Somewhere in the Skies - The Black Triangles: NUFORC Reports

Episode Date: September 8, 2024

On episode 372, Ryan digs into the archives of black triangle UFO reports that were collected by the National UFO Reporting Center (NUFORC) between the years of 1975 and 1977. These are the actual audio recordings submitted to NUFORC via the 24/7 hotline ran entirely by NUFORC founder, Robert J. Gribble. These reports were compiled and originally presented by the Eyes on Cinema YouTube channel. Subscribe here: https://youtube.com/@eyesoncinema?si=RWRXWca8cih9aYDN Patreon: www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ PayPal: [e-mail] Website: www.somewhereintheskies.com Store: http://tee.pub/lic/ULZAy7IY12U YouTube Channel: CLICK HERE Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/somewhereskies/videos Order Ryan’s new book: https://a.co/d/4KNQnM4 Order Ryan’s older book: https://amzn.to/3PmydYC Twitter: @SomewhereSkies Read Ryan’s Articles by CLICKING HERE Opening Theme Song, "Ephemeral Reign" by Per Kiilstofte Produced by LIONSGATE Copyright © 2024. Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/somewhere-in-the-skies. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is Somewhere in the Skies with Ryan's bread. Today, we're going to explore over half a dozen triangular UFO sightings that occurred between 1975 and 1977. But just like our witness accounts episodes, what better way to hear about these fascinating cases than from the witnesses themselves? The National UFO Reporting Center, or New Fork, was founded in 1974 by Robert J. Grebel, a retired, Seattle Fire Department Dispatcher who had a long-standing interest in UFOs.

Grubel established the center as a place where people could report their UFO sightings, and it quickly became a central hub for a UFO data collection. The center initially operated as a telephone hotline, allowing witnesses to call in their sightings 24-7. This hotline became a crucial resource for gathering real-time reports, and Grubel personally handled thousands of calls over the years. The sightings you're about to hear are the actual reports in audio recordings, as submitted to Newford. They stretch across the United States, from California to Washington State, from Wyoming to North Carolina. This collection of

audio reports was originally released through the work of the Eye on Cinema YouTube channel. We've provided a link to that channel below, and we hope you'll consider subscribe. But for now, here's the collection of triangular UFOs of the 1970s. This is a collection of Newman Police Department in California. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Yes, sir. This is off of Newman PD.

Yes, sir. Okay, I think, uh, when we came on the block, he started moving. Missionary? Yeah, it was absolutely safe. What time did you spot that? Okay, I'd like to get to your names. You saw it actually disappear. The estimate is how far apart those lights were,

at the end of that feels. Would that be a power? You mention that. But then the city of Modesto? Sure appreciate your reporting this. Come out with any additional information on it while I will get back to you and let you know. Okay, I thank you again. I'll just make out the lights to be floating.

That was two blocks away and not right up on the... If you take a... ...slashes of light to illuminate the ground. But not in like a spotlight kind of... ...you and let you know. ...a kind of a... ...kind of a... ...kind of an undercarried sort of an undercarriage for a hit nothing listed on your sighting.

I see. When it was moving away from you, which direction was it going? Well, from us it would be heading, well, the southerly direction towards Southern California in this respect. North or South? We were driving north two south. Highway 1. Where was the object when you first spotted it? That is, in what part of the sky?

You know, normally like you see something in the sky, you know, kind of, I don't know, on my driver's side, I just had to look straight up, you know, just kind of veered. You can see away from an object in the station with the distance or going away or whatever. Yes. And well, it just stayed right there. And then she walked it and I slowed down so we could come across the island where the highway was and go back up to the water. And as we stopped, I passed the area where we saw it and backed up and the station it was hovering away towards the southeast, southwest direction. Okay.

Do you have any idea of just how close you got to that object? Well, just that there were two or three red lights and I only saw two red lights and one white. And from what the white projection was, it looked like an undercarriage, some type of aircraft, whatever in case of being a saucer or anything like this. But the white landed to the shape that it would be in. I see. So the outline was definite, where it was kind of a triangular pyramid, this type of thing. Do you have any idea, did this appear metallic?

Just a moment. What came? I think to say it would seem metallic. The whites would really, you know, gave me the impression. any way to behave, wow, this is really a definite shape. And I thought maybe it was a communication platform that we've passed its place numerous times, day and night, never noticed any radio communication tires there

or have been erected at this time. Kind of, you know. Do you have any estimate of size? Hey, Kate? No minute. To be an airplane, you know, from the distance that we were from it. It's like, you know, you can take your thumb and blot out the sun just looking at it.

Right. This was, you know, it moved so swiftly that you saw with death racing and on down the highway, you know, and then the thing went up and two the overcast. And the zigzagging in the aircraft that was leaving the Monterey airport, whether it had anything to do with it or not, you know, just looking in the sky, it seemed going to draw it toward each other. Any problems with your vehicle when that object was inside? Not going to know that we have discussed this ourselves. We said, wow, here we are tracing this thing. It's all we need, you know, something to take over the powers of the car or whatever, type of thing.

And we actually, I guess, got a little hyper for the fact that, wow, we said, hey, the thing's coming back. Like maybe it had a sensory device or something that since we saw it, you know, this type of thing. Yes. And when we'd follow that down, it ended up to be radio towers in the immediate area. You know, we just, in a few of the other write-ups and things that add on UFO. Right. One of the two latter films, kind of, right of it on the spot. Did this upset you quite a bit?

Enough to say that this incident in San Jose here about two months back, you know, where the people said that they weren't to meet a number of people who wanted to go, you know, this type of thing. Yes. If that was a true incident, I think we'd be prospects, you know, that had to be a to go test it out. Yes. I do believe my wife, and I believe not so much to hear after what there's things out there.

You know, we can't understand or comprehend, but be willing to take a beam up and check it out. You know, that type of situation, as long as you weren't harmed or whatever. Right. Would you fill out a question here if we send it down to you? I think so. Okay. And in the meantime, would you make some notes of this? So you don't forget.

Right, we put it on paper, and we sketched out what we saw. All fine, excellent. And we got the weather that we saw in the time and the day as far as what directions and things of this nature. Okay, and that was seen this evening, right? Right, it was seen at, I'd say about a quarter to nine this evening. Okay. We sure appreciate your calling, and we'll get that question here in the mail. Okay, real fine.

And if we get any more information on this particular incident, we'll get back to you and let you know. Okay, real fun. Thank you. Bye-bye. Bye. Colin from Orange County, California. Yes. And I'm standing here as a drive-in movie here, and a friend of mine and I has observed an object that's something essentially in the same direction themselves. Yeah, and they're all, they're only 20 or 25 minutes ago. Okay. Watching these.

And the one that circled and turned and went back, I guess, on the altitude, is... How about you estimate? Appreciate this report, and we're going to get on it, and... It happened about... Five minutes ago, the radio announced it, and they said they didn't know if any more were around, and I cited another one. Okay. Where are you located? Magnolia, on Seattle, Washington. Okay. Would you give us a description of what you saw?

It's sort of a triangle shape, with a bright light in the front, two white lights on two wings, and then one red light in the middle. What time did you see this? What time is it now, do you know? 949. About 930. Okay. How long was it in view? Well, it was going faster than the one I first saw that the radio announced.

This one had just two red lights and then one white light, and this one was, what was the question again? How long was it in view? Five seconds, maybe. Uh-huh. Were you outdoors when you saw this? Yes, I was. I first thought when I ran out to see a better view of it. How far away from you would you say it was?

Well, it's about as high as an airplane would be going to CTAC from Magnolia. Okay. This heading north to south. Mm-hmm. Okay, no sound. The first one had sort of an airplane sound, but the second one I didn't really hear it. They passed each other. Okay.

And this just moved out of sight of the same. sight? Yeah, it went over the Puget Sound. I see. Okay. Like it was landing or crashing or something. It was going down when I saw it last. I see in other words, it just dropped out of sight.

Yeah. Okay. Here I see it again. It's coming from the Puget Sound area over. This is the slow one going out of the triangle with just two white lights and the red light in the middle. Looking out my window, I can see it coming over the Puget Sound area. in south to north? Okay.

Yeah. Okay. Toward Ballard. He's not going to fast as the red one was. The red one usually goes under him or above him or right to side him. I can't spot the red one right now. Oh, no. Are you watching these through binoculars by any chance?

No. Okay. But when we got a clear look when it went overhead, it was the triangle shape, this one. And the other one, I think, is the same shape. I'm not quite sure about that one. Okay. Well, we sure appreciate your call on. Did you get our number?

I called the operator, and she told me to the side of the police, and I gave me your number. Okay. Thank you very much. Yeah. Bye now. Hey, everyone. Ryan Sprague here, host of Somewhere in the Skies. If you've ever thought about supporting us, we have great two easy options for you right now.

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Thank you so much for your support and keep looking up. Have a break. Have a Kit Kat. Yes, sir. And I had a UFO sighting night before last, and I just found your card. Okay. I said reported. Could we, now did you have this yourself? Yes, I did.

Myself and one other officer. Okay, what you saw? Silver in color, and it had two bright-colored white lights. It didn't have any blinking lights or any colored lights, but two extremely bright white lights, and one was at the tip of the triangle, and the other was in the center between the two tips at the other end. Uh-huh. Okay, about what time did you see this? About 10.30. Okay. You know the exact date?

It would have been the evening of the 31st, May. About how far away was the object? Oh, when we first saw it, it was three to four blocks. I'd say it was real close. It was, we have an airport that's up on a hill above the town, and we were on our way up to patrol the airport at a low-flying plane, and it was right above the airport. and we went up to the airport and it was going away from us at the time heading to the northwest

and we watched it for between 15 and 39th. Okay, now regarding the object itself, did you notice any openings or protrusions of any kind? No. But you would say that it was definitely metallic? Yeah, definitely metallic. Did this seem perform any maneuvers or special motions of any kind? Didn't seem to. It just seemed to go away, but it wasn't fast rate of speed, I guess, for it to be that big and disappear, but I wasn't moving at a super sawing speed or anything.

Uh-huh. Because we did watch it for quite a while. We also, we documented it on our radio logs at our dispatch center here. Uh-huh. I'm with the police department in camera. And we also called out a highway patrolman. We've had a lot of cattle mutilations. Right.

And so we, you know, we investigate all strange slides. Okay. You didn't find anything in relation to cattle mutilations with this, did you? That's far. There hasn't been anything. Okay. And you're an officer with the police there? Right. I'm a police officer of the camera police department. And there was another officer with me when we spotted it.

This object at all times just moved away from you. Right. Okay. It seemed to be stationary over the airport. And for a long time, we thought it was stationary out in a distance. For a long time, it seemed to be stationary in the distance. However, we finally determined that it was just, you know, because it was going away from it. I see. Okay.

There was no noise, and it wasn't that high up, and it was going from east to west. I see. It looked like it had two headlights? Yeah. At first, I thought they might be landing lights and stuff, but quite make out the shape. My wife said it was kind of a triangle. It didn't quite go to a point, but I see. About what time did this happen?

About five minutes ago. That would be about seven. And it was going east to west and about 75th in Aurora. Some other people looked here. In the car at the time? No, we were coming out of the store and my wife looked up and saw something. She goes, wow, what the heck's that? I didn't hear any airplane motors.

I didn't hear any jet exhaust. Uh-huh. About just how long were you watching it? We watched it for about three or four or five minutes and then when it kind of got out of vision from the top of the parking lot and looked and it was gone. Uh-huh. Was this thing carrying any colored lights other than the too bright ones? There was a blue, no, not a blue, but red.

What if that went underneath was kind of like they were pale, pink. My wife said the ones underneath kind of looked like they're a pale little bleak. White, it was pale and it had four red lights. Four red lights, okay. Am I nuts or does that sound like something else you've had before? No, that's, you say it's triangular shape? Or? My wife said she saw lights going all the way around it.

I couldn't make it out quite that clear myself. I was kind of a little stun. The red lights were moving around? Oh, yeah, airplane red lights kind of flash around, don't they? These weren't. No, the strobe. The strobe light flashes, but the colored lights. These weren't even flashing at all.

They were just steady red. How many four? My wife said she thinks there was four red ones, and there was a bunch of them going around the bottom of it, you know, kind of in the shape of the... What do you figure the shape was again? Kind of a rounded triangle shape. trying your shape is rounded i see that's like i really listen your name sir sure okay how'd you happen to get a so we called him he thinks it might have been the same type of crap one the 10 saw permission on this will let you know would you please yes we will okay thank you thank you for

call big thunderstorm that night it was about four the big thunderstorms came through of course it was drizz and rain at the time the car was to deal on some part and you had a row of lights on each side and one red was greening up red it's hard and they had a big spotlight or being like some kind of that point up under. What light? Look, some of that nature is shining down. Did you see any sort of structure of the object itself? Yeah, it was triangular.

So the thing we saw in the newspaper the other day was the thing that you described, right? I didn't see it. I think within the observer they'd be. I think Ron has a picture of Newton Grove police officer and it's the exact same thing that you saw. That I saw. Now, how far away is Newton Grove from me?

What were you were you where? Where is new grave? This roof is about, what, 80 miles from here? 80 miles. It's, um, the Fountain County. Where were you at? Oh, probably.

I was right. I was sitting next on the out first and sitting there. How far away from you would have been, do you reckon? I'd say, yeah. Two hundred yards, two and three on a yard or something. What, over the roadway or off the right? Did you stop the car? Yeah, and you did it off?

And, all right, now, did you hear anything? hear any sound and did that make you a little bit more curious about what you were looking at? No, D. Maybe so curious. And was it moving at that stage? It was how it hovered when it did move, did it move fast? But it just slowly. It was gone. Really fast. How long would it have been hovering when you were looking at? A couple minutes? Well, my first got a glance, so it was all from a distance. I tried to get that close to him when I first thought. the car and got out it stood there for i get me work for five or ten seconds there there was it didn't stay there long when i stopped it vanished like that or just said it move away i see it move away but it was very good still in a horizontal position

hey ron what do you think it was i mean was it could it have been an aircraft i don't like so what color was this way on the top that was a bright light that's the prune air right yeah Were you in the car in the whole time or did you stop the car to get out to see it? Oh yeah, I stopped, got out and parked out outside of it. Did it make any noise that you could hear? No, no motor sound at all. And did this thing have any kind of light or beam of like to be? It was not sounding down, but it's just like a airplane.

It's right out in front of it, just like an airplane. Yeah. Was it pulsating at all or was it a constant light? It was burning. They want to blink in our own. The thing is awfully quiet, huh? Yeah. How big do you think the thing was?

Could you estimate? Well, it was, I don't believe it was quite as big as, uh, just how much. Now, Phil Stanton said that he didn't think it was much bigger than his car. It looked a little bigger than the car. Yeah. Yeah. I said, I tell you, on 1727. It was coming right now.

straight down this rude Jim and he got to get about the 3-01 he crossed 1,000-50 it just turned and went back it turned and went back towards your fist

and that's probably when Phil saw it as it was passing that way it turned there it was coming right I was sitting right in the stop sign

he'd come right up with well there's a wets of a telephone pole he got right about there was a telephone pole right here on 301 in the next and down here

It just comes right street towards that way and it just turned like it. Could you see what it was made out of them? No, you could tell them about what it was made. You could see the shape of it that. Yeah, you could tell it was in a beach shape. How many colored lights were all together, didn't it? Well, I never counted lights on it. But how many colors?

Was there a white light? Two. And a red light. Red and green and then bright light. It's three different. Oh, it's just that bright light in front of it. Or there's one light. Well, there's one light.

Trump was just like a headlight on an automobile. It's shining right straight down in front of it. Now, somebody said they seen one shining down, but I never seen it. How long did this whole take from the time you're stiller to the time? Well, now, from the time I seen it, and getting out to the highway and all it was about eight minutes. And it was whenever it turned and started back towards a vehicle. Well, that's when we got an automobile, and we started off. And I was outside of it, and then he started picking up to speed.

I got up to 100 and hit it just lick. If the Army will show me where they got something like that and show me how it take it up and sound that it made, and I'll see that's what it would, but I don't see it is. It ain't know everything. I've had these little lives. Yeah. These little lives around me.

Okay, and these little lives around him. Okay, and what color, were they all the same? They were all the same, or did they alternate? Well, they were red and green. They were red and green. They were different colors. Now, when you were watching it, did they seem to go off the same? on and off or would they put it to them in that's what i say they just stayed on they didn't

blink it up i just wish it'd land let me get through to see what it is and it didn't bank me and bid that it the banked i could have seen under it but it just turned there the treetop level i'll observe it through the night's uh dag looking like traveling south and i was looking more like a northeasely east of the direction and this bright white and the amber light was illuminate hole it was illuminating the perimeter If there were, it was so brilliant, if there was any running lights along the perimeter of it, it was drowning them out or they would blow the tree level. This was seen about a minute and a half before I saw it and a rolling by a rolling city policeman, which is 15 to 20 miles south of us. And a minute and a half after I saw it by an officer, St. Paul's 10 miles north.

And they were describing exactly the same time I saw. I observed what I thought would be five big lights. I would say, or guess to be about 100 feet in the air. And the moment I focused my eyes on them, it appeared that they were about 50 miles an hour, and then they speeded it up like 100 miles an hour. And I went to telling my wife and two daughters to look and see those lights. And they did. And the momentarily I'd take my eyes back off of them to make a turn, a right-hand turn.

and my wife and daughter, they kept their eyes focused on it, and they observed it. Going, it was in a downward position, like, headed towards the ground, and we followed it, and it went down behind a house. I would say a 16 to 24-inch streak behind them, behind each one of them. I couldn't determine if there was smoked, but it didn't appear to be smoke behind each one of them. It didn't even look like a flame. It was just a beautiful streak behind each one of them. And we had church at 6.30, and it was by 15 at that time.

And I thought the time we could get home and get dressed. It would be time for church. But obviously, we run into something we didn't anticipate running into. These people, they don't tell you if you come up with any kind of a story. It's got to be something that excite you whenever you see something like this. I really don't think they, at any time, the trees even bothered them. I think they were high up enough, and I think that they were in a position to totally missed the trees in the house that we talked about.

Got a big light in the center of it. And that light is as bright as anything that I have ever seen. Yeah, right? As bright as, I've never seen a light as bright. I've seen certain slots for on the airports. Right. But I've never seen a light. everybody that thing.

That light shines. It will shine right down towards the ground. Okay, and what color were all these lights? Different color light. There was blue lights. There were red lights. There's all different color lights on there. It doesn't have no sound whatsoever.

Now, how did you determine that? Like, did you go outside at all over? No, I was sitting here. I was sitting in the building here and seeing the thing up there. But did you go out at all just to see if you could get like a closer look at it? Oh yeah. I went outside there and I couldn't hear a thing on it. If you hear a thing on it, when we got a system right there, if there's any noise at all,

I hear it pick it up. It'll pick it up an automobile crosses that bridge down yonder, anybody walks by down the back of that plant down yon. That would pick it up. You mean you've got microphones set up down there that picked this up and then chance for the sound back in? Right. I just walked right out here in this driveway when I told the thing.

Where was it coming from? It came from back in here, the orders to see this 95 highway back in here, and someone told me they traveled that 95. or something. They come across here, raise a canal right down here to the back of this plant down here. Yeah. And I saw where he was at. He just wasn't above the treetops. I thought he was touching the treetops. Yeah. No sound so whatsoever. No, he came right up down here and it just looked like it just come up there and stopped there for a little bit. Over the building over here? Well, right, was going by the corner of this building. We see out the light in front office. Yeah. He was just on here over there. Right. He looked like he just came up there and stopped there and stopped and I set up a little bit and then he started to move it and over and I never seen

nothing to move like to move. Our airplane can't come up there and do that or a helicopter in either one without me hearing it. Now tell me what happened when the lights went out. When was that? It happened two nights that thing come back close to two different nights on Tuesday night and Wednesday night. At both times it came from the same direction and it went back across the same directions as it came from. All of these lights you on the front of the plant there, that's the lights that one We have one, two, three, four, five, five lights. Now, where are these lights powered from? Like, are they powered by the same source of these lights over here?

Same lights of those are down here. Were these, they're still burning. They were still on. They were still on. Those was out. And yet they're all powered by the same. That's right. The lights be down as long as that thing was hovered down there.

And when it left, the lights came back home. I said at least five minutes they were out there. But it was just as plain as this object got in your hand here. Yeah, sitting right out of there. If it hadn't to have been touching the tree drops it didn't miss much, or didn't were right down on it. If it was going to be in a plane, I would have heard it. A helicopter, it comes up there and stop the...

It's going to make a noise. The motor's got to run to hold it up down there. And that thing did not have no noise whatsoever. Do you have my file there? Was this the triangular-shaped object? Right. Well, this is one seen in North Carolina. Yeah.

Uh-huh. Exactly. The light. Okay, well, could we get the description of what you saw right from the beginning? Okay. My girlfriend saw it, too. You want the whole story? Yes.

Up on Camano Island. Right. And we saw what we thought was an airplane crash. Okay, so I'm being logical. You know, as I was looking up at, I was looking at the lights, and the lights were going straight ahead. So the thing wasn't crashing at all. It was just giving, you know, the appearance of crash.

What was actually doing was fine level just about. Yes. Okay, no sweat. About this time, I said, Karen, there's no sound of that thing. And by the time we turn around, it was gone. I see. And so I immediately reported it. Now, if you want to fold the search lights, whatever.

I wouldn't swear on a stack of Bibles, but I had the impression from looking up at it that there was very, there was no body to the inside. How do you like that? Well, in other words, you feel that the center was just completely hollow. Right. Uh-huh. Okay.

Okay. But now Karen at the time didn't observe that. So I, that's, you know, I'm not perfectly sure of my judgment on that, you know. Yes. Okay. It's okay. They do not match the continuous. I think it was flying parallel. I mean, I think it was till plane crashing. Have any visual estimates regarding the, how far away it was? Okay. You take your ordinary, take your ordinary tree.

Whatever. What, what are they fur? And just the average per tree and a forest and double it. I see, okay. All right, double or triple it. Somewhere right in there. That's still pretty low. Yeah, very low. Yeah, go ahead.

Do you have any visual estimate regarding size? Okay, size, Karen. I'd say about two car lengths in length, those things in the feet, you know, just rough. Would there be any possibility of getting a drawing of this from you? How do you like that? You know, with my mother cleaning. Lots of places can expose you to identity theft. Oh, no.

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Yeah, it's sunrise, both. Now is that, what side of the island is that? Okay, that would be... Find the name of their... I see, okay. Okay, so you won't find that road there except that I'm facing... What... You are the road that leads up where we saw the UFO?

I'm right there, right? I've heard about things like that may at all. Any agency other than the State Patrol? And that it takes person by surprise, you know? Yeah. Well, you know, if it happened again, I'd definitely stay... And if I saw one myself. myself.

Well, I'm going to be kicking myself in the rear end now for a long time. It's about it. It's just, I mean, it's just, okay, it seemed to be triangular V-shape. I can make out reddish lights on one side of here, green and the other. That didn't match. There was no sound at all, same as mine. Had one big spotlight, the first guy says, and the other one says, you know, two big spotlights. From the object, do they appear to be directed to the ground?

No, that's what I focused my eyes on the beans. the beams i mean that's the logical thing to do is look at the direction of the lights and then you can tell whether it's coming down or whether it's flying level or what direction it's flying so until i focused my eyes on the two big beams that were coming out i was still worried about the thing crashing in other words it was giving that impression of coming down in other words these beans were almost like headlights that's exactly what they were like big okay do you think that we could get a copy of that drawing yeah and we would also like uh a map not it doesn't not to be too detailed, showing your position in relation to the object in the object's movement.

All right. And you have our address? Did you send it when you... Did they send the address on that? Oh, I'm sure you did. You'd have a return address on the envelope. Yes, oh, yes. Okay.

I see. Now, could we have the name of the lady that was with you? Yeah. Well, why don't you just talk to her? Hold on. Okay. Hello. Hi there.

Okay. If we could get your name for additional witness. Okay. It's Karen. Yeah, that was really strange. I occasionally pick up the inquire, just for something extra to read. And it was on the back page, it's this week's issue. And I took a, well, they have a drawing of it.

I took one look at that, I said, my God, you know. And so I click read the article and called up Ted says, you won't believe this. We released a story in relation to that activity back in North Carolina. Would you like me to send you a copy of it? Yes, would you. Sure will. Yeah, I would be interested in that. Sure.

Yeah, because I thought, well, you know, I would like to send you know, I would. Well, I can't even quite remember the date we saw this, the State Patrol. I don't know if they keep... No, they have it on their record. Oh, they do. Was that about the first part of June? Is that it? Do you have the record there?

I can't even quite remember it was the first part of June or July. No, I've got the... It's upstairs in the house. Yeah, because I can't quite remember when it was. But this one from North Carolina, I think, was first part of the year or something. Right, it was in April. They were having quite a seizure reports there. Very low level.

Yeah, this one was very low. I'm the one, I think that when Ted was looking more at the road driving, I was looking around and first, I think I first spotted it and said, hey, look, there's a plane crashing. And then we both started discussing it and slowing down and so forth. So, yeah, that was something else. Okay, can I talk to Ted again? Okay, fine. Thank you. Well, we sure appreciate your calling because this is what we refer to as a classic case because of the closeness.

Right. Now, is there any chance that I can find out any more information on the stuff they saw in Carolina? Yes, I can send you a copy of that. Also. I sure appreciate it. And let them know that we spotted, you know, one in the same family anyway, down here. Uh-huh. Because I've never seen, you know, I really so much different than any of the others that have been, you know, shape like this.

And then all of a sudden... Well, this triangular shape has been seen quite a bit since the North Carolina activity. And we're just wondering if we're not dealing with an entirely new race. Oh, yeah? Visiting the area. Military area like that. No. No, that's been discounted completely. Not this type, though, huh?

Off and on, a triangular shape will show up it has over the years. With the beams and the flashing light? Not necessarily with the beams, no. See, this is what was so unusual to me, and that's why I was so convinced at the beginning that it was an airplane. It's an airplane. It takes quite a bit to convince me. It's right. And I hope you can give me some more information, too.

If we do, we'll let you know. Okay, thanks an awful lot. Thank you very much. Bye-bye. The Somewhere in the Sky's podcast is part of the Lionsgate Sound Network. Please take a moment to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever possible. Thank you for listening.