Son of a Boy Dad - Tim Duncan | Son of a Boy Dad #312

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

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Hey, son of a boy, dad listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Alrighty, welcome back to the son of a boy dad podcast today. It is a day. Someone's getting called round. Your people and India Your races bro classic welcome back to the podcast we are here live from HQ 3 This is The podcast It's banked. This is a banked episode.

Do we not want to say that now? Cat's out of the bag now. You want to keep it going? Cat's out of the bank. No, let's just restart. I'll just restart it. No. Should we not say it?

Keep going. Let's keep going forward. I have no problem restarting. We've been going for two seconds. Should I restart? No. I'm being dead serious. Why would you restart? If you guys don't want me to say it's banked.

It is what it is. We've had to bank. We've had to bank for scheduling reasons, and this is the best we can do. It's because Sass is moving to Chicago. It's because Sass is on a month-to-month thing. Big Cat finally gave me the blank check that you guys have been asking him for.

Hairball is going on his big fishing trip and we have to ensure that we have episodes for Watches of Wed. That is not the reason why we're banking episodes. Is it not? Strictly for my fishing trip. No, the truth is that Harry and I are going to the Ryder Cup and that week we will be participating in that

the whole week and so we have to bank bank episodes and we don't do very often but we promise to be as funny as ever and We'll try bro. Don't even explain yourself. I know I know I don't even think you have to explain yourself You look too good to have to explain yourself. I'm surprised the hairball brought it up the banking banking I like to get ahead of it. You know? Because Tim Duncan over here with all the banking. Yeah, seriously bro. Living in the West Bank.

Speaking of, what side are you on with all that shit? Oof. I don't know. I was thinking about it today. Are you guys going to start like doomsday prepping at all? Like do you think it's a good time to just get the essentials? A gun. Like a gun.

That's pretty much what I'm getting at, yeah. I don't think a gun's a bad idea. Just to have. Yeah. I just worry I would kill myself. You know what I worry? Quick. Like within 24 hours.

In the store as you're picking it up. I worry that I'd be part of Clemmer's New York City basketball team versus Kirk's basketball team. And that I'd get into a beef with one of my teammates and then I would bring my guns in and say, choose one. You or Kirk? No, in the locker room. Put my guns down on the chair

and then offer him to choose. And then it would escalate into this whole thing that would get us kicked out of the league. Right. I say this because I've been watching Gil's arenas, Gil arenas. The Gilbert arenas untold. And Javaris Crittenden.

How is it? Javaris Crittenden. I looked it up, I never watched it. It's pretty good. I mean, you feel bad for Javarro's Crittenton and you hate Gilbert Arenas. Gilbert Arenas is an asshole, at least according to this documentary. He's this clown. He's a goofball.

He's one of the nicest people I've ever met. Shut up. Really? Yeah, we did PatBed with him twice, and the second time we went to his house, and he just had us in his house, and he was just so generous and like. Yeah, well maybe he's slightly reformed. He did seem contrite in the documentary.

I mean, he ruined Javar's crittenden's life. Well, what was the exact story? I forget it. I don't even think I know who had the gun. I just know that there was a gambling debt. Like in real life, I remember a kid at school telling me about it. Right.

Just telling me that someone brought a gun into the locker room. Well, what happened was, first of all, Gilbert Arenas collected guns, and he had 460 guns. Damn. He's a doomsday prepper. Yeah. He probably had like 2,000 cans of beans. That's how I'm trying to get it.

He's got enough guns for all the people that are going to be hanging out with him to go out. Let's go out as a team. Everybody grab a gun. I don't think I can fit 460 people in here. Get four guns each. Everybody grab backup. Who's he hanging out with?

Lara Croft? Just like a thigh strap for his guns. That's too many guns. That's what I would do. Gilbert Arenio. So anyway, what happened was they were on a flight from for a game. It was a short flight from LA to Phoenix.

And they were playing what? Very short. Yeah, they were gambling on cards. Two guys got into an argument. Javaris Crittenden inserted himself. He was like, why are you whatever, not giving him his money back? And then Gilbert Arenas was like,

why are you getting involved? He wasn't even part of it. He woke up from a nap and started giving Javarus Crittenden shit. And then it escalated and they started getting angry. At this time, Javarus Crppenden had played for the Lakers, at which time he became a member of the- Wizards.

Crips. Oh, Crips. Wow on the Lakers. Crippenden. Mm-hmm. Really? Yeah, he got a big C tattoo on his rib cage. Feels like an odd move.

Where is he from? Look, when you're in LA, you either, if you can't, you need protection. Do you? No. He has 426 guns. No, no, protection. Dude, he has 426 guns. No, no, Javaris didn't have 426. He only had one chromed out. Oh, OK. It was chromed out.

That's not terrible, though. One chromed out piece. Yeah, but one loses to 400 every day. Well, not always, because you can only shoot two guns at once. It sounds like he has all 400 ready to rip at all times. Yeah, they are loaded. Damn. No, I don't know if they're loaded. It's a lot of loaded weapons. I'm sure they are. That's probably like what that girl is walking around with in her backpack in The Last of Us. Oh yeah. She never runs out of bullets. That girl, I hate that girl. The actor? Yeah. The lesbian? Is that what she is? The autistic lesbian? Is she a lesbian? She's a lesbian,

right? In the show. In the show, in real life she's she a lesbian is it she's a lesbian right and in the show in the show She's in real life. She's autistic in the show. She's a lesbian. I can't watch that show It's too. She's too bad I I watched the first episode and that was it the third episode where the gay one Yeah, that was great, and then it went all downhill from there. I heard dude. Did you watch season one? I watched four three or four episodes of season one. Oh, so you didn't finish season one. No.

Should I? But you're watching season two? No. Oh, I thought you were watching season two. Gave up. OK. It wasn't gay anymore. Yeah, no, the show was.

They went back to straight. And I was like, I don't give a fuck about this. Well, it gets gay in season two. Does it? I don't love the post-apocalyptic. I like movies like that. I don't like show. I don't need a show

of just multiple seasons of zombies and viruses Yeah, yeah, I think they do a good job of it because I usually don't like shit like that And I've been it's been able to hold my attention really, but I just say I The only thing that I think you probably have the same thing going on is this 15 year old girl can't stop like whipping ass of bloodthirsty zombies and like grown men who would want to kill her and she never she never takes an L. She never fucking loses. So you know you know who'd put her in her place? Gilbert Arenas. Yeah. Yeah. I mean Gilbert Arenas is the perfect match for the little girl from Last of Us. Absolutely. That's not a bad, I would like to see that on like Deadliest Warrior on Spike. You guys ever watch Deadliest Warrior?

Yeah. Gilbert Arenas and he's just like spinning with his stats. I watched Fight Quest. Did you ever watch that? No. That was pretty good. What is that? Fight Quest. Is it similar to the Deadliest Warrior?

I don't know what Deadliest Warrior is, truth be told. Really? Oh, you would have loved it, it's so good. It would be like a Mongol versus a Hun, or something like that. Like two eras that would have never fought one another, but they would simulate a battle between them. Alien versus predator.

Similar, I think the biggest one they ever did was the Al Capone versus Jesse James. And it's sick. They do like hours of simulations and like tests. Wow. With the guns that those guys would use into like dummies and shit. And then they'd run a full like CGI AI created simulation.

Is it just one on one or would it be Al Capone marshaling his goons? I don't remember and Jesse James marshaling his goons. I want to say it was goons involved goons are involved Yeah, they're good. Yeah. Yeah, because I don't know if like Al Capone was known to have like the quickest Trigger finger or anything like because he was probably fat as fuck He didn't have to do any of that because he had guns. Yeah, he didn't do anything. I don't think Al Capone ever even killed somebody.

Or at least he was never charged for murder. He may have done. He probably did. Well, he had syphilis too. True. The silent killer. In that greatest warrior, they had Venezuelans against pedophiles too.

Really? Which was incredible. So that's a fun one. I haven't seen that. The real alien versus presenter. Since when are those mutually exclusive? I know plenty of Venezuelan pedophiles. They did a bunch of military ones.

They did like the KGB versus the IRA or something like that. That's cool. Yeah. These are cool. You should watch them. They're sick. They used to be on Spike. Spike TV? You can watch them on YouTube're sick. They used to be on Spike. Spike TV? I mean, it's not, they don't, you can watch them on YouTube.

Spike had some good programming. Of course. They did the ultimate fighter. Four men by men. Was that what it was? That's what I think it was like. They were supposed to be like them. There's bisexuals on Spike TV?

Four bisexuals? I thought that was Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. Four bi men. Fembomb. Take us back to Javarish Critton and joining the Crips. Yeah, I gotta hear more about that. Well, he joins the Crips when he's in LA, but he doesn't get any burn.

Phil Jackson doesn't love him. So he gets traded. Because he's Crip. Yeah, probably because he's wearing the wrong colors. Yeah. Hey, cut. Rep yo' shit, cut. Then he gets traded to Washington,

and he's embraced by Gilbert Arenas, and they get into that argument on the plane. Yeah. And Gilbert Arenas is just, is a guy who just pokes and pokes and pokes. And as soon as he realized that he's gotten under someone's skin, he continues to poke that. And that is not how Javar is critiqued. He does not play that way.

He doesn't play. Is it a bum with disrespect like that? No. That's not where he's from. He doesn't play unless he's on the court. And even then, I don't think he played that much. Then he plays professionally. Well, I don't even think.

He's a professional player. I mean, he was more of a garbage time type of guy. Yeah, he's a bench guy. Oh, really? He really doesn't play, period. That's crazy to have one of these scandals and you were on the bench the whole time. Well, just because you're on the bench doesn't mean you don't play.

Or it means you don't play. If you're bringing a gun into the locker room, you got to be averaging 30 a game at least. No, no. 15. But you have to have really good distributing. You got to have double doubles, triple doubles. You're telling me Carl Anthony Towns couldn't bring a gun to the locker room? He'd be shooting it like this.

Limp wrist. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stop. After all that, you're going to fucking shoot at me? He's gay. I think that Javarro's Critton joining a gang shows a lot about him. Joining a gang when you're already rich is... But he wasn't that rich. He was on a rookie contract.

He wasn't getting any playing time. Famous even then. Yeah. Even worse. I mean, it'd be like if Brock Purdy joined the crew. Yeah. It'd be like Brock Purdy's rich ass. Well, the thing is, is that Javaris' friends from back home in Atlanta said that when you go out to LA, don't assume that it's gonna be all glitz and glamour Hollywood, there are plenty of people out there

who don't play either. I think, yeah, cause he went to Georgia Tech. He was on the same Georgia Tech team as Thaddeus Young. He was on the same high school team as, fuck, who's the Magic Center that was really good? Dwight Howard. Dwight Howard, they played high school ball together. Yes, yes, both from Atlanta.

Gwinnett, South Gwinnett. This story runs even deeper than this. Where in Atlanta was he from? I'm not sure. Bad area. He went to high school with Nick Murphy, I think. Oh, really? I think that they were all in the same squad as Nick Murphy.

That's right. And Javaris for a moment worked at a pharmacy. Oh, wow. Yeah. So he was trading perks for guns. Yeah, he was making, he was getting codeine and trading it for guns. But anyway, they get into this argument and then Gilbert is trying to call Javaris' bluff and says, you're not man enough to shoot me because Javaris threatens to kill him.

And he goes, you're not man enough, you're not man enough. And in two days later, they had practice. and Gilbert, to continue this taunt, brought three guns into the locker room from his stash. And the first three on top. One was like a desert eagle. No, he looked through his wall. He spent time selecting. Selecting which guns he was gonna kill his teammate with.

Yeah. That he was gonna get killed with, right? Yeah, and he put them on Javaris' chair with a note that said, choose one. As in, I'm gonna give you the gun that you'll kill me with, I still don't believe that you're man enough to shoot me. And then when Javaris comes in, he sees the guns, it makes him angry, but because Javaris was worried that Gilbert Arenas

was actually threatening him, talking about guns and stuff, Javaris has brought his own gun in. Oh, the Chrome. His Chrome. Yeah. And they get arguing. It's crazy. And then Javaris pulls out his gun and is like, I don't need one of your guns, I brought my own.

And I think Gil had brought guns that weren't loaded. So when he saw the chrome, he thought, ooh, this has gone beyond my prank. I no longer have the upper hand. This is bad. And then it deescalated somehow. It deescalated, but all the guys in the locker room were like, I'm gonna get out of here.

Yeah, I'd probably head home. They're like Mike Miller. Who were they? Nick Young was on the team. Yeah, I know who Nick Young was. Two different people brought guns into the locker room. Anton Jameson? I would get in the car immediately. Yeah, I know.

There hasn't been just like a white guy, like a white center. 100%. Or like an Eastern European who's like, don't play like this. Yeah, just the second he saw it, just turned around and got back in the car. Yeah. Two different guys brought guns in today. Yeah.

Just getting home to your wife. Calling your mom on the way home. Yeah. Not even your wife. So two guys separately planned to bring weapons in today. But dude, the big issue was that Gilbert Arenas was stocking his gigantic arsenal by when they would go to places like Phoenix,

he would go to a gun store there and buy like a rocket launcher. And then he would fly it back in his gym bag on the NBA plane because they didn't get searched. And so he would bring that from there to Washington DC, which I can imagine has pretty strict gun laws. You know, you probably can't have a fucking RPG. Imagine if he had shot his teammate with a rocket launcher.

Especially just having it in the overhead bin. This is probably not. Yeah, yeah. Don't worry. Items may have shifted. I wrapped it in a sock. Yeah, I removed the grenade. It's sitting between ice packs.

I didn't crush them yet. So that he claims in the doc that the reason the NBA, cause they both got suspended for 50 games, which was a big suspension at that time. It's not that bad though, if you think about it. No, but it was the biggest suspension up to that point. I think he said it was the biggest suspension up to that point in the history of the NBA.

Damn. I'm surprised you don't just get kicked out of the NBA. Which seems- You guys know we have a three strikes policy on guns in the locker room. Then Javarro tried to, it ended up tornadoing his career because then he would, he got dropped from the team because Gilbert was a first all American.

I remember he had back to back 50 point games, I think. Jesus. In that season, one of which was against the Lakers, I seem to remember. Really good player, all star. But then he had tryouts for other teams and he didn't get picked up and the stench of his gun incident.

He wasn't good enough to overcome it. Stayed with him. And then he went back to Atlanta where he was constantly getting robbed because he would wear his $100,000 earrings and necklaces. You know, as he went to fucking TCBY. There's no crypts at the yogurt shop to protect him. Correct.

And so then he's got to fucking. Went to hunt down one of these bad guys that had stolen from him and shot him with an AR-15. Oh my God. And that guy was next to a woman who was an innocent bystander and he shot and killed her. And she died. And then he went to prison.

He killed her and she died? Both. Dude, this guy had a rough hand. And then he, and then he. So that joke about his card game that led to all this? Yeah, but you got dealt a bad hand. Well, then he goes to prison. He's sentenced to 23 years and he gets out after 10

because the prosecuting attorney at the time of his sentencing was Dwight Howard's father at the time of his sentencing was Dwight Howard's father. And gave him a cut a deal. I think it was that cut a deal with the judge or cut a deal with whomever to say like, I know this kid gave him the opportunity to be paroled and put on house arrest after a decade. So he only did 10 years.

And that's all happened for shooting and killing an innocent woman. And now he's out. And what does he do now? I actually didn't finish the doc. There were eight minutes left. But that's as far as I got. And by the way, you know, people will get mad at me for spoiling things. These are documentaries. Yeah, yeah. I think it's okay.

You can't really spoil a documentary. You didn't finish it. You're just remembering. You kind of just gave us a good teaser, because I'm definitely going to watch it now. Right. And then after that, I'm told Javaris Crittenton actually underwent gender reassignment surgery and became the lover of Dwight Howard. That would make most sense.

Who he was accused of, with whom he was accused of having a dalliance. Judge, I need you to let my wife out. I need you to let my prison wife out. Does Dwight Howard have a trans child or am I making that up in my head? Dwayne Wade. Dwayne Wade as a trans child, yes.

Yeah. Zaire. Then I saw recently an interview of Zaire. It was like for like fashion week or some shit like that. And Zaire. Then I saw recently an interview with Zaire. It was like for like fashion week or some shit like that. And Zaire was like, I want to be a scientist or something like that. It's like, they're like, I want to be like an icon, like fashion model and a scientist. It's like... Oh yeah, maybe the fashion model.

But everybody knows that women don't succeed in STEM the way they do. You had your chance. This podcast is all about women in STEM. What is there? Is there, did they add a letter to STEM? I saw a school that had a different letter in STEM. I don't know. But famously the president of Harvard got, right before I got there, got kicked out. For what?

Saying in an interview or an article that women's brains are somehow like less equipped for them to succeed. There's a scientific reason why women don't succeed in STEM the way that men do. Those dudes just, once they get the science in their head, they just can't turn it off. Like he couldn't bite his tongue on that.

Yeah. And be like, no, women are equals to men. Yeah. He had to get it out. He He'd be like, no, women are equals to men. Yeah. He had to get it out. He had to be like, they need to... Actually... It's just in a fucking, at a podium, at some Harvard meeting.

Like, dude, just don't say it. You don't have to say it. Yeah, just because you think it doesn't mean you have to, like, make that the hill that you literally die on. Yeah. No, I gotta get this out. But he ended up having a rebound on his career. I think he was named like Secretary of the Treasury or something. At Harvard?

No, of the government. Of the country. What's that guy's name? Who was that president of Harvard? Could you look that up? President of Harvard in like 2008? Charles Sumner. Sumner?

No. Sumner sounds like a Civil War ass name. And was he replaced by Drew? Drew Pass was when I was there, before her. Drew was a girl? Mm-hmm. What the fuck, what the Barrymore? What in the fucking Barrymore?

Summers, Larry Summers, that's who it was, Larry Summers. Larry Summers. And he just had to say it, huh? Yeah. Had to get it off his chest. He's the guy in the Facebook movie who the Winklevoss twins go and meet with him. Really? About the fact that Zuckerberg has stolen their idea. And he's like, I don't give a fuck.

Get out of here, you dweebs. Six foot eight fucking weird ass dudes. I need to get back to disparaging women. Yeah. I fucking busy again to did on when he was with the when he went on Theo Vance podcast. He was like so like shy. He was like, Yeah, they made like a little movie about it. Like acting like people didn't know exactly what the fuck they're talking about. Like that more people know about Mark Zuckerberg from the movie than actually from Facebook.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I would argue with that. A lot of people sort of say that that's the best movie that's been made in the last 20 years. That's what Quentin Tarantino says. Yeah. I mean, that movie is really fucking good. It's up there. Yeah, it's up there.

The first time I saw that movie, I was mind blown. I was like, I gotta make an app. I've gotta make an app. Yeah. I was like, I convinced myself that I was gonna get into programming after that. I took a class in school. You would have been a good programmer.

I would have sucked. Why? I would have been fine. I feel like I'm pretty good at problem solving, but I don't know if I had to. I think you have that sort of analytical brain. You liked Minecraft. Yeah, but that's different.

There's a big correlation between children who do Minecraft and end up in computer science. Probably during the Java days more than now. Java days. With Java, there's two types of Minecraft now. There's Java, which I believe is, or maybe, I don't even know if Java still does Minecraft. Is it either that or like bricks, something fucking?

I think you would have been good at programming. I think you have the temperament for it. You definitely have the neck for it. You dress the way that they do. You blink at the frequency that they blink at. There's Bedrock and Java. Java Edition is known for its modding capabilities. That's where the coding comes into play. We tried when we were getting into Minecraft earlier in the year, we were playing, we were trying to build a server and it was like you had to like code your own server

if you didn't want to pay. And I was like, I don't have this in me. I tried to do it and I was like, this is way too advanced. That would have been cool. It would have been cool if your background into comedy was coding. Yeah, it's a good plan B, that's for sure. It's probably the best plan B you could have.

That's what they used to say to truckers. They were like, learn to code. Yeah, yeah. And truckers took that as a slur. Learn to code or hit the road. Have you guys ever tried to learn how to code? God, no. Really?

Never even for like an hour. My brain was so shifted towards reading and history and stuff away from math and stuff. Yeah. Away from math and symbols. Yeah. I heard that 60% of Harvard graduates are in consulting or finance. That seems high to me, but. Maybe it's 40%.

That wouldn't surprise me, I guess. That's so nuts. Finance is like, but it's like, you could break down like 70% of jobs and to be like, oh yeah, you do finance. Like everyone I know does finance, but they all do different things. True. The most coding I ever did was like changing my MySpace background. Yeah, yeah. I've done, I did a, I did a program online that was, I believe, C++, and then I did one in school,

but I think I looked up the answers for most of those. What do you mean looked up the answers? I think I found some scripts online. Yeah, that's what's tough is that you can just... But I mean, if you think about that, it's just me and the smartest coder I could be. Why I going to waste my time on a code that's already been written for me? Yeah. But being able to write your own code from scratch is so fucking, it's so foreign to me, dude, it's like your own language. It's not even like a thing that is there,

is there just normal people who do have another job who just know, Oh yeah, but I know code at the end of the day. I think some people do. But it's got to be such a small group of people. Like, do we know anyone who just like goes home and just, they can just rip code all night? I know code. Tyler, can you? Oh, I thought you were being late.

Do you know anyone here at the office? Trey? I'm sure there are a couple people here that can code. I wish I knew how to code. Quigs are all busy. That's how you build a sick ass website, knowing how to code, if you actually know how to do it. That's how you get all the options.

I mean, I think at this point, you get those template websites like Squarespace and stuff, they do a pretty nice job. And then, AI is gonna just be able to code better than I think most people at some point soon. Yeah, AI makes a lot of mistakes. No.

Yeah. Give it some time. You ever have to fact check chat GBT? Oh, every time I do. And go, that's actually not true. Frankie found, Frankie caught it. I've caught it dozens of times. I always catch it, I'm like, are you sure about that? Yeah. And then they go, actually, you're right. They're like, they correct themselves. And you're like, aren't you supposed to be right the first time? Isn't that the whole point of this? It's amazing what you could learn from chat.

It's hilarious that I'm just bickering with Chad GBT. But no, I had to use Chad GBT a ton when I was trying to figure out the passport thing. Yeah. It's the easiest way. And multiple times I would send them something and they'd be like, yeah, this. And I'd be like, that's not that. And they'd be like, oh yeah, you're right, it's this. Well, you're teaching it then, right?

Yeah, but how do they not, how does it not know? Because it's new. It's a new student. I'm more of a Microsoft. I'm a GROCK guy. I'm a Microsoft copilot. Really? Exclusively.

That's nice. How's that? You see that they're adding Apple, Apple intelligence? Siri, I think it's just going to turn into Chachi BT. It's probably trash. Yeah, it'll probably be great. No Microsoft copilots where it's at. I got my micro, it's got a nice little British voice Of course it does. It makes me it makes it feel so much smarter. I

Just know Microsoft co-pilots not even top three a eyes. Don't you? Slap this shit. I just know it There's no way you could tell me you think that Microsoft co-pilot is going to be better than Apple Intelligence. It is. No. I know for a fact it is. Isn't there a new Microsoft documentary coming out about, or like, with like Steve Ballmer, Bill Gates and their current CEO or something like that?

Is Billy not the CEO? Mm-mm. What is he doing now? I think he's just covering up his tracks from Epstein Island. Philanthropy. He's just ripping code. It's so funny how when you talk about Microsoft,

everybody says Bill Gates, Bill Gates. But quietly there's just a couple other guys that are like 25 billionaires. Like Steve Ballmer bought the Clippers. I'd never heard of him before. And I'm like, who's that guy dancing around on stage? Oh, he's one of the founders of Microsoft. It's insane.

He's the 20th founder. Well, cause there's what? How many billionaires are there? It's like 2000? A lot. Something like that. It's not that cool anymore. Dude, I was watching a video the other day.

You see those Instagram videos where they're like, like Tommy smokes did one where it's like, oh, we're gonna like they pretend to meet up and like we're gonna go on a jog. How many miles are we jogging today? You ever see those? Yes, yes. And it was one it was a and it was a girl. And she meets up with this like older dude probably like 40s 50s. And he's like, Oh my god, he's like, Hey, how's it going? And he's like, I'm thinking we run three miles

today, I gotta get back to the office and she's like, Oh, totally fine. And then they start jogging. She's like, she's like, so tell everyone like, what do you do for work? And he's like, I am the COO of Blackstone. I was like, boy, and I looked him up. It's worth $10 billion. $1 I don't know what this is. I don't know anything. It's like the equivalent to like the like the I see your part. How much you anything about this. It's like the equivalent to like the man on the street videos. Can I see your report?

How much do you pay in rent? Yes. It's exactly the equivalent to that. But their medium is going for a jog. They go for a jog instead. They've done it with Jack Mack and Tommy Smoke. Yes, exactly. Both of them went on a jog?

I don't know if they actually jogged. That's the banner headline. Yes, they both went on jogs. I don't think either of those guys knew how to jog. I think you get to pick how long you want to go. And how fast you go. And you probably also don't think either of those guys knew how to jog. I think you get to pick how long you want to go. And how fast you go. And you probably also don't run at all. Realistically.

You think they run while you answer the question? There's no way that they're just like, all right, let's bang out these next three, we're done filming. We just finished filming, let's run now. Yeah, you said you were gonna do three. And then the COO of Blackstone is like, yeah, I'm down. They probably had like a Black Hawk helicopter

following them at like a foot distance, like making sure that nobody crosses him. His life is probably so valuable. Think about the amount of life insurance that a 10 billionaire has. A lot. But it's like, dude, so that guy just goes out. I mean, he probably did something fucked up and then his his the CEO was probably like you gotta go do a tiktok video or something

get back in the mix or all these guys are like think it's like a viable to be like a Internet superstar like they they get so much wealth and then they are still not fulfilled the same thing you were talking about like we want to kill more buffaloes. And they're like, oh, actually what I want is to be like a popular person on the internet. Yeah, I just don't get like if you were worth... What have I not conquered? Ah, influencer. Yeah. If you get ready with me as I go, you walk onto my yacht.

I guess I could see it being fun if it's something you don't do But it's like if you were ten billion dollars We were like why are you doing that if 60 minutes hit me up and they were like hey want to come do it I'd be like no, I'm gonna go home to my fucking mansion and not speak to anyone Yeah, but you play video games on my PC PC Yeah, of course I have one. You'd have a PC at that time. Yeah, I got multiple stacked on top of each other.

Yeah, you'd be bowling. One super PC. They'd be like supermarket aisles just lined up next to each other. I just, for the life of me, I don't even understand why you would want to go on a jog if you were worth 10 billion. If I was worth $10 billion, I'm not jogging ever. I'm getting fucking blood transplant.

Like, I'm just getting everything fixed constantly. Sometimes jogging is part of the healthy process. I think if you're $10 billion, they can come up with something else. Yeah. You just ran. I think that's why Mark Zuckerberg rolls Jiu-Jitsu. I know. You're probably right. I ran past the jujitsu studio this morning and there was a Orthodox Jewish dude with shaved head and ringlets

Yeah and just imagine like getting this shit beat out of you like in a Some kind of rear naked choke hold and someone's ringlets just like knocking against the side of your head like a ball sack Just it must be the most Emasculating way to go down big time. Just getting tickled by a ringlet as you get choked out to death There's no way to come out of that not anti-semitic Really, you know, you're in a losing battle you either win and you are anti-Semitic or you lose and you're now anti-Semitic as a result of losing.

Right. You can't fight. You're just at the lay down, you're going in front of them. You can't fight. The Orthodox Jewish guy at the Renzo Gracie Gym. Is that what it is? There's multiple Gracie Gyms. All different.

Every Gracie, there's a billion Gracie brothers. They all have fucking- The Gracie Gyms are in New York City Yeah, they have a few really there's one in Brooklyn where I ran past there's one right by our office I might have to get in the mix Star roll a little bit you're rolling suck I wouldn't hate rolling it must be amazing to like roll with Zuck and then like choke him out in the morning Like just being like a like a painter. It's big time. A guy who like does like

HVAC work and then just chokes out Zuckerberg in the morning. You think they make you let him win? No, because he definitely doesn't go to a public gym. You don't think so? He probably thinks he does and it's probably not. It's probably like he probably builds a planet of fitness. He builds a planet of fitness. Yeah, yeah. He does it. It's just all. Wow, another win, Mr. Zuckerberg. Arigato gozaimasu, Sensei.

Yeah, he thinks he speaks fluent Chinese, or fluent Japanese, he doesn't speak a lick of it, doesn't speak a word of it. He's just saying gibberish, and they're like, just nodding back, laughing at his jokes. Ah ha ha ha ha ha jokes. That would be awesome. That's what it's probably like though. I mean, dude, what is that comparison?

I saw a comparison the other day of someone talking about if you have a million dollars, I think it's 11 months in seconds. I think a million is 11 months in seconds and a billion is 30 years in seconds. What are you talking about? I know what you're talking about. I don't know if you're exactly saying it right,

but I don't know how to say it either. Comparing money to scale of time? Yeah. And I think that's what it was. I think it's like a million is close to a year, and a billion is 30 years. So it's every dollars a second you're saying? Yeah.

Yeah. That is a lot. And then he was also like. And then imagine like Elon Musk has like 300 billion. Right. But the ups and downs of Tesla. True. Are so extreme that at any moment he loses.

Multi. $10 billion a day. Are you worried about getting Tesla hate-crimed? We've talked about it before. Have your worries increased at all? No. None? Have they gone down at all?

I don't drive my Tesla as a message to the people I drive by that I care about government efficiency. Yeah, but they don't know that. The way that I, yeah, that's true. Well, they should see that my car is beat to shit and think, oh, well, clearly he bought that before. Or they're thinking, looks like a couple people

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You ever see those Rivians? I like the Rivians. I've driven in one. The issue I have with the Rivian is that the automatic braking is very extreme. Is this another electric car? Mm-hmm. They make the pickup truck that everyone wanted. It's like a sexy little pickup truck

that has a tube through the middle for your snowboard. There's like a specific snowboard compartment. I don't hate it. The pickup truck's cool, but honestly, I've driven in the Ford F-150 Lightning. That thing is fucking awesome. That's electric too, I'm assuming. All-electric, powerful.

Damn. Beastly. The Rivian's, you'm assuming. All electric, powerful. Damn. Beastly. The Rivian's, you know, sort of sweet and cute and modern. So it's a good starter car. But the F-150 electric is, feels and looks like a big old Ford F-150. Yeah, it's like a shock of a lightning.

A year or two ago, maybe a year and a half ago, I put myself on the wait list for the Range Rover electric. What were you going to do if you got selected for that? I don't know, man. I just figured I have no idea when this is actually going to come out and hopefully I'll have enough money at that time.

Is that like early decision to a college? Like you're locked in? No, I think I could pass. But I also had the thought that if I got on that wait list early enough that when it came out and I finally got one, maybe the demand would be so high that I could then flip it. Yeah, yeah. Pretty quickly. You probably can.

Speaking of, here's a... Watching you flip a Range Rover and failing at it would be the funniest shit. I can't sell this Range Rover. I have to... I'm charged... They charge me so much in the garage because it's worth so much. It has an armed guard next to it.

He's keeping like a $300,000 car in the fucking parking garage in Dumbo. Fundamentally, I do not have the money right now to buy the car should I be allocated one. However, I will say that here's a strategy that I've been told and I've flirted with a couple times New York Knicks first round of the playoffs, right? You can buy tickets should they make the NBA finals Yeah As they progress through the playoffs the hype around their run grows and grows and grows of course So even if you buy those tickets in the first round on game time

Even if you buy those tickets in the first round on game time, by the time they make the NBA Finals and they've come seven games through the Pacers and now they're facing a team in the Finals, that holy shit, Nick's first time. Those tickets will be worth a lot more. And you can then flip them again on game time. I think that's a pretty good strategy. Flipping tickets?

Yeah. Yeah. It definitely is. And it's good for game time too. I think the only downside to any of those types of things is the risk that someone's going to say, we don't want your tickets. Then worse comes to worse. You go to a Knicks game. True. There you go.

That's a win. Probably not going to feel as good though when you're like, this was not the plan. You're as good though when you're like, this was not the plan You're sitting courtside and you're like I was not supposed to be here. Yeah. You're valing your electric Range Rover I can't believe I have the car and the tickets. Oh my god. I really doubled down on the flipping game But you know what? I guess you really need to do this houses But you know what, you know what you really need to do this? Houses, houses, everybody flips houses. Yeah, that is true.

I'm gonna buy one in a gentrifying neighborhood right on the way up. Have you ever flipped anything? Like with your sole purpose while you were buying the product to be, I'm gonna flip this. Successfully? Yeah. I have once.

I have, I flipped some sneakers. Actually I have twice. That was similar. I flipped a- I've flipped some sneakers. Actually I have twice. That was similar. I flipped a pair of sunglasses and a jacket. I flipped some sneakers. Was it reversible? What the fuck? It's now from FTP. What's that? It's a clothing brand. What does it stand for?

It stands for Fuck the Population. Actually? Yeah. It was like a- they were big in like probably like 2016. And were they tough to come by? Yeah. I bought a pair of the you know, like those Kurt Cobain sunglasses The big white ones with the old lenses with like slotted like Stripes across the middle. No You know what I'm talking about. The Kerco Bane sunglasses.

The FTP put out a pair of them. And I think I bought them for like 300 and sold them for like 600. How'd you get them? I literally just got a notification on my, like they popped up, I was like on Instagram or something. And they dropped right when I opened up the app. Yeah.

I was like, oh shit. How'd you have enough money in 2016 to do that? I had jobs. I Want I had $300 I won the all my money probably on the sneakers app I was allocated a pair of the OVO 12s the white Drake 12s Jordan 12s So I bought them for retail and then I sold them for how much zone for probably like 900 bucks at the time And I bought them for like 160. That's pretty good. Yeah.

The jacket I think I damn near hit a lick on. What was it? That was also an FTP. It was an FTP jacket because then I was like, I got the hunger, you know? I'm a flipper now. I'm Gary at the arts school. And that one, there was one that I didn't sell

that wouldn't sell. That. I think I made a lot of money on it because it was like a nice windbreaker. It was actually a sick jacket. I think I might have worn it around the house a couple of times. I sold it. I sold that one for a lot. And then I got a crew neck sweatshirt that never sold and I still have it, but I very rarely wear it. I'll buy it off of it. It's like a small. I'll buy it. How much?

How much? 100 bones. What'd you pay for it? I have no idea. The trick to flipping is that you have to do it with stuff that you don't actually like yourself. Yeah. Because every time I've tried to flip something

that I actually liked, I end up just using the profits to buy more of the thing. Yeah. And then I have this Sophie's choice of deciding whether I want to keep it or flip it. I was in the flipping game of cocaine for a little bit. Oh, really? Yeah, I was trying to flip it, and I would buy it and then sell some, but I would only just finance my own family. Ten crack commandments right there.

Yeah, one. Never get high off your own supply. Is that one? No, that's not the one. Uno. What does he say? Don't fuck with the coochie stank. I'm pretty sure is what he said.

Two dicks and chicks don't mix or something like that. You ever watch those flipping videos of shoes online? That's one of the TikTok types of videos that all has come. Oh, I love those videos. I do too. They're banging the soles. And it's like, it should sound like a watermelon. See that?

See how that's hollow? And you're like, no, it just sounds like you're slapping a shoe to be honest. Yeah. Sorry, we don't want them It's like an eight-year-old shows up with like clearly like a worn pair of Jordans that he got it like Walmart for like 20 bucks Yeah, and either like you got the box No, they didn't come with a box

And then like the dad standing in the background and it's just some fucking 19 year old kid just slapping the soul as he's watching his child. Best I could do is like 140. And the kid's like flip a coin. Yeah. Those are great. I like those. I like watching the card videos too. It really is. A lot of those industries are really just fucking younger children out of money. Dude when I I was 23, I think, I had a major elbow surgery. Oh wow. I had to have a debridement of my elbow. They scraped out all this flaking cartilage. Was it from sports?

Jesus Christ. Yeah. And just had to get all the fucked up cartilage removed and then they do a microfracture, so they drill all these tiny little holes into the elbow bone, and then that creates scar tissue, which acts as a viable substitute for cartilage.

It's actually really well done surgery. That's pretty insane. Shout out Dr. Charles Olczek at the hospital for special surgery. How do you remember that? You don't forget old Czech. That was your, you were 19? No, no, I was like 23.

Oh, wow. How do you, do you remember the age that he said 10 seconds beforehand? Hey, maybe lay off the old, uh. You're never gonna remember old Czech. The cushy kush over there. So I had that surgery and I remember in the days following the surgery they'd given me some painkillers, Percocets or you know whatever. My Percocet. I don't know what it was.

30s, 15s. I think it was still at a time when you know before dope sick. Yeah. So maybe it was even OxyContin. I think it might've been OxyContin. And I had taken a couple, whatever, just the normal prescribed amount, and I was walking the streets of New York during the day with my arm in a sling, and I walked into one of those versions of a flight club. And I saw that they had a pair

of the paranormal foam posits. You ever seen those? No. You ever seen those? They were based on, they were a limited release based on that show Paranorman, I think. Or that video, that movie. I'm not familiar.

I just know foam posits. I know the foam posits, yeah. These were a really limited release and they cost $3,000. And they had them in my size, and I was a little loopy from my OxyContin thing. And I said, I'll take those. And I bought them.

And then a week later, I realized what I had done. You came out of an Oy-cotton haze. And I was... The constipation finally cleared. Fortunately... I got a shit out. Yeah. I had not warned them.

And I had, the way that I opened the box without opening it was I took a hairdryer and I loosened the glue by melting it on one side so that I could open it without pulling the thing. And I could look at the shoes and I would take them out and look at them, touch them and stuff. And then as the finally, as the painkillers,

as I stopped taking them, I was like, I can't own these. These are too expensive. I can't afford this. These are like a piece of art. So I listed them on eBay. And you're 23. And I took pictures of them like near my window so they were well lit.

But I didn't have much of an eBay profile, I'd never sold anything on there. So a lot of people were messaging me being like, these don't look real, where's your fucking credibility? And I ended up managing to sell them on to some guy in China for 2,600. Okay. And-

You took a $400 loss for nothing? All, you know. I would assume that was after desperation. Or was that your first offer? No, I had a lot of offers, but that was the best one. But imagine the shipping to China for those. I went to Kinko's, yeah, and paid for all that and shipped them.

How much is that shipping? I don't know exactly. But I think maybe the buyer paid for the shipping. Either way, I was like, I just need to get out of this and do damage control. Yeah. So I got out of it and lost $400. It's not terrible.

No, it could have been worse. There is some good weight off your shoulders when you sell something for that. I also applied this exact same level of thinking to when I was buying crypto. Every time I ever bought crypto, I would buy it, it would go up for a second, and then it would start sinking and I'd freak out.

And I would sell it at a loss, but be like, what a relief, I didn't want to go all the way down. Yeah, it's like cashing out of a bed early. I'm so bad at holding investments, Yeah. which is why I don't really do any of my own money stuff. Yeah, investing's tough. I kind of was the same way

and then I just stopped looking at it because I would do this, I would wake up every morning and I would be like, down 200 bucks today. You'd have to work a little harder. That's what you gotta do, man. Dude, I had a funny thing happen where this past weekend I was playing that golf course. And a guy who was friends with the guy

that I'd been set up to play with, DM'd me and was like, hey, I saw that you're playing golf with this guy. Why don't you and I create a match? I'll give that guy, I checked your both your handicaps. I will give you five strokes. He should get five strokes based on your handicap differential,

but we're also factoring a little bit of that. It's his home course. How does that sound? Is that sound fair? 200 bucks, what do you think? I read the message briefly. Yeah. I thought this guy was gonna be playing golf.

Have I told this story? No. Okay. I thought this guy was gonna be playing golf with us. Yeah. So I liked playing golf for money. Yeah. And I agreed.

I was like, oh yeah, 200 bucks for a match. Sounds great. Like that'll be fun. I didn't read the whole message. I just thought we would be playing a $ sounds great. Like that'll be fun. I didn't read the whole message. I just thought we would be playing a $200 match. Which is totally fine with me. And we were incorporating handicaps and stuff. After the day ended, he messages me again and he was like,

sounds like you whooped him pretty good. And he Venmo'd me $200. Oh. So he was just getting action on your guys' games? Correct. That's insane. I know. And I ended up, because it was a thing where like,

if he had Venmo requested me, I would be like, dude, what is this for? Yeah. So he was never even there? No. That's crazy. Yeah. Setting up a...

That's insane. I know. So do you think he's actually friends with that guy, or do you think he just does that every day? Yes, I do. I do, because in order for him to have found out who won that match, he would have had to message that guy who told him, yeah, Francis actually beat us by more than five

strokes. He would have come to the golf club and laid down three guns on the fucking clubhouse So he was never even that's like I Really don't there's so much ethics involved with like Like paying up on shit like that like a dice game or like someone will bet something and people hold up money And you have to like grab all of it and like pay out everything Yeah, like if you're just side betting on something you just have to

expect that people are going to pay. I'm sure that stuff doesn't get paid in the NBA all the time on these like flights and card games. Oh I'm sure yeah. Yeah. Well I'll tell you yeah. Until you get into trouble. And that's how you get into trouble. All right. Should we wrap it up? Let's do it. What are we at time wise?

Probably like 55. Well, I'm in Chicago this, maybe this weekend. If I'm not, it's past it, but I'll be at Zany's Rosemont all weekend. The downtown shows are sold out. Come check it out at punchup.live slash Francis Ellis. Sweet. I am in Tennessee coming up, Knoxville.

Nice, that'll be fun. Yeah, that'll be really nice. Hairball and I will be in the Ryder Cup, which you guys should check out. Give that a whirl. Is that live? I can't remember. I don't think so.

And Sass, you're doing Summer House, right? And then I'm doing Summer House, yep. Which I'll be out for that. They're gonna tear you up. Yo, yeah, big time. That should be an absolute fuckfest. Rip you to pieces. Dick's gonna collect mold.

I got dates coming up in the fall. Chicago, Nashville, stuff like that. I'll update my website, get it up there, but I don't even know if I have the ticket links for that yet, but more on that to come. All right, we'll see you guys. Are you still pissed about not being invited

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