Somewhere in the Skies - The Bodyguard UFO "Bombshell", Elizondo Interviews, New AARO Director

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

On episode 14 of the livestream, Ryan breaks down the latest UFO news, including: - AARO appoints new director. - Pentagon official's proposed bodyguard makes bombshell UFO claims. - Growing belief in UFOs is dangerous. - Elizondo interviews - Which U.S. states rank high with UFO reports? Vetted Podcast channel: https://youtube.com/@VETTEDPODCAST?si=fcGn88UQemB9mx-T International Astronomical Union paper: https://kclpure.kcl.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/293600954/IAU_Equivocal_Encounters_Paper_2024.pdf Patreon: www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ PayPal: [e-mail] Website: www.somewhereintheskies.com Store: http://tee.pub/lic/ULZAy7IY12U YouTube Channel: CLICK HERE Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/somewhereskies/videos Order Ryan’s new book: https://a.co/d/4KNQnM4 Order Ryan’s older book: https://amzn.to/3PmydYC Twitter: @SomewhereSkies Read Ryan’s Articles by CLICKING HERE Opening Theme Song, "Ephemeral Reign" by Per Kiilstofte Produced by LIONSGATE Copyright © 2024. Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/somewhere-in-the-skies. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While our government's official position is not to speculate on this subject, we can choose to let our minds explore other possibilities, to use our imaginations. For if we consider that astroscientists agree on one point, that the possibility of life elsewhere is not only quite probable, some fields is there without a doubt. Let us suppose, then, that these objects are real space vehicles, extraterrestrial origin, and not an illusion of the mind.

There's nothing to hide at all. To somewhere in the live stream. And I am your host, Ryan Sprague. And man, where do I even start? It's been a day. Guys, it's been a day. I'm wishing all of you a very happy Sunday. I hope you're having a good weekend.

We're coming off from seven days since Anomicon, 2024. And 28 hours, we streamed 14 hours a day for two days straight. It was incredible. Absolutely incredible. We're going to have a special guest joining us in just a few moments to talk about their experience at Anomicon, 24. See what kind of trouble they got into at the bar, in the lobby. You know, people selling their books and everything. We'll see how that went for them.

But yeah, I do want to thank everyone for attending Anomicon 2020 for this past. What was it? Sunday and Monday. Yeah, it seems like it was just yesterday. For those of you who may not have attended, you can attend anytime you want. It's available in perpetuity right now, right here on YouTube. You can watch pretty much all of it. I'll get to that in just a second.

but we had over 36 speakers talking about everything from UFOs, Bigfoot, ghosts, psychics, you name it. We talked about it. Lake Monsters. What else? What else? What else? Yeah, yeah, we just really, really ran again.

It was so much fun. I'm still getting messages and emails from people saying how interesting the speakers were and that they want to learn more. So you can watch both days right here on YouTube. just go back in the live stream playlist and you should see day one and day two. However, I do want to mention YouTube only archives up to 12 hours of live stream content. We went for 14 hours each day. So that means basically our last three presentations in both days were cut off on the live stream versions that you see right here on YouTube.

But fear not because I. almost have uploaded all of those presentations individually right now on the Anamicon playlist. So you can check that out and watch those individually. I will be uploading all of the Anamicon 24 presentations right here on YouTube as well. As time goes on, I think I've dropped four or five of them already. So you can watch those two. Yeah, it was just amazing, guys. We raised a book. bunch of money donations for Donate Life America and other organ transplant groups in the UK, in Canada, and in America. These were all organizations that advocated for organ donations

something my late mother, Sue Sprague was obviously a huge advocate of. She was an organ recipient and it saved her life and she spent the rest of her life 27 extra years of life, advocating for organ donation and making sure that you become an organ donor. You can sign the back of your ID and say you're going to, but at the end of the day, it comes down to your family. They make the ultimate decision. So make sure you have that conversation with your family. I got to breathe. Breathe right. Make sure you have that conversation with your family, because again, it will be their choice. But yeah, Namakan was a huge success. We raised a bunch of for that organization.

And I hope you will check it out right now in the archives. But I want to get someone else's thoughts, someone who joined me for all 28 hours of streaming. And that is our incredible moderator, Suzanne. She's in the chat right now. But you guys behave because I'm bringing her in. And we're going to get her thoughts on how everything went. Do a little debrief live with you guys.

So here we go. without further ado, bring her in. There she is. You are on mute, I believe, Suzanne. You're always so polite. There you go. There you go. I'm trying of this, right? Eventually. You're not going to be the one on camera. You're always the one beyond the scenes, make sure the chat's running smoothly. But we've had you off.

We've learned eventually. So, before we get to a nomicon, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart and soul for spending those 28 amazing hours with me. But you are spending your night with us right now while on vacation. So I have to ask, can you give us an idea of where in the world is Suzanne? What's that? Where in the world is Carmen San Diego? Where in the world is Suzanne right now?

You never know where we're going to pop up. But right now, today, we're sitting. on a tiny green dot in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, about two and a half or three hours west of Porto, Portugal, in the middle of the Atlantic. And it is just lovely. I'll see if I can give you a shot. I don't know if it'll work.

There you go. Oh, my God. I wish I could say this name. It's pitch black here now, but all you would see is brick buildings behind me. me, so I'm very jealous. That's amazing. Well, thank you. I appreciate it. It's really lovely here.

I got tickled, though, after our Anamacan feat of vigor, I would call it, posted funny things. They may have seen us on Twitter, wherever we were. You posted a picture of a dead alien and said it was you, and so I posted a picture of a dead mummy and said it was me, and Queens remember me. Yep. We had the dead NASCAR mummy and we had the dead alien odds, obviously, alien. It was perfect. But, you know, all jokes aside, like, it was incredible.

I couldn't have asked for, like, a better turnout. The speakers were just, like, next tier. And I just, I can't believe the amount of time and dedication and insight that all of those speakers gave to us in the audience. It's just, I will never be able to thank them enough for all that. But as somebody who was there the whole time, I'm sure that you learned a little something I learned so much. What stood out to you? Were there any talks or presentations or moments throughout the freaking marathon we ran with the Namicon? And yeah, give us your thoughts on Anomicon 2024.

for. So one of them was really a surprise to me. And it was, I think it was Renee Watt. And going back, I was trying to figure out who that was today, and I couldn't find it. But I think it was Renee talking about the things that empaths bump into. And she said something like, if you're one of those people who is suddenly overwhelmed with a strong feeling of some kind, not to assume it's actually yours. It might be someone near you instead of you. And on the first leg of this trip over the Atlantic, I was suddenly overcome with this anxiety and fear and dread. And I'm not a fearful flyer. We go all the time. I don't, that's not one of my fears. And but it made me think of, I think it was Renee. And, and I looked up, I thought, oh, maybe this isn't about me. And I looked up and there was this woman coming down,

the aisle boarding with this look of abject panic on her face. And I thought, oh, my goodness, strong lesson learned. It wasn't about me. I didn't have to sort it. I needed to wish her well, but it wasn't something I had to sort it. That was a powerful little day-to-day lesson that just, you know, wasn't the focus of her talk. It was just the gift I ended up getting out of it. That's so interesting. And I do want to apologize. I think my microphone was off at the whole beginning there so I hope everyone can hear me more clearly guys thank you someone in the chat let me know um I I know that feeling like as a I want to say I'm an empathic

but I mean severely to a fault empathetic person um I guess you could say not energy vampire but like I do tend to take on the energy of those around me um if someone's panicked I feel panicked and you um I yeah yeah so I did learn a lot from Renee's talk in terms of like how you can compartmentalize as someone who has a higher form of empathy or intuition how you compartmentalize that as part of your life and then live your normal life too um it's interesting i always i always do like ponder what it must be like

to be like psychic or right carverting every day it's every yeah but my goodness um what a burden is well at times, I'm sure. Yeah. You know what else I loved? I don't know if it struck you. Well, first of all, we ended up with over 1,300 viewers for huge swaths of time. And it made me wish we had kept count last year. I wasn't paying attention enough.

But I could say it this year because that seems like a tremendous increase to me. It was insane. And that chat performed beautifully. they were so funny. In fact, I got so tickled, and I wish I could remember who said this. And it was late, and Ryan ends up looking at me on my end of the camera, like, what is going on with you? But goofy is a $3 bill at some point. We both were, yeah.

Both were. And I was just busting out laughing because somebody, one of the guests, that's something about a measurement in the metric system using metrics. And somebody in the chat posted, Americans will do absolutely. anything to keep from using the metric system. And then it gives an example. I think it was a fellow named Tim. I'm not sure. But he says, yeah, I think it was about the length of two horse trailers and half a

zamboni. We both were dying at that point. I know. I would have found anything funny, but that was like authentically pure comedy. Well, I don't know who Tim is, but he needs to be on the road. Yeah, yeah. And I see a bunch of our regulars that were in. the chat now that we're at Anomicon too. So I want to thank all of you guys for anyone new who's just hopped in and is joining us. I should mention this is a live stream we do every Sunday where we break down all the latest UFO news and space news, tech news, what have you. We're going to break down some interesting stories tonight for sure. But yeah. Yeah, yeah, please. You know, we had so many viewers that were not our normal people. The hell bent holler crowd. How much fun of that?

Now, I know you were busy working on camera. They were great. They piled in with our group. Everybody had a delightful time in the chat. They were a lot of fun, smart. And I thought that was great to get our group mixed with that group and everybody have a good time. That's what an Omiccan is all about, like bringing these different communities together,

whether it's ghost hunters, UFO hunters, or like Hellbent Holler, they kind of do everything. They, they, uh, Jesse did, Jess did a presentation on, um, Southern Appalachia and all the high strangeness that goes on there. And oh my God, if you go back and watch that presentation, some of the video and audio that they've captured out in the woods in terms of what could possibly be maybe a cryptid of some sort. Like, I was like legitimately shaking after listening and watching some of that was not. The ones that I put on the go back and watch list. Yeah.

That one, man, the soul seekers paranormal. Yes. Amy Murphy and Tanya Steinborn, they had some really cool ghost videos and activity that they captured. Then that funny Paul Kimball piled in the chat and he's hilarious. I know you don't get to see a lot of that. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm going to bring up Paul in just a minute here. But yeah, I'm trying to think UFO-wise, we had some awesome talks by Lester Nare came to talk about how you can reach out to your Congress members and stuff to do with the UAP caucus and like the new legislation that we're hoping for this upcoming year when it comes to UAP.

So that was pretty cool. Really good example, too, of how layered it was in terms of subject matter, which I thought was great. There was something for everybody in that 28-hour period. demons. We had cursed objects. We had half the team at Small Town Monsters was there talking about... I'm scared of those cursed objects. I don't know. Oh, man. It was all over the place.

Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think. Is there anything else I'm missing? We had a couple tech issues, but I mean, 28 hours of live streaming, it's bound to happen. It was okay. It was okay. Also, you know, we had one little incident with our trans presenter who did a great job, very thoughtful job, very enjoyable. We had one little incident in the chat, and I was so proud of how the chat reacted. Chat wasn't having it.

Absolutely. That was a wonderful conversation with Dash over at Liminal. I highly suggest people check that out. That was one of our first talks on day two where Dash talked all about queerness and trans and how that can be a sort of like a opening door to the liminal, the paranormal, the unknown, and how a lot of trans and queer individuals are attracted to the paranormal and the liminal. And it makes sense if you think about it. It does, especially if you live in areas like we do part-time in Santa Fe, New Mexico, where the Native Americans have such a strong presence and a strong feel for the land and the

and the things going on in the paranormal. And what I love, one of the things I love about them is for all their generations, those who are trans or queer, they're actually revered. They are identified as someone as extremely special and not necessarily unusual, but something worthy of appreciation. And so I thought all that fit together. It was perfect. Yeah.

We had a great, a great discussion with Susto, the podcast over there, aiding Gasolados did a preserving, you know, Hispanic and Latin culture through the paranormal. So, yeah, again, like, it wasn't just about hearing spooky stories or, like, you know, hearing. No, this is really about bringing communities together and seeing how different our perspectives can be when culture does play in to a lot of this stuff. Like, look at the work of Jacques Valet and stuff like that. So, yeah, religion. We even had a religious pastor, professor from a university come and talk all about religion and the paranormal. Man, it was just amazing.

It wasn't incredible. And hats off to you, Ryan. I'm not sure anybody can truly appreciate the amount of work that's involved in pulling that off. It was enormous. Well, I have to thank you again for really tying everything together and helping me every step of the way. And I really, really have to thank the speakers. Like, at the end of the day, this was all them. Yes, I do a lot behind the scenes, post-production and all that stuff,

organizing and all that. But, I mean, without the speakers, we would have no Anamacan. And for them to take the time to make these video presentations for free, expect nothing in return. It's just like, I'm just so eternally grateful. And to everyone who watched for sure. Me too, and it wasn't like they just dashed something off the back of their hand. These people thought about the presentations.

Yes. Oh, absolutely. You could tell. This is not just thrown together. It was, it was, I just loved it. I loved it. I hope everybody can go back and watch. Everyone go back and watch. And again, like I said, we will be releasing the individual talks we already are. And on that note, I should announce it's coming back, baby. Anomicon 3 next September. So be on the lookout for that. For that, we're going to be scaling it back.

I know. I said that last year. I know. I talked to my dad earlier today. And he's like, how did Namakan go? He was busy all weekend. I was like, it's good except, you know, we had 36 speakers, 14 hours a day. And he was kind of like, moderator's dead. We're all dead. Yeah.

And he was the first to tell me, dude, didn't you say last year you're not going to do the same thing and here you are. I'm like, yeah, I'm Papa Sprag to pull you back in line. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I should say,

Papa Sprague says hello to all of you. He's busy tonight, but he's going to start joining us in the live chats again soon. I know everyone really enjoys. He's awesome. If you are watching Dad, sending all my love to you and the family back home.

Awesome. Any last words, Suzanne, about an Nomicon before we let you go back to the breakfast club? Go back to the breakfast club. club over in the chat. I don't think so. I just would encourage everyone to go pick out one or two and watch those and the topic of interest and then pick one or two that are not necessarily your topic of interest and listen and learn to those as well. Absolutely. I couldn't have put it better

myself. All right, Suzanne, well, I will let you go back. Thank you for taking the time to join me. You're so welcome. Give all of my love and thanks to Bill as well. I hope you guys have a wonderful vacation and yes I will talk to you very soon. All right. Have fun. Thank you. Bye. All right, guys. There we go. We got the debrief on Anomicon 20204 with our incredible moderator, Suzanne. I did see in the chat. Someone asked if there have been any updates on the David Grush lawsuit. I see her nodding. Is it something worth talking about now, Suzanne, or should we wait? Okay, she said no. We'll talk about it when there's more prevalent updates about it.

But she is diligently working, and she sent me some stuff that shows me that she's really working on this. So we should have some updates. Upadates? What are upidates? Soon. I'm going to go back up in the chat. I think Suzanne and I have both. We were chatting so much.

We are not, hello, hello, Robert biologist, Dalid, Ruth. All the regulars are here. all work low pay. Hi guys. Welcome, welcome. Welcome. The super chat is open, guys. If you want to help out the show, Superchat, Super Stickers, that's an immediate way. You can help us out here at somewhere in the skies and somewhere in the live stream. We also have a buy me a coffee. You can see the QR code right there. You can go ahead and scan that and help us that way. We have PayPal as well. All the ways. They're there. They're in the show notes.

If you want to help us out, we greatly, greatly appreciate it. Every single penny goes right back in to making sure this show continues and grows. That being said, if you can't help us monetarily, all we ask is that you like this video. You hit subscribe, share it with a fellow weirdo, whatever you got to do. That's all we could ever ask of you as well. So thank you, thank you, thank you. Paul Kimball, you guys may know Paul. as the ghost hunter.

He is the leader of the pack for the show, Haunted that I am currently on seasons 10, 11, and 12. We're going to be filming a new season very, very soon, within the next few weeks, actually. So I'm heading back to Nova Scotia to be an islander again and hunt some of the most haunted ghosts and locations in the maritime. So I can't wait. But Paul was on my island this past week.

That's right. Paul Kimball came to Scotland and we met up and we went for a haunted pub crawl all across the Royal Mile here in Edinburgh. It was so much fun. We had so, so much fun. And what better way to end the night than after, I'm not going to say how many beers, but a good amount of beers and go to a graveyard. one of the most haunted cities in the world, Edinburgh, Scotland. We went to the Canongate Kirkyard, and we hunted some ghosts. And I'm going to show you guys a little video here that I took.

If you're not familiar with an SLR, this is basically a, well, mine's an app on my phone, but it's this device that can basically sense humanoid figures, even if there's nothing there. It's able to use technology to sense, you know, a head, a body, limbs, things that are moving in succession that would imply that something humanoid is in the area, even if you can't visually see it or hear it in that moment. And, you know, I just figured, what the heck, I'm going to open up my SLR app and see if anything's awake here in this graveyard. It was pretty late, but we think we woke something up. So I'm going to go ahead and play you this video. Don't judge too harshly.

Again, we had a few beers in us. We were excited. This could be easily explainable. It could be absolutely nothing. But I do want to show you guys this and get your thoughts on it. So this was me and Paul Kimball at about 1 a.m. Wait, no, not 1 a.m. I think there's a timestamp.

It was like 11.30. It felt like 1 a.m. I'll put it that way. And this is in the canon gate Kirk Yard. So let me pull this up. All right. And I'll give this a play for you guys. That goes.

What the hell? Those ones over there are explainable. That's right there, right? Yeah, what is that? Oh, hit record. That's right against the... Oh, it's human. It looks like a human figure.

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Save up to 40% your first year at LifeLock.com slash special offer. Terms apply. Okay. So, let me get rid of that there. What do you guys think? I want to know what you think in the comments below or in the live chat. This could be easily explainable. I went up to the wall where we sort of sensed or captured that figure.

As it were, there was like a monument on the wall. So it's very possible that it just latched on to that monument and sort of sensed a humanoid. But when I went up to the monument, there wasn't like, it wasn't a statue of a human. There was no image of a human being. It was just words, just text, you know, like an inscription almost. But it was weird. It was very weird. That's all I can really say.

Let me go up in the chat and see what you guys are saying. it's doing the Michael Jackson I love it Dale it heck yeah I was doing some moonwalking that's for sure Robert said that was crazy Eric said the one thing about this video is I was watching it on X

and the figure showed up where there is a lighter contrast to the rest of the background yes Eric yeah so that was the god I don't even know what you'd call it like a memorial I guess or something on the wall it was interesting

Jim said pick up on the money. Very, very possible. I was using a similar app and it used to work and it showed a figure appearing on the background. The AI in the app needs training. That's very possible too. Self-learning, baby. I got to use it more often. I'm afraid to use it in my apartment. Not going there. You'll... Sus-s, like, no, no, no. I'm not allowed to have a Ouija board in my apartment that was a

rule, not by my choice. But yeah, that's not happening either, even though I will, can one say they love using a Ouija board? I love using a Ouija board. My name is Ryan Sprag, and I love using a Ouija board. And I'm going to be using it a lot on Haunted this upcoming season. And we've had some really interesting stuff come through the Ouija board in the past seasons, which you will see very soon, I promise. I know I tease haunted all the time. Here's the deal. with the ghost show I'm on. It's only in Canada. It's through East Link,

which is a cable network in Canada. And they air the most current seasons every fall. So this upcoming fall is the first season that I'm on. I'm on the whole season, which is awesome. However, if you're not in Canada and you're not watching live, you're not going to see it. However, another however, they are releasing the seasons of Haunted

on the East Link YouTube channel and slowly they're releasing them they're on season four right now I don't show up till season 10 so there's a little ways to go before I start popping up on YouTube but they will eventually everything will be rolled out on the YouTube channel so what I want to suggest to you guys

is get ahead of the game go catch up on Haunted because it's I mean this it's an awesome show Like it's not one of these ghost bro shows where they're making stuff up or they're trying to fight a ghost or anything like that. We take it very seriously. And we're not afraid to call things out. We're not afraid to debunk things.

And we're not afraid to admit when we cannot explain things. And I've already had some extremely unexplainable. And I guess I could say paradigm shifting things. happened to me personally. And I don't think they're done. And I don't think they stayed in Nova Scotia either. So yeah, not opening that app in the apartment, as Susan said, not happening. That's it, guys.

I want to say hello to Paul Kimball if he's watching. I will see you in a few weeks, my friend. But let's get to the UFO news. You're not here for ghost hunting. You're here for UFO news. And we've got plenty of it for you guys. So I'm going to start with our first story here. You guys like charts and graphs, right?

I was a big charts and graphs person in school. I don't know about you. This story comes to us from the Daily Mail in the UK, and it was titled Unlikely U.S. state named Best for UFO Spotters in New Study. So Montana, is anyone from Montana in the chat? Let me know. Montana has been named the top. spot where you are most likely to have a close encounter as half of locals claim to have seen a UFO.

50% of the population of Montana. Delaware took second place with 80% of locals admitting to believing in UFOs, but zero reported they had actually seen strange craft or odd lights in the sky. Zero. That's insane. Other chart topers included the state of Massachusetts, as data collected from Google searches show that the New England state is the most UFO obsessed in America, with 13,750 monthly Google queries related to the topic. That's interesting. We literally had an Anamacan presentation by Nomar Slavik titled New England Encounters. And I just dropped that one like two days ago. So I highly suggest you guys go back and watch that in the archives right now.

That's interesting. But New York and New Jersey were not far behind. The Google search terms incorporated in the analysis included, quote, UFO citing, quote, are UFOs real and quote, UFO videos, among others? So South Dakota came in dead last in UFO interest. I'm going to put this full screen so you guys can see it a little better. but South Dakota came in dead last

with only 850 monthly searches or 9.25 per 10,000 residents. Arkansas placed second with 2870 UFO Google searches or 9.36 per 10,000 people in the state,

followed by Louisiana with 4,300 searches for a 9.4 per 10,000 residents. You number fiends out there must be going nuts for this. I know it's a lot to take in. Collectively, one full quarter of all Americans, 25% admitted to believing in UFOs, according to the survey data. And pay attention to that because it's going to actually

play into a story, another story we're going to talk about, I believe at the end of the show. 25% of Americans believe in UFOs. I tend to think it's higher, to be completely honest, but what do I know? So Newfork, which is the National UFO Reporting Center, as used in this new study, was 132,850 last year. I don't know what that's in reference to.

Oh, I'm sorry. Here we go. I skipped ahead. the total UFO sightings, according to data from the National UFO Reporting Center, as used in the new study, was 132,850 last year. The new study incorporated a range of metrics to determine which state gave locals and visitors the highest chance of seeing a UFO, including UFO sightings via New Fork, data on light pollution levels, and surveyed data from 257 people on topics related to UFO. UFO encounters across each U.S. state. So this is interesting who did this survey. The project was sponsored by Jackpot City Casino.

It's now making sense, all these numbers, statistics. Someone's counting cards over there at Jackpot City. Jackpot City Casino, for reasons, the article literally says this. The project is sponsored by Jackpot City Casino for reasons that have not been fully disclosed yet. What is up with that? They working with Enigma Labs. Yeah, I went there. But their state's high light pollution.

Let me see. The state's high light pollution and meager seven, I'm getting ahead. I'm so sorry, guys. The adjustments based on light pollution, statewide population. density and surveyed data significantly altered the findings when compared to New Fork's raw UFO citing figures. California, for example, would have otherwise topped the list with a staggering 16,354 UFO sightings in total reported to New Fork. But the state's high light pollution and meager 7% of citizens who reported having seen a UFO themselves in the studies survey data

way down the Golden States' ultimate ranking. So, yeah, a lot of these, this is cool. I mean, it's interesting. It's a cool stat, you know, especially if you live in the U.S., you can like brag if you live in Montana. It really goes to show that if we want true, accurate sort of numbers on things like this, we need more people to report their UFO sightings, specifically to Newford.

They are the largest and longest running reporting center in the world. In fact, literally within the next few hours, I'm dropping the Summer on the Sky's podcast, a new episode, where we cover 10 triangular UFO settings reported to New Fork in the mid-1970s, a lot of which were reported by police officers. And you're going to hear the raw phone calls reported to New Fork from, these very scared witnesses of these black triangles. Once again, that took place throughout the U.S. in the 1970s. So if you see something, guys, report it. New Fork.

Move on. Email me. Like, I know I'm not a reporting center, but I can steer you in the right direction. Just to tell someone to archive these things, to have them live somewhere and not fade into obscurity. So yeah, yeah, pretty cool. It reminds me of the old, you know, Sten Friedman thing where he would give lectures and he would ask the audience, how many people have seen a UFO? And 90% of the people would raise their hands, admittedly. And he'd say, cool, how many of you reported it somewhere? Those hands went down so damn quick. And maybe 5% of the people would say

they reported it. So yeah, we have a reporting problem. And so is the U.S. military. But that's changing. That's changing. So, yeah. Make of that what you will, guys. I'm going to go up in the chat and see what's going on. Robert says it's not pronounced new fork. It's pronounced new force. Oh, interesting. Is that true? I didn't know that. me not speak words good, so me sorry, Robert. Me so sorry. All right. Oh, sorry.

I missed these start things, guys. I'll just ask long day, Ryan. Yes, it was, my friend. You have no idea. I'm going to tell the story. Screw it. I'm going to tell it because he posted about it. The reason I'm drinking tonight is in celebration.

of my closest friend, my mentor, not being dead. So I woke up this morning to like a barrage of texts asking me what's going on with Peter Robbins, famed UFO researcher, my hero, my mentor. And people saying he's, he, I'm being told that he's gravely ill or has passed away. And of course, I went as wet as a ghost. I dropped my phone. I'm like, what is going on? Like, no one ever expects to hear those things. And, you know, I started digging and I started asking around to everyone.

I immediately called Peter and he didn't pick up. Mind you, this was early UK time in the morning. So it was the middle of the night in America where he is. And I texted him. My Facebook messaged him. Freaking tried to send a carrier pigeon. I don't know. Like, whatever I could do to try to get a hold of the man.

And I couldn't. And I was getting very worried, especially when he didn't pick up the phone. Because he's pretty good about that. So I was able to reach out to all of these people who had also heard the same rumor and, you know, started doing that thing where you trace it back to see who told who what? Reverse engineering that shit. And eventually I was able to find the individual. who this all started with. And I'm not even going to tell you their response,

like how this rumor started or why, or in what state this person was. When they made this mistake, they, it was the wrong name, the wrong person. Yet they decided to begin telling people about this before, you know, family were notified. or any announcements were made and got a lot of us very scared, worried sick. So yeah, don't do that.

That's a lesson for anyone out there. Don't spread rumors about someone passing away until you hear from family or there's been an announcement of some sort. Yeah, lesson learned, I hope, for that individual. But all of this to say, Peter took this in stride and even posted on Facebook. you know, the old saying, like, the, uh, the rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated or something like that. It was, it was so Peter. Um, and I'm actually going to be seeing him here in the UK, thank God in the coming week. So I'm very, very excited for that. But Peter Robbins is

alive and well, and he is killing it in the UFO world as usual. So that's where I'm at, guys. Um, And because of that, tonight I am drinking this in Peter's name. It's a awesome beer. I can't even pronounce it. It's a vison marzin. It's delicious. Kind of a citrusy sweet taste. I'm loving it.

I'm loving it. How are we doing, guys? Glad it turned out well, biologist says. Thanks, man. Richard asks, are you going to be watching Beetlejuice too? That is a very unrelated question, but I love that question. Heck yeah. I am a huge Michael Keaton fan.

His Batman is still and forever will be my favorite. And I actually worked at Beetlejuice the musical on Broadway. And it is one of the best musicals I have ever had the pleasure of seeing. And I've worked hundreds of Broadway productions. And I will tell you, man. It is just so much fun. It's hilarious. The music slaps like hell.

And the performances were just amazing. So if it's touring in your hometowns across the world, I know it's touring internationally now too, check it out. It's definitely, definitely worth seeing. The book is great. The lyrics are great. The music is fantastic.

All this being said, I've heard really, I guess I'd say I've heard mixed things about Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Don't say it one more time, Ryan. You are going to have to bust out the SLR camera. I've heard mixed things, but I've also heard really good things from a lot of diehard Beetlejuice fans. So I heard the nostalgia bait is just like a teetering on the edge and it's not too annoying

or like clouds a very unique story from what I've been told. And, you know, I love anything. that those actors are in. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Eric saw Deadpool. Love Deadpool. Epic. Loved it, too.

My man. Loved it, loved it. I've not seen the new aliens movie, Robert. Romulus. I still have to see that one. Anomicon had Suzanne and I going crazy. All right. Let's get to our next story here, guys.

And this is going to be a new face for some of you. A face you better get used to. and hopefully a face that we grow to love. This is Dr. John T. Kozlowski, and he is the new head of Arrow. So, this story comes to us from The Debrief. The Pentagon's official UAP investigative office has a new full-time director. Arrow announced on Monday that Dr. John T. Kozlowski has been selected as its new full-time director. Arrow stated, Dr. Kozlowski brings extensive experience working in multiple scientific fields, including quantum optics and crypto mathematics, as well as leading mission-oriented research and analysis teams.

Hey, maybe he's the one who worked with that casino on that thing. It's all making sense now. Casalski holds a Ph.D. in electrical engineering from Johns Hopkins University and a bachelor's degree in mathematics and physics from California State University, San Bernardino. More than a year after Arrow was established, an official website associated with the office was launched in 2023. Later in November of that year, Arrow included an official secure reporting mechanism on their website, which provided military and other government personnel, quote, with direct knowledge. of U.S. government programs or activities related to UAP dating back to 1945, a medium for conveying such information to Arrow. However, the website's reporting mechanism was only designated for use with unclassified information, and Arrow did not include a similar reporting feature for members of the general public, which makes no sense whatsoever. In 2024, Arrow issued the first installment of a two-volume historical report.

Have you guys read that? It's been a while. I'll have to go back and read it. Which they said the office had found no evidence of legacy programs long alleged to have been involved in retrieving UAP hardware for purported crashes and other incidents over the decades. The historical report also said that Arrow had found no convincing evidence. linking UAP settings to extraterrestrial phenomena. The Pentagon said Kozlowski's new appointment will aim to, quote, minimize technical and intelligence surprise by synchronizing scientific, intelligence, and operational detection, identification, attribution, and mitigation,

and mitigation of unidentified anomalous phenomena. Hence, the Resolution Office. And this will all be done in the vicinity of national security areas. Under Dr. Kozlowski's leadership, era will continue to examine the U.S. government historical record relating to UAP, as well as efforts to declassify and release UAP-related records to the greatest extent possible. Daly says, John is a superintendent. We need him. This is what I'm hearing.

So, look, there's no getting around the fact. that a lot of people did not care for the former head of Arrow, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick. Now, while I think he did some good work, there were some problems. I don't know if it was a lack of communication, if it was preconceived notions or predeterminations, but it did seem like a lot of the individuals, and we're talking military witnesses who came to Arrow to quote unquote testify or give reports that they were brushed off, that they were ignored, specifically by Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick. And that doesn't seem to be very responsible, professional, ethical, even, I guess.

I mean, they had two-hour phone calls with some of these individuals, these witnesses, that were not recorded, why would you do a two-hour interview with someone and not record it for posterity? It just makes absolutely no sense to me. This is besides the point. I'm hearing good things about this guy. And that actually comes to us from the former head of the UAPTF,

the UAP task force. This image specifically comes to us from Stephen Green Street. And recently, Jay Stratton said of the new director, The good news is I got a text a few weeks ago from a good friend of mine who was part of the UAP Task Force, John Kozlowski. And he said, I just got the arrow job. He's good. He's trustworthy. And hopefully he can carry on my legacy.

So there you go, guys. You got the stamp of approval from Jay, who we know, you know, worked with and for and investigated some pretty interesting things, exotic things, things at Skinwalker Ranch, work with Ossap. You know, he's working with people right now at Skinwalker Ranch and stuff like that. So the guy has a very, very, very open mind. That's very clear. And the fact that he's vouching for this guy, John, that gives me some hope. Will it stick? Because I know early on in the days of Sean Kirkpatrick, a lot of people were praising him too.

And then look how that all ended. Not very well for anyone, to be completely honest. Kirkpatrick was getting threatened, like, visited. at his own home, which is absolutely reprehensible in every way, shape, and form. But also, you know, I don't think he took the job as seriously as some had hoped. Or maybe he took it too seriously. I don't know. I don't know.

But yeah, we'll see. We'll see what happens with this guy. I have hope. He reminds me so much of someone I knew in high school, a lacrosse player. I even made a tweet about it. I'm like, this do definitely play lacrosse in high school. He just has that look to me for some reason. Doesn't he?

I don't know. He reminds me so much of all the East Coast suburban white boys that I grew up with. That means nothing, probably to most of you. But yeah, yeah. Let me go in the chat and see what you guys are saying. Android, welcome, my friend. Welcome, welcome. Considering Dr. Kuzlowski,

gave a pro-disclosure government official a heads up that he got the job, then that highly indicates to me he intends to disclose anything not related to our own tech. There you go. Well said. Robert says, I'd love to see his background report. Yeah. I mean,

look, the more these people are out in the open, we now know who it is. You know people are going to be digging and probably trying to get files and documents on things people have worked on in the past. Wank, wink, wink, John Greenwald. Very toothy and chatty. What is that a

European thing? Is that a culture thing? Are you talking about me or him? I don't know what that means, Taylor. What am I missing here, Suzanne? Let me know with the private chat. What does that mean? I'm on one tonight, guys. I warned you.

Cheers. Okay. Let's move on. guys, to our next story. Oh, actually, this is going to be an interesting one. So I'm going to say that. I'm going to give you guys a little cliffhanger. We're going to take a quick break.

She likes the looks of Kozlowski. He's an attractive man. I would have to agree. He's a looker for sure. I don't think I was supposed to read that. The train has officially got off the tracks. I am so sorry for blowing up your spot. Let's take a break because I'm turning beat red

and because I just did that. And we're going to come back and talk about and talk about a very interesting story that came to light this week. You're not going to believe this, guys. What this bodyguard has to say. I'm talking about the new Arrow dude. He looks like a Chad.

Oh, no. Guys, I'll see you on the other side. Let's take a break. And we will return very shortly to somewhere in the live stream. Stick around. Hey, everyone. Ryan Sprague here, host of Somewhere in the Skies. If you've ever thought about supporting us,

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Welcome back to somewhere in the live stream, guys. And if you are just joining us, we just talked about the new head of Arrow. That was a lot of fun. Had some good laughs with that one as well. We talked about a pretty interesting survey that was done recently on UFO reports in tandem with New Fork. and a casino of all things. Talked all about annamacan, but we are going to move to this story,

which is I don't even know where to begin. It's convoluted. It's interesting. It's developing. But I thought it was worth talking about. This is big homie. That's literally his name, as far as I know. He is a celebrity bodyguard.

He has been a bodyguard for you name. name it, A-listers, politicians, ambassadors, everything you can possibly think of. And when I say everything, I mean everything. Because recently, he made a huge claim about a government official and UFOs. So recently on the No Jumper podcast, Celebrity Bodyguard Big Homi made a very interesting claim about someone who offered him a very large sum of money for protection. And the story he told was pretty interesting. So I am going to play this in full.

Hopefully we don't get a copyright strike on this, but you have to hear this to believe it. And then we're going to sort of unravel this mystery as it goes along. So go ahead and watch this clip, guys. This is a big homie on the No Jumper podcast. Again, this is for educational purposes. And yeah, yeah, let's give this a watch. And we will talk about it on the other side and get your thoughts as well. Enjoy.

I'm a guy. He wanted to, this is 2012. He wanted to meet me at a place called Lux Bar. He said he had a job for me. The job was paying $52,000 for $5,000 for $5,000. days up front, you get the entire payment. Right? That's a good deal.

Yeah, okay. Also, why the fuck would they pay you up front? Listen to this. I meet up with the guy. He shows me an ID from the Pentagon. He tells me that he does not trust certain people that he works with and that he needs me to keep him safe until he can testify in front of Congress. Oh, wow.

Right? So then he says, Keith, I want you to look at this. Red flag off top because how do you know my name? I never told you my name. Okay. He could have heard from somebody else, et cetera, et cetera. He shows me some pictures. He said, what does this look like to you?

I'm like, man, looks like a desert of some sort. You know, I see like some trucks. you feel of me? He says, okay, so it's just like a truck to you? Some type of plow truck, something like that. He says, well, according to these measurements, this truck is two miles long. So I'm like, what? Okay.

He asked me some more questions, show me some more stuff. Another one was like a, uh, looked like a, um, a protractor or something. A two mile long truck. what he said. Very confusing. All right. So I say, okay, so what am I looking at? He says, these pictures are on the surface of the moon.

He said, my job is to scrub these pictures to make them available to get released to the public. So I'm like, okay. Then he asked me to sign an NDA. He pulled out a little folder, unfold the paper, and say, when they sign an NDA. I always try to avoid that because to me it's like you're agreeing or something. Right. Then the guy goes on to explain to me about some race of people who live at the bottom of the ocean. They have facilities there.

And when I refuse this job, sounds like a little mermaid, but until you hear these parts. Okay. I refuse the gig. He tells me someone's occupying our moon, our moon. I'm scheduled to testify as a whistleblower in front of Congress about this. Can you keep me safe until then? I had to turn the job down because soon as I go outside, my car ransacked.

My car for about three weeks, my car get told. I go and pick it up. They give it to me for free. Then a lot of strange things was happening. You see what I'm saying? And, you know, this guy testified in front of Congress. And is he still alive? Yep.

Sounds like if they were willing to do all that to you, that they would be willing to kill him too. Or something to him. Yeah. So, you know, he has something called like a dead man script. So, like, if he was to die unexpectedly, some type of information would get released. So apparently that's what kept him alive throughout that process. Oh, that's smart. You know who Luis Elizander?

is? No. Oh. Who's that? Luis Elizondo is a former CIA operative who just testified, him and his coworkers are testified in front of Congress about

the same shit I'm just telling you about. Really? Who is it? What is going on? Okay, so people started picking up on this and I'm watching the chat very closely,

guys, like you. I'm extremely, hesitant with this story. A lot of it, there's some discrepancies, as I'm seeing in the chat. We'll get to that. Gary, there you go, my man. So, before we get to who that individual possibly was, he did mention Luis Elizondo in this interview. And there were people who actually edited these clips down.

it made it sound like big homie was actually talking about Luis Elizondo. And, you know, if you're kind of not up on all of this like a lot of us are, you would know that Alizondo has never spoken before Congress. Elizando has never talked about, you know, things, structures on the moon or anything like that. So it clearly was not Elizondo. What is interesting, though, is when Elizado heard about this, he actually tweeted this response. someone was like, was this you? And he said, Lull never spoke to the dude, but got to get props to a clever imagination. I actually thought this was a joke until some folks said people were taking

this seriously. For the record, this never happened, but it is funny. Now, the way I'm interpreting this is Elizander saying that it never happened with him. He's not saying that big homie is, you know, making this up or that this, that none of this ever happened. He's merely saying, I am not, I'm not the guy. I am not the guy. But who was the guy? Who was the guy? So recently,

the vetted podcast hosted by Patrick Scott, I want to get his name right, Patrick Scott, who hosts the vetted podcast, he covered this story. He did a whole YouTube video on it. He showed probably less than I did, So I'm probably going to get a copyright strike on that. But he did show some of the big homie interview.

And Big homie himself would actually go into the comment section of the Vetted podcast YouTube video and comment, which was pretty interesting. And this is what he said. Everything that I said in this interview is the 100% fact. And I stand by it. Speaking to this man whose last name was Wolf, with a little bit of. and E changed my worldview and had an effect on my life. If anyone wants to debate me on the facts, I'm here 100. So Wolf.

Who is Wolf? So the story continues to unravel. Patrick of the Vetted Podcast would go on to do some more research. And he believes that he knows who it is. And I did see a couple of people mention it. in the chat. He and others believe that this is a gentleman named Carl Wolf. And Wolf testified at the National Press Club back in 2001 as part of the Disclosure Project. So, you know, the timetables are off on a lot of these things.

At first, I'm like, was big homie thinking that maybe the National Press Club event put on by Stephen Greer through the disclosure project that that was testifying before Congress? but then he said that he was approached in 2012, I think he said, but that event was in 2001. There was that, what was that other thing? It was like that mock congressional hearing that Stephen Bassett put on. I don't remember the timetable on that. Could it have been something like that? Or was this guy literally going to testify before members of Congress and nobody knew about it? I don't know. I don't know. It's all very interesting. But what I want to do now is actually play a clip from that National Press Club event of Carl Wolf. So you get an idea of who this individual is and maybe why this is who Nacomi was talking about. So let me go ahead and play that for you guys. And then we'll close this story out.

Good morning. My name is Carl Wolf. And I was a precision electronics photographic repairman with the top. secret crypto clearance in the United States Air Force. I was stationed at Langley Air Force Base in Virginia. In 1965, in mid-1965, I was loaned to the Lunar Orbiter Project at NASA on Langley Field. Dr. Colley was in charge of that project. They had problems with a piece of electronic equipment that was bottlenecking their production of photographs. I went to the facility and when I walked into the facility, there were scientists from all over the world. I was stunned actually to see people at a NASA project from all over the world. It didn't make any sense to me initially.

I was taken into the laboratory where the equipment was malfunctioning. I couldn't repair it in the dark. I asked to have it remove. A airman second class was in the dark room at that time. I was also an Airman second class. I was interested how the whole process functioned, how the data got from the lunar orbiter to the laboratory, asked the young man if he described the process to me.

He did. About 30 minutes into the process, he said to me, in a very distressed way, by the way, we've discovered a base on the backside of the moon. And then he proceeded to put photographs down in front of me and clearly in these photographs were structures, mushroom-shaped buildings, spherical buildings, and towers. And at that point, I was very concerned because I knew we were working on compartmentalized security. He had breached security, and I was actually frightened at that moment, and I did not question him any further.

And a few moments later, someone did come into the room. I worked there for three more days, and I remember going home and naively thinking, I can't wait to hear about this on the evening. news. And here it is more than 30 years later, and I hope we hear about it tonight. And I will testify under oath before Congress that what I'm saying is the truth. This episode is brought to you by Netflix. Most valuable promotions in Netflix are hosting a blockbuster triple headliner Saturday, May 16th. Rhonda Rousey returns to face fellow woman's MMA pioneer Gina Carrano in the main event. Plus co-main's Nate Diaz versus Mike Perry. And the best have you wait in the world, Francis Ngano versus Felipe Lens.

Watch Ronda Rousey versus Gina Carano. Live only on Netflix. Saturday, May 16th at 9 p.m. Eastern Center time, 6 p.m. Pacific time. He said I will testify before Congress. Witness protection is not feeling it. He's a crackpot. A lot of you don't believe Big Homi either. I totally get it.

I get it. All of it. It's an interesting developing story. but it you know with the things that Carl was saying they do sort of line up with the stuff that Big Homie was saying too so man I don't know it's interesting nonetheless

the latest update that I got on all of this is that Big Homie is actually going to be on the vetted podcast in the coming day week I'm not exactly sure but to sort of expand on a lot of this stuff so hopefully we'll get more clarification. I know even Patrick himself had some issues and discrepancies

with the claims by, by not Wolf, but big homie. And I'm sure he will bring those up in the interview. But yeah, sort of the tragic end, I guess, to this story is that Carl Wolf actually died tragically in New York. He died at the age of 74. a very terrible bicycle accident, actually. So, you know, that got a lot of the conspiracy theorists going that was he, was he off? Because he knew the truth. I'm not going there. I never go there.

Says the guy who wrote an article about mysterious deaths in the UFO field. Wow, that was a contradiction right there. That being said, in this case, I do not believe that anything. nefarious happened other than just a horrible, horrible accident to Carl Wolf. But all this being said, maybe he actually believes all this. Maybe all of this actually happened to him. He was shown these things. And he feared so much for his life that he wanted to hire someone to protect him.

In case that day came where he did testify in front of Congress. I don't know. Or maybe it's not this guy at all. We have to keep that in mind. to. Maybe none of this is real. But it's an interesting story. Nonetheless, hello to Michael Huntington. That bodyguard wants to be a celebrity and is joining the UFO game. He is well in it now.

Big homie is the next big Stevie Greer. It's going to start doing CE5s. I love it. Gareth says, oh, oh, wait, Daly says, Oh, top secret crypto positive vetting, that's Situis. Gareth said, big homie, sounds like a guy whose story is all over the place. I'd actually believe it. He obviously has no interest in the phenomenon.

LSC would be more careful what he was saying regarding names. That's true. He's throwing names out there, which is if you're going to, you have to know that if you're going to start some elaborate story or hoax and you put names out there, People are going to dig and they're going to vet. And hopefully that's what Patrick will be doing on the vetted podcast. So yeah, yeah, I think that's the end of that story, guys. We will see if any more of this unfolds.

But let's move to our last news story. Then I just have two brief clips for you, I promise. We talked about how many Americans believe in UFOs. And we can then sort of translate into globally. you know, no matter where you live outside of the United States as well. This growth in the belief in UFOs, in other, in a non-human intelligence, let's say. And that this is being covered up by primarily the U.S. government, but possibly the Five Eyes Alliance, other countries as well. Breathe, Ryan.

There we go. And how that belief can sometimes be detrimental, even dangerous. And there was an interesting paper that was written recently, and it was highlighted in Newsweek. And the title was, growing belief in UFOs is dangerous political tsunami. So let me pull this up here in a moment. In the U.S., belief in UFO sightings as evidence of alien life has surged from 20% in 1996 to 34% in 2022. With 24% of Americans reporting, they have seen a UFO, according to a 2022 U.gov poll of over 1,000 U.S. adult citizens. In short, this belief is no longer confined to the fringes.

And I'm sure that's only grown since probably 2017 and moving forward into 2024. In a recent study accepted for publication in the proceedings of the International Astronomical Union, Tony Milligan, philosopher and senior research fellow at King's College in London, England, said that the belief in alien visitors has evolved into a widespread societal concern. Milligan would say, quote, when you're dealing with populism or this highly specialized variant of populism, you're dealing with a wave, a political tsunami. And Milligan highlights the shift gaining such momentum that it is now influencing political discourse, particularly in the United States, where the topic has garnered.

bipartisan attention. He would also say, quote, you don't worry about this stuff when it's 2% of the population, but you don't expect it to be reaching the floors of Congress, which it has on more than one occasion in the U.S.

Milligan would go on to say the following, and this is where it gets really interesting for me and I hope for you guys. There's Tony Milligan, the philosopher. He says, there are three primary dangers associated with the mainstream acceptance of these alien visitation narratives. The first is an erosion of trust in government and institutions. The widespread belief in government cover-ups related to UFOs held by over 60% of Americans undermines trust in public institutions.

This erosion of trust can have far-reaching consequences for democratic governance and is part of the wider problem of populism. Secondly, the incorporation of UFO narratives into indigenous storytelling poses a risk to the preservation of original cultural meanings. Fragments of the earliest tales are still there within indigenous storytelling. And along comes this UFO visitation narrative, and it starts to overwrite that stuff. As these alien narratives gain validation, the true cultural significance of indigenous stories may be lost.

And finally, the proliferation of alien visitation tales creates noise that detracts from genuine scientific inquiry. At a time when scientists are making significant strides towards discovering microbial life beyond her, a potential milestone in human history, these conspiracy theories risk obscuring serious scientific efforts. These tales create so much background noise, that it gets in the way of legitimate science communication.

None of these things are good for democratic societies. They're all bad and they're all growing. Political figures should take a stand against the spread of alien visitation beliefs. And they should protect scientific integrity and preserve authentic indigenous stories. We can try and accelerate the process of recording stories that are transmitted orally. before it becomes impossible further down the line to disentangle what's authentic from what's not authentic. You can't stop the wave. There's so much to unpack with this.

We don't have time here. I can see why this guy is a philosopher. I want to go to point two, the indigenous thing. He's completely right on that. I struggle every day with the fact that I have been featured prominently on the show Ancient Aliens. And I'm not defending myself. I'm stating a fact I never speak about indigenous people. I never talk about ancient alien theory on that show.

I was brought in throughout several seasons now to talk about modern day uphology, the things going on now. The closest I came to sort of ancient alien stuff was a story about Egypt, but it had nothing to do with like alien intervention or building the pyramids or anything like that. But I do agree that we cannot strip creation stories, the oral traditions, the culture of indigenous people in order to inject our own possible extraterrestrial narrative. Now, you go back into any, pretty much any, indigenous culture, and there is a form of other, or, you know, whether it's gods or or or some sort of non-human interaction with something, star people, you name it. It's pretty prevalent throughout every indigenous culture.

So that's not to say it's not happening and it hasn't happened. But a lot of this comes down to interpretation again or religious beliefs, everything, everything. But I do agree, tend to agree with them on that point. Point one in terms of this undermines governance and our trust in institutions. I take some issue with that. They've done that themselves. they are the ones who have made the public not trust them. And it's only gotten worse,

especially in the United States of America. The government has failed the people so many times and so many things that it's impossible to trust pretty much any institution nowadays. Will that trust ever be gained back? I don't know. I honestly don't know.

but when it comes to the UFO narrative, I guess, I don't know what you want to call it. They've done a pretty bad job of being transparent on all of that. Have they made strides, possibly? Is a lot of what Arrow is doing good? Yes, absolutely. But for every one of those good cases that they explain, what's out there that they're willing to just push away? Because a personal belief or stigma or, again, preconceived notion, I don't know. So I find an issue with number one.

What trust do we have left to give these institutions? Point three, it also is bad for scientific inquiry. I get that. I understand that. But at the same time, like, we need dreamers. We need philosophers. like Tony. While we need to be grounded,

we also have to continue looking somewhere in the skies. We need to dream. We need to wonder. We have to have ambition of what could be out there and ask hard questions. You look at someone like Avi Lope

who has been shunned by many mainstream scientists, colleagues, friends for the work he's doing. And he's a scientist. He's using the scientific method. He's creating observatories. He's trying to do what mainstream science wants. So I don't know. I struggle with that one too. It's an interesting article. I highly suggest

people check out the paper. I have put a link in the show notes to it. So you can read that there. So definitely check that out. I also put a link to the vetted podcast if you want to continue this further story on Big Homi as well. So be sure to subscribe. there. But yeah, I thought that was kind of a story that would bring us back down to the ground and, you know, kind of look at the power of belief and where we're at today. I want to know what you guys think. I'm going up into the chat for this. Michael Huntington says, we need to define UFOs versus alien visitation. Amen to that. They cannot be lumped together. They should not be lumped together. Gary says he should read Artie Sixth Killer.

Clark's work, absolutely Gary. I could not agree more. Those books are fantastic. If you guys want to read about indigenous interactions with possible star people and UFOs, I cannot recommend those books enough. So good. I should mention too that in the coming weeks I will be interviewing Stan Milford, who is one of the Navajo paranormal Rangers. He has a new book coming out in the coming month or so, I believe in mid-October, actually. And we were very honored to get one of the first interviews with Stan Milford, who will be coming on somewhere in the skies very soon. So if you have any questions for Stan Milford of the paranormal Rangers, you may have seen him on Unsolved Mysteries, email me. Email is in the show notes. I think we'll have it up on the screen as well at some point tonight.

I would love your listener questions for Stan Milford. And he has looked a lot into, you know, indigenous things, whether it's Bigfoot, UFO, supernatural, you name it. He's investigated it on reservations and off of them as well. And I've read the first few chapters of the book already. And he goes into, you know, his connections to the Navajo and his upbringing. And it's fascinating, even outside of the whole UFO parents. normal things. So I can't wait for you guys to read the book and I can't wait for your listener questions for Stan. Boom. He's here, guys. Papa Sprague saying hello. Just got home home.

Welcome, Dad. Welcome back to the live chat. I know everyone's going to be super excited to see you. There it goes. Boom, boom, boom. Hi, Douglas. Hi, Doug. Love it. Greetings, Papa Sprag. Hopperg, hoping you are well. Thanks for hopping in, Dad. Truly appreciate it. Got to talk to him for a while today and cherish every single moment I can. That's for damn sure. And yeah, if you haven't watched, go back into the live stream archives. Doug Spurg was on the show when I was home in New York. So you can watch us interact and we talked all about UFOs and stuff on that.

You'll see him in the thumbnail for the episode. So you can go back and look for that. It was so much fun, so so much fun. All right, guys. two more very brief things, I promise you. And then we're going to close things out here. We're going on an hour 30. That's a long one.

That's extremely kind of you, Terrence. Thank you. Very, very sweet of you. Let me go to the start things. Make sure I didn't miss anything. Let's see here. Zeg says, I think philosophy should be taught in school, starting in grammar school.

Agreed. Get those minds thinking. I feel like the education system is so, it's in a rough spot. It's all about, you know, getting them points on those tests, making sure your school is the one with the most successful students in terms of like testing.

And there's very little discourse in the classrooms anymore, I feel. In my day. But yes, we need more philosophers and dreamers in the world. I like the beard. Thanks, Doug. I get it from you. Go lions, baby.

Why my father is a Detroit Lions fan still is more enigmatic and mystifying than UFOs itself. I swear. Gotcha, Doug. All right. So, talked a little about the moon. What was it? A two mile wide, long truck, big homie said was on the moon? Carl talked a little about the moon

and his disclosure project thing. I want to talk about the moon landing conspiracy. What do you guys think? Was it? Did we go to the moon? Is what I'm asking you. Oh, I forgot we did a poll, too. Over on YouTube.

Let me check that out. It was about Big Homie. I asked, is the bodyguard big homie's story true? 16, this is out of 80 votes. 16% of you said, yes, 8% of you said no. 53% of you said too early to tell. 23% of you said, don't care, drink your beer. All right. Well, it is too early to tell. And for the 23% of you, cheers. Oh, man, that's good. I know probably a lot of you can't get this. Maybe in Europe. I can't even read the back. I tried. It's all in German.

So this is fun. There was a, I mean, these are all over the place. If you're on TikTok and stuff, which I think I am, I don't remember the last time I've even gone over to TikTok. There's a lot of people who do like conspiracy theory TikToks and specifically moon landing conspiracy TikToks. And recently there was, there's a comm specialist and STEM space influence. that I follow. Her name is at Astro-Alexandra. And she does these great TikToks,

kind of debunking a lot of conspiracy theories about space and clarifying a lot of the stories that come out about space, whether it's like the things they found on Mars or the gases found her on Venus or, you know, when we get so excited about, is this alien life?

And then it turns out, you know, there are much more prosaic explanations and whatnot. Um, wow. Suzanne just informed me, we're up to 500 people watching. That's incredible. Thank you guys. Thank you for watching.

I truly appreciate you spending your Sunday evening with us. It means the world to us. So thank you. Thank you for being here. Um, so yeah, Ela Jensen touched these great videos, kind of debunking things,

crystallizing things. And this is her. I want to show you this because I think it's really funny. Um, her responding to a moon landing conspiracy video. Let's add things on a lighter note, I guess, right? I do have one more clip after that, because I did put a image of Elizondo in our featured

image, so I would have to show something from Elizondo, right? He's been all over the place, so we will do that. But watch this quick video about debunking the conspiracy of us not landing on the moon. So, fucking to me. Here you go. The guy's getting off the rocket ship. Who the f*** is filming them? Who's filming them?

I got it. So the camera was mounted inside the lander in a compartment called the Mesa. And when the lunar lander landed on the moon, Neil Armstrong from inside the lander pulled a lever and that deployed the Mesa. The Mesa is where some of the equipment was. So here it is. And it's pointed that way right at the ladder. And this is what the camera looked like mounted inside of that. No cameraman, just engineering.

Look, how did that core fit in the rocket ship? I think this is an incredible question. The car, the rover, folded up. And when astronauts were on the moon, they deployed it. There's video of it. Very cool. Then the guy's floating around with a big cord to his stomach. And they're telling you that's his fucking, oh, life support. What's it get? Was it eating him through the tube like a baby? No, the astronauts ate inside of the lunar lander. The hose is for, like, breathing and air purposes. And bouncing around like a fuck off. Yeah, watch. Let me show you. So you agree. It's not Earth gravity. They're bouncing around.

There it goes. Bye-bye. You know what? I'm going to stay behind. You guys go back to Earth. I'll die up here. And how did he get the film back to Earth? So the takeoff from the moon was actually filmed by a camera on the lunar rover, which was pre-programmed to lift up and then pan to try to follow them as they took off from the moon. And the film didn't have to get back to Earth because it wasn't film. It was live transmitted back to Earth. That's how people saw the landing live. And yes, the camera is still on the moon. Oh my God. That is every construction worker I ever passed in Queens for over 10 years of living in New York City. I love it. I love that guy, whoever he is. But I even more appreciate and love the work Alexandria did on clarifying a lot of that for us. I study some space history. My content says, agreed, agreed.

of wow. I go follow her guys. Again, it's at Astro Alexandra. She's on TikTok, her everything. She does a lot of short videos like this that are both fun, entertaining, and that was definitely the funniest one. I've seen, bye, goodbye, how are they going to get the video back? How are they going to get back? I'm terrible at accents. Jane can attest to that. It's a hoax. It's a hoax. Hate to break your his protection says. Hey, believe what you want to believe. My conspiracy was ruined alien bucks says. Jeffrey says, I like the conspiracy that Stanley Kubler faked it,

then gave subtle clues to the fact throughout the Shining movie. The NASA shirt Danny is wearing is one scene in one scene. Oh, interesting. Oh, yeah, I do remember Danny wearing that. I love that movie. there was a movie that's out right now. I think it's called Fly Me to the Moon. Has anyone seen it?

I was thinking of going. Like, I don't know, do a matinee or something, if it's still even playing. It's a comedy with, I think, Channing Tatum and Scarlett Johansson, if I'm getting those names right. And it's about us faking the moon landing. It's a total comedy.

But it looked really cute. It looked fun. and I'm interested to see how they handle all of that. So my personal thoughts on the whole moon landing conspiracy, Spector Sybil, I wonder if he can see Twitter. I can. Welcome, Spector. Welcome, Spector, Sybil. Welcome to our show.

And I'm so happy you're joining us from Twitch because I didn't know if those comments made it over here. But you are a guinea pig and it worked. So thank you. Thank you so much for being here. Spector Civil. I believe, gosh, it was probably at least two, three years now. That makes a feel a Specter. That I had you on the October edition of Somewhere in the Skies for spooky season. So if you guys go back, you can definitely find that episode for sure. It was a lot of fun, for sure. What was I saying? Oh, yeah. My thoughts on the moon landing. We went to the moon.

I'm at least that's what I personally believe. I definitely believe we went to the moon. What I think is possible is that they were so paranoid that the video transported back or broadcast back might be so bad that it would be like unerable. Or maybe something really bad could happen or would happen or would happen. happen even, that they wanted a contingency plan. There was no way in hell that the United States was not going to be the first to land on the moon. That was never up for debate. They would make damn sure of that, even if they did have to fake it. But that's to say, I don't think they faked the moon landing. I think it's possible that they may, and I'm really going on on a limb here, this total speculation.

Maybe they filmed something, a staged version, just in case, you know, kind of like Saturday Night Live. They do a rehearsal before they go live and they tape it because sometimes the actual sketch rehearsed sketches on SNL are funnier or the audience is better or the actors are better in the rehearsal that they're like, oh my God, we can insert that later into the live broadcast because it's so much better. So who knows? Who knows?

It's just a thought. It's just a theory. But yeah, I love that clip. I will watch that clip forever. God bless that conspiracy theory. TikTok New Yorker or New Jersey. I'm not sure which. Thank you, Suzanne.

Putting that up there. 2021, Spector, really? Oh, my God. I feel so old. Okay, guys. I promise you. We're at the tail end here. We have a clip from the recent That UFO podcast interview with Luis Elizando.

And it's a pretty good interview. I highly suggest you guys go listen to it. Andy was able to ask Elizondo some questions that a lot of these other sort of, I guess, mainstream outlets haven't been able to do. And it's clear that Andy did that on purpose. Like, why cover the same damn things over and over and over again? So a lot of people wanted to know Elizander's thoughts on the claims made by Ross Colthart about a massive giant, big, huge, huge, giant, massive, ginormous UFO being hidden somewhere. So big that a building had to be built around it to hide it.

Where is it? Where is it? Pine Gap, a lot of people believe. Look it up, Pine Gap. that's my guess right now. That being said, Andy did ask Elizando's thoughts on it, and it's an interesting response, and I want to get you guys thoughts on it.

So let's end with this clip from that UFO podcast. Andy McGarland, Luis Elizondo, give this a watch. Ross Coltart, who you know well, and you've done a wonderful interview with on News Nation, and he's carved out a wonderful niche for himself through News Nation, and his reality check show. People should check that one out. discussed a while back a UFO so big that it couldn't be moved and was actually built over, Lou,

and it's still used to this day as a working build. And then I wonder, was that something you had heard of at the time? And how common could that be? I unfortunately cannot discuss that. I have to be very careful. I can discuss what is in the book because I have approval to do that. What you are referring to is something that I would not be able to confirm or deny. And let me be very clear with that.

cannot elaborate at all. If someone else has elaborated on it, that's fine. I have not been given any permission to discuss anything like that. Help me then, because on a similar tact and it's my next question anyway, shapes

often discussed as well as size, but on Joe Rogan, you mentioned a USO, so underwater, you know, UFO basically, so big that it was the size of a small city block captured off an oil rig. So some people are going to hear this, and I'm used to the UFO conversation, but wonder why you can mention that, but not potentially the UFO under the building?

Because I'm not discussing sources and methods. I'm not discussing capabilities or locations. I'm not discussing an actual program. I'm discussing simply what was observed. You know, you're asking me to confirm or deny something, the existence of something. I don't have permission to do that. What I can do is simply say from my personal observations, I have seen video of an event, right? But I'm not saying where that event is, under what circumstance, what collection capabilities, where that place was, how long ago it was,

I'm not giving any of that. It's just anecdotal. And so that in itself isn't classified. If I give you detail, so that I could get serious trouble. So I'm very careful not to do that. So I know people get, frustrated, myself included with

these claims by Ross Colthard, by David Grush, by Luis Elizondo, when they say things like this. Like, I can't go any further on that. You know, I can't talk about that. I was not given permission.

I get the frustration. I do. I feel it too. I honestly do. I understand the source and method sort of thing, that by giving a location to something,

it could potentially risk national security. If we know where this thing is being cited and we know how it was captured with what, it could potentially give information to adversaries on the technology we're using as sensor systems or spy drones or, geospatial satellite things, radar, whatever. I ain't no techie.

But all that being said, I get that. I get that. So I think it was a way to dodge the question, but in a very logical way. Like Lou can't divulge the information on where this massive UFO is because maybe he doesn't even know. Maybe he's never spoken to this individual that Ross Kothart has, or maybe none of it's true at all. I'm just saying that.

I'm not, I have no opinion either way until more data and information is brought forward. So yeah, yeah. There were some other clips out there floating around from Andy's interview, one where Lou talks all about the Chinese balloons. those incidents, which was an interesting answer. I highly suggest people go watch or listen to that interview for that. I know Lou's done a ton of other ones. He did name, I believe it was Lockheed Martin being an installation where UFO material was once housed, but might not be anymore. So we got that whole thing going on where a lot of this stuff is being moved around once the public either finds out about it.

or, you know, that certain place has done what they want with it. So, yeah. And then there was one other thing. I don't have a clip or anything from it, but I think is worth checking out. And that was the latest episode of Weaponized with Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp. We probably have some haters in here of their work. And look, again, I'm just saying what's out there, guys. They talked about what OSAP was used for.

And I found it pretty interesting that George Knapp talked about, and this is through the work of Lakatsky and those who worked in Ossap, that one of the sole purposes that Ossap was created was because there was a craft, a recovered craft, and that they potentially wanted it moved to wherever Ossap was working out of. and they wanted to study and investigate this craft. You know, I guess that didn't work out or it didn't happen. I don't know. I don't know. But I found that interesting that that was one of the reasons. And there was another part in the interview where George Knapp specifically admits that he was told, I shouldn't say specifically amidst, he was told that there is a fully intact craft. that members of the United States military and government have been able to gain access inside of.

100%. He's saying that that is accurate, that that is at least what he was told. So if we are to take whoever told him that with a grain of salt, then that has happened. We have been inside a UFO, apparently. So all interesting, all speculative, all up for debate, obviously, as all of this always is. welcome to Euphology. Go check out all of the interviews, guys.

I don't even have time, enough time to mention how many Elizondo was done in the past couple weeks, and it will probably continue to do. But there's a bunch of documentaries coming out about UFOs in the coming weeks, months. So check those out, including one coming next year by one Ryan Sprague.

So stay tuned for that as well. I should have more information. as that unravels. But that's going to do it, guys. From me to you, this was a jam-packed episode of somewhere in the live stream. I want to thank all of you for joining us again this Sunday evening.

Again, a very special hello to all of our regulars, all our new people. We have more people watching this. We've clearly gained some new followers from Anomicon, so welcome. Welcome to all of you. We're so glad to have you here. I hope you enjoyed us breaking down. All of the latest UFO

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I think that's it. My special thanks as always to Suzanne for doing a wonderful job in the chat for hopping on with us and giving our thoughts on a nomicon. Again, go back, watch Nomicon day one, day two are available in perpetuity. The last three presentations of each day, were unfortunately cut off due to YouTube's maximum time for archived live streams. But I have released almost all of those presentations, the last three presentations from each day, individually on the Anamicon playlist.

So check that out as well. And last but not least, I promise. We now are the official home of the bite-sized UFOs show with Graham Rendell. If you are not subscribed to the YouTube channel of Graham Rendell, go check it out right now. Bite-sized UFOs. Subscribe. Hit the like button. Watch the videos.

Graham goes through historical UFO cases in like 10 minutes or less. They're so easy to just digest on a commute or while you're doing the dishes or anything, literally anything. You can hear about a historical UFO case that you probably have never heard of before. and all of these come from Graham's wonderful, wonderful books as well. But we are now the official home of the audio podcast version of bite-sized UFOs. We have dropped the premiere episode right on the main feed of the podcast. So I hope you'll go check that out.

It is titled The UFOs Over Portland. And yeah, that's available on the main feed. And all of bite-sized UFOs will be available on the main feed. Every two weeks will be dropping those episodes. So go listen to that. Subscribe to Graham's amazing bite size UFO's YouTube channel and be on the lookout for more episodes coming in the near future. And dropping in literally an hour,

the Black Triangles reports from New Fork. We're doing it, guys. We're going back to the Black Triangles. This is the mother effer I saw when I was 12 years old in upstate New York. And you're going to hear about others who, have seen this as well. These are the raw hotline reports that came into New Fork back in the 70s. So you're going to hear from the witnesses themselves about these black triangles over 10 cases of them. Some of them are very startling. I had a lot of trouble editing this episode because I was too spooked out.

To be honest, the black triangles just scare me for obvious reasons. So, yeah. Dayland says, I have to get my black triangle. I have seen a black triangle as well. Michael says, interesting, man. I don't think we've ever talked about that. You'll have to tell me more. You'll have to tell me more. Be on the lookout for that episode, dropping very soon, guys, on the main feed as well. Like, subscribe, all that YouTubey stuff. Do it now. Please. I love you. Thank you. And that's going to do it for somewhere in the live stream. And yeah, yeah, I'll have more info on everything I'm doing with the ghost hunting stuff coming very soon as well.

So be on the lookout for that. What year was your event, Ryan? It was in 1995, Android, 1995, central New York, off the St. Lawrence River. All right. Just making sure I got everything here. Wait, I have 10 more stories for you guys. No, I'm just kidding.

I'm kidding. Let's get out of here. Have a wonderful night. And I will see you next week. And yeah, yeah. Be on the lookout for Black Triangles in just an hour. Thank you, thank you. and I'll leave you with our mantra as always, guys.

Keep your feet on the ground, but never stop searching somewhere in disguise. Take care. There's nothing to hide at all.