Son of a Boy Dad - Old Basement Tapes | Son of a Boy Dad #314

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

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Hey, son of a boy, dad listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Hey, let's have a good one. What do you say? I think this is going to be a big time episode. Big time. Ready? Yeah. Yeah. Alrighty, welcome back to the Son of a Boy Dad podcast. Today it is May 27th, Tuesday. This comes out Thursday, correct? Let's do it.

Does it? What about the ones, so we have a bank full of, man, your hands look strong as hell. I know. Are you beefing up your hands? I have been. I can tell. Gaming a lot as hell. I know. Are you beefing up your hands? I have been. I can tell. Gaming a lot.

Oh. Claw. Check this out. I got this at Dwayne Reid. Because I know you guys have been complaining about the lack of AC in here. Is that a finger fan? You'll see. Holy shit, dude.

Should we see if it works? Oh my god. That's so Asian. You'll see. Holy shit, dude. Should we see if it works? Oh, my God. That's so Asian. Oh, my God, dude. Oh, no.

Oh, there we go. Now, what's amazing about that too is that with the waterproof iPhone, you can actually turn that into a boat. Yeah. You can make a getaway. This thing barely works. Yeah, but if you just put it under the back of a dinghy. They say it works better under.

This is going to be so good for scrolling at night while it's dead. I think it broke. Imagine how good it will be for gooning. Yeah, dude, post jerking off. Let me take five. Let it calcify on your belly or yeah just dry it down like a paper mache project that's it a post jerk-off press

conference candle wax in your face did pretty good started off seven hours everyone knows we were pushing for the nine hour UN SESH today but seemed like you really found something in the fifth hour there. What do you think that was due to? This thing is hilarious. That's great. I'm proud of you. If you held it above your head you could probably inspect your gadget the fuck out of here. Oh yeah. You might be able to just float off into the distance. The boat. This thing being a boat. That's great. I'll unplug it. It's a little bit of a distraction.

Yeah. Like unfortunately it doesn't come with a case of any sort. So a little hard to get around. It's quite fragile. Did you ever see the other guys? Yeah, of course. Hilarious. There's a moment there.

I think the funniest part of that movie is when Samuel L. Jackson and Rob Riggle, right? The two gung-ho detectives decide to jump off the building and aim for the bushes. Aim for the bushes. Yeah. They do it in slow motion. Yeah. I thought it was that, is that not the rock? It is the rock. I'm so sorry. I've always fantasized about a movie starting that way though where the main character dies It's so nice. That's got to be one of the funniest movies ever the other guys So the scene where he's at where they're in the fucking

It's like the therapy for the cops who misfired their weapons It's like he drops down a 12 gauge. Let's see if in the odds. Remember that part where they're telling the stories. I'm going to be honest. I've only seen that movie one time. Oh, it's so good. So good.

But I enjoy Feral. Remember when Mark Wahlberg tells a story about shooting the dude? Is it A-Rod? Oh, oh, Jeter. Jeter. He shoots Jeter. Yeah. It's that scene. I didn't love the movie. about shooting the dude is a rod oh oh gee de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de and Ted. I don't know. That just felt like it just fell a little short. In truth, I saw it long after when I probably should have seen it in my age. You were too old for it. I don't know about that.

I saw it like two years ago or a year ago. You gotta rewatch it. No, I won't. You have to. It's hilarious. Will Ferrell's wife. Maybe you, Soder, Nick Mullen watch it together. Just a little watch along. Okay. Is that always nice? Is that always an option? Do they have some sort of like movie review podcast or something? Is there a-

I feel like that would make it funny, no? Watching it with two of the funniest guys? I'm sure, yeah, it would probably make it funnier. But that, Will Ferrell in that movie is hilarious too is his hot-ass wife That's funny. I liked that What are you wearing? She's like a supermodel It's hilarious. I think you look really nice. Yeah, I heard that he method hit it

Really? I heard that he was hitting Eva Mendes just to be method and getting super annoyed with her. Imagine Ryan Gosling finding out that Eva Mendes' previous fuck buddy was Will Ferrell. There has to have been some Hollywood overlap where it's like, you fucked Rob Schneider. Yeah, I know. Absolutely. You were fucking Chris Farley. He was funny.

Oh shit, I feel like I'm there now. I hear a whistle. Absolutely. You were fucking Chris Farley. He was funny. Oh shit, I feel like I'm there now. I hear a whistle. My partner's. Bro, you're going to get us demonetized. He tosses me down a Mossberg pump. I send one through his chest.

See, this isn't doing it for me. I don't either, man. I don't know why. Really? You don't think that's funny? Watching, you know, be a lot better if the fan were connected to the phone. Or if it was in context, it was out of context for me. It's really not. I just don't remember. You guys have both seen the movies.

I just don't remember the movies. You didn't even turn your phone to give us the full, it was just this tiny thing. I couldn't hear it. I think I watched the full Bin Laden documentary like this. Two black bars to never forget. Yeah. I always got to be, I got to have something else open.

You know, you get the Bin Laden documentary in the tiny top right corner. You scroll. You just move in the window around so you can get, oh, ooh, bottom right. I thought this game was fake. That, when they created that, the picture in picture on the iPhone, slippery slope,

they knew what they were doing there. They knew that they would never lose us. Yeah, that's them trying to take everything. They're so greedy. Yeah. That's a recession indicator right there. Big time. No one's going to work.

No one's working their jobs. We're definitely in a recession. And I'll be the first to say it. I saw it. You are the first to say it. And you keep saying it. You're going to wish that into existence. I'm not wishing it saying it. You're going to wish that into existence. You're going to say that so long that when a recession does happen,

you'd be like, see, I was the first one. Yeah. I listened to a show that said three recession indicators are, uh, longer skirts on women, low-rise jeans on women, and Lady Gaga songs. What? They said that since, they said that since in 2008, Lady Gaga had a song like,

just don't worry, just dance. And now that Lady Gaga is having some kind of resurgence or Lady Gaga acolytes are now making their own music. Is it because of Abracadabra? It could be Abracadabra. Yeah, I think that's why, right? But I think that that show is acting like there hasn't been any dance music made in the last 17 years.

Yeah, that's true. There definitely has been dance music made. Yes. That's tough for Lady Gaga though, kind of a lose-lose situation for her. Right, anytime she sticks her hairy bush out there, she's just getting fucking... Not really a lot of opportunities for her to make money Even though she's probably so rich She's big-time in her 15 million dollar townhouse

Remember when her when remember when her three French Bulldogs someone tried to kidnap all of them and The guy that was walking the dogs they shot him no really yeah, and there's audio of it. No He's like what are you doing? No I've been shot No, he didn't die and then Lady Gaga put out a reward yeah for the dogs Obviously, but not for the guy. I don't know what have you ever seen seven psychopaths No, no, you haven't it's good't? I think it's a good movie. That's what it's about.

It's about a guy who kidnaps dogs. That's loosely what it's about. But the movie is really good. You guys would like it. It's with what's his name from? Oh shit, I love him. It's with that freak from White Lotus. Sam, what's his name?

Talent. No, you know what I'm talking about. Morel. The dude from season three of White Lotus tells the crazy story. Bankman Freed? Sam Rockwell. Oh, I love him. Yeah. Oh the guy who did the what did he do like a crypto scam? No, that's Don't even joke. That's you

People lost their lives people's dogs were kidnapped over that scam and now you're fucking laughing You have to be insane to steal Lady Gaga's French Bulldogs from her clearly gay dog walker. But I think that's the whole point. Isn't that like you steal her dogs, she puts out an insane reward, probably 50,000 per dog, and then you go cash in the dogs. You're like, you're never gonna believe this. All three. But I found them being walked by a gay guy who had stolen them and he wouldn't give them over, so I shot him.

I killed him. You're welcome. Where's my bounty? I bet it was an inside job by the gay guys. It was probably the gay guy just telling his gay friend, just rob me, shoot me. Like I could take it. I've been shot on before. That probably happens too.

I mean, dude, they're saying, you see that they're saying that Kim Kardashian, they finally found, the people that robbed Kim Kardashian are finally going to jail. That it was three French bulldogs stacked on top of each other. Yeah.

Trying to avenge Gaga. The one that Kanye had to leave his concert for? Was that? Yeah, he jumped out of his concert. He was up on that floating stage. That was kind of the beginning of the end for Kanye. Oh, the floating stage. I totally forgot about the floating stage.

Things really started to fall apart at that point. I think the last cool thing he did was the water when he did the show with just the water on the floor. Oh, that was SNL, right? Was that SNL? No, I think that was like a Kanye thing. That does sound cool. I mean, he does have an eye for aesthetics.

Do you think he's going to ever ditch the whole Nazi thing? I think it's just like, I don't know, he's just an edgelord. His Reddit occasionally comes up on my Reddit, and he'll tweet and be like, I don't hate Jews anymore. And then they'll screenshot it and post it on Reddit and be like, he's finally back. The king is back. Yeah, he's finally back. The king is back. Yeah, he is back.

The true king is the Jews. Like he was taken over by like a demon. He acts like that. He acts like being bipolar is a blanket excuse to be a bigot. Hey, Jews. I think he also is someone who is trying to just go so far out there. He's the type of guy who, from a fashion perspective, he would be like, I'm gonna make clothing

out of human poop. Oh yeah, big time. And people would be like, dude, don't do that. Which is Lady Gaga too. No, I'm gonna make poop clothing. And he would put out a whole line of poop clothing. And it would be awful. And everyone would be like, dude, this was a huge mistake.

No, people would buy it. But he would expect that somehow he could turn it into, whoa, what a daring move. So I think part of him thought being anti-Semitic openly was like crafting, obviously he's insane. Yeah, yeah, he thought he was like, yeah. But I bet you he also thought like, I can turn this into a-

Yeah, people will like this. Watching his streams with- Some kind of artistic statement. Yeah. And it's like, no, nobody's on board for that, dude. It's kind of like when really good comedians try to like put themselves in a hole, dig themselves out.

Like they say a topic and it's controversial and then they explain blah, blah, blah. A good technique. Yeah. For really good comedians. Yeah, it's tough. Bill Burr, Andrew Schultz blah. A good technique. Yeah. For really good comedians. Yeah, it's tough. Bill Burr, Andrew Schultz, they do that well. Yeah, it's tough when you're a musician

and the songs just are about you hating Jewish people. I also think that- And fucking your cousin. Yeah, he almost might've said that to be like, okay, well the anti-Semitism thing didn't work. Yeah. Let's see if we can get people to forget about that and go in another direction.

Look, I can't be inside the mind of Kanye. I don't know. No, I don't know either. I think that he, and when you watch this stream with Nico, I think that he is intentionally trying to find the edgiest things that you could say in a group of dudes where people would be like, whoa. I don't know why him and Elon don't just hang out more.

They used to. They used to be boys. I think that Elon is just insufferable. Yeah, I think everyone just hates Elon. I think that they're unstoppable force and unstoppable force. Like I think that their gravitational pulls reject one another, where on paper, it looks good.

I mean, I could see that being a real, like Musk West for president and vice who would be vice West. Musk West. No no you think that Musk is gonna or you think that Kanye is gonna bend the knee? No no true. He's gonna want to be prezzy. And Musk will never run for president because he can't because he's not from America. They'll bend the rules. He's an immigrant cuz he's a filthy fucking South African people are like wait, why is he long musk racist? Oh, maybe it's cuz he's from South Africa Maybe because he was born in most racist. Yeah in the world. Yeah a country that hung on to racism like Yeah it just most racist country in the world. Yeah. A country that hung on to racism like Kanye West, honestly. It's just clutching at racism as it goes away.

South Africa is fucking gnarly, though. I've been watching travel videos of South Africa and just going to the slums of South Africa. And you can't even film a travel video there. Why are they so racist in South Africa? What's the reasoning behind that? That would go back to how they were colonized. Understandable.

And it became a country in Africa that has a huge white population that has remained. So, like, when, I I think when a lot of colonial powers left Africa, so France left like Algeria, Morocco and stuff like that and Portugal left Mozambique and on and on, the white colonists remained in South Africa. And this created a power struggle, which continued through Mandela.

Mandela was imprisoned. Yeah. And there was, you know, when he got released from prison, he was elected to lead the country. But there's still, that was apartheid, right? Yeah. Do you know about that? A little bit.

Dana him. Apartheid was right? Yeah. Do you know about that? A little bit. Dana him. Apartheid was like legalized segregation, I think. In, there were laws, like almost like Jim Crow laws. Yeah. But that was through the, I think it was through the 80s. Those were existed. Oh wow. The 1980s.

Damn. And then Mandela came along and said, no more. Yeah. You guys gotta watch that Rodriguez documentary I was talking about. Oh, I know, I wanna see that, searching for Sugarman. Yeah, it's great. I would like to see that.

Sugarman makes it sound like he's a... Makes the best snow cones. Yeah. Or that he's like a Jewish cocaine dealer. Oh yeah, a little bit. Sugarman. Sugarman. Won't you help me? But you know one thing that is my

favorite from South Africa? Rodriguez. The way they speak English, the English accent. Yeah, it's like a roll of the Rs and like a crispy tea. I think it's the best. Go back outside.

You have to go back. Anglophone way of speaking, the best version of speaking outside. You have to go back. Anglophone way of speaking. The best version of speaking English. Almost with the racism. Yeah, they got a little racism in the tongues there. You can hear it. It's like Dutch. It's like Dutch with a backing of like a little bit of British.

It's interesting as hell. What was that book about the kid who goes to South Africa, comes up in the boarding schools, and becomes a boxer? The Kite Runner. No, that was Afghanistan. And that had a rape scene in it that I have never forgotten. It's a book? The Kite Runner is. A rape book.

Yeah, I don't know how I feel about reading a rape scene. I don't want to watch one either. But you could just, it's like the Tyler creative thing. You could just like walk away. Yeah, just skip it. Just one page next. And you're like, oh, it's still going on. The Power of One is the book I was talking about.

Did you guys ever read that? No, but I feel like I've heard of it. Oh, it's good. I think they made a movie out of it so you could. Yeah, I could watch it start there. Kite Runner's a movie too. Kite Runner? Yeah. It's Afghanistan though, right? Yeah. Ra there. Kite Runner's a movie too. Kite Runner? Yeah.

It's Afghanistan though, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's rape. Yeah. More importantly than anything else. I think it was Afghanistan. Wow, what goes on in The Power of Juan?

In The Power of Juan, it's about sort of around the Boer Wars, which was the Dutch. sort of around the Boer Wars, which was the Dutch. They were the Boers, the colonial vestige of the Dutch imprint in South Africa. The Boers. B-O-E-R. You guys ever watch Out of Africa, the movie? I did. It's Robert Redford.

I went to the camp on my honeymoon where they shot that. Really? Where they shot that movie, yeah. Interesting. And they would play it in the place. Really? Mm-hmm. Just 24 hours?

No, if you wanted to watch it. It's a pretty good movie though. I've never seen it. It's a pretty interesting movie. Classic. It was out to a fire. Under the street. Is it about AIDS at all or mostly coffee?

I thought it was more about, like, ivory. And hunting and stuff like that. I thought they had, like, a coffee farm. Isn't the farm a coffee farm or something? Um... It was probably pre-AIDS, actually. I had coffee the other day for the first time in eight months.

Is that right? Liar. I'm gonna look up some of these facts that I've just shared because I'm not 100% sure if I'm right about any of this shit. They'll tell you, people will be like, I know. Actually you're dumb because you don't know this stupid thing. Where'd you get coffee from?

Starbucks. Was it elite? Yeah, it was great. What'd you get, the Nitro cold brew? I got the cold brew, a little splash of peppermint in there. Oh good, I was right about apartheid. Jesus Christ. Shit was phenomenal.

Peppermint in May? I love peppermint. I know, but- Especially in iced coffee. I reserve that for holidays, like nutmeg and cinnamon. No, no, no. I go peppermint in the iced coffee all year round. Really?

Yeah, but I don't really drink coffee. But that's like having a candy cane in June. No. To me it is. My palate just doesn't agree with it. That's like having a hearty ragu in July. Francis, are those your pills? Mm-hmm.

What you got? What you working with? These are the Resuva Statin. Statin? I was behind on my, I was behind on my picking up my prescription. So I had to get it on the way in and I'll tell you something.

You have these in your pocket, people know you're coming. Oh yeah. Especially on a city bike. Yeah, yeah. Is that a rattlesnake? Yeah. Sounded like Ilesnake? Yeah. It sounded like I had those beads on the back wheel.

It's like the- That shift around on a children's bike. Yeah. You know? Yes. Good heart health is coming. I always get nervous about that. Cause when I go to Dwayne Reed or CVS,

pick up my prescriptions, I leave with a fucking paper duffel bag and they got 19 bottles in there. And I'm like, I feel like every, I feel like someone's gonna fucking jump me for these. Well, now people know. Cause I got some bottles in there and I'm like, I feel like every, I feel like someone's gonna fucking jump me for these. Well now people know. Because I got some goodies in there. People are gonna camp out.

I got some sweet treats. People are gonna camp out over. Yeah, it's not just statins and antidepressants. There's some fun ones. Xanies? No. So what could, if it's not painkillers and it's not Xanax,

what could be fun? What could be fun like that? Like everything else, bro? You don't like beta blockers? Beta blockers. Slow down your heart rate. The beta blockers take a long time. Beta blockers don't do any you would you is you can't feel anything. Yeah, that's what I mean. That's literally just

blood pressure. I feel like there's very few medications that you could take that would be fun. Right away. Like you might have spend a couple weeks on the anti-depressants for them to start working. I get Klonopin prescribed, but I don't really use it. And when I do use it, I don't feel anything. Guys, I just have to say, I think I was wrong about the Boer Wars. All good. No, they're going to clip that without you having your... I know. I think it was between the English colonists versus the South African people who wanted independence. But they were Boers.

They were descendants mostly from the Dutch who had arrived there in the 17th century. So if you care, go look up more on that. I apologize for not knowing more about that. We cannot be people's history podcast. That is not what we are here for. There is other history podcasts. Go watch Twisted History if you want to keep it in network.

Yeah. Go watch Dan Carlin. You know what I mean? There's a billion fucking history podcasts that people could go to. I know, I know. You're here for a little quibbling. People hold me accountable

and I hold myself accountable. So. No, it's just that fucking moron bitch that tried to hold you accountable. Who's that? That moron that messaged you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That girl moron. She's the only one that truly wants accountability.

And we debunked her, dumbass. Yeah. I mean, I could plug this into my PlayStation controller, no problem. Because it's got the USB-C port. That's huge for you. You got the paddles going? Of course.

Yeah, you're paddling. Have you seen the things where people say that using, like creating an AI image generates, like it uses like four days of electricity? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Apparently, they say that Chad GBT is like insanely bad for the environment.

Yeah. So was farming crypto. Yeah. Oh, really? Why? Because it requires like server power that needs a lot of energy. Chat GBT is crazy.

If you ask Chat GBT something like crazy, if you ask them to like create an image, they say they're like, there's a million other people doing this right now. You gotta wait. They're like, they put you in a queue. Really? It takes like 15 minutes.

That's right, you gotta get premium. I was just making some posters for some upcoming tour dates and I was playing on the- You're using Chad GBT for posters? No, I got an example of what I liked and then sent it to a graphic designer who is the man. And I'm like, hey, just go off this.

Cause I like giving work to people. But I was trying to play on the poster of the Diddy thing. The trial? The fall of Diddy. So all my dates in the fall, I'm calling it the fall of Francis. And it's sort of like a two-faced sort of dichotomy. So on the left side is like a smiley happy.

And then on the right is shrouded in darkness. Damn. The face of a guy who had lots of sex parties and with kids. Just standing over Cassie. Yeah. That's good. And that's what you get to see. I'm sure the clubs will be thrilled about that.

Get that up on their grid. I bet it's a hilarious concept. Here's what it looks like. Oh, that's hilarious. That's amazing. You do that with chat GBT? That was the chat GBT. And then I sent that to how did you get chat GBT to do that?

You look like a winter's kind of well, what was your prompt? I said, please give me that. Keep the make a make, I don't know, make an image of Francis Ellis with two faces similar to the poster for the fall of Diddy thing. If I did that, he would come up with it. Every time I type in someone on AI, it does not make that person.

You ever see the- Maybe I'm not famous enough. They don't know what I look like. Well, I don't think it's because you don't post enough. Didn't you see Wallow talking on the podcast recently about how we need to post more? Look, me and Wallow have different ideas. He said, look, this is just,

throw anything at the wall. This is just the rehearsal. Yeah, but if I was as entertaining as Gillian Wallow, I would do that. But there's also, most people don't have that level of I can talk and no matter what I say, it's gonna be interesting. No bro, you actually do have that.

No, I don't. There have been already 10 clips from this podcast today that I think if you posted, I would watch and fucking piss myself. Share to people. Wallo and Gilly, like they have their phones on auto record. Remember when you did that thing with the fan?

That was great. That's definitely going on. That'll go on the grid for sure. For sure, or still image of that. Yeah. Hard post. It seemed like you were offended when he said that he was using chat GPT for, to make a poster.

Well, I agree with what he said about paying people. I use Sean's guy. Gardini? Yep. Really? I agree with what he said about paying people. I use Sean's guy. Gardini? Yep. Really? I didn't know he had. I got him to do it. They know I got you to do the reverse. Yeah, I know. I got you to do the reverse. I was aware when I did it. Felt really good. Really not. Walked you right into that one. I didn't know why I felt so good. No, it's really not that crazy. Walked you right into that one.

I didn't know Gardini had a guy. Sean? Yeah. Oh, he's got a guy. And you use him? Well, yeah. I've just started. He's pretty cool.

I'll find out his Instagram. Check it. I'll tell people to check him out. Why would you guys do that when you could just get the entertainment and service and art for free from ChatGBT? I know. I literally just will write into ChatGBT, Why would you guys do that when you could just get like the entertainment and service and art for free from chat gbt I know I literally just will write into chat gbt write a one-hour comedy special And it'll come up and i'll just be like no no no say this out loud

And i'll just set it up in front of my tv and i'll just watch the entire comedy special. It's so nice That would be insane it's a new wave that's what were, that's what they think is going to happen. They keep on, like they, they, I've said this in the, from the beginning. I don't think I'm really scared of AI in order. I really can't like the whole thing where they're like, AI is going to replace actors, going to replace comedians, going to replace movies. It's like, it's never going to happen. They keep showing.

They're like, they're like, oh my God, open, open AI three just dropped in. Look at these. And it's like, no, yeah, OpenAI 3 just dropped and look at these. And it's like, no, yeah, you can still tell. It looks like a fucking cartoon. Yeah, I think that will go away though. I think that will go away. But that's been, I mean, it's been five years. Madden graphics still suck.

Yeah, Madden graphics haven't changed in the last decade. Dude, I remember not, well, maybe 10, 15 years ago, I would go on and I would look for like Brittany Spears nudes and you'd go in and there'd be all these computer generated images. Yeah. You know, and they looked pretty good. Yeah.

That was guys splicing longhand. Dude, those guys were cutting magazines together. Yeah. Like ransom notes. And I think that we're gonna get very realistic blow bangs, you know. I mean, yeah, I think we will. Horse fucks Katy Perry. Yeah.

And she's like, you can smell the barn through the computer screen. I think we will get that, but I think it's always gonna, I think, I mean, at least right now, I think if you can't tell what's AI and what's not Like they should be teaching classes on that I've seen I still see videos of grandmas watching GTA. Oh, yeah, like oh my god. This is the news. Yeah Okay, dude People like there there's full

Like I'll get on Instagram like I'll be scrolling and it'll be like a girl picture will pop up and I'll be like immediately like that's AI and then I'll click on the profile and the whole profile it's just a not a real person but then you look at the comments and it's a bunch of dudes being like please let me touch you I want to fuck so badly it's a lot of Indian bros where can I send money it's a lot of Indian bros. Where can I send money? It's a lot of Indian bros just, you know, getting their, getting their nut off in the comments to a computer generated photo of someone that doesn't exist. Which, good.

It is, honestly, that is not the worst. Better than, better than like a tourist getting groped. Yeah, it's better than a real person. Yeah, better than having to spend your entire day with your digital camera hanging from your wrist as you walk through Union Square. With mirrors on your shoes. Multiple times, trying to find girls

that are sitting on the steps. But once the robots become sex. You don't even know if the footage is good until you upload it, is the problem that I've heard about. So you need something in real time where you could tell. You need, yeah, you need some kind of hey chat GPT Or any of these hips up skirts? Videos that well, that's what they want to happen

They want it to become a thing where you're gonna have a pair of these glasses on you're the whole day You're just gonna be like hey Chad. Hey GPT Mikey come on. Do I suck? Yeah, that's what and Zuckerberg wants to be the one who's like telling you. Didn't he say that he thinks that like AI friends are going to replace human friends like you'll have three real friends and then eight AI friends? Dude, they've been saying this about AI for so and every year. They're like, it's just it's right now. We're past the point of return.

We're fucked. Well, it's just the people who are creating all that have like Asperger's and like have like a lack of understanding of human connections inherently. So they're like, how could anybody have real friends with real people? How could that possibly exist? It's like, well, people do make connections with other people. They don't exclusively rely on equally robotic things that they've made from their hands. Mm-hmm. But I'm, I'm sorry, go ahead.

No, no, no, no. Please. You were finishing a thought, I want to hear it. I'm just concerned that when we make the sex, when we make the robots into sex robots eventually, the sex robots will get tired of getting fucked by the humans, and so the sex robots are going to have to build another class of sex robots. It'll be like a pyramid scheme of robots just building other robots to get fucked.

Just unlimited robots? That's just what I'm worried about, is that there'll be like a caste system of robots subjugating other robots, like just fuck this robot instead. Hey, this pussy is in aluminum. Yeah. What the heck? This is some kind of a composite. I already said I was allergic to nickel. I think it was. Now I

have a rash. That's the new STD is when you fuck nickel. I think it was in like 2018 in the New York Post we did that that article that went super viral that was like every people are gonna be fucking robots in the next three years. Look where we are. I'm not fucking robots are you be fucking robots in the next three years. Look where we are. I'm not fucking robots. Are you guys fucking robots? So maybe we should sue the New York Post. Yeah, for false claims.

For false claims. For false promises. Yeah, exactly. Where's my fuck robot? Sometimes the girl I'm fucking can't really tell. She's doing the robot. If she is a robot or not. You think that doing the robot. If she is a robot or not. You think that doing the robot will be like a mating call to the sex robots?

I think. That raises a lot of questions. Yeah. It could be seen as a slur, offensive. Doing the robot? Yeah. Yeah, well, it's like doing blackface. Yeah. You're not going to do the black guy. Yeah. We don't move like that anymore. offensive doing the robot yeah yeah well that's like doing blackface yeah you're

not gonna do the black guy yeah we don't move like that no anymore no these are very exaggerated and cartoonish depictions these are those are that's rock-em-sock-em robots that's like that's sort of, it's super, it's like the roots of... We're like iRobot is gonna be... what's that really old movie that was like the most racist thing of all time? Rush Hour? Yeah, it's like iRobot is gonna be seen as Rush Hour. iRobot's gonna be the new Rush Hour. It was like Birth of a Nation? No, that's not it.

If robots don't do it for me, I will not be getting aroused by a robot. Well, you've never seen a robot with that scion. True, true. Once they built a true scion. You've never seen a robot that like, specialized in standup comedy and video games. True. Or once, yeah, with that like specialized in stand-up comedy and video games. True. Or once, yeah, with that like Asa Akira donates her body to science.

They study her from top to bottom and the robot can do stand-up or and the robot can put you on to video game hacks that you didn't know about. Well, they also do that. They'll also post and be like, check out this new George Carlin hour created by AI. And then you're like, yeah, it sucks. I didn't think it was that bad. I don't even know how you could listen to that. I mean, I wouldn't listen to it, but I

thought that the way they created jokes in his tone were close. I also think that at the end of George Carlin's career, it was more like cultural observations that everybody would like clap at. Like war, like we're at war every day. Yeah. Like the real war is what's going on in the grocery aisles.

It's like, oh yeah, like just clap at that. Yeah. I don't know. I just could never listen. Like I could never, like if, if Louis died and they put out a Louis special, but it wasn't actually written in Louis, I would be like, I'm on, I don't care.

You'd be like, I'm not, I'm not gonna watch someone else try to write jokes from someone else's brain. What about an artist that only sang other people's songs that they wrote, like Frank Sinatra, maybe didn't write a bunch of his old songs. What if they would like, what if you could, someone could sing a Frank Sinatra,

someone could write a new one. Like, like they could make Frank Sinatra a cover. Lose yourself. Yeah. In the moment. Yeah, still, I don't think that would interest me. You can never let it go. You need real people behind things.

By the way, though, we don't know if that, that might become the norm. So if- For you. If it were normal for us to consume content that was created by AI, and that is what the best closest thing you had to Louis putting out a new special. You don't know in that world if that wouldn't be something you would want. I think going, I think if I was born into that world, yeah,

but going from being in this world to that. I think you might adjust. I think you might adjust. I don't think so at all. Your entire day is going to be taken up by looking at shit that was created by a computer. Oh, and that's such a departure from your day. Yeah, it is. It is. I'm not playing, I'm not playing video games. I'm not playing, I'm playing against real people. And the game was created by real people. I'm sure that they did use some sort of software.

Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure that those games, given, you know, they're not, it's not like 19 Disney, it's not like Disney movies from the early 90s where every frame is drawn or whatever. It's a flip book. Yeah. Yeah, I know that.

Now, I'm sure Call of Duty, to a large degree, is some sort of computer-generated graphics and programming and all that. You think this happened when Gutenberg made the printing press, where people were like, I'm not going to just sit around and read a fucking printed out pamphlet all day. I want to hear the stories from the horse's mouth.

I want oral tradition. I think you guys are in the wrong, to be honest. I'm asking a question. I like your version better. I actually appreciate sort of you adhering to sort of an analog future, because that, to me, feels safer and more comforting. And I want that to be true.

I just don't think that's going to be how it is. Yeah, the stock market would be better if we just like ripped off tick tickets and like just did it by hand. You're that's complete. You're that's an insane comparison. You're talking about altering like the entire world versus altering how the stock market works, which altered the entire world. Like it altered the global market. Yeah, but it's not the same.

We're talking about like, so like, so you want your video games to be like handmade from scratch. They are. And Do you know how buggy that would be? How glitchy? You want fresh ingredients in your video game, like a Wallace and Gromit cartoon.

I promise you the buggy things are not the things that they're making with AI. It's the things they're making manually, which is what you said. I'm confused by that. I don't know what I said. I just repeated what you said, but I tried to use it against you, even though you just said that to me. This is progress. This is progress.

Anyways, what I was saying was like the outdoors boys, the outdoor boys guy, Luke from the Outdoor Boys, he's gone, right? He quit YouTube. I watch his YouTube videos all the time. So if they start making AI videos of him catching fish, well, that's not going to hit. I'm not going to watch that and be like, wow, look at that. It's a big, it's a big brown trout that a computer created and had him catch. Here's what I would guess is that if it were something that people loved so much, and I hate to put it this way, let's say that Luke passed away instead of just retiring. So people knew there's no world where we can ever see him make new content anymore. And AI started putting that out. There would be people who would say, well, I can't have the real thing, but this is the next best.

Yeah, I guess there would be, but those people are weird. It's like people, to me, it's a bit like when they took away mango Juul pods and people were like, all right, well, fuck, those were the best and I like them, can't have that anymore, but they all went to those bullshit Chinese made sticks that you buy at bodegas. Or they started smoking the mint pods from Juul.

Mint went with mango. When you were in your Juul heyday, what was the flavor you liked the most? Mango, probably. It was the mango, right? What was the flavor you liked the most? Mango, probably. It was the mango, right? Are you talking about high school or are you talking about now? When Harry was doing it because he liked it as opposed to now where he does it because you start to get very agitated if you don't. Well, I'm going to start just smoking AI.

You are basically smoking crypto right now. But you were on the mangoes, then the FDA, right? Yeah, the FDA said no mango. And you said, well, okay, I can't watch Luke from Outdoor Boys anymore, but at least I can have the mint. Yeah, so you say, okay, I guess I'll go watch a worse version of Luke from the Outdoor Boys, which would probably be, you know, another outdoors YouTube channel,

but I wouldn't go, I wouldn't say, okay, JackGBT paste Luke's face over this guy so I can watch his face instead. If AI gets to a point, which I suspect it will. I mean, at that point, I may as well just have my Google glasses on and be like, make Ronan Francis Luke. I'd have an easier time talking to Luke right now, but this is that's a feature I do think people envision I think Zuckerberg is envisioning that future. Yeah, it's fucked

It's gonna get like that where you can't tell the difference between the real and the not good. I don't like that. I Listened to a podcast recently where the guy was like imagine the horror of the people who created the iPhone where Originally you had the history of the world and all the knowledge of mankind at your fingertips And it's devolved into a digital vape that you put under your pillow to suckle on whenever you want. Yeah or a fan Fucking bullshit, but it is the digital vape that you suckle on you just pick up every like two seconds it gets as good it's crazy but i also think that uh eventually people will like the innovation will be governed by how it serves people and i don't think that it will get to a point where it's not actually serving people like you're not going to have to do something you don't want to do. How do you know? Do you think you do stuff you don't want to do now?

Of course. Every day. Like what? Like technology-based. Get out of bed. This podcast. What's up? You're asking if I ever have to do anything technology based that I don't want to do. Yeah. Like what? Give me an example. For example, you were saying that everybody's just going to turn us into Luke from the Outdoor Boys and you're going to want to resist that future. Is there anything that is happening right now technology based that you feel like you

wish that you could have resisted or didn't have to constantly do? Oh yeah. Like Instagram reels, TikTok, all that bullshit. Yeah, but you don't post on that. Yeah, but it still comes up every time I open Instagram. It's right there, and then you get caught up. It's impossible to not get caught up. I don't even blame myself. Because you're hitting the digital vape.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So what would AI do to solve that? Nothing. Okay. But why is that technology that you get angry about right now? Oh, because it's brain rot. Right. So would AI solve that?

Am I finishing the sentence correctly here? Isn't that the thought? No. But there's something technologically that bothers you that you wish that AI could solve for? I think my point is that we just are still autonomous. Like, we still don't... We don't have to do the thing that just because Mark Zuckerberg is like,

these glasses will suck your dick now. Like, it doesn't... You don't have to... We don't have to get sucked off by the glasses. Yeah, except then what's gonna happen is you're gonna try it once and you're gonna be like, okay, yeah, whoa, that technique was unbelievable. Yeah, the glasses really know how to do it. Hand and mouth moving in sync.

Because they exhumed Asa Akira. Taking its time, not just getting it over with. Or like doing something unexpected, an unexpected tease move in the middle. Pushing it to the back of its genetically manufactured throat to create that more sort of viscous spit, which then spits in the base and then rubs all over it. And now it's all wet.

Now the whole thing is wet. Gross. Well, we're just thinking of what's on the board. We're gonna have to cut that. Can I say something's wrong with me right now? Why? I have a problem. I worked out yesterday and I started choking

on my own spit. Acid reflux. No, I was doing something that was hard, but wouldn't have been hard a couple years ago. I was doing- What kind of workout is this, bro? I was doing 10 burpees, five pull-ups, 10 kettlebell swings with a minute and a half rest

in between, and I was trying to do five sets. I finished the fourth set, after which the spit in my mouth was so thick that I couldn't breathe. Allergies. And I started choking. So I had to stop. And I thought I was suffocating on my own fluid. What'd you eat during the day?

Nothing unhealthy. I had a very healthy day yesterday. What'd you eat? Hours earlier, I had my oatmeal with a banana on top. That's all? Yeah. Sounds like there was a lack of fuel. That's not what caused this.

Sounds like you're running on A, brother. Because I know some foods are mucus creating. Chocolate milk is big on that. We could never drink it before choir. Yes, exactly. It would just, you'd warble. Yeah. But it doesn't sound like you had any chocolate milk

before this workout. No, I sure didn't. That's like an after workout recovery shake. When was the last time you like you had any chocolate milk before this workout. No, I sure didn't. That's like an after workout recovery. When was the last time you guys had a good chocolate milk? Mm-hmm. And you who does not count. And from home. Yeah, I'm talking chocolate syrup in the regular milk.

Mm, not for a long time. Not in decades? No. Yeah, I haven't had one in at least five years. When I was in college, best part about college by far, they had a, next to like the soda fountain, they had a chocolate milk dispenser. Wow. And it was good.

Yeah, I bet. It was none of the bullshit. It was the real deal chocolate milk. Well- It's like when you ever go to someone's house and they have the jug of chocolate milk. Oh, a big gallon. Not the gallon, but you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, we used to have that.

That would come from Oakhurst. They made the best stuff. We never had. Was Oakhurst, that's not a national dairy dispenser, is it? I have no clue. That might've been specific to Maine. I don't know. Oakhurst?

Oakhurst. Sounds familiar. It's probably in Massachusetts too. Barely had chocolate milk growing up. Really? They started supplying it at our school. Ooh, we had a... The little ones, the little ones that you'd have to push

the paper, you know, eight ounce. Well, my parents were so full of shit when it came to health. What did we have? What the fuck was it called? Like they wouldn't let me have chocolate milk. And he's got like, he's a cartoon character. Goddamn Pee Wee Herman.

Like he's the kid from Up. What did we have? It was like the True Moo? Is that what it was called? True Moo? While you're thinking of that, I cooked a dinner last night. I gotta tell you, I'm getting into cooking. That's amazing.

That's such a good, it's a good quality and skill to build. Francis, you've been into cooking. But also you kind of turn your brain off and- You're not getting into cooking. That's amazing. That's such a good, it's a good quality and skill to build, but also you kind of turn your brain off and you're not getting into cooking. You've been into cooking. Why are you mad at me? It's like two weeks ago, you were like, I made short ribs the other night and I threw up. I don't think short ribs are something that you get into if you're not into cooking. No, I know. I think I couldn't just bang out a short rib when I go home. Well, you don't have an oven.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So that'd be a little tough. I want to make short ribs tonight. Can I get a contractor in here between now and 6 PM? Can I sous vide short ribs? Yeah. I have a Ziploc bag and some heat in my sink.

Oh, so I don't keep trash in my apartment because of like food trash, food scraps, unless it's like actual food. I know that's not true. Yes, it's completely true. I've been to your house and over like the months when we're recording, there was like the same mostly eaten cheese it box that I could just dip back into or that sleeve of premium crackers that I could just like dip into the entire time that I was there.

You remember, it's the specifics. I'm talking about Cheez-Its and chips. Yeah, you're not gonna throw away a full bag of chips or a half box of Pringles, but that's not what the mice- Are those open though? No. Yes, they're open. No, you think I'm fucking crazy?

I don't know if soggy is something that matters to you No, no, I'm not having soggy fucking cheese's stale So I don't like cheese's it's the premium crackers the like the clubs the club crackers were open the box was open They're in individual wrapping. No, the sleeve was open and I was I could take that I wasn't eating under that sleep But then that's his point, which is that you left it. Okay, I don't keep food. And you didn't throw it away. You try not to. I don't keep food in my apartment.

And today I saw there was a fly in my kitchen. And I was like. It's a fruit fly. And I was like, where the fuck are you going? And I watched it and it went into the below the sink. And that's where the mice are at. So. You tracked it?

Well, that's where they originally were spawning from. So I was nervous and then I opened it up and there was a Trash bag under the sink and I was like, oh my god I was like is there food in this because if there is it has been here for months and I was in style and I closed the door immediately. I was like, why is there a trash bag in there? Oh, you just didn't even want to deal with it? No, and then I took it out. It was all boxes, luckily. That's what I was getting to.

Oh. All good. It was all, it ended up just being all like a... I can't believe you followed the fly like a private eye. Well, cause dude, I mean, if that was food in there, I was assuming I was going to pull the bag up and it was all the trash was going to stay and there was going to be like a pile of mice.

Mice orgy. Yeah. Ooh. I'm just picturing the fruit fly, like looking over its shoulder at you all the trash was gonna stay and there was gonna be like a pile of mice. Mice orgy. Yeah. I'm just picturing the fruit fly like looking over its shoulder at you and you like acting like you're reading a book or something. Yeah. Well, cause I keep my window in the warmer months

or especially around this time of year, like early summer slash spring, I like to keep my window open to get some fresh air in. Sure. But the problem is a ton of flies and bugs will fly in. You know what you can get is... Well, you can get even just one of those ones that's sort of like a sliding connector.

It can go in the bottom part of the... So you have your window open like that much and it can... you put it... The window will rest on top of it gently. Does this work for like a window like mine? Yeah, yours goes up? No, mine pulls out. Oh, then you would need a full screen. Yeah. You can do, uh, well. My windows are, I can't have an AC

in them. Another option is a sidearm. What do you mean? Like a 9 millimeter. Really? For the flies. For the flies? I think if there was like a, if I, if there was a mouse in my apartment and I had a gun, I would shoot the mouse. It would be a thing. It would be like I'd miss a couple weeks with the pod. Do you not have air conditioning in your living room? No. What about your bedroom?

My bedroom, I do. You have a window unit? Yeah. No, I have a portable tube. It sucks. Wait a minute. Where does that go to? have a portable tube. It sucks. Wait a minute, where does that go to? It's a tube. It's a massive hose like this thing.

And it goes in the window. Oh my God, you're gonna die. But there's a window unit that it's connected to, right? No, it is connected to, the tube goes probably six feet out and then it connects to this massive portable AC that's outside that's in my room Takes up 90% of the room. I'm confused. How's it been late? What do you mean?

Like where does it doesn't air conditioning have to a part of it had to be outside and part of it That's what the tube is for but those but it goes into a machine? It goes into the, it goes outside. Oh, okay, okay. Oh, and so... But it's not a window, I would never call that a window unit. Because it sits on the floor? It sits on the floor. And it blasts air into the room.

Yeah. But it is... It doesn't work. ...venting through a hose out to the sort of alley. Yeah. I see. So at best, I'm getting warm alley air. But it's not, is it sucking the air from the outside?

I think it sucks from there and turns it into cool water, into cool air. Isn't that how all air conditions work? I don't fucking know. They suck in the outside air. I think it was the Boer War. Yeah, it was the Boer War. I'm just saying,

you know, that's what I fights has a good one. I got to get his because he has a portable AC too, because he has those weird windows fights. If you're watching, let us know what your air conditioning unit is, you got to drain it into the bath, or just let it slowly drip onto someone walking past. And they're like, is that piss? No, it would be dripping onto my... floor. Hey, can I tell you something?

Sure. There are some things that you could do that would really improve the quality of your life. No, no, there's not. But were you gonna say AC? Well, there definitely are. You're just not willing to do that. Which I get, because I'm not willing to do the things that... They're not that expensive.

Like what? I'm not trying to be condescending or patronizing about your life. I'm trying to actually help you. Because I am a guy who resists change. I think a lot of men do. Oh my God. Right? You're looking for your jewel? I am, yes.

You don't have one. You didn't have it. I did. I do have it. Just tell me what you're gonna see what you're gonna say So I think well, you know this little tree figuring out a way to let your Stay focused in the pocket. There's there's a rare find full JP a Nice potty. Well now I knew where my tool was Anakin Skywalker doing work in the pods All right, Francis, how can I cool myself off? That's what I'm trying to help you with.

Okay, just say it, you can just tell me. Well, I think you need to figure out a solution for the window situation. And I think you need to get, because you like having it open and you've spent a lot of time in your living room and that's the only way for you to have it cooler in the hot months.

Is to have it, no, my apartment will get, it'll get like a livable, you know? Is that all from the unit that's in your bedroom? Yeah. So you need to keep that, that's a long hallway. I got an air purifier, it's helping out. But that's not cooling anything. Yeah, but it's getting shit moving around,

which I think helps when the AC is on. Do you have a fan in your living room? That is a fan. The air purifier is a fan. Three levels of fan. You need an Asian woman to, a geisha to manually fan you. You need air conditioning in your living room.

Dude, there's nothing, there's literally nothing I can do. I don't, I don't, I don't resign ourselves to that. Can I come do this with you? Francis, I'll send you a video. Would you let me? When I get home. I'll go home. I'll go home. To try to help you with this?

We're probably over an hour into the podcast. I'm probably realistically gonna be home in the next 20 minutes, right? Yeah. I'll send you a video of what my window looks like. There is no way in hell an AC unit is going in that window. The last dude that lived there, he had his portable AC in the kitchen.

But I think I would worry that that wouldn't make the room cold enough. But the kitchen is so much closer than your bedroom, which you're saying is the place from which all the cool air emanates, because that's the only air conditioner you have. I think if I put it in the kitchen, it would definitely make the living room cooler. But I think it would also make the bedroom less cool.

Well, you would, no, you'd get a second window unit and put it in your kitchen. Dude, these things take up a lot of space. There are different sizes. I, dude, I promise you there isn't. I was a window unit guy for years when I lived in Brooklyn Heights. They're huge.

Some are and some aren't. That depends on the power of the output. Yeah, you want a bigger one. Well, for sure to have it be more powerful, but you'd settle for one that still worked. Dude, my last apartment in West Village, I lived with Owen and Diggs, it was just, the AC was just facing my bed.

Like I had to, my problem at that apartment was that was too cold. I wanna get you back to that. I wanna get you back to that. And I've adjusted, my problem at that apartment was that was too cold. It was fucking amazing. I wanna get you back to that. I wanna get you back to that. And I've adjusted, you know, I've adjusted to more of a swamp lifestyle. See, this is what I can't.

Like I live in LA. Talk about flies flying around. You got rat orgies happening and mice. There isn't. This is such a humid, boggy atmosphere you're living in and you wonder why you're sick all the time. There's no mice or rats and I'm not sick all the time. You wonder why you can't recover to work out two days in a row.

I want to save your life. I have a fear of mice. That's why I take the precautions to make sure there's no mice. The precaution, which was to follow the fly. Yeah. Sometimes you got to get your nose dirty. Which was the messenger to the Bin Laden compound. Yeah, sometimes you gotta follow the fly,

figure out where he's going. What was that guy's name again? It was a literature. Yeah, it was Abu Ahmed, something like that. It was exactly like that. The messenger? Abu Ahmed. I think it was Muqtar.

Muqtar. No, but he was the bad guy that drove into the compound, right? But he was the messenger. No, no, it was, I think you're closer. Abu Ahmed, I think was the messenger. That's how they found him. He was the courier that brought the video. I thought Muqtar was the messenger. Muqtar? Muqtar was the Jordanian. He was his right-hand man, but he wasn't the doctor. And what was the woman that had the... But Muqtar was the messenger. Muqtar? Yeah. Muqtar was the Jordanian. His right-hand man. He was his right-hand man, but he wasn't the doctor. And what was the woman that had the? But Muqtar was the one that they were like, don't. No one could find out who he is. Right.

Yeah. Like when they were in Guantanamo. Yeah, the bad guy. Yeah. That guy. By the way, impressive that that guy, through all those enhanced interrogation sessions, never caved on Mokhtar.

Oh, they didn't get... I don't think they ever got, like, any information on those interrogation tactics. Really? Have you ever watched the report? I asked you that. I did watch that. You watched that with Adam Driver? It's all about that, yeah.

They didn't get dick. What was the guy's name? The dudes were just making shit up. I don't know if they didn't get dick. It was an acronym. It was like a three-letter acronym. It was like AOC or something like that. I don't know if they ever got any... I don't know if they didn't get dick. It was an acronym. It was like a three-letter acronym. It was like AOC or something like that. I don't know if they ever got any information from waterboarding specifically. Well, I think they might.

I'm sure they did get some, but the issue was that people would say anything to make it stop. Exactly. They would just make shit up. Yeah. It's hard to waterboard a religious extremist too, because they're like, I'll die and it'll be awesome. Oh, waterboarding is just straight up a form of torture now.

Does I got waterboarded in here in this office? Not really, though. How? It wasn't real waterboarding. I mean, it was. No, it wasn't. If you're laying on a table with a towel. You like didn't even cough. You like peeled it off You're like that was not that's waterboarding. That's what happened to you. Yes. What are you talking about? I on the act that I had to get waterboard that they were like just try it for 10 seconds or something And it wasn't that bad, right? Well, no because it was for 10 seconds. The problem is like that's like there's a there's a dude on YouTube I remember I watched this a while ago. There's a dude on YouTube who was like, he's like an ex...

He's an ex-military guy. Tim Kennedy. Is he the dude that did the... Did the UFC. And he did it. And he did the war warming. It felt like it was cleaning up my sinuses. Yeah. But it was his friend that was doing it to him. Yeah, right.

But he's also, like, the most badass, tough guy in the world. I think the way that a Navy SEAL or fucking Force Recon Marine experiences waterboarding is a little different from how we would. Yeah, but the whole point of waterboarding is that it's... I might be wrong, but isn't it that it makes it feel like it simulates drowning? Drowning, yeah. So the whole purpose of it is that you're horrified,

because you're like, I'm going to die. You don't know if it's going to stop. But that dude, obviously his best friend slash video editor is probably not going to kill him. As opposed to you where it was dead serious. No, but that's exactly what I said. I said the same thing. You know you're not going to die.

Who's the essayist, the atheist guy that was a really famous... Brooks? No. He wrote that book. Brooks. I'll look it up. Kepka? Brooks was here from...

Shawshank. Shawshank or Dempsey. Phenomenal. What a film. Atheist. I think he was British. Oh, yeah, yeah. Christopher Hitchens.

Hitchens. He was on the band. He did one of those experiments that I watched where he was British. Oh yeah, yeah. Christopher Hitchens. Hitchens, he was all the baby. He did one of those experiments that I watched where he was holding, he was saying waterboard me and he had these two weights in his hands and when if he dropped the weights, it was to signal don't waterboard me anymore. And he dropped them pretty quickly.

Yeah. And said that was torture. Yeah, it's fucked. What is the other one? What's the other water one? Chinese? Chinese was torture. Yeah, it's fucked. What is the other one? What's the other water one? Chinese? Chinese water torture. Yeah.

That's one where they just drop a droplet of water on you, right? No, that's when you have a daughter and you're tired of it, so you throw her in the river. What is it though? Isn't it just one drop of water and by the end it feels like someone's taking like a sledgehammer to your forehead?

They drop it right between your eyes and then they do it at irregular intervals. So you can't time it. And it leads to sleep deprivation, mania. I did it. I would easily be able to survive that. Yeah. Well, I'd rather do that than... Waterboarding. Waterboarding, I think.

I told you when I was at camp and we slept in the lean-to and the... There was a hole where I was sleeping and I was the whole night just... I guess I couldn't do it. I was freaking the fuck out. I was so mad. Dude, I'll say that the part from the documentary that bothered me the most was the sleep deprivation stuff where they were awake for 100 hours. Oh, yeah, that shit's insane.

Because I have a hard time sleeping, and they're playing loud music, and they're doing the strobe lights. Yeah. Like, crazy hard metal. Does part of you think, like, I'd find a way? I wondered, but then I thought, against that music... They probably make sure you don't find a way.

They find a way. They make you stand up so it's really narrow. Yeah. Standing up. I don't know, man. But I will, here's another thing I found out. I got curious about the band Slipknot recently. You know Slipknot? Of course.

Of course, yeah. I got really curious about them. Who doesn't? I don't know why, but I went down a rabbit hole of Slipknot. First of all, I'll say this. Their music is better than I thought. Yeah, Slipknot. First of all, I'll say this, their music is better than I thought. Yeah, Slipknot's great. I thought it was just screamo.

No, but there's melody. They go into these sort of more melodic bridges and choruses. There's a little bit of screamo, but there's musicology and real talent behind there, especially the drummers. They say that the drummers who have played, Slipknotz had a very rotating cast of the band. There have been multiple drummers and guitarists and Chris Fenn, I think, was one of the longer standing lead singers, but dude, their stuff was solid. And they're highly regarded as a band around the world. but dude, their stuff was solid and they're highly regarded as a band around the world. Not just by, you know, fringe people.

I'm aware of Slipknot. They're fucking cool. Yeah, they're sick. I like, but I will say the masks scare the shit out of me. They wear the clown masks. Clown number one one clown number seven Yeah, that does scare me a little bit. It'll probably be so fun to go to a slipknot concert I think it would be but those mosh pits aren't really even mosh pits. They're just full-blown

Yeah, but you don't gotta get in the pit. We could go like nosebleeds. I'd like to have a VIP Box. Okay, have a new groany shakar. We can see every board. You just sit the whole time. Yeah Our own private bathroom some bin just sit the whole time. Yeah, air conditioning, our own private bathroom. Some binoculars on a stick. Yeah. What did you say? We would just sit on a flip-knot, and then we met them afterwards for a beer.

Turns out they're really nice guys once you get behind the mask. I rather enjoy duality and psychosocial. I met the dude from ICP. You did? At Skankfest. Is that just one guy? I met the dude from ICP. You did? At Skankfest. Is that just one guy? I met the main guy.

I think there's a couple. Have they had a rotating band as well? I don't know. I don't know what's going on about them. I just know that one song. I can see Slipknot being a band that would not be pumped about us sort of being on stage with them.

You never know. They're not like they're not like, um... Jack Brine. Yeah, we're not going to be up there, like, taking a selfie behind them. I would get up there, break some shit. But I also don't think that they're cool with anybody's job or like career that they have. It almost seems like this counterculture type of music for someone who is working a hard job is like, I fucking hate the grime. These people are all slugs.

Yeah. Isn't that kind of what Raging As The Machine did too? And then now their concert tickets are like $600. And now they're doing like Apple commercials. Yeah. I wonder, do you think we should go to a Slipknot concert just to experience it? I would love that. I would love that, but what do we wear? Masks.

Yeah, that's clown masks. Or all white makeup with a little black in the middle of your lip. I might go Phantom of the Opera, just to be ironic. That would be funny. Just the wrong mask to a Slipknot concert? Yeah. Yeah.

All right, should we wrap this up? Might as well. I'm in Chicago coming right up That's at Rosemont the only place there are tickets left I hope to have some of you guys come out to that tickets at punch up dot live slash Francis Ellis Hairball, I got a bunch dates coming up in the fall more on that soon That's all I've got Well, their concerts look sick

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