Son of a Boy Dad - JELLY ROLL | Son of a Boy Dad: Ep. #118
Episode Date: June 6, 2023JELLY ROLL | Son of a Boy Dad: Ep. #118 -- Follow us on our socials: https://linktr.ee/sonofaboydad -- Merch: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/son-of-a-boy-dad -- SUBSCRIBE TO THE YOUTUBE ...#SonOfABoyDad #BarstoolSports Ads: Bearbottom Clothing - Get free shipping on your first purchase at https://bearbottomclothing.com/SON Barstool Sportsbook - Download and Sign up for the Barstool Sportsbook Today.cTerms Apply. MUST BE 21+ Gambling Problem? CALL 1-800-GAMBLERYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/sonofaboydad
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Slide it in a little bit more.
Just get it all the way.
Yeah, we're good right there.
Are you cool?
I'm going to grab these.
Those are your cans.
Are we running cans or no cans?
Whatever you want.
I go no cans.
I popped them on just because you don't have to go cans if you don't want to
You do no cans?
I'm going no cans
I'm no canning then
I'm no canning
I'm going to take mine off too then
Fuck the cans
Solidarity bro
Fuck the cans
Hell yeah
But yeah let's jump in
Let's jump in
So I've seen y'all on Bustin' with the Boys
Right
And it's still
I want to use this clip
I just need to figure out
Over here who I need to get it cleared with
Because I got a song I want to put it on the front of Probably figure out over here who I need to get it cleared with because I got a song
I want to put it on the front of
probably no one
no
somebody will clear it
I'm sure
but the best thing was
you asked him
you said
you ain't met Jelly Roll yet
he said no
you said
you're so skinny
and white
Jelly Roll might snort you
no
I'm going
I want to use that clip
so bad on my next album
I have the perfect song
for that clip
to start my next album.
So check this out.
This is how I was first introduced to you.
So maybe this will help some of our podcast listeners.
I was down in Nashville shooting a show called Neighborhood Eats,
where we popped around to different places and we ate hot chicken all over the place.
And the first night we went out and we were checking out some live music.
And there's a fucking buzz, dude.
There's a palpable buzz. We're on the second level of this outdoor deck and it's a lot of industry type people
they're like this dude just got signed like this dude's the next dude like watch this dude make
sure you're by the balcony for this dude jelly roll he's about to be up this dude jelly roll
and this dude comes on stage and he's like i woke up this morning still had cocaine in my nose. And I was like, yes!
I'd never heard any fucking,
and I don't know if you want to call it country, rock, pop,
I don't know, or hip hop, trap, whatever you want to call it.
I never heard any music that sounded just like that.
And immediately you had the fucking hook in me.
And later on that weekend, you know,
we hung out the entire weekend.
Later on that weekend,
you came and shot some of the neighborhood east with us but it uh it just like indoctrinated me right away being like this dude is it and everybody else had that cachet about you but
then you immediately lived up to it with like the first fucking line so it's like hey get the
ad lib bro no that shit was awesome dog that was whiskey jam too yeah so you got to know whiskey jam is like a real big thing in our city it's like always been a pulse of the community of what's hot
and it's early in the week so all the tour dudes are just coming off the road from the weekend
warrior shit so everybody's there it's like the it's like the around town like cool kid yeah yeah
you know what i mean and when you get to do the outdoor thing it's a big deal because you say
tonight we did the outdoor and then we went out partied that night too fucking yeah i don't
know what to say about the partying because uh you i had a couple of my camera guys like my my
producers and we went out somewhere on um like uh on broadway just uh and first off you hopped
on stage in the middle of the show and just did tennessee whiskey bro just hit a fucking stapleton
crush it and then went to the back and just grab one of my producers and just did Tennessee whiskey, bro. Just hit a fucking Stapleton, crush it,
and then went to the back
and just grabbed one of my producers.
And we can cut this if we have to.
No, no, I'm over you.
They know what's up with me.
He grabbed one of my producers
and they just went into the bathroom
and he had some big ass,
like,
Aki-looking Samoan bodyguards.
These dudes just stood in front of the door
and him and the producers just
got right.
We went for it, dude.
You know what I call that? Back in
my heyday, we called that the cocaine
parade. Because what would happen is
you would see a group of guys leave the bar
and head to the bathroom together like a bunch
of bitches. And it'd be fucking
like six, seven of
them in a row. i'm like it's the
cocaine parade anytime i see it now i'm like i know i'll just follow you know yeah
yo somebody's got something going on that these other six dudes trust
we should go see what's happening it was just such a to me an iconic um nashville like type
of weekend or whatever and you were kind of our guide for it
and so when i saw you on the list i was like bro can we please get jelly rolling here i know he's
a good time god thank you too bubba because i've and i've man i've been on a the media tour for
the album and besides rogan i don't want to say i haven't got to do i've had to do stuff i can't
cuss at yeah yeah so it's been really cool to get back shows you know cool which is really Yeah, you know, cool, which is really good stuff to do, but it's stuff where you got
to really sit there and think about what the fuck you're talking about.
There's no cocaine for that.
I don't get to tell that story on Good Morning America tomorrow.
You know what I mean?
Did you do Good Morning America?
I'm doing it tomorrow.
Michael Strahan's not looking at me and going, hey, man, you know, tell us about your favorite
drunken night with Roan.
I'm like, ah, you won't believe it.
We were hitting gator tails on a weird
mountain ferry. The mountain, if I call it
the mountain ferry, back when I was in my heyday,
the mountain ferry was the guy who just pulled
little mountains of coke off of somebody else's
car. Like, oh, it's the mountain
ferry. He's here for us tonight. We're all
going to get drunk. It was funny
as hell, but everybody had such, and what struck me about it was that you were um you were just like
grabbing up the producers and like the cameraman and just like hey like come with me like it wasn't
like like you're like only talking to the star of the show i feel like you talked to everybody
yeah for sure man well i'm just fucking dude i'm so glad to be here man you know what i mean it's
like just in like this place in my life.
The fact that I'm back hanging out, getting to see you, and getting to meet my little
friend here who I think is hilarious.
You know what I mean?
Getting to do this all in New York City, to know that I'm waking up and doing Good Morning
America tomorrow.
You know what I mean?
That's awesome.
It's just fucking where am I at in my life right now?
It's unreal.
I was on Rogan three weeks ago.
Yeah.
I just won three country music television awards.
I won the cover of Billboard today today fuck billboards cover they didn't cover they
call it cover profiles now because they don't they're getting away from the magazine stigma
yeah but where i'm you know my culture i'm on the cover of magazine fuck you know what i'm saying
it's like they did a cover profile it's like what the fuck is happening right now it is it's all
ever since we like hung out like i just have seen your ascent so fucking steady and so consistent he told me about you like after neighborhood eats you told me about
you told me told me about you and then i went back to nashville a couple months ago we did
zany's comedy club and everyone talks about you all they do is talk about you well in my in their
defense i live there i have a residency yeah i'm an in-town drunk got
your album on the fucking wall yeah i'm an in-town drunk there yeah it's my favorite bar in nashville
the best place ever dude it's like nobody has phones people say wild shit and it's you can get
blackout drunk it's the it's a it's an artist's dream i can't believe i'm the only artist that
finds solace in a comedy club.
All cameras are taken.
There's no way I'm going to say the most offensive shit here for sure.
100% chance I'm not getting canceled tonight.
Somebody's on stage working at it.
You know what I mean?
It's like, fuck.
You know, it's like, this is great.
I can get blackout drunk.
Nobody judges me.
Stumble to my car.
They'll load me up.
Fucking I'll move out.
You know, it's fucking my spot.
They got enough beer in that green room to kill everyone in there
oh it's the only green room i've ever been in where it's just fucking stocked with beer you
know what i love about what dorfman does there and i don't know if every comedy club like this
joe's was when we went there have you been to the comedy mothership yet no coolest club on earth
you know it's everything you imagine how cool you want it to be and it's even cooler yeah you know michael
longfellow he's on snl oh shit tall skinny dude he uh we were doing moon tower comedy fest in
in austin and he was like everyone says like uh the mothership he's like you can't get canceled
there and he was like i'm sure i could find a way he's like i gotta be able to find there's
gotta be some way to get canceled there i don't
think so though it is lawless comedy yeah it is great they take the phone for every show and it
is all but just the way it's set up to like the way joe had that place set up and there's like a
speakeasy bar named after mitzi downstairs yeah it's just everything about that place is chef's
kiss that's love that's it's about that place is chef's kiss.
That's love.
That's cool that you're just like in the comedy world like that, though.
What do you think draws you to that side of things?
I think it's, you know, humor is the, I think humor and music are the best medicines for the soul.
And I've always said, I joke a lot.
A lot of times I get taken out of context, but in all seriousness, I do think that humor
and music are the medicine of the soul.
And I think that also I got into comedy because I don't like to listen to current music as much because I don't want to be influenced.
Yeah.
I know you battled your whole life.
Did you ever struggle with that?
You couldn't watch so many battles because somebody would have such a cool style.
You, by default, would fight.
I'll never forget the day it happened.
I was such a Drake fan that I was in the studio one time early in my career.
And I said,
some,
some,
some,
some,
some,
some,
some,
some,
some,
some,
some,
some,
never.
And I was like,
I got to quit listening to Drake.
You know what I'm saying?
I got to quit listening to Drake.
It's like,
yeah,
it's like,
I'm fucking,
so like,
I still listen to Drake,
but not during album cycle.
So it's all podcasts and comedies, which is why I walk right in here.
I'm like, yeah, I know a little Sasquatch.
I know what the fuck's going on.
I listen to the pod.
I'm tuned in.
Bro, you're the man.
I told you he's the man.
I'm tuned in.
They say he's like the fucking man, bro.
He's just fucking locked in, dude.
He's like, you want to do Son of a Boy, Dad?
I was like, it's my guy, Ron.
I'm fucking in, for sure.
Yeah, bro.
What kind of music do you listen to if you don't listen to current stuff?
Like 70s singer-songwriter shit.
Yeah?
Yeah, like we talked about Croce a lot on the Joe podcast, but- you listen to if you don't listen to current stuff like 70s singer-songwriter shit yeah yeah like um
we talked about croce a lot on the joe joe podcast but uh i love croce yeah huge croce
fan but like even like dylan like early dylan like even newport newport i know you've been
studying sass bro you're a cia operative bro you got the background file he's obsessed with bob
dylan i love every era of dylan you love
you ever listen to the bootleg stuff i didn't know i know i'm not familiar oh you haven't
listened to the bootlegs put him on bootleg stuff like i'll show you yeah turn me on you
show him a picture you have no clue how much i love getting turned on the new music so uh
this album specifically is one of my favorite bob dylan Let me find this. This one.
Let me see.
Because of that stuff.
Well, this, because it has like the outtake stuff like this.
What's the name of this, Bob?
Where are you tonight, sweet Marie?
Rolling on one.
God, that's dope.
I know, right?
That is so demo.
Yeah, yeah.
That is such like early demo days of a record.
So this is 1965 to 1966
this whole album oh yeah it's just like it's all of his famous songs but it's like live recordings
of that oh it's fucking amazing i'll check it out godless of that that's like the best album you
know we were talking about bob the other day too i loved him through ever like i've seen bob evolve
so much uh the face paint era yeah yeah white face it was a lot it was the
electric one yeah when they did the big tour and it was like they did this underplay of theaters
and like everybody came like the streets were just because back when you just showed them
trying to get a ticket yeah it was full of people it was you gotta watch it it's the
the review fuck is this guy to pull stuff up yeah look up what tour was i was like the white face
yeah yeah it's like there's something for you i fuck him i went high and remember it to pull stuff up look up what tour was Bob Dylan with the white face yeah
it's like
there's something
fuck him
I went high
I'd remember it
because that was
after the basement tapes
right
after he got in
the motorcycle accident
yeah
for sure
the Rolling Thunder
review
so you gotta check that out
watch the documentary
it's fine
but Bob Dylan
with the sunglasses
I love when he was
just like
yo fuck you
I'm putting on sunglasses
and plugging up my guitar
and everybody can suck
my dick soft you know what I'm saying like that's literally how
he did it in a real bob dylan way but literally he's like fuck everybody dude he did the uh he
did that he did that folk he went back to the newport music the newport folk festival or whatever
they called it went back and plugged the guitar in everybody played it and he said fuck you and
then uh some other some other folk musician i forget who it was
came backstage and he was like he had like an axe and he was like i'm gonna fucking cut the
cord of his of his electric guitar yeah are you serious they were they wrote letters to him they
were you gotta realize he was the kid there's a whole doc about all this he was the king of folk
music yeah like made the genre what it was and then was like yeah i'm just and true bob dylan
didn't explain himself because he's counter counter was like, yeah, I'm just, and true Bob Dylan didn't explain himself to nobody. Because he's counter-culture.
He was just like,
yeah,
he was just like,
yeah,
no,
just,
you know,
fuck you.
I'm writing with an electric guitar now.
Yeah,
yeah.
And they were like,
huh?
And he showed up,
plugged the guitar up
and was like,
fucking,
it reminded me of that
Rick and Morty scene
when he's like,
your booze mean nothing.
I seen what makes you cheer.
Yeah.
That's the hottest bar
that they ever said
on that show.
That's a good line.
That's a good line.
That's a good line.
Such a good line.
Dude,
so when you look at your own music bro how are you classifying your fucking
because you're winning country music shit but it's like i could tell you have like a lot of hip-hop
uh like background and shit like that what's your uh like obviously you don't want to put
yourself in a box but like well what are what are the like uh genres you find yourself in
yeah so this album that i'm here that i'm here beating the drum about
is my country debut record it's my first country record but it's really got a it's really got a
rock edge to it some hip-hop and a lot of 808 still in it snares trap hi-hats so when you go
into studio is it like are you like i have this idea that i'm going to put down and there's no
music behind it or are you like i'm going to find a beat and I'm going to try and put something over it?
Or are you like, play a guitar riff?
The guitar.
I'm starting from the guitar for mostly everything now.
And then we're just like letting the production fall,
how the song feels.
And then we'll just let everybody put the genres and boxes
that they put that shit in that I hate.
I think that shit's so close to being gone anyways.
Yeah, it's badass.
It's like really, really close to being in the it's so close to being gone anyways. Yeah. It's badass. It's like really,
really close to being in the era
of being just mood-driven playlist.
Yeah.
Mood-driven music
where it's like,
you know,
I think we're going to be there
in the next five to 10 years,
I hope.
But to me,
dude,
it's like,
I just love music.
Yeah.
Like fucking,
I could just sit here
and we could talk about nothing.
Like he just turned me on
to something. Like I'll sit here for another three hours and just be like what do you got
that was something you think i don't know you know what i'm saying i want to know you know i
want to take notes and be like turn me on because there's so much good shit happening it's so good
to find new music yeah it's like finding a new comedian it's the best thing and finding a new
podcast yeah right when you find like i found one recently i wish i could remember the name of it i
plug them but i suck fucking donkey. No, no, no.
Don't say that, bro.
But it was like a fucking...
We caught it on the road the other day.
It was like one of them true crime stories, but it was like two comedy dudes doing it.
Yeah, yeah.
It's so funny.
Oh, shit.
Was it Small Town Murder?
That's it.
Yep.
It was Small Town Murder, and I know I'm late to the party.
Dude, that...
Fire!
You know what you got to listen to, though?
You got to listen to their old episodes, because they're long now, right?
Yeah, they're like three hours.
They're like three hours.
I've listened to their new ones. It good it's a great podcast i don't know anything bad to say but i was gonna say it sometimes they
do you gotta listen to their old shit sometimes they sometimes they do the intros to the stories
for too long like they describe the town for too long yeah but it dude it's a good ass podcast
it's fucking funny i just found them and it's like a new level of fucking donkey
kong yeah they're great you're like you guys have just been doing this this whole time like i've
been missing this you got 300 up and that's the coolest shit yeah because nothing sucks more than
when you find something new and cool and they don't have anything yeah and you're like this
blows i gotta wait for you to figure it out dude there's like put some new shit over let me enjoy
you let me enjoy your shit there's uh one dude one dude who I used to listen to all the time.
Musician.
Let me find him.
And he has like five phenomenal songs.
Oh, Cosmo Pike.
You know him?
Dude.
Put him on, bro.
You got to give 30 seconds.
Yeah, just 30.
It's like the heat rule
It's like the rule from the movie Heat
Sorry
Oh that's sick
It's a jazz groove
Yeah that's
I mean it's hard to explain.
But it's like, dude, that whole album is phenomenal, but he hasn't put out fucking music.
Unless, did he?
I don't know.
I guess he put out music this year.
All right, I fucked up.
He didn't put out music from until this year, from the last time he put out music was 2017.
And his first album was 2016.
So he only had put out like five songs.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can't tour with that.
No. No. That's whygan wallen's a genius he's dropping 36 songs a year on these motherfuckers yeah
people are like man i can't get enough morgan wall and i was like i know he keeps giving it to me
do you feel that pressure you're like damn i gotta put out shit i gotta put out shit i gotta put out
shit you know for the first time ever ron i't. I felt like that my whole hip hop career.
Yeah.
But since I kind of got into this space now, it's like, you know, I'm just enjoying the slow ride.
You feel like there's like a little bit more honesty that country affords you?
I know we're not trying to get too much into genres, but it seems like there's been a little bit of a pivot.
Yeah, for sure.
For me, it's like, I think country's probably the coolest space it's ever been right now.
Yeah.
Like people that don't like country music love country music right now.
And they don't even know.
Don't even know it really.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, it's like the coolest thing.
So it's, yeah.
Yeah.
It's like, don't even, it's like, it's fucking the coolest.
We're in the coolest era of that ever.
And I think it's because we're getting back to the songwriter artist portion of that shit.
Yeah. We lost that shit for so long.
I called it the Build-A-Bear moment, where they'd fucking find a dude that could sing on the street and be like,
Come in here.
Wear this.
Sing this song.
And they'd give them the song and the producer, and they created X.
You know what I mean?
X wasn't creating themselves.
It wasn't natural.
Fans wasn't creating X.
And you can almost see that.
You go to Broadway during the daytime, and there's some super handsome dude that's fucking
jacked as shit with a beautiful voice that can play guitar, and he's just belting some
shit out on the street.
And they're passing around a bucket, and that's how he's getting paid.
It's like there's so much of that.
Yeah.
Three stories of every bar in the city is somebody singing, and somebody's out of that same there's playing it with a bucket it's fucking you ever do the uh
you ever you ever run the uh the morning shift at a hotel lobby in nashville because that when i was
pulling up i was pulling up there at like 7 a.m at the airport they got it dude blaring country
and i was like dude this is it's too much it's too much right now. What was you doing? Was you just waking up or going in for the night?
I was checking in to a hotel. There's a dude in the lobby. The lobby's empty and there's just a
dude in there just blaring country music, playing live. He's trying to get a game.
You got to realize what you see at seven in the morning and what I used to see at seven in the
morning. I feel like we were already in two different minds. Like I might've been the dude
playing the country music. You know how many times in my life i've went home and seen the joggers
nothing makes you feel dirtier when you're going to sleep to birds chirping yeah there's fucking
birds chirping and fucking motherfuckers jogging and walking pomeranians and fucking
and you're like fuck yeah'm fucking up yeah making you
feel really bad dude we were we when we were in nashville me and him right in this connor mook
and uh what's up mook dude we good to see you bubba you're good good and uh both stand-ups
so they do stand up on the road together oh dope and uh dude i have never feature he hosts oh dope host feature
yeah and dude i've never seen we saw two people specifically that i'm thinking of and i've never
seen people more drunk in my entire life than those people while the sun is out so much pride
yes by the way yeah that means so much that that happened it happened in nashville right oh yeah
oh it means a lot to me yeah even in my reformed ways i'm really excited to know that our town is just still full of douche
baggery oh yeah 100 100 and it's happening on broadway but it's also happening in like little
tucked away weird ass places throughout that city that people probably don't even have access to
oh yeah because broadway is in some ways uh like the vegas strip and people can cosplay. It's Times Square. Yeah, they can cosplay as cowboys, kind of,
and women can go on a bachelorette party and wear pink cowboy boots
and ride in the back of like a –
Yeah, pink and white cowboy boots are the telltale that you're from out of town.
Yeah, and that's part of the experience.
No shame being from out of town because you're going there to have a good time.
I love people that come and embrace culture
because I'm the same fat dude walking down the street in New Orleans
like, throw me beads, baby.
I'll show you Tennessee's culture.
You know what I mean?
It's like, yeah.
It's like, fuck.
I'm embracing the culture, too.
Totally.
There's nothing wrong with that.
I'm going to go out here and get some street meat right now.
Yeah.
I'm going to try to get dog sick eating out of a truck tonight.
But there's weird shit going on in Nashville, too, though, which I'm sure you know about, bro.
I'm sure you know about all the fucking strange-ass warehouse parties and offbeat counterculture shit that's going on out there.
Oh, yeah.
No, it's a thriving force in the city.
Yeah.
So are you from Tennessee?
Born and raised.
Born and raised.
Yeah.
That's why I'm so synonymous with the city, I think.
I don't even think it's because of the music shit as much as like.
Yeah.
I'm just like one of the last locals left, it feels like, kind of.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
If that makes any sense.
No, I get that.
I still walk through back doors and bars.
Yeah.
It's not because I'm, quote unquote, a musician. It's more because, oh, it's fucking jelly. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know what I mean? If that makes any sense. No, I guess I still walk through back doors and bars. Yeah. It's not because I'm quote unquote a musician.
It's more because, oh, it's fucking jelly.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I've been running through the back door of that bar since.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
You had a knock on it and a worker had to let you in.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I've been doing that shit forever.
And when we did Neighborhood Eats out there, we had like a bunch of hot chicken places
that we went to kind of ran the, uh, from Hattie B's down to like the local spots or whatever. But, uh, when we asked you what spot could we link up with you? Cause it was one
of the last couple that we went to, you were super thoughtful about it. And you were like,
I want something that kind of represents a different part inside of the city that people
normally see. And you're like, I, I, you intentionally wanted something black owned.
You're like, what's a black ownedowned business where we could, you know,
go and kind of showcase and bring, like, a positive spotlight on that?
Which I was like, damn, like, he really didn't have to go that deep with it
thoughtfully.
Like, he could have just put us onto wherever.
I thought that was a very, very cool side of the city that you showed us.
No, dude, it was awesome, too.
Big Shake still appreciates it, by the way.
I still go in there and get a free shrimp burger because of that episode.
Every time I walk in Big Shake, it's like, good to see you.
I remember his son served us that day.
Yes, yes, dude.
His son served us.
He'd be like, good to see you again, Charlie.
He'd be like, you want a shrimp burger?
I'd be like, yes, sir.
I'd be standing in the back of the line.
They'd whip me up a shrimp burger, dude.
So, fuck, thank y'all, too, because that show was smoking hot.
It was incredible, bro.
But, yeah, you just shown us.
And they light you up.
That is like the hot chicken is no joke, dude.
No, it's fucking, it's our thing, man.
For sure, for sure.
And for me, it was like, one, bring light on a small business.
Two, bring light on a small black-owned business.
Because I think we talked about it on the show, but Nashville's hot chicken was like, it has just been commercialized beyond recognition.
It's like, if you want real hot chicken, you got to damn near go somewhere you don't feel safe.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, for real, for real.
You know what I mean?
It's like, you know, that's like how soul food is.
You got to already be sweating before you have to.
Yeah, for sure.
You got to pull up a little tight.
It's got to be a strip mall or something.
You know, you got to be like, yo, this ain't it.
But you go to a standalone place with a line outside,
you're at the wrong hot chicken spot.
You need a place that you go inside and the line's wrapped the room three times even bolton's duty bolton's uh and we went when so we didn't get to eat bolton's when we were there
because mr bolton had just passed away or something like that it was super sad but then i went back
because i was like i need to go here because it just feels like it should feel and i think i had
to like throw it out three quarters of the way in dude i was just like pouring sweat like i was about to take my shirt off and yes that's the local shit princes boltons
big shakes 400 degrees helens yeah 400 destroyed me too yeah fuck hattie b
they're doing good enough where it's like they really don't need my cosign yeah for sure yeah
one of helen's hot chicken could use a little jelly love but yeah hattie b's will probably
still clip this fuck you too i see me getting tweeted i'm glad i'm not picking on wendy's I'm serious. Helen's hot chicken could use a little jelly love. Yeah. Hattie Beasle probably still clipped this.
Fuck you too.
I see me getting tweeted.
I'm glad I'm not picking on Wendy's.
They're fucking hard on Twitter.
Are they?
Wendy's is the best follow on Twitter.
Really?
Yes.
Do you fuck with Twitter for real or is somebody running your Twitter?
No, I run my Twitter.
Because you strike me as the guy that would have found the Wendy's Twitter by now.
I need to find it.
My Twitter algorithm is destroyed right now.
Like Wendy's the chain?
Dog.
Like the birds?
Would you pull this shit up?
He's even deeper on Twitter than I am, bro.
No, I see it.
I don't-
Wendy's fucking fires into people's ass.
It is-
Listen, man.
I can't believe they haven't got sued or in trouble
for some of the stuff that I've seen them tweet back at people.
Good for Wendy, bro.
Shout out Dave Thomas, bro.
Are you reading some of them?
Someone tweeted it.
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damn wendy's a savage what a crazy bitch that wendy is dude we gotta keep an eye on her
one of them commented something another shane commented something and wendy's commented your
mom's a hoe damn to like kfc i'm not making this up it's crazy to me that their social media is
not policed dude good on them the best hire they've ever made is a
company yeah you need some crazy shit like that bro dude so uh what's uh as as you're like kind
of skyrocketing right now is everything's like happening so fast around you um what have you
been doing for uh for you well it's funny you bring it up. We talk about all these old stories. I have laid off of the nose nachos.
Got off the nose nachos this year.
I see it in your skin.
You're glowing right now.
Why, thank you, dude.
I'm not drinking.
I'm smoking a lot of pot, but I'm not drinking.
I'm drinking, but now it's like real celebrating drinking.
Yeah.
That night you seen me out drinking is how I used to drink six nights a week.
Yeah.
Now I do that once every three weeks where it's like something really big will happen like
Like when your album
comes out.
Yeah, like my album
comes out at midnight.
I do Good Morning America
tomorrow so probably
Friday, tomorrow night
I got a Saturday clear
I'm probably going to go.
Oh shit, your album
comes out at midnight?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't know that.
So by the time this comes out
my album's out now.
Why the hell are you
with us right now?
I'm here trying to tell
I'm beating the drum
but I got to get to the club now.
I'm telling you
no, this is it baby.
You're here? Your album comes out in six hours? That's why I'm telling you, no. This is it, baby. You're here.
The album comes out in six hours.
That's why I told you this dude is the man.
He is the fucking man.
He'll pull up.
He'll just pull up on some regular show.
That's crazy.
I just want to come hang.
He's the fucking man.
I love y'all's pot anyway.
I want to come check.
It's just fucking crazy, dude.
He's just the nicest and fucking most down-to-earth, successful person I've ever met.
It's preposterous.
You need to get an ego, dude. You need to get an ego,
dude.
You need to get an ego.
Success is still so new to me.
I don't really believe it.
Yeah,
it's so weird.
It's crazy.
Dude,
if I had an album coming out fucking
six hours from now,
I'd be in my room
pacing around
to be like,
don't put it out.
It sucks.
No,
I've been doing that
for the last six weeks.
I'm committed now.
Now I just got to fall.
If it's going to blow,
I just got to do it publicly.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, you got to get that shit I just gotta do it publicly I guess you know what I'm saying
yeah
yeah you gotta get that shit out
the good news is
I spent a lot of time writing it
so I feel alright
it'll be good
I'm more nervous about
having to wake up in the morning
and see what
what are you gonna check first
that's if you happen to sleep tonight
no I won't check anything
I'm gonna have to go to fucking
I gotta try to get some sleep
so I can sing decent
I gotta sing at like
6, 7 a.m.
oh my god
oh shit so you're doing
Good Morning America and you're singing?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm singing.
I think we're going to chat and then we're going to sing.
And then I'm doing Good Morning 3 and I'm doing Nightline.
Damn.
What the fuck, dude?
Well, you know, ABC just put the documentary out on me.
Are you familiar with this on Hulu?
No.
Yo, so check this out.
You got a full doc on you?
Full doc.
ABC News.
It's the number one trending thing on Hulu right now.
I'm really proud of this.
This is big.
It's my whole life story, Ron. You got to check. For real. I will. It's an hour and a half. What's it called? It's the number one trending thing on Hulu right now. I'm really proud of this. This is big. It's my whole life story, Ron.
You got to check, for real.
I will.
It's an hour and a half.
What's it called?
But the next time you fly for one of your weekends.
Yeah, yeah.
What's it called?
I'll watch this shit tonight.
It's called Jell-O Save Me.
Bro, I mean, like, the videos of that,
because Save Me is a song of yours, bro,
and the videos of that, like,
there's, like, fucking viral clips of, like,
fucking, you know, seven, eight-year-olds singing that song to you, like fucking viral clips of like fucking you know seven eight year olds
singing that song to you like breaking down crying like the most emotional we get to see like the
party side of you we get to see the comedic side of you but there is like for sure this like very
human side of you and i think that's got to be the number one reason why your music resonates
because like it will be touching people to like a very personal level it's fucking dope to see that shit it has to be dope to feel it well it's
saying thank you for real it's real music for real people with real problems it's just what i
like it's kind of the willie nelson thing y'all ever get into willie yeah yeah so i'm sorry i
didn't mean to overlook you wrong but i just my spirit said you don't know much about Willie. Talk to this boy faster.
You're not lying.
You wouldn't get it.
So Willie Nelson is like, he's like the most famous hippie weed smoker from the outlaw country movement.
Long braid.
You've seen the pictures.
I mean, clearly.
Of course, I know from his weed smoking.
You know who Willie Nelson is.
This is the cool thing about Willie.
You probably know more about Willie Nelson than me by a lot.
You know about his weed smoking.
You know about his public image.
He's real jovial.
His interviews were always hilarious.
Yeah.
Music, very sad.
Very sad.
Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain, one of his biggest songs.
My heroes have always been cowboy.
They're still out again.
My heroes have always been cowboy.
They still are today.
His shit is just like this old, sad, country, western music he made.
Even his up-tempo shit was still, roll me up and smoke me when I die.
He just had these fucking wild songs.
And I felt like that was something I always modeled after.
I loved that his personality was so bubbly, but his music was so haunting.
Yeah.
And I feel like that's kind of a part of my thing,
you know, is that my wife always says music's where my demons are exercised.
Like if I'm in a really tense place in my wife life,
my wife's not like,
Hey,
you should go see a therapist or,
Hey,
you should take a day to your self care.
She's like,
you need to go write a song.
She's like,
you've been doing too much media.
You've been doing too much.
You haven't been doing that thing you do.
Just go.
Because I write a lot of songs for me.
Like real selfish shit.
Like pick up a guitar and just write me something.
Yeah.
Some shit I'd never play for nobody.
You know what I mean?
Like I'm a real weirdo.
That's awesome.
No, that fucking rules.
When you do something like that, is it like first line is exactly how you feel in that
moment?
Or are you looking for like an analogy or are you looking for like a bar or something or is it just like uh spilling
what you're feeling immediately it's more like looking for the analogy because that's my way
of working around the problem as well yeah you know what i mean it's like where is the where
is the catch in this like how do i
make this make sense because it don't make sense that i feel this way so how can i make this make
sense and that becomes like a puzzle piece and for me it's like in the in the world of battle
rapping that i did by fair share it out of my younger years was it's always the good trick to
battling and you know this if you're really freestyling like you know y'all are y'all's
era has been way more pin driven but in our era we didn't know that was a thing for
battling right like freestyle you clowned someone for writing something yeah for sure like you showed
up with notes for a fucking battle you're talking about what hat i'm wearing right now but the trick
to freestyle battling for me was as long as you're the two bars ahead the next line as long as you
know what you're gonna rhyme with as long as i know what i'm rhyming and it's hard and i know that's the joke i can almost even if i get
lost in it i'll just keep going to that rhyme scheme or those compound syllables until i get
to what i know the punch line is you know what i'm saying it's like you know you get that right
it's like it's almost like speaking a different language like when you're speaking a language you
have to have two lines of thought in your head so So it's like the things that you're saying,
but also like,
if you're trying to get to water bottles,
like I've hit,
hit a lot of throttles or something like that is water bottle.
You want to get to that certain point.
Yeah,
exactly.
If I'm looking at you at face at one stare and it's a big dude.
And I want to say,
you look like a dumpster with a grill.
You know what I mean?
All the,
uh,
fuck,
uh,
fuck.
It's how I feel. You know what I'm saying? Nothing isn't real. You know what I mean all the uh fuck uh fuck it's how i feel yeah you know what i'm
saying nothing isn't real yeah you know what i mean all that shit will come i just know what
the big one is and even if that other shit don't make a lot of sense nobody cares as long as the
dumpster with the grill comes out across the way i think it is yeah we're fucking in they're loving
that yeah you know damn that's so sick that you were fucking battle rapping like that yeah and
the fact that you i mean it's super technical but the fact that you're taking compound rhymes into fucking uh like
country music is like kind of a cool thing yeah i know it sounds real simplistic but my hip-hop
buddies called me immediately it was like oh this is dope this is different you're the first person
that called me on it who's that schultz really i played schultz a record probably three four years
ago and it's one of my first singing songs and And he was like, yo, I caught the way you were hitting it.
I was like, damn, Schultz, look at you, baby.
Yeah.
Little hip hop head.
Hey, you're hitting your little thing.
Can I hit my little thing, too?
You can hit your little thing, yes.
What?
This is your space, bro.
The fact we had the Pink Whitney bottles if you need them, bro.
We had the fucking-
I got to admire your fucking self-control if i
knew i was gonna be drinking at midnight i would be drinking at fucking 4 p.m for sure he's locked
in though bro this guy's a fucking ultra you're on the media tour right now i'm just this is my
first media tour for sure how has it been it's been a lot of fun it's just you know stressful
a lot of but i i'm very grateful for every opportunity i've been I, I want to come back and do it again for the more loose.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like I want to come to this building to do it all.
And I want to go do some of that.
I want to do flagrant.
Yeah.
I want to do,
uh,
um,
a Chris DiStefano shit.
Yeah.
And I want to do,
I want to do the homie shit.
Totally.
It sucked.
It was the first time I've ever been to LA that I didn't do fighter in the
kid or nothing with shop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Normally I at least get with Theo or shop or Bert. You know what i mean yeah first time but i was out there doing
idol yeah all right well so you we talked about the comedy stuff a little bit a while ago but you
clearly are very well connected i mean like just from like the comedians that i know everyone
talks about songs five years ago you're very connected with comedians how did you get so
connected with them just from being a fan going going to the club, being a fan.
Just, you know, fuck, man.
I'm not, I'm still from the era where I'm not embarrassed to say I'm a fan.
Yeah.
So is that all tied back to Zanies?
It was cool.
I told my publicist who y'all were.
She was like, hey, Barstool's got this thing, a boy dad, son of a boy dad podcast.
I was like, yo, that's my boy.
So I was like, let's ask, watch it wrong.
Where was my homie?
I said, I sent her the clip from the other shit you know what i mean it's like you know like
i'm not embarrassed to say i'm a fan yeah so i just wasn't embarrassed to pop you know how
the zany's green room is yeah it's a trap for y'all that's the only thing i don't like about
that green room for comedians is you don't got a choice whoever comes to that side door is just
busting in there and saying dude we were talking about that i've walked in on so many strangers
all the time yeah but that's kind of what makes it so cool, too.
You know what I mean?
It's a fun-
I bet they appreciate the crossover.
I bet they're like, oh, there's musicians that are coming to see us.
I bet that they can appreciate your line of work and you being successful without the kind of guarded competitiveness that sometimes probably comedians feel about comedians or artists feel about other artists.
It's always flattering to at least
to me when people outside of anybody for the record i'm still happy when musicians show up too
but well like if a comedian shows up to my concert or an athlete or something that shit sticks with
you differently that's the big one athletes got athletes i want to listen yeah if an athlete shows
up you're like yeah i'm cool oh that's it dude it's it's the moment it's like dude I had some of my
fighter homies
come out to my
Miami show
and I just felt
like the fucking dude
yeah exactly
I was like
it's totally different
it's like those guys
were not losers ever
those guys always
were cool
always
were always cool
yeah I was a loser
we were all losers
that's how you found
fucking what you found
and you found your thing
and I found my shit
because we sucked
and it's like
those dudes never sucked
I never thought of it that way.
You're so right.
They were always fucking awesome.
And you're like,
now they like me.
This is the best ever.
Yeah.
We played Tampa.
Well, we didn't play Tampa.
Morgan Wallen's tour was in Tampa
and I was passing through Tampa
on my way to Dallas or something.
And I was coming from South Florida
and I stopped to sing with Ernest
because Ernest is opening up his tour.
Yeah.
Bailey Zimmerman, Ernest.
And about half of the Tampa Bay Lightning,
which I don't watch a lot of hockey,
but I watched enough to know who Stammers was.
And you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
I watched enough to know who the fuck
was walking up the shit.
And those are cool bros too.
Hockey bros.
Yeah, for sure.
And they look like it too.
They walk in, look like how,
like I love when a music band walks in.
Yeah.
It's just different.
Yeah.
You just feel the difference. You just see a bunch of denim and leather and shit
yeah it's a thing and i watched them dudes come and i was like oh this is cool yeah
back hair back it was awesome i was i was happy for morgan and he's so big he probably didn't
know they were there yeah it's crazy bro he's's massive, dude. I'm so happy for him.
He's just doing so much.
They're loving him.
Full-blown fucking professional football style.
Oh, I'd get so happy I fucking could cry.
Nothing makes me happier than seeing a motherfucker just win.
You know what I'm saying?
Just old-school win.
How do you keep that instinct, though?
How do you silence any instinct that's like, man these dudes you know what i mean like i wasn't i wasn't when i was incarcerated
i watched people get bitter about people having release dates yeah and you know how you watch
something the more than i've ever learned how i want who i wanted to be in life i learned who i
didn't want to be who i became was just a series of me learned who I didn't want to be. Who I became was just a series of me
watching shit I didn't want to be like.
Not like him.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
You watch that dude and you're like,
man, what a fucking hater, dude.
That dude's going home.
Yeah.
And of course, I had a wrong mindset then.
I was a little selfish.
I was like, he might even answer the phone,
make a three-way call for us.
He might send some money back.
Like, fuck, this is awesome.
This dude's getting out.
Like, yo, take him to your number.
You know what I mean?
It's like,
and I watched dudes
would get bitter,
and I was like,
I never want to be like that.
And that was because
I went to jail the first time
when I was like 14.
I went to juvenile,
and you'd see it there,
motherfuckers.
Well, he could have released him.
If a motherfucker's mentality
of somebody getting free
is how'd he get out of his case?
That was a black dude.
What a fucking hater.
If anything fucking,
no, that was not.
You fuck.
You motherfucker. I hate you. I was just making an observation. You're going, no, that was not. You fuck. You motherfucker.
I hate you.
I was just making an observation. You're going to hell.
That's not an observation.
He's going to hell, bro.
He's going to hell.
Do it in the white voice.
Do it in the white voice.
That's my stupid voice.
All right?
That's not.
My black voice is totally different.
I'll give you an example.
No.
You're not fucking me off. you're not fucking me on this
sasquatch fucking shit i want to do this for ron i was worried about
i was like i hope he's got covid or something and it's just ron needs me to co-host
oh my god i'm fucking her out i'm kidding I love you No he's a bad person
He's a bad person bro
We know what the fuck time it is
You're not gonna be bitter
You're happy for his success
Dude he's trying to drag you down
He's trying to bring you down
To his level bro
Don't fight on his level
I'm happy for you
God I loved it
I like the homies featured
I'm like
I'm getting more excited
It's like it's in the fucking family
And then you're fucking
Turned out to be a douche canoe Yes little excited. It's like it's in the fucking family. And then you fucking turn out to be a deuce canoe.
That sucks, dude.
It's terrible.
But yeah, just never be a hater.
Simple.
It's great.
Yeah, exactly.
Sass learned something.
Yeah, Sass.
I'm not a hater.
I love everybody.
Yeah, for sure.
Now, I am a hater.
I do got to change my ways.
No, fuck.
He does.
He's on his way up.
He's going to get through it, though.
That's the first step, though.
You admit it.
No, I have been.
I mean, no one knows.
I've been practicing positiveness for everything.
I find a positive outcome in everything.
All right.
He's trying to convince himself, dude.
No, I do.
I'm not nearly as much of a hater as I was like a year or two ago.
God, look at the growth, dude.
Imagine in two years, bro.
Two years from now, you you're gonna be cheering for people
yeah i am yay that guy did good yeah dude so what do you want for yourself bro what's uh
what what's like the next uh couple years look like for you sass is gonna give up hate what
are you gonna fucking uh what are you gonna pick up for yourself bro what are you gonna
what are you gonna boss them into uh as you go forward, bro.
He has the way of asking a really real question in the most not real way.
It's so awesome. Just, yeah, throwing my boy under the bus so I can ask a real question.
I think I just, you know, I just want to keep making music that helps people, man.
It's like the cool thing now is it's just trying to get the message out there.
Like all the jokes are cool. All the antics are cool. All is it's just trying to get the message out there. Like all the jokes are cool.
All the antics are cool.
All that shit's cool.
But what I think really matters in my world specifically, I boiled it down.
It's getting people to the music.
Yeah.
Because it might not be for you, but I promise you it's for somebody.
Yeah.
And who that's for, it means a lot to them.
That's one thing I love about who I am as an artist.
People aren't on the fence with me.
They either like fuck with me or they don't.
They just go, no, it's not my thing.
But fuck, he's a great guy.
That's cool, too.
I don't take that offensive.
I think that's awesome.
Yeah.
But I promise you, somebody feels the total different way.
And even somebody on your phone might need this music and you don't even know it.
You know what I mean?
Because I think that's what the music does when you really boil down the songs of mine that have really connected the most you know what
i mean because the shit i get is like real shit like yeah they played your shit at a funeral
yesterday shit you know what i mean like kind of that shit so i just want to keep pointing people
to the music because fuck dude i made it now fuck i definitely i definitely you know fuck money don't
matter no more yeah this dude is dude is rich. It's like,
fuck,
I own my masters.
I stayed independent all the way through it.
Even when I signed the deal,
I kept the masters.
That's fucking awesome. I kept the major,
major.
We gonna be rich forever.
Yeah,
for sure.
Yeah.
For 100%.
Yeah.
It's like,
fuck,
I can't,
I couldn't,
you know,
it would take multiple heroin addictions and relapses to fuck this off in the next 20,
30 years.
You know what I'm saying?
Even then we put you on the conservatorship, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Britney time. Yeah. 100%. heroin addictions and relapses to fuck this off in the next 20 30 years you know what i'm saying
even then we put you on the conservatorship bro you're on britney time you're yeah we'll figure
it out we'll figure it out dude well whatever happens bro we're gonna be rooting so fucking
hard for you bro you definitely have won over our whole audience and i sure hope so i love y'all
fuck i'm one of y'all i listen i got one got one more question. All right. So you said that there's a lot of songs you write for yourself.
What separates those songs with you being like, this is for me?
Is it just like something too personal?
Or is it like this song couldn't help anyone else except for me?
Yeah, I think that's sometimes it too, is that if I thought it could help a lot of other
people, I'd still release it.
Sometimes it's too personal.
Sometimes it's just a thought I needed to get out right then,
and it ain't worth chasing down a full song.
And then sometimes, you know how life is in the music business, man.
I know this might sound weird.
And I don't know, maybe you can compare this
and make me feel better about it in your world.
But sometimes shit don't make shit just because it's too close to something else.
Yeah, 100%.
Like you could have, I don't know if you could have a really good joke
about this and this, but they just.
Oh, totally. They said Sash have a, I don't know if you could have a really good joke about this and this, but they just, Oh, totally.
They said Sass, like,
stole a joke
because it had a similar premise
to something that, like,
John Mulaney said at some point.
They're like, oh, well,
and then, so he, like,
You don't need to be bringing all that up.
But that's the exact same,
it's definitely what you're talking about.
I'm assuming this interview
is getting a lot of views.
No, no, no.
So anyway,
Sass is verbatim stealing jokes.
Bar for bar, word for word.
No, I did not steal.
All right, pull the clip up of John Mulaney's one and he is now.
Please not steal any jokes.
No, but he deleted all the shit offline because it was too close.
No, it's still there.
It's fully there still.
It was a joke about me, my thought process while a girl is walking in front of me yeah and i was like i'm
paranoid walking home in the dark because i'm paranoid that she's paranoid that i'm following
her yeah and then apparently john mulaney had a bit about following a girl on a subway yeah and
it was like well those are pretty common thoughts yeah we you know in our world the ed sharon lawsuit
was really big for us yeah marvin gaye shit it was really big
because when we lost the blurred lines lawsuit and i say we i mean like for writers and creatives
because any one of those lawsuits can go in a way in which it could change the paradigm of music
forever if enough of those lawsuits start getting the cracks and people start feeling like they own
grooves and rhythms and chord progressions building blocksions, yeah. Building blocks and music.
I mean, it could fuck us all.
So I watched that intently.
But I've also realized that there are 50,000 people a year
that moves to Nashville to be a songwriter.
Yeah.
I am naive to think the most creative song I think of right now
that somebody else isn't writing.
No, I agree with that.
Dude, I mean, every thought has been thought.
For sure.
Nothing new is under the sun, per Solomon, even back in the Bible.
Right.
So it's like, for me, it's in that space.
And sometimes I'll hear stuff and I'll be like, that's too close or too conceptually.
Or sometimes I'll fuck myself.
Like, I'll have two really good songs about a similar subject so similar.
I'm like, I can't put them both out.
So sometimes that shit will sit for two years and I'll double it back on an
album later.
I'll be like,
Oh man,
you remember that old record?
Fuck.
Let's blow the dust off that and see if it works now that it's not sitting
right next to the other song that sounded.
Yeah.
And that gets into weird timing stuff.
Like songs in six,
eight,
that specific timing,
the way that beat swings.
I don't care how different you think you are.
Don't motherfuckers.
I'm going to start sounding like sooner than later,
dude.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
There's only so many ways to get in that groove.
You know what I mean?
Certain.
So that's just specific time signature.
Yeah,
for sure.
It's such a specific thing that you're just like,
you get lost.
So sometimes I'll have songs where it's like,
ah,
I was too many six eights on this album.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Just weird shit.
Kind of what happens to,s on this album. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's just weird shit. Kind of what happened to DaBaby.
Yeah.
A lot of his music started sounding exactly the same.
Yeah.
And I think him feeding it to us at the rate he was at the time didn't help.
Yeah.
He also said all those nasty things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
He's a bad,
bad boy on stage with a live microphone,
no edit button.
Yeah.
Listen,
radio,
live show killer is what he called himself.
I swear, that was his thing.
Yeah, you'll be good as long as Elton John doesn't come for you.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
He's an incredible live entertainer, too.
Y'all seen him live?
No, but I mean, dude, his music is good as fuck.
He's a standout guy.
But I think he just needs to take some time off.
Yeah.
Are different artists' voice textures lean?
Like Morgan's got that kind of voice that I don't think I could get sick of hearing it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Where it's like other artists have that voice that's so special.
Like even Adele.
I think Adele cycles every two years, but this is me guessing.
I don't know Adele, even though I love you, Adele.
I will say I think she cycles because her thing is she knows that her voice is so big
and so impactful.
You know what I mean?
That you can only,
it just,
it just,
it's like a style.
It's such a style that you just,
you wait for it to come back.
And every time it blows your mind again,
cause you're a little bit,
forget about it.
And you're like,
Oh shit,
I forgot.
She still had it like that.
It just happened. Take it easy on me baby i was like oh my god i forgot
you're the best you're the fucking best you know what i mean it's like and she can do that every
three years the rest of her life yeah it's where some art is gonna age beautifully with her she's
gonna be able to fucking croon like aretha franklin as long as she's got the i know
she had vocal surgery so as long as she's taking care of that voice she'll do that yeah what do
you think about like uh like frank ocean someone who's only put out like two albums i love it here's
my thing about music i love both sides of this i love artists like jelly roll who come on here and
tell you about every bad decision he made on cocaine. The best.
Right?
Thank you.
Thank you.
I love artists that are just like, this is who I am all the time.
And I love artists like The Weeknd, who I've seen do one interview in his whole career.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
You don't even know what his voice sounds like.
I was four, five albums into The Weeknd before I heard his speaking voice.
Yeah, totally.
You don't know.
You don't know.
I had no clue.
Don't know anything about this guy.
I know.
I love every song he's ever put out ever.
And the mystery helps his aura.
It helps his aura.
I'm afraid.
And my thing is,
I'm afraid if he came,
I'm afraid I've heard behind the scenes,
he's the sweetest guy on earth and he's a really down to earth dude.
And if I met that dude,
I would love that.
And I hope that's who he is.
But as a fan,
I also hope he's just a complete fucking space cadet drug addict.
Yeah.
Fucking five girls a day.
You know what I'm saying?
That's what I fucking hope.
You know what I mean?
Because that's the way I picture the weekend.
Yeah.
But I know he's,
you know,
but,
and he's done a good job at that.
And that's what makes,
and I love both sides.
I love,
I love all that shit in music.
I think that's what makes music so cool.
And I think it's,
fuck dude,
I always could parallel stuff, Andrew Schultz hates it, but I love it. Where it's like, I love all that shit in music. I think that's what makes music so cool. Yeah. And I think that, fuck, dude, I always could parallel stuff Andrew Schultz hates, but I love it.
Where it's like, I see the same thing in comedy, right?
Where it's like, you have guys like Bert Kreischer, who wake up, and I love Bert.
He's one of my top five comedians on earth.
Yeah. And he wakes up and tells you his morning bowel movements, and you follow what he goes through all day, every day.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you have guys like Attell.
Yeah. The white whale. Who's, every day. Yeah, yeah. And then you have guys like Attell. Yeah.
The white whale.
Who's just a mystery.
Just a mystery.
But you know when he comes, he's killing.
Yeah.
He's just slinking around back hours.
When you see him, you're just like, oh, he's fitting a murder.
Yeah.
Like, oh, these people have no clue.
He's the best ever.
Yeah, for sure.
Because like casual fans don't know him and I watch him walk up and I'll be like, oh,
it's over.
I have no clue.
Yeah.
He's in the onus place.
It is kind of cool.
It is cool that like, mean he is he's he's kind of mainstream like people like comedy every
comedy fan on earth knows david tell us but like well see comedy's going mainstream yeah exactly
but like average like people going to a comedy show they don't all know who david tell is then
he goes in and he just fucking rips up the room. No, and he's so unassuming.
So it's like,
I love all that shit.
I think that's part
of the magic of artistry.
I think that's what
makes this shit so cool.
It's like your boy over here
who hadn't said anything
or pulled anything up
at all.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I mean?
I love this guy.
What are you doing?
I'm sure he's a fucking hoot.
You know what I'm saying?
Is he sending emails
or press releases?
He's taking notes.
Okay, cool.
No, he's busting his ass, bro. He's busting his ass, bro.
He's busting his ass.
No, bro.
We got a good squad in here, bro.
I know, but you're like a 30 deep guy.
I love that Sass is actually laughing.
Yeah, frying up mook is the latest Sass' art.
I can't wait to hear it.
You said earlier about how good this is.
I love this guy, man.
Yeah, mook's the man.
Bro, well, dude, we had you for a half an hour, and we've already ripped an hour.
So, bro, appreciate you so much, dude.
I know you have fucking big ass fucking fish to fry.
Dude, I know you have fucking big ass fucking fish to fry, but the fact that you like make time for us and like a podcast like this is like totally indicative of what a guy you are.
So please, please don't change. Your humility about your podcast is indicative of who you are as well, my friend.
The fact that you came in here five hours before your album comes out is insane.
And before Good Morning America, your next people you're going to talk to
is like Hoda or whatever.
Good Morning America.
That shit is insane.
I'll tell you where I just was
when we get off camera.
Oh, fuck yeah.
About as crazy.
Epstein Island?
Yeah.
I deserve that.
Thank you, brother.
I love you, bro.
What's the name of the album, bro?
Oh, yeah.
Can I plug it?
Which one's my camera?
Let me do my own thing.
If I'm going to sell it, let me sell it. Hey, everybody. My name is Jelly Roll. I'm from Nashville, Tennessee. I love you, bro. What's the name of the album, bro? Oh, yeah. Can I plug it? Which one's my camera? Let me do my own thing. If I'm going to sell it, let me sell it.
Hey, everybody.
My name is Jelly Roll.
I'm from Nashville, Tennessee.
I love you.
Even if you don't love me, I love you.
Jellyroll615.com.
Jellyroll615 on all social media.
Wits at Chapel is available on all streaming services now.
We are still trending as of today.
Not sure when this comes out on Hulu for the documentary.
Jelly Roll saved me.
It's 90 minutes.
It's my entire life story.
I'm obviously biased,
but I think it's incredible.
Check it out.
Thanks for giving me
that platform, y'all.
Fuck yeah.
Let's fucking go, bro.
Love y'all, boys.
Love you, Roan, for real.
Love you, Sass.
I love Roan more,
but I'm learning to love you.