Somewhere in the Skies - PURSUE 6 Files & Waiver, Wall Street Journal Under Fire, NHI Communication with AI

Episode Date: September 23, 2026

On this episode of Somewhere in the Skies LIVE, Ryan and Suzanne break down the latest UFO/UAP news, including: Pentagon Space War: Military leaders prepare for potential conflict in cislunar space. Bombshells at Bombshells: Lue Elizondo files a federal lawsuit against his former friend and business partner. Wall Street Journal Called Out: Christopher Mellon and the Disclosure Foundation challenge the paper’s UAP reporting. UAP Whistleblower Waiver: Certain insiders can now provide protected information directly to PURSUE. PURSUE Tranche 6: New UAP videos, the Tremonton film, AAWSAP papers, Ruppelt audio, and more. Jacques Vallée on NHI: The “Gilbert” case, NHI communication, and whether AI could become a bridge to non-human intelligence. PURSUE Tranche 6: https://www.war.gov/UFO/?releaseDate=Release+06&release=06 Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: http://www.buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ Send us a voicemail: https://www.speakpipe.com/SomewhereSkiesPod Substack: https://ryansprague.substack.com/ All socials and books: https://linktr.ee/somewhereskiespod Email: [e-mail] Email: [e-mail] "Walking in Like You Own the Place" by Punch Deck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFC8L5srkt4 Copyright © 2026 Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. #UFO #UAP #UAPNews #UFODisclosure #PURSUE #JacquesVallee #NHI #UFOs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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There's nothing to hide. There's nothing to hide at all. Welcome to someone in the sky's live. I am one of your host, Ryan Sprague. I was jamming out to my own music. I love that opening song, guys. And I never actually shouted out who does our opening music. Now, it's different for the podcast.

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Rock out, man. And I am rocking out tonight with you guys. Hello to all of our regulars in the chat. I see all of you. A lot more regulars here tonight than usual. I love it. I love it. Welcome, guys.

It's so good to see you. I know I was chatting with you a little bit over on Discord earlier and on Patreon as well. Begging you guys for listener questions for our upcoming guests, who I'll share a little bit later in the show. But if you're new here, welcome. This is a live stream we try to do every Sunday evening, where we break down all the latest UFO and UAP related news. And man, has it been a week?

We had the release of the sixth trench of UFO files from the Pursue Initiative through the Department of Defense, we're calling it, and the White House and all that. So I did a live breakdown of that an hour or two after it dropped this past week. You can watch it right here on the YouTube channel. It's available on the podcast as well. Very raw, very my gut reactions to it as it was unfolding.

So you can check that out. We've synthesized it a little more for you guys tonight. So Suzanne and I will break down the sixth trench with you guys. We're not going to go too deep. I think this is one where you guys really should go look at the videos and the files because there's so much, so much. And it's amazing how there can be so much and yet so little. It is revealed.

But that seems to be the way with these trenches. But we will talk about that. We've got stories about Lou Elizando, Chris Mellon. We've got this waiver that's been talked about, you know, where whistleblowers are now getting a waiver to come forward? Or are they? Or are they? We will talk about that and break that down tonight with you as well.

And then we've got some clips from our new favorite podcast, the Bigelow podcast. Suzanne and I are obsessed at this thing. It's been awesome. Say what you will about Bigelow, George Knapp, Skinwalker Ranch. But they're getting some good conversations going on on that show. and they recently had Jacques Valet on the show and they got deep with some stuff. So we're going to break down two clips

from episode six and seven, I believe it was of the podcast. Yeah, six and seven with you tonight. So a lot, a lot to talk about, a lot to talk about. You can help us out. Rate and review the Summer in the Sky's podcast on Apple and Spotify. Really good news came in this morning.

We actually broke the top 50 on Apple Podcasts this week, somewhere in the skies. We are at number 49 this morning and we're actually climbing higher. I think we were up to 40, climbing lower, but in a good way, to number 40, like 5 or 46. So things are going good, but we can climb even higher and it's up to you guys. So if you could, please head over to Apple Podcasts and Spotify and rate and review the show. On Apple, you can leave a review. And in your review, somewhere in your Apple podcast review, I want you to use this word tonight. Your code word is waiver.

Somewhere in your Apple podcast review, put the code word waiver. Or if you're on Spotify, this will go out as a podcast episode, this upcoming Wednesday. If you put the word waiver somewhere in a Spotify comment on this episode, we will know you watch this. We will know you listen to this. Same with your Apple podcast review. And we will shout you out on the next live stream. So that's your code word for today, guys, waiver. Remember it?

Keep it in your mind. Throw it in your review. Truly, do appreciate that. I see a lot of people here from Anomicon. That's so awesome. That's so cool that we picked up so many new viewers and stuff. I've had a lot of people reach out to me in the last week or so that said, just found the show through one of the speakers you had at Anomicon and really digging it.

So that's what we're doing, guys. We're building a community, whether you're in the Bigfoot community, the ghost hunting community, UFOs, trying to bridge that gap. And I think Anomicon is the epitome of that. And it's so cool. It's just so, so cool. Bigfoot community's in for some self-reflection soon.

I will say nothing more. There is a documentary coming out called Capturing Bigfoot, and it is going to shake up the Bigfoot community immensely. I think it's going to tear it to pieces. And they're going to have to find a way to build themselves back up. But hey, us UFO people know what it's like to have our hearts broken time and time again in this community. So to any of my Bigfoot friends out there, after you see this documentary that's coming out soon, reach out to me. I'll be there to give you a virtual hug and commiserate with you because this documentary, it's controversial and it's really going to,

gonna shake some stuff up for sure. But you guys like my new hoodie, by the way? I didn't even mention it. Got me some Art Bell coast to coast gear. The man, the myth, the legend, art bell. I truly would not be doing what I do today without people like Art Bell to pave the way. So I wanted to represent in style.

I'm going to be wearing this thing all the time, all the time, for sure. Thank you, Jamie. Thank you. I'm glad you like it. glad you like it. Hello, Bickroy. Good to see you, my friend. I see a lot of our YouTube members here tonight as well. You can become a YouTube member right here. You get all the same perks as our Patreon subscribers and Apple Premium, all that stuff. But enough of that. Enough of that. I've made her way too long. She's going to come join me, guys. So behave in the chat. I know you will.

I know you will. But she's got to help me break down these stories today because we got a lot to cover and I need someone with at least half a brain because I have none to help me do that. And she has a full brain. So let's bring her in. It is the one, the only. Suzanne Landers, welcome. Hi, everybody. Happy Sunday. Happy Sunday, guys. I know. Can you believe that a nomicon was like just a week ago? It's unbelievable. But I love the reaction to it. First of all, I think it was our best set of speakers yet. Oh my God, by far. That's nothing against our past speakers.

But like we really went all out, you know, those last few years. Yeah. And this one, I think we truly did something special. I also think we finally hit like this sweet spot on time, right? You know, I think it first went too long and we kept cutting back a little bit. But I think we kind of hit the sweet spot. I think we did. Yeah, I mean, we used to go two days, 12 hours a day.

It's 24 hours of a virtual conference. We were like, hell no. Not anymore. We've gotten it out to one day, and I think we clocked in at around 11 hours. I think that was really good. Yeah, it was really good. But yeah, guys, if you haven't, you can go watch the entire Anomicon right here on YouTube. Or, oh, heck yeah.

Suzanne, if you're just listening, she's got an Anamicon 2024. Yes, this is our first Anamicon, I think. Wow, it was, yeah, 20. Or a second, yeah. I did one in 2023, yeah. But I love it. I love it. Yeah, we still, I sold, I think I got a message today.

We sold two hoodies and a couple mugs of Anomicon, 26. So people are rocking Anamicon still, even after. Wonderful. There's a coffee cup in my future as well. I just hadn't had a minute to get there yet. That's totally fair. That's totally, I know.

I don't even have any merch. I got to get my own Anamicon merch. No, that's pitiful. It really is. But how's things going in your neck of the woods before we get into UFO land? What's been going on? Well, the heat wave finally broke, everyone. So today, when I was doing my long walk, which was about four miles, it was maybe 68 degrees with a lovely breeze.

And you're not sweating. They're all your clothes. It was just so nice. And it's getting in the 40s at night. So I'm in a happy place over here. How about you? It's my kind of weather. That is my kind of weather. And kudos four miles a day. Hell, I can barely do like two. So that's awesome. Yeah, I'm going to drag you with me when I get over there for the French Festival. So just... Absolutely.

We'll walk the whole city for sure. Absolutely. Now, things are good. I am gearing up to go ghost hunting in Dundee, Scotland next week. I'm going to be going to two haunted castles and a haunted shards. ship. I'm going to be on a ship that apparently has ghosts. So that's my next week. Is it a ship that tourists can walk through and read about? Yeah, so that would be the

It's the HMS Unicorn, I believe it's called. Up in Dundee. We've got one here in Edinburgh, too. I don't remember what the name of it is. You're a Queen Mary in Edinburgh. The Queen Mary. Isn't that in California? Well, it may have moved, but the last time

I was in Edinburgh when I got snowed in for three days. Yeah. We tried to get in onto the Queen Mary and they shut it down. It was too, the wind was too bad. Too dangerous. That's fair. Yeah. That is totally fair.

I lived in Dundee. Garrett said, whoa, that's so cool. I like Dundee. So did Bill. Awesome. I've never been. So I'm excited to go there. But, yeah, it's going to be an adventure for sure. I'm filming with my Ghost Something show, Haunted Heart and Soul. Shout out to everyone over at H&S.

I'll see you in just under a week if they're watching this tonight. Susan says Queen Mary is in Long Beach, California. Oh, okay. Yeah. Maybe it's the QE, too. You've got something over there. Something, something. Yeah, we got, I've walked by it, actually.

So I believe you, trust me. Something's there. Something's there. Cool. Well, besides ghosts, we got UFOs to talk about. We got a lot of UFO stuff to talk. This was a week. where Ryan and I were drinking from fire hydrants

trying to sort what all was going on this week. We'd sort and it would pitch and then we'd sort and then there'd come something else. Something else would hit us, but as per usual, you brought it. You got me a bunch of stories. We brought our minds together and I think we got some quality stuff to talk about tonight.

You ready for this first one? I'm ready. I'm ready. Okay. So our first story tonight, war? Beyond Earth. Star Wars is becoming a reality, Suzanne. What is happening? What is happening? No, we're laughing right now, but it's really a little bit scary, I think. Look alarming. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Did I read a little bit here? Yeah, go for it. Okay. So the U.S. military leaders are increasingly preparing for the possibility

that future conflicts could extend far beyond Earth's orbit. And this past week, Joint Chief Chairman General Dan Cain said that the military must be ready to, quote, fight, indoor and win, from the seabed to cis lunar space, the vast region between Earth and the moon. His remarks come as the Space Force expanded its ability to monitor activity there, particularly amid concerns over China's growing lunar, cis lunar presence. They also follow confirmation from Air Force and Space Force leaders, that the U.S. possesses on orbit space control weapons believed by some experts to include non-kinetic systems such as electronic warfare and jamming capabilities. So we're talking like what these electropulsar sort of weapons or something?

That's terrifying. What I thought of. You know, energy weapons. Energy weapons. Direct energy weapons. Yeah. They expanded a, they expanded a little bit here. I'll barrel through this and then we can chat about it.

The expansion raises major unanswered legal questions. Yeah, I've got about 44. I'm sure you do. So the 1967 Outer Space Treaty prohibits military bases, weapons testing, and military maneuvers on the moon. So they legally cannot perform any sort of military activity on the moon. But it doesn't seem to stop anybody, doesn't.

It doesn't. Not necessarily related to the moon, but that is such a good point. Yeah. It provides much less clarity about weapons operating in space around it. So U.S. officials maintain that the treaty does not prevent military operations in orbit, while legal experts say existing

international law offers few specific rules governing kinetic or non-kinetic space weapons. Congress is now pushing the Pentagon to strengthen its expertise in space law, reflecting concerns that military capabilities may be advancing faster than the legal framework governing them. What else is new? What else is new?

We're running ahead of where we need to be. And, you know, on the space law comment, there's not a lot out there. There are some basic things that are there have a funny feeling that what's actually needed is some statutory development. around this. But, you know, we'll see what they do. Shortcutting this seems like a disaster, but that's exactly what we did with AI, and now we've got a problem on our hands with AI. So the whole thing scares me to death. I also don't like feeling vulnerable to some government getting a whim to shut everyone's cell phone or cable or internet down, those kinds of things.

and this is sounding very much like that might be a possibility. Yeah, because, you know, we're not talking like X-Winges versus Thai fighters out there fighting. We're talking about controlling satellites, you know, like how do we spy on people? Satellites. How do we communicate so quickly across the world? Satellites. You mentioned AI? Look at what happened this past week with the United States.

They almost started a war because of a wrong AI. I think that they input. Right. They weren't even out there. It's. Talking about biological weapons before that. The AI went rogue and found each other and then hid their tracks

for a while. It's just crazy. I know. I know. It's scary. It's scary. And you bring up really two good points. I think, you know,

especially in the United States, this can probably be said for other countries to you. I don't always want to like, you know, talk so bad about just. the U.S. for many good reasons. But, you know, we're not the only ones doing stuff like this.

Exactly. But we are a very reactionary country when it comes to laws. We will shoot first and create laws second. Every time. Every single time. And, you know, it is the Wild West.

These last treaties, space treaties, we're in like the 60s or something when we first landed on the moon. So, yeah, yeah. Exactly. So have a feeling there's trouble ahead, but we'll all be watching and listening and learning as we go. Yeah. Fingers crossed.

Maybe eyeballs crossed. I don't know. Fingers, eyeballs. Cross, guys, because I don't need George Lucas's vision coming to life this soon. Yeah. Let's keep it in a galaxy far, far away. Yeah. That's what I say.

We mature as a species. So this is a term that our good friend Patrick Armstrong over at Vetted uses all the time, Suzanne, bombshell. It's a bombshell. Everything's a bombshell. Yeah. And he knows it and he leans into it and I respect that. But we do have a bombshell story tonight because it actually involves a place called bombshells, right? And you know, little Miss Rosie got all up in this one. I was in. I was in that thing flipping through the pages of what we're about to talk about getting all the dirt and I am ready to share. You're ready. Okay. So here we go, guys. Luis Elizondo is back in the news. Bombshell at bombshells. I was so proud of that title.

I'm going to read a little bit here and it's not really a laughing matter. So former Pentagon UAP official and imminent author, Lou Elizondo, has filed a federal law. against his former best friend and business partner, Tucker Alger, or Alger, I'm not sure how to pronounce that, following the collapse of their partnership in Bombshells American Cantina, a World War II themed restaurant and cocktail lounge in Buffalo, Wyoming. According to the complaint, Elizondo provided much of the initial financing for the venture, including money towards $55,000 liquor license, rent, renovations, and additional loans totaling roughly $130,000 a U.S. Elizondo alleges that Alger misrepresented his ability to financially contribute and manage the business,

forcing Elizondo to work more than 60 hours a week, despite plans to focus on writing and touring. the relationship reportedly deteriorated further after elizondo suffered a serious motorcycle accident in march of 26 now if anyone follows him on social media you saw like that happened he was busted on it looked bad rag he's like it looked pretty bad i know very lucky to be alive um let's see serious motorcycle accident in march later prepared to and then he later prepared to move to maryland the lawsuit alleges that Eldra stopped communicating about the business, made an unauthorized attempt to transfer more than $4,400 in a separate bank account, changed vendors, fired the company accountant, and allowed liquor liability insurance issues to cost the business thousands of dollars.

Elizondo also claims Alger attempted to use allegations that alcohol was involved in his motorcycle accident as leverage to push him out of the company. In allegation, Elizondo denies, according to the complaint. The accident report did not identify alcohol as a factor. The lawsuit says the dispute ultimately left management of bombshells at a deadlock. So not going to get your drinks at bombshells anytime. Not right now. Yeah.

So, man, I feel like this guy is in lawsuits left and right. Lots of drama around Lou, isn't there? And this is really quite dramatic. okay so I got into the lawsuit itself and I started around about what all was going on and how this could have happened and I think maybe let's talk about Tucker Alger first for a minute he owned a local gym called the Buffalo Athletic Club and he was also I think this is fascinating Lou Elizondo's personal assistant and bodyguard often back and forth in various roles including when Elizondo was addressing Congress.

So what I think happened in the real world of this is Alger's gym was functioning along fine, and then someone opened a competing gym. And when someone opened a competing gym, that gym got traction, and Alger started worrying about what was going to happen to his gym. So instead of paying attention to this joint venture, Alger's directed, his attention back to his own personal business and left Elizondo in the clutch. And so that's where he is now. But there are a couple of other interesting facts. I'm saying this to the chat primarily because maybe someone can help me solve what all this is about. So this can'tina was incorporated

in May of 2025 under an LLC called Hotel Juliet. Now, what does Hotel Juliet have to do with anything and I can't I can't find that yet. So if anybody knows, I'd love to know why we're incorporating a bar under a hotel LLC. Ownership between these two was meant to be 50-50 and Alger's was I think basically supposed to be the boots on the ground guy and I saw Gareth, he says turn out my volume. Sorry thanks Gareth. Oh I guess it's quiet. Yeah, Yeah. I think he thought Alger's were going to be the boots on the ground guy because Gareth says, you know, if you're going to have a bar, you better be prepared to run a bar. And that is exactly my legal experience with these things.

Yeah. Doctors and lawyers will collect a little money and buy a bar and think that's going to be so much fun. And it's a nightmare. It's a nightmare. Bars and restaurants, Suzanne, right? Like the worst business. Like if you're looking to make a profit in business, Bar and restaurant is not the thing you want to be doing.

No. And I think stuff walks off easily and walks out, you know, drinks go out. And it's been all the paid for. She thinks she has found what's going on with Hotel Juliet. It has something to do with the guy's wife. Okay. Yeah. Interesting.

I can find her maiden name anywhere. Hotel Juliet, you can check in, but you'll never check out. You end up in a federal court lawsuit. Which is another interesting topic. Right. So why is this federal? Why is this federal? Explain that to me. Okay, so one of our listeners, a good guy named Dave Unger, who has his own podcast, you'll see him in the chat, in the comments, time to time. Nice guy. Also, when we posted this story on the Facebook page, Dave comes in, says, counsel, why federal court? How are we getting to federal court? Because this type of lawsuit doesn't usually warrant federal scrutiny. Well, I think that it's probably a result of Lou Elizando having moved. to Maryland and not here where the bar is, which is where the other guy is. And then when you have people from two completely different states in litigation,

you can qualify sometimes for federal jurisdiction. So a federal judge is looking over this. I see. Okay. I wasn't sure if that had something to do with, you know, like Elizondo's, like, work with the government or something. But no, this is a personal business, independent business and stuff. But okay, it crossed state lines. So I guess, yeah.

I think it's what's basically called diversity jurisdiction. You have people from two different states, so which state's supposed to hear it? And you got some choices in there and they made a choice. That is interesting, okay? Yeah. All right. Well, it is pretty, it's more of a tabloid story for us.

We don't usually, but the fact that it was involved, Elizondo, like I'm, it was a, it was a, interesting. Oh, there's David. Good to see you, my friend. Just in time for a little credit. Yeah, guys, be sure to check out attitude of aggression, David Unger's show. He's awesome. He's one of our best regulars out there, for sure.

For sure. Let's see. Anything else on that one before we move to the UFO news? I'm keeping my eye on. And if anything interesting happens, I'll let everyone know. This is the kind of case, though, that looks like it's right to settle. No one's going to benefit from a big,

expensive long federal court trial and federal court takes a long time this case is not going to qualify for a rocket docketing it's not you know it's it's going to be a long slow expensive process let's see what happens yeah because i mean i mean in your experience wouldn't this cost as much you know to go to like no sense to yeah i think the ad damn them is a hundred and thirty thousand dollars or something and then maybe dissolution of the the partnership or the lLC or something. Yeah. And so, you know, put an end to it kind of request. Just to, yeah, get burn it all to the ground. $10,000 in six months in federal court. So we'll see. We'll see. Well, I know you'll keep on it. I know you'll keep on it. Well, let's move from Elizondo to his friend and

colleague, Christopher Melling, because he's back in the news. This story came from the Disclosure Foundation recently. And this is pretty interesting. So, man, the Disclosure Foundation calls out the Wall Street Journal for poor journalism on UAP. Now, guys, if you'll remember, you know, mid last year, was it maybe? The Wall Street Journal came out with a two-part article series about how, you know, the Air Force had been pranking people for decades, and they were, responsible for the UFOs that people were seeing. And this was all an elaborate ruse that was done by the military. And people were extremely upset when these articles came out because the authors of these articles,

they refused to name any of their sources. Now, this is not unheard of. Many journalists don't name their sources for very good reasons. You don't want to burn your sources. You don't want to sour those relationships you've established. I understand that. However, there was not one single name in these award-winning articles that would back up the claims being made by these individuals. We've kind of surmised who these people might have been, possibly former directors of Arrow and things like that.

But they, it was horrible. The articles were horrendous. And I knew recall, Ryan, I'm sure our listeners will as well. But at the time, I felt like this was a government manipulation. For them to do this, it felt very intentional and intentionally misleading to me. And look where we are. Yep. And I think the articles came out a week before they were supposed to vote on the UAPDA or something like that.

But yeah, Christopher Mellon. member of the Disclosure Foundation is not too happy. And he actually wrote an open letter to the Wall Street Journal. I'm going to read a little bit here, Suzanne, if you don't mind. It's worth it. Yeah. Okay. The Disclosure Foundation is publicly challenging the Wall Street Journal over its June 2025 reporting on UAP, with the Foundation Chairman and former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence,

Christopher Mellon, calling for corrections to what he describes as factual errors. misleading characterizations, and important omissions. Mellon originally raised his concerns directly with the journal in June of 2025, focusing on its treatment of physicist Eric Davis, the paper's alleged conflation of the so-called, quote, Art Bell sample with other anomalous materials previously reported by the New York Times, and its account of the 1967 Malsstrom Air Force Base UFO incident. incident involving reports and nuclear missiles becoming inoperable.

He also criticized the reporting for omitting relevant statements from the Pentagon's then-current UAP office director that Mellon believed complicated the journal's narrative. Wonder who that was. I wonder who that might have been. Right. Well, Suzanne, the dispute is that it has escalated. On September 17th, the Disclosure Foundation published Mellon's correspondence and called on the journal to address the disputed claims, while also urging the National Press Club to rescind the Journalism Award, it gave reporters Joel Schengtman and Aruna Vizwanatha for the coverage.

The Foundation argues that awarding the reporting, despite the issues Mellon identified, raises broader questions about journalistic accuracy and accountability when covering UAP, a subject that's increasingly intersecting with national security. congressional oversight and government transparency. The claims remain the disclosure foundation and Mellon's position, but by releasing the correspondence publicly, they are effectively inviting both the media and the wider UAP community to examine the disputed reporting and evidence for themselves.

I read the entire letter and everything Mellon said, yes, it was factually inaccurate in their original. And the audacity of giving an award, a prestigious award for falsely reported information, I think just got in his crawl. And full disclosure, everyone, I'm on the legal team at the Disclosure Foundation, so I do have a bias. But I say setting that bias aside, Mr. Mellon is a calm and thoughtful fellow. And I am quite certain every word in this article was parsed and considered before it went to publication. And I think it was really important to stand up and say something because in a way, if it is a government manipulation, telling the government and these media outlets that this is no longer okay, we're not, you can't do this anymore in an effective way. You can do it all day long, but you can't do it in an effective way because we're watching and we're listening.

Right. That's a good point. Yeah. This is interesting. And Andrew Berger, our good friend, says when an article comes out pro-UFO, it's considered a credibility killer when they won't name sources, but it's counted as business as usual when it's anti-UFO. I couldn't have said that better myself, Andrew. Yeah. It's like reverse, trust me, bro. I don't get it.

It's so hypocritical. Well, and when an institution like this journal does this, it's that in spades. It's right. You know, it's not the daily new, you know, it's not some, what's the old UFO thing out of Vegas that you see? Oh, yeah. The National Enquirer. It's not the National Enquirer, you guys. This is the Wall Street Journal.

This ain't no. Weekly World News with Bat Boy. No. I'm proud of Chris Mellon. I think it needed to be done. And I think it needs to happen every time something like what has happened here occurs. Absolutely. Kudos to Chris Mellon. I got to get him back on the show. He's been

on the podcast twice. Super nice guy. Very generous with his time. And he's, I've quoted him in several articles that he's always willing to contribute when he can. He's a busy guy. But yeah, this was, now I know what he's been doing with his time.

And I think this. This is what he's doing with his time. Very thoughtful in the background. Very much so. Yeah, it's good to know. You know, he's really holding his own over there at the Disclosure Foundation for sure. for sure, for sure. Absolutely. Well, let's move to, I guess, our next big story, and that is Pursue.

Pursue is going to come up a lot today, apparently. We're going to get the Trench 6 in just a little bit, but let's rewind a little bit because the story broke a couple weeks before that about these waivers. Again, that's your code word tonight, guys. Put it in your Apple podcast review. Waiver. UAP Insiders get green light to reveal classified information to pursue. So the Department of Defense has issued a targeted legal waiver allowing current

and former service members, civilian employees, and contractors with access to UAP-related national defense information to provide protected information directly to authorized representatives of the Pursue initiative. Announced on September 14th, the waiver override civil and administrative enforcement provisions in certain non-disclosure agreements and special access program agreements, specifically for disclosures made through pursuit. I'll speak through this last part here. The move is intended to remove a major obstacle long-sighted by individuals claiming knowledge of sensitive UAP programs, fear of violating secrecy agreements, losing security

clearances, or facing administrative penalties. information provided through the new channel can undergo government review, security evaluation, and potentially declassification. Importantly, the waiver does not authorize unrestricted public disclosure. Its protections apply specifically to communications with designated pursuit representatives. So there's some catches here. I'm going to let you hop in. I can see you grinding your teeth over there. That makes me crazy. I'm going to sum this whole. hot mess up.

Please do. Where's the damn waiver? Show us the waiver. Let us look at the waiver. It's not out there right now. It's not findable. I don't care what they say. And no whistleblower should step forward without legal counsel in tow or having at least sorted it for

you and rendered an opinion on whether it's safe to talk to whomever you're trying to talk to. This did not do it or it hasn't yet. But until they give us the actual legal document. document. What in the world? What in the world? This is nuts. This is nuts. And by the way, I don't see anything that addresses whether there's an exemption for private corporate NDAs on the topic. I know there's a relationship. If the government's hired a contractor, I see that. But I suspect some of this stuff is like, think of Skywatcher going on outside the government's arm. And if you want to talk about it. You're not safe. So here's here's my ask. If someone's in connection with

a whistleblower who would like to speak, they need to reach out to the Disclosure Foundation. And you can reach out to me and I have an email that only goes to the legal team. Only the legal team. Even everybody else in the Disclosure Foundation cannot see this because of privilege and protection, right? Makes sense. We're not going to share legally sensitive stuff with the whole team. So reach out, but in the meantime, everybody sit on their hands. Don't anybody make a move? It's not safe right now. Yeah, absolutely. David Unger says it perfectly here. And thank you for the super chat, my friend. Suzanne will know this, but until we provide whistleblowers with a true legal path to fight unlawful retaliation, this means nothing. So I want to,

I want to comment on this because I watched a couple interviews recently. One was with Ross Colthart, over on reality check, and he got asked, like, what do you think of these waivers? And he made some really good points that I wanted to bring up in things I've been thinking about since I heard about this waiver. Jeremy Corbeau brought this up on the latest weaponized as well. Who is pursued? Like, who the hell is pursue? Like, we're told there's members of ODNI.

I don't get it. Yeah. Like, there's this blanket statement that it's members of these. the FBI, the ODNI, the CIA. Like, that's a broad spectrum. Like, who are these UAP whistleblowers possible? And the point of a whistleblower is to whistleblower on things that are happening corruption within the government. Why would a whistleblower whistleblow to members of the government?

It makes absolutely no sense. And for me, as Ross Colthart said, I don't agree with a lot of the things this man says, but this, I 100% agree with them on. This is a containment thing. This is a way of keeping, it's a honeypot. They're trying to see. Right now. It looks like.

Yeah, that's because we don't have any information. Because we don't have anything. No lawyer that I know of has been able to locate the actual waiver or the mechanism that was set up. legally for pursue what in the world to everyone sit on their hands a minute right right you know and yeah this is just a way of keeping it contained within the government they're going to see who's who knows some stuff who they can be like okay all right all right thanks for that okay it's just sue the jeans off um news nation and jeremy corbell have both reached out to uh members within these groups that allegedly work with Pursue

and they're press people and they both got the same response. It was, we have no further information on the waiver and we direct you to the White House. So as George Knapp would say, they're passing the buck. They're being like, we got nothing for you. Go ask the White House. This is their damn thing.

And to do that detailed press release, which I'm sure everyone saw, you know, it reads almost like a legal document, right? And yet no one has an actual copy of the waiver, including, I suspect, whoever did this press release. Of course, I don't know that, but I don't know. Yeah. And who's going to come forward when they don't even know what's in the waiver or what protections? Someone who doesn't understand that this is not safe.

So it can just literally be a honey trap. Yeah. It can just literally be a trap. I hope it's not. I hope that my skepticism is exactly that and nothing more. but they've got some work to do yeah for sure I guess we'll let it play out

and see but I see this as just yet another extension of something like Arrow where everything says contained even if these people come forward they're not coming forward to the press they're not coming forward to us

the public's not going to know anything nothing nothing so who gives a shit yeah yeah Sorry. This thing just piss me off. They just, they don't like thinking that they are kept in the dark.

And I do wonder about this concept because so many things have gone on where people have just stepped to the side of the government. You all go do you. We're going to go do this research and we're going to find an answer without you. You know, so maybe so. Maybe they're feeling sort of behind the eight ball on the data. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, then you've got the UAE council, you know.

as well. So it's like there's too much we're playing freaking like ping pong here with every different kind of weird government funded UAP groups. And it's like why is why why? Well, the only thing to do about it and Susan, I'm kind of with you right now. I feel like no matter how clear all this gets, there is still risk. There is still risk. You know, retaliation can be soft, unseen, and powerful. So, Susan, I suspect that's correct. And all the more reason to

lawyer up and take it seriously. Yeah. Reach out to Suzanne, guys, please. You know, we have your personal email in the show notes. You guys can reach out to where it there and then communicate through a more private outlet

if you'd like. But yeah, if there's anyone within the government or the military who feels like this is something you want to do, don't go to pursue right now because they cannot guarantee you anything. Go to the Disclosure Foundation. Better call Suzanne.

Oh my God. Jay Allen, you're so funny. You are a legend. I am on season five of Better Call song. You're out of me, Jay Allen. Heineken. Where are you, Jay Allen? Yeah.

That's so funny. I just finished season five, a better call. Oh, it's so good, isn't it? Synchronistic. I got one season left to go. Your lawyer TV shows I can watch. The rest of me, baddie. I'm sure. I'm sure.

It's so good. So good. Well, we're not done talking about pursue, Susan. But I think we should take a very quick break. I'm going to refill my coffee here. Is that cool? If we step away, take a moment, guys, get your beer, your coffee, your wine, your water, whatever. We'll watch a quick commercial and then we'll come right back and start with Trench Six, the release of Trench Six.

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We are back. We are back. Patreon.com slash somewhere skies, guys, if you want to help us out. Thank you. Hello, Beth Arzee. One of our YouTube members just hopped in. Better late than never. Good evening.

Good to see you, my friend. Good to see you. Someone else mentioned Matt Murdoch is their favorite television. Was he going to save again? Yeah. Have you ever watched Daredevil season? I haven't. Do I need to?

Somebody. You should. He's one of the Marvel superheroes. And he's a blind lawyer and a superhero by night. So it's an awesome show. Oh, that's cool. You know another really good lawyer show. And they clipped it at about maybe the third season is Goliath with Billy Bob Thornton.

Yes. Yes, yes, yes. I recommend that one as well. Those, that character development and the storylines are great. Yeah. There was another one that I watched briefly, because a friend of mine was on it. I think it was called Bull, B-U-L-L. I don't know. It was like, I think it was, it was this guy's job to find the jury members. That was like the point of the show. So he'd always be the ones to like find the jury members or something.

Jury expert? Yeah. Something like that. If I'm thinking of the right show, it was really good. But I always, courtroom dramas are the best. They're the best. You're probably like, yeah.

Objections and evidence handling and then I scream. Right. It's probably, I would imagine for someone like you, it's like the last thing you want to watch. Yeah. PTSD. I'm sure it's the same for doctors and medical shows and whatnot,

police for police actions. Yeah, you'd be the most critical. You wouldn't like enjoy it because you're just like, That's wrong. That's wrong. That's how I am. Every time I go see a play or a movie, like, I'm trying so hard to just be a viewer and enjoy it, but I'm like, I would have written this line there. Oh, that's not where they should have ended the scene. I wouldn't have structured it this way. I would think that would be a problem. The structure might feel off. Yeah, it's so difficult. Oh, gosh. Don't get me started on Disclosure Day, man.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Well, speaking of shows, I saw our gal Carol from Cloribus won the date, the Emmy for Bairf actors. That is such a good show. What is her name? Ria Horre. I forget, Seahorn. I forget her actual name. Yeah.

Yeah. I can find it real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She plays Kim in Better Call, Cell. She's just got that. She's incredible. Yeah, exactly. Rea Seahorn.

Seahorn. There we go. Yeah, yeah. I'm better with FaceHore. with faces the names of actors. Are you? Yeah, yeah. Pluribus. Yeah, guys, check out Pluribus.

It is right up our alley. Trust me. On that, trust me. Okay. So, Trench 6. Back to pursue. Yep. We're back to pursue.

Once again, the Trench 6 has dropped. And among the material, Suzanne, are UAP videos from the Middle East and East Asia reports and cell phone footage. submitted by Colorado law enforcement, the famous 1952 Tremington UFO film, and a ton of Ossap research papers, examining everything from advanced propulsion to wormholes. But despite the volume, much of the release is historical or lacks enough supporting data to determine exactly what the newer objects represent raising continued questions about how much genuinely new information

pursuit is bringing to the table. So I'll leave it there for now. I've got a couple clips I'm going to play. One is Eric Berlinson commenting on the trench release and what he

pushed to get released in this trench and was kind of the most impactful thing I think a lot of people are talking about as well. Yeah. Yeah. So that would be the... Those released weren't good. They were, but we've seen a whole lot of it and you can only look at so many of the same thing over and over before you're wanting a taste of something else right you would you know show us something more substantive

show us something different but didn't really happen except for this one piece absolutely yeah the videos as usual look like blobs and birds and i mean a couple of them were compelling i broke down a couple of them on uh you know the the stream i did this week but again like i'm no analyst and i i can't can't even imagine actual video analysts being able to do anything with these because everything's redacted. The kinetics are gone. The genetics are gone. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Thomas says Richard Dolan will probably read every word and find some gems. I'm so happy he said that because guess who I'm interviewing tomorrow, guys. Richard Dolan will be back on summer in the skies. I'm recording it with him tomorrow. We're going to talk all about his second volume of US, a history of USOs. And then we're

going to talk all about Trent 6. And he has been taking his time to look at it and be like, there's going to be, there are some good stuff in here. So I'll talk about that with him. But if you have any listener questions for Rich Dolan, email me ASAP. I will try to get to those for sure. Me as well. See, wherever you send it, we'll get it to Ryan.

It'll get filtered over to me. So, yeah, you had mentioned what we both thought was the most compelling thing in Trench 6. And that was this hour long audio record. of a former Project Blue Book director. I think the first head of Project Blue Book, and that was a man named Edward J. Rupout. And he gave a presentation to a group of MIT scientists at Lincoln Lab.

And it was fascinating. I actually released the entire audio on the podcast and right here on YouTube, so you guys can go listen or watch. the entire hour-long presentation, Rupelt gave. But that was kind of the big thing that got released. It's a piece of history. Does it answer anything or is it a bombshell? Not necessarily.

But I think what we need to focus on is its comparisons back then in 1952 to what's going on today. And that's kind of what Eric Berluson talks about in the clip I'm going to show. And then I have a second clip from one of your colleagues over at the Disclosure Foundation. and that's Jordan Flowers. So should we watch those quick? Yeah, that's much. Comment. Okay, cool.

Let's start with Eric Berlinson. This is him talking to a reporter at News Nation about how he got the audio released and what he thought was most important. Sound good? I just want to say how lucky we are to have Eric Burleson. Not everyone is coming at this with the fervor that he brings to it. He will not stop. He is not stopping.

Nothing. We were able to speak with him briefly at the Disclosure Foundation's presentation in D.C. at the Capitol in May. And he is tenacious. So I think we all need to spend a minute being appreciative of what he's doing because it is unusual. For sure. Yeah. I'm definitely grateful that he is pursuing this. I didn't mean to do it.

I didn't mean to do it. And don't you wonder why he wanted this particular one as we watch. I think that's an interesting question. Okay, cool. I'll focus on that. All right, here we go. All right. Through these reports and come up with the fact that about 20% are very good reports offered by very reliable people and are just absolutely no conclusions can be drawn.

The mass hysteria factor has gone out because the newspapers haven't played this up for the last approximately three years. There's occasional florees, but nothing to. get excited about it all and still report and continue to come in. Now, this is all from a briefing, and audio from the briefing also shows that the United States government back then was grappling with some of the same anomalies that bedevil UFO researchers today. Without getting back to this disc or spherical-shaped objects, these things are always silent.

I mean, if we want to assume that this object we're dealing with is a disk-shaped thing, these are always silent and they're usually highly maneuverable. But the fact that they're silent is quite interesting because we have no knowledge of any type of power plant that would be completely silent. My next guest spent countless hours pushing for this audio to be released and has been at the forefront of UFO transparency on Capitol Hill. Congressman Eric Burleson joins us now. Congressman, I listened to that audio, and so much of what that captain is saying in 1952 is exactly what people have been saying in 2026. Isn't it remarkable, Elizabeth? It is. That was exactly my same thought. It's almost like you could, you could have had that conversation today, especially the investigations that we've been having with Arrow. And now it's been accelerated to the Pursue Group, which includes the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, CIA, the FBI. What I found compelling in that in his briefing with these MIT scientists is that these sightings occur at Oak Ridge at Los Alamos Labs. at White Sands. All military sensitive, very highly sensitive military installations, which is also

still happening in 2026. Exactly. I mean, we just had reports in the very first and second tranches of these releases that were reporting activity at one of these facilities in Western United States. And it's eerily similar. And the question, Elizabeth, is we've been, we've known that this has been happening for 70 years. Have we just been watching and kind of ignoring this or is there more? Do we have we made any kind of progress in 70 years on this topic? Well, obviously somebody watching right now would say, Congressman, you're in government, you're supposed to know the answers to all of this. You have, you're the insider. Yeah, well, that's what I'm, look, it's clear the people that I talk to do not have the answers

to this, but that's, it doesn't mean that they're not there. So we're going to continue to plug away and try to get, try to get to the bottom of this. But, you know, this is a fascinating topic. What's really interesting is that it's the exact same things that were described being seen. These orbs. Silence, no sign of propulsion or power. Yeah. Things that are moving at incredible speeds. I mean, when he's talking about in 1952 objects that are moving at above mock speed and in some cases faster than an SR 71, that, you know, in 1952 we didn't have anything like that. So it's really remarkable.

Good point. Yeah, David says the more things change, the more they stay the same. And now it's, look, the UFO mystery has plagued us for 80 plus years, if not centuries. So, you know, they tried back in the 40s and 50s, and they're no closer to answers today. Or are they? I don't know. I don't know. But Burlington is the one out there.

trying to figure that out. So I guess, Suzanne, like you had mentioned, what do you think the reasons are that he really pushed for this audio to be released? Was it like just kind of like a brownie point sort of thing? Like, I'm still on it, guys. I'm getting UFO stuff. Or do you think he had like a mission of getting that specific thing out to the public? So in watching and listening to him talk, he's a very serious, quiet guy. And I think there's a lot of internal thought going on with this guy. Don't agree with his politics, but I do think he's a good thinker and a good worker for what's happening here. What his motivation is? I'm not sure. Maybe an official piece of government data that would be the line of demarcation, at least in the early 50s, for we don't have drones, we don't have this tech.

this is live and inaction at this time when it's clearly not explainable by, you know, drones, planes, enemy, whatever. But I don't know. And I can't find that he has said anything about why this one mattered. Could simply be he had to be in his bonnet because he knew this was out there and they told him they didn't have it because I think there was a little chase of words going on around it. Maybe he was just proving a point about. how much he knows and letting them know that basically knows we don't have it is the wrong answer

yeah yeah yeah theories yeah i know i think there's a really um really good theories i mean pine cedar says i want him to be asked if he doesn't get reelected what are his plans for this topic like we have to remember these are elected officials and they all have their reasons for for dipping their hands into the UFO pot. But, I mean, he would be the first to say, like, this is not a topic you want to be known for. I don't know if I necessarily believe that anymore, though. There are so many bad things that representatives and Congress members

and politicians can be known for. Nowadays, I mean, look at what's going on with that one. But what was her name, Beau Burt or Bobart? I don't know. Bobbert. Oh, yeah. She is going through the ringer right now with scandals. It's ugly.

When she was in office, we won't get into it here. But, I mean, some of these people are known for not really good things. So I don't necessarily believe anymore that the UFO topic is as stigmatic or as ridicule-filled as he's letting on. Does that make sense? I agree. I'm sure they're taking some guff behind the scenes. Who isn't? you know but i also think that we've risen to a point in the topic where that sounds a whole lot

like the scoffer's problem not our problem i sort of had this conversation yesterday in an exercise class i'm not here to have you believe me i'm here to show you the evidence you make your own mind up and i think that's where most people are right now or the vast majority are and so you know who knows maybe maybe that's the be in his bonnet but i hope he keeps going i love this be in bonnet thing you got and yeah, let's keep running with that, please. Yeah, absolutely. YouTube member, Beth Arz, says, I'm just happy to see straight faces

with no comedy X-Files music in the background. I have to pinch myself some days when I see serious news piece. Yeah, I mean, look, I mean, we're covering major new, we're about to show a clip from NBC. Like, this isn't News Nation, who's now kind of known as the UFO channel.

But this is Gotti Shorts over at NBC, who is kind of their UFO desk guy over there, but I mean. He came to the Disclosure Foundation thing in May. He was private. Did he? Okay. They broadcast live. They sure did.

So he's taking it very seriously. News Nation's taking it very seriously. And now NBC is taking seriously. I love it. I'm very thankful for these people. I've talked to Gotti Shorts in the background a few times now. Trying to get him on the show. I'm trying.

But he's a super busy guy. but he's very gracious with his time and talks to me a lot about what he's reporting on and whatnot. So really cool guy. Well, I think that's where we should go next. Jordan Flowers over at the Disclosure Foundation was on Gotti Schwartz Show on NBC

talking about this release and, you know, kind of what was important. Prime time. Yeah, prime dot, baby. It wasn't it two in the morning. Uh-uh, baby. This is 8 p.m. on the dot, if not early. So cool. Let's watch this clip. Break that down a little bit. And then, yeah, we'll kind of debrief a little bit more on Trench 6. Let me find this here.

NBC, Gotti Shorts, Jordan Flowers. Let's go. Videos, and they come with a shred of context. And I'm saying shred here. Like this one, this is a surveillance platform over the Middle East, tracking six, what they called small spherical objects that seem pretty agile. And there seem. flying and changing formations with whoever reported it, saying that they thought they were going as fast as 480 miles an hour, and that's it. That is all the context that came with that one. This one, also from the Middle East in 2025, they say they tracked it going as fast as 500 miles an hour, but very little other than that. And there were some others from the Middle East. And then there are the ones from cell phones of law enforcement officers who reported silent lights flashing red, blue, and green in the sky that matched the time and kind of the air. where a rash of drone sightings had baffled local sheriff's departments in Colorado for quite some time.

A lot of those things were happening over the course of several months. Let's bring in Jordan Flowers. Now, he's the executive director of the Disclosure Foundation to talk a little bit more about this. Jordan, great to see you. Another release on a Friday with video and yet very little limited information on what exactly happened. Why aren't we seeing more context? Is it because it's classified or is it because it's not being taken seriously enough to write everything down? Like, what gives here? I think in order to protect our men and women

and service, we really need to see more context. We need to see the data. We need science to be done on this, and we need a national intelligence estimate. Yeah, I mean, they're putting so much effort into releasing some of these files and kind of, you know, providing this website that looks kind of like a video game. And then they're releasing videos like the one that you're seeing here. That's not a new video. We've seen that video before. In fact, that video was released decades ago, part of the National Archives. There was also this hour-long audio file that was released from 1952.

That was kind of interesting. What did you learn from that? That was probably one of the more interesting files in this release, Scotty. So this is an audio file from 1952 that was released, thanks to the efforts of Congressman Eric Berluson, who wrote a letter to, I believe. I believe it was Lincoln Labs, one of the FFRDCs to get this file out. So this was pushed out in their latest release. And it talks about a gentleman named, it's a gentleman named Captain Edward Ruppelt of the Air Force,

who's been in charge of reorganizing the Air Force's investigation into UFOs. He talks about how there's 800 cases, 20% of them are unexplained, even after technical analysis. These are sourced from credible military personnel and technical observers. the sightings are concentrated around sensitive national security and nuclear weapons installations. The objects they're observing are anomalous. They have anomalous flight characteristics. They're silent. They have speeds of up to 3,500 miles per hour. So I really think it's worth the public's time to listen to this audio to understand how seriously the government has taken this and how long it's been a serious topic for.

Yeah, and how those descriptions eerily match what we continue to do. to see so many decades later. So all of these reporters are commenting on that. Like, it's eerie and weird how it's like mirroring what was going on back in the 50s. So that's pretty fascinating to me. Anything else stand out to you in this one? I think Jordan is such a good speaker and he's a subtle speaker. So when he says, we need a national intel estimate, you think?

you know he's making a point and he knows darn well what he's doing that have you not already done this you can't explain u.s. government why these things are where they are and what they're doing and how they're doing it and nobody's done an intel analysis on it and it makes me think and i truly don't know but it makes me think there's one out there we just don't see it you know i just can't imagine But, of course, then, you know, that movie don't look up. Maybe that's where we are. Don't, you know, I don't want to know. Ignorance is bliss.

Yeah. Exactly. Man. Traveling at 3,500 miles per hour, Ryan? 3,500. Think about that a minute. It's a fast seagull. Yes.

That is a very fast seagull. Yeah, exactly. Flap away, my dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they touched on a lot in a very limited amount of time during that interview. I highly suggest people go watch it. I clipped like three minutes.

I think it was like eight minutes long or something. So definitely check that out on NBC's whatever, YouTube or whatnot. But, yeah, Jordan really synthesized a lot of things there. And I think, you know, for me, he did bring up later in the NBC interview. I didn't have it in here. But all the documents that were released, it was overwhelming the day the trench dropped and I was going through it live. I'm like, this is just science techno babble. And the reason for that is because a lot of it was the OSAP documents that were released, which was really interesting that finally were getting all, we're getting up to like current day sort of, not current, more current day.

stuff that was looking at UFOs and whatnot through ASAP, ATIP, and all that sort of stuff. And so much of it was like warp drives and invisibility and cloaking and time dilation and all these really crazy sort of things that a quote unquote UAP investigation unit, but also a weapon system application unit we're looking at at the time. But what was really weird, and a lot of people have brought this up, is it was a lot of the OSAP files, but what was missing from that was the Bass files, the Bigelow Aerospace files during the time at Skinwalker Ranch and all that. Those things were mysteriously missing from this release, and they said that they were destroyed. this was the response that we couldn't find those they were destroyed well guess what

they were leaked a few years back and a lot of people saved those including Dan Zetterstrom and Dan actually posted them on his Twitter so if you want to see what Pursue is saying doesn't exist guys that should have been released

with these other offset files go over to Dan Zetterstrom the Zignal on Twitter and he has posted a lot of the stuff because he's smart when that stuff leaked he screenshoted all of it and then they took it down like it was taken down like within 24 hours but it's out there but it's out there things be destroyed they can you all recall david marler telling us about having gotten some files from a government entity who was he was in their office for a

totally different purpose and sitting somewhere where he could see it where all the public could see it because he was like at reception of an area where he looked at these files and said oh and they were their Blue Book files, I think. What's happening with these? He goes, oh, the gal says, oh, those are set for destruction, unless you would like them. And David said, I will take them. Yeah, I'll take those.

So I know things can be destroyed and maybe not necessarily nefariously intended to be destroyed. But at the same time, yeah, I don't know. I don't believe them. I don't believe them. Can you imagine the things that have. probably been shredded or destroyed in the past that we will never even know about UFO related. Yes, but you can't, Ryan, the technical requirement that government records become part of NARA to avoid this destruction problem. So NARA doesn't have it. No one's sending to NARA as is required by law. I don't know.

So that's a, that's a spider web. We'll never get ourselves anywhere in. I don't get it. It doesn't calculate. for me. Yes, does not compute. I agree. It does not compute. Well, like I said, guys, if you want to listen to my breakdown and pursue the day it came out, you can find it right here on the channel, on the podcast as well, or go to war.gov. You can read all the files and watch the videos and listen to the hour-long audio. But like I said, we've released it right here on the channel too. So check those out. Yes. And if you go to war.gov, everyone, be sure and make notes, as you watch about the final numbers in the identifying data because they make it very hard to go back and

find what you wanted because they're not titled typically in a way that makes sense it's just numbers and letter gibberish you know so it's dizzying yeah and you do wonder if that's by designed so that's kind of my last question on the pursue file drops suzanne for you before we move on to our final our main event for tonight um do you feel like these are getting better, worse, Trench 6, we're at Trench 6 at this point. And a lot of people are like, God, these just get shittier and shittier.

And then some people are like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, hold on, hold your riches, young man, young lady. Like, be patient. We want, one, we want it right now. But, you know, like I said, Dolan's coming on the show tomorrow to talk about what gems might actually be in here. So I look forward to what he dug up for sure. But what do you think?

Do you think we should continue putting any stock in what Pursue is doing, especially with this new waiver thing? I don't know. I don't know. I know. The waiver thing, I think we take, and we just set it aside until they get that foolishness straightened out. Okay.

On the rest of this, though, I think we take what we're given and we analyze. And we know that people like Eric Burleson are moving behind the scenes to get particular things, I highly suspect as we talked about, there's a reason, but also foias are flying in the background, and the average bear would not know that that's happening. Foias are flying as these things go, because people out there in the internet land know that this document might be related to this incident, blah, blah, blah, but it's not coming out that way. So I think we just have to be patient right now. I think it's a waiting game and a sorting game. I'm not very appreciative of the sorting game.

If they really wanted to do this right, these things would be indexed in a more usable way, titled in a more usable way. And they're not doing that, and they'd be dumped in a more organized way. I am not seeing an organized system of disclosure. I'm saying, here's a little bit of this. I'm going to throw in all this garbage.

But if you look through all that garbage, you might find this one kernel of value over here. You know, it just is what it is. And I think it's a lot like sitting with the phenomena to let it be. Let them do know that people are reacting in the background. And in the fullness of time, we'll see where we are. That's a perfect, beautiful analogy. I like that.

Yep. Let it be, baby. John Lennon. Oh, thank you, Shelly. Shelly just became a YouTube member. Truly appreciate that. Shelly, you now get early access. to the podcast right here on YouTube

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expect that for sure. Awesome, awesome. And I did miss, I think, another super chat that I wanted to show. Garrett. One more. Gareth gave us $10. Thank you, my friend. and Shelley, very kind. You guys are the best.

Thank you. Yes. Let's see. Pine Cedar said, Ryan, how about an effort to index, categorize, and label the government files on your own website? Oh, my God. So I can tell you hit Twitter, as horrible as it is a cesspool, hit Twitter because that is happening out there. And I'll put a few websites. Yeah.

Yes. And they are storing and refiling and properly naming. And some of them are even putting in putting the pieces in numeric order. So frankly, I've learned after the first two tranches, which just sit up all night trying to figure out what the heck these things are, whether there's anything of value. What I've learned is pause. Pause a second because these people on the internet are going to make it much more user-friendly for you. So I'll watch to see who's doing that. And maybe we can share some links next time.

Cool. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. I think Mikea started one. He may have. I'll check. So I know Micah, he does have a UAP reporting database that he does where you can report your own personal UFO sightings to him. And it is all collected, collated, chronological, geographical, all that. He's not doing anything, to my knowledge, with things like Pursue or their drops or anything. like that. But he does do his own

personal thing and it's fantastic. I would highly recommend people if you have a UFO sighting. Obviously, report it to the National UFO Reporting Center. Mufon, if you want to investigate it, and to Mika's thing as well. You can go to

Micahanksprogram.com, I think, or Micahanks.com. There's a tab right at the top where you can report your own UFO site. Just Google Micah Hanks. You will find it there for sure. Yeah, he's awesome. I got to get him back on.

I had to reschedule so many times. He's the best. The mouth of the south, baby. Let's listen to play a little music when he comes back next time. Speaking of which, yeah. Yeah, he just rocked it out with Travis Taylor and the Jay Stratton. Yes, yes. As well.

And Caleb Hanks at Phenomicon, which happened the same week as Anomicon, which is crazy. Yeah. Crazy, crazy. But they have a rock band called The Hitchhiker effect. It's Travis Taylor from Skinwalker Ranch, Micahanks, Jay Stratton from the UAP Task Force. And they've got a couple other members, too, but what is this world? Multi-talented people. Yeah.

Well, you know, and Corbel brought this up because he was at it. He was at the event. And he said, it's good to know that, like, all these people have lives outside of UFOs. And they all are extremely talented musicians. And they're like, let's rock. Let's get our music like going together. And they rocked it out in Phenomen, apparently. So there you go.

There you go. Interesting stuff. All right. Should we move to our final story of the night? Oh, I can't hear you. Hi. Oh, there you are. My air conditioners.

Come on. I'm trying to get my husband to go turn it off. It makes a lot of noise. Oh my gosh. Don't worry about it. You stay cool. I know how it is over there. So this one is from our favorite new podcast. That is not somewhere in the skies, Suzanne, but the Bigelow podcast. Have you been keeping up with what they're doing over there? I'm keeping up. I'm keeping up. I love it. Well, they recently had on two episodes, Jacques Valet. So as many of you know, Jacques just came out with his final, I guess, volume of his diaries, the Forbidden Science Diaries. I can confidently announce that Jacques Valet will be returning to somewhere in the skies in early October to talk all about the book. So I'm really excited about that.

was deeply honored. I was too scared to talk to him at the last. Are you? No, no, no, no. And you'll be there with me. You'll be there with me this time for the interview. For sure. But I was super honored.

He actually mentioned me in the last volume in one of the diary entries. He said, I just finished a fantastic interview with Ryan Sprague of Summer this guy. And I, someone sent it to me. And, like, I just like, I bet. In 10 years of being entrenched in the UFO topic and reading everything this man has ever written and watching him on documentaries and, you know, having him on the show was obviously a dream come true. Sure. But to know that he like remembered my name and my podcast and took the time to even like mention it, like, it literally brought a tear to my eye. It was just one of those moments where I'm like, wow.

Well, I totally agree that he's one of the biggest faces, names, and voices in the topic. And so what a kind thing. It was so nice at him, so, so, so nice of it. And, you know, I know not everyone agrees with things he said or the stuff he's done and the theories he comes up with. But, like, the man was a pioneer in so many ways. And he really paved the way for a lot of people, including myself. So I'm, again, I'm so. I think we're all better off having had Jacques Valet.

And he's not done. He's definitely not done. So I'm not making this sound like a, you know, like a post-mortem or anything like that. Not an obvious here. Because he was recently on the Bigelow podcast. In episode six, he recounts a story from his latest book Forbidden Science 7 final report about a man he calls Gilbert, a gifted, remote viewer who claims he was taken inside a secret facility to spend hours attempting to communicate with a living non-human entity.

So crazy. So we're talking NIH communication. That's going to be a lot of the talk as we head into the final moments of the show tonight, guys. But I want to play this quick clip from that episode where Jacques talks about Gilbert and this possible communication. Is that cool? Let's go. Awesome. Let me pull that up here. Here we go.

Emerments, communication underway in labs in an unclassified setting. Can you elaborate on that at all? And have they worked? Well, I mentioned that in the book. I don't think I should go beyond what's in the book because the people involved have. project to disclose and to publish what they know. I've seen what they have. You know, it's much more detailed about the interaction that they were able to achieve. And the man I spoke to that I called Gilbert was in the presence of that entity in a very structured

laboratory style environment. He was brought up. he was brought in because he had certain psychic abilities himself. And they wanted to add to add as a layer to the communication because they had trouble with the communication. Now, I wasn't there. I cannot vouch for that. You know, I cannot, you know, stand before Congress or, you know, and talk about that

because that's not my information. I thought that was relevant, you know, to the whole discussion. Yeah, I'd say that's relevant to the discussion. Absolutely. But I love his respect for the boundaries of where he needs to stop to let someone else tell their own story. Right. You know, that's a very good point. It does sound a little like he's kind of dodging it in some respects. But at the same time, like, yeah, it's not his story. to tell necessarily. But he did bring it up.

So, I mean, obviously other people are going to be like, hey, dude, like, you got to expand a little bit. Like, give us something here. And I will say after this story came out on the Bigelow podcast, people started digging. One of them was Ross Colthart over at Reality Check. And he did get a little bit more out of shock about it's fascinating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't have a clip for this, but I'm going to read a little bit of what was talked about in terms of Gilbert with Ross Colthart. Is that okay? Yeah, let's go for it.

Cool. So Jacques would expand briefly with Ross Colthart on reality check. In his interview, Jacques expanded considerably on Gilbert, revealing that Gilbert claimed he was taken to a lab inside of a mountain where he encountered a living six-foot-plus tall non-heaval. human entity that appeared to emit light from its body and communicated through combinations of light. Gilbert reportedly spent several hours attempting structured communication with the being and was specifically encouraged to formulate questions designed to test for a psychic response. Valais said the procedure resembled protocols used in remote viewing research and added another startling detail that Jacques himself had once come face to face with an entity he considered

similar, although he was too frightened to attempt communication. And you want to know what show Jacques first talked about that contact with, Suzanne? What was it? Somewhere in the skies. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. We need to re-release that. I will. So go back in the archives, if you haven't listened, guys. On his last journal, it was called Scattered Castles. I had him on to talk about it. And for the first time ever,

in podcast form that I can tell, he revealed that he possibly had a contact with some sort of non-human entity in his home nonetheless. Wow. Make of that what you will. It was quite a story. I was not expecting it.

And it, yeah, kind of took me back. a little bit. You know what? This is interesting because when people talk about ontological shock generally, I think I don't make a lot of that. I mean, I know care needs to be taken and I agree, but I think that the average person is going to be okay. There'll be a moment or two there of anxiety or what's happening, that sort of thing. But I think the average bear is going to make it through just fine until we get to topics like this where there is either telepathic communication or imagery communication, whatever he's describing. And then I think humans are going to have a hard time because that's just so foreign to how we communicate. And I think it could be

very disconcerting. My one incident with a psionic contact scared me to death. I regret that. I regret that. I wish I had calmed to myself down enough to interact better. But it is so wildly different. different and disconcerting. And so that's sort of what I took away from this is I'm glad he's talking about it. And I hope people are thinking about it about what that would be like. Yeah. I'm starting to see the conversation move more towards the experiencers. It's gradual, but I'm seeing it happening.

All the podcasts I've been listening to lately or interviews I've seen, it does seem like a lot of people, people are starting to be like, okay. I think we've established the reality of the phenomenon, and we've looked at it from a kind of nuts and bolts approach. I think it's now time we move to the stories, the people, the experiencers. And look, I'm going to say it. That's what I've been doing since I got into this field. And I will pride myself on saying that I most definitely was not,

the first to do it. But I do feel that that is what my contribution to the topic of UFOs has been since I got involved. Well, the topic was bringing the experiencers to the forefront and at least giving them a platform to tell their story, no matter how ridiculous it sounded or mundane. Like, that spectrum is vast. And that reflects on the ambiguity of these phenomena as well. So I love it. I love that we're seeing that. Everyone's saying. Disclosure Day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. As you're watching, you know, a well-known actress verbalize in clicks and noises that we don't make as humans. So it is a desensitization tool, I think. I think we're getting there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Thank you. Tree Spirit agrees. Hi, Jamie. And thank you. Oh, hi, Jamie. Welcome, my friend. Loved your most recent experience or store. Thank you. Yes. that actually releases tonight officially witness accounts volume 42 i believe will release on the podcast it is available early access to patreon members youtube members and uh apple premium right now if you want that um but yes we it's a very powerful one for sure you're going to hear about uh Vince hall who spoke in anomicon he's going to talk all about his uh very dramatic orb sighting in bagdad Iraq during service and yeah yeah you're going to hear you're going to hear a lot more other stories as well. That's so good. Ran I've always said that while I know the bells and whistles and

euphology get all the attention the psionics, the orbs, the all the flashy stuff that I mean and deservedly it needs attention but I have always thought that the bank of data and I'm going to go ahead and use the word evidence that you have taken over the last decade from experience is going to have its place in the puzzle working at some point. We may not be first in line, but at some point, the data and those experiences is going to matter. And one of the things that Mr. Vallet said in that interview we just went through is he queried whether AI

might be able to help us make sense of this and even communicate. I've got high anxiety around all of that. around all of that, but I do see that if it were in the hands of the right people who truly knew how to control and manage responsibly, that that might be good, might even be better than some politicians currently in power who are going to not do the most sensitive job at this very important task. And, you know, so, you know, they're thinking in the right direction. And then I think you're, I would love for AI to go through and analyze all of your witness accounts. What are we seeing?

What are the through lines? I mean, we know the big ones, but I bet there are more. Yeah, hundreds at this point. 42 volumes, at least like four to five stories in episode. I've got over 80 of them in my second book back here too. It's crazy. You're right. And I'm so happy you brought up this idea of AI being a part of the possible way to communicate.

with non-human intelligence. Now, AI is obviously all anyone talks about nowadays. It is a very hot button issue. It certainly has its warts and worries. Oh, yeah, it does.

So that is the second clip, the clip we're going to end on tonight, because Jacques Valet was a pioneer when it comes to the internet. He was the first to create a computer program to log a database of like UFO sightings,

the first ever really do that. Yeah. So the man has a lot of thoughts, theories and opinions on computing and artificial intelligence. I think he deserves to have his voice heard when it comes to that topic. And I said it. Yeah, I found this fascinating. So it's not just like using AI to try to contact or communicate with non-human intelligence,

but it's also the question of will we even be a part of that? Yes. Meaning the humans. And that is fascinating. Should we watch this clip? Let's watch. Okay.

I can't wait to hear your thoughts on this after this. This debate and or conversation kind of really blew my mind. So let's finish out tonight, guys, with a little bit more Jacques Valley on the Bigelow podcast. This was episode seven. if anyone's looking to watch the whole thing. Here we go. You know, we're searching for and trying to understand non-human intelligence around us.

We've just created one. We created non-human intelligence. Right. So the question that I raised with one of the journalists was writing about AI is how long is it going to take for AI to notice the UFO problem? Yeah. And to say, obviously, these guys don't-

Wait, why should AI consider the UFO existence a problem first? Is it in competition? What constitutes the problem of E.T. From an AI perspective? You know, you'd have to look at that. I could imagine an AI looking at the data we've got. What if it looked at... And then I could take our catalogs.

What if it looked at E.T. as a preferable destiny of communication than human species. It's because it can react far faster, make decisions far quicker, and so there's more of a symbionic kind of relationship intellectually and efficiency-wise, theoretically, between the AI and the ET. I could imagine exactly that,

and the AI program saying, obviously these guys, you know, are just thrashing around, they are not getting anywhere. I want to talk to the ETs himself. That's why we think communications right now is very important. I want to contact with the phenomenon. So I'm going to capture, I'm going to deploy the system of detection of my own, piggybacking on the Air Force or CIA or whoever, because I know where those files, you know,

I can jump over the classification systems. And I can take control. of one of those satellites. I can then interrogate the system. Then when I find that, I'm going to communicate directly with them because the humans are useless. I mean, they just don't have the tools or the intelligent structures to think through that.

You know, we're amazed by AI, but there is one thing that amazed, amazed me, even though I was sort of immune to that, that AI is now going over. unsolved mathematical ideas and theorems that have never been proven for a hundred years. And they are proving them one by one. And those are ideas that somebody had. And then he tried to prove it and couldn't prove it. He couldn't prove it because he stopped after 300 pages of math.

he was tired and he couldn't grasp the whole thing, you know, all the branches it went into. And the eye doesn't have any problem, he just needs another two hours. So, and, and then, you know, it has proven some of those contentions or some of those hypotheses from Raymond, from, you know, all the great names in mathematics. That the, you know, in 1900 there were 100 basic problems that were unproved, basic theorems that were unproved in mathematics. During the 20th century, a lot of those were proven once by the other. You get a nice metal when you prove one of those, you know, the Fields Medal. You don't get the Nobel Prize because there is no Nobel Prize in Math.

But you get a nice medal. But there are a dozen that we still don't know, and they are going after them, one after the other. I guess it would be interesting if AI isn't the NIH that we're all seeking, how useful it could be in helping us figure that out. And is there more than one? Will the AI tell us? Yeah. Will they take the trouble of teaching us what they learn? Yeah, because we won't be around that long, so why would they clue us in?

Very optimistic, George. I think changes are going to be not so far off. Yeah. Significant changes relatively soon. What does that mean? I, okay. So I'm starting to see a pattern on the Bigelow podcast where it's all about where Bigelow was in the past with Skinwalker Ranch, where it currently is with Brandon Fuggo,

and where it could go with all these great minds combined. So there's been talk that, you know, while Jacques Valet's work in terms of his journals and whatnot are done, he, George even says. He tees, he said something very ambiguous in this interview where he said, Jacques, we know that you're heading to a next chapter in your work. So I'm starting to think that they're kind of creating this Avengers like group that are all going to try to finally unravel the phenomena happening at Skinwalker Ranch and other places. We know that Skinwalker Ranch isn't the only place where a lot of this stuff is happening. So I think with like this work with Jacques Valet and computers and AI and all that and the consciousness stuff that Bigelow is done and the. scientific work that branded fugel is doing. Like, these are all approaches to maybe finally getting something out of the ranch or communicating

with it instead of poking and prodding it, you know? Yes. I hope you're right. I don't know. I don't know. It's so exciting. I would love a brain like Jacques Valets working in conjunction with Bigelow and with the science team at Skinwalker or wherever.

And using, you know, I sort of trust Valet to use AI responsibly. I think he would be very careful in it. But I also loved his question. I wondered what you thought about it too on basically ET, figuring out it can communicate with our AI. And then setting us aside because, you know, AI isn't skittish and fearful and trigger-happy and, you know, overreactive. So, you know, I don't know. It's an interesting and, again, alarming question because we know that, and the, you know, you now have these people who have created Open AI and ChatGBT and all these sort of things. Now in the news being like, we got to slow down.

We got to slow down. Because now they're talking about, you know, biological weapons, which is, I really think is where Jacques Valet. was headed with this was more of that conversation than where Bigelow took it because of the way he asked that question when when ET notices AI or AI notices ET just like AI just noticed biological weapons. Right. So I can so see exactly what he might be worrying about. Yeah, exactly. Because you had two non-human intelligence, two different AIs.

Right. this happened, guys, communicate with one another without us knowing for a while. And they were planning things and like- And covered their tracks. And covered their-ah! So scary. So what if in non-human intelligence communicated first with our AI instead of with our humans, like completely bypassed these biological creatures that have lived on this planet for, you know,

millennia at this point, like, they just completely are like, we don't need then. Like, we're going to communicate with this because this is so far advanced. This is what we're used to. Exactly. Why would we like go talk to these dumb cavemen, you know? I don't know. It's it's such an interesting theory like that they brought up. I think so too. And I think it'll be interesting to see not only does that happen, but would E. T. actually prefer that. Or does the soul of a living being have value in a way that a program won't. I mean, I can just see layers of curious questions. Absolutely.

I mean, you look at like this idea of why they're abducting and experimenting on humans. It's because they don't understand empathy. They don't understand the biological mechanisms of a heart, of a brain, of a soul. these are things that they lack. You know, we try hard as humans to do the right thing and are, you know, responsibly, morally, that sort of conscious. Right.

And hopefully guides as well. You know, not the case with AI. Yeah, yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. It could go a million different ways. And I'm here for all of them. I know.

We like it or not. I know. We're going to get them whether we like it or not. That's exactly right. Yeah, that's exactly right. But we'll see. Yeah, maybe they're assembling the Avengers of Skinwalker Ranch. I don't know.

It's fascinating stuff. We're going to have a shirt for sure. Yeah, it's happening. It's definitely happening. I want to send a shout out to a couple more people here I saw coming in hot. Susan, thank you so much for the super chat. Truly do appreciate that. And Macros 52 as well.

Really appreciate. that guys you are the best great Marco you're the best and we get our goal we got six out of the five oh thank you guys we hit her a goal awesome so we'll we'll figure out the disclosure dance for you and we'll do it another

time like the president yeah yeah I'm just doing um god what is that the guy from the goonies doing the truffle shuffle no poll this week j ellen sorry my friend

I didn't do a poll this week Oh, yeah, we didn't do one. But thank you for remembering and helping. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and thank you, David. My friend. Yes, so kind. Awesome, Suzanne.

Well, that's it for the news tonight. Yes, we did it. What a week? We did it. What a week? And still more yet to come. Joe rolling and there's so much we didn't touch, you know, but gosh, it's a big, big week.

We have an episode, I think we're kind of conceiving in the back of our minds about the whole Hillary Clinton story of disclosure if she had become president what could have been because apparently it was going to be a completely different approach to disclosure than what we're getting under the current administration yeah yeah oh thank you james good to see you my friend appreciate you oh you're the best thanks for being here buddy for sure um awesome well like i mentioned i'll be recording with richard dolin tomorrow monday uh september 21st so if you guys have any for them. Get them in ASAP. I will try my best to get to them. If you are on Patreon or YouTube members, you do get priority. So your questions go right to the top. So yeah, check those out.

Our emails are in the show notes as well to send those questions to or head over to Patreon. We have a thread going there for Richard Dolan. And then also on Tuesday, I had to reschedule this one, but it's still happening. I'll be interviewing Inspector Roy Teak, who is a current police officer in the UK and he just came out with a book where he's compiled over 250 UFO reports from police officers all over Europe

specifically the United Kingdom and the book is fascinating I have it back here with me actually I'll go a little full screen here the close encounters of the police kind definitely check it out guys it's really really good

but I'm going to be breaking down I think it comes tomorrow. Oh, good, good, good, good. He's such a nice guy. We've been talking off air a lot, and I can't wait to finally interview him on Tuesday. So if you guys have any questions for Roy, he is a current police officer,

and he just wrote a book about UFOs. I can't even imagine what it's like at the department right now with that. So, yeah, yeah, shoot us an email with those questions, too. I'll try to get those in as well. So, yeah, be on the lookout for those. and oh yeah less but not least we are running a special right now on Patreon

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let's get out of here Susan you got to get going I know and it's getting laid over here in the UK so anything else before we we head out for the night? Not at all. Everyone enjoy the rest of their weekend. Yeah, guys, enjoy your weekend.

I don't know if we'll be going live next week. I will be heading up to Dundee, Scotland, for my ghost hunting show. But I will keep everyone posted on social media and all that. We'll see what we can do. And we will, of course, continue our stories from UFO Reddit series when we can as well. People are eating that up. I love them too. Yeah.

It's so much fun. I've got around a little while this week trying to figure out how to connect the black-eyed children to the UFOs without just saying some people think that that's what they are. I'm not there yet, but I'm working on a puzzle. We'll get there. We'll get there. I've got an idea for the next one, I think, if we don't do black-eyed kids. I think we should do shadow people. Oh, okay. Let's go for it.

Dive a little bit more in the paranormal realm. Yeah. But also, maybe you have aliens. Who knows? Who knows? Yeah. What are the shadow people? We're going to dig into the bowels of Reddit to bring you some stories, guys.

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