Son of a Boy Dad - LAUNDRY DAY | Son of a Boy Dad #180
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Big baby skiv.
Baby.
Yes, big baby.
Yeah, we got to relax.
And our special guest, Josh Peck is here.
It's a vacant number to Josh.
I want it so bad for you, though. It's going vacant number to Josh I want it so bad for you though
It's gonna happen
That photo is gonna be insane
It always says Josh Peck
That's just his guy
Yeah we gotta get you Josh Peck
It would have been the nicest gift if we just had Josh Peck on ice
He does that?
He has like a rate for like surprise
A bit of a surprise
Josh Peck being an Oppenheimer is always a fucking.
I was just about to say that.
Shock.
He's the guy that blows up the bomb.
Is he really?
Yeah.
He's the guy that runs the test.
He presses the button?
Yeah, he presses the button.
I think he is that guy, actually.
That was Peck?
I didn't even notice it when I was watching it.
It's so out of nowhere.
Isn't Roderick in it, too?
No, Roderick was in.
He is.
Is he? Is he in something else? Yes, Roderick was in... He is. Is he?
Is he in something else?
Yes, Roderick is.
I'm getting a nod that Roderick...
I don't know what...
I don't remember what he's in.
He's a part of Oppenheimer.
Drake Bell was in it too, I think.
No.
I think Drake Bell is...
Something new is coming out
about Drake Bell.
Yeah, wasn't there
like some pedophilia?
Yeah.
Nickelodeon.
Dan Schneider.
There's a new...
Oh yeah, Dan Schneider.
Surviving Drake Bell. Dan Schneider. There's a new Dan Schneider. Surviving
Drake Bell.
Groomed.
Surviving
Groomed or grooming?
Groomed.
Yeah.
He was the victim.
Yeah.
Sort of an MJ
kind of
pass it forward situation.
The Drake Bell story.
Because I think that
Dan Schneider used to make
him and
like Amanda Bynes
like
Fuck.
Yeah, for him.
Not even It's not even funny really it's like i wrote that theme song
should we start a set of sauce ass i don't know if we i don't know if we i don't know if that's
in it or not but we'll see it's a little drink does it work like does it get cut around like
that what do you mean oh well we just haven't we haven't officially started but if you guys want to
cut something we can cut anything i'm just genuinely curious like does it just go raw like
oh yeah it'll just be raw yeah yeah we don't really have segments or launch all right welcome
back to the son of a boy dad podcast today it is wednesday march 6th i believe you're here live from the old
yak studio and we're here with laundry day wow i'm gonna clap i kind of want to clap
i want to kind of clap honestly this is our first podcast ever really really first ever podcast
first time being on the ones and twos? Yeah.
It's an honor to start here, I will say.
This is like top level.
I don't know if we're going to... This is definitely not top level, but we appreciate that.
One of my friends, I'm going to shout him out right away.
Joe is a big listener, you guys.
And he was listening.
Fuck yeah.
Just caught you guys talking about us.
Oh yeah.
Flipped out to me and that was really cool. Thank you for of course we airplayed it to the tv we were kind of watching the clip he gave us the time stamp we just oh yeah that's
what you got to do you just x out as soon as the time stamp ended yeah yeah yeah it was a pretty
funny i i was giving them a tour of the office and they were kind of
geeking out and they saw like the big case of body armor and they were like no way you get one of
these i was like man if you guys like this you should have been here when big cat was yeah a lot
more going on a lot more goodies
thank you yeah of course no it was a pleasure pleasure to suck you guys off on the pod.
It was like we're legitimately big fans of you guys.
And it kind of seems like you guys are having a moment.
Like, I feel like we're not even the only ones sucking you guys off right now.
Drake's kind of sucking you.
There's a lot of head.
There's a lot of head.
Oh, yeah.
You guys were on.
You guys were.
Would Drake post you guys on his story or some shit yeah well we can tell the story honestly
that was a great night um get this for some clips i think well he posted us on his story but two
days before i was just walking into my girlfriend's room and i checked instagram and i just see
champagne poppy followed he's like hell yeah like for anyone who doesn't know, like we're obsessed.
Like we waited to listen to For All the Dogs till it came out.
We waited not that night.
The next morning we were all on tour.
We hopped in the van, ran the whole thing through like notes, giving opinions about everything.
What kind of notes?
What notes?
You're giving drizzy notes?
We were just saying like, oh, I like like this is a little bit more of a flow bum.
Like maybe there's less bars and there was sort of like a darkly in depth.
We were in it.
We were in the weeds with this album.
Aubrey's beat selection.
He followed us.
He assured us so much.
Exactly.
He followed us, and I almost had a heart attack.
Jam texting everybody, like, Jake Follower, Jake Follower.
Yeah, yeah.
We all got on FaceTime.
Everyone kind of realized.
And then Henry was like, we have to message him.
And then we go to our DM and he had already messaged us.
And he had a lot of love on our song.
We had a whole conversation with him.
I mean, it was just like...
Let's read it word for word.
Which song specifically?
Called Crazy Stupid Love.
Yep.
Which is just like...
You and Drake.
It was just like a random song on our album.
And he literally told us that like,
he's been seeing our tech talks.
Things were really funny.
And then saw a video of one of our actual songs.
And I was like,
wait,
these guys make music.
That's kind of literally what happened on this podcast with you guys.
So it's funny that Drake just scrolls tech talk.
Oh,
literally.
He was like,
so online.
I don't want to like call him out, but he was like yeah my boys like send me your shit
and it just sounded like i was texting henry yeah that's hilarious that's crazy yeah also like it
was the blueprint of like a lot of people have been like oh you guys are a band you're making
music like it's funny that you guys are on tiktok but like what how does it really like how are you
gonna make it all connect back to your music and we'd always been like no just trust us like
whatever we're just gonna keep having fun and then drake was like sort of like the control like like How are you going to make it all connect back to your music? And we'd always been like, no, just trust us. Whatever.
We're just going to keep having fun.
And then Drake was sort of like the control, the test of like, that's exactly what we would hope anybody to go through.
It's like, just see a funny video and then whatever, either the next day or you scroll
right after and like, oh, there's an actual song.
So it worked out pretty well with him.
Accidental marketing strategy.
Exactly.
Going as planned.
Yeah.
Did you guys have a following before the funny videos started taking off?
Not like we do all of a sudden.
Yeah.
But you guys were still, like, touring and stuff?
Yeah.
We've been a band since we were in high school.
So, we met in 2016 at Beacon High School, not far from here.
And we became a band, like, second semester of freshman year.
And by junior year, we're touring.
Oh, shit. In high school, you year we're touring oh shit in high school you were touring we're touring in high school and like by senior year like missed most of school
yeah i was gonna say how did that work it was crazy um and then we graduated in 2020 which
sucked for everybody um oh yeah did you guys have to do a real spaced out graduation ceremony
i was in bed i was on oh really it was zoom had it on the big screen yeah it was pretty
lit toshi had a nice speech roshi who was about tori oh she yeah she's about sorry i just want
to get oh shout out toshi toshi holy shit big ups to toshi five minutes total and then right back in
bed i was like pretty tough boom instead of walking across the stage we all could submit like these
essentially a vine of whatever you wanted, a six second clip.
Oh, damn.
And I remember mine was, I had a basketball hoop in my backyard and I just took the deepest three ever.
Hell yeah.
I missed.
Oh, no.
It was just sort of me walking off into the sunset and there was 500 of those.
I'm a wine gardener, so I sort of tapped out through V in anticipation for the W.
I got back on, but it was a pretty lame ceremony.
Can I ask you guys a quick question about Beacon High School?
I used to tutor in New York, and I got to know the schools pretty well.
My impression of Beacon was that it was the school you have to take a very specific test for Beacon,
but it is technically a public school, right?
Yeah, I don't know how it's evolved over time. For us, it is a public school right yeah yeah i don't know how
it's evolved over time for us it is a public school that is right for us we had to like do
an interview like it was a full-on like a job interview where like you got everyone was held
in the library and then you got like picked out one by one it's it's quite selective yeah yeah
kind of the impression that i was given of beacon high school from other parents
who may have had students who did not get admitted and thus were quite ornery about it
was that beacon kids were the fast crowd what do you mean fast fast die hard they misbehave
yeah we were like the first or the second year. It used to be uptown on like 80-something street, 86th Street, like Upper East Side.
And then they moved to this new building on 44th and 10th.
And I remember like in middle school, it's like applying to college.
Like you go and tour it and there was a line around the block with exactly the moms you were talking about and their kids.
Everybody would file in.
We'd all do our tour and they'd be like, Brady, I could see you playing music down here in the music program or like sarah like you'd be amazing in the theater school
there was all these like different little clubs that it was really kind of big for
and it was very much i don't know what it is now but it was very much sort of like artsy
it's kind of falling off we've been hearing some bad rumors oh really ansel elgort go there
he went to la guardia la. That was the other one.
Nicki Minaj also went to LaGuardia.
In LaGuardia, they kind of have beef.
They have some beef.
It's like the Gryffindor Slytherin.
Right.
I never even considered the idea that there is schools in New York City.
There are.
There are.
There's actually schools here.
But it's crazy.
Sora's right.
It is like the college process.
Even in middle school, you had to send out applications and get selected.
Because there's not just,
like, a local school
that everyone goes to
if you live in a certain area.
No, you would get your letter
early on.
You get...
It's more distrited out.
But by high school,
you can go anywhere.
And that's, like,
when we all met each other.
You apply, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Stuyvesant High is, like,
the one...
Like, Stuyvesant High
is, like, the...
Is that, like,
the hardest one to get into?
It's, like, big brands.
That's specialized.
Funny enough,
we have a really good...
78% Asian. Exactly. Yeah, very much so. It's just, like, you work for the DO one to get into. It's like big brains. That's specialized. Funny enough, we have a really good-
78% Asian.
Exactly.
Yeah, very much so.
It's just like you work for the DOE.
You are.
I can go school applications all day long, but I don't think that's what this podcast is about.
We have a really good friend in high school who started taking sort of like our photos
and helping us with all the creative design, the website stuff.
Her name is Camilla.
She's a legend.
But she went to STI her first year of high school and after the first year was like no way i'm doing this
is it just too hard i should cook so well it's so hard organic i don't want to make it sound
she said no it was not that it was too hard for her i think she just realized that like she had
so many other skills that she could be applying herself to and like it was sort of beacon was
sort of smart but it was also like smart and cool and like she was an
amazing artist and like just wanted to do other stuff rather than like grind you know math
henry did you you went there too yeah i went there too and it's crazy because there are a million
kids in the new york city public school system i think or it was at the time and then we all
found each other and we've just been like like this ever since Holy shit. That warms my fucking heart.
It warms my soul.
Well, you guys were all really tight
and then you had your drummer.
Yeah, Shaz.
What happened to him?
Is that a sore subject?
I mean, we'll give love.
Go on now, type suit.
For those that don't know,
we were originally a five piece.
Shout out to Itai.
And over the past year, he just kind of doing his own thing. I don't know, we were originally a five-piece. Shout out to Itai. And over the past year, he's just kind of doing his own thing.
I don't want to speak for him, but kind of found a new journey.
He's nice with yoga, right?
Yes, that's his thing.
He's got beautiful abs.
Oh, my God.
It's like 0% body fat.
Delicious abs.
Which is unbelievable.
And I didn't dig that deep.
You have to see his abs.
I read his Wikipedia, and it just said that deep? You have to see his ad. Look at your Wikipedia.
It just said that he was pursuing his personal journey or something.
We actually just noticed that.
I should have read that as yoga.
I'm trying to go for more of like a Charlemagne interviewing type.
What's about that fifth drummer?
What happened with him?
What was the Post Malone one where he's like, what do you care about?
What are you doing about Black Lives Matter? yeah yeah shout out to Itai it's all love he's our brother for life
and fuck yeah yeah it's been like seven years too of doing it so I think we got we've all gotten to
a point where like it's evolved in so many different ways throughout the course of it
and like just now people are starting to find the funny videos and all that stuff but like there's so much that we you know slogged through and did all these tours we did
this last one that we just did driving all by ourself like just the five of us it was insane
and like all power to him like he was just sort of like yeah right now like i need a little chill
like i don't know if i could be staying up till 2 a.m. getting McDonald's every night, like, busting it down.
And we were like, okay, that's cool.
I'm going to still clog my arteries every night.
He probably doesn't line up with his fucking, his body goals.
Yeah.
I mean, he killed it.
We did the last tour.
He was trying to do both.
And it's really hard.
It's so hard on the road to be, like, to do eating healthy in any way
or exercising in any way.
I mean, you guys.
I'm trying to maintain this physique right now.
Exactly.
It's a battle.
It's work.
It'd be one thing if we were all super on that wave.
But yeah, I think it was probably hard because like just the timing of it all didn't line up.
Like I have not gotten to that place in my life where I can crush raw celery and broccoli.
Just now.
We actually have a challenge that we've created where you get a Big Mac, fries, chicken nuggets, and a McFlurry.
And whoever finishes it doesn't have to drive.
That's it? There's no time limit?
No, because nobody finishes it.
Oh, really?
That's a lot of food.
Say it again?
That's a lot of food.
Fries get bigger than your stomach after the show.
Six chicken nuggets?
No, it's ten.
Ten?
You go a ten-piecer.
Dude, I could finish that
so easily.
I feel like that makes it sound...
Am I crazy for thinking
I could put that away
I think it's more food
than you think it is.
Say it again.
Say what the components are.
Big Mac, fries,
a McFlurry,
and a ten-piece chicken nugget.
I think I ate that
like word for word.
You know what?
You know what?
You know what?
Never mind. You got to get on the road with the boys. Never you gotta get on the road with the boys never drive get on the road with the boys and flex we should get out there sass that's crazy
that sounds like a good how do you guys rent a car you own it you have a one oh shit all right
that's a good way around it i think on facebook marketplace or some shit that's nice where is it
where do you guys keep it is it in the city normally we like my parents during
covid moved to connecticut stanford connecticut and they're like now the only one of our parents
i think or maybe yours now but they're like they were the only one with the driveway so i would
just be like mom i'm bringing my laundry and the van home is that okay and they've been awesome
and so like they keep it my dad like when my mom has to use their car, my dad plays like paddle tennis tournaments
and like is on like the tennis club team.
So all of his boys like get in our van and like blare music and pull up, do the sliding
door.
At paddle?
Yeah.
At paddle.
Yeah.
And they intimidate.
Is it like a nice, like you can sleep in the van?
You guys have like beds and shit?
No, it's not like four bus vibes.
We'll get there.
We'll get there.
It's like a 15 passenger sort of.
Oh shit.
So it's like a, I know what you mean. mean a sprinter kind of uh yeah we've put some
miles on that baby we've had some we've had some scary moments we got it robbed in la really
we finished the tour did in la we were staying in an apartment building and we got to park it in the
lot and literally the first day off we had after the tour we get up we get down to the van and we're
so excited we're gonna run around la whatever windows cracked open that's the la experience
did you really go to la if you didn't get your van robbed though i feel like that's kind of a
right of passage it feels bucket listy it feels like you need to have that happen but it really
sucks like the underdog you guys now you guys like the underdogs you're over no yes
yeah now we're
here what uh what did they take what kind of shit did they take gear i mean yeah not ever not all
the gear but a lot of gear it was tough yeah literally the tour was over so it kind of was
okay that we could like replace it wasn't like we had like insurance and shit on that yeah we got it
all worked out it was funny because like we had so many guitars and keyboards and all this, but the job seemed
so rushed.
Yeah.
They just took the stuff on the top.
So they took all of our cables and all of our guitar stands.
What the fuck are they going to do with cables?
And it was like, they got some stuff too.
They got an acoustic guitar that was so nice that we really loved and a synthesizer.
And it's just like, ah, shoot.
We did some good disguising though.
We kept all of our microphone stands in a guitar case and i know some dude was just
lugging that super heavy bag being like we got a crazy hall yeah i pulled it open and this is all
like stance it's weird how like i i get robbed constantly we'll comment that on other videos
they're like how do these guys not get mugged every day? I get shit stolen from my apartment that I get packages weekly.
It's always weird what they select.
Right.
They never get...
I had a poster that got stolen.
Out of all the packages, why is that the one that weighs one pound?
People who love you tell you your decorator as well.
Yeah, exactly. I guess that's true.
They gotta put the poster up on the sidewalk.
Keep it to the ground.
When you guys went on tour,
was it major cities
or was it podunk little towns?
We hit the major cities.
The last tour we did, we opened for that band
Neon Trees. You know the song Everybody Talks?
Yeah.
They were doing their comeback tour very randomly, and they had us come because the lead singer
is a fan of ours, and that was really fun because they're very seasoned.
They've been doing it for 20 years.
Fuck yeah.
So we kind of just followed them around.
They're playing in pretty big rooms all over the country still.
How does that go with opening with music?
Are people pumped that there's music happening already, or are they kind of just like, are people are people like pumped that like there's music
happening already or are they kind of just like where the fuck is
It depends. It's a split thing.
I'm the guy that hates the opener.
Yeah.
I fucking hate that shit.
But I guess
I should flip that a little bit because I should have
some empathy for us. I've seen openers where
they're like self-aware where they'll be
like they'll like have a song about being the opening act and like nobody came to see us necessarily
it's like kind of well it's usually it's just a giggle out of filing in still exactly yeah
lights are still on like with the opener for comedy it's hit or miss sometimes the crowd's
really fun and into it and like we open for clero in europe a long time ago and like hell yeah
we're just amazing.
Europe.
How was that?
Where did you guys go in Europe?
Everywhere.
Literally got a, not a free, but a quick, easy pass around all of Europe.
That's awesome.
For three weeks.
It was amazing.
It was really, really cool.
And yeah, those fans are insane.
And then obviously for us, New York is our favorite spot.
We just love playing here. Does the headlining act determine the fee that you guys get?
Or does the venue?
A lot of times...
I'd say musicians and business...
Don't work.
I doubt they even knew what we got paid.
Yeah.
A lot of times it's also like a set rate.
It's sort of like, especially with the Claro Tour and then also this Neon Tree Store,
the opportunity to play in front of all those people is so great.
So you're not really worried about,
I mean, it's sort of like a flat rate
every night of a certain show.
Live Nation just started doing this thing.
We were finishing our tour.
We're like,
like they did this Willie Nelson themed,
like whatever,
some sort of like promo.
So they would give every artist
who played a certain level of venue,
which was like a thousand capacity or something,
whether you were opening,
whether you were headlining, whatever,
they give you 750 bucks a night in cash and 750 bucks a night in gas money on top of whatever else you're already getting so we were like heard about these we were riding
around with like 4k and just straight shell gas just like plummeting through that's a shit ton
of gas it's crazy we have like a stack so steel trapped in a rubber band of just shell cards.
That's crazy.
Julio just opened for Matt Friend
at the Gramercy Theater
and it was a Live Nation show
and half his pay
was in gas cards.
Yeah, literally.
That's crazy.
That's what happened to us.
It was insane.
Shout out Matt Friend
real quick.
You know him?
Yeah.
That's the guy
who does the impressions.
Oh, he's crazy.
His impressions are so good.
Yeah, it's really good.
Howard Stern.
Hollywood now too.
Yeah.
I like seeing the trajectory
of like Tikiktoker to
red carpet yeah oscar's on sunday he'll be on the red carpet oh for sure oh yeah yeah he will be
be interviewing killian murphy yeah he'll do like he'll like try to do a killing it was jeff
goldblum yeah exactly he'll do stanley tooch the jeff yeah the jeff goldblum is one of the faves
jeff is so good he's where i i've like i've known him for a while from just stand up and and then
i was watching i was like new year's eve I was watching TV and then all of a sudden
he was like on the main channel
doing impressions for the fucking people
like Seacrest and shit yeah
and Seacrest is just wasted out of his mind
like it's really good dude
it's really funny
that sounds just
holy shit
is he here right now he doesn't know what an impression i don't think we ran the new
year's uh live show this year we didn't have a tv at the crib this year i don't think it was a tv
i'm missing much yeah no i forgot the big thing this year was that it it struck midnight and then
they panned the camera over to two gay dudes making out and people were like,
no fucking way.
Turn that shit off now.
I'm starting my 2024.
But they just have no idea that Anderson Cooper and
Andy Cohen are gay.
They had no idea.
They had no idea.
It would have been awesome.
That would have been amazing.
Does Ryan Seacrest just wait every year until New Year's or does he do other shit?
I don't know.
I've only seen him do New Year's ever.
He's just in the chamber.
He did it.
He was American Idol, right?
I never watched American Idol.
I don't think he's doing that anymore.
I feel like American Idol is purely on TikTok now.
No, no.
I actually watched the first episode a couple of weeks ago.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I really did.
It's Katy Perry,
Lionel, of course,
and then my guy,
who's the other one,
Luke Bryan or something?
I forget who hosts it, though.
It's not Nick Lachey.
That was the other show.
Love is Blind is Nick Lachey now.
Well, there's so many
of those singing shows now.
Is The Voice still big?
Yes, it's still going.
The Voice was good.
I used to watch it.
Do you guys ever do,
I mean, you're probably
past it now,
but would you ever do something like America's Got got talent or audition for that funny enough audition for
america's got talent like the pre-audition audition i did yeah before you actually do it
you go into some rehearsal room i got passed through i played like ed sheeran or something
i was like let's go and they were like yeah no it's not gonna work out and i was like sort of
dodged a bullet but i always wonder wonder, like, it seems cool, but
I also have heard that, like, you have to sign, like, a crazy deal or whatever, like,
whatever AGT owns you for the next, like, six years.
Oh, they own your soul.
You have to go to Bohemian Grove and, like, watch atrocities happen.
That's crazy.
It's nasty.
It was a strange experience when I did it.
Yeah, what was your experience like?
I went to Queens, some college, and you get there at 6.30 in the morning
and the line is already
like 400 people deep.
And there are families there
with, you know,
12 aunts and uncles,
parents, grandparents,
all for some four-year-old
wearing a cheerleading outfit
and full makeup.
And you're like,
are they betting
the entire farm
piece of shit girl don't fuck this up lucy i just want and then and then you get into this
sort of open atrium i don't know if you same thing for you but like people are warming up and bonding
and and doing their shit so there's like a dance circle and then there's people juggling
and then there's a couple singers doing vocal warmups
and everybody's very convivial
and pretending to root each other on.
But there's like some dancers that are incredible
dancing next to people who you're like,
you should leave now.
Save time.
Wasting your day.
They're dancing with people
that are dismissing you
on a talent level
surely
you're the joke here you don't realize it
but you're the comedic relief
you have so much more paperwork to do
go home get a job at a bodega
I don't know
I feel like some people are banking on
the fact that they're just like a freak
isn't that like half of America
some of the bad people get on yeah that they're just like a freak, right? Isn't that like half of America? Like to get through to the...
Some of the bad people get on.
Yeah, because they're like, oh, this guy is going to cause a scene.
Let's get him in the audition.
It's all for the entertainment.
Yeah, yeah.
If you're good, like I bet Sora was great, but it just wasn't.
Yeah, they're like, well, he's not going to...
I was super puberty, so I was kind of towing the line of the vocal change going in there.
But I was... They're either looking for some young kid who's like talented for his age or someone who's going to like cry. super puberty so i was kind of towing the line of the vocal change going in there but i was they're
either looking for some young kid who's like talented for his age or someone who's gonna like
cry yeah and like we're like william hung howie mandela like a veteran but also like
something to go i think people want a juggling veteran quickly you know what i mean they'll
highlight they highlight people every episode they were really trying to find something because i got
passed through the they put you in a classroom and there's like 12 of you and you each get a
minute or two and after that people are let go and they're like all right we're gonna let you
know in two weeks and then most of the class filed out or whatever.
And he grabbed me and one other guy.
He's like, hold on one second.
I actually thought I was in trouble.
Right.
I was like, did I say the N word?
I blacked out.
I surely didn't.
And then and then they they say, like, come with me.
And they walk you through to like an actual set.
Yeah.
Big cameras and lights.
And now it's serious.
But before that, they do like a pre-interview
where they were like on your packet,
you wrote down like your favorite person is your dad or something.
Yeah, yeah.
Did he ever kill someone?
You know, surely he touched you.
And you overcame that,
which is where your sense of dark humor comes from.
And they want cracks or problems or whatever.
What did you go on with?
Just some songs?
No, I just did stand-up.
Did you really?
Yeah.
And what was your plan if you went on?
Because wouldn't you need a new five minutes every time, every show, every episode, every audition?
This was before Barstool.
And I went to that second part of the audition.
And this time it was like there was a camera the size of a, you know, fire hose.
It was huge.
And then there was a panel of like six really official producers sitting behind a table and a mark.
And this time you had instead of like two minutes, now you had four.
And they were like, come in.
And I went in and I didn't know.
I had prepared two minutes.
Yeah.
So all of a sudden, just same day, I had to like come up with another two minutes of clean stuff and i was never gonna get farther than that what's it like writing stand-up i've always
wondered this like the process is it just like notes app like yo that's good like yeah pretty
much yeah that's pretty much that's actually exactly what it is you have like a list of people
you test it out with like now you gotta go you gotta go yeah because it doesn't also any my best
jokes if i told them to one of you guys right now in just like a normal voice and like without a
crowd you'd be like no that's not funny at all that sucks we went to the worst comedy show really
we just like stumbled into one wasn't it anytime you're stumbling into that it's like a workshop
everyone there was like other fellow comedians.
It was an open mic.
It was an open mic.
I guess, yeah. We were probably the only
people there to just watch it. Was this the Grizzly Pear?
No.
What was it called? It was in Hell's Kitchen.
I don't know. Was it the Producers Club?
Yes. I think it was.
That's where I started.
I started there. It's terrible.
That place is a fucking nightmare. It's terrible. Like little room next to the bar.
Yeah, that place is a fucking nightmare.
It was gnarly.
That place was crazy.
The worst jokes.
Dude.
It's an array of different styles.
That place is so bad.
There was someone who was super like non-fucking, like really vulgar, to then someone doing
like sort of notebook jokes trying to find my person.
It was all over the place.
Was there a dude with a Mets jersey
who was shit-faced?
There was a dude with a full
Top Ramen sweater.
The whole hoodie was
ramen.
I've seen that jumpsuit.
It was crazy.
Was there anybody making you laugh?
There was one Orthodox
Jewish guy.
It was situationally funny. i respected everybody because they were all
characters and they went out there and like put themselves up there and just sometimes the couple
laughs or the deadness of the room would just make you laugh anyway yeah that's all sometimes
is equally funny watching someone like eat shit kind of no that that place it's like not it's
like not even like oh this guy's bombing this is funny it's like it's so uncomfortably bad yeah so how do you overcome like how do you get to the next level
from there you just wait for a crowd of people like you guys to come like that was like the
only time i ever got a laugh was when some girl was doing open mic and brought like 10 friends
and i'd had like a good set and i left and i was like i'm the best to ever do it
and then how did you book your next?
Like, how did you have the confidence?
I just had someone I was at.
I was at the stand for something.
I think I was watching a show there.
And some this guy, Jared Schwartz, came up to me and was like, do you want to do my show?
Oh, really?
Yeah.
All it takes.
And that launched you.
We respect you guys, though.
And then after that, it's just been I mean, it's just been history since then.
It's in the textbooks.
Einfeld, Chappelle.
Exactly.
We've covered stand-up, so I think that's probably all we need to do today.
Where can we find you guys?
We're opening for Sass at the Stand.
The Producers Club is hilarious.
I can't believe that's where you guys went.
I remember I went there for the first time.
I couldn't find it.
How did you guys stumble into that place? We're trying to find a movie theater to screen this
documentary oh yeah yeah yeah very casually plugging um your guys documentary yeah we made
a documentary about our last album we were trying to find somewhere to put it on and like that
wasn't that expensive and that yeah ended up being a prospect we didn't end up going there we found
another spot but it was a cool spot and then after we checked out the theater we just walked down and stumbled into it um but yeah we just did a screening at like angelica
village east oh dude i'm going i'm going to go see dune at the angelica i'm excited about it
that big room's gonna be sick it was one of the smaller like side rooms you can have a beer with
your movie oh you can have an ipa i like can't see through the beer with your movie. Yeah.
I've heard Dune's crazy.
I've heard Dune is great.
I've heard Dune 2 is upper echelon.
I just found out there was a 1980s one.
There was a first one that I had no idea about. Kevin Bacon.
I think.
And I was watching.
It was a TikTok of the old scene of the sandworm and the new one.
And they were comparing the different. Is scene of the sandworm and the new one. And they were comparing the different...
Is Austin Butler the sandworm?
Yes.
No, I think it's Austin Reeves, actually.
Yeah, the basketball player.
Oh, Austin AR-15 is the sandworm.
That Sawyers look like Austin Reeves.
I think the one that's more spot on is Connor Roy or earlier Connor Roy from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
What's his name?
I like that.
I forget his name.
Ferris' friend. Yeah, Cameron, but like the guy's Day Off. What's his name? I like that. I forget his name. Ferris' friend.
Yeah, Cameron, but like the guy's name.
I forget what his name is.
He was in something that I just watched recently.
Like, and he's old.
He's gotten older, yeah.
As time has passed, he's gotten older.
He's gotten old, yeah.
Fucking jarring.
Guys, I'm going to have to revise.
I don't think Kevin Bacon was in the original Dune.
Who was it?
Patrick Stewart?
Okay. No. Sting? St. Who was it? Patrick Stewart? Okay.
No.
Sting?
Oh.
Sting?
Sting?
Apparently Sting was in it, or maybe he did the soundtrack.
Nope, he's got a character, it looks like.
Then a whole bunch of people have never heard of him.
Sting rules.
There's a movie with Kevin Bacon that has worms in the sand.
Tremor?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That movie's fucking sweet, too.
What is that called? Might be Tremor? Oh yeah yeah yeah That movie's fucking sweet too What is that called?
Might be Tremors
I don't think I've seen a single movie
With worms in the sand
Unfortunately
What about Starship Troopers?
Doesn't that have worms in the sand?
It is called Tremors
Dude that movie rules
It does have Kevin Bacon
Wow
Alright
It's just about
It's literally about worms in the sand
That's right
That's the whole movie
Like 1990
That was 1990
Younger Bacon Yeah it was Hot Bacon Hot Bacon literally about worms in the sand that's right that's the whole movie like 19 that was 1990 okay
so young younger bacon young yeah it was a hot bacon hot bacon smoking hot bacon oh my god
i've been watching a show called rome it came out like 2004 on hbo but uh you look like um
brutus from that show every time i watch the show it doesn't anything for anyone, but it just has been weighing on my mind.
Every time I watch the show, I'm like, fucking Sawyer right here.
There you go.
How often do you think about the Roman Empire?
Dude, I mean, now that I'm watching the show,
probably like 12 times a day.
It's crazy.
I never understood that trend.
Yeah, I hate it either.
Never.
Not once.
I never thought about it.
Truly, that was my first time ever thinking about the Roman Empire.
Yeah, I don't even really know what it is still.
Yeah, I don't know anything about it. i just know everyone's thinking about it you probably think
about it a lot i don't don't know like a history guy i like history i don't like that period why
what do you have against that period i don't know i like later history i like america like i'm like
suits and stuff and like machines got boring there in the middle for a while i like jesus christ and
now that was jesus Christ time, though.
That was exactly Jesus Christ time.
It might have been. It was exactly to
the year Jesus Christ time.
Really? Is he in the show?
No, but there's a lookalike, though.
There's a dude who looks exactly like him, but
he's the king of the
Gauls, not the king of the Jews.
Is it like a Game of Thrones
vibe? It is, but it's like the real story of the fall of Rome.s i don't know like a is it like a game of thrones vibe or is it it is but
it's like uh it's the real story of uh the fall of rome it's kind of sweet i've been watching it
on airplanes are you guys are you guys all single no we're actually all dating people oh okay that's
great i was gonna say it must be fun to be 22 years old riding around in a van with your buddies
touring and you're probably up to your elbows
funny enough you mentioned that there's a lot of there's a lot of actually really specific
your elbow you're up to your elbow boys you're up to your elbows there's a lot of really specific
rules especially when you play the college shows about like when you can be on campus where you can
be getting off at a certain time because i'm sure they're expecting you know what i mean like yeah
here come four dudes in a van yeah i can sure they're expecting, you know what I mean? Like, here come four dudes in a van
that can roll away at any time,
you know what I mean?
So I also think, I don't know,
since we've been doing it from a young age,
I think we've all just sort of gotten
pretty good at maintaining a level of like,
okay, this is work and like,
these are the fans and like,
this could end,
especially when we were like 16,
like it could just end poorly.
You're crazy though. If you bridge that line too much. That's healthy as fuck. I think it's worked out are the fans. And like, this could end, especially when we were like 16, like it could just end poorly.
You're crazy though.
If you bridge that line too much. That's healthy as fuck.
I think it's worked out for the best.
That's not the Beacon I know.
Oh, Francis.
I know it was fast as fuck.
We're lame.
You guys really left Beacon in the rear view.
We're all virgins, baby.
Drugs, money.
I'm keeping this chastity belt on until I win the Grammy.
Francis, I think you have a warped perspective of like being 22 i
think if you went back and was 20 and you were 22 i don't think you would be like fucking every
single night nobody even talks to each other anymore speak for yourself every time we go on
the road with together he's like i can't believe you're not here just fucking pussy all the time
oh when i was 22 i had to keep my i had to raise my elbows that's how up to my elbows I was I was like oh shit
you you you
also like
I feel like everybody who have been like
oh you're kind of cute has been like
yo merrily we snore
I can't
look you dead in the eye
and do that
we had picked up our van this was like 4 days ago
5 days ago we were driving we just picked up some van. This was like four days ago, five days ago.
We were driving.
We just picked up some new merch from the guy that makes our t-shirts.
We were just sitting at a red light
and a girl comes in,
like slams on the window
and she goes,
you guys are so funny.
And she just runs away
and then Jude looks in the rear view mirror
and she had gotten out of her car.
Oh shit.
That's crazy.
And then later we got a DM from her being like, by the way, I was the girl that got out of my car to Oh, shit. That's crazy. And then later, we got a DM from her being like,
by the way,
I was the girl that got out of my car
to say hi to you.
Love your music, too.
Yeah.
We were just like,
oh, my God.
You should have stayed safe.
Never had that happen.
That was a layup.
You guys.
You dropped the ball.
You dropped the ball.
You guys should have popped the van open.
It's the middle of the road.
Just park the car.
Wench your car.
Oh, come on in.
Fuck all of us.
I would have started a relationship with him.
Our boy Skyvon, who's behind the camera,
he was like, what is it like being a B-list celebrity?
I was like, we are not.
We're like L-N-O-P-list.
L-N-O-P-list.
For sure.
Then we were having a debate about this.
I wanted to bring this up because he was like,
I was like, who's B-list?
Or who's A-list?
And he said, Timothee Chalamet is A-list.
And I thought- I agree. I think that's spot onList? And he said, Timothee Chalamet is A-List. I agree.
I think that's spot on.
See?
I feel like A-List,
you have to have a tenure.
I judge A-List
based on if my parents
know who they are or not.
Okay, I like that.
But A-List to me
is like the Brad Pitts
of the world.
I feel like Brad Pitt
is the first name you say,
but is he aging out of it though?
Legacy A-List.
I think A-List implies a legacy. He'll stay A-List, but you he aging out of it, though? Legacy. I think A-list implies a legacy.
He'll stay A-list.
You have to make room for new people.
He was A-list when we were kids, you know what I mean?
So this is the new A-list.
Timmy is new A-list. Brad Pitt was A
when you were born.
Is it only actors?
Kim is up there.
To me, it's like Oprah.
It's like Obama
You gotta keep it elite
I don't even think I would say Oprah
Celebrity ranking
Any president
Any president is definitely A-list
I don't think I would say Oprah
Because I don't even know if my little sisters would know Oprah
If they saw her
Taylor's A
On the side Of doing the music I teach music lessons to little kids if they saw her. That's true. Taylor. Taylor's A. Yeah, definitely. I was,
so on the side of doing the music,
I teach music lessons
to little kids
on AGT,
exactly like the little
cellular farm
for the little kids.
And I was like,
okay, we could sing.
Farm hands?
Yeah, like they want
to bet it all.
I was like,
oh, we could sing
a Bruno Mars song
and they were like,
who's that?
And I was like,
oh my God.
I agree. Bruno Mars is not aging out? What a Bruno Mars song and they were like, who's that? And I was like, no, my God. I agree.
Bruno Mars is not aging out.
Bruno Mars might be D-list.
D?
Stop,
bro.
Don't put smut on his name.
The peak of Bruno Mars being A-list is when he had that song where he talked about,
oh,
no,
the one where he talked about having really nice sex and it would ruin every single car
ride.
Lazy song.
Yeah.
Yeah. Lazy day. Lazy day. What is it? Yeah, Lazy Day.
Lazy Day.
Have a really nice girl.
I remember I would be in the car with my mom
and that song would come on.
I went to Chile around that time
and everyone there was obsessed with that song.
They recreated the music video with their buddies.
They had some really nice sex with their buddies.
Good song. He's japan right now he's like uh doing like a hurajuku thing in japan
now wow tokyo dome yeah i saw that he's playing at the tokyo he was like calmly
yeah that's fucking that's a list i don't think he shows it off he's not like he's not flashy
son of a boy dad like no no not running where was rihanna the
other day did you guys see that he's at that wedding to play a wedding and it looked so awesome
i paid like seven million seven million to be there no who was this rihanna yeah for the most
the richest guy in india zuckerberg pulled up yes wow Zucker's there just posted
that's crazy that
when you get that famous
you're still doing
like corporate gigs
I mean 7 million
is 7 million million dollars
yeah
out of question
exactly
how much money
do you think Rihanna has though
do you think that even is like
she's a billionaire right
she's probably making
7 million dollars a show anyway
oh yeah
and the Fenty stuff
I bet is just
pulling in tons of cash
yeah
is that your idea is that your I think that's what I saw is just pulling in tons of cash. Is that your idea?
I think that's what I saw. Did you see Lil TJ
did a bat mitzvah the other day? No.
It's great. It's an awesome video.
This kid comes out with TJ.
It's like an NBA entrance
and they get on stage.
He's like his DJ. It's great. I wonder what that
bag is like for TJ. What kind of
bags does he get him? A good amount of money.
Bar mitzvah bags are sick.
He opened with FN and just came out
with... I have no idea what songs they
ran. I don't know if it was a clean version or they did
sort of a Torah portion to
make it fit with the theme.
I would be down to do a bar mitzvah.
Like a really solid, bouncy castle.
We want to be like the guys that
kind of get all the kids to dance.
We would do both.
We would kind of be the band.
MC.
Can you do your MC, Jude?
Come on, guys.
Get on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do it.
Give me the one.
Introduce Jonah.
Introduce Jonah, Jude.
Give it to me.
Everyone, give it up for Jonah's bar mitzvah.
I got a feeling.
That's hilarious.
Where's Sidney Sweeney
rank on the A, B list?
A, for sure.
No, no, no, no.
I think she's like
top of B.
Sweeney is E.
Sweeney is B.
Top of B.
Oh.
Firmly entrenched in B.
No.
Sweeney is definitely A.
I'm getting way harsher
about this.
Yeah.
Sweeney. Dude, Sweeney is A A. I'm getting way harsher about this. Yeah. Sweeney.
Dude, Sweeney's A for me.
Sweeney's like Jack Harlow.
D for sure.
Sweeney, Jack Harlow on that B tier.
Jack is A.
My dad knows Jack Harlow.
No.
That's how white men can't jump.
Easy, bro.
Jack Harlow is not A-list.
And Sweeney is?
Yeah.
Sweeney just hosts SNL.
Jack is A.
All these people are A.
No.
The New Balance commercials commercials my dad saw that
and he was like
oh the basketball player guy
he's a rapper
I forgot about the commercial
that proves that he's B
because your dad knows
who he is
if he's in a movie
he's A
he can't name a Jack Harlow song
like we can
what's poppin
he so can give you
he can give you the first four bars
of what's poppin
like nobody
sounds like you just have
a cool ass dad I don't think he's on the paddle court like you guys heard you the first four bars of what's popping. Like, nobody's listening. It sounds like you just have a cool-ass dad.
I don't think that.
He's on the paddle court.
Like, you guys heard this new Harlow kid?
Yeah.
That's not it.
Jack, man, he just went into his lyrical bag, man.
I didn't know, like, he could spit like this.
Legal shit.
I heard Ale Tech on the last album.
I knew he had bars, but it's just like.
And he's friends with Tyler Hero.
I mean, it's great.
I don't know if my dad would know who Jack Harlow or Tyler Hero are.
Heroes.
Heroes.
Heroes.
Heroes not there.
Jack Harlow, he hit us up recently, too.
Really?
Say what you said to your dad when you were going to tell him that Jack Harlow hit us up.
Oh, okay.
So, yeah.
We got a DM from Jack Harlow just being like, I think you guys are funny.
We were freaking out.
We love Jack.
And my parents live in Connecticut, so I took the train.
I hopped in the car. My dad picked me up from the train station i was like dad guess who hit us up
and he was like drake and i was like no that already happened and he was like man you got
to take advantage of that drake thing man not like we're moving on working on it we're working on it
and then i was like no keep going and he was like i forget who else he said that i was like no your
favorite white basketball player and he was like brian scalabrini and i was like, no, your favorite white basketball player. And he was like, Brian Scalabrini? And I was like, no.
Really?
He was like, no, like fake.
And he was like, oh, Jack Harlow.
And I was like, yeah.
And he's like, man, you guys got to like open for him or something. Like you got to take advantage of this opportunity.
That's hilarious.
My parents used to do that exact same thing.
Like any big person would reach out and they'd be like, so are you guys going to work?
And I'm like, they don't even, they said hello.
We're not going to work together. I was like 19 or 18 like cody co and
noel miller i met them and they were like so are you working for them now and i was like no
in no scenario am i working with them it was a five minute debrief sonny's just looking out he's
like our business manager pseudo he's great he can. Yeah. My dad has been sort of like our interim. Because we
were in high school, we had a major label, we had a business manager, we had all this stuff.
And then the label game is basically just like they make their money from the Drakes and the
Dua Lipas of the world. So if you don't hit a certain level, they kind of are like, we're
going to move on. So when that happened, we got dropped from our label, our business management
team dropped us. And my dad is like an accountant. he's been like his whole life and he sort of at first i was like can you
help and he's like i don't know maybe i'll do it and now he's like so into it like he was pretending
like he was like maybe thinking like it might not be the best idea but now he's like man we could
get like some sort of like crowdfunding like sort of crypto like you guys don't need a label. We could fund this whole thing ourselves.
I'm sure your dad's great.
I would caution you about getting in bed
with a father
of the band
as management.
There is a long history
in the music industry.
Jackson 5.
I was going right away.
Same problem. Your was thinking of that. I was going right away. Same problem.
Your dad talked about
crypto and
he was early.
Mr. Jackson was early on the crypto wave.
I'm telling you, Bitcoin's going to take off.
You guys are about to sign some paperwork with your dad.
Make sure you let me take a look. Blinking twice, everyone.
I'm blinking twice.
Because I went to four days of law school.
True story.
Did you do musical theater?
Yeah, I was.
That's how I actually.
So I'm from New Orleans originally.
And I moved here because I was obsessed with doing Broadway or thinking about being on Broadway.
I came to vacation to New York every summer to see a play.
I saw Shrek the musical like four times in a row.
Like made my parents give me the little ears and everything in the shirt.
And then one time I came up to see Newsies I was obsessed with.
And I auditioned for like an open call of Matilda the musical in 2012.
And like three months later, after like a couple of callbacks, they were like, you're in.
You're going to be like an understudy slash alternate.
You'll go on twice a week out of the eight shows, but you're in if you want to do it.
And my parents were like super hype. I'm an child my dad had an office in new york they like
i'm so grateful they moved everything around so i could move up here i was going to go back to
new orleans after doing the show for a year and a half and then i kept booking little theater like
either readings or like little shows and stuff and then finding neverland you were in i did i
did finding neverland with the big bad harvey weinstein which i have oh Neverland you were in. I did Finding Neverland with the big bad Harvey Weinstein.
Oh!
I didn't know you were going to go there.
I just feel like I've got to say it because I feel like if I don't mention it
people will be like, he's not... Why isn't he saying it?
Yeah, exactly. Why didn't he say anything
about Harvey Weinstein? Everyone was thinking.
Exactly.
But no, I just...
Did you say the big bad Harvey Weinstein?
I mean, he's bad. And he's just a large man. exactly but no I just did you say the big bad Harvey Weinstein big big
I mean he's bad
and he's just a large man
wait didn't Harvey Weinstein
produce Finding Neverland
in 2014
why didn't he mention that
didn't you not say anything
I bet there's a lot of shit
happening
didn't you stay silent
on the issue
of you being a part
of an abuser's show
Andre Day
close associates
with Harvey Weinstein
no
no
who's that
no
yeah I just kept doing shows and then and then once i went to
high school it was kind of like i met jude on the first day we were wearing the adidas nmds not the
hype ones with like the red and blue little pockets like just the general these ones grs and then i
was sort of kind of like doing theater and i got really anxious because like my voice was not like a
little kid's voice anymore and i was trying to sing like all this crazy stuff like dear of enhance
all these shows that are just like insane skyvon laughs because we we joke about it and then
eventually i was just kind of like to my parents i had gotten rejected from a bunch of shows did a
bunch of auditions i was kind of like i really want to try this band thing and like write my
own songs and they were like i don't know you've done so much and then as we kept going and they kept coming to shows they were like oh okay i see that you are passionate
about it and want to do it so like go go with the winds yeah fuck yeah yeah sick and you cool story
yeah it's wild from new orleans to new york it's all fate completely on a whim like henry and
henry have the same birthday by absolutely coincidence and our dads have the same name
what the that's all we can say about you guys?
Yeah, saying like,
oh, accolades.
Oh, accolades.
I'm just thinking of fate
and just like,
universe,
the stars aligning
for us to be here.
We got Harvey Weinstein,
your favorite boy over here.
I'm his right-hand man.
You two happened to be born
on the same day.
They're both Scorpios.
Fuck that.
A little deeper.
We're both Pisces. We're very A little deeper. We're both Pisces.
We're very emotional, very creative.
I love it.
And you do some of your own music?
I know you do some of your own music too.
That's how we did research.
I'm locked, bro.
What the fuck?
Very locked.
Play with me.
I was like 14 and I got GarageBand.
And I was doing the theater and I would do acapella songs.
I'd sing the top line and then I'd sing the bass and I'd sing
the drums and play a little guitar.
It would have gone hard on TikTok.
Oh, like acapella sort of?
14-year-old me? Yeah, I'm sure it would have gone hard.
It would have been like, this kid's the future.
Yeah, exactly. Them on America's Got Talent.
It would have been on Ellen.
Really quick, I saw
Matilda with the original cast.
There's a 30 30 chance you saw
me then he was yeah i was on every once in a while i saw with the the proper trunchbull
it was crazy he was awesome he was so good he kind of stole the show no he used to be his name
is birdie he's amazing he just won like a olivier some award or i don't know but he used to be like
a method actor where like he'd be
backstage like in that thing so if you were like screaming or like being like an annoying like 12
year old like he would like snap at you yeah just start yelling also all the creative team they were
all british so they were like and the show had done really well in london so when we came over
like i moved to new york we started rehearsal the next week there were kids in it who were playing
the younger kids.
And there were adults who were supposed to be like the older school kids,
if you remember.
And like the little kids were called in two weeks ahead of everyone else to do
stamina training,
which is basically just like all the kids running in circles,
singing all the songs.
Grooming.
Yeah,
exactly.
I got screamed at so many times.
Wait,
it's a dude that plays, I thought it was like Miss Trunch so many times. Wait, it's a dude that plays...
I thought it was, like, Miss Trunchbull.
Yes, yes. It's a dude.
It plays the
woman. He's in, like, this crazy
kind of, like, fat suit with, like, these
huge tits and, like, this ass.
He, like, swings this girl around.
It's insane. And, like, the bun and, like, the...
Why is a woman not playing that? They just couldn't, like,
put out a casting call for, like, a... type shit yeah it is very miss doubtfire sort of
in that realm also like there's a lot of like there's a part where he has to like pick this
girl up by her pigtails like her by her hair and like swing her around so like they had to have
someone who could like literally like fling this girl around so it was real not that a woman couldn't
do that but it was...
Actually, they actually...
It was like a harness
attached to her wig.
I'm giving away all the secrets.
Yes.
Hey, boys.
Yes.
Good to see you guys.
Hey.
What's up, family?
Those are the upper ups.
I have no idea who those are.
You have no idea?
Exact.
Never seen those dudes before.
Wasn't Cat Williams
getting all pissed
about dudes wearing dresses?
Yeah.
He should start a beef
with Matilda.
Yvonne's a huge Cat Williams fan.
Are you really?
Get on the mic.
Get in, bro.
Do some stand-up.
Are you really about to rep Cat Williams?
Pull your pants off.
Pull your pants down.
All right, so I've been waiting for this moment.
I actually had a joke.
Okay.
No, just kidding.
The industry is full of liars.
Facts.
Facts. Cat Williams. I'm going to pretend to be Cat Williams. The industry is full of liars. Facts. Facts.
Is it Cat Williams?
I'm going to pretend to be Cat Williams.
The industry is full of liars.
Josh Peck is gay.
Oh.
No.
No, no, no.
I like this.
Air it all out.
No, no.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
I think you should use this opportunity to just tell Josh Peck what you want to tell him.
Okay.
Which camera should I look at?
It doesn't matter.
They're all-
Dead in the middle, right?
With the red light on.
I'm calling you out.
I need you to say what's up to me or something.
After calling him gay?
A call out sounds like a nasty call out.
Skyvon is a massive Josh Peck fan.
Yeah, Drake and Josh.
Where'd that come from?
Oppenheimer.
You're gay, say what's up to me.
Josh Peck, I'm calling you the fuck out.
Say hello, please. It started with the Peck. I'm calling you the fuck out. Explain your Josh Peck. Say hello, please.
It started with the Amanda show.
I was like five or something.
And Josh was the best character on it.
You're in love.
You're in love.
Yeah, he is the man.
And then Drake and Josh came out.
I was like, oh, this is fire.
And then...
Were you always a Josh guy?
Yeah, I was more of a Josh guy.
Everybody's a Josh guy. Yeah. I'm on Drake and Josh. Who's a Drake... Were you always a Josh guy? Yeah, I was more of a Josh guy.
Everybody's a Josh guy.
Yeah.
Hold on, Drake and Josh.
Who's a Drake guy?
You're a Drake guy?
Drake was like the cool guy who was getting all the pussy. Oh, Ash was the show.
You know what the best episode of Drake and Josh was?
You know the one where they accidentally lock themselves in the treehouse?
Oh, in that episode?
They draw the door.
Yeah, they draw the door.
Right.
So good.
Nah, one of the best displays
of acting...
Legendary.
One of the best displays
of acting
was that episode
where, like,
Drake and Josh, like,
start having beef
with each other.
Right.
And then, like,
at the end,
when, like,
when Drake Bell's, like,
all wet and stuff
and, like,
and Josh is like,
yo, like...
No, no, Drake is like,
yo, like,
dude, I need you, man.
Like, I just... I need you. And Josh, like, has, no, Drake is like, yo, like, dude, I need you, man. Like, I just, I need you.
And Josh, like, has that moment where he's just like, so good.
Well, I felt like I was there.
That was crazy.
It was like the rekindling of brothers.
Yeah, then they started playing ping pong.
It was great.
Yo.
And then Oppenheimer, you know, that's how he booked Oppenheimer.. It was great. And then Oppenheimer.
That's how he booked Oppenheimer.
That's how he booked Oppenheimer. Yeah, it was off that clip.
Christopher Nolan saw him in Drake and Josh
and said, this guy's going to be magical
one day. He's going to be the best button pusher ever.
He's a huge David Dobrik fan.
I'm in David Dobrik's club.
Right. I forgot about that era.
I know, me too. Wait, can I change the subject kind of quickly?
How did you get into battle rap?
I need to know this.
Oh, that's a good question.
Getting back to the music real quick, because we are musicians at heart.
I just, when I first went to college, I enrolled in college, and I'd never liked to even rap
really when I was in high school.
Like, I didn't really listen to a lot of rap.
I was listening to John Mayer and shit like that.
That was kind of my bag.
I know that you guys are locked on John Mayer as well.
Love some John.
The Goat.
Incredible.
Continuum was the one.
That was the album.
Continuum was the perfect album.
Have you ever seen the In Repair live video?
Oh, where they record it?
With him and Steve Jordan and Pino.
It's amazing.
With all the pedals?
Yes, it's really, really good.
I think it's in New York.
No, it's not Pino.
It's...
I'm forgetting that guy's name. But it's that guy who plays the bass like guitar with six strings. The Fender six. Yeah, exactly. He's a legend. of freestyling uh like around the keg kind of vibe and then this famous rapper at the time this
guy named charles hamilton a guy from brooklyn came to penn state and i had i was in a play
actually where i like freestyle rapped and like went out into the crowd people would hold stuff
up and it was a precursor to hamilton loki the same kind of thing and uh the dj from that play
was like this guy charles hamilton's coming to our
campus like he likes to have people up on stage and freestyle so he didn't have people up on stage
to freestyle but i was like kind of waiting all night and then afterwards like i ran into him
backstage and like we got into like a rap battle and it went on like a world star hip-hop the next
day and i was like holy fuck uh like it was and that's all i was trying to do with it but then battle rap league
started calling me up and uh i started like kind of traveling in my early 20s like traveling the
world doing like battle rap and shit like that um so you realized you were good at it like when you
started rehearsing for that play uh it was like i i could just kind of freestyle and that was like
it was like this kind of free form like hip-hop play um and i was that that was like, it was like this kind of free form, like hip hop play. Um, and I was, that, that was my audition.
Like they didn't like ask me to do anything, but I was like, I can do this.
I can freestyle.
And so they kind of implemented it into the play and that they had me kind of doing it
in front of the, uh, the audience, uh, every night at the play.
So cool.
But the question, would you rap battle with Charlie clips?
I, uh, I've definitely would.
I don't know if I was, I was booked to battle him like once or twice
it never materialized and then i was going to book him i was doing like compliment rap battles
and he was dying to do one of those compliment battles genius the nicest that's what it was
called that's the nicest of dudes just complimenting the shit out of each other but you know charlie
clips um yeah i'm familiar with him with his work yeah he's incredible he's great he's like a genius freestyler tiktok for you all the time really yeah for sure yeah he's sick he's uh he's
very talented you guys do a little rapping i feel like uh you know you need you guys that's kind of
like rapping that's like a little like beastie boys like vibe vibe yeah yeah we tap into that
a little bit there was a funny moment do you remember when we so we um there's this kid band
called imagination movers i shouldn't call them a kid band they're a band but they mostly do like
disney channel stuff and there was a track they did like a cover album of one of the songs was
called my favorite snack and we did like a beasties rendition and jude does the first like
verse and then i was in the booth trying to do the beastie boys impression and i just couldn't
get as clean as jude jude just has it so clean i was trying to be like well my favorite snack is grapes
also just being in the booth and like seeing you in the control room with the talkback button being
like that was great can we like you can give me more sort of energy with it i feel like you're
kind of in the top and i was like i don't have this bro i don't have this i think it goes um
it's one of my favorite verses um my favorite snack is a peanut butter cracker
jelly on top it's really lip smacker something like that couldn't get that line that line dude
had to come in and just just blew it up smack her yeah it's hilarious if people used to listen to
that and be like oh my fucking god oh my god that's exactly what i like
out of the imagination mo. I eat those too.
Yeah, Beastie Boys.
Yeah, that song, You Know You Need Unique New York,
was definitely a Beastie Boys homage.
And we did this whole video where we ran around the city
and just got people to say that phrase.
We would just go up to people and be like,
hey, we're shooting a video.
Can you just say You Know You Need Unique New York?
I just watched this video.
And then the whole video is chopped up where it's all these
different new yorkers like every word is a different person and that was really fun it was
really cool you taught it to two kids that i think they were standing near a hot dog cart or something
and this is really weird but yesterday for the first time i've lived in new york for 12 years
and for the first time in my life i got off the subway at my in brooklyn and as the subway was
pulling away there were two kids standing on the end on the back on the outside of the train
surfing and like waving at the people on the platform being like yo what's up and i'm pretty
sure those two kids were the two kids in your music video it might have been i'm telling you
i saw them in the music video and i was like those kids were surfing the subway train yesterday that's
so funny yeah it was so fun we did that last summer and we filmed it like for a while like
we didn't want to stop filming it it was just so fun to just run around it would just take like four hours a day to just go into different neighborhoods and
we went into like every borough and did it um you guys have like a broad enough uh sound where you
guys can like take so many influences like it's not like that much of a departure to do some like
beastie boys shit yeah no it felt natural and like honestly the way we think about it is like we listen to everything
so why wouldn't our music kind of turn into that like we're just not interested in being kind of
pigeonholed into one sound if we wanted to i don't think we even could um and it's honestly
something we want to like continue to hone in on but for now it's like if you listen to our last
album like every song is kind of a different genre.
And I know I'm sure like a lot of people say that.
But honestly, for us, it's like not just genres, like different, like time periods and shit like that. Like the and if I fuck myself to love you, what's that one called?
Crazy Stupid Love.
Crazy Stupid Love.
Oh, that's the Drizzy one.
Yeah.
That's like that sounds like some fucking.
That sounds like some like it's like like uh like 90s like instinct but like it's like
sounds like the batman soundtrack like so like seal like it's like uh just once i recently that
i liked is like we make pop music with r&b melodies which i thought was kind of cool
um but honestly yeah it's just it's everything i mean like when we first met we always talk about
2016 music like that's what we kind of
turned into and that was i mean that was a lot of rap like life of pablo kanye west
birds in the trap travis scott like which doesn't really necessarily translate but like
that just was what got us excited and then what it was like damn kendrick lamar coloring book uh
um i mean were you guys only yeah i mean i guess that's all rap but like
just that music was like our era and then we kind of turned it into a more pop thing over time like
even like we were huge like brockhampton fans at that time and even like yeah that whole frank yeah
exactly i mean i was trying to think of anybody in that category. And then I remember when that 1975 album came out,
what's a brief inquiry?
I remember like you were listening to it
when I got to school and I was like,
oh, what's that?
And then we all started listening to that
and loved that band.
And they were cool at like,
he does some like spoken word,
sort of like auto-tune-y.
It's all becoming one sort of thing.
So then we were just trying to,
especially in the early stages,
like trying to mimic and replicate all those other groups.
And what was great about like Brockhampton, for example, is that there were so many people and they'd have like a super rappy song and then they'd have like bare face doing like whatever, like a ballad.
So then we were like, oh, we got to do a guitar kind of ballad thing.
And then like, yeah, back to like how we met, like I was doing the acapella tracks.
Jude, we met on the first day because we were wearing the same shoes.
And he was like, I wrote this song for my girlfriend at the time.
And I was like putting out my own music on like whatever, like CD Baby, just uploading it myself.
And he pulled out this project of exactly what I would do, which was like all the acapella tracks.
And I was like, oh, this kid is very similar to me in the way that he thinks about it.
So then once we figured out we could make music together and produce it then it was like what can't we produce together so we were
doing like pop songs like super whatever like kind of 80s inspired pop stuff or like rap stuff it was
just fun to like get up like get together and like cook up was what we used to call it you know and
like it was like hanging out at the time we were in sophomore year, we would record every single day of the week. That's so fucking sick.
Like a new song every day?
I mean, it depends.
So the song that Francis said that he liked was on our first album called Trouble Boy.
And that we worked really hard on.
It's like 15 songs.
I could tell.
Yeah.
That was my favorite.
Thank you.
I go deep.
Bro knows the one that Drake knows.
I remember.
You go deep.
Really a surface level kind of.
It would really work to, yeah, you know, for Drake.
Exactly.
For it all.
For Drake.
2018.
Be drizzy.
But it was so much fun.
Like we would all come over to my apartment in my tiny little bedroom.
And I had like the iMac and the little interface and the MIDI keyboard and the electric drum set.
And we just like go to town.
And it was fun to like treat it like we were locking into the stew till like four in the
morning.
Like we go to the deli twice, like get our little food, like do a little walk and then
come back.
And like there are posts if you scroll all the way down of us.
Like there was one I remember after school on Friday, we like worked from like two to
two or whatever.
And like the before and after like
we were obsessed we joked too that like we had our website and like our first t-shirt all like
designed before we ever like actually played together as a band like we were just so into like
the brand and how are we going to make our shows cool and like how are people going to interact
with the website and all that shit so we were like super inspired by all the guys doing it
themselves that we were like we can do this ourselves too.
Like we can make a Squarespace account
and like make a YouTube
and like make a custom ink account
and just...
It's crazy that you like had that much vision
about like the brand and everything.
But like one of the things
that's making it take off the most
is just you guys being like stupid as fuck
singing in your like apartment
like under a blanket
and stuff like that.
Like Andy Samberg.
You do look shockingly like Andy Samberg.
You've got to be tired of it by now, though.
No, well, I think it's fucking awesome.
We need to get to him.
Andy Samberg's the man.
He's the best.
I think it's funny just because
I don't see it, but I do understand.
That's crazy to not see it.
I see it, but it's not like... I see it less and less. that's crazy to not see it i see it but it's not like literally people
actually less and less like they're like socrates like yeah you must get have you ever gotten stopped
in the street being like are you andy sandberg no no really that's crazy nobody like mistakes me for
that's crazy i could see that i could see that happening yeah it's it's that it's robbie shapiro
is big like we call these the shapirs these guys
like yo you're gonna wear the shapirs today um has andy sandberg reached out to you guys
no i don't even think he's on gram i don't think he is either scrolling reels like you guys should
do a song with them that'd be sick oh my god i gotta tread that line though we don't want to get
yeah you don't want to get into like but it's fun and like we're like when you were saying earlier whoa we're just saying we would love to do it like i'll totally
do it that would be so sick i just think the lonely island is very funny but i also like
we're so stupid on the videos that sometimes it's funny that like that's what people think of us as
right now right it's almost a revelation coming to your music and being like oh they're not playing at all that's what's great about it like we i mean i guess
throughout this whole talk like we've kind of established like we've done this we've been doing
this there's music to discover and like now that we're bringing people in in this different way
and then they can find it on their own yeah also just puts more emphasis on i feel like when people
complain about whatever artists having to make tiktoks or having to be on social like it's sort of just an excuse that like they can't find their
own way to do it and I think it's been fun to figure out how we can be funny but then also like
it doesn't it's definitely pressure but it's like it just means that the music has to be
that much that much better and we just have to keep making good stuff and when people are like
I have the best song but like because of the algorithm it doesn't get discovered it's just like there are so many amazing artists
who i've found on tiktok who you would have never you know what i mean like random people singing or
random artists or whatever so it's like or shout them out bro i mean i'm trying to think of like
who i'm thinking of even like for example there's this dude named elijah solo have you ever seen
this guy he's a guitar player and he plays with his band somewhere literally in Africa.
And it's this dude with a TikTok account and he like films them making a song together.
And like this guy now, this guy, Elijah, has gotten his guitar loop from this TikTok like sampled like whatever, like a hundred thousand times.
That guy, RJ Paskin, who does like stuff like that where it's like, like oh there are people who are genuinely really talented who are coming up through social media and like when people
discredit it by being like it's so dumb or like how's it going to translate i just think it's not
the right take and for us it's always just been like okay now that we have more eyes on us like
just means that the next song has got to be like that much better or like it's got to be that much
more engaging so it's funny like when ron was telling you guys and you're like wait they're
a band like that's what we want like that's great because i think it's one of the
it's like one of the joys of being in a band is like the camaraderie and like fucking around and
everything and it's like sometimes there's this feeling it's like if only people could see like
how we are but now you guys really legitimately have that like in your pocket at all times just
like oh this is just like how we hang out and it's like your best marketing tool in some ways because people want to root for you because they're like
oh they're the type of people that like i feel like my friends and i are it's like this is the
kind of way that we hang out or fuck around we'll say that people are like i some people are like i
wish i could be friends with these guys or i wish i had friends like this which is like just so sweet
and then also people are like this is exactly my humor. I didn't know other people thought this was funny.
And that's kind of how we feel.
The singing shit, we just do that every day.
You've been doing that for how long?
Seven years?
Usually we do it with our own songs
where we change the lyrics
and just make fun of them ourselves.
And then it turned into doing it with real songs
at any given time.
And then we just started filming that.
And it's just funny that people think it's great
because it's just what we do.
What was the first goofy one to to pop that really went stupid
well that's a great story this is a really good story it's like so remember okay yeah we were at
we were at a major label at the time um and like the guy that we were working with there put us in
a meeting with like the social media managers and we like had a zoom call and they were like yeah man like i was just those guys are always dumb as hell yourself like i don't know i
can't better yeah it's so yeah so stupid and we got off the call being like okay like all it really
made us feel is like exactly what sora said earlier it's like you just have to do it yeah and
so we were just walking around and like we went to get like jerk chicken or something and sort of just film me singing um
what's the king do a god like i can't say the name of the song now that i'm thinking uh
no church oh yeah wait i thought yeah it is no church i thought it was a different song i thought
it was a different song uh but no no church in the wild like what's the king do a guy what's it
and it's just me on the street singing it. And we just let it be.
We ate our jerk chicken and then we checked it and had like 27 K.
What?
Yeah.
That's so sick.
It's crazy.
And then it just started going and like,
we had never had that happen. And then honestly,
like we kind of just did that very periodically or sporadically,
I should say.
And then like only now in the past couple of months have we done it like,
and just kind of leaned into it and our thing. And now like people are like kind of doing it trying to sound like us and like
that's cool um you gotta get in their car where they came from it i think like get your own style
it's just fun no there's some funny ones but other people no no i'll say i can't hate you
guys should just you guys should make a total pivot and just start getting real nasty in the
comments yes we're gonna get we're gonna start getting real nasty in the comments. Yes. We're going to start beefing.
Getting people's DMs being like, fuck you, posers.
That's true.
It's really funny.
People associate songs that aren't ours with us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We stole Blueberry Faygo from Lil Mosey.
Yeah.
Lil Mosey.
That was a banger way before.
No, he did it.
That was way before my time.
That was a banger.
I was bumping that all day.
But I'm just saying, people now are singing that and they're thinking of you two fucking in the backyard singing it.
So stupid.
I think what's been fun about it all, too, is, like, we have been so lucky to be able to tour at a young age and have the van and, like, have those opportunities that, like, you're right.
Like, there's no reason we shouldn't use that as our biggest advantage of, like, maybe have an idea of like okay i'm seeing
my favorite artist i don't know what their day is like they're probably on like the pj to the arena
you know what i mean obviously we're playing at like 100 cap rooms on this last tour or like our
last headline thing so to show people like no like we literally watch them load all their shit into
the van from the last show drive sing a dumb song and that was three hours ago and now they're here
like it gives people a
little bit more of like a sense of like what it's like to like actually hang out with us and give it
like a little dose of perspective of like it's not super luxurious we're all in one hotel room
like we're all farting and like wake up super late and like go to bed late and we're in a van
together but that's but that's that's what makes it super fun so it's like we owe it to everybody who follows along that like they deserve that content of us just
fucking around um you guys might be in the good old days it feels pretty it feels pretty good
middle of the good old days right now it feels pretty good no that's how it feels it's like we
we have to have fun like we have to enjoy. And we take it very seriously most of the time.
But ironically, these moments where we're just being stupid in ourselves get us in a room like this and get people to get our heroes literally hitting us up just in ways we never thought was possible.
Yeah.
And I think we're lucky, too, that we're from here.
We have so much support here from our friends and our fellow, you know, homies who
collaborate on our songs or sing verses or whatever. Like, it's been great. I mean, even
Skyvon, like we just met through my middle school friend. And since then, like, it's just nice to
see how this sort of thing that we've created can extend to like all our close friends and like put
everybody else on and eventually have like a little New York gang of artists and musicians
who are like all under the same wing, which has really cool who's uh who's the musician that you guys
would be most excited to feature on one of your songs i mean probably drake i mean like the drake
thing was so insane because that's our guy like we were like like, what else? Like, wait, did you go to Drake and suits? We did.
That's just hilarious. Before Henry and I,
for my birthday,
went and saw the,
it's all a blur to her.
And we wore suits and everyone was like,
why are you wearing suits?
My line was,
it's a special occasion.
Yeah.
I used to go to Michael Buble in suits.
We would go to suits for Michael Buble.
I haven't met you yet.
Bro.
So hard.
It's hard.
Yeah, no, but I mean, Drake, dude, don't shoot for Michael Bublé. I haven't met you yet. Bro, so hard. It's hard. I would bang.
Yeah, no, but I mean, Drake, honestly, the guy we're trying to get to notice us now is Justin Bieber.
Ooh, Justin Bieber would be a cool one.
We got to sing.
I'm kind of in the Bieber today, I was going to say.
You're sort of baby era.
I didn't mean this.
This shirt was given to me in New Orleans.
I was there this weekend.
Nice.
I know you're from there.
Nice.
I wasn't there for Mardi Gras. I was performing. It didn't really go that well. was given to me in new orleans i was there this weekend nice i know you're from there i miss i
wasn't there for marty grau's performing um it didn't really it didn't really go that well
it's a weird sort of like entertainment city did not glad yeah glad you guys didn't listen
to yesterday's episode because we were telling some nasty things about new orleans it's a weird
it's a weird city because i love new orleans music city which it is but it's also like it's
like free music it's like oh i can go and like watch the street performer dance and like get a margarita.
Who's the old lady?
They're like AGT as a city.
Yes, exactly.
It's like people just like whoring themselves out on the street for all the tourists who
are like, that's cute.
Like, this is great.
I could film you playing like trombone on my story and then like fuck off to the restaurant.
So you guys never had to do that, that like Nashville grind where you're the people that when you get off the plane you're in
the airport playing a song no i love nash i love that it's dark my mom's whole family's yeah i
love it down there i think it's actually a really it's a crazy music industry city like all the
labels not or like all the like publishing companies and stuff are all down there i
remember touring belmont college or something which is a music college and um yeah it's just wild it's a whole
different world like you think there's a music scene in every kind of major city and there is
but like down there it's a whole different like a lot of writers writing for other people a lot
of artists pop off from there it's like the last place that they are before they pop off yeah
you guys with beyonce making a country
album do you feel the pull to sort of throw a little country into the same texas
i definitely love me some good i love love me some good country i think there's already some
stuff in the in in some of them in some of the songs i feel like also whenever there's an acoustic
guitar being picked people are like that's a country song it's like when the 975 we brought up earlier the lead singer has a line
where he's like the best songs even if they don't end up sounding like it kind of have a country
foundation yeah like whether it's just like the chord progression or just like great like those
great country melodies so honestly all jokes aside like we do think about that sometimes because
those those songs are so like, great songwriting songs.
What's the saying?
It's like three chords and the truth.
Three chords and a moonshine.
I love it.
Chris Stapleton, I was obsessed with.
Johnny Cash, I loved back in the day.
Tyler Childers is fucking sweet.
I know Tyler Childers.
I mean, Morgan Wallen, you can't disrespect the man.
Zach Bryan. Zach Bryan, I love too. Blakeen, you can't disrespect the man. Zach Bryan.
Zach Bryan, I love too.
Blake Shelton was huge for me when I was like 10.
Shelton from The Voice.
Country will always be there though.
You can turn 40 and just be like, I'm a country artist now.
Yeah, in my dad's dream.
For us, it's more so we're not like, okay, this is going to be a dance album.
It's going to be a country album.
It's sort of like a melange of things.
We pull and then we sort of assess. We're trying to get better at it too because it's hard to like
i think the biggest blessing and sort of curse about being in a band is like everyone here has
had their own things that they grew up with that they love you know what i mean which we all
sometimes we've realized that when you try to put it all into one song or like one thing it can be
difficult to like like we always joke that like we can all play multiple instruments.
So there'll be like five bass lines on one song.
It's like,
there only needs to be one base going on here.
So it's like the work is actually like,
I feel like we could sit and think of ideas all day.
The work is like editing it to make it like it is a mix of influences,
but like it's clear what it is or like you can get a vibe and it's like
oxable and all that stuff.
That's the least sexy part though for sure oh yeah absolutely and like down absolutely by the end of
writing and making stuff like it's really nitty-gritty for us and like you're just like
do we need this layer do we need this and like sometimes that's also the curse of like doing it
all on the computer it's like you can't make all the decisions sometimes i wish like talking about
the good old days like where you're just recording just live and it's just that's the song that's it yeah yeah how many
tracks do you guys put like uh say you have like uh 12 or 15 tracks on a on like a project that
you put out how many tracks do you cut and then whittle it down to 15 it depends honestly though
it gets cut down early like we don't we're not like sitting with 20 complete songs and cutting
it down like we started with a bunch but then like very quickly we learned let's finish these ones
these are the songs and a lot of times you'll start especially because we're producing on a
computer like it'll be like we'll do the instrumental or there'll be a lyric that'll
start it we'll do like the first chorus the first verse maybe another little section and
they're like a hundred of those like half songs and then we kind of have to be like that's cool
and then what's fun about also like kind of having everybody sing or everybody being able to
sing is like if you throw something down at least vocally then it's cool to like wait to see what
everybody thinks and maybe someone on their own time is like i think that's cool i'm gonna lay a
verse on that or i'm gonna do that and then it's like the energy sort of picks up so sort of it
naturally widows down to like the ones that we're
all hype on and want to add stuff to and there are songs that are good but also sometimes we'll be
like this feels done or i don't know how to add to this or like this is good but i don't get the
vision kind of thing so naturally a bunch of them sort of just come out of the woodwork and we're
like this this should be it i mean we used to like just write how many tracks we wanted and like fill it in one by one be like the first song's got to be like us in our spaceship blasting off
and then the third song is like us on mars or whatever like a full concept but as we kept going
like we just keep writing all the time where it's hard to widow like narrow it down we don't wait
down we whittle whittle it down you guys ever consider the deluxe album LeBron
like LeBron
LeBron
I love that
I knew that that's
what they were going to do
LeBron's actually
A&Ring our next album
that's what we're here to say
I was waiting for just
an excuse to bring that up
that video is so
fucking funny
we brought that up
recently
we did
I forget when
what is it
I don't know if I saw it
LeBron claims that he
like created the deluxe album
who was it for
that he did it
as a publicity thing he A&R'd r two chains album yeah doesn't mean anything yeah
and so there was like all this press where it's just videos of them in the studio and then it's
like a funny clip where he's just sitting with two chains like what if we cut off the last two
tracks and give that to them like next week yeah and do like a second thing it's great it's like
classic lebron like aBron just plainly lying.
So I'm sitting there and I'm saying like, alright, but picture this
deluxe album. And everyone's like,
no way.
And it had already been done for like decades.
No hate to the king though.
We love the king.
It is hilarious that A&R
does not mean anything.
Especially in the way LeBron thought it did.
A&R is like artists in relations. What does that mean anything. Like you just have a job as an artist. Especially in the way LeBron thought it did. A&R is like
artists in relations.
Repertoire.
But like what does
that mean?
Repertoire.
Ideally it's someone
who like listens to your music
and is like
this stuff is really good.
This is who you are.
Yeah, what?
Sets you up with producers.
Sets you up with songwriters.
Like kind of like
it's like
Such a vague title though
that anyone can like claim.
The whole record industry
is vague. It's like I'm an A&R. I'm trying to be an A&R. It's like... Such a vague title, though, that anyone can claim. The whole record industry is vague.
It's like...
I'm an A&R.
I'm trying to be an A&R.
It's weird, but...
Yeah, LeBron is probably
the greatest A&R of all time.
Yeah.
Created the deluxe album.
He's also the greatest father of all time.
Cooper.
Probably the greatest cook of all time.
I'm sure he's a great chef.
Incredible chef.
Have you ever seen the videos of him reading?
Yeah, yeah, of course. It's just he's one page chef. Incredible chef. Have you ever seen the videos of him reading? Yeah, yeah, of course.
It's just he's one page into the book.
One page into the book. It's also all young adult novels.
No, but he said he read The Godfather
like seven times during one playoffs.
Oh, really? I keep on reading The Godfather.
He's so dialed in.
Highlighter sections.
He went Zero Dark Thirty mode
and just needed a fucking good book.
The Kobe one where he's like, I remember I saw him that night and I said, he's getting dropped 70 tonight.
I told my boys.
He's dropping 70 tonight.
I told my boys.
There's so many good clips.
The clip of him and Marcus Rashford where they're on the shop together and he's like, my coach used to always say like, whatever, like you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
And he's like, oh yeah, that's my favorite saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who said that? Ask my boys. You could always would always say that favorite saying ever what was the one uh he's got
fuck i'm trying there's one that i'm trying to think of he's got all the the music ones oh the
ones of him rapping where he's just he's not he's yeah there's no other words every single year
respect that first day out one where he's in the gym yeah oh with t grizzly it is like the shave
head it's a great one of him talking about his favorite he's in the gym. Yeah. Oh, with Tee Grizzly. It is like the shave head.
That's a great one of him talking about his favorite Titans in the NFL.
Like his favorite.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then like, it's him.
And he's clearly looking off camera and someone found the website with all the people he said
in order.
And he's listing them.
Like it's like scrolling.
It's like George Kittle.
I love Kittle.
It's just blatantly word for word.
I love Kittle. It's just blatantly word for word. I love it.
I think for how much media coverage he gets,
he has done it spectacularly.
For how much he gets covered,
he's as kind of squeaky clean as he is.
One of the funniest LeBron videos
is the one where he's at a club or something
and there's two girls chasing him.
Have you seen it?
And he goes the other way down the escalator.
He's flying down the escalator. He's flying
down the escalator.
He's a great example.
He's never cheated, I heard.
Remember I saw LeBron and I said he'd never
cheat in his life.
Too loyal.
That's actually my one problem with LeBron is he's too loyal.
Too loyal.
Too hard of a worker.
Cleveland!
Cleveland!
Cleveland!
Cleveland!
Cleveland!
So is your guys' documentary, can we watch, like, is that out anywhere?
Or will we be able to watch that?
And did you guys cut that yourselves?
Did you guys edit it? We did it all ourselves.
Like, it was just us in our studio, like, which was just like a basement.
And we had our stuff set up.
And we just had, like, sometimes we were handheld, like Skyvon is right now, on that camera. Or sometimes just literally our stuff set up and we just had like sometimes we were handheld like skyvon
is right now on that camera or sometimes just literally a tripod set up like and was it all
that camera yeah yeah and it's just shitty ass camera trash having people motherfuckers
going to la tomorrow um and we're screening it there this weekend and then it's gonna come out
which i nobody knows.
But I'll say it right now.
What are you guys flying out to LA?
We're a big plane podcast, by the way.
American.
Like a Boeing.
We're not American.
We're cheap.
We're last row, too.
Yeah, I put us in the back.
This morning, I kind of clicked us all last row.
Look, there's actually nothing wrong with last row.
Yeah, I'm with you.
Last row is better than some of the other seats.
I've seen a video that's like, is there a better way to exit planes?
Yes.
Going off the back.
Yeah, or like there's this whole thing of like what if it was like all aisle seats
or all window seats, all middle seats, all aisle seats go at the same time.
Yeah.
To get on the plane or to get off the plane?
To get on, sorry.
Yeah.
But it's always tough.
Well, some planes, they have two doors, which is nice.
That helps.
Yes.
That's only when you're flying like far.
Actually, LA, they might have that.
So what about like, are you guys the kind of guys who are like, the plane lands and you get up?
Like, I hate that.
We don't get up, but we clap.
We definitely clap.
Yeah, I clap.
Yeah, we're clappers.
Actually go in the cockpit and shake their hands.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I love that.
Can I talk to the captain really quickly?
Don't honor the pilots like that.
I don't anti-American.
I fly and I went through a big
phase where I was
obsessed with planes.
Now I'll judge the landing
in my head.
They're coming in way too hot.
I did that.
Every time I land at LaGuardia
and you're landing over the water,
I'm like, this is it?
Are you guys pre-checky or clear?
I'm clear, but clear is
all-time scam. Biggest scam of all time.
Really?
Oh, he's wrong.
Because Clear initially was like no one really knew about it.
It was pretty low-key.
You just need to keep updating.
Now you need the ocular kind of...
Yeah, see...
The meta?
The meta quest?
It used to be like...
So you pay like $100 a year for Clear.
It's included with most of my credit cards.
And now you find out.
Now you're like, oh, I'm going to go puff something.
And then you'll go puff.
No, exactly.
He's right.
You go puff now, and it'll be like, oh, you just earned three years of clear for free.
And then you get to the airport, and you're like, wait, how does every single person here have clear?
And then you realize that they're just handing out clear left and right.
Yeah.
But now there's like an elevated clear
that's what I'm saying
you gotta keep updating
and getting the latest
and greatest
you gotta earn more stripes
in your box
a list clear
it's bad
the only good one
is TSA PreCheck
which I don't have
yes
speaking of
I sometimes have
you gotta like do
like a little interview
and move on
yeah
I just purchased
the AMC Movie Pass
which I've been telling Edgerton.
It comes with Clear, I think.
Yeah, Clear you get a free month.
I guarantee you don't.
You get a free month.
You don't have to take your shoes off
when you buy your popcorn.
Exactly.
So what does that get you?
Unlimited movies?
Three free movies a week,
which is more than I see.
And if you basically,
it's $25 a month,
so if I see two movies a month,
I'm already making my money.
Yeah, that's good.
And then if you get a small anything, they'll just upgrade it to a large for free.
So they get you with the popcorn still.
But it was great.
I saw Bob Marley, the movie Alone.
That was great.
How was that?
It was good.
It was sort of like what I told them was like, have you guys seen like the Disney plus like Giannis Antetokounmpo story thing?
I don't think I've heard of it.
That's what it reminds me of.
Like it was very Disney Channel.
Like, it was very, like,
Bob has all the answers.
Like, oh, no.
Like, there's war.
And, like, you got to do a charity show.
He's like, I got this story.
It was a story, yeah.
It wasn't very...
I saw Ferrari with Adam Driver,
which was pretty bad,
but worth...
Really?
Worth seeing it by...
Oh, that was...
I thought that was supposed
to be really good.
Oh, no, I'm thinking of
House of Gucci.
Well, they saw...
I think they saw House of Gucci and were like, Adam needs to do an Italian accent I'm thinking of House of Gucci. Well, they saw House of Gucci
and were like,
Adam needs to do
an Italian accent
one more time.
House of Gucci.
House of Gucci.
We saw it for your birthday
and it was really bad.
That one's bad?
I liked it.
You liked it?
We were the only ones
in the theater
just shitting on it.
We were yelling
at the screen the whole time.
I love Lady Gaga, though.
I think I cried.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I think I saw it
on an airplane and cried.
That'll happen.
Elevation.
You gotta bury that.
The thing about being up in the air on the airplane will make you cry no matter what.
I remember flying with my mom one time and she was watching The Martian.
And I look over when he's getting beamed up to the spaceship and she's just bawling.
It's a great scene.
I was like, mom, he's not on Mars.
Matt Damon is fine.
I was like, I know, but they saved him.
I think I cried listening to Friends on an airplane.
I think I cried listening to you guys.
I got so caught up.
You meant our song.
No, your guys' song.
You got so caught up.
The show on podcast.
I've never watched that in full.
I've never seen it.
I have a question.
Just like side note.
So like with these kind of podcasts and stuff, right?
Like when do you throw the ads in?
Like when you're like, all right, this episode is sponsored by.
Oh, we'll do it after.
Oh, so you just do it after?
We spliced it in.
Yeah, we just spliced it in.
We'll probably put it in right here, to be honest.
That's actually funny.
Probably where all of the ads will go.
You put the ads in.
This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. That will be a good transition. That's actually funny. Where all of the ads, you put the ads in this episode.
That will be a good transition.
No,
it's a good question.
Yeah. We just do it at the end and then we just throw them in.
Super easy.
You think Rogan memorizes his ads or you think he's just gone?
Dude,
the best part about Rogan being on Spotify is you just can skip.
Oh,
fuck yeah.
Oh yeah.
I write through them.
I'm sure.
I don't even have to like do like the 15 seconds. No, you just go all the way Oh, fuck yeah. That's the best armchair expert. You don't even have to
do the 15 seconds head.
No, you just go
all the way to the end.
Track.
Yeah.
Track it all the way over.
It's fine.
You guys big Rogan heads?
It's perfect.
You guys should go on Rogan.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll go on Rogan.
And then you'd be like,
we were on some other
bar stool,
I don't even,
whatever the fuck
it was called.
Bullshit.
That's when you get to Rogan.
What would Rogan say?
Rogan would start talking
to us about something
that we would have
no fucking idea
but you guys would make a joke
and he'd be like
he'd be like
yeah but like the pyramids
like I don't understand
how they were built
and we would just sort of be like
we went to Beacon
we met when we were 14
and like
he'd be like
but have you seen this video
of this guy getting mauled
by a bear?
Jamie, pull it up.
Jamie.
He would tell you to try DMT and you'd be like, we went to Beacon.
We tried that in sixth grade.
That was chemistry lesson number one.
Is that what they meant by fast?
That it was the bad kids?
Yeah, I still don't know what the fuck he meant by fast.
You know, got into drugs.
Good shit.
When I started hanging out with my friends now
when I was in,
like,
going into high school,
my mom would always say,
that's a,
you're running with a fast crowd.
That's what that means.
Live fast.
The St. Anne's kids
were supposed to be
the fastest kids.
Those are the fastest.
But even the St. Anne's parents
would worry
when their kids
were going to beacon parties.
No,
the St. Anne's parties are...
Oh, I know.
Those kids are fast.
I heard a story about...
Those are some fast kids.
I had a friend who went to St. Ann's
and she told me that they would do this thing every year
where they would all get super fucked up
in freshman year and play a tackle football game.
That's right.
And they would just all get super wasted
and then just like, here we go.
Like 11 on 11, we're fucking charging.
Actually sounds kind of fun.
Yeah.
Sounds like a blast. Yeah. Sounds like a good way to get severely injured let's do it for can
we do it for barstool yeah 100 those kids are those kids are really fast though i mean they're
really those kids get into like cutting at a very early what are we talking about
they're out of the womb they're just they like, get me out of this womb right now.
Oh my God.
I love the idea of cutting being like a misbehaving thing.
That's fast.
You're running with a fast crew.
All hurting themselves.
You know, huffing and hallucinogens.
All that stuff.
You guys know.
Those guys are trying to kill themselves way too early on.
We've got three years until that social acceptance.
Not you guys.
I'm saying
at beacon yes yes you don't know what it's like being high in gym class at beacon
we one time crazy i told this right yeah yeah yeah we can cut it if you don't want it no this
is perfect this is great for this is actually very sort of like puss so it'll be it'll be cute
like we thought we had like a cbd joint like we thought we were just basically taking the edge off
how much more lame can you get?
Yeah, we couldn't have been more lame.
I got a CBD story in high school too.
Okay, good.
You'll tell it right after.
Why don't you just tell it right now?
You know what?
No, no, no.
I want to hear theirs.
No, go ahead.
No, seriously.
So short, we smoke it.
It's not CBD.
It is, as Henry likes to say, Delta-8.
I don't know if it was actually Delta-8,
but it was weed.
And Itai and I, who's not here,
we had class right after. You had gym.
And we had science class.
And we were there like five minutes late.
And I was wearing these leather pants.
We walked into
science class and our science teacher says,
You're interrupting the lesson.
Yeah, exactly. You're interrupting the lesson.
You're loud in the hallway.
Squeaking in.
Through the door they can hear like, exactly. You're interrupting the lesson. You're loud in the hallway. Squeaking in. Through the door, they can hear like,
yo, we're fucking late as fuck.
That's hilarious.
And then we walk in.
He's like, you're late.
And then he looks at me right in the eyes.
He says, I can't get mad at you
when you're wearing red leather pants.
They were red too?
Out of Mr. Mott.
And Isai and I just started dying laughing.
And we had to end up leaving the class a little bit early because we basically couldn't handle being as high as we were in a science class.
Physics of sound.
We were building a speaker.
Man.
It was great.
Mr. Mott used to let me use my phone as a calculator on the desk, which was like rough.
He knew you were high.
Like a flappy bird.
He was wearing a fedora.
He knew what time it was.
It's hilarious to be like high as shit walking down the hallway and being like, my pants are so loud.
It had like that.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay.
You were CBD'd up in high school?
No, my story is not nearly as funny as yours.
I remember when I turned 18.
What'd you say?
You already kind of teased it.
Right, right.
Make something up. This is like the deluxe of teased it. Right, right, right.
Make something up.
This is like the deluxe album of this segment. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll cut this one.
We'll cut this story because it is not funny.
But no, I turned 18 and at the time.
That's sick.
That's awesome.
But in Massachusetts, I think they turned the tobacco laws so you had to be 21.
But I wanted to buy something now that i was 18 so i went to the
gas station i bought cbd gummies i took like three of them before school and it turned out that they
had like insane dosages of melatonin in them so i was in school and i dude i've never been that
tired and then i and then another time i did it again and i went to the gym i took pre-workout
with the gummies because i joe rogan said cb
john belushi died right right it relaxes your muscles and it they offset each other and i had
like this most severe panic attack and i had to go home and i just i had to lay in the dark while
my mom made me like a sandwich it was i was like i was taking the cbd being like man this is gonna be so relaxing
and then i was just having the most intense panic attack for like six hours straight you think that
you're about to have the best workout ever it's gonna be like your new remedy yeah yeah new like
routine it was terrible but yeah that's my don't trust everything you hear on rogan that's great
no no you should you should trust everything actually you know what? Yeah. Yeah. Rogan is God.
Yeah.
It's a fucking fact.
The first time I did mushrooms, I did it with my friend Jasper.
And we were in my apartment and we were trying to rent Secret Life of Pets.
Oh.
And I remember for some reason I couldn't get the TV to work.
And I thought my dad had left the apartment for some reason.
So I kept calling him over and over again, over and over.
And he walks in from the next room.
From his bedroom, he's like, what's going on?
And I was like, oh, we're just trying to rent Secret Life of Pets.
He's like, I think it's on a streaming.
I don't even think you have to rent it.
And I was like, oh, okay.
And he just walked out.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You think he knew?
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Definitely.
Really?
I feel like that would be pretty tough for a parent to be like, he's high on mushrooms, right?
Well, the story actually continues on.
We watched Secret Life of Pets.
We then decided it would be a good idea.
I used to live right by the Intrepid.
We thought it would be a good idea to go and smoke a J outside of the Intrepid.
Granted, it's my first time doing any sort of mushroom psychedelic.
So I don't eat anything the whole day.
I'm like, I heard an empty stomach is good.
So I go.
We smoke this joint.
We're walking back.
I've eaten nothing.
I remember saying to Jasper, like, oh, my stomach feels kind of weird.
Next thing I remember, I'm on the side of the road.
Like, he's, like, slapping my face.
This woman's like, we got to call an ambulance.
He's like, no, he's super drunk.
Don't worry.
It's totally fine.
I wake up the next morning with, like, a huge black eye. From't worry. It's totally fine. I wake up the next morning with like a huge black eye.
From him slapping you?
Yeah.
Oh, wait.
No, you missed the.
Oh, yeah.
I had blacked out.
Like I had literally passed out in the middle of the street from not eating anything.
Jasper like drags me by my feet to the side and is like waking me up.
And the next morning I was like, mom, dad, I got a little too high and I passed out.
And my dad was like, you're an absolute idiot.
You also had the biggest show of our life
to date that day. It was cool that I had the black eye.
You definitely looked gnarly.
The next day when he woke up.
Right.
That was my first mushroom experience.
Bowery Ballroom.
We were 17 and we had
sold out Bowery Ballroom and Sawyer shows up.
He's a massive black eye. It was lit though lit though yeah it was it was cool that's badass
pretty badass yeah but then everybody was like what happened i was like i was like um yeah i
just i passed out like i had gone too hard like jasper and i want to run i passed out that's even
more badass well i had like pat tie that we had in, but waited to eat till after it had worn
off.
So he didn't like puke.
That's what we thought.
And it was like at home waiting for me.
That's nice.
Beef pad thai.
Fuck yeah.
I had pad thai last night.
Pad see ew is the one though.
Nice.
Ew is great.
Drunken noodle.
I'll actually now go for it.
Big ass noodles.
Yeah.
I like the big, I like the big noodles.
Do you guys have like a go-to Thai spot then in the city?
No, they're all the same. Okay. It's all just slop. All right. Kill noodles. Do you guys have a go-to Thai spot, then, in the city? No, they're all the same.
It's all just slop.
Last night was Nana Thai.
They're all just slop.
Is there a place called Soother?
I'm going to shout out Soother.
It's on 13th and 2nd.
Oh, yeah, that place.
That place is really good.
That was my birthday dinner before we saw House of Gucci.
Yes.
If you remember correctly.
I'm kind of hungry right now, honestly.
I know.
I actually have to jump.
Yeah, let's wrap it up.
Can I quickly shout someone out?
Shout out whoever you want. Get it all off your chest.
Ruby Weingartner, my beloved sister,
is the number
one fan and listener
of this here podcast. Are you serious?
She is seeing... Ruby.
She is seeing Sass and Madison
tomorrow. Nuh-uh.
Does she live out there?
And Francis.
And Francis.
You don't.
It doesn't.
I wasn't going to mention Francis.
Yeah.
I'll just be there.
And so I just wanted to shout her out because I love her.
And yeah, she's a big fan.
She cried when we said that you guys talked.
Yeah, she did.
Can we give Ruby, you have a pass to the green room.
Come say hi.
That would be great.
Come hang out with us.
We're very well behaved.
We don't do a bunch of dudes like I'm Ruby.
Yeah, I'm actually.
What's good?
I'm Ruby.
In fact, it's going to be very disappointing.
Maybe we don't want to.
Do you guys ever get that?
Do you ever have people try and come back to the green room?
No, actually, I don't think that's like a new thing that we've been getting.
I was getting.
Oh, no, yeah.
There was this one time
at Irving Plaza.
Take a load off.
Take a load off.
So, at Irving Plaza...
Skyvon's here now.
I was...
We were all...
You guys were opening
for Neon Trees,
and so we had, like,
the bottom kind of green room,
and then they're upstairs
or whatever,
and so...
There was this girl who was in the crowd, like you have to kind of enter through the crowd to get to the
green room it's like faster than like going up this back stairs or whatever so there's this girl
who every time i walked past would like grab me and try to get me to get her in the green room
and she was like it's doing a lot and uh doing too much too much yeah Yeah The mostest
Did she get in?
No the security guard told her to stop
Thank you security
Wait quickly
Not a green room story
But we played Irving Plaza when we headlined
And I remember I was watching
Like the crowd before we were going to go on
And these girls up front like pulled out white claws as soon as they got there.
The security guard kicked them out right away.
And as they're leaving, my girlfriend is coming in.
After having hung out with her friends pre-gaming.
And she was like, what's going on?
Why are you outside?
And they were like, oh, we got kicked out.
And my girlfriend's like, oh, I'm dating Sawyer.
Come right on in.
She had no ticket, no reason of entry for these people,
but somehow she miraculously-
She did?
Yeah, she got them back inside.
How about confidence?
What's the name of this ep going to be?
What do you guys want to name it?
I don't know.
I'm just thinking about what was the line.
Oh, the fast crowd.
Yeah.
Like that.
Fast crowd.
We could go-
That's tough.
Is there any kind of Justin Bieber bait
that we could throw out there
to try and like
collab with who
dream collab
dream blunt rotation
with who
by who
just I was like
barely we what
oh man
yeah thank you guys
for having me
thank you for having me
it's been an honor
so much success to you guys thank you boys you guys crushed it thank you man alright thank you guys for having me. Thank you for having me. It's an honor. So much success to you guys.
Thank you, boys.
You guys crushed it.
Thank you, man.
All right.
Thank you guys.
We'll be back on Monday.
Oh, come see me and Francis in Madison, Wisconsin tomorrow and Friday and Saturday.
Tickets at FrancisSells.com or LilSassQuatchWebsite.com.
Goodbye.
Yes.
Bye.
Thank you.
Wow.
Yeah.
Thank you, guys.
Yeah, that was a good time.
Yeah, let's do it.