Spiritually Speaking with Jessica & Samantha - What Just Happened?! Reflecting on 2025 (So Far)

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

2025 has already been full on – emotionally, energetically, astrologically. So in true Spiritually Speaking style, we’re taking a moment to pause, breathe, and reflect.As always, it begins with Jess and Sam’s catch up talking about all things hormones and good deeds. And then we dive deep into reflection, asking each other – and the Tarot cards:🔮 What have the past four months taught us?🌒 What was difficult, and what were the hidden lessons?🌞 What actually went well?🧭 And where are we focusing our energy as we move ahead?From big life changes to quiet revelations, we’re talking about what’s been rising collectively and personally, and what it’s all been trying to show us.So if you’ve also felt like the universe has been shaking things up lately – this one’s for you. Come reflect with us.

Hello and welcome back to Spiritually Speaking with me Sam and with me Jess. Welcome back. Welcome back everybody. We are suffering with some technical difficulties today but we are hoping that this episode is gonna be absolutely fine and gonna get out. We're putting all the good vibes out there aren't we babes? We did do a little, well I just did a little prayer in our record that I tried to do before. I also have just come on my period and I feel like literally about an hour and a half ago, which was unexpected. But you know, when you start to just like, I haven't got period pains or anything, but I feel like I'm struggling

to like move my mouth and like all my energy is just a bit like, you know, just day one of the bleed and you're just a bit meh. Yeah, so sorry if I'm slightly, um, periody. I don't know what hormonal. That is grim. Grim. Oh dear. Oh, babe. So where are you right now?

So I'm in Phuket. So I'm back in Thailand. I'm trying to think when we last recorded, where was we? You were in the Philippines. Yeah, Philippines. Yeah. Philippines. Yeah. So I was on an island called Koh Lanta.

I met my friends from Dubai, which was really nice. Loved Koh Lanta and feel like there's some little manifesting of some potential, Sam's trying to hold her young, so that just really made me laugh. It just happens every now and then. I just can't like hold it in. It's not that the story's boring because it's not. That's boring. But you know, so Koh Lanta is the first island that I've been to that's very chill. Like I feel like I've been in more busier places of Thailand. So it's very chilled and I thought this would be a perfect place to like have a retreat, but like a home

and a retreat, which is always on the plan. So I was like, wow, a home as well. Yeah. Like I feel like if I was so like the goal is in over the next sort of five years is to like find the place I want to live hopefully before five years, maybe in the next three years, find some land somewhere and build a retreat of some sort, but do it on my homes or in my home, you know, on the land, I guess. And Koh Lanta felt like a good vibe. Oh, you actually did say that as like one of your

lifetime goals ages ago, I think on one of the episodes. Oh really? You just see yourself, yeah you did. You said, and I think you maybe thought that it would be more like Sri Lanka, but you said that you would have somewhere like a house with land and animals. Yeah, I definitely see it.

I just can't work out where it is, but when I was in Koh Lanta, I thought this would be a, oh bloody hell, can't get words out. This would be a good place to do it. Oh my God, I generally feel like I have got about 5% battery, I'm so sorry. Really, that bad? I don't know what's happened to me.

I feel like- Does it drain you that much? See, I don't really feel that like, I don't think when I'm on my period, it doesn't really affect me to be honest. So my periods have been changing. So they used to be like 32 day cycles. They've gone back down to 28 recently.

I used to be 28 days, but I've been doing some work on my cycles. I've been working with a healer and I've been having abdominal massages to help with like the acid. So I don't have as bad period, I literally don't have period pains anymore like I used to. And sorry, I'm going to talk about actual blood now. So if you don't like this, just move past it. It's just period talk. When your period is healthy, it's a bit like when you were a teenager having periods

where it's quite fresh, quite pink. I didn't read mine. Mine are always quite dark. They're very heavy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd say the same to be fair. But to be fair, my last one was just like red. So red. That's good because it's fresh there. But obviously I have endometriosis. So like what you find is blood gets really stored and that might take a long time to shed. So like there's a darker blood.

But what I've noticed with the work I've been doing really consciously is I've been having really good periods, very fresh periods and like nice and regular and the cycles kind of gone back to what it used to be. But yesterday and today I've just felt really, really tired and I think now my periods come, I just want to get in bed. Oh, but I'm really happy to be recording. Yeah, she really wants to be here guys. Yeah. I just, you know, when you come on and this is the benefits of my life is that normally, well, I'm not working today.

This isn't work really is it? It's lovely to be with you, but normally I just chill out. Do you know what I mean? I listen to my body. Yeah, cycles are there. But anyway, but what that does mean is those of you in Dubai, I'm going to be ovulating when I'm in Dubai. So you're going to be like, she is God damn gorgeous that girl.

She's so symmetrical. what a sexy babe. But that also will mean I'll be on top form for my readings. And I think so far there's like over 30 of you having readings. So every silver lining. Absolutely. Yeah. So you are coming to Dubai, when do you leave next week?

Yeah, a week today I leave. So I'll be getting into Dubai 2nd of May. Yeah. I think. And then I've got a workshop on the 3rd of May. I'm actually gonna do, I don't normally do this, but I'm gonna do it. On Saturday, the 3rd of May, I've got a workshop at Kiani for spirit guides.

So it's all about how you connect to like your angels, loved ones in spirit. So if you wanna come, look on my Instagram, there's the contact details. And then the following week I'm doing one on your third eye awakening. And basically that's just like activating your intuition. I also have a small handful of one-to-one readings left. So if you feel drawn to book in, I'd definitely do it because they are really pretty much booked out now, which is great.

So they're obviously in person. Like you can't have the option for zoom with that. No zoom. Sorry. Um, people that aren't in Dubai, it would just be in persons, but I am going to open up a window for people that aren't in Dubai for zooms over the summer. Um, a small window. Yeah. for people that aren't in Dubai for Zooms over the summer. A small window. Oh nice.

Yeah, I feel like I should be fair and give everyone a chance, not just people in person. So yeah, so that's me, but like I said, I'll be ovulating, so I'll be on fire. On top form. Yeah, how are you? Where are you? Where are you in the world, Sam?

Where am I? I'm in my meeting room. Yeah, I don't really move around the world literally at the moment. I just go from between home and the salon. I don't even really move around Dubai to be honest. That sounds like a village. Yeah, no, it is. It's, it's the phase that I'm in and I'm all right with that. But yeah, I am in the salon right now recording this and I'm here quite a lot

actually this week. It's actually the salon's third birthday this week. Is it? Happy birthday. That's mad. Yeah, yeah it is. This weekend it is the third birthday, which is crazy really. That is crazy. A reflection. Yeah, it's a lot has happened in that time. A lot. Yeah, a lot. Yeah, a lot. Well done. Yeah, thank you.

So we've got a little team meeting on Friday and then we're going out on Sunday as a team. So that'll be nice to celebrate it. And yeah, I've been making some changes on reflection of the fact that it's turning three. And it's really nice. It's a nice feeling to be honest. It's funny, isn't it?

Cause like when I opened, I remember feeling so exhausted. Like it was another level of exhaustion, but I had to carry on because I had just opened. So, and I was the only stylist. I didn't have anyone else working for me when I opened. I literally worked every day, nine till nine. And I'm really glad that I did that, obviously, but it's just funny looking back at that time.

And I remember I never did an opening party or anything because I was just so drained. I was so tired. And I was just like, and I didn't have any money left to be able to do one anyway. And now it's, yeah, it's lovely looking back and kind of seeing where it's got to. Absolutely, like you've done amazing.

Like it's lovely, I love an anniversary. I think it's really important to reflect. Same with birthdays as well. Like it's just a really special time to look at what you've done and to think like what you were doing, you know, grafting and now how you've got, you know, a whole team of people working for you.

You've obviously expanded with the nails. Like it's brilliant. It's amazing. Yes, yeah. No, I'm very, very happy. We started with three staff, that's me included, and now the 16, so. Well done, babes.

Yeah, and it's only gonna grow more than that, so. No, it will. I'm really glad. I'm very happy with that. What else have I been up to? We've had Andy's mom and dad here for a little bit. I don't know if I spoke about that last time. I can't remember. But that was nice.

Having them here was very, very lovely. Although River has just started this phase of like clinginess. So like she grabs to you and like wraps the legs around you when you hold her and like if you go to put her down she throws herself back and screams and you just like oh my god and like I always kind of prided myself on the fact that my kids were constantly they're not held all the time do you know what I mean? Obviously there's two of them but now she's gone so clingy. So that was a little bit hard

because I felt a little bit bad for them because she just didn't really wanna go to them. But by the end, by the middle of the end, she was all right. But yeah, I couldn't really be around and then be there with her because she'd wanna go to me. Yeah.

Aw. But yeah, and also like I've spent so much time with them on a one-on-one basis recently that I think that also obviously added to it. So it's just a phase, isn't it? It's just a phase at the moment. So that's that. Yeah.

And, oh God, I did, I had a really nice thing yesterday, didn't I? Do you remember I said your voice now? Yeah. So yesterday I did a good deed and I basically, really randomly, I have a group chat with the community that I live in and there's about, I don't know, two or 300 people in this group chat.

Or, well, it's two or 300 houses. I actually don't know how many people are in the group chat, but it's in my archive, I never check it. And I just happened to check it for some reason while I was brushing my teeth in the morning. And this woman had wrote in it, is anyone available between eight and 8.30 to do an injection?

And straight away I thought, oh, she is obviously going through fertility treatment because you have to do your injections at a specific time every day. And I remember that from when I was doing it. And I was a little bit nervous because I thought if this is fucking as epic or Manjaro, you can get stuffed, I'm not doing it for you.

I'm not saying that, you know, I think bad of people that are doing it but I thought I'm not coming to do that for you, or you get someone else. Yeah, different for fertility treatment. Yeah, exactly. So anyway, so I just messaged her and I said, like I can help you,

but I needed to leave for work at 20 past eight. So, and she was like, oh, I'm going to be home at 25 past eight. So I was like, right, okay. And I thought, no. And she said to me it's for IVF. And I was like, no, she needs my help. So I rang my manager at the salon. She was like, she could open up. So that was fine.

So I went around to this woman's house. I'd never met before. I couldn't even tell you her name. And did her injection. Now I thought that it was her daily one, which is a much smaller needle. It's still obviously hard to do. Like, I couldn't do them myself, by the way.

Andy did them all for me, I didn't do them. So the fact that I then all of a sudden thought I was God and could do this for someone else is hilarious. Get there, just before I get there, I text Andy and I was like, do you have any advice? Because he did all of mine, like as in like the angle or what you do. And he just said to me, be confident.

He said, don't show that you're nervous cause she's going to be way more nervous than you are. And I was like, that's such good advice because that's kind of what I needed. Cause I remember when I was having them, I was so nervous with all the emotions and everything else that actually you need somebody to just be really confident in that moment for you. Anyway, so going to a house, did it for her. She gets the needle

out. It's massive. It's absolutely huge. I was like, Oh my God. And you know, your stomach sinks a little bit. Like I don't like looking at needles, but anyway, did it for her. And she was so appreciative. And she texted me this morning actually again saying like, thank you so much. And it was just really nice thing to do. I felt like buzzing afterwards. And I just thought, I love doing a little good deed. Yeah, it's good. Big or small, it's a nice thing to do, isn't it?

Yeah, definitely. And also like, it's like a bit of a full circle moment, being able to help someone on their journey that you was on. So it's just very nice. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. It was full circle. So that was nice. But yeah, not

really good up to much else. Oh, I'm on a fitness health kick. How are you? Bonanza. Like I am going for it, Jess. So we have ordered our meal prep. So I've never done this before to this extent, but we get it. We basically have our meals delivered me and Andy for lunch and dinner five days a week. So we don't have to think about food in that sense. So we get it delivered. I'm tracking my calories. I've got my calories on my fitness pal.

I'm making sure I'm doing my steps every day. I'm trying to get other exercise in as much as I can, but I'm also not stressing with that because my life is quite busy. Like it's hard to then get an extra workout on top of the 10,000 steps and everything else I have to do in a day. But if I can, I can, so that's great.

Obviously trying to drink all the water and just cutting back on things basically. I've noticed a massive change already. Like I've already lost two kg in a week. Well done girl. Yeah, so I think a lot of it was probably just water to be honest, but not two kg actually, one and a half. What's kilos and pounds?

Like two pounds in a kilo? I don't know, I'm not good with stuff like that. I only know kg now. I used to always be pounds, but now I'm kg. But yeah, so happy doing that. Slow down. Basically one of the main goals that Andy and I both had for this year

was to look after ourselves because obviously the year before that was majorly looking after the girls and everything was on them and we kind of neglected ourselves. So we said that we really wanna focus on ourselves. So it's really nice kind of doing it and doing it together. Yeah, that is nice.

And yeah, just enjoy doing more exercise. I am getting my teeth straightened slightly. So yeah, I'm gonna get like a liners just on the bottom because you probably can't really see it, but my bottom teeth are just a little bit crooked. Yeah, I don't know why I'm even talking about this on here. Cause you know, when it's like something that you're a bit self-conscious about,

it's weird talking about it. But anyway, I'm gonna do that, get them straightened out cause that'll just make me feel a little bit better as well. So yeah, fuck it, why not? I'm just in that self care era. Absa bloody lootly, love it, well done. That all sounds very inspiring, very nice. Well, yeah, hopefully.

The thing is you can always look after yourself even if it's in a small way. Even if you're so drained and you're so tired and you've got a newborn or something like that, it could just be taking five minutes to listen to positive affirmations or something that just makes you feel better. Self care is really, really important.

And it's something that I definitely neglected last year. Interrupted you here. Am I saying we've started doing our little book club between me and you, what is it? Super Attractor, is that what it's called? Super Attractor by Gabrielle Bernstein. So I've actually read this book before, but I decided to download it on Audible.

Cause I think sometimes it's good to listen to a book as well, I don't know, I think like I can listen to it in the car, I can, you know, on the go. And I'm really enjoying it. How far in are you? I'm like only two chapters in, but I'm really enjoying it. Okay, I'm on the third. I thought you were gonna be further along than me.

No, so I'm actually like, I've got, I'm on a rotation of that and a subliminal that I'm listening to. Okay, fair. Which I'm getting quite a lot from because the subliminals bring up loads of stuff for me. If people don't know what it is, I didn't know what these are.

It's like someone does like affirmations, intentions. The one I'm listening to, she's like a healer and sends all this healing and then you have music over it. I'm gonna build these. I've actually got one for the psychic circle in May for energy protection that I make him. And this one's just, this was the one that was free. So I just took it as wealth and like your money mindset.

And obviously what it does is it goes into your subconscious to unlock things about money. And the reason I've done this one is she's a psychic, a cashew record reader and how much like we have conditioning that like when you're spiritual, like you shouldn't have money or you shouldn't have lots of care about money or want for money. Yeah. So it's like, it really resonated with me and I thought we'll give it a go, but I've been sleeping with it, but I've actually woken up a few times in my sleep with like anxiety, like coming out of my body. It feels like that real random. Sorry, say that bit again. It caught.

Anxiety coming out of my body. Oh wow. Yeah. Like really like, cause I have a lot I know Gabby Bernstein past me, old me had money mindset things knew me is embracing money and wealth and abundance. Absolutely. Sam's like really nodding. But it's like all this different stuff. But what this woman was basically saying is that in your past lives, like if you've been on this spiritual path a lot, like you've really struggled with feeling worthy, which is something that like I have

been working through and I'm growing through right now on my journey. Gabby Bernstein came in at the right time, Sam suggested it and I was like, fuck it, that's talking to me. Let's give it a go. So I'm actually halfway through chapter four. Bloody nail cement. I know. Catch up. I'm flying. I I, so yeah, so I read that book, sorry, before I even opened the salon.

And that was something that felt really prominent for me at that time in my life. It really helped me then feel aligned to doing what I was doing. And I think it happens to anybody where things happen, right? So for me, I opened the salon, I got married at the same time

and then went through fertility treatment. I then I did so much, right? In such a short space of time that I forgot about me. I forgot about my like mental practices and things like that. And by reading this book again, it brings it all back. And like you said about the subliminals, I have listened to subliminals for years.

Years, I will listen to them while I, so I actually had a fertility one that I used to listen to while I was doing acupuncture. Nice. So I used to listen to that then. Then I had wealth ones, success ones, and there is absolutely, no matter what job you're in, whether you're male, female, what age you are,

it doesn't matter. There is nothing wrong with wanting more in life. Like, no matter what it is that you want more of, it doesn't matter. I don't think that's a negative thing. I really don't see how that could be seen as negative to like want more money. It doesn't mean that you don't appreciate what you've got.

And it doesn't mean that you don't see that you're already way more affluent than maybe some other people are. So I feel like I forgot what I've achieved. Yeah. And I feel like this subliminal has like given me, so a couple of things that have come up is, like I forgot to be grateful, forgot some gratitude, sorry spirit. I actually lost hope about a week ago, Reese that was listening, well no, because I had a bit of a tearful moment with her, and I felt like I just lost a bit of hope with the universe,

which was interesting, and obviously you all know I fully trust the universe, This was for about an hour, but still that's a lot for me. With wine. With wine. Not while I was drinking wine. It was like the day after drinking the wine. So it's like the anxiety kicked in.

Oh, okay, fair. And I don't know. I just felt a little bit like spirit hasn't got my back and I felt a bit lonely. And I was just sort of, all this stuff was coming up for me. And I was like, God, you're ungrateful bitch. I felt like, come on, like, what are you playing at?

And then I just sort of had to have a moment for myself. And I was like, you're living a life that like many would dream of. You're living a life that like many would dream of, you're living a life that younger you would dream of. You have freedom, like there was just so many things. So I had to give myself a little bit of a smack around the face, energetically, not physically. But I think you need that sometimes. And I think it's good to be real with this stuff in a sense of like, when we're listening to the Gabby

Bernstein, she's really honest. She's like, she's really like owns the fact that she's not always perfect and she struggled with addiction for years and she took three years to get pregnant because of the mindset that she was in, et cetera, different, you know, obviously different reasons, but it is, it it is, it's a really good book. I would really recommend it, especially if you're obviously into spirituality or in general, just wanting to attract more into your life, wanting to feel better, raise your vibration,

whatever it is. But yeah, there's so much to be grateful for. Like I literally, every night before I go to bed, I think about what I'm grateful for. Every morning when I wake up, I will be in the car, I think about what I'm grateful for. Every morning when I wake up, I will be in the car and I think about it like I'm, that for me is always on that button.

So I would say it normally is always on for me, but maybe I just got a bit complacent and maybe this life that feels extraordinary has become ordinary for me, which is like. Yeah, it happens though, doesn't it? And I think it really does happen. And you need that check in. And like actually since I've been in Puket,

I've got a little apartment and like, what's quite nice is my bedroom is separate to the living space and I've hardly left, like not in a weird way. I've just been getting really spiritual. So I feel like I've actually just like being really dedicated myself to my cards, to my rituals, listening to the subliminals. And I think sometimes it's good to have a bit of regression. Like I feel like for me, when I go backwards, it's

a good thing. And I guess this is to show people that just because I'm psychic doesn't mean that I'm perfect. I'm actually probably the opposite. And these things tend to be quite good for me. And then Sam recommended this book and I feel like it's in the first chapter. She's like, you know that feeling when you just like lose hope with spirit. I was like, yeah, that was me for like a few hours.

And then she was sort of just, I felt like it was just a reminder for me of all the basics that I'd forgotten about in that moment. So yeah, it's good. I'm really glad. I'm glad that you're reading it. I'm glad that we're reading it together. Me too.

But yeah, love that. And I also finished the Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins as well. That was really good. I think I will read that at some point. Yeah, that was a good one. So should we, so we're gonna do something a bit different today, aren't we Samantha?

Yes we are indeed. Oh yeah, do you want me to read the questions or shall I save them? No, I think we'll do them in another episode. Okay, we'll save them. Okay. I feel like this is flowing quite nicely. I'm quite enjoying it. Yeah, all good. And do you know what, I feel like I haven't got to think, which is quite, I think quite good for me today. Basically, we are end of April and anyone that's on the psychic circle knows that I've been teeing us up for the end of April, May

when things are gonna get a bit better. Cause I kept saying that the year hasn't started, the energy is quite intense and we're about to move into like a bit more of a flow in May. So I thought it was quite a good time to reflect. So what's been going on? I'm not going to delve into all the astrology stuff, but just to summarize. So if your zodiac sign has had this, you may have felt it a bit more. Mars has been retrograde in cancer basically for the whole year so far and Mars is the planet of action and fire and for it to be retrograde means there's resistance there and it's

not living its best life in cancer okay so that's one energy Venus went retrograde in Aries so love passion in the fiery sign of Aries it then moved into Pisces which is the watery spiritual sign. So you would have found possibly with relationships and love and things like that, Venus could have brought some stuff up. And then Mercury did the same. So communication, we all know what Mercury retrograde is like. There was other things happening, but I just thought I'd summarize. But basically, how would would I summarize it's a shit show of energy nothing was on our side however a lot of us have made big changes and transformation over these four months

but it's probably felt quite exhausting and so I just want to let you all know it's gonna be okay and things are gonna get better and what me and Sam are gonna do is we're gonna actually ask ourselves some questions. We're going to actually pull a tarot card with it to help prompt us of just a bit of reflection. So my takeaway to you listening is to ask yourself these questions. There's only three, okay?

And we'll have them in the description so you can refer to it. But please ask yourself, maybe journal, maybe talk to your friend about it, or like if you're going for a coffee with a friend who's into self-development, do what me and Sam are doing now because it's really helpful and the energy's being-

You get a lot from it. Yeah, so let's do this. So I'm gonna ask you first, Sam, is that all right? Put you on the spot? Okay, yeah, yeah,'s do this. So I'm gonna watch you first, Sam. Is that all right? Put you on spot. Yeah, yeah, go for it. I'm gonna pull a card to help. Now this is what's quite nice if you learn Tarot.

If you've got Tarot cards, so there's a couple of people actually in the academy that I'm visualizing meeting, take your cards for this conversation. If you've got Oracle cards, use them. It's just a prompt to like see what comes from it, okay? So Sam, my question to you for first of all of all this stuff, over the past four months,

what do you think this energy has taught you? Oh, are we waiting until you do the card or? So the card that I've got is one, two, three, four, five, six. So it's the 10 of swords. So it's so for the vision of everyone, it's the man with 10 swords in his back. All right. And it's sort of Sam's just been pretty stabbed in the back by lots of people. But it's a card of coming to an end of hardship basically in some way. So what do you think this could represent for you in the past four months?

Yeah, that's actually how it feels to be honest. I would say that for me, the last four months has kind of, because I felt like a bit of, I'll be completely transparent and honest on here. There was a time maybe between January and February, I don't know exactly when it was, when I was like, I don't know why I did this, why I opened up Nextdoor, I don't know why I did it

because it's so much more work. And I just felt like I was constantly like treading through like wet sand. Do you know what I mean? Like when you just feel like you're not getting any further, that was kind of how it felt for me for a bit. Like it felt like it was just issue after issue after issue. And I didn't really see any of like the good stuff

for a little while. And I did feel quite resistant with a lot of my work. And yeah, everything just felt quite hard. I think even with the girls, it was hard., everything just felt quite hard. I think even with the girls, it was hard. Everything just felt quite hard, but I'll be honest, in just the last couple of weeks even, I have felt like I've seen that light at the end of the tunnel.

Yeah, and that makes sense with this card because it is coming to the end of that, that end of that burden that you've probably felt. So what do you think has taught you that hardship? I think it's taught me that it's okay to feel like that and that it is gonna keep feeling like that at times and that's okay as well. And it's just reminded me that just because, you know,

the salon's been open for three years, it doesn't mean you're not gonna have a hard month. But it means that when you are having that hard month, take a step back, reflect, and don't see it as hard as what it is. You know what I mean? Before I was probably looking at it like, oh my God, this is so hard, da, da, da, da.

And then I would speak to you, for example, and you'd be like, yeah, but it's done really, really well. It's still profitable. It's still all these things. And then you're like, oh yeah, I suppose it is actually doing well, or, you know. And I think, and also, sorry, I remember you'd also said to me like, it's still really new.

And I forgot that having opened up a whole separate space is effectively opening up a new business. And I hadn't given it the time and grace that it deserved at the beginning. And I think that what it's taught me is that being a slower burner is okay. And just take your time and go, and again, go back to those things that make you feel good,

whether it's reading the right book, whether it's doing the gym class or whatever, do the things that make you feel good and fully aligned to your vision. And then you're gonna feel better along the process. I love that. Love that. And you've kind of answered the second question a bit,

but that's good. No, so then we can add to it. So let's pull a card on this. But basically the second question is like, what do you think like the hidden lessons from spirit were with this? Now you said about sort of slowing things down, you know, but let's see what card we've got.

We've got the free of cups here, which is also about collaboration. It's about women coming together. So this is like the image is the free cups and the women are sort of celebrating in a way. So what do you think that could mean with your hidden lesson? Yeah, I think that it's probably made me realize

that I have a lot to give and that I can help a lot of others. And for example, if I refer this to like my mentor inside of work, I'd kind of put that all on the back burner because I was focusing on this, but actually that's what I'm really, really good at and I love. And as soon as I kind of opened myself up to that,

even energetically, I attracted two clients so quickly. You did. So easily. It was so weird, wasn't it? Yeah. Then voice note and then within that day or the next day had paid for their first sessions and it was like done.

And I've been working with them since and it's been incredible and I love it. And I think it's reminded me to focus on that as well because, you know what sometimes happens and you'll probably find this, I mean you definitely will find this, when you're really good at something, right, people don't understand that you don't wanna do it anymore.

So I'm really good at doing hair, I know I am, I'm really good at doing hair, I've mastered my craft with it, I'm brilliant at doing hair, but I don't want at doing hair. I know I am. I'm really good at doing hair. I've mastered my craft with it. I'm brilliant at doing hair, but I don't want to do hair anymore. And that surprises people every single day. I come into the salon and I get a, oh, do you not miss her? Or do you not wanna come back and do her?

No, I actually don't. Like, and I feel weird for saying that because I loved it for so long. And it's not that I'm not passionate about hair anymore or anything like that. I'm just not passionate about being the one who's doing it anymore. And I am passionate about the community aspect.

And I feel like I've completely gone off on a tangent here and not thinking about that question. But I love like the more community aspect of everything with my team, with who I work with, everything. So yeah, I don't really know if I've answered that question or not. You've absolutely answered it. I'm gonna replay some of it back to you.

So the card is about community and celebration and coming together. So I guess the hidden lesson is that you have gone on this journey over the last four months where you've worked with people in different ways to what you knew before. You know, so your business has pushed you in ways that you didn't expect. It's grown physically, like literally, you know, that's crazy.

You've also been pushing your mentoring and realize that actually, you know, you've got another skill that you didn't know you're as good at, which is mentoring and, you know, guiding people. So, you know, there is so much that you've learned that has been amazing. And also I truly believe to guide and mentor people, your empathy, um, you know, has to be very strong. And I definitely have seen such a transition in your empathy with motherhood, with business, and you're so much more forgiving to yourself when times are hard. And I think that's what's got you to get clients with your mentoring and helping people because you're like, yeah, sometimes

it's a bit tough and other times it's really good. And you're really good at getting whatever the saying is back on the saddle, charging forward. So yeah, love it. You answered that very well, Sam. Okay. Thanks, girl. So what are you now focusing on for the future? And I guess what has gone well in the last four months? So it's kind of a joint question. What's gone well and where's your focus going for the rest of the year? Let me just see what card we get. I like this, this is nice. No, it is nice. Oh, you got the best card, Ten of Pentacles.

So this is a very good card. So the Pentacles is all about like material things, stability, and the 10 is completion. So you have got two 10s here, which is quite strong. So you've gone from the Ten of Swords, which is like burden and hardship. And what you're moving into is the 10 of pentacles, baby. Here we go.

Celebration. There's a family of four. There's two dogs on there. Maybe you'll get another dog. I know. Did I say more? Yeah, you did. You did.

I wasn't being psychic there. Sam was getting all like watching TikToks of dogs and was like, oh, just love dogs. Yeah. I mean, I'm definitely not getting another dog, but it's just like a bit of a running joke at the moment with Andy that I'm like, oh, imagine getting another dog and Ernie having a little best mate.

But I have too much on my plate. I'm not getting another dog. You don't need another dog. Don't do it babes. So 10 of Pentacles, what do you think? What's gone where and what are you focusing on for the future? So I am focusing on continuing to feel good,

continuing to just look after myself, look after those around me in my small circle and just continuing to feel good and continuing to just raise my vibration and attract more opportunities that are aligned to me and the business staff that are aligned to me in the business and just feeling good. Like there's loads of obviously like materialistic things

that I could say. But it's funny, right? So for example, I would love a bigger house. Yeah. And I know you might think I'm crazy. I, I, it's not even a year ago that I moved house, but the house I moved into, I moved into because that's what I could afford. Right.

Yeah. But, and I love my house. I absolutely love it, but I would love a bigger house with a bit more space. I won't lie. However, if somebody knocked on my door today and said, here's the money to buy this house and then you can go and get the bigger one, I don't actually think I'd take it because I'm so happy where I am. Like I feel so content and I think it's just, I just want to continue that same energy of just feeling content and happy.

That's nice. So I was laughing because I was like, right, I'll take the money. I'll buy the house. And I probably would let's, you know, probably lying. Next time we record, I'm moving house. Do you know what? We just needed more room. I've also got another dog and the other salon next door is now mine and I've got free shops.

Basically I'd watched this TikTok video of these two dogs and they were jumping in a swimming pool and honestly it just gave me so much joy and I said to Andy all I want to do is work hard and we can get a house that's got a swimming pool. I'll jump in the pool with the girls like it'd be amazing. That is lovely. I do love the thought of that. Well, I think it will happen, girl. I love that. Well, that's great. Love it. I do think content feeling is really good because you have had such a busy couple of years, like a feeling of contentment is obviously that more spiritual bliss. So

that's a lovely feeling that you've got and that you want to maintain. So well done. Thank you. All right, let's flip it. Flip it, flip it. Okay. Let me get the questions up because you did send them to me. Next time we'll have to get you to bring your tarot cards. I know, I, yeah, I got bought tarot cards when I was in Bali and I've loved them. I feel like I've really got used to them a bit more now. You're doing very well. Sam's in one of my Academy groups learning and I have to say she's doing a very good job.

I feel like. Oh, thanks girl. I'm not well done with vibes. I'm thoroughly enjoying it. It's been fun to learn what the different cards mean and stuff like that. No, I've really enjoyed it. So what have the past four months taught you?

Okay. The card I've got is the Horiphan. So the Horiphan is the spiritual teacher, the spiritual leader, like rules in spirituality and beliefs. So that's the card. So what was the last four months taught me? Well, I was on the course about dying and living.

And actually that was quite profound for me over the last four months, because it really did sort of show to me like life is for living and sort of really being present. So I definitely feel like that was quite a prominent thing for me. And what else has it taught me to take responsibility, to be more responsible for my actions. I feel as though in business I'm showing up even more. I keep pushing that boundary that's there and it's getting bigger and I'm pushing and I'm sharing and I feel like it's taught me that it's okay, it's not that bad. I've also had

a lot of fun in the last couple of months. I've laughed a lot, probably more than I've laughed in quite a long time. That's nice. Yeah, like in the Philippines, like I basically didn't work pretty much for about four weeks. I think I had a few zoom calls around that, which is quite unlike me nowadays. I feel like I was getting a little bit work obsessed and I just chilled out, which was really nice. And actually like when I think about it, it's a bit cheeky that I just sort of chilled out a bit. But I don't know. Well, actually this is something I've been working through

with the subliminals and Gabby Bernstein. And my dad's been quite good with me with this because a few times I've said, oh, I feel a bit guilty. Like that, like I'm feeling comfortable financially, but like I'm not working like slaving to readings because I basically have been reflecting on how much I gave my life to readings. And you know, they really, I know I talk about this all the time, but it really did take a lot of my energy and I just feel like my own life sacrifice so much.

And I, I'm not doing readings now. And obviously I have like academy groups, I have the psychic circle, so I have more of a passive income that's here now, which means that like I can live again and like enjoy my life and yeah, so I feel like it's taught me a lot about that and actually I feel like I've, you know, learned a lot from that. Hasn't been a hard four months for me. That's nice. I've pushed a lot though. Like I've been manifesting a lot and I have been working with energy a lot. So, you know, I've had harder times but I think all the psychics and astrologers were preparing for this. So we're a little bit

ready for this energy. A lot of spiritual development, I would say for you in the last four months. Yeah, I think so. And that's definitely the horizon a lot. And I'm actually mixing the travel up. Um, and I'm going to Mexico for the summer, because I'm drawn to learning about a new culture spiritually. So more of the shamanic healing. Now I've been really in the depths of Buddhism and tantra, and now I'm about to go and

explore Mexican history, the Mexican spirituality and rituals. So that's going to be very fun. So yeah, love it. Yeah, it's really cool. No, it's amazing. And in the grand scheme of things, like I know when, I know you haven't said this, but when sometimes you, when you were saying about you were having a bit of a period, you were feeling a bit like, oh, I don't feel looked after.

Cause I know that at some point you would love to meet somebody and do all those things. You probably wouldn't be doing the things that you're doing now. Yeah. If that were the case, if that were your situation. So I just think the fact that you're able to live your life the way you are is so incredible.

Yeah, no it is. And I think that's it sometimes. Like I think I've led probably a path that's been quite solo because of my spirituality. And only recently have I felt a bit more, I feel a lot more ready to welcome someone in. But I also feel like when you're single, you can really put your life on hold waiting for a man.

And that's just one thing that I can't do because I feel like I've done it. And I'm like, fuck that. Absolutely not, yeah. So if I wanna go and do something or experience done it and I'm like, fuck that. Absolutely not. Yeah. So if I want to go and do something or experience something, and to be honest, my heart is calling me to Mexico. And it was actually quite, I'll share the story.

So I feel like it's quite a long episode, but I'm sure you lot don't mind. No, I don't mind. Yeah. And so I basically was when I was having my little meltdown with my friend, Risa, we was actually just pulling some cards and I had sort of pulled a card and I was thinking like, I'm really ready to like, Central America, like I just feel a bit

drawn there. And then she was like, have you thought about Mexico? And I was like, so weird, I literally was just thinking it. And then I went to bed that night, basically, and I was psychic that lives in Mexico. She's from Essex, like literally down the road from me. So I just messaged her and she's in Tulum and I was just like, Oh, hey, like, how'd you find it? Like I'm thinking I might come out for the summer. Like I know it's not the best season, like weather wise, but, and she was like, I'm actually

going back to England for two months in the summer. Do you want my apartment? And I was just like, okay, spirits are aligning and this is what they do. And I was like, yeah, fuck it. Why not? So yeah, off I go after my Dubai trip. I think it's incredible. And I think, you know, we'll all be here along the journey listening to how it's going on. But yeah, I think that going back to those questions, like the last four months have taught you that you can do things like that.

Yeah, I think so. There's a lot more freedom. And I think the art of dying helped me with that because I was just like, you have just got to like live and do things and the Philippines, like, you know I didn't even plan to go to the Philippines but all just happened, which was nice. Love.

So what was difficult and why were the hidden lessons? Okay. So I've got the king of cups. So what was difficult? So I think what were the hidden lessons? Oh, what was difficult? I feel like I've been very on my own this first start of the year. I really thought I was going to make more friends. I know that sounds like a bit sad but I've actually been moving quite quickly so I haven't really had time to. But I think I thought maybe trying to force things, trying to find like a place and just stay there and like I guess I had a plan and I didn't follow it really. Like I thought I was going to have a bit more of a base and I haven't. So I feel like there's an element of that feeling difficult, but I think it's just control on my side. Like

I do feel like I maybe was like trying to control something there. So I think the hidden lessons I've been getting talk from spirit, even more so is surrender, surrendering to life, surrendering to the fact that, you know, these little moments can lead you to something and not controlling things. I also feel like I had like quite a lot of things to release emotionally. And this is the

king of cups that we've pulled. So the king of cups is like the very like masculine, emotional, secure energy. And I do feel like I am becoming a bit more mature in my emotions. Now what I mean by that is I think I'm seeing things clearer. There's less sort of maybe the Piusian wishy washy. There's a little bit more realism to the way that I'm looking at life and my emotions. So yeah, I think that could be it. That makes sense. Because when you say about surrender, it's really interesting because that's kind of

what you say all the time. Yeah. So like me or to other people. So it is really interesting that sometimes we do have to look at the mirror and take our own advice as well. Definitely. And there's also a spectrum when it comes to surrender because like I have surrendered,

like what I find sometimes is like they stretch me. So like, I'm like, oh my God, I've surrendered so much. I've still got to surrender more. Like I think when you're on this spiritual path You kind of think well, I've manifested this or I've surrendered to that Everything's gonna work now and it's not it's like now you constantly surrender you constantly work with energy So yes, I've had a lot of spiritual lessons. It's been good Yeah, absolutely. And I do think, like you say, I think the work doesn't stop.

No, it doesn't. Like in that sense, like when I said before about like I still every day I'm saying what I'm grateful for like it doesn't stop. Yeah, no you don't. You don't want it to either, but it is a constant. So what actually went well and where are you focusing your energy as we move ahead?

So, yeah, the business has gone very well. I've got the two of swords. So where am I going? What direction am I doing? So, you know, I came back to Dubai for a couple of weeks at the beginning of the year and I had no coaching clients because they'd all just finished. So I only liked to work with someone really for three months. I find after that, like it's not as good. The three months is the sweet spot. So everyone that came to the end of their contract,

was coming to Dubai and I had some great coffees with a few people that were like, what about coaching, bringing those people together. And from those conversations, it led me to start in the Psychic Academy. And I've now got just under 20 women and men in that academy. Sorry I always say women, but there are some men. And I absolutely love teaching. I love it. I love teaching Tarot. I love teaching about energy. And what I love with teaching is it reminds me of everything. So like, it's

just beautiful because there's all these things that you've learned and you're just able to share it. So I do feel like really proud of myself for just taking the plunge and pushing to be more of a teacher. And that also has meant that then I've stepped away from readings when I'm, you know, filling my week out with that. And I'm able to then spend more time building content. So if you ever look at my Instagram at the moment, I'm putting out a lot of videos on spirit guides, what it is for me to see spirit, what it was like when I was a kid.

Like I want to give more free information. I want to teach, just want to share. So that is something that has gone well and that I'm really focusing my energy on. And my plan is for sort of when I'm in Mexico and I'm in my spiritual zone, to build out even more teachings and for people to have more access, whether it's like an academy or a course, that's the next step. And I'm really excited about that,

but I'm also slightly nervous because it's always new and it's a different way of having my business, but I'm ready for it. So yeah, it feels good. Nerves are good. Yeah. It's like excitement when you have nerves. Yeah, it feels good. Nerves are good. Yeah. It's like excitement when you have nerves.

Yeah, it is. It's really good to have the nerves because it means that you're changing. Yeah, I feel like I am and I keep seeing 555 and actually when I moved to Dubai, I felt like this, what I'm feeling like right now. And also just before I came sort of on the Nomad life, I felt this as well. So I do feel like there's a bit of quantum leap in happening. I do feel like I've been making space and making room and that's why I've had to be a bit more solo and independent. And I do trust them. I know that things are going to work out really well. So yes, good. Just had a little bit.

Oh, well, I've loved that. Yeah, it, good. Just had a little bit. Oh well, I love that. Yeah, that was good. Well done. Love sharing that, all that as well and doing those questions to each other. It's been good, it's been very insightful. And like Jess said, like do these questions to yourself, think about it.

And you know, if you've got some tarot cards, pull a card. If you haven't, it doesn't matter. Just have a conversation with yourself, journal, with a friend, whatever it is that you feel is right. But I think any kind of thought provoking questions are always a good thing. Even like voice noting, if you've got a friend that like you can talk about this stuff, like you just reply voice notes to this stuff, but do it. This is what it's about. Absolutely. Well, we have loved having you for this episode of Spoke to Speaking.

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