Somewhere in the Skies - Witness Accounts: Volume 23

Episode Date: November 7, 2022

On episode 290 of SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES, it is a brand-new installment of witness accounts. From seeing a grey alien on the sidewalk in New Jersey to a possible moment of contact with the Phoenix Lights craft in 1997. We then head to the UK and Australia to hear the accounts of several witnesses who experienced all different types of anomalous phenomena. It is yet another emotional and profound volume of accounts that continue to have us seeking answers to these mysteries, somewhere in the skies.  Special thanks to those who shared their stories in this episode. If you would like to share your UFO story, you can contact us at the socials below or by using the contact tab on the website.  Patreon: www.patreon.com/somewhereskies Website: www.somewhereintheskies.com YouTube Channel: CLICK HERE Book your Cameo video with Ryan at: https://bit.ly/3kwz3DO Official Store: CLICK HERE Buy Somewhere in the Skies coffee! Use promo code: SOMEWHERESKIES10 to get 10% off your order: https://bit.ly/3rmXuap Order Ryan’s book in paperback, ebook, or audiobook: https://amzn.to/3PmydYC Twitter: @SomewhereSkies Instagram: @SomewhereSkiesPod Read Ryan’s Articles by CLICKING HERE Watch Mysteries Decoded for free at: https://bit.ly/3rJpbd7 Opening Theme Song, "Ephemeral Reign" by Per Kiilstofte Copyright © 2022 Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/somewhere-in-the-skies. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Somewhere Skies. This is Somewhere in the Skies with Ryan Sprague. Greetings, Ryan. First off, I would like to thank you for the challenging yet wonderful work that you are doing and the important contribution that you are making to the ever-expanding database of one of humankind's greatest enduring and most profound mysteries. My first experience occurred back in 1993 when I was living in a suburb of northern New Jersey. I had to be 19 or 20 years old at the time. It was a rainy evening, and I was driving west towards my home with one of my close friends in the passenger seat beside me.

We drove up a long drawn-out hill, and as we arrived at the peak, I noticed a bright yet strangely reserved a pair of lights not too far off in the distance straight ahead of us. I say reserved because to me they seemed bright, but less radiant like sunlight, and more softly glowing like the moon. This particular road stretched for several miles between two towns and was flanked by low swampy grasslands on either side of the road. The lights were side by side and resembled the headlights of a vehicle, except that they were not on the road, but rather they were slightly above it. It did not appear to be moving.

My friend later estimated that the lights were approximately 25 feet straight above the pavement. It seemed peculiar to me, so I brought it to my friend's attention. He acknowledged that he was already aware of it. There were no cell phones at the time, and we did not have a camera with us. However, my friend happened to be carrying a small tape recorder with a cassette tape, so he pressed the record button and began to describe what we were seeing. As we approached the bizarre lights, it became more and more apparent that this was not an airplane or a helicopter, and there was no civilian drone technology at the time. We confirmed that the lights were

stationary as they remained in the same position, yet appeared to increase in size as we got closer to them. Just as we were about to drive underneath them, one of the lights lifted quickly, while remaining equidistant from the other, and the two, which now appeared to be part of a single object that neither of us could make out, shot off to the north, and disappeared instant. in the snap of a finger. Poof, gone. Just like that. Although we were unable to capture any photos,

an audio recording of our emotional response to the event is evidence that the two of us witnessed something shocking enough to cause us both to yell out, holy shit, in our shared state of astonishment and wonder. I remember that the two of us were hysterical and tears were streaming down our faces. To my knowledge,

This has never happened to either one of us before while witnessing an airplane or a helicopter. I would also like to mention that whatever this thing was, it was completely silent. My friend wrote the following in his diary entry on this day. When we were in the car, we were contending with driving sounds, engine, tires on road, and the rain adds quite a bit to clatter and white noises it all up. However, there is no question we were very close to. of the source of light, and at no point had I even considered that I didn't hear anything usual or unusual. I can't buy into a scenario where we transact a small engine plane's flight path

or big private jet. It was definitely not a helicopter, as they are a lot louder than planes, and they disturb everything around with turbulent rotors. End of diary entry. When this occurred, we were about a mile or so away from my apartment, so we were. we continued to rave about our experience with the tape recorder still running. There were other vehicles on the road as well. Did anybody else see this? This is where and when the high strangeness really peaked. As we approached our destination, my friend shut off the tape recorder and we drove a short distance, entranced in complete silence. Suddenly, I observed one of the most odd things that I

had ever seen in my life. Casually walking down the sidewalk, just the around the corner from my home was what appeared to be a stereotypical gray alien, slender and lanky with long, thin, wiry arms, legs, and fingers, and a large bulbous head with big dark eyes. I couldn't believe what I was looking at. Was anybody else seeing this? There were other cars in the road here as well, and people coming and going relatively nearby. Before I could say anything to my friend, he uttered with a bewildered tone to his voice. boys, did you see that? I said something to the effect of the thing with the big head walking down the sidewalk. He nervously responded, yes. We both fell silent again and drove the rest of the way

to my place where we spent the remainder of the evening, calmly discussing all that had happened to us. For some odd reason, my friend is unable to recall this last part of the experience, the appearance of the alien being on the sidewalk. Although he recalls every. everything else with as much clarity as I do, and with nearly identical descriptions of the phenomena as those of my own. I have had several other experiences with unidentified phenomena and high strangeness following this event, including one later that same year. But I would like to leave it at this for now, so that I may share some thoughts as to what some of the possibilities are in regard to what this phenomena could potentially be. All, of course, are entirely speculative. It

be extraterrestrial. Perhaps, even as some speculate, interdimensional, I have experienced peculiar geometric craft and extremely vivid dreams. I have woken up from lucid dreams with the thought that these are some sort of reality-bending crafts from liminal worlds that seem to have a being or consciousness of their own, perhaps biological, perhaps artificial intelligence, perhaps some sort of a hybrid of the two. Their very presence seems to warp, reality or consciousness to the extent that everyday sensations and perceptions, dreams, out of body states, visions, hallucinations, psychedelic spaces, and myriad other states of awareness all blend together in various ways into incomprehensible hyperspaces

that seem to profoundly transform the human experience of sensation and perception and of space and time into something that transcends the very essence of the human experience itself. Perhaps it is human or non-human time travelers. Perhaps it is highly advanced human technology from the past or future. Perhaps it is human-generated artificial intelligence. Perhaps it is a biological creature or creatures that coexist on our planet that are technologically more advanced than we are. Perhaps it is from the depths of our deserts. Perhaps it is from the depths of our oceans. Perhaps it is from the depths of our jungles. Have you seen these craft represented in the paintings of the late Pablo Amaringo, a Shaman turned artist following a psychic attack from another shaman that nearly killed him?

Maybe the phenomenon is holographic. Maybe the phenomenon is the hallucination of a mass psychosis. Maybe the phenomenon is an artifact of mass hypnosis. Maybe the phenomenon is a mind virus. Maybe the phenomenon is a hoax. Maybe the phenomena is a tulpa or thought formation created consciously or subconsciously by individuals or collectively that takes on a life of its own apart from its generator or generators. Maybe the phenomena are what many through the ages have commonly been referred to as angels, demons, or fairies and elves. Are they some sort of probes of observing life on our planet? Are humans some sort of genetic experiment? Could the so-called zoo hypothesis be correct? Are they somehow associated with death in the after-death state? Anyone's guess is as good as mine.

The only thing I know for sure is that something out of the ordinary, and perhaps out of this world, happened to my friend and I in 1993, followed by other events later that same year and in the summer of 1996. Memory changes of her time. and although it is within the range of possibility that the explanation for the experience described above is entirely prosaic. I cannot shake this deeply rooted feeling that this is not the case. Ryan, thank you again for all of the great work that you do, and thank you to all of those who have shared their stories, as well as those who have taken the time to listen and have approached this topic,

keeping the balance of an open mind with a healthy dose of skepticism, along with a pinch of imagination. And we must remember the words of the late, great David Bowie. There's a star man waiting in the sky. He'd like to come and meet us, but he thinks he'd blow our mind. Hi, Ryan, and the somewhere in the sky's listeners. My name's Hilton. I live in Newcastle of Pontine in the UK,

and after Stalinger, a question of your podcast and hearing the other witness accounts, I thought I'd leave my own with you. this event happened in about October 2019 just before kind of the world locked down for COVID a colleague and myself went out for well went out for a smoke break I went to go stretch my legs and we were just standing in front of my building

and at the foot of the town where the river flows past and while we're having a conversation my colleague basically just stopped talking to me in mid-sentence and was looking sort of past my head up the road at a patch of sky

above the actual town centre itself he eventually sort of like pointed to where he was kind of looking and initially I couldn't see a thing it just looked like there's a patch of blue sky with sort of cloud kind of moving through and eventually I

caught on to what it was and could see it it was something I've never seen before. It looked, it was probably about the shape of a matchbox. It was very square, flattened, but its size, it appeared to be quite big, like massive. I'd say size of like a football pitch and the height above the ground, I'd say maybe about 2, 300 feet. and it was just motionless. It was positioned sort of one end down by about maybe 15 degrees. And yeah, it just seemed to be actively camouflaging against the backdrop, which were the clouds.

And you could literally only make it out as the clouds sort of moved past it. There was a fraction of time where you could see the outdown of whatever this thing was. It was also, yeah, completely motionless. It wasn't moving. and no sound except for the sound of the traffic and the normal sounds from like a busy city. But yeah, there was no propulsion or anything you could hear and it was just there. And we both stared at it in like complete awe for about maybe five minutes, trying to get our heads around what we saw and then decided to go back in the office. And on the way up in the lift we at that point decided not to really mention this to anyone.

because we would say like we're smoking something else and I've literally maybe told to other people and it's yeah it's kind of really blow in my mind I don't know its origin I don't know if it's from this earth

or from somewhere else all I know is that the technology that was used by this device or craft is unlike anything I've ever seen before and it's kind of blown my mind and I thought I'd basically share this with everyone else. That is the only sort of occasion in the

northeast that I've seen something like this. Yeah, I was really hoping I was going to see more of them. We'll see it again but judging by how hard it was to spot it's unlikely I'd see another one like this again. But there we go. That's my tale. Hi, my name's Steve. I'm from the northwest of England. I've been working as an entertainment for the last 25, 26 years, so constantly on the motorways late at night. I've never really seen anything, really. I'm always looking, because I do enjoy that kind of thing. I've been into the UFO subject since I was a small boy.

So I'm always been intrigued by that. And one particular night, this was about, roughly, I'd say, about 12, maybe 13 years ago, around autumn time, around the time it is now. I was with my wife at the time We were driving from a place of work Down the M6 And it was about 1110pm

Around the Stoke-Stafford area On the M6 It was clear And this is one incident I never told anybody The next incident I'm going to tell you Happened the following night on the same stretch of road But this incident

I never told anybody because it was just too bizarre they're both bizarre but this was just it didn't come in under the same reference points and framework as you know conventional UFOs and in the sky we could see a triangular box like if you can imagine a gigantic there was those flat white MP3 players that we used to have you know a few years ago before everything changed and they went into phones forget the name of them now but you know he's had the dial on the front imagine like a big redire rectangular craft with no wings and on the back on the very back of it there was a pole just like a just a big pole of sort of a mast and on top of that mast was a big white glowing orb at the back and this thing was shooting from east to west at phenomenal speed like somebody was just joyriding in the sky and we were like Jesus look at this and

And then eventually we obviously, we sort of got under it and went past it, but it was still screeching, screaming across the sky. Going at least 50 to 100 miles in just seconds, and went, woof, straight across and back again. It was strange. It was a bizarre incident, which I just disregarded because, you know, it's no wings. What are you going to tell people you saw a flying box with a, glowing orb on the back.

They already think I'm mad. So, uh, anyway, the next night were on very similar, uh, stretch of motor on the way, but it's almost the same area.

Stoke Stafford almost around the same time. So now, uh, my wife and I, my, uh, were looking in the sky with like, like,

do you remember that thing we saw last night? Like, yep, yep, yep, yep. And, and then to the left of us, about a few hundred yards down on the left

above the tree line on the hard shoulder came a black triangular craft with a light under each apex of it and it was going so slow that it looked like it was just floating drifting and it didn't make a sound not a single sound and anything that was

travelling at that speed would have had to have had to a down draft because it would have just dropped out of the sky and everything went deadly quiet the car was quiet the air

that was rushing through the car that went quiet and we just watched it everything slowed down and it came over the car literally he could have hit it with a

you know a cat hole you know he was 50 feet away from the car but above it and it just drifted over it was gunmetal black and it it it just drifted silently right across the motorway

across over to the fields to the east side so it went from west to east as we're travelling towards Liverpool area well sort of that area on the M6 we're going that way we're going northbound and it went straight across and just slowly drifted across the fields.

Didn't make a sound. I had no jets, no propulsion, no nothing, just a black triangle. And you could see it kind of like, it didn't have any markings or anything like that. And it was, you could see it was a solid object and it was kind of bolted together kind of thing. You didn't see any bolts or anything,

but you could see that it had been made. It weren't like cast. Like your normal UFOs There's no seams, is there? And all that kind of stuff. This one looked like it had been made because I don't know what I mean by that really. Take from that what you will.

And it just disappeared and went over to the east. So it would have gone sort of a Stafford area over that way. And I looked at my wife and said, are you seeing this? And she said, yeah, yeah, I can see it. I can see it. And then that was it. It was done.

It was over. And so we talked about it. And then we split up a few years later. About nine, ten years later, we split up. But then every occasion we remain friends. And every now and then,

I would message and say, do you remember these incidents? And she's like, yeah, and clearly, clearly mentioned it. So anyway, about three months later,

it's winter time. So these are three, three very, very different craft UFO sightings. And I've never had. had any in my life and I got three of them within three months and the third one I was driving back from Leeds area um on the M62 again going home uh that way so I think it's east or west I can never remember and I got to the I got past the sort of the big hill bit where you go over and it's like

the highest motorway in England and all that and then I'm dropping down and as I got to a really clear bit I'm looking to my right and you can look over I think it's Halifax and you can see into Halifax, you can see all the lights blinking and you can see everything clearly, you can see church steeples, you can see everything. And what caught my attention, first of all, was the moon. The moon was absolutely beautiful. It was massive. You could make out all the patterns on it and all the face of it and all that kind of.

It was a beautiful colour, sort of a milkish, orangy sort of glow to it. And then just underneath it, so halfway between the horizon, and the moon was another moon. Like, it was the same shape, the same colour. It was, and it was massive. It was just hung there. And now I'm thinking, what the bloody hell is this? And then after about a few seconds, it pulsated.

It sort of went, and then shrank to ten times less its size. So it shrank down to about the size of a basketball. all. So now it's tiny and then it just lowered itself really sort of slowly right

over the town of Halifax, kind of over a building, maybe it was a church I'm not really sure, but it was very similar to if you've ever seen the dome of the rock thing the one where it came down and go over the dome of the rock and then flashed and went off

and it got to the hanging over the buildings. And then it flashed again three times. They're like a woof, woof, woof, woof, and then shut back to where it was and then swelled to its original size. It was just the most incredible thing I've ever seen. So get this, I now ring my wife who's working at the Royal Exchange Theatre in Manchester and I see, so it must have been about quarter past ten at this time, and I see she's just finished a shift. So she'd be leaving

And I rang her And I said You're never going to believe what I'm looking at And she said Is it like a really big white ball in the sky It looks like the moon? And I was like, no way it is And she was in Manchester at this time

And this was way It's sort of that over The Halifax way She'd seen it from Manchester From the Royal Exchange Theatre I don't know why, how or whatever Make of that what you will I don't know what it, but she saw that

So I rang my friend who lives in the flats in Leeds and made him go to the top of his building, but he couldn't see it. You couldn't see it. But I hope that interests you. There's three very bizarre stories. And if you want to go out, if you've ever seen people of Earth, the show, people of Earth, which is excellent if nobody's ever seen it, go and see it.

The ship, the mother ship that's hiding behind the moon in the show, they have a carrier craft. And the carrier craft that takes them from their ship to the earth is exactly the same as what I first saw that rectangular thing and that's when I felt confident to tell people about it because I'm like, these guys know what they're talking about. They've seen something who's wrote this show. Anyway, I hope you enjoy this story. It's true. There's no bullshit there or anything like that. That's word for word exactly what happened and I have a witness as well. I hope you enjoyed that. Thank you. Do you like stories of the strange, the weird and the unexplained? Then we want you to check out

Jim Herald's campfire. The concept is pretty. simple. Jim talks to regular people about strange stuff that happens to them. And yes, that includes UFOs, along with cryptids, ghosts, and head scratchers. He doesn't exaggerate or play a lot of spooky music, kind of like I'm doing right now. The stories speak for themselves. Ones like a ghost story involving serial killer Ted Bundy or the young man who encountered an eight-legged demon. Then there's the story of an alien abduction by what could be considered a reptilian. Now, not all the stories are horrifying. Some are actually pretty heartwarming, like a visit from a past loved one or a peaceful near-death experience. Regardless, these are true and fascinating stories told by ordinary

people who've had extraordinary experiences. Tune in to Jim Harold's Campfire on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to somewhere in the skies. And remember, stay spooky. All right, so I'm going to tell my UFO story that I have only told a very few people about because the response I usually get from it. It's usually either negative or people just think I'm crazy. Anyway, let me set the stage.

It was about 1996, roughly right in there. And I was visiting a friend of mine down in Sierra Vista. and in Sierra Vista you can see the mountain range it's about five miles away right and then at night you can see this little blimp they have a blimp there that has a little light on it and it's got a radar on it right and it's probably like 30 or 40 feet long or whatever so anyways back during that time you know in mid 90s we didn't have um you know internet or anything like that so we only paid attention to like local news and things like that maybe we'd see something on about Tucson but you know We never knew what was going on in Phoenix.

So during this time, I found out years later about the Phoenix lights. So I'm not sure if it happened during that time or that exact same day. Somewhere around there, right? So anyways, we're down there and it's, I don't know, maybe 930, 10.30 at night. It's not late because we have to go back to Tucson later on that night. We were down there picking up an amp or something. All these guys weren't a band. So, you know, musical instruments and stuff like that.

I tried learning the guitar a little bit. You know, I could do like harmonics and a couple of chords, but I couldn't really do much with that. So anyways, we were down there, and it was nighttime, and he's got a bunch of dogs running around. He's sitting, he's got this little oasis. We're all sitting around this fire pit, right? So all of a sudden, the dogs start freaking out, right?

And we're like, what's going on? You know, and he's playing guitar or whatever, jamming out. Stupid solos. It's pretty funny. We're just having a good time. And so they start running towards the mountain, or towards the front gate. This is like an acre property.

And it's nighttime. You can see some stars, a little bit of moon glow, but you can't really see anything. So anyways, these dogs are barking. They run towards the gate, and there's like five of us. So we were standing there looking at the, we all get up and walk over to look at the dogs, right? Okay. So, and then all of a sudden we look up in the sky. And there is a massive, and I mean massive, triangular craft.

coming over us really slowly. And it's absolutely massive. I mean, huge. And it's cruising along super slow. And as it, you know, it just completely blacked out the stars in that formation so we could see the, you know, the shape of it. So as it's going forward, you know,

the dogs have stopped barking now and we're all just in awe. And then you can see the back. And on the back, there were two big, like, reddish-orange lights. Okay. So anyways, these things, these big glowing orange lights on the back of it. And as it's going down, it's going really slow. Something that big really can't make any turns anyway, I guess. So it's going down.

And now we can see that little blimp I had mentioned, right? And from the blimp, we could start gauging how big it was. So we had time to discuss how huge this thing was. And it was absolutely the biggest thing. It was like a starship destroyer. What's the name of the... The battleships and Star Wars. Star Destroyer.

The Star Destroyer, something like that. It's been a while else. Yeah. So it's something like that. So as it's cruising down, it starts to turn, and then we can see the nose of it. The nose of it has another big yellowish, reddish, orange light. And if you've ever, if anybody's ever seen that, you can't, it's unmistakable that when they say that, you'll know what it, you'll know what it is, right? So anyways, this big object is now flying over the Sierra Vista.

which is home to a military base for Wachuka, and that's why the blimp is there for low-flying aircraft for smugglers and stuff like that. So anyways, we're discussing how big it is because we know how far away everything is because we live there, right? We know it's five miles. We know that blimp's 40 feet long.

We know Sierra Vista's right over here, we know. And as it cruises along, it's just cruising along. It starts to go north, and then it kind of turned for some reason and just kind of did an entire 180. That's what it appeared to be doing. Anyways, it did appear on the top of it. You could see a bunch of little lights.

So this thing was huge, right? And I've never, in my years, seen anybody talk about anything that big flying on. I've heard about the triangle thing over the years, but nothing this big. And then as it, then it just kind of flies off into the distance. So that is the edited version of what I tell people, right? Because the last part, which I think is the coolest part, okay, when I tell people this stuff,

it's, then it gets to where people have weird reactions, right? While this massive object is flying over our heads, we're all hanging out. Buddies, we're laughing. We're, oh, my God, we're talking about this. I go check this out. And I grab the guitar, and I start to play close encounters of the third kind in the harmonics. B-boom, be-boom, boom, boom, boom. And I go faster, faster, faster, right?

And now everybody's laughing, right? Oh my God, you're playing close encounter as a third pattern. There's a UFO flying by, you know, or flying over us, right? So people are just, they're just like laughing and having a great time. And so that happened, okay?

And I don't tell people that to that, but also what happened during that time when I was playing that, the lights on the, the damn thing started to dim and brighten as I was playing the harmonics and then as I was doing it faster faster it would dim and get faster and faster not like blinking or anything crazy like that and then as I slowed down and stock the lights went completely solid again and it just kept cruising along and was it contact I don't know and I don't care but it was probably the most coolest thing I've ever seen people you know I don't tell people about it because it's weird

thing. But it happened around 96, and it may have been the same day as the Phoenix Lights. I don't know. I didn't hear about that. The Phoenix Lights... 10 years later? Yeah, probably about 10 years later. And then when we told our people, you know, relatives and friends and family about it in town, and Toonstones is only, you know, 1,200 people. Immediately the rumors spread that we're all on drugs, because we lived in Tucson, so nobody knew what we were doing or whatever. And everybody was freaking out about us. When I came back down like a week later, something like that. I mean, it's just rumors were just crazy.

And I was like, you guys can kick rocks, you know? And then the other guys who were still living down there, I asked them, if they told anybody and they were just like, we're not, we can't tell, we're not telling anybody. So they just didn't want to talk about it because their friends and stuff like that started really just like looking all weird out of it or whatever. Personally, I didn't give a crap, right? And so I kind of just put this in my mind that, okay, you know,

don't talk about that because people think it's weird and when i tell people it's you know they tend to you know they take the first version and they're like wowed by it and then when i tell them the other things that have and the cool stuff what i think is awesome and kick ass then they immediately dismiss me as bullshit right and that's when it gets a little little weird and then during that time for me after that i kind of just lost interest in the whole alien thing because in my mind how can something this big fly down over a communications military base and fly across their base town it's a military town Sierra Vista right and nobody saw it and it was like 10 o'clock at night and nobody said anything about it so in my opinion it was like okay I've had enough of this crap I'm moving on so and it took a while

before I started watching you know alien movies and things like that and I've tried to watch some of the other stuff where people are giving their descriptions of the videos or whatever they all look like they've just been traumatized by, you know, somebody just beat them horribly bad. I saw something or whatever, right? And to me, it was the coolest fucking thing ever. And I don't know. That's what happened and that's it. Hey, Ryan, my name's Mike.

I am from Australia and I've got a couple of experiences that I'd like to share. These all happened a long time ago now, over 20 years ago. But, yeah, they've really stuck in my mind. and yeah, just want to sort of share them. So, yeah, the first strange thing I oversaw in the sky was in late 1999. My girlfriend and I went camping in this national park in remote eastern Victoria. So it's on the coast. And, yeah, we were camping in the forest, just a couple of minutes walk from the beach.

So one night we decided we'd go down to the water just to watch the stars. and listen to the ocean. So we're lying in these sand dunes, and at one point my girlfriend says, what's that? And she points out these three stars that are moving. So automatically, you know, we knew it was something a bit strange. So there's these three stars in a perfect triangle formation,

moving really fast as well, so faster than a satellite and faster than a plane. started trying to figure out exactly what it was. So as it moved across the sky, and we had a view of the entire sky, basically. So, you know, we're in the beach, and it was a clear night, no clouds. We could see this thing go from one side of the sky,

basically directly overhead us right to the other side. And my girlfriend saw them when they were pretty low in the sky. So they were really noticeable. They were really bright. So, yeah, as it moved across stars, this triangle didn't block anything, so it wasn't one single object. It was three separate things. So yeah, perfect equilateral triangle, and one of the points was leading the way.

So as it moved across the sky, these things sort of stayed in formation. They didn't, like, yeah, stayed as a triangle. didn't slow down, didn't change direction or anything like that, and, yeah, stayed the same brightness all the way across the sky. And there's no sound either. So, yeah, it was really weird, really strange, no idea what it was. And the strange thing as well, just a couple of weeks later, is that we saw a second strange thing in the sky.

So with my girlfriend, again, we went for this walk one afternoon in this park. They're right on the outskirts of Melbourne, right at the north of the city. There's this park which kind of overlooks the airport. Yeah, there's a hill which overlooks the airport. So one afternoon we're up there just going for a walk. And we noticed this light appear in the sky. So it's late afternoon, but still, daylight, the sky is still, you know, still blue, still pretty light. But yeah, this, this bright light

just appeared out of nowhere. So, yeah, just really quickly appeared from dim to really bright. But, you know, we're near an airport. And yeah, we just didn't really pay too much attention to it. We didn't worry about it. Just, you know, just thought it was a plane off in the distance somewhere. So, yeah, we just kept walking, talking. Yeah, a couple of minutes later, we noticed that this light that we'd seen earlier was still in the sky, and it was still in, like, the same spot. So then we thought, hang on, that's, that's, yeah, it's a bit unusual. It can't be, can't be a plane. It would have been moving, you know.

So, yeah, we started really paying attention to this thing, and it was not moving, and it was bright. So, yeah, still daylight. and this thing was bright. It was really bright. So it didn't actually do anything, though. It just stayed in one spot. But we were watching it for at least 10 minutes, trying to figure out what it was.

And we had no idea. And given what we'd seen a few weeks earlier as well, you know, we were sort of like, paying attention to stuff in the sky all of a sudden. So, yeah, this thing, it, again, This wasn't something normal. This was a bit strange. So, yeah, we were watching it.

It wasn't moving. It was too bright. It was still too early in the evening to be a planet coming out or anything like that. So the same way that we had seen it appear, after a few minutes or so, it disappeared as well. So hadn't changed brightness at all. And then all of a sudden just quickly dimmed. and disappeared as well.

So, yeah, not normal. Very strange. So, yeah, then we started sort of expecting, you know, the third thing to happen kind of soon, but nothing did for a while, until we went on this holiday to New Zealand. And this is almost exactly 12 months after we saw that triangle of lights down in Victoria.

12 months later, we're in New Zealand, down in the South Island. We went on this hike. We did the Kepler track. So on the last night of that, we were camping near this lake. So this walk that takes just a couple of days through the wilderness. And on the last night, we're camping near this lake. And as the sky was getting dark, we were just sort of like, you know, watching the stars come out. pretty, you know, sort of right at the start of the evening.

I noticed this flash of light, like a star, appearing and then disappearing straight away. So it got my attention, and as I looked, I saw a second, and then a third flash. Again, like just three really quick flashes of light. The first one was bright. The second one was less bright, and the third one was even less bright still.

So I had never seen anything like that before. no idea what it was, but it was all over in a second, so I didn't really, you know, didn't think too much about it, didn't worry about it at all. As the sky sort of got darker. Yeah, you look across the lake to these mountains, a couple of kilometres away, like fairly big mountains. So yeah, as the sky got darker, we noticed this orange glow coming from near the peak of one of the mountains and yeah it looked like a fire so i was thinking i was going to have to start walking again you know through the to the darkness and trying to alert somebody because yeah it looked exactly like what we what we guessed was a fire but before i could get going and do any of that

it changed from this sort of like like diffuse glow sort of thing into a distinct beam. And actually, like, then we stopped worrying because then we thought, oh, maybe it's just a car. It looked like, you know, I guess car headlights or something on, like a car going up the mountain. So, yeah, we relaxed about it at that point. So we're just watching this for a few minutes. And then it sort of dawned on us that we're looking into pure wilderness.

And, you know, There's no roads, and there's nothing out there. So it couldn't be a car. And also, like, we were watching it for a while. So if it was a car, it would have sort of moved somewhere. It would have got where it was going. But this beam of light thing was just sort of, like, you know, moving. It's mostly pointing up, but just, you know, moving from side to side as well.

So, yeah, at that stage you thought, well, after these flashes of light and now this, then start to realize that things are getting a bit strange. Yeah, but the strange thing is, like, my reaction, my girlfriend had already sort of gone back to the tent, and I did the same thing as well. So I'm the one that saw the flashes of light, and then we both saw this glow turning to something a bit weirder.

but yeah my reaction was just to go to sleep as well go go back into the tent and just just fall asleep so looking back it's kind of strange that I saw all this stuff develop and I saw it get weirder but I don't know what happened I always kind of wish I had sort of stuck around and seen more but at the time you know there's a little bit of fear involved so I think it was a bit of like fight or flight then the natural response sponsors just to sort of hide from it and go to sleep. So that was a bit strange. And the other strange thing, though, is the three flashes of light, which was the first thing I saw. And even at that time, I just didn't worry about it at all. So even having seen, you know, that triangle of light,

instantly I knew that was a bit strange. The flashes of light was a little bit strange, but didn't really worry me. And the weird thing as well is I've ended up seeing that quite a lot over the years. You ended up living in the country for a while. And it wasn't unusual to be out in a paddock in the evening. And yeah, it just happened to look up and see three flashes. Again, like bright, less bright,

even less bright again. It happened so often that it just, it wasn't even a surprise after a while, and it's something that I never was concerned at all about it, never really cared a hell of a lot about it. It's only looking back. I think it's strange, because I haven't seen it for a while,

but here's the other thing that I used to really love looking at the sky. So even as a kid, I spent a lot of time looking up. When I was little, I wanted to be a pilot, and I ended up getting interested in astronomy as well as a kid. So I spent a lot of time looking up day and night. And in all those years, I'd never seen anything strange. That triangle was the first strange thing I'd ever seen. Yeah, so these flashes a lot. I always used to look up, but then, yeah, I've sort of like stopped looking up.

So the night sky used to spend a lot of, like if I was outside, I'd always look up. I'd always want to sort of see something. But, yeah, over the years that that's sort of like disappeared. And it's not just that my interest has disappeared. Like, my feelings about it have changed as well. So if I'm out at night on a really, really clear night, I do sort of avoid looking up. It's like this background sort of not wanting to see what might be there. So that's a little bit of a shame, I guess.

But, yeah, I still like planes, so I still look up during the day. I've got no problem with that. Okay, Ryan, yeah, I hope somebody else is maybe prompted to share stuff that they've seen even if it might be a long time ago. Thanks. Love the podcast. Yeah, keep it up, Thanks.