Spiritually Speaking with Jessica & Samantha - Car Confessions: Saturn's Return Edition

Episode Date: April 12, 2024

This week's podcast episode is all about Saturn's return. Jess and Sam had a little Mercury retrograde moment when they showed up to record and found the studio closed, so they improvised an...d recorded from Sam's car! They dive into their Saturn stories so far, turning it into a bit of a therapy session, especially for Sam—but hey, that's great! Tune in for lots of giggles, life chat, and spirituality as they navigate through this cosmic journey together.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome back to Spiritually Speaking with me Sam and with me Jess. We are coming to you today from my car believe it or not. We sure are babes. Yes, we plan to be really professional again and go back to the business centre where we recorded last time and we got here and it's closed. We tried. Yeah we tried. We completely forgot and very ignorant to the fact that it's eid and just didn't even realize and just turned up anyway it was it's fine you will actually do it in the car and i was like babes let's do it in the car you know what that is me embracing your like go with the flow energy though because normally i'd be like ah what are we gonna do
Starting point is 00:00:40 yeah whereas i was like let's just record it in the car we don't need wi-fi to record it so yeah here we are as soon as i was on my way here i was like it's going to be closed i knew it yeah and then i was like oh whatever i'm here now yeah and then yeah we're here and actually your car's really comfy i love your car it is it is nice and comfy yes we're all good yeah so this is maybe our new office maybe imagine i'll start bringing in like a flask i know and then we're gonna go for a nice coffee after yeah definitely we deserve it we want a nice coffee and a bit of a ketchup yes a ketchup that's like a bit more um less pg maybe we'll start bringing microphones into that there's me looking at us i know these people keep
Starting point is 00:01:23 watching us in the car thinking what are they doing they're like these crazy girls who do they think they are literally we're like guys we just didn't know we have a job to do and we get it done no matter what exactly yes exactly babes yes we don't let these hurdles get to us yeah we are professional we really are um so how's your week been my week's been good babe so obviously god what have i done this week it's been a bit chaotic yeah my week's been a bit chaotic yeah so i think let me let me get the highlights yeah um so are there any highlights let me think it's just been i feel like my brain's not stopped yeah um so i've been quite mindful to have some sort of downtime um and yeah just a lot of inner inner stuff inner chaos but i think that's mercury and the eclipse but inner chaos is good tidying things up so i wouldn't say there's actually
Starting point is 00:02:17 anything too tangible that i can update everyone on it's more just inner yeah stuff um but yeah well i feel like there were saying i wanted to tell you honest this is what keeps happening at the moment my brain's like a sieve that is my brain since i had the girls oh my god well yeah the amount of times i'm like go to say something and then i go i don't remember what i was saying yeah Yeah. It's really, really bad. Yeah, it falls out of my head. Baby brain is a real thing. Yeah. Yeah, we've had a busy week. You obviously have got the villa. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:52 It's quite a big deal. Yes, yeah. Picked up the keys for the house, which is really exciting. So that was lovely. And Andy's mum and dad are here at the moment. Well, his dad's just left. His mum stayed for another week. So that's really nice to have the extra pair of hands and just like they're so hands-on and so
Starting point is 00:03:09 lovely and it's yeah it's really nice having them here and having her get to have all that time with the girls and yeah it is lovely um so we got the keys for the villa and then literally like the next day i think i was like having a breakdown crying because i was just felt so stressed and overwhelmed and there's so many hidden costs to get in a house and like everybody tells you that but I felt like I'd done so much research and knew so much that I had figured all of that out and then actually there was then so many other ones and it was just a bit like oh god but it's fine like you figure it out um and then on top of that just trying to organize a nanny and that kind of situation and basically i'm going to be on my own with the girls for a bit now because andy's mom will leave he's going to go back to work and it's the first time that i'll
Starting point is 00:03:59 have been on my own with them for a longer day, if that makes sense, because he was on Ramadan hours before. And it's, you know what, like I've got my head around it now. It's fine. And there's part of me, again, adapting to your way of thinking. The part of me that just thinks this was maybe meant to be and maybe I'm meant to have this time with them on my own for a little bit. Yeah. And, you know, we're going to get into a good routine and, yeah, I'll'll just make the best out of it and I've got plenty of people that I can lean on so yeah I think I think that's it and also all I think about for you at the moment is your Saturn
Starting point is 00:04:34 return is like really prominent so we're in Sam's chart she's got Saturn it's returned all the way back and basically this happens every like 30 years you're about to turn 30 um I had mine a few months ago where it was really on the degree and it just it it kind of takes a lot of things away from you yeah so as much as I know you've got like a new home and things like that but no you've literally just hit the nail on the head yeah so that resources have been taken away from you financially because you're putting yeah you're putting it into things but you probably feel like your money's going somewhere and you're a bit like where's it going yeah yeah yeah and then obviously like the help around you like that's been taken away yeah and you're feeling a
Starting point is 00:05:17 bit sort of like it dries things up basically you really honestly I feel like you've just gone in my head and described what's going on and I couldn't describe it. And that honestly is exactly what it feels like. But it's okay. Yeah. It's really okay. Yeah. It's just a little bit overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yes. And I know that it's only temporary. Like I'm very aware that it's going to change soon and, you know, whatever else. Like the rational side of my brain is like, it's fine. Yeah. But then there's also times when the emotional part comes in and I'm just like oh my god how am I gonna do this yeah and you know there's still parts of me as well that's like desperate to feel a bit more like me again in terms of like exercise yeah and it's like when am I gonna have time to do that or when am I gonna but you know what even just this last week and
Starting point is 00:05:59 it's very small but it feels it feels like a good bit of change like I've really made a conscious effort to be a lot healthier yeah even like in my food choices and then that makes you feel a bit better yeah so yeah it's all just gonna take time but yeah there is just a lot of massive shifts going on for me at the moment so I would say that this is kind of putting a lot on like so with Saturn it's also about sort of surrendering especially where it's in pisces at the moment and pisces is where your moon's at so there's like a new muscle that's been built for you which is kind of going i'm just going to be in the now right i'm going to surrender to the now yeah which is what we should all do we're not very good at it we dwell on the
Starting point is 00:06:40 past and we focus on the future but it gives like a time for you to focus on the now and be really present in the moment yeah which actually is probably the most ideal thing you can do especially at the start of motherhood yes so I would say there's a reason why these little babes have come here at this point in your chart where it is really high and anyone that's sort of turning 30 over sort of this year really then you'll you'll be having similar stories but it all comes up in different places so yours is coming up more in your personal life yeah which um it's probably being less of a point for you in your your personal life's been pretty smooth I'd say yes I agree so then there's like a oh my god like my routines change and Saturn is very much about routine and he's also in your sixth house which is service and routine and so your daily routine is being like drawn out into a new way yes so it's really
Starting point is 00:07:30 unfamiliar yeah okay um so it's like this sort of place of trying to work it all out mine was happening more in parts of my career yeah and business so people probably will see that with my energy of like showing up in a different way with more discipline and structure. Yeah. So yours is slightly different. And it's like we've swapped because you've always been. That's so true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Yeah, we have. So like my work stuff is a bit more like structured. I've got a plan. Feeling quite proactive. And my personal life's okay. Yeah. For me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Like it's really okay. Yeah. Which is quite, you know know the normal stuff going on there you've got a lot more stability yeah in that size yeah and then you're kind of swift well yeah you're swapped but you're also away from your work environment right now so that's going to be a bit triggering but it's just yeah there's a lot coming up i'd say um for you that's really unfamiliar yeah and it's about surrendering to it yeah and just allowing yourself to um to work it out yeah you've been given the gift to work this out yeah so this
Starting point is 00:08:33 isn't a bad thing you've been given the opportunity to look at your routine look at your structure look at how you look at the now yeah are you missing the now yeah possibly because we do that yeah and you probably because you're a real manifester i'm always thinking about the next thing yeah so this is like set and going okay babes cool like we love that you manifest but you've got that well down to a t yeah so let's get you more in the moment and let's get you feeling that so i think that's what's coming up for you yeah you're like smiling no i'm just i could just i just agree with everything you've said like I say I literally feel like you've just gone into my head it's all right go at least everyone else has gone into your head now I know yeah everybody's listened you know what and you wouldn't say this so I'm gonna say it for you but this is where I you have
Starting point is 00:09:18 so much value to give to people no honestly and you know not to like gush over Jess all over this podcast right now but you really really do and that is just a little insight to what you can give to people whether it be on your Patreon whether it be on your one-to-ones like you really really do so if anyone else is listening to that and being like wow I can't believe what she's just the value that she's just given to me think about the value that she could give to you oh thank you no honestly I really really you know I do like I recommend so many people to you um but yeah thank you so much for that I needed that yes I needed that oh you're gonna make me all mosh it's funny because you saying that I've been thinking a lot more about showing up and like the impacts I make on my own life as well as others and what I mean by others is the guidance
Starting point is 00:10:05 and just sort of feeling the thing with me is I feel empathy and my intuition allows me to kind of go into your energy field and see what's coming up and like tidy it up a bit and then channel it in a way that makes sense for you um and I think I'm I'm at a point in my life and this is my Saturn story where I'm ready to show up like I believe in myself now I didn't for a long time you know maybe we should talk I can see that in you yeah I was just thinking that yeah yeah um yeah you're seeing that aren't you yeah oh my god I'm massively seeing that like you've completely done a switch round i think yeah yeah massive yeah dial up yeah definitely massive dial up but you know what so if anyone follows me on instagram and also my patreon i've been put like in my breath it's like it's actually quite anxiety
Starting point is 00:10:57 driven yeah like so the reason there's anxiety is i'm loving what I'm doing. Yeah. But I feel so vulnerable. Yeah. And I feel so exposed. Right. So just know that what's going behind all this content involves a lot of effort and inner work. Yeah. There's like a resistance. Doesn't necessarily come naturally.
Starting point is 00:11:16 People don't need to hear you. Yeah. Stop talking. Wow. Yeah. So like there's a real battle at the moment. And I know that I've got to rise above that and I think we all have these battles all the time oh my god 100% yeah and I think that's what's
Starting point is 00:11:30 happening for me with my Saturn right now is you know he's he's going I don't care what you think just do it yeah and that's what's coming up so if I should I sort of share a bit about the energy of Saturn and 100% is? 100% please do. Yeah. So I guess this is going to be relevant for everyone if they think about the time that they were around, possibly between sort of 28 to 31, this happens. Okay. So Saturn works his way around and it takes 30-ish years.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Sorry to interrupt you. It also, I'm also thinking around 60 as well if we have someone listening who's like yeah around the time so 30 60 90 so if you're lucky you'll get it three times hopefully two times and yeah of course you want your first one of course so um that's the saturn story okay but also saturn will bring up sort of stories every seven years as well so you see seven year olds 14 year olds yeah 21 year olds 22 year olds yeah yeah 7 14 21 28 yeah that makes sense so I have nieces that at the age of seven had loads of stuff going on at school like emotionally yeah so you see sort of with seven year olds there's a square that happens there's this frustration yeah so especially like friendship dynamics yeah that age is quite heightened for that and then 14 as well so
Starting point is 00:12:49 it's quite interesting god 14 I can remember that I always say 14 is the hardest age I always think that yeah yeah and then like that sort of age of 21 that's when I got my first really serious boyfriend and I think that was part of like the story that led me to my Saturn's return that sort of hit like you know so that 28 yeah you know we both started ours at the same time so we're both in Saturn in Pisces you can find this out um on um astro seek you can go in there and um put in your chart like you need your date of birth your location your time it's quite confusing so like if you don't know much about astrology then there's what i would recommend doing and this is what jess should be saying is you should message jess book in a session with her she
Starting point is 00:13:35 will do your chart for you and then she'll be able to do yeah a one-on-one or like you know a reading for example and they can you can go into the way that my readings work astrology intuitive and i'll just have a glimmer into your chart oh sorry i need to cough and i'll glimmer have a glimmer into your chart i'm not unlike a full astrology reader i'm quite clear on saying that because i don't like to sell myself as that because i'm an intuitive reader and i use the energy but i do look at the chart and see some things that are coming up, which would be your Saturn story that I'm quite intrigued by because I'm in it. So yeah. But anyway, we're in Saturn in Pisces. So Saturn is all about discipline.
Starting point is 00:14:14 It's about working hard and it's about taking things away from you and sort of real life. It's like, it's the introduction to adulthood in astrology. Oh, yeah. So it's like you're working towards that okay so when saturn's there he's you know he's very um he's a he he's like the father figure the daddy yeah it's that kind of energy the disciplinary but then it's over in the area of the sky which is pisces which is flexible it's mutable it's very intuitive it's very um pisces doesn't like discipline okay yeah pisces doesn't follow rules yeah pisces goes to the floor yeah so saturn there's a real contradiction right now right so it's really like oh like this is not like it's not a home yeah you know so there's a lot coming up for us at the moment
Starting point is 00:15:05 with this but also you'll all be feeling wherever you are whatever age you are you will be feeling the energy of Saturn in your chart right now and so Saturn is bringing up a lot of things for me which involves discipline routine daily rituals on a more spiritual level so it's in the part of my chart which is really spiritual which makes sense because obviously i'm incredibly spiritual so it's asking me i feel to show up right to show up with my voice to share what i've learned because this has been a whole life of building this yeah and now i'm ready to sort of bring it into like a way that people can access yeah so he's helping me a couple of years ago I was like yeah I don't really need to do much I'm just happy for
Starting point is 00:15:51 people to come to me even like a year ago yeah like so something's changed yeah because there's a bit more self-belief and worth coming up for me right now which is great yeah which then makes me want everyone else to have it yeah because I'm like if i can work that out then other people can work that out yeah you know oh i know exactly what you mean i do this with the girls in the salon like i'll say to them all the time because i know how to for example using this as like a business point of view like i know how to build a clientele yeah or i know how to build your clientele the one that you want and I try and like teach them that as much as I can yeah but they're only going to do it when they want to do it yeah and that's it and that's the thing and also things will activate at certain times so what's happening right now is this so on Monday so you'll be listening to this on Friday
Starting point is 00:16:41 if you go back to Monday in the energy it it's the solar eclipse. You'll probably see it if you follow my Instagram because I've been talking about it lots. My message I've been saying to people is you might feel like you should have done something sooner and you're a bit frustrated or like, oh, I've been wanting to do this for a really long time. But now you're finally feeling ready. That's the energy that's coming up right now for a lot of people. So if it feels right, it will happen. And you've got to be a bit disciplined with some activation, you know. The Saturn energy does help you push things forward.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yes. You know. But it also will take things away. So for me, like I have been thinking about what I'm going to do over the summer. And I think I'm just going to head and travel for a few months. So I was like looking at my clothes and I was like, I don't need all these clothes. So I just got like donated a load of my clothes. Love that.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Yeah. I love donating clothes. Yeah. So like that's kind of quite a Saturn thing. And actually like over the Saturn return and Saturn moved into Pisces last year on March the 7th. Since then I have been like reducing my wardrobe yeah and reducing my stuff yeah because Pisces doesn't need stuff we just need like our intuition yeah so it's that kind of thing coming up so people might be feeling a bit like that right now
Starting point is 00:17:57 but anyway so there's that coming up so for you with your Saturn like how do you especially over the last few months I know obviously you've had the girls but to me that was part of your Saturn story yeah so like what do you think's come up for you with Saturn right now if you just kind of went a bit intuitive as well yeah I feel like I feel very similar to everything that you've said I think it's been wild in terms of like obviously the journey that we had to get in the girls as well was such an intense one and like a long journey that I think I feel extremely grateful the way that it has all happened yeah um but it feels like last year was really hard because of that because of the fertility treatment and then this year is continuing to test me it feels like um like things have come up and tested me and you know I mean wasn't necessarily going to speak about this but fuck it I'm just gonna
Starting point is 00:18:58 throw it in there and there's literally zero animosity behind this, but I'm just going to throw it in as an example. One of my hairstylists in the salon handed her notice in six days after I'd given birth, I think it was. Yeah. And that, I think it was six, six or eight, and that for me, it felt like the floor had been taken from underneath me. I was an absolute wreck because it was something
Starting point is 00:19:27 that just came out of absolutely nowhere and it was a really really hard thing to digest I'll be really honest and you know like I'm honestly I'm not saying this at all in a bad way at all to that hairstylist because you know I want nothing but the best for her um you know we're on good terms and everything but I just that for me was such a huge thing that just wiped me which is very time yeah exactly and that's what I'm saying I'm thinking it's very like sat and now that I'm thinking about it it is very satin and you know what like now we're what um almost two months later um and it's fine like now i'm like it was meant to happen and like i say i want the best for her and um i've made my peace with that i'm okay with that but at the time it felt like yeah like literally everything was
Starting point is 00:20:20 being taken away from me yeah and i think that's what satan does he helps you find perspective so in that moment you know of course your hormones would have been like oh yeah so yeah but it's kind of you know helping you you know it takes these things away and it gives you room yeah when things are taken like physically clothes yeah well like it takes things away and it helps you clear up whatever was there yeah and actually sometimes it can be like the things you least expect yes so you know it might not be the toxic person you know it might not be it could just be the normal person yeah and it's really sort of yeah yeah so it's not like it doesn't have to be drama with saturn no exactly yeah it's not even that it is drama at all like you say it's not like it doesn't have to be drama we've sat no exactly yeah it's not even that it is drama at all like you say it's just even like when we left the hospital we got stung with this
Starting point is 00:21:10 huge bill that we weren't expecting yeah and then it's so difficult because there's so many amazing moments in the last two or three months have happened but then there's so many things that have just made me go fuck me another thing but you know yeah I would say like obviously things like the bills things with the house like to me there's been a lot of unexpected like things that have had to come out which is like so unfamiliar for you because you're used to like earning and topping up yes yeah there's like a new way of like exchange and which obviously we spoke about money last week so it's that kind of like exchange that's coming up and looking at it in different ways it's really hard and I think you know you're obviously being shown some stuff there um but obviously it's gonna be a big part of your story's motherhood because when Saturn went into Pisces you came to your reading probably a couple
Starting point is 00:22:01 of months before me um which is a March so you started your fertility journey in your saturn return oh yeah so fertility motherhood making something yeah physically literally yeah you know growing and birthing like that's a very like transformational time yeah with saturn on top of it so it's very powerful yeah yeah it's heavy and then it's like a case of what's coming up for me what growth is there and do you know what you might not know it all right now more than likely yeah and i don't think i do i think i'm still learning and i think that emotionally i've massively changed as a person like i think that the way that oh my god my voice keeps going that's all right it might be your throat shock we're both off yeah yeah um yeah I feel like
Starting point is 00:22:52 emotionally I've massively changed but I think that happens to most people after they give birth anyway but that was a huge shock because it was just something that I never expected like Andy and I both said actually recently we said the one thing that neither of us ever expected was for me to be down after i'd had the babies and i think for that to kind of happen was a bit like a huge whoa what the fuck like we were expecting everything else we were expecting the baby to be in nicu we were expecting to have to stay in hospital longer neither of those things happened but then the other things happened yeah and it is a massive shock to the system when things just keep happening that you're just not expecting well I think also for you
Starting point is 00:23:34 you do like to be in control always yeah and you're obviously you can't yeah there's a lack of control when it comes to small people well actually you can't control anything in life we can pretend that we do but we don't so it's then kind of that surrender so I think for you Saturn's come to help you kind of the opposite to me yeah surrender into the intuition yeah surrender into the feelings yeah uh your your moon is in Pisces so like this is a huge part of you this is like a part of you that wants to be activated so that's what i'm seeing is that you're going more into your feminine yeah what i mean by that is you're allowing yourself to to feel your way through things instead of doing to get through things
Starting point is 00:24:16 yeah and that's so unfamiliar yeah and you probably feel a bit like not failure but as though you're not getting to places as quickly yeah yeah yeah definitely like for even now for example like the girls are nine weeks old in my head i'm like why have you not been back to the gym yet like in my head no no but but not it's not even from a perspective of like wanting to lose weight or whatever but like for me that's my normal routine yeah so i'm you know like you're thinking why haven't you done that yeah like it's in my head yeah there's shaming yeah shaming yourself yeah go into like the shame mentality instead of saying do you know what like my body just doesn't want it yeah like right now what
Starting point is 00:24:56 you think no I'm laughing I agree with you like it's it's so true but that shame mentality is just awful and and it's so like you know we shame ourselves because I should do this and I should do that. And obviously you see people and, you know, they, especially on social media, how, you know, people sort of have it all together and then we feel a bit of shit and whatever. But actually, like, we're all just working it out. And I think we're all shaming ourselves all the time. And what we have to do is I always say I'm quite visual when I think about my brain and how it works but when shame comes in I'll have shame about lots of things um and I literally as soon as I realize that a fault's happening
Starting point is 00:25:37 I feel like I grab it yeah and pull it out my head yeah that's the best and I actually like detach from it and look at the shame and I'm like why am I doing this yeah why am I shaming myself for that I'm like do I want to change do I want to go to the gym yeah yeah no actually if I ask myself no I don't yeah I just think I should yeah all right well do you know what stop shaming it and just come back to it in a month's time yeah that's a good idea do you know what I mean like pull it out and actually ask yourself because there's nothing wrong with not wanting to go to the gym yeah it's just because everyone puts this pressure that you've got to come back and be like yeah this body and you know it's up to you just just ask the questions to the emotion that's what i do i have shame with food sometimes and i've had to go
Starting point is 00:26:21 on a really big journey with like how i look at my body and how I look at food and how like I could talk so horribly horrible to myself I know lots of people I think everyone has this but um I got to a point where like I would literally be talking for a long time in my head like being so vile to myself honestly and when I'd catch myself I was like Jess what are you doing yeah that is awful yeah yeah and I think the first thing you can do so if anyone's feeling that whether it's body gym job whatever just catch the fall yeah that's the throw it away yeah just catch it and realize what you're doing because I think that's the first thing for me and you know what I'm quite kind to myself now like I still have moments where I'm like oh what are you doing with
Starting point is 00:27:08 this or whatever but I am a lot more like proud of my body and I'm like my body holds this brain and the intuition that's able to do what it's doing so it's like things like that so I think you look at your body in different ways so your body and a lot of people say this with motherhood that they say um your body birth these babies yeah so it's going into a place where instead of like shaming your body for not having exercise maybe like paying gratitude to your body for what it did yeah which is absolutely incredible I remember took, there was three days after I'd given birth, I had the biggest bump still, right? Like the biggest bump.
Starting point is 00:27:51 No, honestly, like I literally looked full term, more than full term for my friends. But I took, but I saw that as an amazing thing. I took a picture of it and I was like, because in my head I was like, I'm going to take a picture of it and then, you know, I'm going to document it when I get back down type thing like I'll be really proud of myself but I was really proud because I was just
Starting point is 00:28:09 like fuck it like I've just carried twins like yeah yeah but also like we don't see that like so people no they don't I'm gonna post that picture now you've said that yeah I'll post it on like my story or something yeah um because you don't actually realize sometimes that um you know your body doesn't just go back for some people it does and that's amazing like how lovely yeah that's your gift that you've been given and embrace it yeah I think it was one of the girls from Towie actually Chloe Lewis I think quite quickly after having the baby she posted a bikini picture and like lots of people were like oh my god this is so unrealistic and I was like well yeah it might be for quite a lot of
Starting point is 00:28:52 us because I definitely haven't even looked like that before having a baby but that's her realistic that's amazing celebrate it yeah but I definitely have never posted a bikini pic like now because that's not really my vibe. But everyone's body is different and has different things that it's good at. So I think, yeah, like it's good to show people all of it. Because actually someone was talking about obviously with all the stuff that come up with Kate Middleton, which is so sad. I love her. It's sad oh I love her I don't know but it was
Starting point is 00:29:25 about how when she had the babies how obviously she would come out looking obviously so gorgeous and she's just so beautiful but like that's a lot like so much pressure yeah wow yeah yeah and you can understand why Meghan Markle was like can you give me a few days definitely and we're all like no we want to see that baby now. Yeah. All the royalties, which I am. No, I, yeah, I am. Yeah, I think.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Yeah. Fair play to Meghan Markle for putting up a bit of boundaries and just saying, no, I need a few days. Yeah. Which is that kind of like this thing where we're doing it for others. Yeah. And I think even like, so I feel I'm going on the right tangent. No, I'm really enjoying this.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I feel like I'm unlocking a lot. Yeah. But even like the way you dress, so like this has come up for me with Saturn. So dressing for me, not for others. Yes. And in particular, not dressing for men. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Because I think you're sort of, well, I know that you, there's this thing of to be attractive is what the man wants. So what does a man think looks attractive? Well, like your ass that's good in jeans you know like we're actually apple bottom jeans no man loves the shoulder pad do they okay do you know I feel like if you go a bit not no man but I feel like if you go really fashionable as a woman and you're like I look great yeah it's not then attractive to a man yeah and they're like whoa big shoulder pads yeah yeah but do you think that's because then maybe women then don't look as feminine
Starting point is 00:30:56 I don't even know if it's that I think it's just that like as a woman we we're so beautiful and we're so stylish and we all have stylish and we have such amazing different bodies like if we just was more comfortable in dressing yeah for like us yeah that would radiate in energy yes instead of like following the trend especially here like he's like it's just clone copies of the same human oh my god yeah so true oh my god that's so true yes you're making me think of so many things now yeah so I used to work somewhere when like a while ago now and um there was definitely part of me that was trying to keep up with the people that I worked with like and wanting to I don't know I suppose just keep up with it yeah but yeah I would wear stuff like buy a dress that was not me at all you know what I mean and then I'd wear it and afterwards never wear it
Starting point is 00:31:45 again yeah yeah this is it so it's like going into that power and that space of you and of course if you want to dress for a man like that's okay like but I think why are you doing it yeah like there's not a judgment there but I think for me like I dress like more like I'm quite bohemian now yeah and I wear lighter colors and I really love that and I actually like wearing more color now like back in like the UK I was always in black like when I was in London I was just black jeans black jumper blazer and it's nice to wear like I feel I just feel better and I like me more with owning that you do um like shine brighter as well yeah you do I literally I'm listening to this and I'm like I'm gonna go home and throw out so much stuff I
Starting point is 00:32:34 can't wait I already started doing it yesterday actually especially with the eclipse like it's a really good time and this week obviously is all eclipse energy and it's sort of just you know if you want to get rid of things like even if you don't want to chuck them put them in a bag and come back to them oh yeah oh my god yeah we just got such a sharp pain it's probably a baby crying somewhere yeah that's what i mean you're just you're like oh okay they're fine don't worry just give them a little wrap i'll do some yeah everyone would be like what on earth is going on get arrested especially the car oh babes but yes that's sort of what's coming up just in general a lot of this like feminine power like dressing for you um and just being you I guess it's that isn't it and I think we're both
Starting point is 00:33:21 you know it's quite nice isn't it yeah I like it I like it I like it a lot yeah so I'm trying to think what else of Saturn really but you know this obviously isn't like the most um sort of logical way of talking about Saturn it's more intuitive but they're the things I think are coming up for me and I think it's an easier way to relate to it anyway yeah I think so um and then obviously with this solar eclipse and Mercury retrograde, I know we've spoke about this in a few episodes before, but it is incredibly intense right now. Tell me about it. Yeah, so even just sort of Mercury feels like basic compared to the solar eclipse
Starting point is 00:33:56 because this solar eclipse is incredible. And it's happening with an asteroid called Chiron. I actually did a little, I did a write-up on my patreon everyone can access not just paid members so have a look and then it's all about the witch wound it's all about that that sort of um i feel like the more spiritual powers that women have um and how they've been suppressed or seen as like dangerous or like it's our power our feminine power and and this is happening so this asteroid is with the sun and the moon as it hits an exact with the eclipse right so it's like really bringing through this portal of of the feminine the rise of the feminine
Starting point is 00:34:38 and the rise of owning who we are so wearing that dress with shoulder pads wearing color being like absolutely who you want to be yeah without allowing yourself to suppress because what we do as women and men but more so women we suppress ourselves we play small i've done it so many times and it's like oh i'm not gonna do this because I don't want blah blah to feel uncomfortable and I'm not going to show up in that way I'm not going to wear that red dress because I don't want to stand out I don't want everyone to look at me and it's like this real suppression that we've done and we this is generational this is so karmic how how we behave as women and it's going into a space of of channeling forward who we want to be
Starting point is 00:35:25 and I think what I would say is we actually don't know who we're going to be it's like a tunnel and we're walking through it this week yeah and we're going to keep walking through it and we're just going to feel lots of things and then all of a sudden we're going to be out of the tunnel and it's like oh cool I feel better now this is my new life yeah because there will be a new feeling so it's an ending and a beginning and also like it's a time to get rid of a lot of the stuff yeah that's weighing you down people clothes um situations yeah environments and allowing yourself to release them so that you can have the space to move into this new transition because if you don't let go of the stuff it can't come in yeah you know yeah and i think that's you've got to make room you have got to make room it's really important that
Starting point is 00:36:15 you do that so it's a really beautiful week i really love this energy i'm really feeling it and i know it's unsettling and obviously you're feeling quite unsettled but once you tap into the intuition of it do you feel better already yeah definitely just having this conversation I feel loads better like I've had a therapy session there we go however many people are going to listen to it yeah I love it no but it's like get you a coffee yeah but it's good to be vulnerable like last week i felt quite vulnerable after the podcast and you know what i had so many messages i actually think it was the most messages i've had really and i actually haven't we haven't spoken about this i actually did you listen no no uh so and i actually haven't posted about it which i need to do on socials because
Starting point is 00:37:00 i've been really busy with all the eclipse stuff so after this after last week's episode about the money um jess said so one of us will normally listen back to the episode just to check that because I've been really busy with all the Eclipse stuff. So after last week's episode about the money, Jess said, so one of us will normally listen back to the episode just to check that it was okay before we put it out. Obviously, we're still quite new to this. We just want to make sure that everything's great. And anyway, she said to me, I can't listen back to that. So I was like, that's fine, I'll listen back to it. That instantly, I was like, I can't listen.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Yeah, I listened back and I was like, yeah, it's great. Like, it'll be fine to go out. And I had so many messages about it and I wondered if you'd listen back so you haven't no maybe I will so I messaged my mom and was like can you listen to this and just give me the honest truth yeah and bless her she listened to it straight away and she's like babe she did really well it's really good I think it's my favorite one yeah and then a couple of people have posted and messaged about it. But yeah, I think for me, you know, I am human. Yeah, of course you are.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Obviously, I'm putting myself out there more and being more vulnerable and I'm speaking more honestly about things. And then obviously that voice in your head is like, why did you do that? Why did you say that? To be honest, even I thought when I listened back, when I was about to listen back, I thought, oh crap, have I been a bit too upfront and like bit blunt in some of the things that I'd
Starting point is 00:38:09 said but people loved it like everyone was like actually it was needed you know that maybe it was something that they needed to hear or um yeah do you know what was coming up for me which was really interesting was that conditioning about talking about money that's what it was yeah and how like actually like the whole point is to change movement in the way that we look and do things yeah and the only way to do that is to do it yourself yeah and go through that stickiness which is definitely what happened so yeah thanks for holding me through that no you are i definitely went into denial after that yeah and then i was really busy on friday i was moving loads of bits so i was like sam can you just deal with it yeah i just was like i can't face it yeah i can't face this episode
Starting point is 00:38:48 yeah so um yeah there you go i love this um carpool podcast i think this could be a new regular thing it could be i'm hoping the battery on my car stays oh god because it's been on for an hour i don't know yeah but wouldn't a car battery it only reboots when you're driving i think oh okay yeah it'd be fine it'd be fine if not just you know just stay in well okay so do you want to do the outro yes thank you so much for listening again we really really appreciate it and if you want to catch us on instagram we are at spiritually speaking underscore podcast and i am at hair by samantha green and i am at jessicamarie underscore holistic and also my patreon is patreon.com forward slash jessicamarie holistic and you can find that on my bio as well
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Starting point is 00:40:21 okay girl well lots of love lots of love yeah we've got this you've got this have a good one bye you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you Thank you. you

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