Spiritually Speaking with Jessica & Samantha - Jess turns 30 and a special guest!

Episode Date: March 1, 2024

Join Jess and Sam on this week's heartwarming episode of Spiritually speaking as they welcome a very special guest, Jess's mum, Linsey! It's a celebration of Jess's 30th birthday, filled with nostalgia, laughter, and cherished memories. Listen in as they reminisce about Jess's childhood, share touching moments, and dive into the endearing quirks of Jess's sensitive side. Get ready for a heartwarming journey down memory lane, filled with giggles and stories that will leave you smiling.Follow us on socials@spirituallyspeaking_podcast@hairbysamanthagreen@jessicamarie_hollistic

hello and welcome back to spiritually speaking with me Sam and with me Jess I found that really weird actually doing that because I haven't done the intro for like three weeks that was really weird it was it was nice though I kind of almost thought I was gonna forget what I was gonna say um how are you I'm good babes I'm good I've had a nice week obviously this is actually coming out on my birthday yeah Yeah, happy birthday. Thank you. The big 3-0. Yeah, I know, crazy. So it's a busy week this week. I have mum and dad over. I actually

have my mum sitting next to me right now because you're going to be a guest on this week's episode. How are you feeling mum? I'm feeling nervously excited. Yeah. That's good. I think it's going to be great. I think when you, like, when we asked, obviously, you to do it, and we've asked my mum as well, it seems really, really nerve-wracking,

but it's actually really just fun and we're just sat chatting and you kind of forget that anyone's even going to listen to this. Just the microphone in your face. Yeah. That's the only thing. Yeah. It's all good, though. It's all good.

So I'm all good, babes. It's busy. Lots of socializing I had a really busy day Monday because I had like a networking event so that was really good yeah um and that was pushing me a bit out of my comfort zone I was actually really nervous oh really yeah I was but it it was good and I feel pleased that I did it and I think it was good for me to sort of get myself yeah a bit out there which is a priority for me right now there's like this obviously doing this podcast but also with business being a bit more bold yeah and courageous and you'll feel more

like inclined to do things like that in the future yeah once you've done one yeah how it goes and like a few people really sweet they were like where have you been hiding they were like oh they gave me really good feedback and I think that was quite nice for me to sort of feel reassured yeah from it all so yeah and then just beach days because it's my birthday week and we're gonna sunbathe aren't we it's your birthday yeah I'm a bit of a birthday diva birthday week I know especially when it's your 30th though you've got to you have got to go for it yeah so i think that's what we're doing so it's gonna be yeah it's gonna be good yeah i can't wait yeah so just living the dream yeah love that how are you babes i'm good i am like in a whirlwind of obviously newborn yeah um but no it's good it's intense it's lovely it's hard it's beautiful it's everything yeah it's a lot but it's

it's nice it is nice you're doing so well and the twins just seem to be really happy and you went out yesterday we went out yesterday went to the mall me and my mom my mom's here for like six weeks which i do not know what i would do if she wasn't here like honestly it's been an absolute godsend and I would be so sad when she leaves um but yeah we went to the mall yesterday and one baby was sick all over herself the other um pooed through her nappy um so that was intense but it was fine like it was good because I had her with me I didn't get stressed yeah I think I imagine if I was on my own I'd have probably been a bit like crap what yeah totally um so it was nice to kind of experience all those things with having someone with me rather than doing it on your own first time I imagine yeah um but it was good yeah no

it was good and we're getting out and about more now I'm driving now which is great um and it's nice to just have a bit of normality yeah it feels like more normality for you now yeah we bumped into each other on sunday night we were going to the liverpool supporters club to watch the football game with dad and you were going to waitrose or spinneys yeah and uh we just it was so nice to bump into each other we're so like oh my god but like you just seem so in your like flow and yeah so just give yourself a bit of credit for that thank you yeah I feel like I do have to remind myself like how young they still are yeah and that it's okay to still be finding your feet and like you say especially because there are two of them yeah

I do also think with two of them that obviously I haven't got a clue but I feel as though there's a little bit more of a mentality to just you have to get on with it I guess you have one as well but no it's true though yeah I do think that I think you know that it's gonna be you know it's gonna be hard like yeah I think you've got less people to watch as to how to do it yeah so you kind of just have to find your feet with it um but yeah no it is it's okay like it's I am loving it yeah um I think I'm just still learning how to how to do it yeah which is fine yeah yeah and I think like is there been anything you found quite tough over the last week I think the main things that I find tough is just knowing whether or not you're doing things right like when it comes to feeding them they're like oh yeah you

can overfeed them and I'm like but okay so i've given them what they should have but then they're still hungry yeah so do i give them food because it's i feel mean if i'm not giving them food because they're hungry but then i'm overfeeding them so like that's and that's a really hard thing to get your head around yeah i guess especially where they were premature like you're a bit more conscious of the way and definitely yeah and because they're premature as well the doctors are like oh yeah they're not technically full term yet yeah so I'm like so are these three weeks old or are they 38 weeks like yeah I mean yes it's that's a weird yeah to get your head around I guess at the point till they're full term maybe they're still in that yeah and then it just yeah it's a weird thing yeah it's good like i say i am enjoying it

um i still haven't even been in the salon yet well done yeah i know that's a really like weird thing i didn't think i'd have done that i'm proud of you i think that's a really good boundary for you to focus on your mat leave yeah i really needed to just step away and just um enjoy this time and focus on them um and i'm really glad that i have done that um but i feel like the longer i leave it the more i'm like no i need to go in like or well the harder it is to then go in yeah but i think also maybe detaching from it having that space will help you then reset how you're going to approach motherhood and being a business owner yes i think the detachment helps you realign the expectations boundaries so i wouldn't agree yeah definitely

yeah because there's now the version of you that you know as a business owner and there's also a version of you that is a mom and now it's about bringing them together in a new way yeah and just working that out that is yeah spot on yeah yeah definitely so should we crack on with this episode yeah let's do it so in light of jessica marie's 30th birthday we've got a very very special guest as we mentioned at the beginning and we've got jess's mum here lindsay hello everybody it's so lovely to to be here it's so nice we're so glad to have you here thank you we just thought what better way than to celebrate jess's birthday than have a mum here learn a bit more about jess what she was like as a child um the things that you all really want to

know yeah and we just wanted to make the most of our parents being here didn't we definitely we're gonna have nina on sam's mum the next episode yeah i think so yes yeah i need to actually remember that it's mother's day you do i haven't actually spoke to you about it that's really bad oh my god you're gonna have your first mother's day i'm excited oh my god i know i better clean up i've got two kids now absolutely have you had a push present as well not yet I will have one good I forgot all about it but I definitely will be probably two actually push present yes yeah I've never heard of that have you not never well the absolute so a push present is basically when you push out a baby you get a present and um someone at Andy's work and if you're listening to this hon

then you know you'll realize how i did feel about that comment she said to um she said to andy and she was joking she said to andy she went but she's not actually pushing out a baby and i was like bitch please absolutely not cutting through eight layers of skin to get them out amen sister yes exactly um so yeah so a push present andy if you're listening yeah she's waiting i'm waiting and gary if you're listening i need three i love that he does yeah yeah that is great oh um so let's should we ask your mom some questions yeah let's do it okay so like i'm gonna interrupt loads and be like well no actually yeah yeah you're gonna have to bite your tongue yeah yeah i'll be the exact same as my mom so what was jess

like as a child she was really a lovely i'm not just saying it just she was a really good child um she could be a bit emotional at times no yeah yeah she was bless her um just be honest yeah use the words that you would describe me as could be very miserable sad child yeah she did yeah many times a long time or I would say from about seven yeah I struggled a bit because she did seem quite miserable I hate saying that word yeah yeah but I think that's also because we didn't understand what was going on for me yeah so it's probably frustrating yeah I mean I did and I mean for instance like you know when Jess was younger like you know birthday parties every child would love to go to a birthday party yeah but Jess was never really one that wanted to go yeah which I found that really hard

I think oh you know when I was young I couldn't wait to go to a party Jess no and what did you do did you still send her to the parties of course she did of course tough love yeah tough love yes i did and um you know and i'm glad i did that but yeah it was hard you know lots of kind of times but you think you just loved everybody we were talking about do you know the other day so we were talking about when it was my fourth i think it was my fourth birthday party because i was thinking about where we was doing this episode, I was thinking about my earliest memories. And we got my dog, who was a puppy then.

And I basically remember this boy, Tom, he had the same birthday as me. He locked the puppy in my toy kitchen cupboard. And it just ruined my day. That would ruin anyone's day. Well, yeah. It would ruin my day today. But as a four-year-old,

I was devastated I was so angry and upset and I really remember feeling yeah those emotions then and it was funny because it really sparked the whole birthday really it was Tom not me yeah because she literally everything we did on that birthday she just sat and cried oh what about the um we got the giggles as well about pass the parcel oh yeah i as a mum really i was really bad i didn't explain the rules of pass the parcel okay so you know just being bless that bit sensitive one of the children obviously won it and that was it just was in tears i didn't understand she didn't understand the rules although my presents for my birthday

because my mum showed me and said, these are for your party. So for anyone who doesn't know what Pass the Parcel is. Yeah, true. Yeah. If you don't, where have you been living? Yeah, where have you been living? Highlight of our childhood. Yeah.

Pass the Parcel is a present at like a kid's party where you put something in each layer. Yeah, you do. Am I right? Yeah, you put like a main present and then lollies and sweets. Yes, like sweets in each layer yeah you do all right you put like a main present and then lollies and sweets and like sweets in each layer and you wrap each layer and then you play music and you stop the music and then when it stops the person can unwrap a layer yeah and then obviously right at the end is when the actual present is won yeah so you thought that was your birthday

present so i was just fuming because obviously my brain needed to know every element of detail of past the past or four years old. And I remember this so clearly. And I remember who got the present still. And he's lovely. He's a lovely boy. It's nothing against him. You know, he was George. How crazy.

I remember he opened it and I was and it was a coloring book of some sort. And I was devastated because I thought that's mine. And yeah. of some sort yeah and i was devastated because i thought that's mine and yeah but i suppose some mums out there you'd understand that when you've got three daughters you just don't really have the time to just like explain all the rules of games but you can see how my brain was needing to know things but that is you you need to know all the details yes and obviously that's something i learned later on that i needed to do things like that yeah explain everything to jess yeah and it is difficult though because like you say you had three daughters you're probably working as well and then you've got a busy life on top of that

like you don't always then take time i think especially like then as well and i'm the third child she's the third so i suppose i'm the youngest yeah and yeah that's it my dinner you also think by the time i think by the time you get to your third you just feel like you know what you're doing as well so you're like well she's probably going to be like the other two i just had especially because you had three girls that's it and i think you know especially with jess like she just said that you know everything was like having two older sisters everything was on the run all the time. And it was always chicken nuggets and chips in the back of the car. You know those microwave chips, like the McCain's ones in the box?

I lived off those. That was like Pete and Billy Bear. Do you remember when they brought out a Jackie Potato as well? Yeah. And it was like three minutes in the microwave. They still have them. Do they? They have them in Marks and Spencer's in the frozen section.

Oh, they were good. Yeah, they were. No, it was funny. But in the microwave they still have them they have them in marks and spencers in the frozen section oh yeah they're really good yeah no it was funny so i loved having big sisters though and running i loved like it was fun and obviously now when i'm older my mum obviously had her hands full but yeah i think the miserable child element obviously as you can all tell i'm a pretty happy adult most of the time. Yeah, you are. But I think I had a lot of working out to do. Yeah. And I think in hindsight, if we had known about how... You were feeling. ...sensitive I was to energies and emotions, it would have made so much more sense.

Yeah. Because, like, you obviously at that point weren't in a spiritual space yourself. No, definitely not. No. So it was just, like, what's wrong with this kid? Yeah. I was thinking, yeah, I was thinking, what have I have i done wrong you know and trying to talk to jess she wasn't always one

and them days to be quite open for how you felt um i don't think i understood to be honest yeah i don't think you would know how to but i understand now that with with jess like there's a lot of people in the room with how she is now spiritually i think it's too much for her she just oh i can imagine like she picks up people's emotions from everywhere you know you could be in a room and jess will pick up an emotion of somebody you know dad you know just wouldn't you just pick up their emotions yeah but i think obviously i'm better at protecting it but if i do pick it up now i know it's not mine but obviously when i was a child yeah so saying mum and dad were having a bad day I obviously they're not going to tell me that because they're going to protect me yeah so I would

always feel like things were up or something wasn't right because I was feeling it but no one was telling me so like it was I really remember that as a kid thinking like what's I'd be like what's going on what's wrong tell me the truth tell me the truth are you hiding something yeah or you would say that sometimes I'd say things and dad would be like have you's going on? What's wrong? Tell me the truth. Tell me the truth. Are you hiding something? Yeah, or you would say that sometimes I'd say things and Dad would be like, have you told Jess? And I'd know stuff. Oh, wow. Yeah.

To be truthful, it was quite frustrating because, as you know, Sam, when you've got children, you sometimes want a private conversation with each other. As I know. I mean, I'm three weeks in. Yeah. And I remember many a time, even when Jess was younger, Gary and I would go out for a walk with the dog and uh we'd come back and you know you say as a couple like don't

mention anything to the children because we of course yeah and then we'd kind of sit on the sofa and jess would be sitting there and she would just come out with the whole conversation we just had and it happens many times so i wouldn't realize what i would just be picking up on something and yeah and i remember gary saying i said to you don't tell the children and i said i swear i never told her anything oh my god as a young child she would be sitting there with a coloring book and she'd just look up coloring all the time yeah and she would just repeat near enough word for word about the conversation wow basically i know everything she does she does yeah so i know this is kind of later on but one stage um like gary you know

semi-retired and does a job in a charity and she sat there one day we'd gone out and come back in and she said to gary um you're're gonna get married now your company's gonna um be um taken over by another company just out the blue next august and like oh i think it was oh he was what's going on for me then and then i sort of was like how old were you sorry this wasn't that long ago this was probably like oh right maybe five years ago okay this wasn't as a child but like he obviously dad he's in he's into it he's into it because i'm into it but he sort of was like well you know what's happening for me then you know and i was like well i'm feeling like there's going to be a merger and that he's

going to change you and it's going to be a bit you know stuff going on there and he was like no absolutely not and then it happened but i think as a child it would be more sort of like mummy are you okay yeah what's happening or if like you guys maybe if dad was stressed at work or sometimes there were some telltale signs like you two used to love a serious chat in the dining room oh so dramatic like mum and dad like if the dining room door was closed me and my sisters would be like, oh shit, they're either booking a holiday or something's happened. It's either like the best thing ever.

Disneyland. Yeah. Or we're losing the house. One of Jess's specialities, she has got the amazing hearing. She can hear anything from anywhere. Oh, really? Honestly. I've got really good memory and really

good hearing yeah really so obviously that's why the door was closed of course because she was as you learn that didn't didn't matter you could be down the road and she'd still know i would just know things like i even knew like as a kid that i remember when your nan died like you I think I'd come home from school and was just like oh nanny Moulds died hasn't she and you weren't there and Zoe was like yeah and obviously Zoe sorry I love you but I just remember you just being a bit awkward about it and I just remember to sit with my emotions with it till you got home because you were gonna wait to tell me but I just knew so yeah so there was quite a lot of moments where so sorry to interrupt you when did you know when did you know then that Jess was like

spiritual I don't I think thinking back now as a child she always kind of like um had nightmares slept well talked a lot still do and still does but I would say it was about when she was 16 I kind of put everything together and thought this is really different yeah and Gary would deal with most of the nightmares and the talks but this particular night I went into a room I think Gary had gone away with work and I saw it for myself it was something so different than I'd ever seen and I knew then that there was something very different and then i think i kind of put it all together and thought god everything she went through as a child now i can see yeah um you know so it was then i would say this is

different because gary had witnessed it yeah i hadn't yeah um and she used to get really annoyed with me because i didn't understand what she was saying oh so what would happen was so i do sleep walk and talk even like it happened last week when i thought we had a cat that we hadn't fed we don't have a cat so it was like this random thing had come up and that was probably more symbolic to that responsibility and stress but sometimes yeah like it can feel like someone's there i didn't tell you this so you told me that the other day when we bumped into each other yeah and i didn't say it yet i've been doing the exact same thing have you just recently so i sleep talk a lot yeah but it will settle for ages and then it'll come back at like different points when like things might be heightened um now since we've had

the twins i've started sleep talking again and i will wake andy up and i'm like we didn't feed river we didn't feed river and he's like go back to sleep you've already fed her like and i keep doing that each night um oh that's okay i think that's quite normal post baby few people i know have said they wake up in like it's like panics yeah because you're obviously on a bit more of a high alert yes yeah it's it's like subconscious that's what it is it's the subconscious comes through yeah and obviously for me because my subconscious is more accessible because of what i do right i and then sometimes having basically i think i go to sleep and god knows where i go i think i go to a different land love that um so sorry i i feel like i interrupted you then um so when she'd had

this episode when she's about 16 and then you thought to yourself like wow okay there's actually something more to this how did you then kind of handle that well i think it was just suggested we went somewhere didn't we we did like a call so there's this amazing lady called louise and she's really spiritual and she's been a big teacher for me and she helps explain it all and we went and did like a full day like course on that intuition and that meditation yeah and i think that helped you understand i think that particular day i actually thought this this that was the day i think it really answered a lot of questions yeah that must have been really nice

and it was really good yeah so i think then when Jess said about going along I was like yeah I think this is time I need to understand this a bit more and I think that was the turning point yeah when I realized um I was still young then obviously and then it kind of was on and off for years you know it wasn't something I knew like how I was as a child, that carried on in the early 20s of my life. So that's probably, that was the activation where I knew, I then was like, okay, not everyone can do this. Yeah, and I don't see it as a gift. Like, I really don't.

I think that's a load of bollocks, to be quite honest. We're all capable of doing it. But for whatever reason, from a little girl, I just had access to it without trying right so some kids are really good at swimming I was just really nosy and knew everything without realizing yeah so it was just kind of like that but so it's I would say for both of us when we look at it it's like a reflection when we look back at childhood and teenage years. Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

I think it was that day that I actually really understood a lot. You know, just one thing, like when Jess said how exhausted she gets, you know, it was so exhausting. I've never felt so exhausted. I've never slept so well ever. Yeah. Because there was so much to take in, so emotions wasn't there. Yeah. Well, exactly. because there was so much to take in so emotions wasn't there and yeah well exactly i think when you access that subconscious and what i mean by that is basically the part of your mind that's

not the one we use so you know the part of your brain is like walk move yes nose yeah so there's that one that just does it then there's the other part of the brain that's like oh you know what should i cook for dinner so it makes decisions and then this is other part of you that you don't actually understand it's it's like the trauma this is the more spiritual side and it's when you access that it's so powerful but yeah it is exhausting because it involves work and you sort of got open to that which was amazing and you never judged me with it you was always really intrigued by the best thing I ever did definitely nothing we've I've come on a long way since you have you've done amazing I think I really you know and things that

just us know you've come on very well thank you so do you feel like it's now made you a bit more like open to spirituality and different ways of thinking basically definitely yeah i would say i think in the last two years i even feel the change in myself oh that's really nice um i'd never meditated uh manifesting and i just never was into that um but definitely changed and i think the whole family has yeah I would say like in a really lovely way so anyone that's on this spiritual journey I always say to them don't preach to your family and don't preach to your friends yeah find your community do the work yourself and if your family want to follow they will yeah and that's exactly what's happened and I think by

just focusing on myself yeah you guys have seen I think you all you said something really nice every day about how I've changed yeah I mean I was a person that said you know you I am what I am you can never change me that was a bit of my saying in my younger days mum's a Scorpio as well so she's quite stubborn in that sense and I gotta say I'm 60 now and in the last two years I think I've actually changed that because I can actually see Jess has really changed a lot. For the better. And for the better. I was going to say that, Jess.

Just to clarify. Did you notice that? I was just going to say for the better. So, yeah, I feel that. Well, I think change is a funny one because if someone cheats and they go, oh, they can never change, there's like, you know that saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, leopard never changes its spots yeah and i don't agree with that no yeah you have learned to see that because i do think in a in the nicest possible way you have changed but i've grown you've grown

yes yes you've grown darling but i think change is you can change for the better or the worse but i think for me with everything we were talking about how I felt I was like okay I have this stuff I've got to deal with yeah how can I make it the best thing ever instead of the worst thing ever yeah because I could have gone down the route of this being the hardest thing of my life yes and you know I didn't and that was a choice and I think that they led my family to be more open no definitely and I think like you know i was laughing the other day when um gary and i were laying in bed manifesting and um i was trying to teach him thought you're gonna say something else i know i was like all right linds no no no please that's

x-rated no no no all right this is not that type of podcast me and gary were in bed no no i did get the word the word right manifest yeahifest. Yeah, well done. Yeah, we do have a bit. Yeah. And Gary was quite, he was really good. And I was trying to teach him. And I think I got a bit too cocky because I was the second. Oh, there we go.

Sorry about the words I keep using. But by the kind of like, I think by the third and the fourth time. Oh. It's like mother like daughter this, isn't it? Jesus Christ. Maybe 60, but we're obviously, as you can tell, we're having an active life. So by the fourth time, he was like getting quite annoyed with me.

He was like, I do know how to do this now. I said, well, okay. You know, so that's what I mean. We're trying it. You know, it was quite funny actually. So yes. Yeah, it opened your eyes to something different. what i mean we're trying it yeah and you know it was quite funny actually so yes oh he just yeah he opened your eyes to something different and i think especially in terms of anything to do with like spirituality or mindfulness or manifesting as soon as you see it work in one simple way

it's like a light bulb goes off in your head and you think hang on a minute if i can do that then what else can i do or how else can i feel yeah so i think jess is really kind of has taught us things because not being funny you know we would go to bed we both have our phone and we'd both be looking at our phone i was like no we've got to change this yeah like you know let's do something together yeah and it's not safe yeah i'm not going to tell you about day five but there you go yes yeah no i think i think that's really good though and i think is there anything that you've particularly manifested then since you've started that you were like oh wow that's happened and i was really wanting that to happen i think it's more

me myself chilling isn't it i think for mum it's more yeah so mum's a bit of she's on the go all the time you so I'd say you've meant I'd say you manifest more for me yeah I do like in a really sweet way so sometimes I'm like right peeps yeah I'm working on this energy right now and I'm working on this project everyone like get involved yeah so we do yeah I mean I do manifest I do manifest for Jess more than do myself so she's got to prioritize herself because that's the way mum loves she's very much in service and helps everyone which is yeah lovely but you've got to put you first yes but also I think for mum with the more mindfulness side and the wellness side you're a lot more present in the moment yeah you are you don't rush as much no no that's good she set some boundaries so i think for mum

i really love this version of mum over the last couple of years because i can see that you've really focused on some things and it's really made a positive impact definitely i mean i know it sounds a silly thing it's like you know if somebody texts me and i'm i'm not really up for it i would kind of text back giving them all the reasons why i'm not up for it now i just say sorry can't make it yeah convenient yeah this is really out of my comfort zone i have to explain why yes you feel like you've got to give a reason yeah so this is something I've learned from Jess, really. Well, I've learned from Sam. You just say no and don't feel guilty. So no, that is Jess's influence, definitely.

Oh, gosh. Yeah, so I feel that, I know she's my daughter, but she has taught me an awful lot. And I perhaps wish I'd done it before. No, don't be hard on yourself. I do. I just feel like you've made me take more chances. You know, I've always been a bit, oh, I don't want to do that just in case I hurt myself.

And I've had a year of things that are very much out of my comfort zone. You've taken some risks. I've taken quite a few risks. And I'd say through my influence, these risks are nothing outrageous. No, no, please. It's not dangerous. No, but they are to me. Mum came to Dubai, so Mum's just you're turned 60 yet

and this was the first time my mum's ever flown on her own yeah like that's a big deal that is and I was like you have got this yeah you're gonna visualize yourself yeah at Dubai airport when you're hugging me feeling so proud that you've done it so like for us that's something we can do without thinking but for mom you married dad at how old 19 18 so like she said you know like we love dad very much but you've also done a lot together i've been with him since i was 18 so he's always looked after me yeah and that's no fault of your own like it's just the way that that works yeah so i think where i've lived a life that's more independent i'd say that's

probably influenced you to definitely she swam in the fish tank at the atlantis with the sharks i did oh my god she was absolutely fuming when i was absolutely fuming i just couldn't talk to her i was so fuming if you booked that for me i would be great i wouldn't do it i would be terrified when she told me i couldn't sleep for nights, I was like really anxious about it. But I did it out of my comfort zone. But I thought, you know what, I'm going to do this. Yeah, good for you. Did you enjoy it?

No. Oh, come on. Did you feel a sense of achievement having done it? I did. I got there and thought, I've got to do this. And, you know, okay, there were sharks underneath me, which I didn't know at the time. Massive sharks.

Swimming underneath me. But I got out and I felt time. Yeah, like massive sharks. Swimming underneath me. But I got out and I felt really, really good. I'm glad I'd done it. Never want to do it again. No, you don't need to do it again. But also, for Dad, Dad said it was the best day of his life, bless him. Like, he was really emotional about it, like, more than his wedding day and the birth of his three children.

The wedding day was emotional, yeah. No, he said his words to me. It's because I'm going to have words to him. No, he said to me, when he got out of the fish tank, he said, this was the best day of my life. And he got really emotional, and I was like, oh, my God. Because that was something that he really wanted to do. He's obsessed with fish.

Oh, that's so nice. Dad will watch documentaries on fish. He's obsessed with sharks. Oh, wow. If you go round to mum and dad's, he's watching a documentary't go around to mum and dad's he's watching documentary on fish or animals i can't even um watch like the finding nemo shark yeah i've watched because i've seen i watched bits with dad sometimes but yeah bless him so

for dad having that experience with mum made that so much yeah so like as much as i did push mum out your cup that yeah even this in the podcast that's put you at your comfort zone yeah definitely you know so you're doing really well i'm really proud of you yeah you are yeah okay and if you think now like you've started to make those steps like you're going to continue doing it now like now the for example you've flown to Dubai on your own you're probably going to do it again now because you feel more comfortable yeah definitely I would um but you have to be careful what you say to Jess because the other day I was talking about helicopters like a friend of mine went in a helicopter and she said do you want to go in a helicopter next mum and I was like no you keep talking about it I said no I'm just

talking about my friend that's been in a helicopter but i don't please don't that i wouldn't book it but she just kept saying it and i was like oh maybe you're like so like if you were a client yeah and they mentioned it a few times i'd be like oh you seem really interested in this helicopter like is this something that you're drawn to so i kind of went a little bit i'm not drawn on my coaching yeah and then i was like well no because dad dad i think would maybe got a helicopter yeah that's all right we'll um we'll maybe um sort out the um parachute jump yeah next week skydive that's it they just always have a heart attack no do you know what i'm not bothered about a skydive i have a real issue with heights considering like i do all mindfulness work i have a real block with heights yeah and it's not heights in an aeroplane it's like standing on a ladder oh i will shake yeah like i did um what's that tough mudder and i climbed up this

pillar and burst into tears oh yeah it was awful i don't want to do that yeah have you um been to dubai frame no that's probably a good place to start because when you walk over the top it's got a glass bottom i think i'd be fine with that because i know well i hope it wouldn't break yeah i think it's do you know what it is it's like my own it's like there's something in me that's like you could hurt yourself right so you know like that go ape where you have to harness and you do the clips yeah fucking hell yeah and at one point i'm standing on this ledge with no clips on because i'd because you just thought let's see what happens no no i just jump and flop to the floor but like i was like shit like i'm in charge of my safety and i don't know because i'm i'm just

yeah i don't focus enough i did but it's different height because you like you can't fall off Kilimanjaro but yeah I did climb Kilimanjaro and that was amazing I think at some point before you leave Dubai we'll do a skydive together I've done one before yeah I think I would enjoy it yeah um I will do it yeah I think it'd be amazing and I'll make sure mum's there and I'll surprise her with it because then she'll watch me plays girls i'll need a nappy on if i go up there it's all right well sam's got some leftover so for jess going into her 30s what do you wish for her in her 30s i think she's done a lot of it already um i i mean her business obviously i want it to flourish which it is is doing um i think she's doing really well i'm so

i'm so proud of her to to think that how she's come along moving to another country yeah um i'm excited for her future i i see good things there yeah and um i'm just yeah i'm using the word excited but i just feel this really lovely feeling inside me that it's all going to be good and that she's got so many ideas and i think some people may think sometimes she has time on her hands but she doesn't because she'll be talking to me and she'll be like right mum I'm just going to go off I've just got something in my mind I've got to work on so I've seen it myself being here that she's always working on something yeah yeah I've always got an idea so my brain doesn't stop it doesn't yeah and it's like a I guess for you to sort of see me in that way now might not be physically working with clients no i'm always yeah sort of you know getting ideas

yeah yeah so yeah so no very proud and excited for the future for jess yeah me too i love that i've thoroughly enjoyed this episode yeah it's been lovely you know i'm really proud of you you've done amazing. We'll have you on again, I think. Yeah, we'll have you back. We'll have wine next time. Yeah, we'll have your mum. And then maybe, you never know,

maybe the dads will make an appearance. Maybe the sisters. Maybe the sisters, yeah. You know? I think Hayley, my sister, would be in her element. Oh, really? We'd have to get the microphone off her at the end. Me and Hayley. Like, episode has ended. It'd be a whole series yeah no there's no it's been lovely girls yeah it's

lovely to be here and uh both proud of both of you i just love listening to it i can't wait for me friday yeah and uh listen to you both but um obviously i haven't met sam before but i feel like i've known her forever so you've seen it quite a lot this trip I have been into it I don't know yeah it's so nice so it's been really lovely so uh yes amazing well thank you so much mum yeah yeah it's been our first guest actually yeah yeah first guest love it okay so thank you so much for listening to our podcast again and do all the stuff that we love which is rates review download subscribe share with a friend yes tell a friend put on your story on instagram tag us in it we love to see it and um if you want to follow us on instagram we are at spiritually speaking underscore podcast mine Mine is at hair by Samantha Green.

And mine is at Jessica Marie underscore holistic. So with that, guys, thank you so much for listening. It's been a really, really special episode to have my mum here, who I love dearly. So thank you for listening, guys. Feel the feels. Keep it real. And have a lovely day. And happy birthday oh yeah thank you