Somewhere in the Skies - Uninitiated: A Family's Journey Through UFO Phenomena

Episode Date: August 20, 2023

On episode 331 of SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES, we hear from longtime listener and UFO witness, @CuriousCre4ture about she and her family's experiences with various types of UFO phenomena.We hear the powerful journey that she has been on to try to understand the deeply enigmatic phenomena that continues to stare back at her from somewhere in the skies.  Follow CuriousCre4ture on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/CuriousCre4ture  Join us at ANOMACON 2023: www.anomacon.com Order Ryan’s new book: https://a.co/d/4KNQnM4 Patreon: www.patreon.com/somewhereskies Website: www.somewhereintheskies.com YouTube Channel: CLICK HERE Book your Cameo video with Ryan at: https://bit.ly/3kwz3DO Official Store: CLICK HERE Buy Somewhere in the Skies coffee: https://bit.ly/3rmXuap Order Ryan’s older book: https://amzn.to/3PmydYC Email Ryan directly at: [e-mail] Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryansprague51 Twitter: @SomewhereSkies Instagram: @SomewhereSkiesPod Read Ryan’s Articles by CLICKING HERE Opening Theme Song, "Ephemeral Reign" by Per Kiilstofte Copyright © 2023 Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/somewhere-in-the-skies. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Anomalous. September 1st in the 2nd on YouTube and Twitter X. Find out more at Anomicon.com. Anomicon, a Somewhere in the Skies podcast production. This is Somewhere in the Skies with Ryan Spread. For the listeners out there, I go by Curious, so that's how I'll be referring to myself. I just want to start off by saying, thank you so much for giving me the platform to be able to share my and my family's story. We've been having UFO sightings and experiences with what some people

may call the phenomenon for about a year now. And so it's been a pretty long and confusing process for us. It's, you know, it's been frightening at times and stressful. But being able to talk about it and share what we've been through has been really honestly therapeutic and validating. And so I just want other people to know that are out there and having these same sightings that they're not alone. And so this is a very real phenomenon that I think a lot of people are going to start taking a whole lot more seriously. And again, thank you for having me. I can't wait to talk about our sightings. So just a bit of background about me. I grew up in southeastern Virginia for the better half of 15 years of my life. And after graduating high school and heading to college, my family, which is my mom and my sister and I, we relocated to South Texas to be closer to our extended family. So my UAP story kind of begins back in 2021 and early 2022. During that time, it was in quarantine, and at this point, I was living in Dallas in the Dallas area. And so I was just spending a lot of time at home and didn't have too much to do.

So I was on YouTube a lot. And I came across this one interview with Joe Rogan, where he spoke to Bob Lazar about Bob Lazar's supposed background working. on reverse engineered craft at Area 51. And so that interview really piqued my interest in all of this. And I just kind of couldn't stop thinking about it. And I just researched everything I can about UFOs. And after that, there was this 60 Minutes special that came out, I believe, on August 29th in 2021. So over the summer.

And in that interview, it was all about UFOs being regularly spotted off the coast in restricted airspace. And so in that interview, There were some, you know, qualified pilots and commanders who told their stories, including Alex Dietrich and Ryan Graves and Commander Fravor and Louis Alizondo and Christopher Mellon were also in that piece. And one of the pilots actually who told his story was Ryan Graves. And he's from Virginia Beach, my hometown. And so that really made this kind of topic personal to me and something I felt like was real. Because, you know, people are seeing these things off the coast of my hometown, like what?

And so I just became really interested in UFOs after that. And soon after that, after researching more and more, I came across this man named Stephen Greer, who was one of the, I believe, founders of C-SETI, and he coined this term CE5, I believe. And CE5 stands for close encounters of the fifth kind. And there are close encounters of the first, second, third, fourth, and fifth kind. And basically what they cover is encounters and interact. that people have with the phenomenon or with ET, and it's all about how humans can meditate and attempt to contact or interact with or communicate with a UFO, a craft, or something of that

matter. And so I found his documentary called Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind, which came out in 2020. And after hearing that he said that people can actively call UFOs and try to see one and have a citing for themselves, I was like, I don't want to do that. So that was just something I'd always been on my mind. And all of that info kind of coalesced and made me really interested in UFOs. And at this point, I was like really committed. Through the end of 2021, I never attempted CE5 meditation. It is this technique where people can, you know, attempt to sit down in a group and just state their intention to see a craft or UFO and call them in and hopefully have a peaceful sighting. And so I'd never tried it in 2021, but I never had my first sighting until

2022 in March. And that's kind of where the story jumps off for me. So on the night of my first sighting, believe it or not, this happened the very night that my family moved from Dallas to a new area here in South Texas. And so we were going through this huge tree. transition and on that same night we saw our first kind of phenomena or our first observable, as some people call them. This night we were hanging out at, I would call it House 1. We were hanging out at like a family home and we had had dinner and we were getting ready to leave and head to House 2, which is another family home. And this night I was actually driving home. It was my mom, my sister and and we were on this highway down here in South Texas. And I was in the driver's seat. Again, we hadn't, you know,

meditated or attempted C.E5. So at this point, this sighting that we had was just completely random and uninitiated. And so we were driving along the highway headed to House 2. And at one point, we were approaching a stop sign. And right above our car, this bright, fast moving orange orb, and so it's like a ball of light. It moved and kind of shifted quickly from the right to the left, so east to west. And it flew extremely fast. It zipped above us, and it was only one light. And in that moment, my mom and I kind of flipped.

This was at like 7 p.m., so it was pitch blackout. And we saw this orb just fly by. And it flew extremely fast. And it didn't have a tail, so I knew it wasn't. like a shooting star or anything and it was maybe no more than like 300 feet above our car and um my mom and i kind of looked at each other and we were like what was that like that was crazy and um so that was our first sighting of this just orb and um it wasn't something we can track and follow with our eyes it just materialized flew past and then dematerialized and like disappeared and so it was just really unreal

it didn't look like a drone it wasn't you know a shooting star it was far too low it was like, you know, there was an overpass next to us and it was not much higher than the overpass. So it was close to the ground and my mom and I was dumbfounded that we saw this and my sister was actually in the backseat and she was jealous. She didn't see it. But that was our first sighting and it was un-initiated so we hadn't meditated. It was just like the orb was just saying hi, hello, welcome to South Texas. And so it was kind of crazy to see. And what's kind of funny detail about that is right when,

the orb flew past us. This song by Billy Elish called Halley's Comet played on the radio on shuffle and then a song after that called Fallen Star by the Neighborhood played. So it was a kind of funny synchronicity, almost like these pop songs were like in the car with us and knew what just happened or whatever. But it was a really interesting experience. And that was our first sighting. And that was March 9th of 2022. And that was the beginning of all of this. So that first sighting was a all the confirmation that my, you know, family needed to know that there was something else out there. Our second sighting ever occurred seven months later, so there was no activity over the summer and the spring for us after that first sighting. That was uninitiated and completely random, maybe.

After that, in October of 2022, that same year, my sister and I decided to finally sit down and attempt CE5 meditation, and this resulted in our second siting ever. This night, it was October 21st, 2022, and this was a Sunday, and it was 9.50 p.m. at night, and this was at House 1, and my sister and I decided to do CE5. The process for CE5, there is a protocol and parameters around how to meditate correctly and how to do it in a group, and there are certain directions, but I didn't have access to them, so we kind of just winged it, which I don't recommend. It's not maybe the smartest thing to do, but nonetheless, we winged it. And what we did was we went outside on the kind of porch and we sat down in these two chairs

and we just calmed our bodies and what I do to initiate contact and what we do as our process as we sit down, we calm our bodies and we take like really deep breaths and we kind of clear our mind by not, you know, thinking about what we just had for dinner or what's going to happen tomorrow or, you know, what's on my schedule for this week? Like we just calm our minds, relax our bodies. and what I do as I send out my intention just into the ether to see something or to invite a positive, you know, interaction with the phenomenon or with UAP. I want to emphasize that during, you know, this process is very real and effective. And so I don't want, you know, I want people to know that it's real.

And so what you're doing is very serious and it's not something to joke about. It's not a party trick. And it's real. So anyways, we were sitting down, meditating. And what I do is I visualize where I am in space. So I breathe slowly and I call my body and I visualize where I am in space, visualize where I am from an aerial point of view. And I just kind of zoom out mentally and just visualize where I'm at.

And I project that into the universe. And I just, I ask, you know, I usually say like if you're of love and light and if you're a positive visitor, we welcome you to stop by and, you know, fly by and say hello. and if you're of negative intention, you're not welcome here, return from where you came and be about your way. And so that's what I do. And we had done that process and had been sitting outside and meditating for maybe 15 minutes on and off or like even like five minutes on and off. It's not something you have to drag out. But yeah, we were meditating and we were watching the sky at the same time, just having fun, like making conversation and singing songs honestly. and we were sitting outside for about an hour. So we were determined to see something.

And the first activity we saw in the sky were flashes of light and kind of streaks of light. And as soon as we saw that, we knew something was happening. Like, we knew something was trying to show itself in a way. So we saw flashes of white light. And it looks as if someone was taking a picture high up in the atmosphere. And we saw maybe two or three of those flashes. and then we also saw a phenomenon that kind of looked like a shooting star, but it was quite close to the ground. So we saw like one streak.

And at one point, we noticed this star that was really orange and it looked strange. And it was about maybe like two miles out. And we kind of noticed, we just made note of it because it looks kind of weird. We were like, that's a weird looking star. Like, I've never seen a star like that. And so we just kind of watched it and it sat out there for like 40 minutes. Like the whole time we were out there, that star was there. And at one point, at around 950, this star began to move.

And we were talking to each other, like, asking if we were both seeing this, because we didn't, you know, we didn't know if we were crazy and just seeing things. So I used another star as a point of reference to make sure that this orange star was moving. And, you know, it was. It was moving north very slowly. Again, this is super far away from us. I can't tell you the exact distance, but it looks. to be about like two miles away, very high up in the atmosphere. And so it started moving slowly.

And at that point, we knew we had something, right? So we asked it verbally out loud and in our minds, if you're real or if you're a UFO, come closer to us. And immediately this craft started flying towards us, or a star, it looked like a star at this point. So this orange light was flying towards us. And I couldn't tell you how fast it was flying because it really did get close. to us quite quickly, but anyways, it approached us. And as this orange star approached us, like, it was like a mile out and then a few hundred, or, you know, a few thousand yards out. And this was maybe like 600 feet high up in the air. And as it got closer, as it was over our front kind of neighbor's house, it began to blink. It began to blink like orange, red, and yellow

light. So it was flashing. It was flashing and really getting our attention. And it kept moving closer and just as it was over our front yard the blinking stopped and we could make out just a black triangle and so it was like a small black triangle maybe no bigger than like a small car and so it was a black triangle and at the end like on its tail it had like uh there were a lot of really bright lights there were white yellow green red and orange lights and they were kind of white like really bright in the center and they were just halo that were colorful. You could tell there was a different color to each of them. And I mean, this triangle, it was so high up in the sky. At this point, it was maybe like 300 feet. So it was really close.

But it slowly flew over our heads and directly over our home. And it was silent. It was moving no more than like six, you know, six miles an hour. It was moving super slow. And it wanted to be seen. And honestly, at this point, we weren't kind of, we were kind of like should be going inside. We were frightened. My sister at one point asked me. like, do you think we should go inside? And I said, no, I think it's chill. Because honestly, I wasn't afraid of this thing. It was really quite beautiful, if I can say that. And I was just calm throughout this whole thing. I was just in awe and shock. Like my mouth was open the whole time. And luckily, it got to record a bit of it. It's a crappy video, unfortunately. But I was recording it. And it flew over us.

And in that moment, that was complete confirmation for me that, you know, UFOs were real and that there was something to all of this and we aren't alone and it was just such a surreal moment for me and my sister and being that it was the first night we'd ever tried CE5 meditation and had the successful communication and interaction it was just unreal and um that was one of you know that was our second sighting but it was really one of the most um you know incredible things i'll never forget and this triangle was again it was small it was an isosceles triangle so it was It was dark out, and we could just make out its outline because there were stars in the sky behind it, and the sky was kind of purple at this point, so we could make out the triangle.

And it was I saw a sleaze, so it had two, like the two long sides of it, and then a short, you know, back. And so it was, you know, an interesting shape, and it flew over us. It was completely silent. It wasn't a plane. We would have heard it at that height. And, yeah, we just had, that was our second sighting. and it was a black triangle and it was unreal. So after my sister and I made successful contact that first night,

after meditation, on October 23rd, the next few days, we were really excited to get outside and continuing to meditate. And so October 28th, this all happened in the span of like one week where we had just siding after siding after siding, and they were escalating. But on October 28th, we sat outside around the same time that we meditated after seeing the triangle and it was 9.35 p.m. And this is the same location. So we were at House 1. And my sister and I were meditating for a bit, just watching the sky, you know, staying focused.

And after a while, we saw like these, you know, light orange orbs in the sky. And typically when we have CE5 sightings, there's always like orange orbs that are flying up way up in the atmosphere. and sometimes they'll flash and sometimes they'll move quickly and sometimes they'll be quite low over our neighborhood. So sometimes those can be mistaken for a satellite. So I usually do have a satellite tracker just to kind of rule that possibility out. But we typically see these orange orbs flying. And I love to see those are really cool to look at. And they just kind of pop up randomly.

And it's really cool because your eyes will catch them right where they appear. I don't know if that's like we're meeting in the middle subconsciously or consciously and just seeing each other. But anyway, so we see these orbs. And so we know we had some action. We were seeing flashes. And so we knew we were going to see something. And at one point, again, at 935, this was a Friday, October 28th. There was this ghost-like figure that flew from right to left above us. And so we're sitting on the porch. And we look up and we see this ghost-like figure. It's this gray kind of translucent shadow. And it wasn't a brook. And it wasn't a were, didn't have wings. It was just this kind of like blob that flew. And the moment we saw it,

it was, it kind of freaked us out. And my stomach dropped because it was just scary. I didn't really feel safe seeing it. And it flew quite aggressively. So it wasn't something we could track. And so that's why that kind of added to the fear factor. It was flying really aggressively and fast. And it was very low to the ground. Again, maybe no more than like 200, 300 feet above us. And I felt felt unsafe after seeing that. And so we kind of got into the screen door. So there's like a screen door on this house one. And so we got into the screen door and kept looking outside. And my sister said she saw the shadow move kind of down. So it went north to south at like flying at street level. And so at this point we ended contact and we said goodbye and good night. Thank you. Like we're good.

And that was our first sighting of an apparition as I call them. And that was quite freaky. you know, now we've just kind of been okay seeing them. I think they're just like an aspect of the phenomenon. And I think they're just around. I don't know what they are. But I actually recorded that gray apparition. And on my phone, it appeared to be like luminous. And so to the naked eye, it was gray. But on the phone, it was quite luminous. And so you could make it out. And I slowed the video down and took a few screenshots. And it actually looks like a figure. Like you could like, it looks like you could like, it looks like you can. make out like a head and shoulder. So it looks like a spirit, like a stereotypical ghost. And so that was one of our sightings. And since then, we typically see, again, those apparitions every time we have a sighting and have just gotten used to seeing them. And we just emphasize that we're protected. And there's, you know, love and light surrounding us always. And I just feel kind of, we felt safe seeing them now because we just feel like, you know, we're pretty secure and, you know, seeing them. So I don't typically enjoy seeing the apparitions and that's why I want to emphasize that,

you know, again, we don't know what we're contacting. It's, you know, you kind of open yourself up to this whole galactic neighborhood of entities. So this is a really, you know, risky process to do. And I don't you know, I don't too much recommend it for more people. But anyways, we've had success doing it. And, you know, it's important to always trust your gut and feel safe. And if you don't, feel safe with what you're seeing or you feel scared in a situation, then listen to your body. And that's what we do. And just be sure to state your intention and put it out there. If you don't want to see it again, say that and set those boundaries. You know, who knows if they're going to listen or not, but it's important to set those boundaries.

And that's important. So that was our third siting. Our fourth siting occurred, I believe, two days later. So this was October 30th. And again, we were just excited. Like, we were on the go, like, doing C-E-5 every other night. was just, you know, wild to see these things. And so October 30th, 2022, it was a Sunday. We were wanting to practice CE5 in the daytime. And we hadn't done that yet. So we were excited to try it out. And my mom, my sister and I were all present. So my mom was there. And we just meditated and sat outside and we were talking for a bit. I think I had my coffee with me. And we were just watching the sky. And we actually saw these white spheres. They were silent.

they were very, very high up in the atmosphere. Again, I don't know if they were actual white spheres, but I did record some of them. And, you know, it was quite interesting to see, and they did make noise, and they were moving kind of erratically, and there were a lot of them. So, again, I don't know if this is prosaic.

I don't know if there's a prosaic explanation. They could have been birds. I don't know. But nonetheless, that was our kind of fourth interaction with seeing something in the sky. So in between my citing on October 20, in October 30th. So this was in between the time that my sister and I saw the apparition. And between the time my sister and I saw, my sister mom and I saw the spheres in the daytime,

I actually witnessed a metallic orb that flew about 12 feet over my head at nighttime. And I've only seen an orb, a metallic orb once. And during that night, I was on the porch, just kind of hanging out by myself, watching the sky. I don't typically do CE5 by myself. and we usually do it as a group. But this night I was just standing outside. I wasn't really meditating. I was just waiting to get into the car. And it was pitch blackout.

And all of a sudden, I saw this huge, you know, not huge. It was a volleyball-sized metallic ball that flew over our house and over our neighbor's house. And I was kind of located in between the two homes. And it just flew over my head like 12 feet above me. And this metallic orb, it was silent. it was perfectly round and i always call it the catalact because it reminds me of those chrome um hubcaps on like vintage cars and um yeah that sighting was incredible i don't know what it was um but i did see it quickly and it was honestly stunning to see it was um surprising again i was by myself so it was

wild to see. I wasn't afraid of it, but it just happened so fast that I just took note of it. And that was my only time seeing a metallic orb, and I believe my sister said she's seen those as well. So that's another interesting phenomenon that's present. So after seeing the daytime spheres and the apparition in the metallic orb, my family had our fifth sighting, which occurred on November 4th, 2022, and it was a Friday at 8.41 p.m. at night. This is when we saw a fleet of orbs over our home. So this night, my family had been meditating for maybe like an hour, two hours. We were really determined to see something this night. And my mom, my sister and I were outside just hanging out. And this was after we had had dinner. And I do have to mention earlier that day,

we were walking in the park, our county park that's kind of near Home 1. And, you know, we had been thinking about UFOs all day really and we were just kind of making jokes like looking up at the sky and pointing at the moon and seeing if we were looking for activity and this was before the sun had gone now this was at like dawn and so we were just having fun walking in the park and then we went home had dinner and now we're outside on the porch meditating um we had been meditating again for almost like two hours we were just hanging out watching the sky singing songs talking about life and um we were not seeing much at all. We had seen a few orange orbs fly by, really high up in the sky. And so we were just kind of, you know, tired, ready to go in. And the second we turned around to go inside,

we heard this single-engine crop duster airplane flying super low to the ground. It sounded like it was directly above us, above our home. And so we're like, whoa, what the heck is that? And we turned our backs to look up. And we found what looked like a plane flying above our home super low. I mean, you could almost feel the air brushing our faces and we saw this plane. But to the left of it is what caught our eye. And flying adjacent to this plane was a fleet of about 80 orbs. And they were flying in a horseshoe formation. They were completely silent. They were white in color, had no tail. They were just perfect spheres and perfect balls of light. And they were, they were, they were, have been like 80 flying in two rows of like 40 and so they flew by no more than I have to say like 40 feet

above our neighbor's home so they wanted to be seen and they were just flying extremely fast and we flipped we freaked it felt like they were going to like pick us up or something and the last thing I want to do was like be abducted or something so we freaked out ran inside we looked at it from no more than like a few seconds like milliseconds because we were just so afraid of what we're seeing and it was so loud because we had that engine in our ear and so we kind of freaked out um so we ran inside my mom left her shoes on the porch she left her purse like we you know flipped and the adrenaline i will never you know i really can't even put into words the adrenaline you feel when you see something like that it looked like something straight out of star wars and there's no frame of reference

you can compare this to and so your body just doesn't know how to react and i've noticed that when we have these sightings. It's almost as if your fight or flight is just confused and stunned. And, you know, it's incredible to see these things. So it's really, you have to listen to your body. So we just ran inside. And we weren't afraid of the massive, like, fleet of orbs. We weren't afraid of it. But we were just afraid of what could happen, the potential of something happening. Because it looked like they were so close to the ground and might hit us, honestly. That's what kind of freaked us out. So we ran inside. And my sister and I drew pictures of what we saw. My mom didn't get too good of a look at it. So that was incredible. And, you know, that was our largest siding

was seeing this fleet of orbs. And I'm sure that the plane we saw, they must have caught the fleet on radar and had been tracking it or following it is what I believe. And that was just so surreal. And I'll never forget the look on my mom's face after coming inside and seeing that. And, you know, there's an aspect to these UFO sightings, since the phenomenon that's quite, like, like tricky, like they're kind of, they're tricksters. As I mentioned, we were getting ready to go inside and right as our backs were turned, this massive fleet of orbs pops by, like almost to say, ha, gotcha, you know, we're here. You know, you thought you wouldn't see something tonight, but now you are. And so they popped up and I think there's a minute awareness of our consciousness that

these phenomena have. That's what the sense I get, especially being that we're able to meditate and almost call them in through our minds. I think there's definitely a tether there. I don't know what it is. But, you know, seeing these things and having, they almost have like a personality to them and being able to, I don't want to humanize them, but, you know, being able to pop up and they can almost play hide and seek with you. It's a very cat and mouse and it's a very, you know, tangible interaction that's happening there that feels like, you know, a two-way street. So it's interesting to see. and they're quite, you know, aware of when we're able to see something. And typically when my family does have these huge sightings, we're all together.

And so I think they're aware of how comfort, you know, our comfort levels. And I think they do show up when we're together and comfortable and not, you know, too easy to freak out. So it's a really interesting experience. And that was one of our biggest sightings. And I'll never forget it. And something an interesting note about this sighting is that that next afternoon, Saturday on the fifth, with 2022, we had this huge Chinook helicopter fly over our house and our neighborhood, and it circled kind of the area. And then I think there was like another helicopter that flew in after that. So

I don't know if they had touched the fleet of orbs on radar. It was really low in the atmosphere, so I don't know if it would even be able to pick up. But I assume that the plane that we saw, the single engine aircraft that was next to the fleet, I believe they were tracking it and following it. And they may have made a report. And I think that's what prompted this helicopter, military helicopter, to fly over. We are near a base, so I'm sure they were able to fly these things out here. And that was a really interesting point. And so maybe they caught it on radar, and it happened.

And that was, you know, one of the biggest headings we'd ever had. And I'll never forget it. So throughout this experience with a phenomenon, we've learned that the phenomenon kind of sticks to you. way. They kind of follow you around. And there's a term for this. I believe that kind of came from, I think, a show called Skinwalker Ranch or something like that. But it's called the hitchhiker effect. And it's where once you have an interaction with the phenomenon, they'll kind of follow you around in a way. And they're aware of where you are in space at any and all times. And it does sound scary, but, you know, we don't always have sightings and see them. But we can kind of notice that they just follow us. Like we went on vacation in another part of Texas. and we were seeing orbs when we were sitting by the pool. So, and we didn't meditate. So we were just having uninitiated sightings. And that's typically what describes the hitchhiker effect is just an uninitiated, you know,

appearance of a craft or of an entity. And that's been something that we've, you know, learned to be true. And that happens. And so we'll see, you know, craft nightly typically. And it's definitely something that's been taking a lot of adjusting to. But that is a kind of side effect of. of this phenomenon and meditation. The Summer in the Sky's podcast

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This was a Tuesday at 9.45, so at this point we're seeing these things at night. And yeah, so at this night, there was a play that I had at my school. And after this, my mom and my aunt went to pick up some food at this restaurant near my campus. And so after picking up the food, we were in the parking lot, and it was, again, really dark out. And we were walking to the car. And all of a sudden, I see these lights kind of out of the corner of my eye behind some trees that were behind a fence next to the restaurant. And I'm looking at these lights, and they're blue, white, red, and I think green, if I'm remembering correctly, blue, white, and red. I'll just say blue, white, and red, because that's what I remember clearly. But there were these lights

just kind of flickering around the trees. And I, they kind of caught my eye and my mom didn't see it. My aunt didn't see it. They were walking ahead of me. Um, and I was watching these lights. And I noticed all of a sudden they come around those trees around the tree line. And it's a craft. And I see this, it's almost like a spinning top shape craft. And it's in the shape of kind of like a dreidel in a way or almost like not an egg, but kind of that look to it. And it had lights on all around it. there were like three, four rows of lights that were spinning and turning on executively. So they were kind of, not exactly, but consecutively. They were turning on in an order like, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo.

And they were spinning and there were lights moving all around it. And it was making a beeline towards me. Again, at this point, I wasn't meditating. This was just a hitchhiker sighting that it just saw me and wanted to interact and almost engage with me. And when I saw this craft, I wasn't afraid of it. I was in shock. And I was just laughing the whole time because I was like, how was no one seeing this?

There were other people in the parking lot. I looked at this family who was right by the door. They didn't look up. They didn't see it. My mom didn't see it. So I guess it was just meant for me this interaction. And yeah, so this craft made a beeline towards me. And it was quite small.

It was silent. Had no visible wings or means of propulsion. It was not a drone. This was in a residential neighborhood. and it was quite large to be a drone. It was the shape of like, of, it was the size of maybe like a mini fridge or a two-door fridge. And this had to be no more than like 50, 60 feet above me. And it was flying straight at me.

And in this sighting of this like spinning top UFO, as I call it, I recall being kind of like, I was, I wasn't afraid of this thing, but I was laughing at it. It was flying very erratically and kind of like, like swinging almost. I always say it's almost like kids were flying it. Like I felt like if there are aliens in there, there are little kids flying it. It was just so funny how, you know, how, geez, how irresponsibly open out in the open this craft was. And so it was just funny. I felt as if it had like a, you know, like a pet energy, like your dog running towards you or playing with you. It felt very playful. And it wanted to engage with me. And I didn't pick up my phone. It was in my

person I was holding the takeout in my hand, so I couldn't move quick enough to record it. I'm happy to go back and see if the restaurant has any CCTV footage of it. I'd love to see if they do. But anyways, I kind of flipped. It was coming towards me, and at this moment, I hopped in the car. I went around the car into the driver's side and got in the back seat because I didn't know if it was going to pick me up or like zap me. So I went in the car and didn't look for it.

As we were driving off, I was looking for it in the sky to see if it was following us. and I don't think it was. I didn't see it. But yeah, I'll never forget the sighting, and that was the closest I'd ever physically gotten to a craft of any kind. And it was surreal, and it was honestly, I'd call it kind of like a peaceful siding. It was interesting, and I'll never forget that night, and I wish I'd recorded it. That's the thing about so many of these sightings is that I don't get them on camera. And if I had, they'd probably be crappy videos, but that was my spinning top siding. So as people say, a lot of things come with a cost.

And I will say that as much fun as this meditation process was, the hitchhiker effect and having craft follow us around was quite frightening and stressful at times. I will say that when there's activity in the sky or when a UAP is around, you can kind of feel it. I speak for my mom and sister and saying that your heart rate. kind of increases. And so even if you're not seeing UFOs, you can sense them. And I think this may be a kind of primal reaction to, you know, the phenomenon and almost like a survival instinct, how we can just feel them now. And so at this point, again, we were seeing craft on a daily basis. It had been, it started in October and through November, we were just seeing craft over and over and

over again and our sightings were just definitely increasing and increasing in frequency and increasing in the size of the craft we were seeing each time we went outside so um it's quite frightening and at this time I was you know walking around campus at night and sometimes I was afraid I was going to be followed or followed by craft and I was afraid I was going to get picked up or something like that and it was quite frightening and I was getting I wasn't getting sleep I was having a hard time falling asleep at night and I actually started sleeping with a night light and I just wasn't comfortable in the dark because I felt like they might be outside my window. They might be outside right now and I can't do anything about it and you just kind of feel powerless. And even if we weren't meditating, they were still popping up and still trying to engage.

And so even without our permission, so it felt kind of, it was tiring and it was exhausting. And at this point, I was having finals before Christmas break. And so I just couldn't, I couldn't bear it. And I wasn't sleeping and I was having terrible anxiety. I already have generalized anxiety as it is. And I'm not medicated for it. So I just physically, mentally, it was taking its toll on myself and my family. So after my last sighting November on campus, our near campus, we decided to take a break from CE5 and meditation as a whole. And throughout December and early January of this year, 2023, we stopped. doing CE5. And honestly, throughout this time where we stopped, I've honestly never felt better.

We stopped seeing, you know, craft fly by low. And so we just kind of stopped looking up in general. And we weren't initiating contact throughout this time. And we stopped sitting outside and we just kind of slept and got some better sleep. And during this break period, I did realize that they weren't showing up. So they were almost respecting our wishes to not see them, which was pretty cool. Um, and after a while, you know, after getting a bit better sleep and feeling a bit better physically, mentally, um, we actually talked about how we missed them. Um, we missed seeing these craft. And sometimes just we kind of jokingly call them our buddies because they do have like a, I don't know, there's, they feel like, I don't know, I don't know, personalize them, but they do feel like close in a way. And we just call them our buddies just as a fun kind of thing. But, um, we miss seeing our buddies. And, um, in February, um, um, of this year, 2023, we decided to start up CE5 again. And we did. And this was February 17th is when we started meditating once again doing CE5. And this night we saw this massive flashing orange orb. Again, it had no tail. It was silent. And it flew maybe like a thousand, two thousand feet in the

sky above our neighbor's home. And it was flashing and very bright and very large. And I got it on video and I posted it to my Twitter account called Curious Creature. And so that was our seventh sighting after taking a break. And we just knew that we still had our connection. It was still there. And so we had our sighting of the flashing orange orb. And after that, the kind of interacts with the phenomenon shifted. And it became a whole lot more personal and close and interesting. So I can't wait to talk about that. So after that night, we started doing CE5 again. This was just one night we started. In that same month, February and March, my mom, she hadn't told me, you know, as like the day it happened, she didn't tell my sister and I about it. But she mentioned to my sister and I that she actually saw a female apparition appear in the corner of the room one night, like really early morning, like at 4 a.m.

So she woke up out of her sleep and she just saw this like robed woman standing in the corner. She said she appeared to be like African and had a scalloped crown on and it was just she was just staring at my mom inquisitively. And my mom really freaked out. She prayed, closed her eyes and just like prayed for it to go away. And she opened her eyes again and it was gone. And so that was the first time any of us had had any sighting of like a humanoid type entity figure. And again, she wasn't too quick to tell my sister and I that this had happened. And so it's something we kind of had to get out of her after we had another sighting that we shared with her interaction.

And she shared this with us. And I've heard stories of people having Marian apparitions of seeing this female figure. And so I knew it wasn't something that was completely different or out of the realm of possibility. And so she just talked about that. And we just made note of it. And that was an incredible thing to hear. And she said she didn't say anything. I asked my mom if the woman or figure blinked.

But she said it she couldn't remember because it just freaked you out. And she closed her eyes immediately and prayed for it to go away. And it did. And so she said it was almost translucent. Like it looked like the figure was actually a person standing in the room. But there wasn't any light to it. It was like gray and kind of clear and translucent, pretty much like a ghost. And so that was her, you know, female aborician sighting.

So the next month in March, this is after or maybe during the time my mom saw this apparition, my sister and I were visiting home from school and we were actually hanging out in the same room and we were going to sleep one night. Again, there were other people in the house, but everyone was asleep and my sister and I were maybe up at like 3 a.m. So we were going to bed really late. This was maybe around like 2 a.m. actually. We were going to sleep and we were in the same bed and we were in the same bed. We were back to back, and all of a sudden we heard this woman's, like, a broken voice. It sounded like it was next to us or all around us or above us and just in the room. We heard this clear as-day female voice saying, ah, ah, ah. And so we heard this voice almost saying like, no, no, no, in a playful tone.

And this was the first time we'd ever heard something. So, again, we're seeing orbs, we're seeing craft. And now my mom is seeing a humanoid kind of ghost-looking thing. Now we're hearing voices. So everything's kind of escalating and changing. The way we're interacting with a phenomenon is morphing and maybe even progressing, I'd say. And so my sister and I heard this broken voice in the middle of the night. And we kind of freaked out.

We asked if it was one another. I asked my sister. I was like, did you hear that? Like, what did you say? And my sister asked me, I thought that was you. Like, she thought I had asked her something, but I didn't. And we both heard this voice. and it was all around us.

It sounded like it was in the room. It was a very light and airy voice. It was playful. And we weren't frightened. Like it spooked us for sure, but we weren't afraid of it. We just kind of let it be acknowledged it and fell asleep. Like we did not want to, you know, poke any further. So we just let that voice be.

And so that was the night we heard a female voice. And my mom actually said she'd heard that same voice later on. and a few days later during the day. And so this is something that we've all heard and had interactions with. And that was the most strange, incredible interactions we've had with the phenomenon. And now, obviously, the phenomenon's kind of in our personal space.

And so despite our putting up this boundary and not even doing CE5, again, we were getting an interaction that was uninitiated. And so it did kind of feel like an invasion of our space in a way, but not in a threatening way, if that makes sense. It is frightening, so it is kind of weird, but, you know, we're very aware of the risk we take in doing this. And, you know, if you do try C.E5, you will, you know, you don't know what you're inviting into your space and into your area. And at one point, I did kind of sage our house because I was just, you know,

kind of, I was feeling uneasy about everything. So I just wanted to kind of, you know, claim our space and put love and light into us and energy and just feel protected. And so, I took those measures into my hands, and that was our kind of ninth interaction with the phenomena. So our next sighting after hearing the female voice occurred May 30th of this year. So this is when my mom, sister and I one night at 926, this was on a Tuesday, we were at House 2, and we had to get something out of the car. We actually just arrived at House 2, and so we parked the car on the street, and we were headed up into the garage and we dropped some stuff inside the house and then for some reason we had to go back outside and my sister was grabbing something from our car that was on the street and right as we

went outside I don't know why I pressed record I guess divine timing you can call it but we each we all saw these green orbs that appeared and materialized and they were just feet in front of our faces. Again, this was on a hill, so our garage is kind of on a slant. And so we were standing at the top of the hill, and I was, I luckily got these on camera, but there were these green orbs and their luminous made no noise. They were not drones. There were these three individual orbs that appeared to us. And one of them kind of looped around a tree that was next to our home, and it looped around the tree. We made eye contact with it. I recorded it. And, And it floated. This was like 70 feet above the ground. This green orb had no tail. It zipped around the tree. Got very close to us no more than like 20 feet away. And in the air it kind of hovered. And then zip down. It dematerialized and popped up and like showed up a few feet below its original position. And then it flew to the left like crisp very cleanly. It was just, you know, immediate movement. And we saw that orb.

and then one was kind of getting close to my sister on the left side, and she flinched right when she saw it, and I see flinched almost to react to her, the green orb that was getting close to her, zipped away, like saying, like, sorry or something like that. And we saw three orbs total. And this was in the summer, and again, I recorded it, and they were not fireflies.

I grew up again in southeastern Virginia and grew up seeing fireflies and playing with them at nighttime. time. But these lights were not the color of fireflies. They were a really bright green. They were a bit larger. And the way they flew was not kind of consistent with bugs. They stayed lit, unlike fireflies do. They flash, and they can't stay lit for very long. They're a bit erratic. These green orbs that we saw were flying smoothly. They had a set direction they were going in, and they just stayed lit and it was unbelievable. And there was a synchronicity to the sighting actually earlier that day.

I was speaking with another experiencer who talked about seeing green orbs that actually materialized into actual beings. And so it's interesting that I was speaking with someone about seeing these green orbs and then that same night they show up to me and my family. So I don't know if that was a conscious, like, kind of like telepathy thing or sending of information that happened there or some kind of exchange. But nonetheless, we saw green orbs after I had spoken to another person about their sighting of them. And so that happened. And we didn't feel threatened by them, but it wasn't new.

This is our first time seeing green orbs. And this was our first time seeing orbs so close to us. We could, like, reach out and touch them. And so that was one of our, you know, most surreal sightings. Again, each one is incredible, but this was our 10th siting of Green Orb, something incredibly new. So after taking our break, the phenomena has definitely morphed into kind of different, you know, apparitions, forms, shapes, whatever, you know, whatever have you. And so that was our 10th sighting that happened on May 30th. All right.

So after seeing the green orbs, our most recent sighting that has happened closest to me recording this audio happened on July 26. So this was maybe like a week ago, actually, July 26th of this year. And this was at 1018 p.m. So this night, we decided to do CE5 at House 1. My mom, sister and I sat outside, hung out for like an hour, just looking at the sky, breathing, said, our intention, you know, talking about just setting out our protection of ourselves and imagining like a white light around us. And we just felt secure. And we were meditating for a while. And we saw some of the orange orbs fly by a hip in that atmosphere. Some of them could have been satellites. Some of them may not have been. But nonetheless, we saw a few. And that was about it. We didn't see anything. Kind of disappointed that night. But we were really meditating hard and just kind of being focused in our, you know, determination to see something. But again, we didn't see anything after sitting on the porch for an hour and hanging out. So after this, we decided to head home.

And my mom, or sorry, my sister and I decided to drive home before my mom had left House 1. And so we were kind of by ourselves driving to House 2. And again, this is after we'd meditated, didn't see anything at House 1. But as we approached House 2, my sister and I were about two blocks away from House 2, and we could see this massive orange light just hovering over our house. And I looked at her and I said, oh my gosh, like, are those the buddies? Like, what is this? And we kind of didn't want to think that a craft was hanging out over our house, but it was.

And we were driving closer to our house. We made it inside the neighborhood. We could still see this light. We had our eyes on it. And as we went down the hill to approach House 2 and approach the garage and driveway, this light was just floating. It was massive. It looked like a star. It was very close to the ground.

There are these massive kind of telephone poles near us. But again, we're on this huge hill, so the height of everything is kind of skewed. So I couldn't give you a general estimate. of how tall the pole is in comparison to where the light was. But this orange, I believe it was craft because I kind of could make up something behind it. But this orange light craft was just hanging out over our house. And again, this could be frightening to some people because, you know, we were meditating at House 1. Nothing was there.

And instead of materializing at House 1, this craft decided to show up over House 2, where we sleep and where we stay, and it decided to just kind of pop up there. I wasn't afraid of it. My sister was kind of afraid of the craft, but I wasn't. And I think she may have been afraid, too, because we didn't have my mom there to support us in this experience. And so, nonetheless, she was afraid of it. I wasn't. And so I kind of looked at it. It was, you know, we were just awestruck because we had been meditating, didn't see anything. And turns out, I guess because of the effect of our meditation and how determined we were, this thing just materialized in a whole another location. So they heard us, they heard our communication being sent out, but they decided to

pop up at our house. And so again, this, I just want to emphasize that they know where you are as an experiencer at all times and they're able to find you and, you know, predict where you're going to be and follow you. So anyways, this was floating outside of our house and as if to say goodnight and end communication and end to the sighting. As we were going down the hill, approaching the bottom of the hill where our driveway is, the orb kind of went over this tree line and kind of slowly flew away from us. Again, it was silent. No wings, no sound, no flashing, just a clear orb. And it was kind of flying behind the tree line. And we were going down and it was going away. And we were, as we got to the bottom of the hill, we lost sight of it. And it was as it was as a zizant. And it was as it. if the craft was just kind of respecting our kind of fear in a way and saying goodbye, good night, I see each other, we heard you, we decided to show up here instead and goodbye. And so that kind of ended our interaction in the sighting of that orb. But again, that was one of the most incredible sightings we've had. And it was a different interaction in the sense that they didn't show up where we

were in space, but decided to show up at another location where we were headed. So they knew where we were going, knew where we lived. I don't know if they can sense where our, our energy is or if they're just in our consciousness kind of, you know, dictating and knowing where we're kind of being. And it almost as if sent a signal that, you know, we know everything. We know all. So in a sense, that's kind of what we learned from that night. And we do live kind of near an airport and there was a plane that flew by no more than like five minutes after that sighting. So they may have caught it on radar or just have seen it like the pilot and maybe reported it. But nonetheless, less. That was an interesting sighting for us, and that was the most recent siting we've had.

And we haven't done CE5 since. Just kind of have been, you know, hanging out and just, you know, living life and we're getting ready to start school again. So my sister and I have been kind of busy on the humdrum of getting that started again. But this was our most recent siting, and it was incredible as the last and as the last and as the last. And that was our last interaction with the phenomenon so far. So that was an incredible thing. And that was our last sighting in 11th. sighting since the start of everything. And yeah, that kind of concludes our timeline of seeing UAP and interacting with phenomenon up to present day. So after recording this, I realized that I left out one detail of the phenomenon, and that is that there is a connection we've noticed between

birds, specifically owls and our sightings. So typically when we see a craft or when we do CE5. These big birds will perch on homes or on light posts near our area and just sit and hang out. I know the night that we saw the green orbs, an owl, huge owl flew and perched on our neighbor's home and kind of faced us and just sat there for a while. And really wild detail, but I had to mention this. After I was done recording the audio, me talking about my sightings for this podcast. I actually went outside to move my car and this massive, massive owl flew directly over my head. It was beautiful and huge. And I mean, its wingspan was unreal. And it was just flew really close above me. And I feel like, you know, there's a connection there. I just sat down for like an hour talking about my sightings.

And then this owl flies over my head right when I go outside. I think that was, I don't know, connected. But there's definitely a connection between birds and the phenomenon. I think it'd be really interesting to to have scientists study that and maybe figure out what that is. It's really interesting and makes me look at history a bit differently when it comes to owls used in imagery and depictions of different histories and religions. So nonetheless, that's that. So what I've learned from doing CE5 and from having sightings of UFOs and craft and UAP is that there's something out there that exists,

There are others. I don't know if they're spiritual entities or if they may be just interdimensional. If they can manifest, you know, they are manifesting physically in the environment, I believe. I don't think this is a projection of a thought or of a sighting that's just put into our minds. I think they are kind of manifesting in this physical realm. You know, there is something that exists. If aliens are flying these things, I don't know. You know, there are, there's an effort within Congress, and a few whistleblowers have come out and stated that they've seen UFOs, pilots have seen these things, and that some people are aware of reverse engineering craft and legacy programs that have, you know, cracked the code of how to use this physics of that, you know, UAP used to fly around to kind of harness within our own government and stuff. And there are sightings all around the world that happen with people.

and I've just learned that this phenomenon is very real and we're not alone. So again, I wasn't a believer in UFOs before this journey. And then I started believing in UFOs and I started kind of considering the possibility that they might exist. And then at one point, I meditated and had a random signing prior to meditating that verified and validated that these things are very real. And so for me personally, as an experiencer who has seen this stuff, I always say that instead of seeing is believing, believing is seeing in terms of UFOs. You have to believe it in order to see these craft. And there's definitely a conscious effort that you have to take in order to see these things.

And some people try to see UFOs and hang out outside. And they try for years and years to see something. And they'll never see anything. But for some reason, my family and myself have just had a kind of easy time connecting with these things. don't know why, but that's just how, that's been our learned experience. And I've learned that there's this interaction and this communication, there's a two-way streak going on. And that whatever it is running these crafts or whatever it is that these entities are, they are aware to see into our conscious, they're able to tap into our emotions and what we're feeling and how we're feeling.

And they're able to know where we are, where we're going within a physical space. And they're deeply connected to us in a conscious way. I don't know how and what that implies. I don't know what kind of energy or technology they're using in order to show themselves, but obviously they're here and I think they're always around. I think for us, my kind of own personal belief in conclusion is that these things are interdimensional. And I think that they occupy a space that we can't see. And I think they're always here. You just have to be able to maybe meditate into your vibration into whatever vibration they're functioning at and you might see them. And so I think that's what this whole phenomenon is. I think they're interdimensional. I think they're always here. And

people have sightings all around the world and this phenomenon is real and it's nothing to joke about. You can contact these things if you're able to, if you're not. Okay. But this journey has not been easy and there's definitely um a conscious aspect to this and this is a conscious phenomena and um just you know they're more advanced than us um psychologically you know psychologically and um technologically they're just more advanced and i don't think we understand them um i wish i did i wish i could you know call a UFO down and ask it ask questions and ask its occupants questions but that's just not um their will or my will at this point so that's where we're at. I've also kind of taken away that I don't think that these craft that we're seeing are made by the U.S. government.

I don't believe we would even have the ability to crack how these things are showing up, like hearing voices in our homes or, you know, seeing these triangular craft like completely silently. No means of propulsion, no engine exhaust. I don't think we've cracked that yet. And the fact that they only showed up after my mom, sister, and I consciously meditated to call them in makes me understand and feel that these craft are listening to our minds. And if the government has a craft that can, you know, beacon someone and hear their minds and just show up, then I'm impressed. But I don't think that's what's going on. I think this is a... This episode is brought to you by Netflix. Most valuable promotions in Netflix are hosting a blockbuster triple headliner Saturday, May 16th.

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And I think throughout human history, I think this phenomenon has always been around and people have seen it and just haven't had the words to describe them. I think, you know, there are many spiritual ways to look at these things and some people say they're demonic and some people say they're angels and there are different perceptions of what these are. But I think we just don't have the science to describe and explain what they are yet. And I think, um, with disclosure and with government transparency that people like David Grush and Ryan Graves and Commander Fravor and every unnamed whistleblower and person within this network of, you know, the know and who know more about this, I think their fight for having the truth be out in the public is so honorable and

necessary because as an American and as a citizen of this planet, I do feel failed. I feel like people need to know that something else is out there. I think the American people are very much ready to understand that reality. You know, after COVID, we've, you know, nothing seems off the table and impossible at this point. And I think our ability to adapt to these truths is more than ever apparent and real. And I think it's important that this stuff is made aware. There's an obvious history two UFOs and two sightings that I think we can't ignore. And, you know, it's been, it's easy as an experiencer to be discouraged from talking about what you've seen and what you've been through. And for many people, their interactions can be quite traumatic. And, you know,

I've, you know, I've had trouble sleeping and I've had a few nightmares related to my sightings and that I'm not, you know, I'm afraid to talk about because I don't want people to think I'm crazy. but I think that people just need to have a space and need to have resources available, mental health resources available to be able to share what they've been through and talk about it with people. And I think for me, what's been quite healing for myself and my family is sharing our videos to my Twitter account and connecting with other people around the world who have seen the same thing, done the same thing, and who are actively going through this. It's been healing and it's been, you know, I just want people to know and people out there who maybe have been

these things and not talked about them. I want them to know that you aren't alone and that this is very real. You're not crazy. Despite the tinfoil hat stereotype and despite, you know, conspiracy theorist finger pointers who think you believe in space aliens, they just haven't caught up yet. They don't know what we know. And I think that's okay. It's going to take a long time for people to understand this truth and that we're not alone and this reality. But it's going to happen. It has to happen at some point. And I think we're in that starting stage of being able to talk about it. And Ryan, I'm just so grateful for you for giving experiences like myself a platform to be able to share what we've been through because this is just priceless. And I appreciate you for having me on.

And I want people to know that more than anything, what I've learned from this is that intention, vibration, kindness, the soul is all so real and very powerful. and I want you to know that if our consciousness is able to connect with something and have it materialize into this dimension, then our mental health and our state and what we think about ourselves, our thoughts, they're all so important and have, you know, an effect on our physical world and in a way that we probably can't even imagine. So just know that love and, you know, keeping yourself calm and healthy and self-love and kind of. and these energies and feelings and, you know, emotions you send out to other people and you connect with people. Um, positivity is powerful and can be shared and just don't hate on yourself, you know, because your mind has so much power over your physical body and over others,

other people's energy. And, um, we are beacons of a power that I think many people aren't aware of. And I think we haven't been told by the powers that be just how people. powerful our minds are and just how powerful our conscious connection with the earth and with people is. And I think that's a truth that absolutely has to be shared. It's angering that more people don't know how powerful our brains are. And I think have yet to understand the true, true meaning of what this all implies. And I just want people to know that you're not alone. This, you know, UFOs are real and above all, treat yourself kindly. And if you aren't ready to interact with, you know, the, you know, phenomenon, then don't do it. It's not something that's easy.

It's been hard. It's been taxing. I still have trouble sleeping. This is not a, you know, all fun and games process. It's very real, very true. You don't know what you're inviting in. So you just have to be careful and mentally well and, you know, prepared to be able to deal with the consequences of your actions and your interaction with these beings and entities and have respect for the phenomenon. And I believe it may just respect you back. So yeah, I just want to say thank you again, Ryan, for having me. This has been such a great time sharing what I've been through. And for those of you out there who want to contact me or see a bit about my experiences, I have made a chart on my page about every kind of UFO I've seen with descriptions and detailed explanations of what they

entailed. You can find me on Twitter at Curious Creature. That's capital C, U-R-I-O-U-S, capital C-R-E, the number four, T-U-R-E. And that's my account on Twitter, and you can find me there. And thank you for having me, Ryan. I can't wait to hear more. And somewhere in the skies is an incredible platform, and you're doing great work. So thank you, thank you. And just for everyone out there, we are not alone. Somewhere in the Skies is produced by Third Kind Productions in association with the Entertainment One Podcast Network.