Spiritually Speaking with Jessica & Samantha - The Virgo Mindset

Episode Date: September 20, 2024

In this week’s episode of Spiritually Speaking, Jess and Sam delve into the themes of Virgo Season and the transformative energy of the lunar eclipse in Pisces. They begin with their usual lively catch-up, sharing personal updates and what's been on their minds lately. The conversation then shifts to exploring Virgo's influence—its emphasis on organization, self-improvement, and practical changes—as well as how this grounded energy interacts with the dreamy, emotional waves brought by the Pisces lunar eclipse. 

Hello and welcome to Spiritually Speaking with me Sam and with me Jess. Welcome back. Hello, hello everyone. Back to it. Yeah, I actually feel like we've already been recording the podcast because we have been chatting for an hour, over an hour. Yeah, over an hour, like an hour and 15 minutes. But about stuff that we probably a lot of it we would have actually spoken about and at times i had to say to jess like stop talking about that we'll talk about on the podcast um yeah it's quite weird i feel like i know i'm gonna have no voice by the end of this i know do you know what i was thinking i was like luckily i've got no more work for the rest of the day because i feel like I can then just be like, ah.

So yesterday I worked my first evening shift and I worked 11 till 9. By the time I finished work, I felt like I had tonsillitis. I've never had tonsillitis touch wood I don't even know what it feels like but I've had no I've never had it well I don't know if I've had it oh I don't think I have I think I don't know I felt like I had a golf ball at the back of my throat I could barely talk I got home last night and I was like oh my god I was so tired I felt like every bone in my body hurt because like realistically I'd got up at six I did a little Pilates workout obviously then get up with the girls did everything with the girls then did a little bit of work then got to salon for 11 11 till 9 I did not stop like I think I sat down for two minutes at a time three times throughout the whole day I couldn't handle it honestly yeah like a lot of the

um a lot of the girls I work with haven't ever worked with me doing hair because they started like when I was on maternity so they were in and they were like looking at me like oh my god you literally don't stop and I was like yeah but you know what, I remember in my corporate job, I used to do events. And I'd be standing up from like five to like 9pm. I'd be in pieces. And that's not nowhere near as much as what you were doing. And I was like, I'm like, I'm not made to stand up all day, my feet would hurt. My back would hurt. Like, it's crazy. I actually have booked myself a massage today which I said to you yesterday I am so glad that I did that because now obviously I feel like I really need it um

but yeah it's everything is just a bit crazy at the moment so what's been going on tell me um so the salon is very close I I'm really hoping that by the time this by the time the next recording comes out yeah we should be up and running everything should be done it will be done it will be done um positive language yeah yes exactly that has been a different kind of stress that i don't think i've experienced before because when I did the first salon obviously it was only me a receptionist and an assistant who were waiting to start so there was no real pressure on that other than clients wanting to book in and me saying to them like I can book you in for this day but I don't know like you know there was obviously some stress around it but it was completely different to what this is i've got i think i've got six i think i've got 12 employees

now it's amazing about it'd be about 14 within the next couple of weeks and then it'll go up again soon after that and all these people are waiting to know what's happening on top of that they all have clients who are asking every day yeah what's happening next what's gonna do this when's this gonna be ready and i'm like i don't know yeah if i had an answer i'd give you an answer but i don't know and um i'm constantly having to like close the salon to do work so then I'm having to cancel clients and then it's just a lot yeah but is what it is and like for example on Saturday night at five o'clock the contractor will message me and he's like you need to come to the salon because I need you to check this and I'm like right and Andy's not well at the moment he's just had like a bad like cold

so I had to leave the girls with him go to the salon sort this thing out that needed sorting out he's asking me questions which I just don't even feel qualified to answer and I don't have the answer for and then I I'm trying to get back in time to then like bath the girls and put them to bed and help Andy which I wasn't back in time for he just did it but like bathing two babies on your own is really hard work it is don't sit up either like they can't sit up yet so it's really like quite difficult and then yeah so I feel like I'm just constantly like back forth back forth between the salon and home and shops to go and get lights because then the shop that I need to get the lights from hasn't got the lights which you just as I've just said this I've just remembered

I need to go and pick up the lights like there's a lot oh my babes are doing so well and light is at the end of the tunnel yeah we're not too far away now, hopefully. So yeah, all will be good. But I yeah, I've had a bit of a breakthrough recently, obviously speaking to you a lot about it. And we'll share it on here. Where I've just realized that I'm spinning a lot of plates at the moment. And I didn't obviously intend on being in this situation. I never intended on getting next door it just literally just happened um and my return to work by doing hair has happened at the same time obviously this renovation's happened which again wasn't planned and it's just a bit too much to be honest for me right now and I think that I'm not really in a position where I can be doing a full-time column alongside everything else I thoroughly enjoy my job I love doing hair I love

chatting to my clients I love catching up with them but right now that's not where I can be giving so much attention to like um yesterday for example i did i don't i couldn't even tell you how many clients i did yesterday one two three four five six clients i think and they're all like big transformations and they require a lot of my focus and time and you know i could be doing a client's hair and i could get interrupted like three times to be like oh this has been delivered what do you want me to do with this or this person's on the phone what do you want me to do with this or could you just check this we need this and you know yeah it's a lot like I feel I feel like um when the the renovation's done you'll be able to see clearer as well what your

day is going to look like because it's probably like an unrealistic day right now for you yeah yeah exactly you know you just kind of ride it a bit but I think there's so much like you I think what you start to realize like I've I've been having the same is like where is your time most valuable and I think that's what's coming up for you right now and when you have got 14 employees and more to come yeah that's where a lot of your time needs to be focused now and it's different to when it was you and two others so naturally your day is going to change and I think like it's the commitment you've made like in a sense of like not commitment but like the bond and loyalty with your clients which is the personal element to it which I think is just holding you right now um and I think it's like really nice that we're all

here with you on the journey while you're you're going through it like I bet there's people that can relate whether they're a hairdresser or even like I always think like teachers when they become like a head of and then they're not in the classroom as much there's always this natural evolution of your career that like there's something you love maybe not everyone and then it then changes because you become more senior or whatever and you're actually not doing the thing you love anymore and yeah I noticed this with a lot of people um that I've worked with when as in like the mentor inside a business where there'll be a hairdresser and they feel like the natural progression is to get a salon but actually then they they hate that because they're then the owner

of a business and a manager and they have to do so many other parts of the job that they don't actually enjoy and they don't get to do the part that they enjoy anymore but I have this all the time when I think about like my future like I saw on like equivalent to right move in Thailand it was like a thousand pound a month and it was like a cafe space and it had like all arches and I was like god that'd be I know like it's just like ridiculous I don't even know why I was looking at it and like and I was like god that would be amazing for like workshops readings and all this stuff and I was like oh just then I was like oh maybe one day and then I was like but I don't want to manage it like I don't want to like but I also wouldn't want to be an employee so like I'm like how would I have this

where I still love what I do and I was like yeah I'm not sure yet like I feel like I still need to work that out so I do think like yeah you grow either through a premises which is what you've done or you kind of expand more as an individual which is what I've done on a business and I think both are complex but I feel like it takes a lot to manage people on a premises like I admire you so much for that thank you yeah it's you know what I think it it's a lot more work than what anybody probably even realizes um and what I even realize as well like managing staff and you know like I have a manager um at the salon like she's absolutely amazing I have a manager who does that role but there's still way more beyond that yeah um well she's

I think you're always sort of there's yeah it's tears isn't it of what you're thinking about and stuff but yeah I think just give yourself like you know some credit for what you've achieved and I think that right now you probably can't do that because you're so in the haze of productivity but once it's launched you really need to make some time to just like reflect on what you've achieved because it's amazing thank you yeah and he's booked us a stay okay for the weekend of when it should be finished um so that'll be really nice i'm really looking forward to that so it'll be nice just to have some time with him and the girls yeah yeah that's kind of my chaotic catch-up amazing though i love hearing about the salon i love like knowing how it's going i think people listening do as well so it's nice to hear it my babes yeah

it's good it's good i think i've mentioned the services that we're going to be doing haven't i no i'm like i don't know i think the people want to know smem for it's funny i feel like i'd mentioned that so we're going to be doing manicures and pedicures I feel like I've mentioned this you sure I haven't well if you have I don't know about it obviously I do know because I don't really I feel like I asked you when you were like oh okay right yeah so we're gonna do manicures and pedicures um which I was extremely reluctant to do wasn't I it was a really hard like thing to get my head around the chorus was strong in you with that we had quite a few phone calls and voice

notes over many pedis honestly like yeah multiple and not even just with you either like they were there with my sister they were with like all my friends they were with my friends who've got salons they were constant I messaged Poppy my old business mentor like and everybody had very very different approaches to it as well and oh god it was it was hard it was really hard to get my head around but anyway that's what we're going to be doing and And I'm excited about it now. I'm happy about it. It's funny actually even thinking back to that time. Because I just don't know what to do.

Like I would leave a phone call and you're like, okay, yeah. And then like the next day you'd be like, right, I've been thinking about it. And like, I don't think I want to do this. But I think that's the whole journey. I've never changed my mind so you know what I think was the hardest thing is I'm always very headstrong in my decisions and I always know exactly what I want so to be so torn on something I think was what was making me struggle with it um and then if you remember at one point I was like right I'm not going to do it with plumbing because then I can change my mind if I want to change my mind.

And also the expense that comes with obviously adding plumbing. Oh, I added the plumbing and I made it double the size of what I planned on doing. Like, of course I did. so yeah it's making me laugh thinking about the scenarios we're coming up with where was that well it could just be like a nice copper bubble and they fill the water up and they bring that to the pit you're like the water would be like all over the floor like there's just solutions like we yeah now i've gone fucking all in um that should be good yeah yeah exactly um so yeah so that's exciting um yeah it's all it's all coming along and it's just things like picking materials for things that are that you love but then they're like so expensive and then i'm like right is that actually necessary

is it not and then now i've picked a material that's just come in from Turkey and I don't even know what it looks like when they've seen it online oh so don't worry why don't you talk me through what the space of 1.0 is going to look like if you're open to sharing yeah so um so the current salon that we have um is going to be changing a lot as well because at the moment, obviously, that's like the salon where you'd come in, you've got the reception, you've got a waiting area, you've got a desk, you've got the hair stations, the backwashes, staff room, et cetera. So that will now be just a hair space. So it will be a very big hair space, bigger than what it is right now.

It's going to have a lot more hair stations. It's got more backwashes. It's going to have more of a flow to it than what it does at the moment because it will be purely hair. So everything in there is going to change. That's a buy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. And like yesterday when I was in the salon we were all so busy

and like we don't have enough chairs right now because and we have 10 chairs that's quite a lot of chairs but um and then we also have four backwashes right now um but we were like running out and two of the hairdressers weren't even in but that like imagine what that's going to feel like when those new spaces are there and what lovely is I always go back to that initial vision of like you being you know really focused on hair and that experience and I just love the fact that that room is just going to be an aura of that you know like it's going to be it's so amazing I'm so proud of it. Thank you yeah it has such a good buzz i mean i turned up the other day and they so my new floor has gone down so i had to put new floor down which was not in the

plan um but that had to happen because when we started taking stuff out of the original salon obviously the floor was ruined so then they were like well we can replace these tiles but then if we replace them they're going to look different color to the old one because the old ones have been there for two years so it's like right let's just put a whole new floor down so then so then did a whole new floor and then they've tiled over where the speaker wires go oh so now the speaker system doesn't work um that's that's not ideal is it yes because they tiled over it so i came in in the morning the contractor was like laughing like oh my god you don't believe what we've done i'm like this is not funny like i don't know why you're laughing i'm not laughing i'm like contractor samantha's playlist for the greenhouse yeah a big part of the greenhouse experience exactly

so then I just text all my hairdressers and I was like who has a speaker please bring me one in today and then go all like loads of them brought in speakers bless them so we've just had a speaker now going with the playlist which normally something like that would give me anxiety but I was like no it's fine actually works quite well to be honest um so that's been fine um but yeah so i've not got my like nice surround sound going on right now um but that'll be fixed eventually but that's just long on my list um so yeah so that space is going to be yeah it's going to be changing i can't really i can't envision what it's going to look like but i think it's hard to imagine it the way because it's just going to be so different to how it is now yeah that's so exciting yeah

really exciting yeah it's going to be good yeah it's amazing it's definitely coming together so well done babes thank you thank you yeah not long now not long now love it love it love it yeah and so what's been going on with you so what's been going on so I'm in Kuala Lumpur still uh I'll be honest like it's nice to be in a city but I find it a bit boring if you know what I mean okay and like I don't think it's the craziest city um so I have been more focusing on work and that was my intention for while I was here anyway um but I feel like I've just been quite hermit mode to be honest um but I have done some fun things. So I've been reflecting a story of my life. And I was thinking, and actually I had some good advice as well, which prompted this, about the fact that I don't have hobbies.

And I think this is quite interesting. I think a lot of you will be able to resonate with this. But, like, my spirituality was always my hobby so I had my corporate job if there was a psychic night on oh that was like the best thing ever on a Wednesday night or I'd go to my circle and that was like my hobby and you know and that was the first time I really had a hobby that wasn't sport. Like, you know, sort of. Obviously, what's happened now is my life's changed and my hobby and passion has become my business. Now, it's still a passion. I still love it.

But I basically have like kind of blended my life too much I feel and like I'm not doing things that are a hobby now which make me happy so like when I'm looking at the transits obviously I'm like obsessed with what's happening in the sky and learning and whatever but it actually benefits me and my job so I've been thinking about it so I went to an art class on Saturday I loved art when I was younger and I actually think I'm quite good at art like I'm not blowing me on trumpet but I am a little bit but I actually can get really stuck in and really get some nice stuff from it which i find very therapeutic and i find that when i paint or color in

my brain actually stops and can slow down which is basically neuron impossible i am exactly the same we would like through Covid Andy bought me loads of colouring books and pens and I would just sit and colour all night and well day through night because we couldn't leave the house but um it was so therapeutic for me yeah I absolutely love colouring and painting I don't think i'm particularly as good like i think i'm probably not i'm just i think i've got like a b maybe in in art in school in gcse yeah but um i loved it i used to skip lessons that's sure sorry mom um all the time to just sit in the art block and the teachers are just leading me to it because I wasn't harming anyone like I was just and I sit in that class and I just draw and paint away and that was how

I'd spend my time in school because I was so happy in there and yeah really really therapeutic so I completely get why you would have enjoyed that yeah I did it for GCSE and I did it for AS level I didn't do my A levels in the end. But like I was the same, just always in the art studio. And it was, we used watercolour. And I really remember Miss Walker teaching me how to use that watercolour and ink to like get the effect. And I was just like, I was just, I was just lovely. And I want to bring that into my routine more like when I can obviously where I'm traveling it's funny because I actually look at more

activities like in the areas because I'm always something to do so I think I'm going to kind of look into that the only issue is like I don't really feel the need to carry like all my collections of art like because I haven't really got much room for it so it's quite good this place it was a tote bag and you painted on the tote bag so I was like great I can use it yeah so but yeah so that was really good um but I've definitely been reflecting on how busy my my brain is and I've been messaging my therapist actually to like work with her through it because I I think it's like all everyone's sort of going through this whole ADHD thing of like women having it um but I'm so hyper sensitive because of like my spiritual side um and I just feel like I need to work on some things with slowing my brain down because it's so hyper aware it's exhausting um so I've been like observing what things like

slow my brain down and help it be quiet so cooking's one of them like prepping vegetables washing up is one yeah I don't wash up loads my mum will probably laugh as I say that because she'll be like you never wash up please say that in Lindsay's voice oh Jess I've never seen you wash up before oh I'll take pictures of you at Christmas when you're home with all your glasses sorry mum um but like those sorts of things help me just like relax but it like I always talk about meditation and I can meditate and obviously when I was in the monastery I was doing it a lot um but I find if I'm doing an activity that's simple that doesn't involve like thinking I can zone out honestly I can I feel like we're probably going to go on this journey with this together

because as obviously what I was just saying that my head is fucking spinning at the moment like it's on a treadmill and the treadmill's not stopping um however hopefully in a week and a half it will but i feel exactly the same and there's certain things there's only a few things that i've found that i can do where i switch off yeah and pilates is one for me i love pilates i can really switch off when i'm doing that uh cleaning yeah yeah cleaning definitely and there'll there'll be times when i just frantically start cleaning and he's like what are you doing and i don't think what he i think maybe he realizes it now but for me it's more that i have a messy mind yeah no it's messy my mind's messy and by controlling that i feel like i have to clean and that can make me feel a bit better um but i never like don't listen to a podcast or an audio

of some description um i never like ever really sit in silence and having like even when i have a massage my brain is on a million miles an hour yeah yeah I can be a bit like that in a massage um yeah it's it's fascinating because whether it is like being neurodivergent whether it's just how we're made who knows but what I do know is I want to give my brain some quiet time so I don't really care what the label is to be honest but I can't do it myself I can't work it out and I imagine a lot of you are listening so do you know what what's lucky for you lot I'll pay for the therapy I'll do the work and I'll share it okay so we're in this together that anyone can relate and my sister Hayley we always laugh because

we we've definitely unofficially diagnosed her sorry Hayley sharing that with the podcast but we find it funny um but like she's quite similar to you always on the go you know able to juggle a lot um but it's like I think this would be my observations of you and her. It's then hard to stop and slow down. Yeah, very. Where like I can stop and slow down and then stay there for a bit too long. So like sometimes I find that like I just sit there and like two hours is gone. And I'm like, that was really unproductive.

But like, not really sure what I did. I don't think I was relaxing. was just like not very useful yeah like you know I'd rather have been more productive and or and when I say productive like more soulful but I could see on TikTok hours easily yeah wow yeah that easy like honestly like I feel like tiktok is the only way that I cannot think and I just don't think it's the right thing you know I don't feel like my spiritual soul needs tiktok as a solution so yeah so just like before bed it's like I just need like half an hour of tiktok and I'm like that's not good for my I sleep very heavy but I just like before bed it's like I just need like half an hour of TikTok and I'm like that's not good for my I sleep very heavy but I'm like it's not very good for me you know I've actually just realized something that I would always do I used to read yeah I was a massive reader because

we're talking about before bed I used to read before bed and that was such a good switching off but I was a massive reader like if somebody messages me now and asks for a book recommendation I send like 20 and they're like wow you read a lot and I'm like I actually did used to read a lot but I actually haven't for ages so maybe that's something I've got a solution for you Samantha I'm starting a book club oh yes that's such a good hobby by the way when we're talking about hobbies yeah like it doesn't have to be sport it doesn't have to be physical i mean i think movement is medicine and i think that it's very good to get moving but yeah book club so i'm gonna start a book club as there's

like a tier that i'm building at the moment on patreon which is like the spiritual development one so like the books will be more focused on spirituality but it but there'll be more like the books that I enjoy which have got a nice nice vibe to them you know yeah so we will be back in our mojo and anyone that wants to join then I'll be sharing a bit more about it over the next couple of weeks um but yeah I hear you girl well I'll keep you up to date my therapist is on holiday at the moment so I said to her babes it's not urgent like enjoy your holiday but when you're back let's let's get some sessions in because I've got a load of notes on my brain that I want to talk to you about and I think you know what I've yeah I've never done therapy um I feel quite called to it recently do you think I should but you know what it is I think I feel like I've got no reason to go

but I actually probably have I've probably got there's probably people listening to this like girl you really need to go I've got the therapy for you by the way I'll send you a detail she's amazing because I do I've got this real calling that I feel like I need to do it at the moment but I think it's because everything is so hectic and the last seven months of my life has been the best and the most insane time and you know I feel like I'm a different person now to who I was when we first started this podcast for example and I feel like I do actually need a bit of therapising over all of that definitely because we I think we use this as a bit of therapy and obviously it's very yeah we do everyone you ever forget the people listening

to this by the way the other day one of my clients was like oh I've just listened to your podcast and I was like fuck what have I spoken about on that podcast I know I like yeah I do as well and I I think yeah like this is like a form of therapy for us and I think our friendship is very much like that um but I think therapy I obviously I'm a massive advocate for anything where you work with someone to help you through life but yeah there is an association that you've got to be going for a bad thing to be in therapy but like right I'm not depressed I'm not anxious like I'm just in my head and I know that I need to have some help with that and the way that that's going to work is with someone who is trained to understand the brain in a way that I can't see it because obviously I like to go spiritual and sometimes Kim she gets me grounded

and she's like hun I know but let's just get a bit logical right now and that's what I need okay so please go and do it Sam and I'll send you details of who I'm thinking of in my head because you have been through a lot and it's really important to like reflect and just check in because otherwise what happens is it's five years later and you're like oh my god when that year was so busy I didn't really appreciate it because sometimes in therapy you're just like you can feel like so much gratitude other times you feel frustrated you know it really does change but yeah do it okay maybe I'll keep you all posted if I give it a go I think it's really exciting I honestly when I was doing it every week it was the highlight of my week like I literally could

not wait to get and see Kim honestly that's nice I loved it um so yeah it was and I'm really excited to get back working with her again so yeah anyway that was all updated yeah you never know maybe Kim will be on the podcast at some point oh yeah that would be good when she's not sharing our secrets i'll be like kim they don't know about those things could you just uh yeah oh anyway babe should we um talk a bit about virgo because the virgo and um i've hopefully will prepare this in a way that's very Virgo because Virgos like detail. Virgos like to know the what, where, how and the every detail. So Virgos, bear with me because I'm not very Virgo.

OK, I only have a tiny, well, a tiny bit of Virgo in me, which is the energy that's very practical. Samantha, you have a lot of Virgo in you. Do you know that? Yeah, I think you've said that before. I want to say I have a Virgo rising. Yes, well done. Yes, I'm learning. And do you know what is funny?

My best friend at home, she's a Virgo rising she'll be listening hello Lisa um and you Virgo risings you do have a whole time of it okay actually there's a couple of clients you'll know because I know you listen um who are Virgo risings and some of you are Virgo sons as well it's it's a lot it's a lot yeah and maybe that's why we've spoken about therapy because I think every Virgo needs therapy not because there's anything wrong but because your brain is on the go yeah so let's get going so what are the traits and characteristics of Virgo energy now remember we all have Virgo in our chart like I say I have a little bit of Virgo some. Now, remember, we all have Virgo in our chart. Like I say, I have a little bit of Virgo. Some of you will be more prominent, some of you will relate, some of you will be like, Jess,

you're chatting rubbish. But this is what comes up for me with Virgo, okay? So the first thing I feel is it's quite critical of themselves at times of Virgo, okay? So there's definitely this feeling of being very detail orientated very analytical and what comes with that can be quite critical so I think it can be quite hard when you've got a lot of Virgo because I just think that's quite a hard thing to be feeling a lot of the time do you feel that Sam? The first time I ever had my chart um she said this to me about the Virgo and she was like it's the voice that's in your head that's like not very nice and I was like yes I have that voice like every day and it drives me up the wall yeah like every day I've got this like and I'm a very

positive person like I can see good in everything But I very much have to battle with this voice. I'm just laughing thinking about how much we've shared about our brain and the voices in our brain. We're either absolutely crazy or we're very relatable. And I don't know which one it's going to be, but we'll find out. I think we'll be very, very open and vulnerable, to be honest, to be sharing this much. But you know what?

It is what it is. You've caught me on a day we are recording on the lunar eclipse today so that's probably why that's probably why yeah yeah no i fully have that voice in my head that's very critical like i think i've actually said this before on the podcast like it can be a voice where i'm just like if i'm eating something bad i'm like you you're a fat bit like that's what I'll literally say to myself or like if I want to like honestly but that voice is just so awful because like I will just say things like like I even do it with the podcast where I'm like no one likes you like no one's listening to you why are you doing this like and I'll be like yeah why am I doing this or like I have sessions and I'm like yeah no one likes me they all think I'm stupid and I'm like why am I doing this like where is this coming from like yeah it's draining to say the least it was draining and you know what like it's so like not even rational that voice

because you wouldn't say you like you say you wouldn't go like oh you fat bitch like you know exactly you just wouldn't well you might but you know um so yeah so there's definitely that that self-criticism that comes with perfectionism as well so like it's all about perfectionism for Virgos and and what I mean is it's like high standards for themselves possibly for others and really focusing on your flaws because you want to improve you want to learn so I find with Virgos there's this fascination to learn to like really develop and like really push yourself in that way and I love that about Virgo. And do you know what?

I've had a lot of Virgo clients I've been working with just in general over the last sort of four or five months. And like I find with them that you have to really explain like the rationale towards everything. Like there's this real like I want to understand I need to know but why is it that you know there's something about all the information that makes sense yeah yeah yeah definitely so Virgo is obviously an earth sign so you know it's quite a grounded reliable energy more connected to the material world and like things and stuff

um and i would say it's like quite routine based and quite practical which is you know a really nice thing about virgo um i also find with virgo energy like it's quite service orientated like when we look at astrology the sixth house is the Virgo house and the sixth house is work service and daily routine so there's something about that that's associated with Virgo so you know helping others finding fulfillment in service you know it's like you know whether it's hard work whether it's daily tasks whether it's your washing up whatever it is you're in service with a Virgo energy so yeah does that also resonate for you so yeah yeah yeah definitely my grandma was a Virgo actually

and everything that you're um saying I'm like yes that was 100% her I just find with a Virgo there's this constant room for improvement with them and like no one else is expecting it of them but they're just sort of doing it themselves so like there's like a tidiness usually like again this is quite stereotypical but like like organization you know that sort of energy um process like it's all I think Virgo's great it's really reliable like if I was in a crisis I'd call you and my friend Lisa that Virgo rising's 100% like because I feel actually very good in it prices which is another ADHD sign yeah it is um but like I think it's that kind of like you can really in high pressure deliver so I like that and so you all need a virgo rising or sun or moon friend and so virgo is ruled by the planet mercury mercury is all about communication obviously we all love chatting

about mercury retrograde but anyone that has prominent virgo in their chart is going to be really affected by the retrogrades because it's it's happening more direct for them um especially if you're Virgo rising and Virgo sun yeah um so what else it's mutable it's flexible a bit like Pisces it's on the other side of the chart Pisces so there is this kind of like willingness to go with the flow to some degree with Virgo you know there's like a flexibility there um was you gonna say something no I was just thinking about other people that I knew who were Virgos a lot of my friends have actually had kids that are Virgos yeah yeah but I don't actually know many other adults other than my grandma who are Virgos like Virgo is really

spiritual um and I feel like it's not always perceived as spiritual but in my opinion it's one of the most spiritual ones so you know they I find it's like spirituality in a more practical way I find it's more like herbs and a bit more witchy like wanting to like sort of use the earth in your spiritual ways I don't know why but that's coming up for me and when I kind of think of more of like the Virgo witch it's like that kind of the trees the leaves the berries like things like that come up so there's something about like kind of growing your own food and it all being you know that sort of herbs and and you know I think cooking as well for some reason I feel like there's something about food with Virgos maybe that's to do with like routine and service but like yeah I find that there's

something to do with that which is interesting definitely a nice star sign yeah I'm sorry that's it Samantha they're all nice they're all different and i think like you'll you obviously have the shadow and light of of each zodiac and i think the self-critical is definitely the shadow and i think any virgo listening will be like yes and i think my grandma was a nightmare for that but also I think because you're so aware Virgos know their shadow too much like you know there are some zodiacs that are quite oblivious to their shadow they think they're amazing to some degree that's their shadow where with Virgo you know your shadow and you remind yourself of your shadow all the time it's that kind of thing and it's like actually

let's look at your light let's look at your feeling how good that is and let's look at your spirituality you know so you do find that so there is those sorts of things but it can be hard if you're with a Virgo because that expectation can then be put on to you sometimes with the shadow so there is an expectation of others you find can come up so something to be mindful of if you're listening and you've got Virgo kids or you've got a Virgo partner or your parents are Virgo and you kind of feel this like pressure like that that could come up it could be quite subconscious but that might be there um but at the end of the day we've all got big charts with lots going on so it really varies how things will show up but that's what I would say about Virgo so with that I do want to touch on the lunar eclipse energy

that's happening is that okay absolutely because it is wild and I'm really happy that you swore because my mum told me off for swearing on the podcast oh did she sorry Lindsay and actually while we're on it I need to give a shout out to Barbara swearing on the podcast oh did she sorry Lindsay and actually while we're on it I need to give a shout out to Barbara who listens to the podcast on her walks from my hometown hey Barbara um and mum was like oh I'm so sorry that Jess swears and Barbara said no they're keeping it real and Barbara I agree we're keeping it real but yes we are obviously Lindsay was like oh Jessez I'm just passionate sometimes if there's a topic where I really want to emphasize my point I might use the odd swear

word so sometimes it just slips off the tongue it does it does so yeah but I'm trying to be more more respectful to my mother's wishes however part of me also wants to rebel and swear more but that's not the right thing to do keep it real but anyway i love you mum um so lunar eclipse in pisces so we are recording this today on tuesday the 17th of september and this episode is going to come out on the friday okay so this is a few days after however you will still be in the eclipse portal so I want you to know about it and I want you to embrace it okay because we'll then have a solar eclipse happening in two weeks time okay so we're really in it and it's really intense and it's Pisces so what the theme is that's coming up is out with the old, in with the new. There's this kind of feeling of things leaving, things changing. So like,

for example, Sam, in your life, the fact that you are making some changes and how you approach your day. So Virgo rising is like daily routine and structure. Pisces is in the opposite side of your chart and that's where the eclipse is happening and it's trying to get you to look at your day how you you know what do you need to change in your day how can you better serve your day so that's sort of the story that's happening for you um which is cool it's interesting you're like okay that makes sense yeah spot on yeah it's also like a big thing about relationships right now okay there's sort of this connection to partnerships relationships with this eclipse now that doesn't have to be romantic it can also be friendships

it can be business it can be work it can be I don't know any other type of partnership you can have um and a lot can come up and a lot can change there and a lot can grow. Like it's not about people leaving. It can be that things really enhance. But what I would say is it's quite an internal time right now. It's not the time for deep conversations. It's not the time if you're feeling like you need some things emotionally, I'll just wait till next week because this feels so internal right now, what's happening with this eclipse, that like you're not, it's not fully clear. You don't know what you want. You don't know what you need because it's very uncertain.

And that clarity is going to arrive sort of around the weekend and just after. So that can be in, you know, whatever's shown up in your life and we have to surrender to it. There is sort of this pattern I'm sort of drawn to, which is when the eclipse has happened in Pisces in 2015. So, you know, there might be patterns from that time or people in your life. And this eclipse is now making changes or tidying things up, or facing some healing from that time that's showing up now. So that for me, I was, I got with my boyfriend that I was with at the time, August 2015, when the eclipse was happening.

You know, a lot of my triggers come from that relationship. And now I'm sort of having to face it in a different way right now. And it's a more healthier way. And it's like, okay, the way I can describe it is spirit of saying, we're about to start a new chapter. So I want you to just go back and check the house and check the rooms have you got everything are you leaving behind what you want to leave behind and are you ready now so it's like that final little checking of all that does that yeah yeah yeah yeah it does yeah so like see it as something that's so beautiful and trying to

help us and don't see it as something that's so beautiful and trying to help us and don't see it as something that's against you which I think we can easily go to can't we in these situations so so that's my guidance there um and yeah just there's not much you can do I think you've just got to observe that things will change I feel in this time I think things will will evolve and I think what's right for you will become really clear and what's not not right for you will leave that's what sort of energy right now um and your soul is speaking to you so listen to it yeah so there's my little yeah love that thanks so yeah I think I feel like this has probably been quite a long episode you know you know what i don't even know what time it is yeah 50 minutes about 45 minutes yeah about

45 minutes that's all right it's a nice juice for you all yeah and yeah i hope you enjoyed it i mean like i say i feel like this time that you said about is very intense. So hope everybody is good. And if you've related to a lot of the things that we've spoken about today, whether it's our ADHD brains, whether it's wanting to go to therapy or anything, then just tell us because we love just hearing whether or not you've resonated with it, you've enjoyed the episode um etc um we will be back next week thank you so much please like like like rate subscribe do all the fun things and if you want to get us on instagram we are at spiritually speaking underscore podcast at hair by samantha green and at jessica marie underscore holistic amazing well done babes

well thanks everyone for listening and sending you all lots of love over this eclipse season bye