Spiritually Speaking with Jessica & Samantha - Reinventing Your Business & That One Ex—When the Soul Contract is Complete

Episode Date: March 14, 2025

Closure, evolution, and embracing the unknown—this week on Spiritually Speaking, we’re diving deep into the transitions life throws at us.We had questions ranging from seeking closure from an ex after 20 years to navigating business shifts and creative evolution. Whether it's the past still pulling at you or the future feeling uncertain, these moments of change challenge us to trust, release, and realign.Through tarot and intuition, we explore:Is closure something we receive, or do we create it for ourselves?How do we know when it's time to shift gears in our career or business?Why do ideas keep evolving, and how do we trust the next step?This episode is all about making peace with what’s behind us and stepping boldly into what’s ahead. If you’ve ever felt stuck between where you’ve been and where you’re going, this one’s for you.✨ Listen now and let’s tap into the energy of change together.

Hello and welcome to Spiritually Speaking with me Sam and with me Jess. Hello. Hello. We just had a very rush to start this podcast. We have, it's my fault. Jess, you know what though, fair play, like it must be hard dealing with different time zones but Jess has got a call after this and she did you think that you were doing the call now is that right? yes so I get confused with the UK time zone sometimes because obviously the clocks haven't changed yet and yeah so I put everyone's time in my diary as like the time of their location and because I then seemed to get it right.

Every now and then I'd have the odd hiccup and I did have one today but you were on call and were able to do the podcast a bit earlier so thank you babes. Yeah I was literally in the car luckily for some reason coming here earlier anyway and then you were like can you do it now? I was like give me five minutes, put my foot down. Thank you babes, much appreciated. Sorry I feel like my sofa is squeaky, hopefully you can't all hear I was like, give me five minutes, put my foot down. Thank you, babe. It's much appreciated. So I feel like my sofa squeaky. Hopefully you can't all hear that.

It's not me like farting. Sounds a bit like that. Just farting away. Just fart away. How have you been? I've been good. Not major updates. What has been going on? I had my birthday.

Have we done an episode since then? No, we haven't because it's the 13th. So no, we haven't. Yeah. So that was good. Nice. And then I've basically been working. It's been boring. I'll be honest, not boring in a bad way. I don't think boring is the right word, but there's no highlights. But I am going to the Philippines in a couple of weeks, so I will have updates. I was in Phuket actually, my friend Rob, he has a job in luxury travel and booked me in this beautiful five-star hotel

for the night, which I put on my socials. Very bourgeois. It was unreal. So actually it's been pretty good, very abundant, and we've been doing the Manifesting Challenge and there's been a good energy from that. So yeah, in all honesty, that's it. But happy, very happy, very content, very flowy.

Which is so nice. I actually feel exactly the same. Yeah, how lovely. I feel very flowy, very content, very just like, nothing's really going on but in the best way possible. Yeah, just quite happy. Just, just going with the flow. Just doing your thing.

And also we've both been doing some deep inner work with the manifesting stuff, haven't we? Yeah, we have, we really have. So some people might be on the group chat, but obviously on the psychic circle, we've got the, I've set up a 21 day manifesting challenge and I've been doing it every day. I appreciate for a lot of people it might feel like a lot but when you really want to do it sometimes you've got to set the time aside and I feel like that's one thing I've really learned and I've been really disciplined you have as well and I feel like when you just work with spirit and the energy it's very rewarding.

Yeah, definitely. I completely agree. And I've definitely seen weight, like some major shifts since starting it. So it's been really, really good. I've absolutely loved it. But yeah, not really any like particular news to share, to be honest, just kind of, like you say,

just going with the flow and just working hard in the background. Love it, Bites. I've had a few new, I've just started with two new mentoring clients, which is really nice. That's so good. I do one-to-one business mentoring for business owners in the hair and beauty industry in Dubai. And it's really, really nice, I love it.

I used to do it before I had the girls and then I've just kind of started it back up again now and I love it. It's really nice. It's lovely like empowering other women in the same industry. Definitely. I love it.

I'm really happy that you're back into that. That's really good. So well done girl. Well done. It's nice to kind of have something for myself now that I don't do hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a creative outlet. I think when you work with people one-on-one, it's nice. kind of have something for myself now that I don't do hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a creative outlet, I think, when you work with people one on one.

It's nice. Yeah, definitely. Build a bond. Yeah, no, it's good. Oh, here you go. Yeah. So we're going to get straight into these questions, guys. Please do it.

Because you all love them and we don't have much going on. So we're just going to live through all of you with these questions. Absolutely. Sounds fabulous. And then that way we can get through quite a few as well. Sounds good. Okay coke right. Let's go so as We've said before these questions are completely anonymous Jess has got no clue what I'm gonna say either and because the questions come to me even though this like say still anonymous But they do come to me and So yeah let's get started.

Do you want to share the little update first of all that we had? Oh yeah forgot about that sorry. So we had an update from the last one of the last questions that we read which was about the woman who said that her sex life with her husband was a little bit mundane is that the right word? Yeah, when they were drunk, it was fun. When they'd had a drink, it was a bit fun, yeah. So she put update sex question. Since answering my question,

myself and hubby had a date night and watched a raunchy movie. It really got us in the mood. We shared some wine and had a great night of passion. I think having something to stimulate us and give us ideas is going to help. It's a start. Thank you, ladies.

Love it. Well done, babes. Bit of soft poem to get you going. Here we go. Yeah, by the sounds of things. I'm curious what the film was. What film is? Yeah.

Right back in. What film was it? But yes, that was nice to hear anyway. Okay, right, so. For the past 10 years, I've been a business owner. I've gone down multiple different routes and always made success out of anything I've done. I would say after every three years of mastering something,

my spark fizzles out and I start something new. I'm coming up to four years of doing what I've been doing. And it's like the universe for the past nine months has been showing me all the signs to go into a new territory as a success spark of my current business fizzles out. I ask myself the question every day, what's going to be the next thing or do I continue doing what I'm doing? Any advice? Okay. So basically, evolves is constantly changing. Yeah.

And okay, it's fair enough. It's interesting actually, because I can actually really relate to that. Yeah, I relate to that. Because I think I had a very like two to three year rotation. So for example, when I was in the UK, I did a few years in a salon, then I went to Australia. Then I came back, then I did a few years, then I trained to be a makeup artist. Then I moved to Dubai.

Then I went to one salon, then I went to another salon. Then I took on a new qualification, then I opened up a business and then I went to another salon, then I took on a new qualification, then I opened up a business and then I wanted to do something else. And I very much know, can probably resonate with how this person feels. And for me, getting the salon gained me some stability within that, but I actually don't think

there's anything wrong with changing every few years in developing new passions. Like you maybe have people around you that stay in the same job for 30 years. Like for me, for example, my examples in my life of hard work is that, like my dad, for example, stayed in the same job from being maybe 18, worked his way up and stayed with the same company for years and years and years and years until he retired.

And my mom moved around a little bit with her jobs, but was fairly consistent with companies. And I think that there's nothing wrong with wanting to chase a new passion and try something new. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to chase a new passion and try something new. I don't think there's anything wrong with that personally. No, I agree. I definitely agree. I've pulled, so I'm actually using my angel cards today instead of my tarot cards. They have like little written messages, but I'm also feeling some intuition for this person. Firstly, is this person a Gemini or a Virgo? Because I feel some Mercury about them.

There's a lot of like thinking and kind of keeping some sparks. If they know their chart, let us know. So it says, take great pride in your excellent work. Practice makes perfect. Consider getting additional educational training. This is the eight of aerial. Okay. So what comes up for me is maybe it doesn't need to be as drastic this change. It could be that like you do training something or you let your business evolve. I think sometimes what happens is when we're in business, we think it's a box and then we can't move out of it.

And actually when you just let it evolve and it's organic, it's not putting labels, you do change, but it doesn't feel like you're constantly launching and rebranding. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, definitely. And I think this person has possibly been more of like a launch, rebrand, it's this big thing. And it kind of feels more subtle now. It feels more of a just like evolution

of their business. They're clearly successful in business. They clearly know what they're doing. But I wonder now if it's about like learning something, pushing you out your comfort zone with this learning. Yeah, that's kind of what comes up for me. I also feel like this person needs to build more of a passive income. That's what comes up for me. Like they're chasing highs and then there comes some lows and it's like there needs to be something more passive or consistent. That's just sort of what I feel and so that's why you're chasing this but yeah I'm I agree with Sam in regards to like change I think is good I was like the same company for years but I used to change my job in

that companies I think change is good I think we're here to evolve and I think like you say about your parents, that generation did work at a company till they retired. And now we're doing it differently. You can feel a bit ashamed for it sometimes. So if you are feeling that, please don't. You're doing well. But I think- Yeah. So gone. Sorry. And I was just going to say like, for example, using it in my perspective as a hairdresser, there's so much room for change and growth within that job.

And it doesn't always, like you say, it doesn't have to be this huge thing of like, oh, I've stopped that now and now I do this. You can just naturally evolve into something and add different skillsets to what it is that you're already doing. And I just think from pressure on yourself, like, oh, I've got, maybe someone else is saying to you, I don't know, like, oh, every three years you change and I can't keep up.

Yeah, trying not to put so much pressure on yourself. Like it's absolutely fine to want to enjoy doing different things. But I also think sometimes sit in the now. Yeah. And enjoy where you are and enjoy the process and not. Yeah. Look at you laughing at me.

She's smiling at me. Cause she's like, listen to your own advice. No, I was actually thinking that's really nice that you're saying that because I feel like you are doing that more. I know you're still driven, but you're definitely more in the moment. So I was like, oh, I felt proud as you said it. Yeah, that's so funny. I love it. It's good. Well, good luck to this person. You're on the right path. It's just about maybe not putting too much pressure on the path now, just letting it evolve. Go with the flow, honey.

Absolutely, babes. Okay. So also, sorry, just before I go on to that next question, I feel like me and you have really done that as well. Yeah. Like in the time that people have been listening to this podcast, like both of our jobs and our roles within our businesses have completely changed and molded. Yeah. So I think it's normal for that to happen.

Yeah, it is. And it's becoming more normal now. Cause like you say, like our parents generation was so different and we've all kind of had a different model growing up as to what I suppose success looks like or what hard work looks like and how it's rewarded. Cause it was rewarded with a pension, wasn't it? Well, it was rewarded with that commitment

that were there the whole time. And also, I was just thinking as you were speaking, the astrology now is changing. And this is kind of my prediction for in the future, when your girls are older. I don't think jobs will exist. I think that everyone will basically be an entrepreneur. I think that people will be working how we're working. I think it'll be more normal that people

will evolve, things will change. It will earn money in a way that we can't even comprehend right now. Pluto and Aquarius is doing that, So it's making things more like tech focused memberships, all that sort of stuff. But yeah, you're right. Our businesses have evolved. We've evolved. I haven't put too many labels on mine. I don't think you have really. And I think that's what's coming up for me of this person about labels. Yeah. Cause I naturally can do that. And that's kind of in my like, you do sometimes.

I've got like a masculine energy with stuff, a masculine energy, sorry, with stuff like that. And like when I wanted to stop doing hair, for example, I remember having a conversation with you about it and you were like, you don't have to announce it. Yeah. And I was like, oh, yeah. Cause I felt like I had to,

I felt like I had to put this like statement out there or like this, you know, this thing of like, oh, yeah, because I felt like I had to, I felt like I had to put this like statement out there or like this, you know, this thing of like, this is what my role is now or that was just in my own head. But yeah, you are right, you don't have to do that. Well, I have a client who has been with me from the beginning and she's really lovely and she always laughs. She goes, every time I see you,

it's like I have a whole different experience with you. It's like I've seen your evolution. She's like, but you've always just called your session an intuitive reading. Like you've not put like, okay, now this is my work and now this is my work. It's just being caveated under this one thing. I did announce I was stopping my readings, but that was just the first time I've ever really announced a change in my business. And sometimes it has to be done, but yeah, I think labels and I think Instagram does that as well. You've got to have this. Yeah, people get very caught up in that and what other people are doing as well. Absolutely. But yeah, okay, right. This one's quite interesting. So, but just say, so it's been over 20 years since I was with my first love. I'm now married. I have a child and I feel happy, but I keep

dreaming about this ex. There was never any closure and I've struggled to move on fully deeply and genuinely for 20 plus years. Please help. Wowza. Wowza's. Yeah. Wowza. Wowzers. Yeah. Wowzers, Kapowsers. Okay. So just going to see what comes through. So it says, two hearts dedicated to creating something wonderful. Don't give up on those that you love. So what comes up for me is, I don't think you should go back to your ex first of all. I think that the unfinished business is just the thing that's the issue here okay. And you see this a lot with anyone when they don't get closure. It's like you

struggle to find it yourself and it's really important that you find closure yourself. No one will ever fully give you that. And I think that like part of you isn't craving them. They're just craving the closure from them. And you're being asked to find that yourself, which is a bit more deeper and inner work. And that's why it's coming through in dreams. Now we did, I think we spoke about, I don't know, I can't remember when,

soul contracts in another episode. And people are here for a reason and they impact you for reasons. And this person, you've clearly had a soul contract and I think yours is to find the closure yourself and until you find it, they won't leave your energy. Um, I don't think you want to go back with them. And I also think sometimes we can fantasize our past. So like we can sort of have this illusion of what it was and who you were and who you are.

And sometimes it's best to leave it sort of where it is. As it was, yeah. It's in the past for a reason. Some rituals you can do to help you with closure leave it sort of where it is. As it was. It's in the past for a reason. Some rituals you can do to help you with closure would be two candles and a piece of string tied around the candles, like a figure of eight, so like longer, skinnier candles. You light both of them. You let them burn down to the string and then the string will obviously burn and it separates

it and it cuts the cord. And what you do is you focus on the fact that like this is the end of the karmic cycle, the closure is here. Like you know, you know that this is now the ending of this, this cycle. And then another way you do it is discipline, which is something we struggle with is that when the fault comes into the mind, you then let it play a story and you have to bring discipline in to stop that story happening and say, like, I release this now, this no longer serves me. Those two things will help you in a spiritual way.

Well, I clearly have been spending too much time with you or I've become psychic because I was gonna say exactly the same thing. Maybe a much less, might be a much more simpler way because I'm not as articulate as you. But yeah, I was gonna say, I feel like you, I think what you're using the relationship as an example, but it's not

the relationship, it's you at that time. And that's what you're actually looking at and thinking you want to maybe get back to, or you're romanticizing in your head and actually look at what closure do you need from yourself and what inner work do you need to do? Maybe you liked yourself a bit better than for a certain reason, I don't know. Maybe it was a time of your life or it was a job that you were doing or it was something I feel like you probably have romanticized it a lot.

And I think that I don't believe it's the person. And also just to add on, like this is a very common theme. Someone else said something about an ex in an episode before as well. They did actually, yeah. And a lot of clients confess this to me, that they feel really bad that they have a dream

or they're thinking about an ex, but it is really normal. And actually like when that happens, and I'm sure there's people listening that are like, oh God, this is me. Like there'll be lots of people that will relate. Go back to that version of you because that version of you needs some healing. So I've actually been having something about, I was messaging Sam the other day about my ex and there's, long story short, I was journaling about him, very bizarrely, because I was trying

to release some stuff. And a song came on the radio that he used to always play and say like, oh, this is like, you know, what I think of you and I love you. And it just sort of, I don't know, I had a little moment where I really thought about him and I still had some love for him. And I felt way more like, oh, that was in the past. And there was like a really nice feeling of closure and that's usually what it's asking us to do. And the closure for me was like thinking of me in that relationship and how I was like not empowered. I wasn't myself actually like it was quite

toxic and I looked at that younger version of me and just kind of gave her a hug energetically and was like, it's all right babes. So it can also be that. So that's what you find with exes, bloody men. I went to say men and exes at the same time. I said, mixes. Mixes. That was so funny. It's hard because I literally can't relate to any of this because obviously me and Andy have been together since we were literally like kids. But you do hear of it a lot. So yeah, I can only imagine.

I can't imagine like spending that much time with somebody and then just like not. So weird. Yeah, so that would be weird. So I can only imagine. And when you have like sex with someone, like you do literally like exchange energy. So then that's always there.

It's always there. So yeah, it's true. Okay, so this one is also a little bit relationshipy. So I had a toxic relationship last year, which had completely thrown me and really made me consider my future of having a relationship. How can I now start to manifest and focus on love,

on a love life and being happy for the future? Oh, that's tough. Oh, that's tough. Yeah, that's tough. So, this is a nice card. It says, congratulations, you've done a wonderful job. Time to move on to the next thing now. So there's something about you moving forward for this person with a bit of action, a bit of energy.

It kind of feels like you are ready in the energy for this person. I also do feel like you're really sensitive. This is just what's sort of coming up for me and you're very emotional and in relationships, like it can bring up a lot of that and you might not always show up as your best self because of this sensitivity.

And I think that like that's something that you'll work on, but with the right person. I think sometimes you meet the wrong person and you feel like that part of you is bad and it's like, no, if you meet the right person, they'll help you work through it. Yeah, that's kind of what comes up. Definitely. So I'd get out there. Yeah, and I think like what we've said in previous, or what I've said maybe in a previous episode as well is like, be the best version of you and then, and attract that back, you

know? Yeah. Be the person that you want to be when you meet someone. And then I think that when you do then meet someone, you'll know that you want to be when you meet someone. And then I think that when you do then meet someone, you'll know that it's a good thing. Yeah. And you'll feel like you'll naturally manifest better relationships anyway. Yeah. And also like the equinox, the eclipse is happening today and tomorrow. So when this comes out, it'll be Friday. So the eclipse will be really strong then it's happening in Virgo and it's really closing out karmic contracts from the past. So for this person, you genuinely

might shed this relationship, this toxic thing quite quickly. You might find that this eclipse releases it. I keep going to say Equinox, the equinox is next week. So like, let this time bring up that shedding and then you can move forward. And don't go back to these sex, I think they're sometimes lingering your energy. I think they try, so shut them out. Good advice.

Definitely, it's good that they recognize as well that it wasn't a good relationship. Yeah, definitely, yeah. So shut them out. Good advice. Definitely. It's good that they recognize as well that it wasn't a good relationship. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. So that is good. So you give yourself like a good pat on the back at least for that.

Good pat on the back. You know what I mean? Sometimes people are in proper toxic relationships and they've got no idea. Yeah. No, definitely. I've been there. Yeah, no, definitely. I've been there. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm starting a new career in my thirties and feel like I'm so far away from everything else I wanted thought I'd be doing, oh, and thought I'd be doing in my thirties. How do I find my own path and know that it's okay

being content with what I have? Oh, I really relate to this. Yeah. So you're basically on a path that 22 year old you didn't necessarily want. Like you're really happy that you're on it now, but like you thought maybe you'd be married with kids. That's kind of the vibe I'm getting. You've pushed your career and you're kind of, okay're on it now, but like you thought maybe you'd be married with kids.

That's kind of the vibe I'm getting. You've pushed your career and you're kind of, okay, I'll just focus on business. And I get that because I always think about my life and like never once did I want to be an entrepreneur or a nomad and all these things, but it's all happened and it's meant to have happened. I'm very happy about it. And I think that for you, you know, the energy I'm getting is you are moving forward way more than you realize. And the card I pulled was a great, it says a great deal of activity, sudden and immediate

results, important communication. There's something about you, you've been building the foundations, you're making these changes, and you're going to see results quite quickly, not just in your business, but in your personal life. I think actually the reason you've not met someone or your personal life has been affected is because you had to find some independence financially, like being more secure in yourself that you don't rely on someone. And then because it's your business and it's your passion, you won't let it go, which maybe in the past you would have let these things go, which is what I used to do.

So I really relate to this person's energy and I think that, yeah, it feels quite good for them. I also feel like be really careful as to what you consume because I think that sometimes you can compare a lot and if you're on Instagram a lot, if you're on TikTok a lot and you're looking at people that are in the situation that you want to be in and then you feel quite vulnerable and you're like, oh, but you know, I don't have that or, you know, if you're in that state of mind, then protect yourself and stop're like, oh, but you know, I don't have that or, you know, if you're in that state of mind, then protect yourself and stop seeing it,

mute those people and follow those people. Or to the Instagram for a bit because it's not healthy. And unfortunately, we have this natural urge to compare and to feel like we're not doing as well because we're seeing people who are doing maybe what it is that we want to be doing and we're not doing it. Definitely. And I just think you have to really protect yourself in that instance. And also if you're say surrounded by friends that are also in a different stage of life

to you, you need to find some other friends. That doesn't mean you stop being friends with those people, but it means find people that are on your wavelength because they do exist and there are way more of them than you think. And that also will really help you. Because being surrounded by people that aren't in your time of life right now will make it even harder for you, I think. I think that's really good advice, babes. There's someone that I wanna give you to follow if you are on TikTok. You can follow on Instagram as well.

Get off TikTok and follow everyone, but follow this person. Literally, I'm like, but follow this person. But this is what I mean by follow the right people because I do really think that that is really important. So for example, this woman is called Dior Bedica. Dior obviously spelled D-I-O-R, B-E-D-I-A-K-O. And she's a life coach.

She does an amazing podcast episode with Rochelle Humes on Ladies Who Launch. But on her TikTok, on this Dior's TikTok, she posts all about how she thought that she would be married with kids by now and she's not, she's single and she's thriving in a career, et cetera. And it's just really nice and refreshing to see.

And you know, I am someone who is 30 and married and has two kids. So I understand that you could be like, well, it's easy for you to say, you know what I mean? I get that. But I also think that it's absolutely fine to be where you are at any given time. And you have to be able to find happiness and contentness with where you are, wherever that is. Because that is the reality of it. So sitting and being upset with it isn't gonna change the reality of it.

The reality is what it is. You are single, you don't have kids and you are 30, let's just say, but what this woman's saying. That is the reality of it. Okay, well, look at your reality in a different way. You have freedom, you have flexibility, you have the option to go to a gym class and meet people or do all these things on the weekends, see it in a different perspective. And then I feel like when you

then become more content with your own life and your position, max it like as into the full, like live it to the full. And then you're going to attract more of the things that you want to get. I love that. And also like, I get it being single and you feel like there's this clock on you, especially if you want to have kids, like I'm always sort of feeling this pressure. And this woman, right, I met her a couple of weeks ago

and she said something to me and I loved it. She said, do you know what? I've started to live like a man with no timelines. And I just suddenly was like, oh my God, you see it. Like you see with men that like, because they haven't got this pressure of like the body and timelines, they do do what they want when they want. Where we have a different, like I know for example, with me,

like I have a voice in my head that's like, you're getting older, like, are you going to meet someone? And then like, I sometimes am I going to be a mom? Like some days I think, yes, some days I might, it's never going to happen. Like you have a lot of these like really heavy faults. And actually, even only a couple of weeks ago, I was talking to my astrologer about this because I was like, I'm sick of waiting and feeling like I'm waiting for my life to happen. She's like, but you're not, you're living. And I think Sam's right. You have to embrace your freedom. And we had this

conversation a lot long ago where like, I obviously have so much freedom and I really embrace my spiritual and single life, more so single life, because it won't always be like this. So go and fucking smash it with your business and be really successful and make a shitload of money. And I bet you, your life will evolve in ways that you can't imagine and you would have built a life, the future you will be going, thank you so much imagine and you would have built a life that future you will be going, thank you so much for everything you did when you had time and energy. So yeah.

Yeah, I concur. Absolutely. I do think it's really important though to watch who you follow on social media, et cetera, if you are on it a lot. I follow people all the time. Yeah same I do but also mute because you know if I don't know for whatever reason but yeah I do think it's important to really just protect your energy think of yourself in a little bubble and protect that bubble. Amen sister. Okay so last one should we do one more? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Hi, little wave, so hi girl. You're shooting this again.

After more than 10 years abroad, we're moving back to the UK. I'm looking for a new career direction and I'm also worried about my marriage as we're not getting along very well at the moment. Do you have any advice on how to navigate this stressful time? I also have two teenagers to consider. Thank you. Babes, does sound a lot. That is definitely a lot. Okay, let's see what card we've got.

Okay we've got two. So we have got some perspective. This is what this card says. It says, there's a better way. Pause for a reflection and insight and dare to be different. And then the other card is there's light at the end of the tunnel, breathe a sigh of relief and make new plans. And it actually says relocation or travel. So it's obviously picked up on that. Yeah, which is nice. Okay. This is what comes up for me. Like just it easy. It is bumpy in your energy.

I can feel that and I feel like you feel quite fearful, but it is going to be okay. Things are going to smooth out. You just need to be a bit patient. And I think that with your relationship right now, both your nervous systems are in fight or flight. So there's not much space for emotional connection and energy. And sometimes that's what's needed to get through a change or a transition. So be comfortable with the fact that fine, it might be a bit edgy, it might be a little bit uptight, but that's kind of what's needed to get you through this phase. I think your relationship is fine.

Obviously, having teenage kids is difficult because there's going to be even more emotions. The astrology this year is crazy. I've been saying this for a while. So we're all going to feel these big transformations. But I think you need to put yourself first more. I kind of feel like this person's neglecting themselves. I feel like you're giving everything to your husband and your kids because of this change and you're worried about them and you've not even thought about yourself and you've not

sort of said, like, I just need a minute. Like who's holding me? Like I kind of feel like you're holding everything up, you're doing everything and like no one's got you and you're feeling a bit unsupported. Go on, Sam, you're doing everything and like, no one's got you and you're feeling a bit unsupported. Go on Sam, you're nodding. No, I'm just agreeing with you completely. What I was gonna say is I don't feel like your relationship's in jeopardy either. I feel like you're just going through a hard time.

Yeah. There's so many things to consider right now and that's not at the top of your priority and that's absolutely normal and that's fine. and you and your husband just need to sit down and have a conversation openly and you can say, you know, I recognize that we have been at each other a little bit recently, you know, maybe making like sharp digs at one another or, you know, how it is like when I know how it is when you've been with someone for a very long time, they can just do something one day that you're just like,

why have you done that? You know, and you just, you're like, you know what I mean? You lose your cool over something which is so small. I'm thinking about when Andy at the girls' snacks when they were babies and you were fuming. Yes, yeah, exactly. And I was like, they can only eat those snacks and you're eating their snacks.

Like, and it was such a small thing, but it just wound me up. But that's what I'm saying. It's normal to get like that and just have an open communication with your husband and say, I recognize this state that we're in and it's not gonna be like this forever. And I still love you. And let's get through it together

and have that little conversation. But also again, like what Jess has said, if you need a bit more support, then tell him because you do sound like you're considering everybody else and maybe not yourself and that actually happens when you become a mum anyway. But I think just slow it down, look at everything from a different angle maybe.

Well, it does say that in the card, a different perspective. Oh, really? Oh, there you go. Yeah. I think the husband's got mood swings. That just comes through to me. So I feel like you're a bit on eggshells. Go on. If that's the case, I would say just remove yourself then in that, I don't mean to do all that. Remove yourself from that situation. So if he has a mood swing, for example, take yourself out of it.

So if you know that he gets aggy on, I don't know, if he's not been to the gym or something like that, then just be like, you go to the gym for an hour, or I'm gonna go for a walk and just remove yourself from that situation rather than investing yourself in it and getting yourself worked up. It's like looking after yourself in that sense because that's not easy if somebody gets in mood swings.

But I can remember, this is really funny now looking back on it, I can remember right when I'd had the girls and my mom was living with us and she was with us for like six weeks. And one of us would get up through the night to do, sorry, two of us, I can't even remember now, but we'd get up in the night anyway and do the night feed, but there was a feed at like 10 PM, 11 PM and then there was a feed at like 2 AM or whatever. Andy and my mum were in the kitchen saying to each other,

you go to bed early. Oh no, you go to bed early and not do this feed. Obviously I was doing the feed regardless, but the two of them were like, no, you go to bed early. And I literally looked at the two of them and I was like, excuse me, like, what about me here? And is it just given that I'm the one doing the feed? Like, brand mama were bottle feeding, do you know what I mean?

So I could have gone to sleep technically, I mean, I was pumping, but still, I remember sitting there and thinking, what the fuck? But you do have to speak up and say things, because if you're the type of person that everyone thinks is always okay and just gets on with stuff, then you gotta speak up for yourself and say,

and you love it, help it. And as women, I think we carry that role so well, where we just get on with it, we make sure everyone else is okay. And this is like the conditioning that we've been taught, that we put ourselves last. And it's like, hell no. Like when you give yourself what you need,

you will show up better. So this babes, you need a coffee on your own with no one like talking to you. I feel like you need to go for more walks and just have a little bit of you time to just be and to just not have to worry about other people. So yeah. I've literally just started every evening pretty much now.

I go for a walk. As soon as the girls are down, I just go for a walk. And I go for sometimes 30 minutes, sometimes 40 minutes, sometimes even longer. But I just have to have that time. And it just helps me so much. Yeah, now I get that. It's important.

Yeah, it's definitely important. So yeah, take a bit of time for yourself, honey. Love it, babes, love it. Well, I loved that. Shall I pull a card for you? Oh my God, please, go on. I wanna pull one for me as well. Okay.

Okay. So Sam's card is. Oh God, nervous now. A wonderful new idea. Don't allow bumps in the road to hinder your progress. Clear up communication problems with others. Interesting. So that's like new stuff, but like it might feel a bit like maybe Mercury retrograde could

bring a few little bumps, clear up communication if there's any issues of communication and then yeah. Does it resonate? It's weird because I feel, well, I don't feel like I have any communication issues currently. So I wouldn't say with that. Maybe you cleared them up the other day with the bits that were going on. Yeah, true. Yeah, maybe.

Yeah, maybe I've already done that. But we are looking into hiring, so that could be part of that. Okay, I have got an exciting new challenge. You have what it takes to succeed, review contracts or documents very thoroughly. Well, I am trying to say that's pretty spot on because yeah, I'm sorting out business

set up and things in the next couple of months and it's an exciting new challenge and I'm pleased that I have what it takes to succeed. Thank you Spirit for all your messages today because do you know what? There's a positive energy there. There's a feeling of hope and positivity that I'm very grateful that everyone received. So good job Spirit. Good job Sam. Good job me. Absolutely. Go and go. Good job, Sam. Good job, me. Absolutely. Thank you so much for listening to this week's episode of Spiritually Speaking. Please, please, please send in your questions because we love reading them out. We love doing that bit. So

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