Spiritually Speaking with Jessica & Samantha - Connecting with Ancestors & Spirit Guides

Episode Date: August 2, 2024

In this week's episode of Spiritually Speaking, Jess and Sam reunite for a lively catch-up session that spans continents and cultures. Join them for the first 20 minutes as Sam shares stories fro...m her vibrant social life back in the UK, filled with exciting events and memorable encounters. Meanwhile, Jess takes us on a journey through her travels in Vietnam, highlighting the rich experiences and adventures she's had along the way.After catching up, the conversation shifts to a more spiritual tone as Jess delves into her experiences with connecting to her ancestors and spirit guides. She explains the profound impact this connection has had on her life and shares insights into the practices and techniques she's used to establish and strengthen these spiritual bonds. Whether you're interested in the spiritual realm or simply curious about new perspectives, Jess's stories and advice offer inspiration and guidance for anyone looking to deepen their own spiritual journey.Tune in for an episode that blends the excitement of travel and social life with the enriching world of spiritual exploration.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome back to Spiritually Speaking with me Sam and with me Jess. I thought we were going to do a little bit of an acapella then. I just don't, I haven't got a singing voice babes, not for the public. I absolutely don't have a singing voice, but I literally sing all the time. I'm constantly singing now to the girls, but yeah, I fucking love singing. But yeah, definitely don't have a singing voice voice could you imagine being really good at singing I'd love to be able to sing I feel like what a talent yeah yeah I know it'd be so good it would yeah anyway how are you unfortunately that's not us I'm good babes I'm. I'm in Vietnam now so I arrived here Saturday or Sunday, Saturday
Starting point is 00:00:48 and post podcast I ended up having really bad tonsillitis. I was really poorly so I was forced into silence again and on reflection I think when I was doing the pod I was actually quite poorly I was like listening back and I can hear it really in my voice and then the next day I was like damn it I should have just slept but I've survived you know and I just surrendered to it and I just thought it was really fascinating that I was in silence. And then I don't know if I said, but I got like a rash on my neck at the monastery. I don't know if I said that. Oh no, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Yeah, like really bad, like really flared up, which I thought was interesting. And then literally as soon as I come out, I got tonsillitis. It was like I was just having all this throat action and just pushing me into silence. And I don't know if it's sanctified my throat chakra. It's just very interesting. And then to be honest, I haven't seen loads of Vietnam because I've been working. I sort of set myself up with a bit of a base for this week because it's been a busy diary. So that's been the main focus. I did go on a little boat trip on Monday which was cute oh how was that it was nice you like make a
Starting point is 00:02:14 wish and it's in Hoi An so like it's all on TikTok but I'll post some stories about it um and it's just a really nice vibe it's really cute and it was really lovely to sort of experience and understand more of like the Vietnamese culture I went on like a tour group so that's kind of my vibe now like wherever I go I just like book something a bit touristy where I can learn um and it was actually interesting because the tour guide was like oh so like in Vietnam like the majority of people don't follow a religion which I didn't know like I was quite surprised about that and he was like yeah we just love to go to fortune tellers and I was like mate I think I found my place no way that's so funny yeah um but he was saying that they worship their ancestors, which I love because I feel like that's all what I'm here for.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Yeah. So what we did is we went and saw some really old Vietnamese homes and they had like full-on shrines of their ancestors and pictures and jewellery, which makes me laugh because I basically carry a shrine of my relatives with me. Yes. Yeah, you said that before. You've got the thing with like your nanny's rings and stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Yeah. So like I've always like in my bedroom at my parents' house when I had my flat, like always had like elements of like my great granddad's like handkerchief, like my nan's ring. like I have all these different things and that people always laugh they're like oh god that's a bit depressing I'm like no it's like all their energy um so I think in a past life maybe I was Vietnamese because I like to you know have all all me relatives around me. And they talk to their relatives and make their wishes to their relatives in spirit,
Starting point is 00:04:08 which is definitely, like, I always talk to my nan, you know? Yeah, I do as well. I always talk to mine. Yeah. Yeah, always. Have you ever watched the film Mulan, the Disney film? Yeah. And she has all, it's literally one of my,
Starting point is 00:04:22 I honestly think it's my favourite Disney film. I absolutely love it. But she has all the relatives doesn't she they're like statues yeah same kind of thing oh that's so cute so I really like loved that because there was so much that I connected with with Thai culture with Buddhism and obviously Buddhism's just not it's not just Thailand um but it was nice to also feel that connection to like Vietnamese culture um and it made me laugh because my group I joined they were all like um a travel group and they're all from Delhi and when I like joked and was like oh like that's me this lady came over to me and she was like tell me will my son get married and like will he be yeah so funny and
Starting point is 00:05:06 the son was there and I was like he's fine just like he's looking at you like please just tell her what she needs to hear to get her off my case yeah I was like he'll be a good husband but let him just enjoy life he's working really hard she's like no he's lazy I was like so it's quite sweet um so yeah I had a really nice day and then other than that just being you know catching up on on clients which is brilliant but what I will say just a quick checking on the energy for anyone it's heavy right now not for everyone uh but lots of people in their sessions on Patreon have been messaging me saying they feel quite flat, they feel quite heavy and a bit more emotional. So if you're feeling like that, it's okay, firstly. And also there's
Starting point is 00:05:54 just some big shifts happening right now with the energy. We're kind of, like I felt it I felt a bit low I've been quite tearful um and I would say it's not going to be there forever um it's just sort of it's it's a new energy for us I won't go into too much detail from an astrological perspective but it's it's um unfamiliar and we'll be riding it out in the next week or so yeah yeah yeah it's just yeah a few people feeling it so anyway that's me you um samantha green slash social social i know i am you are just living your best life tell me what have you been up to um well i literally went out Saturday Sunday Monday this weekend um and yeah no we've I mean yeah we've just been really busy like it's been so nice like obviously being back seeing everyone going out loads um in all different ways like seeing people obviously like with kids who've
Starting point is 00:07:02 got the kids and then also seeing people um yeah in a more like social aspect without the kids so like on Saturday I went out with all my girls like from school and we have not been out together like a full attendance from everyone and like that nobody was pregnant as well um yes um so that was lovely that was really really nice and then we had such a good time um then on sunday i then went out for the day to sexy fish brunch in manchester which was amazing um was it a brunch yeah it was a brunch yeah so they had um it was champagne unlimited champagne for two hours and the food was amazing they had so much food and it's really funny because obviously coming from
Starting point is 00:07:52 Dubai like the brunches over there they'll last for like minimum three hours like you're looking at longer than that so at first um my friend was like oh yeah I think it's 90 minutes and I was like sorry what 90 minutes like how many champagnes you're gonna be able to drink in 90 minutes like it's surely not actually worth it you may as well just buy a bottle like I don't want to just like down my drink anyway it was two hours it was fine but um a lot of them are like that now I feel like they used to be two hours I think it's British drinking culture like I remember going to a brunch and um it was two hours and like there was a woman being sick there was another woman who like wet herself
Starting point is 00:08:31 oh this was like yeah it was really bad this was in a pub in Essex called The Crown in like Brentwood um it was chaos so I think that they're just like you lot like we I think you just want to get your money's worth yeah I think that's what it is and like even they were a bit weird because like they did two different champagne packages right they did a rose one and a normal one the rose one was cheaper because it wasn't as like good champagne or whatever it was probably like a second I don't know but I was like oh I'd quite fancy the rose one and my two friends I was with wanted the champagne one no no you can only do one package per table I was like what and I said look I'll pay for the champagne one if that's the case I'd just like to drink the rose one no no you can only do one package per table so then I was just like oh fine whatever I'll just do the champagne one with
Starting point is 00:09:20 them and then um my friend Jack was like nope nope we won't have that i was like oh god i'm like dying inside and that's normally the person that i am i'm normally the one who's like come on like this is ridiculous um yeah but anyway we managed to get that sorted so that was amazing had a great day out with them we ended up we went somewhere else afterwards had another bottle of champagne like honestly i know living our best lives and then cocktails after that so it was heavy then the day after that I went back out again um I met my friends from Dubai in Manchester which was lovely because this was one of my best friends who had her baby three weeks before me and um we actually realized we haven't been out together since we've had the kids as in the
Starting point is 00:10:06 four of us sorry so like yeah the two couples um because we used to go out all the time together um without kids that was lovely um so yeah I've just been busy busy really um love it babes weather has been so nice as well now has it yeah it's gone so nice and just makes such a difference, like being able to get out and go for walks and it's just been lovely. I've thoroughly enjoyed my time back here and I'll be honest, I'm already dreading
Starting point is 00:10:36 leaving. Oh, that's not a bad thing. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe it's not a bad thing, but I just want to live in the moment and enjoy it, but like when I see my mum and dad with the girls, it makes me really sad about leaving. So I just think, fuck, they're not going to see them for, like, such a long time.
Starting point is 00:10:52 But it is what it is. It's a decision that I've made to live abroad and put it this way. I'm not moving home. Yeah. It's all right. They'll be back out in no time. Yeah, exactly. I think, like, I've definitely felt that since I've said I haven't got kids but since
Starting point is 00:11:06 living overseas my relationship with my parents was always always good but like it's so lovely now like I feel like you're always like just making it so sacred do you know what I mean yeah I completely agree like we have such yeah and like I don't know if I can compare because I suppose I've never really lived at home and been a proper adult I'll be honest like because I left like I was like 23 when I moved to Dubai um and I'd never lived out of home when I um when I went to Dubai so I don't know what I would have been like had I been at home living here um but I know that by living abroad my relationship is so close with my family and like I speak to them all the time I'm constantly on the phone to them when I'm away
Starting point is 00:11:56 and like now when I come home like obviously we're staying with my parents it's pure quality time like with them and the girls like they're obviously seeing them all day every day um so yeah I don't know yeah I just I just do feel sad about it when I think about leaving and them not seeing them for such a long time but at the same time I know when I get back to being in Dubai I'm gonna love being there and I'm gonna be like oh god I'm not ready to leave here you know like I definitely don't want to move home. There's nothing in me that thinks about wanting to live back in the UK, I'll be honest.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Greenhouse 2.0 and then you're like, I'm going to move home. Yeah, could you imagine? The amount of people that were like, can you please open one in Manchester? I'm like, no, because then I'd have to live in Manchester. But yeah, so maybe one day, who knows who knows but for right now it's just not the not the bad I think that's the perks of Dubai life though or expat life when you can come home for the summer if you're in that sort of opportunity you know it's a good life girl and you've built that for yourself so just enjoy it yeah exactly exactly I'll just make make the most of it and then eventually at some point when, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:07 when the girls are old enough and I can actually fly with both of them on my own and if Andy is working, I can pop a bit back and forth a little bit more, like even if it's just like long weekends, I think. Yeah, definitely. I hear you. I hear you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:21 So that's kind of what I've been up to. What about the salon? How's things going there I'm sure yeah so it's finally moving along it felt like for a while it wasn't but I think you just forget how long like approvals and things like that take in Dubai so it whenever you're going to do any building work in Dubai um you obviously you acquire the space first and then it takes a good few weeks really to get um all of your approvals done your contractor has to do all of their drawings and everything gets sent off and then it gets approved um so that's finally happened now
Starting point is 00:13:56 so now we're in the process of actually doing stuff but it's meant that I have because the work has now started it's meant I've had to really finalize my actual plans for it which is quite yeah nerve-wracking a bit because I can't remember if I've said this before on here I feel like I've said it a million times to you but um I don't have a business partner I don't have an investor everything is on me so it's an incredible position to be in because it means I don't have to answer to anyone I don't have to get anyone else's approval for anything but it's also sometimes quite hard because I don't have anyone to bounce that off um yeah no definitely it's hard yeah and like obviously and again obviously it's all my money that I'm spending so I'm like very conscious about that as well
Starting point is 00:14:37 um but yeah it's good it's moving along I've had to make some decisions in terms of I'm wanting to put a little bit of color into the salon this time because I feel like there are a lot of beige in Dubai Dubai is beige there's a lot of beige and I love beige like my home is very neutral you know I I feel calm in a neutral space like I really that. But I also think it's nice to mix up a little bit, you know, let's, let's change the way it looks a little bit. I don't want it to look the same as every salon in Dubai.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And I want it to have a little bit more personality to it. So that's kind of what I am hoping to achieve with the next space. And we will be adding some new services oh um jay i know i don't you know what i'll speak about this on here i might not actually put it on instagram um but yeah we are definitely going to be adding some new beauty services maybe that needs a whole podcast in its own bloody light to be honest but um as an episode um in terms of the decision behind it um but that was a really hard thing to come around to I'll be honest it's a bit taken a lot of um a lot of work to make that decision um
Starting point is 00:16:00 I definitely saw your Taurus energy with that decision the stubbornness yeah like I don't see well I do see your Taurus but not like you don't see it often and as strongly as how it was coming up I could see it I could feel it and I was like oh okay I could feel about it and basically I have when I opened up the salon um when I first opened up the salon like the the original one um it was always like I just want to create somewhere that's amazing at hair that like has this like it's known for its hair it's not it doesn't it's not overly saturated in terms of all the services that it offers. And people are like, that's where I go to for my hair.
Starting point is 00:16:50 That's what I wanted to create. That's what I have created. And what I think has now happened, now that obviously I've got so much more space, it's like, okay, we've added way more hair still, but there's still more space so it was like well do I double that again but then that is an enormous hair salon and that's not what I'm trying to achieve I'm not trying to have like this huge conveyor belt of clients in a hair salon I'm
Starting point is 00:17:19 trying to create an experience how do I make that experience better for the client I ask the clients what it is that they want and they want beauty services and it was really difficult for me to um almost come to terms with I think because obviously that was quite against my vision that I had in mind and but what I really had to look into and what you obviously helped me look into is why was I against that and I think if I properly if I properly think about it I remember working in a salon when I was 19 ish I think something like that or 16 I was young anyway and um yeah yeah yeah like really quite young and I remember I wanted to train as a makeup artist and I remember my boss saying to me you can't be good at makeup and hair she was like you can't do both and people can only be good at one or the other and I was like right but I really want to do makeup anyway yeah after
Starting point is 00:18:19 I'd left there I think or maybe I did it while I was there I can't remember I trained to be a makeup artist and I did actually do hair and makeup for a really long time I did weddings I did photo shoots I did I did loads of things like that and I love being a makeup artist as well like don't get me wrong I definitely think my stronger side was hair but I really did love the makeup and you know I had I did loads of makeup so I was definitely good at it. But I think that probably was part of what maybe has always stuck in my head. Then I have worked in salons before that have offered hair and beauty. Somewhere it has worked better than others. I used to work at a salon in the UK.
Starting point is 00:19:01 They offered beauty, but it was very separate to the hair. And that worked really really well and then i've worked in a salon in dubai that offered a two actually all the salons to be fair that i've worked in in dubai have done hair and beauty um and it has worked it's not that it hasn't worked but it's just been very a little bit more chaotic i think you know like trying to organize people's appointments more because it's like oh well they're finishing the lashes at this time but then this needs to happen or you know all the toner needs to come off well I've not finished doing the nails and it's like that is quite difficult so I think I
Starting point is 00:19:32 just wanted to keep it as simple as possible um so yeah I think that's kind of where that was going but from a business perspective it just 100% makes sense it does it really does make sense to do do some beauty treatments and the clients wanted it and I think that's one of the best things that's definitely happened to me in the last six months from other than having kids is that I have removed myself a bit emotionally from the salon I don't think that's a bad thing. I don't think that's a bad thing. I really don't think that's a bad thing. I think that I was so emotionally attached to the salon and what I'd created.
Starting point is 00:20:11 And I can step back a little bit now and look at it from a different perspective and see it for what it is as a business and as what it is that clients want and that maybe what I want for it isn't always the best thing and also like what you wanted two years ago is different now and you still pride yourself on being a space that has incredible stylists and you are well known for hair and that still is the main sort of element of your brand yeah it's just
Starting point is 00:20:48 that you're adding on some parts to it now are you going to share the services or is that will that be later are you going to make more of an announcement for that let's wait let's wait let's keep people waiting let's keep people guessing everyone can guess like yeah I think you know what what you're you're planning is just more of a natural evolution of your business and it's really exciting and I think it's going to be great well I know it's going to be great so it's gonna yeah yeah exactly I think I think as well like I think again working in salons where maybe they've they've said that they're going to do X, Y and Z services or whatever, but it's always stayed the same. And I feel like actually maybe I didn't think that you could change that or it could evolve or it could change. And I think that it's nice to actually be like okay yeah we've tried that and it worked
Starting point is 00:21:45 really well but now we're going to do this or now we're going to change this up um I think maybe I wasn't as susceptible to change from a business perspective but now I really am like even when it comes to the staff as well and what we're looking for for them and the way that we work things with staff I've changed that up massively recently um so yeah no it's good the salon is progressing it's um it's doing really really well we've just had a new hairdresser start Hannah she's amazing she's fitting so perfectly and I just feel so happy for her because she's so happy there and that's been really really lovely um so yeah all is good it's really good and I think like you know
Starting point is 00:22:27 it's definitely been some resistance in your energy with working this out and resistance is what helps you grow and you know I think you could have just copy and pasted and that would have been fine but I feel like you know you are you're more than that in my opinion and I'm proud of you for working for your tourist energy and embracing the resistance and embracing the change so well done yes thanks oh well yeah that yeah I'm excited I'm excited a lot it's gonna happen soon it is and then there'll be all these updates of like even just like the interior design and all that stuff is so exciting yeah exactly yeah that's the part that I'm looking forward to getting back to Dubai for it's like
Starting point is 00:23:16 picking those bits yeah yeah that's a fun part yeah definitely babes definitely so today so you've actually come up with this one obviously because this is probably something that you would come up with not something that i would have thought you've come up with some good ones that are spiritual topics true true but this is like really spiritual like the spiritual that's like talking about crystals and things like that but then this i would say is way more but this is something that fascinates me massively and it's something that I have actually done myself a little bit and yeah I just think it's going to be good yeah I do too so it kind of came to me yesterday I was having my coffee I think it was yesterday or the day before. And I was like, I want to talk about spirit guides and I want to start sharing more of that side to my work
Starting point is 00:24:13 because it's like the core element to my work. And I'm working with so many of my clients, so I thought why not talk about it and share the info so um I guess when when it comes to spirit guides people probably like don't even know what that is about to say what is a spirit guide yeah so a spirit guide is a guide in spirit and so like it's basically just say it backwards and it doesn't it doesn't make it make sense the same thing no so what a spirit guide is it's an energy that is there in spirit so when i talk about in spirit that's like energy and universe okay heaven okay yeah it's you know like i will always talk to spirit so if i'm making a wish or I'm setting an intention
Starting point is 00:25:06 or I'm needing some help, I'm always like spirit, help me out. And it's kind of like this collective energy that I feel. Okay. And some people would do that to God, the universe, you know, everyone has their thing or they don't, but's spirit okay and it's always been that it's always naturally been there to be honest so then what you do is when you sort of well for me when I was developing my psychic abilities my psychic abilities were always there but then I was like I need to clean this up now and the first thing I got taught was to connect to my spirit guides. So what that is, is someone in spirit, in the spirit world, who works with you to help you do the spiritual work on earth.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Okay. So they can be in many forms. And, you know, the way that I connect to them is through meditation to start off with and then it kind of evolves. Does that help describe? Yeah, yeah. It does to me. It definitely does to me. Yeah, because like I say, I've kind of done a bit of work on this before, so I feel like I have a vague idea anyway but I think saying it as like you say like an energy or someone for example might have a name for them or they might have like a person that they think
Starting point is 00:26:30 of when they think of that um yeah he's good yes um yeah because when you think like what are they well like I started off with my nan so nanny Maisie was my spirit guide okay kind of like a guardian angel yeah really similar yes so I worked with her for quite a while and then I realized that she was tired and I remember her saying to me I love you but like I just need a break she's like I'm doing the work for you I know and I was like sorry babe she's like I've passed over just let me let me be yeah and actually on reflection when I think about my connection to my nanny Maisie like that was my mediumship just really strong because my nanny Maisie passed when I was three months old and my mum and dad were at the hospital yeah and my mum was holding
Starting point is 00:27:26 me in the hospital when my nan died so like I was around all of that and I always remember like mediums and psychics being like oh your nan's really close to you like were you really close with your nan and I was like well no because I't remember her, but I feel like I know her. That's always how I felt, like, with Nanny Met. Like, I don't even know what she sounds like because there's not really videos of her voice. So, like, I remember actually asking my dad not that long ago, like, what was her accent?
Starting point is 00:27:56 Because my dad's from Liverpool, but she grew up in Yorkshire. So, like, it was just all this stuff, like, coming up. Are you getting emotional? Oh, mate. so like it was just all this stuff like coming up are you getting emotional oh what's coming up for you have you been chatting to your nan it's just made me think that like for my girls that they might still have like some form of relationship with her of course they will I didn't expect to be upset then at all that's okay it's the energies it's all swirling I think I'm obviously still not fully processed it and I think when you just said that I just thought oh wow that's so beautiful to think that they might still feel
Starting point is 00:28:45 like they know her it was when you said you felt like you still knew her because I was really sad that she never got to meet them and like they never got to experience her um so yeah that just felt really nice to think that they'll still have that of course they are they're Scorpio moonshore girls they're like me they'll be talking to the dead all the time there's no stopping them like me just having full-blown conversations oh that's okay oh there's some here there we go right sorry carry on I was just chatting away and then all of a sudden looked at your eyes and I was like oh my god I just didn't expect that at all I think like you say I just all of a sudden just thought about them still having that I thought it's so beautiful of course they will
Starting point is 00:29:31 and they've got me around to help teach them so they'll be fine they'll you'll be teaching them all their languages yeah yeah I know so um so yes so obviously with my nanny Maisie I didn't know what she sounded like but then I could hear her voice in my head a lot and like as a kid I would talk to her um all the time like more for like help me out like when I used to play netball a lot so I was always like at netball trials so I'd always be like nanny Maisie help me like I remember like always asking her to like help Liverpool win football like I would always just be like I know like it was just random like always like for my advantage yeah which I've realized now like yeah yeah yeah I've been a balance but yeah so I feel like I just always worked with her um and I always felt her there I always felt like she was looking after me and she still does uh she doesn't leave my side
Starting point is 00:30:34 to be quite honest I feel like I'm gonna get emotional now I feel like the energy's hitting me but yeah like I just always feel her there and when I started doing my readings she was very very strong and it was like I'd been getting prepared by her um to do this work um and sort of when people describe my nan she sounds I'd say like we've got quite similar personalities like very like bubbly like very friendly very warm so like there was definitely like her energy I feel comes through me okay I know bless her so when I talk about her and I say she's right next to me it's not like I can see her like I can see like you with my eyes yeah yeah yeah it's it's different like you just really eyes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:25 It's different. Like you just really feel them. So you always just feel that they're close and you see them in your mind's eye and your mind's eye is like, so I always say to people, if you look like everyone listening now, look straight ahead of you.
Starting point is 00:31:41 If you're driving, be careful. You can close your eyes keep your eyes open and just like look around the room and just start like acknowledging what you can see and at the same time I want you to visualize like your childhood bedroom in your mind so what you're doing is you're using your eyes to see what's in front of you whatever that is and in your mind you can literally see the whole of your room maybe the bedding where the window is the flooring can you do that yeah so that's how you see spirit so I will be looking at you with my eyes and I can see spirit with my third eye, which is like looking at a memory.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Right. I think I get what you mean. Because you're. Yeah. Yeah, no, I think I do. Yeah. Like you're using two types of seeing there, eyeball seeing and third eye seeing. So there's like a combination so when I'm working a lot of
Starting point is 00:32:47 people always say how much my eyes go to the corners so like when I'm speaking I raise my eyes a lot and look to the side of people because I'll be getting all my visions and downloads yeah it's fascinating I know so that's how I see Nanny Mays bless her anyway so um so once she told me she was tired she was like babes I'm here for you but I'm more here as a protector not as your guide guide I realized that I needed to do some deeper work and then that deeper work helped me connect to my spirit guide who helps me with my work so Nanny Maisie's there for me yeah she is she's who I chat to in my darkest moments and my best moments and actually my dad my mum's dad he's become more of a guide in that way as well he passed a few years ago um and he shows up quite a lot now um so yeah sweet do you know what this
Starting point is 00:33:53 is going to sound a bit morbid but like the more people you lose the more power you get from spirit I even remember that like when my auntie passed away um like I can hear her voice so clear in my head sometimes. And she just gives me boosts of energy. So they all come in and give you different stuff. I think that's such a beautiful way of looking at it. Yeah, it does. And like I remember when my dad lost both his parents when he was quite young. And granddad Gil, he doesn't come in and get too involved,
Starting point is 00:34:28 but I feel like he's always there when I'm a bit heartbroken. So Nanny Maisie's there every day, then he comes in and I feel like it's just funny how they all play different roles just like they would... When they were here. Yeah. Yeah. Because you wouldn't go to them all for
Starting point is 00:34:46 one thing you might go for one for one and so yeah so it's it's really fascinating so like so that's kind of your spirit family there and they help you and you can absolutely lean on them and I always suggest to start with that so like if anyone was coming to work with me, we would definitely do some family and sisters and build that bond. So like with your nan, have a chat with her, you know. Yeah. And I know like it's a bit amosh, but allow yourself to go there, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:20 So then you kind of go into that deeper level of spirit guide. So this is where you start connecting to your past lives. Okay. So we are going to go a bit more deeper, but you know what, I think everyone's a bit more ready for the, the woo woo nitty gritty of the spiritual stuff. Now we've been, we've been getting there bit by bit. Go for it girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:44 So spirit guides tend to be not always and remember there's no rules to spirituality if anyone tells you there's rules they're a cult leader don't listen to them okay serious like there's no rules like you just gotta work out for yourself so i'm just sharing my experience of how it's worked for me or it'll be different for some people whatever so I have this lovely gorgeous man who is a sort of shamanic energy he feels more American Indian kind of Pocahontas vibes I don't know his name but I call him Shamany because he's shamanic like he's fine with that but I connected to him in my meditations and he was really clear he was really visual like I could see him very very easily if you've got a question no no I'm just thinking about it yeah yeah this is where I start to sound a bit crazy that's all right um but do you know what it's all right
Starting point is 00:36:46 I'm just gonna drop the witch wound and surrender yeah also I kind of think I get that you're saying that people might think that it sounds a bit crazy because obviously they've never experienced anything like that and I kind of think if you were to maybe drop your guard a little bit accept or try do you know what I mean I think people will be quite different um but also if you're listening to this and you're obviously interested so who gives a shit true babes thank you I just think the wounding of the witch like is there for me yeah I guess I've had to work through with the podcast is we'll do another episode on that is the witch wound that like there's judgment because of what I do and all that so anyway that's for another episode um so um I went to a circle um with a group of women who were all about 80 they were very wise wise women and they helped me connect to my spirit guide so I feel like I've
Starting point is 00:37:42 been very fortunate in my journey of development but they always seem to bring a huddle of women around me have the same in Dubai as well they're not all that old though they're all younger and beautiful not that the older ladies weren't they were just a bit more you know different but yeah so their advice to me was you you can only do this if you 100% trust so like you've got to go without the ego drop the judgment and just surrender and I was like okay cool and that's where he arrived and he helps me so much with my work he looks after my energy and he passes on the messages so I go to my spirit guide and when I start working before I open up for my readings or my coaching I have a chat with him so he's like he's like a member of the team I'd say he's the boss actually like he's he decides how they come in who I work with the energy and everything like
Starting point is 00:38:46 that okay um and the way that we work together is we've had it's like translation of a language it took time so he shows me lots of images of things so when I'm reading for people and they go oh my god Jess you've described my mother-in-law down to a t yeah I'm I'm not seeing their mother-in-law I'm seeing someone else who has an energy that I know who was in my life um and he puts that person in front of me and then I say yeah and I say okay let me describe the energy I'm getting for mother-in-law she's xyz and they're like yes so it's not that you're seeing their mother-in-law you're seeing that relation to you it's the same like if I experience like someone who's member of spirit is like an alcoholic they'll show me someone who's an alcoholic that I know who's maybe got those traits so like what happens it's like he's giving me flashcards and he shows me the images
Starting point is 00:40:02 to help me and you build that language with them. So you end up becoming very sort of close with this energy and start building the language. It's quite cool, isn't it? Yeah, really cool. I'm honestly fascinated. Yeah. And then, like, you know, sometimes you get it wrong
Starting point is 00:40:24 or sometimes you get future images and people can't relate and that's fine it is what it is uh they usually do six months later and i get the message um but you know it took time to build my bond with him um to understand how he was communicating with me so like the images and stuff like that and another thing he used to do and this was a big part of this was more in the UK I don't really do this work anymore I don't enjoy it I used to do a lot of mediumship back in the early days of of business I remember now my main yeah and it's it drains it takes everything out of you. And I don't think that's my purpose. I think I'm good at it, but I don't think it's how I'm here to help people.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And I used to feel how people pass. I used to feel like heartache or stomach problems. And it was really hard on me. So then I had to say to him, can you stop showing me? Can you just tell me? So then I started to hear it. So then I had to say to him can you stop showing me can you just tell me so then I start to hear it so then I'd hear like heart or like tummy like and he would tell me so you kind of build this relationship yeah yeah so um so that was really interesting um and yeah he's with me all the time um and then once I did further work so I do a lot of past life work with my clients and we do a lot of soul work and that's more where I'm at now with my
Starting point is 00:41:54 my spirituality I feel more focused on what's going on in this life and the karma we have and the shit we have and what we need to do to make it better so that our soul is progressing that that connects with me and um yeah so we went and did like this really deep big meditation and we were past life so he came through we had a daughter together he was like sort of we lived in like a crater that's the only way I can describe it so it was like this massive like canyon sort of crater there was no greenery it was like just stone and there was like a like a community or like a group like a tribe that's probably the better word to use and um yeah he was my man and he was my lover and he was like it was really nice um and I I was like a healer he was more I'd say the leader of
Starting point is 00:42:58 the group and I would just look after everyone on a spiritual level and it was beautiful and this meditation showed me that we were such a team. And then that's how it then comes through in this life as my spirit guide. So he's great. He's very protective of me. He's got a really strong energy. So he really looks after my energy. So if someone's not good, he'll tell me.
Starting point is 00:43:23 When I say not good, it's not that they're a bad person but they could take my energy so it's that kind of protector so yeah it's very fascinating um there are other guides that I have okay I won't I won't say he's my favorite but he's like the original like one and the one that I'd say is just always there some come and go yeah that's what I mean and he's kind of uh sorry would you say that everybody then has one yeah yeah so everyone has one everyone can connect to one um and it's um it's a process you know it won't just happen straight away it takes people time but yet everyone has a guide absolutely and the way that you would connect to them usually is through meditation that's the way that I started and then they just become part of
Starting point is 00:44:20 your energy yeah I've definitely had it where so I read this book once um super attractive oh yeah yeah Bernstein um yeah and that was really good and to be honest I probably find it even more beneficial and interesting now reading it now than I did actually even then but when I actually funnily enough actually now that I think back to this time when I was reading it it was when I really wanted to open up a salon and I was really at a crossroads on not knowing what to do and I remember after reading it being like right I just need to ask I need to just ask for some signs like you know what do I do and um a couple of things that happened so on one occasion I would very much kind of every night to be fair when I'll go to bed I'll literally just sit my eyes closed for a bit and I'll almost
Starting point is 00:45:10 meditate to a certain extent I don't particularly think I'm very good at meditating because my mind is a million miles an hour it's something that I really need to work at but it's something that I will try you know and I'll like I'll visualize and I'll just kind of you know whatever that'll be my way of like relaxing to then go to sleep and I remember um just being so conflicted with starting an online business or opening a salon and I was like I don't know which one I want to um and I had said if I um if I meant to open up a salon for example I think it was um please show me like orange roses right and if I meant to and I thought really random like I wanted it to be random because I was like I wanted to be something that I'm so it's so obvious that that was the case you know
Starting point is 00:45:59 like that the orange and if I meant to open up did I say about a salon for that one yeah yeah so say if I'm meant to open up a salon orange roses if I'm meant to start an online business then um like white flowers or something like that anyway I'd I'd done that and then I kind of forgotten about it and then I'd a couple of days later I was in work and one of my clients who I've seen for a really really long time um and a lot of clients in Dubai are extremely generous and you know will often be like buy you a coffee or you know do little gestures because it is quite easy to do it in Dubai as well like we have like delivery and stuff for everything and um they are generally very generous people people have more disposable income whatever anyway the the reason why I'm saying that is this particular client wasn't the they are generally very generous people. People have more disposable income, whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Anyway, the reason why I'm saying that is this particular client wasn't the type of client who has ever done anything like that before, ever. She wouldn't tip. She wouldn't do anything like that. Not that it was, it didn't matter, but it was just a point that it was this particular client that did it.
Starting point is 00:47:00 After I did her hair, she sent me orange roses. Oh my goodness. I could not believe it. I was honestly gobsmacked and she'd sent flowers to me and the girl who did her nails. And the girl who did her nails is one of my like really, really good friends. She sent her the white roses and mine were the orange ones. And I was like, how weird is that? Like I could not get my head around it. Then I kept seeing white ones as
Starting point is 00:47:25 well and I was like why do I keep seeing both this is so confusing like what am I supposed to do and it was just the weirdest sign that I'd obviously asked for and then I got but it was real confirmation that that does happen you know that I do need to continue doing that and that you can really get shown the right direction. And I'd even had it where, um, I remember again, going to bed one night and being like, what do I do? Am I supposed to be open up a business? Like, cause I was so worried about doing it. And in the very, very early days of the greenhouse, before the greenhouse was the greenhouse, I was going to open up a salon with, with um one of my friends and we were going to do it together and we're still really good friends now we both decided to do it separately in the end
Starting point is 00:48:09 and um I remember being like what do I do I don't know what to do and I had this dream and oh my god it was the most lifelike dream I've ever had in my entire life and it was my granddad and it sounds a little bit morbid because he was like I think he's pretty sure he's dying but it wasn't morbid and he kept saying to me he was like looking at me in the eye and he was like you need to do this do not give up you need to do this like whatever happens don't give up keep going keep going keep going and I was like right okay and like he'd also said something else like to ask me to pass a message on to my mum and I then forgot about it to be very honest which is awful but then I'd woken up and I thought about it I forgot I hadn't passed this message on and then
Starting point is 00:48:57 at the end of the day I was like oh crap right I'll ring my mum and I'll tell her and when I told her my mum went it's really weird that you've just said that and I said why and she said his song's just been playing on the radio oh and his song wasn't a song that was current it wasn't a song that would ever normally play on the radio but it had been playing on the radio and then I told her that and I thought oh wow that's so weird but that's how they connect to us and they do so much like I'm actually I've got something at the moment and it's making me feel all emotional because I keep seeing rainbows at the moment and I literally have got a rainbow reflection for some reason on my tv screen right now to the side of me I'm
Starting point is 00:49:37 going to just take a picture and my granddad gives me rainbows and um so the reason I know it's my great like he's his energy's right there because when my granddad passed he him and my nan had a bungalow my nan was in the nursing home and was getting rid of the like selling the bungalow and I was with my mom and I said should we just drive and my dad and I was like should we just go and see the bungalow? And as we drove past, there was an, I'm not even joking, a rainbow going into the garden. Like I've never seen anything like that. The end of the rainbow, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:15 And then we went for fish and chips and out at the distance at sea was a type, like right on, like as far out, a tiny like bit of a rainbow. It was really bizarre um and then the other day I I was I was quite upset I was like just lots of things were going on I just felt really emotional and this rainbow appeared and it was like a double rainbow and I was just like I don't know it just I just knew it was him and honest to god I'm staring and I can see it as clear as day this rainbow on my side I don't know where this reflection's coming from it's very bizarre um but you get these signs and I just yeah I feel like I can really feel him around me so
Starting point is 00:50:56 hello granddad um so yeah blessing yeah I do I do really um really like think it's it's fascinating and I think when you can really like you've said before drop your guard and kind of just really immerse yourself in it you know and enjoy it as well because like for me that's something that has guided me through life adult life massively is asking for those signs and being given them you know I will literally be like please bring me like a hairdresser for example who's perfect for my team and like who aligns to the business that type of thing and it literally will come yeah long after and I'm like wow and they they do they have got your back like one thing I'd say they're not here to make life difficult um we make life difficult yeah so like they really want to
Starting point is 00:51:52 help us and look after us and and like there's only so much they can do like they can do a lot but we've got to do the work and we've got the energy out there but yeah they're very strong and obviously like this is kind of more the ancestors energy that's coming up right now and ancestors are a big part of who we are and there's karmic ties to our loved ones and even people that we don't love we can have a lot of karmic ties to them as well but you know there are ways to connect. And I think for a lot of people, they'll resonate through signs. So like a lot of people will have angel numbers and all that stuff. It's all there.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Like you've just got to find your language. So a bit like me with the mother-in-law, find your translation, like start playing and ask them to show you things. I get, you know, a lot of people have this but white feathers um but I find feathers can sometimes be not necessarily a warning but like a bit of like we've got you so it's not always validation of feather it's more we're here it's okay and I'm like okay cool so you know everyone has like different ways that they connect they definitely do yeah and music like music comes on a lot um so massive for me did i say have i said this before about when i was on the plane so my granddad that i was just talking about i was
Starting point is 00:53:18 really close to him and he died pretty much as i got to dub Dubai not long after um and we were really close and he was obsessed with um the A380 the Emirates plane and he always wanted to fly on the Emirates plane and he never did and um I was in Dubai and I was leaving Dubai going home or wherever I was going I can't remember and I got on the plane and um his he has two songs one song that he played at his funeral another song that really reminds me of him and this song was playing um when I got on the plane and I was like oh this is strange I've never noticed this before and then I looked down on my phone and um when I was a child my gran and granddad used to put like 20 pound in a premium bond for us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Like at like a Christmas and birthday. And I'd forgotten all about these like premium bonds. And it came up on my phone, the app opened. I didn't even know I had the app, I don't think. The app just opened on my phone when I opened my phone. And I was like, that's really weird. So that app opened and then this song was playing. And and I was like that's really weird so that app opened and then this song was playing and I was like that's really strange then when I flew home the other song played on the plane and my email popped up and said premium bonds you've won on your premium bonds oh amazing I was hoping you're gonna win some money yeah yeah and um I couldn't believe it I thought how strange is that but it was so lovely and for me it definitely music is a really big I would say part in that in the signs and one of my friends
Starting point is 00:54:54 her mum passed away and for her it was white butterflies um yeah and then her sister got married maybe I think it was less than a year after her mum passed away. And there was white butterflies on the wedding day. She couldn't believe it. They were everywhere. And I just thought, oh, that's so special. It's so lovely. I'm laughing because I, so I have a story, but it's not as lovely, but it's actually quite funny.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And my uncle listens to this and uncle lee this is about nanny irene so obviously it's never gonna be like simple because she just loves a bit of drama um and she actually passed the day i flew to dubai i remember this story it's so good it was my time to shine and she thought no she ain't having it um and i knew it was me and my mum both said it's's going to happen. We know it's going to happen. And I think about half an hour before we left the airport, we got the phone call. But anyway, she came through to me in a dream.
Starting point is 00:55:53 And I don't even know if I've said this to my uncle actually. And she came through as like this china doll on a shelf with her face on it. And she thought it'd be funny to scare me and she just was like haha I can do these things now and that'd just be a sort of thing she would do oh my god and it freaked me out like I sat up and I was like and I thought why can't you just be like hello darling I love you it had to be like something theatrical but honest to god it was a shelf and you know like the frilly hats and the frilly dress yeah it was her face and it was very I just feel like she was enjoying that so yeah bless her um
Starting point is 00:56:40 but I also had a really interesting experience this is more of a spirit guide on earth, which is a different sort of dynamic. So this was about probably early days of Dubai. And I had this dream and I was in a taxi. So spirit do like to come through in dreams and give us messages. But this lady in the dream, she was driving a taxi, but she was on the English side of the taxi. She had very red hair, very white skin, and the car was full of, like, beads and, like, dream catchers. And it was, like, hard to even look out the window because, likeā€¦
Starting point is 00:57:20 Right, there was so much stuff. Yeah. And I was going through, like through like you know like the Atlantis bridge like the tunnel yeah like and I wanted to get out and pay for the taxi and I was with a guy that I was dating at the time and I had got I had got a bit tearful about him because there was just a few things that were bothering me and as I got out the taxi she turned around and she said to me darling stop wasting tears over this man and don't you dare pay for anything more like and it was so clear how posh her voice was I saw her face I wrote in my
Starting point is 00:57:53 journal I said to my mum who's this lady like she's got to be like in spirit anyway like it baffled me and it really like it consumed me because it was yeah yeah anyway basically a few months later I um was invited to an event and they said oh we've got this this um tarot reader from Egypt and do you want to come along I think it'd be your cup of tea and I was like no I'm actually all right like I'm I feel like I know a, not like I know a lot about tarot, but I don't know if I'm drawn to it. And then the day before I was like, no, I need to go. I need to be there.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Anyway, I got there. So I'm expecting an Egyptian lady. And literally this lady sitting on the floor, red hair, white face, and was like, hello, darling. And I just was like, and I was like that's her and she was real she was a human um and um you're right it's your audio okay and my audio just went really loud oh literally it just like started screaming down my ears I was like how what's that maybe it was spirit it must have been because that was a
Starting point is 00:59:05 bit weird honestly I've not priced anything I've not moved and my volume just shot up what the fuck how's that happened now I'm not even laughing that's weird how's that just just ask just ask him to go away just say leave, leave me alone. No, Jess. How has that just happened? I didn't hear anything. What happened? My volume just shot up, but it wasn't like, I physically can't press anything.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I've got earphones in. I've got my mic in front of me. My volume just went. Oh, don't worry. It's just them giving you validation so just say thank you but don't scare me okay thanks but don't scare me thank you they're just like thanks girls but yeah because if it was me I'd just be like all right they needed it to be you because you'll actually respond sometimes I get so like used to it. But anyway, back to the lady. Sorry, yes.
Starting point is 01:00:08 And then she came up to me and she was like, I'm so drawn to you. And I was like, babes, me too. She was an older lady. She was sort of in her 80s, was a Notting Hill lady, but lived in Egypt. Incredibly inspiring and really looked up to her and she was like darling I just need to tell you that you need to stop loving men more than they love you and it was the way she gave the advice was just like the taxi and I was like thanks I know I'm trying to work
Starting point is 01:00:38 that out I'm a Pisces I've got a lot of love to give um but but she did say to me she's like you've you've got all good karma around you and you're just she was like I just really like you and I just needed to tell you that and then I told her about my dream and it was just mind-blowing because she was very significant and she was definitely a guide but she wasn't on the other side she was here on earth so it could happen in so many different ways and you just have to enjoy it and laugh even with the volumes you know yeah they're just playing you're like for fuck's sake you'll be staging the whole house literally don't worry I've got the rainbow just shining on the tv um but like in all seriousness I think just sort of um just enjoy meditating enjoy your dreams
Starting point is 01:01:36 enjoy the signs um and just ask for protection and if Sam, you get a bit scared, just say, go away. Just leave me alone. You know? Yeah. As simple as that. It doesn't need to be. It's not complicated. I'd be more scared of people on the streets, to be quite honest with you.
Starting point is 01:01:58 God, yeah, I would. Very true. Well, that was fun. I'm trying to think if there's anything else. But, you know, we're just going to keep delving into this stuff very true um well that was fun I'm trying to think if there's anything else I think that's the but you know we're just going to keep delving into this stuff because it's all coming up for me now and I'm liking it I've just had to work through some stuff uh on sharing yeah I'm getting there 100 percent um no I completely get that I do but i think it's amazing i've thoroughly enjoyed this i've enjoyed it i've loved it i'm excited for your feedback so yeah let us i mean i'm sure
Starting point is 01:02:30 we're going to wrap this up now but let us genuinely let us know please how you enjoyed that episode because if this is something more that you want to hear about then yeah we want to discuss it so we've enjoyed it so i hope you have too absolutely my girl well should we do the usual absolutely um thank you so much for listening to this week of spiritually speaking with me sam with jess um we will be here again next week we are more regular now back to being on our normal schedule with um records which is good and if you want to be an absolute babe then do all the good stuff like rate subscribe tell a friend if you want to find us on instagram i am at her by samantha green she is at jessica marie
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