Spiritually Speaking with Jessica & Samantha - What is a Spiritual Awakening?

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

In this enlightening episode of "Spiritually Speaking," Jessica and Samantha explore the transformative journey of spiritual awakening. They share their personal experiences, offering listeners a glimpse into the profound shifts that reshaped their lives. The discussion delves into the stages and signs of awakening, revealing how it can manifest in various ways, from subtle changes in awareness to life-altering revelations. Jessica and Samantha explain the emotions, challenges, and breakthroughs that often accompany this process, helping listeners understand what a spiritual awakening truly entails.Whether you're at the beginning of your spiritual journey or already on the path, this episode provides valuable insights into what a spiritual awakening feels like and how to navigate it. Jessica and Samantha discuss common themes such as heightened intuition, deep inner knowing, and a stronger connection to the universe and one’s true self. Tune in to learn how a spiritual awakening can lead to a more authentic, purposeful, and connected life.To follow the girls on socials - @spirituallyspeaking_podcast @jessicamarie_holisitic@hairbysamanthagreen

hello and welcome back to experientially speaking with me sam and with me jis hello i apologize i've got my um shitty headphones in again or they're not shitty they're actually very good headphones just not the best for um recording a podcast but i have actually ordered a new mic because obviously i left my mic in the UK um so that'll be here for the next time we record it's funny with airpods because like I find that phone calls they're really good but I can't voice note with airpods can you voice note with them um to be fair I probably do yeah I do but I don't think they're the best quality yeah like I find I end up taking them out and just using the phone for it yeah I don't really understand where the speak where the microphone is on them either yeah I don't know anyway that's boring chat but hi welcome back I think I just

forgot we were recording yeah I did and then I was like oh shit people listen to this and thank you so much to everyone who um replied to our polls on the Instagram story because it was just so helpful um just to hear what it is that you love on the podcast what it is you want to hear more of what it is you know that that you come back for basically and different topics suggestions there were so many good things on there and like I would love I don't know about you Jess I would love to have like people write in and give um questions and things like that um I always just thought for some reason that people wouldn't write in and give questions well I think someone did suggest that didn't they and I was like that's a great idea kind of like an agony aunt sort of um yeah like section yeah and I think we should do like a question poll obviously it wouldn't be anonymous because you would have to say who it is but we would keep it anonymous

um yes but we would yeah definitely I love it um yeah and we can help and it doesn't have to be anonymous so if you want to share tell us yeah you know so true or if you're just trying to work some life stuff out and want a bit of guidance from us both then yeah I think that would be a really nice segment on the episode yeah so if at any point you have got any questions like that please feel free to send them in and we will do our best to answer them um and chat about them on here we'll put it on the stories before we record like a day before and then if there's anything we can we can uh answer it yeah i'm hoping you can't hear my babies in the background by the way can you hear them no okay good i can hear them just like shouting literally oh my god so river was so close to saying mama yesterday really she went yeah she went and i was like just repeat it one more time

oh bless you oh and it was really really cute um i really don't have that much catch up on this week um we've recorded this not like only a few days after we recorded our last one so um yeah we haven't really got that much to chat about but we have a very exciting topic we do we do and actually you guys said you like the catch-up so sorry that we're not giving you it today but yeah there isn't anything we've asked you what you like you've told us and then we're not doing it but it's good to know because we were laughing because it was like maybe like everyone is just like god they chat shit and this is boring but clearly you all enjoy it so thank you we will continue to chat shit and then get on to the topic but today yeah we're gonna get straight straight in. So it's going to be a

nice one, isn't it? Yeah, so we're going to chat about spiritual awakenings. Yes, we are. So obviously, this is not my area of expertise at all. It's definitely Jess's. But we are going to chat all about it, really. And gonna ask jess some questions she's gonna explain it a little bit better because i don't really understand it um probably the same way as a lot of our listeners won't um so from what i gather a spiritual awakening might be what a lot of people who are listening to this podcast are kind of on the brink of I think so yeah they're a little bit interested there maybe they've bought a couple of crystals maybe they are manifesting maybe they are um journaling a bit more or you know they're starting to just be a little bit more aware of their thoughts and their surroundings and maybe their reactions to situations definitely absolutely so should I describe a bit about what I would

say a spiritual awakening is yeah yeah so I would definitely say we're always on one like I don't think it's like oh I had mine and I'm here, like I've completed it. I don't think you actually ever complete an awakening. I think what happens is you start to awake and then that just continues for the rest of your life. And I think once you are awake, you don't go back to sleep. I think, you know know you're always aware so what I would say with an awakening like you know the main thing really is you know you start to connect to something that's a more higher power something more spiritual so that your beliefs maybe start to change or your values might start to change from what they previously were.

And that can also be similar to like conditioning. Okay. So, you know, we've all been conditioned because we've all grown up. We were all children and conditioned. And then all of a sudden things start to spark in your mind and you think, hang on, I think I'm going to try this. You know, I know that I haven't been taught this, but I'm going to'm gonna try this you know that's kind of like the energy of an awakening okay and you know it's sort of something that's a more inner knowing than like going to church I would say like it's

it's more of you know this feels right I'm gonna sort of go with it and it can happen at any point in your life it doesn't have to happen when you're young you know it can happen when you're older it can it might not ever happen um but there's no kind of rule book to it if that makes sense yeah I also find that like it can kind of make you re-evaluate your goals when you're on an awakening okay so if you are experiencing one right now then you might start to sort of see some shifts in your mind so maybe in you know you're looking at your life choices and your career choices your relationship choices your goals know, and you might start to change them. You know, you might start to find that alignment to yourself where you're like,

actually, do I want loads of money? Or is that always what I've been told is successful? You know, because I think for me, as part of my awakening was, you know, get a job, work harder and money. And then all of a sudden, that voice was like, what a load of fucking bollocks. Like, I'm pretty sure I'm not here to live life like this. And, you know, and then my goal changed. I didn't want to be, you know, corporate career. I wanted time. I wanted freedom, freedom you know so my goals did change in my awakening so it's that sort of stuff um you tend to be feeling like I'd say more sensitive you know you're a bit more aware um you know it's like you're sort of connecting again to that higher power so there's definitely that sort of stuff going on. And, you know, I think for me as well, when I think about my sort of awakening,

which is obviously still ongoing, it's just constantly like the release of old patterns, you know, like reflecting on behaviours and making those changes because it's like you're reconditioning yourself into this aligned version. So I think you're just finding yourself really just on a more soul level yeah I feel like I'm trying to think back to when I feel like that probably happened for me and I think I um when I was 19 I went to Australia on my own and I remember at the time that was the most bonkers thing to be doing.

Like it didn't make sense. Like I was in a relationship with Andy, who was in university at the time. And so he couldn't come with me. So I was in this like long-term relationship because we'd been together at that point for like two years. But I was going to Australia and we stayed together. And none of my friends would come with me. None of my friends had been me none of my friends had been none of my family had been to Australia like it was a completely random thing to be doing but it

just felt right I was like I need to go and experience something different to what I'm experiencing now because I love my job and I love working but there's got to be something else to this yeah yeah I was so sure of it and I'm so glad that I did do it because I do think that was probably what mine was like the beginning of it anyway yeah and I and I think when I think back to my sort of awakening I think for me it wasn't so much um like a physical change it was more of a in my mind like the voice kept being like is this life like and that's quite depressive but like I had many many thoughts of like if this is it it's fucking boring like you know but I think that's where it where it's good to show it can be so different for

everyone yeah you know like you say you can it can be more a case of realizing oh wow is this my life and is this what it's always going to be like yeah or it could be this little voice that maybe says to you you're destined for something bigger or better or change or are you really happy and like you say I think it just really makes you start to question everything that's going on around you yeah and and I think that was probably what happened for me and I and I think that questioning happens for a long time and I think that phase of it can can can be there your whole life if you don't do something with yeah and and you know you see people like we all know people who've got that and have had that definitely yeah so it's like you're being spoken to so I you know I like I keep

I keep getting this vision in my head of me in my old flat, you know, where I lived near my parents. And, like, this was probably, like, COVID times and, you know, we're all drinking lots of wine. And, like, I used to just sit on the floor a lot, like, because I feel like you just had so much time in your home. Like, you didn't always want to sit on your sofa. Like, it was just, like like a bit of mixing it up I just remember sitting there thinking like I don't think this is my

this isn't I'm not in I'm not aligned I'm not living purposefully you know I really felt that and I remember thinking like I feel stuck in this mortgage I feel stuck in my job and like nothing about my life actually makes me happy like I really remember feeling like I like like you know I was was really low at that point um but like in that moment like there was a sense of hope like there was something which I think is part of this awakening that's like well fuck it you got nothing to lose then have you you know like that was kind of what was there and I was like yeah why not you know and yeah so I think you can feel very very stuck at the beginning and I think it can be really uncomfortable um but you know usually that's what it takes to be honest so yeah yeah that was

sorry I was just thinking then that was exactly how I felt because all my friends had gone to university Andy was in university and I was just still working I'd worked since I was 14 yeah and I was like this can't be it now yeah yeah because it's like it's mental like sam when you think about it right monday to friday nine to five sitting at a desk i know everyone's job's not like that i knew you were standing up at a chair doing hair and whatever but like yeah i'm sorry but i really don't think that whoever whether it was god that made this world or whatever the purpose was for us all to be here i really don't believe it was that I agree and like yeah so it's that's what conditioning is okay conditioning is that this thing has been made and we've all followed it and the odd person questions it

and obviously I have and I live my life very differently to that version of me a few years ago and it's scary it's bold it's also brave but honestly if you all knew me five years ago you wouldn't believe like that was my life you know and I and I think there'll be loads of you listening who are probably at this phase of the awakening where you're a bit stuck and feeling like there's kind of like, what do you do next? And I think that's kind of like that first phase of it. And I think that's OK. And like you, you took action. I took action. Yeah.

And you can, you can, can sorry you can also be happy within your life when this is happening like it doesn't have to be that you know everything is like oh wow I don't like any of this like it might just be that you might not love your job or it might just be that you don't love where you live or you might be at it with a friendship group we've spoken about it in that sense before like there's there's different aspects of how you might feel it to begin with and then maybe they all trickle down together um definitely but it there's different I would say everybody probably has it in a slightly different way yeah and I would say my way was more intense because I think there was a greater purpose for me to share my voice to to be a healer, to really share my psychic abilities.

So like there was a bit more responsibility, I feel, in my soul that I had to do this and kind of be a bit of a lead by example where for some of you that won't be your awakening. It will be, like you say, maybe an element of your life, not your whole life, um yeah so you know you'll all have different ways of sort of looking at this or you may just reflect on a time where you felt quite heavy or things weren't going the way you wanted and you know so you know it an awakening is something that like I say never goes away So when I speak about that time where I was really low,

just like you when you were 19 in Australia, like, you know, that then kind of is the start. And then you kind of build that toolkit, like we kind of spoke in the last episode, how you sort of grow your toolbox of stuff. You kind of then start to realize that the awakening just continues and evolves and it's like you never stop doing the work and I think that that's something that people get quite frustrated with especially with clients that I work with they tell

me how tired they are like I'm not seeing the rewards and I'm I'm doing all this work and it's it's that never-ending um have you ever felt like that um yeah yes I I'd say I have I've always been so motivated that I've never had an end goal like there's always been one past it so for me personally I could work like relentlessly but I know what it's for and I know that even if what it's next for it's for the next thing so I've never completely had that feeling like that but I wouldn't I would work obviously an insane amount when I look back. Like, it was long, long, long hours where, yeah, I would feel like, oh, I'm doing all this and I'm getting nothing back from it. I probably felt it, actually, if I'm being honest.

Mine was probably less in a professional way and more in a personal way. Okay. I'd love to hear, like, more about what that would be. Would you share it? Yeah, yeah. Like, mine would be, yeah share it yeah yeah like mine would be yeah in fact 100% mine's not in a professional way it's completely in a personal now that I'm starting to think of it I've had it with friendships where I feel like I'm just putting so much into all these friendships and I feel like I'm not getting anything back or I might have it in um even even really in a sense of when I was in the UK as well probably feeling like I was constantly putting so much effort into things but nothing just really felt like it was

benefiting I don't know I feel like I'm struggling to explain this that's okay when I then actually took this step to move over here it was like everything that made sense. Okay. So like, so like when I was, so when I was, sorry, when I was younger,

I would do everything in terms of, I do mobile hairdressing. I'd work in a salon. I would do weddings. I would do makeup. I would do everything to try and like build my business and become more successful. And, um, you know, try and challenge that. business and become more successful and um you know try and challenge that

speaking of it again sorry and like more on the business side of it but then it wasn't really until I took the step to come here that then it all came together yeah so a lot of hard work a lot going on and then kind of a bold move that felt probably quite intuitive really sort of led you to like a bit more like oh that all now makes sense why that happened yes yeah definitely yeah yeah yeah no I get that yeah and I think maybe but sorry go on sorry just definitely the feeling of what you were saying before about like have I ever felt like that in terms of feeling like you're putting a lot into something or you're constantly working at something I definitely had felt that with more like the relationships in my life definitely which is

interesting and you know when you think about your chart and where your Pisces moon is is in your seventh house which is relationships and a Pisces moon is an emotional moon so like there is a part of your soul that wants you to really like explore relationships on a one-on-one basis and like how much you give how much you give and things like that so that is definitely I'd say part of your soul's purpose and awakening in this life yeah yeah and I think for me on a personal level like it would you know probably similar to you like a lot of my goals have worked out quite well with career since I moved to my business. But when I was corporate, I wanted to succeed so much and I wouldn't get jobs. I'd be like, for fuck's sake, like this job is made for me and I wouldn't get it.

Relationships and, you know, feeling like what more have I got to do to like find a soul mate um and feeling like it's exhausting and that you know that's definitely a big part I think that's gone on for me um and and you know I'd say a lot of my clients it's probably more to do with relationships wanting that partner and feeling like that part of their life is lacking and I think the awakening is is a lot to do with that and and let me give a bit of perspective why I think relationships take longer when you're on an awakening not everyone some people will be in relationships but I think for a lot of women who struggle with that side and me being one of them um I think it's to do with the witch wound and I think it's the fact that we have had to suppress ourselves for so many generations and I think that we have to really fully step into our power

and that is so triggering for us to really be bold and brave and because society has this conditioning that like you can do these things when a man's in your life or a partner's in your life it kind of makes us go I'll do it when I get married or do it when I have kids I hear that a lot and I think they they want us to do it before then and I felt that for me I felt like I had to do this before I had a relationship and before I had children because it was really important that I found my purpose before someone came along that I could lean on. That would be the biggest thing I'd say. And I'd say that's been a big focus for me with my self-development with with my spiritual side is for future me because future me will be grateful for this so hopefully that makes sense

but I think for a lot of people they can feel that on an awakening very lonely and if you're not in a relationship or even if you are in one you can feel incredibly lonely when you go through this now I really understand you that's how it feels at times Sam I also think you had another element to your awakening with motherhood as well I feel like your your outlook completely changed on a lot of things so everything yeah so I do think as much as you you had that when you were younger I was thinking about you and I was reflecting and I feel like you've had a huge awakening like there is a new pair of lenses of how you look at the world I think a lot of mothers but really seeing you definitely do and even like going back to when in the last episode when we were talking about you watching that documentary for example on Netflix and I was like I can't

watch it my sister actually I was on the phone for last night and she was like she said she was almost like shouting at the phone when she was listening to the podcast because she was exactly the same and she said it's since being a mum like you then you do you have these different lenses and like I'm so much more empathetic than I ever was yeah um because I'm not the most emotional person and I used to you know if other people were like getting emotional all the time I'd be like come on like yeah you know because that's not in me to be like that but now I'm complete opposite because I'm so much more aware of how it can feel to feel like that and yeah definitely yeah yeah I completely agree yeah yeah so so that that that would be sort of my perspective on what a spiritual awakening is um do you think that makes sense

yeah I do I feel like it's a bit of a shift in you yeah um and it's like are you ready for a shift yeah yeah feeling of like I'm ready for something something's ready to change yeah and I think it's like, are you ready for a shift? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that feeling of like, I'm ready for something, something's ready to change. And I think it's good to show that they can be positive and it can be maybe not the most positive as well. Yeah, definitely. Like there's an element of love and light and heaviness at the same time, you know?

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So what would be like, well, what's this shadow work as well isn't there yeah and I think the shadow work is probably the bit that people don't get to sometimes and that's where they can get a bit stuck so the shadow work you know shadow work is thrown around a lot and and it's basically inner work and seeing the shadow of yourself okay now it's quite impossible to to see your shadow uh it's not something you can just do like it involves observation stepping back um and seeing things in yourself that maybe you've never seen before so that conditioning that stuff

like for example like when I have a husband I'll set up my business then when I'm when I'm a mom you know all that stuff I said that's shadow that's conditioning that's something that I've been told is the only way I can build a business you know and I did actually believe that and then I was like fuck that I don't need that you know so then I saw my shadow that you know I expected to rely on someone to like build this so like that that's a shadow for example but also like my shadow um can be my limiting beliefs and my thought process and I think to see that you then have to really reflect on childhood and the way that you were brought up and like the beliefs of your parents whether you you followed a religion, all that sort of stuff. You kind of have to go into the shadow and not look at yourself. It's not about not looking at yourself

in a positive light, but we know what we're good at. Do you know what? You might not tell people, but you do know what you're good at. You do know what you like about yourself, whether that's you're funny, you're pretty, pretty you're smart or you're good at cooking it doesn't matter you know there are things that you're good at but you might not like to admit the things you're not as good at so maybe you're impatient yeah I wouldn't admit it maybe you're stubborn and you don't want to admit it like it's those sorts of things and what you start to do with shadow work is you don't shame it so like you know for me I'm a people pleaser that's a shadow okay so I don't say oh for god's sake it's so annoying I'm like oh that part of me needs love because it just

wants validation so then what I do is I go into my shadow of people pleasing I start to explore that and I'm like oh that's someone that just wants validation okay well how am I how can I work through that so that I don't need that validation like why do I need validation is it because I had parents always told me I was doing a good job like yeah so then when I got older I thought that was still the case doesn't always happen you know so then so like you start to like explore things and look at that so my parents would also give me feedback like they were very fair but like you know there's there's so many things that can come up for you so you start to look at the the more negative parts of you so say for example you're really stubborn right

and people say oh you're so stubborn but you don't want to admit it you know actually look at it yeah I am stubborn and I'm gonna I'm gonna try and love that part of me and be like, okay, I'm stubborn and go back to the child of you. Okay. And go into that child and be like, why are they stubborn? And it's probably because you're feeling out of control. So you're trying to control a situation. Most people that are are stubborn that's why they're doing it and then you can sort of like ah okay it's about control it's not about being difficult it's because I feel out of control and I now need to start like looking after that part of me and actually start focusing on those things instead of being like I'm a really good psychic I'm just

going to develop that and be amazing at that and be an absolute arsehole the rest of the day no yeah psychics good all right that doesn't need much attention let's go to the fact that you're trying to please people let's go to the fact that you know you're really insecure about this you know so that's what shadow work is a lot you know it's what you do in therapy it's what you do with a coach you know you start to look at those parts of yourself does that make sense yeah like mine yeah mine would definitely be like that I'm impatient and that I live life like I am on a treadmill yeah um on the highest speed and that's not always a bad thing but it can be because I can miss things because

I'm just focusing on the next thing and not focusing on where I am now but that's something that again from motherhood and from everything else I really have taken I would say as well like not to toot my own trumpet whatever the phrase is but I have done a lot of self-development work like even before me and Jess met so like I was so stubborn and I did take a lot of right okay I need to like change some of my behaviors and I was very aware of a lot of the way that I could behave in certain situations and I do feel like I've done a lot of work in that sense but yeah now I can take a lot more time to be present than be that on a treadmill but I can quite easily get back onto that treadmill so then guide myself off it so like that that's where that awakening happens so what

happens is if you're on and lots of people are on that treadmill and lots of people don't know how to get off the treadmill so you're on it daily life work shopping for the food dinners wherever you've got all this life wherever it is whatever your life's at right and you're on this treadmill and it's going so fast that like you're scared to get off it because if you get off it you're going to drop something and then if you drop something you're a failure you know so what I find with people that are on the treadmill are going a million miles an hour there is also an element of people pleasing to that there is an element that you have got to be a perfectionist and the good girl in every element of your life yeah which is conditioning because women have been told that we should be working

boss baby careers and being a earthy mother and being a mom at the same time and all this bollocks I'm not being funny it's bullshit like we can't be all those things so you know it's like that's why there's burnout so often you know that's that's where it comes from but that's also conditioning so you know we're then conditioned to be sort of that perfect woman and I think the awakening makes you realize you don't need to be you know yeah I said to Andy the other day I said I've got literally no work done today I said I've been a great mom yeah and that's it you know and I'm okay with that and I think that that's sort of where these things come from so like as much as this is a spiritual awakening I think it's just a human

awakening I think it's actually living this human experience with your eyes wide open realizing that you're here for an experience um yeah so yeah so that's how I would describe shadow but shadow can be very heavy and really uncomfortable. And I think, you know, when I go back to that time when I was sitting on my kitchen floor, that was the heaviest shadow I've had. But at that point, I hadn't done any work. So like, I thought that was my life forever. And then once I kind of worked through that and I needed help I needed therapy that was not like something I could do on my own that then made me realize that when the shadow

appears now which it still does because that's normal that I can problem solve it I can feel it and I can surrender to it more and that's okay yeah so would you say then if somebody was feeling like that the first steps to take would you say then that that's something to do definitely get some help absolutely there's nothing wrong with it and like you know I'm a big advocate for that whether it's spiritual help whether it's a therapist, whatever suits you really. But yeah, I would definitely work with somebody to start looking at like your limiting beliefs and like your negative behaviors to, to sort of move through that because you know what you find with anyone you

work with on a one-on-one level in that way is you can, they can see things that you can't it's the same with me like when I work with my clients on this stuff you know we see you know when we start sort of talking something I will say could be like life-changing for them that they've never noticed before you know and that can be the golden nugget that really does make changes. And that's exactly what my therapist did with me. She just activated something that I couldn't do on my own. Yeah, it's good to have that help and have that outside help as well, like outside knowledge.

Do you know what I mean? Like somebody looking in on a situation rather than being in it. But also when someone looks in who's not in your family and in your friendship group and knows everyone in your life it's it's such a clearer outlook they can really see your full process they can really see it so it's so easy but you know when we chat with our friends you know I know I always you know the last episode is I have a chat with your mates about this and whatever. And that's great. But sometimes you just need someone completely isolated to help you work through something.

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, definitely. And I think also as well, like just break it down a little bit. So if you are in that feeling of, you you know I'm on the brink of something that needs to change then do just break it down into smaller steps so think about you know where exactly are you unhappy or where do you feel like you could be happier and then okay go from there what do you think would make you happier how do you how does your ideal day look and if your ideal day looks completely different to what

it is now then right okay there's quite a lot of change that needs to happen if it's only a little bit then there's just a few little things that might need to change and I think that's where we get stuck is we don't look at the step that's the first one we look at the end goal and I think that's the problem so like when we think about leaving like a corporate job or changing industry or whatever you're like oh fuck that feels so far away that's so impossible but maybe setting up an Instagram page getting a bit of a buzz for like your passion could be the starting point and maybe then the podcast you know whatever it is you know it can lead you to that so yeah yeah I agree definitely um and what would you say then advice if someone is wanting to if someone's feeling that way

I think really my advice is you you know keep going don't give up. Like, is it said than done? But, you know, it really is life changing when you sort of do this work. You know, I'd like to say I would work with someone, I would try and find a community that's spiritual or connecting to your beliefs. And, you know, I joined a circle back in the UK when I was going through mine and I felt really held by the women there they were all had way more wisdom than me they were all more knowledgeable than me and that's exactly what I needed in that moment and it's really important to me that whatever circle I'm in like that there's people that know so much more than I know like I don't like being the you know you know put yourself in in situations where you have to grow um and also it shows you that it's possible

and it shows you that it can be done um so yeah definitely that um what else would I say um you know finding small practices that are more spiritual for you so like you know it could be like implementing meditation into your day um you know it could be those things now you know when I say about therapy and stuff like not everyone can afford that like it's not something that everyone can do so like you know it might be harder to sort of like access that sort of help and and that's hard because I wouldn't say I had loads of money when I was going through therapy it was just my job paid for it at the time otherwise I couldn't have afforded that so you know it's it's then sort of absorbing information where you can so like listening to the podcast like you know getting information there like even like patreon like you know not to like sell the services but like

joining like a you know things like my membership can help you get like more in that educational stuff there's a lot on youtube you know there's ways to access books. There's so much ways to access information that doesn't cost you money, or if it does, not much, because, you know, you don't need to spend loads of money. It can help, you know, if you've got the money and you can invest in yourself, yeah, do it. But if you haven't, you know, that's your soul's purpose here. Your soul has decided it wants to do it in a different way

and like for me for example I haven't had loads of coaches teach me and I haven't had loads of money to invest in myself because I've been growing my own business so a lot of my education has come through mentors you know going to circles more group environments those sorts of things I used to go to like clever white nights a lot as well back home like they're always in the village halls like sort of putting yourself in those sorts of spaces you're going to find more like-minded people you'll probably talk to the person next to you they're normally like a fiver do you know what I mean it's this yeah like that I would say um that sort of stuff yeah I think taking yourself out your comfort zone as well I think that tends to help because I think that you are a product of your environment

yeah definitely but I do think that when when you're stuck, these things can feel very difficult to do that. So like for you to push yourself out of your comfort zone, it might just have to start with small things. Don't go big, you know. Yeah, it could just be like journaling even. Yeah, yeah. And like you said meditation yeah definitely or you know what you can start off as simple as every day you know you drive to work and just do you know what drive a different route take a different turn in like just allow your brain to do something slightly different in your

morning routine say you go for a walk every day and you walk out your road and you turn right I want you to walk out your road and turn left and literally you will feel like oh like and just realize it's okay you know it's something like that's actually a really good bit of advice it's so honestly like when I lived in Dubai Hills you know like the park I would every day start a different place and I wouldn't let my brain go into like that habit um because it was pushing it and it was helping it grow so it's just little things like that you know go around the supermarket I know you want to go to the frozen bits last but maybe like you know fuck it maybe don't rush it maybe start in the middle maybe start with the biscuits

because they're your favorite thing like sometimes it can just be like changing such a simple thing and it gives you a bit of a like oh okay because we're on autopilot so much in our life you know we're rushing and things like that. So slowing down as well. I remember, sorry, when we were chatting about this the other day as well, you mentioned about angel numbers. Ah, yes. So like angel numbers and those sorts of signs.

So like people definitely will receive signs in their awakening. Angel numbers is a big one. So you start to see them. So like you feel like spirit are connecting to you which they definitely are I find when you're at the start of an awakening you get loads of signs because they're like we're here we're here we're here I actually don't get as many now because I just feel like they're there all the time like they don't really need to yeah they haven't got validated to me. I just, they're there. But when you're working it out a lot, you'll just get things, numbers, feathers, feelings, tingles, premonitions, visions, and you're just like, oh my God, you know?

Yeah. And when you say about like how mine was around the time of obviously motherhood, I'd had the girls on 2224 yeah my sister's baby was born on 22 no sorry 2224 wait because it was the 22nd of april 24 so 22424 and then she was born at 2244 oh my god so it's like yeah yeah it was like so many angel numbers were around us at that time it was really really weird yeah that's crazy love that yeah so like those sorts of things will be around um I find like like doors like door frames I tend to find spirit hang out door frames a lot so you sort of catch

things in the corner of your eyes a bit more hallways things like that you might start to sense um and yeah you might be dreaming a bit more so you might be getting more things in your dreams um so yeah so that's sort of like the stuff that I would sort of see and be like okay like you're definitely you know when people come to me like like I do a spiritual development programs, people come and work one on one with me. And they're at that point, you know, and they're like, Oh, Jess, like I see angel numbers, I have this and I feel like spirit closer. And that's sort of at the point they're at. And then we sort of expand it it more and it is such an excitable time for people like when you start to see those things from spirit it becomes a bit addictive

um so you do see that excitement which is really nice oh I'm excited I want people to message us you know if they've related to any part of this and also then if anything has um changed for them yeah yeah like it'd be nice to know what people's signs from spirit are I think you know we do tend to get the the usual ones um and it's lovely like it really is validating um but yeah I think really just just to finish off with like spiritual awakenings and like and I think if I could give myself a bit of advice at that time when I felt so stuck and confused and I think people will be feeling like that, I just want to say that your life will change for the better and you will feel so present and so

much more content in your life. And the harder times will never feel as hard as they were because you start to realize there's a bigger purpose as to why you're here and why you're experiencing all these things. And it helps you face those battles with so much more power and and strength so you know it is okay to be not okay and you can get a lot from it and there is a lot of love and light in spirituality I know people say oh when people say that it's a load of bollocks honestly my life is is is so much more beautiful now than it ever was like you know I see things with so much more gratitude I see things with ease and and I'm so much more accepting and I never had that before and I would never want to go back to I love that version of me but I would never ever want to go back there like I only ever want to move forward now because

I just feel like life is like really worth living and I small stuff like it's fucking great you know yeah so no that's lovely yeah well what a nice way to end the podcast that's lovely love it girl I hope you all enjoyed listening and We are actually going to have a break next week because Jess is going on a little holiday, finally. I'll be in the jungle. Holiday within the, yeah. I'm excited to hear all about that. I have got a million and one things going on with my business,

which hopefully there's some more progression on that when I next chat to you all. But thank you so much for listening. Like we said, if you do have any questions questions you want us to chat about anything in particular please always slide into the dms um we are at spiritually speaking underscore podcast on instagram I am at hair by Samantha Green she is at jessicamarie underscore holistic yes and thank you so much for listening and I'd just like to say that if this resonates with you and you're at this point in your life please reach out if you feel drawn to it you know there's ways that we can work together if it you know you are feeling stuck

there's also patreon which is on my instagram so just take a little butchers get a feel um and i'm here the door is open because you know we don't want to do these things on our own we just need to find our spirit i agree yeah all right well lots of love and feel the feels bye