Song Exploder - Baths - Miasma Sky

Episode Date: February 14, 2014

Will Wiesenfeld of Baths breaks down his song Miasma Sky, which came out last year on his highly-praised sophomore album Obsidian. Will talks about using the computer to intentionally destroy... sounds, trying to find a balance in his music between simplicity and complexity, and what went into making his drum tracks. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Song Exploder, where musicians take apart their songs, and piece by piece, tell the story of how they were made. I'm Rishi Kesh Hirway. This episode contains explicit language. In this episode, Will Wiesenfeld, who records under the name Baths, breaks down his song Myasma Sky. It came out last year on his highly praised sophomore album, Obsidian. Coming up, Will talks about using the computer to intentionally destroy sounds, trying to find a balance in his music between simplicity and complexity, and how he felt getting his first. drum kit. Just like, like the most fun thing ever.
Starting point is 00:00:44 This is Myasma Sky on Song Exploder. Hi, I'm Will Wiesenfeld. I'm Baths. With this song with Myasma Sky, I went into it knowing I wanted to make like a sort of a simple dance track. And in order to do that, I wanted to make a synth sound that was really, really thick and took up the space of the entire
Starting point is 00:01:10 track almost and that the song was sort of built around that sound. I don't have a lot of synths. And there's something in my head that was like the idea of making the most of what I have. And so all of the synth sounds on this entire record are from a small cassio that I borrowed from my friend Luke and the OG microcorg. And that's it. Those are the only two synths I have. And then it's like a bunch of layers of effects and manipulation and like stitching clips together and all that sort of stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:49 So I'm getting stuff that's like further than what either of those can achieve by themselves. but it's still the root of it is just those sounds. And it was like a very delicate thing and took a while to get it the right kind of distortion where it doesn't sound like distortion. It just sounds thick, and that was the whole thing with it. So this sound is the sound of the microcorg
Starting point is 00:02:09 before any of the effects were laid on. And then this sound is of the meaty synth. I knew that the timing was going to be what it was where it's kind of syncopated, you know, so it's like three over four. Early on in the process of this record, I got a drum set for myself, which was like, the most fun thing ever.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Because I wanted to get a drum set that basically was kind of the closest I could get to an electronic drum set that was a live drum set. So, like, very muted and small sounding and claustrophobic and all of that. You can basically turn any drum set into that. It's just a matter of muting the crap out of it and, like, putting stuff all over it.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I live sampled that drum set, like, crazy. Partially because I'm not great at drums, partially because I just wanted those sounds completely isolated. Because almost every drum sound that I have in my songs is at least like four or five layers deep of different sounds. So like I turned the sound of a cassette player closing and opening into part of the snare rhythms in the song. I put lima beans in a pill bottle, and I use that as a shaker,
Starting point is 00:03:29 just to make like a fuzzier feel for the track so that it feels like dancy or something like that. I was just like nervous, but it ended up working really well. I recorded the rain where the latter half of the record was finished, and it was raining out there, and I just posted my little portable recorder. Like I recorded most of the record in places that aren't my house, which is what's so different about the process of this record and what was so challenging about it, because I'm not used to that.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I'm used to my bedroom. For this song, for my life in recording, this is kind of how it goes, where it's like I'm in a room with a bunch of instruments and making this record. I was in my friend Mario's bedroom, and he has a bunch of instruments laying around, and there was a banjo, and I was like, I want a sound that's slightly different than a guitar for this song, so let me try that.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And I'm sure that I'm playing it, like, not correct banjo style, you know, whatever. The way I got a lot of vocals written and a lot of parts written was like listening to the songs in my car and singing in my car by myself and sometimes having to pull over and just sing in my car when an idea fit really well. I would just pull my phone out and press record. So I would just have all the melodies in my phone,
Starting point is 00:05:03 and then I wouldn't have to stress over, like, remembering them right at that moment. It was just like, oh, this feels really good. Let me put it into my phone. I had, like, eight or so different types of melodies that I had tried, and a lot of them just didn't work, and I would have the one or two that fit really well, and then I would use that and then come back in and record it that way. I remember, like, trying a lot of different things for this part
Starting point is 00:05:26 and hating a lot of it. and then I came to this one, and I was very comfortable. Okay, so in the middle section of the song and the bridge where the key change happens and all that, there's this sound. It's one of those things that's kind of the thrill of recording on the computer where I can't tell you what that sound is, and that's the magic of it. I just turn it up a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, so that it's digitally peaking, and then you boost it maybe like 30 or 40 decibels beyond that.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I don't technically know what I'm doing, but it sounds really, really good and it sounds really digital and really gross. And then it comes out to this really cool little clip sound. There's something to be said for like really good dance producers how they can ride out an atmosphere like that and keep it going for a really long time. And I think I'm just a fidgety piece of shit and I like I need things to like get moved around a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And it's also I like details. And I like details in the rhythm like that that just like for a moment pull it out and make it a little bit different. You can hear kind of with the bass part how it goes like, So it's a little bit out of place. You're hearing it and then it makes sense. And then that little jolt every now and then, like every four bars or so,
Starting point is 00:06:43 kind of throws you off a little bit, which is kind of fun. And the really abrupt key change was kind of like that same idea of like I'm fidgety. I actually struggle with that a lot is that I think my rhythms by themselves are sometimes too simple. I fight with myself about that all the time that I just wish I could make it weirder
Starting point is 00:07:06 and still have the song makes sense to me. It's an endless battle. And now here's Myasmas Sky by Baths. Visit songexplor.net for more info on baths. I have a new album of my own coming out on April 24th. It's been about 15 years since I last put out of full ink. And this is the first one that'll be out under my own name, Rishi Kesh Her Way. I started making Song Exploder when I was feeling lost in my own music career.
Starting point is 00:12:07 And then for over a decade, I've gotten to have these incredible conversations about the process of making music, talking to other artists. and it made me completely rethink my relationship to music and my way of writing songs. And this album is the product of all of that. It features contributions from some of my favorite artists, including some folks that you may have heard on this podcast, like Iron and Wine, Kevin Morby, Vagabon, Fenlily, and the producer Phil Wine Rope. I'm going to be on tour playing in cities across the U.S. starting in April, and I'm trying to bring the spirit of the podcast with me. So every show that I'm playing will begin with a conversation about the album,
Starting point is 00:12:44 with a different amazing guest moderator in each city, like Adam Scott, Samin Nasrat, Jason Manzuchas, Josh Molina, Minjin Lee, Ken Jennings, John Roderick, Austin Cleon, and more. They're all going to be my conversation partners on stage, and then I'll play with my band. The album is called In the Last Hour of Light, and the first couple songs are out now. You can listen to the music and get tickets for the shows on my website,
Starting point is 00:13:10 Rishikash.co, or just go to SongExploder.net, slash live. That's songexploader.net slash live. Thanks. You can find all of the past episodes of the podcast and subscribe to future episodes at iTunes.com slash songexploder. You can also find Song Exploder on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. I send out mixtapes on Fridays on my newsletter. You can find links to all of these at songexploder.net. Song Exploder is a proud member of Radiotopia from PRX. My name is Rishi Kesh Hereway. Thanks for listening. Autopia.

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