Spiritually Speaking with Jessica & Samantha - Big Energy, Big Ideas, and a Slightly Hungover Co-Host

Episode Date: January 17, 2025

In this week’s episode, Jess dives into some deep brainstorming and works through ideas she’s been sitting with. The podcast becomes the perfect space for Jess to unravel her thoughts and explore creative solutions… if only her therapist-for-the-day, Sam, wasn’t a little worse for wear after a big night out!From inspired tangents to hilariously off-track moments, this episode balances soulful reflections with plenty of laughs as the duo navigates a mix of big questions and relatable chaos. Tune in for a behind-the-scenes glimpse of the brainstorming process and how even the most hungover of therapists can offer unexpected insights.

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Whatever it is, we want to solve it and we want to solve it together. We're so excited to start this new feature. So please head over to our Instagram. You will find the link in our bio for the anonymous questions. Please send them on there and don't be afraid. Just go for it. It's anonymous. Make the most of it. Get some free guidance. It's going to be good. We're excited and we'll see you soon bye hello and welcome to spiritually speaking with me sam and with me jace hey we are back together we're in real life yes it's so nice being back together and doing it like face to face as much as it's hard work jesus mary joseph setting up for this podcast episode

like you should feel very grateful that you are actually listening to this because it means that we persisted and made it happen and sam's hung over yes so her patience she was very good but we had to get a bit techie on basically it's boring yeah put two microphones on a laptop it's hard work it's much easier when we do it over zoom yeah um for jess not me because i am not the producer of this podcast i was honestly ready to just lie on this wall i know i could feel it yeah we've got this because the last time i gave up and i was like i can't do it again i was thinking is she not going to give up like normally at this point you would have given up you'd be like spirits don't want us to record today that was honestly

I thought that's the next thing she's gonna do we're here because we've come to a space to record it so it means that we're dedicated well we did last time as well but we just wanted to catch up yeah so welcome yes how are you why are you hung over so I had my staff party yesterday um so it's like our Christmas do but we always do it in January because obviously December's so crazy um however I always say that I'm going to do it in November next year so I think this year we will actually do it in November um but we went on a boat which was really fun we did a yacht party yesterday which was so good it was so much fun had an absolute ball but yeah I am actually really hungover and you know what I don't like saying I'm hungover because I feel like

defeated when I say that but I actually am like yeah you just sometimes it's too much isn't it yeah but like I love having a drink but I don't enjoy having multiple drinks I like a drink yeah so when I then have multiple and then I feel like this the next day i'm like oh god i just don't want to do this anymore and i'm sat here saying this looking at someone who's been sober for how long well i'd say about i had like one drink while i was home yeah so if we don't count that yeah like probably about three months now yes a long time feeling very smug yeah exactly and i feel it and i that's off to you do you know what's really funny is obviously being back here in Dubai like people obviously drink a lot more like socially and stuff and everyone's doing a bit of dry January and a few people were like oh like is it dry January and I

was oh I've actually just kind of stopped drinking and the amount of people that have said to me do you know what I keep thinking about this i don't even enjoy drinking and it was like a lot of people were talking about just the habit and the pressure of it but i just don't think it's a big deal like i haven't made it a big deal so i don't feel like anyone yeah it is becoming a lot more than normal yeah i feel like i'm seeing it more and more and i met up today with um a business coach poppy and she hasn't drank either i think it's like about 18 months she said she's not drank for i was like jesus but yeah i i do love a drink but i just don't enjoy multiple drinks well i'll make you feel better so when i was home the time i did drink i went to rocker with like my og friends from my first job who we always hang out together and um when I'm home

and we I love rocker I love it I've actually never been so it's so good and it was like the brunch where you can eat whatever you want and like we're all proper foodies so like oh it's so good so anyone in London like near London rocker do a really good brunch, Saturday, Sunday, go. And we were just going for it, loving it. And then I thought, do you know what, I fancy some bubbles. And what I was sort of saying to myself was I'm not sober and if I want a drink, I can. And I thought, do you know what, I really want one. Yeah.

So I did. So I'm having a good time and then like eating loads of food. And then we went to another bar and then the girls were like, should we have an espresso martini I was like yeah why not and my sister like the next day was like you weren't even drinking coffee to then have like alcohol and an espresso yeah so I also ate a lot of food then went home my dad picked me up and I was like I'll take me to bed then I need to get some oh my god it's hilarious right like honestly and then went to bed woke up about 5am had to sprint to the toilet yeah I'm not surprised and I was basically projectile sick

wow but what was funny was I was like completely naked because I always sleep naked mum and dad heard me run and I've had a few incidences recently with spirit in my sleep and just it's been a bit wild the last few months so dad thought I was being chased by a spirit through the house oh my god and my parents sleep naked no I can't I can't I'm basically being sick I wet myself oh my god luckily how my parents hallway is is like a corner so they were standing behind the corner and they both ran out and were like Jess oh my god and then I was like I've been sick I've been sick and I was like I didn't drink that much like they were like no like you're okay normally back in the day like there was no sympathy from

my parents with drinking like that yeah and um so yeah it was just really funny and then I basically laid on their bed with a towel around me for like half an hour because i felt so rough and i was like i just i just need to be with someone like this is absolutely by no means the worst hangover of my life like absolutely not but i just haven't had this feeling for a long time so the thing is though it just shows what it does like i i wouldn't say i was drunk i definitely did your body was like what the hell have you just done like you've just done all that time in Thailand of like not drinking like eating different types of food and then to come back and do that I find because it's like I don't know it just it's obviously food in Thailand

is really good but it's all just sort of coconut milk vegetables stir fry honestly I was like oh my goodness and then I had to go to my nan's house that day for like this Christmas thing and I was like I just feel so rough so yeah and then my tantra teacher I was like oh god this happened and he was like this is really good because what this this is what you would do you'd be like this is really good it's gonna teach you a lesson yeah yeah it just shows you you went and had that temptation which is really good and you experienced it and actually now you just know your body doesn't want it but i went to say to him like i was just a fat bitch we had two sets of starters like we went crazy and i actually think an element of it was overeating as well

yeah yeah yeah which made you feel so and the alcohol but yeah so I could sit and be smug but I have to confess that I did have one experience while home yeah and then actually I just thought I don't want to drink and then at Christmas I didn't drink had no wine at home I had a sip of champagne and it was nice and then I was like I'm done yeah so yeah yeah I don't who knows maybe one day I'll try it but oh yeah right now i feel like it's such a habit though like i think for me that i've had like a few situations where i've wanted to drink and actually that's just a habit sorry talking about it is actually throwing me a bit yeah what did you drink yesterday prosecco yeah just prosecco i love prosecco i know but prosecco hangovers are awful

yeah evidently i think why did the girls sleep last night i saw something no blake decided to wake up so on the so on the weekend right me and andy will we always do it oh god i really do feel sick so i feel like i'm just gonna close my eyes while i'm talking um so on the weekend me and andy do this thing where um one of us has the monitor on their phone so if one of the girls gets up then they get up and the other one gets up with them first thing is it like a roulette you have one twin each no no no no yeah no so it's literally either one person gets up in the night and the other one gets up in the morning okay so if you have the monitor overnight and they don't get up you're winning because not only did you not have to get up through the night you also don't have to get up

in the morning yeah but you never know it's roulette yeah one of them could wake up so when it's during the week i always have the monitor on the monitor on because Andy gets up at five for work. So obviously he can't be getting up through the night as well as getting up at five for work. So I have the monitor on, which meant stupid me did a work stew on a Sunday, which meant that on the Monday, I obviously had to get up and had to be up through the night just in case. I don't just never even cross my mind. Then not only that, I also scheduled a meeting for 9am the next day and a busy day of work today yes yeah we've sober bumpy and um yeah blake woke up i think three times by the last time

i'm not gonna lie i gave a calpol i was like go back to sleep he sounded like niss from yeah gavin's test not gonna lie yeah honestly i was like cowpaw go to sleep yeah shut the fuck up and did it work yeah it did yeah do you know what cowpaw's great it's fine a little bit of pink stuff she's fine yeah she's happy this morning her teeth are coming through her teeth are coming through so yeah i do think that was what it was but honestly i was just like god give me strength like i would give me cowpaw and i was parched as well like you know you're like spitting feathers when you wake up the water machine had run out of water couldn't find any water in the house and i was like you've got to be kidding me i like insta shopped how many bottles 10 10 like more than liter than liter and a half bottles. Oh, thanks.

And then I ordered five, five gallon bottles of water for the water machine. Oh, babes. Yeah. Do you feel hydrated now? Yeah, I'm getting there. I've got my Stanley cup in front of me. There you go. But yeah, so that is how I'm feeling today.

You're still right. Yeah, I'm happy I'm here. Are you? Progressing. Well done. Yes. And then you'll probably crash yeah energy wise yeah and then i'm when i do go home i'm gonna have to feed them back the

buttons of bed yeah oh god she better sleep tonight let's just have a little moment okay let's just send loads of love and light to the girls yeah for a really good night's sleep tonight for you yes and just let's visualize you waking up in the morning feeling fresh yeah and just like also this week i need to put them back in the same room oh yeah so they've been in separate rooms now for quite a while yeah um because they were sick and then um i need to put them back in the same room because my mom and dad arrive on Friday. So they need the room. It'll be all right. Maybe now they've got into a bit of a routine.

I hope so. They're fine. They'll probably be happy to be back together. Yeah, probably. They love, like, they're obsessed with each other. They play hide and seek. Yeah, I need to show you the video. It's dead cute.

They love each other. They love the dog like they've got a real funny personalities now and they're fully on the move so like i'll be in the kitchen i'll just put them on the floor but then before i know it rivers at the front door like on her way out and i'm like i don't know come back but then when i turn around then blake's in a drawer somewhere and i'm like oh they've definitely grown because obviously for me i hadn't seen them for what six seven months yeah and I went around Sam's last week and I was like oh they're like proper little nearly one year old I know it's cute it's very cute yeah what have you been up to so it's been

a busy week I had a bit of an eggy voice then did you hear that yeah I did as well same time so it's been a full-on week of work obviously got back to Dubai Monday morning straight to the greenhouse for mani pedis and eyelashes somewhere else not the greenhouse don't want to start adding services to you and because I was at the greenhouse on the Tuesday with you my babes wasn't't I? Oh, yeah. Like a team bonding exercise for the new year. So that was really good. So I was working with Sam and the girls, feeling the feels, calling in the sole clients, like sort of just having a little moment to check in for 2025.

So that was good. The girls loved it. They all absolutely loved it. Good, I'm pleased. Yeah, they really did. It was a really nice day. I got some really nice messages after it from them saying how much they loved it yeah i really enjoyed it like i love doing things like that and i've this week

has basically been that and then wednesday i was um speaking at event which was for like senior leaders in dubai so there's about 45 women there oh wow and i was a bit nervous um not too nervous but a little bit I was thinking about back in my insurance days if they made me speak in front of 45 people I just couldn't do it yeah absolutely I couldn't even say my name really honestly I hated it because I felt like it's so judgy and corporate and yeah where I'm like you know what this is me this is my business if you like me like me yeah if you don't you don't so I think and obviously I think I come across well um and it was a really good I did a really good job I felt so I just sort of went more into

my channeling mode I had a few speaking points um and I was talking about the feminine energy in the workplace it was a really great event so that was good and then I had another event where I was a guest speaker at which which was for a marketing company. And it was helping them with entrepreneurs on visualisation and manifestation for the year. So that was really cool. So I had a week of events. A week that felt like a year. Yeah, it did.

I'm like, God, I've been here for ages. And now I'm back into one-to-one sessions for the next couple of weeks while I'm here. If anyone wants to book, I only have space left at Kiani, so you have to message them directly. But most of my slots are gone. Yeah. So, yeah. So it's cool. Yeah, you've had a busy time.

Busy time. Not much downtime. Very much against the grain of winter and hibernation. However, in two weeks' time, I'll be on a beach in and hibernation however in two weeks time i will be on a beach in thailand hibernating with a non-alcoholic cocktail absolutely maybe a little bit of marijuana oh no i won't i did think about it the other day i was like i missed that about thailand you know what it really makes me laugh with some people i'm not saying this about you at all but this just made me think i don't drink i don't have coffee but i do drugs and it's like come on it's quite natural marijuana i'm not talking about weed i'm talking about other stuff but i just mean

isn't it funny when there's some people who are like they don't drink and they don't do this but then they do drugs and i'm'm like, ooh. Yeah. I get you, I hear you. Pop kettle, yeah. Or like Botox, but they're vegan. Yes. See, I am just none of these things. You're just like... I drink, I eat, I get Botox.

I stopped having Botox. Only because I've decided that I want to have some lines on my face let's see how I like it for but I just it's exhausting what getting both up keeping up with all this stuff yeah of like and I feel it here because since being back I today I don't look like as glam but I've been quite glam because I've had events been having blow dries and just sort of being a bit more in my wedges and it's lovely but I just want to be in my linen barefoot I know what you mean even for me getting dressed today I was just like you would have cringed at

me because when I can't remember I've been but my shoes broke the taxi driver dropped me off by the um I went to say temple the mosque yeah because there was so much traffic in Jumeirah Islands I took my shoes broke I had to walk barefoot around Jumeirah Islands oh embarrassing I mean at least it's clean true but I was thinking it's not like I'm in Thailand and that's normal yeah yeah who's this loser like my shoes are broke um but yeah so anyway i am just embracing a bit more of the no pressure but i think in thailand it's like that here everyone looks phenomenal it's a lot isn't it even when we've just come here i was did you yeah we're in co-working space i was sat in the we've just been sat in like a little cafe within this co-working

space which is beautiful and i was looking at all these people thinking jesus christ yeah like they're all very everyone is got dressed makeup's done hair's done suits yeah like high heels heels i'm like i don't know where am i no i'm i'm into like just wearing new balance trainers every day i literally but i'd never wear heels anymore like to the point where i don't even know where they are yeah like it's just not a part of me anymore yeah don't get me wrong i'd love to put a pair of heels on get dressed up and go out but yeah like that's just not my vibe but people are really like on file yeah but what i do like i do think you know when like i'm even looking at these two people now

walking towards me they just look so well groomed but like you dress for success true i always remember my friend um is a doctor in dubai and i would go and see her for example for an appointment she's a doctor like obviously a lot of the times you wear scrubs as well and things like that but she was always and is always dressed so well every time I see her. Even if it's like casual, but she's dressed well. And I remember walking out of her office one day and thinking to myself, she dresses for success every day.

And I remember thinking that is what I want to do. Because I do think if I spend time on my hair and my makeup or whatever, or what I'm wearing, I'm more likely to be productive that day with my work. Yeah, I get that. I also feel like some people are just blessed with this ability to look good. Yeah.

And some people I look at and I'm like, I would just look like crap in that. Or when I go casual, I'm like, God, I look like a tramp. No, I think you're being hard on yourself. I don't think you ever look like that. That's very kind. But I generally feel like I could look like a different person every day if you saw me.

If you saw me? No, I kid you. I'll send you a selfie on the weekend, right? When I go for a walk in the morning with the girls, it is a shambles. I mean, sweat, especially right now because it's bloody cold, right? Sweat pants. Then we're talking either an oversized top or a crop top

because I don't have a normal top for some reason, which I've realised recently. One of Andy's hoodies over the top. Massive sunglasses. Either flip-flops or socks and sandals they had on the other day. It's kind of like Lindsay Lohan vibes I don't know I'd like to say that was what I was going for but it was definitely not the case and I was thinking if I bump into anyone that I know right now and I actually did this woman stopped

me and she was like oh our kids play together I was thinking oh no stop looking at me you know and you're like I don't want to talk to someone who doesn't look like me. My friend she always says that as long as you've had your hair washed you feel clean and I think as long as you feel clean you feel good yeah but I'm not necessarily a dress for success because I basically just wear linen most of the time and creams and whites but I think for me I've got a capsule wardrobe now yeah I'm really mix and match that's definitely the way that I'm going with my and it's also good off my perm yeah because i just feel like it looks the curls look good on me yeah i love the curls thanks babes i do feel like it's a sorry your foot just made me sorry what's wrong with my feet i thought a dog was there a dog sorry that really threw me off

sam's got her legs crossed and her foot just appeared out of nowhere these are not very big feet either by the way i was thinking it'd be more like ernie i don't know that really threw me sorry everyone oh my god i know who's the one who's hung over here i think i was hung over before when we recorded here we had one i was hung over i can't remember well before i was sober before I got my new identity of being sober the rebrand yeah but no I think having my perm having my lashes done I really like yeah my eyebrows as soon as they're waxed and tinted I don't feel like I need to wear much makeup and having a good mani pedi that does involve maintenance but not daily maintenance yeah but going back to like botox

for example twice a year it's not that bad no but are my face changes also i think i actually don't think that you really need it to be honest thanks i use my face a lot i have a lot of expression i just realized that i said you don't really need it a little bit that could probably help with your crow's feet when you laugh and smile. Bitch. I actually had that done last time, my crow's feet. Yeah, it is good. It's the first time I've ever had it done. I actually really liked it. Yeah.

But I don't get it done that often anyway. I don't. As the woman I get it done by, I would not recommend. Have I said this to you before? No. Zero bedside manner. Oh. Zero.

Okay. But she does a good job. Well, there we go. Sometimes, you know, you've just got to roll with the punches. Yeah, exactly. Shall we talk about today's topic? I don't even know what day of the week it is right now. It is Monday, 13th of January.

Thank you. And this will be coming out on Friday. Oh, it's full moon today. So when we were on the boat yesterday, one of the girls was like, wow, look at the moon. And I was like, oh, yeah, it looks like a full moon. And I was like, Jess will probably tell me about this soon. Yeah, so you're all listening on friday so the full moon would have been and gone but right now we are recording we're kind of feeling a bit full mooney actually we're a little

bit howling at the moon with our energy slightly delirious and no it's all good it's good energy full moon there's loads of shifts happening but you know what i think we'd need a whole episode on what's going to happen this year in the energy so maybe we'll do that other times yeah so what are we going to chat about today so basically i wanted a therapy session yes because i'm making loads of changes in my life and i want to talk about it yeah and i thought well you know when should i do it? I thought with Samantha. Yeah. On the podcast. I'll try and be as in the zone as possible. Okay, right. So hear me out a few things.

So first of all, I feel really nervous about going back to Thailand. Do you? Yes. Oh, why? Because it makes my tummy goes as soon as I say it. I thought I was going to cry as I said it. Not because I'm scared, because I know I'm about to start a new adventure again. Yeah. And obviously when I was

there last year I was with the guy I was dating I spent like most of it with him obviously he's now back in Sydney and I feel like I'm going back with knowledge of life there but to like make new friends it's a different agenda this time yeah and obviously I went there and I didn't meet him then but and like I had a month without him and I was making friends and I'm really good at making friends but sorry just sounds just blowing my eyes just went really dry yeah sorry babes and so I'm feeling you're not very good therapist I'm so sorry you you meant to be like listening to me i know i am listening i promise boring oh my god i'm sorry my eye was just really itching i feel like yes you went to thailand last time with i'm going to just travel yeah you know and it wasn't like I'm gonna this is where I'm gonna

live this is where I'm gonna root myself whereas now you're going back knowing that that's where you want to be yeah but by doing that it means finding somewhere that you want to live yeah and making a friendship group and starting afresh really yeah so it's normal to feel like that absolutely and I think I was thinking about all the times I felt like this and I've always like good things have come from it so I do know that but I thought I just wanted to let people know as well that because everyone messages me on my Instagram with my stories I've got a bit of hype last year over like storytelling of my travels and so many people were like oh god you're so brave like and yeah like i am i'll admit that but i also shit my pants yeah like you you were brave to do it but yeah there's still nervousness

that comes with that there's moments where and i don't i've enjoyed being back here but i'm a bit tired already yeah not surprised you've had a lot so fast paced it's just not for me it's too fast i'm ready to literally be on the beach chilling doing my work and just living a slower life so I know it's the right thing but I've definitely I'm like oh it feels a bit more real and also like I don't think I'll go back to the UK until like November my friend's getting married then so I feel like I'm really like going for it I'll be back and forth to here for work and stuff. So that's been coming up. And I just feel like I need to get it more off my chest because I'm definitely a bit like, I haven't even booked my flight yet.

Yeah, I was going to ask you that. So there's a little bit of procrastination going on. I also need my bank card from the bank because it's getting delivered. Today? In the next day or two. Yeah. So by the time this episode goes out,

the flight will be booked. Yeah. But the apartment's not booked. But I'm only Airbnb-ing it for the start. I'm going to start in Phuket. I'm then going to Chiang Mai because I'm doing a car... A car? A course.

A course. On dying. What? Oh, yeah. We'll have a whole episode about it. You do some weird stuff. So there's two parts. It's like today basically to get it's the inevitable thing that happens for us all we're gonna die and then it's about coming to an

acceptance of that but also like your perception on death and then past life where do we go after we die and i'm like babes i'm i'm there i'm with them all the time in spirit so this kind of resonates but yeah it's a little bit weird it's like three days I just think where do people come up with these courses I just loved it as soon as I it's at the Tantra place I was like boom here we go and then the day after that there's like two days of the art of living so then you understand the concept of like you are only here for a short time you go and live your life one thing that i would say about you is you never stop self-development oh thanks i do like learning yeah it's great it's really good but yeah i've thought that the other day i thought you literally never stop that self-development yeah and obviously i do like three hours study every

week with a tentacle so i'm always in the theory of it doing the yoga and stuff but it helps me and it helps my clients yeah and i think it's important for me to always honor the theory of it, doing the yoga and stuff. But it helps me and it helps my clients. Yeah. And I think it's important for me to always honour some form of learning because there's always people to learn from. Yeah. Like, I'll learn from you, I'll learn from my clients. Like, if you always see yourself as a student, you'll always learn. Absolutely, yeah, yeah.

You know? I completely agree, absolutely. Yeah, so thanks, folks. But, yeah, I do like that. But I don't like studying in a formal classroom. I don't like that stuff. So this is why it works for me and but yeah so because these topics like where would you find stuff like that absolutely like i think it's great that you're doing it i just find it absolutely wild that stuff like that actually does exist i'll have an episode once i've

done it i'll give everyone a review like the tantra one yeah no that'll be good i don't think there'll be well I don't know what it'll be like it's a different teacher but we'll see so anyway that's kind of the the rough plan but then after that I don't really know where I'll be and I'd like to explore more of the islands I've joined some Facebook groups because there's like nomad groups for like the islands so they have meetups so basically I'm putting this out there to make myself more accountable I want to get better at going to like meetups where you meet people that are doing the same thing as you yeah because when I was out with that guy like we were out for dinner and there was like a whole group of nomads like all having a laugh and and I was like can we go and join them

like you know when you're like that looks really fun yeah and I didn't really know those things existed and I didn't know how to find them but basically they're on facebook and whatsapp yeah so i'm definitely going to be a bit more pushing myself there also think like what you would probably say to me or someone else is if i was in that situation is ask spirit for to bring you someone ask them to bring you a friend you are great advice thank you i'm gonna do that that's what i would do i've definitely done that before with like things about like a staff member or you know really wanting like a nanny like i was like i just please bring me an amazing nanny that like i love and is part of my family and yeah you know same

thing for you like look and ask for that okay I'm gonna do that thank you that's very good advice yeah I'm gonna do that okay literally just repeating your own advice but yeah no but I'd sometimes forget yeah sometimes you just need telling yourself I might think about that for clients but I might not think about it on a personal perspective so yeah love it thank you so that's one thing also I've made some big changes with business stuff yes and I'm like in the midst of it and I'm like is that a word midst yes the mist yeah midst I don't know that's how my brain feels that's how mine feels as well i feel like jess and i at the moment are in like this like tornado of like work but like it's a good one it's not a bad one yeah but there's

just ideas swimming around us and we're both trying to put pen to paper and get organized and plant the seeds for the year and we are doing that yeah but it is a lot when you have so many ideas to try and put it together and I feel like why I wanted to talk about it is I want to take you all a bit more on the journey because it actually helps me firstly be accountable secondly get it off my chest and Sam's forced to sit and listen to me so I like it you know work through it so I really struggle with whatsapp story of my life you've all probably heard it a million times and probably rolling your eyes as you hear me say this and the main reason is is because I constantly have inquiries for readings and then like personally

I just can't deal with it all and my business is getting busy in so many other ways I'm actually stopping doing readings at the moment. And that feels a little bit scary. A bit like you with stopping hairdressing. Yeah. And I actually put the automatic message on WhatsApp yesterday. And I now will do readings, but it will be when I decide. And it will be maybe for a week that I open up a certain amount of slots every

few months because other work is taking over for me and so I've set up a wait list on my membership and for you guys that have followed me on like the whole Patreon thing I'm now renaming my Patreon membership to the Psychic Circle and that is a membership now where you can access my wait list and lots of other things. But it's not complete. So I could tell you all when it's launched, but I thought, do you know what, I'll just tell you while I'm working it all out.

Yeah, definitely. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So what I want is that it's exclusive now, this membership, so people have to join. And to be on the wait list it's like one dollar I couldn't do it for free sorry because of the system but you pay one dollar a month 70p it's all right yeah just don't have penny sweets yeah one one time you want them and

that's your wait list um but I want it to be that everything is just funneled through my psychic circle membership because it helps me from an admin perspective yeah you've got to make it easier for yourself yeah because I was doing too much on my own so that's the first thing um oh do you need to sneeze um so I'm working that out and I'm starting like an educational piece, like similar to what Sam's doing, where I am doing like spiritual development. And I didn't know how it was going to be. I had a few conversations. I feel like we keep mentioning Sober Poppy.

I feel like that's her name now, Sober Poppy. I had a coffee with Poppy. She inspired me. I had a coffee with my friend Risa. You were talking about your bits and I was just like groups. I want to be working with groups more yeah and honestly this time last week I was not thinking about groups yeah it's amazing how how much like it can change like you say the vision can change

in a week yeah so a few conversations coffees has planted the seed I then ran a workshop on saturday um at sam's salon which was lovely and i had people there that i was teaching spiritual work and they all said they would want to join my like group coaching for spiritual development yeah and we got a date in to start it at the end of the month and they're all signed up which is brilliant so in a space of like a few days it's come together and there are going to be some extra slots for that group and I am going to talk about it I guess on Instagram or post about it if people do want to join but that kind of just happened overnight but feels really good and feels really right and it's like a model i want to do more of so yeah so that's one thing um my coaching has gone really well i've been coaching lots of people most of the feedback

is it changes people's lives which is kind of crazy that they say that but it just i mean it doesn't surprise me at all babes it's just like i just love working with people on a regular basis yeah it's building that like connection isn't it and the yeah the trust as well like with they then trust you to be able to help them and the more that you work with someone the more they drop the guard yeah and the more vulnerable they are yeah to tell you more and then the more they tell you the more you can help them exactly and i just find it so enjoyable to like get the nitty gritty of someone's life instead of someone coming for one session, then kind of wanting the answers, which isn't really how I work. Maybe when I started, I was more future focused, where now I'm like, what's your soul telling you?

What do you need to do differently? It's kind of like you're working through it together. Yeah. And I think people come with an expectation that I'm just going to give them all the answers yeah it's shifted um so my work has moved more into coaching and that's now where I'm spending a lot of my time so there are always spaces open for coaching in coaching then yes what what would someone come to you for so So, for example, some people come to me to develop their spiritual sort of development. Okay. So we use real life examples, so money mindset, someone struggling with money. We're going to go into past lives, what's been happening with that.

We'll look at karmic contracts of where money issues have happened, what's been going wrong. That could be an example it could be that someone like a lot of time people message me and they say that they've completely lost themselves and they don't know who they are and they just need to find themselves yeah people need guidance yeah and we just start to like basically release the suppression and i can see the suppression straight away when i read for someone so what's quite powerful is it's kind of like the shortcut to get the wound and then we can work and pull it out yeah where in therapy sometimes it takes a lot to get to it when we kind of find it quite quickly yeah we do the work on it after yeah so that's what's powerful so that's

that's a common theme and also for people like I work with people that've got their own businesses and they're like really senior like c-suite people as well and it's like how consuming their job is yeah and having the balance of like it's not everything yeah and working with the energy more because we're we we've we've been taught logic over intuition yeah and once we use our intuition which you know you've experienced it since our friendship yeah how powerful your intuition is so that's that's the main concept of my coaching but everyone's different and I have like sort of I split it into pillars of like NLP which is very like not clinical coaching but coaching skills you've got the tarot but the way that I work with tarot is not to tell your future to work out like what's the problem let's work with the cards what what are you showing up as and pull another card what are

you not seeing about this situation you know yeah working that way and that's a really good tool and the same with astrology i'm deep in their chart so when i'm working with a coaching client we're constantly tracking their chart because when you're born you have a chart and the sky is always different so you have transits that affect you so the full moon affects us all but it'll affect us all in different ways so say someone's been really emotional quite erratic and they can't explain it if we look at their chart we can understand and then by seeing that we can then do some rituals and some exercises to help fascinating it is isn't it yeah there's just so many layers to it i do really think as

well like when you're talking about this every i feel like everybody who's listening to this will as well we can all think of someone that we know will benefit from that yeah like there isn't anyone who wouldn't benefit from that but there's some people who would really benefit from that yeah and it's a different way to approach your mental health which isn't that kind of clinical psychological way which is brilliant and it can really help you and i do have that style of looking at the human mind but once you start to go more into the psyche and the soul you get answers and you just see this transformation in people and every client I've worked with hand on heart I've seen some form of transformation with them yeah and it's been really powerful so yeah I absolutely love it

that's so good yeah so you coach in packages how long are they for so they're three month packages two sessions a month and they're really good and then they work with me on whatsapp as well if anything comes up and that that started really sort of march april last year and then it evolved and then while i was away it just like i didn't even promote because i was having so many sort of referrals for coaching but this is the thing i want to like people don't know what I do yeah because I feel like I am constantly with clients that I don't have an opportunity to showcase and share what I do yeah so that's something that I want to do this year is have more like visibility of my work and more sort of showing up so people can learn more and get more from me yeah I think that's a great

idea yeah and that's why like even with the membership that I'm wanting to do to be honest it's all coming quite clear as I'm speaking it feels quite structured in my mind now as I'm getting it out but the psychic circle membership is going to be the core element of like my business and that's more of like a brand now so you come into the psychic circle and you might start on the wait list for a reading and then you join the first tier which is the seven dollar one where you get like audios and like this month I've changed it it's focused on a topic and the topic is past lives so I've shared like a 20 minute audio and my story of my past lives another one's coming out next

week which is all on karmic contracts so like the ex that caused you all the issues and you wonder why you're obsessed with them there'll be a karmic contract the boss that triggers you yeah you know like so it explores that and then there's also going to be past life regression meditations that you all get as well so each month now has a topic with like loads of detail on that specific thing and like in march for example it's um the spring equinox so i'm going to really focus on manifesting for that one because that's the time to really put your manifestations out there so again i started that march last. It was kind of like working it out. And now it's really moved into this really nice space. And people are joining all the time.

Yeah, and people love it. Yeah, there's about 50 members now, which is brilliant. It's amazing. And then I'm also adding another tier. So I've got two people on that now. And I'm only opening it up to maybe another eight more people, where you get a monthly session with me. And this is something that is good if you want to read in or maybe you can't afford coaching you kind of want something in the middle there's like a limited amount of spaces for that

and you just have a 30 minute call with me every month and we just go into the tarot or wherever it is you want to go into or 45 minutes there's really something for everyone there is yeah and then the academy is the bit now that's been added from the last week from the training so it's really cool it's really coming together but I think I had to make some room and stop the reading so that I can focus on yeah building this so that's kind of my priority over the next few months and it's not easy making the room it's not like it's a big thing to yeah to do because you always especially when you've built up your own business and that's how you did start it you feel like or it's it's hard to give that all I feel like I let people down because they're going to message and feel disappointed but then

I'm like I'm offering them so many other things there are other ways to work with me yeah that's exactly the same with me with her yeah so I think it's like that's sort of what I'm feeling I feel all right I don't feel too like bogged down by it but it gets easier I think I couldn't have done this six months ago because I would have felt too loyal yeah when now I'm realizing like people can benefit in other ways and I actually just have more confidence in myself to be honest with you. Like while I've been here the amount of people that have come up to me like oh you look really well, you seem really happy, like the energy shit and I was thinking I think I was happy before but maybe like a couple of people have said you seem really at peace.

I think you just have a bit more of a sense of direction now I think so I feel like you now I feel like you have your shit together yeah and you're like you know your sense of direction even with what you were saying about like a capsule wardrobe it's like everything has kind of been tidied up yes around you yeah definitely and I think that makes you happier because it makes you you've got less like on your shoulders yeah I think that's it and I think that makes you happier because it makes you you've got less like on your shoulders yeah I think that's it and I think I've also started to realize that you know I do constantly work on myself and I have so much to share and like people want to listen to it and people do like the feedback I get is really positive so like there's kind of like instead of being this imposter now i'm like fuck

it just get with it i also think before when you lived here you did kind of you did a lot for other people it's not that you don't now yeah but in a different way now you have more boundaries now i'm much more like will this serve me and and And because even up with the whole alcohol thing, that's because it doesn't really serve me. And I'm like, okay, am I going to go there and I'm going to feel drained and have that coffee? Okay, well, I have to honour myself and not do that. And I think then I can really enjoy it

and be present with the people that I love. But I don't know if this is just like turning 30, Saturn return. I just feel like there's is just like turning 30, Saturn return. I just feel like there's been a big shift in all that stuff. So it's been really powerful. But at the moment, it's all a bit here, there and everywhere. And do you know what? I'm really pleased I've recorded this

because I think I'll listen back to this in a year's time. Yeah. And things will be, you know, really established in whatever way. Absolutely. And I'll be saying to this version of me, likees I know you don't have a clue like literally I'm sitting here and in two weeks time I haven't got a clue what my life's going to look like yeah most people I know we never know have an indication of like what's to come yeah I have absolutely no clue that I have I couldn't I can't even predict I could and I can to some degree

and I have seen visions and stuff for for life for me but I honestly don't know what's to come when I feel so excited about that and just at peace with it yeah I do feel at peace yeah that's the difference I think when you feel at peace with it when you're like because you know that it's going to be okay no matter what yeah and I've let go a lot of stuff as well like I feel like I was thinking about a lot of the pain I felt here in Dubai like situations friendships and stuff that I think most of us can relate to here a lot of that now has left me and it didn't for a long time and I feel like that being here like can be quite a toxic environment for me anyway. I think because there's such a fast-paced competitive nature,

it really does get you sort of a little bit ugh. And I think being away just gave me a whole perspective on life. Even when I was in the monastery, that just made me think I don't want to live in Dubai anymore. And that's still the case. I I love being back but as a visitor yeah you know in snippets yeah yeah so yeah it's and I read this post and it was sort of like you know when you start to be kinder to yourself about the mistakes you made and I was thinking about this at new year I'm really hard on myself with um decisions and mistakes I've made and all of a sudden I like looked at everything and was like but they happened they've led you to here you wouldn't

change that like yeah maybe you made some bad decisions like maybe you know whatever but I just feel like oh it's okay I used to feel a lot of shame for my bad decisions yeah and my bad decisions weren't outrageous yeah no I'm exactly the same but just like jobs I took or like not speaking up for myself yeah or like I even think about my apartment I got here like I remember thinking I need a bigger apartment for my work and I'm like that cost me loads of money yeah and actually if I just got something smaller I would have found another way yeah that kind of set me back financially you know yeah but then I think I am only 30 yeah and I have made loads of mistakes but I've learned from every single one of them absolutely yeah and I feel and there's still gonna be more yeah i mean i'm i know i don't think i'm that's it now but i feel like i've kind

of removed the shame of that which is really good yeah i did loads of spells over new year which helped as well i was down down the river with my dad bless him on new year's eve he had like that chest infection everyone had with his torch and you took him down to the river yeah he's in cold and i had a spoon like for cooking with he had like a big metal spoon to dig my spell in the ground and he was he wasn't very happy about getting out the house and i was like it's dangerous outside i'm not gonna be on my own i was thinking about that actually when you said about going down to this river i was thinking i don't know but then i also think when you live here you just get so scared about anywhere else in the world because it's so safe i did used to hang out down the river in the park near my old flat at like 10 o'clock at night

and one of my good friends husbands used to come home from football and be like i've just seen jess leave in the park and she'd message me like why do you do this and i'm like yeah it's a full moon and i'll just sit in the field and I'd do like my little ritual oh god so dangerous no I know but I didn't have one I felt like it was just I felt safe and I was safe but I wouldn't recommend it if you are an anxious person don't hang out the rivers at night but or take your dad yeah or whoever and then I in the end he was a bit sorry daddy for listening he was a little bit grumpy and i was like right this is really important to me this ritual so can you shift the energy because i need a bit of good vibes here then he was like

thanks okay anyway happens when you have all girls exactly that'll be andy's life yeah with the girls okay so yeah that's my therapy love it i just had to get it off my chest basically i think it's brilliant i feel like you have got a very exciting year ahead of you i think you've really planted the seeds as to exactly what it is that you want to do and i think that you are going to have people who are going to be gutted listening that you've stopped readings but that's okay yeah because that's normal and that's what happens you couldn't do that forever no and i couldn't work behind a chair forever like no yeah you can't and i feel good for it and if anyone is feeling that

come and join the psychic circle at seven dollars yeah get loads from it you know we might want the monthly ones for a bit you don't have to commit to it for a long term it can just be for a few months yeah exactly that there are options my honeys well thank you so much for listening to this week's episode and the um bit of a shambles that it was at the beginning i apologize my hungover states i will not be next week i promise um well maybe hopefully not for a while to be honest um i forgot what i do now thank you for listening listening. Please do the usual stuff, like, subscribe, rate. Like, rate, subscribe, all that fun stuff. If you want to find us on Instagram,

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