Spittin Chiclets - Spittin' Chiclets Episode 397: Featuring Kevin Weekes

Episode Date: July 12, 2022

On Episode 397 of Spittin’ Chiclets the guys are joined by Kevin Weekes. Weekesy joined (46:09) to discuss NHL Free Agency, trade rumors, and tons more. But first, the guys open the show recapping t...he NHL draft and all the noise made by the Canadiens and Blackhawks. The boys also touch on some recent NHL news, including Malkin opting to hit Free Agency. The fellas wrap up with some TV Talk.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/schiclets

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Spittin' Chicklets listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello everybody, welcome to episode 397 of Spittin' Chicklets, presented by Pink Whitney from our friends at New Amsterdam Vodka here in the Barstool Sports Podcast family. What's going on everybody? Free agency is going to be here soon. Lots of signings, lots of trades, whole bunch of shit going on. We're going to get to that shortly, but of course, we like to say hi to the fellas first. We'll go to our producer, Mikey Grinelli first. What's going on, my friend?
Starting point is 00:00:49 Nothing really. Been struggling a bit lately. I have nothing to do in my free time. I need a hobby. I'm such a loser. I don't even, I don't like to watch TV. So, you know, I was thinking of starting instrument lessons or something like that. So I've been
Starting point is 00:01:05 struggling a bit but i'm trying to find a hobby so if you guys have any suggestions i'm open to anything what kind of play golf i was thinking piano ra i used to take piano lessons when i was a kid so i think i got like piano hands i got like the weirdest fucking hands in the world so i was thinking of doing piano there you go little chopsticks going on yeah golf's too expensive what do you think piano lessons cost from someone good 100 bucks an hour well you can just pay the woman in in meatballs remember in uh wedding singer when she just pays adam's adam sandler and meatballs put out your hand i'll give you some meatballs great movie if anyone's never seen it i I don't know. That's the only thing I know about the price of piano lessons. We'll see what happens, Dale.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Paul, Biz Nasty, Biznet, coming to us from the West Coast once again. How are we feeling there, buddy? Boys, I'm licking my wounds. What a weekend. My buddy, Justin York, and his beautiful wife, Jackie, got married in Qualicum Beach, which is on Vancouver Island. It's about two and a half hours north of Victoria. So we all made the drive up.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Some people came over from the mainland. Beautiful ceremony right on their beach, right in front of their place. Probably the most I've ever cried at a wedding. It was very emotional. Wow. Yeah. Could have been the 60 drinks I crushed beforehand that caused that uh but you know this friend group they know how to party so this is the most hurting i've ever been for
Starting point is 00:02:32 for a pod two-day hangover but excited to talk about free agency talk about the draft talk about the matching suits on the coyotes going up looks like they were in the fucking uh groomsman party for crying out loud with those matching suits but uh a great weekend congratulations to my friend and great seeing everybody uh from the west coast that i hang out with how was the best man speech that's always and and the maid of honor speech i'm always into those both unbelievable uh the maid of honor one was yeah she was great she was great yeah a lot of laugh i would say every single speech was 10 out of 10 and it went by and they broke them up perfectly they didn't
Starting point is 00:03:11 drag on too long um as far as the the best man speech it was actually double-headed by my buddy jeff who helps us out with the pod jeff jacobson and uh sk so all in all 10 out of 10 and their their uncle who owns an airplane hangar on the by Qualicum Beach they had shuttles take us over so that's where like the after hours was and that ended up going to about 3 30 in the morning our friend our friend who's a DJ DJ the whole thing yeah buddy it just got completely rowdy no wonder the parents didn't want the after hour situation going on underneath the tent outside of their place on qualico beach so we we pushed the limits and uh like i said we were really licking our loons uh our wounds on sunday our fucking loons jesus christ like uh
Starting point is 00:03:56 oh hey dad can we have the after house at your house he's like is paul bassinet coming yeah nope no i'm not even i'm not even the bad one from our group. We have some crazy animals in the gang. I didn't mean to basically dog women and their speeches for maid of honor. No, you did. No, you did. For the most part, I think even many girls and women out there may agree that for some reason, I don't know, at weddings, the native honor speech can be a little bit painful.
Starting point is 00:04:28 It's a little awkward usually. And usually it's like, remember the time that I braided your hair? It's like, all right, come on. And you were puking and I held it. Remember the time we were scissoring and oops. Oh shit. Sorry. Yeah. Remember how hard. I told you guys, I told you guys at my sister's wedding, one of the, the, what do you call them? Braids of our maids of honor uh bridesmaids bridesmaids grades of honor
Starting point is 00:04:51 guys i know there's gonna be about 26 businessms in this one because my brain is not clicking no but all the girls are named paulina yeah because she only smashes pauls you're an idiot that's my favorite thing is that your sister just loves pauls loves pauls uh this this one got so pickled she ended up getting on the mic four times and my aunt had to finally go hey oh done oh really she got the hook you got yeah yeah i told everybody at the wedding that we we'd ran out of hard liquor so they had to switch over to beer thanks to the one who kept popping on the mic and then she tried walking back up and then once again my aunt come in with the clothes like
Starting point is 00:05:35 nah nah nah it was but hey when somebody gets fucked up and then they end up hitting up the mic too much at the end of the day it's just pure entertainment so it's at their expense but nonetheless a very entertaining wedding uh so moving on to that ra you got to tee up wit because wit had a very uh interesting day on the golf course no pun intended tee up wit of course the last but not least ryan the wit dog whitney i notice a different background behind you i believe you're still local give us the update on what you're doing now and what you did in the weekend. It was a wonderful past week. I mentioned we were over in Nantucket, a lot of family over there. It's just a great time, such a special place. And, and, you know, we rent out the house we have for the whole summer, except for the end of August.
Starting point is 00:06:17 But this year we kept the 4th of July week has never been over there. It was a blast. It was just a really good time. Weather was amazing. It was so fun to be over there and experience that and and that was great and then you know it was exciting for me because um I had mentioned I qualified for the mass am and and the first round was today so um I've been playing pretty good I was talking about how much fun I've been having playing golf and I'll just quickly I'll quickly take you through my day uh right right now and I'll on the weekend we had the qualifying for uh Wollaston Golf Club one of the places I play at the club championships I qualified Saturday uh top eight get into match play and won my match Sunday and started hitting it pretty poor at the end of the Saturday round but like got into match
Starting point is 00:07:00 play and then won my match but didn't play great it was a pillow fight between me and and the kid i played against looks exactly like john rom shout out jack davis i call him rombo um so i was you know i was confident in the past few weeks and then yesterday like holy shit like i'm hitting driver like shit and just like oh whatever though big first round today so i get there today i'm gonna take you through this goddamn round of golf very quick. First hole. Just, just bear with me guys. I hit a drive in the rough. It's a short par five, have to lay up nice little eight iron in dead chunk, make bogey. Next hole hit driver about a hundred yards, right? Find it. Luckily don't know how pitch out, hit it long, make an amazing up and down for another bogey two over next hole hit a drive i'm not kidding you 200 yards right of the fairway hits a tree somehow we have three minutes to find the ball with 10
Starting point is 00:07:52 seconds left this kid's like hey here's your ball i'm like holy shit punch it out hit it on make a putt for par punch it out then hit it on make a puff problem all right great next hole bogey standard three putt three over through four next hole hit another horrible drive hits a tree goes in the bunker hit it to an inch birdie okay two over next hole another bogey standard horrible swing uh next hole ridiculous up and down par still three over par through seven get to eight standard par actually a decent hole par ninth nice little shot and didn't make the birdie putt par three over through nine no worries but i'm hitting it like shit get to 10 hit a three
Starting point is 00:08:32 iron down the fairway have 100 yards hit that shot about 50 yards dead chunk uh chipped it on missed the putt another bogey next hole hit a nice drive dead dead center down the fairway got 120 yards in i chunk it again not 50 yards probably 80 yards uh chip it on missed the putt another bogey next hole par actually a decent shot so now i'm five over through 10 11 12 get to 13 hit a great shot right just goes into the rough i got 115 yards skull fuck it over the green so now i've hit chunks chunks sideways now it's a skull fuck uh chip that one the greens are rolling so fast chip that one rolls off the green against the collar chip that one uh to about eight feet miss it double so now i'm seven over uh next hole 14 i hit a horrific drive just terrible it's in a bunker
Starting point is 00:09:28 chunk it out of the bunker from 150 um then chip it on don't even get it on actually chip it short have a par putt hits the pin doesn't go in so what is that now eight over get to the next hole par three 215 yards hit it about 40 yards right into a into the woods somehow is in play uh that was basically a shank actually chipped it on missed the putt so now i'm nine over i get to 16 actually hit a good drive this sounds like a biz round buddy buddy dude dude i get to 16 actually hit a good drive i Sounds like a biz round. Buddy, buddy, dude, dude. Get to 16. Actually hit a good drive. I have 190 yards in. Blow that one 20 yards right. It goes in a bunker somehow.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I also was like, it was like 30 yards short and 20 yards right. Goes in the bunker. Barely get it out of the bunker. Stays in the rough. Chipped that one onto 10 feet. Missed that one. That's a double. Now 11 over. I get to the 17th hole which is a par 5 hit by far and away the best drive that i've probably hit in like four days it runs down i think the hole is like 520 i had i had 210
Starting point is 00:10:39 yards in it rolled and rolled and rolls downhill downwind. I'm like, nice. All right, let's make a birdie. Hit it on two putt and I'll get a birdie. I'll get 10 over. Dead shank. Dead shank into the woods. So two, it was actually a pond. So two and three out. I'm hitting my fourth. I hit it on the green.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I three putt that one. That's a double. I'm now 13 over. And I get to 18, hit one down the middle perfect nice number 140 to the pin chunk it into the bunker uh leave it in the bunker now i'm hitting my fourth shot hit the fourth shot on make the putt so that that adds up to uh 14 over par 84 uh i think i would say of 150 competitors i'm probably in 140th right now um golf's a fucking joke it's an absolute joke uh i don't even know what to say i do have the
Starting point is 00:11:33 second round tomorrow zero chance of getting in matthew i i i'd like to think i can beat 84 tomorrow um but at this point it's just like holy shit holy shit. Like, can't hit driver. Can't even hit a wedge. If I have a long iron, I might as well kick it. I'll get it closer to the green. Your boy's down. Your boy's down bad. So then I bombed home. Couldn't even really stay around after.
Starting point is 00:11:55 By the way, Choteau Conquer Country Club. Place is amazing. Beautiful course. Hard course. Not as hard as I made it look, but hard. A lot of woods. Oh, woods and water and fucking shit I mean I'm telling you I didn't hit one I didn't hit one ball center of the club face maybe the drive on
Starting point is 00:12:09 17 fall by a shank I then uh drove home got home internet broken so I shot over to my in-laws um now in the basement of my in-laws and we're recording the pod so it's been a hell of a day it's been a hell of a day but what are you a hell of a day, but what are you going to do? This sport's so stupid. And that's really what I have to say. Could I recommend piano lessons? Listen, I don't have piano hands. Like really though. I might try to play golf lefty.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I'm literally thinking of going to lefty, how I hit a baseball, how I hit a hockey puck and just starting over. I'd probably be like a 25 handicap. And I think that's where the next play should be. So I don't really know what to say about it. I think it's fascinating how you're able to remember all your shots. Well, this just happened.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I mean, this is the worst. It doesn't matter. You do it five days later. Yeah, this is the worst round of golf. Yeah, maybe three, four four years i don't know like since i became like somewhat decent my thing is in golf my bad is so fucking bad that like you're good your bad has to be like good like that's what good golfers are when they don't have their stuff they still get in the hole and and i'm lost jets it's an ugly it's an ugly
Starting point is 00:13:21 situation but it's a lonely feeling but but this is – I'm sorry, one more thing. All right. No, no, no, no, because this is actually important. He's actually going to go over his round from the day before. No, no, no, no. This actually isn't a joke. It's a heartfelt thing. Kind of a tragic thing happened.
Starting point is 00:13:36 This kid that I've gotten to know a little bit, his father's actually a member at Old Sandwich when I play. He passed away this weekend. A horrible thing. There's actually a memorable sandwich when I play. He passed away this weekend, a horrible thing at Charles River Country Club. Rick Willett, a really good guy. And his son Connor's in the tournament.
Starting point is 00:13:55 He played today, which was I can't imagine how hard it was. His family was out there with him and a lot of his friends were following him. And he shot one under 69 and he was right behind me. And just to see that, I mean, talk about like just putting things in perspective. And my heart goes out to that family. Just a horrible thing. And I'm rooting for the kid Connor now. Just I was going to bring up another awful thing where you were down in Nantucket. There was a big fire down there this weekend at the Veranda Hotel.
Starting point is 00:14:16 It just happened. Yeah, I wasn't there anymore, but I saw that. Huge fire. Oh, my God. Well-known hotel. And shout out to Nantucket Fire Department, all the other fire departments who came over from the mainland or Cape Cod to help with these guys. I mean, obviously, I've said a million times, my dad was a fireman.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I have an affinity for these guys, a firefighter. But then they found out that it most likely happened. And this fucking drives me crazy. Like, grind my gears. This is just common sense. Like, careless disposal of smoking materials. That's how this fucking fire started, which drives me crazy me crazy because like it's not in the trash area so someone must have dumped an ashtray out into trash and that shit smolders if you don't pour water on it put it out so this
Starting point is 00:14:53 thing started a fire now it nearly killed people the people had to go out the window there was one couple they they just flew up from georgia lost everything they can only get out in their pajamas and their cell phone and they they had to fly home they had nothing left and just the the danger that they put the firefighters and all these people like it's over fucking just put your fucking cigarettes or whatever you're smoking out i i don't smoke butts i smoke what i smoke i make sure it's out whether whether device i'm using it's whatever it's out you know what i mean it's fucking you just it's such a careless thing that you can kill people and put people's lives in jeopardy man so it just drives me fucking bonkers when when i hear that fire start because of careless like cigarette disposal whatever man but anyways i'm glad everybody was safe i know a couple people
Starting point is 00:15:33 got hurt but everybody is was you know no life-threatening injuries are just an awful fucking thing so let's segue into something a little more cheerful yeah he's gonna well in a sec but biz man he's gonna be touring canada with that five times distilled vodka infused with the Yeah, the draft. some of that fine pink waiting this summer and paul you are on a plane again right now when you're leaving tomorrow the day after where you going next let the people know it's coming out uh on tuesday so i'll be leaving tuesday at 11 a.m heading over to toronto the first pink whitney tour appearance will be at lake house on wednesday and then near my hometown in saint catherine's ontario at the mansion nice i think it's called the mansion house. So we got the lake house, mansion house, a lot of houses.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And then next podcast, um, we will be mentioning all the Western dates. I will be starting in Winnipeg. We've mentioned that Brandon and Winnipeg and working our way West. So look out for those dates next week. So thank you to pink Whitney, the 2022 pink Whitney tour begins Wednesday and Tio in to baby nice hopefully you'll be recovered by
Starting point is 00:16:47 then a little hair the parents and then i'm actually going to bring uh my my sister's kids who are twins have never been to a jay's game so we got the whole setup when that when that roof opens it looks so sick in there yeah the school i call it the sky dome so everyone tries to correct me but it'll always that is the sky dome forever the sky dome baby number one at first open and like the hotel rooms were like looking on the field so they had to put signs that's where i'm staying with my family to tell people to stop smashing with their drapes open because people could see them during the game yeah yeah yeah that's true grapes especially with the business there they love no
Starting point is 00:17:21 this is that business hopping from room to room. Oh, fuck off. But I could forge that. And guys, we're, we're just over a week away from Chicklets Cup. So we will be in Buffalo in no time. We're not going to say who the guests are. We will be doing a sandbagger next Wednesday to start things off on our Buffalo trip. So a lot to jam pack into that awesome week.
Starting point is 00:17:46 And Terry Ryan and crew will be coming in from Newfoundland and we're going to have a fucking riot. So everybody who's who's coming, make sure you're there. Even if you're in town folks on the Friday, we have something at the river works where everybody is invited and Grinnelly. Do you want to give them a little bit more details? Maybe when that's going to start and who the musicians are we have Boston Levy Boston Levi is uh he'll be performing first and then we have Dante the Don who's performing after that Dante plays the hits he knows what he's doing it's he's he's the best DJ in the league so uh but guys I have a little breaking
Starting point is 00:18:20 news here I uh I want to bring across the table um break this is from darren dreger uh breaking news uh sources say evgeny malkin has decided to go to the open market on wednesday wow malkin has never been a free agent before and wants to see what his options are yeah i can't oh my god to think of him in any other jersey wow and and now there were rumors Sid had flown down to Florida to talk to him I believe as you heard that the the negotiations were kind of falling apart and in a bad spot and and you know Chris Letang got the new deal it'll be a penguin for life it looks like but holy shit and I think people saw this at least I saw this kind of coming but want to bet on somebody to have a monster season?
Starting point is 00:19:05 I think wherever that guy ends up, you're going to see a pissed off and motivated Evgeny Malkin. And I know there's been injuries and he gets a little older, but the people of Pittsburgh, what a shocking, shocking turn of events. Just the end of an era with those three. Well, I mean, I guess I don't know. He could resign there. do you resign there he could resign there excuse me all right you're right it's not like he was going to get the eight years anyway because i think those guys are and that's the thing they gave letang the six-year deal that brought his aav down now i would imagine that he plans on playing the full six years i think that
Starting point is 00:19:41 he's still got a lot of hockey left in him maybe more so Malkin might want a shorter term deal but not want the AAV down I don't know exactly what he wants man but given with what that organization's done with all of them and the fact that you know Sid's on a pretty friendly deal for what he still provides and obviously Letang for what he's done I think that that's a bargain um I I was expecting him to stay I thought that they were going going to rekindle it and it was going to work out. And as you said, though, it's not for sure that he's going to move on. Maybe he just wants to find out
Starting point is 00:20:11 what the open market can provide him to use it as leverage to go back to Pittsburgh and say, hey, this is what other people are willing to give me. But I mean, guys, given with what other teams would probably desperately pay him, and we've made comments about new york rangers maybe trying to get patrick kane to come over well that'll be sticking right in their eye
Starting point is 00:20:30 you'd be you'd be paying them less if of course if chicago doesn't retain salary and you don't got to give up any assets for him so wow it's it's bias but it's recency bias but i mean it's one thing seeing yarmir, Jagr, and Rangers, and granted, he'd been with the Capitals in between. But to see Evgeny Malkin, I mean, we're just totally rumor boy in it right now. Who knows if the Rangers want him or could afford him, but Panarin there, another Russian, just crazy news. And I think with what Malkin did in Pittsburgh, I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:03 it's just surprising that they couldn't figure something out. I guess it is a good point that he could go back and sign there, but how often does a guy who's coming up on UFA decide to test the market and then go back to the team, right? I mean, I guess when did Landis Fogg sign? Was it during the first day of free agency or was it a little beforehand? I can't remember. I think they ended up locking in him beforehand because he did get the eight years.
Starting point is 00:21:26 So Malkin to fly is confirmed. Oh, my goodness. A lot of people online right now are saying the Washington Capitals. That'd be interesting. Yeah, anyone in the Patrick division. Oh, my God. Every team we just mentioned, it would just break Pittsburgh Penguins' hearts.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Now, I know that he loves florida and he spends a lot of time there i want to say gaunch has a place there as well and they're on the rise and they need to make a move and i don't i just don't know if they would have enough cap space in order to figure that situation out but uh i would say my front runner would be the florida panthers if he did not sign with the p Penguins. Do you think that he ends up a Pittsburgh Penguin next season? Yes or no? I'm going to say no. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:22:13 If this is happening, no. All right. No, he doesn't seem to want to take this sort of hometown discount that Sid talked about a few years ago. Everybody needs to take less. I think Gino, we know he marches to the less. I think Gino's just, you know, we know he marches to the beat of his own drummer. And yeah, I mean, I don't think he's coming back,
Starting point is 00:22:29 even though if it's still possible. And as much as I love Pittsburgh, I will stroke off that organization, that city, everything they've done for me in my life. I do think that sometimes the fan base can be a little bit harsh. You saw Marc-Andre Fleury go through it. He obviously has thick skin because he never really let it affect him where they were willing to trade him after his
Starting point is 00:22:49 quote-unquote prime was up when matt murray came in he was the brand new shiny toy they always seem to have a scapegoat in pittsburgh and i mean maybe mark madden's not exactly the guy to lean on for the the most accurate hockey news but he was all over him most this season, and so were most of the other part of the fan base. So maybe he's also sick and tired of that, and he's saying, I'm bringing my talents elsewhere, and maybe that played a factor. Yeah, well.
Starting point is 00:23:17 And not wanting to take a hometown discount. It's very true about Penguins fans and Malkin. It's always been bizarre to me. And my buddy Jake, he's the head pro at Naples National. He's a huge penguins fans and Malcolm. It's always been bizarre to me. And like my buddy, Jake, he's the head pro at Naples nationally, huge penguins fan for Pittsburgh. He told me his dad can't stand him. I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, just drives them nuts as a fan. It's like,
Starting point is 00:23:34 there are so many people who I think have been so spoiled by Crosby and the, and the old term of like really not taking a night off when maybe there's been some games, Gino's just kind of lugging it and dogging it a little bit but to be frustrated and not be a fan of his as a penguin fan is bananas to me yeah no doubt we got tons more free agent stuff to get guys guys i have some more breaking news oh my god are you fucking kidding me what's happening right now pierre lebrun this is from pierre lebrun hearing that cup champion Avalanche have agreed to an eight-year extension with Valerie Nishuskin. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Even though you miss said it, you got biz brain right now. Nishuskin. Isn't it Nishuskin? Yeah. What would you say? I would say five or five and a half would be a very good deal. Any more than that. I would just get a little bit weary.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Now, you ask anybody. He's an analytic darling. He obviously wasn't. Why are you laughing, R? I just told you, an analytic darling. Well, just as far as all the underlying numbers, and then it just goes to point. The eye test, you can obviously see all of it,
Starting point is 00:24:42 and his contributions through these playoffs. We often lean to try to compare, like, the second wave of player the eye test you can obviously see all of it and his contributions through these playoffs we often lean to try to compare like the the second wave of player getting it done like how Palat did it during their couple runs and what his contributions were you saw that from him but you also haven't seen a ton else maybe in seasons prior we could go back to his Dallas days and maybe how he wasn't happy to be there I would just be a little weary of giving this guy an eight-year deal, anything over five and a half million bucks. He is not – I don't think he's a guy that you look as a core, core piece.
Starting point is 00:25:16 He's kind of that next wave over. Am I wrong here? No, you're right. I mean, this year he was so good. They talked about knowing they couldn't keep Kaji that was pretty important to Joe Sackett who's now moved on to president um that'll that'll that'll Ariel bring that up a little bit but he he Nechushkin in the playoffs it's like I think we have to keep this guy that's how they're looking at it but with with the deal
Starting point is 00:25:40 McCarr took and the deal Landis Fogg took and I'm sure that Nate Dogg's gonna take a little bit of a break. I can, I cannot see it being more than five and a half because he's going to, they're going to say, listen, you want to be here. You want to be on this team.
Starting point is 00:25:52 We just won. You got, you have to take a little less and the eight year probably spreads it out a little bit, but wow, we're just getting hit with news. I was going to say is we got free agency, tons of talk later.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I guess Kevin weeks, we bring him on. He's got some scoop for us later. We're going to talk about the draft for us, but biz is we got free agency. Tons of talk later. I guess Kevin Weeks, we bring him on. He's got some scoop for us later. We're going to talk about the draft for us. But Biz, we got to talk about this picture. We tweeted out for the caption contest. You and your Phoenix days. Shane Doan to the left is laughing.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Is Keith D'Ando. Who's the other player on the wall? He's so Russian looking. No, it was Brett McClain. And unfortunately, during his time with the with the coyotes he ended up getting a heart problem where he had to retire yeah man it was he was like on the ice and they had to revive him it was one of the scariest things that the organization had ever been practice or something um i want i i'm not sure if it was a practice or game but i would say it was in tucson where
Starting point is 00:26:44 it happened and uh unfortunately he had to retire i think he's doing great now in his personal life and you know he ended up transitioning out of hockey well but uh awesome teammate awesome guy he had great uh great goal scoring ability around the net hell of a shot and uh he was he was the guy in that picture but that's when we used to play sewer ball before games. And we used to have a riot. That was actually, the picture was taken in Vancouver. So we were just fucking around. And yeah, just those are the times you remember and you miss as a player,
Starting point is 00:27:14 just fucking around with the guys. It looked like you were doing Cornholio from Habibus and Butthead. With the way the shirt was over your head. Cornholio. Cornholio. All right, either way, we cleared up that mystery. But, yeah, the NHL draft, man, very entertaining. The last few have been kind of boring.
Starting point is 00:27:29 But the hometown Canadians made sure to liven things up at the first draft in Montreal in 13 years. First, and what was a surprise to a lot of people, they took forward Uri Slavkovski out of Slovakia. First overall, made him the first Slovak to go number one overall. And then shortly after that gary betman comes out with a pair of trades he announced that the habs eventually learned uh landed 21 year old kirby doc with the blackhawks took third overall just three years ago betman
Starting point is 00:27:54 gave it a little showmanship thought that was pretty entertainment oh he was fucking hilarious the whole crowd was amazing just with the amount they were booing him and then and then and then he's like i have a trade to announce and then they're like boo and he's like no no i think you want to hear this one no yeah hey so i was with my brother-in-law watching and he's not really a hockey fan he's like why are they booing this guy i'm like well i think at this point it's almost like they just boom to boom i don't really know if it's truly like that much hatred towards him a bunch of out of the show by gary but they haven't won enough cups but they were they were relentless where they continued every time he's talking they're booing him and
Starting point is 00:28:29 he said jeez it continues like oh well now it's just any other arena probably would have ended after the original boo but montreal they're just known to give everyone the business and this is after they were handed first overall pick we all know it should have been the fucking coyotes and they're still gonna boom what a bunch of fucking babies in that crowd booing him as long as how how could they hate that man that much after the success that that organization has had since their existence well all their success before he was commissioner right i mean all right when did he take over i think i think they won it in 93 i think that was on betman's watch if i'm not mistaken okay okay all right well actually cornelli is gonna have to look into that to confirm but uh i don't know that would be funny if all of them had been won since uh
Starting point is 00:29:13 since he took over so no wonder they were fucking booing him uh i don't know what part of the draft it was but at some point they started cheering someone and betman's like can i get some of that like did you hear him say that he was i think at one point he's like what the fuck he must have had the dab pen beforehand lightened up a little bit well biz you mentioned you mentioned at the beginning uh the the all the the Arizona Coyotes brass all dressed the exact same I heard it was actually in honor of Harry Knuckles it was the same uniform he wore and you'll never see so that's pretty cool to dress up like him and dress like a seat guy and I wanted to you know shout out the Coyotes for thinking of a Harry Knuckles guy who'd been a part of that well you know they're moving on from from
Starting point is 00:29:52 Glendale over to ASU so I'm not sure if he'd be able to head a Knuckles the guys so beautiful homage to him and uh and uh well represented at the And guys, not only was there tons of showmanship, the fans booing, Gary being funny, but there was a shock. There was rumblings that they were not going to go with Shane Wright first overall. But to see the second pick go, the third pick go, and then finally Seattle lands him at four.
Starting point is 00:30:24 And on top of that, this could be a rumor, and this could not be the case, and maybe you guys can confirm, but as Shane Wright walked on stage, he was staring down the Montreal Canadiens draft table multiple times. Yes or no, R.A.? Was that fabricated by the interwebs? Because I tend to put a lot of stock into Twitter and their reactions. I believe he was.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I know there was one reporter that said he was looking for the TV camera, which doesn't make any sense because why would he be fucking giving a dirty look to the camera? Everyone there said the Montreal table was right there and that's what he was doing. I have a hard time thinking it was not. Why would he be giving the camera a dirty look? He had to be because the whole thing was he is he is smiling with batman and then just immediately turns on the mean face and then kind of gave him another one too so he was great now now it was interesting because i felt like no granted there were rumors in the in the seasons slavkovsky had slavkovsky
Starting point is 00:31:21 excuse me it was like all right well maybe this guy could take over but it was more the morning of the draft you really saw saw rumblings coming out that like it looks like it's gonna be this guy and and I mean I felt bad for Shane Wright and it brought me right back to my draft and it was the Jay Bomeister scenario in terms of it was the same thing since they were 15 years old both guys are the first overall picks in three years it's like these guys are clear-cut the best player at their age group and we got to our draft in 02 and ended up being rick nash and then you're like all right well now it's bo meister and boom carrie letton goes ahead of him and what sucks for him bo meister at the time who's laughing now who cares and for right now is like the cameras just they don't leave that guy right so it's like oh
Starting point is 00:32:05 this poor kid is supposed to be the best day of his life and he's kind of sitting there and you know just the anxiety and the feeling that he's going through of it's such a disappointment when when in reality it's such a special day and what you've done is is so amazing to get where you're at now and in the end it doesn't even really matter where you get drafted right like the game goes now dude like now it's what we see but you just feel for a kid who's been preparing for something for that long to then be like sitting there and it must have felt like it was fucking four hours the three picks that went by yeah and like when you're a kid who's been you're being talked about going first overall for probably three four years might be a bit of a shot to the
Starting point is 00:32:43 ego to not um maybe a little bizarre that you're staring down the table. Now, the only reasonable explanation for that is maybe Canadians brass pulled the old cush lashes, old man, where he's like, Jerry, you're our guy. My words are strong as oak and then completely cut, right? That's like the only explanation where they tell them you're going number one, we you buddy and then boom he gets hit with that one and that the fact that you had to wait for you know three more picks to finally be called but i look at it like this apparently the kid that the canadians drafted seems to be maybe the most nhl ready and with the moves that they're making they're probably looking to go from successful team that went to the cup finals to complete laughing stock of the league to now maybe got their maybe got their names back in the mix.
Starting point is 00:33:31 And then I think what you talked about it when we get to weeks later on was who knows, maybe they go out and sign Klingberg, too. So this Montreal Canadiens team could be ready to compete again with some of the guys that they've stocked up on. And moving it over to Shane Wright, bud, look at the young centerman this Seattle team has. This team could be a wagon in a few years with all the depth they have down the middle. They got Beneers, they got Shane Wright, and there's one other name I'm forgetting of, and I know Grinnelli's going to hop in and throw it at me.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Grinnelli just did text over. Gary Bettman was elected December 12, 1992. He took office February 1, 1993, a few months before the Canadians won their last Stanley Cup. There you go, Canadians. What the fuck are you booing for? He fucking handed you a cup in his era. Go on now. I also
Starting point is 00:34:18 did tweet out that and this is no offense to Shane Wright, not a bad looking kid by any means, but when I saw, I had never seen Slavkovsky's face, right? You see him lighten up the Olympics. You see he's a big monster scoring goals. They showed the kid in the crowd. I tweeted, that's what he fucking looks like?
Starting point is 00:34:37 He's beautiful. If you're looking at the option and the kid's this good and then you see he looks like that, it's like, all right, that's our guy. That's our pick. So, I mean, I was super impressed with, I guess, his game and his looks. And now you see all the clips coming out from the rookie camp. So nowadays, and it didn't happen when we were drafted, Biz, but now you get drafted and boom, everyone goes right back to the city
Starting point is 00:35:01 and they have some rookie camps. And I think it's not only just the rookies. It's maybe summer development camp. I don't know how it works. He's in the gym. He's breaking bicycles on the wind gate test. You see this kid? Wow. No, it looked like it was in fast, fast speed. Smashing the wind gate for people who don't know the VO two tests on the bike can be long. It's almost how long you can go.
Starting point is 00:35:19 That's the Duncan Keith masterpiece in terms of the, he's got lungs like a tour de France rider, like biz Wingate is more of 15 to 22nd all out sprint in terms of seeing how strong your legs are. The woman after the test looked at him like, holy shit, this guy. And then after they asked him, he said,
Starting point is 00:35:37 I want to break everything in here. So this kid, he's a man on a mission and he is a force to be reckoned with. Shane Wright did say, yes, I'll have a chip on my shoulder for sure about sliding down to fourth. So definitely put a bird in his cell. Buddy, no state taxes in Seattle. What the fuck is he complaining about?
Starting point is 00:35:53 And he's going to play like sooner. He's going to play next year. It's a guarantee. And he doesn't have to deal with the pressure of playing in Montreal because if he doesn't score in his first five games, they won't be asking him to be traded for crying out loud. Now, Grinelli, I asked you who their depth at center was from the young guns. I mentioned Shane Wright.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I mentioned Beneers. Was there another kid, or am I just making shit up? I think you may just be making shit up. Okay, awesome. Welcome back to the Spit Chickens podcast. Now, that eight-year deal has became firm as far as a number. Nachushkin, 6.125125 so we weren't far off i thought six million would have been that's getting in the range but hey if they believe in him i'm sure he'll be
Starting point is 00:36:35 48.1 million dollars 48.9 million whoo how you doing buddy good for him right for him holy shit yeah that's what the hell is mckinnon gonna get from them um back to the draft quickly yeah what a cool moment for the country of slovakia to have the first and second pick is just so outstanding and i think they later on yeah montreal took another slovak they They took another Slovak in the pretty high up in the draft. So that that's pretty cool for Slavkovsky to have a guy that he that he knows well. And in terms of the pick by New Jersey, I saw that kid. He played world juniors as I think a 16 year old, like like the way Spezza did biz and Bo Meister and as a real young guy.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And I said, holy shit, he was a beast. Then he had the full cage on for quite a while. I think he's been so young and some of the world juniors he played in, but love his game. And I think the Jersey knew what they were doing in terms of understanding. We want to get some defensive help here and we got a future, what they're looking at. Number one guy. We're going to talk about Arizona pick a Maverick Lamarue's parents. They were very
Starting point is 00:37:45 excited about their son getting drafted um just full-on making out right right after he got picked i gotta be honest guys that fucking gave me the biggest half chub that's gotta be the biggest watching that we see called the french open that tongue dart down his throat and i think it was though yeah it was his wife like he went to kiss her and she's just like what do you mean no that was a clean tongue dart well executed right into the makeout oh that's uh of course he had of all fucking numbers too that kid had 69 penalty minutes last year and he had four calls and 20 assists like what are the fucking words the guy whose parents make out of open tongue make-tongue make out, and he has the 69 and the 420.
Starting point is 00:38:27 And you know what? I'm not sure, Biz. They might need a little Roman Swipes later that night because what do you do when you want to last longer? Some of the nights you want to last longer, an awesome concert, maybe season one of Shoresy, you want them all to last a little bit longer. Well, Roman Swipes wants you to last longer in bed, 340% better in bed, that is.
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Starting point is 00:39:05 longer lasting sex so go to get roman.com slash chicklets to get ten dollars off swipes when you choose a monthly plan maybe we can get a promo code for uh his parents one of these days because uh that was pretty funny stuff gee i know you want to these are going to be having key parties by the time you know it with this kid in the organization in dorms yeah so that was pretty funny also bob is i want to talk about the this kid logan organization in dorms. Yeah. So that was pretty funny. Also, Bob is, I want to talk about this kid, Logan Cooley, that Arizona also took a third. He's a Pittsburgh kid. A great story here. You know, Sid's Sid's little penguins was a program he started back years ago.
Starting point is 00:39:36 He wanted young kids who maybe couldn't afford equipment or just to make hockey equipment available. This program has helped about 14,000 kids already. And this kid is the highest drafted player ever from Pittsburgh, Logan Cooley, just a great story. And it goes to show how much these programs work. I mean, we think of it. He was one of the beneficiaries of getting some of this gear in order to kick off his, his hockey career.
Starting point is 00:39:58 And we know how expensive it is for these parents, man. So shout out to Sid and the organization for starting that. And obviously it playing a part in fact, that this kid was drafted, the highest kid ever from Pittsburgh drafted. Yeah. It's a great thing. Ironically, he was a Capitals and Ovechkin fan. So that's kind of, kind of ironic how it worked out. But like I said, these programs, I know Emil Francis did it in New York city years ago. And you know,
Starting point is 00:40:20 Joey Mullen and Brian Mullen and Nick Fatih ended up getting the pros and Eddie Short did something similar, Boston. These programs are great, man. I mean, even if like one orih who ended up getting the pros, and Eddie Shore did something similar at Boston. These programs are great, man. I mean, even if, like, one or two kids end up going pro, man, that's all worth it, plus all the kids who might, you know, get scholarships or just go out and have some fun. So these programs are good stuff. So when guys do it, it's awesome for the neighborhood,
Starting point is 00:40:37 the community, and whatever. We're going to talk about this Tampa pick, Isaac Howard, the Iceman. Oh, my God. Ike. What a legend. Yeah, Avery. He looked like Avery's stunt double when he comes strutting out. Isaac Howard, the Iceman. Ike, what a legend. Yeah, Avery. He looked like Avery's stunt double when he comes strutting out. He's got the white suit looking like a disco fever out there,
Starting point is 00:40:53 the belt buckle, the mock turtleneck. And then he's got the quote of all quotes. I think I'm the best looking guy here, so I decided to be the best dressed too. I mean, confidence off the charts. I'd never seen that like this in the draft before. I love the fact that, not even joking, like 20 years ago, this kid would have been shunned. Somebody would have like kicked him.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Tampa would have rescinded the draft pick. And now it's just, it's all about making waves, right? It's all about maybe getting a little viral clip. It's about some confidence and it's actually showing that you're getting some more personalities in the game of hockey. So no doubt that kid's going to take some shit. You you think he cares and apparently he's got some serious game too he flies and he can score and so to see that quote and i actually got home i was at i was watching the first 10 picks the draft then went out and got back for that the last two picks in the first round i was like who is this kid and please fill in yarmir yager's line on instagram after all right because
Starting point is 00:41:45 that was the most beautiful part yeah he said this kid is lucky it's not 1990 big guys would change his face and of course everyone's like oh settle down boom blah blah blah it's like well yeah like you just said i mean if that kid did it 30 some years ago he'd be looking at some of the fucking outfits that yager used to wear well that's the irony coming from him biz oh my goodness i know but i think back then how about the hair he had on him for crying out loud that alone biz almost got kicked off pittsburgh for asking mario to go to lunch imagine if he said he was the best looking guy in the draft yeah i wouldn't lie to his face though i just want to go to lunch with the guy um yeah that was, that was definitely quite the outfit.
Starting point is 00:42:25 You got to have some big balls to show up to the draft like that. What would have been even tougher is if he would have slid outside the first round. Oh, man. He would have had a different outfit. Because then you got to wear it the same day or the next day, excuse me. So I will say just overall, probably one of the most entertaining drafts since I can remember. So shout out to everybody in montreal the fans who made it so special and also having it in a city where all
Starting point is 00:42:50 the brass and scouts and everybody can enjoy themselves doing it um and uh that's pretty much all i got as far as draft the only other name that popped up uh was a kid from vancouver who uh who everybody was excited to get from there some people had them high as as high as going eighth overall and then they felt they got a steal there and then the one other pick they made uh Elias Pedersen yeah Spider-Man meme yeah that's how crazy is that Elias Pedersen same name but they said they never met each other well I again that's been contradicted I don't know if they have but we got to talk about Bruce Boudreaux before we move on.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Big wrestling superfan. He's sitting there with the NHL Network set up, and they bring over Kevin Owens from the WWE. I'm not the biggest wrestling fan anymore. I guess this guy is huge. Boudreaux lit up like a Christmas tree. He was like a 10-year-old kid fanboying out. It was absolutely historical watching that clip.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Is he from Montreal, or was WWE there? I think he watching that clip is he from Montreal or were they was WWE there I think he might be if not from Montreal a local guy okay from the area but just just funny to watch a guy his age still get that excited about wrestling I mean hey it's great to have passions but it's because it's Boudreaux as well
Starting point is 00:43:59 and you know he's from Montreal that's correct okay a couple other quick notes too if you find that third centerman that I was talking about, G, just text it on over. Seattle Metropolitan some 90 years ago. It was just the second time that the top two picks were born outside of North America and came from the same country back in 2004. Ovi and Gino did the same thing.
Starting point is 00:44:19 And this was interesting, too. From the first draft in 1963 up until 1984, every single draft was in montreal was either held in hotels the league officer at the forum so first 21 years every every draft was in montreal hurry yeah oh god yeah the places must have been off the hook during those years and uh also a couple local guys uh we want to say congrats to defenseman chris romaine of milton academy he was taken by colorado in the sixth round uh he's obviously a buddy of uh he's friends with our pal jake i got a chance to meet him at jake's's obviously a buddy of our, he's friends with our pal, Jake.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I got a chance to meet him at Jake's graduation party, Jake Tebow. He's going to Providence next year. So best of luck to Chris. And I'll also congrats to Michael Callow of St. Sebastian's in a South Boston Anaheim took him in the fifth round. He's going to Harvard next year. So congrats, Mike, good luck on in the future. Hopefully things go well for you. Boys, like I said, we've got a lot of free agency talk. I think we should probably bring in weeks.sy right about now to get the folks.
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Starting point is 00:46:10 Go to shopify.com slash chicklets right now. And now we're going to send it over to our pal, Kevin Weeks. Well, it's always a blast to welcome this guy back to the show. After stopping pucks for 11 years in the NHL, our pal has become the scoop king of the NHL, breaking stories left and right, not to mention from who knows where. It's great to have you back on the Spitting Chicklets podcast. Kevin Weeks, how the hell are you, my friend?
Starting point is 00:46:36 I'm good, bro. Thank you so much, R.A. Thanks for the kind intro. Fellas, how we living? How you doing? And to our audience, what's the good word? What's going on? Just waiting for scoops, man. Waiting for scoops from Weeksy. Yes, yes, yes. I'll be peeping the phone as we're on. So if you see my sausage fingers going crazy, if we have anything breaking,
Starting point is 00:46:56 I'll let you know. But I'm working on a couple of them right now. There's a ton going on. When we first met, or I think it was you who really started telling me about post-career. And at that time, you were doing the late West Coast Hockey Night in Canada game, color-wise. And you were really helpful for me in terms of getting into it after. And then you got into NHL Network and all these different spots. But in terms of the insider stuff, that's more recent. And I'm wondering, how does that even come about? I know you can't give away sources, but the whole time, did you kind of know,
Starting point is 00:47:24 I want to get into breaking more news and things like that? You know what's crazy? Yeah, thank you for that, bro. And I do remember us talking so much when you were up in Edmonton. And congrats to you guys on what you've done post-playing career and putting it all together, URA and Grinnell and the team. You guys have just rocked. You guys are rocking.
Starting point is 00:47:40 So that's the first thing before we go any further. Give you guys your props for what you're doing. Hold on. What a beverage is that bro is that a pink whitney in it or no no this is iced coffee trust me it's a long it's been a long day i need one of those later all right all right the beginning of the podcast people have already heard by now is disgusting so that's why it'll be pink whitney later okay you got to sample the product because that looks like brown whitney right now so yeah but seriously, no. So, so basically what happened was like, I've been doing games, doing color, doing studio, doing whatever, hosting stuff, doing different things, which is all amazing. And I love all of it. It's all cool. And it's all super fun.
Starting point is 00:48:19 But as far as the breaking stuff, I was kind of sprinkling it in a little bit from time to time, but you guys know this 99% of the stuff that we have, we don't even use, we don't even bring to the airwaves, right? Because a lot of that is our trust that we have with everybody in the business, the boys in the business, the ladies in the business, former teammates, guys, we know people we play junior with against the whole thing. So a lot of it is just, we always get so much information. It's just that we usually guard it and we don't really share So a lot of it is just, we always get so much information. It's just that we usually guard it and we don't really share part of any of it. And what ended up happening was there was a few of those things that I had gotten and hockey fans, you guys know, sports fans in
Starting point is 00:48:56 general. So I'm not going to limit it, but I'll say from our sport, hockey fans love news. They love transactions. They're like junkies for transactions. They look like Larry at Madison Square Garden when the music comes on, my guy, Larry, in the third period. So basically, they love the news and they love the news cycle and the transaction stuff. So I started breaking a little bit here and there. And over time, I've kind of broken a little bit more and felt a little bit more comfortable with it. But our fans just have like an insatiable appetite for news and for different things happening. And, and you know, this too, so too do the boys and girls that are playing.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Like everybody loves to know what's going on. The owners love to know what's going on. The coaches love to know what's going on. The trainers, you name it. So it's been a lot of fun. How did the whole, like the background thing come about? I know it was probably during the deadline. And then all of a sudden you were breaking them from doing your like dear daily chores. And next thing you know, it just took on a mind of its own.
Starting point is 00:49:52 He was underwater. And I can't swim. I told you guys that last time. Let me, let me say this. Basically what happened was you guys know the news world the hockey world's nobody's waiting on us like if you gotta walk your dog you guys have dogs you gotta walk them you gotta feed your pet turtle you gotta feed it like which you guys have kids you gotta you know you're gonna do stuff with your nobody's waiting for you it doesn't work like that so
Starting point is 00:50:21 basically what ended up happening was i would get information and i'd have information that i could verify to be able to break what just so happens i'm getting a fade i'm in the barbershop so i i gotta break it from the barbershop it just so happens we were in the spa just up the street before me driving up to bristol for trade deadline gotta break it from the spa i swear to god so listen we we go into the spa and i get some news to break really nice lady older russian lady that owns a spa and i'm like ma'am is it okay if i do news from here and she looks at me she's like i go are you like so you don't mind so then all of a sudden i start shooting it and she starts howling but basically the concept really came from just being natural, number one. And number two, you know, my wife has a really global marketing job and PR job.
Starting point is 00:51:09 And she was just saying, she's like, this is who you are. You love having fun, own it, have fun with it, interact with the fans. And you guys see this based on all the great things you guys are doing. The fans don't like the filters in between. They like to feel like we're there with them and we are. So that's a big part of it there on that biz. Weeksy, we got to ask Johnny Gaudreau. I mean, he's the biggest name in the market.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I think the longer it takes, the less likely he's going to go back to Calgary. I know he probably prefers the East or Northeast. What are you thinking when he ends up? I'm guessing either Jersey or Carolina. I want to hear what you have to say. Oh, what? I love R.A. R.A. with the hoo-hoo. R.A. R.A. with the R.A.
Starting point is 00:51:46 and R.A. scoop. I heard I heard I heard from somebody there's not a chicken Dick's chance in hell. He ends up with New Jersey. I'm not listening. This isn't a scooping. This is more like kind of look at it. Who has the money? I know what these Raleigh's not too far from his hometown. So I'm just kind of deducing on that that level. But I want to hear what your take is. All right. So first thing, I'll start in Calix. I think you guys know my wife's family's from Alberta. They're all throughout Alberta. She's grew up in Calgary the most part. So I've got all these Albertans in the family now and every, where's he going? What's he doing? Have you heard anything? What's going on? Every two seconds. I'm like, bro, I'm not Johnny Goudreau.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I'm Johnny Goudreau. You know what I mean? Don't jack this up. Get it right. So, so, so anyway, as I'm looking at it, right, as I'm kind of looking at the landscape, we know the flambés, the flames can give him the eight years, right? They can go to max. They can give him that extra year, spread the bread out. We know that he flourished. He's coming off of a monster career season. Calgary makes a lot of sense for him to stay there I do know for a fact that of course he's partial to the northeast being a jersey slash philly guy playing it at bc there in bean town jersey has the money the devils do they've got the cap space philly would be even closer to home because he's a south jersey guy
Starting point is 00:53:03 right by philly that's his childhood favorite team but does Philly have the bread I spoke to somebody in Philly's organization before we came on the show today and they're like we see we got money to move I don't know if we have the money I don't know if we have the money available to make it happen so those would be my top two right now I would then say this though just to throw a little wrinkle in things to our ace point what if Carolina you've got guys coming off the books right you've got guys coming off the books right now what if Carolina they could take a run I think he'd be fire on Carolina of all the teams that if it's not Calgary I think Carolina he'd be fire and they're a really good team yeah that might be the one piece they need
Starting point is 00:53:46 to finally get themselves over the edge as well. So as of right now, you don't really have an answer for us because he hasn't made a decision, and it's hard to get those types of leaks in any way. He's got options. He's got options, totally. Me and R.A. were going back and forth. Obviously, we're not the insiders. Fuck, we barely even know the rules.
Starting point is 00:54:04 If free agency does come and go and that deadline passes, and forth like obviously we're not the insiders we fuck we barely even know the rules um if free agency does come and go and that deadline passes because calgary had his rights before that do they still have the opportunity to give them the eight years beyond that deadline or at that point do they become like everybody else and can only offer them seven years yeah they'll become like everyone else and only offer them the seven years. So that's the challenge for them. If they want to get this done sooner rather than later, it'll go a long way for them because they could spread it out over the eight years. But the problem is clearly he hasn't come to his decision in terms of what he wants
Starting point is 00:54:36 to do and where he wants to go. And he holds the cards right now. But that extra year, that's huge. That's huge to be able to spread it out. Otherwise, that means it's a steeper price for the other buyer. Let's say if it's Philly, it's a steeper price because they've got to spread that money over seven. If it's Carolina, if it's Jersey, the same thing. We haven't talked about anybody else out West, though.
Starting point is 00:54:58 But here's a question for you. Like, what about St. Louis if they move money out? There's so many different options that would want him. That's why it's like you hear Philly and like Carolina. I guess that does make a lot of sense. I hadn't even thought about that. There's always that surprise team that comes in, though. And you think of St. Louis, it's like a game breaker like that.
Starting point is 00:55:19 It's a great question, but I guarantee come noon or whenever it opens, there'll be some teams you never would have thought of that are calling offering him tickets. Totally. Totally. And they're going to have those sheets crispy. It's going to be a lot of sheets, as we say, boys. They're going to be pressed. They're going to be starched. They're going to be crispy.
Starting point is 00:55:39 It's laundered clean money. Totally. 100%. I would assume if St. Louisis works they're getting rid of tara sanko off the books because there has been a ton of rummings for that yes i don't i don't necessarily think that he matches their system of play now but would you could add a game changer like that i think you kind of just you bring them in and then you figure out the rest later because they do play a pretty you you know, a pretty aggressive game. They're heavy on the four check. But wow. I never,
Starting point is 00:56:09 I'd never even consider that. And when I close my eyes and try to picture them in a blues uniform, it just does not work. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. No. We're in the blue note. I cannot. No, I, here's what I could picture. I'm doing. I can picture him seeing, I can picture seeing him get all those sheets as in millions. And I could picture him racking up the points. Yeah. Right. That's what I could see them being an offensive driver.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Their Kyra was money this year, mid 70 points. Robert Thomas was money. By the way, Tarasenko coming off a career year, after multiple surgeries on his shoulder, he was awesome for them, but you know, it's been pretty well Pub's that he wants he'd like to be moved so since it's been publicized they're looking for a match but here's another name with st louis i'm told that my man tory crew could be on the market too so so if kroege is on the market who's a real by the way how sick was that pairing with him and justin falk last year they were unreal for the blues last year but uh oh sorry go ahead i'm just gonna say but they have
Starting point is 00:57:10 that young d-man peronovich too right yeah so maybe they end up moving kroege but if they do move kroege and if tarasenko goes what is that that's 14 14 sheets right there that they have available 14 million biz once i saw uh john Hockey in Yeezys on a horse, I could see him anywhere. I could see him in any uniform. The Gucci belt. The Gucci belt Yeezys. And Biz, yeah, a question you were talking about.
Starting point is 00:57:39 So good. Once free agency hits, they are officially, like, not even a part of that team. So the eight years has to be before. Yeah, it's prior to. Before free agency starts they are officially like not even a part of that team so the eight years has to be before yeah before it starts yeah yep yep it's prior to even the casual fans who listen probably knew that so that was just my that's all right i'm an idiot we're a man of the people we're a man of the people um another guy another guy week see and yeah talk about the blues they saw him up close and personal right is Nazem Kadri and
Starting point is 00:58:06 I it's like I'm so happy for him he gets his coffee he basically gets a giant fuck you to Toronto in the celebration he did and at the same time dealt with some horrible shit throughout the playoff so I'm pumped for him and what are you hearing in terms of that and talk about I mean he might be more wanted than good drill. Hey, those are great points by you there with, because Nazem Kadri is in this NHL. He's kind of a unicorn player. There aren't too many players like Nazem Kadri that can throw up north of
Starting point is 00:58:39 70 points that can fight and hold on and fight with anybody in the league at that size. It's not like he's a big man, like Tom Wilson, that can get it on the four check that can drive and hold on and fight with anybody in the league at that size. It's not like he's a big man like Tom Wilson that can get it on the forecheck that can drive offense as great as the abs were this year. And as great as they are, Nate, great Nate, the great McKinnon or skate McKinnon, the way he can fly. You've got kale McCarr, which is beyond fire. I don't know. Are we seeing some shades of a Bobby or slash Brian Leach 2.0 right now? Of course, in this game and kill my car ranting in his money and outstanding
Starting point is 00:59:12 player. But from start to finish of the start of the season, their most consistent player was Nazem Kadri. He's unreal. So to me, if he gets to the marketplace and I spoke with his agent, Darren Ferris yesterday, who I've known a long time, if he gets to the marketplace and i spoke with his agent darren ferris yesterday who i've known a long time if he gets to the marketplace and he doesn't resign in colorado because of cap crunch for them fellas he's gonna get so much bread and he's gonna be such a good ad to any team i go back to saying i'll tell you guys a story because the fans love stories on here i remember we're at yorkville back home in TO some maybe like eight summers ago and I remember saying to him we're on a rooftop bar and I'm like yo Naz you're unreal disher you got to shoot the pill more man shoot the biscuit a little bit more he's like yeah we see you know
Starting point is 00:59:55 yeah he goes you know what he looked at me dead in the eye that night he's like I'm gonna get paid I'm like really I go shoot the puck a lot more you're gonna get paid he's like I'm going to get paid. I'm like, really? I go shoot the puck a lot more. You're going to get paid. He's like, I'm going to get paid. Fast forward to it being what it is. I think he got a bit of a raw deal in Toronto. I think there's people in the organization that didn't treat him well and that subjected him to things that he didn't deserve to be subjected to. Same thing with some of the idiotic fans that we had this year that were saying really terrible things to him what a year it's been and he might do the phil kessel 2.0 he might bring the stanley cup down young street and and really flash that in everybody's eyeballs back home in to yo i don't know like he might and he's earned that so props to naz he there's a lot of places i could see him for sure but let me ask you guys a question. Let's say Johnny Hockey leaves, right, fellas?
Starting point is 01:00:47 Say Johnny Hockey leaves, and he rides out on that horse out of Calves from the Stampede, and he rides out of town. Would Nazem Kadri not be a perfect fit to go to Calgary? Yeah, I don't know. I feel like he's going some – I feel like once you deal with the Canadian media, and especially the way that he has,
Starting point is 01:01:05 that would probably be looking to be his last option. I agree. I mean, yeah. On that note. They got to fill in that role, and that would definitely be a guy who could do it and a guy who's probably got one of the best 200-foot games in the league too. And Darryl would be behind the bench like loving it.
Starting point is 01:01:22 You know what I mean? Do you think that they could make it work in Colorado or is that pretty much signed, sealed and delivered that they won't be able to afford to bring him back? Cause they ended up moving on past Darcy Kemper, who you imagine they probably would have had to pay probably in roughly around six times six. That's probably what he's going to fetch in free agency. So you think with that money that they're not spending, I know that they are in talks with the Chushkin. is there just no way they can bring naz back it'll be tight to do it
Starting point is 01:01:51 but they also have to look for the money for um mckinnon down nate dog too in the not too distant future right so that's the one challenge burkowski comes off the books who is really good for them he's going to do well in free agency the chushkin should they sign him then they're going to have him on the books i just mentioned burkowski being off the books the fact that they get georgiev at a lower number than they would have gotten to your point for kemper it does leave a little bit on the table i think if naz stays there though he's going to have to take – unfortunately, he'd have to take less than he could get elsewhere. Does he want to stay there for something with a 7 or 7.5 on it?
Starting point is 01:02:32 Or does he go to the market and get 8 or 9? That's the question. I guess the question is, does he want to go for that second cup or the money? Correct. That's a huge factor. Huge, huge factor. Huge factor. And here's the one thing, guys, I. That's a huge factor. Huge, huge factor. Huge factor. And here's the one thing, guys, I can tell you too, and the fans,
Starting point is 01:02:48 I'm going to tell you now. I spoke to Jared Bednar numerous times this year. He raved about Nazem Kadri. Raved about him. Professionalism, hunger, commitment to the craft, wanting to be great, bulldog mentality, work ethic, all these great with the young players, how much he's matured off the ice too.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Him and his wife have a young daughter. He just said he was a model citizen and a model player. And you know, Beds is real too. And Beds told me that numerous times, even right up before the cup final. So that's a testament to Naz
Starting point is 01:03:21 and his growth and becoming, you know, a bigger professional and an elite player in this league. Hey, maybe he signs back with the Leafs. Who knows? Hey, listen. How are you going to cliffhanger everybody like that, man? Can you imagine?
Starting point is 01:03:35 Can you imagine? Oh, my God. You know what? He's exactly what they need, though, to your point. Ironically. What they had. Play goalie. He's what?
Starting point is 01:03:44 Oh, shoot. You didn't have to go there all right that's spicy well hey let's not the goal there all right let's go let's go there so apparently uh jack campbell and his camp and the leafs are very far apart it sounds like he's going to end up going to free agency yeah was that a shock to you because i thought he loved it there and i thought that if there's anyone who's going to maybe take a hometown discount uh you know given with the fact that they stuck with him through his tough times last year that they would be able to lock him up but where do you see him moving on to and and now I'm hearing that they're going to get Matt Murray now based on his last few seasons he even makes more money what how does that work there's a lot going on fellas okay let me let me preface this by saying
Starting point is 01:04:25 this all right when you see what you like you gotta pounce on it it's like the valentine's day dance in high school you see somebody you're kind of interested in you can't be on the wall just standing there well that was all right he was like holding his dick on the wall you're telling me i used to go forward and get slapped but slapped but there's a thing at least you move forward and you make it known hey i'm interested do you know what i mean like i feel like some teams have been really conservative there's only x amount of goalies so when you're hanging back and you're just you're a wallflower in the background it makes it a little bit difficult you got to go out and jump and get who you want to get and all that to say if you're the Leafs now,
Starting point is 01:05:07 I've been saying this for two years since Freddie left, I've been saying John Gibson to the Leafs, John Gibson to the Leafs. It hasn't happened. He's the best goalie out there that I think is on a team that is a non-contending team. And he's an outstanding goalie, he's a three-time all-star. All right, they didn't do it.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Cool. All right, then I was like, the flower. Okay flower okay well it didn't happen with the flower cool all right well if you're not going to resign jack campbell or you weren't sure if you're going to resign him now it kind of goes down the road so i was speaking to some people involved in the matt murray thing today to bring you up to speed which is why i tweeted this earlier today I'm told that he's been undergoing physicals and physical evaluation like as in medical evaluations with the Leafs he spent a lot of his own money Matt Murray on his health and rehabilitating to get healthy to play for this upcoming season the Leafs are doing the medical due diligence literally right up to right now and I understand the framework of a deal is in place between the Leafs and Sens but of course all of this
Starting point is 01:06:12 is predicated on his health and what the Leafs find out in terms of his health if they feel comfortable with his health now and going forward then I think the deal's on and if they don't the deal's off let me let me get your opinion on something though, because Matt Murray, two times Stanley cup champion, but with the money and the injuries and the play and Toronto now, Campbell was not the problem this year. It was not goaltending. Campbell was nice. Campbell was nice. It was nice. But like, that's, that's what you're going to go with. Like,
Starting point is 01:06:42 is that not crazy to you? So here's the deal. Is Matt Murray that good? I don't know. It's just like you're a Stanley Cup. They're a legit Stanley Cup contender. It sounds crazy because they can't get out of the first round. And we're suckers for a comeback story here on the podcast. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:56 I'm not rooting against them. It's just to me, it's like if I'm dubious, I'm like, I can't be. I can't rely on this. So here's the thing. I mentioned this on Twitter yesterday. So here's the thing, fellas, all roads point back up North, Northern Ontario to Sue St. Marie. Yeah. I knew that was going to be it. Come on boys. Dubas is loyal like a dog. Come on boys.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Kyle's grandpa or or yeah, grandpa, I think Kyle Dubas' grandpa, was a part of the Sioux, part ownership, if I'm not mistaken. He was a stick boy. He ended up becoming the GM, Kyle Dubas, in the Sioux. At the time, he hired a former teammate of mine, and Sheldon Keefe as the head coach. At the time, they had a goalie by the name of Matt Murray from Thunder Bay who was playing for them in the zoo and at the time they traded for a guy by the name
Starting point is 01:07:50 of Jack Campbell in this how ironic is this so now everything might become a full circle I think a lot of it with is about familiarity that's a big part of it because they know him they've known him they've seen him since he was a young, you know, a young kid and junior, but also more than the sentimentality, they probably feel that they know him. They feel like they would be able to get the best out of him. If he's healthy and a coach that believes in him and a new opportunity, you asked me how the deal would go down. Ottawa would have to retain.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Ottawa would have to retain probably three sheets to make that happen. Probably 3 million to make it happen is my understanding, but that's what they're working on. I'm not telling you that that's the deal is going to happen. I'm just telling you that a lot of the framework is agreed upon. So it now depends on Matt Murray's health and what, where the Leafs are and how comfortable they are with his health at this time.
Starting point is 01:08:43 You mentioned a little bit other drama in talking about that situation. It just seems like Fleury, the nicest goalie to ever play, always seems to be in the middle of it. So you have Cam Talbot's agent with some pretty fiery words after they re-signed him. And then Bill Guerin with an all-time response. What do you think happens there? Because I can't really see minnesota moving
Starting point is 01:09:05 on without those two guys as their starters to start the season i like that one two punch do they re-up talbot right away or do you think they made him ride it out he's signed yeah correct he's got one year he's got one year at three nine like do they do they come back with it oh i see what you're saying i see what you're saying biz do they come back with it okay let's let's set this in motion because given the market is so thirsty for goaltenders and now all of a sudden you got flurry and then you got tell but with a guy making three nine he not only becomes a very valuable trade piece and or do you end up re-upping him because he's such a good goalie and and sorry a week before you go all right do you want to read the quotes just for people who have it? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:09:45 Yep, I read those earlier today. Yeah, Reeksy, they're fiery. Some people, they're spicy. Some people listening probably know what we're talking about. So R.A. will fill you in on the agent and then Billy G's response. R.A., take your time with it, too. Take your time. Give us some theatrics, Broadway style.
Starting point is 01:10:02 I'll be Billy Garen, R.A. You be the agent. Okay, yeah. The agent had texted to P.L'll be Billy Garrett. All right. You be the agent. Okay. Yeah. The agent had texted to PL up run. We, we both stated oppositions. Billy has a lot to think about.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Billy G replied. I don't have shit to do. Cam Talbot's under control. George can say whatever the hell he wants. My team set right now. And that's the way it goes. So we can have all the discussions we want. Kim's a member of our team.
Starting point is 01:10:26 We really like Kim. All we're trying to do is win. All we're trying to do is have good, strong goaltending, and I think we have that. He said, basically, I don't have shit to do was the crux of the quote, though. I mean, this guy's no Alan Walsh, but, you know, nonetheless trying to stir things up. That was spicy, boy.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Go ahead, Wits. I see you're ready. No, I just think that it's crazy and crazy to think as an agent, and I know you're working for your client, but to think like he has no reason whatsoever to trade you. He does not have to give into anything you want. He doesn't have to give into anything that you think you need. He, as Billy Guerin, I'm saying, is like, I got two very good goalies.
Starting point is 01:11:05 And in the league nowadays, I want that. So sorry, Cam. I know you want to be a full-time starter. I don't give a fuck. That's how I took it. Like, you have no right there. You're signed with the team, exactly how he said at the end. No, those are good points, man.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Here's the thing. So first of all, I love both these guys. I've been huge supporters of both of them for years. When everybody was shitting on Flower, I was always pumping the flower. Even after Matt Murray rose to prominence, I was always going to bat for flower. He's one of the all time great goalies and people in this game. So let's start there. When Cam first came into the league, I got to know Cam in New York.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Great dude as well. Guys, here's the thing. Guys love playing in front of both of those guys. Here's the other thing, boys. Cam was an all-star this year. He was an all-star. Let's be, he was an all-star this year. He had an unreal year. Then they went out and got the flower. Now, remember, Billy G and the flower were together in Pittsburgh. Okay, so relationships, as I said earlier, they matter. I think it was a unique opportunity to get the Flower. I think the Flower is very comfortable in Minnie,
Starting point is 01:12:12 which is why I re-signed there. He liked a lot about being there, the way they treated him and his family. But for Cam, as a competitor, you want to play. You want that net, especially when you were carrying that team for the last year and a half and you're an all-star this year and when you're looking out on the landscape like Christopher Columbus and you're just looking off the boat and you're like okay Washington needs a goalie New York needs a goal sorry Toronto needs a goalie Edmonton needs a goalie I don't know if
Starting point is 01:12:42 I want to go back to Edmonton in his case, in his case, but you know what I'm saying? He's looking through the periscope and he's looking, he's like, okay, what do we got? There's opportunity there. same time, because the market's thirsty, you might be able to get a nice return if you move Talbot now and they have Walsted, their goalie they drafted in the first round, the young Swedish kid a couple years ago. So Walsted's played pro in Sweden. He's an elite young goalie. Throw him in there and let him play 20 or 30 and let the flower play the rest. That's the way I would do it.
Starting point is 01:13:23 I would move Talbot and get a nice return. And he's never gotten that start and goalie payday so if you're sharing the net the whole season it's tough for other teams to maybe evaluate it maybe flower ends up getting the starting role because he out competes him and he's playing more games so tough way to start the year if you're looking to maybe secure that bag and you're saying looking over the landscape all these other guys who are probably even you know maybe half as good as him who are probably going to be making the same amount in free agency. So it should be interesting. And nonetheless, though, many has got their goaltending situation. Many stacked.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Many stacked. Listen, if you're Billy, you're sitting pocket aces right now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You sit in pocket aces the wild if you're a wild fan out there in eden prairie or white bear lake or wherever else out there at mini you got to be you got to be pumped right now knowing that that's your duo if you start the season that way uh weeks yeah i want to bring up a tweet you sent that all monday about david creature here in boston the possibility of him coming back what's the latest on that well i have a little bit of breaking news on that not that a deal has happened yet but i'm told that uh working on a one-year
Starting point is 01:14:28 deal likely a one-year deal with creche so it hasn't come through yet that's the latest that i have for people that are closely involved in the situation and obviously he was at the socks game the other day he was there for that big wedding this weekend, talking to my spies, my people in Beantown. They saw him. Of course, it was on Twitter too. But I think all signs point to him coming back if they can make it work on a one-year deal. Imagine getting some truth serum in him
Starting point is 01:14:56 and hearing what he actually thinks of Bruce Cassidy now that he's coming back. He must have been like, nope, I'm done until he's gone. And then he's gone and we got Krejci back. It's insane. Has that came out as to why he left? I mean, I'd imagine now that he's gone and now he's considering coming back,
Starting point is 01:15:12 it's got to be part of the reason. Weaksy, no? Yeah, that's kind of what I've heard from different players and different people around the league. And Butch Cassidy's an excellent coach. I think he did a really good job. And when he came up from the P Bruins up to the show, I think he did a really good job with that group the biggest challenge not only with him but i think with a lot of coaches
Starting point is 01:15:30 and i've heard you guys say this before players are different today man you know what i mean it's not yo it's not our time it's not it's not us being young guys like i'm 47 i play with guys that are 62 63 same age as my in-laws. Like literally, you know what I mean? Like seriously, like it's so random. That's how old the league was. The league was ancient before old spice, brute 33, Aqua Velva. Some guys are rocking. Talking my language now. CCRA. I was like, yeah, that's me right there, dog. But, but no, it's true.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Like that's how old the league was. You guys know, but now you guys are seeing these kids at bcbu you're out there on the west coast uh biz you're seeing kids that are that played in vancouver whatever now they're in the league you're seeing guys like austin matthews you knew since he was a kid skating with you next thing you know he's in the show lighting it you know what i mean like so've got to find a way to be able to relate to today's players. And I say this all the time. Players are the product. Fans are the customers, but players are the product. You've got to be able to relate to today's players.
Starting point is 01:16:38 That's something that's important for every coach. Weeksie, back to Krejci now. Does he still have to clear waivers when he comes back? I know that they mentioned that last year. And why do they have that rule? If a guy's contract is up he plays overseas why why does he still have to clear waivers coming back to the nhl yeah the re-entry waivers yeah so i guess that's just it's a means of being able to prevent teams from using that loophole okay right because think about that like teams teams could use that loophole pretty regularly if not and you could have a guy that you kind of have a shame man i guess i know you're over there
Starting point is 01:17:09 in sweden you want to come back you know what i'm saying yeah all of a sudden they come back over you and there's no re-entry you can just slide them in as long as you can fit them into your cap so i think it's more of a preventative measure that way but the fact that he's a free agent now and he's completely free he's not under contract from his club team across the pond now he's a complete ufa again um that's my understanding so we saw the big deal um to bring kit goes to ottawa that's got to make it a little easier for them with this claude geroux talk right i mean you hear about that you hear about florida possibility what are you hearing for for the former captain of the Flyers? I was just texting with G, man. Redbeard G the other
Starting point is 01:17:48 day. He's like, Redbeard G is like, Vixie, I have no clue what I'm doing. I believe them too. It's the same thing with Johnny Hockey. I think a lot of these guys are so overwhelmed by the opportunities that are out there now and how many
Starting point is 01:18:04 options that they have that you know what i'm saying it's like being in the show and going to the steakhouse you got the you got the amex and you're like do i want the crab do i want the filet the demonico the lobster like what do i want that's kind of how these guys are now what a house exactly i've never been through it exactly that's right that's like holy shit i haven't even because they all they all re-signed and and it's just like now i'm like holy shit i i do think that the day it sounds so stupid because you're being offered millions and millions of dollars but i do think the day that ufa opens for a lot of people it's hard because you don't totally hard you're
Starting point is 01:18:41 you're panicking you're like it's a win-win no matter what happens. But what if I make the wrong choice? What's going on here? It's just a difficult decision. So guys are probably, and they also know you're coming on checklist. You probably be breaking news. They're not telling you shit right now. Well, that's one of the things he said. He's like, you probably know before me.
Starting point is 01:18:56 I'm like, well, help me know before you. Don't just say that. It's a nice compliment. It's flattering, but help a brother out here. Help me help you help you help me. So basically, yeah, no, he honestly was pretty just unsure of where he's going to go. And I think that's a big part of it too is can he go to Ottawa because he has an off-season home in Ottawa?
Starting point is 01:19:18 Of course. How much better now they get to bring cat who's money? I can't believe Chicago traded him, but that's another combo we'll get into that we'll get into that later sorry for the sorry for the fans that are in shy town right now uh that's a whole different come on they had a dynasty for crying out loud you did deal with a few few years of uh but that's your young but that's your best young player and the way the dynasty ended like that dynasty could have continued to at least be competing. Like talk about just like, it's going back to 06 when I came in the league and there was 4,000 people
Starting point is 01:19:51 there and the games weren't on TV. A hundred percent. People did. Yeah. Like, bro, honestly, it was a cave in there. You saw bats flying around the United center. You saw the MJ statue out front, but then you got inside. You saw the bats flying around.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Adrian Aquin told us he could yell. You saw the MJ statue out front, but then you got inside. You saw the bats flying around. Well, you can see. Yeah. Adrian O'Quinn told us he could yell at his kids in the stands if they're misbehaving when he was on the bench. What a good man Oki is too. Oh, he's the best. Yeah, Oki's class. Hey, you're bringing up a defenseman there. I'd say that the market for D-man is probably the thinnest we've
Starting point is 01:20:25 seen in a long time the only real name that jumps out to you is probably clingberg um in in any any word on where maybe he ends up and maybe some interest on other guys from the back end but as i said it's pretty thin i could read off a few more names manson's a nice manson's gonna be nice he's nice letty ben charotte alex edler ian cole but i mean like these aren't like you know these aren't some massive massive names that are really going to change things around yeah they're not necessarily franchise ones but they're all good in their own way especially manson i remember breaking the deal for him uh this past spring when he got traded in colorado traded for him i literally came up there and broke it outside the building.
Starting point is 01:21:05 I'm like, they're getting a nice piece in him. He can skate, he can handle the biscuit. He's tough. He's long, he's rangy and he can fight. So I think between him and Klingberg, obviously Klingberg, the premier offensive defenseman of all those guys, to your point, where do I see him going? That's a great Klingberg specifically. It's a more complicated one because I see Manson potentially going back to back to Anaheim excuse me yeah I could see I could see him going back there I know he loves it there I know his wife's from there she loves it there so the family tie plus the fact he played there his whole career except for you know this this
Starting point is 01:21:41 stint with Colorado so that remains one to watch because I could see him going back there. As far though as Klingberg, great question. I don't know where I see a team that's thirsty enough to pay him maybe the eight, eight and a half sheets that he wants and that he's earned by way of his production and his skill. I don't know who the fit is right now based on the market now.
Starting point is 01:22:07 And here's what I'll tell you that. Remember, some teams, fellas, some teams aren't going to re-sign their own RFAs, their own restricted free agents. You know what I mean? And some teams might have to move on from some of them as a result too. So if you move on from some RFAs, that opens up some more cap dollars for you.
Starting point is 01:22:24 So I'm curious to see what that could look like for him. But top of mind and in terms of me, you know, working the phones all the time, I've not heard one or even two concrete destinations for Klingberg quite yet. I think that it's been long said Seattle would be a team that would have a ton of interest. said Seattle would be a team that would have a ton of interest. And my thing is, I think, I think it will be a weaker team because the money he wants and he's going to get, I don't think you're paying that to a guy on a cup contending team who probably isn't really saying he's not top four might not be fair,
Starting point is 01:22:57 but he's a straight up power play specialist. And I don't know if you can afford to pay a guy that much on a really deep, good defense that already is going to have money tied up everywhere else. So I think it's going to be a weaker team that, that can spend money and looks to really have a guy just run the power play. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. You're right. Cause you start thinking about any of the, you know, can he go to Washington? They don't need it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:23:19 Yeah. I'm looking at some of those. So much dough and then he's going to want that seven years, I'm sure. Or he's going to push for a seven-year term. So I like your call about Seattle. That makes a lot of sense. They're trying to solidify their group. Maybe you pair him and Vince Dunn on that top PP unit. I could see that.
Starting point is 01:23:38 I could definitely see that. Because aside from that, it's true. Aside from that, and I don't know if you guys top of mind, where else do you see him going? I don't see him going does he go to montreal maybe maybe maybe as another one of those teams one thing about montreal that we know is they've had a long history of having european players in their team too right like certainly since since the late 80s they've always had european players on their team montreal is kind of like a quasi-european vibe city here in north america so that that could be a fit for him they're seattle just spitballing yeah and just going back to that john john gibson
Starting point is 01:24:16 comment about him going over to the leafs now his agent did come out and completely shut that down right yeah i saw that he said that he does not want to go play for the toronto maple he's very happy with anaheim right now so just you hearing that you do you believe it do you think that there's no way he ends up in to i i think so here's the one thing i'm just looking down at my phone to see if there's any news here's the one thing i said this last night i was talking to a club owner a team owner last night here's the one thing that i'll say about pro sports you've got to know how to sell you got to know how to recruit and i'm not saying that any team doesn't i just think a big part and i was talking to an agent last night too a big part of getting players is you got to have relationships man and you got to be able to close. Don't look at
Starting point is 01:25:05 yourself, pardon me, as being an NHL outfit or an NHL organization. Look at yourself as being University of Michigan, BU, Oregon, any of these big schools, Alabama, Nick Saban, and being able to sell people on coming. Do you know what I'm saying? And not only players, but also scouts, trainers, everybody's all a huge part of it. You know, assistant coaches, you need goalie coaches. You got to be able to sell people. And I'm not suggesting that they weren't able to sell John Gibson, but just in general, in the overall thing, especially since free agency is coming on Wednesday in a couple of days, it's really important to be able to sell people to want to come to your organization.
Starting point is 01:25:44 it's really important to be able to sell people to want to come to your organization, make sure that you over deliver on how you treat them, how you treat the families when they're there, the friends when they're there, sometimes there's some special needs. Sometimes there's some unique family situations. There's no salary cap on that part of it. That's all about hospitality and people skills 101. You know what I mean? So I think that the teams that do a really good job of that in any sport that are able to get those free agents or entice trades,
Starting point is 01:26:12 they're light years ahead of other clubs because their ability to sell and to recruit, like they say in college sports. Like the Coyotes. What do you got, Ari? I want to bring up Andre Palat, Tampa Bay forward. I know everybody was assuming that they were saving money to sign him, but it looks like he's going to go to market. I meanat, Tampa Bay forward. I know everybody was assuming that they were, you know, saving money to sign him, but it looks like he's going to go to market. I mean, does Tampa Bay keep this guy?
Starting point is 01:26:29 He was an absolute stud for them and the play. Not just the players this year. I mean, he's kind of been a low key weapon for them for the last few years, but does he stay in Tampa? Honestly, I had something on that last night and I couldn't get it confirmed. And I've been trying all day. I was literally up till five in the morning, which I'm not a real big sleeper, but...
Starting point is 01:26:45 Join the club. Yeah, right, exactly. I wake up, I roll over at like 10, 10 something. I called a couple of people close to it. Nothing to report. I was, what's going on? I need to not pull out. No, we see nothing to confirm.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Can't say no, no, no. So I haven't been able to get it updated, boys. But I heard, I had something on it last night but so far today from people that are close to the situation I can't get any confirmation on it but I love Palat because he's a Swiss army knife player and in the playoffs he's even better than regular season he's a gamer it seems to me though that he's kind of a little bit of a Bill Belichick style thank you so much for everything but we're seeing you as on the back nine i know it sounds crazy for what he's done but if you look at what he's going
Starting point is 01:27:30 to get and like how that team's going to have to really continue to compete moving forward with who's already getting the dough yeah i don't know you know it's it's somebody who you look is it's a depreciating asset as crazy as it sounds it It's a business. And that might be the play there in terms of what he wants. It could be, you're right. Like, and depending on term, right.
Starting point is 01:27:48 So he can go to, obviously they're not going to do eight. I shouldn't speak for them, but I don't think they're going to do the eight years with him. No. So do they do, do they do three or four? I think they would,
Starting point is 01:27:58 I would guess three or four, but he's probably like, I want six. He's like, I want six or seven. Somebody might pay me because we've been, you know because he's been to all those finals with that group. Hey, you know what? Just went to three straight cups.
Starting point is 01:28:13 We won two. Can somebody in the market give me a seven-year or give me a six-year? But here's the one thing, too, is unless he's joining a team that's a legit contender, so is he going to Washington Washington has some space especially with Backstrom being injured with the surgery Tommy Wilson coming off a knee surgery could he go to Washington right I'm just looking at contending teams Boston's going to have a ton of space with the injuries that they have at the start of the year could he go to Beantown I don't know I'm just looking at some of these potential teams that are really
Starting point is 01:28:44 good clubs in the East, not limited to the East. Does Edmonton, if they can't get Evander Kane, do they sign Palat? Would he go to Edmonton? I don't know. But here's the one thing I know if I'm Palat, and I know this Tampa sweet boys.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Yo, Tampa sweet. The body feels nice every day. You're playing for Coop. coop the boys you have an unreal group down there their owner is one of the best in sports no state tax there we go yeah right there's a great spot uh weeks i want to circle back to chicago like you mentioned a few minutes ago like you know i know there's been different gms involved but they're selling pots having a fire sale right now jones is going into his first year of this eight-year deal, $9.5 million a year.
Starting point is 01:29:26 What are they doing in Chicago right now? What the hell is going on with the Blackhawks? I'm going to do what the kids do. You know how kids do that? Oh, no. I don't really know what they're doing there, to be honest. Okay, so if you're trying to strip it down and try to recoup as many assets as possible, like maybe you're going the route of what Arizona has and biz could speak to that more accurately because he's there.
Starting point is 01:29:53 But the challenge is Chicago being the market that it is. And yes, biz made the point earlier that, you know, they won their three cups in this era but the challenge is right now i don't a i don't really know their identity b i don't really know what their plan is and c those two things make it a little bit confusing to me do you know what i'm saying like i'm confused by where they are you've got the great patrick kane gonna go down as the best mark and born player at least i think to this point you got kaner you got taser two legends statues Kane going to go down as the best of Mark and born player. At least I think to this point, you got Kaner, you got Taser, two legends statues are going to be out front of the United center for them when it's over. Have you really communicated the plan to them? Cause you remember when they traded Hagel at trade deadline, they're like, Oh, we're going to talk to them. We're going to talk to them.
Starting point is 01:30:40 And you could tell by Taser's comments that they didn't even talk to him. He was blindsided by it. caner seemed blindsided by it you heard caner's comments the other day when they traded the cat who's his best friend to break it so all that to say fellows i am very confused by what they're doing there i'm hyper confused by what they're doing there i have no idea what's going on in chicago i don't know i don't know what to tell you if i'm a fan there i'm just so so furious i know biz says they had the success but it shouldn't have ended this quickly and this abruptly and when you look and when you look at so bowman is the one who gives seth jones the deal and and and and that's him he's like we
Starting point is 01:31:23 gotta make the playoffs i'm trying to save my job here. New guy comes in. He's like, all right, well, we're completely rebuilding this, but how do you get rid of Seth Jones? Like, do you even want to, he didn't sign up for this really. I mean, he's getting plenty of dose. You have no say anymore, but then the cane and tapes thing it's, it's so bizarre. But if Patrick Kane's playing for the Blackhawks come opening night, I will be beyond shocked beyond because how can he agree to do this and go through with this with with he's still in his prime but it's it's it's not gonna last forever I can't be wasting
Starting point is 01:31:56 years like this unless he loves it he's that loyal and he forever wants to be a hawk but shocking to me if that's the case yeah exactly i agree if listen i can't speak for caner i've spoken to him numerous times i've gotten to know him really well meet his parents he's you know a really good cat matured so much young father he's got father now he's got so much future hall of fame lock i love patty cane i love what he brings to the table game to game day to day bro i've said this just across the hudson as i look out the freaking window get him to nyc oh no i say buffalo i see he's going to save you say he's going back home to buff he's going back home all the sabers fans all the sabers fans are the
Starting point is 01:32:39 are in the anchor bar right now listen to this i just want them to give me hugs when we show up to buffalo in two weeks for the next week hey well make sure you go to anchor bar when you're there make sure you go to lenovo everybody always cracks on me but i love lenovo pizza and wings there or the anchor bar there the original home of the buffalo wing all that to say it would be incredible if he gets traded back home incredible like that's that's stuff of hollywood for sure that's rumor boy stuff though nyc i'm with you to see him on broadway him on broad day his name on the marquee out front of the garden you kidding me all the taxis going nuts blurring the horns people walking up to the garden fans coming from everywhere coming up under penn station coming through the manhole the sewer
Starting point is 01:33:22 covers and everything what like the Like the Nerds Turtles? Bro, I think that'd be fire if Patty Kane signs and gets traded, excuse me, to the Rangers. But of course, they've got to move some money around, but they're not going to be resigning Strom. But also remember, Patty Kane, Panarin, and Artie Anissimov were the best line in the National League when they were together in Chicago.
Starting point is 01:33:45 So uniting him with Kaner, and Kaner generates offense like a center, even though he's a winger anyways. So I think he'd be sick here in New York. Another name I want to bring up, we see Mike Greer was named GM of the San Jose Sharks, first black GM in NHL history. Kudos to him, a hell of an accomplishment. What do you think some of the ripple effects of that will be like having a black GM in an office?
Starting point is 01:34:06 What are some of the ripple effects you'll see with not only the Sharks, but maybe with other organizations going forward? First of all, Whit, thank you so much for getting me Grizzly's number. First of all, so thank you for that. You're kind enough to share that. And, you know, I've been speaking about it the last three days. It's almost, you can almost get emotional talking about it because it's so monumental for our sport. And the fact that he's the first one and he's made it happen.
Starting point is 01:34:30 As I said, I've been saying, I'll say it again. It's like a man landing on the moon, really. It is because we've never seen it in 105 years in NHL hockey. It seemed even for me and interviewing for some of these positions as i talked to you guys about last time it seemed that and seems uh that it's always well we're not sure well maybe well you might well yeah and in this case you had somebody in chris drury so props to drew because they're boys too from from bu and beanown. And Drew co-signed for him. Drew's like, yo, man, you're in our organization.
Starting point is 01:35:07 I want you here in our organization with the Rangers. And of course, you had to know that Drew co-signed for him getting the job in San Jose. So props to Drew and his open-mindedness too. He's done an amazing job in New York, of course. And then for Griersy to go there to San Jose and ultimately get the job, what I think it does is it kind of legitimizes and not that it should,
Starting point is 01:35:28 because obviously we have the hockey. We're not coming from auto parts and working at Pep Boys. All of a sudden we're like, hey, can we run an NHL team? Hey, can we, you know what I'm saying? Like it's been, for me, I've been in the sport for 41 years. Like I'm kind of a subject matter expert right and the same thing for you guys and for him but it it really legitimizes that for him to have earned this opportunity and it gives a lot of credibility and I think also
Starting point is 01:35:57 for the people that might have been a little bit scared or a little bit unsure or maybe even on the continuum more over on the side of being closed-minded or racist. I think this is open-minded material for them to say, hey, man, San Jose did it. Mike Greer's a great guy. He's earned this. Amazing to see for the league. And maybe it's something that we can do as a franchise too.
Starting point is 01:36:23 So I don't think he's the first. I don't know that he's going to be the last but I hope with him opening that door I hope that opens the door because here's the thing with you guys too and I've told you guys this with your pod you guys don't know the reach that you have and the impact it has on people do you know what I'm saying like I went you know I've told you in a biz I think I told you this in Miami my father-in-law's got pink Whitney and he has it in the freezer at our house in Miami and he's from Fort Capel in Saskatchewan they live in Calgary now they're at our when they're at our place in Miami or their place in Key Biscayne they've got frozen pink Whitney there so you never know the impact of what you're doing and how that impacts other
Starting point is 01:37:05 people and i think it's the same thing with grizzly not only for people that look like us or on on our part of the color wheel but in general it just opens possibilities to everybody and it opens hearts and minds i think it's amazing that's awesome well we see you know you might be the next black black person to be a gm in theL, and then you're going to be motherfucking all these insiders like yourself who are breaking trades before you can tell one of your guys. No, he'll still be doing the videos, but just for his own team. Exactly. He'll have a fucking mask going behind him.
Starting point is 01:37:38 It's not weak. That's how he's going to break it to the guy's agents and his own guys on his team. That would be fire. Pack your shit, just like Commie would say. Get the fuck out of here. That would be fire. That would be fire, though.
Starting point is 01:37:54 I know we touched on it earlier about how you started these videos. Is there a possibility that you break something on our podcast here today? Is there anything in your phone that has not been released to the public that you could share with our following yeah the the closest one the closest one right now is the creche to bean town i'm told it looks like it's going to be a one-year deal that's what's on the table right now it seems like it's close they're working really hard on it to bring them back to boston right now as far as the palat one i'm working on something there but nothing official on palat right now okay so those are the two hottest ones that i have in the hopper right now and i don't
Starting point is 01:38:35 think and then i'm sorry and sorry i mentioned this on twitter but i'll say it on here since since i'm on with you guys and the crew doug wilson., the San Jose Sharks have moved on from Doug Wilson Jr., who was their director of scouting there in San Jose. So they've moved on. They've relieved him of his duties. And that's rather breaking. I think I put it out like an hour ago, but that's some off-ice news to report.
Starting point is 01:38:59 And, I mean, he does have his work cut out for him too, Grazy, with the situation. That was odd the way they waited so long. I mean, they knew they were bringing a new GM, but then they wait this long, then fire the coaches. And it just, it's a place that needs some cleaning up. Huh? Yeah, it does need cleaning up from that standpoint. And look, man, I always say this, right. We're in the people business. I think a lot of times people forget that and we're not, you know,
Starting point is 01:39:20 we're not coal, we're not oil, we're not whatever. And in any business, there's an element of people, but especially in the world of sports. This starts for kids and families that are freaking novice, man. Squirts, peewee, Adam. You know what I mean? This isn't just out of left field. And even at the show level, you got to treat people properly. I'm a big proponent of that.
Starting point is 01:39:41 I always said that. And I try to do that every day. I was raised that way. But we're in the people business. And people lose that touch and some organizations lose that feel and look man people talk that's the hard part you guys know the boys are always talking you know what I mean it's the same thing in ladies hockey I hear it all the time I've been different ladies when they come into work with us whether it's Hillary Knight whether it's so and so whether it's so and so hey what's going on what's going on kendall coin hey what's going on casey what's
Starting point is 01:40:08 going on on the u.s women's team what's that you know what i mean we all talk that's how it goes so you got to treat people properly and i love your point i think grizzy i think anyway i think he'll do a much better job of that with him having been in the league as long as he has all right any other any other names people want to follow? People who are listening to the pod won't understand what I'm talking about, but those masks behind you, are they all from former goalies? Yeah, yeah. The one on the right there looks like a Ron Hextall or something?
Starting point is 01:40:38 Yeah, they're all former goalies. That's the Bernie Perrant. I've got Bunny LaRock, Ken Dryden, Wayne Thomas, New York, that's the Bernie Perrant I got Bunny LaRock Ken Dryden Wayne Thomas New York uh Jilly Gilbert Wayne Thomas Toronto Kenny Dryden Jules Gritton down behind me and some more are on order so we're just getting it set up right now but you know I grew up it's cool because this part of our basement like where I'm at is kind of like main rec room over here and then some gym equipment on the left side and then the other gym and other stuff back that way. But the cool part about it is, is, you know, when I see these, when I see these every day, it just kind of reminds me of where I've come from, you know, and where I started and just like
Starting point is 01:41:16 the hope and the dream and dreaming big and wanting to do something big and playing the show and make the show and, and live my dream and help my family and take my family to the something big and play in the show and make the show and and live my dream and help my family and take my family to the next level and all those amazing things and have fun and do your life's work so i think that's a big part of it for the pod boys where you know for a lot of our listeners that are out there and a lot of the amazing fans as i told you guys there's people that are going to be tuned into this in rome in athens greece in athens Georgia, Mini, Canmore, whatever, BC, Dallas, Arizona, you name it, right? Like people, and I'm not saying this to be whatever,
Starting point is 01:41:53 there's probably some hockey fans that are in the Ukraine that are probably even listening to this. You know what I'm saying? Like to put it in perspective. So I never like to lose sight of those things and, you know, the journey and where you've come from.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Everything to me, I echo Gretz, everything that my family and I have, I owe to the game. Do you know what I'm saying? So I always try to keep that, that perspective and be real about that. So anytime I see these, it's always just like, yeah, that's the kid that was collecting hockey cards and playing road hockey and just dreaming of doing big things, especially even though you didn't look like a lot of the guys that were
Starting point is 01:42:26 playing, but the dream was so big that, and I had the great support that really pushed me to go beyond that. So that's a big part of it. Well said. Thanks boys. Thank you. We appreciate you coming on as always keep breaking news and we'll be, we'll be watching out for these free agent news, breaking coming from you in a barber chair or on the subway.
Starting point is 01:42:49 Who knows where it's coming from. Fixing the furnace down in the basement. If I fix the furnace in the basement, the house is going to burn down. You better edit that out of the pod. Our insurance company is going to be like, who's this Muppet with four left hands trying to fix this thing? Thanks, boys. I appreciate you, man. Always a pleasure with four left hands trying to fix this thing. Thanks, boys. I appreciate you, man. Always a pleasure, Weeksy.
Starting point is 01:43:08 Our pleasure, buddy. Love you, boys. Keep up the great work, man. You guys are crushing. Huge thanks to Weeksy for joining us, man. He's the best. Love having him on. Great guy to chat with.
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Starting point is 01:44:00 Share a Labatt. Don't have to twist my arm to share a Labatt. Stuff is awesome. If you're not drinking it, you should get on it. Dynamite beer. All right. We talked a week, see about a bunch of free agent stuff. What's going on. We've got to circle back to the Blackhawks. We did mention the Kirby doc. I don't think we really got into the Debrinkit stuff too much.
Starting point is 01:44:16 They did send their sniper Alex Debrinkit to Ottawa for Ottawa's first this year, which was number seven overall second rounder. And the third rounder in 2024 i mean to bring it he's 24 years old heading into the final year of his deal that carries a 6.4 million dollar cap with a nine million dollar salary he's going to be restricted after that but assuming he re-ups in cal uh ottawa boys i'll go to you first with did the sense get did the sense swindle the hawks here or what on this deal it seems so i I just, the years he had 241 goal seasons and like the ability he has to score and create.
Starting point is 01:44:51 And I mean, what they gave up in picks, right? You just hope you would easily trade those to maybe get one player in the draft, right? If you had those three picks, you're hoping for maybe maybe a player like like to bring it and now it's just like Chicago is so confusing I know we just talked about it with Weeksy but it's like how pissed off are you if you're a fan of that team if you're on that team and a core and a core player and now you lose a guy who granted obviously they either didn't want
Starting point is 01:45:23 to resign him couldn couldn't resign. And they're looking at the organization and now you see, all right, well, this is full blown, blow it up. Awful, awful asset, asset management leading up to all of this. And now you just lose a guy who's really kind of become one of the best goal scorers. I mean, I guess you could say in the league, I mean, he's not the greatest goal scorer in the league, but when you think of guys who can just put it in the net,
Starting point is 01:45:48 Ottawa stole him. They just grabbed him from Chicago. And when I saw the trade, I wondered if there'd be players in return. You just see the picks. You're like, just stuck shaking your head the same way we talked about it. What do you got? I'm like, maybe Patrick Kane was considering ending his career as a Chicago Blackhawk, but they're just trying to get rid of any type of player
Starting point is 01:46:10 that he might want to play with to piss him off to eventually waive his no-move clause. Wow. 100%. Yeah, not a bad theory at all. We're going to get so fucking bad that you don't want to play here, and you're going to waive your no-move clause so they can get a return for him and taves and they can really start from scratch now you guys mentioned it but it wasn't it wasn't really the guys in charge who did it was the move to get seth jones over that's the last one that's going to hurt you and i have a
Starting point is 01:46:39 hard time believing that they're going to get rid of that contract because if i'm not mistaken it wasn't the current gm who signed him to that deal, was it? It was Bowman. It was Stan Bowman. I feel like everyone's really focusing on Chicago here. While Ottawa's kind of building a sneaky good roster here. I mean, Brady Kachuk, Tim Stutzel, Josh Norris, Alex Dabrinkit, Drake Batherson, Jake Sanderson, Thomas Chabot.
Starting point is 01:47:01 Like they're building something here. Absolutely. They just try to find a contender. R.A.'s going to bet him to win the cup again. Fuck yeah. anderson thomas chabot like they they're they're building something here absolutely they can still just try to find that tender yeah r.a is gonna bet him to win the cup again yeah i can hit issues uh the hawks also acquired goalie peter marazic and toronto's first pick this year number 25 overall uh for chicago's second round pick uh the leafs shed three and a half 3.8 million dollars in salary they had to give up their first but it was only really a 13-pick difference. It was more or less a salary dump.
Starting point is 01:47:28 Mrazek, right now, the only signed goalie on the Chicago roster. He's got two more years left at $3.8 million. So, like I said, who knows what this team is doing. We just talked a week about it. But moving right along here, we're going to go over to Philadelphia. They traded for Tony D'Angelo's rights from Carolina, and then they signed the defenseman to a two-year, $10 million deal. He will be unrestricted when the deal expires.
Starting point is 01:47:48 Now, Philly got a seventh back with Tony D'Angelo, but they also gave up a fourth this year, a third next year, and a second the following year. Now, he was going to be a restricted free agent, but did Philly still pay too much just for the negotiations? And in the fact that they only locked him in for two years, I'll be honest, guys. I thought after the season he had,
Starting point is 01:48:06 despite maybe the issues that have gone on in the past, that he was going to get a long-term deal, which with his play, I think he deserved it. But maybe with what happened, he doesn't have much leverage. But for Philly to just go out and give up those picks in order to sign him when not waiting, I don't know. Maybe they thought that they didn't want to – like you would think that D'Angelo would know
Starting point is 01:48:29 if he would have had better options, I guess, by now in free agency, but maybe not enough people were calling and they want to stay away from him where that was the only thing that he could muster up was $10 million over two years. Now, you got to be shocked at the amount that he got. Yeah, I did. But I remember at one point in the year,
Starting point is 01:48:48 I think you did mention about a huge payday and a long-term deal he'd get. Gee, you can look it up. I think I said, I don't think so. And there's just a kind of, there's a thought about him around the league where it's hard to commit really long-term to him. It has nothing to do with his play. What a season. he had 51 points in 60 games or 64 games whatever he was so good
Starting point is 01:49:11 with the puck offensively he had a great playoff too and i just think that after what he's been through it teams aren't going to commit long term so it sucks for him to have to continue to have to prove himself year after year which you do have to do to play in the nhl and earn your money but i i just i kind of saw this coming it's like i do think though that kevin hayes brought up how great of a teammate he is and you ask a lot of guys that have played with them they love them and so i think then obviously there was a reporter who said well don't don't forget kevin hayes follows barstool Sports. It's like, all right, here we go. And then she deactivated her account, of course. I won't even say her name, absolute clown.
Starting point is 01:49:50 But people love him in the room, and he plays with passion, and that's why it's one thing. How's he going to fit in with Torts? I bet you Torts loves him. I'm sure there'll be times Torts gets furious, right, when he's screaming at the ref and his temper takes over on the ice occasionally, but he competes. So when you look at a guy that Torts once on his team, he's a competitor.
Starting point is 01:50:08 He's great with the puck and run the power play. And now, you know, you're seeing Philly try to turn things around. And that's a guy who will at least bring energy to every single night. Yeah. Plus he can kill it there for two years and then he's unrestricted, man. If he, if he does, if he didn't Philly this next two years, when he just didn't Carolina, man, he'd be looking at it. Then he's getting an absolute payday. And then I think he'll only be 28 too. And if he
Starting point is 01:50:31 kind of keeps his nose clean and behaves, I think he'll get further away from those issues or reputation or whatever you want to call it. I think the first one back in juniors, yeah, that was a long time ago. He seems to have made amends or have remorse about it. He was a good citizen in Carolina. I know there were concerns when he got there among some of the fan base but you know the guys he's he's behaved since then so you can't
Starting point is 01:50:52 you can't fucking uh crucify the guy forever he's been well behaved and if he continues to do that he'll make a lot more money all right moving to colorado we did talk about um george ev uh with weeks he he actually signed a three year 10.2 million deal, $3.4 million a year. It's a nice price for Colorado. They did trade the Rangers, their third and fifth-round picks this year and a third next year for the exclusive negotiating rights. But it seems like Colorado, they didn't really have any problems letting Kemper go, Biss.
Starting point is 01:51:20 They're just like, all right, thanks for the cup, but we think we can adequately replace you. I think with the way that they defend and they drive offense that if you get above average goaltending they have another chance to win another cup next year and and probably for more years to follow so with with what francois was able to do when kemper did go down in playoffs maybe that allowed him to just understand that hey we could we can move on from this guy we can lock in the you know the guys up front who can keep driving and and we can move on and still compete so i was surprised i thought that they were going to try to get something done but with with where kemper's at and i'm sure where his agent knows the market is i think he's like hey you got your cup you did a hell of a job. You battled through the eye injury. Now let's go get you some generational wealth,
Starting point is 01:52:07 which as you saw during the interview with Weeksy, it's slim pickings when it comes to goaltending. It is slim, slim pickings. And if I'm Darcy Kemper, where do you think the landing spot is, guys? I know that Washington has a very small window here to win another stanley cup they just didn't have the goaltending that they needed um and who else went who do you i would
Starting point is 01:52:31 love i would love to know what edmonton would be willing to offer darcy kemper and now now money's obviously an issue in edmonton up up against the cap at times but i i mean they need a goalie dude right i mean you're you're legit calling him tomorrow and just saying like this is what we have this is what we need so so considering we're on to edmonton a very similar situation with um uh that philly just had with locken and tony d'angelo where i'm hearing evander kane uh three years at 4.25 out of Edmonton. That was their offer, right?
Starting point is 01:53:07 That was their offer. And, you know, maybe with some of the things that have gone on in the past, there's another superstar-style player that can't really look at longevity as an option unless somebody else comes in over the top. And with goaltending, Jack Campbell's name did pop up for Edmonton. Obviously, he wants a pay raise based on what he was making the last couple years, but there's no way he'd be near what Darcy Kemper's making. Who would you rather?
Starting point is 01:53:35 Well, I would rather have Darcy Kemper, but if you're talking about what they're probably potentially going to earn, I'd rather have Jack Campbell. You think that Kemper's going to make that much more than Campbell? I think that Jack Campbell would get a deal about four years times 4 million. And I think that Darcy Kemper is probably looking at six years times six. Okay. So, yes.
Starting point is 01:53:58 I know what you're saying. I think in terms of money, then, if that would be the contract scenario, I'd rather edmonton get campbell yeah and and with with edmonton you're you have a lot of areas to address where you know you're talking about colorado yeah you just got to find a competent goaltender but edmonton you need to you know you need to edit the defenseman you got to make sure you lock in probably a couple more forwards and of course a goaltender so you can't really snap a lot of money around to one position. You got to be smart about how you handle things.
Starting point is 01:54:29 So let's see how Ken Holland's able to weasel his way through this free agency because, guys, I think this is coming – moving forward, this is the most pivotal year as far as McDavid and Dreisaitl. If they take a step back and don't reach to where they got this year, the conference finals, at some point, you got to think these guys want to move on and go win somewhere else. No? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:53 If they were to make another run, yeah, if you lost in the second round, like, in a bad way, yeah, if they got to the conference finals, again, that'd be legit. I just – I know what you're saying, though. It's like, all right, if they were to ever take a step back and then they're like fighting to get into playoffs then you're looking at like holy shit will this ever change well you're you're losing your best goal score based on games played and what he was able to accomplish uh you're losing duncan keith because he just announced his retirement and the goaltending is still a
Starting point is 01:55:24 question mark so i think that there's a lot of issues to address in edmonton despite how much quote-unquote at least they have some money though with with cassie and gone and keith retirement there is some money there and the cane situation is just so different because having this success there i think any other time a guy's really looking i'll play with conor mcdavid i'm playing with leon like but he just the financial problems he literally needs to take the highest amount of money he gets is that crazy to say like i'm assuming he's at the point where it's like i need to make money back so whoever gives me the most i'm going there uh yeah you mentioned the cassian deal they sent him
Starting point is 01:56:03 to arizona for uh for picks the 31 year old Cass and he's still got two more years left a 3.2 million dollar cap hit so yeah that's that's significant though and while you mentioned um Duncan Keith you might as well give him his props right now where he's retiring so congrats to Edmonton defenseman Duncan Keith three cups two Norris trophies and a con smith uh he had a year left at 5.5 million dollars on the table I mean that's that's a significant amount of money to leave there but you know do you think what he you know like we said before the guy's a legend awesome player but you think it was the case of his play kind of slipping below his maybe his own standards and just like maybe doesn't feel like he wants
Starting point is 01:56:38 that money if he's not playing to that level or am i i don't know i don't even think it's fair actually i feel as a former player, to even try to go into why he decided it was time. I do really want to talk to him again because I think we chatted with him the time we interviewed him about him coming on after retirement and how much more he'd maybe be willing to chat about. And I might be misremembering that,
Starting point is 01:57:00 but I don't want to say, because yeah, maybe his play took a step back over the last couple of couple years but he still played big minutes and he was huge for the locker room in terms of they did get to the conference finals they got work but I mean I I can't I can't imagine that he didn't give some serious wisdom to these guys on what it takes to win and they weren't able to get it done but at least him being there that year you saw a professional who's going to be in the hall of fame who's won three cups and can at least show a team what it takes day in day out throughout the long grind of 82 games so i i you gotta shout him out i mean the career he had is so remarkable and and looking at a guy who was always undersized and wasn't given enough credit when he was younger he
Starting point is 01:57:42 went to michigan state quick then he goes to whl and boom plays a little bit in the ahl gets the nhl i was like holy shit i don't even think the blackhawks knew what they were getting when they drafted him i think it was second round i got drafted in front of duncan keith you want to fucking throw up dude so um yeah congratulations i mean that that's a first ballot hall of famer and and to see him shut it down it's like wow you you realize everything comes to an end because the run he had it looked like it'd never end and the oil is free up five and a half million there but interestingly chicago gets whacked for that cap recapture penalty because they actually spend a deal so they're gonna get whacked five and a half million this year and then
Starting point is 01:58:19 just under two million next year but given the state of the blackhawks right now that might actually help them get to the salary cap floor. So I don't think they're crying in their beer about it. They're just crazy how much that franchise is. It's going to be nuts. They probably told them that they'd fucking pay them on the side just to get it up. It's going to be nuts to see Chicago just United Center just empty. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:41 It's just it's actually going. I know I said this with weeks he like playing there was something else it was like being in the ahl again in a great big old barn and now it's heading back that way and it's just wild how all it how it all ended so quick they gotta do they gotta do about four jersey retirements next year just to make sure they sell enough tickets oh yeah or make or make like nine different jerseys. Like, we're wearing our alternate, alternate, alternate home red tonight. Please come on down. We'll give you some free popcorn and a Duncan Keith bobblehead
Starting point is 01:59:10 in an Oilers jersey. They'd pre-ordered them for next year. They're like, ah. Oh, shit. No, all the Debrinket bobbleheads are just like in the river now. The Detroit Red Wings went out and got themselves another goalie when Stevie Wye sent a third round pick to the Blues for Avili Huso, then extended him with a three-year deal worth just over $14 million.
Starting point is 01:59:34 Comes out to under a little $5 million a year. He'll join Alex Nadelkovich in the crease. Considering the lack of goalies available in the year he had last year, did the price seem kind of low to you, Whit? That was a fucking steal. Steal by Stevie stevie why and the way it works out perfectly is i'm sorry all right what is nadalkovich he's got two more years i believe so yeah so so like biz you saw the monster in edmonton during your amazing pre-game speech it all set it all sets up for when he's going to be ready to probably take over than that so i mean husso was so good
Starting point is 02:00:04 this year that you wonder i mean huso was so good this year that you wonder i mean st louis is probably bummed to see him go and they have bennington signed already but what a what a great bargain and we actually thought nadelkovich was such a steal by eisenman last offseason and then now he brings in huso so just sick work by detroit who granelli talks about ottawa building something detroit look out these next year or two i don't know about this year but we we talked to Sider, and he mentioned, here we go. Yeah, actually, Nadelkovich, this is the last year
Starting point is 02:00:30 of the two-year deal he signed, so he'll be UFA after this year. So also, too, the Wings brought in Bob Bugner as an associate coach to Derek Allende and Alex Westland as their goaltending coach. So good luck to those guys. The Devils acquired goalie Vitek Vanacek in a second rounder from the Caps for second and third round picks. The pending RFA made just over 700 grand last year.
Starting point is 02:00:51 As of press time, I don't believe he had signed with them yet, but you can assume he's gonna, he'll be joining McKenzie Blackwood in the crease there. Let's see Nashville. They sent pending restricted free agent Luke Coonan to San Jose for forward John Leonard in a third rounder at 23. Coonan made $2.3 million in the last couple of years. Leonard's going to be an RFA and peak at, let's see, 15 points in 58 games played over the last two seasons.
Starting point is 02:01:16 Now, of course, the Preds needed to save some dough to keep one of their big guns, and they were able to do just that because Philip Forsberg and the Preds were able to hammer out a deal that'll keep him in Smashville. He was on his bachelor party this weekend, so he couldn't do the official signing, but it's an eight year, $68 million deal, eight and a half million dollar cap pit. I know there was some talk about them not getting,
Starting point is 02:01:36 be able to get to a middle point, but apparently they did a business. Is this about where you expected Forsberg to come in at 8.5 mil? Yeah, it's where I expected it I I think that it's it's it's high but you know that's that's what the the market and that's where it says he is so good last year I know yeah he had such a big year at the right time and and and I tell you what that that team with what they've done they're gonna have a chance to compete for a few more years here uh so yeah I'm happy for the guy and i know that they wanted to keep the guy who who's been there most of his career did he did he play at all in wash or did they get rid of him before
Starting point is 02:02:12 okay so he got there and he's played his whole career there so yeah i'm happy that they got to keep him i just think that the price was a little bit high i i was surprised that like once they didn't sign him and then it's like all right we're gonna trade him at the deadline once they didn't sign him and then it's like, are we going to trade him at the deadline? Then they didn't trade him. I didn't think he was definitely gone. But for the deal to end up being that, I almost think that Nashville was lowballing him earlier
Starting point is 02:02:34 and then finally agreed to pay him because this is probably what he was looking for the entire time. And they wouldn't re-sign him during the season when they were talking about trying to get this done before the deadline. So maybe a change of heart by Nashville ownership, maybe a change of heart by nashville ownership maybe a change of heart by forestberg in terms of not wanting to test the market i mean i've said this a long time it's like playing in nashville is top notch everyone asked me where would you want to play if you could ever play somewhere in the nhl nashville's in my top five the city is amazing the fans are out unreal the team's consistent
Starting point is 02:03:05 every single season and so I think when you think about testing UFA and actually having the chance to move it's like holy shit do I want to leave here though great weather all year round so good for the Preds fans to not lose a guy who's been there his entire career and because you're right I mean it is a lot because he can go hot and cold but just coming off this past season it was just a no-brainer he's gonna well yeah between between him dushane and uh and johansson or is it joe hansen joe hansen i call him joe hansen that's just a lot of money up front right so uh luckily they got some uh they got some young studs in that roster who can contribute not making as much but those paydays are going to come pretty soon you saw the the one rookie they had fuck guys my brain is legit
Starting point is 02:03:50 shutting down you know and uh but hey they got mcdonough now the brain is legit shutting down shutting down it's like it's like it's like when your phone goes slow right before it's gonna die you know how the phone starts like you can't send a text boom dead biz right now is just blinking don't ask me another goddamn thing i'm just here to hang out all right the wet dogs are man man what's up yeah oh nothing all right they're gonna say something i'll say how long has it been since your last haircut obviously not too long for myself here well it might be time to head to sport clips they've just developed a brand new super relaxing signature scent on their perfectly steamed hot towel. It's been formulated specifically to bring the relaxation of the MVP haircut experience up to another level.
Starting point is 02:04:33 It's something that you have to smell to believe. Make sure when you go in there, you ask your stylist for the MVP experience. Not only will you get to try that new scent, but you'll get the seven-aging shampoo as well smell like an mvp go to sport clips the pros and men's hair get that salad taken care of look good take it down a dub like myself is i know we talked about many many with weeks he just uh give a couple numbers they were able to bring the file back it was a two-year seven million dollar deal comes out to three and a half million um so just to get that numbers up yeah get those numbers out here also let's see the extended defenseman jacob middleton with the three year 7.35 million dollar deal uh just under two and a half million dollar yeah that was a nice little pickup they made last year this kid kind
Starting point is 02:05:18 of come out of nowhere man now he's making himself some dough nice little story there i love it funny yeah funny bastard with the no teeth and stuff. I'd like to get him on the pod to chat with him. Yeah. Yeah. Great. I like DM him. And yeah,
Starting point is 02:05:30 also to the Caprizov stuff. We didn't bring this up, but we see according to Mike Russo, by the way, terrific reporter. He gets all the scoops with this stuff. Apparently Caprizov twice tried to return to the United States, but he couldn't clear into customs.
Starting point is 02:05:43 First, he tried to leave from Dubai. Then I guess he tried to go through the Caribbean. And Russo seems to think it's because he doesn't currently have a work visa. Last year, they got a waiver for these guys. So I guess it's a problem for him this year. And then as for the military stuff about him supposedly having a fake ID, again, you don't know what to believe when it's coming from that portion of the world.
Starting point is 02:06:01 Nothing's been confirmed. By that, I mean Russia. Nothing's been by by that i mean russia nothing's been confirmed uh russo source said that he's not concerned that kaprizov could be forced to stay in russia unless it came from one guy the asshole up top i'm talking about putin he doesn't seem to think there's going to be a problem unless putin decides to you know fuck with these guys which certainly isn't out of the realm of possibility because he's a psychopath but also uh you know you don't know what to believe so right now kaprizov he's a psychopath. But also, you know, you don't know what to believe. So right now, Kaprizov is going to get back in the country, but it seems to be more of a work visa thing.
Starting point is 02:06:28 Just weird shit, weird stories, and we'll keep our eye on it. But when you're dealing with Russia. You mentioned that they all got a waiver last year. It was just because everything at the embassy was backed up and they couldn't get them. So the league decided, hey, everybody from overseas who hasn't gotten clearance yet, they can come over here this year until they can get it figured out next year when things calm down and life is back to normal so that's pretty much why he's in this predicament
Starting point is 02:06:53 did you mention how he flew over to Dubai and then of course um yeah yeah he tried to try Dubai and then the Caribbean and and the other thing as far as the military I mean he already delayed coming to the NHL once he re-upped with Sisker, I believe, four years ago. So that's some players. That's your military obligation. Sisker, it's still the Red Army team. So, again, you deal with a fucking psychopath dictator who can do what he wants. And there's all kinds of moving parts here.
Starting point is 02:07:16 So hopefully all those guys can get over here. But it's a scary time for those guys and for teams who have the rights for these guys. It's a fucked up situation. Well, I know some like joked about it but even at the draft like some people now staying away from russian players or at least making investments in them in the higher rounds because of the fear of whether they can even come over here and play and what's going to happen here in the future so really sucks for some of these kids and hopefully they're able to resolve it all yeah because they've done nothing wrong. You know, they just stay, they grew up in a land with a fucked up leader. So, all right.
Starting point is 02:07:50 The LA Kings locked up one of their core guys. They signed Adrian Kempe to a four year, $22 million deal. He's got a modified no trade cause for the last two years, career high, 35 goals to go on with along with 19 assists in 78 games last year. What does sound about right? Five and a half mil. Stricted guy. 78 games last year. What does sound about right? Five and a half mils. Yeah. Stricted guy.
Starting point is 02:08:06 Nice yell last year. Yeah. I think that, you know, if he continues to show that type of goal scoring ability, he's going to get a big payday in a few years. And in the playoffs, that first round against Edmonton, he was phenomenal. I mean, he's got sick wheels. He can score.
Starting point is 02:08:19 And LA, another team, right? Let's keep watching because this year was a surprise. And I know, R.A., you were still upset about the coach of the year, the Jack Adams, not going to your man who you put a big bet on. I think L.A. is only going to look better next year. And I think that he's a big reason that that all happened is Kempe. We mentioned Chris Letang, talking to Weeksie as well. Sixth year, $ 36.6 million dollar
Starting point is 02:08:46 deal uh full no move clause a wit like as a 35 year old guy were you surprised at the length of the deal that latang got just you know figured they want to keep him out for a couple but six years i know um he but biz said like he still plays at a very high level it's just about i mean 35 like you're going to 41 is there still like that recapture penalty that we're talking about with Duncan Keith? Could they still get hit with that if you were ever retire? Like, how does that work? Do they still have that? It's one of those over 35 contracts.
Starting point is 02:09:13 I know they had that rule before. I know they've amended it. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not 100% sure on how that works. But yeah, that's a, that's a huge risk if he does. I'm guessing they don't because I'd be surprised. I don't think they give a flying fuck what's going to happen in four or five years when it's more than likely that Crosby, Malkin, for sure now, and Letang are going to be there.
Starting point is 02:09:35 There's going to be a rebuild, and they might even need that cap hit to get to the floor, as you just mentioned, with the Chicago situation. All right, one last sign to hit. Columbus locked up defenseman Adam Boatwist with a three-year $7.8 million deal. Comes out to $2.6 million a year. And Mr. Grinelli, what did you have for us, my friend? So I just saw this tweet from David Pagnotta, and it says, if Johnny Goudreau hits the open market Wednesday as a UFA,
Starting point is 02:10:00 I'm told the New York Islanders will be one of the teams to competitively pursue him. What do you guys think of that? I think that that would be amazing. And I think that... Did I not say they're one player away? They're one player away from getting over the hump. I think the Islanders are going to have
Starting point is 02:10:19 an insane bounce back year. I say easily conference finals for them. Oh, they were my cup chain they were my cup pick and they i would sniff the playoffs but that was a that was a bullshit season i still just can't believe the coaching situation and and a nice one-two punch with maddie bozzell oh you never know what's gonna happen with him right so you gotta solidify that middle of the eyes i don't know but but from it just sounds like jersey and islanders he wouldn't be on the team but we're hearing different things but so who knows i can't wait to see how this breaks down i'm going to jersey going to the devil i'm gonna
Starting point is 02:10:57 guess carol i'm gonna guess carolina is where he ends up for the mentioned reasons we mentioned earlier uh one last league note the season is going going to kick off Friday, October 7th in Prague as the Sharks and Preds battle. Then they're going to play again on the 8th. And then Tuesday, the 11th, the North American portion of the schedule will start with a pair of games. And the season will end on April 13th. So we're kind of back to that sort of normal NHL schedule once again.
Starting point is 02:11:21 There should be no games in June. I know. It'll never happen. Or July, excuse me in july in july i agree with you there buddy all right there are no games in july all right guys what do we got left here before my brain i almost yeah before we get to the final portion of the program i want to talk to you about skrill for a sec skrill is the best digital wallet for gamblers because it was built for gamblers sophisticated Sophisticated gamblers like to use
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Starting point is 02:12:26 Check it out, skrill.com slash barstool all right boys uh a few other notes here before we wrap up uh man i was talking to whip before we started we got a rip to some um mob movie and tv show legends man james khan played sunny from the godfather absolute legend legend of the screen. He died at 82. And then a day later, Tony Sirico, who played Pauly Walnuts from The Sopranos, died at 79 years old. And, of course, Ray Liotta died a few weeks back from Goodfellas. It's just crazy that actors portraying three of the most vital characters and three of the most vital mob movies and TV shows in American culture have died in the last month or so.
Starting point is 02:13:02 Henry Hill, Sonny Corleone, Pauly Walnuts. And even though we seem to lose great figures all the time every week, it's just such a coincidence to have three of these guys in the mob world go like this. It's sad. It's sad. It's nuts. James Caan, holy shit.
Starting point is 02:13:17 Just go through the movies that guy was in. Just hit after hit. And honestly, Sneaky, one of his best performances was an elf. He was so good at that movie. He's hilarious. It's the guy who was like, you're not my son. So Godfather,
Starting point is 02:13:31 just a classic. He was so perfect for that role. And then watching the, watching the show that was recently out about the making of the Godfather. Remember I talked about that show? Yep. The offer. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:43 And, and they didn't, they didn't want them, right? Like James, James Conn. I don't think they wanted them in that role. The offer. Yep, the offer. The offer, yeah. And they didn't want him, right? James Caan, I don't think they wanted him in that role. It wasn't their first pick, yeah. Yeah, and then he turned out, he was so perfect. Like the psychotic snapshot and just how it all ended for him in that movie. So, I mean, it's crazy.
Starting point is 02:13:57 And then in terms of The Sopranos, I mean, I love how people immediately showed the episode where him and Christopher were stuck in the woods trying to kill the Russian assassin and they shot him in the head he's like I think I got him so um Paulie Walnut's like I mean after Tony Soprano I think he might be the second most thought of character yeah I I've watched I've watched the Sopranos um originally and then I think just last year maybe two years ago I re-watched it. Such a great show. His lines is, oh my God, it's just so funny. I saw that
Starting point is 02:14:30 James Caan also, what was the other thing I saw about him? Oh, I'm drawing a blank on my biz brain right now. I'm sorry. Son maybe? There was a quote from his son, Scott Caan, who by the way was one of our... Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, he had said that, you know, like James Caan quote from his son scott khan who by the way was one of our yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yeah he had said that you know like james khan said to his son scott he said you know
Starting point is 02:14:50 my dad never told me he loved me so he made sure to tell his kid like all the time like that he loved me and i and i can kind of relate to that because i think a lot of maybe grandchildren of the greatest generation whose parents were boom is that yeah that generation didn't necessarily tell their kids they loved them and you, that affects kids as they get older. And then they realize, like, I don't want my kids to feel that way. So they kind of pay it forward in that regard. So that was a pretty nice thing he shared. Also, James Caan, Misery.
Starting point is 02:15:13 I know what you haven't seen it yet. Tremendous movie. He plays the novelist who has an accident, gets saved by his number one fan who then holds him hostage. You got to watch it wherever it's streaming. Thief is a movie I've praised a zillion times in the show, checked out out also honeymoon in Vegas. Another one of his, uh, his great flicks. And as far as Pauly Walnuts, this is a guy, man, he was a Y.
Starting point is 02:15:33 I mean, he was a legit wise guy back in the day. He was doing stick up jobs on robberies. He went away. He got arrested. I think 28 times did a couple of jail sentences. And then he was doing, uh, when he was in prison, there was a, an acting troop made of made of ex-cons who came to his prison. And he got the acting bug. And that's how he started getting into acting. He kind of did bit parts for 20 years.
Starting point is 02:15:52 And actually, his first speaking part was actually in The Godfather Part II. He was one of the Rosado brothers. And then he was in Goodfellas. But this is the role of a lifetime, man. This just fell in his lap. Taylor made for it. I think his lifestyle before that plus just the italian accent everything uh just the guy who was tailor-made for the role so we're sorry
Starting point is 02:16:10 to lose these guys and any family or friends who may be listening we send you our condolences because there were some legends so uh thanks thanks to those guys for everything they've done uh wimbledon did you guys catch any of the wimbledon final this guy nick kirgios i didn't i didn't i've seen him play before He's a straight up lunatic. And I'm pretty sure that he needs the madness to play well. It's crazy how he acts. And if you haven't seen him YouTube, some of this guys, he's screaming his box.
Starting point is 02:16:34 He'll be like, he's just an absolute lunatic. And then I didn't see the interview after, but you said he was actually the man. Yeah. He, you know, he was doing that during the whole match and it was entertaining as hell. You know, he actually, he's crazy crazy but once the match was all the way it was like a the switch went off and he went over and he was his face was smiling he was he was congratulating joker and walked in and then jokovic like the first two minutes of his uh you know interview right on
Starting point is 02:16:58 the court had nothing but praise for the guy made some jokes it's actually a really funny clip if you got a minute to listen to it and how about jokovic man fourth straight time winning wimbledon only the fourth guy to ever do that like and i'm not highly the biggest tennis guy i forget how to score it every time i watch it but just a machine athlete man it's some of these guys if you're not a tennis fan put on these high level matches and you just appreciate the athleticism and skill that's on display what what what these guys do uh i know we already talked about golf, not to go back to it, but did you catch any of the Scottish Open and what your busy weekend? No, no, didn't really see much. It was kind of an uneventful.
Starting point is 02:17:31 I looked at the highlights and stuff. Xander Shoffley is on fire right now. I am very fired up for the British Open, the Open Championship, waking up early. I think the coverage starts around 5 a.m. and it's just awesome. I mean, having the chance to golf over in Scotland, England, Ireland, it's nothing beats it. The Lynx playing it on the ground, the weather. It's just so cool to see, guys. It's July here and you turn it on and some guys love winter hats on.
Starting point is 02:17:56 So I don't know who the pick is. That Shoffley is due to win a major and playing as well as he is right now. I could see him getting it done. But St. Andrews, the home of golf, the 150th open championship with Tiger woods playing. I'm going to be dialed in all weekend. That's a big deal. And another story, Greg Norman,
Starting point is 02:18:15 he was not invited to the champions dinner at the RNA at St. Andrews. That was pretty big news. I mean, it's pretty much a given that these guys come for, for the champions dinner, whatever the tournament is. But Greg Norman, no dice. Do they not want the distraction? Do they piss that? And what's your take on that?
Starting point is 02:18:30 I think Greg Norman is just like the black sheep of professional golf. He's trying to take down both the DP World Tour, the PGA Tour. And then news breaks today that as Joe Biden's heading over to Saudi Arabia to beg for oil, as Joe Biden's heading over to Saudi Arabia to beg for oil, all of a sudden the Department of Justice is opening up a case against an antitrust case against the PGA Tour. Basically looking into is what they did illegal in terms of banning all of these players from the PGA Tour have signed on with Live Golf. So kind of seems like an odd coincidence.
Starting point is 02:19:01 It's the fucking country first. Yeah, what the fuck's going on? So maybe all of these players who are on the Live Tour who can't play on the PGA Tour will be able to do both. Seems like an odd coincidence. Yeah. What the fuck's going on? So I, I, I, maybe all of these players who are on the live tour, who can't play in the PGA tour, I'll be able to do both. There's just so much madness with pro golf right now and all the money that
Starting point is 02:19:13 the Saudis are throwing at people. And Greg Norman is the beginning and the creator of all of it. He's been trying to take down the PGA tour since he was still playing actively. And now you're seeing some true madness in terms of the RNA, not even welcoming a former champion back. Yeah, pretty big stuff there. Okay, there's some other goofy news, Biz.
Starting point is 02:19:33 I know you've run out of gas, but Elon Musk will not be buying Twitter after all. That's the latest. Who knows? Oh, really? Yeah, he put in the bid. A billion bucks. Yeah, what was it, $ 44 billion he was gonna pay i know no but he he because because he didn't buy it in order to like um start the negotiations he has to walk away from a billion dollars but he got all the information as to you know to to see and then
Starting point is 02:20:00 you know he made his conclusion that he didn't want to buy it yeah i think he wanted to know how many of the accounts were bots and they were, you know, weren't sharing the info. And who knows what really went on? I just didn't I just didn't buy the whole like free speech thing. I mean, you're talking about a service that's all over the planet. Now, not every country has free speech, doesn't have what we have in America or Canada or other countries. So the idea that like this is somehow free speech, I just didn't buy into it. I mean, it's just like free speech is being able to say what you want in your country or in but it doesn't mean you can log on
Starting point is 02:20:27 to a privately owned company on a computer and just say anything willy-nilly i mean i got the idea of it but i just never saw like it wasn't like to me like oh this is the town square it doesn't work this the whole planet has different rules and every country is different so the idea that we're all going to come and talk and it just never i don't know i just didn't buy to be free speech is is something in your own country. You don't just go on the internet and just say what you want. I don't know. You agree.
Starting point is 02:20:49 Disagree. Don't give a fuck. No clue. All right. What I think. All right, boys. The batteries,
Starting point is 02:20:56 batteries diet. I know biz before, before he blanks out on his boys. Great episode. Lots of news to get to a huge thanks to Kevin weeks. He's the best breaking stories all the time. Any final thoughts before we do a Rapparooski here or what? I don't drink a thousand drinks at a wedding on a weekend,
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