Somewhere in the Skies - STORMING AREA 51: They Can Stop All of You

Episode Date: August 19, 2019

On episode 122 of SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES, we head to Dreamland. Watertown. Groom Lake. Whatever you may call it; we know it best as Area 51. When a Facebook event group was created in jest, it exploded across the social networking highway and became an overnight sensation. “Storm Area 51: They Can't Stop Us All” was created by Matty Roberts, a young man who had no idea what his joke event would soon become. With over 3 million people now interested in going or confirmed their participation, the small town of Rachel Nevada has no idea what the expect come September 20th. And neither do those who actually show up to storm this highly secretive military installation. With a renewed interest in Area 51, thanks in part to both a recent documentary and appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, Bob Lazar is now on the minds of a new generation who may have never heard his story before. A story of working at S-4, a location miles away from Area 51. There, he says he was hired to help reverse-engineer alien technology from captured flying saucers. As perhaps hundreds of thousands of people prepare to make the long trek out to the Nevada desert, we take a look at why Area 51 was created, what was developed there, and what people should expect by storming the gates. Ryan is joined by Shannon LeGro, host of Into the Fray Radio. The two discuss their own personal experiences going to the gates of Area 51. We hear some of the dangerous and terrifying stories of those who actually breached security, and how they lived to tell the tale while others did not. They also discuss the hard truth that may await those who just want to “see them aliens.” Guest Bio: Shannon Legro is the host of Into the Fray Radio. She has been examining the paranormal since she was a teen, having had her own personal experience which started her on this path. And for the past several years, a focus on the phenomena that is Sasquatch. She strives to bring a fresh perspective and an open mind to the most intriguing mysteries in our universe. You can also hear Shannon as a guest-host on Midnight in the Desert, and see her in Small Town Monsters production…On the Trail of Bigfoot (now on Amazon Prime, and through the STM website) and the upcoming, On the Trail of UFOs. To learn more, visit: www.intothefrayradio.com Purchase tickets to Alien Con Dallas and use the promo code: SKIES at checkout for an exclusive discount. CLICK HERE Shop SAUCER BRAND now and use the promo code: SKIES for an exclusive discount: www.TheSaucerBrand.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/somewhereskies To watch ROSWELL: MYSTERIES DECODED for free, CLICK HERE  Website: www.somewhereintheskies.com YouTube Channel: CLICK HERE Official Store: CLICK HERE Order Ryan's Book by CLICKING HERE Twitter: @SomewhereSkies Instagram: Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/somewhere-in-the-skies. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I tried to make it seem as much as a joke as I possibly could, but there's definitely some people that are taking it seriously. Once a god passed 500,000 people that were interested or going, I was just like, the FBI is going to show up to my house. And it got a little spooky from there. This is Somewhere in the Skies with Ryan Sprague. Welcome to Somewhere in the Skies. I'm Ryan Sprague. Area 51. We all know the name. We've all seen the films, read the books, or watched the documentaries. Some of us may even have been to the gates of this highly restricted area.

But the interest in this enigmatic location comes and goes throughout the decades, sometimes fading into obscurity for lengthy periods of time. But guess what? It's back. And it's back in some of the most controversial, exciting, ridiculous, and weirdest of ways. In 2018, a documentary was released by investigative. filmmaker Jeremy Corbell. The film featured a highly contentious person, inextricably connected to Air A-51.

And that was Bob Lazar. Here's what Lizarre claimed back in 1989 in an interview with investigative journalist George Knapp. In 1987, when the Air Force sought to renew its stranglehold on the groom range, news articles once again mentioned the talk about alien spacecraft, and subsequent articles in national magazines quoted, named sources about things of alien origin flying in Nevada. Despite the speculation,

no one who knew Area 51 from the inside ever talked publicly about the saucer stories. Well, there's several, actually nine flying saucers, flying discs that are out there of extraterrestrial origin. Despite numerous inquiries and feelers, Dennis has remained anonymous until now. His real name is Robert Lazare, a young scientist with eclectic interests. Lazar's story is by any standards fantastic. He says he's telling it in order to protect himself. He says he was hired to work at an area called S4, which is a few miles south of Groom Lake. Some 30 years later, the claims of Bob Lazar came and went.

Many believed him, and many certainly did not. But he stuck to his story. And that was made perfectly clear in Jeremy Corbell's film. Bob Lazare, Area 51, and Flying Saucers. of this stuff just sounds crazy to me and I understand I'm biased because I'm behind my eyes and see everything but this is this is crazy shit you think there's something more secret than that that the flying saucers are are cover up for I'm trying to tell you exactly the way things were and what I was exposed to where is it show me the alternate reality that you believe I mean

where are those other facts? To show me what they are, these facts you grabbed together and painted a different story of my life than I did. The story of Bob Lazar was slowly creeping back into the picture. But it was no longer in the fringes of the UFO community or conspiracy theorists. It was the centerpiece of new media

in the form of the Joe Rogan Experience podcast. And I don't know if the craft is made of, you know, an advanced metal or a ceramic. It was cold to the touch. You know, I would lean more towards a metal. You're not allowed to ask questions. No. The only, they work on the buddy system.

So I can only exchange ideas and talk to Barry. Now, this really interferes with science, because science is based on free discussion. And ideally, you get a bunch of guys together, exchange ideas, work on problems, and that's how things move forward. But they're so over-the-top concerned about security. They split everything off. and everybody becomes stagnant. It just destroys any of the progress you can make or at least makes it go so slow.

I think they wind up shooting themselves in the foot. Which is probably why they arrived at this bottleneck that they needed to get this madman with a jet-powered Honda come in and see what he could do. I think that was an act of desperation. I think they wanted someone that stinks out of the box and let's just give this guy a try here because they weren't.

And they might have done this four more. more time since, you know, up to the point in time today, assuming they're still working on this thing. The entire Bob Lazar interview with Joe Rogan has almost 8 million views on YouTube alone, and one of those 8 million listeners became intrigued by the story he was hearing, and he felt compelled to do something, anything. And just like any young person in today's digital age, Maddie Roberts hopped onto Facebook and did something as a joke that would catch fire, go viral, and become all too real. Tonight, the man behind the viral idea to storm Area 51, the secret and heavily guarded military site in the Nevada desert is hoping that no one gets hurt. Now, he says people have written to him on Facebook saying that they are willing to die to get on that base.

He's about two hours north of the valley. 13 investigative reporter Joe Bartels is live tonight. And Joe, the number of people who say they're interested just keeps growing. Dorming Area 51, about 12 miles past this lonely mailbox in the dust in Nevada desert, is now a much bigger deal. It started out just from a peer stroke of imagination. It's just meant to be funny. I want to do something cool out there now that we have a bunch of people, but I don't want anybody to get hurt. Maddie Roberts created the viral event that's taken the Internet by storm.

More than 1.7 million people on Facebook have expressed interest to get into Area 50. one of the most secure and highly protected pieces of property on the planet where lethal force can be used on trespassers. I'm kind of worried about that. I've had a couple people DM the page where they're like, I'm willing to die for the government, let's do this. And I'm just like, oh my God, bud. It's not going to be like a military-based slaughter. It'll actually be something really fun, educational, maybe music and art. That's what I'm working on. Roberts admits he's a little out there, just like his idea. And now his event has captured the imagination and fueled the fascination of one of the most

mysterious places in the universe. And so now we wait. We wait patiently for September 20th and for whatever may come of Storm Area 51. Since the creation of the Storm Area 51 Facebook event, it racked up over 2 million people saying that they were either interested in or planned on going to Storm Area 51. But as of Saturday, August 3rd, Facebook took down the event page

claiming it was against its community standards. But this isn't stopping Maddie Roberts from continuing to pursue this epic viral event, no matter what it may end up being or not being. But until then, let's take a look at what Area 51 actually is, beyond the stories of aliens and UFOs. Where exactly is it and what official purpose does it serve? Area 51 is a highly classified U.S. Air Force military installation, located at Green Lake in southern Nevada, about 120 miles northwest of Las Vegas. It's administered by Edwards Air Force Base in Southern California.

For years, there were speculation about the installation, especially amid growing reports of UFO sediments in the vicinity. The site became known as Area 51, which was its designation. on maps of the Atomic Energy Commission. In 2013, the U.S. government officially acknowledged the existence of Area 51. That year, the National Security Archives at George Washington University obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, a formally classified CIA document that chronicled the history of the U2 spy plane. According to the report in 1955, the remote site,

which included an airfield not used by the military since World War II was selected in order to test the U2 spy plane. Test flights of that plane and subsequent aircraft accounted for many of the UFO sightings in the area. The U2 could reach altitudes much higher than any other planes at the time. After the U2 was put into service in 1956, Area 51 was used to develop other aircraft, including the A12, which is also known as Oxcart, a reconnaissance plane, and even the stealth fighter F-117 Nighthawk. The secrecy, the classification of the program was at the same level as the Manhattan Project. That was how secret it was.

And it was very successful, if you recall, we spent many years working and actually having the airplane in operational readiness, and not many people knew anything about it. So it was highly classified, remotely developed, a lot of time away from family. My wife knew I was flying. I mean, that was my job. But that was all I could tell her.

I couldn't tell her what I was flying, where we were. Yeah, it was pretty strenuous on the family life. The security that was established within the Skunkworks, the security or the classification and one of the reasons for that is it keeps other people out. That was one of the tools to keep other people from becoming involved with the program, from becoming a bureaucracy. So the Skunk Works security was established out of common sense.

For example, if you put a guard out in front of a place, somebody's going to know something's inside. They didn't put any guards out. If you put secret or confidential on a drawing of an environment, airplane, you're going to know it's a secret. Something's going on if somebody gets a hold of it. They didn't stamp any of the things

classified at all. They didn't have any guards outside. They made it as normal as possible so as to not attract attention. They went so far way back when the satellites were first coming out

and they took all the names off of the parking places because they could find out who was working there. The enemy could find out who was working there, the enemy being the Cold War in Russia. Area 51 is restricted to the public and has armed guards patrolling the perimeter constantly.

It's also impossible to enter the airspace above without permission from air traffic control. So, we have a very interesting history when it comes to developing advanced aircraft at Area 51. And then we have the story of Bob Lazar and reverse-engineered alien technology. And as the years have went on, it would seem that Area 51 is taken on a life of its own

in terms of mythology. And no matter what happens on September 20th, as many stormed down the extraterrestrial highway towards the gates, I hope they have a full tank of gas, fully charged phones, and I hope they're ready for endless desert to greet them along the way. So if you're going, please just be careful. Because as you'll hear in the following conversation between Shannon Legrow and I,

having both been to Area 51 in the past month, they do not mess around. And yes, they most certainly can stop us all. Here's our Area 51 conversation with the host of Into the Frey Radio, Shannon Legrow. Oh gosh, we've been talking for about 40 minutes here, everybody, We've hit our limit. Sorry, guys. We've hit our limit. I guess we should...

We should probably start recording at this point, right, Shannon? Yeah, probably. I guess. Well, you guys know her voice. You know who she is. If you don't, then you clearly have not been following my work in the past either. This is one of my favorite people to talk to both about the paranormal UFOs and just life in general. And that is Shannon Legrow.

Shannon, thank you for joining me today and somewhere in the skies. Thank you so much for having me, Ryan. This is going to be a fun one. It already has been, and it's really too bad we don't leave more outtakes than either of our shows because the last 45 minutes we've been chatting have been very colorful and interesting. Skaving. Very, very hot to the touch on some subject. So, no, it's so good to talk to you again, Ryan.

Well, thank you. Well, the real reason I wanted to have you on today, Shannon, is hashtag Storm Area 51. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Wow. So this came out of nowhere. It's funny that it would come out of nowhere because both you and I have a pretty good track record with Area 51 within the last month or so. And then out of the blue, Facebook explodes with this event. Storm Area 51. They can't stop us all. When did you first hear about this thing? And what did you make of it at first? You know, I'm honest to God because the memes have been coming down the pipeline so ferociously. I don't even remember, and it wasn't that long ago because I don't know when this started exactly, but I don't remember the first meme that I saw. But I do remember seeing somebody with a UFO over their head and they had their arms behind them and they were running.

I'm like, what in the, what is that? What is this? And it wasn't actually until a month later that I found out that that is what people. call a Naruto run and that when you cross, I suppose the boundary of 51, if you are so inclined to do so, which you shouldn't be, by the way, that you are supposed to Naruto run in there. I still don't know exactly what happens when you execute such a run. Maybe you run faster or someone can't see you. I don't know.

Apparently you can dodge bullets. Oh, well, there you go. That I didn't know. That completely makes sense. You'll need it because the Camo dudes and every other military police officer on that base. is highly armed to the teeth with great weapons and they will not hesitate to use them

and that is no bullshit right there. You ready? When we were here last time there was about four months ago we put a video up You're gonna get you're just still off Whoa Uh oh we got things happening

I know I am Yeah Put your fucking hands up I'm not gonna tell you again No sir We're just adventure of you. Huh? Spread your feet.

Spread your feet. We're just adventure travelers. We're just, we're just adventure travelers. Is it a venture travelers? Yeah. Turn around. We're down a little alien. They say, come up, Stuart, well, right.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what anybody does. I knew you should. I knew, I know. Listen, we're going to give you guys a chance, okay? Get on your bikes. Get on your bikes.

Get the fuck out of. here, we'll call Lincoln County, and the right to each of $750 ticket. Okay. Sorry for the hassle, guys. We're just, we're just travelers, my bad. Yeah, well, let's get to that. So I know you and I both were at the gates of Area 51 very recently, and this is no joke. We both, on separate occasions, went out to the gate. We also, before we got there, we both went to the Little Alien, which is in Rachel Nevada, which how far would you say that is from kind of where the gate is of Area 51 being our local resident of Nevada? So if you leave the little alien, if you're trying to get to the back gate, I would say it takes maybe half an hour somewhere around there. If you're trying

to get to the main gate, which is the more famous location, it's not, there's no gate out there, at least from what I know right now. We didn't go to that gate, Seth and the crew and I. We went to the back gate. But on that route, I think that's closer to around an hour and a half, maybe more from the little alien. And that is, like I said, the more famous site where it's just basically a couple signs that say, do not cross. And that's where you get a lot of the videos of people, they'll scan the hillside and then you'll see the white vehicles with the camo dudes inside. So I, me and Seth and the guys, we ended up out at the back gate. It was just, it was more conducive to do so at that point. Yeah, that's where I ended up to, and I think for the better,

because, like you said, at this back quote-unquote gate, there's an actual post that will not, it's a barrier. You can't go past it. The one you're talking about, the main gate, as it were, there's nothing to stop you. And that's where we see these viral videos of people who have either purposefully or accidentally crossed Paso signs. I think in the past, if I'm not mistaken, maybe, I don't know if this had happened yet, but when you and I and Sam did our Grum Lake episode, I don't know if this had happened yet, but there was a cabby that was commissioned by a couple of people in Vegas to drive them out to area 51.

Unbeknownst to him, you know, maybe they were chatting and he wasn't paying attention. He did cross that boundary at the main gate. And they were pulled out of the car at gunpoint, very terrifying for all involved, I'm sure. And even though it was an accident, I mean, the guy and the two fares were in a lot of trouble. I mean, when you cross the boundaries, it is more serious, I think, than people could realize. Besides the jail time in little Alamo City jail, the hefty fines, people need to realize, unless maybe you don't like to fly. Maybe you like to drive. Let's hope so.

because you end up on a terrorist watch list and you can never fly again in your whole life. Really? Yeah. I had no idea. You become a terrorist. I mean, that makes sense. Yeah, you're breaching a federally owned military installation. I, I, I, I, I, have that ever dawned on me.

Yeah, you would be put on a no fly list. In fact, there was a guy, this was in the last year, there was a guy that, and we do believe at this point that it was, I say we, like I'm part of the story. I'm just saying we in generalist people believe that it was kind of death by by MP or security guard. But he went through, I believe it was Tonapaw test range, which all of these areas, Tonapaw is not very far north of 51. I like the actual base. People don't realize. Once you, here's another thing, guys. Once you get through the gate, say you do, say you Naruto run through the gate.

You still have to Naruto run about another hour to actually hit the base. It's building. Yeah. Yeah. And I highly doubt there's going to be UFO sitting on the tarmac, by the way, guys. But this guy breached, I believe it was Tonapai. Could be wrong about that. But there was a, it could even be creech. I don't know. There's all kinds of bases out in, out here in Nevada. He got about an hour deep in his vehicle. He was kind of pulling the OJ thing where they're tagging along behind him and he's taking him on a chase. It was more high speed than OJ. A deadly police shooting out of Mercury, Nevada, and police shot and killed a man who entered the federal site where the government used to test nuclear bombs. And here's the video we're getting into our newsroom. The National Nuclear Security Administration says the man failed to stop at the security gate. And then he drove another eight miles, parked, got out of his car, started walking toward security officers. Those officers and Nye County Sheriff's deputies say they told the man to stop and drop what he was holding. He refused.

So they shot him. He died on the scene. It's not clear if he was armed, and the FBI has been notified. The point is they don't mess around at these bases. And if you think that just because 10,000 of you show up, something interesting to me would be, not that I want to see anybody hurt, but they have these forms of crowd control

that it's not all just they're going to take you down with their AR-15s or whatever they have. What if they have some of these infrasound weapons, you know, to make you very, very sick? So, hey, 60,000 show up? Great. You're all going to be puking in the dirt. before you ever see any hangar.

You might cross the boundary, but you're going to be taken down by other means, because I'm pretty sure they have some fantastic non-lethal weaponry behind those gates. Yeah, and I mean, we had an incident that hopefully will make it onto an upcoming television show. It might not. I don't know if they're going to use it or not. We had an incident about, I'd say, we were still about seven,

to 10 miles away from that gate where we have audio proof that we were being monitored at that point, which was really scary for me because I had never been to the gate before. I'd heard all the stories, all the rumors. You know, we went to the little alien before this, and the guy said, oh, yeah, be careful. We asked, when's the last time someone's been shot there? He's like, oh, last week. And we left. We thought he was kidding. He's like, no, I'm serious. And he took out a newspaper and showed us and like, holy shit. Like, this is real. Like, we have to be really careful. Wow. I, I did not realize. Was that the guy that I was just talking about? Yes. It was the gentleman you were talking about. Okay. We covered that story recently. It was a young African American man who,

um, it seemed like he, he may have been a little unstable mentally, clearly. For, you know, he's breaching a gate at Area 51 or Nevada testing site, I should say. And the Lincoln County sheriffs had to take care of it. Oh, so it was the sheriffs. It wasn't the on base? Okay. And wasn't it true that eventually most of those roads from like Creech to Tonapaw and Nevada test range in 51, they kind of all are connected.

So eventually he would have ended up in in 51 if that was his point. Who knows? Oh, absolutely. We'll never know. We'll never know why he was there, what he was doing. to me it just was a very unfortunate tragedy that shouldn't ever happen. You could tell the Lincoln County Sheriff was extremely like shaken up by this event, but they had to do their job.

Unfortunately, it was then taken over by the FBI, the case. So we'll never know why the kid was out there, what he was doing, what he was looking for. So what was the, could you share what the proof was that you guys were in fact being monitored? I can't. I can't just yet. I think that's cool, though. That is very, very cool. Yeah, no, that is so cool.

We didn't have any confirmation of that sort. But those buildings right there at the back gate, they've kind of got that tent that you see on some people's cars where you sure is, heck, can't see if anybody's standing right on the other side of it and looking out at you. Not that they would need a body right there because the cameras out there were spectacular. You could tell they were the high-deaf and they're moving them around as they need. too. So, big time.

Very impressive. I want to hear a little bit more about your trip there, Shannon. Who did you go with? Why were you guys out there? And what did you experience? If you're willing to share, I know we're going to see it in an upcoming docu-series, as it were. Yeah. So, yeah, who was this? What were you guys doing? So I was out there with Seth Breedlove and Brandon Daylo and Jason Yutes. And that is, of course, the Small Town Monsters crew. And I'm lucky enough that Seth invited me to to be the on-camera host for it's called On the Trail of UFOs. We recently released on the trail of Bigfoot.

I was also part of that. So if you guys are interested in big footery, then that's on Amazon Prime still, along with all of Seth's other works. I mean, he's fantastic at what he does. So this on the trail of UFOs, the first leg of filming was out here. And we talked to Sean, Kevin Jason,

Ryan, you might have seen that. And we've talked to David Weatherly and we went to Phoenix, talk to a couple people out there. I don't want to give it all away, even though we were all sharing pictures of everyone we spoke to. So it's not super top secret. But we went from Vegas to Phoenix, from Phoenix to Sedona and then Sedona to 51 and back to Vegas. And something funny that happened was we were leaving Sedona, driving out to 51. And we decided, because we were kind of bored, it's a long drive. Seth's like, ah, let's go Facebook Live real quick.

And Brandon, who's the composer for all of Seth works, he titled the video, the Facebook Live head to Area 51. So we're doing our thing. We're chatting. There's a few folks that know Seth and me and the guys and we're having a good time. And all of a sudden, the views shoot up in the hundreds, hundreds, hundreds, like at one point it's at like 800. We're like, what the hell is going on right now?

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we're getting called Karens and Kyles, and hey, you know, why are you drinking a red bull? You're supposed to be drinking a bang. I was drinking a red bull. And we're like, what's happening right now? So anyway, that was just a funny little blip on the radar. Eventually we're like, okay, we're going to stop the Facebook life now, guys, have a great day. Because we didn't, now we're, Seth was like, great. Now we're on the radar.

If, you know, anybody is actually taking these fools seriously that might be going out here. Now we've been shared in that group saying that we are heading to Area 51. Everyone's like, aren't you, you're a little early? And we're like, God damn it, we're not going to even touch the gates. We're not even going to touch the gates. We're not going to do anything stupid like that. So that was just a blip on the radar. But we get out there, and it's the first extraterrestrial sign.

There's a couple of guys taking photos at the E.T. Highway sign, the very first one. There's two of them. Yeah, the one with all the stickers all over. Yeah, yeah. And we pull up, and it's funny because they have the exact same rental car that we do. It's over for the Explorer. And we just start chatting with them. I'm like, hey, you guys want me to take your picture in front of the sign?

Because that's always helpful. So I did, and we started to chat, and he actually has some credentials. I can't really say, but he's like, yeah, I'm heading out there. We're going to head out there. I'm taking my buddy out to the gate. I'm like, well, hey, I mean, I've never actually been to the gate, and neither have these guys. Do you mind if we tag along? And we did.

So the funny thing was, I was like, well, look at us. We don't look conspicuous at all, like two cars, you know, holl and ass out of this road. Yeah, kicking up dust and matching cars. So that was another funny little blip. and we we stop, we pull over, we see the gate, it's still, I don't know, 40, 50 yards away from us at this point. And there actually was, just outside the gate, a four-door white truck. Couldn't see anybody.

I'm like, yes, Cammo dudes, this is amazing. Everybody film! And just a couple minutes later, we're outside the cars, and we're starting to do a couple of interviews. We're seeing if the gentleman that we ran into wanted to talk about the base a little bit, and he did and then all of a sudden the truck starts

coming towards us I was like this is going to be amazing we're about to get kicked out by the camo dudes we have guys everyone's dream

oh so excited it was a family of five that it was no camo dudes oh want want want want I'm like hey you're you don't have any

camo on at all there's like three kids in the back freaking dogs back there the whole nine so there was all kinds of as you know when you're on these trips, little amazing funny nuances that happen.

Well, yeah. And you, because of all the mystique behind Area 51 and all these stories you hear, everything you see, you're like, oh, God. I mean, I remember we were going down the E.T. Highway, and a car was barreling towards us at like over 100 miles per hour. And we were like, oh, my God, oh, my God, who is this? Who is this? Who is this?

And, you know, they zip right past us. And who knows? Could have been anyone out there. Maybe someone going to Rachel. I don't know. Absolutely. But you automatically assume, oh, my God, it's someone connected to the base. It's the government.

They know it. Because there's no reason for anyone else to be out there. Like you said, it's so deserted. Nothing. You need to make sure you have a full tank of gas before you leave Rachel or else you're going to be screwed. Yeah, there's not even, that's what people need to realize. They're like, oh, the town of Rachel. It is not a town.

I don't know if it's called a township, a blip. I don't know what its official title is. There's not a grocery store. get, there's not even like a Quiky Mart to grab a little tasteless sub or something. I mean, the gas, like you said, you have to get it on the way in. It's, what, 30, 40 miles in an actual little rest stop area. And that wasn't even a town. Right.

And okay. So let's let's touch on that. For anyone planning to go to this storm area 51, and we're talking like two million people have said they're going to this thing, we know that's not going to happen. but there are going to be people that show up to this. I know that for a fact. And they don't realize the closest place is Rachel and y'all, we're talking like a couple trailers maybe, a few tents and then the little alien. And they cannot house all these people who plan on going.

So I don't know. This is going to be a very interesting social experiment, which it started as a joke. and it is manifested into something way bigger than any of us can even imagine, I think. Yeah, it's certainly gotten out of hand. And I think that it might be pretty good for the alien. They'll sell some extra burgers, you know, throughout that day. And if people actually hang around, I think that what will happen, like you said, there is going to be a portion of people that go out there.

Now, whether it be just for Looky-Loo purposes, which I can't blame them. Because like you said, it'll be an amazing social experiment to see actually what goes down. What is it between 3 and 6 a.m. or whatever it is, right? I think, 3 a.m. let's do this thing, the witching hour. So how perfect is that? I think what will probably happen. And I've been posting the funny memes in my group, just because it's just so damn funny. There's ads for fake festivals and this and that.

And they said like Tupac was going to be performing and all this stuff. It's hilarious. I mean, it's obviously a joke and people just need to laugh. It's just funny, except for the people that may be taken this seriously. But I hope that what happens is they all go out there, even as serious ones, they get talked down. There'll be some food trucks there and some people selling $7 bottles of water if you were at a Vegas pool or something. And then everybody goes home safe and sound. And maybe the alien gets some extra exposure.

Not that it really needs anymore. It's very famous. But I think that is closer to what will have. And do I think that there might be a few, let's be honest. I will say, Bob Lazar made a comment about this whole Sturm, Area 51 thing. And he was so professional and diplomatic about it. I myself just go, if you are moronic enough to do that, then I don't know what to tell you. It is completely moronic to think that you should ever, ever go into a high profile, highly secured base.

just Google it. Just Google what will happen if you do so, and maybe you will reconsider. Yeah, so I remember a few years back now. I interviewed a guy who was part of a BBC television show where he in a group of UFO hunters accompanied a British comedian, Andrew Maxwell, to the gates at Area 51. And Maxwell decided to play with fire, and he literally had the whole group cross the barriers. And lo and behold, guess what happens? We arrived at Area 51 checkpoint. To me, it seemed like an ordinary military facility. But my companions were convinced this was the gateway to the extraterrestrial secrets.

We got a little bit over-excited, and we strayed into the restricted zone. But after knocking on the guardhouse door, we found ourselves lying on the ground with gun barrels pointed at our heads. The military police had detained us for trespassing and confiscated our cameras. Four hours later, we were back on the bus. after being released without charge, but with just a camera phone to capture our relief. You must shuffle towards the enemy. Ladies of gentlemen, can we please raise the toasts?

To our freedom, we are the only group of people who can say when somebody asks us, have you ever heard of? Yeah. Fifty-one man. We can say, Perriman, we've danced on it.

And, you know, maybe when I was younger and more nights, when it came to all this stuff, and I really bought into, like, the X-Files, when Mulder would break into these government installations for alien information. I'm like, yeah, rah, raw, let's, let's overthrow the government. Let's find out what they know. Now that I've become, I would hope, a more logical person and a person who understands the need for national security, these bases are doing highly classified things for a reason. Maybe some of those reasons are more nefarious than others, but they are for our defense.

And I am all for that. Again, not getting into politics or anything, but like I am all for America being like this, this place where we can always feel safe and know that our government is looking out for us. And that's what these bases are presumably for, not for housing crashed UFOs or any of that. You look at the amazing aviation things that have come out of Area 51, out of Skunkworks. You know, the SR-71, the Oxcart thing, everything, stealth bombers. Like, these are things that they've been working on there for 30 years before we knew about it. And that's what you do. That's how you get ahead in defense.

So, for A, for anyone who thinks it's a good idea to do that and try to look for aliens, you're going to be sorely disappointed. And B, you don't have a right to know what's going on. there. You just don't. And you have to accept that as a citizen. I mean, that's my opinion. No, you're completely right. And as mentioned earlier, if you make it the hour past the quote unquote gate or the boundary, do you really think there's going to be a UFO with a little alien waving at you sitting out on the tarmac? You have to realize it's more like an iceberg, I suppose, at most of these bases where what you see on the surface pales in comparison to what

is underground. We've heard many a tale about line. after line of concrete trucks back in the day taking loads of concrete underground in these massive tunnels. So folks, come on. There's no way that even if you, you could be standing on the tarmac of the longest runway in the world, which would be really bad to the bone for that selfie. But once they catch up to you, you're just in a world of hurt and you have had no experiences. You'll have had no sightings of anything strange or alien. And you're not taking an alien out so that he can get his free bud light. That is not going to happen. So, I mean, you've got a lot of bases here in Nevada alone. And I think that it's something like, what is it,

83 or 85% of Nevada is government owned with a lot of that land being a no-fly zone to where, I mean, you're talking about F-14s will escort your butt right out of that zone. Or you just get shot down depending on, you know, what's going on or where you are. They take it very seriously. So whether it's on the ground or in the air, just don't do it. Just don't be like Nike. Don't do it. So if there was at some point some kind of alien craft or something strange at 51, maybe there's some remnants there still.

Maybe it is just like ID4 where, you know, they've got that hanger with the floating craft. That would be amazing. We all want that really, really bad. But I think at this point, things have probably been shifted somewhere else. You know, you've got Wright Patterson in Ohio or you've got even Utah. You've got Dougway out in Utah. And who's to say that some of these bases aren't even connected? I mean, that's another maybe nearly a conspiracy theory, right?

Like some underground train or a transfer system big enough to do such a thing. But I don't think it's completely impossible. You know, the government's got a lot of money. Yeah. So I don't think they're putting these things on. 18 wheelers and covered them with a tarp. Like the photos would show us, yeah. Yeah, or

was it a flight of the navigator? They had that for a second, or maybe it was another movie. Sometimes I get mine crossed, but yeah, I think it's all happening under our feet for the most part, especially if it's, forget the secret stuff to keep us safe, like you said,

very important, let's keep that secret. If it is some alien stuff, they're sure as hell not going to be transporting it above ground for the most part. Right. And that's a really good point. And I would suggest anyone listening, if you go to Reddit, if you're a Reddit kind of person, there's like a really good thread about Dougway, Proving Ground. Am I saying that right? Proving, proving? I don't know. Proving, yeah. Okay. Yeah. See, that's just how much I know about military. And say, that's, we're, we are, you know, we have our limits at some points. I have the same thing where I'm like, I, I think I said the right thing, but I probably didn't.

But you guys will figure it out later, don't worry. Right. Aria 51. Yeah, Aria. Yeah. It's not an opera term. I don't know. You're going to piss your pants with Aria if you run across those gates.

I'll say that. Oh, my God. Back to, what was I say? Oh, Dougway. There's like a threat on Reddit all about Dougway where like former military people and people who've worked at Dougway like communicate with each other. And you're like, so what's going on there? And like, oh, I tried to get a sign there and they said not a chance in hell, blah, blah, blah. So you know there is definitely some like bio warfare sort of stuff going on there.

There've been like leaks in the past, I believe, at Dougway where like some sort of chemicals or pathogens like. leaked out to the public and they had to close down the entire town. Am I getting that right? Yeah, I vaguely remember something about that. I'm not going to speak further on it because I really vaguely remember it. But yes, I do remember hearing something about that. I mean, Dougway, I think it's like nearly a million acres or 800 something thousand acres. I mean, they've got the room to play. That's what folks need to realize. And they have, they do have the right to do whatever the hell they want on those grounds. So, and I think that you're right.

It's mostly just for national security purposes. And God bless them. Let them. Let them work. Don't interrupt them. Let them work. That's the other thing. Like, let these people do their jobs. They're just doing their jobs.

Even the camo dudes. Like, they like to mess around with people because it's probably boring as shit for 95% of the time they're there. Yeah, and they just run into morons. Just, I mean, 95% of the time, it's just morons they do it. That's their whole job. Do you guys realize that is their job? Yeah.

Do you remember that video of the like, I think it was a Japanese family who like went past the gate and they, Camo dudes got them out of their cars and made them like walk backwards to them. Yeah. That viral video. So I talked to the dude who, uh, was there with that family and took that video. That's real. It's not a hoax. Oh my God. And it's, that's what they do.

They wait for people to be stupid and then like you said, slap up. a $750 fine on breaching one tiny wooden outpost. But they knew you were coming for miles and miles ahead of that. They just want to see what you're going to do. And like you said, it's very few people who actually are stupid enough. Or like you said with the other guy, the tour guide, who just got distracted and went past the barrier without even knowing it. Those things happen, but you have to be careful.

and just know if you're going out there to film, they have every right to confiscate your phone, your camera, and you will never get those things back. So be prepared to lose your phone, your cameras, your drones. They will shoot those things out of the sky if they have to. Like, they don't mess around, and they don't mess around when it comes to giving people tickets either. Like, this is like getting a speeding ticket.

They have quotas to meet. This is the Lincoln County Police. They need your money. They want your money. Yeah, there's not a lot going on out there. Yeah. So we dare you to do that. So why not? If you want to donate $750 to the Lincoln County police, feel free. Yeah, go for it. Yeah, I mean, there's real life consequences. And, you know, when we were out there, we didn't even utter the D word, you know, drone. You can't drone in national parks. And you certainly should not even utter that word when you're near a place like Area 51. So, yeah. Don't do it. Do not do it. Well, moving past that, Chen.

So on the trail of UFOs, that's going to be coming to us, what, later next year. Am I correct in that? Yeah, sometime 2020. I believe that Seth kind of mentioned late 2020, but we'll see as we progress forward. In a few months, we will be heading out your way, actually. Ryan, to the East Coast. I think we're hitting New York and Washington, D.C. and then sometime after that

he's going to bring the crew back out kind of my way we're going to hit up Utah and New Mexico so yeah and that should culminate filming for on the trail UFOs so very exciting well I'm excited that you guys are coming out to the East Coast we never get any love over here when it comes to UFOs

no it's always and that's the funniest thing everyone's like well you're in Vegas you must see weird crap in sky all the time I'm like never I never have I still this day cannot say I've seen an unidentified flying object for the most part. I'm like, that's a plane, that's a hang is, that's boring. Okay. So, yeah, it's just one of those things.

It hasn't hit me yet. No. People are also cute, just to tie in the storm area 51 thing, people don't realize how far Rachel is from Las Vegas, right, Ryan? I mean, I think they think it's like, oh, Area 51's like, yeah, you get in the car, 30 minutes later, you're at the gate area. Not so much. Yeah. Here's a note, guys, don't drink two cups of coffee.

You make that trip. Or else you're going to be peeing in the desert, and that's when you've got to look out for snakes. Absolutely. And another thing about the desert is if you have to urinate the urea 51, the bushes are not big there. It's not like it's going to cover you. So you really got to take a little hike out with them snakes and the scorpions and the camel spiders to take that piss. So, yeah, that's a good PSA. If you are doing the storm area of 51, No coffee for the road trip. And everyone should know this, too, which I didn't. Don't pee if the wind's coming towards you.

I don't pee outside often. I do live in a major metropolitan area. So there's always a Starbucks or a hotel. I piss into the wind. But when I do, I drink Bud Light, alien beer. Label out for the camera. Yeah. Yes.

Like, all right, fine. If we're going to film out of Area 51, why not have piss all over my pants? That makes perfect sense. It's authentic. You're funny. You're like, look, I don't piss outside a lot. I live in New York City. I usually use a urinal or a toilet, and I'm, you know, very dignified that way, but that's amazing.

Who are we kidding? New York City is one giant toilet. Actually, that's, yeah, tchay. But I love it. I love it to death. But I cannot wait to get back out there to visit you guys. And maybe Storm Area 51 will soon. We'll see what happens if I'm feeling up to it and I got enough whiskey in me.

But let's see. I'll get a bottle of jack for us. We'll head out there. Oh, let's do it. We can start on the jack and then drink some of the $7 bottles of water that I know will be for Hawk out there when some of these folks show up on September 20th. Oh, they're no idiots. God bless America. These people are going to make so much money if anyone shows up to these things.

And if there is some sort of festival, like this could become a yearly thing. this could be the new Woodstock. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. That's why I think the ads for the faux festival that I found is really not too far off. Like you said, it may become an annual event. So it'd be cool. It would actually be kind of cool for Rachel.

I think that the little alien would like that, but I'm not so sure. Yeah, yeah, we'll see. They might have to expand the ever-growing city of Rachel or town or township. Yes, township. Whatever it is. Shen, what do you got going on? What have you covered recently over an? to the fray. I did recently listen to the episode about the ghosts of war of 1812. That was so

interesting. So what's going on over there and what can we expect moving forward? Yeah, I'm just, I'm still plugging away, talking to folks that have experienced strange things and whether it be just once or a lifetime of experiences. I recently talked to a gentleman about Thunderbirds and then another area he went, you know, he's had some possible Bigfoot activity. You know, I'm still running the gamut into the fray. So, like you said, ghosts. I've got shadow people.

I've got past live stuff. I need to do more of that, by the way. That's quite fascinating when things tie in sometimes. But it's a lot of cryptid stuff lately, which I'm really, really kind of enjoying. And, of course, as always, with some UFO stuff peppered in, I mean, that's a huge part of wonderful Fortian research. So I always welcome any kind of stories for ITF. That's why I love doing the multi-topic shows.

And yeah, so episode 200 coming up next Thursday, which is, of course, you and I's birthday, August 8th. So happy early birthday, T. Ryan. Wow, happy early birthday trains. We're recording this a little early, as folks know. It was pretty cool. And we figured that out for the first time, wasn't it? We're like, no way. Yeah, I think it took us like two years of.

It took a while. I don't know why, but yeah, maybe we just, you know, we weren't trolling each other's Facebook pages for the dates or anything. But I don't know how that came up. We're very humble and we're very like low key sometimes. So it makes sense. Yeah, we don't put up our own birthday wishes to ourselves on our pages. So, yeah, at some point we figured that out. But yeah, happy early birthday. We're talking before our birthdays. But, yeah, episode 200 is coming out. Congratulations. Yeah, thank you so much. It's gone so fast. I'm like, how in the one? That's your easy feat, first of all. Everyone should know, like, most podcasters, they stop after like 10 episodes. They just give up at that point. But to get to 200, and that's just your main episodes, you do a whole other side project as well in terms of bonus content. So, I mean, it's incredible. And that shows the dedication of a podcaster and an investigator. So I have to congratulate you on all for. for that. It's very inspiring. And I have to say,

you guys, you and Sam, Sharon, are mentioned a lot still, you know, and emails and messages and hey, and people that are just starting the show, you know, they don't realize that the format did eventually change, and you went on to do your show, and you know, it's just the way

that that went, that it turned out to be kind of just me now, talking to the folks, and then the show is kind of over. I do miss doing that intro, and just to let you know a lot of people miss you guys very, very much. So I just want to throw that out there because you guys are still,

even though you're not on with me every week, you're still a huge part of end of the fray and you always will be. That really means the world to me, Shan. Because, I mean, that you gave me my start and you are the one who inspired me to start a podcast. So anyone listening, Shannon is the reason for that. And your support system,

they were so welcoming to me. Like this young, naive euphologist trying to learn about cryptids and the supernatural. I knew nothing about that stuff. So not only did I learn a lot about like these mysterious things in the world, but how to how to give it my own voice and get that out there. So again, I have to congratulate you. I love ITF, the ITF family. And I can't wait to see where you go next. Thank you, Ryan. I really appreciate that. And where can we find this show before we go?

Also, most any and all podcatchers, probably some that I don't even know exist. It's also on YouTube. I do release that every week if you're a YouTube fan versus going to a website. The website, though, is Into the FrayRadio.com. And then I'm on the usual suspects for social media, Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Perfect. And if there's anything we can leave people with Shannon, it's Area 51, you can't stop us all. You can't stop us all.

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