Spiritually Speaking with Jessica & Samantha - Cards & Confessions: Fertility, Affairs & Friendship Dilemmas

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

Welcome to the first-ever episode of our new segment Cards & Confessions! Our brand-new tarot agony aunt segment where we answer your burning questions with wisdom from the cards— Sam keeps it real with straight-talking advice, while Jess brings in a spiritual perspective!In this episode, we tackle big, emotional topics—from fertility and pregnancy concerns to complicated affairs and friendship struggles. The tarot doesn’t hold back, and neither do we! Whether you’re looking for guidance, clarity, or just a little cosmic insight, we’ve got you.💌 Want to submit your question anonymously? Send it here: NGL Linkhttps://ngl.link/spirituallyspeaking_podcast?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAabtXiD-uHspQz2LESPXMATkiD7ljKjk8aLBngYG-x8lwQDzmksEhAD7vU4_aem_hEiB1SFa2bynh6Fr-_X3Zg🔮 Listen now & let’s get into these confessions!#CardsAndConfessions #TarotAdvice #AgonyAuntTarot #Fertility #FriendshipDrama #Affairs #SpirituallySpeaking #LifeGuidance

Hello and welcome back to Spiritually Speaking with me, Sam. And with me, Jess. Welcome back. Hello. Oh, it's so nice to be back. It is nice to be back, babes. I'm now in Thailand. Thailand? Thailand? Where are you? Who are you with?

With a lovely Thai man. Oh, God. Catch up up i am in thailand and i feel very happy i am on my own there's no there's no men around um but all good vibes oh i've got the giggles now oh dear we Jess and I are both just like honestly high vibe right now I mean I've just had a massive coffee obviously you haven't but what have you just done my contact lens just come out keep talking I'm just gonna quickly okay yeah we are both just on crazy high adrenaline at the moment because we have a lot of exciting things coming out with our businesses and we just have been firing each other up for about an hour before we started actually recording the podcast here um but yeah how so how is things with you you got eyesight back i'm back it's all good we have we've been on fire we've been getting very excited because we're recording this on the new

moon in aquarius um so it's all new energy, very exciting. Both of us struggled to sleep last night because, well, you were excited. I thought I had a dream that, well, I don't know if it was a dream, but I heard like a whoosh next to my face. Oh. And I thought it was maybe spirit. And then I was like, what if it's a snake? So then I started getting paranoid

I checked under the bed to confirm there was no snake that's just not the nice part about living there it really isn't yeah no I know and I think it was just spirit to be honest because it was it felt more like them but you know when your human brain starts getting paranoid um but anyway yeah I had little people keeping me awake yeah it's a bit more legit yeah yes and then once they'd woke me up I just couldn't get back to sleep and then I just started thinking about loads of different things and then I just got really excited about life and then just couldn't sleep that's what it's about the energy is quite exciting right now it feels quite um like oh what's gonna happen there feels like a lot yeah gee um and also it is like

um i did a little video on instagram and i was sort of saying it's like what's happening in astrology this energy has never happened before no one knows what it feels like oh that's interesting so even for me as a psychic I'm like so curious like you know it feels really what we've been working towards which is exciting yeah well what have you been up to then obviously back in Thailand so obviously I was in Dubai for three weeks for work babes I didn't know I was possible possible is that the right word capable you didn't know it was possible okay okay to work that hard really and I'm just I'm I just it's not made for me I'm not you had an insight into my life pre-kids it's it's just like I'm not made for it um so that was really good to know that I will come back to Dubai I'm coming back in May so anyone that didn't get to see me don't worry I'm back for three weeks

and basically when I come back now it is hardcore I just go for it um I worked in your room which was amazing and I also worked at Kiani which is a a spiritual centre in Dubai. And I felt so honoured to be working there because they have like the best practitioners. And I met with like the managing director there and they were like, please be part of it. And I was like, oh, and I just feel like really, it feels really good and really aligned. And it makes me feel really good about coming back to Dubai and doing my work and helping people. So basically, like the last few weeks has been manic. And usually I like to reflect, what could I improve? What could make my life a bit more easier?

Because obviously I don't just do it and move on um so I didn't socialize loads but like the ones I did like probably tipped me over a bit because I just didn't have capacity to socialize um so I plan on working um but doing nothing in evenings like not that I really did anything in the evenings but just yeah it's too much otherwise because obviously when I'm channeling it's so draining so I have to be careful about that um and I didn't really have any days off and the days off I had I felt pressure to see people and I needed to actually just have some time for me um yeah so that that was something but also, Dubai is mental. Yeah.

The energy is wild. It's so fast-paced. And I don't think anyone ever understands that until they're here. It's so fast-paced here. It's too fast-paced, for me anyway. So obviously now I've spent, obviously there were six months before that in Southeast Asia. I think coming away and not going back to the UK and I started living this life where I just felt like my business has been the best it's ever been and I was working smarter not harder like I didn't feel this competitiveness

that Dubai brings I get really competitive when I'm in Dubai like what are they doing I'm like is everyone doing a full moon circle should I do a full moon circle then I'm like no you don't want to do a full moon circle chill out yeah you know it's like um but it's it's like you get exposed to all these things and then you're like oh shit I should be doing this I should be doing that and it really distracts me from my path in all honesty so I was just like okay you come you serve you leave and that works um so that was really powerful um like my clients are so amazing I feel so lucky I honestly do like I just feel like everyone is so interesting and so kind. And it was just like, I don't know, it just felt really powerful to come back and sort of, I don't know, just meet people old and new. It made me reflect on the fact that three years ago I didn't even live in Dubai.

I was in my corporate job. That still blows my mind. When you did that post, I was like, wow, that still blows my mind when you did that post I was like wow that's so crazy because I've been here now for so long that I just always feel like everyone's been here the same amount of time as me yeah and also like my business has been going for over four years because I started it in my corporate job so I was side hustling for a while um but yeah like three years ago I genuinely think to this time I remember packing up my flat I think around now I knew I was being able to get redundant and I was like hey you got

four weeks left of this job and then I was like I haven't got a clue what I'm going into like I didn't know what it was like to live in Dubai I was quite anxious and then to come back and just have like this beautiful community and like work with so many amazing people I was just like holy moly like this is incredible like so it was really beautiful like really lovely um so that's basically what's been going on. I got to Thailand Monday, really nice. So I was in Phuket for like 24 hours. And before I set up my business, there was a lady called Roxanne, who was my teacher. And she taught me for like eight weeks. and she did all this spiritual development stuff. And I truly believe that like she came along at the right point and pushed me to like actually do readings.

And she now lives in Phuket with her family. So I got to spend the day with her and I haven't seen her for like nearly yeah four and a half years very full circle moment very full circle so that again was really lovely um to just be with her and yeah and then she sort of didn't know my story so she was like tell me what's happened and I was like well you know like I left my job and then I came to Dubai and I had no clients. And then I was at a place for a few months, but it didn't work for me. And then I left. And then I was like, oh, my God, when I did that, that was really brave.

Like, yeah, you know, and then I was thinking like it was literally, I think, three and a half, four months. And then I went off on my own. And at that point, I didn't have loads of clients I had enough but not loads and I was like thinking about all those things that I'd done and I was like do you know what like I was really hard on myself about all my decisions over the last three years I've sometimes felt like I made really bad decisions and I looked at them all so differently when I was talking to him I was nice I felt I was like god you're really brave like you know you took some risks they've paid off and yeah maybe you

were in environments that didn't suit you but you left them and yeah you know and so it was it was actually really beautiful so really nice so I just want to share that yeah I think it's always good to do that and I think sometimes when you like you might feel like you've not necessarily I'm not saying that this is you but somebody maybe who's listening to this might feel like they've not necessarily progressed but look back at three years ago what you were doing and what you're doing now and I'm sure you'll see some changes god I can't I don't even think how you are as a person that version of me would be like, no, you're joking. Like they never would have predicted that I'd be sitting here in Chiang Mai

in a cute little apartment, like living my best life as a digital nomad. Yeah. Three years ago, I was just about to get married. Well, I was already married, but I haven't had my wedding three years ago I'm pretty sure and the reason I know all this is because I said Sam I so I just like deep stalked Sam's Instagram the other day I don't I'm really concerned that you saying this is now gonna make all the people doing it and I need to go and delete some stuff no they were I just I don't know why I thought I haven't stalked Sam's page for and I'm sure all of us do but you know every now and then you just like go deep into someone's page

and you just like know their whole life and then I was like god that was a big year like you got married then I was thinking from your wedding within like no time you set up the salon so I signed for the salon in the January yeah so basically I got COVID in the January and when I got COVID I was like fuck this I'm getting a salon I'm not ever going to be in a position where I don't earn for 10 days again yeah um because we were because when you got COVID you had to obviously be off work for 10 days and signed for the salon and then about five weeks later opened the salon at five weeks later had my wedding sorry in Dubai so all my friends and family came to Dubai when they had to get COVID tested to come to Dubai as well every single one of them had to be tested no I manifested the shit out of that I literally

was like yeah I mean that's a story for another day but anyway then I had the wedding and then I think two weeks after the wedding got kicked out of the salon that I was working in then I had to go and work somewhere else and then about a month after that opened this place amazing and then I got a dog as well it just made it very busy like like for me being like single it makes me feel really excited for like what my life could be in three years time sort of what's happened in the last three years like it really is yeah definitely quite incredible when you reflect and I'm like oh my god like what could life be for like personal life business like I really do think that because I think for a lot of people and I know this because

I was also one of these people you know when you are in a relationship say you've very it's very quick to be like um oh when are we going to get engaged or when are we going to get married and when are we going to do this when are we going to do that buy a house have kids whatever it is the milestones that it is that you want within your relationship and then but actually half the fun is just looking forward to it yeah and you know experiencing it so sometimes I think we have to take away the pressure of it and actually just enjoy the the thought of it before you know I just feel really excited like I just feel like it's all just over me of like this excitement which is really nice so yeah so that's anyway a bit bit random and a bit deep but there we go that's what's going on

I feel like when people ask me how I am it's never like yeah go to the house sorry if somebody had that on earphones then I just did such a cackle I feel like yeah somebody says to you how are you it's not just yeah good thanks how are you it's like well I'm like I've actually had this epiphany spirit so we so we met up so jess and i met up um last week last week i think it was yeah maybe the week before last week um so my mom and dad are over at the moment in uh in dubai which is lovely and they're here for two and a half weeks and then my sister lands tonight which i'm so excited about she's bringing a little baby over and she's coming over with her husband which yeah I'm just really excited about that anyway last week we met up and we went just for like a casual pub lunch and it was really lovely anyway we got there and I was like so how are you to Jess well that was it it was like I think you started crying but like not

not like sad well actually I don't know if it was sad I can't remember you were just a bit overwhelmed I think so I basically had had a healing session your poor mum and dad yeah I think mum and dad were like oh and I was like I had this flashback from when I was five at sports that was it and then I just started crying because I was like I've been storing this in my body for like 26 years and I had proper tears and like your sweet mum and dad were just like oh oh golly like I was just like yeah I was just a bit emotional today and then she pulls out these gifts which was so lovely and she you've got the girls um a present for the birthday and then she pulls out these gifts which was so lovely and she you've got the girls um a present for the birthday and then really didn't not have to do this at all but bought me a absolutely

beautiful perfume from joe malone which by the way i absolutely love um yeah so nice and um as she gives it to me starts crying again because you were like, you've just helped me so much. And I was like, where is this coming from? I also did come on my period the next day. Oh my God, I think I did too. I was actually going to text you and be like, yeah, because we're always in sync with our periods. But yeah.

This healer is like incredible. I've got tears of of laughter but this healer she's Egyptian her name's Adab she's at Kiani please go and see her if you have anything with the body so like for me I've spoken about this about like food like uh how my body looks all that stuff and basically she brought up all these things about how I have like this shame of feeling heavy. And it all came down to this sports day, which was ridiculous, where I sat on someone by accident

and she was the smallest girl in the class. And she burst into tears and I felt really embarrassed for being heavy at five, which is ridiculous. And then the next time I saw her saw I had another memory of being a kid and it was um my mum's best friend's husband picked me up to throw me in the paddling pool and he went oh she's heavy isn't she and I was like these things I have not thought about like hardly ever but like they're really

clear memories and they just came out and then I just started sobbing and basically what this healer does is she releases it out of the body so then like yeah because naturally for me like a lot of my wounding is like shame with my body. So like there's so much that I've been working through that bloody sports day and this man chucking me in the swimming pool is like... It's weighing you down. It literally is weighing me down. Not anymore though, babes. But yeah, so big emotions as always.

But do you know what? That's what life's about. Yeah. What about about you how are you um yeah i mean for me just get a yeah good thanks but no all good all good it's nice having my mom and dad here i'm excited for my sister coming tonight um the girls turn one on sunday omg that is madness yep it's huge huge huge huge um i just can't really believe it to be honest i know that everybody says to you when when when i'd had them everybody who'd already had kids was like soak up the newborn bit it's oh soak that up and i was like fuck that

this is so hard like and it really was but I get now why people look back on it with rose tinted glasses because they just look at pictures of these cute tiny scrunched up babies and think it was amazing and you know it wasn't to be honest it was really really hard um but um I just can't believe that they're one but i am very glad that they are one and that we have survived a year um yeah it's just pretty crazy really what are you doing for their birthday so we're gonna have a little party in the garden at home just very small um but yeah i am very excited for it and cherry my nanny is so excited she's like planning loads of different decorations which normally I like to be in full control but she's

just so excited that I'm like okay you can go for it and I'm pretending here that I'm not in full control she did show me one of it and I was like we need to change the font of that yeah so yeah I have still got a lot of control but yeah so that's really nice and like it sounds silly but I always wanted with them being twins them to have a cake each because I feel like they deserve to have their own birthday cake but then I'm having the cake made by a proper baker and um I was like I really don't need to be spending a hundred pound on two cakes like do you know what I mean it's ridiculous half and half oh yeah I probably could have actually I didn't even think of that but anyway they're sharing a cake and then I've got cupcakes with

it but then I also the other day was like and I really want some nice little biscuits made and I have got carried away I know I have and it's a first birthday and it's absolutely ridiculous but I don't care I am excited I feel like first birthdays is about the parents celebrating it is it 100% is I said this to Andy because he wasn't even bothered about having anyone around for it he was like let's just celebrate with your family because they're here and I was like no this is about us yeah yeah yeah absolutely yeah I am really looking forward to it um but yeah that's pretty much all my news to be honest um I ran 5k twice yeah that's really so my mom and dad so my pet my whole family to be honest everyone's runners um no one was naturally a runner everybody has done it late run in life um other than my dad

to be fair but anyway and my mom and dad run all the time and they came over and they were like oh let's just go for 5k and i was like i can't run 5k like i've ran a marathon before like i used to be a runner but i'm just not not anyway a runner anymore and then they were like come on like we can do it so I was like all right so then I went for a 5k run with them which was good I ran very slow but I did it so I was happy with myself and then yesterday I was like I only had like just over half an hour to exercise before I had to be somewhere so I thought fuck it I'm just gonna run 5k so I did and I was really proud of myself yeah that's brilliant so that was nice I was really happy that I did that I mean I definitely didn't do it in half an hour but um yeah I was very proud of myself to do that so that was good

that's really good running's horrible I mean it's not horrible it's nice to be alone with your thoughts I find yeah um but it's hard i do i find it really hard i'm definitely not a natural runner at all by any means um but yeah it was good to do so that's that and i'm trying to keep up my steps which is good to tell you what getting an apple watch or any kind of fitness watch for me anyway keeps me accountable yeah i've been on them 10k steps a day since i've had this because I'm like when I finish work and it says 3 000 I'm like that's good yeah see I don't track my steps but where I'm staying is like a 10 minute walk to like where the main area is of all the restaurants

co-working space which is really good and I got some really nice new trainers from my parents for Christmas so I feel like I can walk at a really good pace and I feel like I'm getting my steps in here now which is nice because you don't always feel like in Thailand so yeah also just because your job now is so like it's a desk job almost like it's not a desk job but you know I mean like you're working from a laptop a lot yeah so it's um and same with mine as well so that's where it is hard getting the steps in yeah like i've got like a full day today but i've got a couple of hour gap so i was like i'm gonna walk to the main area to have lunch so i move my body but i

have got tantra tonight so i will be moving in the flow of the body in the tantric way which is very slow. Okay, we are ready to go with cards and confessions. This is where you are going to get tough love from me and feel the feels from Jess. She is going to be using her tarot cards to give you the best advice possible. And I am going to be here with a little bit of tough love. I promise I will go easy on you.

I'm not going to lie, babes. I genuinely think that I am made for this part of the podcast, this agony on cards and confessions. So I feel like you really are made for it. I don't know if I am. Oh, you are. But I am very excited about it. So I have been the one who's been receiving the anonymous

messages so jess has absolutely no idea what any of these are and honestly they are juicy juicy juicy um so yeah thank you everybody who sent them in sorry i was just gonna say for people that are listening that haven't submitted that that maybe want to, it is, honest to God, anonymous. I haven't got a clue who sent them. Yeah. So it's not like the boxes on Instagram where you know who sent it. It's literally put it through. And I'm excited to channel the energy because I like it when it's anonymous

because I just work with the soul. The word anonymous, I struggle to say I know yeah anonymous um but yeah there has been some really good ones and um we really appreciate everybody being as honest and open as they have been we're not going to be able to reply to all of them especially not in this episode and but we are just going to get through as many as we can in each episode going forward and hopefully if this continues as well as what we hope it will then we will be doing more and more of it anyway okay let's do this okay right let's get started okay so the first one i this is more of like a friendship vibe um I feel like the left one out in my very close friendship group of four girls and I don't know what changed last year we're all mums and I feel drifted from

them they have become very clicky and it's like I'm not there no eye contact no whatsapp nothing seems that deep nothing that seems deep what should I do oh okay so friendship group of four people you're feeling left out no eye contact that's horrible when you feel like that with friends and awful much communication with whatsapp so they're asking us like what they need to do that That's right. Yeah. Okay. So let's pull the cards, see what the cards say. Let's work with the intuition. And then also, Sam, let's see what your stuff is. It's a bit of ACMR. Hearing, it's not a very good job.

Let me just shuffle my... ASMR. ASMR. So if you can hear that, there my cards so my initial thought and i actually didn't think this before even though i've said i've already read these but i actually this this has only just come to me friendships aren't there's a famous quote that friendships are for seasons and they're not always for life and i think when you do become a mum, especially me, anyway, what I've noticed is your identity changes, what you like changes, what you don't like changes, what serves

you, what motivates you, what excites you, everything changes. And it could just be that maybe you're starting to realise that you don't fit in anymore with that group of friends and maybe actually before this was going on before but you just didn't notice it and all of a sudden you're noticing it now because your time is so much more valuable and I just think that it's okay to drift away from people and find people who you do align with better and also I'm sorry but if they're being dicks and not messaging you back on WhatsApp, not giving you eye contact,

don't waste your time with them. Like find people that are more aligned to you and that you get on with better because that's not nice behavior. Yeah, definitely. I completely agree. So what comes up for me is I've pulled three tarot cards. So I've pulled the three of swords,

which is the card that suggests heartbreak. But it's also the card that suggests growth through this. We also have the nine of pentacles, which is a really beautiful card about being more independent, sort of in this sort of powerful spiritual place of like, I actually don't need people that aren't serving me. And then I have the ten of swords and this card is where the swords are in the back of the person but it does tell me it's an end of a difficult time so what comes up for me is like some people pleasing so the fact that you're

staying in these friendships even though they don't serve you this is something that I've definitely done and can really relate to and sort of feeling like there's going to be no other friends to make so you'll stay in this situation so I think there's an element of growth of do you know what this is no longer serving me when we think about self-love self-love is not baths and chocolate it can be it's also about how do you honor yourself in your friendship circles so this is something that's actually quite sensitive to me right now because I do feel like my friendships I find quite difficult um because I I feel a lot of responsibility in my friendships um which is something I'm working on because like you just don't need to feel that so what I would

say is that there's deep-rooted stuff for this person who's sent this in about belonging which is very important as humans to have a sense of belonging but you're you're just in the wrong place I think I personally feel the energy is you've outgrown them um so it's not about you being less of a person which I think you think you are I don't know who you are but I say it like makes me feel sad like it makes me think that like you're you feel like you've done something wrong or that you're not good enough and that's not the case it's just that you've outgrown these people that's what it's about okay um so please know that you are not a bad person because I think we do that sometimes and that can go back to childhood things of our parents and the way that we look at life especially that the good girl you know the good girl stays friends of everyone puts up with

all the problems but it's fine I'm okay and then we're like no I'm not so that's one thing and then with the nine of pentacles she's a really beautiful card she's standing there on her own she's got the money and she's really abundant and she's not reliant on anyone so I think there's an opportunity for you to just step back from the friendship group and stop pushing it so if you're the one that's like pushing the whatsapps or trying to make plans I would just I would just stop that maybe you are carrying responsibility like I was sharing with me sorry one moment I always cough when I channel because it releases energy um and you're carrying responsibility to like maintain it and you need to just stop um and look look in a different direction um

I think you haven't got your people now and you need to find new people and I think that's okay and if you're feeling scared you know this is actually going to be a good thing for you this is going to be it's going to make you happier and then you're going to have a much more enjoyable social life absolutely I think step into your power and protect yourself and put some boundaries in place yeah love that yeah well done yeah I think that was good okay next one oh and and if that if you are if you are listening which hopefully you are um I know i really hope so sure you won't write in and they're not if it makes sense let us know if you don't if you don't mind yeah if you don't mind then sharing or just put on the anonymous right in the anonymous

thing yeah yeah we'd love to hear back from you on what you're doing yeah we're here on the journey absolutely okay so this is intense settle in i'm struggling knowing my father has been having an affair for three plus years okay he doesn't know that i know yeah i have no idea if my mum knows i feel keeping this secret is such an anti-feminist and patriarchal yeah patriarchal yeah yeah support act but i know i don't have all the facts i would love some guidance thank you so much okay that's intense that is very intense like when that one came up i was like damn what do you what comes up um oh not a lot other than i think sometimes oh I don't know I feel very conflicted in different ways with this so personally I think if it was me I probably

would tell my mom because I think that's the kind of relationship well no I definitely would because I do think that's the kind of relationship that me and my mom have that I would tell her however what I do also think with that it's very easy for me to say this when I'm not in that position and what I would also say is I really do think sometimes we can put our parents on a pedestal and we forget that they are normal people and you know now that I'm a parent example, and I think that you have to remember that they are just normal people trying to figure it out as well. And they can make mistakes and they can fuck up. And I'm not saying that this is right by any means, because obviously it's not.

But I just mean people are allowed to make mistakes. And you don't know the inside of your parents relationship as much as you probably think you do. Yeah absolutely and I think that's a really good point like I always think like of my parents like I see their love from like as a child which is a really sort of like um it's a beautiful way to look at it yeah but like as an adult you realize you know that they will annoy each other yeah absolutely whatever it is you know so okay all right so with this that is I feel it in my tummy so there's definitely a lot in this is on this person's mind they're feeling quiet it's not really going away so what I don't

want this is the thing when it comes to anything with like infidelity and lying how it can store in the body so that's something that we always have to be mindful of that when we know things or we feel things it's like how can we sort of release it how can we not hold on to it okay so we'll work that out let's see what the cards are saying I'm just shuffling them so one moment okay we have got the deceit card um which makes sense um yeah and we've got the tower card which is really quite a disruptive card um but then we have a card which is the nine of cups which is emotional contentment so there's something about this disruption is happening for a reason that's going to bring good from it okay i just saw a feather flow down my window as i was speaking

so there's there's a nice bit of confirmation from spirit that it will be okay. So this isn't yours to carry. This is not yours. This is not your responsibility. And right now the energy is saying, like, you don't need to be the one that causes the mess here. Okay. Yeah. Now everyone's different. now I can come in with

a personal opinion or I'll call the cards I'm going to call the cards because that's that's the right thing to do um you don't need to bring the explosion it's not on you um you don't know what conversations your parents have had and I think your mum's more aware than you realise um in my opinion and I think your mum possibly dismisses it um in in some element of denial and she's okay with that and maybe right now it's more about you working on your healing with your dad um so that sorry I'm channeling so I'm getting words some when I have messages they come into my head and I have to just get it tidy I trust it um this is actually more about you and your dad um and your relationship with men and your dad and um yeah sort of like he's got some work to do uh he's not able to express everything emotionally so he goes avoidant and maybe he does go off and have this affair for

three years because he doesn't want to face his own stuff um so he's quite avoidant and so there's something about you two with this I'm just going to pull one more card why is it about you too why are they saying that to me I think it's a conversation with dad not mum I actually think he's exactly the same yeah so so it's taking me a while to get my words together this is about you and dad that's why I keep saying you and dad you and dad this isn't about mum and this is about you and your dad so there's some healing that comes from your conversation with dad it's making me quite emotional in all honesty um but I do think it brings healing and so I think when you're ready there's a conversation to be had with your dad to just understand him a bit better because sometimes

like Sam said we do make mistakes we all do and when our parents do we kind of it is like quite quite terrible when they do because personal isn't it yeah and so I think that this is more a conversation with him for you to understand things and then you can work out from that but I think mum mum's mum's aware but doesn't want it to be a big thing. I feel like from the message as well, she kind of says in there, like, I don't know if my mum knows. Whereas like somebody else would be like, my mum has absolutely no idea. So the fact that you're even saying you're not sure,

like kind of makes me think that you are aware that she could know. And yeah, I think that like you say it is a conversation to be had with your dad and it isn't your burden to carry this is a decision that he's made and potentially your mum has made to turn a blind eye to and yeah it is it's very messy and it is really hard when you are a child of something like that um but I think what Jess said is perfect like when you're an adult it's like but I also think like my guidance to you would be how do you want to show up in this conversation to your dad you know again sort of like to the patriarchal stuff like and what what they mean by that is that we allow for these things to happen and we then

turn a blind eye to it which is what the sort of system has done sort of like over generations so I get that from a feminist perspective um but as a woman which I assume you are if you're a feminist you could also be a man um but you know stepping into your power to to understand your dad is the way that you heal your patriarchal wounds um which i know is a little bit of a lingo so if you don't really understand what that means at anyone listening in general your perception of men and something about understanding men with a bit more empathy which can be quite difficult because sometimes yeah they do do things that hurt us so trying to understand them in that way because I had a lot of anger to men so I had to do a lot of work now I have lots of lovely male

clients that I love dearly and that a few years ago would have triggered the shit out of me so that's part of that patriarchal healing but yeah again let us know how you get on please and feel free to send it in the anonymous one obviously yeah um yeah if you do yeah if you do have that conversation let us know how it goes because we would like to know and i'm sure the listeners good as well yeah yeah definitely because i think we it's good for us as well like we're saying this but then we have no idea how well that's landed with that person so that would be good um to know let's do one more we'll do one more okay um i'm currently 17 weeks pregnant after a miscarriage in july and absolutely terrified i'm 36 years old it took us 10 months to get pregnant the first time

and two cycles this time is this going to be a successful pregnancy and will my baby be okay oh yeah i know it's gonna be fine baby's good that for me just is like oh it's just as sad isn't it like that you're 70 weeks pregnant and you can't enjoy it makes me sad um one thing I would say that Jess really said to me when I was pregnant that really stuck with me was talk to your baby and in my case babies and um build a connection with them when you're in you when they're in your tummy and you know keep speaking to them and say to them I used to say to mine every day you can only come out when you are healthy and strong healthy and strong healthy and strong i don't care when it is but you have to be

healthy and strong and when mine came out they didn't go into nicu which not one doctor could understand why they didn't go into nicu because of the size and the time that they'd come out etc um so that would be my advice yeah I feel really emotional again um so there's a lot of emotion here but yeah like you've just gotta do exactly what Sam's saying there let me just pull some cards for you as well but yeah babe's fine babe's all healthy um this little soul's meant to come here and sometimes these little souls for whatever reason don't make it to the earth, the earth plane as we call it. But this one will. Okay.

Yeah, a new beginning is about to start. Yeah. Lovely. We've got a really beautiful story here. We've got a new beginning a new story um it's very beautiful um like sam said talk to the baby connect with the baby and also with the little babe from the miscarriage as well just asking for their help because they're a little soul and spirit um and for anyone that is going through fertility or has had miscarriages

um that's something really powerful that you can do because you've got your guardian angels around you and you're doing really well like the way that I feel your soul you're really strong very powerful and you're doing a very good job of checking in with yourself and rest take it easy because there's something about your life being quite busy so just also take some time for you um and yeah you've got a lovely story ahead of you here so there's a beautiful new beginning so yeah really nice um and with with the rest of your pregnancy like it's about touch as well so touching your tummy a lot it's also for you is movement keeping your body moving it's really important that you keep your body moving because it releases a lot of your energy so any anxiety you've got it then moves it around the body instead of keeping it stuck.

But yeah, you're absolutely fine. It's a really exciting journey for you. So yeah, really positive. You've got lovely cards. You've got the Fool and the King of Cups. The Fool is new beginnings and the King of Cups is this beautiful energy. And do you know what? It just makes me think about your motherhood journey that's going to come. And the way that you're going to be a mum is going to be very very powerful and very very beautiful because of the story because of your past um and when this

baby's here it's going to be really really really grateful and very happy that they chose you to be their mum so well done it's really nice yeah oh that's beautiful yeah all good love that yeah well thank you so much everybody for listening to this week's episode of spiritually speaking we hope that you have loved our new feature as much as we have just loved doing it um and please keep sending in your anonymous messages because that's the only way that we can continue doing this um and if you want to get us on instagram we are at spiritually speaking underscore podcast she is at jessicamarie underscore holistic and i am at her by samantha green thank you so much amazing thanks guys feel the feels lots of love bye bye