different topic after that. Like, come on. The question was hard. Yeah, the question. And look, I understand. You have a former president on your podcast. You are probably under a very strict time constraint with him.

So you got to get to what was planned. Everything. I guarantee you everything that he was asked in that podcast was predetermined. What would be asked? What couldn't be asked? And maybe this was just like, let's do a brief, fun little exchange about aliens. And then we'll move on. Maybe he wasn't expecting that answer from Obama.

But what I think we're seeing here is Obama kind of saying like, yeah, of course, there's aliens out there somewhere. Like mathematically, like that cliche we always hear. Mathematically, it's impossible that aliens don't exist. And he followed that up by saying, but I haven't seen the proof. I haven't seen the evidence. They're not at an underground facility or whatnot, at least not to my knowledge. That's what he said that. There's a funny story about my youngest child who was just the worst about telling somebody what their Christmas or birthday present was going to be when he was little.

He would get so excited. He'd just tell you. And so we were trying to teach him not to tell. And so he would get that same look on his face when asked what someone's birthday present was. And he would say, well, it's not a bowling ball. You know, and it's a bowling ball. But, you know, I don't have that whole feel with. him with Obama.

Like, well, they're not at Area 51. Looks away. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you would know. You're pretty good with the facial expression. I don't know. And that's something.

I just, you know, can't be concrete about what it is, but it did catch my eye. It was interesting. And again, like, obviously people are going to pull this mini clip and take what they want from it. The debunkers will use it. The believers will use it. It is, like I said, if you go to Twitter right now, it is like the top trending thing and it's reaching the masses.

And that's never a bad thing. It gets people talking about UFOs, about aliens, about former presidents and their connections to this topic. I'm going to play a clip in a second here of an interview that I conducted with someone who asked Obama the same exact question almost and got a much different and more expansive answer. he also asked former President Bill Clinton about aliens as well. So I'm going to play a clip from an interview I conducted with Reggie Watts. For those of you who don't know, Reggie Watts, he was the former band leader for the late, late show with James Gordon. He's a comedian, he's an actor, he's a musician, all around awesome dude, and he is heavily into UFOs. If you go back into the archives and listen to the interview with Reggie Watts, it blew my mind.

The stuff he knows, the stuff he theorizes about UAP, UFOs. But like I said, when he was on the late late show, he had the opportunity to ask two former presidents about aliens and had more time with them than this very brief exchange that we saw here. So, and then then I want to get to some comments that you personally heard at the Soul Foundation. about presidents and UFO. So let's watch this Reggie Watts clip first, break that down a little bit, and then we'll get to some of your knowledge on this as well. Sound good?

Perfect. All right. Let me find this Reggie Watts one, guys. Enjoy. We got a bunch of video clips tonight, guys. So sit back, relax, get ready. They're all pretty extensive. So, yeah, grab those coffees, those beers, those wines.

Let's watch this brief clip from my past. interview with Reggie Watts. There's no doubt that Clinton's probably got closer than anyone when it came to this UFO topic. Do you think they know more than what, you know, Bill kind of portrayed when you interviewed him on the late, late show? Do you think he knows more than he's telling the public on all this? Man, it's so hard to say.

I mean, it's, I guess, you know, people think that the, I don't know, presidents have. like more power than they actually do like they don't they don't really have as much access as people like to think that they have access to um it's not like i'm president tell me all the secrets like like things are partitioned and compartmentalized you know on purpose so that we maintain an edge you know in our defense or offensive or defensive strategy militarily so i you know i would believe that he wouldn't be shown everything she wouldn't be shown everything um but obviously you're around a lot of people that you know have different levels of like how well they

can keep a secret so I'm sure there's I'm sure that they know more than they're letting on but I'm also certain that they don't know all of it so I think it's something like that I think that he definitely knows more. I think he's probably talked, if he's that interested, he's asked a lot of questions. Because how can you not? You know, like when you're, you know, you're like the presidency of the United States,

you've had an interest in UFOs for a long time and, or UIPs. And, oh, yeah, how would you not, how would you just lose that curiosity? It just doesn't go away. Because when you're presented with the opportunity to know more, it's like just being a human being and we're all curious creatures. is like, we want to know more about stuff and won't settle for just like, well, can't really tell you about that. You know, you're going to keep digging.

You're going to keep asking like, you know, you meet someone and you're like, yeah, I heard they used to be with Project Blue Book. Did you have any opinions? You know, whatever. That's going to happen. So I'm sure they do know more, but I don't think they know everything. I don't think that they know definitive stuff necessarily. That's a good point. You know, presidents are temporary.

So, you know, can you trust them with all the information once they leave office? I don't know, you know, especially when they get up there on their deathbeds and they're like, you know, you never know, they're going to pull the trigger and say, yes, you know, aliens crash in Roswell, we've been covering it up. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think that's a chance they're willing to take in my opinion. I don't think so. I think Obama knows a little more. I think he's a really smart dude, and I mean, Clinton's a smart dude too, but he's a little bit more aloof in a way. Maybe that's That's his personal projection.

But Obama, I get a sense that he definitely knows a lot more because he wanted the what he said was like, I mean, it's not really information we haven't heard heard of, really, the way he's saying it, but the fact that he's saying it is important. But I also think he knows a lot more, whether it's like these are special weapons programs. This could be like stuff, you know, this could be like in-gad stuff, you know, it's like this could be whatever the next stealth bomber like you know we're talking about sixth generation fighters you know we're talking you know we're talking about autonomous or you know we're talking about those technologies that people believe

that they're creating plasmic fields to create a false radar signature you're able to project plasmic fields which is kind of like oh that's interesting it creates a physical presence and shows up on radar is that what we could possibly be seeing when at the go fast and the tic-tac and stuff like that is that some of that Plasmic projection technology? Is that why it can go from air to water at the same rate of speed? Because it's not really truly physical. But who knows? I don't know. But like, you know, I have a feeling that he knows more than Clinton would necessarily. Interesting. Well, you know, you mentioned Obama and his thoughts. Let's go ahead and play the other clip, Reggie. Get your thoughts on the other side

on that. I'll go. I don't know that. I feel like he was the one deflecting there. I mean, he got, he got serious for a second. Yeah. And then he turned it on you and started going with the comedy. What do you think? Well, you could see that he was trying to discern, like, decide, like, how much he should say and how he should say it. There was this, like, a lot of, like, what should I? Because he wanted to say more, but he wanted to say, you know, as much as he could, I guess.

I don't know. But there was definitely, it felt there was this feeling of, yeah. just like he wanted to say more than he was able to say. Okay. First of all, sorry about that scratchy sound guys. That was in the original interview. I was having tech issues. Someone said, oh, that looks like Ryan was in Hawaii.

No, I was actually, that was my first morning in Scotland when I moved to the UK. I didn't even put my bags down. And I got this opportunity to interview Reggie Watts. And he could only do this time. and it was I didn't even like I unlocked the door to an Airbnb that we're staying at before we got our apartment here or there in Scotland I'm in Japan oh my God and I was had to sign on and do the interview so yeah the lengths we go Suzanne absolutely it has to be done it has to be done exactly but my gosh and then you know we didn't play the clip of him asking Obama because it's it's copywritten from the late late show. But if you guys go back on YouTube, you can just type in Reggie Watts,

Obama, aliens, you can watch the full clip about what he asked him. But he does. He talks very seriously about it with Reggie and the audience there. You know, he cracks some jokes as you do on a late night comedy show. You have to. And Obama can be a pretty

funny guy. Funny guy. It does do. And maybe that works against it when it comes to trying to talk about this topic or deflect certain things. But enough of that, enough of that. I just thought it would be cool to get someone's perspective who has actually asked Obama and followed up with Obama about aliens and UFOs.

So what do you make of all this? I'd love to put all this in a little presidential perspective because this is not going to shock you or anyone listening, but I keep a running spreadsheet of data on the presidents of the United States on the topic of UFOs. And so I pulled that last night because I was trying to think, you know, how do we get to this, to this statement of just a simple yes, but I haven't seen them? So I went back to Clinton and I pulled my data on Clinton and he and Hillary apparently had some kind of experience and he used the anniversary of Roswell in 1983 to bring the topic up in the public. And in 1994, I'm sorry, 1993, I think I said 83. It's 93. In 93, in 93, in 94, after the

government reopened after a closing. The government ended the conversation telling him it was, of course, a weather balloon. And Clinton says, but wait, what about the bodies at the scene? Oh, they were crashed dummies. They were crashed. Yep, I remember that. Yeah. So he then went on his own investigation, trying to find it inside the government, and he couldn't find anything. And he absolutely thought they were keeping the information from him. And then you will recall at Seoul, in 2024 in California, Eric Davis took the stage. And Eric Davis said with great confidence and direct knowledge that Eisenhower, Truman, Carter, Bush 2, not Bush 1, Trump, Per, Jay Stratton, Reagan and Nixon were all read in and Clinton was not because they did not trust him.

All right? So that's the Clinton years. Let's move on to Barack Obama. The head. The head of his transition team was John Podesta. John Podesta had been the chief of staff for the Clinton team, right? Podesta had gone public saying that the topic needed serious research, which I feel like maybe that's finally happening, right, at this point. And he spoke about disclosure at the 2002 press club event. And he said, frankly, Americans can handle the truth. Basically, it's time to tell it. But at the time Obama was called dismissive of the topic. So I think that's interesting. I think where we've watched maybe a learning curve, I don't know.

Then Obama created the We the People site on the topic. I don't know if anybody remembers that. Yeah, the petition. The petition through that. And then when later asked after that about whether UFOs were real, he said there was no evidence of intelligence, life, living. on the planet or coming to the planet. So keeping this in perspective, I think is really important because we're in a wildly different spot today than we were when he was president. And then we'll

look at Donald Trump. Trump, when asked in the first presidency, he said, space is a war fighting domain like air, land, and sea. We might even have a space force, which we now barely have. And then after the release of the gimbal and the GoFast videos through Leslie Kane and whatnot, Trump's public comment was that he didn't believe UFOs were real. So now here we are today. Yes, they're real. I just haven't seen them. All right.

Yeah. It's so I. Perspective matters. Perspective matters. It does. And time does funny things. It does. And, you know, it is interesting to hear both.

these precedents, Obama and Trump, the dismissiveness in the beginning and now the seriousness. And the fact that Obama is now saying aliens are real. I think, again, the big question is, okay, aliens are real. Again, I think a lot of us can agree on that, but have they visited? And they're saying they haven't seen the evidence of that. I don't know. As someone brings up in the chat, a lot of these former world leaders have been found in the Epstein files. So do we really want to take their words as truth to a lot of these things? We won't get into the Epstein thing. We already talked about it a couple weeks ago.

But I think that is worth noting that a lot of these powerful people have been caught up in this extremely disturbing web of power and influence that is the Epstein thing. So it is what it is. That is a still unfolding story. Absolutely. A horrifying one. Horrifying to say the least. But yeah, this is interesting.

I have a feeling we're going to get a response by Obama. No one else is going to follow up with him on this. Like, hey, remember that 20-second clip that went viral where you said aliens are real? Can you expand on that? And I think we will get some clarification. I could see that. that happening because or maybe not you know maybe this is obama kind of sticking it to trump and being like oh oh poor baby you let me just go ahead and do this for you yeah you were you were

you were going to disclose in july i'm going to do it on february 15th happy late valentine's work here is done i don't know i don't know i thought oh man we will get in more into politics Well, a different day today than where we were when he was president. Amen. Amen. Yeah, in many ways. Let's move to our next story. Texas is in the news a lot this week because something crazy happened in the U.S. Something really crazy that also affected you in some ways, too, over there. the airport in el paso texas was dramatically and abruptly shut down uh and it was said to it was going to last for 10 days

right and we had no information on why what was going on um nobody from the f aa or the white house were commenting at first about what was happening and airports were shut down and this was this had a trickle effect all throughout you know south west authorized lethal force is authorized that's the most important part and all without the knowledge of the fAA that is insane in the crazy yeah um so you know again like i'm over here i'm i'm i'm in a bubble over here not really knowing what's going on anywhere else in the world. But again, like, you are not that far in comparison to El Paso, Texas. So, like, what was, like, what was going on?

What were your initial reactions when you heard this news? My initial reaction, well, let me say this first, because by the time I got to see it, the critics had already gotten hold of it on the military end of how dangerous a decision this was to do this in this airspace, which is really busy airspace people, really busy. It serves so much of that southwestern area. But to have things being shocked down without notice to the FAA, it was just a really dangerous scenario. And so all the FAA and military people were already reacting by the time I could, I almost had to

drink all of that before I could even watch the video to try to. get the context of it. I think maybe one of a couple of things. You know, we shot down a party balloon with a deadly laser. I think that's been confirmed, confirmed in the same sense that the bodies at Roswell were crashed dummies. But that's the official statement. I guess I'll put it that way. But it sure was extraordinary, extraordinary effort and danger to take down a party balloon. So I'm just not thinking it's party balloon. Yep. Let's get to that. So this came out from Enigma Labs. As you guys know, this is a UFO reporting app that you can download on your phone and input your UFO videos, your UFO photos. It goes into a database. It gets logged.

You know, according to the time, the date, the location, the shape of the object you saw. It puts it through all these algorithms, AI, I believe, and produces a report about it. And they collect all this data where that data goes. None of us really know. It is an enigma to us. It is. Literally. It is. But it's really cool. They get amazing video. They really do. We need to follow them on social media because they routinely post some of the best things that they get on the app. It's really worth a follow. It is.

It is. You know, and our good friend and colleague, of course, my good friend who I forgot his name again, guys, it's not even 7 a.m. over here. So I do apologize. We have. We just need to be drinking from that coffee pot instead of a coffee stop. Exactly. Oh, my gosh. Al-Ahandro Rojas. I love you, buddy. I'm so sorry that I forgot your name temporarily. I blacked out.

Works for Enigma and he's always sending me some cool videos that they got going on. So cool stuff. Your videos are going to me. They're not going to the CIA or then DoD guys. That's the enigma behind it. They're all going on. Citizens Science Matters. Citizen Science Matters. But this is important. A UFO, a large hovering U.S. UFO was spotted over El Paso hours before the temporary airport closure. We have the video. Should I show it? Absolutely show it.

Okay. Let's watch. In the chat, thanks. Okay. Here we go. Here is the El Paso UFO that was cited near the airport. Not long before this event. Let me grab it.

Here we go. So I actually had this pull to the side of the road. See if I could get a good. shot like this. It's, you can barely see it looks like a dot here, but it's actually huge. And there was stuff coming out from the bottom of it. Whoa. Okay. Again, like, in terms of UFO videos, is it like the most incredible, clear thing? No, obviously. Um, but this is a person in Texas. I mean, you know, all these things are authenticated before they're put onto the Enigma website. So like, you know, they geolocate where

the video is taken, all that. They have the raw data. so they can make sure, yes, this person was in El Paso, Texas. This is, you know, time, date, stamped, all that good stuff. So, yeah, this was a UFO scene over El Paso. The gentleman in the video said it was huge. And again, this video was taken from far away at this point, so it does look very small, like he says, dot. But we do get a closer look temporarily in there.

And then he said that things were coming out from, yeah, underneath it, which is a little troubling to me. Again, could this be a cluster of balloons with like a bigger balloon? Maybe, but it doesn't sound like we would. Yeah, I don't think we'd be seeing something fall from this object or hovering. And, you know, this landscape, this is one of the difficulties of the American Southwest and the things we see out there. Because the landscape is not unlike the ocean, right? I mean, it is vast and open.

And unless you just happen to be in a mountainous region at the time, you're going to get this. And then perspective is very difficult. So his verbal description of it hovering, I think, is really important and that it was huge. So I think we're going to have to take his word forward on that. And I think that if Enigma did not think that that was right, it would not have gone up the way he did. Right. Exactly. So again, was that party balloon, a UFO that was shot down?

Look at those, like you mentioned earlier, all those shootdowns that happened a couple years ago at this point. We still have no idea. Some of them were Chinese spy balloons. That has been confirmed. But that thing over Alaska, we still have no idea. The recovery efforts were apparently they weren't able to recover anything. I have heard differently.

I've spoken to witnesses in Alaska who said they saw, the recovery. They did recover the object there. And it's still a mystery of what it was. So crazy stuff. I mean, some UFO researchers, I wanted to stress this too, say that this is not an isolated

citing, Suzanne. Anigma and the National UFO Reporting Center have logged multiple reports of large mothership style objects, including several in El Paso in the days leading up to the shutdown. We probably need to

look at El Paso as a podcast episode to see what's going on with all these. Because we are obviously used to it. Yep. We have a good friend UFO Jane, Jane Kyle, who does UFOs in Texas. She's kind of dropped off in the UFO field and community, but I'm in touch with her every now and again. And she is on top of UFOs in Texas. So I think it's about damn time. We reach back out to her.

Yeah. I'm going to do that after this episode and see what she thinks about. this story for sure um okay let's move to another UFO video all right um we had a week of news this we had a week jeremy corbell fascinating it is corbell nap they're back at it again we shared a video that they posted a couple weeks ago um and then i think within like not even five hours of our live stream they dropped another video this one much more compelling i will admit. So is this the best video yet that George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell have shown us? I want to ask you guys that question after we watch the video and get a breakdown from Corbell

Knapp and Merrick von running camp. He is a former analyst for the Department of Defense and a contributor to the Hill. He often works with Corbell and Knapp when it comes to. these UFO videos. And he's often also seen bickering and arguing on Twitter with Mick West about the videos. He's up with him. It's a divine thing to watch if you haven't got to participate in one yet. But he is a real jewel to them on these videos, that science background and analyst background. Boy, it really pays off in spades on this. Agreed. Agreed. So I think what we'll do is we'll watch the video in full. They do a fun, not fun, but they, cool thing where they go 100 speed, 50 speed, 10 speed, so that we can really kind of get a sense

of what this object is doing. It's not even the shape, which already, if you're watching this on YouTube, looks pretty damn close to what we consider a saucer, a oval, a mushroom, as I think it was officially called. Yeah, that was the term they used. Yeah. That's the official term. Yeah. So you're seeing a still image right now. We're going to show the video. Then we're going to I'm here from Carbell Map and Renan Kampf on their analysis of it. So let's watch the video. Again, if you're listening to this on the podcast, it's going to be a little quiet. I would highly suggest coming over to YouTube and watching our video version of the live stream for these videos.

So let's go ahead, Suzanne and watch the latest UAP video from Syria. Oh, let's give some context. I'm so sorry. So this video was taken in 2021 over Syria, imaged from the border of Jordan. It was captured on forward-looking fleer. The platform was an MQ9 Reaper drone. Again, this seems to be the way a lot of these videos are being captured lately. And then filmed by a platform operating under the direction of the United States Air Force.

They do give a description on what the object does, but I want you guys to watch it before we get the official description. by the DOD on what this thing was doing. So, okay, finally, we're going to watch the video. Here we go. Here it is. All right, so we're seeing it from far away now. It doesn't look like anything extraordinary yet. And is this at 100%?

This is 100% speed. We're getting a little closer. They're locking in on the object. It says no. It says no. Exactly. It's not for a lock on. Yeah, so they kept trying to lock in on this thing, and it kept out maneuvering the Reaper drone technology.

Okay. Looks like they got a solid lock on it now. But you guys ain't seen nothing yet. Okay. They've zoomed in massively. And there, oh, that gave me chills. Okay. So now we're looking at the mushroom-shaped object, traveling, which looks pretty darn fast.

You know, we've got all this data on the screen. Yep. It's had enough. It just made a dramatic bank of some sort and took off. So now we're going to watch it at 50 speed close up. Look at that. I know. So crazy.

I wish we could see it in visual as well. Oh, my gosh. I'm sorry to interrupt. Let's watch that 25 speed. Watch that last moment there, Susie. So crazy. Okay, it banks, but then watch right here. Then it...

I know. It banked and then it took off. Yeah. At like an unbelievable speed. No tail of no sign of propulsion? Nothing. An amorphous and as it darts to the right, how it spreads itself out. Yeah.

In the world. Okay, here we are at five percent. It's the easy to see. Yeah. Now you can see the almost saucer shape. Yep. Very gimbal-esque. Very. Gimble video, I mean, not the camera. Okay.

I know. All right. So they did kind of a cleaning up of it, so you get a better idea of the shape here. Again, I'm not really, I don't like when they do the AI thing to clean it up because it can distort so much. But I understand. Right. boom okay who let's get us back on

screen here okay and that's something and that thing's been vetted deeply vetted right right I'm speechless this is probably one of the best videos we've gotten out of them and you know people give them

flack like these videos are so grainy they're so bad you're being pranked there's a reason they're giving you the shitty stuff when like we can literally these MQ Reaper drones can zoom in on like the buttons of someone's shirt on a drug cartel boat before we bomb it. But we can't get a clear video of these UFOs. What is going on? But I will say like despite this object still being somewhat grainy and whatnot, the maneuvers of that thing were extraordinary, in my opinion. Again, who am I?

I don't know. Is it a drone? Possibly. I don't think that's a drone. Good Lord. I don't think there's any technology. We know of that can do those things, including the spreading out at the end when it zips over to the right. It almost looks like it's nothing but smoke and then it pulls itself back together. So I understand what this is. But I can tell you what I don't want to hear from the government is that it's a weather balloon or that it's a freaking party balloon or whatever, a Chinese bullion. balloon. If that's the Chinese, in fact, I think Renencamp says this later in the video. If you are able to watch it, if the Chinese have that, we're goneers. We've done. We're done. It's over. Let's watch that. Yeah.

We have that clip with Carbell, Knapp, and with Merrick. And yeah, they kind of break it down and clarify some things and give their analysis of what we might be looking at in this video. So let's watch this one. drones don't move yeah exactly exactly anyone see the me too yeah let's watch that we'll follow up next week unlike our friend asking Obama about aliens we will follow up I promise okay here we go welcome to Sephora I'm looking for a perfume that's not too perfuming I got you serum moisturizer or moisturizer syrup let's get into layering my can see

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And these are all known drones. You'll notice that even in lower, from further away and lower fidelity infrared video, you can still see the body basically of an aircraft and the wing structure, right? Even here, you can see the wing structure and the body of the aircraft, clearly visible here. And then a quadcopter, of course, you know, has a very distinct shape and outline. in infrared and it looks absolutely nothing like this. No wings, no tail, no rotors, no exhaust, no plumes of heat. Exactly. And just to my point about this kind of footage not being classified, this is all

out there. This is actually footage from the exact same sensor platform in MQ9. These are all, believe it or not, this is what we're looking at is an MQ9 taking video of other MQ9s on a runway. And you can see we're in White Hot, WHT. The engines in the back are hot. And they are, believe it or not, they're white. You see that, you see the exhausts, right, from these F-16s. Now, George, to your question, these look like F-C-these look like fighter jets. These look like drones. That most certainly does not look like any kind of conventional aircraft that I can think of.

I want to address, I think, the first thought that I had, hey, man, maybe this is the sensor operator jerking the camera around and that this is, you know, this is, because that could, that could. and we saw that in the famous Tick-Tac video. There's one moment, I think about midway through the video where the operator changes the field of view, basically changes the lens system and it looks like it shoots off. And we can actually, we can investigate that hypothesis. And so if you guys don't mind, I'll kind of,

I'll pull up what I... For the average person, because you're so technical, it takes me a second to understand. Man, when I first saw it, right? I mean, of course, I have some background on it. But I thought the instantaneous motion was when it started going away, what looked like away from the camera. And that was so impressive. And then that little thing to the right, I was like, no way. They had to move the camera, just being all of that thing moved away.

But the idea you're having is that they were examining the instantaneous motion, not just the incredible shootaway, but then that move to the right was the actual instantaneous motion. That's what I'm struggling to understand here. And it does seem to indicate that that was indeed a very anomalous maneuver and an example, again, of that instantaneous acceleration observable. So I will quickly, I'll share, let's see if this works here. I do want to investigate this theory, potentially that this could be the sensor operator rapidly, inadvertently moving the camera to the side. And I don't think that that's the case because we actually see the operator.

Once it shoots off to the right or appears to shoot off to the right, the operator actually does precisely that. The operator moves the camera because operator wants to find this thing and where did it go? So we do have an example. There it goes off to the right. And then here I'm going to go frame by frame. The operator rapidly moves that camera to the right. you can see the whole background, everything, the entire scene shifts from right to left.

So this is what we would be seeing if the operator had indeed moved that camera. And that could have been the, right, if folks want to say that that's what explains that instantaneous acceleration, we don't see that when that object shoots off to the right. And there's another way, I think, and even just another way to analyze this and give us even more confidence that this is not, some camera artifact, and that is that the object moves left to right. So it has this apparent rightward motion. First of all, it moves kind of left, and it appears to really make a course change, and then it shoots off to the right. But we see that the background, actually, if we look very, very closely, the background is actually moving perpendicularly as a result of parallax,

kind of just the way the plane is moving. The background appears to move from, from basically downwards from top to bottom. And we'll show that here. So here the object zips off. And you can see the background moving downwards. But we can do it even more slowly. We'll go frame by frame here. There goes the object.

It shoots off to the right. And we're going to stop here. And we'll go frame by frame. And we'll see there's a couple of features, darker features that move straight down. Even while the object is still visible moving right, the background is moving right. is moving downwards.

And that, to me, is a very strong indicator that this object did what it appears to do. And as remarkable as it is, despite any observable propulsion, just zips off. And no technology that I know of can do anything remotely, remotely close to that. Okay. I am convinced.

You know, I always go to Parallax as the first possible explanation for any, you know, weird movement and whatnot. But he makes a convincing case there of like the fact that the background is so subtly scrolling down, but the object is still doing the movement. That shows us that the camera did not move left to right. It may have gone down a little, but like that object that was still on camera did do what it appeared. to do according to Merrick. So and then you know the whole idea of what a reaper, another Reaper drone or a drone would look like in context of another Reaper drone capturing it on camera and then showing that what we're looking at doesn't seem appear to be a drone so. And I suspect they have a lot more data than what they're sharing in

this film. I'm sure they've been able to take whatever clip they got and dig into that to make sure there's no funny business going on. Right. Agreed. Hey, I'm in. I love it. I hope we get further information. You know, people always say, like, these videos are so bad or like, you know, don't put these out. It's whatever. But hey, they're putting these out to the public so that we can then do these sorts of things. Mick West can do his debunk. Merrick can do his side of it. I do, I want to see what McWest has to say about it. It's a we should look at both sides of the coin guys. Listen to it all. if we can explain it, let's explain it. If it's conventional, awesome. If we can explain it, we need to demand more data or we need to accept that it is an anomalous object. It does beg the question for me, though, if they have this in thermal, don't they also have it in just visual light? I don't know why we can't both to see, but maybe they don't. Maybe this is how they operate. I guess it would

depend on the time of day and the light source. Like if it was shot at night or whatever, like would we, you know, would a normal camera be able to capture anything? Right. I don't know. Good point. Good point. Well, hey, again, I look forward to hearing more about that. But let's move on to another Corbell-Lazar adjacent story. This is kind of fun.

So for those of you in the UFO field, you probably know these guys pretty well on your screen here. We've got Jesse Michaels. We've got Chris Ramsey. Chris hosts the Area 52 Investigations podcast. Jesse Michaels from American Alchemy.

You've also got UAP Gerb, join them on stage here. And then we've got a filmmaker and a very iconic character in the UFO world, Bob Lazare. This was at an event put,

on called It's Probably Nothing. This is a live tour that Chris Ramsey and Jesse Michaels are doing. They kind of joined forces and they're going on a live tour podcast live tour, which is so cool. These are the kinds of things that I would love to do someday. For sure. This would be so much fun. But it's clear that these guys have put a lot of work, effort, time, money, resources into this live tour. Their set looks incredible.

And they did their premiere in a, of, course, Texas. It's coming back. Why not? Yep. And they brought out surprise guests. Luigi Vettitelli is his name. He is a filmmaker who's coming out with a documentary on Bob Lazar called S4. And he came out and to the surprise of the entire audience, so did Bob Lazar. And apparently from what we've heard from people who have been, who were there, people went nuts. Went crazy. I just went crazy when it was on. Unexpectedly. So I put out a call for anyone that went to this event. And I put it out pretty late, unfortunately.

So I didn't get a lot of response. I did. You found an incredible video, which I'm not going to play it because we're already running behind because of my dumb banter at the top of the show, as usual. But I will link to it eventually. There was a gentleman. who went to the event and did like a 15-minute review of what he did and experienced there. We'll link it at some point.

Really funny. He's from a podcast called Cover Your Ears, Children. It's fucking It's Fucking Aliensbro.com. Again, that's it's fucking aliens bro. I'm going to put it in the chat. Please do. Yeah. So he does a fun review of the entire event.

But I did get a message just before we went live here from one of our listeners and former, not former, current colleague, Smiles Lewis, UFO researcher. And he put it on our Facebook group, Hey, Ryan, I was there. It was fun. I briefly met Chris and Jesse before the show. Jeremy Corbelle was in attendance amongst the audience. My friend who took me with him got his question asked. UAP Gerb was good. The audience aided all up and they went crazy when Lizar walked on stage. That was a fully unexpected treat.

That said, Bob Lizar said practically nothing aside from how impressed he is by the detailed accuracy of the new S4 documentary recreation of his experiences. Now again, this new documentary coming out, they recreated the entire Area 51 facility, the craft, the hangar. everything that Bob Lazar has come forward with, they recreated down to the pen, down to the document, down to the coffee cup. When can we go? When can we go? They did practical effects and they did AI and they recreated everything, according to Bob's memory and the testimony he's done throughout the decades. So I'm really interested to see that and how Bob Lazar reacts to all of that. So that was kind of what he talked about at this event. he didn't bring forward any huge bombshells or revelations or new information he told his story

as it is the story that he was has remained pretty consistent with for 30 plus years now at this point um so yeah i think some people were expecting bombshells to come out of the bobbazar being there but um that didn't happen but he i wouldn't think so though because every time he's made a statement they've searched his house they've been pounded his car. It just turns into a huge mess for him every time he says anything. So let the documentary do what it's going to do. Let it speak. Yeah, I agree. I agree. We will have the filmmaker Luigi on The Summer in the Sky's podcast to talk all about S for the upcoming documentary. We'll be interviewing him closer to when it comes out. I don't know a date of that. But the people in attendance

in Texas got a screening of the trailer for the movie. And people said, oh, get ready. Like, it's going to be awesome. So, hey, look, I've been critical of Bob Lazar in the past. I'm hot or cold on the man. I ebb it flow. I believe him one day. I don't believe him the next.

But that is the enigma of Bob Lazar. So I'm looking forward to it. And I also think you have to keep him in perspective. when he was basically trying to be a whistleblower, which, you know, without a mechanism to whistleblow, no one was ready to hear that. No one was ready, educated on this topic, knowledgeable in how to vet and debunk

and give credibility to this subject, different world today. So true. I mean, if anything, like, say what you want about Wizar and his story and his claims, but like he is the first OG quote unquote whistleblower we can define that many different ways he also is the reason we know about area 51 him and nap like we would not know about that facility if it were not for bobbazar coming forward um he put it on the map and i guarantee you the minute he did that if there was craft there if there were alien bodies that stuff was moved pretty damn quickly um to area 52 to The name of Chris's podcast. I love it.

It's all coming full circle. They have some more dates coming up. I highly suggest people go check out. I think it's probably nothing.com or Google that. You'll probably find their live tour. And if they have stuff like this in store for people, I can't wait. I think their next stop is Montreal. Oh, cool.

Chris is Canadian. So I get it. They're doing a U.S. show, a Canadian one. Hopefully they'll make it to a town near you. or a country. We need to get Chrissy Newton or Paul Kimball on the way to Montreal for that. Yes, we do. We'll do a round table.

A nice, polite, Canadian round table. That'll be the most calm episode and debate we've ever had on the show. I don't know. I have seen Chrissy get feisty and I've seen Paul Kimball get very feisty. Pauce. Spicey lately on American politics. He has a noise is. It gets in his little Canadian crawl.

Yes, he is a passionate guy, for sure. Formerly in politics, did you know that? I did know that. Yeah, he ran for office in Canada. Yeah, that's a whole other conversation for sure. But I want to talk about another Bob Lazar thing. Now, you know, we have, we've had three congressional UAP hearings at this point. And everyone's like, okay, one of the most explosive stories ever about a legacy UAP

program, reverse engineering, UFOs, and all that came from Bob Lazar. Why is this guy not testifying before Congress? He should be the first person in line to do that. And recently, on weaponized, Jeremy Corbelle addresses this very question. Has Bob Lazare been confronted or asked to testify before Congress and would he do it? And he and George Knapp finally give an answer. that question. Should we watch that clip? Absolutely. All right. Let me pull that up.

Guys, little on the longer side. So buckle in. Not that long, I promise. But yeah, I think you're going to like this one. Will or has Bob Lazare been asked to testify before Congress? Let's hear directly from Corbell and Knapp. Here we go. Has Bob Lazar been asked to testify? Yes. multiple times, not just to me, to other, yeah, to you. And so, you know, we would, and there is a world

where Bob does testify. He's no problem testifying. He's already said it all. He's done lie detector test. He testified. But, you know, he also has a little bit of a distrust for the process. And we've seen that in action while we're there by not Congress, but a lot of the staffers. And I don't know, CIA, people that were spooks like Rep. Burchett said that he was approached not to say my name and then set it anyway into the microphone. He's a gangster. And he said that on Andy's podcast, that UFO podcast. He explained what happened. So you and I have seen the Tom fuckery. And I can totally understand why Bob wouldn't want to raise his head above that parapet again. I don't like going to you see it's spooky. But he's been asked.

The first time I was asked to ask him if he would do it maybe five years ago. Yeah. And my initial, I had reservations, but I asked them, and maybe I was pushing him in that direction. And he said, yes. If you think it's a good idea, yes. And after a while, after thinking about it, I'm sorry people will be mad at me for this, but I advised him not to do it. I'm, you know, he's told his story. He does not owe ufology anything. He's been crapped on for more than 30 years by this topic and all the major players in it. It's not like he needs validation from UFO people. And you can see just him popping up on that stage in Austin, all the same crap gets dragged up all over again. And, you know, I think it gets pretty old at this point.

I remember interviewing him here in Las Vegas and maybe 2016 or somewhere around there. He came to town and, you know, he closes the interview with this is the, you know, people that don't believe you and doubt their story. your story, great, good. My advice is spread it around, tell everyone you know that you don't believe it and it's not true and leave me alone. So I don't think it would have been a good idea for him to testify. It would have been a pretty dramatic moment, but the story's been told, you know, and the attacks on his credibility would start all over again. I didn't think it would be a good idea for him. And I think that he trusts you with that. And he has fluctuated as, he's seen how the hearings have proceeded. And maybe one day, maybe we will see that. But

you know, he's he's done, done it. And I think you're right. So that's that's always a personal choice. But just to kind of set the record straight, you know, people need to understand that. And if we don't tell them, they're not going to know that. You know, so that there's a lot that happened behind closed doors for each hearing. I mean, a lot. You know. And And so all of that, all of that should be explained to the public at some point, like what the resistance was to certain witnesses. What are they looking for now? How do they move the ball forward?

And decisively, you know, it's two things, I think. You know, one is footage that actually shows something impossible. That's one. They're on the hunt for footage to show the American public, although we offered it to them. And we didn't get there eventually because of it. of issues. And the other thing I think they're looking for is locations. Go knock on doors and actually show them, audit them. If anybody can do it, you'd imagine it's the, you know, the people in charge of the purse strings of the black budget, whoever that is now, as well as, you know, people that

would have access. And I think they're, I know they're trying, but I've also been told by people at those locations that they can just show them a different room, that they don't need to show them legally. Okay. Before we break this down, Suzanne, knocking on doors, going to locations that is a little tease for our next story,

because there are people doing that, as Corbeau says, and very specifically, people and locations that we're going to. We will break that down in a little bit. But let's talk about this one. Let me unmute you. Oh, I think you have to do it. There we go.

There we go. No, no worries. No, I love that they can show us if we're meeting or not. It's up to us. It is to remember that. Yeah. What do you think about their explanation as to why Bob Lazar has not testified? At least we now know that he's been asked several times and would willingly do it. But yeah, what do you think about their responses to that? I'd have given him the very same advice. What is the benefit for taking the risk? And I don't see any. His story has been his story.

He's never changed his story. There's nothing to clean up or clear up or retract or do differently. The punishment for having said his story has been doled out over and over. I'd leave the man alone. If it were important to him to get that kind of audience, then I might feel differently. I would see a value next to the negative. But right now, I don't see the value. We would all enjoy it.

We would all get a benefit. He would not. Or I don't see it anyway. Maybe there's one and I don't see it. Right. Again, we have to look at where we're at today. Right. I mean, there were no whistleblower protections back when Bob Lazar came forward.

Now we have mechanisms in place constantly evolving legally in terms of like these people coming forward. but even with Grush, like the whistleblower protections were not yet where they should be. And look at what happened with him. So like there are risks and no matter what, Bob Lazar risk a lot coming forward. And the reason

he came forward on national television with George Knapp. George Knapp broke the story on Bob Lazar. The reason he said he came forward was to protect his own life. Now that his face was out there, his information was out there he was on camera saying this if anything happened to him guess who did that to him that's right and guess where you go looking when bob lazar is no longer seen or heard from again so yeah yeah it's interesting to say the least so i understand yep i you know and even nap said like people probably be mad at me but i told him not to do it uh i get and now i get it when you put it into context

I get it. Would I still like to see him do it? Yes. Absolutely. I think it's time. And the day may come. The day may come. But maybe once a whistleblower formal act is in place and law, maybe he would feel differently about having his testimony on a congressional record. But I can imagine that right now, that's not a thing that glimmers for him. I think you're right. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure. Wow. Didn't think 26 we'd be talking about Bob Lazar again, but here we are. And Obama confirming the existence of aliens. Exactly. Exactly.

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We're going to talk about two new whistleblowers that have come forward on the same day and have very similar stories that took place in different countries around in different years. Different decades. Different decades. So we're going to cover that from a story that Christina Gomez did. and a heartfelt message from a colleague and friend Nick Pope that we will read the full message from Nick Pope at the end of this episode. But let's take a very brief break here, guys, and we'll be right back with someone in the live stream. Stick around. These stories are only going to get weirder and more interesting.

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because Obama won't. That's right. We know where they are. One's on your desk, one's on mine. Exactly. But where is the massive UFO so big that a building had to be built around it? Suzanne, that's the question we're going to try to answer. Yeah. And this man right here is the one who's going after it.

The bulldog in Congress right now covering the UAP topic, Representative Eric Berlinson. He was recently on a podcast called Aliens Last Night. And he talked about some interesting stuff. He talked about how, you know, we've had these congressional hearings on a legacy UAP program. Locations have been given to them of where these craft might be held by people like Grush and others behind closed doors and secret meetings and skiffs and all that stuff. So Burlington is finally, finally saying, hey, it's time. It's time we knock on those doors. It's time we challenge these people.

It's time we go there. So he went straight to the wayhouse And he asked certain people The White House, I need permissions, I need clearances I got to go look for this stuff Like I'm sick of it We got to see where this these funds are going That the United States taxpayers are funding

For these programs that we know nothing about Have no oversight If they have to do with the UFOs We got to figure that out to you And yeah He said some interesting stuff So I'm going to play one clip right now where he talks about what he did, the permissions he's seeking, and whatnot.

And then we'll get to the massive UFO part. So let's go ahead and play that clip of Eric Burlington on the podcast. I found this interesting. All right. Where is it? Okay, here we go. All right. The asks that I've put into the White House,

and I think that they legitimately are trying to make happen, is a series of visits to some of these locations. right like i i have obviously been given throughout this investigation locations that where it's reported that that these materials or objects or you know craft exist or the bodies exist or the archive exists and we have um that's where that sits we so we've given the dod a lit so the white house has told the dod to make it happen i mean to trump's credit the as a disclosure so to But that's the extent at which they've been involved is literally just saying to the Department of Defense that, hey, Burleson had, we're backing his request, do what you can to make it happen.

And so I'm very grateful for that. It's been very difficult to make happen. You still got some obstruction. Yes. So that, so we still, I mean, it's got to go all the way down to the end of the fingertip level. And so the, but at the top of the DOD is doing what they can to try to organize this. And it may have to be slimmed down at the beginning. So one of the first, right now we're looking at a doing, following all of this process to have at least just myself go to one site.

And at least that's what they're asking. And then as we went at once we see that process work and have figured out the path, then we'll repeat that. the other locations and include other members of Congress. But at this time, to do a scaled down visit is what we're looking at. And eventually we will go to Area 51 as one of those locations, although really just for nostalgia. From everyone that I've spoken to on this topic that has any kind of information, they say that that's not where the goods are, are not there.

So there's a lot of neat things to see out there. And I think for just, you know, I think it's just completing the whole puzzle. It's something that we definitely have to go see. But I, but I've, but I've, but I've been told that that's not where you're going to find the evidence. Hmm. Okay. So again, like he, he's doing it. He's finally, after three congressional hearings, we've all been like, why has there been no developments in terms of in look?

Like, Anna Luna said they went to like, was it Vandenberg? I think it was. That they like rolled up to and had an Air Force guy be like, oh, you're here about the UFOs? I got to pee. And he like got up and he went and he never came back. Never came back. He literally ghosted them and disappeared. And they're like, okay.

Well, I'm afraid that's what's going to happen to Mr. Burleson. And here's why. You know, in the legal world. world, I'm not going to call you or put on social media that I'm going to send you a subpoena for important things. I'm just going to surprise, attack you with subpoena if it's that important. And so now, he's asked for these locations. He's been told, well, let's do a scale down. And there's nothing at Area 51. And so they got plenty of time to move, whatever is going to be moved. They've got plenty of time to misdirect.

And so I just think that we need to keep our expectations exceptionally low. I would love to be wrong. I'd love to be wrong. But I just don't see this going anywhere. The slowboats already left the dock. You know, we're tamping down. We're not going anywhere anytime soon. So I don't know, guys.

I don't know. Yeah. If there's anything we know in the UFO field, it's to lower your expectations. Absolutely. be pleasantly surprised when something happens. You're not disappointed. Yeah. Michelle says rolling up to Vandenberg to pee.

What I meant was they did roll up there. They went into the meeting and the guy they met with. At the gar or whoever that. Yeah, he was like a top brass dude that they met with. And he was the one to say, I have to pee. And he got up. I have a runway now. Excuse me.

He left his own meeting and then he never came back. hilarious. I don't think this is going anywhere. Good for him. Need to do it. I'm not saying don't do it. I'm not saying any of that. I just think we need to not have very big expectations

around the fruit of this endeavor. Yeah. But there's always a but when it comes to these. There has been this story from Ross Colthardt, and then you can reverse engineer it and even trace it back to Stephen Greer. this rumored massive UFO that is so large when they found it that they couldn't unearth it from the ground in which it either crashed or landed or whatever that they built a building

around it to hide it and study it and do what they had to do with it. I mean, it looks like a Superdome, you know, that's what we're looking for. Yeah, right. I think I said at one point, yeah, I think it's actually in the parking lot of the wall. Walmart in Nebraska or something. That's where it needs to be. Otherwise, we're looking for blurry spots on Google Maps. If you can find us.

But, you know, there have been some interesting theories. People have done whole episodes of podcasts and YouTube's on where they think this massive UFO might be hiding. Ross Colthart has been extremely coy. And I guess if you want to call it careful as a journalist not to expose the location, therefore burning his source who told him the location. But Eric Berlinson also has heard these rumors of the massive UFO with the building built around it. He's looked at Stephen Greer's past claims. He's looking at Ross Colthard's claims.

And apparently that location, many believe, could be in South Korea. So that's kind of what they're looking at. right now is this possibly the place. It does look like a Superdome from above. Yeah, it's crazy. Interesting history behind this building. I don't have it with me right now, but we'll put some links

retrospectively in the show notes for it. But he wants to go look at this location and other locations. But Ross Colthart had some words for him about, hey, you're going to go after the massive UFO with the building built around it. I have some words of advice for you about that.

kind of be careful. So I'm going to play a clip where Burlington on that previous podcast talks about this location, possible, alleged location, going after it. And Ross then responds to him on that. So should we watch that? Let's go for it. Okay. Let's watch this one next. Videos are almost over, guys. I promise you. I promise you.

We're getting there. We're getting there. Okay. Okay, here is Ross Colthart reflecting on the big massive UFO and Eric Burlington's pursuit of that. Here we go, I say, with a question mark. There it is. There it is. Okay, here we go. That is not in this country that is so large, it cannot be moved, that they've built an entire building around it.

And I think that either Greer or another individual has actually mentioned this site, but I'm not going to mention it because it is classified location. But there is a really apparent, there's reported a really large object and that's one of the locations that I'm requesting to get to. It's going to be very, it's going to evolve a lot to get to make that happen. But that may be the final destination. Ah, yes. So this is a reference to, interestingly enough, by Representative Eric Berluson to the story I've been talking about for quite some time, probably two or three years. The allegations that there is a craft that is too big to move. So when the UFO, the craft was discovered, it was non-human technology in a foreign country from the United States.

And that when this craft was discovered, the decision was made to build a building over it. And it's interesting because I've copped the blowtorch from some people online for quite some time. Some are skeptical that such a thing exists, as of course there always will be. and should be. And then to hear Representative Eric Burleson say what he said today is quite extraordinary. The representative said there is reportedly an object that is not in this country that is so large that it cannot be moved, that they've built an entire building around it. Greer, that's, I think a reference to Dr Stephen Greer or another individual, I think I plead guilty there, has actually mentioned this site, but I'm not going to mention it because it is a classified location.

I'm requesting to get to it. It's going to involve a lot to make that happen, but that may be the final destination. Now, what I can tell you is Representative Eric Berluson does know the location of the object I'm talking about, and for good reasons that people often get frustrated about, I have said many, many times here that we will not be revealing the location of the object, the country in which it is located, because it serves a very, very important national security purpose, and quite frankly, it might put the lives of very good

men and women in danger, the United States men and women in danger, if the location was to be revealed. But it's good to hear from Eric Burleson that he is willing to investigate. Now, I don't take what he's saying as a complete endorsement of the idea that he's accepting that it's a real object. He's used the word reportedly there, but what I do note is he asserts that the location or the fact of the existence of the object is very highly classified and that he's seeking access to it. I take heart from that because it implies to me that he's working on other knowledge, and I've got a pretty good idea of where he would have got that knowledge from. There are people who have come forward independently to the Oversight Committee of the Congress and indeed

to the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate Armed Services Committee with full details on this object. In variations from another clip, Representative Berluson also said there is reportedly an object found in a country that is so large it cannot be moved. They've built around it, it's a location, but there is a reported really large object and I'm requesting to get to those locations. I think he means location. Now he explicitly avoided naming. the specific site. I know Dr. Stephen Greer has named a site in South Korea. I can't comment on that. I'm not playing a guessing game with anybody about the location because I'll be honest, I think it's irresponsible to reveal a location. And as a journalist, I am legally, ethically obliged to ensure

that I don't do anything to compromise the safety of our men and women who are serving their country, and neither would I want to. But it's very, very interesting to hear representation. Representative Berluson making a statement that he is investigating, and I sincerely hope he gets to go and have a look because he's going to have a very interesting surprise. I know. What do you think? What do you think of Ross's response to him about going after this thing? I think it's probably some wise words from Ross.

I think Representative Burleson does need to be careful. We've watched another member of Congress over here in America this week. Post on Twitter, I believe, maybe other places as well. I am not suicidal. I am happily married. I am enjoying my life. In other words, in anticipation of claims of suicide later in the event this individual is punished. Yeah.

Or digging around the Epstein things in a substantive way, sort of the only fellow who's been able to crack some of it. So I have a feeling that's what Ross is worrying about. for Representative Burleson. And I think Representative Burleson should take those words to heart. Yeah. I do think they might be on to the right location, though.

Just before we went on air today, though, love him or hate him, Uri Geller, the remote viewer, said that he was flown, and this is on Twitter as well. You can Google it and pull it up or search it on Twitter. He was flown by the U.S. government to South Korea about this object that was so large that they had to build a building around it. All arrows are pointing to South Korea.

I know. Man, Erie Geller never ceases to amaze me. It's amazing, isn't it? Oh, my gosh. Yeah, South Korea, who would have thought? Hey, I have a cousin who was stationed in South Korea. Now I'm thinking, hmm, Yeah. Maybe it's time to reunite with my good buddy there. I won't give his name.

Yeah, ask some questions in a dark forest where no one can hear you. I mean, hey, he's never told us where he was or what he was doing over there. So it might be time for Ryan to reach out to some some former family members. I do think they're looking in the right direction. Yeah, me too, me too. developing story like you said expectations low so that anything will be a surprise for us exactly exactly um j ellen says time for a mystery's decoded episode in south korea gladly gladly gladly get that going i am literally within like a flight a puddle jumper from south korea right now

so now would be the time maybe i'll go film yeah go the other way I'm going to go the other way. I hear South Korea is beautiful. And Korean food is like my favorite food. Mine food. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.

All right. Well, let's move to kind of our final story of the night before we get to that message from Nick Pope. This is about some whistleblowers coming forward. You brought this story to my attention. Christina Gomez did a wonderful video about this. I highly suggest you guys go over and watch it. But we are going to play two clips. from her episode about these two whistleblowers coming forward who have very interesting comparisons

between their stories that took place in different countries and like you said decades apart John Sear of the British Royal Navy and Richard Barr of the US Air Force he was a security officer they both say that they remained silent for decades out of fear secrecy and uncertainty their stories were combined by Christina Gomez on her UFO news YouTube channel recently So let's watch the first clip From Witness John Sear And then we'll talk a little about that Then we'll move to the next guy

And then I want to get your overall thoughts On these two whistleblowers So let's watch the John Sear portion here You guys can awkwardly watch me look for video They don't make it easy They constantly update the software guys I know Everything moves

And every week we're trying to figure out where this went Where's that? How did this happen? If we could show you how the sausage was made here somewhere in the sky's HQ, guys, you wouldn't believe it. It'd be pretty funny, but. It would. Yeah. I probably do things the most archaic way, but it works for me. All right. Here we go. John Sear, the RAF, the British guy who came forward. Here we go. Describing to the UAP files podcast, the moment his warships radar picked up something strange. So I looked at this screen and there was a white block on the screen, really bright white

block. And he went, I said, what is that? He went, go and have a look. So that's an interesting start because people think they're not real. And there was something solid that the radar was picking up and it was bouncing off it. So that's interesting bit. So basically it looked like a star and then there was a disc in the middle of it. And it was really bright and it was shining light on the sea.

I was just stood there looking at it. Wow. And then all the junior officers running about. And I always remember this. It's the first part of the interesting, really interesting part. This skipper came up and he turned and looked at it and he just went like that. And it was like, oh, the first thing I thought was, oh, you've seen them before. Right?

It was so obvious. At the clock position, off the bow, a disc-shaped object was shining light below the sea. Multiple personnel witnessed it. But what stuck with Sear was the captain's reaction. No surprise, no alarm, just a look that suggests he'd seen this before. Fighter jets were scrambled, and when they closed in, the object shot away at a 45-degree angle, left a slight vapor trail, and then vanished. No sound.

The skipper asked the pilots to confirm what they were. they saw. The lead pilot responded that we can confirm it is an unidentified flying object. But while Sear had been standing on the bridge, something else happened, something he didn't tell anyone for 45 years. He says he felt the crew being scanned, and he compared it to a feeling of being watched in a forest magnified tenfold. He looked at the object and thought, what are you? And shockingly enough, he received an answer. A visible flash appeared directly in front of his eyes, a grey face with a blue tinge of light behind it, three smaller figures visible in the background. Seer described it as being like a video call placed directly into his mind.

No words, not any language, just knowing. And it just said, we are your children, children's children. It confirmed it because I was like, children, children, children's children. Children's short. Okay. I couldn't. I couldn't. I didn't really get that. I didn't get it for about 10 years. And then it said, we are from the sea and sky. And it didn't say that in English. I had the sea and then I had the sky. So it could have been seeing space, seeing sky. Same sort of thing. He says the information did not stop that night. Over the following 45 years, it continued to surface in what he calls broken dreams. fragments arriving when his conscious mind was very quiet, almost like a meditative state. So why is Sears speaking now after all this time?

That's what we all want to know. Four years ago, he was diagnosed with cancer. He had received what he describes as a vivid dream at age 36, warning him that he would become seriously ill at 56. He took it seriously enough to change his lifestyle in the years leading up to that age. And when the tumor was found, his doctors were surprised. It didn't spread and he didn't need chemotherapy. That experience, Sear says, reinforced everything he had been receiving since that night on

the bridge. And that was just the final push. So I don't want to compromise our security or do anything nor. I just wanted to say what I saw. I've not done it for 45 years, but after cancer, honestly, it changes your whole understanding of everything. Isn't that something? It is mirroring the heart surgeon. Yes, it is.

A moment of contact. Farhina. Right. Wow. It is. And you watch over and over, not just in the UFO. field in any legal matter I've been involved in where someone has the equivalent of a near-death scare, you see often this change in people.

There are physical changes to the behaviors of people who go through these things often. And we've watched him do that. And we watched him probably extend his own life, frankly. Yeah. Right. This comment, Ryan, about we are your children and your children's children from the sea and sky. Isn't that the most fascinating thing? I can't say that I understand exactly what's meant there.

I can see it being a couple of things, you know, children born through abduction or children created through genetic work. I wish we knew more about how he interpreted that. And maybe he'll talk more later, but a fascinating thing and coming out for what seems to me like the right reason. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, facing death can really change a person. You know, when my mother sat me down when I was like 10, she was a diabetic her whole life, type 1. And I think when I was around 9 or 10, she got me down in my bedroom and she just was straight up with me. She was like, I probably will not live for much longer.

She would go on to do dialysis after that. And that was so painful to watch. And to have your mother at that young and age say, like, I'm going to die and probably soon. But I want you to know this. I want you to know that. it's a moment I will never forget. However, my mother was one of few very fortunate people that she received a kidney and pancreas transplant that literally saved her life.

And we got an extra almost 30 years with my mother as of that. But she did base her mortality and it changed her. dramatically. And I'm sure it brings all of you in a way. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, every day was just a blessing with her. And I never forgot that until her inevitable dying day. I got to be by my mother's side and hold her hand and sing with her when she passed away. And it was the most peaceful thing I have ever and probably will ever experience. All this to say, there were things after my mother got her second chance at life that she changed.

Sure. Firmatically in so many different. And we used to crack jokes like, oh, it's that new pancreas. It's that new kidney. Like, it's from God bless the man, Terry Brown, who unfortunately died and his organs were donated. We actually became very close with the family of my mother's donor. it was a beautiful pathartic experience, yeah.

But all this to say, yes, my mother changed in many ways and became much more open to everything in life. And I bring all this up to say, I think you're right. I think, and you've had this experience too. You had a near-death experience.

Like, these things change you. And things that you might think aren't important, then become important. Touching the grass, drinking that coffee. Like, everything tastes differently. The sky looks different. Like, it's a beautiful thing. And for this guy to finally come forward

with this, 45 years later, it's beautiful. On the UFO side of it, I found it fascinating that he said he felt like they were being watched and scanned. And mentally scanned. Yeah. Yeah. Very interesting. Yeah. And he has done what

he needed to do and kept his obligation to his government and his classification issues and yet still found a way to tell a story. Yep. I would suggest watching the full interview on the UAP Files podcast, guys, go search that out and watch it. But let's move to the next witness that Christina covers. This sounds just as interesting. So interesting. Was this on Jesse Michaels, I think? Did it originate there? I don't know. I just know Christina did him to Yeah. I think this was originally on the Jesse Michaels podcast. This is a gentleman named Richard Barr, who had an experience in 1964. 64 was a busy year. It was. Porro LaMadera. This one, and they're just a ton around 64. Boom. Episode idea.

Yeah. Oh, that idea. Yeah. I'll pull some notes. Oh, she's already on it. The brain's whirling. I love it. Okay, cool. So let's move to the next witness. And then at the end of this video, Christina starts to sort of compare the two and what they have in common. And then I want to further expand on that with like the patterns and connections that we found. And then we'll start to wrap things up because we're going on two hours, baby. I knew we could do it. I knew we could do it. A lot of news. Okay. So here is our second witness, quote unquote, whistleblower. Here we go. Vandenberg Air Force Base, Susan. Can you believe it? All right, let's watch.

Let's watch. Busy spot. Of the Atlantic, Jesse Michaels sat down with Richard Barth for American Alchemy, and Barth was assigned to the 4392 Combat Defense Squadron at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, guarding the nuclear missile site. During the Cold War, Vandenberg served as the primary testing ground for American nuclear arsenals. Atlas, Thor, Minutemen, and Titan missiles were all tests launched from that base. And as noted in testimony before the House Oversight Committee,

that base has documented history of UAP activity stretching back decades. On a foggy night in September of 1964, Barth was alone at a Minuteman site in D Sector, roughly 20 miles from the main base. Visibility was about 30 to 40 feet. It was almost 2 a.m. And that is when he saw a figure moving through the fog. At first, he thought it was an officer. The figure was humanoid, about 5 10, wearing what looked like a military-issue trench coat. But as it got closer, Barth said something took hold of his mind. I tried to pull my pistol and my right arm was paralyzed. I couldn't move it. I could move my body, but I couldn't move my alarm, and I became more terrified.

He says he tried to scream, but could barely make a sound. And he backed into the guard shack, pressing himself against a shelf. And then everything went black. When Barth came back to his senses, he was on his knees inside a circular room. The walls appeared to be a single piece of gray metal with no seams, no rivets, and no visible joints. A figure stood to his right and communicated a command, but not with words, just like Sear described in the previous story. It's communicating me. Don't look at me. Don't look over here. Just look through the circle. And, you know, it's weird because it's not words. You know what it wants. It's like he's, it's very definitely a command, but it's not in words. But you know what.

You know, I don't know other people have this psychic thought process or anything like that. But one of the thing that, it was not words. It was just, I knew I was not to look at them. You know, just look at this circle. That is exactly what John Sears said. The craft and the beings inside the craft didn't communicate with words, but the receiver understood the message. On the floor was a transparent circle.

Barth looked through it and recognized the ground below, a nearby missile site, and he could see a truck arriving, a guard checking the driver, all from above. When he raised his eyes, he saw four figures sitting across from him, large heads, proportionate necks, large eyes. He described their proportions as similar to a baby, not the thin neck depictions that are more common. When Barth came to his senses again, he was lying on the floor of the guard shack. The being was, was sitting next to him, cradling his head in its lap, communicating an apology. It told him they needed access to the missile electronics and he was in the way.

But then it communicated something much larger. They're not going to let it, you know, go to nuclear war. They needed to stop these missiles from launching. They were trying to get the data on how to, which was their task then, and that there wasn't going, they weren't going to allow these essence to be launched. They weren't allowed us to go to nuclear war. In essence, that Earth was important to them. Earth is important. Nuclear war will not be permitted. Multiple species exist on Earth, and not all of them are friendly. Now, here is what stands out when you place these two accounts side by side. Both men describe the same method of communication, not spoken

language, a direct transfer of knowledge. Bart says he just knew what it wanted. Sears says, it comes in like knowledge, like you already knew. Both experienced delayed recall. Both kept quiet for decades, and both have chosen this moment to go public. When two people who have never met from different armed forces, different continents, decades apart, described the same form of communication and walk away with messages about humanity's relationship to these beings and to our own weapons, at what point do we stop treating each story as isolated and start looking at the pattern? The pattern. Agreed.

Wow. Strong words from Christina there. Kudos to her for kind of looking at what could be considered two very isolated events of two whistleblowers coming forward. and finding these very interesting connections. I found it fascinating. So go check out the full episode. She goes more in depth over on Christina Gomez's YouTube channel. Check that out, guys.

Subscribe, all that good stuff. And I think on this one it's really important to listen to the section where the being, when he's cradling Mr. Barr is expressing remorse telepathically. I'm sorry. They were trying to get the data from the missile silos that they needed in order to be able to do their task with regard to the missiles to keep us from killing ourselves and ruining our planet and that he was in the way. And I also wondered, that's a very empathetic thing to do, right, for another being to be doing. But I also wondered if the direction to keep looking through the rectangle glass in the bottom and focusing on the base itself, that might have been an active empathy as well.

If they could keep his attention there, maybe he wouldn't be so scared of or upset by whatever they look like or what was going on. So I think there's a softer but important element to his story as well. For sure, especially when you look at things like they said he drew a weapon and he was like paralyzed. Like obviously that was a defense mechanism on their part. They didn't want to get shot or whatever. You do, you get this dichotomy, I think, when it comes to these quote-unquote non-human entities in abduction narratives and stories. You know, you look at like something like fire in the sky, Travis Walton. You and I had the incredible opportunity to interview Travis.

Walton right after the anniversary, 40th anniversary, I believe. Yeah, I think that was. 50th? It was in the 70s, wasn't it? Yeah. 30, 40s, 50, something. 50, something. Yeah. We had the honor of interviewing him about his event that many years later.

And he recalled that he didn't see his abduction as a abduction. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He got hit by this beam. or something, yeah. Killed him, basically. He believed, his friends thought he was dead. He thought he was dead. And they literally brought him on board to revive him and fix him.

The movie. Fix what they had broken. Yeah. Yeah. The movie depicts it completely differently. Right. Horror-esque, very bad abduction experience. But in real life, he says, no, I believe they were, they felt bad about what they did to me and they fixed me.

They were doing kindness, right. Yeah. I see that with these two. gentleman as well. I do too. There was an empathy there. But also this, like, this has to happen. I'm sorry, we have to do this. It's for the greater good. It is. Right. Right. And the messages they both got telepathically, mind you, or in their mind or in their dreams. It was fascinating. Absolutely. And for them to come out in the same week in the same interview, pretty amazing.

Yeah. Amazing. The same week that Obama says aliens are real. The same week that Eric Burleson is marching off theoretically to South Korea. And then here comes Yuri Geller. I mean, my gosh, what a week. What a week. It is going to be a crazy 2026.

I think it is. I think it is. Oh, man. Well, we covered a lot of stuff tonight, Suzanne. Dan. This is a transition. I wish I didn't have to make. This is a hard one. John Sear, the first witness there, said he came forward because of cancer.

Someone in the UFO field who many know, many have, you know, watched him on TV for decades. You've seen him at conferences. You've read his books. Made an announcement this week on his social media. Nick Pope, a former British Ministry of Defense worker who worked at the UFO desk. Let's get him up on screen here. There he is. There he is.

There's Nick Pope. I made this announcement. I'm going to read it in full, his message. I think it's important to get the entire message out. And it's about his health. So let me go ahead and read this message from Nick Pope to the, public. A while ago following some digestive issues, I was diagnosed with esophageal cancer. Unfortunately, it's stage four and it has metastasized to my liver. While I know that it's kindness

and hope that leads people to suggest healers and supposed miracle cures and to say things like fight it and you can't beat it, I'm afraid my diagnosis and my situation leaves me no doubt whatsoever. I can't beat it. What an amazing adventure. I've had, a 21-year career at the U.AK. Ministry of Defense, where I got involved in subjects ranging from financial policy to counterterrorism, from military policing to UAP. And I saved six cows. It's a long story.

The things I've done, the places I've been, the people I've met, and the secrets I've been privy to, I wouldn't have swapped it for the world. And then a second career where my previous government UAP role brought me to the attention of the world's media, leading me to become a regular commentator on TV news shows and documentaries, as well as consulting and acting as a spokesperson on various UFO and alien-themed movies, TV series, and video games. The media called me the real Fox mold. The true highlight, of course, in life with my wonderful, beautiful, and incredibly smart wife, Elizabeth. He is a real-life agent Scully, a scientist, a skeptic, and a redhead. We,

We met randomly in the lobby bar of the Fairmont Hotel in downtown San Jose. She was an anthropology professor at San Jose State University in October of 2010, and we got married three months later. We applied successfully for my green card, and she had me shipped over and imported to the U.S. where a new adventure began. As Elizabeth and I enjoyed wildlife watching at our wonderful home in Tucson, desert hikes, film noir, true crime, country music, Sunday lunches with my in-law. and much more besides.

Recently, we had an amazing one-year adventure in New York City, living five minutes from Times Square, and having a wonderful view of the Empire State Building from our apartment window. We proof-freeed each other's books and articles. I love commas, hyphins, and exclamation points, way more than Elizabeth, and managed to win at least a few of those battles.

And I'm supporting her in her ongoing fight for free speech, academic freedom, and keeping political correctness, superstition in identity politics out of science and academia. The White House Press Secretary tweeted one of her recent newspaper articles, which shows the huge impact she's having. I kept working for as long as I could, right up until last week with my various film and TV interviews,

conference appearances, and live events, including my position as moderator of Ancient Aliens Live, where I think I did 94 shows. Sadly, the time has come where I've had to step away from this. work. A lot of people have followed my work on UAP. I'm loathe to use the word fans because I'm not a celebrity, but I am a public figure. And many people have followed me on my journey as I've sought to keep the UAP subject in the public eye and to frame it as a defense, national security, and safety and flight issue, as well as a fascinating science problem. Some of this work has been

public knowledge, but some such work of necessity has been done behind the scenes. I hope I've helped move the needle forward. But most people, of course, know me through my media interviews and live events. To everyone who's followed me on my journey, thank you. And good luck with your own journeys. I wish you every success and happiness. It has been amazing and I'm grateful for the things I've done, not mournful for the things that I won't now get to do. Per Aspre at Astra, through hardships to the stars. Nick Pope, Tucson, Arizona, February 12th, 2026. Heartbreaking.

Heartbreaking. And you guys know Ryan's on the other side of the planet right now. And so I'm basically the day shift and he's the night shift until he gets back over here close to us. but that happened while Ryan was down to sleep. And I went back and forth and back and forth about whether to send it to him. Of course, I vetted it first to make sure it wasn't just something crazy going on because I just hated Ryan for you to wake up to this first thing. But, you know, I knew we needed to talk about it and that you would want to know.

There's a photo of the two of you that I just loved. Oh, you do have it. Wonderful. Look at this photo, you guys. So, if you're listening on the podcast in the future, come over to YouTube. We got some photos of Nick Pope and then photos of me with Nick Pope. Nick Pope has been, look, I don't agree with some political stuff with Nick Pope, but welcome to the world. I don't agree with a lot of people in politics.

But at the end of the day, like this man has been an integral part of my life. my research for hundreds of thousands of people around the world. He is an icon in the UFO field. You've seen him. You've heard him everywhere that has to do with UFOs. You know? So, I mean, what is there to say? There's a photo of me here with him at AlienCon, Baltimore, where I first met him.

Actually, no, that was not the first time. Excuse me. I met Nick Pope at, gosh, I want to say back in like 2012 or 2013. at the International UFO Congress, where I got to be in this like war room situation with all the speakers of that event. I was just a volunteer back then. I was a nobody. Like I would fly to Arizona and volunteer backstage at the UFO Congress.

I would work the microphones and the sound. And that's how I kind of got my start in the UFO world. And I remember one day like Nick Pope, it was either Nick Pope or Richard Dolan coming up to me. And they're like, you're going to be on that stage something. I can see it. I can see the passion in your eyes. And I did. I eventually spoke at the UFO Congress like eight years later. But I remember being like in that war room with Nick Pope and drinking a beer with him and just like just having such a good time. We talked about everything, not just UFOs. And watch him laugh and tell these stories about the MOD and his life living in America at that point.

It was just so cool. And then here we are. The commas and the punctuation. Exactly. Exactly. I can agree with them on that. Mr. Glangers might understand that a little too well. Yeah, I'm sure.

I'm sure. But he did such a good job of how he handled this, I thought. You know, he did not need us to give false encouragement. He just needed to put it out there and very bravely did it. I think the world of him for it. I do too. I commend him for being so open and honest. And I want to thank him for doing that for, again, people who have followed his work for a very long time. All we can do as UFO researchers is take everything Nick Pope has done and build off his work and continue the UFO conversation, continue to search for the answers that he sought and researched for. all of the decades that he gave to us in this field. So again, you know, I wish him all the best on the challenging times ahead for him on his own terms. On his own terms. So yes, Nick, if you happen

to ever watch this, thank you. Thank you for everything you have done for me, for us, for this topic, and know that we do not take that lightly, and we will move forward and always, always living in the shadow of what you have contributed to this field. So thank you. Absolutely. These beautiful messages that everyone in the chat are putting up here, I hope you'll be able to see as well. Maybe you guys who've made these sweet comments, maybe you would go under this live stream and the YouTube comments, not in the live chat. but in the comments below and try and tag him and repeat your message for him. Maybe he would see them that way for sure.

For sure. Yeah. If you have any memories with Nick or of Nick, put him in the comments. Go over to his Twitter. He did post this entire message we read on his Twitter. And the comments are just incredible. They are. I just didn't want it to be true. I know.

I know. Go over to his Twitter and put your comments there. Let him know. Let him know that you're thinking about him. on this this hard journey ahead for sure. So again, thank you, Nickville. Thank you for everything. And we are wishing you all the best for sure, for sure.

Okay, what a week, what an episode on a lighter note, Suzanne. I do want to tell people what to expect on the podcast this week. We have the incredible Bryce Sable joining us once again. guest, Brent Friedman, both of the upcoming podcast, Sound Light and Frequency, which will be premiering February 19th. If you're listening to this on the podcast, it's already premiered at that point. So go subscribe to Sound Light and Frequency. It's a brand new podcast. These guys wrote and created the television series for NBC called Dark Skies, which was all about UFOs, the UFO cover-up and bringing that forward and

whatnot. And they're back together again, reunited to do a podcast all about Hollywood and UFOs. The relationship between Hollywood, the UFO topic. Examples of when the government may have used Hollywood to get some truths out

about the UFO topic. We have, obviously, the new Steven Spielberg movie coming out, Day of Disclosure in June. So we touch on that in this interview as well. And these guys talk about the crazy story about what happened when they did a little screener of their TV show Dark Skies in Los Angeles. And a mysterious figure showed up to the party uninvited from the Office of Naval Intelligence. Wow.

Crazy story behind that. So they asked the question, were people or are people in Hollywood approached to give disclosure about UFOs? Have things we've seen in these movies? are they true? Will they come true? Are these the messengers to the public? I mean, let's face it. Hollywood is the biggest influencer out there when it comes to the media. So yeah, they ask so many of these questions on their podcast. I asked so many questions of them about their podcast. And you could find that on the main feed of the podcast premiering shortly here if you're watching the live stream and already available if you're listening to this live stream on the podcast and the

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But there is still time. If you guys want to throw in a super sticker, super that, put it in there to help us reach our goal five. I'll do a bonus episode this week for you guys if we reach that. Or you can leave, I didn't know this, but you can leave a post show like tip. It's called the thanks. You should be able to find that right under the video. That's cool. Thanks button and you can donate that way. We will count those as well. So you can do that even after the live stream goes off air here. But yeah, you can get them in right now if you'd like. PayPal, buy me a coffee are always available. Links are in the show notes for those. If you want to help the show out that way. But again, if you can't help us financially, just like, subscribe, do all that stuff.

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It's always a pleasure talking to you. And yeah, thank you to my buddy Darren here in Japan for showing me around. Thank you for everyone for watching, for dealing with me this past month as I travel the world. It will continue, but at least I'll be back in the States. That's right. Yeah, yeah. So good things on the horizon for sure. So thank you guys.

Thank you for joining us today, tonight, this morning, wherever you are. But I'm going to let you go, and I got to go pack for, oh, we hit it. There we go. We did. And we got one more than we needed. There's Pocket Dog as well, and Android paranormal. Thank you guys. Thank you so much.

You are the best. You are the best. All right. I got to go pack. I'm going to Tokyo and then flying back to your side of the world. And then come to a closer time zone. I'm trying. I promise.

I'm trying. I know. I'm in the future right now. You are. Your day. In four days, I'm going to be back in the past from all of you again. Good luck, jet lag. Thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I love you guys. Thank you so much, as usual, for joining us on somewhere in the live stream. And I will leave you with our mantra, as always.

Keep your feet on the ground, but never stop searching somewhere in the skies. Take care. ahead. There's nothing to hide at all. Now receiving frequency. What scares me is getting stuck really late at night in an unfamiliar town at some intersection that has

an inexplicable red light. That shouldn't even be red because there's no one around for miles. It's three in the morning and yet there I am. The engine idling and the seconds are ticking and I'm looking to the left and looking to the right in the shadows. At that moment I'm always

convinced that I've been set up by the forces of darkness. And this is the moment when something is going to come out of the dark at my car. And that thing is going to be, I don't know, let's just say the Wendigo. Sure.