Spiritually Speaking with Jessica & Samantha - Holiday Highs, Sickness Lows & Full Moon Feels
Episode Date: April 11, 2025In this week’s episode, Jess and Sam are back from their much-needed breaks and dive into a heartfelt catch-up. Sam shares stories from her wholesome staycation and her very first holiday with the t...wins, while Jess brings tales from her adventurous trip through the Philippines, complete with travel highs, a cheeky holiday romance, and a few bad belly moments and sickness bugs.Naturally, both were taken down by bugs, Sam survived the sickness bug from the twins, Jess had a dodgy tummy, and we share our stories (be prepared!). It’s not glamorous, but it’s real.The pair reflect on the beauty of taking space, the realities of parenting on holiday, and the occasional chaos that comes with Jess’s adventures. Jess also shares her mystical insights into the upcoming Libra Full Moon, how it’s shining a light on relationships, balance, emotional truth, and stirring up some Witch Wound energy.The episode wraps with juicy listener confessions and reflections:💌 Feeling behind in life compared to friends💌 Comparing relationships and timelines💌 Navigating uncertainty when everyone else seems to have it “together”Whether you’re catching flights, feelings, or just trying to catch your breath – this one’s a vibe.
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Hello and welcome to... no? Wait, welcome back?
Yeah, you can go!
Welcome back, let's just keep that in.
There we go.
Spiritually speaking, we have the giggles and normally we chat to each other before
we start recording but today we have gone straight in so you will get a very raw catch
up from the both of us. I am Sam and she is Jess and here we are. Here we go. Hello. We
haven't done a terrible intro in a while so that's nice. Keeping it real. Yeah, thanks
for that. And we haven't actually spoken because we've both been on holiday so
it's like this is a good little... A proper catch up. Because we do speak most days I'd say.
Mmm yeah, no we do. We do have do speak most days, I'd say.
Yeah, no, we do. We do have quite a good understanding
of what's going on in each other's life, like all the time.
We do, we do, you're right.
Not really spoke much is crazy.
And I woke up really excited to do the podcast
for that reason, because I was like, catch up.
So yeah.
So I didn't wake up as excited
because I woke up with a baby in my room.
Oh, what's going on?
You know what?
I feel like when we last, I was thinking when I sat down to record today, when we last recorded,
it was when the sickness bug thing had just started in my house.
And I was like, oh, that's all going on.
Now I've got bloody a kid that's teething at the back.
So your back, your back teeth when they come through
are the worst ones.
So Rivers already had her bottom back ones
which was not enjoyable at all when they came through
and now the top back ones are coming through.
Oh my Lord, it's not fun.
So yes, she was in our room last night.
But that sickness bug guys, wow.
Did you get it as well in the end, didn't you?
Did I?
Oh my God, I have never been so close
to shitting myself in my entire life.
Honestly, it was bad.
So basically, Blake got it, then River got it,
then Andy got it.
And me being the terrible wife that I am,
I do not give sympathy easily.
I just, it's just, I mean, mom, it's your fault
because you were the same.
It's just in my blood and my DNA
that I'm just not very sympathetic.
And I try, I really do try, but I just, I'm just not.
And when Andy said that he'd got it, I was like,
you know, you do have a bit of a weak stomach. Like, yeah, I was, you know, you do have a bit of a weak stomach.
Like, yeah, I was a bit like,
you've got a bit of a weak stomach
and you seeing them be sick would probably make you be sick.
So like, that was my rationale of it.
And then all of a sudden I went out,
I went on a boat for the day because my friend was over.
And that night I like woke up in the
night and I was like oh no I really don't feel great and threw up now I
really am NOT a sick person like like as in physically sick and vomiting and
sorry to your sister who like hates talking about sick. Anyway woke up, threw up and was like, whoa, no,
I've definitely got their sickness bug.
So then I think I was bad maybe the other way,
can't really remember now,
but then maybe like a day later or something,
my friend also had got it that was here on holiday,
I'd given it to him, all the babies had given it to him.
Then we met up and we went for Nando's
just down the road from where I live so we could walk to it. So I was like, okay, that's fine. So we went to Nando's and I just got a plain butterfly chicken and chips, that was it.
And I didn't really eat much of it.
I just like grazed at it a little bit.
On that walk back, I was like to keep stopping and like,
it was bad.
And all I kept thinking in my head was if I like
poo my pants now, I'm gonna go to the bathroom.
I'm gonna go to the bathroom. I'm gonna go to the bathroom. I was like to keep stopping and like, oh Sam.
It was bad and all I kept thinking in my head was
if I like poo my pants now while I'm walking
and he can't even come and get me
because the girls are asleep,
like what's gonna happen?
I'm gonna taxi.
Yeah and I thought I can't run home
because if I run then there's definitely no stopping this.
Yeah.
So I just had to keep walking home and just hold my breath.
I got home and honestly, it was like Niagara Falls.
It was disgusting.
And it was like that for a long time.
Honestly, it's so bad.
So TMI.
It was so bad.
And I lost 2kg.
Well, there we go.
You know what?
It started my fitness journey and it felt great ever since.
I won't lie.
Sometimes we need a kickstart.
I also have an-
I know it's not positive.
No, but I also had an embarrassing story.
Oh, go on.
So, I can't even remember if I told you this, but when I was in Kosomuwe, so basically to
the listeners, I had like a holiday romance while in Kosomuwe.
I met this lovely gentleman in the sauna and then we had a bit of fun.
And on the last day, not in the sauna, no, not in the sauna.
I had to check out of my place.
So I took my stuff to his and I started to get like a little bit of a bad belly. So I was like, okay, like
just sort of, you know, I don't think I needed to poo, but you know, when you can feel the
rumble starting. Oh, and the rumble. Yeah. And he made me laugh and I just farted. And
like we both just stared at each other. Was it like a loud one? Like a sharp?
It took me by surprise and he just stared at me and I just grabbed my bum and I was
like I just farted.
He's like I know.
Yeah and he was like you could have got away with that. And then it gets worse.
Oh my god, this is so funny.
So then we're leaving his place.
The car's coming to get me.
So I've got my airport outfit on, which is always like trousers and a shirt.
Not like a full-wear.
We just dress for an upgrade all the time even here on Ryanair.
Business casual.
Briefcase.
I did look kind of like slightly business casual with these trousers.
And then I bent down to pick up my suitcase and my trousers just ripped.
Like completely ripped. But I was on my period. No. And I had my really big period knickers
from Marks and Spitz. What color were they?
They were black, but like they were big.
Like, so then-
Yeah, we've all got them.
Like when you're in your period,
you need like Bridget Jones sneakers, 100%.
I felt like Bridget Jones in all honesty, this whole like,
and then as I was leaving,
he messaged me saying,
I can still smell you.
Oh, and I was like, it wasn't that bad.
But then I got to the airport and I had the shits.
So I was like, I actually have a bad belly.
And he just said, next time you mark your territory, can you do it in a different way?
Oh, that's, at least he's quite, sounds quite funny to me.
It was very funny.
And we both like proper giggled,
but I was like, oh my God, this is really embarrassing.
So I must've been coming out in sympathy of your diarrhoea
when I had diarrhoea.
That must've been what it was.
But it has to happen with someone that like,
I hardly know that I've just been having a bit of fun with
in close memories.
Oh, I mean, that's the worst because like,
I can remember like when we, I mean, fair enough,
we were young, me and Andy, when we first got together.
So when you're young, you're even more just immature
and you're just a bit like, oh no, I don't wanna poo
in the room, when you go to the toilet,
if they're in the next room or whatever, stuff like that.
But after we'd had the girls, all dignity went
out the window.
Literally, I can remember,
I think Andy had to full on change pads
and stuff like that for me.
It was so bad.
Just got on.
Yeah, I mean, I feel like we're really TMIing it up today.
But anyway.
I actually have a bit of advice
for anyone who is newly with a man,
because obviously dating, you have,
you know, dating in your 30s, right? You have more like your body, if you need to fart,
you've got to fart. Like when you're 20, you can hold it in. But I generally feel like
now if I hold it in, like it's just not good. And so the little hack is lay on your side,
pull your bum cheek and let it come out as a silent fart.
It may smell, but they won't hear it.
Try it.
Interesting.
I'll give it a go.
I'll let you know.
So yeah, it's a good life hack there.
And if you're not in bed, then what are you doing?
Even pull your bum cheek in the toilet.
So like, you know when you you're in like, they've
got an en suite and you're thinking, Oh my God, like, you know, when you wait and sometimes
a fart comes out and it's just like, just a little embarrassing. Sometimes it's not
a little one. It can be like, so you just, you just pull your bum cheeks. So then it
can come out without it being forced and then
it won't make a noise. So please ladies, let me know how you get on with your farting.
But you know, it's normal. But yeah, what I was going to say was at the end of that sickness book
and he was like, I've had a solid poo. And I was like, he was like, this is going to be you in a day.
And then a day later, I was like, I've had one. Oh, well done.
There we go.
Solid poos are very good.
Yes.
I haven't, I haven't, sorry to keep talking about poo,
but I haven't had a solid poo for a little while
in the Philippines.
Oh.
So like my tummy's been,
that has actually been quite good for me
because I feel like I've just not eaten as much,
like because I'm a bit, a bit nervous.
Oh, that's a shame. Yeah. So my tummy was getting good.
So how long are you still in the Philippines till? So this weekend?
So yeah, literally Saturday. So this comes out on the Friday and then I fly Saturday
back to Thailand. Oh, that'll be nice.
Yeah. It's been good here. I feel really like I've had the best time, but I'm ready to like,
I felt like I'm, I can't get my words out today. I've been with clients today and I
feel like my words are jumbling, so sorry. I feel like I haven't been homesick, but I've
missed home comforts. Like there doesn't, there's not that yet. Because in Thailand,
I can get like a sourdough loaf of bread
and have some toast and butter
and feel like I've had a bit of a comfort.
Yeah.
Where here it's just not the case.
Yeah.
It's just a little bit, yeah, different in the food,
the food department.
What day is it today, Wednesday?
Is it Wednesday?
Is it Thursday?
No, it's Thursday, we're recording.
Thursday.
So you've got a few days?
A few more days. I'm basically working now for the rest of it.
So I've booked some bougie result
with a golf course,
which is my view right now.
Because I was hoping it'd be good
Wi-Fi. It's a little bit dodgy, the Wi-Fi,
but I think we're all right.
But it's the best option.
So yeah.
How was your trip with your friend?
It was so good. So we have had the best time. So I went with my friend Chloe, Chloe does listen,
so shout out to Chloe. Me and Chloe live together. So in Dubai, when we first moved there, so we
know each other well. Like we've seen it all, the ups, the downs, the shits, whatever. We know. So
it was just really nice to travel with her because obviously we know each other. And
what did we do? We did so much. Like as mad.
You did loads. Yeah. So we did, um, swam with whale sharks.
That was really cool.
Um, we swam with sardines.
I was, I was a bit shook by this, right?
Cause I always think of sardines, like tinned sardines on toast.
Yeah.
Um, but Philippines, they've got a lot of sardines.
Um, and you, there's a, I dunno, it's on my reel, there's a video of me swimming quite
deep in all the fish move.
That's sardines.
Oh wow.
And it was really cool.
Like there was like thousands of them, like hundreds of thousands of them.
Wow.
Yeah.
So that was really cool.
And then we swam with like the turtles.
But what's nice here is it's not too like built up with tourism yet.
Obviously it is a little bit, but not that much. So like, there's not too like built up with tourism yet. Obviously it is
a little bit, but not that much. So like, there's not all these people around you. You're
actually just in the moment, you know, with the sardines.
In nature.
Yeah. And then we did this thing called canyoneering. So like you jump off like the waterfalls and
all that. That was good. I'm just so clumsy, Sam.
Like, I just feel like these things pushed me.
Yeah, they'd pushed me to be fair.
I went traveling when I was like 19
and I did stuff like what you're doing,
but I couldn't do it now.
I've like got, I'm too, I think I'm too scared now.
I also think being a mom,
like I've seen it with a lot of people when they become mums that
they're less into adrenaline because you've got a bit more responsibility.
Yeah, true.
Yeah, you've got us, but yeah, that makes sense.
But I also, I was such a wimp.
The reason I've actually pushed myself with these things was when I moved to Dubai, I
went to RAC and did the longest zip line in the world. I was an absolute wreck.
Really?
Honestly. And after that, I was like, I need to continue to push myself or I'm just going
to lose it. And obviously through my travels, I've done quite a lot, but I feel like I'm
getting better with my fear of heights
because I did the zip line, I did a prayer, I did think, is health and safety good here?
I'm alive, so it must be all right. But I've been pushing myself with that because I did
Tough Mudder not that long ago, maybe like two years ago.
And we had to climb like this ramp and I got to the top and I had like pretty much a panic
attack.
Oh no, what if I couldn't get down?
I couldn't get down like I was crying, like I cried twice in Tough Mudder I think because
it was very difficult.
Tough Mudder was really hard to be fair.
Yeah.
Also my calf muscles couldn't handle it.
Like running in the sand in Dubai is like awful. I just wouldn't recommend it.
And I was really unfit and Risa basically was like, come on babes, come and do it.
And I was like, yeah, I will never do anything like that again. It was awful.
But anyway, I got to the top of the ramp and like it wasn't even that high, but it's just this fear.
Honestly, it really consumed me.
I had to go back the other way, which was actually a bit dangerous.
But anyway, I've been continuously trying to push myself with heights and I was much
better on the zip line.
I really did enjoy it, took it in.
And then we sailed, no, we flew to another island and then sailed for three days on islands,
like island hopping.
I put up on my Instagram stories yesterday, I've got highlights if anyone wants to look.
And it was like a booze cruise.
Oh.
Have you been drinking?
Have you got, have you drank?
I had some rum and coke on one day and then I was like, I had my little fix and then I
didn't drink after that.
That was enough.
Yeah.
Yeah. It was nice to have, and I love rum. Like if I'm going to drink a spirit, it would
always be rum. So like I was like, oh, and it's quite a drink here. But anyway, it was
very therapeutic because these girls were lovely and they might
be listening. So shout out. Look at me giving all these shout outs. Who am I?
I know.
Who do I think I am?
Give her a rest.
I know. Come on. They're probably like, she's such a loser. But they were like sort of between
20 and 25. And they were lovely. But they reminded me of my school friends when we were their
age in a sense of like really funny, like goons. And I mean that in the nicest way,
like we just, like just silly and I loved it. And they were just great fun. And I feel
like it was very healing for me actually. I feel like naturally I offered lots of advice
and guidance because you get me and we sat
in circle at the whole time was on the boat.
There was another couple there.
They were our age and there was like families and older people.
It was just like the young, the youngsters all were at the front.
And yeah, it was really cool.
And I just feel like, yeah, we, I pulled my tarot cards.
I've read for them.
That's what's making me laugh is they've gone
to go on a bloody booze cruise.
And you're there like, tell me a life story.
I know, I'm like, what's the trauma with your dad?
Tell me.
Yeah.
But they all did say they were like really grateful
and they were like, oh, we really feel like
it was meant to be.
And I feel like when I was like, you know, 10 years ago
someone sort of giving me advice and guidance.
I remember, even now
I'm like, give it to me, but like they would absolutely, they loved it. So it was really
lovely. So I felt like it was really nice to sort of be around sort of younger people,
not that I'm old, but like, I feel like I know what you mean. When do I ever hang around
I do think there's quite a shift in a 20 year old
to a 30 year old.
There's a massive shift.
And I don't know if there's a huge shift
between a 30 year old and a 40 year old.
Maybe I'll change my mind in 10 years time.
But in the way you are and the way you carry yourself,
I feel like, like I've got friends
who are almost 10 years older than me
and we're very, very similar.
Whereas if I had friends who were 10 years younger than me
and they were 20, probably won't be mates.
Know what I mean?
No, that's totally true.
And obviously they've got so much more to experience.
So I was obviously helping them with a few bits and bobs
and sharing some things.
And so yeah, it was good fun.
So that was me.
Oh, I've just lost you.
I just swiped my zoom.
There you go, you're back. No, was me. Oh, I've just lost you. I just swiped my zoom. There you go.
Yeah.
No sir, I thought I'd just left the call. And then I stayed in a little fisherman's
village. It was really cute. Middle of nowhere, best sunsets. And I had basically napped and
read like three books. It was so good. And now I'm in a different island, which is more
touristy to work and then back to Thailand.
So yeah, it's been good babes.
Lush, love that.
Yeah, yeah, so that's me.
But how were you?
You went on holiday.
All good, I have had a little holiday.
You know what one thing that I wanted to say
when you just said about the zip wire thing.
Oh yeah.
When my granddad turned 90, for his 90th birthday,
he wanted to do the zip wire in, is it Snowdonia?
Yeah.
It's like the longest one in Europe, I think.
And he was desperate to do it.
And he'd had a fall, I think he'd broken some ribs and they were like, you know, you're
not going to be able to do it.
We had to postpone it.
Anyway, he did it at 90.
He couldn't even walk.
Like he had to walk with a stick and someone carrying him
like at this point and he still did the zip wire.
They had to connect the stick to his back when he did it.
So then he had the stick at the other end.
Oh my God, I love that.
I know and all the family did it with him for his birthday.
But I don't think any of us even considered us doing it
as in like the, you know, being scared or anything
because we were all just thinking about him.
At the time it came to us, we all just got in
and just went and then I was like, oh yeah,
this is probably actually a little bit scary
but it was fun.
My nan's turning 19 August, maybe I'll suggest it for him.
Yeah, suggest it.
But yeah, we have just been on a little stay case.
So we did book, I don't know if people will remember this.
I don't even know if I did mention it.
We did book to go to the Maldives in, was it now?
Yeah, it was.
Yeah, it was around now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we did book to go to the Maldives and I canceled it
because it just felt like a bit too much of a stretch
financially and just in general,
it just felt a bit too much.
I didn't feel 100% right. Believe it or not and you'll be very surprised and
you'll experience the growth with this. That was the best thing I could have
done. We had so much fun going an hour down the road. We obviously live in a
holiday destination so we're very fortunate with that anyway but we went
to Ras Al Qaima,
which for those that don't know is like another emirate.
And it's just an hour down the road
and it's way more chill than Dubai.
There's not really much going on there to be very honest.
It's lovely, yeah.
And we just went to the hotel and did exactly there
what we would have done in the Maldives
and just chilled at the hotel.
And it was so nice.
I absolutely loved it.
It was really, really lovely.
Like just to have so much quality time
with like me and Andy and the girls
and swimming all day every day and taking them to the beach
and going out for dinners at night
and getting them to just sleep in their prams.
And we're so fixed on a routine with them.
And that's why they've always been such good sleepers,
obviously other than when they're sick.
And it was nice to just go on holiday
and just have a little bit more of a flow with things.
So yeah, great.
Oh, I'm pleased that you did that.
Well done.
Yeah, yeah, it was great.
It was really, really lovely.
And then Andy's mum
and dad arrived yesterday. So they're here now for a week. And then at some point I need
to get back to work. Do you know what? I was actually thinking, obviously I've started
working again this week. I really enjoyed being off. I can see how people don't work and are happy.
Well, yeah, yeah, true.
I like structure and I like things.
I do like work, but I think it has been really nice
having the time off, I won't lie.
But I did work on Monday and Tuesday
before they came on Wednesday.
So, but yeah, no, it's been lovely.
It's been really nice.
And then I feel like both of us have said,
I feel like all of a sudden we're in April
and I'm like, summer's really close now.
It is actually mad.
Like I'm like time has gone so quick this year.
And it's just like weird.
Like it's been a weird vortex of time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So summer for me, I'm gonna be going home
for like quite a long time,
longest time I've ever been home for.
And kind of starting to now think
that that's actually coming up soon.
It's like, well, that's crazy.
No, definitely.
Yeah, I'm similar.
I'm not going home until like middle of August. Will you be in England in August? Yeah. No, definitely. Yeah, I'm similar. I'm not going home until like middle of August.
Will you be in England in August? Yeah. Maybe we'll be able to, maybe I'll do a...
Meet up. Yeah, come up to Manchester.
That would be nice. Yeah.
I'm in Vietnam for a few months, I've decided. And I keep thinking it's like around the corner
because it's like, I'm going to
be there from the end of May for like two and a half months. And I'm like, Oh my God.
And then it's August, then it'll be September, then it's Christmas.
Oh mate, we can't be talking about that.
I know, I know. Shall I give a little update on the energies we're talking about time and
bills? Because I feel like we haven't done this for a while because obviously we've been seeing the questions. We have got some questions, but this is going to come out on Friday and
the full moon is happening on the weekend. So I thought, why not give you guys a bit
of an insight and sort of check in with how you're feeling. So just going to take a little
moment to cough. Ready? So the full moon in Libra is happening Saturday night
into Sunday. So a full moon is when the sun and the moon are opposite each other in the sky. So
the sun reflects on the moon. So that means that the sun is over in Aries. So this is going to
really affect Libras, Aries is it's also going to affect Capricorn
and Cancer quite a lot, this energy.
It's a nice moon.
We've had the eclipses.
It was really intense.
February and March were a full on.
There was the eclipse portal.
We had Venus retrograde.
So the X's are calling.
The Mercury retrograde technology
is an issue.
There was a bit of upheaval and I think for most of my clients and most people I knew,
it just felt like a bit of an uphill climb, if you know what I mean.
So this full moon is a little bit more harmonious to some degree.
It's not as intense and you might feel like you're getting a bit
more clarity now. You might feel like you're starting to think what you want
to do, you might not feel as like in your head about stuff, like you might just be
thinking like hmm, got a bit of a mojo back if you know what I mean. That's sort of
what's coming up and And we have this significant
part which is an asteroid called Chiron, which is a witch wound, okay? And basically that's
with the sun in the sky in Aries. And what the witch wound does is it brings up self-sabotage,
worrying about what people think. So you may feel a little bit like paranoid or a little
bit more in the head right now about like what others think of you. Because some stuff
came up for me with that, which always happens on this particular moon. It's very interesting
because I track all the transits and I write how I feel and I reflected over the last two years and every time the moon is in Libra
or Aries, this comes up for me. It's really interesting. Yeah, very bizarre.
It is interesting.
Yeah. So it's just like, it's not as heavy, I'd say. I don't think it says like, you know,
I think we've been through the heaviness. I would say that life's going to get a lot more like exciting around May, more so the end of May. And we're
going to sort of feel more of the change. So actually, even though me and Sam were saying
like the year's been really quick, I feel like the year hasn't even started. Like it
feels like it's actually going to start in the middle of the year around May, June time.
So keep planting your seeds, keep doing what you're doing.
But it's a nice energy.
If you want to do any rituals, I would say that this is more about relationships because
it's Libra.
So that may be sort of after the Venus retrograde, we've all had stuff come up with one-to-one
relationships.
So look at what you want to shed from that,
what you want to release and yeah, make space because it's going to be a fun ride after
this. It's going to start feeling a little bit more like we're going to receive some
rewards from spirit.
It's a nice time of year as well for that to happen, like you say. I feel like May is
a nice time of year.
It's just been a hard slog for I think most people.
I've just been so internalized.
Like I just feel like I've been so in my head this year.
And not in like a bad way, but just like self-development.
Like, you know, how am I gonna make changes?
Like, what do I need to improve?
Like it's felt quite...
Yeah, I get that. I've probably been saying, to be fair.
Yeah. I think a lot of people have and is... I do think that's kind of what we're like
though, as people. And obviously my... Yeah.
I don't know if it's going to go away. Yeah. No, I think like at the moment, I wouldn't
say I've, I'm living a beautiful life, I'm very grateful.
But a lot of the work I'm doing is for future me. That's the way I'd describe it. So I don't
feel like I'm necessarily receiving the benefits of what I'm doing right now. I've received
the benefits from what I did in the past and I'm getting that now with the freedom I have. But like I'm thinking about more longevity
with some of the changes I've made and I'm like future me is going to be really grateful
and current me is impatient. Yeah, I get it. I do. So yeah. So that's the energy. Right,
should we go on to these questions? Let's do it girl.
I've got a couple here.
Some juicy ones.
This one actually made me laugh a bit,
but I mean it's not that it's funny,
but it did make me laugh a little bit.
Okay, right.
That person's gonna be like, oh thanks, Sam.
I know, they're gonna be like, you bitch.
You bitch. Yeah, literally, sorry.
Okay.
See what you think.
I'm currently pregnant and over the moon,
but I have just been told that my ex-husband
is having a baby at the same time
with the woman that he cheated on me with.
And I just can't stop thinking about them on their journey
and I don't think that they deserve this blessing.
Now it made me laugh because I was like,
it's funny when you're in a position.
No, it is funny because you're in this position
where you're like buzzing and you're over the moon.
But then because someone else is also in a happy position,
you're then like, oh, like,
don't let that take you out of where you are. I hear you. Yeah, no, definitely. Yeah, of course, it might be a bit annoying,
but at the same time, your journey is your journey, his journey is his journey. And just thank God that
you're not doing it with him because he's clearly an extra reason. Yes, you're right. I like that.
Sam is on my Tarot course at the moment in the Psychic Academy
and is becoming a pro Tarot card reader and advisory. And I think that we should get you
working with the card soon as well on the podcast.
Well, maybe. Let's see. I'm going to shuffle with one hand because I'm holding the microphone
with the other. I did have the microphone in my cleavage before, but it was a bit probably ruffly for the audio. Ace of ones.
So, Venus Retrograde brings up things about exes. So the fact that you're thinking about
your ex's journey will be something karmic connecting
to the Venus retrograde because it will just be a bit more heightened, especially over
the last couple of months.
Like Sam said, it's about you focusing on you.
And also, let's be honest, we fantasize a lot.
So sometimes we forget why they're our X and we remember the good things.
And you will be looking at this with rose-tinted glasses of like him in that relationship,
I feel. And Venus does that. And Venus was in Pius' which is delusion, which is where
I have it in my natal charts. Sometimes I look at men on a pedestal when I shouldn't. And that was the energy over the last six weeks.
So like, you may be looking at this like with not reality.
And I think you've got a really good partner.
I think you know that.
I don't need to tell you that.
But I think it's more just about being present and focusing on your own relationship.
And yeah, it will be okay.
I don't think this is gonna cause you too much like.
Yeah, I think you just need to move past it.
I get why it could be a bit annoying,
but I just think you need to move past it.
Yeah, I like your new partner
and I'm sure they've been your partner for a while,
but I like them and I think you're
in the right relationship for you and yeah.
Oh my God, how weird is this?
Sorry, it's something that's just come to my mind.
So when I was, I had a boyfriend, right,
when I was like young, like 16, before I met Andy.
And when I was going through fertility treatment,
he must have put online or something,
I don't follow him on anything,
but one of my friends,
because all my friends are from school
and we'd gone to school together,
my friend had messaged and was like, oh God, he's having a kid. But she was thinking, oh,
I don't really want her to see that because she was thinking anyone who was pregnant would
upset me, which it wasn't the case at all. But he had twins.
Did he? That is weird.
How weird is that? Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that is really, really weird. Yeah.
But anyway, that just came to my mind. I just wonder like, energetically sometimes,
like people cross your paths and then it's like your paths can then like be really similar
just with different people. Like it's just. Yeah. Yeah. And one moment could have been
that like you were with him and just like this person who's saying, no, it could have been you with eggs, but fate came in.
And also that baby chose you and the baby daddy
to be their parents.
Yes.
Oh yeah, I love that.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Right, okay.
In a dilemma and I have a birthday party
of a friend's child and on the same day,
a chance to work and make some extra money.
The friend and I have not been close but we are making an effort.
However, two other girls are going that give me extreme anxiety.
Do I show up for my friend or do I take work as a way out?
Oh, I don't think you should go.
Why would you put yourself in a position
where your words are extreme anxiety?
Do not give someone else any satisfaction
at your own risk, like no.
And at the end of the day,
it's your friend's kid's birthday party.
I don't think they're gonna be that bothered
to be honest with you.
Like it's one less person, sometimes a bit easy.
Like, yeah, I just think,
and you know what I would do?
I wouldn't actually use work as a way out.
I would be honest and say, like, look, I'm really sorry.
I've got this chance to work.
So I kind of feel like I'm in a position
where I could really do with taking it,
but I'll be honest, because X, Y, and Z are going,
they really, I don't feel comfortable around them.
So that's why I'm gonna just go with the option for work.
I hope you can understand,
we'll celebrate another time,
like go out for her with a kid,
you know, do something else.
That's what I would do.
Yeah, yeah, well, we've got the deaf card.
So that's like endings and beginnings. So like it's not, we've got the deaf card, so that's like endings and beginnings.
So like it's not, you know, physical deaf.
It's this feeling of like rebirth.
So like this is an opportunity for you to grow as a person.
And you know, it's an opportunity to like restart the way you show up in this friendship.
So like, I am a bit more of a wimp and would just use work as an excuse and avoid the people.
But that's because I am a liberalising and people pleaser and working through that.
But I definitely would work if I didn't want to go and there was an option to work.
I wouldn't even like question that. And I think that if a friend doesn't understand,
like again, do you need a friend like that?
Yeah, 100%.
And also though, the reason I get why people
would just choose the easy option,
obviously not be necessarily confrontational.
It's not that I'm saying in a confrontational way,
but it is confrontational having that conversation.
I get that.
But I think that you're doing yourself a disservice
by going or doing yourself a disservice
by not saying like, I'm not gonna go because of this.
Don't give your friend the option to be like,
oh, she chose work over this.
Like, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't think it's a strong friend anyway.
You've literally said that you've not been that close.
So like if I had my coaching hat on, what I would advise is if it is such an issue and
you're in a lot of social environments with these two individuals to then like have a
conversation with that friend at some point to sort of explain why.
But I also would then self-reflect that why do they bring up anxiety? What is it for you
that's triggering you? Is it because they're not right? Is it because they're mean? Is it that
there's something that they have that you would like to be? Explore why it brings up anxiety,
because actually it could be quite healing. But like I say, if you don't
want to do that, just tell a white lie. Very funny. No, I just know-
We're so different in the way that we would handle things.
But I just know for me sometimes I've sort of thought to myself, I will work on it, like I'd work on the trigger, but I'd do it privately,
but maybe that's because I'm a sculpio, I mean. But Sam, you're good. You've got a bit
more oomph in that sense.
It's not always a good thing to be fair, but yeah, I know what you mean.
His story is good.
I don't like to let sleeping dogs lie.
I'm kind of one of them.
Absolutely.
I'm like, I just have to say something.
But anyway, yeah.
No, it's good.
Yeah, let us know how you get on with that
because I'm quite interested to know.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's see which side you chose.
Yeah.
The devil going for yours.
No, not necessarily.
Okay.
Right.
How do I get out of the rut
of constantly comparing myself to others?
I have been doing the same job for 15 years now
and I love my job and I know I'm great at it,
but I'm constantly comparing myself to other people
and what they have.
I'm constantly just keeping my head above water money-wise
and everyone else seems to be thriving.
Is it partly jealousy of other people and partly
them inspiring me to push, oh sorry, it is partly jealousy of other people and partly them inspiring
me to push myself but it just never seems to take off for me. Do I have a victim mentality and how
do I get over it? I really relate to this. Really?
I really relate.
Absolutely.
So basically I just want to summarize it
because I feel like I, yeah.
So they're feeling behind?
I don't see that they're feeling behind.
I see it that they've been in the same job for 15 years
and they're very happy.
They've literally said they love their job, right?
But they're just comparing themselves to everyone else.
They're trying to keep their head above water.
Like they don't feel like they've got money wise.
Whereas everyone else is doing is thriving.
Yeah, and I definitely used to feel like that
when I sort of left corporate
and all my friends were getting like more pay rises
and bonuses and I felt like I couldn't even afford a car. I was like, this is a bit of shit.
And I think, so I've pulled two cards, Queen of Wands and King of Swords. So if you feel
something, you're being shown something. So don't be hard on yourself and don't shame
yourself. But I would say the fact that you're feeling slightly like comparison, looking
at others, there's something in your soul that is asking for change.
Now you've worked at this company for 15 years, that's amazing, but maybe there is some shift
that you're ready to make and maybe you need to face that and
it actually feels a bit scary and sort of when you see others, you know, maybe succeeding
or whatever, you could feel a little bit like triggered.
Now there was something about jealousy, wasn't there, at the end?
Do they feel jealous?
Do they feel jealous?
Is it?
They said, oh, sorry, yeah, they said, it is partly jealousy of other people and partly them inspiring me to push
myself, but it just never seems to take off for me.
So that's really self-aware, like firstly.
That's what I thought because they say at the end, sorry, do I have victim mentality?
So the fact that you've even said that, you're obviously very self-aware of how you're feeling
and how it's coming across.
Yeah.
How it's going across.
And I think we all have victimhood at times in situations. And I think that the only element
that could be victim is it doesn't seem to ever take off. So there is some element there that's
coming through that tells me you have some lack of self-worth in what you want to do.
you have some lack of self-worth in what you want to do. Genesys is a really good thing. It can really show you where you want to go. And if it's not taking off, get help. Work
with someone. And I know you said financially, you're not in the best position, but however
you can, even if it's a friend, get accountable. It feels like you just need to sort of attract someone who's maybe trying to build something
that you're trying to build.
But I feel as though change is needed.
I sense that on a soul level that you're too comfortable.
I feel like this person is coming from a state of lack,
right, and when you're thinking of like manifesting,
you have to feel abundant, right, to manifest.
You have to feel already abundant.
I am so grateful for everything that I have in my life.
I am so abundant, like I'm so healthy, I'm happy,
I have this, I have that, like you need to see
all the amazing things that you have in your life,
which I understand is not always easy to do
when you're maybe in this place,
but there is a hell of a lot that you can feel grateful for,
I'm sure of it, and you will never ever attract more
if you can only see what you don't have.
Yeah.
Yeah.
To see what it is that you could achieve,
like look ahead and not let other people,
not what everyone else is doing, like in yourself.
I don't know, it's a bit hard.
Maybe I'm not explaining this in the best way, but-
No, you are explaining it well, keep going.
I feel like with, when you're saying
I'm keeping my head above water, sorry, money-wise,
and everyone else seems to be thriving,
firstly, not everyone else is thriving.
Unless you can see their bank account
and their outgoings and their ingoings,
you don't know that they're thriving.
You're just seeing what they want to show you.
You know what I mean?
Like you have no idea if they're thriving or not.
They could have a credit card bill racked up
and you might have no debt.
Like don't look at other people
and think that they're thriving
because you don't know actually what's going on.
You're only seeing what they want you to see.
Look at your own stuff
and see where you can make improvements.
And I think like Jess said, seek help.
But what I would say with that
is you can get help in so many ways.
There are podcast episodes, there are books, there are so many free resources that you can get help in so many ways. There are podcast episodes, there are books,
there are so many free resources that you can use
to be able to change your mindset.
When you change your mindset,
you literally gain like fucking key to the Pandora's box.
You can do anything when you change your mindset, anything.
So firstly, if you really struggle comparing yourselves
to others, get off social media or unfollow all these people
like I've said a million times before
and follow the ones that inspire you
and the ones that are in the similar position to you maybe
and surround yourself with people that lift you up
and make you feel good and not make you feel less than.
We all have it, don't get me wrong.
Like I've got a friend, right?
And she listens to this, she's probably listening now.
She has this incredible house
and Jess knows already who I'm talking about.
She has this insane house, right?
It is beautiful and immaculate, right?
And every time I go onto a house, I think,
wow, like one day I'd love to have a house like this.
But I don't come away and think my house is shit.
I just think, wow, like that house is amazing.
And like, you know, maybe one day I'll have a house like this.
And I come back to my house and I think,
wow, my house is also amazing.
Like I love my house.
I'm so grateful for my house.
If someone turned up on my door tomorrow and wanted to buy my house off me, I wouldn my house is also amazing. Like I love my house. I'm so grateful for my house. If someone turned up on my door tomorrow
and wanted to buy my house off me,
I wouldn't sell it to them.
Even though I would love to live in a much bigger house,
but because I'm so happy where I am.
And you've got to create that state of like gratefulness
for what you have to be able to attract more.
It's as simple as that.
But some of the books that I would really recommend,
one of the books I love is Amanda Francis, Rich as Fuck.
That is a really, really good book
for changing your money mindset.
If you feel like her approach is a little bit too much,
some people find her a little bit too harsh,
then Denise Duffield Thomas does one called
Get Rich, Lucky Bitch, and that's a really good one as well.
But yeah, there's plenty of also like free resources out there that can again change
your mindset.
DM me on Instagram if you're listening back to this and ask me because I would love to
help.
I love that.
And also-
I went off on a bit of a tangent there.
No, Sam, that was brilliant. I love listening to that. And also- I went off on a bit of a tangent there. No, Sam, that was brilliant. I love listening to that. And also, I think on a personal level,
when I was focused on everyone else, it really distracted me from my own path. And a few
people have given me feedback and told me what they are inspired by with me is that
I don't really follow rules and society. I feel like that is because I
stopped comparing myself because I could always feel behind. You're always behind someone
and you're always ahead of someone else.
Absolutely.
I feel like once I stopped tracking in my own database of where everyone's at, I chilled
out and I then just sort of was able to follow my intuition more
of actually what I want and what's important to me.
And it's like really different to like probably
most of my friends and that's like really nice actually
to have found that.
So yeah, well done.
We're all on our own path.
Thank you.
No, we're all on our own path.
Stop being hard on yourself, but like Jess said, use it to your're all on our own paths, thank you. No, we're all on our own paths, stop being hard on yourself,
but like Jess said, use it to your advantage,
look at what it's showing you,
and your life can be whatever you want it to be.
Amen.
At the end of the day.
Amen, honey.
Amen.
Right, last one, last one,
and I had to add this one in there.
I actually only just found this one today,
even though it was sent in quite a few weeks ago.
Anyway, how does my male friend
that I spend a lot of time with feel about me
and is our relationship too valuable to risk for love?
Ooh.
Dun, dun, dun.
Another one I can relate to.
This is something that you're gonna have to answer more,
I feel like, because you're gonna have to use your intuition on this one.
We're going to have to use the cards.
Okay, so, how do you feel about them?
How do they feel?
Okay.
So, I've pulled a relationship spread, just three cards.
So how do you feel with them? Free of cups?
You've friend-zoned them because they fancy you, I think, and I don't think they feel
like they can come into your energy. So like, open up sexually, spread those legs. No, I just feel like they don't feel like they can approach you in that more sexual
way.
How do you think that you then change that?
Maybe you change the way that you are with them a little bit.
Yeah.
So the reason I can relate is I feel like I had a boy best friend for years that I definitely fancied and it was just so friend-zoned that there was, you know, it was just always
this weird dynamic.
And I think that like, you can sometimes do that out of protection to not get rejected.
And I feel like now I actually don't really have many boy mates
in all honesty, or if I do, they're gay. Like I just feel like sometimes there's like a
safety or a protection. I'm not saying you shouldn't have boyfriends. It's not that.
It's just sometimes that can be the theme. And I feel as though without realizing you're
projecting out something that's more friend vibes. So what could you do?
Access the divine feminine, okay. So what that is is being maybe a little bit more...
Maybe go for dinner and not coffee. Mmm. Rub is fire. I, I wasn't going that far. Just a little rub and see how he reacts.
Or be tactile.
Or just be tactile as in like, you know, just up.
Or just get really drunk, really drunk.
Oh, God.
And kiss him.
Yeah.
And then if it goes wrong,
the next day you can blame it on the alcohol. You can be like, Oh, what was that?
I just think make your move because I actually wish with my friend I did.
And I feel like that is actually a regret I have.
Yeah.
I never told you how I felt.
You do have to do that as well actually, because I feel like you've got to release it from
you.
Yeah.
Some, some people need that release.
Yeah. Yeah. But you need that release.
Yeah, but I just mean, don't harm those feelings.
I think so.
I'm pretty sure they said that they,
did they say they feel the same?
I think so.
I think so.
Let me have a look.
Well, they just asked if it's too valuable to risk.
I think it's worth the risk,
because do you know what?
It's lovely to have male friendships when you're a woman,
but sometimes they don't last forever because you do get married or they get a girlfriend.
So sometimes I think, do you know what? It's worth the risk. And I feel like I'm saying
this because I wish I definitely was a bit more put myself out there in my friend zone dynamic. And I think that they
sometimes, but men are quite insecure at times and they need that little bit of like assurance
and green light.
I also find if there's a boy girl friendship, normally one of them is attracted to each
other.
It tends to be the case, doesn't it?
Yeah.
I feel like he's into you and I think you just need to open up
emotionally, spiritually and literally.
And I think there could be a good result from this.
So let us know.
Ooh, excited.
Yeah, please let us know.
I feel like we need to follow up on that.
Yeah.
Oh.
Well, that is the end of our questions.
That is, that was lovely.
I enjoyed that, Samantha.
It was, I thoroughly enjoyed it too.
I hope everybody enjoyed this week's episode
and we'll be back in two weeks time.
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