Song Exploder - Shania Twain - You're Still The One

Episode Date: April 3, 2024

Shania Twain is a singer and songwriter from Ontario, Canada. She’s the only female artist to have had three consecutive Diamond albums — albums that have sold over ten million copies. Ac...tually, her 1997 album Come On Over is the best-selling album by a female solo artist of all time. One of the most iconic songs from that iconic album is "You’re Still The One." It was co-written and produced by Mutt Lange, who had previously produced some other classic albums, like Back in Black by AC/DC and Pyromania by Def Leppard. He had also produced Shania Twain’s previous album, The Woman in Me.  For this episode, Shania told me the story of writing “You’re Still The One.” She told me about what the song meant to her when she was making it, over 25 years ago, and what it means to her now.For more, visit songexploder.net/shania-twain.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Song Exploder, where musicians take apart their songs, and piece by piece, tell the story of how they were made. I'm Rishi Kesh Hirwe. Shania Twain is a singer and songwriter from Ontario, Canada. She's the only female artist to have had three consecutive diamond albums, albums that have sold over 10 million copies. Actually, her 1997 album, Come On Over, is the best-selling album by a female solo artist of all time. One of the most iconic songs from that iconic album is You're Still the One. It was co-written and produced by Mutt Lang, who had previously produced some other classic albums,
Starting point is 00:00:39 like Back in Black by ACDC and Pyromania by Def Leopard. He'd also produced Shania Twain's previous album, The Woman in Me, from 1995. For this episode, Shania told me the story of writing You're Still the One. She told me what the song meant to her when she was making it over 25 years ago, and what it means to her now. My name is Shania Twain. You're still the one was written when I was married to Mutt Lang. We had met and married within six months.
Starting point is 00:01:39 He was quite a few years older than me, and we were from very, very different worlds. Mut had a very British and South African accent, which was quite strong. I was born in Ontario, Canada. So the combination of us was a real contrast. but musically we were not from such different worlds. Mut being a very, very big country music fan, and rock was a staple in all of my upbringing in Canada, much of it being what Mut had written and produced.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I knew the Deaf Leopard albums, the foreigner albums, the Carr's albums, and of course, ACDC. So I felt like I had already known him for so long. inside out because Mutt Lang was those records on many levels. It was just so obvious that we needed to be together, which was difficult for other people to believe on the outside. There was a lot of skepticism about whether our relationship would last. In interviews, I would be asked questions like,
Starting point is 00:02:53 what is your role in this music relationship, questions that insinuated that I was a product being shaped and formed and developed. Questioning my ability because I was the newbie and Munt was already so accomplished. So you're still the one was definitely written with me feeling like I needed to say, we're going to make it, we're going to get through all the skepticism. In years from now, everybody will see that you're still going to be the one. for me. The day of writing, you're still the one, is so clear in my head. I start humming a melody around in the kitchen, which is very common for me. The lyric looks like we made it, comes out.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Looks like we made it. I thought, I'm onto something here, but we're not that far into our marriage. I could be getting ahead of myself. I know we still have a long way to go together. So I'm just going to put it out there and I'm going to say it in this song. I picked up my guitar and the melody came really fast. Looks like we made it. Look how far we've come up, baby. We might have took the long way. We knew we'd get there someday. And then the horse lyrics came together. That was the next thing I did. You're still the one I run to. You're still the one I...
Starting point is 00:04:50 And Mutt came in. He just sat across from me. I played him what I was doing. And he said, okay, well, let's just roll the course over a few times. So I played and sang and played and sang, and played and sang, and, you know, he would just say, do it again and do it again and do it again. And I could see his mind coming up with something.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And then he just started singing. And that was the hook to me. I'm just like, that's the hook. That is the hook. You're still a woman I couldn't. The way Mutt and I heard the music together, it wasn't going to sound like any other country record on purpose. Our first album together,
Starting point is 00:05:47 the woman and me just rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. I got a lot of criticism, questioning my authenticity as a country artist. And I was foreign. I wasn't even American. Never mind, I wasn't Southern. So I was offensive to some of them, and they made it pretty clear.
Starting point is 00:06:08 But I knew I belonged to there because those were my roots. I mean, I'd been singing in bars from the age of eight years old, writing my own music from the age of 10. And my repertoire as a little girl was Dolly Parton, tell me why not. It was George Jones, and that is in me. But I wanted to be my own artist. And the music was going to be a hybrid of all of my various influences stylistically, R&B, rock, folk, and of course, country. And so the song was recorded in Nashville because there's a different feel to the country music player. So, for example, it affects the groove entirely.
Starting point is 00:06:56 If you bring a country drummer into a session, he's going to give a song a very different feel that if you bring in a rock drummer, or if you bring in an R&B drummer. And the session for your still one was particularly for me about the drums. So see that patter? It's brushes on the snare. It's like you exhale.
Starting point is 00:07:22 and you're in a slow dance. It's a sway. It's a very romantic, soulful groove. We needed to get the tempo right. So I remember working a long time on that. I was there singing along so we could set that tempo for the drummer, Pauline. They said, I bet they'll never make it,
Starting point is 00:07:51 but just look at us home. It's still together, still going strong. It wasn't a challenge for me, vocally. It was very, very natural. I tend to sing lazy that way, and so the delivery of the song stayed very true and pure to the way I wrote it, right down to the backing vocals.
Starting point is 00:08:19 You're still the one I run to, the one that I've been. long to you're still the one I want for life mutted backing vocals and he gives a style to things
Starting point is 00:08:38 as like a signature sound to his vocals for sure you know that's Mut-Lang backing vocals And it was a great contrast to my very solitary
Starting point is 00:08:54 storytelling You're still the one You're still the one that I dream of. You're still the one I kiss. I wanted to add the sensuality to the intro of the song. You know, he wanted to milk the romance. And I never enjoyed that part. I'm like, oh, this is so corny.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Do you mind if we listen to it? It makes me laugh even thinking about listening to it. When I first saw you, I saw love. I'm in there and I'm just given a bunch of different takes. And the first time you touched me. I would have liked to listen to the outtakes because I'm sure I was laughing between some of them thinking, oh my God, I'm really, you know, pouring it on here. And after all this time, you're still the one I love.
Starting point is 00:09:55 John Hobbs is on the organ. The steel guitar, I would say most particularly, was in the control room a very wow moment. It was a very, that's magic. Bruce Bouten was the steel guitar player on your steel the one, and he was just the perfect stylist on that instrument for this song. This is an instrument that works in waves. It's waves and attack. Waves and attack.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Mutt is also riding that performance in the mix to exaggerate the swells Because he wants the instrument to disappear and then come back and then disappear and come back. It's a haunting instrument. It makes you reflect from a distance. It ends very alone. It's just my voice. So there's no more beat at that point, which I think is very appropriate. It's just the way I sing it.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I'm so glad we made it. Look how far we've come, my baby. You're still the one has gone through its own evolution and meaning and purpose. When I wrote the song, I wrote it from my perspective, about my relationship and about feeling so good and satisfied that we made it. When we got divorced, I knew I couldn't go on stage without doing this song because it, I'd become one of my biggest songs. And it was very hard.
Starting point is 00:12:18 And I was choking down the tears. It made me very sad to sing it. But forcing myself through that wall, through that, oh, I can't believe I have to sing this song again because it's not true anymore. And, you know, I was kind of in this emotional space with it. Because I'm looking at the people and they're going, well, she's singing about something that's no longer true.
Starting point is 00:12:41 I didn't know if that would make everybody sad. How would they would feel about that? but I soon realized that it wasn't about me. People had adopted this song as their song. They weren't thinking, Shania doesn't mean the song anymore. They were thinking, this is my song. This is our song.
Starting point is 00:13:03 This is my wedding song. This is our anniversary song. And then I started celebrating that myself. I'm like, wow, this song has way surpassed why I, wrote it. It's so much more than that. It's not about me. And I let go of that. I let go of my own attachment to the reason I wrote it. And of course, in all the years that we were together, I meant every, I meant it. I was singing it for myself more than anything. And then all of a sudden I was singing it for everybody else. Coming up, you'll hear how all these ideas and elements
Starting point is 00:13:46 came together in the final song. I have a new album of my own coming out on April 24. It's been about 15 years since I last put out a full length, and this is the first one that'll be out under my own name, Rishikesh Her Way. I started making Song Exploder when I was feeling lost in my own music career. And then for over a decade, I've gotten to have these incredible conversations about the process of making music, talking to other artists. And it made me completely rethink my relationship to music and my way of writing songs. And this album is the product of all of that. It features contributions from some of my favorite artists, including some folks that you may have heard on this podcast, like Iron and Wine, Kevin Morby, Vagabon, Fenlily, and the producer Phil Wine Robe. I'm going to be on tour playing in cities across the U.S. starting in April, and I'm trying to bring the spirit of the podcast with me.
Starting point is 00:14:37 So every show that I'm playing will begin with a conversation about the album with a different amazing guest moderator in each city, like Adam Scott, Samin Nasrat, Jason Manzukas, Josh Molina, Minjin Lee, Ken Jennings, John Roderick, Austin Cleon, and more. They're all going to be my conversation partners on stage, and then I'll play with my band. The album is called In the Last Hour of Light, and the first couple songs are out now.
Starting point is 00:15:03 You can listen to the music and get tickets for the shows on my website. Rishikash.co. Or just go to songexploder.net slash live. That's songexploader.net slash live. Thanks. And now, here's You're Still the One by Shania Twain in its entirety. When I first saw you, I saw love the first time you died. Look how far we've come up, baby. We might have took the long way. We'd get there someday. They said, I bet, they'll never make it.
Starting point is 00:16:25 But just look at us holding. We're still together, still going strong. You're still the one I'm glad we didn't listen. We would be missing I bet They'll never make it But just look at Us holding
Starting point is 00:19:18 Feel together And so far Learned This episode was produced by Craig Ely, Theo Balcom, Kathleen Smith, Mary Dolan, and myself. The episode artwork is by Carlos Lerma, and I made the show's theme music and logo. Song Exploder is a proud member of Radiotopia from PRX, a network of independent, listener-supported, artist-owned podcasts. You can learn more about all our shows at Radiotopia.fm. You can follow me on social media at Rishi Hereway, and you can follow
Starting point is 00:19:53 the show at Song Exploder. You can also get a SongExploder t-shirt at Songexploader.net slash shirt. I'm Rishi Kesh Hereway. Thanks for listening. Radio T-Topia.

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