Spiritually Speaking with Jessica & Samantha - The Return of Cards & Confessions

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

In this week’s episode of Spiritually Speaking, Jess shares openly about how she’s feeling with the launch of her new app, the reality of business right now, and the ways it’s stretching and pushing her. Sam offers her grounded guidance and perspective, before we bring back our much-loved segment, Cards & Confessions. Together we pull cards on your questions, exploring themes of family betrayal, career shifts, and the deeper lessons Spirit wants to reveal.

Hello and welcome back to spiritually speaking with me Sam and with me Jess. Welcome back. Welcome back guys. It's so nice to be back regularly recording. I know. It's so good. We've just had like a full 45 minute debrief, haven't we? Of yes. Life how we're feeling ups and downs. A bit of therapy. I'm feeling a little bit overwhelmed at the moment. So Sam's been coaching me through it, which I really appreciate. appreciate. I've basically been repeating what you have said to me for the last year. Well, thank you. It was good. I was just sort of explaining, well, I'll explain to the listeners just to give them a summary in case you're intrigued. Nothing that exciting. And also people will be able to resonate as well. Yeah, definitely. But I just think sort of where I've moved back

to England, obviously I'm setting up my limited company at the moment, which is like just, it's just loads of admin and it's paperwork and it's like loads of money comes out for things. and you know when you just sort of feel like a bit of stress with that and obviously as you'll know I'm now in like a new lovely relationship and naturally I just want to be in that relationship all the time and not face my responsibilities but obviously I have lots of responsibilities with like my business so I just sort of feel like it's like a new juggling act and then because I'm doing so much work behind the scenes on the app that's been built and I will actually share with the listeners that the app name and the business name is actually going to be the psychic collection

because there was some trademark issues with the psychic circle or I think actually it was the app someone in the world has an app called the psychic circle but they're not using it right how annoying is that yeah it's like when you want to be an Instagram account for like the greenhouse for example and then the person who's using it has got one picture and like Yeah. It was five years ago and you're like, why? Yeah, totally. Yeah. So like we, do you know what? I was actually, so Ellie, who works with me, she's been helping me with all this stuff. So I think she was looking at the apps. I was looking at the domains and then I had Ben on WhatsApp and he was looking at the trademarks for me. So it was kind of like this freeway conversation. And then it was so funny because we basically couldn't have the psychic circle. And like, obviously, love Ben dearly, but he was coming up with name suggestions. and some of them were like the psychic safari. No, no. But it was because we were trying to think of like the psychic journey.

And I think he must have been using AI. But like I literally, I think I said no about 50 times to things. And I was like, I'm sorry I'm not being the bitch, but just no, no. Yeah. So like, you know. And sometimes as well, like the person who's like closest to you, whatever they say you just want to say no to. Just don't know.

Like, yeah. And then I could say it to you and you'd be like, oh, maybe. Yeah, I'm an old safari. That's actually really sophisticated. Just in that moment you're like, please stop. Yeah, well, do you know what? We actually got there in the end on the phone call. It was actually really good.

But my dilemma was, so obviously it's now the psychic collection and it's all going to start launching bit by bit over the next couple of months. A lot of people who have spiritual businesses have collective. So my friend has a business called the Free Spirit Collective, which is obviously a clinic in Dubai. and then there's somebody else I know who has a business called the Connected Collective which is lovely and beautiful

and I was just like oh I feel like the word collective has been used and they're two brilliant businesses I kind of want to find you know that's why I came up yeah and I don't think like circles that original it just sort of flowed so in the end I was like

do you know what I actually think collection and the reason that is I give a little teaser to everyone but part of the business plan in the future is that I would build out my own sort of merch of tarot cards and oracle cards and journals and even like my spell candles and actually I think collection's perfect for that because it is a collection of like psychic education, psychic readings and like psychic tools. So we got there in the end. So it's all it's all there out in the world and it's very exciting.

But also has sort of pushed me a bit mentally. over the last couple of weeks and I've been recording like I think really good content like you know I'm excited for people when they I've if they're in the academy already or when they move over from the circle it's like all the stuff I would have loved when I was starting out on my spiritual journey like it's so it's it's really exciting um just yeah just lots of pressure at the moment more on myself I think from my conversation with Sam I know that I put pressure on myself. And I'm going to remove it a bit and just sort of have a few days. Yeah, definitely. And the thing is, like, it's not our area of genius, like, setting up a

business, the legality side of it, I mean. We're the people with the vision and we're the people with the tools to be able to make it amazing. We're not the people who know how to do. I had to learn the other day what an SEO is and, like, all these different things. And, like, that's not my area of genius. Like I have to hire somebody else to do that, but I still need to have a level of understanding about it so then I can function my business basically and get it to work the way that it needs to work. But I have it every year when it comes around. It's like the trade license and I had a massive thing this year where I had to change the licensing for the salon for one reason or another. And it's, it's you have to learn so much and it's so

consuming. And like you said to me before, you don't want to drop the ball because if you drop the ball the ball is expensive and it holds a lot of value yeah yeah totally a lot of pressure can come from when that happens and a lot of bad repercussions re what's the word repercussions yeah reputions can happen from from that so you do naturally put this pressure on yourself to obviously not want to drop the ball in that phrase but sometimes you do and sometimes it happens and you just move on with that as and when that happens yeah I always also think for me like I'm I'm just learning so much about myself on this that I'm just a lot more of a creative like I feel as though I'm the skill set of having a business is not as natural for me

like it involves so much more energy and like brain fuel and I know people say to me oh god you know you're a hustler and whatever and I think oh fucking hell I'm knackered like I don't think I feel like I'm competing in a sport that like I'm not trained in. That's basically how it feels. Yeah. Sorry. What's really interesting with you saying that is there are so many people who are phenomenal hairdresser, hairstylists, whatever it is within my industry. And then they open up a salon and then the salon after a year, they're like, I need

to close it or sell it or whatever it is that they do, the change owners. Because being the creative and being the person behind the chair, and being the person who runs the space is two completely different jobs and you can relate that and exactly the same thing into your business like being the one who's creating the content versus the person who's setting up the business they are two completely different skill sets that are needed and when yeah and I see it loads especially in Dubai and um you know and there's no like shades people where this happens but so many people. think, oh, I'm going to set up a salon because, you know, I'm amazing at hair or whatever

it is and I want to have people work for me, but then they can't manage the people or they can't manage all the other things that come with it. And when people say to me all the time, like, oh, you're not going to go back and do hair, there's no way that my brain can compute doing those two things well at the same time. And for you, for example, your flow and your amazing skill set is to be creative. But in order to be created, but in order to be creative you can't be to be sat at a laptop all day yeah you need to be going to yoga you need to be going out for walks and letting that like mental energy flow a bit better and not feel stagnant and yeah um i think just be a little bit kinder to yourself that you aren't meant to

know how to do those things and that is why you employ someone to do those things and then you do the creative side i just feel guilty at the moment for everything like i feel as though, like, I've never really felt this before. It's really, really interesting. So, like, I feel guilty for having a break, which not been funny. I love a break, you know. Like, I think it's, well, I also think it's Virgo season. I think I feel like you really do channel the season.

I'm like, oh, God, like every Virgo season this happens. But I feel really guilty if I'm not doing at the moment. And I'm not really having time to look after myself as much as I would like. you know and I kind of feel as though I've not even had made the time to look as nice or you know and I think that's also because I don't really have as many clothes at the moment of some rebuilding a whole new wardrobe I've not had to worry about for like four years but you know it's things like that but I think I've sort of realised there's like a lot of guilt and shame that I carry to my work ethic when it comes to things and you know it's quite interesting this is

coming up for me because obviously my work is service so like for me. I do this because I want to help people. Like that is the matter of fact of my work. Like that is the core root of why I do this work. And that feels weird at the moment because I don't feel like I'm helping as many people because I'm behind the scenes doing other stuff that's taking up my time. But what I know long term is I'll be able to help more people by building this. And it's like there's this sort of battle in my mind.

and, you know, it's so tricky because I'm sort of, yeah, I just feel like I'm in my head a lot with it. And even like I'm saying to Sam, like, I'm in a new relationship and I'm like, I want to be my best self in that. And then I feel like I'm really stressed out with what I'm doing. And then I'm like, oh, God, I want to be on like best form. And then I sort of feel a little bit on edge because I've been thinking about all these things I've got to do. So I just feel like at the moment, I feel a bit of pressure. I kind of feel a bit overwhelmed. But I also know that future me is going to be so grateful for all of this.

And also I'm really proud of myself as well. Like, you know, I couldn't have sustained the business I had for the rest of my life because I would have bloody burnt out. Like I was doing like 25, 30 readings a week. You know, that's like 30 people's problems that I love helping. But actually, like, I just could not maintain that. And I would always think when I have kids, how could I maintain that? and if that's my source of income.

So, like, basically all of this is changing my model so that, like, I have a bit more of a diverse income for, like, my future, you know, so that I'm not always reliant on, like, my hourly income. And all these things, I think, you know, is really important. And I'm really happy I'm doing it. And, yeah, I just feel a little bit overwhelmed. But I also think this is just, like, the Eclipse portal, because it's happening in Pisces, happening in Virgo.

like loads of people have been messaging me actually and I've been sort of seeing people when I can fit them in to help them because there's a lot going on for people right now it's just like it's just a bit heightened I think the energy like it just feels a bit extreme and intense for me just it's the only way I can describe it yeah I'm very used to those feelings I feel like that's literally my brain like survive off of them yeah exactly that's yeah I'm very used to that like when you were saying about feeling guilty for not working as much or feeling like you should work more like that's I feel like that all the time so yeah but I've got very comfortable

now with feeling that way in a sense that I can now train my brain to be like no you yeah need time off to you can't pour from an empty court yeah so you need to take time for yourself to look after yourself to be able to deliver the work in the best way and actually if you're missing that I've said this to you before, like if you're missing that connection, you just need to do like one reading with somebody who really needs it to remember why you do what you do and what you love about what you do and bring you back. I do you think before you do anything like that,

you just need to take some more time for yourself. I think so. Thank you, babe. No, it's all good. I feel like, you know, it's, I really feel I'm moving into such a new chapter of my life so unexpectedly. And that's so beautiful. Like that's what I love.

about life and that's what I love I what I'm going through I love seeing with my clients and I feel I'm going to get a bit emotional but like I am but like when I would see people's lives like shift and it literally just like a moment you know they meet someone or their job changes or you know and it's just so amazing how you can see someone's life just change and there's also the scary side that the life can change for the worse as well and that's the ebbs and flows of life but I actually think for a long time as sort of doing this work, I sort of think, oh, you know, I know I've experienced many chapters in my life, but I think this is probably the chapter I've been wanting the most. Oh gosh. So it's just sort of like, yeah, just a, like a new shift that's happening and

it's just all feeling really new and it's really exciting but also a little bit overwhelming. Yeah. I get that. I completely get that. It's so normal, Jess. It's so normal. And like your life has changed drastically and dramatically so much, like in such a short space of time. And like you say, unknowingly, and you're probably not used to things happening a bit unknowingly because you normally sense them a bit more before they happen.

And, you know, you said in the last episode how you'd seen, you know, Ben's face a few times and things like that. So you had an idea, but you never kind of knew when it was going to happen, how it was going to happen. and I think it's getting you now need to get you get to know this new version of you and yeah I think that's it and like when I think back to say when you're in Thailand for example we would be voice noting and you'd be like oh I'm just going for a massage and the next day it's like oh I'm just getting this massage or I'm going to this sound healing or whatever it was

like every day you were doing something like that for yourself and you know fair enough that's not an average week for most, you know, especially when you're living in the UK. But you've got to remember that those are the things that probably keep you saying alongside doing this really hard work. And whether it's going having a massage, going for an hour's walk, doing a sound healing class, just you've got to protect your energy by doing those things and they are really important. And even like for me, it can be washing my hair. Like washing and blow drying my hair.

Because I remember, like, Andy will say to me, he's like, why you blow-drying your hair? Like, before I go to bed, I'll, like, fully blow-dry it. And, like, because I know that tomorrow I'll be so grateful that I did that because I'll wake up and feel good. And it's just doing those little things that do just make you feel good, whatever that looks like for you. Well, it's like I'm going to get a many-piddy next week

because we're going to Palmer at the end of the week. And, like, I'm really excited for a manicure pedicure. And it's like a really nice new salon that I've not tried before. where like it's so such first world problems isn't it but like you know in Thailand I'd get my nails done every other week because it was just something to do and whatever but yeah I do feel like it is just like I'm so happy and grateful for this like where I'm at like really am genuinely a frank in spirit like every moment but it's like it's such a change and you're right I haven't really made time for myself as much as I probably you like it's it's drastic

really when I think about how much time I had for myself and now obviously and even my family I love my family dearly but they're around me a lot so it's just yeah sort of making those times but actually I'm going to go lane swimming today which is you know as exciting as it gets which I'm really genuinely excited about and Ben's really cute bought me some goggles which I think is really sweet that's you know really sweet yeah it's very sweet bless him and he has got matching goggles so we're going to be you know lane swimming together like a pro relating and the place there they've got that massage and they've got a sauna and steam room so I feel like that's going to become a little bit of a safe space for me but I do think that's it I think basically because this work gives so much I was able to give so much while I was away because I had so much time for myself where now I've got to find that new balance of how I do that so yeah but thanks as always a little bit of a therapy session but I feel like I'm we spent about a year doing therapy sessions on me on this podcast so my turn now so thank you yeah yeah I'd help you when you're starving kids

yeah god don't I think that's going to be like I don't know if my hormones can handle that but also though that's kind of why sometimes as well I feel like you have to experience these feelings now because then when it does happen after you do have kids like you can you kind of then remember how to get through it a bit um But yeah, well, I'm glad we chatted about that. That's so funny because before we recorded, we were like, we're just going to go straight into the questions. We've not got much to chat about.

And then now here we are. That was me saying that as if like, let's just get over this. I'm like, no, do you know what? Fuck it. This is the realities. And actually, I like talking about these things because usually lots of people can relate. And I want you guys to know what goes on because it's the reality of life.

And that is a big part of who I am, sharing the realities of things. Yeah, definitely. And people will be able to resonate with that, absolutely. So I'm glad that you've done that. Get a grip. No, they don't tell me that. That feedback's never good for me.

Like, get on with it. I'm like, that's not what I need. I need to be understood. I need to be seen. Need to be loved and held. Yes, just hold me. That's what I do for my job. I need someone to do it for me.

Oh, thank you. I know right let's solve some people's problems this is where I shine this is where the energy changes let's do that right let's give it a little shake off let's shake it off let's have a little bit of movement okay I'm just stretching my arms oh yeah that feels good move it around oh nice I like a back click okay right let's fucking do this yes let's get in and help some people okay so we've got some good ones this first is quite juicy actually. Okay. Are you okay, by the way?

Yeah, all good. All good. Not much going on here, to be honest. Yeah, all good. River's a bit sick at the moment, but other than that, all good. So, yeah, not much else to report. All right. Right, let's help these people.

Okay. So, first question. Just found out a close family member has been lying to the family and stolen some family money looking for some guidance on how to deal with this that like stings doesn't it?

That's the kind of thing that stings because it's like the thing with your family is you choose right I'll say this carefully you choose to love people around you when it's like your friends

and stuff like that and your family like obviously you don't choose your family but hopefully most people's cases you you'd love your family like unconditionally and for somebody to then do something like that is really hard and especially they've said a close family member as well yes okay all right well i've pulled some cards so i've done like a bit of a four card spread on this one basically their energy your energy um how to work through this and what the solution will be

So their energy is the seven of swords, which is actually the card of betrayal, is taking something in the image. It's basically a man with five swords and he's sort of running away with them. So it's sort of like he's taking something, which is obviously what's happening. I don't know if it's a man or a woman, but that's just the image of the card. What I would say, my initial instinct is they needed this money. It doesn't make it right. and I feel as though there's like a lot of secrets it's not just the money so I feel as though this could be like addiction or gambling like there is more that's gone on here and I think

this person's like in more of a pickle than just the stealing so like there feels like there's actually maybe some mental health concerns here so I would say like you know tread carefully with this because it actually feels like quite deep. It's not just sort of a greedy person. It feels like actually someone in need. However, it doesn't make it right. Okay. Now, I feel as though this person sees the rest of the family,

like they don't understand them because this is the other card I've got, which is sort of the Six of Ones. And the Six of One's energy is a bit like success and, you know, sort of charging ahead. So maybe this family member felt like this was, the only way for me to do it. None of you understand. You know, you're all fine. Like, you know, you just wouldn't get it. You know, there's kind of some resentment for the fact that maybe other members are doing better or they come across more stable. Could be as simple as

that. And then the solution is the King of Cups. And the King of Cups is like the absolute peak of emotional intelligence here. So it's though this person needs help. So it's not necessary. It's painful you've been betrayed but there's more to this and the king of cups can see that the king of cups can see that maybe this is a bit of a crisis and something needs to be you know there needs to be a bigger conversation this should be addressed this should not be dismissed this should be addressed and actually there is more layers under the money that will make sense and then actually as a family you're going to have to work out how you solve that that's what comes up for me here

because then the solution is sort of the five of swords so there is going to be confrontation. There is going to be, this is challenging, but this will be karmic as well. Like if we sort of look at this on a karmic level and spiritually, there's a lot of karmic lessons as a family that you're going to have to learn through this. But there is many layers beyond just the stealing of money.

I don't want you to be concerned. Like I don't want you to be frightened. Like I don't want you to be frightened. that like it's really bad things but mentally this person needs support from the family and and some honest conversations yeah I feel like as soon as you were saying that I was like oh my god yeah that sounds so spot on even though I have no idea obviously but this person's situation is but I can I know some people who have been through similar situations and that was very much we don't just still for the sake of it.

no exactly but i didn't think of that at first until you said that and you are right like people who are desperate and feel like maybe that's their only uh choice but it's yeah it's not it's not an easy one way once way to fix it i suppose is uh and the thing is like when we do things you know we're all human and we all make mistakes i'm not saying that we should steal and i really don't think it's a good value but what i will say is there will be deeper reasonings and that's really coming through in my energy, more psychic with this individual. And that's always the case. Like when there's a problem, even like, you know, when you snap at someone, it's not that situation that's the route. It's something else, you know, there's

all these lame. The skulls back. Yeah. And that's exactly what this situation is. So that would be my guidance to this person. So what I would say is, you know, it might not be you that leads this conversation, but it might be you that has that with your parents and then they have it with this person. I don't know if it's a sibling or whatever, but I don't think necessarily the person who submitted this is like the leader in the family in a way. There's someone else who would take the lead with this

and they kind of need to ask that person and explain some things to them to say, I think we could approach it in this way. Yeah. Well, please let us know how you. get on with that and I hope that they're listening. Yeah, I hope so. I'm sure they are. Okay. Okay. So next one I would say is a little bit vague, but this is where you will be good with your cards on this one. Okay. So looking for a job at the

moment and weighing options between starting slow in brackets, part-time, flexible hours, or doing full-time. And also, if I do full-time, what to go for. All have cons and pros, any guidance would be appreciated. Okay. So I don't really need. Sorry, for me, that sounds like somebody who's looking for a job but doesn't really need to work because if there's, I don't know, if they're saying like maybe part time, maybe full time,

it kind of sounds like, you know, I just fancy getting a job. I'm not sure what to go for. And if maybe there's not really a amount, yeah, maybe there isn't, for me personally, if somebody was saying that to me, I'd be like, well, what are your passions? What are you passionate about? and that's where you find out what you'd want to do for work. And I know that a lot of people don't work in something that they're passionate about,

but you have to go to work every day or even if it's three days a week, you may as well enjoy it. Yeah. I find it when you ask people what they're passionate about. It's a really hard question. Really? Oh, people can't answer it. That's really sad.

But it's very normal. It is, but it is sad. like I just think to figure out what you're passionate about you need to just go and try some different hobbies and like realize what makes you happy like you said before you're passionate about helping people I'm passionate about helping people

I'm also passionate in seeing that before and after in some of these space but they've had the hair done and they look so much like brighter and lighter at the end in the whole personality and persona but anyway I don't know no it's interesting because I think when you think about I'm just sort of

I'm more just toying with you, like, in a sense of, like, with passion, you know, helping people was definitely my passion. And I think learning was a passion and sort of learning new things, spiritually and whatever. But when I think about when I was in my corporate job, if someone asked you what my passion was, it would probably be like, I don't know. I couldn't have answered it. Really couldn't offer. Obviously, I had my spirituality then, but it wasn't to what it is now.

So I think maybe, I think also what's hard is passion doesn't always earn people money, does it? Yeah, exactly. By the sounds of it, though, this person doesn't necessarily need, isn't necessarily going for a job for that reason. But in that sense, I would just do something that makes you happy. So I've got, what I did is I pulled two sort of section. So I've pulled one section which is part time and one section is full time. So then. Oh, that's good.

Yeah, so then they can kind of get a sense of what's going to suit them. after that they can then probably think about what that would be really random i'm seeing a garden centre and i'm seeing flowers so i feel like i'm all like a tea rooms as well like there's something that like you'd there's something outdoors and fresh air that i could see for this person which is so random and i don't know if it'll resonate but if it does at some point do you know it's just really random over the last um couple of weeks for some reason i've received in a lovely way messages from clients from years ago that have reached out to me. I've had about three messages and they're like, you read for me three years ago and you said

these things and like they've all come true. And it just made me think about the garden centre. I'm like, do you know what? You might not get the garden centre drop straight away or it might, or you might be that it's an office in a garden centre. I don't know. But I just saw it clear as day, like this lovely sort of greenhouse and really green and I don't know, something really beautiful. So maybe that will make sense when you sort of find it. The part time I'm drawn to more than the full time. The full time has got the tower card, which is quite disruptive.

So I do feel like the full time could be a bit of a shift, a bit like how I'm feeling overwhelmed in my life. You may feel that in yours if you kind of go to this full time job. And I don't think you'll be as emotionally satisfied as you think. where what I'm sort of seeing with part-time you've got the ten of pentacles so I don't know if this person has a family but if you do I think it would work quite well

with your family and your balance of life you also have the ace of wands for this so there's like an opportunity for something new and the ones is passion Sam you know so it might be that they're able to go into something that makes them feel just quite happy it might not be you know a job that's maybe really pressured

It needs to be a career. Yes, it feels like something that's really quite enjoyable. So I really would urge this person to look at part-time. And also with the garden centres, it's so weird. I'm also seeing like the RHS Garden. So I don't know if this person's in England or in Dubai, but if you're in England, and if you're in Essex in particular, I feel like I'm seeing Bedroft Garden Centre randomly.

And the RHS Garden near a high toll. So that's, have a look on their websites if you are in the area, because there might be a job for you. And please, if this makes sense, please tell me because... Yeah, I'd love to know. But that's what I'm seeing. So I would say part-time, I'm seeing sort of fresh and outdoors

and something may be a little bit different to what you've usually done. And it's not a step down or it's not beneath you. It's going to bring a lot of happiness, but it's also a balance. So just be mindful of the balance. But bring a nice bit of connection as well with different people. Yeah, definitely.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I like that. I really want these people to like write that. I know. Yeah. I hope they do. Okay, so last one. So, Hey, girls, lovely to have you back on air again. So here we go. Just started being brave and building my business in brackets, finally. But at the same time, amazing roles are coming up at work. That would mean moving back to the UK or to Singapore. Do I apply and see what happens? Despite my plan to be in Dubai for the next few years, perhaps that's not on the universe's plan. I know the business is the right move, but we'll need the day job to continue anyway at the same time. What should I do? Thank you so much. We had a very similar question to this, not that long ago. Do you remember? And we said that when this person on this other question was building their business

because they got offered a really good opportunity within their job that they already had. They were like, what do I do? And they say, you said, the universe shows you, yeah, shows you distractions, like to try and pull you back. Oh, you've been quiet.

I lost you there. Oh, sorry. Sorry. The universe, like, gives you distractions and basically tries to give you these, like, new opportunities in the same job that you're already in, to try and make you realize like I don't know pull you to stay but you need to make the tough

decisions basically is that right yeah like I was giving the example with when I was moving to Dubai my corporate job offered me a job in New York and it was like oh my god like how cool would that be and like they set me down and it was like would you want it you know and I was thinking oh my god like do I do I do this and then I was like do I now do my spiritual work full-time take the pay cut, take all the risks, or do I go and live it up in New York and carry on in the corporate world? And I probably would have become way more hardcore corporate in New York, you know.

And that was temptation and that was spirit's temptation. Now, if I was meant to be in New York, I would have gone. You know, that would have been my path. And for this person, it doesn't mean that your path will be exactly like mine. what I would say is when temptation appears, you need to ask, is it, you know, is it for the long-term goal, you know, so maybe it's more money or whatever, like, is that going to satisfy you for the next two years and then you're going to be back in this place in two years time thinking, I wish I spent the last two years continuing to grow my business. That is my

biggest thing here. Now, the cards I've pulled, you said something about Singapore, didn't you? And England? Yes. Yeah. So I basically pulled three sections, Singapore, working for yourself and England. So they're all fine. Like, well, the business one, I'm going to be biased is the best one. But if you went to work in Singapore, that would be great. I'd go and work. I'd go and work in Singapore like you'd have a lovely time but it it's sort of running away a bit from the work that you've been doing because I feel like this is very like energetic self-development work the business and you'll kind of run away from that because we've got the one two three four the six of swords coming through so the six of swords is kind of running away from

conflict a bit so you may find that the Singapore sort of option just to takes you away from the inner work that you're doing and do you know what sometimes it's just nice to run away from the inner work but it will come back and and that might be because it comes back at the right time you know or it might just be that you're running away so that's my first thing with england it feels like it'd be a burden okay because we've got the 10 of ones and i'm not ruling it out but i also have a card that signals running away which is the eight of cups which is walking away from things. So both career opportunities that stay in the company are telling me that you are going to walk away from a part of yourself if you go for these jobs. And I think that is the part of

you that is digging deep and turning into like a business person, you know, hustling, all those new things that are going to come up when you have your own business. It's like maybe you're taking the easy way out. I don't know and maybe that's okay. But the cards for your business, you're business is the night of cups and the eight of ones. And the eight of ones is quick momentum. So if you want to dedicate to your business, it will work. And you've just got to go for it, you know, and the night of cups will go for it. The night of cups is emotional and intuitive. So you know deep down it will work. You're just scared. And that's natural. And these opportunities have mirrored your fear and said, okay, if you're scared, you can leave.

it's up to you what you do but you know what these jobs are they're just going to delay the inevitable that would be my yeah yeah i think that was really very good i think i know who this is as well so i'm in your energy um as well so i do know you i'm sure um so keep going with your business. Whoever it is, right, back into and let us know how you got on. Are you going to pull me a card? Oh, yeah.

I said it at the beginning, I was like, pull me a card. I haven't had a card pulled for ages. I have no idea what's going to come up though. Do you want to ask a question? Oh, should I ask a question? Oh, I feel really on the spot. I don't really know what question I would ask. What about the Pro Academy?

where there's work going on behind the scenes yeah okay um okay yeah i'm trying to think what my question would be with that so at the moment i'm working very hard on the greenhouse pro academy similar to what jess was saying with her app i'm doing a similar thing obviously in a very different industry um my question would be can i so i'm asking a question but i do feel like i already know the answer but can i build it to the level to the level of that I want to build it to. Yeah, you can. Yeah, all right.

I feel like I knew that that was going to be a yes. But do you get what I mean? I do. So basically you've got a vision of what your greenhouse academy is going to be. Is it going to be that? So what we've got is the six of ones. So the six of ones is all about success and celebration. So it's saying, yes, there will be, you will get there, okay?

You're going to get annoyed with this card. You have got the hanged man, which is patience and perseverance. So it is saying you'll get there, but you're going to have to be patient and persevere. And you also have the five of sorts, which is challenges, okay? And that can be like mental challenges. So what you're saying to you is this is going to push you in new ways, okay? So yes, you'll get there, but it's going to involve patience, perseverance, but also challenges that involve the mind.

So you're going to probably feel more creative, more curious. you're going to maybe problem solve more. There's going to be a lot more that's involved, but I think it will absolutely be successful. It's going to involve those two elements. My thing that just came to my mind as you were shuffling was where will it take me? Well, yes, exactly,

because what you might find, which I feel for you, is you're planting a seed and this will grow into something and evolve into something that right now you can't really call. comprehend or imagine. So maybe your target market, like the way it's going to work. There's just going to be so much that will shift and change with it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now I love that.

All right. Okay. I'm going to do the same. I'm going to pull for myself. And I have to honor the cards if I'm pulling them live on a on a podcast. So my question is very similar to Sam's. But, you know, how do you sort of see Spirit the next sort of six and sort of 12 months of the psychic collection growing and evolving. We've had a, oh, we've had some pop out. Hello. Oh, yeah, baby. I'm very happy about this.

A king of pentacles, which is all about the money, money, money. And the 10 of cups, which is obviously, emotional fulfillment and it's also a family of four I'm hoping in the next six to 12 months I will not be falling pregnant

with twins and building a family of four but do you know what? What do you imagine? I think that would push me over the edge but spirit I trust you I trust you but I've got

some more holidays and living before that and then the judgment card which comes through and the judgment card is sort of like coming to the end end of something and you're sort of seeing your art like the results and things I feel really

positive about that I feel as though there's the king of pentacles is like things are going to be good money wise like this is you know and obviously I'm not here to be a millionaire that I'm here to build a business where I can serve and financially live you know like it's that that's the goals for me like I want to have money to live like and to not worry because I feel like when I'm not worrying, I can give more. And I can, and I would like to give more free work and work, you know, there's so much I want to do. And to do that, I need money. So that's lovely to see. And the 10 of cups is just really nice because, yeah, I'm up for, you know, emotional fulfillment. And also, I actually am building this as well, because I do think when I have

kids and the psychic collection will bring in more passive income for me, which is important. Otherwise, I'm just going to be, you know, on Zoom every day. My best to do the school run, you know? I want to do the school run. I feel like you needed to have those messages, yeah. If it was like deaf devil and something else, I'd be like, fuck my life, right, do you know what? I'll quit, I'm done.

No, I wouldn't, but, you know, anyway, oh, babes. Well, thank you, yeah, it was. Thank you so much for listening. And if you want to get in touch, please do with a question for our next episode. As we've said a million times, they are 100% anonymous. The link is in our Instagram bio, which is at spiritually speaking underscore podcast. If you want to get in touch with either of us or just see what we are up to, I am at Samanthagreen.tgheh, and she is at Jessica Marie underscore holistic.

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