Somewhere in the Skies - UFO Lockdown with Dave Foley, Jeremy Corbell, and UFO Jane

Episode Date: May 4, 2020

On episode 159 of SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES, UFO Jane of the Weird UFO Show takes the hosting seat for an epic panel discussion with actor/comedian, Dave Foley, investigative filmmaker, Jeremy Corbell, and of course... Ryan! The panel originally aired during a special fifteen hour-long virtual UFO lockdown event created, curated, and hosted by UFO Jane. In this panel, the group discuss the Navy UFO videos, the process of belief versus the acceptance of facts and evidence, and of course with Jeremy on-hand, we get a crash course on Bob Lazar and the theories behind his anti-gravity work during his time working at S-4, a sub-site of Area 51. Dave Foley also puts a critical eye on comedians and their role in ridiculing the UFO topic since the beginning of the modern UFO era. Of... and the conversation heads down other unexpected roads as the entire group navigate their way through and uncensored and wild ride during UFO Lockdown!  To watch the video version of this panel, subscribe to the UFO Jane YouTube channel and watch HERE Special Thanks to UFO Jane and Glurp the Alien for all their hard work on an amazing event. Learn more about UFO Lockdown at: www.ufolockdown.com Website: www.somewhereintheskies.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/somewhereskies YouTube Channel: CLICK HERE Official Store: CLICK HERE Order Ryan's Book by CLICKING HERE Twitter: @SomewhereSkies Instagram: @SomewhereSkiesPod Watch Mysteries Decoded for free at www.CWseed.com Episode edited by Jane Palomera Moore Opening Theme Song, "Ephemeral Reign" by Per Kiilstofte SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES is part of the eOne podcast network. To learn more, CLICK HERE Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/somewhere-in-the-skies. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Terms apply. You know, you can pretty much go through and look at any huge UFO event over the last 40, 50, 60 years and tune in whatever comedian was speaking at the time and find them making jokes about it, depicting UFO experiencers as lunatics and feeding it back to people and making it impossible for people to come forward because they're terrified of being ridiculed by people like me. So comedians have had a lot to do with the suppression of the real data over the last 70 years. And I feel like as a comedian, I kind of want to point that out to people, especially people who do comedy like I do. And so to get them to think about it in a little more clever and knowledgeable way. This is Somewhere in the Skies with Ryan Sprague. Hey guys, Ryan Sprague here. A little context for this week's episode.

This was a virtual panel I took part in, hosted by UFOJ over at the Weird UFO Show on YouTube. She pulled off an entire day of UFO. content from 9 a.m. to 11 p.m. and it was epic. It was called the UFO lockdown. There was live alien theme music, one-on-one interviews, live tarot card readings, flying humanoid, encrypted talk, and of course, UFOs. There was also a really fascinating conversation with past somewhere in the sky's guest and quantum computing CEO Deep Brasad. So be sure to go over to the UFO Jane YouTube channel and check out all of the archived content over there right now. So the main event of the night was a panel I was honored to take part in, hosted by UFO

Jane and featuring investigative filmmaker Jeremy Corbell and actor-comedian Dave Foley. We talked about everything from the Navy UFO videos to Bob Lazar, an anti-gravidic theory. Then we went deep into the perception of UFOs by the mainstream. And perception in general when it comes to seeing is believing, and believing is seen. And then we just go full on with consciousness. So get ready to think, theorize, and to take a super fun ride with us. If you want to watch the video version of this panel, it's available on the UFOJ YouTube channel as well. But here we go right now with UFO lockdown uncensored.

That's awesome. There's a bit of a delay. I just got the Ivers. At home, we are alive, but it's just like real live TV. There's a bit of a delay, but there's no bleep button. No, well, let's talk. Watch the language. Shit.

God damn it. I should have worn a different shirt. That's like baby swearing compared to what I like. Well, hey, hey, we're live. So let's just, I'm, everybody has their own group of people that have come to this live stream. So I do want to give you a proper intro. And just of course, before we start out, just

thank you. Thank you for being here. Everybody here is doing this for free. Everybody who has participated in the UFO Lockdown Fest has done it for free. Shops giving out discounts, the giveaways. Thank you to everybody who's here watching, who's joining

joining the live chat. This has just been amazing. And we'll continue for the folks at home. We'll do the proper introduction to They're well-deserved. And so we've got Ryan Sprague. So he's UFO author, researcher, has a very popular podcast somewhere in the skies. And then, of course, Dave Foley doesn't need an introduction.

But, you know, like, I'll try. You know him from news radio, kids in the hall, writer, director, producer, and our home fondly know him as Flick from Abug's Life and Principal McIntyre. And it's always sunny. Thank you so much for being here. Jeremy will be hopefully joining us soon. Oh, I need to let him in. He's knocking. Okay.

Okay. Sorry about that. I got it figured out. Can you hear me okay? Yeah. Let's start the UFO Jane show. Let's do it. No, no, no.

I want to get out of it. Yeah, this is all you guys. And we were just about to intro you, Jeremy. Okay. What's going on? I can hear perfect. Yeah. So perfect timing. So here we have Jeremy Corbell, amazing filmmaker. You've got Bob Lazar, UFOs, and Flying Saucers that is still on Netflix. Yeah, Bob Lazar, Area 51, and Flying Saucers is still on Netflix. I don't need that in a criticizing way. I'm just used to seeing things come and go.

And people are obviously watching it again. Nothing's going to go from Netflix for a while now. Yeah, that's true. Netflix is the entertainment industry, especially about UFOs. It's going to be kind of real lacking for a while. Netflix picked up Babazar Area 51 and Flying Saucers for probably at least another year, one more year. Hunt for the Skinwalker is on Hulu, and you can find all my films obviously just on all pay-per-view platforms. But yeah, UFOs are having to run.

You know, the world has changed recently about the top. as we all know. I just want to, first of all, thank everybody who's joining us. Jane, set this up, set up this whole day of UFOs. Ryan, great to see you. We're all fans of your work. And Dave Foley, who's got a lot to stay on the UFO topic and somebody I really like here, talk about it. So, yeah, thanks for having me. Really excited. I'm glad a lot of people are tuning in. And thank you guys. And thank you, everybody, for joining.

We've got a nice crowd here. So, I'll read, so how are you, it's interesting that, like you said, people are locked into Netflix. They're locked into their homes. We're all locked in. How are you guys holding up right now? Are you still interested in UFOs right now? That seems like an obvious question. But maybe it's not.

I mean, how are your feelings, Dave, on UFOs since everything's happened? Well, it's weird because I, yeah, I, because. I've been very distracted by the world not dying. You know? And but yeah, and it's kind of fun to be doing this again. But yeah, I have, it's because I was so excited. It felt like things were moving towards an amazing 2020 in terms of UFOs and public knowledge and awareness and respectability in the mainstream. and it's almost like this was all just done to fuck up to the Stars Academy.

So I'm not sure if that's the case. Well, I mean, I'll say back, back in the day, Ryan, I don't know. Do you remember there being rumors, and maybe others do way, way back in the day of there being some kind of UFO and alien disclosure and people were always predicting 2020? money. Yeah, I mean, we, I feel like that's a yearly thing at this point. We do have the, um, the disclosure crowd. It's like what I predict the Maple Leafs are going to win the Stanley Cup. Exactly, man. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. This was our year. This totally was our year. Yeah. It seemed like it. But it really did seem like this year was different though, right? I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was such a, such a, it was in the zeitgeist. It was becoming in the

mainstream zeit guys that people were taking it seriously. and politicians were talking about it. Yeah, it was definitely building towards something. Now it's definitely been sidelined by this. Yeah, I would have to agree with Dave. I think we were on a really, really good, fast, narrow path in terms of UFOs in the mainstream. And I mean, honestly, that came with the New York Times.

It came with Jeremy's documentaries, and it came with to the stars. And I will be honest, I, as a UFO researcher who's been in the game for a really long time now, like, it was stuffy. It was boring. It was, you know, static. And then, boom, we just got this injection of blood, whether it was through Jeremy's films or books coming out by new authors interested in the UFO topic, Tom DeLong, whoever.

I was, I'm just riding the wave. And it's been an incredible ride. And to see people like Dave getting involved and everything, like these are things. we never expected to see in our little niche community that just seems to have grown exponentially in the last few years. And I do agree with Dave. I think it's sideline right now for the mainstream perception of uphology. But Jane, stuff like what you're doing here, I think the UFO community is more connected now than ever. I've been seeing so many panels and virtual conferences and stuff like that going on. So I'm excited, you know, as much as I hate being locked down in the epicenter of the shit,

It's been really good for my own personal research and just point of view as a human, I guess. Yeah, the world has a wound right now. And we're all trying to figure out what tomorrow is going to look like. And what we've seen is that our priorities have shifted. And I think it's a good thing. There's a lot of beauty that is going to come from everybody having to be more introspect. perspective, having to see what a priority truly is in their lives, what they value the most. These things that not only show us that boundaries are completely false, that maps are just

something that we've created, that we are, as Dave and I were talking about earlier today, completely interconnected, you know, a sad way to figure that out, but we are connected to the planet, we're connected to each other, and all the boundaries we've created are completely fictitious. You know, this is something that I think will inspire a lot of understanding, creativity, and like any challenge as we go through this all together in our own way, because certainly all quarantines are not created equal, you know, which is a positive or negative thing, but it's the reality. The UFO phenomenon, it's been with us since as far as we can tell before the beginning of recorded human history, but for sure, since the beginning of recording.

Court of Human History. So this interest that we have, we might not see it on Fox News like we did a year ago, but I am very confident in saying that that was just the beginning, that there's a lot more that will be coming into the public realm and will kind of re-inspire that big question. You know, the question is, are we alone in the universe? Second is, are they coming here? So that's kind of like, look, man, we got to take care of the wound. We got to take care of each other. It has an opportunity to revolutionize the way that we understand our connectivity and our connection to one another.

And then I think we'll be more formidable in our ability to tackle the bigger questions. That it's, you know, just not hunting, eating, sleeping, and fucking. Something Dave and I were talking about before, but we'll be able to look at these topics in a different way. So look, man, it's not going away. Been here a long time. And here we are, an uncertainty. And let's kind of see what happens from here.

But I'm very optimistic. Yeah, well, I should say the UFO lockdown, I very much feel inspired by you, Jeremy, and I met Jeremy and Dave. So Dave is an actor-comedian. Jeremy is, it would make sense that we would cross-pass, but we met at Area 51 a year ago for the very piece. storm area or storm air base camp area area 51 base camp not the storm area 51 that was infamous on

facebook and so we got to meet there i knew ryan from before and that was such an awesome event and it was you you and other people pulled together it together so quickly and in a time when it was really needed and so it definitely feels very similar this week so i was really inspired by that. The only difference is I called Dave Foley and Dave, we weren't like super tight yet or anything, but I called you said, hey man, jump in a car, get to the desert. I got a dwelling for you. It's by Air 51. People thinking they're going to storm it. It's going to be awesome, man. It's going to be awesome. And you did. You did. And that was wild. What did you think of that, Dave? You know, there's a lot of misconceptions about Storm Air 51. We were there. We were there for the main event.

What do you think about? It was a beautiful, I mean, it was a wonderful event. I mean, it wasn't the insane event that some people were fearing or others were hoping for, I guess. But it was just a wonderful, like, incredibly sort of peaceful, interesting gathering of people just in the desert, you know, enjoying music and enjoying talking about UFO phenomena. And, you know, and just being out there was, you know, just. was a really wonderful experience. And yeah, and my trailer was fantastic.

I put extra cushy pillows in there. So like as a comedian, I'm just curious. I mean, I want you to repent, but as a comedian, can you tell me like what weaponry the comedy has served

in the form of dismissing the UFO topic and then why you've decided to talk about it in a more serious light? Well, that's the thing. I, you know, for me, I realized that my,

my people, my, my sub sub fylum, I guess we call it, of the human species, comedians, has done an awful lot to contribute to the, the systematic ridiculing of the UFO phenomenon and of people who have experienced it. You know, you can pretty much go through and look at any huge UFO event over the last 40, 50, 60 years and tune in whatever comedian was speaking at the time and find them making. jokes about it and always dismissing it. It's always, you know, you know, depicting UFO experiences as lunatics and, you know, and just tapping into the most absurd description of the phenomenon that was fed to us by the government and feeding it back to people and making it impossible for people to come forward because they're terrified of being ridiculed by people

like me. So, you know, so comedians have had a lot to do with the suppression of the real data over the last 70 years. And I feel like as a comedian, I kind of want to point that out to people, especially people who do comedy like I do. And so to get them to think about it in a little more clever and knowledgeable way. And maybe you just stop, you know, stop being a tool of repression. We should all stop being tools. Dave. Yes. Yeah. But I can only, I can only tackle one, stopping being one particular kind of tool at a time. That's a good point because, I mean, don't, don't put it on yourself, Dave. I mean, it's in every industry and field is even within the euphology field. You have people that give it a bad name. What about you, what do you think? So there's like, we, we have a lot of comedians to give comedy a bad name too.

do you see any do you see any do you see any of the UFO do you participate in the UFO Twitter at all Dave I was gonna I know that Ryan knows that hashtag but um yeah I mean there's a lot of UFO debate in chat so like where does every I'm assuming that we're all appreciative of to the stars academy yeah and and what has been accomplished there but there's a lot of people who are very skeptical of it. No. And also, any group of people at all that get involved in any endeavor have a tremendous capacity for really dumb backbiting, you know.

And I think so that's any group, any group that gathers anywhere, there's always going to be some people that are just going to embarrass you and attack each other for no good reason and just sort of set everybody back. And that definitely seems to be the case in the, UFO community, that there are a lot of people who are just very non-constructive, I guess, and territorial. And I think I usually sort of feel like any endeavor when you get really territorial about things. And it's all about, oh, this new bit of information is undermining the thing I've been putting

forward, so I better attack that new bit of information. You know, as opposed to getting excited about anything, you know, like I always said, the only arguments worth having are the ones you lose. Oh, that's good. Yeah. So, you know, you never, you never, you never, you never learn anything from winning an argument. So, so, you know, and whenever I find out I was wrong about something, I find it kind of exciting. And I think that's something that should be applied to any, any field.

I'd like to add you, too. I agree with Dave. I think, you know, the work constructive is extremely important. We need skeptics in this field. field, this quote unquote field, we need them. Like, it's necessary. And I, I am sure all four of us, five of us, excuse me, I was not included myself and six. I see the alien in the background there. We all are skeptic to some degree. But when, when Dave says it comes to attacking and straight up, straight up debunking immediately without even asking someone, I mean, I see Jeremy deal

of this on a freaking daily basis of people coming at him talking about Bob Lazar and they say the same damn like five words every time without even looking at it. If you go back and look at any news segment about UFOs where there's a believer or someone, you know, a proponent of the UFO phenomenon and a skeptic, they don't even know what case they're on there to talk about. They just know exactly what they're going to say. It was Venus. It was this. And they don't even put the legwork in. So I think that applies to Twitter, too. I think there's a lot of people on Twitter who are just there to only amplify that tribalism. But end of the day, I mean, I love talking to everyone on UFO Twitter. It's fun. It's entertaining. But you got to remain, you know, you got to remain respectful. I'm not sure if I've delved into UFO Twitter. You have to... It's basically Twitter

anytime you talk about UFOs. Yeah, I mean, I follow all of you guys. You know, and George Nap and... Let me make a comment here. So, about Twitter and about our ability to communicate about UFOs and about skepticism. Dave Foley has actually said some things to me that were very powerful about this.

You know, there's... He has an analogy that maybe you'll share with us. about Occam's razor after I say this. But, you know, the basic thing is skepticism is one thing, right? The idea that you critically look at something to try to determine if there's weight or validity to it because none of us want to look a fool. None of us want to be wrong. However, I think that's a huge mistake.

As you said earlier, Jane, or I think it was you, you know, it's through loss. like when I was a mixed martial athlete, when I was doing that, it was always the losses that taught me how to better resolve for the future problems. Jiu-jitsu is like problems. You're solving them as you go.

So this idea of communication with Twitter and euphology and skepticism. Yeah, every day I deal with this, you know, people ask the same questions over and over, and the questions, the tones are loaded with preconception. I've completely ignore. I block, delete, don't read, hatred, venom, that kind of thing. It's too much coming in.

My life has changed greatly since my movies. It's too much coming in. So there are pressure points we can push. Those that are interested in finding out if the UFO topic has enough merit scientifically, sociologically, and personally to give it value, to give it time. those are the people that it's you're you're required to answer them i do believe that i believe it is our duty and our job to be honest and straightforward and answer but when the conversation devolves into a point and a perspective where people are just trying to prove their own standpoint

it's a waste of space a waste of breath so my tactic is drop it and leave it but then jump in later and people that are really interested. I'm going to go through it. Now, the number one problem I have with, you know, social media and the UFO topic is people wanting everything now and wanting it the easy way. If I tell you my opinion on something, you're not going to be swayed. You're going to be able to drop that opinion later. It wasn't formed and forged to the fire of your own desire and your own look at stuff. So you need to investigate. A lot of the questions I get are things that are already answered, the same things that have been answered for 30 years about Bob Lazar. However, the concept that we can communicate, as long as nobody says something

mean or terrible, you know, let's talk about it. But if it's something that's been answered before, I'm going to say, go do the work. Go look into it. Go build your own personal Akashik record of information, form your own opinion. Now, Dave Foley had a very interesting point that he told me about Occam's Razor. So not to get into specifics with Lazar or whatever, but just the basic concept you've told me, Dave. Can you tell us that? It was basically my reaction to people like Michael Shermer, who, you know, and the notion

that they'll apply Occam's razor inaccurately. because Occam's Razor doesn't say that the most boring answer is correct. It says that the simplest answer is correct. But they've taken that to be just whatever is the most banal answer, that's the one you're going to have to accept, even if you have to jump through multiple loops to accept it. Like Michael Shermer saying the TikTok video was a product of exhaustion on the part of the pilots, equipment error on the on the onboard radar and infrared cameras combined with equipment error in the radar in the radar rooms of, you know, of the ships below, combined with errors in perception by the trained pilots and two jets, well, three jets, actually, if you count the one that we're not in actually video dead.

So you have to accept that. A trained pilot couldn't tell the difference between the exhaust flare of another jet and the tick-tac that he clearly observed. And you have to accept that at the exact same time, the radar, the most advanced radar on the world, got a false reading on a craft that exactly matched the movements of the craft that David Fraver was observing. So you have to believe all of these things happened and that he was exhausted and hallucinating. And this is also coming from people who've never spoken with Commander Fraber. And this is coming. Yeah. And that to me is the most annoying because, you know, my whole investigation began going into the Nimitz

encounters way before it was ever known and speaking with people directly. And with Occam's Razor, the simplest explanation for what happened is, he saw exactly what he described. Right. That doesn't say what it is that he saw, doesn't say how it flies, doesn't say where it's from, but Occam's Razor says the simplest explanation

for what happened that day is everybody saw exactly what they described. Yeah. Yeah. Dave, I mean, if even one of those things Michael Shermer said is true, those people should not be in the Navy. I mean, straight up. Those aren't the people we want.

Defending our, exactly, our national security. Give me a break. No, and it's also, this is a guy, and they said it was the stress, the performance stress. David Fravor, he's a top gun pilot. He's not going to flip out during a training mission. No, no. Yeah, good point. Let me add a little bit.

Commander Fravor at the time was head of the black aces. Commander Fravor had more flight time than anybody. And it wasn't just Commander Fravor that saw the Tick-Tac. There were many eyes, a few planes up there. But he was the one that engaged it. He was the one that actually chased it. So, yeah, these types of, I don't know, detached viewpoints, obviously they have an agenda, you know, a psychological agenda in trying to dismiss something where the weight is so powerful now. I love when the bunkers come out and say, by the way, trained top gun pilots are no better observers than the average person.

You don't understand. Yeah, they are. Yeah, they are. And additionally, hopefully I'll reveal a lot more of this. There were a lot of things going on at that time. There were a lot of systems that we have that we're tracking and that we're following these. So we're not just talking about eyewitness. That's what makes the limits encounters a great case, is we're talking about technology.

individuals. I will say, although it's a very unpopular, I'm going to be killed on UFO Twitter for this. There are a lot of bullshitters out there. There's a lot of people. And you can read it in two seconds. They're like whining children. There's people that come out and they're trying to make a buck

off of what's been going on. Now, I'll tell you, the people I've interviewed, the people I talk with, they were resistant to going out publicly. They weren't jumping up on podiums and trying to make a dollar off of it. So people say, why didn't you interview this person? Why didn't you interview that person?

People don't know who I interviewed. I haven't released everything. The people that are most interesting to me are the people that don't have a dog in the fight. The people that are resistant to being known publicly. This is a seminal case for the UFO topic because it's current. And it implies a lot of understanding on a government level. and a military level of an increased frequency of unknown vehicles, of unknown origin,

of high technology that outpace, outmaneuver, and shut down some of our most complex communications and weapon systems. So this is an important case. It's a very important case. But just to kind of go back to your point, Dave, I think that, you know, it's in the eye of the beholder in a way. if you've already made up your mind, there's nothing anybody can do. But if you're willing to look at the evidence and you're willing to really take the time, there's a profound mystery that we are now being led in on that's been held secret by our government for more than 70 years.

I'd love to ask Jeremy your opinion on this since you've spoken to Commander Fravor. A lot of skeptics are saying this was the Air Force testing the Navy. I mean, I don't know. That sounds, to me, that sounds asinine that they would. No, no, that's that's verifiably false. Okay. It's verifiably false on so many levels. Okay.

Not even not even talking about the technology and what it can do and the fact that we don't have this technology. But additionally, that's not how things are tested. That is dangerous. That is not something that is even remotely part of a reality that can be considered. This is not one branch of the government with a technology that has been unused in warfare that all of a sudden we're testing secretly off the coast of California. That's not how it works. Period.

Full stop. Bullshit. Anybody that says that? Walk away. Better use of your time. This was an unknown object of extreme technology that is very clearly manipulating what we know as gravity in order to maneuver. It was able to shut down our optics and weapon systems on our most advanced systems as well as our encrypted systems. one of the most amazing things about the tick-tac incident is the way that it was able to maneuver to what's called the cap point, which is a later point that Commander Fravor was going to.

Somehow, whether it be temporal distortion or let it be some sort of encryption, it was able to know a future movement that one of our pilots were able to do. Dave Foley and I today were talking about, well, what have these advanced technology? that we call UFOs, what have they done with our technology? You know, what are they capable of? This is beyond shadow of a doubt. We know that these technologies can shut down our nuclear weapons. We know that they can manipulate our nuclear weapons. This is something that they have shown before.

This is not me just talking. This is a true thing. So this concept of a way a hardcore physical technology interacts with some sort of intelligence that's operating them, whether them be manned or not manned or people are in them or people are not in them. This is not something we have. This is something we wish we had. One of the greatest moments of my life was being able to speak with the highest ranking military individual that I have ever personally been able to speak with one to one, man to man, person to person, somebody who is in a position to know, somebody who is currently

in a position to know. And what he said to me is that if we had these technologies, we would have had been deploying them. We would have been using them. It's so revolutionary. We wish we did have these

technologies, these things you're calling UFOs, Jeremy. We wish we had them. We do not have anti-gravitics. We do not have the ability to move through space time as these craft do. and undeniably, these craft are moving through gravity wave amplification. This is undeniable.

Our military knows it. Our intelligence agencies know this. The problem is that it can be weaponized. So I would really pay attention to what Balazar told you. The function of the craft, the science of the craft, I would pay attention to that. That is how these things are moving. Implications of that are so vast. They're so profound. They can instantly, instantaneously change the way that humanity lives on this earth. So anyway, Dave, Bolley, thank you for telling us about Occam's Razor because there's a lot of bullshit out there.

Well, I'm curious, Dave, on your take and others too, what about the one extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence? Because that's another one. Because also, Occam's razor is not, I understand it, there's not, it's not a scientific thing. It's just a saying.

It's a kind of a mental, yeah. It's a scientific version of a kitchen plaque that says, hang in there, baby. Right. Yeah, it's not a scientific principle. And the extraordinary claims thing,

okay, that's, it's a valid criticism. But there is extraordinary evidence for those extraordinary claims. But it seems to be there's no requirement for even vaguely accurate claims to debunk. Right. You know, it's like anything that can debunk one element of a sighting or of an incident

is taken to debunk the entire incident and every incident vaguely similar to it throughout all of history, you know. If you, you know, it's like if you can, you know, claim that sometimes people have mistaken weather balloons for UFOs. Therefore, all UFOs are weather balloons. That's the way the debunking usually goes. And that's not very good rigor. And they're more likely Chinese lanterns. Yeah. Well, I mean, like somebody who's had kind of a bit of an evolution is Michoakaku. Yes. Yes. Because he, he had done a video. I watched him. on YouTube that just infuriated me because I think he's such a smart guy. But he did a whole thing about the Ticktack UFO saying it was most likely a Russian drone that was able to shut off its engines and fly without it and glide without engines. That's why I didn't have a heat signature.

And it was able to maneuver right to left. So that's why it was able to make turns. And that is most likely what the Ticktack UFO. was, completely ignoring the fact that gliding drones, a gliding drone is unlikely to go from, you know, 60 feet above sea level to 60,000 feet in a matter of seconds in a straight line. It isn't likely to make right angle turns. So, you know, his explanation didn't match any of the evidence, didn't match any of the observed phenomena. But he dismissed the whole thing. Does everybody, I mean, I don't know if the audience understands the difference between reactionary propulsion and gravitational propulsion, but...

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to one another about the technical specifications required to have these types of maneuvers witnessed by Commander Fravor. And then what Bob described, Bob Lazar described back in 1989. So let's make this really simple. It was a learning curve for me, but I find it to be a pivotal aspect of our understanding of how these craft work, which is a small portion of the phenomenon is the UFOs themselves. So a reactionary crack, a reactionary propulsion system is like everything you see. You push something out the back, you move forward. So this is, you know, trains, cars, combustion engines.

This is a very basic principle of known physics. We don't know all of physics. We are discovering stuff every day. Anybody that says, well, physics proves or disproves this, get a grip. We are young as a species. Okay. So reactionary propulsion is the idea that you push something on the back, you move forward. Now, why have UFOs over all these years been identified as coming in, we said with the Nimitz case, above 80,000 feet? It was actually outer space, dropping down to 50 feet above the water.

So that was the scan volume of the Spy 1 radar was 80,000 feet. That's about where it catches it. These things are coming from above that. So outer space. Now, why have we heard about objects being able to do right-hand turns? Why have we heard about objects being able to drop into the sea without a splash? Why have we been able to hear about these objects? And people witness these objects hovering, stationary, sometimes almost as if they're floating on water.

The reason is because the technology that is used is a field propulsion system. It's a non-reactionary system. So instead of pushing something out the back to move forward, you're using high energy to amplify a gravity wave, distorting because gravity is in relation to time and space, has an effect. So it's almost like making a pocket that you fall into. And this is something that Bobazar said in 1989. And it truly is what weaponized my curiosity. It's what made me stop being a passive consumer of information and start being an absolute. active participant in trying to understand this stuff is this concept. So put a bull and ball

on a bed, spring mattress, push your fist down. And that ball falls towards where you've made the depression. So what's happening with these craft, they're not pushing something out and back to move forward. They're focusing waves of gravity in a direction where they want to be. This distorts time and space. So this is also why things can move optically, ba-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-h like this. They might be, but also this might be an optical aspect of the distortion of time and space created by a gravity wave. This is understood with the intelligence communities, within the scientific communities, within the multitude of projects in every

branch of our military that studies UFOs actively today, which there are, that this is how the craft work. So the concept right behind me, this picture of the flying saucer that Babazar was able to actually walk into, check it out, right, is that the way these things maneuver is through field propulsion systems, gravity wave amplification. I can solidly say that, take it or leave it. But it's so important because it shows us that not only Baba's right, gravity is a wave and that it can be amplified. like any wave, and that objects are not exploding when they do these 90-degree turns either because of some sort of optical time-space distortion, but more likely, because their entire way in which they're propelling is different than our concept that we understand as far as reactionary

propulsion. So I hope that makes it a little bit clear to people why that's important, but that's also why that there was Project Galileo, which was the project which for the propulsion, system at Site 4 that Bob worked on, but there was also Project Looking Glass, which looked at temporal distortions by this amplification, gravity amplification system. There was Project Sidekick, which is looking at the weaponization of gravity amplification, which is massively powerful. So we can understand why everything's hush about this, because whoever gains the ability to replicate this technology as a nation, they fucking win. They fucking win. It's as simple as that. So this concept of secrecy, think about the atomic bomb, this concept of cover-up, it is real.

It is happening. This is what we are guarding is this idea that we can take elements out of a propulsion system and use them for things like weapons. weaponization. That's the reality. So I hope I've kind of described what gravity amplification is or what gravity distortion is in very simple terms compared to a reactionary propulsion system, but it is the crux and core of what we're talking about. We're talking about the machines. So does that help? I don't know. Do my next year. I'd like to add to. I had Jeremy on our TV show recently and my partner is one of the most skeptical people on the planet and she dismissed Bob Lazar immediately until Jeremy brought to us a video of Jeremy showing the gimbal video, 2015 video, to Bob Lazar for the very first time. And that was a revelatory moment for me and for my partner

to see that what's being displayed in this UFO video from 2015 is eerily seen. similar to exactly how Bob Lazar said, these craft functioned, anti-gravidic, polling instead of pushing. We see this in the gimbal video, which just stunned me when Jeremy first brought that to me. And then my partner, after all was setting done, all the Hollywood bullshit was over,

I asked her straight up. Like, do you think this is authentic? Do you think Bob Lazar is who he says he is? And she said, yes. And I'm not afraid to say that. on the air. Like that didn't make it in the show, but she told me straight up. She said, I can't, I can't, I can't deny it anymore. So that was a big moment. It's really hard to dismiss. I mean, especially once you know Bob and you know kind of, you know what he's gone through personally. And you get to

actually get to that position, which most people obviously won't. He probably wouldn't believe it if it was, you know, the roles were reversed. He said, however, he wouldn't dismiss it. And we are seeing that. We're seeing now popularly, people are talking about how the, the crowd, will turn belly first to move in that direction. So this is obviously one form in which these unknown objects seem to travel as to this, you know, triad of gravity amplification. But the, you guys, I wish you were in the room for this. When Commander David Fravor and Bob Lazare were able finally, with George Knapp, Matt Adams,

and me in the room, they were finally able to go over optically and. technologically, what Commander Fraber was able to ascertain from the experience, and then talking with Bob Lazar about what he witnessed in attempting to reverse engineer, which is completely impossible. Our material science is the number one boundary when it comes to being able to replicate this gravity amplification systems. But in that meeting, to see them go back and forth on a scientific level, because Commander Fraber is an engineer as well. I mean, he is absolutely one of not just a fighter pilot he's got brains man so the ability to see them talk the ability to see them go over the specifications of what it would be required from energy and power to the type of

propulsion it was a very powerful meeting and i hope one day you know the look i like studying this shit it's cool when i can film it and show to other people obviously 99.9% of what i do on a daily basis is not filmed and put out for people. But that would be a meeting. That would be a meeting for people to see. So it's cool to see Bob Azar dissect that video. And it's cool your skeptical friend starts understanding a little more. But this is so much bigger.

You know, so anyway, I just wanted to relay that that was a powerful meeting that people should pay attention to. Well, I was going to say, one of the most powerful things about your movie about Bob is outside of the, like the technical revelations of it and the stories he tells us about what he worked on was. the fact that when you watch the movie for me it was the first time I'd had enough time to sit and feel like I was with him

and sort of unobstructed I guess would be one way to put it and you you can't escape the idea this is a very rational, extremely intelligent person who has nothing to gain from saying the things he's saying and that's like a really powerful thing to just realize well there's no reason to not believe him

If you get to spend, you know, thanks Dave for saying that the point of the movie was to do two things. One was to uplift the visual medium of UFO movies because most are crap and I just wanted to see something I'd want to watch. But it was to humanize. You know, it's harder to violently dismiss somebody that you can just, you know, you label them crazy because they're talking about something you don't want to deal with. It's harder to do that when someone is humanized. When you're able to show, hey, this is his dog. this is his wife, this is his mom, these are his friends. What would be his, it's like in court, what's motive?

The lies out there that Bob has somehow benefited in any way, financially, in any way, they're all fucking bullshit. We have a guy that- To poison people's minds against someone. You look at what happened to Bob Kerry in the Swift boat back in, you know, the Bushet campaign. You know, that you're able to take someone to. who is clearly, definitively done something heroic

and just tell people it wasn't and people will believe it, even though the facts don't support weight, they're saying. And why should a whistleblower be a saint too, though? So to Jeremy giving the humanity, obviously Bob Lazar is not a perfect human being

like you or me. No. You're perfect? That's so cool. Yeah. Is that what I said? No, it just sounded, I love it. seem perfect. I was making a joke. Look, Po-Buddy's Nerfic, as I've been told many times. But yeah, the idea that, so Bob does not see himself as a whistleblower. He came forward with

the information out of fear for his own life and for his wife at the time. That was very real stuff. This is not cloak and dagger bullshit. You know, this is he was being monitored and he allowed them to tap his phones when he first got the job. That's no problem. him. He was actually told his wife was having an affair by agents. He didn't know. It was because they tapped the stone. George Knapp has met one of the people that was tasked with following him. So has Bob. They proved it to them. That's an incredible thing. So this idea that he benefited from this, okay, you just don't know Bob. You just don't know the story. You just don't know what actually happened or you're dismissing it because you don't want to hear it. He has not.

benefiting. This has been heartache. It's been traumatic. He's ripping off his Clark Kent outfit, though. He stepped forward again after 30 years, and I am so grateful that he did that. He put a lot of trust in me. He thought, you know, he'd just be pitchforked again and it would destroy his life again. And we've seen the opposite. Now people are, because maybe of December 2017, I don't know, but people are starting to pay attention. It would be reckless not to do it. it. And he doesn't really care if any individual, I mean, it's got to take a toll after 30 years of people talking shit. I mean, I hate opening Twitter these days. I'm just trying to help people who want to learn. But it feels bad opening it. Right. So I could only imagine what he went through.

He does not see himself as a whistleblower. He did it for self-preservation. But now, at this point in his life, he truly feels not one individual, but in general, it's important people understand there's science and there is technology and it is being held back from humanity by a military faction because there's not just one government, but by a faction. And everything that's been done to dismiss and harm him, you know, he's weathered it. He's, he's not a whistleblower, but he's heroic. As a friend, he's a heroic person. So, yeah, I'm really glad that people are starting to listen and, you know, people need to judge for themselves. I'm very, curious guys. I know there's a couple media things that have been out there. There's the new Skinwalker

Show Ranch, the Skin Walker Ranch show. And then there's also the idea of without mentioning anybody who's completely full of shit. But there's this idea about summoning. And I wanted to hear Dave Foley. I was in conflict. I had this problem with I'm a Natsimbold's guy, craft, but I've witnessed this summoning shit. And it's pretty compelling. And I was like, I called Dave or touch the Dave. And I was like, man, I can't wrap my head around this. How could machines be connected to our consciousness?

And he told me something that just like really allowed me to understand this a little bit more. So would you mind telling us about that, Dave? Oh, sure. If no one else minds. Yeah, we were talking about that. And the thing that made me think of right away was Princeton's universal consciousness project, which was a project they set up, I forget how long ago, about 20 years ago now, I think.

Well, yeah, so it was right before 9-11 that they set it up. But they started studying whether or not people paying attention to a machine could have an effect on the machine. So they set up random number generators and had people to sit in a room with a random number generator and think about the machine. And what they found was that when someone does that, the machine veers away from being random

and starts producing patterns of numbers. and they thought that's weird and they kept doing it and they kept repeating it and it was repeatable over and over and over again and then they thought well what happens if more people

are thinking about something so they decided they would set up random number generators all around the world and monitor world events and see what happens when a major event happens that has a lot of people thinking about it

and right after that 9-11 happened and what they found was that all of the machines all across the world at once veered away from randomness and started producing patterns of numbers as a response to the and so the effect seems to be connected to the number of people thinking about something another example where it veered was when prime minister of Canada died pierre trudeau and his son now the prime minister justin trudeau gave the eulogy um you had to 30 million Canadians all listening to this eulogy pretty much at the same time. And there was another event where the randomness went off significantly,

but specifically in those machines in the area of Canada. So they found that consciousness was having an effect on machines. So if we're discovering that now, and we have this very primitive understanding of of how consciousness can have an effect on things. We have to assume that any technology advanced of ours, as far advanced of ours as these UFOs obviously have to be, they must be also really advanced in terms of manipulating the connection of consciousness to machines and to each other and being able to manipulate consciousness.

So that's why, to me, when I heard about these people saying that there was a connection, to their consciousness, it seems obviously that there is a mechanical way to connect to consciousness that we're already discovering. So a few thousand years from now, we'll actually be able to turn it into a meaningful technology. And it's more than just machines. Yeah, and it's more than just machines, right. Machines are picking up that connection between consciousness engaging. And consciousness are connected to each other. Right. And so I think the bigger picture is that consciousness influences physical reality. This is not some hippie bullshit.

This is just that our consciousness has a dynamic dance with what we know to be or understand limitedly what reality is. So the idea that machines can pick that up and actually have an effect, then this idea that consciousness and what we call UFOs, that there is an intimate connection, it kind of mended that wound for me as a nuts and bolts, you know, Bob Lazar, UFO guy. And I'm very non-spiritual guy. And, you know, I don't like anything spiritual as an explanation of anything. Yeah, yeah.

The whole chakra thing and did you reduce, forget about it. But I'm just saying, in general, this is a profound. You should have suspended our ET contact and spirituality session earlier. No, no, not having it, not doing it. Keep your crystals to yourself. Namaste over here, you're going to stay over there. But, you know, yeah, that connection, that consciousness connection is, yeah, it is basically, it makes sense when you realize that, that reality itself emerges out of the quantum level of reality. You know, it's a quantum phenomenon.

And consciousness is also a quantum phenomena. So they're both existing in the same level. And they're both coming out of that, you know, and then everything we perceive beyond the quantum. is kind of an illusion anyway. Yeah, I recently interviewed Leslie Keene, the investigative journalist on her book, Surviving Death, about the afterlife. And it was really interesting because I went into this thinking I was going to be having like a spiritual or religious conversation.

And that was like the first thing she said to me was the word God was not in my book once. It's like a 350 page book. And I found that really interesting. And I agree with both of you that we are getting closer to the science behind consciousness on the quantum level. And that's, I do agree. I think it's going to take a really long time to get there. But the idea that consciousness is part of the afterlife, and this is how we may be able

to communicate with those whose consciousness has moved on, gone to another vessel, whatever you want to call it. Yeah. Why not? Why can't that be connected to whatever UFOs represent? I think it's fascinating. And Jeremy, you did mention the whole, you know, sort of CE5 thing too. This is a huge movement right now. Well, I didn't say CE5, but yeah, you know, I feel you. I feel you. I feel like we were inching there. But I feel like. You're all crazy. When all else fails, when nuts and bolts fails, like what are we left with? And I think the quantum. level has something to do with that. Well, that's something is, like, I don't believe we have souls, but I do believe there's something to the ghost phenomenon. You know, and when I tell people that, you know, I'm an atheist, but I believe ghosts

are probably real. They go, well, how can you, how can you believe in that without believing we have a soul? And I said, like, like, I believe the phenomenon exists because we have, you know, thousands of years of anecdotal evidence for it, you know, and I don't think you can dismiss thousands of years. The only reason why things are paranormal is because they're not. normalized yet because we haven't figured out exactly how they're working. And this is something that, you know, I talked a lot with Dr. Edgar Mitchell before he passed away, was able to film with him.

You know, he's a guy that when he was coming back from the moon, he had an epiphany. And he realized, you know, his interconnectivity of his consciousness with the planet he was coming back to. And he started the Institute of Noetic Sciences. So this, and I was kind of joking, Ryan. I mean, we are talking about this idea where people are believing that their consciousness is somehow interacting with these machines in the sky or whatever

and undoubtedly there's something to it undoubtedly and we have to separate the messenger from the message that's really important because the UFO world it does inspire lots of schizophrenia

inspires a lot of fantasy but that doesn't mean that there isn't real power in looking into these realms that feel uncomfortable. I'm personally allergic to that kind of high weirdness, but I'm confronted by it. I'm confronted by it because of things like Skinwalker Ranch. And you guys know that George Knapp, who has been an amazing mentor to me in journalism, he jumped into that and he looked at it. And the scientists and Dr. Colin Kelleher and Eric B.

Davis and Nids and Jacques Ballet and Hal put off and some of the brightest minds that we have, Kit Green, all these people, they've been looking into this for quite some time. It is an undeniable fact that the phenomenon, which includes UFOs, that it does interact, almost in a playful manner or a performance manner, it does interact with humanity and with human consciousness and you've got some place like Skinwalker Ranch, which is being used as a living laboratory. Again, boundaries are false. We know that from Corona. But the idea that you can have a place and you can study it. So like the show that just came out, millions of people are watching this show. Millions of people. So it is opening that door for us under the new ownership of

Skinwalker Ranch, it is opening that door for us to have this conversation, to face our, the imposition of our, you know, preconceptions. You know, I firmly feel consensus reality needs to catch up with physical reality. And that's on us. Consensus reality is wrong. It is incomplete. And so now it's time that we, you know, we start looking at this stuff in fun ways. entertainment personally, having these conversations. And I know probably like you all been the crazy uncle or crazy aunt and the family, you know, interested in UFOs. This topic is big.

It's big because it looks at the idea of not only are we alone in the universe, but it also, it looks into the concept of is reality as we understand it. Is it like Dave Foley, you said to me today, looking at the screen of your iPhone, it tells you nothing about what's going on on the inside of that. Yeah, that's the... Can you tell me about that a second? That's actually a guy, Donald Hoffman, who's a cognitive psychologist, but he's putting out this theory that basically our senses evolved not to reveal reality to us, but to conceal reality. from us. How do you mean?

That it, that what, that are, that are, that are, basically our senses, we're creating a user interface that is understandable and useful. It is not about knowing what's really going on. Like we, we look at our, our iPhones, and we can send emails on our iPhones, or we can watch videos on our iPhones without having any concept about what is going on behind that, that piece of glass that we're staring at. We have no idea what's happening. And every, most of the things.

that are happening inside the phone are happening at a quantum level as well. But so he said that our senses were basically just set up not to reveal reality to us, but to filter reality out so that we can maneuver and survive. We can avoid being eaten. We can find mates. We can find food. And those were the things that we needed senses to direct us towards. And that anything that didn't provide those, that sort of a filter, that user interface to

dealing with reality would be discarded through evolution because it wouldn't, you know, it's like, be needed for survival to know the means of life. Yeah. Whereas if you, if some, if some creature did evolve that was able to perceive reality at a quantum level, it most likely would get eaten by a lion and not reproduce and not, you know, it would not dominate the species. So he was saying that evolution weeds out reality. in terms of our senses.

And I don't fully understand anything, but it's, but his, and he believes that essentially the, the universe is, is, is really built up of conscious entities. And consciousness,

the consciousness itself is the baseline reality. Mm-hmm. Of the universe. Um, but that, you know, but our, our,

our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, it's very useful. Right. It's very useful. Yeah. It's useful.

It's not related, yeah. Yeah. It said that, yeah, anything, and he's run like evolutionary models, and any time he runs a model where, you know, where he imposes the idea of, of really perceiving reality as opposed to having a user interface that's useful, they quickly disappear. They quickly get destroyed. Yeah. In Jiu-Jitsu, we had a saying is called the 90-90 rule, right?

You train 90% of the time, the stuff that works at 90% of the, that, that, you know, that, the time and the techniques that work the remaining 10% you know maybe you study those 10% of the time so the idea that our physical tangible perception of reality is useful at least 90% of them then we're going to focus on that however it's it's the rest of it that if we have the luxury to look into we have the luxury to think about to study to analyze to dig deep to find out more that's the cutting edge. That's where things are going to change. Yeah, and you have to wonder, like, hypothetically, is that what this phenomenon, if we're going to talk UFO, I'd rather say phenomena, I guess,

is that the end goal? Are they trying to get us back to that point of getting to the, you know, the other side of that filtering mechanism, I guess? I do wonder, is there an end goal, I guess? Yeah, I mean, who are they? I mean, that's something that Foley and I we're talking about today, it's like, you know, these occupants or these controllers of these vehicles, which is one small part of the phenomenon on the UFO topic, this part of it, you know, how invested are they in humankind? What are the things that we've witnessed that they've done? We've seen them toying with our nuclear weapons. But other than that, I mean,

they're not coming around and shooting a vaccine of light for corona. I mean, what's really going on and Dave I mean just because I'm greedy Dave tell us a little bit about that Dave I agree with Ryan in that I think phenomena is a better term I think there are some of the phenomena like I think that your friends who is involved with summoning the the Jim Martin the guy that had that video recently yeah that he summons yeah that seems to be different from the the nuts and bolts kind of sightings that a lot of other people have where it doesn't feel like there's any desire on the part of these people to really connect with us in some way. But these people that want to seem to want these craft that seem to want to interact with our

consciousness, maybe there is an interest there in us. Right. Like the object that was docking with the new SO unidentified submerged object when Commander Fravor came up, the Tick-Tac was, for lack of a better term, docking. It was ignoring the fighter pilots. It was ignoring them until it noticed, in his own words, noticed him and then came and mirrored his exact movements. So it was doing a job. It was doing something else. It wasn't there for him. It wasn't a personal thing. However, a lot of the sightings

do end up being very uniquely personal. And I've seen things like that myself where certain people can see them. Other people can't until you put a camera on them. They see the object and the camera. and then they can see it with their eyes. So this idea of passivity, this idea that some of these objects are doing more than just like mapping or something, but they're engaging people. Is that what you're talking about?

Yeah, well, I mean, I think you have to look at it, if you want to draw parallel, that somebody who works for an oil drilling company will go into a jungle and find a place where there might be oil. And you might not notice any of the flora and fauna in that jungle. he might not take any time to watch, you know,

leaf cutter ants and marvel at what they do. He's just going to go find oil and leave, right? But then you have someone like Jane Goodall who will go into the jungle and devote her whole life to understanding something, another creature. So perhaps in the UFO phenomena, there are some people whose job is just to come and get oil and other people whose job is to come and understand what's going on.

different, probably different species. And within different species, probably just like us, a variety of tasks that are performed. And a variety of intent. Yeah. And that, you know, so that, you know, if you want to find out about, you know, about the ecosystems of the jungle, don't ask the oil guy. I work with experiencers, Dave, and witnesses. That's my, I guess, approach to euphology. And one case I'm recalling is a woman in Detroit who came to me with one of the most stunning cases I've heard of in Michigan over body water. She's a triangular UFO calls her daughter to come out. She's like 15 years old and they're both looking up at this thing and the mother said she felt euphoric

while looking up and that it was completely silent and then she looks over at her 15 year old daughter and she's crouched on the ground covering her ears and saying how unbearably loud the craft is. So there's an objective reality to the UFO phenomenon, clearly. But the subjectivity of it actually speaks to me more, the observer having the experience. So I do find it fascinating that we can look at it as, yes, nuts and bolts craft, distinct reality of a phenomenon. And then we look at the person having the experience and how they disdemeanor.

to embrace that or reject it. The mom is like totally into it now. She has tons of sightings. She has high strangeness experiences. The daughter, she said, fuck this. I want nothing to do with it. I never want to talk about this again. I'm done.

So I think it's really interesting, these people having the experiences, Navy pilots included, you know, I'm sure one of them went one way with it and another one a completely different way. I think that... Yeah, the last train pilot had a lot of fear. Right.

And it freaked them out and Commander Faber said, I'm going to go check that out. I want to see who's flying that. Exactly. There's a big difference. Yeah. There is. And that lends you look at the experience through, I think, has a lot to do with this. That's the stuff that Donald Hoffman talks about, even in prepping his lectures, he talks about the fact that our experience of reality at a very fundamental day-to-day level is subjective. You know, that we will, you know, that's how optical illusions work.

Right. is because our experience of reality is, is subjective and that you can, you can see things as being different colors when they aren't different colors, depending on the context that you're seeing them in. You know, you have the, you know, is it a duck or a rabbit? You can only see it one way or another, that optical illusion. Because our, because reality is subjective,

and because it's subjective, it's inaccurate. it. And so no one can no to, you know, it's almost like the old saying of seeing is believing. It's closer to actually believing a seeing is probably closer to the reality of how we perceive the world. Come out with a certain perspective. So speaking of the world right now and how we perceive it, and we've talked for over an hour. And I can't believe I'm doing this. But I'm going to, I'm going to try to wrap us up with a, I mean, we could just keep this stream going on night. and everybody could hang out and we could talk about UFOs all night. And you guys should keep doing that after you get off the live chat at home with your friends. Like keep talking about it.

What is, and I know you answered this earlier, Ryan, in the festival, but you can participate again. We'll just go around. We'll start with you, Ryan. What are you most looking forward to doing when this stupid quarantine is over? Going outside. I mean, that's the simplest answer. I've been trapped in my closet of a New York apartment for over a month now. And just looking up, I mean, there's mass UFO sightings going on during this lockdown, which is incredible.

You know, everyone's home and everyone's like looking for any excuse to just pop their head out the window and look at the sky. So I think it's an exciting time. Like Jeremy said earlier, I think it's going to be really interesting to see the new normal that's going to come out of this. and what I can do to just keep the ball rolling. I mean, I know the minute I have the opportunity, I'm going to Phoenix to meet with a Zuni elder and look at the Phoenix lights in a whole new way. So that's what I'm most excited about.

And honestly, just seeing my family and just live in life to the fullest. But in the meantime, I'm digging. into a lot of old UFO books, valet, and to look at the stones I never unturned before. And you're looking at this phenomenon in a whole new life. You are such a hard worker. I've been, like, reporting on UFOs for a while. And there's just the amount of amazing content you put out, and the frequency is incredible. And you've been doing a lot of interviews right now.

You're hardly just hanging out at home. Yeah, there's very, if I did that, I'd go crazy. So thank God for you for. and for three, wow, I can't even count. I'm going crazy. Include yourself. Yeah, yeah. I'll include myself.

The Royal Wii, yeah. No, so. Glurp. Glerp? Yeah, where do you go? No, I look, stuff like this has been amazing. So I hope when we are allowed to go back out into society, we still come together and do stuff like this.

Because I think that's a lot of businesses are probably going to go that way, too. They're going to look at their business model and be like, why the hell are we renting a building every month to put these people in? Like, let's just do this from home. So everything is going to change after this. And it's disappointing that it took a crisis to do that. But hey, that's the way society works. You rebuild in a whole new light.

And I think that goes for the UFO topic as well. Yeah. So, yeah, thank you. What about you, Jeremy? What are you looking forward to? I'm really enjoying being a hermit. I'm an extrovert, but, you know, the world is a fickle thing. So I'm really enjoying going through the footage over the last 10 years,

99% of which people have never seen. And I know there's going to be a lack in content. So I'm going to try to have a voice in that. I'm going to put out some new content. So really, I think rather than thinking about what's happening tomorrow, right now spending time with friends and family, and doing the best we can. And germs are real.

This is real. This is not some big conspiracy. This is happening. And we all are realizing our boundaries and borders are fake and that we have to work together in order to stay healthy and find a way to live where we can gain all of those things from one another. Information. Fucking hugs, you know.

But we have to do it in a way where we think about one another. I see these protests. People say it's a big conspiracy because you imagine my email box every morning is just filled with garbage. I mean, thousands of messages of garbage. And this image came to me where it's like all these protesters are civil liberties, our rights, all this stuff. And then one, one medical worker who you know is going to have to deal with all these people who are shoulder to shoulder selfishly, selfishly going outside and trying to say, They're pissed. Right now is a time for us to be introspective to show love and to be there for people that need us and to kind of help everybody out and stop thinking just about ourselves.

So I'm looking forward obviously to filming more interviews, to put it out more footage. But the number one thing, which I'm most excited about, is playing with this laser gun from Bob Lazar. Because let me tell you something. This is a serious laser gun. What did you just set on fire in your house? No, just burned a little bit of the door. It's not a toy. But anyway, I'm just joking around.

But look, I'm really grateful, you know, Jane, you put together something really cool for people. This is something that I think you could do more regularly. I know it takes a lot of time and effort. I really appreciate you all being here. And Ryan, as well, look, we're fans of your work, man. You know, you are a hard worker, both of you. And so it's so cool to see everybody coming at this from a good place and a place of wanted to get knowledge. And I'm grateful for Dave Foley.

He's got a loud voice. Who isn't? Who isn't grateful for Dave Foley? We're going to laser beam them. But just the fact that you're willing to talk about this with us knuckleheads, I really appreciate it. But yeah, that's kind of it. I think that everybody should just push the pause a little bit and dive into things. things they're passionate about and take care of the true priorities, you know, family, friends,

and health and that kind of thing. So that's what's up for me is let's see where this goes, but we're in it together. How about you, Dave? Well, let's see. Well, one thing I would like to get back to learning more about all of these subjects that we've been talking about today. On a professional level, I'm going to have to get back to work on the kids in the whole TV series that we were in the middle of writing when this all started. But my main thing is I'm looking forward to getting back outside and licking strangers because it's something I used to really enjoy. You'd be surprised how different strangers taste. Not going to dive into that one, Foley.

So that's it. That's that. We're going to end it. We'll end it on that one. We're going to go find Foley going around and smelling strangers the second it's legal to do it again. Oh, not smelling them. I'm licking them. Licking them. I'm looking that. I'm not an animal. I'm not a, I'm not a I couldn't think of a better way to end this than with me. That was perfect. Yeah, let's just thank you everybody for joining in for live chatting. Sorry if we didn't get to your questions. But I know all these folks are out there on social.

So go ask them there. Go buy something online if you can from some UFO alien inspired. Go listen to Ryan's podcast. Go watch Jeremy's movie. Go check out kids in the hall when it comes out. Thank you guys. Thank you. This is awesome.

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