Spiritually Speaking with Jessica & Samantha - Cheaters, Closure & Calling Back Your Power

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

This week on Spiritually Speaking, we dive into the real, the raw, and the spiritually complex.After our usual life catch-up (you know the drill), we explore two powerful listener questions:One woman is watching her friend stay in a relationship with a known cheater — and doesn’t know whether to speak up or stay silent. Spirit has thoughts on this one…And another is wondering how to reclaim her feminine power after a divorce and six years of single life. Where does that spark go — and how do we get it back?We’re holding nothing back in this episode — offering intuitive insight, tough love, and spiritual support for anyone navigating love, loss, and everything in between.

Hello and welcome back to Spiritually Speaking with me Sam and with me Jess. Welcome back. We are back onto the every two week now aren't we? We are babe, we're back in cycle. Yes. We've got the top zones a bit bitter haven't we? Yeah a little bit. I mean it's going to change again next week which I'm not mad about actually, because I find it so hard working at this time of night. I know this doesn't really work, but like having any kind of commitment at this time. So for me right now, it is half eight at night and I am sat in bed recording this. And I just kept forgetting through the day that I had this later on. And then it got to like 7 p.m. and I was like,

oh yeah, I've got to record a podcast later. I struggle with things at the end of the day. Like I love working in the morning. Now with Mexico, my time zones are really good. Like everything's my morning, Dubai evening. But I'm definitely a morning person when it comes to tasks and life. And yeah, I'm normally, I can fall asleep easily

at half eight, like I could be sleeping. Yeah, my earliest would probably be half nine. I probably could, I probably could have let myself, I just don't normally actually let myself. I think because I like to have a bit of a longer evening after the girls have gone down. But I do like to get in bed early. And actually I've been getting,

I've had more of an evening recently because I'm not walking in the evenings now because it's just so hot. And I've been getting up at five and going for a walk. I know you are on fire. So you're- Walking queen. 5am club is that what they call it? Yes I suppose that is. I mean I haven't actually read that book

is it what's it called? You should. Is it 5am club? I don't know it's something like that. Yeah yeah yeah. I should listen to it to be honest or read it because yeah no I should but I can't remember if I spoke about this when we were last recording as to why I started getting up at five. No, maybe you did, I can't remember. Maybe, and I apologize guys if I did and I'm just repeating myself. But I basically listened to a podcast,

I feel like I did say this. I listened to a podcast with this really good live coach on it that I really like look up to. And she'd said that we are a lesser version of our future selves. Yeah. And did I say on the podcast? Yes. Anyway, I'm trying to do things that is going to, you know, help me in the future, basically.

Absolutely. And you don't get change without putting change, doing change, do you? I meant, sister, I am- Whatever the phrase is. Last year in Dubai, I think it was January, I woke up at 5 a.m. every day and I felt amazing, but I had to have a nap every day at like 11. That's so funny.

I'd sort of like get so much done and then by like half nine be like, oh my God, I'm knackered. But it's nice it's good. I found that I haven't actually felt more tired I just would like a coffee earlier in the morning that's the only difference. Have you still been off coffee by the way?

Yes I have. Wow. Yeah. I don't think I could do that. So like I have decaf coffee a lot and decaf tea, but yeah, I've got a nice little coffee shop near me and yeah, I get my little decaf latte. Because I still love the symbolic energy of a coffee. In Thailand, it was quite difficult to get ahold of a decaf coffee.

So I did sort of stop for a while. And then when I was back in Dubai, I could get ahold of it and here in Mexico, it's fine. So yeah, I just like, I like, like I've had client calls today, I had a little gap for the podcast. So I'll go and sit outside, go and have a decaf coffee to take a little moment. To be fair, I don't actually have a coffee for the energy benefits.

I do actually have one more out of just enjoyment like what you're saying. So maybe I could, could stop. When I was pregnant at the beginning, I remember I really went off it and I've never ever been off it before, but yeah, I really went off it, which was- Yeah, I don't always enjoy the taste.

I'm struggling a bit with milk at the moment, actually. Like I feel like it leaves a bit of a funny taste in my mouth, but I haven't drunk really alcohol for a while again as well. Not that I've drunk loads, but every now and then I'll have a drink. But being here, I haven't had alcohol. I was just about to say,

oh my God, I haven't drank in two weeks. I had a drink at the weekend. I only had one though, I just had one beer. But I remember I said to Andy, I was like, I haven't had a drink for two weeks. And he was like, that's not a very long time. I think it is. But I used to, yeah,

I used to have like a glass of Prosecco like on an evening regularly. I used to drink all the time like even like when I was first in Thailand like I'd go out for dinner and be like oh yeah I'll have a beer like Thai beer is so yummy and Mexican beer is meant to be good actually. So I will probably have one at some point. But I was like, yeah, I'm pretty sure because if you ever go to a Mexican, it's Corona, isn't it? Yeah. And so, you know, I've, I would say that I would just drink and not even think about it, you know?

And but yeah, I've just, I just don't drink wine anymore. But I did actually think last night is so weird. I woke up in the night and thought, I really want to get drunk, but I did actually think last night, it's so weird, I woke up in the night and thought, I really wanna get drunk, like not right now. You woke up in the night and was like, I'll have a glass of wine. No, but do you know what, it was close, like honestly, like I was thinking, I feel like I just need like a bit

of a crazy night out, like not that like, yeah, it plans to have one, but you know, when you just suddenly have that urge, yeah, to let loose. I've got a hand do soon, so one of my best friends is getting married and I'm going to have one, but you know, when you just suddenly have that urge, just a little loose. I've got a hen do soon. So one of my best friends is getting married and I'm going to her wedding. It's a month today actually, her wedding.

And it's in, her wedding is in Lake Bled in Slovenia. And then we're, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the hen do is in Budapest, which I can say, cause she just know where we're going. But yeah, the hen do is in Budapest, which I can say, cause she does know where we're going. But yeah, the hen do is in Budapest. So I've got that weekend coming up soon. So that'll be like an actual chance to go out and not have to worry about obviously

having the girls the next day. Oh yeah, nice. Yes. So that sounds good. Yeah, I'm sure when I'm home and I'm sitting in the garden with my sisters, there'll be some wine and I'll enjoy it. But yeah, it just hasn't really happened. I feel like I've been deep in that spiritual life, really the last few weeks, like so much

inner work and spiritual things. I think alcohol would probably set me off. Yeah, probably. We'll have to, so me and Jess have been in the talks of having a little trip together, haven't we? Yes, we have. Which is exciting. It is exciting.

Yeah, so we're hoping to get away together towards the end of this year for a few days. So maybe we'll have a wild night out together. Oh, definitely. Or like a day drinking sesh. Oh yeah, I love a day drinking sesh, way more than a night. Yeah, and then like we can be in bed,

room service, pajamas. That is my absolute favorite thing. Showered, hydrating, get in bed, watch TikToks. When you've got like nice shiny skin because you've been in the sun all day, it's like fresh. Oh yeah, absolutely. Oh, I love that.

Well, I have to keep up with those guys on that one as to where we end up going, et cetera. That's funny. Sorry to interrupt you. My sister, I was just on the phone to her and she said that one of her colleagues at work was like, oh, like, do you think Jess will like join a cult? Like she's so like into a spiritual stuff.

And she laughed. She was like, well, the thing is with Jess, like she'll go and live with the monks, but then she'll also be like drinking champagne in rock car or like just fly business class. She's like, so she's just kind of got like these two personalities and it really made me chuckle. And I was like, yeah, there is the two.

That was like, when you came to the bar and you were like, oh, Jess very kindly invited me and one of my friends to meet her at a beach club with her mom and dad. And you're like, oh, we're going to Bee Beach. And I was like, what? I was like, Bee Beach. And she was like, yeah.

And I was like, the one that's kind of like Ocean Beach. And she was like, yeah, yeah. I was like, right, okay. And like, we had a great day. I loved it, but I was like, right, okay. And like we had a great day, I loved it, but I just never would have picked that. Yeah, that was actually more for my dad because my dad loves house music.

So like whenever he comes to Dubai, like we went to blah blah, I hated it. Like I actually felt like I received torture because the music was so loud and you couldn't escape it even in the toilets. Like it was just like in the end I felt like a kid and I tried to put my fingers in my ears because it was just constant like yeah he loved it. I've been there once but it was a very long time ago but I don't think it's my vibe to

be honest. Yeah no I feel like I've still got it in me, less so, but it's still there. And Mexico, do you know what? Mexico is like a real, or Tulum in particular has like this perfect blend of bougie Dubai and Thailand. Like you've got the street food, you've got like all that stuff, but then you've also got really nice beach clubs and good wine and things like that. So it's nice. How much longer have you got there? Like another month? Another like five weeks, I think. But it is really quiet here. So I've come out of season

because it was just timing, but it is quiet. You know, like Dubai in the summer, it's just quiet. Like there's less people around. So like you go to a yoga class and literally it's amazing, but it's just me and the teacher. Yeah, so it's a little bit more like that at the moment, which is fine because I feel like it's helping me settle in and get a sort of a feel for it because I do think I'd like to come back here for like a longer term trip at the end of the year, like maybe six months.

So I feel like I've got a real feel for it. Like, you know, the supermarket's good. I've got my scooter, so I've been driving around. It's quite easy to drive here. It's not like Thailand where there's like hundreds of, you know, Thai people on scooters. It kind of reminds me a bit of center parks because it's like all the forest, like jungle and just sort of these roads and there's sort of, some of the roads are a bit dirt tracks. You can't go that fast, which is nice. So I'm really liking the energy here,

but I think like a bit bored sometimes because there's not loads of people. Yeah, I get that. I just can't even imagine it. Yeah. I've never been to Mexico anyway, but that. I just can't even imagine it. Yeah. I've never been to Mexico anyway, but yeah, I just can't actually imagine what it must be like to be in that.

Are you near a beach? Yeah, so the beach is like a 10 minute scooter drive. So it's like loads of jungle before you get to the beach and there's like a whole row of like hotels, but like it's beautiful here. The energy is crazy. So like, it's obviously it's like Caribbean vibes. Um, but is it this, I dunno, sorry, I'm terrible with my geography. I feel like the ocean is the

Atlantic though. But the sea is nice, but obviously at the moment there's loads of seaweed and it's also coming into hurricane season. So like the beaches aren't like as and it's also coming into hurricane season. So like the beaches aren't like as amazing as like what they are sort of like winter time UK. But like trees everywhere, so it's really beautiful. So the jungle really does bring a lot of energy and like the infrastructure is not like amazing. So like where I am is like a little neighborhood

and it reminds me of like town square or Dubai Hills but like a really mini version. So it's like apartment blocks, loads of restaurants, yoga studios, like there's loads of things on my doorstep, but then you leave the neighborhood and it's a dirt track. And then it's like, you know, locals and how they live, which is obviously very different and you know, it's more poverty.

And so you sort of very quickly see different sort of. You do have that in Dubai though as well. You do. People don't realize, but you really do have that in Dubai. Yeah, absolutely. Like when you go to like Deira and places like that. I think the difference here is like,

it doesn't feel as much of a divide of like nationalities like it does in Dubai. So like there's loads of expats that have businesses, but like lots of people support like, you know, all the small local businesses and like the best tacos are off like a little side street. Like, oh my God, I love Mexican food. Yes, so good. It's really good food. I have had a bit of like a funny belly. Like I feel a little bit like,

we don't love meat either, do you? Yeah. And like there's a bit more pork here, which I struggled with. So I stopped eating that for a bit, but chicken's good and stuff, but like they also have a lot of seafood and things. So no, it's really cool. I really like Mexico and like I feel really at home here. I do feel a bit homesick though, but I think it's because I just don't know, I just want to

be around my family a bit more for a couple of months, which is sort of what I'll do for a bit in between maybe have a couple of months at home. I also think it's cause you probably just, cause you just went home for such a short period of time. So you didn't really get the same fix as what you would have normally. Yeah. And the weather's good. Like August and September is always nice weather at home. My friend's getting married in November.

So that's the only thing. So October, I'm a little bit like, what do I do? And part of me, I've, I really want to go to this ashram in India. I don't know if I've said this before, but basically it's like you're there for a month and you learn even deeper astrology and you learn like the Vedic astrology, which is like different to the astrology that I do. So it's like really intense. And you also become a yoga teacher, which cracks me up because like, I would say that I'm yoga

teacher energy, but it's part of the course. So you just got to do it. Do you remember when we started this podcast and you were like, I can't touch my toes. I can't touch, still can't touch my toes. But- Okay, well not long can you be able to touch your toes. You never know, after a month in the ashram. But yeah, so I might go there in, I may, may go there in October, but if not, I will be going there in the next year because it's like top of my list of experiences.

But I need to chill out a bit. I've done too much movie and I need to just slow down. You've flown so much. Yeah. Right, the sea next to Mexico is South Pacific Ocean. Oh, the Pacific. What's the Atlantic? Oh, God, I'm so bad at this stuff. And the Gulf of Mexico, which is also in brackets, Gulf of America.

Oh, OK. Yeah. Well, I better get learning a bit more of my oceans and seas. Pacific. Oh, Pacific's not that far. Is that? No, no. What did you say? I think I said it's a bit late too. Atlantic. Oh, the Atlantic is more like Brazil. Oh, okay. Not too far. Yeah. That's the South Atlantic. It's Brazil and South Africa. And then the North Atlantic

is like Puerto Rico and Spain. I think you say, look at you. I'm literally just on Google maps. None of this was in my mind beforehand. Well, it's, I've been sort of learning lots about Mexico as well because everyone's telling me that like each part has such like different cultures and things. So I've been as usual, because everyone's telling me that each part has such different cultures and things. So I've been, as usual, obviously not learning my geography, but I have been

learning a lot about the culture. So shall I give you a bit of an insight into that? Is it like we have Scousers and Manx and Jordies? I'm similar. So there is different, you know, different sort of cultures amongst the different places. But it's more like about how much they grow things and like use like there's so much about the land, which is so fascinating. So, so like I am, you know, like cacao, which is like the chocolate bean. Right. Yeah. You know like cacao, which is like the chocolate being Right. Yeah, it's a spiritual like drink that people have that originates from Mexico

and like they I Went to a circle and it was a lady who said they're mayor So the people that were I said about this in the last podcast again, not an expert. She's a mayor I think you say mayor people said May Mayans, the language mayors, the people, I don't know. Anyway, so, um, she was teaching me all about it. So it's all about like, um, how you get the bean and we do, we did this whole ceremony and basically you take the shell off and if it breaks, like the bean, you have a broken heart. Of course,

mine was in half and I was like, for fuck's sake. But it was one out of three. So I thought it was not that bad. But then I just had to like throw it away into the fire and then I got a new one and it wasn't broken. I was like, good news babes. Imagine if they just kept breaking. I was thinking, oh fuck's sake, like every single bean is like shattered in half. But no, but there was like a 14 year old boy next to me and all of his broke. And I was like, single bean is like shattered in half. But no, but there was like a 14 year old boy next to me and all of his broke and I was like, babes what has gone on in those 14 years of your life

to have all this heartbreak? And he was like, I've not even kissed a girl. I was like, oh babes, maybe that's the heartbreak. Maybe you need to kiss a girl. So, so I was learning lots about that. And then we sort of like, yeah, it was really powerful. Like it was amazing. And then she sort of like, yeah, it was really powerful. Like it was amazing. And then she like taught us how to make it.

And yeah, I just think it's fascinating how they turned this bean into chocolate, you know? Like it's so clever. So I did a whole sort of ceremony with that. Obviously I've been going into the sweat lodges, the Temescales, which has been really good. But they really honor the summer solstice here, which was really nice. So that was on the weekend. So we're recording this on Monday, this is coming out Friday, so the weekend before.

And summer solstice is obviously the longest day of the year. We acknowledge it in England. And it was really powerful, like we did loads of beautiful like mantras and rituals, but they really love it here. Like it's so nice. And it just made me think, you know, like us Brits, you know, obviously we've got like Henry VIII and the six wives and like the royal family history and whatever, but like we don't as a family go and sit around the fire at summer solstice and you know,

honor the seasons and do you know, if I said that to my lot, even in the group WhatsApp, I'm like happy summer solstice guys and they're all just a bit like, they don't even really respond to it. They're just like, have a good day, babe. Yeah, no, my family be like, you're right babe. Yeah. But I was like, God, like here, like they honor so much of what their ancestors have done for such a long time. And it just, it just highlighted to me like how disconnected we are from like that stuff because our ancestors would have honored this like they absolutely would have because the longest day with all that you know sun and light would

have helped the farmers and the crops and you know they would have been so much connected to that you know like the harvest festival like a school. I think yeah yeah yeah I think as well though when you go somewhere like Mexico I think they're just more in touch with like the world and like the reality mother earth yeah I think they are I think like in the UK especially and obviously Dubai I think we've just lost that. Well the Western world has disconnected and I think that's probably what I've been craving is like that connection to these things so yes I've been craving is like that connection to these things. So yeah, so I've been learning lots. And the energy is really intense here. But yeah, I just, it really made me think like, you know, just like how you pass a recipe down the family,

like you just hear less of that now because there's so much like technology and things. And I don't know, it just really made me think, you know, so like, it's like, cause I've got loads of stuff from like great grandparents. I've got like handkerchiefs from my great granddad. Like I didn't even know him. Because I feel like when I have kids, I wanna be like, here is like all the stuff from grandparents, great grandparents, great grandparents. But I just don't think it happens anymore, you know?

Yeah, probably not as much. Also you get kids like me that are just like not as, yeah. Like I probably have kids like that, but yeah, maybe. But like, don't get me wrong. Like I have like my grandma's wedding ring and my granny's ring and stuff like that. But I'm not as attached to that kind of stuff. Like my sister or my mom, they would keep everything.

Whereas I just wouldn't really be like that. Yeah. I think it's more sacred. Like, you know, when you sort of honor like the people before you, because they were more connected because they didn't have all the distractions we have and stuff.

So yeah, I just thought it was quite, don't know, just it brought up a lot for me. And then I was just- Also we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for that. Absolutely. And I was saying to Sam, so I've been singing more recently, like not like publicly, and I can't sing. Yes. That'd be next.

Karaoke. But on my scooter, like I'm sort of, you know, it's all the jungle around me, no one's around, so I started singing more. And I've been singing while I've been, obviously I haven't got the radio on, so I'm just sort of making it up as I go. By midway through, I realized that I was basically singing in a Victorian West End Oliver Twist sort of voice. And I was literally going, I want to thank my mother, my grandmother. And honestly, when I realized what I was doing, I just burst out laughing, but I was just

on my own and I was like, God, I am so fucking weird. But like honestly, I went full like West End production. It just was very natural for me. I love that. I used to like, when I'd be driving to work, I would be like full jam, like, you know, Beyonce, whatever it was, Cher, Tina Turner, I fucking love it. Like, just really go for it. Like, I don't really do that anymore because I'm always listening to like a podcast or a book. But every now and then, I love it. I absolutely love it.

It was so euphoric. I was making poems. I was literally like, I could see you son. I'm here today. It is so fun. I was singing like that and I was like, oh my goodness, this is me. That is just the weirdest thing I've ever heard. Honestly, I did it for like 15 minutes. Didn't stop. Oh my God. But you know what though, there is something to be said about that because you're raising your vibration. It felt good. Like you need to read that. I mean, you know all about this anyway, but if you read that book, High Vibe, Good Life High Vibe, whatever it is. Vex King, that book, he says all about stuff like that and it is, there is a lot of truth behind it.

There is. And what it does for you. In fact, oh my God, I forgot that I used to do this. I mean, we'll do an episode properly about manifesting at some point, but if you can manifest with music, it is like wild. And I remember there's a song called, Tell Me Something Good.

Do you remember, do you know what song I mean? No, sing it, come on. Oh no, I can't sing. Come on, just sing it. Play music. No, come on. Oh no, I can't find my phone, this is terrible. No, it's like, Tell Me Something Good.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that one. And it's not like a dance song, but anyway, I used to, before my wedding, right, because my wedding was around COVID time and everybody had to get a test to come over, like it was quite stressful in that sense. I listened to that on my way to work every day and I would sing to myself like,

tell me something good and I'd be like, tell me everyone, everyone is negative. Yeah. I love that. I'm going to do that. Every day I would sing that and I remember I picked my sister up. My sister came to the bar three days before me, before me, sorry, before everyone else. And I told her what I'd been doing and she was like, right, like she obviously was like laughing, but also just like, good for you. My sister's the most supportive person in the entire world.

Like I could tell her I was doing, you know, 20 jumping jacks a day to make it work. And she'd be like, okay. Like she's so sweet. But anyway, so she was like full on getting on it with me. And then it's just really funny. And then everybody tested negative for this, for the wedding.

But yeah, I used to literally every day I'd be like, tell me everyone's negative, yeah. Yeah. So guys, you've got two options. Listen to, tell me something good or channel the inner Victorian Oliver Twist and just let the words come out. You know, honestly, I wish I recorded it.

It was honestly, it was some great, great rhyming. Record it next time. I will, I will. So yeah, anyway. Oh babes. What's going on with you? You're obviously gonna be heading back. Yes, so I travel home a week today.

I will be at home. Nice. Which will be really nice. So I'm looking forward to that. I am excited now to get back. Like a couple of weeks ago, me and Andy were like, we weren't like overly excited as in like, we weren't not looking forward to it. I'm just saying we weren't desperate to be going back. And then now I'm like, no, I'm really ready now. It's actually

the longest I've ever not been home for. I've not been home for a year. Yeah. Have you not? Yeah, yeah, no, I get that. That can be- Because I've always, I've always, I always used to go back for like three days here and there, like without Andy, I'd go back for, I'd have a wedding, I'd have something on that I'd be going back for. And just haven't, obviously now,

like my life's obviously very different now. I can't just do that when I've got the girls. So yeah, I haven't been home for a year, which is crazy to think. But I am really looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to being able to just get outside with them because obviously it's so hot now. Like we just, we really are like cooped up every day

in terms of that. So yeah, I am really looking forward to it. Little bit apprehensive how we will manage with different things, but we'll figure it out. And just looking forward to seeing my friends. But did you decide with a car? What did you decide with that? Oh, I was still none the wiser on that, just,

my dad, my mom and dad had been on holiday. They'd been in Canada for like three weeks. And my dad, God bless him, is the type of person, exactly what I will be like, by the way, when my girls are older, where like I text him and I was like, oh, I'm not sure yet what we're gonna do with the car, we're either gonna buy one or rent one,

but obviously it's not that different in price, to be honest, anyway. He was like, let me have a look for you when I get home. I was like, okay. I was was like let me have a look for you when I get home I was like okay I'll bless him I was like you can have a look yeah so I'm just leaving it up to him to be honest he'll advise me either way um but we'll probably just rent one I imagine for the summer um there's just so many logistics to think about when you're thinking about for four people I haven't even started packing yet but again that, that'll just, it'll come together, it'll be fine. It's easier when you go home though,

because you know the supermarkets and stuff. Oh yeah. You just don't have to worry about stuff like any, if I was going to Spain, it'd be so different. Like, but going back to the UK, like I don't have to worry about nappies, wipes, food. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, it's really not that big of a deal. Most of the stuff, if I forget it, I can get it there.

Yeah, it's really not that big of an issue. So yeah, so that's kind of all I've got really going on. I'm thinking I might even have a little bit of like a break while I'm at home, did I say this to you before? No, what are you thinking? I'm thinking even like, I don't know, like with my social media, I'm very active on it on what used to be my hair page,

but I'm very active on it, always have been. And to be honest, it doesn't really consume me. I'm just quite natural with it, it doesn't, it's not something I think about, but I just feel like I might just have a break from it while I'm at home, and I've never done that before. That's so interesting. I feel like there's might just have a break from it while I'm at home. And I've never done that before. I feel like there's a bit of a shift happening with social media that I felt energetically.

I've seen it with quite a few people that I follow that just aren't posting as much. And I haven't really. I think it's the time difference. If I post something, everyone's sleeping in Dubai. So I'm just like, I don't get around to it as much. And I genuinely feel like when I'm not as focused on socials, I'm much happier. I know it doesn't consume me like it used to trigger the shit out of me, where now I'm just a bit like,

I don't know, there's a different energy. Yeah, and yeah, I don't know, I just think as well though, for me for so long, I had to be active on it to build my business. Like I really did build my clientele, I built my business through social media and I will continue to encourage my staff to do the same thing.

But right now, it doesn't rely on that. So I feel like I get, I actually do still get like a lot from it. But I still think, I don't know, I just feel like maybe I'll have a little bit of a break. So we'll see. I don't know if I will or not, but that's my thought process that I might have a little little break with it. Yeah, no, I've been thinking a lot about socials recently. I just wish social media didn't exist. Really? I just feel like the world would be such a nicer place.

I feel like everyone would be happier. I really do. Like I really, really do think that. And I think that like, you know, there's so much pressure with socials and WhatsApp and, you know, we just get, we absorb so much information in a day and I just think it's really not good for us, you know?

Yeah, I get, I completely get it, I do. And I think there should be, it's gone too far, I think, social media. But I see so much positive in it. I just think, like I say, for how I've obviously grown my business, literally it's purely through social media. Word of mouth, yeah, but social media,

like through COVID, I built, when I went into COVID, I'd only been in a salon for like five months at that point and I was still building my clientele. I came out of COVID and I was fully booked because I worked so hard through lockdown on social media. And I don't know, like I really enjoy it because I learn a lot from it as well.

And it inspires me. Like I get access by being on social media, right? I get access from like, I get access to somebody like Emma Greed who I find really inspirational or that Dior Bedico or someone like Rochelle Humes, for example, people who are doing things that I'm inspired by. I feel like you get inspiration and you get a little bit of access to that through social media. So that's the way that I see it. But

I do get what you're saying from a different perspective in terms of it does put a lot of pressure on people. Yeah, like I think if you're a business owner or you're someone that wants to like learn, like because I know people learn from the things I post and I really love sharing what I share, but I think it took such a long time for me to work out what I felt comfortable sharing. And yeah, I just think, I don't know, especially in Dubai, I actually unfollowed loads of people from Dubai, not anything personal, but I just found it all a bit much.

And I was just like, gosh, it's so intense. I have a personal account that I just have close friends and family on that I'll obviously post pictures of the girls and stuff on there, but I'm thinking of removing so many people off that. Because I'm just like, you know what, like without sounding awful, I wouldn't go and see you when I went home, for example,

and I wouldn't stand and chat to you probably in the street. So why are you then having access to pictures of like me with my kids or do you know what I mean? So I get it, like I completely get it. Mine's the other way around. Like there's some people that I just don't feel like I need to remember. And then like they pop up and then like,

I don't know, a memory comes up or like, and I feel like I'm attached to this person. I'm like, if I didn't have social media, would I still be friends with them? You know, or like- And you're not friends with them anyway. You just like have them on. I just have seen their whole life.

Yeah. So I do feel like I actually got rid of loads of people on my personal and I feel much better for it. I don't know really what goes on with most people now. Cause I don't really like to follow people also because it affects my readings if I know too much about someone's life. So like I don't follow clients back, things like that, just for that reason. But yeah, I find like I've got school

friends and I'm only friends with them. Sounds awful because we're on the same WhatsApp group, and this is like, I don't really see them, but I think, would I still be friends with them if I didn't have social media? I don't know. Yeah, I get it. I do get it. I definitely do. I think I'm going to have a big clear out actually on mine. I already have one. Do it. I'm really sensing a big purge. Do it.

That's a bloody loony. It's definitely purging energy right now. Right, let's- I do also, sorry. I do also feel though, like I need to, I feel a bit like, you know, I'm just gonna have a bit of a clear out. You feel like you have to say, I don't want people to be like,

oh, she's been a bit of a bitch, she's removed me you have to say, I don't want people to be like, oh, she's been a bit, she's removed me. I actually think like, just don't say anything because I know you said it on the podcast, but when people say on Instagram, oh, sorry, I've been really quiet on here. I'm like, yeah, I didn't notice like, I don't mean in a horrible way, but like, that's lovely.

But like, I'm not, you know, when I just see people post, I'm like, oh, it's nice to see their story again. Like, so I just find like, if you want a break, don't advertise it. You've said it, but like on your Instagram, and just have a break. And then when you come back, you come back and he's like, yeah, that's what I find. Don't label it babes. Should we pull some cards for us and then we'll do the questions. Cause I feel like I need some messages from spirit today. Do you have a question or do you want me to just pull a card?

Do I have a question? I don't think so. What should Sam do about social media? Yeah. Delete it all together. No, I'm joking. I don't think I do have a question. Let's do you, sorry. Go on. I was don't think I do have a question. Let's do, sorry.

I was gonna say you can do yours first if you want. What about the things for the summer for us both? We've had the summer solstice just happened, like we've both got a few months of, in Dubai, everything switches off until September. So there's this lovely little purging, very sad energy, isn't there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.

September's like a whole new year in Dubai. It really is, it really is. I know the school year as well for a lot of people, they feel that as well. So let's have a little look from now till September. So for Samantha, oh, okay. So we have got one, two, three, four, five, seven of swords so you can feel a bit stuck.

Four of cups is a little bit about emotional frustration, but we've got the independent babe. So, and that's the nine of pentacles. She's a really lovely card. So what this tells me for you over the summer is allow yourself to purge, allow yourself to have a break, allow yourself to reset, because it's going to be the best thing for you. Don't shame yourself for it.

Don't rush it. Just allow it. And the fact that you're going to be with your family gives you space to surrender. You're going to have your mum and dad's help. You'll be going for walks, but don't feel this pressure to see this as like a doing time. I actually think this is more about resetting and realigning. Yeah, I agree. I do agree 100%. Cause I'd said to Andy before we were going to, before like going home, I was like, you know, I do need to set time aside to like work as well

while we're at home. And then he said to me the other day, he was like, just let me know like what days you're going to be working. And then he said to me the other day, he was like, just let me know what days you're gonna be working. And then I was like, I don't actually need to set aside a time, do you know what I mean? Like my work for the salon, yeah. Literally my work for the salon will be more like everyday little bits here and there.

But my work that I'm talking about is different because I'm building something. So that's different, but I don't actually need to do any of that while I'm at home. I think like I actually never do this and I always advise this, but I've given this advice for myself as well. I get so distracted by being around everyone that I just like forget to do things. So like I just say yes to things because I just want to be with my sisters and the kids. And then all of a sudden I'm like, I've done no admin. I've not done the things I've wanted to do. So I just think like set an intention of like once a week, you go take your laptop to a coffee shop and

like obviously we'll do the podcast still. So you'll have that, but like just once a week, have a little hour or two for you where you just do, you know, get on top of things, any ideas that come up, have a chat with Leah at the salon. Do you know what I mean? Like that's- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah.

I think that's a little thing for you. Yeah. Okay. I concur. Spirit, what's my summer energy message? Oh, Knight of Cups. Hello. Venus, bring me the penis. Yes, please. No, do you know what? I've had a real detox of that side of things. It's been quite good

actually. I've had so many dreams about ex-boyfriends. It's ridiculous. Like every night, a different one from 10 years ago. And actually on reflection, I think he groomed me. Oh, he was, it was in my corporate job. I was like 17 when I started working in London and he was like 18 years older than me. I actually never said he was 18 years older than you. And he had a really big job and he just really liked me and he had at me as if I was a stage job. He had a big knob. No, do you know what? I never saw it, so it wasn't like that.

But it was just like emotional. We held hands and had a little kiss once and I remember thinking, you're too old. Like I was literally like, oh no, you're too old. And then in my dream, I woke up thinking, what the fuck was that about? Like I was so young and he knew better. Like that was really inappropriate. God, that's so bad.

Yeah, I know. Anyway, I don't think he's back into my life. He'd be like 50 now. Yeah, Jesus. I might have a wrinkly willy. You never know, I might have to put my bumble age up. No, I don't think so. All right, sorry. I got distracted. Okay.

So I've got the night of cups, the page of ones, one, two, three, four, five, six, eight of cups. So walking away from things as well. So there's something about like shedding, releasing, walking away from things that are no longer serving me. Are you there? Oh yeah, sorry. You look like you froze then, sorry. No, I'm listening intently. You're like, why is she not yawning? You didn't blink for about a minute.

Listening with my eyes. You're sleeping with your eyes open, you slave. Yeah. I'll be soon. We'll wrap this up. You're like bloody hell, cheers. So the night of clubs is like emotional things. So there's a lot of emotional stuff for me, it's a story of a life.

But I think walking away from some things that aren't serving me, making loads of changes of work so it could connect to that because I actually feel very emotional about my work, like it is everything to me. So there could be that. And then I've got the page of Wands, which is the start of new things.

And the Wands is fire, so it could be inspiration and new things like that. Sam's now really blinking, so I know she's still awake. And so yeah, I think both of us have been asked to make some shifts and changes in this summer cycle, which actually all of you will be because we've got a really lovely time going on. Jupiter's moved into Cancer. Yeah, baby, we like that. It's where it's happy, but it is having a square to Saturn and Saturn brings a little bit of limitation and that is happening for the next two months. So you may feel like

you want to make progress. So that means Sam, there's loads of things we want to do, but it's like spirit of saying, chill out, tidy up, purge, clean up before you move forward. So all of you may be feeling something similar. Love that. And watch this space. You'll see how our summers go. before you move forward. So all of you may be feeling something similar. Love that. And watch this space, you'll see how our summers go. What do you wanna do? I feel bad, you look quite tired. Do you wanna do the questions next episode?

No, I feel like you need to go sleep my girl. No, we will do the questions. Do you need a coffee? Oh, I would love a coffee, I'd love a wine to be honest. I'll tell you what, if I, if I could, you know what, I just wish that I had in my fridge, although it probably would be not very good, like mini bottles of Paseco, mini bottles of wine. Because once I open one, I fucking love a glass of Fizz, once I open one, that's it. Then I have to have it throughout the rest of the week. I can't let it go flat. But going home, me and my dad drink Paseco together

like almost every night. So. That's what it's about. Yeah, that is what it's about. Did it say that on the cards? It did. It said get that Paseco go. No, I think like mini bottles is a good option

because like you say, you can then just have a glass. Yeah, exactly. All right, let's see what's going on. Right, let's go in. Okay. Yeah, exactly. All right. Let's see what's going on. Okay. Yeah, this one. Right. I have a very good friend who is seeing a guy who cheated on his wife with her. We all really don't like him. We're afraid he might be a narcissist. Is he? And what's the best way to be there for her without alienating her? Oh, that's very empathetic and aware. That's very tricky.

I think we could all probably relate to a friend being with a guy that cheats, or you've been that person. Yeah. Yeah. That is really hard. I think, oh, it's really hard.

It depends on the type of person that you are as well as in the friend, because obviously different people approach situations differently. I'm very blunt and very direct with things I would say. So I would probably be the type of friend that would be like, you keep them how you find them. Yeah, it's fair in my opinion.

I don't think that obviously always happens, but I do think if he's showing signs of also being a bit narcissistic and he's got with her by cheating on his wife, then, you know, chances are history is gonna repeat itself. Possibly, yeah. Okay, I hear you.

So I actually had a friend in a really similar situation and this was quite a few years ago and it really affected our friendship, like really affected it. I felt like we couldn't really talk because when we were together, it didn't feel genuine. So I'm sure this person feels a bit like that. And you're sort of, you know,

when you're happy for your friends, you want to hear her think about their life. Do you know what I mean? Like, you know, when they're with a good guy, like, you know, you just, you can enjoy the conversation. But when you know your friends are someone who's not good, it's really hard to like be authentic in that conversation. I struggle with that.

I can really struggle with being authentic with someone when there's stuff that's going on. There's an elephant in the room that nobody's talking about. Yeah, and I think it's really tricky. So the cards that we've pulled, they're quite intense. So there is the tower card. So the tower card is like, shakes things up. It's very disruptive.

It's bringing up issues you know, so this isn't gonna be smooth, I'd say and My advice is different to Sam's and How important is your friendship and if you love this friend and value this friend and How can you support her without it consuming you because that's the decision I had to make with my friend and value this friend, how can you support her without it consuming you? Because that's the decision I had to make with my friend. Because my friend decided to carry on this relationship and I did act, I was honest because it had gone on for quite a long time, there was a lot of issues and I said, Jo, I'm just going to be really honest

with you, you know, this is how I feel and, but I love you and I'm here for you. But like it is difficult. I feel our friendship is different. And I actually ended up saying to that friend, we may have to just get comfortable that our friendship is now like this because of your relationship. And we actually disagreed that and we did. And we just sort of said, OK, and you know what? She's she's in my life. We're not as close.

They're still together. At some point she may need me. And will I be there? Well, I guess it depends. She might have other people in her life at that point. But what I found was when I have been too like, not that I've ever really been too opinionated. I'm probably a bit soft in that way. I found that they know their partners are cheap. They know these

things. They're not in, they are in denial, but they are aware. So they've got to do it on their timeline and their journey gone. Yeah, you need to read the Mel Robbins book, Let Them. That is what you need to read. And I really think that obviously I've just said like how I would speak to somebody like that. And that is my natural thing would just be like, if they were asking me for advice,

that's the advice I would give. But if they didn't ask for my advice, I probably wouldn't say anything. And I think just leave them, it's their life. Let them screw it up. If they wanna do that, then you just have to let them do that. And then you choose whether or not you wanna be a friend

throughout that process. And if you can't sit back and watch that happen to your friend, which I completely understand why you might decide that you can't sit back and watch that happen to your friend, which I completely understand why you might decide that you can't, then that's okay. That's your boundary and you can take a step back. But I think that you do just have to let people make decisions for themselves. And you know what, like it'll be karmic,

it'll be a lesson that they're learning. So, you know, if you, you know, not everyone's a narcissist, it gets thrown around a lot. We might just have narcissistic traits. But, you know, he's, clearly this partner's not got a great track record. I think you can offer support and, you know, if they come to you and they say, like, I'm really unhappy, sorry, really unhappy, things are really difficult. Like maybe that's like, you know, with my friend, I was like, please just go and see my therapist, like work this out with

a therapist because like this is deep rooted stuff. And actually I'm worried that if you tell me everything, I'm going to really dislike them. And then in a month when you tell me you're back with them or whatever, it's going to be really hard for me. So like, that's kind of the way I've approached it. So it is tricky, but I've also been with someone who cheated and I knew he would cheat. And I kind of then was a little bit like, I didn't tell all my friends and things like that. And you know, because there was also loads of insecurities that I was working through. So I can relate to both sides. And I think that, you know, really is only down to your friend and it's going to get a bit messy, but usually it does in these situations. But it'll be solved and it'll be okay. And really just don't bring yourself too much pain

from it. You know? Yeah, I was going to say, try not to let your like, don't try to consume it too much because you've got your own life to be living girls. I think so, I was gonna say try not to let your like don't try to consume it too much because you've got your own Life to be living girls. I think so babes Okay, so next one I need some help with my complete lack of romance or love life Divorced six years ago and have avoided dating or being with anyone ever since. Now, quite honestly, I actually flinch if anyone I don't know in brackets who is male gets too close. This is not a good start for a healthy new relationship

and that's the issue. Because before this, they have never been positive or healthy. How do I attract and bring in healthy, sexy, gorgeous and happy relationship, likes of which I have never had before? And what advice can you both, in brackets, and spirit give me on this?

Thank you. Oh. Okay. And going from a very practical point of view there, you've said, how can I attract bringing this in for what you've never had before? If you want to attract something that you've never had before, then you have to put out something what you've never had before. If you wanna attract something that you've never had before, then you have to put out something

that you've never done before. So you have to act a different way. So whether that be the way that you see yourself. So I don't know, maybe, right, I'm just gonna go off on a little bit of a tangent here, but let's say that you maybe speak to yourself in a negative way, but then you're attracting people who are then speaking to you that way.

So be really, basically what I'm trying to say is love yourself the way that you want someone else to love you, and then, and that is what you will put out, and then that is what you will receive. So if you want somebody to buy you flowers, go buy yourself some flowers, and like look at those flowers and appreciate them and be like, oh my God, I love these flowers.

They bring me so much joy. And if you want somebody to be complimenting you on how you look or how you dress, compliment yourself every morning on how you look and how you dress and make yourself feel really, really good. And it will open up space for somebody to come in and do that.

Yeah. I just think you can't, yeah, I just feel like you can't, it's hard to put into words, but you can't really welcome, you can't love someone else, can you? What's that phrase? You can't love someone else unless you love yourself. But I think that you've got to kind of practice that

before you can welcome it in. Yeah, and also I'd say like how I'm sort of channeling the energy of this person, there's so much wounding from the masculine. So like it doesn't even have to be love. It can also just be trauma from, you know, parents or past lives and things like that. So I do feel like there is this sort of barrier that's been built with the masculine. You see this so often with women that when they go

through divorces or breakups or even like widowed women, you find that like there isn't this urge to like, or they don't find love maybe as quickly as maybe men do in that situation. Do you know what I mean? It's like we're quite, well, we're very powerful. We're very self-sufficient. We can bring a lot to our life.

And I think this person has actually probably become really independent and really self-sufficient. That's sort of the energy I feel. So like, you're kind of doing well and actually it's sort of then harder to bring someone in because if you've not had good experiences, it's gonna feel like they're making things feel not as good or whatever. So you've got to rewrite the story there. So the

ways that you can rewrite that story is really exploring your masculine and feminine energy. To do that is really, first of all, identifying which is which, which can be really hard. I can help you. I also think I've got some podcasts on that on Patreon. But if you can access your feminine more, which is more surrender flow, you will feel more comfortable because I actually think you're holding a lot of masculine energy. So that's why I can't come in. Sorry, I'm channeling. So I'm not getting my words fully clear right now. So you'll be fine. You just want to're gonna access that feminine a bit more. And I think control is a big part.

I also think you've needed these six years to heal. I think that you've been doing a lot of work, a lot of healing. You've really been in that place or focusing on yourself. So when Sam says about self-love, I could feel a response from you listening to this thinking, I have been doing that or I've tried that. And I think you have, but I think now it's about having fun. It's like playing with that self-worth. And I kind of feel like, you know, it's about

bringing joy back into your life in small things, because your life feels quite serious at the moment. Travel, you know, go and explore, maybe go somewhere new. I actually feel like you could move country. I don't know why, but you've got two cards that signal that. It might be just that you're ready for a new storyline now. So what I would say to you is exploring the feminine. There's a really good book called The Wild Woman's Way. Listen to it on audio more than reading it because it's phenomenal. I'd recommend this to anyone. She goes from orgasms to relationships to talking to spirit. She is my inspiration. She is phenomenal. So I would go and listen to it and it's by a woman called Michelle

Bowen. So if you need the recommendation, just send me a message. Listen to that. That's gonna help you. And I do think you might travel somewhere else or you might travel more, but don't be hard on yourself for these six years, actually you've needed it to recover. And you will attract someone good, you will.

You're doing the work. So yeah, so I'm gonna stop talking now. Look, look. Oh, I love that. Well, yeah, and let us know how you get on and how you do take the advice. I'd be laughing now if that person's like, oh my God, yeah, that was exactly what I thought

when you'd listened. Yeah, I don't know, it was just, it was coming through to me and I was thinking, I think, cause I think your point's so important, you know? And actually like, when I think about self-love, I've lacked self-worth most of my life until probably only recently. And I only feel like I'm starting to understand

what self-worth is. Where for you Sam, you have a lot of self-worth, something that I love about you and it's something that helps me, is it's very natural for you to have self-worth. Where for some women, it's very natural for you to have self-worth, where for some women it's so hard, you know, and it's such a journey. So it's so different in different ways, but you having it shows us it's possible and we need people like you. We really do. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's,

yeah, I suppose so. Yeah, we do. We need to see that it's possible because then it's an invitation. Like you, by you being so in your self-worth, it invites me to do the same. You know, and it's the same with my friend Risa. You're both very similar. You're who I go to for a lot of my advice because you both have a lot of self-worth. And I think, yes, I love that. I want more of that, you know?

No, that's nice. Yeah, no, I want that for everyone. I really do. Yeah. Well, I have loved this everyone, I really do. Yeah. Well, I have loved this episode. I'm going to bed. So. Yes. You go to bed, babe.

So I've got the rest of my day to go. You've done well, I'm impressed because, you know. I'll text you when I get up from my walk and you'll be selling down for the night. Yeah. Thank you so much, everybody, for listening. You may have seen that we have updated, I have finally updated our Instagram

that I'm happy with now. So please, please check it out. We are at SpirituallySpeaking.com underscore podcast and she is at Jessica Marie underscore holistic. I am at samanthagreen.tgh and please send us in your anonymous questions and topics you want us to chat about as well. I have just seen while we've been recording one has come in with a topic so yeah

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