Spittin Chiclets - Spittin' Chiclets Episode 36: Featuring Torey Krug

Episode Date: June 22, 2017

On Episode 36, the guys goof on the debacle that is the NHL Awards broadcast, chat about the winners, discuss the Las Vegas Golden Knights expansion draft bounty, talk about the exuberance surrounding... the NHL christening Las Vegas as a pro sports city, and yap about a bunch of other stuff. Boston Bruins defenseman Torey Krug joins the show to talk about his road to the NHL and how it almost didn't happen, playing with Zdeno Chara, why he chose Boston over 29 other cities, what he loves about the city, the stigma about undersized players, his second place Norris Trophy vote, and much more. The show closes with #AllRightHamilton questions from listeners.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/schiclets

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Spittin' Chicklets listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello, everybody. Welcome to episode 36 of Spittin' Chicklets, brought to you by Barstool Sports. What up? What up? I love it. Ryan Whitney, co-host. Hello, gentlemen. Producer to episode 36 of Spittin' Chicklets, brought to you by Barstool Sports. What up? What up? I love it. Ryan Whitney, co-host. Hello, gentlemen. Producer Mikey Grinelli. We've got a very special guest coming in studio, slash my living room, in studio today.
Starting point is 00:00:55 As a fan of the Boston Bruins my whole life, it's pretty exciting to have an actual Bruin in my house. We have Torrey Krug, Bruin's defenseman, coming in. Are you going to have him sign the wall? Yeah, maybe that's a tradition We should start It's not a bad thing Yeah I don't think My wife would mind at all
Starting point is 00:01:07 If we just inked up She's like as long as It's a Bruin Yeah As long as it's a nice Topay color I like the fact That we should let everyone know
Starting point is 00:01:14 Today's the first time We're actively drinking During the podcast Yes I don't know what Really took us so long I think it's the summer Being here
Starting point is 00:01:19 We are officially Gas and beers If fucking Wits Doesn't knock it off We could be Chuck and Nux In a little bit Having actually Sierra Nevadaierra nevada shout out to uh buddy bernardo out in california these were a gift from him during the patriot season last year ipas good stuff so great radio so anyways last night big big night uh awful tv per usual the nhl awards just god damn what a
Starting point is 00:01:41 joke it's almost like it's almost like they know they're in on the joke and they try to just go out and kind of thought that it's almost like they know they're in on the joke and they try to just go out and get it. I kind of thought that. It's almost like they're being ironic in a way. Of course, we doubt they are, but it's just bad TV. It's definitely the ultimate Twitter show. You just follow along on Twitter. But last night it was worth watching because the Las Vegas Golden Knights expansion draft,
Starting point is 00:01:59 which was a pretty clever way to get you to watch the awards last night. Yeah, I mean, I think that everyone was so excited to see, all right, what's this team actually going to have as a roster? And it was actually more exciting, I think, leading up, I think it was Sunday morning, the final day of the U.S. Open. Saturday or Sunday morning, they were supposed to release, everyone was going to release their unprotected and protected list. So that's what everyone was kind of getting ready for and excited.
Starting point is 00:02:23 And all of a sudden, of course, only the NHL, they decided at this day at 10 a.m. Eastern, they're going to release the protected list, and then they decided to delay it to 10.30. Apparently, teams said they were confused by the final rules. I'd love to know what actually happened for them to not be ready to go on something like that big. Honestly, just as a writer, blogger, whatever,
Starting point is 00:02:45 sort of covers the Bruins and the NHL, man, it really is convoluted following this shit. And hats off to George McPhee for not only learning the rules on the fly. I mean, basically, this was different than other expansion drafts. I know we haven't handled it for a while. They basically, I wouldn't say rigged it, but they set it up for the team to be much more competitive than expansion teams in the past.
Starting point is 00:03:05 But McPhee was in a position where he basically could kind of hold hostage other teams and say, I like this guy, and if you don't give me something, we're going to draft him. I know, and he was smart enough to like – I feel like every article I've read out there is that every other GM was so frustrated and annoyed but also respected the shit out of it because it's a guy that's doing exactly what he's got to do to try to get this team good. And now you look at their draft picks. It's like two first, I think three first rounders this year,
Starting point is 00:03:32 next year, two. Just stockpiling picks that they're almost saying, well, to guarantee we're not going to be good for two, three years, at least the first year. I mean, they're going to stink. But in any way, shape, or form, they're setting themselves up for five or six years from now. So I think that it's going to be a team that struggles but has somehow set up a way to get to that next level
Starting point is 00:03:55 way sooner than, like, you've seen Columbus or Minnesota get there. I mean, even going way, way back. What year was that? That was, I want to say, late 90s. It might have been Columbus. It might have been, like, 2001, way back. What year was that? That was, I want to say late 90s. It might have been Columbus. It might have been like 2001, 2002 Columbus. Yeah, because the Predators were like 98, 99. And then, yeah, there were like three teams in a few years.
Starting point is 00:04:13 But you just have to be good from the draft now. And that's been their whole goal, to get picks. I think they have 11 first round and second round picks in the next two years. 11? 11 first and second rounders in the next two years 11 11 first and second rounders in the next i mean you can't you you hit on you want to say fuck you got to hit on at least like three or four of them but what if all of a sudden they go out and you've seen how good the drafts been lately and they get a bunch of like stud players i don't think this year they'll be able to do that this year's drafts week but next year's looks great and you get guys that well, basically it comes down to this. So these teams used to be struggling so often at the beginning
Starting point is 00:04:49 and still up to 10 years in. Columbus, and you look how bad they were for so long. But that was before 18-year-olds would get drafted and be really good the next year. This wasn't normal. Everyone goes back to Joe Thornton. He had six points his rookie year. This whole being drafted in the first round 18
Starting point is 00:05:05 and then playing in the NHL the next year and being really good wasn't around for these other expansion teams. So that's why if they can hit on some of those, you'll actually look to see them being really good sooner than I think everyone expects. I think for sure they're going to be competitive. I don't know, really. This year? Well, I'm not saying they're going to go to a playoff. I just mean competitive in that they're going to be tough. And I think that's... I don't know, really. This year? Well, I'm not saying they're going to go to a playoff.
Starting point is 00:05:25 I just mean competitive in that they're going to be tough to play against every night. I think you've got a coach like Gallant whose players love him. Guys will love him. I think this year he'll be like, hey, fuck everyone else. No one's expecting anything out of us. And just guys will love it. And they've got a bonafide number one in Fleury. I know offensively that probably leaves a little something to be desired.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Of course, they do get the draft coming up There's still months before they even play a game George McPhee can still do a lot of trading A lot of tinkering I'm not saying they're going to get in the playoffs or anything But I think you'll see a competitive squad there With the coach, with the number one And also too
Starting point is 00:05:58 It's like the Major League effect The movie Major League, please tell me you know that one Dude, one of my favorites I fucking love Major League. Too high. All these guys who weren't wanted by other teams, they think they're going to have that chip on their shoulder, too, that they're going to buy in.
Starting point is 00:06:12 It wouldn't shock me if they competed for a playoff spot at all in their first year or so. Am I expecting it? I don't know. I don't think they'll compete for a spot, and I'll tell you why. Quickly, they could really be like Major League where instead of stripping off the pictures to get to the owner that bitch
Starting point is 00:06:27 owners like tight little bottom you know vaginal area. Yeah. They can just get like an unreal stripper from Vegas that they all know and maybe just do it and
Starting point is 00:06:35 she won't even have to have under the strip is in Vegas. What are you talking about. Just so I have heard also to talk about Vegas I wrote in my
Starting point is 00:06:42 blog today that like the enthusiasm for this team. It was unreal last night. It's like, even last night, just the whole buildup. Like, you know, the media seems to be on board, which is kind of rare. Fans, you know, I think the way the expansion draft is set up in the last, what, 15 years since we've had an expansion draft, fantasy football, fantasy sports have exploded. Obviously, they were around before then. So everyone kind of in the last, you know, 15, 20 years thinks they're a GM anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:08 So everybody got to play along. You know, the media got to write columns about it. The fans got to, you know, play along with it. And, you know, George McPhee had to do it for real. So I think there was almost like a participation level there that, you know, people hadn't really seen to that extent before. But just like I said, the whole excitement about the team, everything around it has been fun, man. It just feels like a really good vibe.
Starting point is 00:07:33 And I look to, like, I was really happy for Fleury because I think it was probably hard. Not probably. It was definitely hard what he's gone through. He's won the Stanley Cup the last two years, but he wasn't the guy that won the final game for him. And so I was really happy for him to be the center of attention. He was like, they brought out Derek Englund, who lives in Vegas. It's pretty cool for Derek Englund, a guy who came up in Pittsburgh's minor league.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And a lot of guys I know, I never got the chance to play with him, but just a team guy, tough as shit. And he started, I mean, to get from the East Coast League where he was in Las Vegas playing for the Vegas Wranglers. I think he met his wife there. Now he's back living there and playing there. He never stopped living there, but he now plays in the NHL there. It's good for a guy like him. But like Fleury was just, you could tell like everyone's so fired up. He's by
Starting point is 00:08:18 far and away the biggest name they have. And for a team that's going to really struggle to score goals, thank God that their goalie is their number one guy, the guy that they can really lean on. Vegas got lucky in the fact that Matt Murray came along and was able to kind of push Fleury out the door. Did you guys see the picture Malkin put up?
Starting point is 00:08:36 Yeah, with my MVP with the backwards 29 jersey on. So he's a real locker room guy, huh? Yeah. I always tell people he didn't speak English when I played with him. Fleury or Malkin? No. Yeah. Good question.
Starting point is 00:08:50 No, Malkin. Malkin. Fleury is always. Fleury's basically had the same English since I think that he's, like, 19. It's just a hilarious French accent. He's like the French guy in, you know, from Ricky. What's the movie with Ricky Bobby? Oh, Talladega Nights. He's like that french guy that races against him yeah yeah not but i i think that you know flurry flurry's just
Starting point is 00:09:14 such a such a good guy to be around that he'll help that team so much but when i say they struggle to score goals you notice that they got some pretty good defense man macho soul there the kid on florida 30 goals last year. Yeah, I know. But I look at Vegas' team, I'm saying, and they have no – you notice teams are – you realize you have to have good centers. Yeah. And there's no centers out there.
Starting point is 00:09:34 That's the one thing the team's like, we cannot lose any of our top centers. So that's where Vegas really struggle, like possessing the puck and being offensive with a guy who can at least set guys up. But I don't know. I'm interested to see how the year goes in terms of, like, fans. Like, at the beginning, it's going to be nuts. It's going to be rocking there. And I think that technically they've sold out every game.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I mean, can you think of a better place if you pick out a couple Boston guys or, you know, some dudes from Toronto? Let's go watch our team play in Vegas. That's going to be for every road game, I would assume. And that's also, too, the location's great. Let's go watch our team play in Vegas. That's going to be for every road game, I would assume. Also, too, the location's great. I mean, obviously, we raved about Nashville's location. You come out, and every part of Nashville is outside the front door of Bridgestone, it feels like.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Here in Vegas, I mean, the arena's right behind New York, New York. So when you leave the game, the Vegas trip is right there. It's definitely a road trip. I'm going to be taking it. I'm not sure if I'm going to make it this season or not. But, I mean, you're going to Vegas, Bruins in town. Why wouldn't you? And it just starts your night, dude. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Absolutely, yeah. Game 7 to 930. You're not even out of bed before 930 if you're there anyway. Exactly, yeah. That's the nap after the pool party. God damn it, I got married. I wasn't, well, whatever leaked images or logos we saw. I wasn't crazy about What we saw
Starting point is 00:10:45 The Golden Knights logo first But I'll tell you I thought the jersey Looked pretty good Once you see it on it Dude I hated it I love them It's fucking team Germany
Starting point is 00:10:52 With white gloves Oh I was gonna tell you guys You like that? I just No what I'm saying I didn't like it at all At first But when I saw it
Starting point is 00:10:59 You know With the completed product On a player I thought it was an improvement Once I saw it On a guy I love it You two improvement once I saw it on a guy. I love it. You two fucking guys like it.
Starting point is 00:11:07 It's one too many color. It's one too many color for me. I thought it reminded me so much of Team Germany. Somebody actually tweeted that. I was laughing. Drop the red. It reminded me of a coral snake. What were they going to do, though?
Starting point is 00:11:18 It's Vegas. They had to do something. It couldn't be plain. See, I think, again, we've talked about it before. I thought they should have had a better name, a different name. Obviously, the owner, well-documented, he's a big West Point guy, big Army guy, and he wanted to work nights into the name somehow. It was basically, come hell or high water, he was going to do it.
Starting point is 00:11:38 So I think they limited themselves in getting a really cool nickname. But having said that, you look at it, it's a knight with the shield face and the V there. It's not bad. I'll tell you, it's better than fucking that godforsaken Ducks shirt. I know the Ducks, man, they got a fucking – That logo stinks. And then you know who else is like sucks too? And, like, is that Vancouver, the Orca Sea Atrocity, I call it.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yeah, and the color. Vancouver should go back to those Vs they had. Actually, they have the colors the same as Vegas pretty much. I'm sick of Vancouver's green and blue. That's terrible. The Ducks is awful. The Ducks colors and the logo. A Duck is probably the biggest pussy bird out there.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I thought they were like savages. Somebody told me once they end up being savages when challenged. Those are pelicans. Pelicans. Oh, fucking. Pelicans. Pelicans. Pelicans.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Pelicans. Pelicans. All right. So I thought I thought it was ducks. I'm just wondering like I want to ask Krug.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Remind me because I'll forget. OK. Yeah, I'm good at that. I want to the Grinnelli's are a reminder. I want to ask him
Starting point is 00:12:42 like if guys wanted to get selected, I'm going to guess that everyone was like please please don't first of all please don't like unprotect me like give me a give them a chance to draft me but you knew going in who your guys are gonna be for every team right it was pretty laid out the nine guys or whatever the number was but in terms of like being a guy like i don't know do you want are guys happy last night you got to think that guys who are married's wives are like, are you shitting me?
Starting point is 00:13:07 We're moving to Vegas. But it's actually nice, too. Yeah, I mean, there's plenty of great neighborhoods to live out there. I mean, I don't think it's much different from any other city. It's got its good parts and it's got its shady parts. But, I mean, I'm sure guys who, like I was saying before we started, they're probably a little bit pissed off that this, oh, okay, the team didn't want to protect me,
Starting point is 00:13:26 and they're going to have a little bit of a chip on their shoulder. Of course, they could only protect three defensemen if they opted for that particular layout. You can only protect three defensemen. I guess you could either pick to, what was it, like so many forwards and three defensemen in one goal? No, you could pick, I think. You could pick how many you protected
Starting point is 00:13:42 for each, right? So, you know, I mean, basically there are going to be quality guys that teams can't't protect as far as the Bruins like Bruins Twitter was like all all up in arms that they lost Colin Miller for nothing and it's like dude that's how expansion drafts work your owner gets a shitload of money and you lose a player of your roster like they they didn't let him go for nothing I mean it's funny like literally nobody said trade Colin Miller three months ago but Bruins fans were like they didn't get I mean, it's funny. Literally, nobody said trade Colin Miller three months ago, but Bruins fans were like, they didn't get nothing from him. It's like, but you couldn't trade him a few months ago. You needed him,
Starting point is 00:14:09 and then, you know, what are they going to wait until after? It's like, you can't fucking satisfy them, man, you know? Do you think any players are happy to go in the sense if they're in a tough situation where they are, you know, they're not playing third, fourth line, maybe getting healthy scratched every few games? I think we said that one episode that he, there's definitely guys who are like,
Starting point is 00:14:27 all right, I'm going to get a chance now to play. But like looking through the roster, you think of a guy, you know, like they got Gorbovsky. He can score. I mean, from the Islanders, he can play. And they got David Perron and he can score. So guys like that might, who are that who kind of played wherever they were before might be like, oh, I got nobody to get me the puck, blah, blah, blah. But then you look at a guy like the kid Brickley.
Starting point is 00:14:50 We talked about Connor Brickley. I've played with him in the minors. He got a little bit of a shot in Florida, but he gets picked. He was with Carolina. All of a sudden, he's going to get a shot to play in the NHL. So guys like that, I think you're definitely right. But I wonder, too, by the time people are listening to this over the next two days, it's Thursday right now, we could end up having some of these guys dealt for more draft picks.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I don't think they're done by any means. You hear rumors. And when Bob McKenzie starts tweeting about this, you're like, okay, well, that means it's going to happen, which is what a legend Bobby Mack is. Whatever he says is pretty much he's just telling you what's going to happen in a sense. But he's mentioned that Mathot may be out of there, which is what a legend Bobby Mack is. Whatever he says is pretty much, he's just telling you what's going to happen in a sense. But he's mentioned that Mathot may be out of there, which is weird because he's like their number one. He thought he'd stay in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Not too bad. Not too bad. Kruger liked that one. Oh, waka waka. But I think that, you know, if anything, you're going to see some guys move, but they're still going to make sure that they have a amount of, Trevor VanVleet has already been traded to Carolina, so that's one guy. You just see little things like that. But they still have to keep enough guys
Starting point is 00:15:50 to fill the team, and that's why a guy like Mathot or Perron, who might think they're going to get traded now, they might want it. They might be thinking, all right, well, I'm not going to be there that long, and I don't really think that they're going to keep me there. And then all of a sudden, they keep you, and you're like, all right, well, now I've got to play there. We're going to keep me there and then all of a sudden they keep you and you're like alright well now I got to play there
Starting point is 00:16:05 we're going to suck and that can be shitty for him but that's just more up to a guy how he's going to decide to go about it. Yeah I mean I think you know going forward Vegas they have a good framework in place they got a you know George McPhee's been a GM for a long time Gallant obviously a coach well liked by his team
Starting point is 00:16:22 well not so much by his management last year in Florida but I think they got a lot of good pieces in place, so like I said, to at least ice a competitive squad early. Going back to the awards. Oh, I was going to say something about the awards. Any real surprise in the awards themselves last night? I'd say no. I mean, maybe, I can't really say it's a surprise,
Starting point is 00:16:40 Connor McDavid winning the awards. Basically, Crosby didn't look too happy he lost the Lester Pearson award, did he? He didn't get the MVP? The heart? Not the heart. The one Lester Pearson voted on by players, right? Oh, is that Ted Lindsey? What's a Ted Lindsey award?
Starting point is 00:16:56 Oh, wait. I'm getting confused. Wait. I don't know. We have to have Grinnell look it up. Yeah, the Lindsey award. You're right. That's the one that's voted on by your peers.
Starting point is 00:17:05 No, I think you might. I don't know. Either way, I thought Crosby, he gave him a nice little nod, but I did think that Marcel Dion, did you see the comment he made about Ali Raisman's legs? I was like, Jesus Christ, Marcel. He's like, legs on this young girl. He's probably loaded.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Well, I saw that, and it caused a little ripple effect in 2017. Oh, people were complaining about what he said? The AP had a headline that said, Marcel Dion compliments Ali Raisman on her legs. Go ahead. Ted Lindsey, best player as voted by the NHLPA. Okay. So, yeah, he won the Lindsey and the Hart.
Starting point is 00:17:37 So what's the Lester Pearson? Check that one out, Grinnelly. So, yeah, Marcel Dion said that. Yeah, look at the legs on him. Now, of course, I'm sure he's getting dragged somewhere somewhere by somebody but honestly what a legend like not for nothing and I guess I'll defend him a little bit not for nothing but how many people when they look at Allie Raisman that's the first thing they say is look at because dude she's muscle bound like she's jacked and I don't think it's like in a from a dirty old man
Starting point is 00:18:03 perspective it's that she's a phenomenal athlete and you know she showed jacked, and I don't think it's like from a dirty old man perspective. It's that she's a phenomenal athlete, and, you know, she showed her whole body to the world. I mean, she was naked in ESPN, the magazine. She looked great, and he's like a dude saying, look at her legs. It was hilarious, but it was also a compliment. People get mad at that fucker. I didn't get the sense it was anything creepy. She kind of laughed it off. I mean, it's funny because she actually called out TSA for, like, you know for what she called body shaming her for not thinking she
Starting point is 00:18:25 had muscles or something along those lines. Fun fact, my dad, Ali Raisman's dad, very good friends. Oh, really? No. Pardon? Your dad and Ali Raisman's dad? Yes, are very good friends. So why don't you get in there? Insurance, man. I've tried. To be honest, my dad said she would crush me, I think is the word.
Starting point is 00:18:41 She would dummy him. Gurley's got shorts on today. His legs are skinnier than mine. That's saying something. They're bad. No, so the other one, what was I dying laughing at? Some guy tweeted me, hey, Whit, tons of Rockets at the NHL Awards tonight. Yeah, you think, dude? It's the best players in the league who have girls with them.
Starting point is 00:19:00 What do you think? They're going to be ugly? That was a smoke show fest last night. Dude, yeah. I mean, some of the players' wives are just absolute rockets. And by the way, Grinnelli just did some speed-lunking for us on the internet, and the Ted Lindsay award used to be known as the Lester Pierce.
Starting point is 00:19:13 So we're actually not wrong. Exactly. So we were both right. No shit, huh? So yeah, anyways, going back to that, if David voted the MVP by his peers, that's a little different than a bunch of hacks in the media voting for it, right? I mean, recognition from your boys, you know? Yeah, I would say.
Starting point is 00:19:29 I mean, I feel like the Hart Trophy has more pizzazz just because of the past and who's won it. But, yeah, when your own players are voting for it. I thought McDavid, Crosby missed a little time with injury. I thought McDavid was deserving in the MVP this year. Crosby won the playoff MVP. It kind of worked out good. I didn't know if it was going to be Carlson or Brent Burns. If they could have voted after the playoffs for the
Starting point is 00:19:49 Norris Trophy, obviously you're going to have Carlson winning it, but they vote, I think, the day the regular season ends. Yeah, definitely. It's only before the playoffs. In that sense, with the year Burns had, he was pretty much a lock to win that once he realized it was regular season. What else do we have? Rookie of the Year, Austin Matthews.
Starting point is 00:20:06 There's no question we would have loved to have seen Patrick Lyon if he could have stayed healthy. How that would have gone. With that fucking duster of his last night. That guy. That blonde mustache last night. That guy, he must have ripped up Vegas last night. He looked like one of those Finnish machines ready to just— He's probably there until, like, Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:20:21 He looked like he could play, like, Martin Muller if he were going to make a Mr. Mom porno or something. Like, yes, I am here with the pizza. I don't know that one. Yeah, yeah. Mr. Mom, Michael Keaton, old school. All right, so basically... That's an R.A. one right there. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:35 You ask a millennial. So, yeah, there was no major surprises. Patrice Bergeron won his fourth Selkie. Ty's Bob Ganey. It's the most ever, right? Most Selkie ever. You got to ask Krug about him. Like, what the fuck? That's unbelievable. And the year he had... At the beginning of the year, people were like, what's the most ever, right? Most Selke ever. You've got to ask Krug about him. That's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:20:46 And the year he had, at the beginning of the year, people were like, what's wrong with Bergeron? Then the second half he scored like he usually does. But just the whole year, he's obviously got the defensive hockey down. Played with his sports attorney all year, too. Yeah, so that's his fourth Selke. I wonder if Datsuk must have won three then. I think he only won two because I was reading it last night.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And currently, no other active NHL has more than one right now. Taves, excuse me, Kopitar, and Kessler all have one. Yeah, Bergeron's just a complete machine. I mean, what a career he's had. So he'll probably get a fifth one. I wouldn't be surprised. But Krug has arrived, so we're going to go to him. So we'll get that going right now.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Now we're bringing in a very special guest our first in studio in here first in studio in studio aka in a living room uh boston bruins own defenseman and he actually received the second place vote for the norris trophy last night i was gonna ask you if you got any votes i figured you might tory krug live in a person tory welcome to the show thanks guys thanks for. Oh, of course. So what did you think of getting the big vote last night? Did you know that? No, I just saw it afterwards. I think Elliott Friedman was posting it on Twitter and everything, and I looked it up and just curious.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I had no clue, didn't even think I'd get anything, and all of a sudden I see a second-place vote. I'm like, who's the idiot that voted me for second place? Maybe like fifth or sixth or something down the line, but I was surprised at all. 51 points, 52 points, 82 games played. I could see that. I really could. I would have immediately, if I was you, checked my contract.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Is there any bonus if I had a second place? Was that an extra 100K? As far as the playoffs, have you been watching them, or are you one of these guys who wants your teams out? You couldn't care less about them. No, I was listening to you guys when you had authority as the playoffs, have you been watching them, or are you one of these guys who wants your teams out, you couldn't care less about them? No, I was listening to you guys when you had authority on the show, and I knew exactly what he was going to say when he asked him that question. I fall into a very similar boat, but it's really hard.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Witt will admit that it's tough when you get back in the gym to be motivated, especially when you're sitting on your ass for a few weeks, and then all of a sudden you're thrown in the gym. so i take the the next couple rounds i'm pretty bitter that we lost and then once it gets to about the finals i start watching again to give myself some motivation and uh you know get back into the gym now this this year was i thought a tough end for you guys how frustrating is it was it for you to sit there and not you know not be able to take part knowing that you know you could have really made a difference out there. I think the margin between the Sens and Bruins is so close that
Starting point is 00:23:07 a guy like Yohann Magnets who could have made a difference I mean, is it tough to sit there? Not to interrupt can we get what happened? Because I don't know exactly did you need surgery? No, no surgery or anything. I just had a pretty bad MCL sprain and it was just a freak thing like pinching down
Starting point is 00:23:24 the boards against Ottawa and my leg whipped and it was like a freak thing, like pinching down the boards against Ottawa, and my leg whipped, and it was like non-contact, which is almost unheard of. So just a freak thing. And then back to your question about the playoffs, it's been three years since I played in a playoff game, and Boston playoffs are a special thing to be a part of. So I was pretty bitter up in the press box, jumping up and down when big plays were made.
Starting point is 00:23:44 But, you know, it's tough. It was a tough pill to swallow because every game we lost was a one-goal game. And our power play wasn't clicking at times. It stepped up and had a couple big goals here and there. But I know it's tough being up there when you know you can help make a difference. Right. And especially, like I said, you guys beat them. You go on to play Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I mean, I had said to Ryan, I think you guys would have given a good series. You've played them tough the last few years. So, I mean, it's probably doubly frustrating knowing that, Christ, we went ahead a path to the final here, you know? Yeah, well, you never know. At that point, it doesn't matter who's playing. The situation's what it is. If you get in, you know, you have a hot goaltender.
Starting point is 00:24:21 You know, you move on and you take the breaks when you get. You got to be lucky to make the finals. Obviously, we've had some success against Pittsburgh the last few years. They're another team that you get in there, and you never know what happens. It would have been fun to just get through. No, no, no. I was just going to say, when the season ends, I know it's different when you're finishing injured, but how long do you usually wait to get back in the gym?
Starting point is 00:24:44 Are you doing it now? He's coming in all ripped up here, boys. He's looking like a truck right now. Never mind Allie Ray's legs. Check out his gams over here. Marcel Dion wouldn't be going as nuts for you, though, last night. I saw that. That was hilarious. There's some twigs over there.
Starting point is 00:24:57 But, no, so what are you doing? And are you around, like, Boston all summer? You head home? What's your deal? I'm one of the guys. I took a page out of Thorny's book. I stick around. You have to go through the winter you want to enjoy the summer it's it's the only place that uh we have that we live in and so it's becoming a you know home for us and we enjoy it but um yeah I take a few weeks off go to some socks games um you know do that do
Starting point is 00:25:23 that thing where you just rest up and heal up. Rest up, have some beers. Yeah, exactly. And more than anything, physically, obviously, there's a lot of things after the season that you've got to take your time and heal up, but mentally it's a big thing too. Go out, eat whatever you want, have a couple beers and hang out, and then all of a sudden hit it hard when you get back in the gym.
Starting point is 00:25:40 So, yeah, that's it. So are you a guy who, like when I played, I didn't really skate till like the beginning of august are you on the ice in july and stuff are you just waiting are you just trying to just do all off ice stuff i'm uh twice a week at the end of july um and then i progress from there slowly from yeah i spend most of my time in the gym and making sure the body's ready and it's tough to jump on the ice when you're not ready oh you hop back in well you can ride that i used to say like you could ride the bike and work out like an animal all day.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And you put on skates and you're still huffing and puffing dying. It's like the muscles you just cannot do by skating. And then also when you jump out there, you feel like the worst hockey player in the world. Your hands are a joke. It's unbelievable. Zidano tells a story about how Hossa will just jump on the ice. Hasn't skated in three months. And then Hossa jumps on the ice, like hasn't skated in like three months, and then Hossa jumps on the ice.
Starting point is 00:26:26 He's the best player out there. That guy's a freak. We didn't even bring up, actually, because we did a little before you came, but that's crazy to think, like, have you ever seen what happened to him? I mean, he's done playing now. I don't know if everyone has heard, but he's allergic to his – a certain allergic reaction he has from his gear is so bad that he can't –
Starting point is 00:26:45 he's not going to play hockey this year, and he probably won't play again. I think they said the treatment they give him is actually – That's what – A lot of the side effects, and, you know, it's just – Have you ever heard of that? Of anything like that? I've heard of – Like a ringworm when your trainer's a lazy fuck and doesn't wash your ginsh.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I've seen that. Yeah, but, no, I've never heard of it, and it's tough. I've actually heard rumors that he was going through that this season, and to hear that it's obviously going to sit him out this season, it's tough to hear because he's such a great player. Yeah, it is unusual. Last night, the expansion draft, did you pay much attention to that? I knew you were obviously protected, but, well, we haven't had one for a while,
Starting point is 00:27:22 that you had to be unprotected. But what goes through a player's mind there as far as, you know? Yeah, you were going to say, do guys want to go? Or, like, do you have any buddies that were involved in that? No. Does Colin Miller you think happy that he's actually going to get a chance maybe to play more and go in there? Or is that tough for you to say? Yeah, I don't want to speak for Colin, but I do know that he loves Boston.
Starting point is 00:27:43 He lived in Saudi this year um starting to get you know a feel for things in the locker room he started to to come out a little bit out of his shell and he wasn't wasn't here a very long time but um you know people were starting to realize the type of guy he was and then on the ice he was uh now he's got a chance to step up and be the player he was I called him I said hey like I don't know I know you're disappointed but uh now is your chance go out there and show people what you got, and hopefully he does that. Yeah, I think he'll probably have a better opportunity because, well, obviously we already saw McAvoy fight, I think, with six games,
Starting point is 00:28:14 and I think he's ready for the NHL. Dude, that kid, man. Yeah, he's – Were you surprised how good he was right away? I mean, it would have been great if you were out there with him in the playoffs. You guys would have been perfect. Yeah, I can't say I was surprised, but any time someone goes in there and plays the minutes that he was playing,
Starting point is 00:28:33 that's pretty surprising. I knew he was going to have success. Minutes is what it is. He's got a swagger to him. All these young guys do now. But you have to. If you're going to be a young guy playing a league, you can't be going in there scared to make mistakes.
Starting point is 00:28:46 You've got to have that swagger, that cockiness, if you will, that helps guys play the style that we play. It helps them make those plays. Yeah, I was excited. He's a great kid too, a hell of a guy. Yeah, I mean, he's got him presumably number one. You've got to have Kyle behind him. So, I mean, as far as Miller, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I mean, he might not have been any higher than a top – well, I'm sorry, a third-pairing guy this year. Yeah, that's what we were saying. It's just like so many guys, and you've seen it, they're so close to being good in the NHL. Maybe they're just in a spot where they don't really get the chance to show what they can do. So, like, he strikes me as a guy who might be able to go there,
Starting point is 00:29:21 play top four minutes, and never worried about making a mistake and getting benched, and you know how it is. And he might just flourish. And I think some guys probably hated the fact that they had to leave their cities, but in the end, when they get there, it might be a good thing for them. Yeah, that might be a case. Like I said, I don't want to speak for Colin, but he's got all the tools, man. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And hopefully he does get the opportunity, and he takes advantage of it, and that's what this game's all about. It's just opportunity and running with it. So going back to you, I always ask these guys or when the guys we interview, I always say, when in your life did you think, all right, I think I can play in the NHL? Now, as an undersized guy, like I'm sure there was people all the time when you were younger, fucking almost getting in your ear, you're too little. But was there a moment when you're like, I can do this?
Starting point is 00:30:05 Or was it not until you turned pro and played in Providence? To be honest, it wasn't until my sophomore or junior year at Michigan State. Started dominating. Yeah. When I was 16, 17, getting a lot of pressure from the folks who pay a lot of money for me to play hockey. And I really didn't see it going anywhere. And then, um,
Starting point is 00:30:27 you know, I was thinking about hanging them up and maybe just taking it on as a hobby. And then, uh, you know, we even talk about, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:32 How big, all right. So 16, 17, you're thinking that how big were you then? Oh shoot. I was probably five, five at that point.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Like five. Yeah. I was tiny, man. And everyone's, I know you're like, well, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:30:43 I can't, I'm too small right now Yeah and then You know the head coach In Detroit Jeff Blaschel Saw me at like A select festival camp
Starting point is 00:30:50 And invited me To his training camp He was the head coach Of Indiana Ice In USHL And he called me And I was like I don't know
Starting point is 00:30:58 If I'm gonna go Like you know I don't think I have it Like I'm gonna get You're like I got this girlfriend Back home
Starting point is 00:31:03 You know I'm kinda done With hockey X-Files is out It's on this weekend I don't know So you know. You're like, I got this girlfriend back home. I'm kind of done with hockey. X-Files is on this weekend. So he's asking me, and I'm like, no, I'm just going to go to this other camp, get some experience, and maybe things will pan out. He goes, what are you talking about? Come make my team.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I was like, all right. If I come down there, that's where I'm going to do that. And he actually designed a power play penalty kill scrimmage just to see if I could run a power play at that level. No shit. Yeah, and then he had to straighten out the owner and um convince him to to put me on the team so i think the owner had to take some convincing but um the owner now is like uh okay i have no idea what i'm doing like what am i doing owning a
Starting point is 00:31:41 hockey team and then uh yeah things just progressed from there and michigan state i had a good freshman year i played with jeff petrie who's in montreal great pd yeah pd man he so he came up i saw him probably like you saw colin miller like i was in edmonton and he came up that's right yeah and i was like i sat right next to him i remember telling him like this fuck i go you're you're gonna be nasty like people couldn't really see edmonton was bad but so you must have seen how good he can skate he can hammer guys he's pretty fucking great player he's so wide too you can't go down skates like the wind and he looks it doesn't look slow it doesn't look like he's flying you see him buzzing by guys glad that's i didn't know you played with him yeah he was my d partner so i got to witness that firsthand and um i don't know obviously we were good for each
Starting point is 00:32:23 other but then i didn't know what it was going to be like without him the next year because he took off and signed in Edmonton and played some games, and then sophomore, junior, things just took off, and that's when I was like, all right, this is something that could happen. The NHL is still obsessed with size. No, I don't think anymore, though. Do you? It's getting better. It is getting better.
Starting point is 00:32:42 It's getting better, yeah. But Theo Fleury, who played, what, 20 I mean Theo Fleury played, you know, what 20, 30 years ago 25, 30 years ago I mean, Manny St. Louis So many guys, you know, undersized guys Have proved that You know, if you could be undersized
Starting point is 00:32:54 And still be a quality NHL I'm not saying all teams No, no I agree It's still But now I just think that Whereas a guy like St. Louis And Theo Fleury They had to had to like really prove it or you
Starting point is 00:33:07 know st louis you know he was calgary got rid of him now i think if you're that small you still get the shot right before i think guys didn't even get the shot i mean if you're coming up in the 80s man you might not even get a shot no chance and it's crazy to think like it's just that's you're right it's still like you look for that six foot one centerman or the taller defenseman but in the end it's at least now like oh let's see if this kid can play now having said that the biggest guy who ever played a position in the nhl is zidane ocharo what's what's it like having him for your cap and having him set the tone in the locker room out like what kind of a role model has he been to you as a professional yeah well i think early on it's it's extremely intimidating walking into a room with Zidane O'Chara, Patrice Bergeron, Tukes is there, Marci, all these guys.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I had Sean Thorne and Milan Lucic at the time, so I can run down the list. That'll keep your lips shut. Yeah, it's dead. Just like walking in like this. I think that was like the last time that rookies actually kept their mouth shut. Oh, yeah, they even fucking loud most now. It's a joke, yeah. Now they control the radio and the music in the room.
Starting point is 00:34:04 It's like a joke. But, yeah, so it was pretty intimidating walking into that room, but he was just so receptive. And, you know, it's just even though he's a foot taller than me, I try to pick things out of his game, like how simple he makes the game and the way he works. He's so intense. Every day he shows up to work and he's ready to go. And it doesn't matter if you just lost 5-0 the night before or you won 5-0.
Starting point is 00:34:27 This guy shows up and I'm very happy that I was able to pick some things up from him. You got any message for the NHL draft this weekend? You got any message for the kids who don't get drafted because obviously you weren't drafted? That's why he's a great producer. What a good question. That's a great question. He's going to make it. So you want me to speak to you on this one?
Starting point is 00:34:48 Yeah, never give up. He's like, man, just talk to me privately. I won't stop staring at you right now. Can you put in a good word for me? We can do this off the show if you want. Put in a word for Cam for me. No, I mean, to be honest, I went through it, and I was pretty bitter and pissed off that I didn't get drafted.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Were you? I didn't. Yeah, I was. Oh, shit. Well, the last year I had interviewed with the Bruins, I got along great with Rod Brendamore. He's a fellow Sparty down in Carolina. Hot Rod.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Yeah. Guy's a machine. Rod the bot, baby. Rod the bot, exactly. They locked him out of the weight room, I heard. Yeah, they did. So I had a good relationship with him. I went to their development camp the year prior.
Starting point is 00:35:28 So there were a few teams that had reached out and said, Hey, you know, we might take you. And, um, you know, sitting around watching your computer screen, like waiting, waiting, and nothing happens. And I was pretty pissed off, pretty bitter. And, um, I guess it was the best thing that ever happened to me. So if I got drafted, who's to say, you know, I don't get comfortable with where I was and I don't end up in the league so uh for me it was the the fuel on the fire and um I was lucky enough to be able to pick you know what team I could go play for that they had a hole in the lineup that I could fill and um you know I was excited about that right I don't think everyone realized that you could have played literally for anybody and you chose to come to Boston correct yeah how did that go down yeah well um it's a long process coming out of school.
Starting point is 00:36:07 There's a lot of people that obviously you can talk to and go through that process with. So you dwindle your list down to a few teams. I think I had about 10 to 15 teams that I could have talked to and progressed more seriously, but I dwindled it down to about three or four. The Bruins, they'd won the Stanley Cup a few years ago and people thought i was crazy for going there because their defense was stacked with you know z johnny sides ference and equator and you just go down the list and like where the hell are you gonna fit what are you doing buddy but they won the
Starting point is 00:36:38 stanley cup without a power play i think they were like six or seven percent they had the worst power play in the history to win the stanley cup yeah That's why they brought in Cabriolet and he couldn't literally do anything? Yeah. So that was my line of thinking. There was no one in that lineup that could do what I did. And I was lucky enough to get my shot a couple years later. No, I had been looking through your HockeyDB, and I was like, have you ever played internationally for team usa like
Starting point is 00:37:05 world juniors were around so if you're telling me it's 17 16 you didn't even know what was going on you weren't even you didn't even get a sniff in those not a sniff that's fucking unreal i don't know it was uh i just wasn't one of their guys and yeah at that point the development program and stuff it does matter boys but you know at the same time like i can't blame them i wasn't there wasn't anything special when i at that younger age and uh obviously i've always had similar talents that i do now like i was always a step ahead of the play i could think the game a certain way but physically i was you know i got drafted the ohl in like the 13th round i was five foot three 120 pounds so all right so you have so your game though like though, I'd say at least
Starting point is 00:37:46 one of your best weapons is your shot. You can really one-time a puck. Was it always like that even when you were little, or was that fine then when you got stronger? No, I had a muffin. You had a muffin? I had his muffin when he was 5'2", 120, and I was 6'4".
Starting point is 00:38:01 Wait a minute. He's got his shirt off. So you didn't have this shot. That's what it was. It wasn't just you were small, but you didn't really, and then it all started coming. But I bring up international
Starting point is 00:38:13 only because I haven't talked to that many guys. Were you upset no Olympics anymore? Are you happy with that? What was your thoughts on that whole thing? I just think it's a, I could give you the politically correct answer. No, we don't want that. No, I know, but I'm saying, first and? I just think it's a – I could give you the politically correct answer. No, we don't want that on the show. No, I know, but I'm saying, you know, first and foremost,
Starting point is 00:38:27 I think it's a big opportunity that they're missing to grow the game. Same here. Like, it's so many people over there. It's kind of ridiculous. And then a few years later, I think the Olympics is in Beijing or something. Yeah, either way, they're going to places that if they want to grow the game, I mean, forget being the guy who gets two, three weeks off if you're not in the Olympics or getting to play in the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:38:48 It's just, it doesn't make sense to me. I didn't know if you thought the same. No, that's the first thing that comes to mind. And then the second thing is, you know, this might be my last crack at an Olympic team and playing for Team USA and, you know, filling a childhood dream. So, yeah, that's kind of, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:03 the main reason I'm upset about it. Grinnelli's happy because he might make that Olympic team. He's got all warrior gear. It's just going well. You're a big movie guy. We talk about movies on the show here and there. You're a big hockey movie guy. What's your off-ice stuff?
Starting point is 00:39:18 Golfer, anything? Yeah, yeah, I'm working on the golf game, slowly but surely. I had shoulder surgery last year, so that set me back a whole summer, which I don't think it mattered too much in the long end, but I'm working on the golf game slowly but surely. I had shoulder surgery last year so that set me back a whole summer which I don't think it mattered too much in the long end but I'm working on it, yeah. I got a question for you.
Starting point is 00:39:31 So, I'm looking at your legs here and This kid, man. I'm willing to say that both of my thighs combined aren't even the size of one of yours.
Starting point is 00:39:41 That was me. You can throw mine in too. That was me with Crosby too. These guys that can skate, they got the big fucking quads on them. How much do you squat? He's like a girl at the greatest bar right now.
Starting point is 00:39:54 I know, can't believe it. I'm trying to drag you into one of my bedrooms over here. Oh, man. So, all right. So we got, looking forward to next season. Pasternak this year, he's a young guy that's great.
Starting point is 00:40:07 You have Bergeron healthy. What do you guys think that, like, I know, not what are your goals, because every team has the same goals, but realistically, you know, with Tuca in there, you guys think you could probably go pretty far and make at least a run in the playoffs, I would say, with the roster you have. Yeah, that's the thing. You know, with Tuca, you can obviously create some damage. So how about fans in the city who don't think he's a good goalie?
Starting point is 00:40:29 That's insane. Can we talk to those bosses? What the fuck is wrong with Moura? How good is he? He's unbelievable. I don't score on him in practice. Seriously. It's like under 10 goals a year in practice for me on him.
Starting point is 00:40:41 And other players, you know, maybe less. It's so easy, too. It's such a joke. But, yeah, he's incredible. I, you know, so many times he's bailed myself out. And, obviously, the team out as well. And it's a joke. He doesn't get the credit that he deserves.
Starting point is 00:40:56 But, you know, I guess that's one of the special things about playing in Boston, too. I was going to say, you've been here a few years now. I mean, I don't know. You seem like too nice of a guy to be called an asshole, unlike me and Whitney over here. But what's on – Shoot! Shoot!
Starting point is 00:41:11 Those people. Fuck you guys. What are your favorite things about the city, and what are the things about Boston that you're not so crazy about? I don't know. I mean, I love the summers. I always hear it's special here going to Fenway. That's your dog's name, right? Yeah, yeah. I almost brought her today. I didn't know. Oh, I love the summers, obviously. It's special here, going to Fenway. That's your dog's name, right?
Starting point is 00:41:26 Yeah, yeah. I almost brought her today. I didn't know. Oh, I love that. Cool. But, yeah, I love the people. It's funny, man. I love the fans.
Starting point is 00:41:36 I love, you know, you'll be walking down the street. They'll shout your name, just say hi, and they're not doing anything crazy. Like, you know like begging you for pictures or autographs or anything. It almost feels like you're part of the city. So I love that, and I love the expectations. It's the one thing that pushes us forward as athletes and as a team as well. They expect a championship-caliber team every year.
Starting point is 00:42:00 They expect you to be better than you are, and they expect you to reach your ceiling. So that's the two things I love most yeah and the traffic sucks you traffic yeah it took me way too long to get here today it's a joke so i ask all the guys where i try to remember what is your favorite thing while playing in the nhl we can go to road cities flying private eric just do you have do you have anything that you just like, someday 20 years from now, you'd be like, that was the best part of the league. Oh, man. I wish we
Starting point is 00:42:29 could wear go-no-buckets and warm-ups. Dude! Halsey fucked that one up. Yeah, he really did. Did he do it? So that's what made Edmonton. Is that with you guys, too? That's one of the main reasons. I think someone else did it at the same time. Yeah, it was main reasons. I think someone else did it the same time.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Yeah, it was somebody else. I remember. Yeah, it was that same season. Somebody else took a shot off the eye or something. Yeah, something crazy. No bucket and one off. That made me so mad because I was so fired up to take my helmet off. Actually, we got a little breaking news.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Oilers send Jordan Eberle to the Islanders in exchange for Ryan Strom in the first big deal after the trade freeze. Yeah. Ebs out of Edmonton. I mean, I love that people will be listening to this. It's a day late tomorrow. Either way, I mean, that just shows. All right, so that actually can let me ask you quickly.
Starting point is 00:43:18 You're not in a position to worry right now, but do you ever notice how tough it is for guys when you hear your name in the rumors in the trade mill and you're like, oh, god damn it. I'm sure you haven't dealt with it really, but you can tell being in a locker room. It sucks for guys to just worry and think about that. Yeah, I will say fans have absolutely no idea what the trade deadline does to us as players. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:39 It actually rattles me to a certain point. I've never been involved in too many rumors, a few here and there. But to see guys go through it, they families they have you know sons daughters they're enrolled in school for the fans and you're just like oh well i'm just grinding through yeah exactly they're they're so stressed out they don't even sleep at night they got to pull their kids out of school go find a new place to live in a different city and uh just people don't understand what it's like to uproot and go to a new place. And that's the one thing that bothers me. But it's exciting to watch, man.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I'm sitting here looking over the next couple days and wondering what's going to go on. A lot going on. Speaking of a lot going on, obviously you said you listen to the show, so you're familiar with All Right Hamilton. When we take listening to questions, so stick around. We always finish off with this, and then we'll let you go. All right, boys. Savvy Senior, not Savvy Junior, Savvy Senior
Starting point is 00:44:26 asked, who was the sneakiest, tough guy you ever played against? Not a lot of penalty minutes, but you knew not to piss him off or he would destroy you. Wow. Pretty first. Guy I played against. I'll tell you who a guy
Starting point is 00:44:41 for sure I didn't play against. I'm just in practice, but Kevin Miller is that guy. He looks like a lot of people when he fights. Yeah, he's crazy, man. He gets pretty upset. Yeah, you don't piss that guy off because he's going to punch your face in. Who was a good guy?
Starting point is 00:45:02 I think of a guy like Ben Eager. i remember i played with him and against him but you're just like you know they fight but then there's this side of them that will just completely fucking murder you so i mean i this kid steve penizzato too i played with him he played a little bit with uh edmonton i played with him in the minors he plays in germany now but he was this guy too who's pretty skilled and all of a sudden he'd be punching someone's head and you're like uh i didn't know you had that in you. Did you see that fight this year? It was Sam Bennett and Jacob Truba or something.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Shocking knock-toes. I didn't expect that at all. So there's guys like that all around the league, and you're like, all right, this little skinny little kid. That's why I think if you ask most fighters, as they're not around that often anymore, but guys who, like, know what they're doing, you can never really, the minute you think you have somebody, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:50 Like, oh, this guy's no deal. You're just going to get knocked out. It's like Max Domi. He's little, but he can chuck and knock. Yeah, he dummied Kessler this year, didn't he? Yeah. And then he kept fighting, and then he broke his hand. They were like, all right, buddy, you're a playmaker here.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Let's go. All right, so. All right, who's yours? Like, Sully down the block. I was going to say, with some of those project kids, you had to worry about the blade on the stick. I mean an actual knife blade that might be on the stick when you're going against them. So you had to keep an eye out for that stuff. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:14 So Ryan Coos asks, what's your favorite childhood hockey memory? Oh, I can go first because I know mine right away. Let him think. And because I don't want to get detention. You ever play in the Quebec peewee tourney? I sure did, yeah. I actually did as well. Oh!
Starting point is 00:46:30 We took that down. So, Shore Kings, 1983. We beat the Richmond Hill Stars in the final. The only... What's the thing they put when there's an asterisk? Asterisk, yeah. The only asterisk is that year the Toronto Metro Hockey League, what is it?
Starting point is 00:46:47 Is it like TMH, whatever? GTHL. GTHL. They had boycotted it so their top two teams weren't there, Toronto when you're 12 years old. So, Grant, we might have had trouble with them, but that was my favorite memory. Yeah, we actually beat the Middlesex Islanders in the quarterfinals.
Starting point is 00:47:02 That's who I beat in the semifinals that year. No shit. Did you win it too? Yeah, we won it, yeah. And he still has a better memory. He's like, no big deal, won that thing. We went 0-4. They let you play the last two games in a mall.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Yeah, it's like a terrible, terrible rink. There's a rollercoaster going over there. You know how they would do player of the game, though, each game? I did get player of the game one game just because I won about every faceoff. There you go. We lost about 13-0. That's Canada.
Starting point is 00:47:29 They respect the defensive side of the park. Exactly. Bergeron in the making. Exactly. Let me see. Honestly, up North Adams, man, we had street hockey
Starting point is 00:47:38 tournament, dude. And I played on some scrub team my first year. You're like, I chugged the most beers after the win. No, dude, we had like a one-day tournament. And honestly, dude, I don't know if what I ate the night before, dude, I stood on some scrub team my first year. You're like, I chugged the most beers after the win. No, dude, we had like a one-day tournament. And honestly, dude, I don't know if what I ate the night before, dude,
Starting point is 00:47:48 I stood on my head the whole day. I had dudes legit coming up and like, asked me if I took lessons over the summer and like street hockey goaltending. I was like, no, man, just on a better team. So, yeah, winning a day-long tournament as the goaltender was probably my high point. Just like a copy. Yeah, I mean, Quebec was unbelievable. How sick was that?
Starting point is 00:48:06 Yeah, it was amazing. You feel like a superstar NHL player. You're 13 years old. Mugging it up with chicks at 12. You're like, this is the NHL. My cup's out of place. Yeah, that was pretty cool. I had a couple good ones.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Not just memories that I was a part of. My brother took a stick to the eyebrow in the street hockey, had to get a bunch of stitches. My two older brothers got in a fight at a rink playing drop-in hockey and beat the crap out of each other. Both had to go get stitches. So just little things like that. It was fun to be a part of.
Starting point is 00:48:36 All right. Andy asks, best captain or leader of a team you ever played with? All right, Hamilton. I think we know. Really? I'm not going to piss Z off by getting any other answer. you ever played with? All right, Hamilton. I think we know who Torrey is. Yeah. Not going to piss Z off by getting any other answer.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Well, you were a captain on Michigan State too, correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what? I think Crosby was the captain I think of. One of the best players of all time.
Starting point is 00:48:57 But Sean Horkoff too. A guy who's now retired working for the Detroit Red Wings. You know him well. And I feel like Hork took a lot of heat when he signed a big deal with Edmonton after they went to the cup finals. He signed that huge ticket, and he had a couple great offensive seasons, but he wasn't that offensive player much longer after he signed the deal.
Starting point is 00:49:17 So he took heat in Edmonton, but he was a captain, and he's worked out and trained with them. Nobody trained harder. He would show up every night to every game. We were losing 8-0 to the Blackhawks. He's still doing the right thing. I think of him all the time. It's easy to be a captain when you're winning.
Starting point is 00:49:31 He was a captain on a team that really struggled. Every guy who played with him, I would say, he's an amazing leader. Working out, he's a fucking animal. He's an animal. He's a dick to play against, too. It doesn't matter. You're up 8-0 and he's in the corner sticking you out. That's who I think of.
Starting point is 00:49:45 That wraps up the questions on All Right Hamilton. Now, Torrey, what are your plans for the rest of the summer here? Like you said, you're staying in Boston for the summer, which speaks volumes for the city. We like to have our guys stick around for the summer. Other than working out and going to Fenway, what else you got on tap? I got a trip to China planned with the Bruins and a sponsorship that they're going over
Starting point is 00:50:08 to spread the game over there. It's fun. Something I'm looking forward to. I'd never go probably if it wasn't for this trip. That's what I'm doing. Nice. I think that's about wrapping up the tour. Thank you enough, buddy. Honestly, thanks so much for coming all the way over here in studio for the
Starting point is 00:50:24 show. It's been a... In studio. I me, guys. To appear in studio for the show. In studio. I like that. Colebrook. We got hot chicks walking around the studio. Free Gatorade. What's up, honey? Yeah, what's up, babe? So, no, seriously, thanks a lot for coming over, making yourself available to us.
Starting point is 00:50:36 It's been great. We'd love to have you back again. Appreciate it. All right, guys. Bye. Peace out. Peace out. Now that you're gone All that's left is a band of gold
Starting point is 00:50:53 All that's left of the dreams I hold Is a band of gold And the memory of what love could be If you were still

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