Somewhere in the Skies - Witness Accounts Megasode: Volumes 29-35

Episode Date: March 7, 2025

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My name is Taran and I'm from Melbourne, Australia, which is known for a couple of incidents that have happened here, such as the Westall UFO and the disappearance of Frederick Valentich. I suggest look them up. They're very interesting stories. I'm going to touch on the Westall UFO. or UFO thing later on, because I do have something that is relate to that. So, I've had two experiences, and I'll start with the first one being in 2009.

When I was 15 years old, I was in year 9, it was on a Saturday at 6.30 a.m. I got up at a bed, like something, it felt like something was telling me to get up a bed, and have a look at the window. It's a bit strange. It's like someone was talking to me. I don't know. It's just that it was the first reaction I had. When I sat up,

I could see this silver glimmering in the distance. I looked at this thing and I thought, it's very shiny, whatever it is. And I got up to have sort of like a, more focused look at this thing. And what I could see was a silver disk. It's really shiny. Like the shiniest thing I've ever seen.

Planes aren't normally that shiny, you know? Normally in Australia we see a lot of white Cessnaers that, you know, fly on by. At the time, I was living in Limbrook, which was sort of not countryside, but it was a residential area. not many houses there and anyway I could see the silver disk about

I would say a kilometer away and about 300 meters in the air and the size of it would have been not too big it wouldn't have been that big I reckon it was

maybe 10 meters in diameter and yeah it was very odd because it was just slowly traveling across from the right to the left going at about my guess is

maybe 15 kilometers an hour possibly less than that it was just cruising and I went to sort of look around see if anyone else was looking at it no one was looking at it because of the one on the street it was very quiet

didn't hear any traffic didn't hear any noise from this thing. You know, no sound of rotors or, you know, helicopter blades or anything like that. And I thought it's very odd because this thing would have stalled if it was a plane. And then it goes diagonally. It doesn't stop, but it sort of like stops going in that direction. And it goes right to the left, then it goes back to the right by diagonally up.

and then as it goes diagonally up to the right this whole thing would have been maybe a couple minutes and as soon as it does that this thing

shoots off sort of up and away from where I am and goes into the clouds or it's heading to the clouds but then it does something very interesting

it dematerializes. I know that sounds strange light. You can look up the word, but basically what I mean by that is as soon as it headed for the clouds, it sort of pixelated it away is the best way to describe it. Pixelated away and it was gone.

Like it was just a flash. Like it just decided, I'm out of here. And there was a, it left a hole in the clouds where I was looking at this thing I found that very really strange I shared this story with a couple of people

and you know they they wanted to explain the way and say it was a plane and explain why I wouldn't have been a plane but each their own you know I saw what I saw and then there was another instance that was

even more astounding than this, way more. But I hold that moment dear to me because that made me sort of like a belief in things above what we see right now. But the second instance was in 2013. I wanted to catch up with a friend of mine. I've only been to his house once and it was hard to get there

because he lived pretty far away from me. So I happened to be somewhere in Tyab. and there's an airport nearby there. And I was parking up and inputting something on my GPS. They called us to my friend's place because it was hard to get there. And then as I'm doing this, I happened to just look up. I just looked at the nice guy. It just felt like it.

And I could see these two white lights pretty far away. I'd say about maybe 1.5 kilometres away from where I am which were what looked like definitely attached to a triangle like a black triangle, a solid one and it looked big

it looked like it was maybe 100 mers in diameter like I could see a black triangle so it suspended in the air I could tell because the shape the shade of it was different to the night sky. It was just darker, like a more obsidian black as opposed to night sky black. And the lights were on the corners of this thing, and it was tilting as if it was in anti-gravity or something.

It was really weird. It was just in the same spot, but just sort of tilting, like moving on an axi, like it was rotating. And as it was slowly, slowly rotating. It took about five minutes for me to see the other corner of this triangle, and there was another light on it. So there was a light on each triangle. There was no other lights. That's all I could see.

Step out of the car to have a closer look. I actually took some photos of this thing, which I will send to you, Ryan, as well, along with this recording, of course. And, yeah, I was looking at it with another gentleman who hopped out of this car and I said to him, what do you think this is? Do you think it's military or maybe aliens or something or what do you think? And he goes, I don't want to say me. He goes, I don't know. I don't know what to make of it. It is strange though. I'm trying to identify it. I'm like, so am I, but I mean, you can see it. It's a triangle. And he didn't disagree with me. And he was, he looked like it was too scared to comment.

he goes I'm going to go so he he goes it keeps looking at it but he's really confused I call my friend and say hey can you see this thing I told him about what I was saying pointing him in the direction of where it was and he said yep I can see it from my porch I'm over we need to talk like we need to talk about this thing so I go over and we could both see it and his mom is also looking out at 2 and we're trying to figure out what it is. And while I was with them, I googled Black Triangle UFO, came out with Tier 3B, which is in relation to, you can see some images of a Belgium UFO, which are pretty crazy if they're

real. I don't know, I think it's real to me. I saw a Black Triangle in the sky. It was very odd, very hard to explain. says it's military technology that we reverse engineered. But yeah, how do we reverse engineer it? Yeah, that was a very crazy instance for me. But then also my partner,

she had a very interesting experience that, I think sort of relates to the Wessel UFO incident. If you don't know about it, look it up, 200 people from the school saw a UFO land in a field nearby. That includes kids and teachers who drew diagrams. But yeah, my partner actually went to West School. She went there and she was in line to go to a class. And she was at the front in front of a teacher.

and the teacher was getting the students ready to go inside. There were kids playing on the playground and there was like laughing, you know, all kinds of commotion going on as they're getting ready. My partner sort of looks away for a bit. And then as she looks to the front, the teacher's gone. She looks behind her, the kids are gone. everyone was gone

the noise just stopped at this point she freaks out she was five years old very scared very confused didn't know what to do and sort of like

looked around and called to see if anyone was there is anyone there no one was there so then she decided to go into the building and check

where her class was and as she arrives there everyone's in the class so the really strange thing is literally in one second

everyone's gone it's like five ten minutes have disappeared and she's watching her very own class and she felt like something else happened in that in that time

but she doesn't know what you know, she doesn't know whether it's time travel, whether she got abducted, it is bizarre, it is really bizarre. And I actually said to her, that may have happened. So she's going to see a hypnotherapist for that. And we'll see if we can find out what happened there. But I said to her, I feel like it does relate to the West of UFO thing. and that's because what I believe in is there are certain areas in the world

where a lot of strange things happen I feel like there are certainly interdimensional pockets war poles if you will that we cannot see with the naked eye that filters and let these things in I feel that UAP, UFO-related phenomena are interdimensional. That's why we don't see him all the time.

We'll only see him sometimes. But have a look around the world. Everyone's seen something. Have a look at these hearings that are happening. The stuff is real. You know? I've been a believer for a long time, despite the skepticism,

despite what people have said, I kept it mainly to myself. However, I didn't see the point of doing that when you've got so many people speaking out, you know? For me, the first big one was Bob Lazar and Element 118. Like, you can't predict that in the 80s. And the fact that his employee record was sort of wiped it away, but then there's still traces of it. You know, there's a lot of evidence of brushing us on the carpet as opposed to their not being.

such a thing as UAPs, UFOs, aliens, extraterrestrials, that sort of thing. I mean, who are we to try and sort of remove

those theories? How can we? There's just too many people that have seen it. I heard it. Too much is going on, you know? And people like George Knapp and Jeremy Kulbell are really trying to show everyone what's going on. Ross Kolta from Australia, which is awesome.

I'm glad that my country is involved in this, in a positive light. I guess what helps me keep on going is topics like this, this sort of fascination, the things that keep me sort of exhilarated. You know, I stay up later in night. watching documentaries on the stuff. It's just so fascinating. You know? Not because we could have brothers and sisters out there.

It means something more. It explains... It could be the very foundation of our existence. And I want to know the answer to that. Even if I'm ready for it or not. It's that curiosity. It's the biggest question. in the universe, in my universe at least.

But anyway, thank you for letting me share my story. And I hope this gives everyone else who hasn't disclosed their story to have the confidence to do so. Because our mind's a lot more open now. So I say, go for it. Get off your chest. It'll make you feel better. And anyway, I just wanted to say thank you, Brian, for letting me share my testimony and my witness accounts.

Thank you and have a good night, all day, wherever you are on earth or in the universe. Hey Ryan, thanks a lot for taking my experience into consideration. First of all, I want to make a brief introduction about who I am. My name is Bogdan, but you can call me Dan. I'm from a small town in Northern Romania, and I'm 18 years old. Since I was very, very young, I always had this interest towards space exploration, extraterrestrial research, and almost anything related to science and mystery. but this pleasure of mine was determined by my father who was very intrigued by those

phenomena and he always tried to find an answer and to solve them and his attitude towards the matter determined me to become as well a researcher now it wasn't only the influence of my dad who brought me here You know, in Romania we have a saying that says, What you're afraid of, that's what you don't escape from. It was early 2010. I can't remember the month exactly, but it was definitely winter. Around 8 o'clock in the evening, my mother was coming from work

and my dad was watching out the window after her, but he was also admiring the nice guy, as he was always doing. At the same time, he was also talking to me about school, homework, and other family-related stuff. At some point, I asked him something and I got no answer. I asked again, again and again,

and there was no answer at all. When I went in the room where he was, I saw him watching the sky, but in a way I've never seen before. He was completely frozen. In that moment, he stated something that I will never forget. Come here, son, to see something that even I can believe I just witnessed. And that was the moment I have seen it.

What looked like a disc with a diameter of a one-dollar coin was floating in the sky. It had no sound, it was completely still, and had... had this orange, yellowish color, but what was bizarre was the fact that the color was like being reflected. It was like watching the sun, but of course it didn't have that same intensity. We watched it for about two or three minutes straight. It stood in the exact same position all this time. After a while, its intensity started to lower, but very, very slowly.

and the decrease of its size was concentric, so I think it was rising. At this moment, this could be described as an UAP, but what comes next is really unexplainable. From this gentle lift of the phenomena, it suddenly disappeared in a blink of eye. I can't see even today that moment, and what was intriguing about this disappearance, was the fact it didn't disappear the way it was lifting like concentric.

It made this circular arc on the sky, for the lack of a better word, like a drift movement, a sort of an incredible acceleration. But even with all of this, there was no sound at all. What I felt in that moment can be described otherwise and what you would feel when you would meet ancient gods. Unfortunately, in Romania, the people are very relucant to extraterrestrial life, so I kept this incident as classified as possible. I've only talked about it with my uncle, who is an expert in electronics and mechanics, and of course with my father.

But as a matter of fact, this is not all what I witnessed. I had a more severe incident, but I won't talk about it here. Only if Ryan would like to have a discussion about it on a private call because of safety reasons and to make sure it stays as classified as possible. Until then, thanks a lot for taking my experience into communication. consideration. Wish you all the best. The Summer in the Sky's podcast is free to listen to every week. But if you would like to help support the show, we have a very active Patreon page

where you give what you think the show is worth. In return, you'll get early access to the main show, bonus episodes, and priority to ask our guests your listener questions. Your support truly makes the show continue and grow. So, to learn more and to join visit patreon.com slash somewhere skies. Hi, Ryan. My name is Emmanuel Roach, and I would like to relate to you a few incidences that I believe I've had with UAP slash UFOs and a possible extraterrestrial encounter. So, a little bit of background on me. I grew up in a small fishing village in Tor Bay, Newfoundland, which is on the easternmost

province in Canada out on the North Atlantic and my first experience with a UAP UFO would have been approximately when I was six or seven years old so this would have been 1976, 1977 around Christmas time so I remember looking out our front window of our house across town as we were up on a ridge and I could see clear across to the other side of town and it was approximately 10 11 o'clock and I remember looking out and I could see the lights the housing lights on the other side of town and up in the sky I distinctly remember seeing three bright lights and looked like a search light was shining down towards the ground but it was on a 45 degree angle

The lights were stationary, and the spotlight seemed to be an intense white light, almost in a conical shape. So I watched these lights for about five, ten minutes, still weren't moving, and being a six-to-seven-year-old detention span of a bug, I turned away and was watching something on TV for, I'm guessing, 10, minutes. 10 or 15 minutes, and I turned around to look out the window again, and the lights were gone. So the next incident that happened to me, I'm going to say that it happened a short period of time later because I was around the same age, and I remember being in my bedroom. And I remember waking up at night, sometime during the night, and I had this distinct feeling that I was being watched. So I looked at the door to my bedroom

and I saw what it looked to be two creatures. They were probably about four feet tall around my height. Maybe I was a little taller. But from what I remember, they were a grayish color. I couldn't really see their face. But they were standing in the door looking at me and then I don't remember anything else after that.

So fast forward, quite a few years later, and I'm now serving in the Canadian Army. So I just recently retired after 27 years of service. And early on in my career, I was at a training exercise in CFB Gagetown, which is in New Brunswick. It's one of the larger army bases in Canada. And this would have happened around 1990.

So we were out on the training ranges watching a live fire demonstration. And at that time, lowering Air Force base was still open. And we participated in joint exercises with the Americans this particular summer. So as part of the live fire demonstration, B-52, came in and dropped some ordinance on the training ranges. And if you've ever seen a B-52 lying low level, it's quite an impressive sight, and then on top of it having ordinance being dropped,

it shook the ground literally. That being said, about probably 30 seconds to a minute later, a black orb followed the trail of the B-52. To me, it looked like a black dot. It was hard to gauge what size it was as the B-52 was approximately 5 to 6 kilometers away from where we were. So I'm going to say that dot was probably 30 to 40 feet in dimension. And it moved very fast from east to west. Now, in my career, I know what military aircraft look like, specifically fighters and attack aircraft.

I know what helicopters look like and civilian aircraft. This was neither. It was a round object, black, and moved very fast. So we didn't think too much of it at that time. We're like, oh, what the hell was that? So we thought it might have just been a military aircraft that we weren't aware of. So later on that day, as we were closing up the ranges and pulling out to go back to where our Bivac site, we heard helicopters come in. Now at that time the range was still closed to aircraft,

so it was strange to hear helicopters flying in our vicinity. So we happened to look up, and there were three UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters. Now we know what these helicopters look like, as we've trained with them before, and they were an olive drab color at that time. These particular helicopters, three of them were painted black, I mean like midnight black, and they were flying low and slow over the training area. So they started out close to us and moved out into the training area, almost around the area where the B-52 had traveled. So we never thought too much of this. Like, okay, maybe they were looking for some equipment that had been lost, which wasn't unusual at that time. So we get back to our bedwax site and we were called in for a debriefing.

We were asked what we saw on the ranges when the B-52 flew by and when we saw the three helicopters. So I gave my statement and never heard anything of it since then. And then fast forward again, I'm now retired from the military and I'm living in eastern Ontario. in the town of Napanee. And this would have happened around November 22 at the height of the pandemic. I was out on my deck, my front deck, and I was taking my dogs out, and I happened to look up into the sky. So where I live, we're in the flight path from Pearson International Airport for inbound and outbound flights going to Europe. So prior to the pandemic, we were getting flights every 10 to 15 minutes flying over my house.

During the pandemic, there was barely any air traffic. So it was unusual from what I seen and made me think about what I had actually witnessed. So I'm looking south over Lake, towards Lake Ontario to the east, and I see this red light moving from west to east. and I didn't think too much about it at the time because we were close to a large air base, CFB Trenton, and it wasn't unusual now and again to see military aircraft transiting close to where I live. What made this strange was that I saw another red light trailing the first red light. Thinking, hmm, okay, that's a bit odd.

And then to make matters even stranger, there was a third red light. This third red light was playing tag, it seemed, with the first and second lights. It would speed up, slow down, speed up, slow down. And then the second light decided to do a complete loop around the first light. And then the third light was continuing to go forward and backwards. And then it stopped. The first and second light continued on. The third light stayed stationary.

And then zoomed up towards the first and second light. And now all three of them were playing this cat and mouse game going back and forth, back and forth. This happened probably for 30 seconds to a minute. And then, boof, they were gone. I've never seen anything before. like this and I've never seen anything since. Now, where I live, we're starting to see a lot more satellite activity in our area. Sometimes when I look up, I'm not sure if it's a satellite.

I've seen one or two things that gave me a little bit of a pause. Satellites don't normally do a jerky motion. Like they'll move a surge ahead, slow down, surge ahead, slow down. so I'm not sure if I may have seen something else, but who knows. But anyway, Ryan, that's my story. And... Hello, fellow somewhere in the sky's listeners. My name is Tad Rhodes, reporting from New Zealand

with an account of a close encounter that took place in 1989. I was 26 years old at the time and kept the event pretty much to myself until recently when I felt compelled to write a true short story. and put it out into the world. So here it is. Aiding and abetting the phenomenon. Epigroth.

Perhaps by engaging our psych, they pass the burden of their arrival onto our collective shoulders, macones. As was our want in our younger day, Sarah and I were roaming through the quiet backwaters of Britain. Travelling light with trail by content, we often found landowners,

who graciously gave us permission to lodge overnight. On one such stopover, found us setting up camp in the centre of a recently harvested crop field. Noticing a layer of stubble strewn around a nearby island of trees, we used this to cushion the tent and turn a ground sheet into a divan. With preparations made for a comfortable night, we set off for Stratford, the aim being to take in a play at the theatre. Luckily, we were able to get tickets for the evening performance of a midsummer night's dream. Later, leaving town, we rode out into our own Mint Summer Night,

flying through narrow lanes, thick with cool night air. A final trundle across the farmyard and passed outhouses, took us down into the fields and back to base. We made tea and sat on the divan under clear skies, looking out on the countryside patchwork. Bedtime nearing Sarah began to shut up shop, well, I did a bit of stargazing. This was when things began to get very weird.

Prone and relaxed, my eyes became more adapted to the dark, one than two new layers of fainter stars, revealed themselves. And expectedly, this effect continued, and began to take a grip. I started to successively see and slowly penetrate through deeper and deeper star grids. As this state amplified, a slither on my consciousness became located, with the new frontier of my awareness, far into space. Returning to Earth, mildly stunned, but none the worst aware, I stood up. The atmosphere around us had changed.

Time was passing a beat slower. There was a sense of things being more gravied, like the hush and dimming of lights in the theatre. My attention was drawn to the nearby island of trees. now beset by growing shadow. Fairy lights blinked between the limbs? Surely not. Perhaps these lights were actually a way off.

We had a do you see what I see moment? With Sarah confirming, she could see them too. The scintillating display of cobalt, ivory, Sienna and crimson jewels became increasingly fascinating. Time slowed a bit more. dark nebulous shapes began to sway the lights, taking form within the lattice of tree limbs. An impossible something was slowly coalescing and materialising. Looking back now, a children's joke comes to mind.

How do elephants hide in the forest? They paint their toenails red and hide in the cherry trees. I start debunking avidly. It must be houselights in the distance, or... just the shadows, etc. This doesn't last long. There is something big, gaining solidity behind the trees, but I can't or won't take it in.

I feel it probing for a Gestalt that closer matches its desired shape. Apparently, we need to agree on the direction this manifestation is taking. After a few more negotiations, there is a dramatic resolution. Although I know it now to be fully, present, I stubbornly refuse to see it, or perhaps I just can't take it in yet. Oh, I can see it. The Cheshire Cat is out of the back. A fully formed craft is rising just above

the trees. I could hit it with a proverbial rock. I don't want to be here. I don't want it to be there, but there it is. A matte black, polyhedron, the size, of a double-decker bus. The flashy lights are incorporated into its outer shell. The final form we agreed on is a giant D-20, Dungeon and Dragons Die. Never played the game. No figure. Over yonder fields, a troop of white SUVs are coming our way. The top half of these show above the hedgeline.

But no, not SUVs. As they zigzag closer, they resolve into... smooth domed craft. Each boxy unit hovers close to the ground, emitting a slanting beam of light, reeling from these outlandish events. It's since then that this is a UFO encounter. I never imagined it would be like this. It's like participating in an outdoor theatrical magic show spectacular, not like something out of close encounters. Well, perhaps a bit like close encounter. if the director was Alistair Crowley, a spooky and indifferent quasi-technological presence

has taken the opportunity to pull off an audacious stunt. A vile transgression of the natural order of things, if you ask me. Getting even busier up there now. Two pearlescent orbs, the size of beach balls, traverse the hedgerows with a moth-like motion of a hunting bar now. One passes out of sight behind me on the left, then the other on the right. This causes alarm, which I use to mentally recoil from the ongoing mesmerism, suddenly more aware, feeling like a lab rat introduced to a cat.

From somewhere ancient, trite-seeming factoids bubble to the surface. This is the other. Always been happening like this. Just not to you. Best to leave the area if you want to be safe. Okay, it's time to act like a shepherd and get the flock out of here. I turned to Sarah, who was in a trance. Shaking her out of this, I ask her to get my lockknife from the tent. This done, we beat a hasty retreat up the slope towards the outhouses, ending up alongside a corral, containing two agitated donkeys. While their wickering fades, we watch the now purposeful antics below. The pale domed things seem to be executing a reconnaissance mission in yonder field.

Taking their own good time, each completes their part of a wide grid search. The orbs are displaying a lot of interest in power lines, particularly the lattice hours. Jumbo D20 is smugly levitating above the island of trees, body panels absorbing light, still pimping its ride with twinkling fairy lights. Thankfully, after a while, this band of cosmic mummers meanders far away. Short-lived, huh? As two more craft with flashing lights appear far off in the opposite direction. Oh, once again, I wish this was not happening.

is too much action for one night. As the two craft speed towards us, they start to admit the familiar sound of jet engines. Hallelujah. Two fighter jests pass rapidly in front of us and start to converge on the distant D20. On their approach, D20 zips upward at a 35 degree angle, disappearing out of sight in an eye blink. The jets are left in the dust. Without conversation, we walk back to camp and get into our sleeping bags. The following morning, packing down and loading the bike, surprisingly, we don't mention the previous night's events. But at a staging point later in the day, we do confer agreeing we both saw the same strange happenings. Leaving it all behind, we get on with the rest of our trip and the rest of our lives,

once in a blue moon wondering, what were those visitors? Where did they come from? And what the hell were they doing? You asked where I stand now in relation to the event? Well, the what and why are still a mystery. All I can say is that it was an encounter with one particular variety of the phenomenon

that seemed to be weaving in from another dimension or reality. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to share my own. story, Ryan. Much appreciated. This is somewhere in the skies with Ryan Sprague. My name is Nick. I am a warehouse manager for a data com

company. Just recently moved to Hampton, Virginia a couple months ago growing up around this area. I've had a interest in UFOs, aliens, etc. for on and off. But recently

with David Grush testimony and the congressional hearings and everything, I got a bit more into it these past few months. That's when I found your show. And because of that, I just have this inclination now that when I step outside, I just look up around in the sky, scan it, see if I see anything, and move on. And so the night of October 28th, I did. So earlier that night, me and my girlfriend had gotten into a conversation somehow about sort of spirituality and reincarnation and things like that. I tend to think that I tend to believe in reincarnation based on some evidence that I've read. But she was talking about ghosts and there's kind of this idea that people can hang around

a little bit after they die usually with some kind of unfinished business or whatever. And I brought up my friend Matt who died a few years ago as, an example and I kind of said you know he's he wouldn't have any reason to hang around the kind of guy he was he's just going to move on to the next best thing and I said you know he's he's not he's not around anymore he's he's gone so later that night around 11 my girlfriend had gone to bed and I still had my friend met on my mind so I pull up his Facebook page I start looking through his photos and everything at a certain point I started crying.

You know, I didn't want to distress my girlfriend or have to explain myself if she came back out. She had just gone to bed. So I went outside to be alone. Like I said, first thing I do when I go outside, just look up, look around in the sky, see if I see anything. And I saw what I first thought was just a star, a bright star. I kept looking around, you know, there's some airplanes and stuff. And I came back to that star. and it was

there was a light on it that was uneven it was pulsating sort of so you would think that's an airplane at first but it wasn't at a steady pace and when I first saw it it was stationary as I kept looking at it it began slowly moving to the right or left whatever it would go back and forth

and I'm just watching it and I decide I should take out my phone and start recording. When I zoom all the way in on my phone in the recording, it looks interesting. It's the best way I can describe it is like a donut on its side. The center of it is a black circle, and then there's a thick ring of light or electricity or whatever around the outside that pulsate starts getting bigger and smaller, blinking, uh, staying still. It's very random. There's not a specific pattern to it. At a certain point, a plane was flying by towards the right. I live near two airports and an Air Force base,

so I'm familiar with what that looks like in the sky. So I turn my phone over the airplane just as a comparison, and it looks completely different. It's just a blinking light on the phone. turn back to the object and it's it doesn't look anything alike. It's a pulsating white circle with a black center. It would move over to the right, stop for a minute, start moving to the left. And I'm holding my phone with both hands to try to keep it steady. And I'd say on the recording, okay, it's moving over towards the right. I'd let it go almost out of frame. And I'm like, I'm slowly moving my phone back over to the right to follow it just to, try to eliminate people saying, you know, you were just moving your phone around to make it look like it was moving or whatever. So I record it for about 20 minutes. It's still just hanging out in the same area, moving left, moving right.

I couldn't really tell if it was going up or down or back or forward. It was a good distance away, and it's hard to tell at that distance. So eventually I just say, okay, I'm going back inside. I'm tired. but when I get in I begin a Mufon report and start filling that out. It took me quite a while to do because I had 20 minutes of video and it didn't want that much data and the attachments. So it wouldn't let me remove them,

so I had to start it over two or three times until I whittled it down to what it would accept. So that took about an hour, and so around midnight I was finished with that. I, before I went to bed, I looked back outside and, uh, look for it. It had moved to directly underneath the North Star and was just hovering in place there now. So said, okay. And then went ahead to bed. How did it make me feel, um, excited, certainly, because I've always wanted to see something interesting in the sky.

Um, it made me feel, uh, well, the reason I brought up my buddy Matt earlier was because because there's this idea, mainly from Whitley Streber, that what we call UFOs have something to do with the dead, essentially. And I thought it was extremely strange that I had brought up Matt earlier that night. We were talking about him. I said, he's not around anymore. You know, he's moved on. He's on in the next thing.

And then I'm looking at videos of him or photos of him, getting emotional. And I walk outside and immediately, this thing is right there. Do I necessarily think it was him or having something to do with him? Not necessarily. I just think that's very strange that those were the situations surrounding it. So if it was something to do with that, I feel very blessed and very grateful and very touched to,

if it was some sort of contact to... to have received that. What do I think it was? Where do I stand on it now? You could convince me that it's a drone. The way it moved was drone-like. It would hover and move left to right. If you could show me a video of a drone that looks like that,

kind of pulsating and throwing out electricity or light in a ring around it, I would believe you, but I have yet to see that, and I looked up videos of that after I made the recording. I didn't see anything like that. There is a lot of military activity around here right now. We have some military bases here, and with the things going on in the Middle East, they're pretty active. I know that the military has said that they have things that would blow our minds or whatever. this one wouldn't be so mind-blowing.

I don't know what it looks like up close, but I can envision, you know, it's not completely alien technology. If you had a drone that threw out electricity and kind of a ring around it, 360-degree ring that stayed black at the center,

I don't know why you would want to do that, what that would be for, but that could look something like this. So it's not completely alien technology. It wasn't zipping around the sky or making hard 90 degree turns. It's something I can envision us having, although I don't know what it would be or why. But in the end, I just don't know. I don't know what it was.

It could be man-made, could be spiritual, could be whatever extra-dimensional and interdimensional. I don't know. But I'm grateful to have seen it. and I encourage everybody just keep looking in the skies based on how long it took me. I don't think it'll take you long to see something interesting there either. Thanks, Ryan. Hey, Ryan, how you doing? The following story I'm going to tell you, I've told many times before,

but this time I'm going to tell it the way it really happened, not the way I was told to tell it. In 1985, I was a U.S. Marine in El Toro, California. Part of my duties as a U.S. Marine in El Toro was to a nuclear weapons security guard. One evening, right around 8 o'clock at night or as in the military, we say, 20 hundred hours, I got a knock at my door and the duty NCO was at the door and he said, get ready for guard duty. Someone's going to pick you up in front of the barracks in about 15 minutes.

Fifty minutes later, a van pulls up and I hop in. And what's kind of odd about this is that the driver of the van is a Marine captain, who I didn't recognize. But everybody else in the van, I did recognize. They were all nuclear weapons, security guards from different units on El Toro. We were a small group, and we all knew each other. There was a bunch of Lance corporals, which I was one, and then there was one E5 sergeant. And we went over to the armory, picked up our, M16s the sergeant picked up as 45.

Then the driver proceeded to take us to the last hangar in the row, which is an abandoned hanger. The squadron that was there was overseas in the Far East, so there was nobody using that hanger. We pulled up, and as we pulled up, there were guys that saw us pull up, and they were getting in a truck, what we called a five-ton truck. And I don't think they were Marine Corps. They didn't look military to me.

They just buy their uniforms. They just kind of, they just look like security guys. And the captain told us to get in the formation next to the hangar. And this is where things get kind of weird. The captain says, okay, here's the deadly force rule for this post. Nobody gets inside this hangar. And he proceeded to hand out a clip. of, uh, for the M16, um, with rounds in it.

So I was like, oh, okay. So he hands these rounds. And, uh, I go, my post was at the door along the back of the hangar. There was a door there. And it was me and another Marine. Our post was right there. And we're standing there. And roughly around midnight, I would say, the sergeant comes around and he's just

checking everybody, making sure no one's sleeping, you know, just saying, how are you doing? Do you need a break? And I ask him, I go, what do you think is? What are we guarding? And he said, oh, he said, I talked to the captain before he left, and the captain said, it's a speedboat. And I stopped for a minute and I said, a speedboat. You mean we got authorization to shoot someone over a speedboat if they come inside the hangar? That makes absolutely no sense, right? So he walks off, comes back a little bit later, and,

I say to him and say, hey, can we take a look? And he hesitated for a minute. And he said, you know what? Sure. But one at a time, and I'm going first. So he went in and he came out about 10, 15 minutes later, came out. And as he's walking past us, he said, it's definitely not a speedboat. And he kept walking. So I thought, okay, well, I'm going in next.

So I walk in and this is what I saw. The hangar was dimly lit. The only light in the hangar was the exit sign and the, there was one light in the overhead or in the ceiling that was on. But it was pretty dim in there. So I had my flashlight. Kind of an eerie feeling. In the middle of the hangar bay was a trailer. And on that trailer was something about the size of a car.

And I would say, when I say car, I mean like an 85 escort, because that's what I was comparing it to the moment I was. was looking at it saying, hey, that's about the size of my car because I drove a shitty escort. So I walk over to it and there was a tarp over the top, but under it, the tarp didn't go all the way down. You could still see the bottom part. And I look and it looks to me like I said, hey, that kind of looks like a boat bottom, you know? Sure, it does. It kind of looks like a boat bottom. So I walk over to it and I turn my flashlight on a look. And I noticed that the color is like a matte black. It's like a dark gray, black, you know, like a real flat color, no shine to it whatsoever. I didn't see any rivets.

I didn't see any seams. So then I pulled the tarp back from over the top so I could see the top of it because I wanted to see where the seats were. And, you know, I just wanted to see where you sat in this speedboat. It was totally solid. I went, oh my God, there's nowhere to sit. So I'm like, that's really weird. So I'm looking and I'm shining my light up in there. And there's no way.

There's no door. There's no window. There's no seams. There's no rivets. There's no screws. Nothing. This thing was solid. So then I go to the back.

And the way it was shaped was it was like a teardrop. It was kind of fat in the back and kind of pointy in the front, but not pointy, but rounded pointy. If you kind of know what I mean, it didn't have like a boat point. It was kind of rounded. Like a teardrop. And then I pulled back the back part where the fat part was. And there was no engine. There was no exhaust outlet.

There was no doors. There was no hatches. There was nothing. So that's weird. So I'm looking at it. And I'm baffled. I'm sitting there looking at this thing going, what the hell is this thing? You know?

So I put the tarp back where it's supposed to be. And I tighten the straps. And I walk out. And my buddy says to me that I'm standing here, he's going in next. I go, that's no speedboat I've ever seen. I don't know what it is. So he walked in, he comes back about 10 minutes later and he says, I think it's a bomb. And I'm like, well, maybe, maybe it's a nuclear weapon that we don't know. And we knew all the nuclear weapons. We knew, like, we knew each one. And there was three or four of them, like the B-61, the B-43. You know,

those, we knew those, okay, but this we've never seen before, never saw this at all. So right around 0-300 the captain rolls back in and he tells the sergeant that they are coming to get this so we hear c-130 taxiing up to the front of the hangar and we're standing there and it taxis up and then c-130 can move backwards so he the pilot actually can back it up a little bit so they were backing up and these guys get out and they are literally with they have long hair and beards They had blue jeans on, boots, and body armor over their chest, and they're carrying MP5s. Hey, everyone. Ryan Sprague here, host of Somewhere in the Skies.

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perimeter around the airplane and it goes and face outwards and don't look back until we tell you it's okay so as we're setting up our perimeter i hear the one guy say to the other guy come on let's go let's get this fucking thing out of here so you know you have a sense of something moving behind you Well, you could, you know, we felt, you know, we knew they were moving this thing out and they winched this thing with the trailer and all into the back of the C-130. And we heard the hydraulics lifting the door up. And then they waved us away and they taxied away. The weird thing about the C-130 is it was an Air Force C-130, which is kind of weird because we're a Marine Corps base. So I don't know.

We get ready to leave. The captain puts us in formation. And this is what he says. He says, do not tell anybody what you saw tonight or what you didn't see tonight. What you guarded tonight was a speedboat. Don't tell anybody, you know, just if you talk amongst yourself, it was a speedboat. And then he looked like he was going to say something else. And he kind of looked at us.

He looked down. He looked to the side. And we were waiting for his next words. And then he just looked at us and took a breath and goes dismissed. and he walked off. We got back in the van, he got in the van, and it was a quiet ride home. Recently, and when I say recently, I mean maybe five, six years ago, I finally talked to that one sergeant.

I found him on Facebook, and I got a hold of him. And I said, hey, man, how you doing? We're chit-chatting about what we did in our career. And I, for some reason, the Marine Corps never left me out of the nuclear weapons field. I stayed in that damn field all the way to the end of my career. And I said, remember the speedboat? And he goes, yeah, the speedboat. And I go, what do you think it was?

He says, I don't freaking know, but you know what? It wasn't a damn speedboat. And I said, you know, I agree. And I kind of left it at that, you know? I left it go. And then recently, with the new F-18 videos of the Tic Tacs flying through the air, I saw the video and I'm like, holy crap, that's kind of what I saw. You know, the video of that little thing moving.

I'm like, as could it be, you know? And then they said about how it went in the water and it came out of the water. I'm like, holy crap, you know. So that's when I started thinking, you know, and I said, you know, I've been hiding this story all my life. You know, I'm still afraid that if I say it to the wrong people, you know, I'm waiting for the knock at the door. know, but I don't want to, I'm 61 years old, I don't want to die with this lie, you know, I just want someone else to know about it. And that's my story. So what I thought it was, at the time, I didn't think it was anything, I didn't think it was anything like a flying saucer. No, I did

not, because back then, you got to remember, this is 85. I'm thinking it was, I, because flying saucers were like silver discs, like what you expect to see a flying saucer, right? So in our mind, our little Lance Corporal minds, 22-year-old kid, we're looking at it as maybe, you know, like a bomb. You know, I thought it was maybe a bomb. My buddy thought it was a bomb. You know, that's kind of what we thought. We never thought it was a flying craft because there's no,

there's no exhaust ports, there was no engine. So, of course, you're not going to say, oh, that's a UAP, because there was no such thing back then. So that's what we thought it was the whole time. Why they told us it was a speedboat? Hell, I don't know. Maybe that guy came up with it at the last minute and just what he said, you know. But that's my story.

Anyway, so I just want to thank you and, you know, I just hope you can use this story. So when I was, I guess, five years old, I think I moved, and maybe it was four when I moved to Venezuela for a year. And we looked up on a hill surrounding Caracas. It was a ritzie neighborhood, to be honest. We were just renting there, but

you know, there were like a couple of generals on our street. Yet, all the houses had, they were all walled off and they had like spiked metal spikes coming out of the walls to make sure nobody could climb over it. And then the ritzier places, ritzier than what we lived in, had something that really struck me, which was broken bottles in between the spikes, just to make it even harder, you know,

because the spikes weren't really that big, big a disincentive to somebody trying to climb in, but getting a lot of broken glass might be. Anyway, this is the first time that I can remember nighttime walks, which were a thing that our family tended to do. Now, I don't know when I was younger if we did any, but the place we were in that we were renting didn't have like a yard or anything like that where we moved from before that

had a couple of acres of yards so we could like walk around in our own fields and whatnot after dinner or something and there wasn't really like the road there was kind of like a little highway type thing

of a little too lean country highways and but in Venezuela it was a populace area. So what we ended up, you know, doing was after dinner most nights, we would go for a walk. And we would go for a walk up a little further up the hill. And there'd be this beautiful panoramic view of the whole city, all the lights sparkling and everything like gems. There's something my dad used to really like to see. And, you know, there would also, it would be

kind of dark at that end of the hill. And he would often see shooting stars there. And you could see a lot of the stars, a lot more than I can see here. But anyway, one of those nights, I mean, we had our dog and our cat with us, and that was part of it, was the dog had to go for a walk.

And he couldn't just be allowed to run free in a city. Our dog would, you know, be on a leash and be traveling with us. But the cat would follow us for a couple of blocks, and then she would just sit down and wait until we came back. But the dog would come with us, and I know that we took a right-hand turn at some point. My memories of the layout and everything aren't perfect,

but we took a right-hand turn onto another. residential street on our walk, at least on this one night. And soon after that, and I'm not sure of the order of these things, but our dog and other dogs started barking. And either just before or just after that, my father noticed that there was something in the sky. We looked up, and there was a orange glowing globe. I mean, it's night-time, right? Looked kind of like a harvest moon, except it was overhead,

not at the horizon where a harvest moon would be. And it descended, not terribly rapidly. And as this was happening, people started coming out into the street, meena, meena, mea, you know, just all shouting to look. and you know there had to be at least a dozen people who noticed this

when it got to its lowest point whatever that was and it didn't seem very close and there was no noise no wind nothing going on it was huge okay it took up I don't know how much like part of me wants to say like half the sky. But I'm not absolutely certain of that, but on a conservative estimate, it was blotting out like

a quarter of the sky that I could see just standing outside. Nothing, I'm scared, nothing. And it was just this orange I want to say sphere, but I don't know. A disc essentially, like I could see an

orange circle. Like when you look at the moon, right? It's what it looked like. It looked like the fucking moon, except there were no markings on it or anything. And it was relatively like there was a glow to it like there is with the moon. I mean, it's as if somebody had like taken the moon and done something really ridiculous with it and put it overhead, you know, and then brought it closer. Which obviously nothing like that could happen. And it just sort of stopped lowering at some point or getting bigger or whatever it did. and then it just shot off

and accelerated really rapidly out, you know, over the city, I think. And that was it. And I remember, you know, my parents trying to look in the papers, look on the news, see if there was anything about it. There was no reports about it that we were aware of.

We didn't know the people on that street, and I don't think we made any of. attempt to contact them and ask what was going on. Among other things, Venezuela was not, didn't feel like a safe place, right? Like, you know, there were soldiers who were, you know, when traffic needed to be directed, there were people who looked like soldiers carrying some machine guns, and they'd be waving traffic with their machine gun. and one time I was playing on a tank in a park

you know just it was like a monument or something and a couple of guys with submachine guns came and were like you have to get off the tank but they said it in Spanish but yeah it just it felt so different and you know there were there were wards of these guys accidentally shooting themselves or other people you know So they weren't really careful with those guns that they were waving around. Anyway, there was just sort of this feeling of, well, it's best we don't ask around or, you know, try to get any information because things were not, didn't feel safe to us.

At least, you know, that's the impression I got from it. And there was just nothing in the news. and my speculations about it, you know, I mean, there's ideas like mass hallucination, right? Which, it's a known thing. Maybe that's what happened. If that is what it was,

I have to say, for my little five-year-old brain at the time, I can't think of, you know, there's nothing to leave me to believe that. If you can't trust what you see in that sort of way, what can you do? It didn't seem like any kind of reasonable military type thing. It's possible that was a time when Venezuela was not, the government was not entirely unfriendly to Americans. The people were not friendly to Americans. They saw the foreign interventions and whatnot,

the financial ones primarily, as being problematic. And so there was a lot of, like, you know, get out of here, we want our own oil, you know, type of feeling to the situation, which, of course, is what led to things later. But it didn't seem like a military thing. It didn't seem like a weather balloon.

for one thing it was fucking huge and the other is that movement away that felt like a directed movement not like a balloon would do and it was just so fast

it was just it was really and it's not like it deflated or anything like that it just you know in later years I can remember

my mom asking me if I remembered what happened? And I'm like, yeah, I think so, you know. And I told her what I remembered of it. And she may have told me other things, and that may be infecting my memory or whatever. I know that on our way back, after we had gotten back to America,

my parents managed to contact some members of the crew of the ship that we went over to Venezuela for some reason or another. I mean, it was just like, you know, they had kept in contact or something. It was a weird, we were on a weird kind of ship. It was like essentially a freighter,

but it carried some passengers. It was very nice accommodations for passengers, but there weren't a lot of us. And great food and all kind of stuff. It was sort of the cheapest way for us to move all our shit. I don't know, you know, like I said, We contacted some of the people who were on the ship that we traveled over on. And what they kind of had to say was, you know, each of us has seen some pretty fucking weird shit while we were sailing around in the Caribbean.

And maybe they hadn't seen what we had seen anything like that. But they had seen some pretty fucking weird shit in the sky. And it was kind of like, yeah, that's just, you know, that's just the way things are. Kind of. And I don't know if they were pulling our legs or what. I don't think I was there for it anyway. And again, I would still be pretty young at this point. It wasn't long after we got back to America that we ended up.

And that's all I have, you know. But short of something like a mass hallucination event, as far as I'm concerned, I know I saw something. I have no fucking clue what it is. And I still can't really tell. You know, which is totally different. So my first wife, when she was in Buffalo, she was with her mom. And they saw something that they were like, wow, what the hell is that?

It looks like a UFO or something. It turned out it was like one of the stealth bombers or something like that before they, they were known about. But this didn't look like, it didn't look like a vehicle, it didn't look like a plane or anything like that. It looked like the fucking moon, you know, coming down. And I try to think if there's any way

that like a weather balloon or something could look that big and that's smooth, right? Like, and glowing. glowing and that just doesn't seem likely to me but anyway I figured I'd give you

what little I saw because it is kind of a weird thing I don't know if anybody else who's seen that you know a lot of people have seen things in the sky that are fucked up and weird this was you know you hear some of

the UFO sightings and stuff and they're like things like a set of lights traveling in formation or something I'm like geez if I saw that like I know there was a set of lights over Phoenix that caused

a big brouhaha I regularly saw lights like that over Phoenix because I was near the airport the planes were just they looked very similar similar to that kind of thing. Obviously, people could tell it some sort of difference, but this just seems weird, you know?

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I recently attended Monster Fest, too, an incredible event put on by the multimedia production company, Small Town Monsters. Monster Fest covers everything from ancient civilizations to ghosts, cryptids, and even UFOs. The event took place in Canton, Ohio on June 29th. There were guest speakers, film premieres, meet and greets, and live podcast recordings in front of an audience. And that's where somewhere in the skies comes in. There is no better way to hear UFO stories than from those who experience them. So we open the door for our live audience to be a part of our highly popular witness account series. You'll hear several UFO stories, including my own,

and even a dramatic encounter from our special guest co-host, who I'm keeping a secret until you hear the episode. As many of you know, it's been an extremely challenging time in the moment. my life recently. So getting to attend and take part in this event was exactly what I needed to keep going. So a special thanks to Seth Breedlove and the entire Smalltown Monsters crew for making me feel so welcomed. And to all of you who came out to meet me, including some of our Patreon subscribers and beyond, an extra special thanks to you as well. It was such a pleasure and honor to put faces to names. And to get to spend

quality time with you and talk about UFOs. So let's not waste any more time. And let's get to our very special witness accounts episode live from Monster Fest too. Hi guys, welcome to a live episode of Somewhere in the Skies. My name is Ryan Sprague. I host the Somewhere in the Skies podcast. Is anyone familiar with the show? Oh my gosh. Wow, that's awesome. That could be a very awkward moment. I've done these in the past. So, yeah, I have been doing the Somewhere in the Sky's podcast for about, gosh,

going on five, six years now. And we cover everything at this point. UFOs, the paranormal, the unexplained. I've had the entire small town monsters group on to talk about cryptids and everything

in between. But I am primarily known as a UFO guy. I like to give kind of a origin story, like my Peter Parker getting bitten by the spider moment for anyone who might want to know why I got into all this. I did have a personal UFO sighting, like a lot of people here, when I was 12 years old. In upstate New York, I was fishing, and it had just turned dusk, and I was reeling my line in from fishing. My dad went inside to watch a Yankees game, and I And my life changed within moments of reeling my line in.

I saw over my head a black triangle, as many people have reported throughout the years, a black triangle UFO. It had white lights on each corner, one red light in the middle. And I didn't know what to think. I was 12. Like, I knew what airplanes did and did not do. It could have been anything, but I watched as this solid black thing just hovered over me silently. It made absolutely no noise.

All I could hear was water hitting the dock that I was fishing off of. It was scary. It was beautiful, the actual craft itself. But yeah, again, I was 12. I didn't know what the heck it was. I yelled for my dad. He came out from watching the Yankees game, which to get my dad, out of

from a Yankees game is like a feat in itself. And he thought I fell in the water. So that's why he came out because I was yelling,

I was screaming, and he saw it with me, which I, in the past couple years, have been able to really sit down with him and

talk about it with him, which has been extremely vindicating for me. Because for many, many years, like many UFO witnesses experience,

it's very lonely. You don't want to talk. about it, but things are changing in the world of UFOs. I feel like Bigfoot cryptos are, they're on their way, but UFOs are like a mainstream thing now. They're more accepted than ever before. The United States government is once again investigating them officially through the Pentagon. Make of that what you will. But yeah, the time for UFOs to be taken seriously is now. So I am

loving what I'm doing with somewhere in the skies. And I run a series called Witness Accounts, which is where people call into the show and tell their UFO stories. When I first started that series, I didn't think anyone would get involved. And I had like over 20 submissions, which was incredible. And since then, I've done 30 volumes of witness accounts, five to 10 stories in every episode. So that's hundreds of people who have now come forward and told me their UFO. stories and by proxy all of you. And I was inspired to do the witness account series by Jim Harold. Jim has been a pioneer in the world of paranormal podcasting.

I've been listening to him for, gosh, forever. And he really inspired me to start the witness account series through a series he runs called Camp Fire, where people tell their ghost stories and other experiences too. So I thought it would be awesome to bring Jim in as my co-host today. Do you want to introduce yourself here? Yeah, hi, I'm Jim Harold, and long time, thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you. Long-time podcaster.

And, you know, Ryan to me is one of the, I always used to say he's one of the, you know, really young guys out there, but you're getting older, Ryan. Not anymore. I'm feeling it right now. But Ryan is awesome. one of my favorites both personally and professionally. I think he does a great job in everything he does. People ask me why I got into this, and there's a couple things I credit, a show that I'm looking around the room. I think if you may have watched back in the day in search of with Leonard Nimoy. And the other thing was there were a couple of great family stories, and one of them was a UFO story.

So I just mentioned literally as a side to Ryan, and he said, well, why don't you tell it to kind of get the ball rolling? Because we're going to try to get some folks to come up or get the mic and join in with some of their UFO stories. Well, this happened to my parents. My family was from West Virginia. And this was when I, like, in 1912, when I was about a year old. And anyway, they were visiting the grandparents. They dropped little Jimmy off. and my mom and my dad went off to some secluded kind of area that they drove to,

and I don't want to know why they were doing that. This is a PG show. But I'm sure they were going to contemplate the mysteries of the universe. But then they encountered one. So they pulled to this secluded spot, and you know if you're from a rural area, when it's dark, it is dark, right? So anyway, it's dark. All of a sudden there's a huge,

sustained flash of light, 30 to 60 seconds. And my dad was driving like a 68 Buickless saber, you know, one of those land yachts. And it had the old big speedometer on it, and I had the analog clock. And he said, and my mom backed him up, that he could read every number on that clock and that speedometer for 30 to 60 seconds. Then my dad looks to his left and he says he saw, what he termed as a man with a welding mask on who held up his hand. And then they decided, okay, it's time to leave now. So, you know, my dad kind of hustles out there,

and then I'll say it as best I can approximating my late mom's West Virginia accent. Then Jimmy, I saw the biggest birds on the side of that hill that I ever saw in my life. and I think that the birds, they said that the wingspan was like, I don't know, five feet wide or some crazy number, like a thunderbird sounded like. And they fully expected the next day they would go home, they would hear something on the news. This is probably, you know, definitely early 70s. And they never heard another thing, never knew what to make of it. And the thing is, is that years later, you know Mike Cleland, you've interviewed my husband, you've interviewed Mike Clenland about owls and so forth and how the messengers and how owls show up and there might be an idea of screen memories and things.

And I was interviewing one time and I was talking to him and I'm going to try to cut this short so we can get to your stories. But it occurred to me that maybe what my parents had was a screen memory of some type. The man in the welding mask, the birds. And the thing was my mom until she passed, she told that same story and she was not really a supernatural person. My dad's 88, still tells the same exact story. So I believe it so. I think Leonard Nimoy and my parent's stories kind of merged to get me involved in the paranormal in all these different fields. But yeah, yeah, I thought that was a pretty wild UFO story.

Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard that before from you. There you go. Have you personally ever seen a UFO? The only thing I think I saw was space junk one time. Actually, Dar, who is with me now. excuse me, we were driving on a main road in an area in Cleveland where I'm from, and we saw a big green fireball. And it was about like 545 at night, but it was in wintertime when it's dark. And the funny thing was we were listening to some talk radio.

And some guy goes into the talk radio station. He's like, I'm traveling on such a, such a road, and I just saw a green fireball, like, enter the atmosphere. And the host is like, ah, what are you smoking? Next caller. But I don't think that was anything, you know, kind of supernatural. I think that was some kind of meteorite or space junk or something. But that's it for me for UFO stories. Well, it's hard because everything is a UFO until it's not.

Yeah. Until it's identified. You know, and I at this point have, I mean, literally, I can show you my email. I just got like four email submissions from folks that have been here who sent me their stories within the span of 24 hours, which is incredible. I used to have to really dig for this stuff. And now, with all of this Pentagon UFO stuff happening, all of these military pilots coming forward,

admitting that they were outmaneuvered by a craft of unknown origin, it vindicates a lot of individuals. Whether you're military or not, a trained observer or not, I remember interviewing the chief radar operator of the now famous 2004 Nimitz UFO encounter. You guys probably have seen the video all over the news of this oblong-shaped UFO that was caught on camera that several top gun pilots chased. And this was an incredible story. but it all started with this chief radar operator who had been tracking these UFOs on radar for days.

And every time he went to his superiors and told them there's a ton of things over this training area that we're in right now, and it's very concerning. And they tell them, stop. Like, no, there's nothing here. Like, we don't see anything. Nothing's going on. Erase the tracks, start anew.

and for days and days this happened and then finally one of these damn things came out of the water and went up to 80,000 feet in the air to one of the fighter pilots shot down back towards the surface of the water and then shot off into

presumably space none of them talked about this for years and years and years. The chief radar operator spent many years questioning what he had done, should he have come forward with what happened. Kevin Day was his name, I should give his name, and it really tore his life apart. People made fun of him, called him like a UFO weirdo. He became very depressed and solitary, and basically this event ruined his life.

Until he turned on CNN one day, and there were the two fighter pilots that went up to investigate the thing that he had been tracking. And he just started crying. And he said, finally, finally, I'm not alone. And that's why I do this. No one's alone. Whether they've seen everything from a light in the sky, a claimed close encounter, acclaimed abduction experience,

I'm not here to give them answers. I'm not here to judge anyone who's seen anything unexplained, whether it's a UFO, a cryptid, a ghost. I'm here to hear your stories and to get them out to people so that you in turn can feel empowered to come forward if you've seen something. I think that's really important because every single person who comes forward

makes all of these topics more normal and accepted to talk about. And look, I'm one of these people who doesn't believe we're ever going to get the truth from the government. And I'm surprisingly not, like a big conspiracy for what I do. But I do not trust the government when they say what they say about UFOs because of the years and years of cover-ups that they have been caught in when it comes to this topic. All this being said, that's why I do what I do, because we're never going to get

the truth from the military. We're never going to get the truth from the government. It's going to come from grassroots efforts like this, like Monster Fest, like all these UFO conferences that we go to, from our books, from these podcasts. I really think the power is still in the people's hands when it comes to the unknown and the unexplained. Don't expect in a governmental body to do it for you. So yeah, that's kind of what inspired me to do what I do. And I bring all of this up because everyone has a story, Jim, right?

Whether it's seeing a ghost or a UFO. I can't tell you how many times when I tell people what I do, I was afraid to tell people what I did Like oh what do you do I'm like oh I host a podcast And I write like about what Stuff I used that to get out of jury duty once Yeah I remember I lived in New York City for a really long time

And back in my single days I'd go on first dates And every time I told them I was a euphologist There was never a second date that's changed. It's okay to do what we do now. And I love it. We're working on it. That's the biggest mystery of all.

So yeah, I think now is the time to come forward if anyone has ever seen anything like that. But Jim, I want to know from you before we get to maybe if any of you want to share a story that you've had, I would love that. But if not, we have plenty to talk about Camp Fire. Tell us a little about Campfire, and do you think that there could be any sort of connections between what you do and what I do? Well, on Campfire, what I've tried to do over the years is kind of leave it very kind of like the Big Ten philosophy. So we will have not a ton, but we will have some UFO stories. I think somebody's trying to hand somebody. I'm sorry.

Oh, heck, yeah, that's me. There he is. Oh, you can just leave it back there. Yeah. Oh, that's awkward. That's awkward. This message is brought to you by the kitchen service of the Hilton Double Tree Canton. This is why we do live podcast recording. I love it. Sorry, guys. They're feeding us now.

Thank you, brother. Do you guys just want to watch me eat? I'll tell you what, if you want to eat, I can talk a little bit, then you talk a little bit, then you take another bite, and we'll go back and forth. No, no. Where were we're? I'm not sure. No, that is, that's funny.

I'm keeping all this in, by the way. None of that's getting cut when the show comes out. Anyhow, Campfire. So Campfire has a big temp philosophy. We certainly do ghosts. We do some cryptids. and we also choke up and UFOs

and whatever people and a lot of them fall like they're tweeners they're what I call head scratchers they don't really fall into a category which are as some of you know who listen that's kind of my favorite category but I do think there might be some connections because what I used to think was

you know UFOs or aliens from out there ghosts are dead people cryptids are animals we haven't discovered yet or hiding. And now my feeling has become more nuanced, not that the things I just said aren't true, but I think there's also alternate explanations. So I guess it has evolved over time.

I'm more convinced stuff is going on. I'm less convinced I know what's going on, if that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely. Like, I, again, I've done the podcast, I've written books. I've done the television shows. They will sometimes be like, oh, what do you want to be credited as UFO expert? And I laugh because I'm like, I don't know what UFOs are. I'm no closer to an answer than I was since I was on that dock in 1995 and saw what I saw.

However, I think that is the mystery. Like, we live in the mystery. Will we ever know the answers to what Bigfoot was, UFOs? there's probably a million different answers for each of these things. Maybe I'll know what I saw, but I'm not going to know what you saw, what you saw, what you saw. And that's kind of the beauty of it, I think. It has given my life purpose, and I am so thankful that I saw what I saw. A lot of people regret having UFO sightings.

My uncle, who's in my first book, former U.S. Navy guy, had a straight-up close encounters of the third kind experience. He was driving, the thing went over his car, stopped his car, hovered over him, went away, his car started again, came back, very classic flying saucer-esque disc that he saw. He was on his way to start working at a new Navy base

he got to the base and before he even checked in he went to the bar and had a couple drinks and never talked about it again until I started doing what I do and I was the only one he told his story too but the big thing about his experience is I asked him like would you ever want to see something like that again or what do you think it was and he was like I don't know what it was

I don't want to know what it was and I'm okay never talking about it again whereas someone else might come forward and want all the answers, will want to tell more people about it and try to find answers. So I never, like, judge anyone for, you know, not coming forward, but there's a famous UFO researcher that Jim and I have had the honor and pleasure to speak with, Stanton T. Friedman, who, when he used to go around to colleges and all over the world, he would speak. The first question he would ask is,

how many people have seen a UFO? I'm going to do it. I'm actually going to do it here today. Excellent. How many people here think or have seen something they consider a UFO? That's a good amount. How many of you reported it somewhere?

Anywhere. Wow. There you go. That's the prime example right there. Stanton Friedman, he'd do these lectures in front of hundreds of people and, you know, 90% of the people would raise their hands. And then how many reported it?

Maybe one person, which is awesome, by the way. So if you have seen something, you don't have to report it to, you know, you can report it to the local police department. You can report it to Mufon, obviously, the most visible civilian-run UFO organization. Or you can come to people like Jim and I. again, we're not going to be the ones to explain what you saw, but at least it lives somewhere. And it also, I think, does another thing, because if somebody listens to Ryan's show or my show and they hear a person's experience, first of all, they think, oh, I'm not alone. Somebody else experienced it.

And then they tell their story and becomes this like virtuous circle that extends out. So by telling your story, you don't know how many people you can influence, and there can be maybe tens, hundreds, thousands of people who feel more comfortable sharing their stories because you told your one story. Well, in the other big, I'm so happy you brought that up. One of the most popular cases that I talk about in every one of my lectures, it's in both editions of my book, happened in, is anyone from or around? Cuyahoga Falls by chance. One of the most popular cases I've ever investigated happened in Ohio. And this happened in Cuyahoga Falls in, I want to say the mid-70s, to a former Coast Guard operator, who was at a drive-in movie theater in Cuyahoga Falls, and he was waiting for the movie to start with his buddy.

They're in their car, just chilling, waiting for the movie to start. And all of a sudden, all the power in the entire driving movie theater went out. Like, just flat went out. And all of a sudden, everyone's cars that were on at the time shut off. We're talking hundreds of cars. This was a packed driving movie theater sold out. And everyone's car shut down, which is crazy. That's amazing.

And they're all like, what's going on? What the hell is it going on? And over the screen, the movie theater screen, comes this massive black crescent-shaped object, completely silent, sleek. And it just went over the screen, went over the parking lot, over all the cars, everyone's just kind of looking up in awe, goes off into a field in the distance, disappears. and once the craft was no longer visible to Scott, the witness that I spoke to, all the power went back on. Everyone's cars started.

But you would think in that moment, like people would freak out, be asking each other, what the heck was that all about? Scott remembers seeing the UFO. He gets out of his car to go use the restroom. And he's waiting in line, and nobody in line is talking about what just happened.

like wouldn't you want to just talk about a UFO coming over and God who knows what it would have done? And he found that odd. So he gets back in the car and he and his friend also didn't talk about what had just happened. They played the movie. They watched the movie. Everyone stayed and then everyone went home after that. Do you think that this was just, you know, kind of like people, go on about their lives or do you think something about the craft or its inhabitants influenced the people almost like a hypnotism kind of thing that just kind of said don't worry about it don't worry about everything's cool do you think it's something like that or do you think it's just people saying hey I went to see a movie this weird thing happened on to the next right that was my first question for him and I remember him telling me I didn't actually remember

seeing the UFO until, I think he said something like 20 years later. He had totally blacked it out of his mind. And it took going to, I think, like a library, he picked up in Edward Ruppelt UFO book, who is a famous Project Blue Book investigator. He saw the UFO on the front of the book, and it just triggered a memory in him. And it started flooding back.

He started having panic attacks. What the heck was that? Oh, my God. What's going on? And the other thing was there were hundreds and hundreds of people there. Yet Scott was the only one who came forward about this event. And I asked him, I'm like, well, can I talk to your friend who was in the car with you? He's like, I haven't spoken to him since that night.

Wow. I reached out to, you know, I went into the old newspapers in Cuyahoga Falls. I'm like, did anything get reporting? I found nothing, absolutely nothing. I, you know, I tried to find other witnesses that might have been there. Absolutely nothing. So I told Scott, I'm like, this is a great story. I wish I had more witnesses to corroborate it.

But yeah, I'm going to put it in the book. Like, this is awesome. But that really weighed on him that he was the only one. He wanted vindication that this happened, that what he'd seen was something very highly unusual. And it did affect his life. Like, you know, when that memory came back, I can't even imagine what that would have been like.

So I just remember, working with him after the book came out to try to find more witnesses, nothing. And it really did affect him. He became very depressed. I became very close with Scott because he was such a good witness. And I could just see it weighing on him.

And then when the second edition of my book came out, like I said, I get these emails every day. I rarely checked my spam folder, but I happened to do it one day. And all I saw was the subject line in my spam folder. It said drive-in movie theater UFO. And I was like, what is this? So I click on it. And lo and behold, a woman one town over from Cuyahoga Falls said, I saw exactly what he saw on the same exact night with my boyfriend and my sister one town over. And I just want that guy to know he's not alone. And I did see it. And I also didn't remember it till many, many, many, many years. years later. So I sent the email to Scott and the dude just like big, big, you know, brooding former Coast Guard guy and he just started bawling his eyes out. Wow. Because he'd finally been

vindicated that this happened. So again, the power of more people coming forward can drastically affect a witness who thinks they were alone. And, you know, the fact that another witness now came forward with it is important too. And she said that she had the same after effect. She didn't remember it until many years later. The sister didn't remember it at all. So I do think whatever that intelligence was behind that UFO

here in Ohio had some sort of I wouldn't even know what to call it psychic control over people immediately able to black them out. Again, none of them reacted when it was happening or after. They just watched the movie and everyone

went on with their lives. Yeah, we've had some weird stories where people should have reacted to ways and things. In a new campfire book, we have one. And some people think it might be alien abduction. A kid went to school, all of a sudden they subject him to all these different tests and things. And it's these people they'd never seen before in white lab coats. And they said that they wore sunglasses. And they went through all these physical tests and all these things. And this one kid, the guy who called in Ray from Ohio,

he said that they pulled him aside. He thinks because he was doing well in the tests. And they gave him more like mental tests and things. And then they took his blood. So the next day, he goes back to school and he says, how are we doing a test? Ask the teacher. And this was the whole school.

They called the kids out grade by grade. It was very weird. No notes home, nothing. Anyway, he said, how do we do in a test? and the teacher's like, what test? And nobody else, except for him, remembered it. But he knew it happened because, remember, they drew his blood,

he still has a scar to this day. And it was right near the Ohio, West Virginia border. But the thing is, is that these reports, and different people, you know, have heard that story and speculated, was it a government experiment, or was it maybe like a mass alien abduction and the fact that he said was very bright that day and these people seemed to wear sunglasses.

Maybe they were aliens. I mean, I know it sounds out there, but the whole story is kind of out there. Yeah. Hey, everyone. Ryan Sprague here, host of Somewhere in the Skies. If you've ever thought about supporting us, we have great two easy options for you right now. If you listen to the show on Apple Podcasts, you can click the subscribe button at the top of your Apple feed. Or you can join our Patreon at patreon.com slash somewhere skies.

Both of these options give you the same benefits, early access to the main show, bonus episodes, and content, and priority to ask our guests, your listener questions. So to help support Summer in the Skies, click that subscribe button on Apple or visit patreon.com slash somewhere skies. Thank you so much. for your support and keep looking up. I mean, and they are. I mean, I get everything from like a simple light in the sky to claim to abductions, mass abduction experiences. And, you know, I value every story the same.

It doesn't matter if you've seen just a light or if you've claimed an abduction. Where was that? Was it South Africa or Africa? That's school in the 90s? Yes. Or Zimbabwe or something? It was Zimbabwe.

I spoke to one of the children I mean she's now in her I don't want to age her but she's an adult And who did the movie on was a Nickerson? Yes there was a documentary that came out recently Yeah Of a case where Like 60?

Yeah 60 school children in Rua Zimbabwe Witnessed a Craft land In their school yard Beings came out And interacted with the children. And they drew pictures? Yeah. So what happened was they, you know, once the beings or whoever they were supposedly made contact with the children, they got up into

the craft, the craft ascended into the sky and disappeared. They started bringing in, like, legit psychiatrists and counselors to work with these children, one of which was Dr. John Mack, who was a Harvard psychiatrist at the time, flew all the way to Rua's and way to interview each of these children individually, had them draw pictures of what they had seen separately, which is very important. And every child started drawing what they saw. And they, like, the resemblances were striking. Right, because he separated them and had them draw them separately. And this was, what, early 90s, wasn't it? 94, I think. So it was really before the internet took hold. So it wasn't it like, you know, something the kids saw on the internet or something.

I mean, really remarkable. It was a fascinating case. And, like, I've spoken to several of the children since that day, and some of them became, it just destroyed their lives. Like, psychologically, their parents didn't believe them. The news in Zimbabwe and whatnot made fun of the children and said they made it all up. It was like a prank that they pulled or a mass hysteria sort of thing. But almost every single one of those children, to this day,

stand by the story. Some of them became very, unfortunately, you know, depressed or alcoholics, stuff like that, trying to black out what had happened to them. While others embraced the experience and did incredible things with their lives, a woman named Selma Sadiq, I interviewed, was one of the school children. And she went on to do just incredible things in her life. And she says that because of that experience and what those beings had told her about, you need to help the world, the world's in peril, these messages that allow.

lot of people claim to get from an intelligence from a UFO of like stop what you're doing to this planet. We care about you guys. We want you to be a part of the Galactic Federation, as it were. And I mean that. I'm not trying to make light of it. Stop what you're doing. And she went on to just, she's like a civil rights attorney, I believe.

She does a bunch of environmental work. And again, that's what I love is. That experience can change the entire course of someone's life. And it did for me. I didn't think I'd be up here with Jim Harold recording a podcast and paying for my food in the middle of it. That's once in a lifetime. I thought I was going to be a professional baseball player.

So that was a little rough for my dad when he learned, yeah, my son's no longer playing baseball. He's hunting UFOs. Yeah, but you can have a much longer career. Very true. Maybe not as lucrative. So let me ask you this. You talked about the abduction case and so forth,

and the message to this woman was that we want to help you, we want you to become part of this galactic federation or whatever it is. But then you hear the very scary stories going back to Betty and Barney Hill or Whitley Streber of a very kind of different experience, a very frightening experience. So in your opinion, with all the work you've done over the years, is it the case that they're all bad, they're all malevolent, all, quote, aliens, and they're just kind of putting a good face on it for some people? Do you think that they're all good and these people are just mistaken?

Or do you think the most likely scenario, it's just like people, you know, there's people who rob banks and murder people, and then there's, you know, people who do great acts of charity? where on that continuum do you fall on regardless of where they're from are they all good all bad or are they a mix i often use like the ant hill scenario where a child might look at an ant hill and think wow that's incredible like what's going on there i kind of want to just observe and see what's going on there another child's going to kick it to see what happens and destroy it and kill the ants because you can you have the power to do that

I think whatever these advanced intelligences are they are so far ahead of us clearly if they're visiting a year and they're able to communicate telepathically allegedly all of those things I do think

that I also think we're dealing with one intelligence obviously I mean people have reported so many different types of aliens or occupants or phenomena even that yeah I think just like human beings they all have different motives different intentions i mean look at each of us we all have a reason we do what we do why we communicate with someone on a day-to-day basis and there's constant negotiations going on every moment that every human being is interacting with one another I think it's the same with these beings. I think they're here for different reasons, maybe some good, maybe some bad.

But I will say, except for the psychological impact that a lot of these events can have on people, I've never come across a case where someone felt like they were in peril, in danger. It's terrifying. I can completely understand that. And sometimes they claim that they've had experiments done on them. that's extremely evasive, that's extremely intruding on your life. Again, psychologically, I can't imagine. But I have personally never come across a case where someone was like,

I thought I was going to die or I thought they wanted to harm me. That's not to say that's not happening. Again, I'm no expert. But yeah, I do think there are different reasons for all of these very famous UFO incidents to have happened. and the ones that just like I had or your parents had or somebody here might have had. Does anybody here have one?

Let's do it. I would love to open it up to the floor as part of our witness accounts. Yeah, yeah, we don't have a crazy amount of time because Jim and I are podcasters and we talk forever. How is this going to ask you said about it? Yes, in Brazil. Yeah. Good point.

Case in point. That was a very unfortunate incident where a visitor from elsewhere was shot and killed, if I'm not mistaken, by the Brazilian government. I'd be a little mad if I came all the way here to make contact and maybe be peaceful, and our first reaction is to boom. So, yeah, yeah. And there have been other cases like that. So again, there probably are cases of malevolence. I personally just haven't come across any of them, Tony. But, yeah, they've got to be out there.

Does anyone want to share a UFO story? If you feel comfortable, we'd love, if you can, we have an extra microphone here. It's just a short. Yeah, totally. Hi, everybody. Jennifer, I'm from Toledo, Ohio. and an experience in Houghton Lake, Michigan. So my brother and I, we have a podcast,

and we went up for a UFO convention in Houghton Lake. And when we were up there, there was a gentleman I can't mention his name. But he had a very, I'll just say he shouldn't have this, military-grade binocular, but it was just one. Monocular. That's what I didn't know what it was called. And he wouldn't even let me touch it, but he let me look through it.

And looking out over the lake, it's been reported in Houghton Lake that there's been sightings of UFOs in that area. And I was able to look through this monocular and saw things in the sky that you couldn't explain. It wasn't space junk. It wasn't comets or what would you call them? asteroids, I saw something moving at the most quickest speed of light that you could even imagine. And it was there and it was gone and just zipped across the sky. And with this device, which he shouldn't have had, he said, you could see just thousands and thousands of stars that you couldn't see with the naked eye. So I don't know. Did Joe, did you look through that as well?

Yeah. Yeah. You could just. We're used to like satellites, but these things would stop. direction. They stop, change directions, you know, just at the wing of an eye. It was on these. I'm glad you said that because a lot of reports I get are often attributed to the International Space Station or, yeah, satellites. SpaceX is like our biggest enemy right now with all of their launches.

I get reports all the time because it looks very weird when Elon's putting those things up there. So I'm glad you said, like the erratic behavior, the moving back and forth, like satellites don't do that. So that's very interesting. I should mention, too, I know exactly where you're talking about. I've spoken at that Howland Lake event, and I've seen things over that lake. And my UFO setting happened over water. The chief radar operator, all of the Nimitz crew had their experience over water. So there's got to be something there, too.

Well, you know, the thing that gets me about that is I'm sure you've seen the recent news reports of Harvard researchers coming out and talking about crypto terrestrials. What is that? Yeah. Well, this idea that they're here, I mean, we've always, I mean, I know, like I said, going back to In Search of them, I'm like, oh, they're out there, little green men. What if they're here? What if they're underground? What if they're interdimensional where they're like there's one sitting right there in front of you, sir? and we can't see him.

But really, I mean, and the thing is, particularly with U.S.Os and these transmedium craft that can go from the ocean to the 80,000 feet in the skies, you were saying, I mean, maybe we've been too focused on out there and not focused enough. And it really hit me in the last couple. I mean, I've been aware of this. There was a guy, Mack Tannies, who did work on this, who passed away. I mean, this is not an entirely new thought, but something the last couple weeks when I saw that in the news, it really hit me because it was always like, you know, number 72 on the list of possibilities in my mind. And now it's like, well, wait a minute, maybe we've been thinking about this the wrong way.

And that might be where it's tying in with other areas of paranormal because maybe there's a trickster element to this and maybe some of the ghosts we see. Or maybe, and I never believe this before, but maybe some of the cruechews. cryptids that we see. Because I always thought, I've always been a flesh and blood guy. They exist, but they're flesh and blood. But I wonder, maybe I was being too hasty. What do you think? I was talking to these guys, I'm going to point them out right now, earlier.

And one of their favorite cryptids is Mothman. And we were talking about Mothman for a while. And one of the most iconic cryptids of all time. Mothman. They made a movie about it. Richard Gere, love the guy. Grew up in my hometown. No big deal. And we were talking about how many different things happened in Point Pleasant at the time. You had the mothman. You had a crazy boom in UFO activity. You had the unfortunate bridge collapse. So much was going on at the time. Seth covered it in his Mothman documentary so well, so brilliantly. So shout out to small town monsters.

So I do think there is a connection. You can't tell me that all of those things just happen to be going on at the same time by coincidence. Maybe, but I've learned in the UFO field there's rarely coincidences. Everything seems to be happening for a reason, even if you don't think it is. And what you saw was complete happenstance at the time. It really, the meaning you put behind it, I think, is what's most important. Well, it's interesting because I interviewed a gentleman, been on my show multiple times. His name was Jim Willis.

Now, there's a James Willis here in Ohio. He's great. I've interviewed him, but this is a different Willis. But I just recently interviewed him on NDE's, and unfortunately, within a few weeks of that interview, he passed. But he had a great quote on his Facebook page. And I think it's one of the things that I've come to believe. and this may have been a famous quote from someone I don't know but the universe is not only

stranger than we imagine it is stranger than we can imagine and I think that's the truth I think that we are seeing through was a veil darkly is that the same and I think that we're just getting little tiny glimpses and the funny thing to me is I could see a scenario So we all give ourselves a big hand. The two or three hundred years from now, people are going to look back and they're going to say, you know what?

These people at these conferences and these paranormal podcasters, they were on to something with all these big deal scientists thought that they knew everything. And these guys were kind of getting it. They didn't have it, but they were on the right track. I think that's kind of a neat thought. I love to think that what we're doing here today will live on forever. Like, this will be immortalized now. Especially the paying for lunch part.

Yeah, that's it. Oh, gosh, don't remind me. I'm going to have to check my bank account after that. Does anyone else want to share a UFO story? Yes, please. Come on down. My name's Sue. I'm from Canton right now, but I'm originally from Canfield, Ohio.

And back in the 60s, it was, it was a small town. We lived in the woods, and all I can remember for my childhood is being terrorized by aliens. I had a balcony off of my bedroom, and it was in the back of the house, and I was surrounded by woods, so there were no lights. But I would be so paranoid before I went to bed. I would keep checking to make sure that the patio doors were locked.

but most of the time they'd be unlocked and I was aware I was young enough I was aware that something was under the bed at night time and so even to this day I will not get close to a bed I will jump in several feet away so that went on for years and my life has been nothing but bizarre I'm 65 and there's nothing that's ever been normal in my life but I've always been alone or because I'm 65 and there's nothing that's ever been normal in my life but I've always been alone or because no one could understand me. I'm pretty convinced that the aliens planted a chip in my shin bone, and every couple of years, it'll start

hurting, but there's nothing there. There's no scar. And especially, my daughter and I were doing research on the Ananakis and Samaria and my leg started hurting where that chip

was for probably about a year and then we got off that topic and it stopped hurting so I don't know why it hurt but to this day I always have a voice in my head talking to me it's different people so when somebody

alive or real talks to me I'm like what wait I had to tell this person you know I have orbs in my house I have fairies in my house I have shadow figures I bought a

haunted house that I was flipping and the man from the 1700s tried to kill me and he conjured up angels and I got all this information from Stark County history and I realized that the angels that he was conjuring in the basement were the fallen angels which are demons so of course I had demons in my house where I was living. I had a paranormal investigation done by Rokes Hollow, paranormal group. The people from Mansfield Reformatory that run that program, they also do Amy Bruney's Kindred Spirit show there up in Cleveland.

They came and investigated my house. They could not get rid of the man. He was so evil. He had been a human at one time. but it was probably the demons that were the hard ones to get rid of. So if you ever come face to face with a demon, you turn to God like right now. So I pray all day long. I talk to Jesus. I've also had three near-death experiences,

the last one last fall. I was with Jesus, and he showed me a movie of my life, and he focused on when I should have said no to ex-husbands. And I came back to life, but I've had three different kind of experiences in those near-death experiences. Right. Well, those are that, to me, near-death experience is one of the most fascinating things. Ryan, I have a question.

Thank you. I don't know if you have any questions. Thank you so much. Thank you for sharing. I have a question for you, which the storyteller brings up. And you ask me, so I'll ask you now. Do you see a connection between ghosts, UFOs, cryptids, and things? I mean, do you, is that an emerging theme? I mean, for example, I remember Brad Steiger.

I interviewed quite a few times the great Brad Steiger. And he told me that over the years of decades of doing this, he came to realize that he was very siloed. Are you coming more to that realization? Yes, primarily because I'm now doing a ghost hunting TV show. I've worked with Amy, Bruni in the past as well. I am primarily a UFO guy, but I've had the opportunity for the past three years to travel to Nova Scotia in Canada and investigate the most haunted places out there.

And man, it is a creepy. It's like out of Stephen King, honestly. And I was extremely intimidated. I'm not a ghost hunter. I don't know how all that works, but I learned and I stumbled through it. And now I'm on my like fourth season and I feel like I'm finally grasping like how to do it, like how to try, attempt to communicate with something. But at the same time, like I was brought in for a reason. It wasn't because I was a ghost hunter.

It's because I am a UFO hunter. And the people in the show prior to me were starting to have a lot of things happen that were not just in the haunted house. The hitchhiker effect. They had the hitchhikers. UFOs were being seen during some of their investigations over the haunted house. So when they told me that, I was like, I'm all in. Like, I want to, well, you go in there and try to communicate with a spirit.

I'm going to go outside and see if there's a UFO activity. And let's see if we can connect these dots. And I'm starting to really feel that, yes, all of this is somehow connected. I spoke to a mother and daughter in Michigan who had, had a triangular UFO sighting, similar to mine, but directly after that event, they had crazy poltergeist activity in their home. Their power would go on constantly, so much that they had the electrician come to try to fix the power, and the electrician had a dramatic UFO sighting over their home as well. He, I tailed it out of there. He's like, I'll find someone

else to do it. I don't want to be a part of this. And then they started seeing shadow figures in their home. And this all started, allegedly, from this initiation experience of seeing a UFO over their home. So I do. I'm starting to really think all of it somehow can, the more you zoom out, it has to be. I'm not saying Bigfoot's flying a flying saucer. But he might be. Actually, that's one of, I got to share this real quick. One of the best, somebody called in, and we don't know who it was. I don't know how they got my phone number. They called and left a voicemail for me in their way. like, Bigfoot's out here and is mining uranium. I have no idea.

But anyway, I'm sorry, I just remind me of that. Yeah. But I agree with you. And I also wonder sometimes if something's messing with this, the trickster. The trickster element to all of this fascinates me. It keeps me going. Because the minute I think I know what's going on with any of this stuff, I don't. the one, you know, I thought I had explained away some of the ghost stuff I'd experience,

and then, no, I was proven wrong, literally by the evidence. So that was interesting. So many people who think they knew what they saw UFO-wise will then come to the realization that it was something completely different. And it really depends on the lens in which you look at the experience. If you are a spiritual person, if you do see a UFO, maybe that was a spiritual experience. You go all the way back to the famous,

what was that citing, that the kids saw what they thought was the Virgin Mary. Oh, you know what it is. Fatima. Fatima. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, that's a prime example

where the famous UFO researcher Jacques Valet went back and looked at the interviews with these children and looked at what other people reported during the Fatima sightings. And he said, dude, this is a UFO. Like the way they described what the quote unquote Virgin Mary looked like, it was a eclipse, it was circular, it was golden, it shined, it hovered,

and then it flew up into the sky and disappeared. A situation like that. So, I mean, you can go back to like antiquity. Yeah. And what one person thought was maybe something was something completely different. The Bible talks about chariots. Yeah. Chariates of the gods.

Yeah. Yeah, it's such a, the thing I love about these topics is you can literally just go down the rabbit hole and can go in so many directions. That's why I think it is cogent to have a UFO person or a ghost person or people of different kind of parallel or adjacent things to a cryptic conference because there are those connections. I think many of us who have the interest in cryptids also are very interested in ghosts and UFO. So that's why I think it's such a natural fit. and honestly cryptid people are the nicest people I've ever met I'm going to so many UFO conferences

and some of those things end in like fistfights but like I didn't know what to expect coming to this event honestly I'm a UFO person I didn't know if anyone would care what I was doing here but this has been one of my most favorite experiences I've ever had and everyone's been incredible honestly so I think we're

We're at our time almost. Does anyone else want to share maybe a brief last UFO story? If not, it's totally okay. I have a short one. Yeah. Yeah, please, please. Come on down. Come on down.

All right. You get a car. So, this one? Okay. So my name's Samantha from Rochester, New York. Relatively big skeptic, but I've had a couple of experiences, I guess UFO and paranormal that I can't explain. This one was, I don't remember a few years ago.

I was visiting my parents in Rochester, New York. They live in a dead end street. There's woods on a couple of sides. You have the Oronicoight Bay, Lake Ontario. And they have a split level. So I'm in the basement. I'm used to headlights coming in when the newspaper gets delivered, deer hitting the handle or hitting the window, looking at their eyes.

So I've been woken up by lots of things. But it was probably 2, 3 o'clock in the morning. And I had the shades drawn, pitch black. these three big purple lights illuminated the room. So I was like, this is a weird color. So I opened up the blinds, looking out, and it's three big triangles. They're moving pretty quick.

I've lived with airplanes going overhead. I know the height differences, but it was very low, very big. I didn't even have enough time to get my phone to record anything because growing up with my dad, always got to take pictures, always got to record, so I knew, but I couldn't even get to them. And it was one of those just really jarring.

Like, what did I see? Why was it purple? Why were they triangles? Where were they going? Didn't last very long. I've had another experience that my husband and I disproved. We're like, okay, no, Starlink that was going out that night. So we knew like, disprove that. This was, nothing was talked about. Nothing was published. I was like, I don't know what it was. Just one of those things where these really big, bright purple lights, distinct shapes lit up the entire sky. And I couldn't find out any information after that. Do you want to know what it was? I always like to ask people. I like to learn, so it would never freak me out to find out. But it was just one of those things. That's why I looked it up. Like I shared my dad in the morning. I tried to find out if I could learn anything new about it.

Nothing was reported. No, nothing was going out into outer space that night. But just three huge triangular lights moving in a pattern. And it was a weird, bright purple light that I had never seen in the sky before. Wow. Yeah. That's so interesting. Thank you. Thank you for sharing it.

It reminds me of the early food fighter phenomenon. Not the band, but back during World War II, all these pilots, whether they were ally or Axis, were reporting these orange orbs circling their planes and shutting down their instruments. And everyone was like, is that you? No. Is that you guys? No. And they never figured out what the fighter phenomenon was.

And then you saw it again in the 60s, Robert Salas, Malstrom Air Force Base shut down those ICBMs, which reminded me a little bit of the drive-in because it shut down the cars. And they seem to have an interest in military things for sure. They do. And the reason I brought up the food fighters is because there seems to be an intelligence behind these things, whether it's just lights in like a choreographed dance almost, which always fascinated me, that you're not just dealing with like a satellite doing what it should be doing. You seem to be dealing with things that are circling around another, going in the same direction. And then it's almost like what drones can do today, but they're clearly not drones. These things have been reported since World War II.

So that's interesting. I'm really fascinated by that. Yeah, I think we'll start to wrap things up here. We're going just about to our time. But Jim's going to be doing a live podcast recording later today. Yes, we'll be doing Camp Fire at 4 to 30 Live. welcome ghosts, crypted, UFO, head scratchers,

and we hope to, if you haven't expressed a story here, I hope you'll come back and express some stories and we'll get some storytellers and get a good, nice warm campfire going. Get it crackling. I'll get the stories. 430, 430, yeah.

I want to thank you guys, those who shared, those who came to this. It really does mean a lot to me. Witness accounts is my most popular series. So you guys are going to be listened to by a lot of people. But if you do want to share a story with me, either privately or publicly, you can always reach out to me. I've got a table over there. If you want to come tell me your story over there,

or if you want to just email me, I would love to hear your stories. They eventually become books, too. So you'll also live on in book perpetuity. But yeah, you can check out everything I do at somewhere in the skies.com. This is where my heart truly lay. It's with the stories that people bring to me. So again, I want to thank you guys for coming. And I hope to see you again, somewhere in the skies. Thank you. This is Somewhere in the Skies with Brian Sprague.

My name is Jason. I just wanted to share some experiences that I had. I'll be honest, I don't know how to categorize this. I don't know if it was, if you would like to call it ghostly paranormal, or if it was something that was more alien or, or something like that. When I was younger, maybe, I would say maybe 10 years old. I grew up in a house that was built in 1881.

Sometimes I'd fall asleep in my parents' bed. Now, this house was, it was basically two rooms stacked on top of each other. It was a really small house. So the bottom floor was the living room, and then had an attached kitchen. And there was a bedroom that was added on some years before we moved in. So the footprint of the house is only maybe 25 by 25. The whole upstairs was my parents' bedroom,

and the only bathroom was upstairs above the kitchen off of their bedroom. This will be a little more important in a minute here. Sometimes I would fall asleep in my parents' bed watching TV, and we would always have my cousins coming over to spend the night or to hang out, and we kept a crib mattress over in the side of their bed to put the kids down whenever they would fall asleep. Well, one night I fell asleep in the bed, And instead of carrying me all the way back downstairs in my room that was attached to the living room,

my dad put me down on the crib mattress on the floor next to my mom's side of the bed. I woke up in the middle of night, rolled over, and my mom was sitting on the floor next to me, kind of was with her legs crossed, and I reached over and like, hey, mom, how's it going? You know, I was surprised to see her there. My hand went right through whatever it was there. I just kind of rolled over and basically pretended to be. asleep. I have no idea what that was. I mean, I certainly wouldn't call that alien by any stretch. But sometime later, maybe two years later, I was downstairs in my room. I'd go to the bathroom

of the night, went through the living room, up the stairs, and diagonally across the bedroom, standing in that same spot next to my mom's nightstand. I saw something standing there. I don't know really how to describe it. It was I couldn't make out detail because it was dark and partially because I wear glasses but I didn't have my glasses on since I was just going to the bathroom. So I could swear that I saw something grayish, something whitish that kind of had some contrast against the darkness.

I don't know if it was slightly glowing or luminescent or if it was just that much brighter than the surrounding environment that it just kind of stood out. But I just, I pretended that I, didn't see it, and I kept moving off to my left, went in the bathroom, hurry up and shut the door, and did my best not to have a panic attack, basically, because I was really certain that I saw something there. After a little while, did my business. I left the light on, which I normally wouldn't do, because I don't want to wake my parents up when I opened the door, left the light on,

cracked the door open, didn't see anything out there. I let the light shine right on where I saw this thing, and there was nothing there. So I shut the light off, bolted out of the bathroom, ran down the stairs, dove into my bed. That was it. When I was 14, yeah, I was just about to turn 14. We moved into a newer house. It was built maybe in the 50s or so. I had pretty much the run of the basement.

It was pretty well finished. There was a living room-sized room, a couple of bedrooms that were smaller bathrooms. So that was kind of my domain down there. One night I was asleep, I was dreaming, and I remember not much of the dream, but I kept hearing some voice whispering my name. And at first I thought it was in my dream.

It's kind of like how when you're watching TV and you're half asleep, the voices can kind of infiltrate your dream and actually influence your dream and become part of it sometimes. It started off like that, where I heard somebody whispered my voice, and I remember in my dream looking around like, who's calling for me. And it happened a couple more times, maybe three or four times. And each time it happened, I would wake up. up a little bit more because I couldn't figure out where this whisper was coming from.

And then I finally figured out that, oh, I'm dreaming. It must be my dad trying to wake me up. So I didn't open my eyes or anything. I just kind of, I woke up finally. And even as I was waking up, I heard it one more time. So I'm like, what? Like, I really thought it was my dad because it sounded like my dad. And nothing replied. There was nothing there. I didn't look around. I know I heard this thing, and it was multiple times. It wasn't something that was just in my head, at least. I didn't want to think that it was anything real, but I was convinced that I actually heard this.

But I just turned over. I stayed awake until morning because I was that scared. And if there's somebody standing behind you, you can just tell, I don't know if it's the acoustics in the room, or the energy they give off or whatever you want to call it, where you can always tell that there's somebody standing right next to you, if there is. I felt that in my room.

But I didn't want to acknowledge it. I didn't want it to think that I was aware of it. I was just terrified. So I stayed up until morning and finally, when the sun was up, I had the guts to roll over and look and there was nothing there. So I convinced myself, you know, it was part of your dream, it was in your head. I didn't tell anybody about it. Well, I had friends that would come over.

I lived right across the street from the school. So I had one friend especially would spend the night more often than not. and he would just walk over to go to school with me in the morning. When he fell asleep in my bed once, this was maybe a month or two later from me hearing the initial whispering. He fell asleep in my bed, so I didn't want to disturb him. I figured I'd just let him sleep there.

So I went upstairs into the main level of the house and slept in the living room on the couch. Well, the next morning, go down there to sit at my computer and hang out and he's up, and he starts telling me about a voice that's whispering my name that woke him up. And he said that he looked over in the corner of my room, and he saw this figure that had some contrast with the surrounding darkness that was, he couldn't tell if it was faintly luminescent or if it was just white enough that it stood out that much.

And as he was telling me this, I felt all the blood, just rush from my face. Just, I, that was just hearing him recount what happened to me without him having any prior knowledge of it was, was so strange and so terrifying. So, but that's,

as far as direct experiences, that's all I've got. I will say that I've had, and this is, the rest of this probably goes long with just having a passing interest in the paranormal aliens, that kind of thing. Even when I was a kid in elementary, entry school, I'd be looking for those kinds of books in the library and checking them out and stuff.

So that there may be some bias there or something that I'm seeing through that lens. But I would have dreams once in a while that, you know, I'm being abducted or carried away by a couple of aliens or something like that, like down a hallway or something. And I would have these frequently enough that it was really starting to, I got past the point where I was scared. And it was becoming annoying. And one night, I had a dream where I was in my childhood house, back in the original house, that was built in the 1800s.

And in the kitchen, there was a gray. Definitely a gray. It wasn't. There was no question about it. He was standing at the far end of the kitchen. And he was just staying in there staring at me. And I just got so angry. Like, I've never felt so much rage in my life up to that point.

And I just start swearing at this thing. like leave me the aphalon get out of here get out of my life i don't want to see you stop coming around the dream ended and i never had any more dreams like that afterward now maybe that was my my subconscious way of dealing with some latent fears i had or something like that but it's just it was interesting from my perspective that all of that sort of thing stopped after that that that night. But that's about all I have. Hopefully it's at least entertaining,

but it's been something that's a, that shared experience of having the whisper saying my name between me and my friend without any sort of hinting or prior knowledge on his part. That kind of solidified for me that there are definitely things out there that we don't fully understand or not fully aware of.

Hey, Ryan. My name's Matt. I'm 38 years old. and I live on the Gulf Coast of Mississippi. But if you might be able to tell from my slightly obnoxious accent, I didn't grow up here. I grew up on Long Island. The event I'm going to tell you about takes place in 2003. I was 17 years old.

This was about the end of the summer, probably end of July, beginning of August, just as it was starting to get cool out. I probably had the day off a Taco Bell. I was with my buddy Sean. I don't think he had a job. at the time. He joined the Marines right after high school, and I'd lost touch with him. But on this day, it was pretty much like every other day. We just were hanging out, doing what we did. We were just

going back and forth between my mom's condo and his mom's apartment. He lived in a place called Artis Lake in Middle Island. They had this little duck lake in front of it, I guess, and a sod farm like to, I guess he would say behind it, which was weird because it was seemed out of place. There was a school behind it on one side is another school on the other side,

a big road on the other side in this apartment complex, a couple apartment complexes flanking the other side of it. And it just seemed like weird. It was just massive lawn. A sod farm is basically where people get grass. Like, have you ever seen somebody, like, get a new lawn put in where they just roll out the grass?

That's what this was. It was just a big, giant lush lawn with a tiny little house in, I guess, the northeast corner of it. And we would just hang out on the other corner and just do what we did. We smoked wheat. We were 17. That's what we did. If you're the type of person who says, like, you know, well, your story is not credible

anymore because you weren't completely sober. Let me just tell you right now, we were smoking the worst weed in the world. It was 2003, and it was garbage. brickweed and believe me we were barely barely high at all but if that's enough for you to duck out of the story and that makes it totally not credible then fine i understand whatever but i'm gonna be honest that's what we were doing out there we weren't just walking dogs are doing our homework we were hanging out smoking dupies but uh anyway so we're sitting on this field i see this little red dot just shoot out from behind his head in the sky like and i'm like

what the hell is that bro look at this So we get up, we start looking around. There's a couple of them. I remember at least two of them, little red dots. Just seemed like little red lights just flying around. And it's like, that was weird enough. But then he goes, look, dude, look on the... And he points me to the other side of the field.

There's this big green football-shaped thing with little red diamonds going through it. And it's just sitting there. It's just not moving. It's just hung in the sky, like the fucking moon. Just sit there. It was the weirdest thing I've ever seen. I was just getting all. I mean, Sean was like the cool guy. He never got excited about anything. He was just standing there smirking, just going, yeah, I've seen all sorts of stuff in this field. It's weird, right? And I'm just, I'm just losing my mind. It was the coolest thing I've ever seen. I felt like it knew we were there. I can't explain this part. This makes me sound insane. But I felt like it knew we were there. It was totally cool with it. It was almost like giggling along with us, like, his and it's cool. I'll never be able to explain that part. There's a lot of.

of this story, I can't explain. But I'll just stick to the stuff I can report observationally. This thing was green, glowing green with little red dots in the middle. I can't tell how big it was or how far it was because there was nothing to really judge distance. It was just above the tree line. If it was close

to the edge of the tree line, I'd say it was about the size of a minivan. If it was far and up and far away from that tree line, it might have been the size of a school bus. It was very, very big, and I'm sure the red dots flying around had something to do with it. I don't think it was a coincidence. They must have come together. I don't know.

But we sat there and watched this thing for probably 30 minutes, 40 minutes, something like that. I don't know. I really lost track of the time. We were just sitting there just transfixed by this thing. At the same time, it just started becoming normal. It moved one way and then the other way, and it would just stop. and I was like, maybe it's a blimp, and I'm like, but that doesn't make sense. Since blimps don't do this, why would anyone have a blimp?

It was, it definitely wasn't a drone. It wasn't any kind, it was just the weirdest. It didn't make any kind of noise. It just hovered there and just went, it just went across the other side of the field. Now, at some point, we just, we just kind of watched it and watched it and watched it. And eventually, we heard some sort of ATVs coming, like, you know, the sound of like four-wheelers coming. And they're like, all right, we'd never really heard anybody driving four-wheelers in that

field before, but I'm not saying, you know, it's government agents or whatever. I don't know. Maybe it was just somebody driving their ATVs, but we looked over the other side of the, like, the hill coming over, and yeah, it was two people riding ATVs on the opposite side of the tree line. So we started getting a little

queasy about standing there, like, you know, maybe we should go. This might be, you know, the owners of the sod farm. Maybe they're going to kick us out. Who knows? But before we could even think about turning around, we started hearing a helicopter, coming down real loud, really low, and comes across the opposite side of the field with a spotlight shine. Now, I didn't see this helicopter.

I couldn't tell, you know, it was a private helicopter, military helicopter. And on top of this, I'm 17 years old. It's not like I'm an aviation expert. I don't know anything about helicopters. It's just a big-ass loud helicopter, shining spotlight, it's just flickering all over the field, and it shines it at us, and then shines away and shines back at us. And we're like, you know, let's get out of here, man.

So we turn around, we go back through this little trail. It's probably like 20 feet of woods until you get back to his apartment complex, right? Now, we get to his apartment, which isn't really far away from the end of this trail, and we turn around. We could still see this thing glowing. We could still see this thing flying around, you know? It was still there. And we're like, we should go get some, we should get a camera.

We should go. And we're like, you know, we're going to look insane. You know, we don't really want to go. knock on the door and be like, mom, give us a camera. There's a UFO outside. And I don't know. I don't know why we didn't just bring her outside and tell it a look. But I don't know.

When these things happen, I guess you just don't really think of all these logical things. But anyway, the weirdest thing about it is we're acting this complex. And I didn't think of this until years later. And it still bothers me. There was no one around. There was not a single person driving their car or outside or walking around. nothing. No one was walking a dog. Nobody was hanging out smoking blunts outside. No one was driving nothing. And this was an apartment complex in Long Island. And, you know, it was maybe 10 o'clock at night,

1030, whatever. But that wasn't, that wasn't anything. I mean, this place was usually busy around this. I just, it never made sense to me how there was not a single person that I could point to and say, hey, look at that thing in the sky. There was nobody around. I don't get it. I walked halfway back to my house before I started seeing cars on the road before I had to cross the street. And there was nobody around. And when I turned out, it was gone. And I don't know. To this day, I still don't know what that thing was.

I don't know what happened. I'm not sure if it was aliens. And I only say that because that seems too simple in explanation. Because everything was weird. Every single thing about that event was weird. The whole day was weird. It seems, I really feel like there's something to this phenomena, whatever you want to call it, that is a bigger part of reality that we just don't understand.

And I know I sound stupid saying that, but there's just something bigger going on that we don't get. I don't know if it's just little green men from Venus. Like, I don't know. That's too simple an explanation for what happened. Like, there was nobody around. That made no sense. That might not sound like a big deal to you, but I knew this area. And it was like you could hear a pin drop.

There was not a noise. There was nothing. No one around. It made no sense. Other than the helicopter and those ATV things driving around. I didn't see anyone. It was bizarre. But anyway, that's it.

That's the whole story. And if anybody could ever find Sean, let me know. I mean, I could give you his last name or whatever. Hey everyone, Ryan Sprague here, host of Somewhere in the Skies. If you've ever thought about supporting us, we have great two easy options for you right now. If you listen to the show on Apple Podcasts, you can click the subscribe button at the top of your Apple feed. Or you can join our Patreon at patreon.com slash somewhere skies. Both of these options give you the same benefits.

Early access to the main show. bonus episodes and content and priority to ask our guests your listener questions. So to help support Somewhere in the Skies, click that subscribe button on Apple or visit patreon.com slash somewhere skies. Thank you so much for your support and keep looking up. Hey Ryan, this is Brad. I'm an approximately 50-year-old mechanical engineer from Michigan. I've got three different occurrences that I was wanting to share with you. They span over quite a long period of time, so I'll go through them like in a chronological order.

The first one was, I'm guessing sometime around 1976 or so. My family's from the Upper Peninsula in Michigan, and we were driving home at night, like Sunday night, and the trip home is you take U.S. 2, east and then I-75 south so and that's part of the story as well what happened was at some point during the trip a bright light just appeared over our car and most of this story is from my family members that I've asked over the years individually and together to re-create the story so the light appeared over our car and my dad got out still he's pulled over

got out, looked at it, didn't, he looked, I thought it was a helicopter, but there was no noise. And then some, my brothers were in the backseat with me. And I'm too young to really remember it. And it's a vague memory in my mind. But my brothers are five and seven years older than me,

so they have pretty clear recollection of it. And according to my brother, it just, at one point, it just shot off, like, diagonally, extremely fast. And the interesting thing, aside from that, is as I've asked my dad, my mom, both my brothers individually over the years, none of them are clear if it happened on actually US2 or an I-75. And again, this was a mid-70s, so there's no cell phones or anything like that or, you know, I've run out of watch. But the thing I always wanted to ask, like my dad or my mom, and I have asked, my dad's passed away now. but whether or not there was like a lost time even like considering they can't remember which freeway it happened on.

So that's something that I always thought was potentially like, and maybe even they were abducted. Probably not. I mean, I wouldn't think so, but maybe. I don't know. So that was one of the interesting events. I asked my brother to, like within the last six months about this again. And I asked my mom still for this day. And all of them have a very clear recollection of this event. So it was pretty interesting. I can't imagine the amount of guts it took for my dad to get out and look at that.

But back then, I guess, wasn't really a widely known phenomenon. Okay, the second story I have, which to me is the most interesting because it happened to myself. So this took place approximately 1919. 98 or 99. I don't remember exactly. This was that my house. It was a Sunday night probably about 9.30 p.m.

And I was outside smoking a cigar. My family, my wife and my two children were in the house sleeping. Summer night, beautiful weather, calm, no clouds. We were close to an airport. And there was Sunday nights are usually really busy air-plenty traffic, but this night

there really wasn't. So my home faces south and it's a very wooded lot with large trees. So line of sight is not good in the sky. Straight up, yes, but on any angles, no, none whatsoever. So I'm just pacing around up front thinking about everything I have to do the next day and smoking a cigar and just walking around and just noticed how quiet it was. And then just something flew over my head from the east to the west. And I didn't see it.

It what appeared to be relatively low to the ground. It didn't, I mean, I don't have anything to gauge that other than the sound it made and just the sheer speed of it. And again, we've had, you know, I've watched thousands of planes fly over me. And this was, whatever it was, was moving incredibly fast. And the odd part, I mean, I never heard it approaching. But when it passed over me, so when it was heading west, as it passed, there was just the strangest sound that it made. I mean, it was something that when I heard it, I knew it was just a sound that I'd never hear again. Or, like, man, I'd hoped to never hear again, actually.

And to describe the sound, I mean, it, I'm not even sure. how to describe it because it was just that odd. I mean, at first I thought it was more like a reverberation sound, but the best way to describe it. And, you know, it's something that you might hear in like a Star Wars blaster gun or something like that or even in some of the newer Star Wars movies just how the engine sounds are. But still nothing close to that, but that's the closest thing I can relate it to. And then I was listening to a podcast and someone was talking about if you can manipulate space time for travel, it causes vibrations. And then so I made me think of this sound again. And that may be what that I heard was it was almost an audible vibration and not don't

it wasn't like a metal metal vibration, not like a banging vibration, but that's like I don't If air could vibrate, maybe that's what it was. So the sound, it was just so odd. I have no idea how that's the best I can do to describe it. And it wasn't like a loud sound either. It was just a kind of a faint passing by. Almost like when you hear the Jetson's introduction and the thing kind of buzzing by,

that's what it sounded like. You just like a faint maybe 70 decibels is about. what I would guess the sound level was. So that was the occurrence. So the strangest part of it to me was as soon as it went by, I just had a sense of extreme fear and dread. I have no idea why. I immediately just threw my cigar out into the lawn.

I walked through my garage. It was an attached garage. Closed with both personnel entry doors, locked non. I closed my garage door, went into the back door from my house, the connecting wall. I locked that door. I locked every door and window in the house, sat in the living room by myself in fear, half expecting some type of creature to come through, one of the breakthrough one of the doors. It was, that was so, I mean, even telling the story right now, the hair and my arms and stuff and neck is standing up.

the fear that it instilled in me was such an odd feeling. I will never forget it, and I hope I don't hear it again. And I'm not an easily scared guy. I mean, I go up in the UP and I walk out into the woods in 5.30 at the morning with no flashlight or anything of that nature, and I'm not scared whatsoever. So for this to happen to me, it was like, you know, it was terrifying. And I don't know what it was. think I'll ever know what it was. I think I'd want to know what it was, honestly. So

that's the end of my second story right there. I wish I had better information, but that's what happened, and it was really out. So the last story I have is, it happened in, like about, I think it was December 12th of 2023. We were, I was down in Florida. We went on a fishing trip, So we were just south of Tampa a little ways over by a place called John's Pass. We were on the south side of John's Pass right on the ocean. It was about 1130 p.m. We decided to go out and the guys don't want to go fishing. So we were going to go out to the ocean.

So as we were walking out to the ocean, so we were so close. We were a block from the ocean and we were walking across the sand. And I just happened to look up. And when I looked up, I saw two. two parallel lights flying east to west. They were, neither was leading or trailing. They were both flying exactly the same parallel pattern and exactly in line with each other.

And it was moving really fast, like an asteroid would see shoot across the sky. And that's kind of, that's what I thought it was. And then as I'm watching them, they did what the best I could call is like a helix maneuver. They crisscrossed. patterns and maintain the same parallel distance and then they were still in line with each other

and then they just disappeared i had no idea what was it yeah could have been an asteroid but it was just it almost looked like a military type maneuver like if you were um doing a thatch weave or something like that for an old school uh fighter plane uh propeller plane type maneuvers obviously this was that you know very high speed and it was a really odd occurrence and I did make a post on Reddit about it at one point and there's again it and there's no way I could have taken a picture because I looked at lasted out maybe two three seconds and it was gone so that's the end of my last story and I appreciate the time and thank you very much hi Ryan and hi somewhere in disguise listeners First of all, thanks for inviting experiencers to share their stories.

I think that's a real important thing, and the more voices we have out there, the more people will take us seriously. Anyway, my name is John. I live in South Georgia in the United States, somewhere in between the Ophi-Kinoki Swamp and the Arama Hall River. I'm a farm boy. I grew up milk and a cow, gathering eggs, and... that kind of thing. In 1980, when I was 15 years old, my father and I had a close encounter with a UFO

while we were fishing on a river. We had lines out in the Satilla River, that's about an hour from the house. We put in in Woodbine, Georgia. That's a little town, it's got a boat ramp, and we went up river, and we started pulling catfish. We had trot lines out. those are long lines with multiple baited hooks

and we stretched them across the river and weight them down so they're on the bottom and then you go back and you pull the lines and pull the fish and rebate and you do this multiple times throughout the day and night well we were doing it at night it's the classic two in the morning kind of thing and when we were pulling lines in the middle of the river we noticed the thing, whatever it was. It was lit up. It lit up the trees around it, lit up the water under it.

It was about treetop high. And it was within about 100 yards of us. What I remember seeing was intersecting planes of light. It was like blue-white light sheets of it. But it was in the form of a four. four-sided pyramid that's called a tetrahedron, but like stretched on its side kind of. It wasn't like regular. It was stretched out. And it looked to me to have occupants, at least one. And I got the impression that they were watching us as we were watching them.

I haven't seen anything like it before since. I got the impression that it was a craft. that it was under intelligent control, and that it or they were interested in me and my father, like it was watching us. There was no noise, there was no wind, and everything seemed to be still on the river. We also didn't feel any kind of fear. I don't remember feeling much,

but wondering what this thing was, trying to put it somewhere in my head that I can understand it. I don't know how long we watched it. I don't know how much time passed or what really transpired during that time. But eventually, it kind of moved up the river and just out of sight. And my father and I, we really didn't talk a whole lot. He was a man of few words, not really a conversationalist. We just went back to fishing.

And when we got home, we told my... brother and my mother about it. My brother remembers me saying it looked kind of like a triangle, but not much more than that. And as far as I remember, the family never really spoke of it again to anybody. It kind of was dropped, and I forgot about it. That memory was not there, and for a long time, I was a real skeptic about UFOs and what people claimed to have seen. And, um, I don't know why, I guess because I didn't remember that. But the memory, the weird thing about this memory was it came back a few years ago as I was watching a YouTube video. Somewhere around 2020 or so.

I can remember the video and there was a phrase that someone said that seemed to trigger this memory popping up in my head. That's really a kind of a weird thing, but human memory is weird. Anyway, someone was talking about UAPs and how the only technology that would explain all five observables would be the control of time. And that kind of freaked me out, and the memory popped up then. And I stopped the video. I remember that. And I went inside. My father was alive at the time.

I went inside and asked my dad. I said, do you remember a UFO we saw on the river when I was a kid? And he said, yeah, now that you mentioned it, yes, I remember that. It was a weird thing. I said, yeah, did we ever talk about it much? He said, no, not that I remember. And then I asked him what he saw. Now, what he saw, what he remembered seeing was different than what I remember seeing.

I saw, like I said, a tetrahedron, and maybe occupants. he saw a what looked like to him an airplane fuselage with portholes with beings inside of it looking out at us but he also remembered the time thing and the lit up thing and the rest of it but what he saw was different than what I saw I've since learned that that's common if it's kind of a real experience if it's one of those one of those things whatever they are sometimes people

we'll see different things or experience different things standing side by side. It was just me and him, but at least he remembered it. I don't know if the memory was suppressed or buried. I do know that it's weird that when it popped back up, I started having really strange stuff happen, like UAP activity, some, oh, paranormal activity, and that kind of thing. it's kind of a strange thing only within the last few years like I said before that I was I was a kind of a skeptic and since that memory popped up things have been different my worldview has shifted

I was a non-believer and that changed a lot I've experienced a lot in the last few years I used to laugh at the people who claimed to be able to channel information outside of themselves But then I started experiencing stuff like downloads myself. So I can say that the world is stranger than I can imagine. And I can also say it's really cool to be alive during this time when we have all these changes actually going on. I want to say thank you, Ryan, for the opportunity to share a bit. And I want to say, Blessed Be, fellow travelers.

Ryan, first of all, thank you so much for inviting me to tell my story. I have many, but I think this one is the most digestible and relatable. I'd rather not give my name just yet, if that's okay. I live in central New York, and I'm a spiritual medium, and I've been a paranormal investigator for almost 20 years. I would say that my stand on the paranormal is somewhat mixed, and especially when it comes to UFOs or UAPs, I'm a bit on the skeptical side,

but I have seen some weird stuff, so I'm a little bit all over the place, but I try not to let my experiences color any future experiences, if you know what I mean. So my story starts on Monday. It was December 13, 2021. It was early evening, probably around 6 or 630, and I was driving home from having my car serviced. And I was listening to a podcast, as I normally do. it was completely dark out. I remember that because it's December and it's six something at night, right? So I'm very careful when I'm driving. I normally though when I'm driving at night, I look up at the sky. I watch the stars as much as I can, you know, safely. And it was a very crisp, clear evening. I remember that because I was looking at the stars and I could see them very well. And, and I was a very crisp, clear evening. I remember that. And I was a very crisp, I remember that. And I was a very well. And, And so as I'm looking, I'm driving down this road. There's nobody else on the road. And I look up in the sky just above the road in front of me, and there is a bright white light in the sky.

And it wasn't really moving at first. It just sort of was drifting. And then all of a sudden, it shoots off. I can't remember which direction. I think it might have been left. But it just shot off and disappeared very quickly. And I'm thinking to myself, that definitely was not a plane. Planes don't do that. And I don't think it's a shooting star because I've never seen one do that. Also, never that low in the sky. It's always way up there and it shoots off at least trail or something. This was definitely not that. It just seemed to appear to be sitting there when I looked at it. And it's almost as if it wanted me to see it. I don't know any other way to describe it. It was just like sitting there waiting for me.

So I noticed it. It started drifting a little bit. And then all of a sudden it shot off and disappeared. And it's not like it went out of sight, right? It didn't just go until I couldn't see it anymore. It literally disappeared. And I'm sitting there going, hmm that's weird and like it just like swipe left you know it was out of there so

I don't know what it was um it was just way too low to be anything natural that I can point my finger to so seeing this I um looking back on it it was shocking to say the least but what I really loved about it was that it felt kind of fun And what I mean by that is it felt like kind of a game, like it was intelligent or something. I don't know how I, why I feel this way, it just felt that way. I mean, I had to wonder if it wanted me to see it. And I mean, it was just hovering there. It was bright as it could be and very low.

And it definitely felt like it knew I was there. And so I immediately went home and made a video about this for all. of my social accounts so that I had a document of it for myself, right? Did I report it? No, of course not, because I know I should have, but I got busy and completely forgot about it, honestly. But this also reminded me of something else that I have seen when I was younger. I was probably about 22 or so. And when I came out of work one night, I lived in Abingdon, Virginia, and at the time I used to be a waitress. I was working my way through college, so I worked at night.

So I'm coming out of work. As I normally would have, I looked up at the sky on my way to the car because I'm a sky girl, you know. And it was summertime. I remember that because it was incredibly clear out, and I took my time going to my car. So I look up right above my head, and I saw something very strange. It was at the height where you would see a jet or a plane or something. but I only saw like green and red lights. The green lights were there stationary

and red ones were revolving around it. So as I looked at it, I'm like running through all the explanations at the time. You know, I'm like, hmm, I don't hear anything, so it's not a helicopter. Could it be some kind of military craft? I don't know. This was a long time ago, so who knows? But there was no sound at all. and it was just hovering there and the lights just kept going around.

And suddenly I remember feeling very anxious and started to worry for like no apparent reason. I just got really anxious and suddenly felt like something was really, really wrong and that I needed to get out of there just like immediately. So yeah, I did. I ran to my car and I wrote it like I stole it out of the parking lot and I went straight home. and I just remember that it was almost palpable in its creepiness. I can still feel that sensation today. And I don't know what happened, but something was definitely there. This is somewhere in the skies with Ryan Sprague.

Let me talk about this thing that happened in 1973. It is one of the stranger UFO episodes I've ever lived through. For those of you who are familiar with Jersey, or this all started in Somerset, where I grew up. Very nice little town right next to Rutgers University, which is in New Brunswick, New Jersey. And that town has changed quite a bit, but that's a whole other topic. Anyway, my brother and my father myself were in, I believe it was Models. It was this mall. Not a mall.

It's a shopping center. I shouldn't say a mall. Shopping center that is on Easton Avenue. And if you know where the Somerset Diner is, and if you're standing there, and if you're standing, in front of the Somerset Diner, and you'll look across the street and to the left, there's a shopping center there that has a movie theater, and I believe it was, Maudels was there at the time. But in 1973, for the most part, that was undeveloped forest. There was nothing really there.

So we were coming out of the shopping center. My father was driving the car. I was sitting up front with him, and my brother was in the back seat. And so we're just coming out of the parking lot. I think it was JFK Boulevard or John F. Kennedy Boulevard, I think is the name of the road there on the side. Anyway, we're coming out of the shopping center and we notice that there is a disc that is rising from the trees. And when we noticed it, it was right above the tree line that seemed to be coming out of this forest. And it was a dark disk.

It was hard to tell at that moment what the size of it was. We'll get to that in a moment. It was taking off, basically. It was coming up from above the trees. And what I specifically noticed was that beneath this disk, there were some objects of some sort. They looked like kind of a box. And these stalks.

I remember three or four of these stalks of different lengths underneath of this disk, like attached to it, but coming down. I don't remember there being a dome on top or anything. I don't think there was. What we really noticed were these things hanging from below it. And, of course, the fact that there was a disc taking off from the forest. And we saw this and we got concerned. I mean, my father, I mean, we all saw this.

My brother, my father, and I all saw this thing. You know, my brother, my brother was very young. I was like 10 going on 11. My brother was, you know, seven going on eight. And here's my father with me and my brother in the car. And mom's at home. And so we see this thing coming up from above the trees. And my father takes the left turn on to JFK and just his driving.

and we didn't stop to look at this. Don't ask me why. I don't remember why. I think there was a level of concern at the time. But Dad took the left in his driving, and my brother and I are on, you know, obviously the passenger side. I'm on the passenger side of the car.

My brother's sitting right behind me. And we're looking out the window at this thing. And as we're driving, this thing is pacing us, still flying above the trees. It's essentially following us. It wasn't directly behind us. That happened when we took a left turn about a, I don't want to say a half mile down the road to get to our house, you'd have to take a left.

And we take this left, and now this thing comes across the trees, and now it's following us, very obviously following us and pacing us, keeping track with us. And my brother and I are getting, you know, sort of, I guess, excited as one word, a little freaked out as another word. My father is driving faster. I think my father was really surprised. I was kind of fascinated, and this is a thing that you have to sort of specify or qualify here. People like to think that if they're in a situation where they see a UFO, oh, I'm going to stop and I'm going to sit there and I'm going to look at it and I'm going to be totally calm and collected. That's just not the way this stuff plays out. And it's hard to describe to people who envision this going down a certain way.

But if you're in the middle of it, what you really realize when this happens is that these are profoundly, frightening things. You know, when you, when you see something that you have never seen before, and this was at a time, we have to, this is an important thing to qualify. At that time, this is 1973, the level of marketing penetration of the UFO mean was not at the level that it is today. Nowadays, people look at the images of the grays and, you know, there's little dolls and there's little toys and this has all been marketed.

and people have been conditioned in a way where maybe now people will be a little more open about it and maybe less frightened of it. But in 1973, this was certainly not the case. This was weird stuff. So we're driving along, and my father is indeed trying to maintain some semblance of normalcy

to whatever degree he could. My brother is having a bit of a meltdown in the backseat. He was excited, but not knowing what to make of it. And I can tell you that I was fascinated, but I was a little scared because there's this realization now that this thing is following us. So we're driving along. We're taking turns to get to my house and for anybody interested in specifics. We had a house on 27 Patton Drive.

You can look this up on the Internet. I'll certainly on Google Earth. We're a 27 Patton Drive. Really nice little neighborhood. Still is a nice neighborhood. Very squarely middle class, slightly upper middle class. But, you know, nothing pretentious. Anyway, so we're driving.

This thing, we're taking turns, multiple turns to get to the house. And this thing is taking the turns with us. It essentially was behind us off to the side. And it wasn't very high up in the air. I'm going to guess it was maybe 400 feet up, maybe 300 feet up. And what I remember is the stalks underneath of it, because that's kind of what I could see. I could see the outline of the disc. It was a dark disk.

It wasn't shiny metallic. It was darker. I couldn't tell if it was really shiny at all. even though it was dark, it seemed fairly mad. And, well, so this is the thing that's following us, and it's not going in front of us. It's kind of maintaining a certain distance. We take the turn on to Patton Drive,

and we go up to the house, and my father would always park in the driveway outside. Across the street from us, there was a family called the Ferris. And this plays into the story in a moment, because Mr. Ferris was out on the front lawn mowing his lawn. He had his little, you know, gas lawnmower going, and not the kind you sat in.

It was the kind, you actually... I don't say a manual lawnmower, but it was the kind, not the kind you drove by sitting on it. It was just one of those old, like, Toro-style lawnmowers that you moved around with your hands. And it was gas powered, obviously. So he was mowing the lawn. And we come up to the house, we pull into the driveway, and my father bolts out of the car and goes running in the house to get my mother. Leaving my brother in the back seat, who's now, as I remember crying, my brother was, like, not happy about this. that dad like bailed out of the car to go grab my mother.

But I get out of the car and I move away from the car, walking, you know, kind of moving back towards the street because at this point, the disc moves into position over our house and it is now hovering. I want to tell you maybe 200 feet, maybe 300 feet above our house. And it's silent and it's hanging in the air right above our house. and I remember I'm looking at this and I don't know what to think at this point I sort of was frozen in place

part of me desperately wanted to run the house and hide I remember that feeling very strongly but the other half of me was really fascinated by this because how often you get to see something like this and I'm looking up at it and I hear a sound come from behind me and what had happened was apparently Mr. Ferris turned saw this thing hanging above our house and he let go of his lawnmower. Just like let it go. And it kept going and it smacked into his

car that was parked in his driveway. And I heard this lawnmower hit in the car. I turn around and I see Mr. Ferris looking up at this thing and his mouth is hanging open. Now, who knows of Mr. Ferris is still alive? I'm guessing the man is probably not alive anymore. He was older than my father, older than my parents. I'd be curious to know. I don't think they had kids. I really honestly right now, I don't remember if they had kids, they weren't my age because I wasn't friendly with them. You know, when you're a kid at that, when you're like 10, 11 years old, you know, if you don't interact directly with people, they're not even on your radar, basically, so to speak. So, you know, essentially, I'd be curious to know if they're, if Mr. Ferris is still alive, have you ever heard this podcast or if he had kids that heard him tell his story?

Because I'm sure that he told people about this, and we'll get to that in a moment. Anyway, he saw this thing. He lets go of his lawnmower. It hits his car. He's like standing as long staring up at this. So I turned back around and it's still hovering above the house. And my father comes out with my mother and my mother runs to the car to get Barry. But she's looking up at this thing too. Again, you kind of couldn't help it. But she also heard Barry crying in the car and she ran to grab him.

And this is where things get really strange because I'm looking up at this thing. And to my right and from behind me, all of a sudden I hear this really loud sound. and it's a helicopter. This helicopter came out of, I guess, basically nowhere. This thing came screaming out of nowhere. I don't want to tell you it was a black helicopter. It was a dark helicopter with no markings. That much I can tell you.

It was a dark color. I don't remember seeing any numbers or anything on this thing. This helicopter comes screaming out of nowhere at a very low altitude. And it's making a B-line right for this disc. it comes right for the disc. I turn around, and this is something that really needs to be mentioned. What happened is this helicopter goes right for the UFO, right for this disc. And I'm watching this happen right in front of me.

I mean, it's just like with them. I'm saying maybe what, 30 feet away from my house, maybe 40 feet away from the house. This is, the disc is maybe a few hundred feet, maybe two, 300 feet above the house. This helicopter comes rushing out of nowhere, and it goes right for the disc. That disc went from being fully stopped to full velocity with no acceleration. This thing shot straight up and within maybe two seconds was completely gone. It made no sound doing it. And again, this is a really relevant point.

And this is where my brain, you know, when I think about this episode, this is the part that really stands out in my mind. This is the part that is as graphic as if it had happened yesterday. Because to see an object hovering, stationary, and then not gain acceleration and then go fast, but to see it simply go from stopped to full speed is something that your brain has no visual reference for. In fact, your brain tells you something is dramatically wrong. it's not something you've ever seen. You know, you see a jet airliner take off and you see it gain speed.

You watch, you know, imagine a car that was stopped and all of a sudden goes from zero to 60 in zero seconds. Your brain has no reference for it. Puff, straight up, and within two, maybe three seconds tops, it is completely gone. And now there's a helicopter hovering above our house. And in sharp contrast to the disc, the helicopter is very loud, real loud.

As loud as it was, maybe I want to tell you, and I can't be exact about this, maybe 10 seconds goes by, maybe it was 5 seconds, and we hear a loud speaker, and it was really loud because that helicopter was hanging right above the house and that was loud as hell. All of a sudden this voice comes out, go back in your home, as I remember it.

It might have been slightly different from that, but, you know, go in your home. Go back in your homes. And my mother grabs me. My mother's got my brother. And we all go in the house. And we are all highly traumatized. It's like, oh, my God, what just happened? And we heard the helicopter hung around for another few minutes.

We could hear it because it was right above the house. It moved around a little bit. And then we finally, after, I want to tell you, three or four minutes, it flew away. And it was gone. And we're just losing it. And I remember my father gets a little bit. on the phone and the first thing he does was to call the police. Call the police. What do he know? Who lives for something like this? You don't know what to do. You call the cops. So you call

the police and what I remember happening was that the police kind of laughed him off the phone. They're like, oh yeah, you saw what? Yes, sir. Maybe you should call someone else. My father, I remember my father getting off the phone very, very frustrated. He's like, they don't want to know. And he turned my mother, Faye. They're laughing at me. My mother said, well, call the newspaper. They'll want to know. So my father, as I remember, calls the local paper. We had, you know, like everybody else, we got the paper back, then everybody used to get the paper. This was a different time. So my father calls the local paper and tries to talk to them about it and they basically did pretty much the same thing, sort of laughed him off the phone.

You know, and I don't know, I have to believe someone else saw this thing. You know, this thing followed us for a good distance. It was flying over a fairly populated area. This is like one of the greatest parts of the mystery of it to me. Like, what was that helicopter? Was it really a helicopter? I mean, this is where things good, this is where the high weirdness factor comes in. I mean, was that helicopter a screen memory? I can't tell you. I mean, I don't think so. I remember the helicopter being really loud, being a very physical object. And again, the important part was the sound and the level of sound of that helicopter versus the complete lack of sound of the disc. Very noticeable, sharp contrasts. And then to see that disc move with the speed it did, to this day, I've never seen anything else like that in my

life. And that's why I have such a vivid memory of it because it shatters all perceptions of what is normal. It's just completely, there's no reference point for it. Anyway, so we're sitting there talking and we were kind of flipped out. And all of a sudden there's a knock on the door. And I remember that knock on the door, we all look at each other like, oh God, you know, what the hell is that? My father went to the door and he comes back into Mr. Ferris from across the street. I remember he came in and I hear him at the front door, Lou, what the hell was going on? because he came over to us and he wanted to know what was that thing. And he hung out with us for a while.

And then at some point his wife came over. But Mr. Ferris came over alone. And this was a crazy thing that went on. And we were talking in the kitchen. And my memory was that we were up fairly late that night talking about this. And there's another completely, well, not a separate element to us, but there's an important element to this, which is to mention that we had these next door neighbors. The Coalers. It was Betty, Jack, Teresa, and Steve Kohler.

Teresa and Steve were the kids. Teresa was kind of like my surrogate sister growing up. A lot of stories about her. And Jack Kohler was a very high-up executive at the Associated Press. Now, there's a really interesting political story tied to this. When Reagan took over the White House, when Reagan became president, Reagan's press secretary, this is my, and we found this out actually. After we moved away, Jack and my father were good buddies.

But Jack was tapped to go be the White House press secretary for the Reagan White House. And went and took that job until apparently it was discovered. And this was something even my mother didn't know. Now, Jack was German. My mother was a German national born in Berlin. And so her and Jack spoke German all the time to each other. And as part of the friendship that we had with them, they would practice Germanly each other. And what we found out years later, this is what happened.

This really crazy stuff, and I'll tie it back into this other story in a moment. So Jack goes to be the press secretary for the White House, and he was in that job. I think it was a little over a year until it's discovered. Somehow, someone figured out or came out that Jack had been a member of the Hitler youth growing up in Germany. And all of a sudden, he's gone from the White House. And in fact, Jack basically vanished. And I bring up Jack Kohler because my father got into the United States. touch with Jack. He said, Jack, you know, this thing happened. Jack basically said to him,

you don't want to pursue this, Lou. You don't want to do it. Because my father wanted to find out, like, why did the, you know, why had the police sort of joke him off the phone? They laughed him off the phone. Why did the newspaper not want to know about it? So I remember him talking to Jack Kohler about this and Jack said, Lou, you don't even want to pursue this. Don't even, I don't really want to talk about it. You don't want to pursue it. There was this real deep discomfort on Jack's part to even discuss this with my father. He didn't want to talk about it, which I found to be very curious. Anyway, I'm dying to know if there was anybody else who lived in Somerset in 73. And this would have been the time of year was summertime.

Because I remember that, you know, I remember we weren't wearing heavy clothes or anything. It was fairly warm out. So this would have been summertime. I'm dying to know if anybody who lived in Somerset in 1973 in that general area. And so if you think about the Somerset Diner and you think about Pat and Drive and how to get between those two places, anybody who lived in that area that would have been outside then would very likely have seen this. I was there. I don't know what the hell happened.

I don't know what this was. I don't. And I'll go on record saying, I have no explanation for this. I am just recounting an experience from my life. I don't proclaim to understand this even. And I don't. But I know what I saw. So, I mean, you know, my brother.

brother, and I didn't tell him I was going to talk about this on air. He doesn't know that I'm doing this right now. He and I've talked about this episode, though, in recent years. And he said he had a memory of this, but it wasn't as clear as mine, which stands to reason. He was younger. It was a different level of perception going on. But this is my first really big UFO experience. And it was a doozy, man. It was a heavy one. And there are some elements of it that really, as I said, remained with me. The speed, the one really big call-out thing was the speed that this thing moved away was straight up. And the fact that there was no sonic boom, the fact that there was no acceleration, if I had a guess, I would say that there were some clues that this episode gave me about what these things are to some extent in that if you're going to have a craft that's going to be able to move through air and not produce a sonic boom,

what that suggests to me is A, this thing might have been changing the density of the air in the trajectory path in which it was going to move. B, that when this thing actually moved, it was less than a completely material object. And again, I'm not claiming that this is an absolute. I'm just saying there's a clue there. I've lived through these things and I feel compelled to talk about them. And I'm not exactly even sure why. I think for no other reason to get them off my chest. It feels good to talk about this stuff.

Hey, Ryan, this is Luke in Michigan. I'm calling to tell you a UFO story that I have, that I just saw a couple nights ago, and I feel like I need to report it to someone. So you're the best, you're the best person I know for that. So my brother and I was Saturday night two nights ago, and we were having a bonfire in my friend. Now I live in a rural part of northern Michigan, sort of in a neighborhood that's out in the woods.

And we have a little shared access to a small lake. So my brother is a photographer, and he wanted to go take pictures of the stars. It was about 10.30 at night. So we went down to the shared access at our lake. And we walked over a little bridge, the creek, and we were standing on the small beach there, looking at the stars, and he had set up his camera on a tripod. and I said something like, well, it would be a good night to see a UFO. And my brother said, yeah, it would be, but we're not going to see one.

The only thing we were going to see is stars. And then literally like 10 seconds later, he said, but what about those stars? And he pointed to the northwest of us. And there were four, what looked like stars, that began moving away from each other. So they were like spreading out at a consistent rate, right? And they did that for maybe 10 to 15 seconds, and then they gradually faded out from view, which I don't know if they were, you know,

somehow disappearing or just getting too far away to see. But moments later, three lights came back in and moved from left to right, sort of at the same pace in a line and then faded out again. I guess left to right would have been south to north from where we were standing. And this sort of thing continued for at least half an hour, maybe 40 minutes. We stood there and watched these lights fade out, then fade back in, and then move. Usually left to right or south to north, but it can't.

Occasionally there would be, for example, two moving left to right and one would move right to left or towards the south. Occasionally they would move up and then fade out or down and then fade out. Occasionally they would all, there would be three or four that would fade in and then move in different directions for five to ten seconds and then fade out. And it was always at a consistent pace, right? Which made us think, you know, satellite, right? But the way they were moving was not a satellite because they were not moving across the sky. They were staying in one area of the sky and then fading in and out. And occasionally they would pause and stop, right, and then fade out or pause for a while and then move in a different direction.

They never went very fast and they never came toward us that I could see. Now, it's really hard to estimate distance because these were just points of light. There was no sound and, you know, it was really hard to tell how far away they were. It seemed like they were pretty far away. If they were far away, that was the direction of Lake Michigan. So, you know, our thought was potentially this is something that's happening out over the middle of Lake Michigan, if these are, you know, larger things that are far away. We also thought of planes, but clearly these weren't planes. We saw some planes that went across the sky at the same time,

and, you know, in the planes, you can see the blinking lights, you can see the red and green, and also they just go in a straight line across the sky, which is not what these were doing. So the other thought we had was some kind of, you know, helicopter search deep over Lake Michigan, and we looked into that. I checked with the Coast Guard. I didn't say, you know, the guy said he didn't know him anything. He'd get back to me and never got back to me.

I didn't see anything in the papers, which I looked. I suppose there could be something like that, but they would have been really far away because they were such small lights and there was no sound. So we watched these lights do this for, like I said, 30 or 40 minutes, and eventually we got cold because it was getting on towards midnight at that point and we wanted to go home.

And so my brother packed up his camera. Now, he does have photos of these and a video. It's not the greatest video, but he does have a really good camera and he got something. But, you know, it's far away in a really dark night. But I'd be happy to send that if anyone would be interested in that. And the crazy thing is we packed up to go home

while these were still going on. And then we have to walk across this bridge across a creek. and we paused on the bridge because he wanted to take one more picture of the stars, and we looked back and there was nothing going on. It was almost like it was doing it, you know, whatever these were, we were performing for us, and once we decided we were done watching, this phenomenon decided it was done performing. So, you know, could have been just a coincidence also,

but it was a little bit weird that, you know, they appeared when we said, we wish we could see a UFO, and then they, you know, faded out and didn't come back when we decided to go home. I'm not one of the, you know, I don't want to be one of these UFO guys that thinks, oh, immediately it's aliens, right? I am looking for a conventional explanation. Talk to my dad, who's kind of a science guy about it. He didn't have any explanation, but, you know, I'm open,

open to some sort of conventional explanation. That's actually what I'm looking for. But, yeah, other than that, I'd be happy to answer any questions people have or anything like that. But that's what happened. home. We didn't see anything else. The rest of the night. And that was it. All right. Thank you. Hey, everyone. Ryan Sprague here, host of Somewhere in the Skies. If you've ever thought about supporting us, we have great two easy options for you right now. If you listen to the show on

Apple Podcasts, you can click the subscribe button at the top of your Apple feed. Or you can join our Patreon at patreon.com slash somewhere skies. Both of these options, give you the same benefits, early access to the main show, bonus episodes, and content, and priority to ask our guests, your listener questions. So to help support Summer in the Skies, click that subscribe button on Apple or visit patreon.com slash somewhere skies. Thank you so much for your support and keep looking up. I'm going to tell you a really incredible story that I have first-end information on. The story begins at lowering Air Force Base and Northern Maine near Limestone back in 1975. The 42nd bomb wing consisted of two airy

fielding squadrons and a bomber squadron. The bomber's mission was to support emergency war orders armed with nuclear weapons. I'd like like to give you some background about the UFOs over lowering before you get into the details of the formation flight. A couple of weeks or maybe even as few as a couple of days before this particular formation flight, a meeting was called by the 42nd bomb wing. For all the flight crews for all three of the flying squadrons to be held at the alert facility. So this was unusual. It was first time that it happened for me and all the time that I had been there, so I was kind of curious as to what this is going to be about. So at the beginning of the meeting, a uniformed

major says, listen, if you don't have a security clearance of at least secret, you need to leave. There was only a couple of people that got up out of the couple hundred people that were there. The major started off by saying, if you haven't heard, there has been a UFO reported over the base, over the nuclear-armed B-52s that are on alert over the nuclear weapons storage facilities that had nuclear weapons stored at them at this time. So it was very, very serious situation, and that's what this meeting was all about. It's hovering without making any sound. It does have a few lights.

It moves erratically. It can move very quickly, unconventionally. Rapid straight line movements, straight vertical movements can turn without any apparent radius in the turn. So it's a pretty incredible technology. The wing staff was pretty concerned about it, so they had notified SAC headquarters. and we were told

don't talk to anybody about it if you have one of these incidents you can talk to us and we'll be debriefing but outside of this screen don't talk about it and we're also concerned that the local press

is going to get a wind of all the extra ground forces and the fighters that we're bringing in to help us deal with this issue so we're going to tell them that there's a Canadian helicopter crossing the border

and harassing us So I think that's pretty incredible. But that's the background for the story that I'm going to tell you. We had departed lowering earlier in the day. It was a nighttime refueling mission. There were three KC-135s in this formation. I was the aircraft commander on the number two aircraft in this three airplane formation. Tankers' formation were referred to as cell.

flights. There was a lot of vertical separation, a lot of horizontal separation, and there was none of this. We're right flying like the fighters do like this kind of stuff. Now we were way vertically clear, I think,

a thousand feet and I don't know, half mile maybe, you know, so it was very much fun. It was just kind of boring actually to be in a formation flight and a tanker. However, the mission was pretty routine.

I don't remember. It was unremarkable in almost every way until we started back. And that's where the fun begins. That's where the action happens. So we are coming back from a refueling mission somewhere

south of New York, offshore a little ways. I believe it was with the F4 Phantoms. Just a routine training mission for both the Phantoms and for us. So as we are somewhere close, I think somewhere between Bangor and Portland, northbound coming back to Loring Air Force Base.

The command post at Loring contacted us, which was not routine, but not completely out of the ordinary. but when they asked the aircraft commander of the cell leader, the aircraft commander of the number one tanker, to change radio frequencies to stand by, they had an important radio call that they wanted to talk to him about. That was pretty unusual. So it didn't take me along to say,

hey, you know, I'm going to take one of my spare radios and go with them to see what this guy is going to get briefed on. So I tuned in. number three tanker probably had the same curiosity he did the same thing I'm sure and we're listening to the command post telling the cell formation leader listen the UFO

is over the base again right now and we want you to pass off the leadership of the formation of the cell flight to the number two aircraft and then we want you, number one aircraft, to turn your lights out, turn your radios off,

and head straight to the base at your own discretion, altitude, airspeed, path, whatever, at your own discretion, which is unusual, very unusual to hear that. Incredible, as a matter of fact. So I was quite shocked, so the cell leader acknowledged instances. will do. So the next thing you know, I'm getting a call from him. He's contacted me and said, listen, I just got special orders. I have to depart the formation. You're going to take over leadership of the cell, let the navigators coordinate our positions when you're ready. You got it. So

the navs did that. I was convinced that we were where they said we were. I could see some of the city, so I knew we were close. So I trusted the NAF. And off we off we went to the initial approach fix and the aircraft commander of the number one tanker turns his lights off don't hear any more communication so he's now

radio silent and in the moonlight I can see his silhouette and down he descended into the darkness heading straight for Loring Air Force Base. I would love to have traded places with him. So number two now the old number three and number two and I started

head to the initial approach fix, which is quite always south of the south end of runway 36. Runway 36 lands to the north. So going straight to the base is a lot faster and everything is everything unfolds with that aircraft as he approaches the base well before I make it through the initial approach fix. I start hearing a tower channel frequency communications that are really exciting. I've heard some combat radio discussions during some bomb strikes with the F4. So, you know, I can recognize a little stress in the voices, and that was definitely stress in these voices. I wouldn't call it panicked, but it was bordering on frantic as they're talking about.

did you say it where is it now which way did it go oh my god there it goes and it's down on this end of the runway it's over the over east loring no it's back over the

alert bombers and that kind of communication back and forth quite a few different people talking on the tower frequency I don't believe I could hear the tankers

crew members chiming in I'm not sure I would have recognized them. Maybe I would have. I do know that when the tankers at elevation with Casey-135 is at elevation, the radar, forward-looking radar is like 240-mile range. I'm not sure what it is. It's substantially reduced at ground level, and they were flying in really, really low, I believe.

So the fact that they lost radar contact with the UFO in almost an end. instant is remarkable in itself. And then they said, I did hear the communications say something to the effect of we've lost it. And then as quickly as communications had started until our frequency, they ended. So that was kind of the end of the excitement. And my wingman and I continued our normal approach. it's wrong way 3-6. We broke up the formation

just after we hit the initial approach fix. So I landed a couple minutes later. The second airplane landed and taxied in. It is in the middle of the night. There's not a lot of action going on at the base that we can see.

And we proceeded to our squadron normal debriefing room. Had a couple of beers. filled out some paperwork, and we're dying to talk to somebody that knew anything about what had just happened out on the base. Couldn't find anybody that either knew it or dared talk about it. So that was kind of the end of that night. The tanker that had departed the formation and got off the chase that UFO was absent from the briefing room. we got there and then all of a sudden I remembered that

well he must be debriefing the major the same major that gave that meeting that I talked about earlier in this clip however the end of the story gets even a little bit more bizarre because I see the aircraft commander of the first tanker I'm not going to say his name I've almost slipped a couple of times to say his name but I don't I don't have permission to get him involved in my UFO story so I'm not going to say his name. I see him walking along in front of the base exchange, the BX over at Lorin.

Just a couple of days after the flight, I believe. So I pulled my truck over and got out and went running over to him and said, what in the hell happened the night with that UFO? And he looks at me and he goes, I can't talk about it. I can't talk about it. You wouldn't believe me if I could talk about it. So that's the end of the story. And as incredible as it is, that's as true as I can remember.

It's been a long time ago, but I had a lot of experience at the time of that incident, and I've had a lot of experience in the cockpits after that experience, but I've never had anything as incredible as that happened. Hope you enjoyed that story. I enjoyed telling it. I'm UFO researcher Christina Gomez from the strange and unexplained podcast, and you're now listening to Somewhere in the Skies. This is Somewhere in the Skies with Ryan Sprague.

Hi, Ryan. This is Alan Whitehead, former drummer with a pop group called Marmalade. I was with the group from 1967 until 1978. The rest of the group were Scottish-Aucous. except for me, which explains why most nights it would be me driving, because they like to drink. Anyway, we're coming back from a gig. It was around about mid-November in 1978, and we just passed Cambridge and we're on the A-1,

which is one of the main road next, like the M-1, but it's the A-1, heading back to where we live, which was North London. and as I was driving, one of the things, I'd always had an active interest in uphology and science fiction. So I always kept an eye out when I was driving, partly because it helped keep you awake. And I was always watching for something may be unusual. And for all the years that I drove, and this was the first time that something happened that I couldn't explain. So I'm driving along

And then I was looking I looked to the left And it was like the headlight of a car A very bright It seemed sort of circular But I couldn't distinguish What actual shape it was All it was was a very bright light

And it was moving Very erratically It was moving up Then it would drop down then it would move to the right, then it would move to the left. And I watched it for about a minute. And then I thought, what the hell is that? So I woke the rest of the three guys with me.

The other guys with me were Graham Knight, the bass player, like me, an original member, and a guy called Sandy Newman and Charlie Smith. So I woke them up and said, what do you think that, see that light over there? What do you think that is? Graham said, oh, maybe it's a helicopter. And I said, well, I can't hear any sound.

And it's unlikely that a helicopter, generally speaking, apparently helicopters don't fly at night for, I assume, for safety reasons. So anyway, we're all watching this light. And then I have to assume that it must have been aware of us because, the light suddenly shot across from, I can't say how far it was away from the A1, but within a few seconds it came to a point literally right in front of us on the A1. So I stopped the car and we could see it through the windscreen. we all of us got out and we stood underneath this i would reckon it was about 50 maybe 70 feet in diameter and it was maybe 300 foot above us so the four of us was stood on the a one

looking up at this it was very luminous difficult difficult to see any distinguishing marks and it was just a huge luminous disc the only way I can describe it and it was completely silent so again Graham looked at me and he said

can you see this and I went well of course I can see it and he said well do you think it's a helicopter and I said Graham listen It's silent. If it was a helicopter, we'd hear the rotary blaze.

It's silent. So we stood underneath it for about a minute. And it just hovered there. It was very sort of surreal, really. And then for no reason that I can explain, it suddenly shot off. And it hit the horizon. in about five seconds, from your point of vision to the horizon is 25 miles, apparently.

Anyway, I noticed that as it moved off, there was slight like a, it wasn't actually lights, but it was like a discharge of some kind. It was slightly green and slightly orange around the circumference. and it hit the horizon in five seconds with no sound and we just stood there all of us thinking what the hell have we seen none of us could really explain it but we all saw exactly the same thing luminous tests 50 maybe 75 foot in diameter that hovered silently above us

whatever it was, it was certainly no helicopter, no aircraft, nothing that I had come or seen before in my life. And it was the same for the others. And when I got home, my fiancé became my wife. And I was so excited. And the next day, rang the press, because I talked, you know, with a successful group. that they might be interested but nobody was really interested but the memory of it is as vivid now

as it was when it happened and there's the fact that it's collaborated by three other people who all saw exactly what I saw and to this day that's the only experience I've had of something if you like that I can't explain in the rest of my life looking.

I never saw anything else like this. And the memory of it is as vivid as it was because after all those years watching the skies, it was almost like my wish was fulfilled. And I actually saw something, if you like, if it came from outer space, who knows, but I know what I saw, and it certainly didn't fall into any category of something that I could explain in a conventional way. And that's my story. Thank you for listening. Hey, Ryan, via letter here from Melbourne, Australia.

I thought I would tell you about my experience that I had only last week. it was one of those moments where I want to say that it was incredibly surreal and incredibly humbling all at the same time. I was driving home from dropping my daughter off at her grandmas and it was a clear day because we're just approaching summer here in Melbourne now. So it would have been probably 11 in the morning, beautiful blue sky, not a cloud, in sight and a very gentle breeze. So there wasn't really much notable going on, just a typical morning. As I was approaching these traffic lights, which usually are a huge pain and they always stopped cars for a really long time, I already started sort of drifting away,

letting my attention slip from the road because I knew I'd be there for a while. Then something did catch my eye that wasn't extremely normal, which I never see here. It was an object. It was egg-shaped. And I remember really distinctly because I immediately went to the thought of every UFO story I've ever heard. It's a cigar shape or it's completely round or it's a disc, as we typically know. But this was a very obvious egg. And when I say obvious, I was looking at it from about 100 metres away.

and it would have been about the same height. So it wasn't high enough to be completely obscured in terms of the shape or the style, but it was far away enough that I couldn't make out if there were obviously any doors, openings, rivets, or any kinds of joints. So the shape itself was very smooth, very round at the bottom with the egg-shaped tip on top. and it was solid as far as I could tell there weren't any kind of depressions in it. It didn't look like it was transparent in any way, shape or form, and it was just gliding very slowly from the left to the right. And remember I mentioned, there was a very gentle breeze,

so I immediately thought it might have been a balloon, but even with a gentle breeze, a balloon would have looked a little bit more erratic than this did, and this had a very clear line of travel. It was like I was saying, was going from left to right, and I watched it for a good 20 to 30 seconds as I was waiting at these pesky traffic lights. And towards the end, as the object neared my, like the end of my line of vision, it started to get smaller and smaller until it blinked out. So my mind immediately began to process, could this have been a drone? Potentially, yes, because of the way that it was moving, very direct in terms of its flight and direction. However, there was, I mean, I've never seen a drone that has this kind of get up on it, but I guess

somebody could have done it to be pranking everyone. I haven't read anything about it. I do follow a few pages here in Australia and in Melbourne specifically about these kinds of sightings and nothing was mentioned. And then I went to debunking thought process of whether it was a balloon, but again, that erratic movement, that balloons generally do when it is even a very gentle, breezy day, there was no erratic movements, it was very direct in its flight path. And then naturally, the getting smaller and then blinking out, I've never seen anything like that and I've never heard of anything like that that's natural or that we know of. So that was another thing that I couldn't debunk as well. And then just the fact that it was such a very obvious egg shape and very

smooth in its appearance and very solid. That again told me that it probably wasn't any of those three things that I thought it was initially. And once it blinked out and the lights went green and I started driving. I had a good five minutes before I reached home to think about it. And I immediately reached out to my sister and told her all about it as well because she's a really avid supporter and follower of your show too. And both of us tried to debunk it and discuss it. And I've subsequently gone back to the location to see if it could have been anything else, if it could have been a balloon or a decoration that was released from one of the stores. because there are a few grand openings.

But again, there's really nothing that I could think of that would glide with such purpose and direction and then also reduce in size and then blink out eventually. So I'm at a complete loss. And like I said at the start of this message to you, it was a feeling of surrealism, but awe and wander as well. And I feel quite humbled that I got to witness something like this.

It's not my first UFO siding or UAP, but it's definitely the first as an adult that I can remember and recall so vividly and the feelings associated with. So, yeah, I'm really humbled. I got to have that experience and I'd love to know if anyone else has seen anything or heard of anything like it. If not, I'm glad it's a first. It's a first for me. Love your show and thank you so much for being the champion of UFO supporters and experiences. Have a good day. My name is Bob Burke.

I want to tell you a story about my UFO sighting. And I'm going to tell you this story because there seems to be a link between the phenomenon and who sees it. And this is sort of being told in the story of war, Tom DeLong and Peter Levenda. I'm in the midst of reading their book right now. But that's one of the points they're making is very seriously the idea that those who were initially involved in the Roswell crash in 1947 had not only a synchronous pattern leading them up to it, but after it. And this UFO sighting is really kind of different than I've heard anyone else

talk about. And I wasn't the only one who saw it, so it's not that it's uncorroborated. But at the time that it happened, it was probably fall of 2016. I'm almost certain of the timing. I think I, I want to say it was probably mid or early October. It was cold out. And it was about 9.39, 4,000. at night, and I was living east of Hudson, Wisconsin, along Interstate 94 in a townhome. And my side of the townhome faced directly east, you know, directly east. And so at about 93940, my dog wanted to go out, which is just normal what happens. And so I go to the door, and as I look out the glass of the door, and as I'm opening it, I see up in the clouds, there's this, there's this light in the trees that's moving across the trees.

Now, at this point, I'd been there for about a year, and I knew just from experience, even from flying, that the planes came in for the airport at Minneapolis, St. Paul, often when they used the route, straight along I-94. So me looking out the window, it was common to see a plane coming in this direction, a white light anyway, even if you couldn't hear it, but this one was going in this direction. This light was, you know, was going across, which really caught my eye. and so I let the dog out and I walked down the walk to see if, because this thing was moving through the tree, so I walked down the walk and I got around the end. And as I get around the end, there's a giant obelisk floating in the sky, slowly, quietly, floating across the sky. And there's a second one at the end of my driveway flying directly over the center of the neighborhood. And just as I'm seeing these two things coming across, my daughters come home.

And so they had been in marching band at the time, in marching band practice had gotten over, and they were just arriving home. And they got out and literally said, Papa, is this that UFO thing? And I'm like, yes, this is that UFO thing. So it wasn't just an obelisk like you might see a stone obelisk, but rather it was the shape of an obelisk against a very, dark sky. Against the very dark sky.

And that dark sky, come on. And that dark sky in front of it was this giant obelisk. At the very top, there's two lights. I'm trying to remember if there was a red one on top or the red one was on bottom. I believe the red was on bottom. And

there was a red one and a white one. Maybe the white one was on bottom. That's what I saw first. And that white light above it had a V. You could see the silhouetted outsides, and then you could see the line connecting it where that triangle ended, and then you could see these very light silhouetted lines that went up the top and made up the top of, well, as I said, at the top of one of these objects, just floating there.

And as best I could tell, there were other similar lights like them in other places. And so, you know, my daughter stayed out for a couple of minutes, and then they went in, and I stayed out for about 20 because at that point, they'd kind of gone off into the distance. They'd become a light that I could still see, but I couldn't really tell what it was. And so for about 20 minutes, and I was quite cold, and I wasn't wearing shoes, I decided to head in. I reported it to Mufon. And I don't recall how long or how much later the call came in, but I got a call, and they left a message, and it was a woman. And I believe she said she was from Minnesota Mufon.

And she left the most odd message. She said, Mr. Burke, we got your report. and what you've reported is what we generally call a UFO disc. I'm like, I reported a freaking obelist. I did not report a disc. I have no idea what you're talking about. Clearly, you don't mean to get a hold of me, and so I just didn't respond to the email,

or to the voicemail. Well, a couple of weeks later, it might have been a few months even, I don't recall for sure, I got a call from an elderly gentleman, got me what his name was. But he took the full report of what happened, and I did upload a video and some pictures to it,

but you really can't see much because, again, it was just these very light silhouetted lines against a very dark sky that it itself looked almost translucent against. Yeah. And so that was my UFO sighting. And I don't have any other really unique UFO sightings. I saw an orb one time fly over my house, two of them, which was odd,

but that was back in like 2012 or 2014. And so UFOs are really unique. They're telling us something. We just have to try and figure out what. Thank you and peace out, everybody. This is a story of not told many people, mainly because it sounds crazy, but it's my truth.

I was on the way from Philippines for the second time, coming home on an airliner, and we're very high up in the sky, incredibly high, above the cloud. and everything was peaceful quiet for a time. Then there was an announcement over the Tannoy. The pilot came over the Tannoy announcing that all the air hostesses should walk down the aisles closing the window blinds on the aircraft

because it were due to fray through turbulence. Now I know a little about flying. I've flown a lot before. It didn't make any sense to me because flying through turbulence, closing the shutters, would not have any effect on the turbulence at all, would still feel it. So the air hostesses hadn't reached my seat yet, and I half-closed mine. And I saw something pass under the aircraft. it was traveling really, really fast. It was traveling so fast I didn't see any flight surfaces, wings, anything.

And it flew away from the aircraft. Imagine the aircraft was flying from south to north, in a straight line, and this thing flew under the airplane from west to east. directly under the airplane. And it left behind it what looked to me like a contrail. It's perfectly round, and if you looked down into the centre of it,

this contrail, it was just like a kind of moiling smoke, which I guess from the ground could be mistaken for a contrail. The thing flew away from the aeroplane, and vanished over the horizon and the aircraft flew on. Then the pilot came over the intercom again to say that the hostesses could open the shutters because the turbulence was passed. But the problem that struck me was there was no turbulence, nothing. No shaking of the airplane, no noise, nothing.

this thing flying away underneath the aircraft. I think that if that thing would have been maybe 200 feet, 150, 200 feet up, it would have gone straight through the airplane. Now, I think that the pilot chose to have the shutters closed on the airplane for two reasons. One, because he didn't want people on the right-hand side of the aeroplane to see it coming, and two, because he didn't want people on the right-hand side, the people on the left, to see it coming,

the people on the right to see it going, and how close it was beneath the aircraft. Now, I want to put out an appeal here. did was anyone else on that flight anyone in the world on that flight from the Philippines in the early 80s late 90s around about that time

and were told to close the shutters by the pilot and the air hostesses came along up the aisle to close your shutters did you see something coming or did you see something going? I'm not saying it's a flying saucer. I don't know what it was.

All I know it was something very, very, very strange that the pilot and the co-pilot didn't want you to see. Are there any other passengers out there who've been told to close their shutters because of turbulence or some of the reason. Thank you for listening. Hi, Ryan and everyone at our incredible group at Somewhere in the Skies. This is Suzanne, your moderator,

and this is my UFO experience. It happened when I was six or seven years old, which was maybe 1966 or 67, in a tiny town in Arkansas, not too far from Little Rock. My grandmothers lived about two blocks zigzagged from each other, and they would typically walk me to one corner and let me run to the other grandmother on the other corner. But one day they let me know that they thought that I was mature enough for me just to go on my own as long as the other grandmother knew where I was.

I was a really responsible kid, and this was a big deal for me. I was really proud of this new responsibility. So one sunny summer morning at about 10, I left one grandmother's house for the other grandmother's house. And just as I was about to make my first turn, there was suddenly a deafening chest rattling roar overhead. And at the same time, I saw an enormous object, literally city blocks long, flying directly overhead, very close to the ground. And you can imagine that it terrified me. I watched shaking, thinking this was a plane that was crashing. And at this young age, I'd never seen underneath a plane.

close up. So the fact that it was covered in multicolored lights meant literally nothing to me. Neither did I have any reference at all for something like a UFO or an alien. So I stood there frozen in fear until I crouched to the ground and covered my ears. The sound was literally shaking my little body. And then I finally got my courage up and stood up, still watching this thing move slowly. But literally, nothing happened. No car stopped. No pedestrians paused.

No one else seemed to notice anything at all. Not even me, a terrified little girl, standing there on the corner, watching this. And there was no explosion, so I knew something was different about it that this was not a crashing plane. So, shaking head to toe, I finally uncovered my ears

and raced back to the grandmother I'd just left, trying to calm myself before I got there because I was afraid that if I came bursting into the house and told this story that they might decide that I really wasn't mature enough to have this newly found privilege. But my grandmother was the county health nurse and I knew that she needed to go help. And if this was a crashing plane, which is what I thought it might be, then she needed to get in her car and go. So I told her and I begged her to come outside and she hadn't heard anything and she didn't see anything. She didn't feel anything. And it just didn't make any sense to me because it was so big and so loud and so close that it literally rattled my tiny body.

And for years, I frequently returned to the memory of it, trying to make sense of it. In the 90s, I considered maybe a UFO being the answer. when I first read about them, but I quickly discounted that idea because the people who were talking about their experiences at that time recorded silence, and mine was so loud. Then, later on, once the Internet was out, I would search for plane crashes in Central Arkansas and 67, all to no avail. I just didn't understand what had it happened. Had I not understood what I was seeing. Nobody else seemed to see it. Was it just too little? I didn't know. But last year, while vacationing in Scotland, I picked up Whitley Streber's latest book, and it

involved a bunch of witness encounters. And the first two stories in that book were from about the same time frame as mine, and also involved really loud noises. And it was only then that I realized that there really was a possible understandable explanation for what had happened to me, but that it might not be a comfortable one. However, I was able to finally lay down the query about what it was. I'm quite confident that what I saw was not of human origin. I can't tell you what it was, but it was definitely real, and it was physical.

It produced physical reactions in a small child. And I finally, by virtue of reading about this in Mr. Streber's book, got the courage to tell my family about what had happened to me and so grateful for how encouraging and supportive they were because I know not everybody gets that. So for those like you and Mr. Streber, who are determined to tell the witness stories and put down the data in a non-judgmental way,

I want you to know how important I think that work is because every time you tell a person's story, you're handing another person a gift, and that gift is to be able to make sense of what happened to them. So thank you for doing it. I appreciate it. Something I'll talk with you today about is something I've not really discussed before, but I've just popped back into my consciousness in the last couple of weeks

and these are two experiences of UFOs and identify flying objects or as the modern term is called an identified aerial phenomena. I'm fascinated by UFOs. I don't speculate. I don't go on about are they little green men from outer space? You don't know. That's why they're unidentified.

But all I can say is what I saw or what I can relate to. My two UFO experiences. Okay. So the first experience was back in 2008. We did a radio show down in Portsmouth with KeyFM, I think it was on KeyFM, called Tuning In, which was presented by Paul Alland. Great guy. And he sort of led the show.

It was his show. We had Medium Paul Sissle, and I came on as a paranormal advisor, investigator, whatever. and Norrie Miles was also there as well, my girlfriend Norrie. Now, on this particular day, we were about to interview Nick Pope, formerly of the Ministry of Defence, who's big into researching UFO sightings. So it seemed a bit ironic that I happened to be outside, having a cigarette, when I smoked, and I just happened to be casually looking.

Now, bear in mind it's about 8 o'clock in the evening, and I looked up in the sky, just casually, and saw five very high-speed blue lights, like going really fast across the skyline. And as they sort of went overhead of me, they sort of split and went apart. It's very hard to get sort of depth of field when you're looking up in the sky,

but it did seem really, really high up, this phenomena. Now, it could be military aircraft. I don't think it was. I still have no explanation for that. My problem was, after seeing this aerial phenomena, unidentified aerial phenomena, I could then not go back in and start talking about it to Nick Pope. It just seemed too obvious that I'd just seen a UFO,

and then wasn't going to talk about UFOs. I think I did mention, I can't actually remember it, but I think I did mention it, but it just seemed too obvious. Still got no explanation for that. Yeah, five very blue lights, very high in the sky, going high speed, so it didn't last that long. I think they were probably higher than 35,000 feet, but that's just a speculation.

And it still baffles me to this day what that was. Yeah, if anyone's had any similar things to that, that would be good to know. But yeah, five blue lights, but as they passed overhead, they split apart. Still in formation, still in formation, but split apart, and we're gone. Case number two, I was in my garden having a cup of tea.

It was night time, but about the same time, about 8 o'clock. And it's amazing how things just catch your eye. I looked up in the sky and just saw this white ball of light. Once again, you can't tell how far it was away, just hovering and shimmering in the sky. And I'll just captivate about it. This white, shimmering light. And I thought, it wasn't an aircraft,

because there was no sound. it wasn't a helicopter or anything like that. And as I say, I couldn't tell how far it was away. And it's to live for about... Or floating for about five minutes. I think it was about five minutes. This is about 2010, 2011, roughly. I can't remember exactly.

And I was just perplexed. I was just staring at this white ball of light as it shimmered. And after the five minutes, this is the part that really shot me. It zipped out of shock. It's really, really fast. No build-up, just...

gone. And disappeared. I find that one even more intriguing. So, a sort of glimmering white light, and then... Out of sight. I mean, a lot of people see these UAPs quite a lot now. I'm fascinated by it. I don't speculate, because I have no information,

I don't like speculating too much. Well, I do it a little bit. But I don't go down the alien route. It could very well be something beyond our consciousness. because they're seen quite often Obviously the US and British military are starting to release unclassified documents

of UFO sightings and especially when you've got military people coming forward as well as speaking about it so yeah I don't know what they were they intrigued me so this day I'm always looking up in the sky see if I can see something else but thank you for just indulging me on that

so I've never really spoken about it before for no particular reason just haven't and you know if we if i'm in a conversation about uh UFOs or uh uapes then it will come out but generally i haven't spoken about it because i haven't rethought about it for years so yeah there you go interesting have you enjoyed that thanks very much take care hey right this is dave from omah nebraska and hello to all the somewhere in the skies listening from across the world thanks for giving me a chance to share my story.

So this experience happened in May 19th, on May 19th of 2024. I was in Council Bluffs, Iowa. And just to give everybody a little bit of background, so in the Omaha metro area, there's about just over a million people that live here. Council Bluffs is considered to be part of the Omaha Metro area. I grew up in this area in a town called Bellevue, Nebraska, and Bellevue is home to Offutt Air Force Base. It's historically known for Strategic Air Command.

It's currently called Stratcom, but SAC's mission, known mission, when I was growing up, was basically control of our United States nuclear arsenal. and so it's a very important base and growing up in Bellevue used to planes flying overhead pretty much all day every day and so I'm very familiar with what aircraft look like sound like how they move in the air and kind of the general flight paths in the area The Bellevue is where off it is, it is on the south end, southeast end of the Omaha metro area. Council Bluffs would be across the Missouri River. The Missouri River separates Nebraska and Iowa. Council Bluffs is just across the river. So on the east side of the metro area, and then there's another airfield, a regional airport, called Epley Airfield,

on the northeast side of the metro area. And so, and again, so this incident took place in Council Bluffs, Iowa. I was leaving a memorial service for someone that reported to me at my job at that time. I was in middle management for a large insurance company in Omaha. There's a couple of them in town. I'm not going to name names, but I'm sure process of elimination you probably figure out which one it is. I have family that still work there, family and friends that still work there, so I'm not going to necessarily name names. But anyway, like I said, I was leaving Memorial Service for this person that reported to me that had recently lost their fight with cancer.

And so it was a very emotional day. For me, obviously, you know, as emotional as, you know, her family and their children and their spouse. But, you know, it was emotional for me because, you know, I had worked with this person for about a year, just under a year at that point. And for the previous couple months while they were battling cancer, I had been working with, my direct manager and with our HR team to talk about next steps and they were looking to terminate the person's employment before they passed away because their leave benefits were were expiring and that was something that I did not agree with there's more circumstances behind that and obviously a different perspective for on the company's side but I be in

really disagree with how they were going about that and I you know struggled with trying to be a good person and match my values to you know how I was making a living and whether it was a very very turbulent time for me personally but I want to describe my mind state as I was leaving the service just because you know I'm listening to your show Ryan and reading up on some other cases there seems to be some correlation between heightened emotional states, crisis events, what have you, in some certain types of science. So I'm not sure if that ties in here, but it's, it happened. I was very emotional in, you know, heightened emotional state that day.

And I saw something that I couldn't explain. So I was leaving the service and heading back to my home. I live pretty much in the middle of the city of Omaha. Council Bluffs is to the east, so I'm driving west to get back to Omaha and get home. So I'm pretty familiar with Council Bluffs. Growing up here, you know, Council Bluffs has kind of a reputation around town for some spooky things that go on or have gone on over there in the past. And so, you know, during Halloween season, you know, as a teenager, we would, me and my friends would go over to this parking council bluffs that was supposedly haunted and has a statue called Angeladette. We take her girlfriends over there and try to scare them and do other things that teenagers do and whatnot.

So I thought I was familiar enough with the council bluffs that I could make my way back home, the interstate without having to use navigation. So I leave the funeral driving around for a couple of minutes and I wouldn't say I'm lost but I'm meandering my way back home and I lose patience at a certain point inside to punch home back into my navigation. And so navigation takes me to an intersection and this will come back up later, but the intersection was 25th and Nash in Council Bluffs to merge onto I-29 South to get back either to Interstate 480 or Interstate 80 so I can get back home to Omaha. So as I'm merging onto the interstate, first let me set the stage a little bit more.

So spring in the Midwest, so it was like, you know, average temperature, I want to say it was in the 70s. really nice outside. It was cloudy overcast, but I don't think it rained that day. So the clouds weren't like thick storm clouds, but you know, it was cloudy enough to where, you know, the sun wasn't always out, but, you know, the sun would peak every once in a while. It was a thin layer of clouds as the plows. So as I'm verging on to the inner street, I'm looking over my left to each train, my left shoulder and out my, my, my, driver's side, my front driver's side window to try to make sure there's no on-coming traffic and it saves the merge. And as I look out the driver's side window, I notice in the top corner

that it just looks like, I don't know how else to describe it, but just like a ball of rust floating in the air. And there's no one else in the car with me. I went to the service by myself and came home by myself, but I remember saying out loud, what the F is that? That's sure. shouldn't be there because it shouldn't be there. It was, I don't, I can't say exactly how big it was, but I know it was bigger than like a birthday balloon, but like smaller than a hot air balloon. And it was just kind of sitting there floating in the air. Wasn't moving or anything like that. There's not any like telephone poles or utility poles where I was that. That would have been at that height where, you know, sometimes utility poles or power cables have

those balls attached to them or whatever to keep, I think it's to keep the cable straight. There was nothing like that to the left where I was looking. And so I knew that's an object. That's something in the air that definitely shouldn't be there. Why is it there? I had to say this at the time that these are all the thoughts that I had after the fact. And, you know, Epley Airfield, that is, you know, it's not an international airport, it's currently being converted to an international airport, but it's a decent-sized regional airport. And this object would have been right in the flight path of planes approaching the land at the airport.

And off an Air Force base, so there's a key defense function is 10, 15 minutes down the road south. so and they definitely don't want anything in the air that shouldn't be there that could just potentially be a threat or disrupt you know the air traffic or whatever you know planes may be coming in the land at the base or on missions or whatever so it just kind of blew my mind And I was like, well, this doesn't make sense. Why is this thing just sitting floating in the air? I'd estimate maybe it was, I'm not sure if I said this already, but I think it was about as high as what, like a cell phone tower would be at the top.

So maybe 200, 300, 300 feet off the ground. And I couldn't have been there for more than five seconds, or at least when I noticed it first. It couldn't have been more than five or, 10 seconds before, you know, the thing just disappeared, vanished, disintegrated, whatever you want to call it. One second it was there, another second it wasn't. And like I wanted to describe the clouds that day because, you know, the clouds weren't thick enough to where, you know, if something just kind of floated behind them, you wouldn't be able to see it. And just kind of floated behind the

clouds, I would have still been able to see like some sort of shadow behind this thin layer of clouds that day. And there was no puncture hole in the cloud, so it clearly didn't rapidly rise up in the air. It didn't speed off in the distance. All of a sudden, it was just there one second, and then the next second it was. And it was just very weird. So it was about a 20-minute drive back home. I'm, you know, trying to figure out what just happened, you know, I dump out it, right? And get home, let my dog out, try to gather my thoughts. I text a friend of mine to let him know, you know, what just happened. He's also kind of interested in the topic.

I tell him I either add a really vivid eye friend. floater or I saw something in the sky that you know I can't can't explain and um you replied back do you usually have eye floaters? I'm like no I don't be like well there's your answer and so yeah I just just strange and something weird that I can't explain and I saw um and so um some time goes by um I still think about it but it's not like I'm obsessed very anything like that, losing sleep or anything like that. And we get to Christmas morning. I've been watching this documentary.

I watch it on my Apple TV app, but I think it's, it actually comes on like MGM Plus or Amazon plus some subscription that I've got a trial for that's included in whatever, plan I have or whatever. But the documentary is called Beyond UFO, and this was with episode three, Gary Nolan was describing a case that he was tasked to investigate because there was an object that crashed in this park, Big Lake Park, in Council Bluffs, Iowa in 1977, and he was tasked with looking into the metallurgy of,

some material that they recovered from this craft cycle. I was like, whoa, I had never heard of this incident before. And what also struck me was the way, and it might be an innocent mistake, but Gary Nolan is a very, you know, well-regarded person with a lot of credentials and whatnot, obviously a very brilliant person, But how we described Council Bluffs was a small farming town in Iowa.

And that caught me out guard because, yeah, I mean, it's not like a major metropolitan area. Omaha, the metro area in 1977 didn't have a million people that lived here. It was more like 500,000, but still, you know, it's not, Council Bluffs isn't a small farming town. And he also didn't provide any context about there being. a decent size regional airport that would have been five minutes away from where this incident happened didn't make any mention of Council Buzz being part of the Omaha Metro area didn't make any mention of the fact that you know a very critical Air Force base critical to national security was 10 15 minutes down the road to the south so that kind of got my antenna up a little bit and you know

got me thinking, you know, about some other things that I've noticed, like, about certain UFO celebrities, pervaders, whatever you want to call them, that want to be in the public eye, it seems like, and want their name out there more than what you do, which is sharing story, letting people share their stories and telling us about previous cases and what's going on in the news, that kind of thing. So we really appreciate what you do, right? But anyway, the reason I mentioned that that last piece is because that is what seeing Gary mentioned, Gary Nolan mentioned the crash in 1977,

concert bluffs, had me kind of, I don't want to connect the dots, but in the connection between what I saw and a, And what happened in 1977? Probably not, but it's weird that it happened in the same time. So I know I mentioned Ryan to you when I just reached out that I was gonna retrace my steps and to try to see if there's any other details that I remembered about my experience.

So I decided to drive back over to Council Bluffs and like I said, retrace my steps. And also while it was over there, I might as well see what Big Lake Park is like. What just, just to, I'd never been to that particular park and never heard of an incident. So my navigation app took me to Big Lake Park and lo and behold is very, very close to where I had my experience,

where I saw what I saw. In fact, I got off on the same exit as I merged onto when I saw the, object in May of 2024, 25th in Nashville of art. So this incident that I initially wasn't aware of from 1977 happened a stones throw five a couple minutes, five minutes maybe away from where I had my experience, where I saw what I saw. And I just thought that was that was a strange coincidence. and you know that he asked me to talk about

how it made me feel like I said it made me feel excited confused I wasn't afraid at all I was just more excited confused maybe a little disappointed

that my experience was like a ball of rust and not not like a triangle or a saucer or one of the more traditional experiences you hear about but maybe it's a good thing because there's some unpleasant side effects that tend to go with seeing those those kind of crap thank you so much for giving me the time to or let me show my story and keep doing what you do thank you

all right the first um citing i ever had was when i was maybe seven eight i don't know somewhere along there. It was back when I lived in Kentucky and it was the 4th of July. And I remember that everyone was rushing inside, you know, it was so light, everyone was going to bed. And I was kind of the last one in, you know, just kind of taking my time and admiring the stars in the sky. and I saw a white saucer and it just kind of appeared and kind of just kind of just kind of you know like you would see in the movies or something like I don't know it was crazy but it was white which is so weird I don't even think I've ever seen a white one in the movies but another time I was with with two of my friends, this was like back in high school. This was also in Kentucky and we had gone to this location that was having like a fireworks show. You know, they had like music and like food and it was just all sorts of fun, you know, people had their blankets out. And we

We were bored with it because we were younger and everyone else was like old and stuff. So we were bored so we wandered off into the woods. We look up and we see this triangular shaped metal object and it was just kind of very slowly moving along. It's like really, really slowly moving. Almost as if you saw a cloud kind of just passing in the sky. And it had no lights on it. It was just like a very metallic gray color.

And I remember it had like all these intricate kind of designs to it. It was really bizarre, but after a few minutes it kind of just got lost in the clouds. Yeah, thinking back on that stuff is kind of scary. My very last one is the one that I take the most serious because it was just so real and so shocking. It was, this was also when I was young in high school. I was living at home. And I used to stay up really late, you know, like any teenager. And I think I wanted to listen to a CD or I needed a CD, but I had it outside in our

shed because I had this old stereo out there that I would go listen to my tunes on because I can turn it up really loud. So I look at the CD and as I'm coming back in, I look up in the sky and there's this, like a saucer shape, but like a little bit bigger, I guess, like more round than a saucer. It's hard to explain what I mean by that, but it was more of a classic spaceship look to it. And like all around, the outside, there were lights, like blue and red lights. I think there was another color. But this wasn't Fourth of July or anything, like, wasn't near Fourth of July,

unrelated to the Fourth of July. But I just remember those lights, they were so beautiful. And one key thing is that just like, kind of like, the movies like fire in the sky for example there was this beam of light that shined down from this craft and um i i just kind of stood there for a second as i was walking back inside and it just was just sitting there like in the sky for a few seconds and it it wasn't moving and then it just and then it just you know i mean it just disappeared it was gone It's just kind of like something stuck it back up into the sky or something.

That's the impression that I got. But anyway, talking about this stuff scares the crap out of me. So anyway, I hope you enjoy hearing my stories. Bye. Greetings everyone. Ryan Sprague, your host of Summer in the Skies. For over seven years and more than 400 episodes, the Summer in the Sky's podcast has always been free to listen to.

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really, really young, like, maybe like 89, 90. I was just, like, eight or nine years old, something like that. Maybe younger. So I was, well, this was in grade school, so, yeah. This was in Ohio. It was on the playground. I remember everybody was, all the kids and teachers, and stuff we're looking up into the sky,

I looked up and I saw the silver metallic disc-shaped craft, and it was moving, and there's no sound to it, it looked like your classic, like, flying saucer type craft. To me, it actually was almost in the shape of, like, a football shape, you know, like that kind of shape. But it's, it was like a flying desk type thing. And it was so strange.

It was, it was like flying through the air and doing all these like maneuvers and stuff. But then it just stopped. And I thought that was real, I felt like really creeped out because it looked like it was just staring at us, like all the kids and stuff looking at that, looking at it. So it was, and it stopped for a really long time. I think it was like the duration we were outside. We were out there. It was just, it was just up there, you know, motionless. With no sound.

I don't know what kind of, what kind of craft could do that. Like, especially at that time, I don't think we had anything, any kind of technology like that. Back then, it was definitely silvery metallic. The sun was shining off of it. You could see it really well. I mean, I know we got all these drones and stuff flying around now, but back then, I don't think so. Not like this.

Like, and this thing could do maneuvers, like you wouldn't believe. Like, a drone definitely couldn't do anything like that. A plane or a helicopter. couldn't do anything that this could do. Like, it would, it went, it was flying at, like, crazy speeds, and then it would just stop on a dime. Like, what can do that? Nothing.

Nothing can do that. Like, I don't even think anything now can do with this thing, what I saw this thing do. So, back then, I used to see a lot of these UFOs, these, like, silvery metallic UFO. They all looked very similar. They're like a disc-shaped, football-shaped craft. I've seen them like zigzag across the sky and fly in maneuver at incredible

speeds. Again, no sound. These were all in the daytime. It's just crazy. I've seen a bunch of them together and then I've seen like a single one. But sometimes there would be, sometimes I would see like, like two in the same sky together, and they would like, they would be moving at like crazy speeds, like a plane I just don't think could do, and then they would slow down,

then they would like stop on a dime, and just, you know, planes obviously can't do that. You know, a helicopter can, but these aren't helicopters, but these are like cylinder or disc-shaped things. They're definitely circular. They weren't, you know, shaped like any kind of a plane that, you know, that we would have. I don't know. I know a lot of people have seen these. There's a bunch of videos, you know, on them as well.

There's all kinds of pictures. You know, I got my chance to see these darn things, too. So I know they exist. I don't know what they are. I it's so difficult for me to think that it would would be something from us so difficult the way it was is it aliens I don't know is it something else I don't know all I know is what I what I saw and can can share about the experience I would it is definitely creepy like I had a really creepy feeling whenever I saw them I was

freaked, creeped out. At the same time, I did think they were cool, pretty cool looking too. That's definitely what started getting me believing in aliens and all that, all that stuff. But, I don't know, back in 89, 90, I don't know what we had, you know, anything, I don't know if we had anything that could do any, could do that, could do like crazy maneuvers and then stop on a dime and like I would be more willing to think we had something like that now because it's so many years later but back then I just don't see it I don't see it this was like this was like years and years of technology ahead of what of what we had then now I know we have better technology But I can't even see anything now being like that.

But back then, it's like way, way less believable than it would be now. You know, and as I said, this is Ohio, northern Ohio. So, yeah, it's crazy. It's still, it's still crazy to me to this day. what the these mysterious craft that I saw. I saw some other strange things. Like I've seen the black triangles. That was kind of crazy,

but it's a little bit more believable that that was something from us than these metallic craft were. But I have seen those black triangles from back then. At least once, I saw one one time at night. It was at night. And that was weird. That was a weird one too.

I'm much more willing to believe that that was something man-made than these silver metallic discs that were just like flying around like crazy, you know, doing impossible maneuvers and stopping like they did. I remember they used to like kind of float around in the clouds like before accelerating it's weird I remember they used to they used to

move a lot of times they used to move like slowly as I recall because I used to watch them a lot I used to see them a lot when I was young this is like I said early 90s really strange stuff

All right, I'm just rambling on, so I'll stop. Hey, Ryan. Hello, greetings somewhere in the skies listeners. Thank you for giving me the chance to put my story out there. My name is Marco Bazonio. I did some time in the Navy back in 1979, 1980. I've currently, I work in IT and have four. the last 30 plus years. I'm very observant. My wife calls me Hawkeye. I see things constantly.

But not UFO things. I don't want you to think I'm wacky or anything like that. This was a one-time thing. It had to be around the year 2011. I was working different hours in what I was used to, and my schedule had kept changing every few months. right now at that point my schedule had changed from 11 a.m. to 7.30 p.m. So I was done with work. My job was about 17 miles from my home. I was driving northbound on I-95 in Jupiter, Florida, when the sighting occurred. It was dark. It seemed much darker than usual. A lightning storm was brewing. I think the sky was black from clouds blocking all light, but I couldn't see them. To my left, which was west, there was spider web lightning,

and it would just streak across the sky and light up everything. And then it would just wink out. And I was kind of mesmerized by that. And it would do it about every 15 seconds or so. So I was on the right-hand lane and I was mesmerized by the display, only looking forward for a second to make sure I didn't crash. I felt time had stopped or slowed down and I was somewhere in the middle between seconds. I know it sounds weird, but this was the feeling that I felt at the time. Usually I-95 is very busy.

This night it was not. I was in the right-hand lane. I slowed down to a crawl. There was no other traffic, and that was really unusual. The lightning flashed again, and when it went black, a white ball was left. It looked like the size, about twice the size of a basketball from the distance, but it was pitch black. Distance was really hard to judge.

And it streaked slowly across. I don't want to use the word streaked. It moved slowly across the sky. And it had like these tendrils of electricity coming off of it. And it just kind of moved across. And then all of a sudden it pulsed and it went out. And I thought to myself, was that a UFO? Then another lightning flash, and it made another spider web across the sky.

Then another ball of light moved west-northwest for about 10 seconds. Then it was gone. Then it occurred to me that this ball, this was ball lightning. And I said, holy shit, wow. I know that this is rare, and I had not seen it before. and people talk about it, but they always say they hadn't seen it. So then the lightning flashed again, and this time it lasted, the ball came, and it lasted way longer. So it moved across the sky in the same direction.

I watched it intently. I don't know if I was still driving, but I kept questioning my judgment and thinking, Is this ball lightning or a UFO? So as it moved through, a thought came to my mind. Like my brain was saying, keep watching. And obviously, I mean, I was going to keep watching because I'm watching this thing that I've never seen before. I was amazed and mesmerized by the ball lightning,

knowing that it was rare. And I have just seen three, which was awesome to me. Time stretched. It felt like many minutes, passing, though I was driving, I think. I may have stopped. I'm not sure of this. So many things were going through my head at the time, and I was certainly not thinking of grabbing my phone and taking a picture. The ball lightning winked out. It traveled a long way, much farther this time. The lightning flashes again, and I'm looking at it in the middle is this thing. I for sure

I don't want to say it's a UFO, even though in my mind I know that's what it was. It was big, like maybe, I don't know, 50 feet long and maybe 20 or 25, 30 feet wide, but it looked like a big 55-gallon drum that was slightly wider at the top and slightly pinched in about a quarter. the way from from the center of it down so it almost looked like a snow cone but not it didn't come to a point or anything like that so um it was shape the shape was kind of weird it didn't have any lights or no control surfaces and and i could see all this in a few seconds that i was able to see it while the lightning was going and I could see that it was in front of the lightning not behind it because it blotted out part of the lightning and this guy went black and I was saying to myself holy shit that I just see

what I saw and then the lightning flashes again and I'm still looking at it and I had about five or eight seconds to scour the area for it and I looked from side to side all over but nothing It was clearly gone or moved to a location where it was against the black sky. I'm thinking the whole experience may have taken many seconds. I think I was stopped on the shoulder. At some point during this, I was very excited by this time. I couldn't wait to get home to tell my wife. Okay.

Let me back up here a second. How did it make me feel? I've been haunted by this vision. I relive it every day of my life. life, I drive past it every day. That spot. It consumes me, yet I want nothing from it, except to understand what I saw. I would like someone to tell me if this or something very similar has been seen before. I have scoured the internet to see if I could find a similar drawing, picture or description, but have found nothing. I need someone who is in the know, like you,

to tell me that I'm not crazy. I have a similar picture I created in the document that I wrote up so that, you know, if you wanted to, you could see what I'm talking about. It's a rough version. I'm really an observant person. It's in my nature. I don't embellish or lie, so this is my best recollection to the events. I posted a story on SETI.

However, I have not heard back from them. So a little on my personal history. As a child, I had a reoccurring dream. I would see lights outside my bedroom window and knew it to be a craft of some kind. And when I said, I was a child, we're talking about 60 years ago. I was terrified and never wanted to go to sleep knowing I was going to be taken.

I am 65 years old, and I think maybe 8 years old when this occurred. at the time I was sheltered and had no reference to flying saucers or aliens. I had no history that could have been corrupted in my mind and made me believe at the time that spaceships and aliens were real. This thing that I saw had no lights, no control surfaces. Not sure what it was. It was just hanging there like a Christmas ball. And I wish somebody, I hope somebody, can come back.

and say, hey, we've seen the exact same thing. Thank you for your time. Thanks for listening to my long, convoluted story. Have a great day, guys. Thanks. Bye. If you would like to share your UFO story, reach out to Ryan on social media or use the email address in the show notes to discuss further. Please take a moment to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

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