Spiritually Speaking with Jessica & Samantha - TGH 2.0, living in a monastery and a special guest

Episode Date: July 12, 2024

Learn about Sam’s big moves business and Jess’s decisions on how to regain focus.  The Green House is growing and Jess is jumping into spirituality more than ever before in this episode! You definitely don’t want to miss this. The girls are joined by a special guest at the end who knows Sam better than anyone else. Don’t forget to like rate and subscribe to the podcast it helps us grow and know how much you love each episode.To follow us we are @spirituallyspeaking_podcast @jessicamarie_holistic @hairbysamanthagreen

Hello and welcome back to Spiritually Speaking. I'm just too excited. I feel excited. I feel really hyped up. I know, I do. I'm like, I've got my coffee ready and we're just ready to go. Yes. I can do this. I am Sam, she is Jess and we're ready to start the podcast. Let's go, go, go. Oh my my god do you know what I'm not on the same vibe as us right now than you're about to be yeah or if not come back a different day yeah do you know what I woke up a little bit like flat this morning and all of a sudden the energy's arrived about half an hour before you messaged I was like here we go here we go yeah I was exactly the same I woke up like oh my god I'm so tired like Yeah, I was exactly the same. I woke up like, oh, my God, I'm so tired.

And, yeah, I was exactly the same. So, yeah, things can change. Doesn't mean that you wake up one way, that's the way your day's got to be. Amen, sister. Amen, honey. How has your week been? Oh, babes, it's been great. I am loving life.

So I have arrived in Chiang Mai which is very cool in Northern Thailand I love how you like know where everything is now you're like I'm in Northern Thailand and it's bougie the coffee's bougie which has set my soul on fire because I'd shit coffee for five weeks oh I went to Spain for three weeks last summer and I had a shit coffee that like the coffee was shit the whole time I was there. So I've stayed in places where you've had breakfast and it's basically like a hot cup of milk. Oh.

Yeah. And I was just like, this is not like, I've genuinely just. Not the vibe. I wouldn't say I'm a coffee snob, but I would say that like my coffee is part of my ceremony in the morning. You appreciate it.

That's my thing I really appreciate a nice cup of coffee like it really makes me happy yeah it does makes me happy it's a great addiction um so I've been enjoying exploring the coffee shops I arrived here on um sunday so i've had such i've had such a good week my friend was out from the uk my friend lisa who i absolutely love and she um she's just brilliant like we just get on so well and she's a coach as well and we're both just at such similar phases of life and we just that's so good it's just the most wholesome friendship and it's a friendship that I made like probably only about three years ago when I set up my business came to me as a client um so like it was just really nice she was one of your friends from home she is from home but she's a couple of school years older than

me um and we just yeah became friends through she came for a reading and then and then she was like we've connected on a whole other level and I was like babes I felt the same and then well to be fair that's how we became friends well I was gonna say a lot of friends have come through readings um you know I'm pleased I lacked professional boundaries then because all of you are very important to me I feel like I have a few more boundaries now yeah if you're trying to now become Jess's mates or flux sorry I feel like now I'm closed you're at capacity you all got me when I was vulnerable that's so bad like I am exactly the same like this is why I've not really gone to any mum groups because I'm like I ain't got time like for to make new

friends and that's awful but I'm the type of person where I want to be that I want to be that person that someone needs and I don't have enough ability to give I don't have any more like space for that yeah you know I think so like while I've been traveling I haven't actually made many friends which loads people are like oh you'll make loads of friends and it's not that I don't want to make friends it's the commitment of having a friend um that is overwhelming for me so like I basically like I know we obviously spoke at this age to go on the friendship pod but whats WhatsApp is like the most overwhelming element of my life. And if WhatsApp didn't exist, I think I would probably be like 20%, like I wouldn't say happier, but more free in my mind.

Like WhatsApp burdens me. And I feel awful. I've actually just messaged pretty much all my school girls one by one this morning while walking to get my coffee because I was like, oh, actually, you know, I've got a bit of capacity. I want to check in. But it's like it's hard to manage friendships, especially when you have like different locations, the UK, Dubai. And obviously traveling is quite nice because everyone's noncommittal, quite like that. You know, you sort of have a really great day with someone then they're not pressuring to see you again because you're going elsewhere um so yeah I definitely yeah it's it's a funny one isn't it

yeah it really is I think that's a I completely agree with you um yeah I I definitely do struggle with stuff like that but I find that for me I don't know why like I don't actually find whatsapp that overwhelming but I am such like uh it's like I live on a treadmill and my brain is going even faster on the treadmill than my body is so like when people see me text they literally are like what the fuck is going on because I'm like the way I text like I literally can like fire them out like yeah quick text like as soon as you know what I mean like so so so fast so it doesn't actually overwhelm me to be fair what's up but I just always want to be a good

friend and I always feel a bit like oh you know if I haven't been yeah yeah I don't always feel like I'm a good friend to be honest like I feel like there's people that will get like a lot of my capacity so like you do like my friend Lisa like my sisters are my best friends and like I do talk to them all the time and like obviously my friend Risa as well I talk about like I've got like people in my life at the moment who are like my like I will reply quite quickly and then it's not like it sounds awful like a tear system but like I genuinely will be talking to people every day because of everyday stuff and then there's the friends at home where it's a catch-up I think that's so normal though I think it's so normal and mine's exactly the same yeah it's who

you've got who are more relevant in your life at that time like you just said your friend that you've been that's been away with you you've got loads in common with her so of course you're going to be speaking to her more one of your friends at home who's maybe got two kids and is maybe staying at home or more something like that it's not that you don't love her as much it's just that maybe you don't have as much in common with her right now and I find that they're more like five minute like tell me about the last month of your life and it's lovely and then like I then want to actually make the time to reply when I've got capacity so it might be that there's a delay so yeah there is you are different to me though because you're you don't procrastinate I do so I yeah that's true

like I procrastinate over whatsapp. Yeah, that's true. I procrastinate over WhatsApp, but obviously my business is on WhatsApp. That will be changing just to know I am setting up. I'm at the final stages of this online booking system. Fabulous. So then I think that's where the drain's coming from. But anyway, that's really boring.

So I don't know if I'll be starting chatting about this. I don't either. We completely digress. But you know what? It doesn't matter't matter how else has your week been have you been doing anything else I've done my god you had a reading I did I had a tarot reading I loved it she was so funny so I arrived in Chiang Mai like lunchtime Sunday and on the Sunday evening is like the weekly night market and it's unbelievable like it's not just food that I have bought so many clothes here because it's just you know like linen obviously I love linen but like you know the cheesecloth linen like that sort of um oh it's just oh it's just babes you need to just fill up your wardrobe here and bring it back because some of the outfits I've got like in Dubai would cost you

like 500 dirham and this yeah like it was like 30 dirham and it's such good quality and it's all embroidered I know I know oh my god my next holiday is definitely going to be tailored you've got to do it you've got to do it there's loads of families here make it work yeah so um so I did that anyway I that this is where like obviously I know I'm psychic but I do sometimes surprise myself so that day I was googling like astrologers in Chiang Mai Akashic record readers because I thought you know what I feel like there's some downloads coming so and I haven't done that since being here and I saw a couple and I was like like it's not sticking it'll come anyway was at the market went to a crystal store got a new crystal that I'm wearing on my necklace it's a um jade don't normally wear jade yeah and it's a heart and I

thought well that's nice by my heart um and then the next store was this lovely lady with her tarot cards and I thought this babe is for me and we had the best time so basically she didn't speak English so we had to use google translate um so the first thing she said was like oh you're a gypsy tarot reader and I was like babes yeah my mum always says we're gypsies and I do think there is the gypsy in us, like the Roman gypsy. So I was like, yep, that makes sense. And then she was like, you're working very hard and you've got lots of decisions to make in your life. You're really trying to work a lot out.

And I was like, I am, babes. And then it just went on to my love life, which was so um my husband's definitely gonna be richer than me and he's gonna be my soul mate um feel like that that was really funny as well but I also think that I know I saw you post it on Instagram like I know I'm all for you know being independent and everything yeah but I'm really happy about this there's nothing like that's not a bad thing do you know what I mean I feel like I had a boyfriend that didn't earn as much money and and he was also bless him just not the most like hard worker so I don't actually think it's about money it's the work ethic yeah and I feel like I was a bit traumatized by the lack of work ethic and that's probably associated with money now but um yeah fuck it you know what

you want to be looked after you know but you know so we were laughing about that and then she was talking about a couple of past energies and was like if you marry him you will be depressed and unhappy and I literally was laughing so much because she was just so blunt and I went yeah I think I would have been she said don't go there she goes maybe over time it would work but for a long time you'd be depressed I thought right babes I hear you um and then thanks for being so honest yeah and then she said to me it was actually really sweet she was like you're gonna have two children two sons and she said because of all the work you're doing now your children will come

into this world and be really happy on her house so nice she was like they'll be so happy and then um she well she said to me that I have to continue this work forever um and she said I have to come back to Dubai because there's lots of women that need me in Dubai um so I can't yeah she's like so you can't neglect them um she said because women there need your help and that's part of your role here and I was like yeah no I understand that um and she was like and you just keep doing this work and your husband he's coming I was like well as long as you know there's a husband and some babies at some point which do you know what guys that's what most of you come and see me for and we're all human and even me that sits on the other side sometimes needs a lovely little Thai lady with some cards to just reassure me that I'm on track um yeah so it was it was really sweet but

then this man came along who also is a tarot reader from Bangkok in the Thai army very random he came and sat next to us I assume they knew each other they'd never met each other before and he was helping us translate and we had a great time and then this lovely Irish guy came and sat next to me who's a Pisces and just listened to my whole reading and he just found it hilarious so it was just like yeah it was just one of those thing about traveling isn't it you just attract people from here there and everywhere and yeah I don't know like it's just it's just nice like that would never happen in any other situation well this is it like he like bless him he was really sweet and he was like very camp and very emotional and he was like oh my god you're just me and then I was like

are you a Pisces he was like I am and he's like how do you know and I was like oh I do psychic as well and he was like I need to see you you need to read for me and I was like oh no like go to her but then maybe like if you don't get what you need is me Instagram yeah and yeah you know I can't take her business you'll be like yeah yeah yeah so yeah so that it was really good but like it was just really lovely and then I also um went to a temple in Krabi and oh my goodness it was probably the hardest experience of my life getting up these stairs it's called the tiger cave if anyone's been um you'll understand but it was like something ridiculous like it sounds like really easy that 1200 steps up if I see that

number I'd be like yeah easy I'll do 10,000 steps a day whatever but what are we talking steps as in right an incline and honestly some of these steps were like as high as like 60 centimeters like two rulers like you had to hold on to the rail because they were so steep and and the depth was like 10 centimeters so like wow honestly I was like this is ridiculous I didn't have a clue what we signed up for I've never sweated so much in my life like I was actually thinking like this is great for water retention like shed the toxins we had a really nice group um but I hated every minute of it like honest to god oh did you have to then get back down as well yeah like downstairs yeah yeah I did I can't put it on socials the video because it's so like it's so

funny but like I look like my friend and my sister were like the pain in your eyes that just says it all like I literally was like this is hell and obviously it was hot it was like humid like luckily like there was no chafing I had the right clothes on that could have been like I was just about to say that did you have the right clothes yeah because for me it's the shoes it's like well I had my trainers the right shoes on there's people wearing flip-flops I was like Jesus Christ so yeah and then we got to the top and admittedly the view was unbelievable and do you know what it was worth it I just wish they had a cable car like I just thought why do you know what I mean I would

have definitely taken the cable car option um so got to the top the view was incredible I will do a reel at some point of the because I've got some nice when you're over it when I'm over I wish I got more on the stairs but I couldn't because I was just like this is horrendous um got to the big Buddha I literally got on my knees and was like mate I've done a lot of self-development a lot of work I'm now saying I've just done these stairs I think I'm ready for a nice man in my life and I want my business to continue growing and I literally just went for it and Lisa did the same and I was thinking I don't think this is actually the concept of Buddhism because it's all about

attachment that's the problem and I was like well I'm very attached to some things so yeah so we we probably sat there for a good three or four minutes praying um and I'd say it felt like a good energy I felt quite emotional not necessarily from the steps just how beautiful it was so yeah it was good and it's now made me decide and I don't know if we'll have an episode next week because I'm going to go into the monastery for a week and live with the monks are you actually honest to god I'm gonna go and volunteer I'm buzzing what does that entail so sleeping on a yoga mat for a week in like a room with sleeping on a yoga mat because of this so the whole concept obviously about buddhism

which doesn't align and obviously I'll tell everyone more once I learn more because I actually don't know loads I'm starting to feel connected to it being here is about how like we're attached to everything so we're always attached to the outcome which is definitely the case especially in my readings everyone's coming to me because they're so focused on the outcome so um so it's about that and it's also about suffering which makes sense of the steps like we only grow through suffering you know in life there is suffering and it's because we're always focusing on the like so those stairs the reason I suffered was because there was an outcome at the top which was the

Buddha which was this beautiful view which is like like this concept. So yeah, it just really resonated with me. So there's a place in Shanghai, which is a couple of hours further up Northern Thailand. It's here on a map. Yeah. And yeah, basically this is the gist I've got. I'll share more with everyone. We'll do an episode on it.

So 7am is your first meal and 11am is your last meal. I know. Oh my God. Can you drink water after that? I don't know. I want to do it properly. There is a shop nearby that someone said, but I might...

Sal's 8 Coke. want to do it properly there is a shop nearby that someone said but I might say it coke I'll be getting like all my crisps and snacks secret eating do they provide the food or do you choose your food that you eat so the whole um element with monks is that their food's donated from people so people people are blessed when they donate food to monks so you'll be eating donated food um which yeah that would be anything i guess hopefully someone donates like a mcdonald's they like lovely please i like them chicken nothing for cheeseburger okay not large fries and cheeky buggers um so okay yeah I think you should do it wait in that time are you gonna have like no phone then I take it so this girl that did like a whole blog on it was using her phone to record some of them don't let you this one looks like it does but what I am

gonna do is have an automatic reply oh any of my clients that are listening they're regulars that I will communicate with you that over that period I won't be available um obviously for an emergency I would be um mum my mum was like oh jeez you're gonna have to give her my number I don't know I was like mum I'm not going prison like literally the way she she's like am I gonna be able to get a hold of you I was like yeah don't worry and I do I'm very conscious to like communicate with my parents daily just so they know I'm alive bless them because I just know that they will be happier when they have communication with me um so yeah so basically you do like mantra in the morning

like so you do all your chanting you do meditation you do silent walks and then you do like so and you do lots of learning obviously you sit with the monks and they teach you all about buddhism you help them with learning english like it's all a bit you know and then you do like jobs in the afternoon so like gardening or cleaning and then you go and do more meditation and prayer and then go to bed with all your mates on a yoga mat that's gonna be hard yeah I think go for it yeah I'm buzzing I'm excited for you to do it I think it'll be great I think it'll be extremely transformative and so yeah rather you than me as well yeah I think everyone's like oh when I called my sister she's like that's interesting and I was like that's not for me but and someone else was like one of my mates was like oh are you doing any

retreats that I'll come and join and I was like yeah I'm going to the monastery and she's like yeah no fuck that I ain't going to the monastery she's like I'm thinking bougie hotel yoga I might see the babes so yeah so watch this space guys I shall confirm when I go and then we'll do an episode and you'll get all the deets I'm sure you'll all be invested in that adventure be quite funny maybe after these daily blogs yeah hide the camera set myself up or even if you're allowed to write like write it down what happens each day I think they let you write okay good I just don't know like how Amish are we talking you know I think it's just like they want you to experience it but they're not maybe they are really strict I don't know but I think it's like just don't have your phone all the time yeah that they are really strict I don't know but I think it's

like just don't have your phone all the time yeah that sort of thing but I don't want to I want to actually switch off from yeah of course if you're going to do it do it properly yeah anyway so that's me so all good very happy but anyway Samantha you've got quite a lot going on my girls so do you want to update everyone on your next endeavor because nothing is normal in the world of sam ever ever um i have yeah a big announcement i suppose um which i have just posted on my greenhouse 2.0 how exciting and where is greenhouse 2.0 the greenhouse 2.0 is really really far away and it's next door amazing so it's next door to my current salon yeah I love it and does that mean that there will be some walls being knocked down or what are you doing yeah so basically the backstory of kind of how it happened um is I was not intending this like there was there was absolutely zero intention really to begin with of this

happening or so many people say it to you like oh do you think you'll ever get a second salon I always just said I don't know like I never say never but it's not on my wavelength like right now especially with obviously everything that I've had going on over the last year um and then I went to the Pilates studio that I go to I went to their second studio and she opened her first one the same time as my salon and I was like oh wow this is amazing like it's incredible um you've done so well so you know to be opening up a second still didn't really think about my second salon you did message me and was like oh this has really inspired me and it was just like a like yeah

more just like good for her that's amazing and like oh like something stuck there yeah there was inspiration and I say I want this it was just like wow I'm so inspired by her it's incredible what she's created um yeah it was more from an inspiration point of view and then I had to go and pick something up in the new area that I live and when I was picking it up like one of the deeds for the house I was like oh this would be a good place for a salon like look at all this free parking it's such a beautiful area so when I was there picking it up I just said oh um do you have any spaces here like retail outlets and she um available and she was like yeah and she

said just email this person and I was like okay and she went why what would you put her and I said a hair salon and she was like oh okay and then she like smiled at me and she said do you already have a hair salon I said yeah anyway and then I emailed um this person and um after I'd emailed them they said that there wasn't anything available so I was like okay no worries it's obviously not meant to be um and that was that I didn't really think anything else of it and then Leah who's my manager at the salon text me and said next door are moving out and I was like what I said are you sure and she was like yeah they're moving out so she went in and asked them and they were like yeah we're leaving so then I text my agent who works between me and the landlord and I said is shop

eight available and he said yeah and I said is it done by the same landlord and he said yeah and I was like right okay that's interesting so it's done by the same landlord so then I said well you know where where are you up to what's going on type thing and he was like look I have got someone who's interested but we would rather one tenant I was like right okay so then she sent me a video of it she went in and sent me a video and I was like yeah that looks great and then I still was just like oh I just don't know and I think it's really hard because I think when you go to open a second business although you already know that your first business is successful, it feels like there's a lot more to lose this time than there was the first time.

I understand that. Yeah, first time round, it was like, right, I'm a busy hairdresser, I'm fully booked. So I know that if I move to a new location, I'm still gonna be fully booked and hopefully I'll get other staff and then it'll be busy you know and it'll be successful and then obviously thankfully it was very successful and now opening up a second one it requires double the staff and maybe even more than that

and I already have so many staff now that I need to continue paying continue keeping happy um so it does feel like a lot more to lose but in the same vein I also have to remember like I've done it once now and also it's a lot more to gain yeah that's true a lot more to lose a lot more to gain that's very true and you're also like you've learned so much from the first part of greenhouse 1.0 that's what we've been called it 1.0 2.0 like you've learned loads and I think when you this is just my perception of you on a business and spiritual level 1.0 was like right this is what I want for me and I want to share it and what's happened over the last two years is you've just leveled up and become

like a strategic businesswoman so like you've shifted now so it's like there's a change you're still a very very good hairdresser but you're also you have a different mindset now and that's why you can do this you know it's completely changed yeah like I feel like what I envisioned for the salon when I first opened it has stayed the same in a sense of what I wanted to create but it has completely changed now in a sense of like the staff that I look for yeah yeah that has really changed it has really changed you're a different person to when that business started completely different person and I was really holding on to a lot of past experiences that I was really like trying to not repeat and trying to I don't know like I was I was very hindered by a lot of my past experiences in working in salons um and I also took a lot away from them in a good way

you know it's not all bad um but I think I've now learned my own way of doing things yeah definitely I think it's rather than just trying to do it differently to someone else or the same, you know what I mean? Yeah. I think when your motive, first of all, is like, I'm going to do it differently. That's brilliant. And then I think what happens over time is you then find you and your way. Yeah.

So the motive is more about you than being different to what you experience, whatever your experiences are. And I think people do that even when they're a boss, like even if they haven't got a business but they're a manager, they're like, oh, I learned from this manager and this manager and I'm going to do this differently. So I think it's like, yeah, but I just think, yeah. You should evolve with time.

Yeah, I am really excited. What are you, so I don't know, obviously we haven't spoken for a few days I know we spoke a lot about different ideas and whatever are you at a point where you're going to share anything about the spaces or what are you thinking on that side you don't have to say yeah um you know what I don't really know I suppose so yeah I think nothing has been 100% finalized yeah yeah like it's it's pretty finalized but I will be honest in a sense that my brain is constantly changing with it um because like I say it wasn't planned so it's not a case of I always thought oh wow if I got next door I'd do

this or you know so it came very quickly um and again I'm just trying to work out the logistics of everything in terms of gaining the space and how best to use it and because over here like when I was speaking to people and they were like wow it moved really quick and I'm like nobody has to here because that shop had gone like that and it's like yeah actually seen it one day and two or three days later I had it because you have to like sign on the dotted line so quickly whereas like at home I think that would have been a really long drawn out process well like shops can be empty for months in like the high streets at home and stuff where here it's like but yeah people have got money to spend and yeah this is to grow yeah

and there literally was another woman there like who she'd already had fit had um people gone in to like measure it up for a fit out but they I was just lucky that because I had next door they wanted one tenant so you know you have to move quick but then obviously as soon as you sign on the dotted line you're paying rent so as soon as you're paying rent you need to get the shop open and you know so then the ideas have to come quickly so it has been quite it's felt like a bit of a pressure cooker I'll be honest like to make those decisions what's felt like quite quickly um and that has been a little bit difficult um I am adding in another 10 hair stations so I currently have 10 hair stations there's going to be 10 new ones and there's obviously going to be new back washes there's

going to be a new color area where they mix color there's going to be a new staff room there's going to be um another space which is going to be slightly different which I won't speak about just yet I'll keep that um under wraps but there's going to be a new space which is going to be slightly different which I won't speak about just yet I'll keep that um under wraps but there's going to be a new space which is exciting um and then maybe some different services will be added as well nice yeah so why don't you go on a more emotional level of those that are listening what's the vision of greenhouse for you like hair like what's important like you know you always talk to me about your likes about good hairstylists. The best of the best. God, it's weird when you say that because I never ever think of it like that.

And as soon as you just said that to me, I felt like this weird feeling come over me. It's really strange. What was the feeling? Tell me. What did it feel like? I don't know. I just feel, I feel very, God, I did not expect this. This is really, really weird.

No, it's just, I feel very um god I did not expect this this is really really weird um no it's just I don't know I think it's just come out of left field a bit no one's ever really asked me that do you know what I mean um the feeling of the greenhouse is what I've always strived to create was somewhere where people just felt comfortable people people feel happy, people feel inspired, they feel motivated. And I mean that by a client and someone who works there. Like I want it to be that experience for everyone who's in there. I'm so, it's so important to me that people feel comfortable. And when I say comfortable, I mean, in a sense that they can be who they are. Yeah. And that is why when I say comfortable I mean in a sense that they can be who they are yeah and that is why when I am hiring I do hire a specific person because it's not that you know you have to have blonde hair you've got to have brown hair that's you know that's not the point but what I

mean is I need someone who is comfortable in themselves or knows what it is that they want and they will flourish in that environment I'm not having it where someone who's just coming in because they need somewhere to work or you know they just want to go in and go out like that's not what it is it's creating this environment that's a team that works really really well together that builds each other up that's supportive that is there for one another that can have a laugh that yeah it's it's like a real like team environment it really is it's a feeling and that's why it's sometimes so hard to explain because it is definitely a feeling and yeah um go on tell me what we can i was gonna say like i like from what you've said like i obviously feel that but i'll like reiterate it back to you to get a sense and if any feels

come in your body but i i feel for greenhouse what you're saying is whether you're a member of staff or a client the minute you walk through that door it's a safe space you know yeah it's a feeling of like oh okay and then it comes to our hair like we're all so self-conscious as women it's such a you know it's hard being a woman looking in the mirror yeah and having this experience and I feel as though from the minute you step foot even when you send a booking request or you know there's just a whole customer experience that's really lovely and flows and you feel really cared for and I know your girls feel like that as well that work for you it's not just

we look after our clients and girls just get on with the job it's very much a whole you know a whole thing and also from my perspective with any business with culture like you know if you want your business to have a feeling you start with your staff you don't pretend that that's like if you don't prioritize that and you just sort of prioritize the look and whatever it will never ever have a feeling but like what you've done and I think that's when you say about your recruitment it's not about have a feeling but like what you've done and I think that's when you say about your recruitment it's not about like a look but it is about people being on board with your values and values are really important for a culture as well and people obviously feel that so

it's lovely it's amazing um but I also think you have a high standard and I think that's really important about the greenhouse is that like you are there to do a good job. And yeah, you know, you're not just sort of here to just have lots of people. You want the best people and the right people. And I think that's lovely. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I always say like I can teach someone to be a great hairdresser.

I can't teach someone to be a great person. Yeah. can teach someone to be a great hairdresser I can't teach someone to be a great person yeah so like I need whenever I meet someone um like to interview them I have to get a feeling from them I've got to get that like that feeling that I enjoy being around them or that they're like I say they're a kind person um because it really does go a long way and I think sometimes as well that's why I can get so um strong in my boundaries with clients where if they're then rude to my staff or they just have this kind of negativity or they're just a bit hostile I'm like no you're not coming you're not like that's not we don't bring that through the door I don't give that to my staff like that's not what we have here and I have turned away a lot of clients for that reason and it's not met well do you know what I mean like it's it's met with a lot of um a reaction from it

and I don't care because the thing is I want to protect them I also think that like if I was getting my hair done and someone was being rude to the staff like that would really ruin my experience and obviously you can't control that but things like that make me really uncomfortable and I usually want to step in for some injustice that's happening and I think when you can sort of manage that and and do that then that's amazing obviously you can't always stop it there's always going to be the odd plonker but I think but I think you're attracting the right people as well though babes so like the energy yeah I hope so yeah I hope so yeah it's interesting because I was thinking as well about that more on a spiritual level what was coming up for you because you know

when people say everything happens for a reason it really does but it also makes me think like spirit do get in the way in a lovely way so like you went to the launch of the second business of your friend and you're like oh my god like this inspired me and it's like yeah okay right we've activated right activation done and it's like okay cool yeah and then because that activation's happened it's basically planting a seed isn't it and that's what I find with a lot of my clients when they come to me I'm just like right let's plant the seed you know it's opened up a channel that we didn't know existed before and I think as soon as you activate that spirit

are like right let's go so then in the meantime that's all happening next door but you're unaware and then your brain is like going logical so it's like ah town square okay this is a nice area you know blah blah but then there's a blocker and you're like oh it's just not meant to be and you know and you surrender to that and then obviously next door was available and I just feel like behind the scenes spirit are just working their magic for us all but what we have to do is just activate that moment of inspiration and that's what you did so well done yeah yeah I think it definitely has like you say it all happened for a reason um and I am really excited about it like I'm you know what's really nice now is I am really excited about it. Like, you know, what's really nice now is I am actually starting to feel excited about it.

I think for a while I was feeling a bit like heavy with it because I was just like, fuck, I've got to make all these decisions and all these payments and things like that and seeing more that side of it. But in actual fact, like I am really excited now. And I think it has obviously felt a little bit concerning as well because I'm

literally going to the UK tomorrow for, I don't know how many weeks, like at least a month. And a lot of the work is going to be done in that time while I'm away, but I've got a good contractor who I've got a good relationship with. So I'm a manager, Leah is there, like it's going to be fine. Um, but yeah, it's, it's really exciting. and I just want to continue to grow on this business that I've built and like I say this feeling and continue it and hope that yeah it's successful really it will be you know it will be I think it's just at the moment it's the like you say you're a bit overwhelmed it's decisions it's my it's the very human element of this so like the emotion comes in I feel excited it's there then you're

like oh fuck like there's the practical side and I think sometimes we all forget about the practical side or we dwell on it too much and that's why we don't do things but you know this is really bold in my opinion that it's really brave and when we're bold and brave, we do get rewarded. And, you know, I think within no time you'll be like, oh, my God, this was the best thing ever. And it will just be incredible. And the future you will be so grateful for these bold decisions that you've made because you've got the energy now.

Like, okay, I know you've got the girls and life's busy but you thrive off this and I do I do thrive off this I can remember being in lockdown obviously this is going back like four years now but I can remember I can remember being in lockdown and going to bed and not feeling a single bit tired right because I'd done nothing all day like we I was in Dubai during lockdown we couldn't even go for a walk I was I was doing two um Courtney Black HIIT workouts a day in my apartment like to try and burn energy like I was on a good place and I remember going to bed and being so um I missed so much that feeling of like pure exhaustion of like my feet like throbbing and like pure exhaustion I really missed it and like I'll always remember that because then I feel like I've always after that never taken for granted when I am so busy yeah because I'm like I actually do thrive in

these situations now one thing I would say is I've never been diagnosed with ADHD, but I remember Andy once making a comment like it was a joke. It was just like, oh, my God, she's definitely got ADHD. And I remember after he said it going, oh, shit, that would make so much sense. You know, literally, it was like a light bulb went off in my head. He said it during lockdown because that was when he'd really noticed it. And I was like, fuck, maybe that's what it is. Anyway, I've never I've never like say I've never actually taken that any further I don't think I need to but in these situations it's so heightened like I am spinning a million plates at once

and that's when I find that sometimes I'm a bit like oh shit I struggle to then actually take a breath yeah well I think that neurodivergent behavior which is obviously for women with ADHD like I think a lot of us do like I definitely have some symptoms um like procrastination can be one as well for women with ADHD so it's like there's so many different I think we're all on the spectrum basically 100% we all are yeah and like my belief this is so many different i think we're all on the spectrum basically 100 we all are yeah and like my belief this is like completely irrelevant what we're talking about but even like autism i always say like anyone with autism is from the future i feel like they're so know so much more than we do and they're so wise um and they're living in a world where like it's like

we don't understand like it's and then I think with ADHD it's more that hypersensitive thing and we all have it and it's all our superpowers it's just that society can be a bit um judgmental and so with that it's your superpower however it can then consume us yeah so like what I would say to you if you was my client I'd be like babe this is all fucking great but what are we doing to keep grounded like what are we doing are you doing your walks I know you do take the girls out for walks in the morning but like you know are you making time for like a bath at the end of the day where you are disciplined and not thinking about 2.0 and what

you're doing and you actually just focus on you how your body feels and just relaxing the bath even if that's just 10 minutes you know because what happens is we get so sucked into like the fast pace of life that we don't slow down and even if we're on our phone we're not slowing down I do that like I've noticed that I'm not coming back to myself enough that's obviously why I'm going into bloody monastery maybe you should join me girl come and have a week with the monks but like I would just say like try and bring in some daily practices that you've probably forgotten about so like you at one point were having your coffee and journaling writing stuff down have you done any of that over the last couple of weeks so this morning I actually woke up way earlier than the girls and I did a

sat down I didn't have a coffee or anything I just sat down and just wrote out everything I was grateful for okay and so I am good at doing that but I haven't been able to go for walks and stuff because it's too hot so I've not been able to do like those things um and like you say when I'm having a bath for example I am planning things for the salon and I'm yeah yeah so like when you don't switch off your ideas won't be clear so you're gonna go to the UK you're gonna be surrounded by love you could be surrounded by family you will switch off and you will feel guilty for it because your brain works like that and you actually just need to surrender to it because then you'll make room and all the ideas will just be so clear and so perfect and you'll be like oh my goodness like you just have

to detach and step away and then you'll be your best advisor you know yeah you're so right 100 just try and enjoy a bit of that downtime but um I know when there's money value to things like you say rent's coming out it's easier said than done um but you do just need to step away and then yeah definitely review it it's so exciting you're gonna absolutely smash it I can't wait because by by the time I'm back in Dubai I think I'll be back in November when I've got this retreat in Sri Lanka so I'll pop by for a week or two in doobs and I will I'm going to be like the villa oh god yeah I haven't seen the girls for like six months I'll be like yeah goodness I know a lot has changed yeah it's crazy oh so um are we gonna bring in our special guest shall we I think so okay so

our special guest has arrived Sam would you like to do the introduction? Am I doing the introduction? Well now everyone knows who it is So Sam's husband Andy is joining us as our special guest How are you? I'm alright, how are you? I'm good thank you, how does it feel to be on the podcast finally? Six months in I finally had the call up yeah

It's taken a while I have No it's nice, it's good to be on the podcast finally six months in finally had the call up yeah been waiting i have no it's nice it's good you're doing great with it aren't you so it's lovely to to be here be honest how many episodes you listen to i pip in every now and again well if you put it on instagram i'll i'll see it yeah oh so you just watch the instagram clips yeah yeah is that it how dare you andy i've listened to i've listened to the first one no i've listened to the first the first couple and then i've kind of fell off a little bit no but i am i am fully involved you're just there for emotional support well i i was thinking like obviously i'm not a podcast kind of guy so well that's all right because you you know obviously sam is you know a woman on a

mission with all her endeavors in life so i was intrigued to know like obviously the last sam's just announced about 2.0 the greenhouse how are you feeling with this next venture and and just life over the last few months well it's nice to know about it when did you find out just now on the podcast she left the house telling me she didn't know what she was going to be doing to then get a message about an hour later with the keys in her hand so

yeah it's just nice to be involved really oh sure he was more involved than he's letting on but yeah I you weren't sure though were you no I wasn't sure for a bit and then yeah I left the house and then I sent him a picture holding the keys

and he was like, so we're going for it. It's funny because you left the house not knowing, but you'd already messaged the guy to meet him there. So she didn't know really, did you? Oh, it's exciting. It really is. It is exciting. And, you know, she's done great already

with the first salon. So I think I just said to you, if you do decide to do it, you know,'s done great already with the with the first salon so i think i just said to you if you do decide to do it you know it will be a success it's just whether you decide if that's what you want to do yeah and you've done with it so i'm very proud oh that's very sweet um that is are you going to be doing any handiwork probably not no absolutely not probably not i would like to but no i wouldn't trust myself and the guys who you um who you who you got in a great so no there's no need for me to do anything i'll probably just slow things down i tried to get involved and he's the kind of guy where like he would put an ikea bit of furniture together but he'd leave out like three screws because he'd

be like oh they were just extras they weren't needed yeah i'd be like that yeah yeah people who don't put the furniture together say stuff like that i would just pay someone to put it together well that's the problem yeah yeah andy you should have listened to our last episode it was all about the zodiac cancer and we did speak about you yeah sammy mentioned uh you're talking about uh was it like personalities and stuff yeah yeah traits the crab you can go back and listen that's how you'll yeah i did do a little summary on Instagram with my little crab pictures you can read that oh god no but the the cancerian signs are like very nurturing and loving and you've obviously got like the shell so like there's a hard exterior sometimes and Sam was saying that when you're at home you're a real softie you love cuddles like you just always want to be cuddled and nurtured. They actually didn't say that.

You do, you are. You need to sell your views, you're lying. I suppose that's similar, yeah, I suppose that's right. It's funny, isn't it, how like just the one month you're born, how similar people can be. Well, yeah, and obviously you've got, yeah, you are very cancerian though, even out of your job, like working with, like helping children, teaching, like, you know, there is, that is a very cancerian way.

And also you're really ruled by the moon. Do you feel like you have mood swings when it's a full moon? Is it moody on a full moon? I didn't really notice, to be fair. Do you reckon? I don't think you've ever had a mood swing, to be honest. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, sometimes, I suppose.

Depends, doesn't it? Depends if somebody goes out the house not telling you they're going to get a salad. With one. It did happen with Sal as well, didn't it? Yeah, I didn't even see the Sal's before she put an offer in. But you signed up to this, didn't even see this house before she put an offer in but you signed up to this didn't you you vowed you made vows and everything she's got worse though jess honestly really yeah you're so in now like you're so invested like we're married we've got two kids kids we've got

a dog we've got a house we've got. So you can just show it through you. Exactly. I am fully flourished. She has. Yeah, I think, you know, it's a good partnership. It's how it should be, you know. One's got to take the lead. Yeah, exactly.

He's a good supporter in it all um and you keep me level-headed don't you yeah it's great yeah you are good for that you've got a lovely grounding energy andy yeah he doesn't get stressed easily which helps when i'm stressed yeah it's a lot isn't it's a lot of doing up yeah definitely a lot is a lot, isn't it? Yeah. But you're going you're going to Centre Park so aren't you? Yeah, yeah.

We're going to we'll go fly tomorrow and then we go we'll go in Centre Park and then we'll go into Wales for a couple of days so that'll be nice. There we go.

That will be nice. Just not to take the others outside because it's just too hot now. Yeah. Yeah. Bless them. Yeah, it's very sweet. Oh, love it.

Well, enjoy a bit of downtime in the UK. I'll try. Hopefully there'll be no more surprises. It's nice to be on. I'll watch this one. You can't watch the podcast. I'll listen to this one. You'll listen back and you'll be like,

maybe you'll have your own podcast I don't know about that Or I'll come next season Do another cameo Next season Yeah We'll maybe interrogate you a bit more We've been a bit kind

Yeah definitely Yeah that's fine just a nice little introduction And then next time you can be a bit a bit meaner a bit meaner and a bit more do you

do you know the outro Andy maybe you could do that what's the outro is that like how you finish it yeah no he doesn't

I'll do it what do you do you can watch and learn go on go on girls your time to shine show him your work yes

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underscore holistic. Love it, babes. Andy, what do you think about that? Very well done. Well, hey. It's exactly like how I heard it last time. Oh, sure. Well, lots of love, everyone.

Thank you for listening. And there's a lot more to come from Sam's side as we go. You're on the journey now. And yours. Love it. All right, guys. Bye.