Spittin Chiclets - Spittin' Chiclets Episode 38: Featuring Johnny Gaudreau & Kevin Hayes

Episode Date: July 14, 2017

On Episode 38 of Spittin' Chiclets, three-time All-Star Johnny Gaudreau of the Calgary Flames and native Bostonian Kevin Hayes of the New York Rangers stop by the studio to gas beers and have a some c...huckles. The boys ran the gamut and talked about everything from Johnny Hockey wearing Yeezys on a horse to Hayesy's late bloom as an impact player and everything in between. This episode was a blast to record. Enjoy.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/schiclets

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Spittin' Chicklets listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. This week's episode of Spittin' Chicklets is brought to you by Dunkin' Energy Punch, powered by Monster Energy. You know, Mikey, first, we haven't recorded at night in a while. I'm an old guy struggling to keep awake, man. I'll tell you, the Dunkin' Punch hit me right where I needed it, dude. Yeah, where would you guys be without that punch today? Honestly, I mean, it's an electrifying combination, a monster energy drink,
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Starting point is 00:00:46 So go out, crush your day with the new Duncan Energy Punch powered by Monster Energy and either blue raspberry or the strawberry flavor. Remember everybody, America runs on Duncan. Price and participation will vary. It's a limited time offer. So go out and get energized with the Duncan Energy Punch. Hello, everybody. Welcome to episode 38 of Spittin' Chicklets, brought to you by Barstool Sports. What up, what up? This is Brian Whitney. Hello, gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:01:27 This is Mikey Grinnelli. Grinnelli doesn't have a mic today. He's a little bit of a muppet. That's because we got two guests this week. Yes, we do. Right here. We should have introduced right here. Hello, say hello.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Dynamic duo. Kevin Hayes. And who we got? Johnny Gajal. Johnny Hockey and the Hizzy. Rich Biaz. So, you know what? This is actually an interesting episode for us. I'm rich, bitch! So, you know what? This is actually an interesting episode for us.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I'm really feeling the vibe. One, you know, because it's night. Usually we record in the morning. People don't understand. But night, you know, it's summertime. A couple frosties. I haven't seen Hazy in a while. A couple frosties for the wit dog.
Starting point is 00:01:58 And so it's great to have you guys here. And we first want to get going. You're here because of the ComAv charity classic. Am I getting that name right? Yes. It's tomorrow night. The whole time at BU did you good, huh? Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:09 So I wish I could be playing in this, dude. I would fucking. I would try to put in a good word for you. Malane said. I got gassed. Bad ankles. They wouldn't even let me be the water boy. Bad ankles.
Starting point is 00:02:19 People who don't know, it is BU alumni versus BC alumni. The big rivalry. You know, the calm half rivalry. Mile down the road, you two. I want to know who's winning the game because BU's got Eichel, McAvoy. Who else we got? Who else we got? Coyle. Why is it someone else?
Starting point is 00:02:35 Special appearance, Keith Yandel. For which team? BU. Oh, wait a minute. Wow. That seems like a rule-breaking though. Funniest story ever, by the way. People need to hear this story. Keith Yandel's dad, Buddy, is just a complete legend. Coached high school hockey in Massachusetts.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Coached me growing up. So Keith wasn't great at school. Kevin, would you agree with that? He wasn't great. Amazing hockey player. But the Brown coach came up to Buddy at one of the games at Cushing Academy when Keith was playing there. And he said, Buddy, I'm so-and-so. We're really interested in recruiting Keith to have him come play hockey at Brown.
Starting point is 00:03:09 And Buddy goes, the only Brown Keith's ever going to see is in his underwear. And the guy's like, all right. He goes, yeah, he's probably going major junior where he went and is now dominated. But that's my favorite Buddy Handel story. So what have you guys been doing all summer? Johnny, where do you usually work out during the summer? Yeah, where are you living at? Yeah, I live in South Jersey with my family down there.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I'm Pitt. Jersey Shore is nice down there. Come on. Dude, you know you love the Jersey Shore. Never bet. If anyone wants to take me, I'm free. Well, yeah, I'm down there in Jersey. Workout and skate down there.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Mostly skate. And then I go out to Calgary for a little bit. I was actually just out there for the Stampede, which was crazy fun. Let's get to that. No one gave you a pair of cowboy boots. I could have gave you my national boots. Yeezys are so legit. You see my tweet?
Starting point is 00:03:59 Yeezys on a horse. You're an absolute baller if you're wearing Yeezys on a goddamn horse. Can you fill in everyone for people who don't know because I never got to experience the Stampede like what it is. It's a time and a half.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Yeah, I mean, this is my second year going and I think I'll go there for the rest of my life every summer. It's just a lot of fun. A ton of live music, tents all around
Starting point is 00:04:24 and it's a pretty fun time. I think of live music, tents all around. It's a pretty fun time. I think Kev's already coming. I signed a one-year deal for next year. Just a one-year deal with a two-year option. A little bit of a culture shock. Guys from the Northeast doing the whole cowboy and wrestling and lasso stuff. I mean, that's not stuff we're used to up here, is it? No, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:40 There's a ton of rodeos, chuck wagon races, stuff like that. And then towards the nighttime, there's some pretty big concerts. Kind of less country now. It's getting bigger, more of the diplos and kind of stuff like that. I saw Bilesarians. Yeah, he was there. Johnny went to dinner with them. Did you have a little supper with that guy?
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah, after the Dustin Lynch concert, he flew in. So we went and got Some late night Chinese Who would meet him Lynch and the owner Paul Vickers of Cowboys Down there So it was pretty sweet
Starting point is 00:05:12 Yeah That's a boss Yeah So were those girls around him? Yeah Shoot any guns to him? Does he always have like An AR-15 in his pocket
Starting point is 00:05:20 Yeah No yeah He ain't shooting blanks So I'll tell you that Hey yo I do think I will say I will say That the stampede in his pocket. Yeah, no, yeah. He ain't shooting blanks, so I'll tell you that. Hey-oh. Hey-oh. I do think, I will say,
Starting point is 00:05:28 I will say that the stampede I've been told by Mike Commodore, who everyone knows, Calgary, I wouldn't say legend, but everyone remembers him for his hair. He told me it was
Starting point is 00:05:37 the best thing going. But he actually said like watching the legit stampede part of it with like, what are they called when you're getting bucked off the horse?
Starting point is 00:05:44 What's that called? Rodeo. Yeah, rodeo. That's nuts. I saw one in Edmonton. It was crazy. the legit stampede part of it with like, what are they called when you're getting bucked off the horse? What's that called? Rodeo. Yeah, rodeo. That's nuts. I saw one in Edmonton. It was crazy. Yeah, I think I went and saw one that was,
Starting point is 00:05:51 the guy's riding a horse, he jumps off and he's got to tackle and put a bull in a headlock, a little bull, and it was crazy. You were thinking. Yeah, you need some stones for that.
Starting point is 00:05:59 So just going back to your summer workout, now do you do all your workout in South Jersey with a lot of flyers? Is there a same crew of guys? No, I kind of just work out. It's more of a college group.
Starting point is 00:06:08 My brother went to college, and then there's one other AHL guy. But we keep it simple in there. We have one trainer in there, and it's a small little group, but it's fun. Actually, Anthony D'Angelo, who's playing with the Rangers, is working out there with us too. So it's a small group, but we've grown up together, so it makes it fun. Did you miss Boston after playing here for a couple of years? Yeah, I do. Actually, I miss it a ton.
Starting point is 00:06:30 It's a fun city to be in. I miss playing with this guy a little bit, but it was fun. It was a great time at BC and got to win an Addy there and a couple of bean pots. Not a big deal. Four bean pots. Four for four. You want four for four? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I went three for three, kid. Oh, why don't you just put your cocks on the table? You're going to do this. Dude, my cock wouldn't reach the table. Hold on, give me a minute. I'm going to jump up. We didn't even win my junior year. We lost.
Starting point is 00:07:00 It was two for three. What a Muppet move. All right, so I wanted to get into BC, though, because you guys weren't the same grade? No. I actually remember when I was in Newport, Rhode Island on a yacht. Not a big deal. Not a big deal for so many.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And Jerry York called me and was like, hey, I need you at the rink at 7 a.m., middle of summer, end of the summer. Yeah. End of the summer. And I'm like, fuck. All right, Jerry York's telling me to do things. I'm not in shape for this. I got to do it. So I drive my mom's blue convertible Audi down there. Pop down?
Starting point is 00:07:33 No, no, no. It's too early in the morning. And he's like, we have this recruit coming, him and his brother. You got to tour him around the campus. And who but me to tour around the campus. Yeah, exactly. Big group around the campus. I know but me to tour around i don't i don't it's it out and uh so i remember i pull up him and his brother and his dad or uh your mom was there too yeah um they're out front and i'm not joking i had no clue what one i was like actually recruiting for the next year because they're both like the same size they had they had khaki shorts on in the usa hockey polos that you get at the festival yeah so they both had it and i'm like
Starting point is 00:08:11 like i don't know what's going on and then i guess uh coach coach cavanaugh was like yeah this kid just lit up the ushl and he decommitted because uh one of the coaches at northeastern left and i'm like and then throughout like the first minutes, I still had no idea who, like who was who. And I remember walking around and not one of them was saying a word at all. And I'm like, this is a library.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I'm like, you guys could care less about this place. And I'm like, all right, I'll give him a good tour, like the good places to go and stuff. And then ultimately he signed
Starting point is 00:08:39 and he wore this terrible yellow bucket in captain's practice. No, no, red bucket. The debut. Like he had the long cape. He had the big score in Switzerland. Yeah, exactly No, no, red bucket. The debut. He had the long cage. He scored in Switzerland. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:47 He had this red bucket on in practice, and we're all like, dude, this is embarrassing. There's no way this kid's going to help our team. And we do a shootout at the end for whoever loses has to wear a hilarious outfit at a tailgate. No drinking. No drinking. And I remember he comes down on the break.
Starting point is 00:09:05 The freshmen go last because you want them to lose. He comes down on his strong side and just goes bar down. Who was the goalie, Mills? Yeah, I'm parking him in a bar down. We're like, all right, this kid might actually be legit. And all of a sudden, he just lit it up, got nicknamed Johnny Hockey. So I actually take. Is Johnny, okay, was that Manziel's year?
Starting point is 00:09:25 Were you guys the same year? It was Manziel's year. He won it, and then I lost that year in the Hobie hat trick my sophomore year. So your sophomore year was his freshman year when he was like Johnny Football. Yeah. So you didn't have Johnny Hockey your freshman year? No, no. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Yeah, but your freshman year, you still had a big year, right? Yeah, I did, all right. He had five points his first game. Did you really? That's like Gianta. Michigan State. Gianta had five in the first period. Gianta had five tucks in the first period.
Starting point is 00:09:52 You had four or five points in the first. No, it was the second game we were in the icebreaker tournament. Oh, second game. Sorry. Kev, you weren't a center yet. You weren't a center. Did you guys play together all three years? Not until my senior year.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I had a word with the coaches. And that's when you got 60 points. You reached that foot. Thanks, Johnny. So it's kind of like you were Crosby a little bit? No, no. I'm worse. I'm way worse.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Kevin's still nasty. I'm busting chops. So, all right. So that's what I wanted to know. Like, you kind of went into it. But for you, Johnny, like, your whole life, obviously, everyone's told you you're so small, blah, blah, blah. But you were always so good.
Starting point is 00:10:26 That's the thing. The clips we were talking about earlier, have you seen the clips when he's little? Was that at the brick tournament? Yeah, the brick tournament. He does the same goals. Can we get this on the Instagram, Grinnelly? Have you seen this, dude? I probably have.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I bet you have. Behind the net, fake one-way wrap around strong side. So you were always the best player going up. So everyone kept telling me. Worst style, though. Yeah. Socks over the the best player going up. So everyone kept talking about you. Worst style though. Yeah. Socks over the skates up until he was like 12.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Oh no. Behind the heel of the skate. You did. Behind the heel of the skate. I did. I did. Yeah. That's a Burlington move
Starting point is 00:10:54 like Grinnelli does. So but what I'm trying to get at, I can't spit out questions, is like did you just keep believing the whole time or were you just like I don't even know if I'll be in the nhl i just love hockey yeah no i didn't i never thought i was gonna play no shit never until probably after my when did you know that's
Starting point is 00:11:13 my freshman year of college i went to development camp the next summer i was like i think i can maybe maybe play in the hl and i was like maybe might be able to play in the nhl someday if i three-time all-star. Three for three. So your freshman year at BC, during that year at Beanpot, you're like, if someone asks you, I'm not going to make the NHL. No. No chance. No. I was playing next to Chris Cranmer.
Starting point is 00:11:35 This guy's going to play in the NHL. No way. I'm playing in the NHL. Yeah. And you see how fast in his body and you're just like, dude, I'm not this human. Like look at me right now. Yeah. But then you look at him go offside by like 50 feet that one clip.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Just a horrific rider play. So did you think he could play? Be honest. No, be honest. I remember I heard about you. I'm like, he's too small. No, I remember during that captain's practice, there's some freshmen who played in the USHL and some who played prep,
Starting point is 00:12:02 and everyone's like, all the kids in the USHL are like, hey, I'm telling you, this kid is unbelievable like he lit it up that's what it always was you hear from other people and then like the freshman that didn't play in the ushl were like all right come on like get off of his fucking get off of him like he's not gonna make it as like a freshman whatever yeah all right that's the ushl yeah exactly i played prep this is hockey yeast and and then he just absolutely lit it up and i didn't get to play with him until my senior year. Thanks, Jerry.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I guess I had to pay my dues. John, you went good draft on the fourth round. Now, going into the draft, did you have any idea where you were going to go? The fact you got passed over so many times pissed you off, or were you just kind of happy to be there? What were your thoughts on that? No, I didn't even think I was going to get drafted. No shit, really?
Starting point is 00:12:42 You didn't think you were going to get drafted at all? I was ranked like 203 out of 211 North American skaters. He's fired. Imagine seeing the list of these kids, like works at Subway, bartender, UFC fighter. Johnny Hockey. So when they call your name, were you totally shocked? I mean, you didn't have an inkling that you might get picked? I was actually in the middle of a hockey tournament at my dad's rink called the Gatorade Tournament.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And I had a game that day. I had no idea I was going to get drafted. Played the whole game. It was like the middle of the second or third. My mom comes running around. Science insurance wave. My mom starts running around. She's like, the GM, Jay Feaster, is on the phone.
Starting point is 00:13:21 You just got drafted to Calgary. And I ran outside. There's cement around the rink. So I had to crawl on my knees outside. I went and called him. I'm like out of breath. He's like, why are you out of breath? I'm like, I'm in the middle of a game.
Starting point is 00:13:34 He's like, all right, I'll let you get back to it. And then crawled back. And I saw my mom on the stand right by the bench crying. And I'm like, why is she here? She's like, Cal is she so far away? Why did you get drafted there? I'm like,
Starting point is 00:13:50 oh, geez. Here we go. Thanks a lot, mom. I just got fucking drafted. I didn't even
Starting point is 00:13:54 think I was going to get drafted. I was just worried about where I'm getting drafted at.
Starting point is 00:13:58 But no, she was happy for me and it was a pretty cool experience. She's like, I've seen
Starting point is 00:14:02 clips of the party during the summer called the Stampede. I don't hate you around miles areas. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:10 So I want to get a little into this goon, right? So then we get the first round pick. The young stud out of Boston dominated your entire life pretty much, I would say. No? I went through a pretty fat phase where I was brutal. But you were still good then. P-H-A-T or F-A-T? Both.
Starting point is 00:14:24 F-A-T. Both. All right. So you're nobles? Yeah. fat like a pretty fat phase where you were still good then yeah phat or fat fat both when all right so you're you're probably nobles yes seven eight ninth grade and then we're in 10th and then i worked out with brian mcdonough i actually took it serious oh you didn't you started working on 10th grade huh seventh grade so so me jimmy what were you what was your diet no lays chips lays chips in the morning yeah oh yeah there wasn't i didn't even know how to spell diet at that time but no we were in brian mcdonough eps uh first group it was me my brother joe callahan and jordan virtue joe callahan's a beauty oh one of the best guys ever, yeah. And I remember he was professional, and I was a little twerp, and he donated medicine balls to the gym.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And I'm like, that's my goal is I want to be able to make enough money to donate medicine balls to a gym. Flying private to the Yellowstone Club isn't in my radar. I want to get a medicine ball. I want to give it to the gym. I'll put my name on it. But, yeah, and then 10th grade I kind of grew a medicine ball. I want to give it to the gym. I'll put my name on it. But yeah, and then 10th grade, I kind of grew into my body. I grew like a fucking bunch of inches and stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And then, yeah, I did it the right way, I think. I played 23 high school games and then didn't play hockey until the draft. That's just, I know. And it's so uncommon now. Like I think, so what are you – you were born in 92? Yeah. All right. So I'm 10 years – 11 years older than you.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And it was more normal with me. But that's when it kind of started where like no one – you played junior before, junior after. And it would just be like a long season. Before, like Mike Motto, dude, it was 20 games. And then you played another sport. And I think in a sense it was good. Oh, no, for sure. But did you stay at Nobles through graduation?
Starting point is 00:16:06 11th grade, and then I skipped my senior year, transferred to Westie High. That's where you're? Yeah, graduate. Wait, West Roxbury? Yeah, West Roxbury High, and went to BC. They got, like, knives and guns in the corners of the diploma. That's like, well, I think, like, Grizzie,
Starting point is 00:16:20 he actually technically graduated from Charlestown High School, which is kind of hilarious. Oh, because you were advancing to U.K. Yeah, so I didn't have enough credit to graduate Nobles, but I had enough credit to graduate Westy. And then I went to school a year early. But I actually... Funny story. So you're a product of Boston Public Schools. Shout out. No, a week and a half ago,
Starting point is 00:16:38 eight years later, Nobles gave me a diploma. About a week and a half ago. Stair still hasn't given me one. Because I left for the national program. Neither one of you guys got invited? No, I never even got invited.
Starting point is 00:16:50 No, me neither. Isn't that like, I mean, that program has produced some amazing players, but it just shows how late bloomers you can be found anywhere.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I got to ask, what's that D on the hat? That's not the Cowboys. Is it Dynamo Moscow and the Cowboys? Oh, okay, no. No. Sorry, Comrade Whitney. Oh, yeah. I'm just kidding? That's not the Cowboys. That's Dynamo Moscow in the college. Oh, okay. No. Sorry, Comrade Whitney. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I'm just kidding. It's just the Dodgers. It's just a spring training hat. I'm a big hat guy. I probably have close to like 200 hats. When I eventually become a millionaire, never. I'm going to have a room this size just with all my hats. You'll see a bunch of shitty radio right now.
Starting point is 00:17:23 You guys watched the ESPYs last night at Big Hockey? A little bit. Big sports guys, you watching, Johnny? A little, yeah. PK was putting on a show with Sully. Sully's Snapchat. PK, did you see the line he said to the girl about Lindsey Vonn looking hot? So he was getting interviewed before.
Starting point is 00:17:44 By Hannah Storm. By Hannah Storm. By Hannah Storm. What was the line? He said, oh, it's hotter out here. It's hotter on this carpet than Lindsey Vonn because she's hot. And Hannah Storm was interviewing. She kind of chided him a little bit. She's a very powerful, strong woman.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Couldn't even say a girl's good looking. You got Hannah Storm barking down your tree. Can't do anything. We know Hannah want me. Dude, couldn't you just say, hey, girl, it's good looking. You got Hannah Storm barking down your tree that you got to be like, she's athletic. Yeah, we know Hannah. Jesus. That's Espy's talk by us. Did you see the joke he played on Edelman? He had a Boston police badge on him, and he walked over to Edelman.
Starting point is 00:18:19 He's like tapping on his shoulder. He's like, can I talk to you for a minute, Boston police? But Edelman looked at him right away and goes, you're not that hockey player, dude. Like, he called this fucking bluff right away. Absolutely not. It was freaking hilarious. I want to go to NHL talk quick.
Starting point is 00:18:32 All right. So you guys, have you played against each other how many times? Six. Who's got more points? Would you even know? After two, it was me. Really? The first year.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Johnny had a quick four-pointer. Yeah, probably. I don't know I'm not really sure It might be close No, remember you picked off Yans' pass Yans tried to go
Starting point is 00:18:51 Goal line to far blue Oh, yeah Picked it off Straight up pizza In the slot Bar down Pizza I think I remember that
Starting point is 00:19:00 Keith's like, fuck Now, when you guys Play against each other Like that Do you guys want to Like fucking bury each other Or you guys want to fucking bury each other? No. Or do you just want to score on each other?
Starting point is 00:19:07 What kind of mental coach do you have? Score for sure. I don't think I'd ever hit this guy. You don't hit anyone, dude. No, man. You had a great year this year. It's unfortunate that you weren't a free agent. You've got to now do it again, which I'm sure you will.
Starting point is 00:19:25 But that's what I wanted to talk about. In terms of your training, I kind of lost my train of thought. You said you were a fat kid when you were little, right? Last summer, how much weight did you lose? 24. 24 pounds. You noticed it that much on the ice this year right away? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:39 So we played golf at the same place. Shout out Wally World. Doesn't rain over Wally World. Golf big lefty, likes hitting a big hole draw. But I started noticing this kid looked thinner and thinner. Finally, we find out he loses that much weight. And then right when camp started, Alain Vigneault said, Kevin Hayes has been our most impressive player in terms of coming back.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Did you remember him saying that? Something like that makes such a difference in terms of that confidence starting the year. Yeah, it's great. I mean, you always take compliments. It makes you feel better about yourself. But I had a good rookie year. I had a below average second year. And I was healthy scratch to end
Starting point is 00:20:15 the season in the playoffs. Who wants to do that? That's such a shitty way to end the year. And we lose. Like postseason, like Bender, you're like I can't even go party. Yeah. I went home, took five days off total. Good for you. And then, I mean, you can't be, like, the boys lose and you can't even
Starting point is 00:20:32 like you did nothing. You can't even be like, how about that battle I lost before? Dude, you were in the stand with popcorn. Yeah, literally. Popcorn. So have you ever been scratched? No way. Anywhere, anytime? Yeah. My fourth game in the NHL, we were playing Columbus,
Starting point is 00:20:49 and I thought I was getting sent down. I talk to my GM all the time and give him a hard time. But he's like, yeah, if one of our players didn't get hurt that game you got scratched, we were sending you down the next day. And I was like, really? That's breaking news. Is that a lie? Yeah. you down the next day and i was like really so that's breaking news yeah yes so i mean uh i had to i got in the next game against winnipeg i remember like it was yesterday i was like i need to do something tonight like how many points did you have no two a goal and assist i
Starting point is 00:21:18 remember like it was yesterday i scored a wraparound goal and had like an a measly assist but still i was so happy and then kind of just took off from there but i was i asked my gm all the time he was like you were so close to being sent down i don't think it's just a big joke now yeah now he's like we're just gonna run with it we're just gonna know that he wasn't going anywhere so why those first three games were you just like holy like what was your best you played right after the season. One game. One game and you scored, right? Burn off that ELC one year. Yeah, right off the bat.
Starting point is 00:21:49 A little closer to the UFA. I don't want to put you on the spot, but is that something that the team kind of dangles for an incentive for you to maybe leave school earlier? For sure, yeah, definitely. I still think I would end up leaving even if they didn't do that. But it kind of screwed me at the end because I had no rights last summer at the end when I was trying to sign.
Starting point is 00:22:11 So I was kind of just stuck there because I couldn't go to arbitration or I couldn't get an offer sheet. So it's pretty much. Oh, they ended up screwing you then. Yeah, I mean, I still got a great contract. I'll never. You think? Yeah. Oh, by the way, our round is I'll never, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, by the way, your round is up.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Actually, you know what though? It's, you have an amazing contract. You're set for life. I'm so happy for you, but dude, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:34 You see like two more years, you're like, I could have got fucking way more. It's nuts how quickly it's gone up, which I love seeing. You guys, I mean, I love seeing people get paid.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I love it. Everyone's like, that guy's overpaid. No one's overpaid. No one's overpaid. No one's overpaid, dude. That's the thing. We see it with the NBA, Curry making 40 million. And all these people are like, oh, teachers should make money.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Shut up. My father's a fireman. Trust me. It has fucking nothing to do with professional athletics. It's a private industry. The contract is that the players have to get paid X amount of fucking dollars out of this thing. They're going to make the money, and that's how it works. And owners make bank.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Exactly. It's not taxpayer money. If you don't want to participate, then don't buy tickets. Don't buy the thing. Nobody's taking any money out of people's pockets. I can't stand it. We're very pro-fucking NHL. As you can see by the guy on the couch here, we're pro overpayment
Starting point is 00:23:25 on this podcast. It's what we're into. The market is what it is. Guys, the best players are going to make the most money. As we saw, Conor McDavid just signed for a little over $12 million. How nasty is he? I know it's Calgary, I haven't seen, but... I remember it was my first practice
Starting point is 00:23:41 at World Cup, and I'm like, holy shit. This guy is good. It's different shit. And then I played one game with him, and we had a pregame skate, and we were doing a forecheck, backcheck, breakout kind of thing. And, you know, I throw the puck in first. I'm like, I need to go chase it first because I dumped it in.
Starting point is 00:24:00 And Connor just comes out of the blue like 30 steps in front of me just flying and it's a pre-game skate and i'm like and i'm like oh my god this is ridiculous and cobwebs off i i'm like jesus and he was he's honestly he's a fun player to play with he's smart and uh just a great guy too which makes it even better he's uh he was a great guy for our team and uh that was fun huh that that that, it sucks about the Olympics. I think both you guys would be on Team USA. That's what really, I'm sure, bums you guys out. Yeah, it still could happen, I think.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Yeah, I hope so, dude. I don't know, though, man. Either way, dude, even if you don't make it to break, oh, the break, dude. You can go anywhere. You can go anywhere you want for 10 days. Yellowstone Club. You think it can still happen?
Starting point is 00:24:46 The only thing, they announced the All-Star game. I know. I think that obviously could be a threat, though, too, to make it. But I just hope, for your guys' sake, that it gets to go down. South Korea is beautiful in February. I might be the trainer. I'll put in a good word. I'm a soul man.
Starting point is 00:25:03 All right, so What did we go into We went to Oh I went here Where was Rookie Parties And what'd you Did you guys get pounded on the bill No we just had a max Max five grand
Starting point is 00:25:16 Me too Both teams That must be a new thing I think it's I think it's starting to Become a bigger trend there There were like the 18-20k stories And you're like No but it's starting to become a bigger trend there. There were like the 18, 20K stories and you're like, dude. No, but it's crazy because if a kid, a young kid gets called up,
Starting point is 00:25:32 I remember I think a kid got called up and we were like, did we put him through a rookie party? He just got called up. Yeah, like is he getting one game? Let's look at his hockey DB. Imagine if we charge him. Well, the only good thing is If you ever get I always knew that if you paid one once
Starting point is 00:25:51 You didn't have to pay it again But in terms of that kid got one game You're like we can't charge him Unless the GM tells you this kid's a stud He's going to be up here for you My rookie party I remember it was in San Jose Tough No Rookie party, I remember it was in San Jose. Tough place.
Starting point is 00:26:05 No, so listen. Which year are my ones? It didn't go the way it was supposed to be planned, and McDonough's like, our captain, he's like, fuck it, I'll just eat this one, and we'll just plan a different one. I love him now. Yeah. I love that guy.
Starting point is 00:26:19 That's awesome. And so we did that, and then it ended up being in Wash because we were there for a bunch of days at the end of the season. And it ended up being a blast. But then the next year, I was one year too late, McElrath and Lindbergh, their rookie party was in Miami on New Year's Eve at Live at the Weekend in Kygo concert. No, no.
Starting point is 00:26:42 That is an all-time rookie party right there. That's the best one I've ever heard, dude. I was in like St. Louis, I think, or something like that. It was unreal. So you got to be
Starting point is 00:26:53 a part of it at least and you weren't the rookie paying. Johnny, so I got to ask. Yeezys on a horse. That's probably the coolest picture I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:27:02 What were you thinking? He's wearing Yeezys out all day. He's like, I'll get on the fucking horse. I don't care. No, yeah. I was supposed to go the next day to get a pair of cowboy boots, and we didn't end up going, and I woke up the next morning.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I just bought two pairs of knockoff Yeezys, if it makes you feel better. $10.99. Dude, you got the young Jeezy's. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. I like it. Wait, but you can't tell the difference with the naked eye?
Starting point is 00:27:31 No way. Yeah, you get up close and personal. Well, yeah, when you get up close. Girl, I'm going to ask you. These things are fake. I'm out. I'm just hoping to get to that point, though. If I get to that point, it's a win.
Starting point is 00:27:40 If I get them back, if I get them back, that's just a win. You got some boots for him. Look at those things. Look at those shit kickers. I should have brought these out there. That's what you wore in Nashville? Oh, Nashville, man. Talk about a place to play, huh?
Starting point is 00:27:53 Yeah. I love seeing that. Like, that was fucking awesome. Yeah, I mean, it's... They got some... Sick. That Broadway is awesome. Best place for a...
Starting point is 00:28:01 Even if, like, you're not even, like, looking to go out, it's just cool to walk around there. I know. The area's awesome. We have for a read. Even if you're not even looking to go out, it's just cool to walk around there. I know. The area is awesome. We have a guy on our team. JT Miller has a guy's trip there every summer. Really? So I always get him and the guy from Silicon Valley confused.
Starting point is 00:28:16 JT Miller, can we get the retell the deer story on his place, the tattoo of the deer? I know people definitely might have not heard the first time he told us. He's a big, big hunter. And no one knows if he's actually killed a deer or not. But he hunts all the time.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And I remember Jens, we were eating, I think, in Pittsburgh at the Capitol Grill. And there was a deer hanging from the wall. And Jens is looking at it funny. Everyone's like, what's he doing? He's like, I'm just seeing if this deer has a tattoo of JT on him
Starting point is 00:28:49 because Millsy has a deer tattoo on the inside of his arm. It was unbelievable. You know, the whole team started dying. But, no, you'll love this. So when he was in Hartford, he built off the side of the rink in the parking lot like a tree stand, and he would just go hunt. He was in the AHL, and he was hunting post-practice. No, pre-practice.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I remember he was telling me the story. Our assistant GM goes out there looking for Millsy, and he's out of the tree stand hunting. They're like, Millsy, come down here. We're going to go to the 2-1-2 break. Got him. Oh, no, you didn't. You missed him.
Starting point is 00:29:27 You still don't have a kill. Johnny, just going back to Calgary, you guys, the organization made some moves in the offseason, brought in Mike Smith for goaltender, traded for Travis Hamannik from the Islanders. Mike Smith, good deal right there. Yeah, you've made the playoffs two out of your three years. What's your feelings on the organization going forward? I mean, are things looking better for Calvary? Not that they've been bad, but, I mean, are they a team on the rise, you think?
Starting point is 00:29:52 You've got a pretty solid team. That little bird is back. Yeah, yeah. I'm really looking forward to next season. I think, like you said, there's a couple big pickups, a couple big signings. Our defense, they've got to be some of the top D. Top four can kind of play with anyone, I would say. Mike
Starting point is 00:30:10 Smith, I'm just looking forward to playing three on three with that guy. He's probably going to get you a few helpers this year. That guy goes out and throws sauce passes and toe drags and stuff. Johnny just finds a way to get eight breakaways. Him and Grabner must lead the league in breakaways every year.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Yeah, but Goudreau buries most of his. If Grabner actually scored, he gets. Dude, Grabner's an amazing player. By the way, you see him jumping out of the pool on his Instagram? Yeah, that's kind of ridiculous. But if he could score 10% of his breakaways, he's getting 35. He probably gets 30 a year. No, no, like 300 a year, actually.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I'll change it. Every game he gets two, for fuck's sakes. But he buries most of his, I would say. Yeah. All right. So, yeah, going back to the playoffs. So two times you've been in the playoffs, correct? And you've been eliminated by the Ducks twice so far.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Yeah. What kind of feeling did the, you know, you guys were swept this year? I thought you just played them pretty tough. I mean, Anaheim's a tough team. They got to the conference finals. Yeah. What kind of feeling did the, you know, you guys were swept this year? I thought you just played them pretty tough. I mean, Anaheim's a tough team that gets to the conference finals. Yeah. You know, what kind of taste
Starting point is 00:31:10 did this season leave in your mouth? Is it bitter or is it like, all right, we made some strides, we got the playoffs, people didn't expect us to, you know. I think my first year
Starting point is 00:31:19 in the playoffs was a little less deserving to get in there and then we played Vancouver and ended up beating them. Well, you tore the shit out of it, by the way. You have nine points in 11 games, correct? Not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:31:30 But, yeah, and then this year, this season, it's kind of bitter taste. I think we could have easily won maybe a game or two, a game in Anaheim at least, and then we were up, I think, 4-1, 5-1. That was the game. I bet on you guys. I wanted you guys dead. Game three, and then they were up i think four one five one that was the game in game three guys i wanted you guys dead in game three and then they came back and beat us in overtime and i was like well
Starting point is 00:31:51 it's gonna be tough to come back after losing four one in game three and it was difficult but uh yeah like you said i think it was a good season for us uh you know new coaching staff um you know a lot of new faces in our locker room. I'm really looking forward to next season. I want to ask about one of your teammates this past year. Kind of a bit of a menace out there, Matthew Kachuk. Not necessarily a local guy. Actually, he's like your 17th cousin, right? Half the fucking team.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Half the league seems like it's related to the Hayes, Fitzgerald, Kachuk clan. Talk about what he did and how much of a menace he seems to be on the ice. I mean, he's a hell of a player, but he really seems to have— He doesn't give a shit, huh? No, he really doesn't. I love that. It's pretty cool, yeah. Look at his dad.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I know. Walt. You know, funny thing, Walt, we were with him at dinner, and he's just—Matthew will kind of just bring up something random, and Mr. Kachuk will just be like, Matthew, you have 20 games. Shut up. You're a rookie. Keep your mouth shut.
Starting point is 00:32:52 That's old school. Imagine how old school he was. And I'm like, I'm nervous to talk in front of him right now. But, no, he's a great player. He's a lot of fun. He's a great player in our locker room. Good teammate. And, yeah, he definitely likes to stir the pot a little bit on the ice,
Starting point is 00:33:08 which is great. We need a guy like that. Yeah, you need like a Moshon type guy who's also talented. I mean, he's very talented too, you know. You know who's an unreal player that nobody knows about is Backlund, I think. Oh, Bax, yeah. That guy, man, is so underrated, I think. Nobody talks about him, but a solid second-line center.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Yeah, for sure. I think they were probably our top line this year, that Kachuk, Froelich, and Backlund. Backs and Froelichs always give Chucky a hard time. They've never been in so many scrums before in their life at the start of this season. He's like, please stop. One of those guys who goes to the bar
Starting point is 00:33:42 and drags all his buddies into a fucking scrap. So do you know the answer to the long, long question of why Berkey doesn't tie his tie? Yeah, I think I can answer it. Really? Yeah. What do we got? All right. So we asked him, I think it was this summer sometime.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And the only reason why he wears it like that is it pisses people off. That's so Berkey. That's what I should have guessed. That's so Berkey. I figured most people would guess that But yeah He was telling me He's like
Starting point is 00:34:07 It just makes people mad So I'm going to do it Even more now And I said yeah I guess it's fair enough Yeah he played down In Providence Yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:34:15 Actually went to Harvard Law School too If I'm not mistaken Oh HBS Oh yeah It's not a big deal HLS Going back
Starting point is 00:34:22 I remember You and your brother Going to the old garden wearing Winnipeg Jets number seven. Matt, who's a good old man, man. Dude, he would have them sign it like eight times. He's like, Keith, I already signed it. Kevin's got like a culotta.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Doesn't make him a bad guy. I might have a few Kachuk. I might have an autographed Kachuk pot in this house somewhere. Let's switch up a little, guy. Big, huge fight next month. Dude, what do you think? McGregor, Mayweather, what's your take, man? What do you got?
Starting point is 00:34:49 You a boxing fan, an MMA fan, a little bit of both? What? I mean, I guess a little bit of both, but McGregor's an animal, and he's a riot. He's a full-blown comedian. Saying, why do you carry a book bag? You can't even read. His walk after he wins, the one that Pat McAfee does after his punts, that's just top-notch stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Like Vince McMahon doing the strategy. That's top-notch stuff. But, I mean, it's common sense. If it's MMA, McGregor's going to win. I don't think McGregor has a chance against Mayweather. He's the best. What about John? Sorry, what about John? He just doesn't defend so well. I think McGregor's going to win. I don't think McGregor has a chance against Mayweather. He's the best. What about John? He just does what he thinks.
Starting point is 00:35:28 McGregor's going to win. Do you? He's like, I'm an underdog too. DMs him on Instagram. He's like, no one thought I'd be in the show. You can beat him. I'm kind of hoping he does too. I'm a fan of him. I want McGregor to win.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I'm going to bet him because I refuse McGregor to win. I do. For sure. I'm going to bet him because I refuse. I'll bet it knowing that the money's gone. Not a big deal. If he ever were to win, be like, I bet against. Are you throwing money away on Oliver Diggs? I already bet him.
Starting point is 00:35:59 People are throwing you money. It's like, no, I'm going to make a bet. I feel like it's good to bet it now because I think it might get worse off. The odds are going to make a bet I feel like it's good To bet it now Because I think It might get worse The odds are going to go down Because Right And because the odds Are going to go down Because very few people
Starting point is 00:36:10 Are going to risk 800 or 600 To make $100 On Floyd Where you can put 100 to make Fucking a nickel On Connor
Starting point is 00:36:17 It's a no brainer So once all those Irish turkeys Show up in Vegas They're going to pound it The line might go down I took fucking McGregor 20 to 1 In a decision because, I mean, let's face it. They went 12 rounds?
Starting point is 00:36:29 Exactly. Mayweather is not an offensive fighter. And I love listening to millennials, man. I know. Ask a millennial. The greatest ever. I'm a millennial, apparently. These kids, they never even saw a fucking Tyson fight.
Starting point is 00:36:38 They probably never watched an old Ali fight. Yeah, Mayweather's 49 and over. He fought in probably the least fucking prevalent boxing. I mean, the era of boxing has been great. There have been a lot of great boxes. Exactly, which means that it's going to go the distance, I think. I think that he's going to evade him. McGregor's going to come at him.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I think it's going to go the distance, and fuck me, anything can happen. You sound like, what's the guy that does the ringside announcing? That does the judging. What's his name? Oh, let him in. Let him in. Let him in. I don't like him right now. He's looking good. He's got the ringside announcing. That does the judging. What's his name? We have gone the distance. Let him in. Let him in. Let him in.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I don't like that right now. He's looking good. He's got the shamrock tattoo. He's got a little sweat coming down the brow. He might come at him, Jimmy. We've gone the distance here. I mean, I just think that
Starting point is 00:37:14 if anything, someone's getting knocked out. Someone's like, and it'll probably be McGregor just trying to knock him out and he'll just catch one on the butt. Yeah, but I mean, I heard a vicious rumor, though.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Let's hear it. That Hazy said 99's too expensive for the HD, so he's getting the standard differential for 86 bucks, dude. Yeah, that's so painful. Please, you know he's going to be on Reddit getting the... So, Mayweather Pacquiao, worst fight ever. Yeah, yeah. Worst fight ever.
Starting point is 00:37:41 My buddies from college are over in my apartment, and I'm like, yeah, hey, we'll watch it at my place and then we'll go to bed. Yeah. And the kid rents it. And it's like two minutes before the fight. And it's like, nowadays, you get text messages like, did you confirm this? Can you confirm you bought this? And it says standard definition.
Starting point is 00:38:02 And I'm like, oh, my God. What if someone ever walked in and I was watching standard definition on TV? You got to rebuy it. I had to rebuy it for HD. That's your change drawer anyways, dude. That's when you're like, thanks, bro. So 20 to 1 for McGregor to win by decision. I know I'm not saying it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:38:24 But interesting bet. 25-1 for a draw. No way. Dude, boxing is just corrupt as fuck, dude. It wouldn't shock me one bit if it's a draw and then they've got to do it again. They're going to do it again. Either way, maybe. There's going to be three fights. There's going to be three fights, like Mickey Ward
Starting point is 00:38:40 versus Arturo Gatti. Dude, I was at the second one. Head body, head body. Unbelievable. Dude, I'll tell you second one. Head body, head body. Dude, I'll tell you. Have you ever been to a fight in Vegas? No. Have you ever? I have not. That would be pretty sick.
Starting point is 00:38:50 As long as Suge Knight and Tupac are out there, it's usually a fucking pretty good time. But there's nothing like it, man. The atmosphere in the city, the whole vibe, the buildup. I've been to a couple fights there. It's a fucking dynamite time. It's just interesting. You've got a guy who's not a boxer fighting a guy who is a boxer on the boxing rules. And I think it's great.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I think he's going to catch one on the button. I think he's going to catch one, dude. I don't know. I think McGregor's going to go for it and just go down. And it's going to be a rematch. Let's see what happens, man. Speaking of Vegas, dude, Lady Bing, congratulations. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah, thanks. What would you like better, Hobie or Lady? Hobie. I don't know. Both the same. Hobie's Yeah, thanks. What would you like better, Hobie or Lady? Hobie. I don't know. Both the same. Hobie's sick, man. Hey, dude, Adam Oates won the fucking Lady Bing, so don't let anybody touch that shit. No, Lady's sick, especially if you're fucking his size.
Starting point is 00:39:35 No, it was a lot of fun. I mean, the Hobie, I got to win it and went back to school and got to celebrate with my teammates after that. It was really, really awesome. And then Lady Bing, I mean, it was really, really cool to win that. But I'm kind of only with one teammate there. And, I mean, still in Vegas, which is a great time. But it doesn't suck. Golden Knights.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Yeah, just two different kind of things to win. And I had kind of different takes on it. But I think I might want to go with the Holbees because, you know, I'm celebrating with my teammates and we got to go back to BC after my first game in Vancouver after I won. They were celebrating with me about that too, which was pretty cool. Oh, because of your goal. Yeah, because of my goal too.
Starting point is 00:40:16 And then I won the Holby too, so they were all pumped up for me. Can I tell the check story? The what? The check in your pocket. Yeah, you have to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You kind of have to now. My mom, oh, jeez, she was not happy about this this guy comes back little manny ramirez this guy comes
Starting point is 00:40:30 back and he's we're all at ma's only the seniors yorkie because underclassmen are not allowed there and uh he walks into the frank walks into the into the uh the bar and with my buddy Colin Scaff and we're just chilling there drinking and John's like, oh shit, I gotta go put this check in the bank. And we're like, oh, okay. Thinking $500 check or something, right? The guy has his signing
Starting point is 00:40:56 bonus check in his pocket at 11pm. Thinks he can stick it in the teller. Place is closed. Hey, I have the check for $300,000. Can I just put this into the machine? Into the machine. I'm going to take $100,000 back to the cash place.
Starting point is 00:41:10 And we're like, oh, I haven't signed yet. I've never seen money like that. And I'm like, what the hell is going on? How much was it? $92,000. Yeah, $92,000. Like wrinkled up? Yeah, like wet.
Starting point is 00:41:23 He used it as a coat. How was that not mailed to you? How did you have that check? I was in Calgary. I got to stay for like three days after the one game because I got to go to the end-of-the-year team party. And I got to go to – What a day that was.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Yeah, it was awesome. I was there for two, three nights. But then, yeah, so I wasn't able to check the cash that night. But he made sure he could take me the next day and we went right in the yeah we're going out tonight too my mom's like i need new tank top she's like what are you doing you put on your debit card like oh yeah so but he made sure he made sure that i knew where the bank was and he came with me so let me hold that i was johnny's guardian at BC.
Starting point is 00:42:08 His mom would ask me to make sure he's doing this and this and this. He's like, Mom, I know he comes off as this gentleman. You don't understand what he's really like. I need to take care of him. Does the B-U-B-C shit ever come up on the ice, or is that just kind of like, eh, whatever? I mean, there's so much other shit to talk about, like talk shit about.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Never on the ice, but those games were awesome. Those are unbelievable. Those are some of my most memorable games, like home and home, Friday, Saturday night. Your crowd stinks, dude. You know it. But now the new BU arena is a little too big. It's not as loud.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Like Walter Brown was great. I still think Gannis is an amazing rink, but it's like sometimes you just want it as loud as possible. But, no, I remember my brother's, like, sophomore year, they were, like, known as the library, the BC fans. But now, like, but they – Before I was there. They completely turned it around, probably because of this guy. But, like, no, I remember, like, those Notre Dame games.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Notre Dame games. It was insane. Like, best i remember like those notre dame games it was insane like best crowds i've seen like really and it was loud yeah and like it was like to the point where like yorkie's writing in the what was like the eagle nest the paper and like thanking the fans like he was shocked at how many people were there obviously to entice him to keep coming but like it was insane my four years that we had great fans j. Jerry York gives a letter in and the paper's like, we're just going to proofread. He's like, no, no, I checked the grammar. It's perfect.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Kev, obviously playing New York City, Manhattan, the fucking center of the universe, all that. What's your favorite part of playing in Manhattan and your least favorite part of playing in Manhattan? The least favorite part is just the fans. They're the best fans. But at the same time, if you're not playing well, they can – Up your ass. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Dude, and they give you quick, man. Oh, yeah. No, we really do. The fans in New York are unbelievable. They're diehard. They live and die through the Rangers, the Mets, the Yanks, the Giants. And then once one team loses, they just come on to the other. And it was nice.
Starting point is 00:44:07 My first year, everyone was great. And then my second year was not so good. It was just you nonstop. You couldn't go all out. You heard from them. So they come up right up to you in a bar and be like, you fucking suck. I mean, yeah. Not indirectly, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Well, it's New York. They know. But it's the greatest place to play in the world. You ask anyone else in the NHL, where would you want to play? A lot of people are saying New York City. I asked Eichel this. I don't know if you heard it. What is the best part about MSG?
Starting point is 00:44:39 I don't know if you'll get it. I got my best part and he agreed. Playing there as a away team? You won't get it. The warm-up music, dude oh yeah yeah he's bumping in that ring it's always just feels alive it's the greatest rink like it's so much history in it not to like get like sentimental but like it really like the stuff you just see on the walls walking around, the stories you hear, it's insane. But the best part, probably just living in the city, the restaurants. Yeah, yeah. Every night, dude.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Sick meals. I've been there for three years. My first two years, I didn't even own silverware. Shocker. I went out to dinner every single night. You find your spots that you're used to. The manager hooks you up and stuff. You live right on Manhattan.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Yeah. This year, I'm actually living with VC and Brady Shea in a three-floor penthouse. Oh, no shit. How are you? Who's driving a practice? Grinnelli's living in the same place. It's going to be amazing. We're the three best buddies and the three younger guys on the team.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Millsy lives outside the city. But, yeah, going out to dinner and when the team is winning, everyone loves you. Yeah. We're obviously hoping to get Jimmy on sometime. You look pretty instrumental in getting him to New York, would you say? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I have no one. My aunt is married to his uncle.
Starting point is 00:46:05 My wife is talking to Julianne on Facebook right now. She told me you were coming over. I think she said to say hello, by the way. Yeah, I mean, I think I kind of persuaded him a bit. I mean, I wasn't like technically allowed to. Tampa. Yeah, exactly. I didn't talk to him until August 16th.
Starting point is 00:46:23 But, no, I mean, I was playing all New York music in the gym the whole summer. Do you ever hear of Frank Sinatra, Jimmy? Let me play it to you. Just like little stuff and just all over about, hey, we can live together, which he screwed me on. Thanks, bro. Yeah, but no, I mean, he definitely doesn't have any regrets, I don't think. He had a sick year.
Starting point is 00:46:45 He loves the city. Big Harvard connection there. Big BZ connection there. Funny, man. I'll show my age again. I actually watched his dad in high school. I went to the same high school as Jim. His dad was nasty.
Starting point is 00:46:55 His dad played with one of our coaches. Scott Arnell. Okay, yeah. That's Commie's boy. Jimmy played out in, well, he was drafted by the Blues. Like, well, Big Jim, the father. He got a couple cups of coffee and then out in Phoenix. But I'll tell you, man, he had some fucking unbelievable hands.
Starting point is 00:47:13 But I'm just, again, showing my age. Same question to you, Johnny. Favorite part of playing in Calgary and probably your least favorite part of playing there? Yeah, I think probably favorite is I think the fans are pretty, pretty passionate. I think, yeah, the Sea of Red playing there in playoffs. Yeah, Red Mile is pretty crazy too. But, yeah, it's a lot of fun playing in front of them. They're pretty passionate fans.
Starting point is 00:47:38 But the least favorite, probably be, you know, I feel like I get recognized way, way too much sometimes. It's kind of, it's kind of hard. It's hard sometimes. Yeah. I mean, that's what the,
Starting point is 00:47:51 that's what you get for playing in the Canadian market. But, I mean, I love it at times too, but just sometimes, you know, at dinner,
Starting point is 00:47:57 you know, it's like, you know, I just want to go out and have some dinner. Yeah, you can't go out, man,
Starting point is 00:48:01 really, and have a normal day. It's difficult. Like, I'm sure Kevin has a lot more privacy in New York. If you get recognized in New York, it's kind of like a big deal. It doesn't. You can go to places and know that you're not going to.
Starting point is 00:48:15 You go there on purpose not to get recognized, but at the same time, you can go to places, a lot of places, knowing they're going to know who you are. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and obviously you appreciate it, but there is a line. You're out, you're having dinner, and, you know, you're putting a fork in your mouth and someone's sticking a pen in your face. I mean, a lot of people don't have that.
Starting point is 00:48:35 And nowadays, like, yeah, man, I want to go and have a beer after the game. You know, it's sometimes, you know. Exactly, and then all of a sudden you have one beer at dinner, and people see it, and they're like, oh, this guy's out drinking night before a game. Yeah. Dude, it's so painful, that shit. Yeah, I mean, it's difficult sometimes. But, I mean, don't get me wrong. I mean, I love, you know, kids coming up saying hello to me.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Kids, you know, ask for autographs and stuff and taking pictures of people. But, you know, sometimes it gets, you know, it gets a little too much sometimes. Yeah, especially with social media pitches and, you know, people all fucking Snapchatting you when you're not paying attention and stuff. Yeah, I mean, you do have to be guarded against that stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:10 I guess a fine line. Listen to me. I fucking played. I'm like, whoa, wait, wait. Yeah, we were in Nashville. Everyone was all over us. So do we have all right Hamiltons? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Hey, wait, wait. Hilarious, hilarious story of the Sea of Red. We're playing in Calgary, and Emerson Edom is on our team. He was just there for a year. He might have got traded at the deadline. I'm not sure. And he's an unbelievable kid, and he's kind of a space shot. He's like super California, like chill.
Starting point is 00:49:41 And Yandel tells him on the bench that when you buy a house in Calgary, the city of Calgary gives you a red and white jersey to buy the house, and that's why it's the sea of red. And after the game, he's like, hazy, dude. You hear this hype thing about what the Flames do? You buy a house, they ask you if you want red or white jerseys, and everyone chooses red to make the sea of red. I'm like, dude, Yandel has had to have told you this.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Keith also, I mean, I don't know how this will translate to a podcast, but on the seventh hole at Wollaston where we play golf, there's a rock there, right? A random rock right near the tee, dude. Everyone sits on it. No big deal. Sometimes they put flowers around it. So one of our good buddies, Ned Haven, I've mentioned him on here before.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Natty Noodle. He sits down one time. Actually, like right when he joined, when Ned joined, me, him, and Keith are out there, and he sits down on the rock, and Keith's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Dude, get up. He's like, whoa, what the fuck? He jumps up. He's like, what?
Starting point is 00:50:39 He's like, Keith's like, are you fucking crazy? Now, mind you, at Wollaston Golf Club, our logo is an Indian named Squanto. It ain't PC. That's Squanto. It ain't PC. That's our club. It ain't changing. So it's this guy, Squanto. So Keith goes, whoa, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:50:50 Ned's like, whoa, what? That's Squanto's grave. Dude, I'm like, dude, I'm trying to like, I'm trying to, Ned's like, holy shit, really?
Starting point is 00:50:58 He's like, yeah, what the fuck? That's Keith Yandel, dude. Like, this kid is nonstop. Maybe he just saw Poltergeist. I don't know. That's, I don't know what Poltergeiststop. Maybe he just saw Poltergeist. I don't know. I don't know what Poltergeist is.
Starting point is 00:51:08 So let's go to our house. We've kept these guys, dude. We've kept you guys long enough. I thank you so much. But we got some questions. All right, gentlemen. Captain Turo wants to know, in celebration of your week off, what is your craziest July 4th memory? All right, Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:51:21 I'll go first because mine came quick. I was 18. I know this is because mine came quick. I was 18. I know this is nothing to do with hockey. My family, up in the suburbs of Boston, had a big cookout every year. And my aunt used to let me drink underage. And I got, you know, waffled one day. And I dove off the diving board in the pool. And I come up.
Starting point is 00:51:37 My uncle's like, hey, what's up with your face? I'm like, what? He goes, you got blood gushing down your face. And I dove. I didn't dive, like, head first. I kind of, like, went, like, at an angle. So, like, I grazed goes, you got blood gushing down your face. I didn't dive head first. I kind of went at an angle. So I grazed off the bottom of the pool. Nothing worse, dude, when your feet get cut.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Straight up break the whole thing. So then I've gotten drunk diving jokes for the last fucking 30 years from my family. I'll take that. You're up. I'll take that. Mine? Man, I ripped up Vegas on July 4th one time, buying bottles, pouring them on myself. That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:11 That was a crazy weekend. Other than that, it's just fireworks and beers, dude. I got nothing crazy. The one Vegas trip was a gong show. So for our July 4th, the last three years, John has yet to show up. He says he's coming, but he doesn't. Is this the Gowin? No, no. That's before. No, no. What do you mean? yet to show up. He says he's coming, but he doesn't. Is this the Gowling?
Starting point is 00:52:27 No, that's before. No, no. What are you talking about? Yeah. No, no, no. It's Cape Cod. I rent the house in Cape Cod. Hannafin, I heard, was with you this year.
Starting point is 00:52:36 And I literally invite everyone. I say, hey, we have seven beds, seven or eight beds. You can come. Beds are already claimed. I don't care where you sleep. You can sleep on the floor, outside, backyard. Bring a blow-up. Hammock, yeah, bring a blow-up.
Starting point is 00:52:49 A doll. There was like seven blow-ups this year. And we play a par three course on July 2nd. Harney? I don't know. It's like... In Falmouth? It's in Hyannis. It's like a bootleg one.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Yeah, yeah. And they all know we're coming. I'm not joking. It's like... In Fauna? It's in Hyannis. It's like a bootleg one. Yeah, yeah. And they all know we're coming. I'm not joking. We played... My second year, I played the whole 18 holes, no shoes, no shirt, with civilians there. And they were rattled that we were all on the course, just no shoes, no shirt. Bumping music.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Bumping music, yeah. And then July 3rd, I rent the party bus for everyone that's there. And we go to Beachcomber And stay there For about 7 hours This is the time Beachcomber And then party bus
Starting point is 00:53:30 Back to my house I think The guy The party bus driver Stays and parties with us And then heads back to Salty And then Imagine him driving
Starting point is 00:53:39 That bus home Just a crossed up Route 3 And every night We end up like At a bar and stuff And it's It's the last 3 years It's Everyone like walks away Like this is the most Just a crushed up route through. And every night we end up at a bar and stuff. And it's the last three years.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Everyone walks away. It's literally the most fun I have. Can I come next year? I'm going to weasel my way in. He's going to look to the back of the party bus and just see me. Every year. It's my most. You don't come? No.
Starting point is 00:53:59 To this? To be honest, I wish. All of our college friends. Wow. Jersey, dude. Well, my story comes from my family. It's like a tradition. I got to get out of it one of these times.
Starting point is 00:54:12 It's tough to break. I go up to Vermont every Fourth of July for the past, like, I don't even know, and see some family up there. But my story is me and my dad bought fireworks one year, and we were uh getting ready to shoot them off and we're shooting them off shooting them off and one of the big ones are getting ready to go off and tips over and there's a lake right in front of us and all the all of my family's out there watching at the end of the lake and then three fireworks go flying right at
Starting point is 00:54:43 little kids skipping it skipping right off the water coming by people's heads and stuff and my dad gets so scared he thinks it's coming at us he jumps down this hill into like the ditch like cuts a scoop out of his leg and uh you know they're going at our family and uh yeah that's that's mine but i gotta say i have my USA hockey shirt on. I can't get in the water. Yeah, so... I'll wear this to see Jerry York. What part of Vermont? Yeah, Newport, Derby. It's like one side of the street's Canada,
Starting point is 00:55:13 one side of the street's... Oh, way, way up. Way, way up. Johnny LeClerc. Yeah, yeah. All the way up there. Johnny LeClerc. Yeah, so...
Starting point is 00:55:20 But I think I'm going to come next year. I'll come if Johnny comes. I'll hold you to it. Sign a contract. They're going to drive us. Sign Johnny comes. I'll hold you to a sign of contract. He'll drive us. Sign of contract. I'll tell you, I managed to find the only black bar, all black bar, on Martha's Vineyard this year. I got down.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Jamaicans? Jamaicans? Jamaicans. Yeah, yeah, Jamaicans. I got down. All right, so Jesse Garcia asks. Girl? Looks like a guy.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Looks like a guy. So let's go with Guy, Jesse Garcia asks, do NH a guy. Let's go with Guy Jesse Garcia asks, do NHL teams do court? If so, what's the biggest fine you've ever witnessed? No, we don't hold court, but fines are missing the bus, late to the plane,
Starting point is 00:55:58 missing team meeting. The best fines are when you fall in warm-ups. Minimum 100 on the board. First shift. First game. If you're Corey Potter, my boy Potsy, what's up? If you step on Taylor Hall's face, that's like 10K
Starting point is 00:56:09 because then we all have to wear helmets the rest of the year in warm-ups. Thanks a lot. Nothing good in the NHL without no bucket. New York Ranger rule. No, you have to wear a bucket. Same with Calgary. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:18 That's because Halsey. That's because of Potsy stepping on him. Yeah, fucking A. I remember someone told me this story. George LaRock was with the Rangers and he didn't wear wear – someone told me you have to wear a bucket. And he's like, yeah, okay. Went on the ice. And Glenn Sather came down from up top onto the bench, gave him his helmet.
Starting point is 00:56:35 I don't think George LaRock played for the Rangers. I think he did. Did he really? Pretty sure it was him. It wasn't him. It was someone else, obviously. I feel like – Keith told me when he got to the Rangers. Keith's like, yeah, yeah. Walking off the warm-ups. I just walked on the ice. I feel like Keith told me when he got to the Rangers. Keith's like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Walking off the warm-ups. I just walked on the ice. They're like, hey, you got to put on one. He's like, yeah, no, I'm all set, dude. I got no bucket. They're like, no. He's like, what? Trade me right fucking now.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Any more or are we good? Yeah, we got one more. Derek G. asks, what are the best jerseys of all time? All right, Hamilton. Chicago Blackhawks. Rangers. Rangers, blue jerseys. Don't be the guy who makes the team and then says I have the best jersey, Hamilton. Chicago Blackhawks. Rangers. Rangers, blue jerseys. Don't be the guy who makes the team and then says,
Starting point is 00:57:07 I have the best jersey, man. Those aren't the best jerseys. Red, white, and blue. They're good. I love the Blackhawks. They are classic. And I'm not just saying it because Johnny's here. I didn't even notice you.
Starting point is 00:57:19 You're the one who's got the Atlanta Flame jersey on because Johnny Hockey gave it to you. I just realized that. It's late at night. Yeah, showing props. No, honestly, I don't know if, like, because my old man was a fireman back in the day or whatever, but I always loved, like, fire logos or whatever. I loved the Atlanta Flames back in the day.
Starting point is 00:57:35 I wish Calgary would go back to that. I don't like the black, but I'm a big Blackhawks number one, Calgary. He told Eichel last week he loved the Saners. Come on, guy. Why are you doing that? Why are you doing me dirty? Why are you doing me dirty? Why are you doing me dirty?
Starting point is 00:57:49 Dude, man, we can't thank you guys enough, dude. This is great for us. I think that both you guys are young stars in the league, but what I like about you, especially Kevin, we've got to know each other over the years, is that you've got some old school in you. And some of the new age NHL stuff drives me a little crazy. I don't know shit, but the new age kids don't do anything. They don't hang out or have fun.
Starting point is 00:58:10 So you guys are old school and two great players. So thank you so much for joining us. Yeah, make hockey fun again. And you guys do a great job of it. We were talking to Jack last week. Eichel, not a big deal. Is that guy good? He was talking about showing personality
Starting point is 00:58:24 and just not being a state and conservative. You know, the NBA, not a big deal. Is that guy good? He was talking about showing personality and just not being as state and conservative. You know, the NBA, they market their players. Guys can be themselves. We need more of that in hockey. That's what's making chicklets. You know what, too? I was thinking about that point after. You know what was the NBA, and this is kind of out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:58:39 The NBA was fortunate, too, is that when they marketed all those players after the Dream Team and into the 90s China at the same time that all happened was that hip hop culture became like
Starting point is 00:58:51 white suburb kid culture it became such a big thing so they kind of dovetailed together because basketball is part of hip hop and the culture so when all these
Starting point is 00:58:59 white kids kind of glommed on to that culture basketball was part of it so they kind of had that built in chance and hockey doesn't necessarily have that culture of basketball as part of it. So they kind of had that built-in chance. And, you know, hockey doesn't necessarily have that. So I think a lot of kids get into that for one reason.
Starting point is 00:59:11 But hockey's coming, man. We're all about it. We're all about hockey. We're hockey positive here. We want more people to listen, watch, do all that. And guys like this help spread the love. This week's All Right, Hamilton was brought to you by ZipRecruiter.com. Are you hiring?
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Starting point is 01:00:32 I got my vintage only on a big goal, though, is to fire the hand up and then come through. I love that. And, Johnny? I love that in college. I told Johnny, hey, I told Johnny, I told him, no, no, no. He's leaving this part out.
Starting point is 01:00:49 I told him. He does this stupid hand down little... No, I don't do that. Not anymore. He did it. I told him, I said, because my coach, I remember, yelled at me, Mike Cavanaugh yelled at me my sophomore year for doing the Aaron Rodgers
Starting point is 01:01:05 discount double. First goal of BC's season. Like, come on. Discount double check. Double check. And so a couple weeks go by because the season starts in October, and Yorkie's going around the room, what's everyone being for Halloween? And I stand up.
Starting point is 01:01:16 I'm like, hey, I'm being Aaron Rodgers. And Cav was bullshit at me. But, no, I told him, I seen you here. No matter what the score is, 1-0, overtime goal, 8-0. I'm doing the same celebration the whole year. Yeah, like 7-1 UMass. Kevin got the last one. We saw Sully for the third time.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Big goal. All right, boys. Thank you so much. And listen, we won't, you know, people will be listening, the Call Me Up charity classic. I wish they could do this and then go. Yeah. That's Friday night.
Starting point is 01:01:46 I'm sorry, one more additional note. A little bit of a downer, but we were off last week. Just want to send condolences to the family, friends, associates of Dave Semenko, who was a great Edmonton oiler. He was basically the first kind of bodyguard, I guess, in the NHL. He was Wayne Gretzky's bodyguard back in the Edmonton Oilers days. He worked for Edmonton when I was there. Really nice guy. Monster.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Yeah. I can't even imagine punching this guy, let alone getting punched by him. So, I mean, he kind of didn't change the game by any means, but he started the whole protect your best player. Exactly. He kind of almost invented a position almost where you've got to protect the stars, especially someone like fucking Gretzky. Like Kevin did for Johnny at BC. Exactly, with my kid, Johnny. So, yeah, we just want to send our deepest condolences and sympathies to anybody,
Starting point is 01:02:32 the Edmonton family, anybody associated with him. And, guys, really, thanks so much for coming here. I know you're here to have some fun, and we appreciate it. Rip it up next year, fellas. Yeah, thank you. I remember Johnny's having a charity golf tournament July 28th. If anyone wants to bid and play with John, go ahead. Is he going to wear his boots?
Starting point is 01:02:48 His new boots? No. If he's wearing Yeezys all day, that's how you make putts. All right. Peace out, everyone. Thank you very much. See you guys. So, Mikey, I know a lot of people have been asking,
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