Spittin Chiclets - Spittin' Chiclets Episode 398: Featuring Johnny Gaudreau

Episode Date: July 19, 2022

On Episode 398 of Spittin’ Chiclets, the guys are joined by Johnny Gaudreau. Johnny joined (36:46) to talk about breaking the internet this past week when he signed with the Blue Jackets. He discuss...ed what led to his decision and what other team he almost ended up with. The boys also talked about all the other free agency drama over the past week. So many signings, trades and the guys broke it all down. The boys wrap up with some Chiclets Cup talk and some British Open chatter.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/schiclets

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Spittin' Chicklets listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello everybody, welcome to episode 398 of Spittin' Chicklets, presented by Pink Whitney. My friends at New Amsterdam Vodka here in the Barstool Sports Podcast family. Unrestricted free agency opened last week. All kinds of bombs dropped, all kinds of news to get to. But, of course, we got to say hi to the fellas first. Mikey Grinelli, huge week for you. The Chicklets Cup this week in Buffalo. What do we got? Yeah, Chicklets Cup week is finally here. Been looking forward to this for a very long time. Very, very, very excited. Excited to play. Excited to see everyone. But most importantly, I think I'm
Starting point is 00:01:01 most excited for our announcement that will be coming Thursday. So stay tuned to the Sticklet Social channels for that. Will do. Yeah, that's some big news. I can't wait for it. Next up, Paul, that's a different background for you. Biz Nasty, Bissonette. Is that a Bob Eeyore jersey I spy? That is a Bob Eeyore jersey.
Starting point is 00:01:17 My friends here at Young Insurance in Welland allowed me to use their Wi-Fi while I'm in Welland, the dub dot, Welland, Ontario. So big thank you to them. Tyler Bilby, my friend who won the Sutherland Cup with the St. Catherine's Falcons, set it all up. What's the Sutherland Cup, like Junior B or something? Yeah, Junior B, like the Golden Horseshoe. And then when you win the Golden Horseshoe, you move on to like. You get the golden shower.
Starting point is 00:01:42 You get the. You do it. I mean, I don't know what they're doing after the after they you do it i mean i don't know what they're doing after the after they win the celebration with i don't know what the fuck you're up to bringing up the golden showers but uh no i've been back home visiting with family it's been a great time i actually did a couple pink whitney appearances i did the lake house one and the mansion house so big thank you to their staffs all the people that showed up i tell you what these kids they still like their fucking pictures they they love the pictures man biz so funny you brought
Starting point is 00:02:11 this up there was one kid who came up and and he was like no i don't want a picture just wanted to say hi shoot the shit a little bit i said fuck we need more kids like you in the next generation my friend so so just was it friday or saturday i was talking to somebody and they were kind of asking about like our season and the trips i was mentioned we're going to buffalo and they were like oh like everyone kind of just wants pictures now huh i was like yeah it's like it actually drives biz kind of crazy where biz has always said to me dude i'd rather just shoot the shit with somebody than like take a picture. Everyone wants to do the picture. Whereas I'm like, oh, the picture's quicker. I'm down to chuck a deuces and take a pic. But you've always kind of been somebody who said, I'd rather really
Starting point is 00:02:55 sit and chat with somebody quickly than do a picture. And you're sticking to that. Yeah, it's just I guess it's just a little bit more bizarre nowadays where everybody wants to show people what they've done as opposed to maybe telling them i don't know if they their friends won't believe that they they came to the pink whitney party and we just shot the ship but i get that it's all part of it i'm not gonna go full paul mccartney on him and say because i think that's his rule right uh right um all right i thought it was um what no paul mccartney's rule is i ain't fucking taking a picture i'll have a conversation with you but he he refuses to do it i hey listen i ain't i think
Starting point is 00:03:31 bill russell wouldn't sign autographs he'd have a conversation and shake your hand wow yeah do it screams yeah i'll i'll do it all i'm just saying is i'd much rather just have a conversation i just don't understand the picture thing especially especially when I've already gotten one. And then they come back around where I'm like, buddy, like how many have we taken now? Like, can the other people maybe get one and maybe just come over and have a little bit of a conversation. So, Hey, listen, I'm just happy at the fact that they showed up and fully supported the pink
Starting point is 00:03:59 Whitney tour, the, the business pink Whitney expeditions, expedition as they're calling it. And now that we're talking about it before your ad read on pink whitney ra uh now the western tour dates starting tuesday august 9 baby brandon manitoba joe beavers in the afternoon august 9th that night on the tuesday in winnipeg at underdogs aug August 10th, the next day in Regina at Ballers Rec Room in the afternoon. Then it's off to Saskatoon at Hudson's. And that's in the evening.
Starting point is 00:04:35 On the 11th of August, Edmonton, Brewhouse. August 12th, Red Deer, Wind and Beyond. I believe that one's going to be a bottle signing and not so much of a bar appearance. August 13th in Calgary, Wine and Beyond afternoon, and then Brewhouse in the night. And then August 19th in Vancouver at the local Gastown. And then August 20th in Langley signing BCL and an evening at Sammy J's.
Starting point is 00:05:05 So I got a lot more going on as far as the Western Tour. We have two stops at least in every single province starting in Manitoba. So I'm excited to see all of you. I'm excited to take pictures with you. And once again, I want to thank everybody at Mansion House and the Lake House for the first two appearances in Toronto. And of course, the whole staff that helps us out with this Pink Whitney tour, including our boy G here. You've been a fucking beast. Not only that, but lining up everything Chicklets Cup related.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And if I could just mention one thing about Chicklets Cup, this fucking nose face fucker has assembled an absolute wagon of a team. has assembled an absolute wagon of a team he's went over to i believe one member of the greece national team a member of the italian national team like lebron he is like lebron he has he's hated that much not only hated that much but no loyalty to the guys who helped him win not only the first one in detroit but then he wagon hopped and brought in new guys for the one in Vegas. And now he's completely ditched them. He is a coward. Terry Ryan has brought in a few new faces for our team to bolster our roster. We have found a goaltender and we have found a guy who's been banned from national competitions for beating up a guy on the Czech national team.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Yes. And apparently a few punches thrown at the referees trying to break up that fight. Buffalo chicklets cup will be the biggest fucking shit show that the ball hockey world has ever seen. Grinnelli the venue that you picked at Buffalo river works. It couldn't be any more glorious. We have two perfect roller rinks with sport court there is
Starting point is 00:06:48 a massive bar there's a huge dance floor with a stage where boston levi is going to be playing on the friday night as well as dante djing that party is open to anyone in buffalo if you are anywhere near the region come one come all and And you just mentioned it right before, G, about Thursday night. This is going to be closed off, but we're going to be at the Labatt Brewhouse, where one of the biggest announcements in Chicklets history will be announced. Say announced one more time, you fucking idiot. And I am super pumped for that to kick off the weekend. We're not going to get too buckled at that with the boys,
Starting point is 00:07:24 because we have business to take care of against Noseface, that caramel nose. Fuck. I think I've rambled on long enough. I am fired up. I'm fired up for Buffalo. It's going to be unbelievable. Somebody still might sucker you, too.
Starting point is 00:07:39 That'd be awesome. I don't give a fuck as long as they show up. I am just so, so looking forward to the games because they keep getting better and better, and I'm always right on the bench. I'm right in between two benches usually helping open the door and kind of helping fire you guys up as the game goes along. So, yeah, this is going to be big time.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I haven't even checked the forecast because I'm afraid to. Grinnelli, have you? We're not mentioning the forecast at all. I don't want to jinx it. Sean texted me the other day. We might have a nice week. I'm not jinxing it. So we're not mentioning the F word. Honestly, I think it would be just as fun, if not
Starting point is 00:08:14 even more entertaining if it's just an absolute garbage weather. Because then it's just like, it's like the British Open of fucking Chicklets Cup, except for this British Open. It's going to be a muck fest regardless. You're a mutter. His father was a mutter.
Starting point is 00:08:28 His mother was a mutter. You want to talk about a muck fest, Biz? The Barstool team? We lost Rudy. We lost Riggs. And we lost Patrick Sharp. We went up two divisions, too. We are so fucked.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I don't know if we'll win a game. With that mentality, you are. I don't know if you'll win a game. With that mentality, you are. I don't know if you'll score a goal. Yeah, I'll score a few. Well, R.A., I'm going to send it back over to you. I think I touched on the Pink Whitney tour. Yes. I touched on Chicklets Cup.
Starting point is 00:08:55 You did. I touched on being back home in Welland. You haven't touched on your ingrown wiffle, but we get to that with our special guest, Johnny Gaudreau. My what? Your ingrown wiffle. What to that with our special guest johnny gaudreau my what your ingrown wiffle what the fuck does that mean my the salad i had after you embarrassed me with the the battle of alberta i think you're like two weeks away from it looking awesome you're just in that in between
Starting point is 00:09:15 stage what do you mean my fucking hair looks incredible i got the playoff beard going too uh one other thing i wanted to mention is after those events, we had a memes show up. We had fish, one of our videographers who's actually looked like a character. He is, he is something else. I tell you, he, I'm going to tell you what he did.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And, uh, Rick Carlson. I don't know how many of you know, Rick Carlson, but this is memes is right-hand man who he's always booting around with. This guy couldn't be any more useless, but I kind of
Starting point is 00:09:45 want him at every single thing that we do moving forward he brings nothing to the table so incredibly that I want nothing correct nothing he does nothing I guess he's a really good goalie though I guess he's like an incredible hockey goalie but he he just looks like this majestic character even more so than maybe memes and his getup that he was wearing at these events, the ladies were locked into him. So maybe that's why we bring this guy around. One thing he did say he can do, though, he's going to be my professional blunt roller. And he even offered to, which is kind of cool. R.A. can't roll one to save his life
Starting point is 00:10:25 if anyone's ever smoked an ra joint you will not feel one thing i don't know what he does i don't know how he does it but you know what he smokes every day he's what he's preparing us to play in a band the trumpet in the band because you got to go i'm filling my woodwind section and yeah i rolled a couple just so i can get maybe a little bit high you run you roll the tightest joints i've ever seen all right i thought i really loosened up since i pulled my neck i don't know what's that he pulled his neck i legitimately threw had a herniated disc from sucking down on one of your, like, I don't even know what you call those things. But the good news is RA is I think we're going to put Ricky Carlson on, uh,
Starting point is 00:11:10 maybe a per diem pack salary for the road trips. And he will be rolling our blunts from now on. And he said that he could drive throughout the Western tour. Now I don't know if I want to put our, our lives at risk, but should we maybe should we try? Should we give him a chance to be? I would not be shocked if that kid doesn't even have a license, would not be shocked one bit because he's useless. But going back to the best useless person ever, though, right?
Starting point is 00:11:39 So going back to fish, so we go out to we go out to a meal after the second event at mansion house and we order a bunch of drinks and my guinness comes up and he gives he gives it the octopus fingers touches all over where i would put my and then he slides it over and the lady's got the other guinness which he because he ordered one too and said, fish pass me that one. And you could see the confused look on his face. I go, buddy, I go like, I don't want to get the fucking next variant of COVID. Cause you just touch. And he says, Oh, I didn't touch the foam. And I said, I understand, but you just gave my drink the claw. So anywhere I put my lips, I'm touching your, I'm sucking on your fingers. You'd almost rather him have the finger in the drink than where your lips are going. Mine as well.
Starting point is 00:12:28 He should have stirred my drink with his dick. I would have rather that than him give it the claw that he did. Saw that at a rookie party in L.A. I remember. Oh, my God. Guy just whipped out his hog and stirred up a cranberry vodka for some girl. It was so funny, dude. And he served it to a girl yeah she loved it
Starting point is 00:12:48 oh oh oh and then some guy at one i'll go back to fishy and fish was perplexed that i asked for the other drink too so we can maybe have a debate about how he gave my uh my drink the fish hook why don't you give oh oh we're gonna Oh, we're going to toss it over. I know I've been long-winded here. Somebody come up to me and goes, hey, Biz, remember when you said on the podcast, asked me about the Sergey Fedorov? That was me.
Starting point is 00:13:17 No shit. And he's trying to tell me it was me. I go, I guarantee it was Witt. And it was a story that you said about Sergey Fedorov at a strip club that you can't tell. No, no,
Starting point is 00:13:26 no, no. At Bruckheimer. Okay. All right. So anybody who wants to ask wit about that story, you can ask him. It was not me who brought it up on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:13:34 So, all right, I'll throw it back over to you. A little bit preposterous move by fish. So he's on waivers right now. So he basically did this to give you his drink, which is so disgusting i'd rather have him like put his mouth around it and hand it to you not too much now i could
Starting point is 00:13:52 just slide right off your fingers if it happens to be wet or whatever that's just tough tough his rebuttal was i didn't touch the foam on top yeah yeah i'll fish he's so dumb come on i've never met him well biz you just mentioned it. You kicked off the great Canadian Pink Whitney expedition last week to spread the gospel. But you don't need to chase you around Canada for a shot at the old birdie juice. Just hit up your local package store or head over to your favorite bar, get some Pink Whitney, whack back a shot, have some club soda, whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Either way, enjoy some of that delicious Pink Whitney now that summer is in full swing. And the man behind it, Ryan the Wit Dog. Whitney, what's going on, buddy? What'd you do all weekend? Not much. I didn't do too much. Couple things. Okay, yeah. First off,
Starting point is 00:14:36 I want to shout out, I remember, I think last week I mentioned in how poorly I played in the Mass Am, the kid Connor Willett. I think it's Willett Willett. So his dad passed away suddenly on the mass and the kid Connor will let, I think it's will it will let. So his dad passed away suddenly on the weekend and he still played dude. The kid fucking won it all. He won the whole frigging tournament.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I think he's a freshman at Georgetown or he's going to Georgetown. Just like an incredible story. I saw it was, it made ESPN made ESPN's top 10 plays. So goes out, gets like a top seed, wins one match, two match, three match, four match, and then the final match, 36 holes. Gets it done. What a run. Congratulations to that kid.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Still feel so sorry for his family, what they've gone through. But what an amazing story kind of throughout the week to get to follow as a local Massachusetts golfer. I think everyone around, even if you didn't golf, ended up hearing the story. It was all over the news and stuff. So that was the first thing I wanted to shout out. Myself on the weekend Saturday, I played in the semifinals of the club championship
Starting point is 00:15:34 against the kid Billy Argus, who actually went to the final four of the Mass Am. He mopped me. Lost on 15. I think I had two ripped snap hooks out of bounds. Game was a mess. On the other hand, though, today something clicked. And I went and practiced before this show because Biz and I are filming a sandbagger in Buffalo on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:15:56 So that should be out at some point in the near future. And I had to get my game tight and something clicked. So shout out to me. And what else did I do? Oh, God damn it. Did this crack me up? So Wollaston Golf Club, they have a kid's camp going and they hadn't had it in recent years. Now, granted, COVID had fucked everything up. I don't even know if before that they had had one in a while. So a lot of the parents kind of got together this winter and they were talking to the people who work at the clubs like, hey, we want to have a camp for the
Starting point is 00:16:23 kids, right? Like you want the kids. You can do an hour tennis, hour golf, hour swimming, hour extracurricular activity. Like, so they're all trying to plan this. And I guess like my wife was one of the people doing it throughout the winter. And at one point the pros like, so let me get this straight. You guys just want to like drop your kids off at like eight 39 and pick them up at two. They're like, yes, that's exactly what we want to do. So it started. It started maybe a week ago. This was Ryder's first week.
Starting point is 00:16:50 It's unreal. They're doing an incredible job. Like I said, an hour of everything, hour of extracurricular. You go swimming. It's an absolute blast. You pick up the kids. They love it.
Starting point is 00:16:59 So I go pick up Ryder one day and I'm talking to one of the pros there. Now they help out. All the assistant pros are helping out with the golf and the tennis guys. I want the tennis. And they're like, Hey, so Ryder, I got to tell you what he said today. I'm like, Oh Jesus. He's in the cart with this guy and he's calling his friends, poopy heads,
Starting point is 00:17:18 poopy heads, like Fallon, you're a poopy head. Like whatever. I don't know. Kids are, he's four years old. Ridiculous. I still say it. So the guy's like, Hey Ryder, you can't, you can't say that. poopy head like whatever i don't know kids are he's four years old ridiculous i still say it so the guy's like hey rider uh you can't you can't say that don't don't it's not nice it's a bad
Starting point is 00:17:31 word to say that to people when he goes that's not a bad word fuck's a bad word the guy was like i was like what bad boy rider but he was kind of right i mean poopy face is not a bad word yeah yeah no it's not so occasionally when the f-bomb gets dropped in our household i said that's an adult word do not say that it's a bad word so he knew so that cracked me up and then saturday night we went and saw our top gun oh i still have it no way no i I haven't got to it yet. Oh, dude. It is so good. And obviously going in, I knew there's a touch of corniness. It is what it is, right?
Starting point is 00:18:17 But overall, like I have not enjoyed a film that much in a theater. And I haven't been to many movies since COVID. I don't really have been to a theater that often. What a fucking experience. I'm telling you, anyone, I do not, I can't really imagine anyone going to this movie and leaving and not enjoying it. So I thought you'd seen it already because I was going to talk about a couple of different things.
Starting point is 00:18:34 That's disrespect already to your former co-host. I know. What the fuck? I was going to see it at the IMAX. It was there for like two days. I saw it at IMAX theater. Which one? Boston Common. Isn't that IMAX? No. Would I guess I saw it in IMAX theater. Which one? Boston Common.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Isn't that IMAX? No, I think what I have one of the glasses on. So we'll see this IMAX. Then there's IMAX with 3D. But that's like an IMAX. But it's not like a full IMAX theater like the one up in Reading at the. Oh, I don't know. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:59 The way I saw this thing was OK. It says AMC Boston Common has a has IMAX and IMAX 3D. I didn't do 3D, but I think it was IMAX. I'm pretty sure it was IMAX because I love music. When that starts, I was fired up.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I was so fired up watching this movie. I actually think Miles Teller might be topping the game for me acting. I think he's just phenomenal. I just enjoy him. I loved him in the drum movie. Whiplash, phenomenal. Oh, what a movie.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I loved him in War Dogs. I loved him in, there's another flick he crushed it in. He's just a fucking, he seems like a great guy too. He really does. For not knowing somebody, I truly think he's a good dude. Another flick. He crushed it in. He's just a fucking, he seems like a great guy too. He really does for not, for not knowing somebody. I truly think he's a good dude. He just, he just played in that pro-am out Lake Tahoe.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Oh, and he crushed it in the show about the Godfather, the offer. That's the one I just watched. He's great. He's great. I think he's good buddies with Aaron Rogers. Like they go on a vacation together.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And I think they were golfing with Pat McAfee at that PGA tour. Is it? I know I got to get that. Everyone writes me. how do you get in that tournament i don't know i've written to him i've tweeted at him once they didn't sniff me i asked oh she'd ask he's like dude i got no pull so i don't think i'll ever get in that you know where i could win that fucking thing you know where i got maybe a little bit of pull and i caddied for shane donan it was the waste management program if you'd want to do that one so so for so for people who don't know, I'm going to be out. We're going to be a chicklet is going to be at the waste management this year.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I'm moving to Scottsdale for three weeks, starting the Sunday before the waste management and, and for the next three weeks, including the super bowl and waste management. So I can't wait to maybe we, we finagle our way into that. Now, RA, I got to ask you about another movie and another probably the biggest man rocket on the planet right now. This guy who played Elvis. OK, like I wouldn't I wouldn't let my girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Who is it? Same Austin Butler. I don't know. He is buddy. There's a hot guy in Top Gun, too. You're going to have a half chub the rest of the podcast. This guy's an absolute missile launcher. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Have you seen it? No. I'll probably watch that when it comes on video. Baz Luhrmann, he's a good director, but he's not necessarily my cup of tea. But I haven't seen it yet. But going back to Miles Tello, he's played Vinny Pazienza in Bleed for this. He walks up from Providence. He broke his neck, came back after breaking his neck.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Good movie. Very good movie. Yeah, it's a good take. see broke his neck came back after breaking his neck good movie very good yeah yeah it's a good take and also too uh top well maverick top gun just became the largest ever grossing movie in paramount history obviously tickets are a lot more nowadays but it's made the most money ever by any movie ever this fucking rights hammer my wife leaned over me in the middle of the movie and she's just tom cruise is so out of his mind like he's just an insane human being you look at his face and he's just fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And I think he does his own stunts, right? Oh yeah. He learned how to fly a helicopter for whatever Mission Impossible was a couple of movies ago. And like the stunts he did, like they said, like the average guy takes like months, if not years to learn how to fly like that. He did it in like a crash course in like a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Like just, and I mean, if he fucks up, he's dead. You know what I mean? Like that's so crazy. I'm telling you, I i want to see top gun again i saw it two days ago i want to go see it again what's the most you've ever seen the same movie in theaters mine's i've never i've never been to a movie twice i went to see a man on fire three times no way i saw miracle five times when it was in theaters five In theaters? Five times. No way. 100%. Can I ask my mom? That's a bit psycho, but I respect it.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I saw Goodfellas three times. The three is usually like my probably max to see in a theater at this point. But I saw Goodfellas three times. I think I saw Pulp Fiction three times. I also have. I've said many times that I I think with Breaking Bad and another show that was one of my top shows, maybe Sopranos, the first time I went to watch the first episode, I shut it off. And I did this a few times and recently I'm now into Yellowstone. It was the same thing.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I remember the first episode of Yellowstone 30 minutes in. I was like, fuck this. And now I'm hooked. I'm on episode six of season one. Great show. I heard it gets a little preposterous now that's the only worry right now is it has a little bit of the like um sons of anarchy like kind of like it's even early in the show you're like what that's happening but i can deal with that every time i tell somebody i bought a lot in jackson they're like yeah i've seen Yellowstone too. That's everybody.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Everybody just chirps me with it. I'm like, I've actually never seen it. Now, I have to go back to the Pink Whitney event one more time for one of the wildest stories I've ever heard. And there was video evidence of it. So a junior kid comes up to me and he goes, I found out that my old like my mom was getting thumped by one of my coaches and she called my dad so he had his friend video it where the kid ended up going to confront the guy and he walks over as the guy is going into the rink and he knocks him out cold he walk in buddy i could what the fuck there's and you watched the video he he tells me
Starting point is 00:24:08 you're kind of like ah shows me the video almost i'm like uh i'm like did you did you tell your he goes yep he goes i fucking knocked them out and i went home and i fucking told my dad it was going on and and now they're they're divorced and i holy shit buddy i was he he dude what a dirtbag coach yeah yeah yeah yeah not good not good i mean no wonder he was getting mom too the mom's a scumbag too yeah obviously yeah maybe she was trying to get him some fucking pp time i don't know maybe that's how i ended up getting... That's how Biz got drafted. Fuck you, you fuck. There was a guy named Paul high up there. Just the whole coaching staff running train.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Fucking. I guess we can get him out there on the second unit. Oh, imagine your most hated coach. Imagine if I found out Randy was just hammering my mom. Oh, my God. He's like, wow, this is how I put up with your fucking outlet passes with you fucking asshole. Turn it over one more time. And now you turn over.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I respected the kid for come up and tell me like normally when someone's like, hey, I got a story to tell you. You're like, oh, here we go. Like fucking. Yeah. You're putting my act. And I'm going to turn into Jon ham here to pretend i actually like this one i was in a straight up sucker punch too oh yeah he fucking floored him and then the and then the so then the other coach stepped in and completely separated him and i mean mind you
Starting point is 00:25:38 i'm in this young's insurance office and there's ladies like filing papers right now probably wondering why this guy's yelling about guys she's like i thought this was a hockey podcast shout out to young's insurance jesus christ that's that's wild too just because like i mean most guys probably just tell the kids to tell the father or whatever but it's like actually fucking blast the guy i'm i'm gonna beg to get this video so we can put it on the spit and checkouts maybe oh dude we have to get that video up i at least want to see it if if if did you would like would you have reacted the same way would you have actually like honestly all joking aside that makes me like so sad like i i don't i don't even know like if you found that out that you're like mom was like cheating on your dad
Starting point is 00:26:21 like i don't how yeah how the fact that he knew the guy yes you would like to think you'd be angry enough to just go straight up sucker him but it's still probably pretty fucking rattling for the kid to hear that you know and i wonder what he said to his mother because hey you know it takes two to tango you know what i mean like oh yeah you know like i don't know what how that worked oh that's that's crazy dude fucking therapy time uh it just sunk in i'm like i'm at a loss for words now. Yeah, Jesus Christ. We've got to mix it up here.
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Starting point is 00:27:10 wife, check out this site. Jesus Christ. Check the game notes. So, Chick, this is more or less the end of our season, I guess. I mean, I know the NHL season has been over. We've had free agency. We had the draft. That's pretty much symbolic for the end of our season. Then we're going to kind of downshift in August, going to have a bunch of interviews still. You're going to get a whole bunch of awesome interviews.
Starting point is 00:27:26 We've got in the bank right now, but you boys don't want any vacations, any trips or whatever for August. What do you got? No, I'm going to be actually arguing with TD bank in my off time about these fucking withdrawal fees. You want to grind my gears? I don't get hit by those. You got to be like, you should be do with the amount of money you have.
Starting point is 00:27:42 You got to be with a bank that doesn't hit you with those. So if you know when you go pay bills online and in in my situation you have to do it through the checking account so if you do it through the savings account they hit you with a five dollar withdrawal fee so this is a bit of a humble brag i keep 100k in my td account in my checking account just as like a like a safety safety valve in Canada. Like, you know, all of a sudden your parents need money or whatever it is. And then I have a little bit in the checking and I just pay my, my house bills or whatever it is, you know, heating here, you know, water bill you hear, why are you laughing already? The humble brag.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Just a lot on fire today. I'm just laughing. Just him explaining how bills get paid. So, so sometimes I feel like I click the checking account Because I'm aware So okay maybe I forgot to check The other box and all of a sudden Because I'm paying the bill through my savings account
Starting point is 00:28:37 Not my checking account You want to hit me with a five fucking dollar withdraw fee Fuck you And I have all my money in your bank In your hammer it's bullshit dude fuck you enough with the withdraw fees i listen young's insurance is gonna lose their mind i keep dropping f-bombs in here but that ra and i hate to steal your thunder with the grind my gears if i get one more withdraw fee i get my atm fees back from my my bank like if i go down the bank start under the
Starting point is 00:29:06 umbrella that's what i was taught that's what i meant already i didn't i don't i don't know about the withdrawal fees that's what i'm gonna be suckering a teller just like my buddy from the junior team catching his old lady getting thumped by the assistant coach for some pp time look out td tellers look like you got to chime in, G. You got a vacation on South of August or what? Yes, a long awaited vacation going down to Italy, actually. Oh, yeah, you were going to do that a while ago,
Starting point is 00:29:34 right? Yeah, yeah, I was going to go a couple years ago, but the pandemic happened and haven't really been able to travel for the past two years with the old lady, but we're going to Positano, the whole Amalfi Coast. We're going to positano the whole amalfi coast we're going to hit calabria capri buddy if you don't have a manzito on instagramming it up all over your stories manzito that's fucking speedo oh shit you got to get a speedo you should be drinking drinking Aperol. Aperol? Aperol spritzes. Oh, yeah. What are those?
Starting point is 00:30:07 It's Prosecco. I'm such a. Prosecco. And then a little bit of. Apple juice. Cranberry. All right. You're the drink guy. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:16 As a no, it's not an IPA that he can slug down before the show. Yeah. Prosecco. I didn't get too many when I bought it many moons ago. Didn't I don't even know if I ever made a Prosecco when I bought it. I attended. It is a Aperol spritz is Prosecco. I didn't get too many when I bartended many moons ago. I don't even know if I ever made a Prosecco when I bartended. It is a Aperol Spritz is Prosecco, a little bit of bitter, and soda water. Gee, I actually just said, done deal. We're going to go to Italy.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I've never been. I've always wanted to go. We're going to go for the Ryder Cup next year in 2023. It's in Rome. So I'll be able to talk to you because I want to hit up. I want to do a multi coast. I heard Lake Como is almost not necessary to do. Yeah. So like, I'm going to, I'm going to talk to you after that's great.
Starting point is 00:30:54 When are you guys going? August, August 2nd, we leave, I believe. And I'm, I'm so excited. The best part is, is my girlfriend's family has a house there. So I'm staying for free in Calabria, which is unbelievable. we have the family tour guide they're gonna show us around it's it's gonna be incredible you should fly through pearson to go there rather kill myself what about you wit i know you're always gallivanting anyways but anything um while we're in a little no i'll just go uh last week of august and uh first week of september like so last week of August and first week of September. So last week of August and then Labor Day, go to Nantucket. See, I'm not – it's funny.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I was talking to a couple of hockey guys about this. I don't like traveling in the summer because it's the only nice months here. I agree with you on this, Whit. It's like I don't want to be away when the only basically time i enjoy being in the boston area is july august september october so it's also very hard the the aspect of it is like i want to take my wife away like she's you know she's been at home all year like we've been traveling all all throughout the season for chiclets so then the season ends and it's like all right i want to be here so i i kind of have to fight between like really not wanting to go and her wanting to go somewhere.
Starting point is 00:32:07 So I was thinking of maybe somewhere like later September before we really get going. I think have we mentioned where we're going to kick off the season? Are we not mentioning that yet? Okay. We're not mentioning that yet. We're going to kick off the season somewhere. We won't say now, but maybe later September, I'll take her away somewhere. London would be cool. Go see a Chelsea game, play a little golf over there. But I don't know. You are something else, buddy. What?
Starting point is 00:32:31 Every time, a trip with the lady, anniversary, 10 rounds of golf in the seven days that you're there. I mean, she might as well just go by herself. No, it's not as bad as you think. It's not as bad as you think. Check the weather before you go, man. I looked Spain and Portugal. They got like 115 degree weather right now it's fucking crazy yeah it's fucking end of july it's like 115 everywhere isn't it not dude if you left boston and went do fucking east across the atlantic you hit either like spain or portugal there so they're in the
Starting point is 00:33:01 same like latitude line as us yeah and they're whatever the same latitude line as us. I guess there's hot air coming up from the shower, but 116 degrees in Portugal. That's obscene. That's like 116 here almost. And they don't even wear deodorant over there. I wouldn't leave my hotel room. Tough scene. I'm looking forward to Vermont, my annual trip. We missed
Starting point is 00:33:19 it last year. Remember that was the first time we did trivia and I was buckled. Oh my goodness. Were you ever crippled? We ran the table on brandon walker and pft comment were you that's where i saw you in saratoga too don't you shoot over there on one of those days that you're in vermont yeah it's about an 80 minute ride all through the back roads you don't even get in the highway at all it's a nice scenic scenic view we'll probably do that again this year but i love going up there it's like calm city it's wicked quiet there's nothing there it's not like a touristy place at all i'm i'm honestly gonna try to like limit myself to like an hour a day on social media obviously you gotta use the internet to watch tv and shit but i'm gonna try to like
Starting point is 00:33:52 unplug like a lot and just try to read some books and i don't know we hey and all right that's fair i think we all need to it's been a long season we went on a huge ripper we got some awesome interviews bank guys we're gonna take a little time off we're going to come back recharge and have another wagon of a season next year um before we throw it over to the hockey oh i thought that was the show good show guys no no uh sneaky banger my buddy callahan put me onto this band and you know at first i was like they are unreal their their name is ten fey t-e-n f you say f-a-y no no f and then it's the e with the accent they do on it and listen to the song super rich that's my sneaky banger and you can listen to their whole latest album i think they released it just before covid hit and uh i don't
Starting point is 00:34:46 believe that they've toured yet but an incredible album and a great band i recommend them ten fey super rich check it out sneaky banger of the day do you guys have any or no no i gotta start coming prepared with sneaky bangers these nights these nights by loud luxury unbelievable song incredible these nights it's brand new just came out last friday incredible as in these nuts these motherfuckers i love when people name theirs in the comments and like stewie to heaven like fucking all these like it's like dude that's not a sneaky band was number one for like 17 years like thank you all right thank you a little more creativity but all right boys enough vacation talk we We still have work to get to here. And we'd already mentioned it.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Johnny Goudreau is our guest today. He shocked the hockey world the other day. He signed with the Columbus Blue Jackets, inked a seven-year, $68.25 million deal, comes out to $9.75 million cap hit. This is not a team people thought he was going to at all. We didn't hear about it until very late. And Goudreau, I just said five players have more points than him
Starting point is 00:35:46 since the 14-15 season. McDavid, Kane, Crosby, Dreisaitl, Marchand. So that's the caliber of player he is. Calgary had given him an offer, but he let them know prior to free agency he wasn't going to be there. Either way, it's a fantastic interview. We're going to go to him right now because it's good stuff. He was very honest, a lot of loss.
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Starting point is 00:36:46 When you choose a monthly plan, get roman.com slash chicklets. And now enjoy Johnny hockey, Johnny good row. We're very happy to welcome this friend of the program back for his third go around on chicklets. He of course just signed a seven year deal with the Columbus blue jackets. That was the talk of the hockey world this week. It's a pleasure to welcome back to the Spit and Chicklets
Starting point is 00:37:08 podcast, Johnny Goudreau. How's it going, guy? Good. Thanks for having me, guys. Thanks for joining us, man. We're down the Jersey Shore getting a little vacay in right now. He's in witness protection in the Jersey Shore right now, all right? Yeah, I'm down here in the Jersey Shore in Avalon, New Jersey. Just stay down here in the summertime. I've been going to the beach, riding jet skis around in the bay back here. Oh, you're a jet ski guy? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Yeah, I love it. You're Kenny Powers. I love the jet skis, yeah. I rip them in the morning all the time and get up at like 7 or 8 and go rip around in the bay for like an hour and a half. You going to make the sign-in bonus last a little longer than the first one or what oh man i can't wait for that to come i'm excited you owe me an apology man you made me fucking shave my head on national television well you went you and company what happened in the battle of alberta bro i know yeah that was bad i thought we were i thought we were chilling after the first game we scored like
Starting point is 00:38:08 14 goals i was like we should be fine here and then next thing you know the rest of the game they're still they're scoring six seven goals when i was like geez i was i was so mad because biz is like look at this you texted him before the second round like i'm gonna make whitney wear that stupid earring or something like that i'm like this motherfucker i know i wanted to see that but you know honestly both were gonna be comical so didn't matter hey in all honesty though like you know you guys win that first game and you know when when a series it ends like that and the season ends like that you always go out afterward you have like the you know the post game pops and you kind of say your goodbyes like did you guys have a long conversation as to like what happened and maybe what went wrong as far as the series was concerned
Starting point is 00:38:54 yeah I mean that was difficult I think because we thought we were the better team I mean obviously uh you know Connor and Bryce Adler were just doing ridiculous things out there every single night. So, I mean, but we were also missing, to me, one of our top team men, like, on our team. Like, Tannett is such a big piece for our team. And he was playing with, like, the worst shoulder injury you could possibly think of. And, you know, and it's hard to do that, you know. But, you know, I's hard hard to do that you know but uh you know i mean yeah it still hurts it hurts to talk about it because you know i thought we were a really good team i thought
Starting point is 00:39:31 we were gonna you know pull that one off you know johnny that was rude to me we shouldn't even be starting out with that we should be congratulating you on this new contract that you've got all right i'm gonna throw it back over you i'm just poopy pants because i had to get my shit head and yeah you still look terrible from that too. You're in the in-between stages right now, huh? Jordan, how many teams did it come down to? I know Columbus was sort of a late name thrown in. Nobody was talking about them.
Starting point is 00:39:53 They got mentioned the day of. So like how many teams did you actually have it whittled down to before you decided on Columbus? I had like three, four teams that I knew I wanted to play for. Columbus was obviously high on that list for me, but there was a few other teams, and the day of, I was the only one talking to two of them, so I was pretty much signed with a different team. Most of the day, I hadn't heard from Columbus,
Starting point is 00:40:17 and then all of a sudden, they called it like four, and I told my agents, like, I want to go here. Like, just try to get this done. Like, this is the spot I want to go here like just try to get this done like this is the spot I want to be right here um and and uh he got it done in an hour and next thing I was signing with Columbus so I was it was a stressful day but no I was super excited you mentioned it being a stressful day and that's something like I'm so I never experienced being a UFA or I was but at that point I was I was getting booted to Russia when my time came. So in terms of that day and like it all comes, you know, you realize you're not going back to Calgary.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Are you kind of getting calls from your agent every 10 minutes? Like, is there a point when you're like, Hey, they need an answer right now? Like how did that whole day come about? Because not until four o'clock you heard from Columbus. That's surprising. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah um yeah to to be honest with you I don't think I'd ever want to do this again it was like it was stressful day like I I thought it was going to be like ah free agency you know this team's gonna want me that team's gonna want me to get a call from these guys that guy this it was nothing like that at all I'm just like what's
Starting point is 00:41:19 going on here and I don't know maybe it's because the flat cap and you know it's harder on teams and and stuff like that but um you know I was only talking to like two two three teams and um I was super thankful that Columbus called toward during that you know late hour then you know afternoon because I was pretty much gonna I think I was trying to get a deal done with the devils and then um Columbus called and um you know I I was like, I want to go here. And then my agent got it done and it was awesome. I heard the list got cut down by about half the teams because they heard you like friends. The soul friends.
Starting point is 00:41:56 And that Ross was his favorite character. And then that cut him down even more. And there was only Columbus left. And then Chuck Fletcher was like, fuck it, I'm not even getting rid of these contracts. I'm going to keep sipping on my Mai Tai here on the beach. I'm not going to do any work. That guy can go fuck himself. I love watching your clips. And out of nowhere, just someone would just be like,
Starting point is 00:42:12 or you can just like Ross and friends like Johnny does. Like just some random episode I'm getting thrown in because I like Ross. I'm surprised that news anchor didn't come after you about it. Yeah, I know. That was tough to watch right there. I was like, geez. Settle down, buddy. Well, that's actually something I wanted to ask you because, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:32 you had such great years in Calgary. The team did have a lot of success, especially this last year, and they wanted you to be there so bad. So how tough was it? Did you have to give Tree Living a call? Was there a final kind of goodbye? And I can't imagine it was easy to say no no to their offer no it was really difficult um i think that's a lot of people think i was just kind of dragging calgary along but you know i i thought about
Starting point is 00:42:56 you know signing back in calgary or going to free agency every day for like a month and i was every day i thought i was going to possibly go back to Calgary and then the next day I thought I was and I just kept it was difficult I just kept going through it in my head and it was a long month but um it came down to like literally the last day I was like I seriously still don't know what I'm gonna do I I love Calgary so much um it's such a great place to play the fans are great but um But, you know, in that final, you know, kind of a few hours, I thought, you know, this is going to be best for me to just test for agency and it was hard
Starting point is 00:43:32 decision, but yeah, it was, it was a long month there. I, it was one of the hardest things I've had to do in my life. I think just trying to, you know, let Calgary know I wasn't going to go back. Jordan was the one decisive factor. you're like, all right, it's going to be Columbus. I know your buddy, Eric Robinson's been there for a long time. Was he a big recruiting factor? Yeah, Eric, obviously super close, you know, really close buddy of mine.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And then I played with a lot of guys on that team. I played with Corrali, you know, I played with Renske, a couple of world championships. I was Eric Cabrances on on the team i had a lot of familiar faces there and um it makes kind of going into a new team a little bit easier so i really like that part of uh plums as well you know just having familiar faces there and stuff how much of a factor i guess to caught i guess a more relaxed atmosphere than playing in canada how much of that was a factor as well yeah i, I mean, it's going to be different than playing in Canada, obviously.
Starting point is 00:44:27 You know, the media and this and that, it's a lot smaller in Columbus. But I've heard so many good things about their fans. You know, they're so into the game, the fifth line. And I'm really looking forward to playing in front of those guys too. Obviously, Canada's kind of a different level than a lot of places you play in the States. But I think it's going to be a pretty fun place to play. I'm looking forward to playing my first game there. Are you training for the cannon?
Starting point is 00:44:56 Because I saw it one of the years where you were at the All-Star game there. You pooped your pants when the cannon went off. Yeah, I've done that a few times. I was telling the media in Columbus, I was like, you're just going to have to put me in the arena and let this thing blast off like for an hour and i'm just gonna get used to it eventually yeah just lock you in a room now okay so going back to the fact that you end up leaving calgary like have you been asked if if maybe covid and the rules and and and like the shutdowns and everything the canadian side of it did that play any type of
Starting point is 00:45:24 factor in this? Or is that just absolute nonsense? No, not really. It didn't really. I mean, obviously, it was tough, you know, with the whole COVID thing in Canada. It was pretty hard, you know, getting family in to come see us, not even play.
Starting point is 00:45:38 They couldn't even watch us play. Couldn't even come to the arena. But just to come say hello or, like, see my family, that was difficult. But that didn't but um that didn't really that wasn't a huge deciding factor why i didn't go back um i think it was just it was time for me to just get a different change of scenery i think and uh um we wanted to play a little bit closer out east and and play a little bit closer to family. And that was important to us. Does, does the, does maybe some of the negativity, maybe from media members, Calgary fans about you leaving and your decision,
Starting point is 00:46:11 like, were you expecting maybe some of it or, or all of it? And does, does it, does it affect you deep down considering what you put into that organization? Yeah, I didn't think I was going to get as bad as I have. I obviously thought there was going to be some fans not happy, but I didn't think I was going to hear about as much as I have. And I get it. I mean, they're a very passionate fan. They have very passionate fans, and they love their flames,
Starting point is 00:46:42 and the city of Calgary loves hockey. So I understand it's been hard on a lot of people, but, you know, I still love that place. I was part of that organization for 12 years, played there for eight or nine years, and the city was great to me every single time. And it sucks, you know, having to leave. But, you know, I just wish them all the best, and then hopefully, you know, having to leave. But, you know, I just wish them all the best. And then hopefully they can get over it soon here because it's a great place.
Starting point is 00:47:12 And I really did love playing there. I'm going to miss the Gucci belts and the Gucci loafers on the horse to lead the Stampede Parade, man. I'm not going to lie. I know. I was going to bring that back this year if I went back. Oh, my. That would have been one way to fucking re-sign there, just come in with the horse and the flag, maybe with like a pair of hogs.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Now he's going to like a Buckeyes game or something with some Yeezys on. Exactly. Rip it up that way. Exactly, yep. So I'll probably do that. I'll try to do that next year. Has Patrick Laine called you? No, he's playing video games he said oh he's playing grand theft
Starting point is 00:47:52 auto he's getting the five stars i talked to a few of the guys but uh yeah he texted him texting him a little bit i texted a few of the other guys and uh my phone's just been blowing up i debated just chucking in the ocean not even answering anything but i forgot i had an interview with you guys so i'll do it after this i got one more quick one when when you decided columbus was the landing spot did you know that you were going to like blow up the hockey world with this like they never you're the biggest 100 the biggest free agent signing they've ever had and i don't even know if they've ever had anyone even remotely close to that ra you might be able to chime in with a name or like this is you did you know did you expect that it was going to make headway i i didn't expect people to to be so shocked on me choosing columbus i guess maybe i didn't know i didn't expect this at all i everyone's texting me what like why columbus question mark
Starting point is 00:48:46 and i'm like and i'm just like well your mom i i did my research i've heard so many great things about columbus and you know the outside part of the city with like just great neighborhoods great golf i mean the flying for the road games are i'm back in my bed at like 12 instead of four in the morning sometimes i mean there's just a lot of really good you know things that i kind of learned about columbus and uh to go to ohio state games too which is awesome and i i i wasn't i was a little shocked the way everyone thought it was so shocking i chose columbus but how's the jet skiing there i don't know i don't think they do they have they got a river there i think maybe i don't know yeah there'll be something for you to rip around on oh yeah yeah yeah you're in your pool because
Starting point is 00:49:34 you're a gazillionaire now you just get a fucking just an olympic size swimming pool and just rips up the the the columbus blue jackets jet he has made for his signing bonus. You and Kenny with that mullet you got going. Oh my God. But you mentioned doing your research and that's one thing I think people think of Columbus and obviously it's not a major city but first off, it's a great
Starting point is 00:49:58 fan base and you saw kind of the fan base and what they went through when they upset Tampa and how crazy that building was. And second, like, it is such a great place that you see so many guys they don't leave there once they retire. I think Dubinsky is still there. I think Jared Bowles there. And there's a lot of guys. So I'm assuming doing your research, you're talking to people who really love living there post playing as well.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Right? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I was just, you named a few, but there's like six, seven other guys, you know, going back there in the summers. And like I was talking to Cam Atkinson, I mean, I drove by his house the other day and I text him like, I'm on behind next to your house. He came out. I got to see him. He's like, I'm so happy. You're going to love this place. Like this is such a undercover great city and I kept hearing everyone say it's a hidden gem and you know just being there for the whole day and like just going around you know the city and the little outskirts and towns and some golf courses I just I just kept getting this vibe that I was like wow this is a really this could be a really cool place to play
Starting point is 00:51:02 you know I think like you said i'm really looking forward to it and uh uh see where it goes i think a lot of people expect philly to be in the mix and they kind of gave you the new phone who dis replied nothing ever materialized did that disappoint you on some level being you know a local guy and growing up like in the flyers yeah i mean obviously i said it before in the interview or something but you know it's always it'd always be cool to play for your your hometown team and obviously they didn't have the cap space or anything so i kind of knew that they were kind of out of the you know they wouldn't be around on free agency day a few weeks before because you know they had to make a ton of trades and this
Starting point is 00:51:41 and that and uh obviously kept an eye on it, but nothing ever came about it. But, yeah, on free agency day, though, you know, I was only really talking to like two or three teams. And I was very fortunate. Columbus called there the last, you know, remaining hours there in the afternoon. He gave your bag to Risto. Whoops.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Yeah, very similar bags. Actually, Chuck Fetcher's became my favorite gm after the the answer he gave about that how it was going to be too hard to move a couple contracts to get one of the best playmakers we've seen in the last fucking what five to ten years here come on it's fucking hilarious dude he just didn't even want to work to get it done so suck on that one johnny uh what do you what else you got there? Well, I was, I was going to say, you got, you got, your first child's on the way I believe is your wife, wife do somewhat. That's that's awesome. Congrats on that.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Did you guys go out and pick out a house? Has she been out there yet? Or was that just your first visit just the other day? Yeah. It was our first visit together. They sent a plane the next day to pick us our first visit together uh nice they they sent a plane the next day to pick us up at like nine in the morning we were there for the full day and we were looking at a couple houses and you know a bunch of realtors are helping us but uh yeah she's due september 30th so looking forward to that it's going to be uh that's gonna be a lot of fun and then uh trying to figure out buy a house here in the next few few weeks and uh move everything into uh you know our home in columbus here so we're looking forward
Starting point is 00:53:10 to doing that it's kind of like a little kind of next chapter for us and we're excited to kind of you know get started on doing that type of stuff that's awesome now all right before you go here like it is part of the decision factor in that you wanted an ohio baby just like monica and chandler in friends i don't know if you remember that episode where they actually were going to adopt so does that is that kind of like is this is this what's happening full circle we've come full circle yeah i don't remember that one that's that's probably the main reason why i chose columbus for that exact point right there i fucking knew it i fucking knew it there you go all you they should be playing friends on the jumbotron during intermissions at
Starting point is 00:53:50 the games just because they were able to land the biggest free agent signing and the biggest one in their franchise history let off the cannon his goal song yeah seriously maybe johnny number 13 currently won by uh youngster kent johnson are you gonna have to cough up some of that loot for rolex maybe to get 13 has that been a discussion yet are you gonna wait and see no i'm i'm 13 they told me it right after i signed like this uh this younger player has it and uh he actually was wearing number 13 because of you and i'm like he can keep it i'll just pick a different number i don't really i don't know i was like i don't need 13 i don't want it like
Starting point is 00:54:29 i'll just pick something else he's like he's not even getting no no he's like a training camp he's getting shut down fucking on waivers he's like fifth overall no he's not yeah he's actually really good he's really good player it doesn't matter he texted he texted the gm he's like you can give johnny 13 and i was like before i i didn't even know they had a 13 i because i wasn't familiar with columbus his organization like like they're drafted players and stuff so i had no idea they're like oh yeah here i texted said you can have and i was like are you sure like i don't want to take anyone's number and so just bring them out to a couple steak dinners and stuff i was like all right
Starting point is 00:55:04 he sent uh he sent the picture of a daytona rolex right afterward i don't know what that's about but uh but uh yeah you do with with it what you want well number what number would you have worn if you if 13 if he kept it i was probably either gonna go like 12 or 19 but i don't need a number biz us best players that's's what we wear 12's my number Yeah, geez, that's why you want to start dumping it in every time? Maybe he does, fucking That's why I was going to wear it, Biz They're a blue-collar town, buddy, they're going to appreciate
Starting point is 00:55:34 those dump-ins, buddy Yeah, for sure Do you know Jakey at all, Voracek? Yeah, I do, kind of, like, just through passing and Uri Hudler used to play in the Flames Those two together Mount of Champagne, those two probably drank together kind of like just through passing and Yuri Hudler used to play in the flames and oh Jesus like those two together amount of champagne those two probably drank together yeah so I just I kind of
Starting point is 00:55:52 known him gotten to know him better over the years because of the hoods um but uh yeah I know him a little bit I'm excited to play with him I hear he's a pretty funny dude so that'll be a lot of fun to play with him. How's the summer training? Like when you're in Jersey, do you have other NHL guys that you're training with? And the main reason I ask is I was talking to Hazy about you the other day. We played golf the day you signed, and we were just shooting the shit. He's like, dude, the workouts at BC were so funny.
Starting point is 00:56:23 He would carry around a water bottle, and we'd just dump water on his head to make it look like he was sweating yeah i mean in college i was not into any of that crap and uh i learned really quickly uh if i wanted to you know keep playing i gotta get a little bigger though i gotta get a little stronger than 135 pounds but uh no in the summers i got like eric robinson obviously plays in the blue jackets i got his older brother buddy Robinson, and then D'Angelo is down in South Jersey. And then John Stevens, old coach of Dallas, his two sons playing the HL. And we all kind of skate together down here in Atlantic City. And then I just kind of put like a little gym together in my garage and kind of just work out there in the mornings. That Eric Robinson, I know he's a little gym together in my garage and kind of just work out there in the mornings that eric
Starting point is 00:57:05 robinson i know he's a little younger i was he had a pretty solid season undrafted kind of come out of nowhere after playing at princeton if you've known about him a long time though yeah he's always been a pretty good player i mean obviously he he kind of grew a lot throughout college so um he had a little growth spurt, but he works super hard. Like in the summers, he works out extremely hard. He skates like two or three times a week. Like he's like, you know, he, he wants to play in NHL. That's why he's playing in NHL.
Starting point is 00:57:34 You know, he's kind of just grinded it out like hard summers. And that's why I don't work out with him. But yeah. Johnny, I heard one of the most preposterous stories i've ever heard actually we're doing a live stream hazy came on i love doing the live streams where random guys pop on and he said that one time that you you ended up i don't know if it was a pre-game meal and there was these meatballs that were covered in marinara sauce and then you were using the the the table cover to take all the marinara sauce off the meatball so you could eat the meatballs
Starting point is 00:58:06 just plain like what the fuck is wrong yeah i just i didn't like the sauce the marinara sauce it was like it was like right out of a can and then it wouldn't even taste like italian at all so i was just eating like pasted marinara sauce it was gross so i just wiped them off and then just stuck them in a roll and made myself like a little meatball sandwich and shammered a couple of those. Did you treat yourself to anything to celebrate? I mean, I know you weren't exactly handsome out before this deal, but did you buy yourself a little treat just to celebrate?
Starting point is 00:58:36 Probably went to Subway. Oh, his wife went online shopping for 43 hours in a row and he's got no money left. No, honestly, we haven't done anything we uh i mean i might go buy like a golf cart to like ride around in my little town here in avalon everyone's got golf carts and i feel like i kind of need one so i might just go get like a decked out sick golf cart with like some speakers and grip it to the beach and stuff hubcap spinners yeah get some like strobe lights coming out for the night time
Starting point is 00:59:05 we're riding around hey talk to yans didn't he get an unbelievable one when he hit his uh thousandth game yeah they gave it to him yeah that one looked awesome you should talk to him see who they went through and try to grab something like that but how how hard of a time did hazy give you at the fact that uh you weren't able to get to philly he must have been pretty hazy's going to Columbus. He's going to be in Columbus by 2024. I'm telling you watch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:34 He was, he was super, he was a little upset. I, he was trying to push me to get the, to get the Philly for, he wanted me to come to Philly. He's like, Oh yeah, we always come to Philly. Like we'd love to have you in Philly and I want to play with you someday. So I was like, yeah, I'd love to play with you too. But you know, obviously Chuck never, it wasn't in the, they couldn't get the cap space or whatnot that on that day. So, but I was texting him yesterday, two days ago. He's like, you're going to love club is such a cool town. I was there this summer.
Starting point is 01:00:02 So, you know, another guy who's been there just telling me great things. Hazy also said, I got to ask you about when you bailed on him. He goes, you need to get the story of why he bailed on me, courtside seat, the Knicks, because of Berkey. He didn't want Splinter. Oh, yeah. Berkey. No, I think it was Glenn Galton.
Starting point is 01:00:21 But he just – we were having, like like a practice in the Madison Square Garden, and I didn't take the bus. I just went in a cab. I put my equipment on, and I just took the cab instead of the bus, and I guess the coach got pissed off or something. I'm not sure why he got mad I took a cab. So I was getting ready to go to the courtside game with him, and he's like, all right, you can choose. You can go to the courtside game with him. And he's like, all right, you can choose.
Starting point is 01:00:45 You can go to the courtside game with him or we're going to scratch you for not getting on the bus with the team. Shut up, dude. I'm like, what? I was like, I was here on time for practice. Like, I didn't miss anything. Like, we had no meetings. Like, what do you mean? He's like, you can choose.
Starting point is 01:01:00 And I'm like, all right. I got 37 family members coming up from South Jersey. I'm not going to go watch LeBron play when I got family coming in tomorrow. So I didn't get that. I didn't get to go in there. So, but, oh, well. What a cock block that is. I know.
Starting point is 01:01:16 I was fired up. We had great seats. You know, of course, I watched LeBron. Couldn't go. Obviously, Hazy was where the ham and and cheese infamous ham and cheese story come up now have you got a taste for sushi since then i knew you were ducking sushi that day yeah me and my wife love sushi we go out uh a lot to uh there's not a lot of great spots in calgary for sushi but you know when we when i go on the road and have a lot and during the
Starting point is 01:01:40 summer times back back here on the coast of jersey they got some great seafood out here and sushi and stuff so i'm venturing out a little bit i don't just eat ham and cheese anymore but i still like how the name's kind of stuck with me you look like a california roll type of guy johnny yeah it's just like spicy tuna with just tuna shrimp tempura only off the glass and get the avocado off of the roll yeah no absolutely no veggies because my body will reject it yeah there's like sometimes they put like cucumbers in the middle or like something i just like poke them out what right through the middle of the hole i love the sushi that has the cucumber as the actual roll part it's the rice you don't like johnny has the thing hey biz he
Starting point is 01:02:22 has the thing that goes on the chopsticks that keeps them together. You know, like the little kid. Yeah. Right. He's eating them with a fork. No, he's eating gold chopsticks now. That's awesome. Hey, so I want to go back to Calgary.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Like, did you like let some of your former teammates know that you were going to move on before, like letting anybody else know? Like, I know we kind of, you didn't talk to one guy i didn't talk to anyone i i honestly i i always say this but like i was it was like the last two hours of the night before free agency and i still had no idea what i was doing and half of them live in europe or half of them live in sweden we got like eight of them up there. They just went to Lindholm's wedding. Yeah, Jarnkrok's wedding, but yeah. Oh, Jarnkrok, sorry. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:08 But yeah, I didn't really have the opportunity to. I just kind of called Brad and let him know. It was already, and at that point, it was like 11 at night. And it was pretty hard for me. It was pretty emotional. You know, like I said, I was there for a long time and it was pretty hard. So I kind of just hung out with my wife that night and just tried to figure out who we're going
Starting point is 01:03:29 to play for the next day and made a little list talk to some people but it was uh it was tough it was hard and didn't really get a chance to talk to any guys so all right what's the what's the show like the the meme where the guy's wiping his tears away with all the money because it was such an emotional decision he's 70 million's wiping his tears away with all the money because it was such an emotional decision he's 70 million just wiping his tears away oh that's jerry mcguire a lot of a lot of pressure coming 95 million it was uh the harrison not harrison the guy who's in uh for fuck's sakes i can't remember somebody's gonna be yelling at me through their fucking speaker right now because i can't remember the meme, the meme.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I want to go back to that Dallas series, man. Jake Audinger was out of his mind. Were you surprised to beat him with that shot game seven overtime? I mean, you know, it was a tough angle. Did you kind of surprise yourself a bit there? Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, I just made a quick play to Lindholm in the front and he took a shot off the goalie's head and like ripped it right off his head. So puck bounced out to me. It was laying flat. And if you played hockey, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:30 if you're taking a shot off the stick with a flat puck, you know, you're probably going to get some luck if it goes in. And I put it in. It literally went in the perfect spot there right above the shoulder, right next to the head and, you know, got a good bounce. It was looking like he might steal that series for a second. Were you guys panicking at any point before overtime during game seven at all? I wanted somebody to run him.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Yeah, I was like, Looch, get in there and just blow him up. Stick him right in the dick. We'll take the five-minute penalty. And go. Yep. But, no, we were pretty calm, I like calm i think you know i mean we were out shooting them by like 40 or 50 shots or something and we were in their zone the whole time i mean they'd get a look here and there and you know obviously anything can happen in overtime
Starting point is 01:05:15 but they did have one look from seg and they passed the back door i don't know how he missed i thought it was an empty net i think he just deflected off the stick. It was kind of a hard pass. And I thought from the bench, I was on the bench, thought it went in. I thought game was over. Then we came back down and scored, won it all. I remember that. He just came out of the box too. You guys didn't capitalize on the PP.
Starting point is 01:05:38 That was when I threw a pillow at the television. Yeah. I was in my hotel room shitting bricks if you guys wouldn't have got past that round i thought you guys had it i thought the battle of alberta you guys were gonna bend them over and you talked about the the injury was that one of the best playoff performances you've ever seen by dry sidle considering he only had one leg yeah i mean those guys were those guys were nuts and playoffs i mean and with missing our top defensive D-man, our D kind of got mixed up, and it hurt us for sure, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:11 not having Danny play. But, I mean, like what you saw, I mean, those two guys, they were playing great the whole series, the series before that. And, you know, it's you know stop two players and play like that so um but yeah I mean they're a good team that last year I thought we were the better team but you know they end up winning I I gotta ask I mean I know the season didn't end the way you wanted but that line I mean it was nuts I mean you could chuck yourself and Lindholm over 120 goals 300 points like had you ever really felt any sort of connection
Starting point is 01:06:46 with another line like that in your life, whether it be when you're younger, college? Because the fact that you guys were able to, like, figure out each other's games that well, it must have been such a fun season just buzzing around with them. Yeah, it was awesome. It was a blast. We kind of each, like, brought something little to the whole line. Like, Chucky, obviously, you know, big body, can sit in the front and get pucks in the corner.
Starting point is 01:07:07 And obviously still all three, you know, super skilled, smart players, can see the ice, you know, knows where we're at at all times. But, and then Lindholm's got that sneaky, like really good shot that, you know, I don't think a lot of people know about. And for me, I was just trying to, you know, make plays and go from there. But, you know, every, like we all had something just trying to, you know, make plays and go from there. But, you know, we all had something that made our line kind of like a pretty good line to play against. So it just, I mean, it reminds me of probably playing with Billy Arnold
Starting point is 01:07:35 and Kevin Hayes maybe, BC a little bit that one year, my junior year. We kind of just absolutely tore it up that year. And it kind of reminds me of this year. Johnny, that was your first experience of the Battle of Alberta in the playoffs. Was it the most intense hockey you've ever experienced? Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I thought it was a harder series against Dallas. You know, just with the physicality and how tight it was. And, you know, we were winning one nothing games or two one
Starting point is 01:08:06 games or losing three two and with those games i think they were just way more offensive you know ice was super open and um you know i thought we kind of played into their game you know kind of you know rushes against and you know they're i think they're probably a little more skilled team than us and you know when you start playing that chance for chance game you know when they have McDavid and Jerry say oh it's probably going to hurt you and in the long run I think that that's what kind of hurt us in that series as well when you talk to Yarmul I don't know if you talked to Brad Larson either was there any mention of like who you might possibly play with when the season gets going or is that just so not even really on your radar yet yeah not even on the radar i was you know i haven't met anyone in that
Starting point is 01:08:49 whole organization other than a few of the guys on the team so you know i was just you know meeting everyone and you know excuse me checking out the rink and the city and doing my press conference so talked to him a little bit yesterday two days ago uh. Lars, just, you know, what he expected out of me and training camp and stuff like that. But nothing, nothing other than that, really. Well, now that the first part of our interview is done, now we're just going to spend the rest of the next 30 minutes talking about Daryl Sutter. What was it like being coached by Daryl Sutter? Now, did you guys have a great relationship? Could you tell us and share some stories that ever get mad at you?
Starting point is 01:09:27 Yeah. Oh, I mean, he got mad every single day. It didn't, it didn't matter who you were, you know, if you were first liner, fourth liner, you know, scratch player, like if you did something wrong, you're getting yelled at. So he didn't care who you were. And I think I kind of, that's what I really liked playing for him. You know, he expected the same out of were. And I think I kind of – that's why I really liked playing for him. You know, he expected the same out of everyone. And, you know, I think he did a really good job with our team.
Starting point is 01:09:53 I don't think a lot of people thought about our team making playoffs or going to the second round before the season started. And, you know, he kind of just brought us together, you know. But I liked playing for him a lot. I thought he was a great coach. And he did a lot of good things for, for me and our team. Any funny stories though, of like shit that he would do in the room and like he would leave and
Starting point is 01:10:12 everybody just be looking at each other laughing. I mean, when he would get mad, he wouldn't even, you wouldn't know he's, you would, you knew he was mad, but then he'd walk out of the locker room and you just hear like 10 seconds of shit being broken i don't know what it is there's a stick you know something else like there's like these plaques of like past team on the wall like falling down and lights are breaking and he's done he did it like two or three times throughout the year and you can just like he doesn't stop he just keeps going
Starting point is 01:10:42 and going it's like 20 seconds, 30 seconds, just smashing stuff. I'm like, oh my God, I've got to play better this period. It was a soundtrack. He would just play it as soon as he left. He's not even screaming or anything. He's just smashing crap. I love it. What did Chucky say when he found out you went to Columbus?
Starting point is 01:11:03 Was he one of those Columbus question marks? Yeah, he was – no, he was happy for me. He shot me a text, and he's like, I heard so many good things about that city. You know, he's like – kind of gives me like – he's obviously from St. Louis, but he's like, it gives me like a St. Louis kind of vibe. And so – but he was super happy for me. And, you know, as you said, you know, wish we could still be playing together. But, you know, as you said, you know, wish we could still be playing together, but, you know, all the best.
Starting point is 01:11:30 And his whole family, his mom, dad, you know, all good people got to know over the past, you know, four or five years playing with him. So, but yeah. Pretty sick that, I mean, you make the first team all-star team. Like, that's unbelievable. I think with the forwards were you, Matthews, and Marner. There's no chance.
Starting point is 01:11:50 You didn't have any, like, bonuses for bonuses for that did you i don't think so i'm not sure that's why he left the fuck first first first line left wing nhl all sorts of i don't get shit yeah i don't even know i mean maybe i doubt it i feel like would have known by now, but that's all right. No big deal. It was really cool. It was a cool accomplishment. I mean, like, that's something that not a lot of players get to do. So that was really cool when I heard my name for that. So it comes down to Jersey and Columbus, I guess.
Starting point is 01:12:20 How does Columbus know about Jersey at the end of the day, Johnny? For me, I think I always said I wanted to play closer to home, but it wasn't too close to where I'm getting bombarded with friends and family and just always nonstop, just basically an open-door policy, come in whenever you want, and that's the way we kind of are down the shore here. My buddies around just come in and this and that, but if we kind of did it all year i i think they've gotten a little out of hand at times but um it's far enough where me and my wife can do our own little family thing you know we're obviously having our first kid coming up here so you know
Starting point is 01:12:57 it's close enough where they you know can visit all the time it's an hour flight it's a six hour drive uh if you're going a little bit faster um and they can come whenever they want and uh we can you know kind of do our own little thing at times too so did you pick a name yet um no i don't know what it's gonna be i don't know if it's gonna be a boy or a girl oh you're not finding out going old school nice no yeah that's what we did it's the best yeah i mean we talked about it every single day we're like you're not finding out? Going old school. Nice. No, yeah. That's what we did. It's the best. Yeah, I mean, we talked about it every single day. We're like, we're not sure what it's going to be. It's something that we talk about every day.
Starting point is 01:13:35 So I think it's kind of been making it go a little bit faster, you know. So we'll see. It's the last true surprise in life until Biz comes home early from a business trip and his old lady's getting double teamed with a gang bang. comes home early from a business trip and his old lady's getting double teamed with a gang bang. Johnny, thank you so much, dude. I mean, that's... We really appreciate you hopping on. You were the talk
Starting point is 01:13:53 of free agency and when that all broke, it was crazy news and we were excited to chat with you. So, congratulations, man. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me. Again, super sorry about that mop head on your hair. I'm going to be heading you up for tickets in Columbus. I'm going to be selling them on StubHub or actually,
Starting point is 01:14:10 we actually use the game time app now. Shout out to game time. Love you guys. But last, if you had to guess, whether you think it's going to be a boy or a girl, what do you think it's going to be Johnny? Probably, probably a girl. I think a girl, but every single person that looks at my wife, they're like, Oh, it's gonna be johnny uh probably probably a girl i think a girl but every single person that looks at my wife they're like oh it's a boy and every single person like every single person will say it's a boy and i'm hey it's nuts do do a gender reveal with the canon just think about it just give it out of the canon out of the cannon gender reveal let the come in with a bang
Starting point is 01:14:46 buddy yeah columbus fans deserve it hey but on a serious note man i'm so happy for that fan base i'm happy for you and i wish you the best uh in columbus and fuck just slide it over to linea you're gonna have 70 million assists this season so yeah i know right excited to watch you guys play yeah thanks guys i appreciate it huge thanks, guys. I appreciate it. Huge thanks to Johnny for joining us at short notice. I did a little DM slide business. I haven't done that for a while. I was like, I had a couple cocktails.
Starting point is 01:15:14 I'm like, yeah, maybe we'll get Johnny Hockey on. He's like, absolutely. I'll squeeze some time for you. I was like, nice. Nice to land a big guy like that. So it's a sight to get him on. Absolutely. I want to let you know that his interview was also brought to you by Labatt Blue.
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Starting point is 01:16:08 Mark my fucking words. Love it. Labatt. Love it. Boy, so we didn't really get to the deal much because we had to get right to Johnny, but we were all blown out of the water. I mean, he obviously explained his methodology and whatever, but what did I say last week? Yep.
Starting point is 01:16:24 I said it. I said there's going to be a team not one person has thought about in terms of the possibility of them landing Johnny Goudreau that comes flying in last minute. It always happens every single year. And it just so happens that not only did an unknown team come flying in, but they got him. And because that was the case, I kind of was waiting to be
Starting point is 01:16:45 surprised. I thought if it was Philly or Jersey or the Islanders or all these teams that he was kind of rumored to be possibly going to, that it would have happened a little sooner that day. But the fact that it took a little while, it's like, all right, who's involved here? And boom, the news breaks. I still, I mean, he says he can't believe people were that surprised. I kind of can, right? Because like there just had been no discussion whatsoever. And with the season Columbus had, which granted they were better than I think people thought they were going to be right around 500. But it's just, it wasn't a team that was on anyone's radar. And for him to go there, it just shows that not only is Columbus, I think a way better city than people give them credit for, but also that the team really is
Starting point is 01:17:23 looking to win. And Jarmo has been very open about kind of changing the entire tune around the image of the city and the team. Panarin wanted to leave. Duchesne wanted to leave. They went through all of those defections and looking kind of foolish the entire time and finally were able to land a big fish. That, along with Wierenski willing to sign a long-term deal there, it's now looking up in the city of Columbus.
Starting point is 01:17:48 And for me, it's exciting for a guy like Johnny Goudreau because I don't care what he says, and I think he's very respectful to Canada, but the lack of media and the lack of every single day there being a front-page story and such news-breaking material out of every practice is probably a great feeling i i know having played in canada the thought of of i think of freddie anderson going from toronto to carolina it's just like oh it's just a little nicer you can do your
Starting point is 01:18:17 job and you can show up and go to work without stressing every single day about a giant story possibly being in the news about you or your team. Well, well that you say the wrong thing in the media and then they just run with it. And it just becomes more and more stressful. Mind you, he is very well media trained. He never really says the wrong thing.
Starting point is 01:18:36 He allows us to do that. I said it at the end guys, like I couldn't be happier for the Columbus blue jackets fan base. Like the first time in their history, they're able to land a big name free agent to this magnitude. R.A., you just said that there's only, what, five guys over how many years who have had more points than him? Since the 14-15 season started, only five players have more points than Johnny.
Starting point is 01:18:59 McDavid, Kane, Crosby, Dreissel, and Marshall. No shit. And you look at what Y Jarmo has been able to do in a very difficult circumstance, and you talked about the free agents who ended up leaving. Well, now you got Wierenski locked in. You got Johnny Hockey. They don't have any bad contracts.
Starting point is 01:19:18 Now that they have these two pieces, and I would imagine they're trying to work out a deal for Patrick Laine, which will now probably entice him to sign there. I don't know what's going to happen with him he's a restricted free agent um I would imagine that considering Yarmul made the trade that he did in order to get him and given up Dubois that they are probably trying to lock in Laine long long term and when you have a playmaker like Johnny Goudreau snapping it over to him, I could see line A now being a 50 goal guy. Year over year playing with this guy. Look what he's done help with Kachuk and Lindholm.
Starting point is 01:19:54 And that's not taking anything away from those guys. They obviously had an incredible line and they worked very well together. But to have that type of a sniper on your wing and on the power play that you can feed where he's in some cases automatic and he goes through these hot streaks. And going back to the amount of guys that they can maybe draw over now and in a city with and you also touched on it where you don't got to deal with the media night in and night out. You can go enjoy a nice dinner with your family and not get harassed. And maybe even in most circumstances, not even be noticed, right? You're probably as a college football player there, you're probably getting noticed more than you are a Columbus blue jacket. So I'll reiterate it again,
Starting point is 01:20:36 seeing a small market like that land a guy like Johnny Goudreau, I couldn't be happier. I think it's fucking great for the league. Shifting the focus over to, you know, Brad tree living. goudreau i couldn't be happier i think it's fucking great for the league um shifting the focus over to you know brad tree living i've stroked him off plenty of times in this podcast there's only a few reasons as to why i was able to play in the national hockey league as long as i did or even the fact get a sniff was because of him and don maloney and they signed me to a couple one ways and i'm forever grateful and he's done an incredible job in Calgary as the general manager there. I couldn't imagine the disappointment
Starting point is 01:21:08 in hearing that not only offering Johnny the one more year, but more money and then having him turn that down must have been devastating. Because now who knows what Kachuk does at the fact that he doesn't have his centerman back. So I don't know where they go from here. They still have to now lock in Matthew Kachuk does at the fact that he doesn't have his centerman back so I don't know where they go from here they still have to now lock in Matthew Kachuk the city of Calgary some people have been
Starting point is 01:21:33 very very adamant about their frustration and disgust and they feel betrayed by Johnny I am in the realm of you've done your time you've've played there. And when you become a free agent, you have the right to go where any, anywhere you want. And Mike Commodore ended up sending out a pretty funny message on our, our Instagram. Now I don't agree with everything commie says, but you have to imagine that at some point the COVID situation and what
Starting point is 01:22:03 players in Canada had to go through and who knows if it ends up. And have to possibly again. You never know, right? You just never know. I think that that definitely wore on a lot of players, at least a lot that I've talked to. And, and that you have to imagine becomes a factor. It might not come out of the guy's mouth publicly because they don't want to deal with online backlash,
Starting point is 01:22:29 at least more so that he has for the end up getting to leave after free agency but he's not only getting it from the fans he's getting it from local media who he probably had relationships with his whole time in calgary and now he's getting it from news anchors for crying out loud and grinnell you can roll the clip of what the news anchor ended up shooting at him. And I don't know if we want to roll the clip of what the Columbus news anchors ended up firing back, which I thought was a very witty reply and not going too hard at the guy who ended up chirping Johnny. And that's the news for now. I'll be back here at 11, unless a news station in Columbus offers me way less money.
Starting point is 01:23:01 And I'll probably go do that. Here's your five-day forecast. So salty. I know, but Andrew Brown, news news anchor your ship just came in from columbus because we here at fox 28 news at 10 happen to be flush with cash so stacia tell them all about our generous offer well bob andrew we're offering you the job of exclusive johnny goudreau beat reporter filing nightly reports on johnny hockey here on the nation's most watched Fox 10 o'clock newscast and our sister station, ABC 6. And Marshall, what are we prepared to pay?
Starting point is 01:23:32 Well, Andrew, the check is already cut and we are going to pay you way less money. Now, we're going to make sure it's way less money and we're going to pay you in Canadian funds. That's right. And unlike where you're working now, Andrew, we're paying for this. You see the signature there. Not taxpayers. So it's way less money, and we're going to pay you in Canadian funds. That's right. And unlike where you're working now, Andrew, we're paying for this. You see the signature there. Not taxpayers. So it's guaranteed. We hope to hear from you soon so you can know what Johnny Hockey knows,
Starting point is 01:23:54 that Columbus is a fabulous place to live. So there you have it. So not only has he shocked the hockey world, but he's creating even more attention from the from outside sources just beyond the league in order to garner more attention to the nhl so that's why all in all i love the move i think it's great for the league and i'm just really happy that johnny's happy um i i don't like like you said though like i don I don't I don't really. And I know this kind of goes against my early hatred for the Islanders, who I actually now really like is how much I hate the Rangers and their fans. But I don't. Really go against or disagree with the fans who like hate the drone now, like it's just that that's part of like sports like you, you hate your enemies. You hate somebody who you think looks at you and says, I don't want to be there.
Starting point is 01:24:47 And it's all understandable in terms of how you treat the guy and what you say to him and possibly write in his DMs. I think you're ridiculous if you're kind of like yelling at him basically through the Internet. But I do understand how people are so frustrated and watching somebody and buying the jerseys and loving his game and then him just saying thanks, but no thanks. And not only is it that, but it's like leaving money on the table to leave your city. So it's like that's what makes sports so great is the passion. But for a player to find the experience, and I know he mentioned how almost nerve wracking the entire day was, he doesn't necessarily want to do it again. You got to understand it's your right. Exactly like you said, Biz, you've you got to understand it's your right exactly like
Starting point is 01:25:25 you said biz you've you've you've played long enough that this is your right based on the collective bargaining agreement uh i think just as many people were shocked at the fact that he didn't go to new jersey which everybody kept hearing that he wanted to play closer to home and it even came out of his his mouth as he mentioned during the interview. But how many cases, R.A., have we seen where a player ends up going back home and it falls way flatter than what their expectations were based on the pressure? Of course, added on top of that, the amount of money they're making, so that's being held against them. Every member of the family, distant cousins, cousins you never even heard or didn't even know you had reaching out for tickets
Starting point is 01:26:09 all of it combined i i could completely understand why somebody would never want to go home home i think when we see a part usually guys later in their career when they maybe you know i can deal with it a lot better you know they're more well equipped to yeah, not too many like young guys really end up signing with their hometown team. I'm trying to think of one off the top of my head. And I mean, you know, maybe it's a virus to Toronto, but he was, you know, a little bit older, a little more experienced. I think that's gone well so far. Yeah. He's pumped deal with that media, but to, to jump on with point. Yeah. You expect the fans to be donkeys online and be upset.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Cause that's what fans do. But when the media jumps in like that, like, like this one one guy, Eric Francis. Yeah. And that was fucking nuts because that guy's a well-respected like for him to say like that he owed them is fucking crazy to me. I'm sorry to take away your quote. Go ahead. I says they were willing to make him one of the highest paid players in the game. And in turn, he turned around at the 11th hour and stabbed him in the back i think you owe the city a little bit more than that it's like dude you gave the city 11 years like you did everything i never got in trouble in the news whatever and stabbed him in the back like it's like what are you talking about and it wasn't
Starting point is 01:27:15 the 11th hour he told him fucking two days before free agency and then another radical and uh do hatchick i think on the athletic he's like oh he left them high and dry it's like dude i don't think they were gonna get either to brink it or fiala or anyways they didn't have a first round pick so like they were gonna be in the same boat and then i love this one they brought up like oh he's not in philly he's not he's close but he's not as close as he thinks and he brings up what about getting an emergency babysitter service if they need someone to help out it's like buddy he's not in fucking australia 70 million bro he's in the fucking Australia. He just signed for $70 million, bro. He's in the fucking... He's got 14 nannies. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:27:46 I'm like, I'm not to mention the baby's coming September. Usually, like, one of the mothers of a... You know, because the guy's on the road. Usually, one of the mothers comes and stays with him. It's just crazy points they're reaching for. It's like, dude, just let it go, dude. Like, you sound fucking crazy right here. But we're psyched for him.
Starting point is 01:28:00 But I want to ask you, Biz. There's this signing. They also signed Eric Goodbranson, four years, 16 mil. And they they are going to sign line i think it's pretty much a fate accompli at this time just a matter of how long he does are they going to get back in the playoffs with that with this they ought to i would think so i i think that next year that they probably will not make playoffs i i agree with you i don't think next year they're in but they got if they can lock in line a they have an awesome nucleus to start and start drawing in maybe more free agents they got a lot of young guys in the pipeline we know that yarmo knows how to draft and develop and i think that they have a
Starting point is 01:28:37 very very and they just got that new coach last year then is it the name head coach no brad larson oh for fuck I'm an idiot that's what I meant to say hey if I could jump in real quick there's one prospect I want to talk about he's a little off the radar his name's Kirill Mashenko he played in ska last year second round pick from 2018 he's the guy to keep an eye on there's a lot of talk about Kent Johnson Cole Sillinger those are the big dogs the first round picks Kirchenko, keep an eye on him. And if anything, Calgary should be thanking Johnny because that money that they were going to give him
Starting point is 01:29:12 meant that they weren't going to be able to finish the sidewalks outside of their new building. And now, therefore, he's leaving. They can use that money for the cement that was supposed to be for the sidewalks. I know there was a big battle going on between the organization, the city. Well, there you go. So in fact, Francis, you should be thanking Johnny for leaving.
Starting point is 01:29:30 And I'll say once again, I hate to sound like the guy dogging on fans. Players owe you nothing. Absolutely nothing. Like little, little, little, little, little, little less than nothing i'll say so it's like it's just i know people think that you know assist they don't owe you shit and it sounds bad to say but it's the truth yeah no offense and obviously you got do you think this permanently changes the perception of columbus where a guy like him goes there and you know it does for the short for the short term it does and if they go on and a guy like
Starting point is 01:30:05 Schillinger makes a big step up and Gani Corelli's Cornelli's talking about line ends up getting 45 like yeah they could make the playoffs and then all of a sudden it's like wow free agent sees that Gaudreau was willing to do it goes there has a great season the team does well and it's like wait a minute maybe this is a better destination than always has been thought of. So I actually have always heard, I've always heard how great of a place it is to live. No joke, no niche, no song. I thought one thing Goudreau said that was really interesting was when he talked to Kachuk, and Kachuk said it was a lot like St. Louis. I could picture St. Louis being like, I mean, I could picture Columbus being like the future St. Louis
Starting point is 01:30:44 because the media presence is the same. guys love staying there after they go it just they seem very similar yeah uh biz i saw you retweeted tweet about uh math kachuk possibly going back to st louis is that a no i'm just stirring it up i'm just believing anything the interwebs is throwing at me room boys well one of the cities we did mention the way he did not end up. Matter of fact, they didn't even offer him a deal. The Philadelphia Flyers. My new favorite team. My new favorite team, Chucky.
Starting point is 01:31:13 I mean, they didn't even make an offer. And then, you know, Chuck Fletcher's quotes, we don't have the space, the cap space, to pursue those kinds of free agents, i.e. Goudreau. They said they were going to do an aggressive retool. Some contracts are hard to move. Others we didn't want to move. They're a big part of our future. It's basically like they didn't even try. I mean, they didn't even make an effort. He is at the four seasons right now on the beach somewhere sipping a Mai Tai and he could not be bothered. And that's it's the off season who cares it's not he doesn't have to work i i have two theories
Starting point is 01:31:47 he's playing 3d chess and he's got this whole thing figured out and philly's gonna surprise everybody with torts and they got those lunch pail type players and they're gonna make playoffs or he's still working for the penguins. It's either one, right? He's imploding it from within. With the wild. No, I know he went to the wild, but his heart lies with the Penguins. I believe he won a cup there as the assistant general manager, if I'm not mistaken, with Ray Shiro.
Starting point is 01:32:18 I think, is that true? Was he still there? I believe so, yes. I want to say his first big landing spot where he was able to be an assistant general manager. I could be completely mistaken, but he has to either be working for their biggest rival or he's playing 3D chess. R.A., what do you think of my analogy? It's an interesting one. I think Flyers fans might be the angriest of any fan.
Starting point is 01:32:39 And I don't really blame them. Right. I mean, they got corporate ownership, which sucks. Like when Comcast or any conglomerate owns your team, it's you'd much rather have the Sniders or any family like the Jacobses. That's better than having fucking Comcast on. It turns into such a business already where you're saying like, it's like, look at the numbers. Nope, doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Like it's all about the net revenue. It's like, how do we pimp out gritty uh 16 times this season too like that that's they're no they're more known for gritty than than their fucking play on the ice right now uh and then yeah chuck fletcher man he gets roasted online every day he talks about an aggressive retorn there's no disrespect to the guys he signed uh nick delarie a four-year deal justin braun brings him back for a year and it's like you know you're a big budget team man like that's the money spent in all weird places it's just i I don't know. I haven't said that.
Starting point is 01:33:28 I wouldn't write them off next year, man. They had a good squad last year. They'll be better because of Torts. Torts is there. They're going to be healthier. If Couturier is healthier, Hazy is going to be healthier. And Cotterhart didn't play bad last year, man. That team stunk in front of him. And, of course, when you're the goalie, you're going to have some bad goals
Starting point is 01:33:40 and a lot of goals. What's up with Ellis? Any word there? I think he had a bad hip last year and then he probably saw how they were playing halfway through and he's like, Oh, it's still bugging me. I'll see you on the beach,
Starting point is 01:33:52 Chuck. Yeah, I, I don't see them making playoffs. I definitely see them competing a lot harder. That's kind of obvious. Who do you think has a better year, Philly or Ottawa?
Starting point is 01:34:12 I think Ottawa will be on the cusp of playoffs but i also we'll get to ottawa later i know i know i'm just thinking i'm thinking of teams that have made like listen the the moves in in the craziness kind of speak for themselves as to the maybe the mismanagement and the and the corporate element that you just described already but the fact that Chuck Fletcher woke up and chose violence on free agency day with those quotes, he's my favorite GM right now. Nubro Uno, there is not a close second. He is just going at it with Philly fans. And this is why we love sports. He's going to have to traveliladelphia in an armored vehicle for
Starting point is 01:34:45 imagine a diehard flyers fan that whole day and it's like four o'clock east and you're just like what's going on then boom deloria grown and i put his quote on deloria goes players like that around the league are hard to find just like johnny hawk he's growing on yeah i mean it I mean, when you know guys' contracts are up, you're playing years ahead of time to make room for it. And that's what I think pisses the fans off. It's like you don't do it fucking a week before, a day before, man. You got to map the shit out way ahead of time. So, yeah, lots of angry people in Flyers land.
Starting point is 01:35:18 But, oh, biz, sorry. No, I honestly think that the league, it's like scripted at this point at the shit that's been going on. It's like Bettman's running it all, and all these storylines are being created, like the Wizard of Oz behind the scenes. This is how amazing free agency was. WWF style.
Starting point is 01:35:35 We just mentioned who's going to be better, Philly or Ottawa. Well, the Senators, very active in the last week, and they're going to be much improved no matter what, especially after landing a fly as legend. Prized free agent Claude Giroux signed a three-year, $19.5 million deal. He's got a no-move clause for the duration. They also got Cam Talbot in the trade from Minnesota. They gave him Philippe Gustafson back, the goaltender.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Talbot's 35 in the last year of his deal, making $3.6 million. And they also locked down 23-year-old center Josh Norris with an eight-year, $63.6 million deal. A locked down 23 year old center josh norris with an eight year 63.6 million dollar deal uh average aav just under eight million it's going to take him through 2030 this kid's a young stud they're locking up all these young studs but bringing a guy like drew bringing a goalie like talbot is this enough to get them in the playoffs biz or what i think that they're just outside looking in but they're gonna be there they're gonna be battling though just like i talked about columbus i am so happy for ottawa they're i'm not sure whether this has to do with the fact that they're trying to solidify that new rink downtown and they need to put a more
Starting point is 01:36:35 competitive team on the ice dorian is that how you say his last name he has done an excellent job so far in Norris. If we want to start there, I look at this one the same way I look at that Robert Thomas deal, maybe a little expensive at the beginning for what he's proven, but come year four, five, six, this is going to be an absolute steal. I think it's a steal already.
Starting point is 01:37:03 I think he's fucking nasty. 35 tucks last year. He was incredible. I couldn't be happier for the guy and the fact that this team is now making waves. So well-earned. But you got to admit, that is a lot of money for a guy who basically just had one good season. But who cares? good season but who cares the Talbot situation I kind of look at that as Billy J Billy G taking a huge sky dump on the agent's car like like like from the top of the CN tower type of sky dump
Starting point is 01:37:35 mind you he gets to go and be a starter for a team who's going to be a lot more competitive than they were so I don't know if talbot necessarily gets fucked because of this but more so put in a situation where it's like hey you got one year left in your deal man and i know you're getting a little bit older but if you want to go prove that you can be a starter go prove that you can be a starter and secure your own bag and then you don't really have to share the net with flower so i'll throw it over to you with like what do you make of you think that that's a big fuck you from Billy G to the agent? Not necessarily because I think the agent just kind of wanted him out of
Starting point is 01:38:11 there. That's how I took it. Right. Like he almost got what he hoped for. Right. In terms of like getting the chance to be the number one, that Norris signing, I was playing golf with Kevin Hayes. He was telling me like, did. This kid is sick. And, and you look back to when you realize that you're going to have to trade a superstar that in the end will be a depreciating asset as he gets older in
Starting point is 01:38:35 the way that Eric Carlson was, was traded. And now you look at Josh Norris as being the guy that was a part of that deal. It's like that. That's a good trade. I mean, it was hard at the time and they had gotten to the game seven of the stand
Starting point is 01:38:47 of the Easter conference final and you end up losing Eric Carson, but look at what you have now. You have a true number one center and that line with Chuck and Batherson is sick. And then on the second line, you're going to have Drew, you're going to have to bring it and you're going to have Stutzel. So it's like, I think maybe we mentioned like that top six dude is looking really nice. I don't know if they'll get in playoffs. Like you said, Biz, I think that they back –
Starting point is 01:39:10 Their defense are too thin. Their defense aren't exactly where they need to be, but it's a start. And my biggest thing is I've long said Ottawa would be in my top five places I'd never want to play. But it all had something to do with where their frigging rink is. And if you've never been to a game, I'm telling you it's in the middle of fucking nowhere, absolute nowhere. You're just in fields, giant fields with nothing near you. If they get a rink downtown, dude, that changes everything, everything. And, and I think what you said to either one of you guys,
Starting point is 01:39:44 in terms of getting a team that can compete and getting a team that could be a little more competitive, it makes it easier to possibly get this rink downtown where then the same way, if the coyotes can get a fucking rink in Scottsdale or wherever it's going to be Tempe, not there needs to backyard. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:02 There needs to be like the rink in an area that players want to play in i it's so much more important than people think but now with this team it's going to be a better team they're much improved maybe that really helps them get a rink where the team could actually succeed because where it's at now is a disgrace and i mean we didn't really touch on the brink it that much you know I know you just mentioned him briefly. He's going to be on the second line with Giroux and Stutzel. I don't know what Chicago was thinking on that one. I mean, I understand.
Starting point is 01:40:35 My whole theory on that one, I had my Chuck Fletcher theory, but my theory is Chicago is trying to make that team as bad as possible to the point where Patrick Kane and Taves are like, all right, we're going to waive our no-move clause. Fuck, we'll even go to Arizona if we have to. That's kind of where I think that that situation's at. But to give Debrink it up, a young stud who can put the puck in the back of the net.
Starting point is 01:41:00 And I commend the guy in Chicago because I think he's made a lot of good moves. He ended up getting draft picks for Flower. He's gotten rid of a lot of, to make the team as shit as possible, but when a guy's that young and that good, I think that that might be one component that you want to keep, but credit to Ottawa for being able to lock him up,
Starting point is 01:41:22 and now they have a very deadly top six. So very happy with the moves they've made. And that's why they're at the top of the list here at the podcast as far as discussions. Two teams that never, ever would have been described as organizations that might be really making the biggest steps in the free agency market come July. So it's cool to see markets that kind of deserve
Starting point is 01:41:44 to have some big signings go their way. The same way biz mentioned with the Columbus fans finally fired up and celebrating for once. Absolutely. Yeah. I don't think I got to get a top four D, but they got a great coach DJ Smith. Obviously I bet the shit out. And last year I watched him a ton. The team never quit, man. They did not quit no matter how much they were down.
Starting point is 01:42:01 They always battle back. So, you know, Brandon guys like Talbot drew to bring it. They can only probably get better, I would imagine. Meanwhile, they had a deal with their, what's it, provincial rival, Toronto Maple Leafs. The Toronto Maple Leafs, man, their goaltender, talk about a merry-go-round. They ended up getting Matt Murray from Ottawa,
Starting point is 01:42:18 a third and 23 and a seventh and 24 for the old future considerations. Basically, it was a salary dump. Ottawa was going to eat, I think, 25% of the contract. Now, obviously, Murray, he's a kid when – a guy, a player. When he went to Otto, I was like, man, I want this kid to resuscitate his career. It was such a great story. Then, you know, I know his dad passed away, and he just kind of was struggling a bit. But if you're the Leafs, man, like, you know, you're a contender.
Starting point is 01:42:40 You're all trying to get to the cup area, and you're bringing in a guy who's somewhat of a reclamation project. It's a real roll of the dice. And, you know, if he's not the answer what does is this if a dubious i mean like um well not necessarily not necessarily and i know i mentioned to weeks on last week's episode like i cannot believe they're willing to put like their their their future this team that could truly win a stanley cup like in the hands of Matt Murray, but then the news breaks of Samson off. Right. And that is such a big signing because I will never sit here and say that
Starting point is 01:43:12 Samson might not be, might end up, he might be the true number one by the end of this season. And, and I think biz bringing up that Dubas has such a history with Murray and it all goes back to the Sioux correct biz well Weeks he brought it up but like when when I saw it go down that he's loyal like a dog to these people in the Sioux and one name that Weeks he didn't bring up was Bunting Bunting was there
Starting point is 01:43:35 too right so do I believe that when Dubas brings his guys in he gives them a level of comfort to where they're able to excel and play to the best of their abilities. All right. When you ask the question, if this doesn't succeed, is he done? If they don't get,
Starting point is 01:43:54 you got to imagine if they don't get out of the first round, they just really don't have any other cards to play. We said that this year, but it started to drop, but then it was such a great series. Correct. Correct. It was like, you can't.
Starting point is 01:44:06 Even the Leafs hate it. I said after, you cannot get rid of the coach or the GM after that season. No. But to take it, a lot of people are very critical of the fact that Dubas didn't make a lot of moves on free agency. They don't have the cap space. They sign the guys and they're rolling the dice or not rolling the dice let me rephrase that and they got yarn croak today i like that move they got yarn croak now that they gave him four years which seemed to be a lot of years for a guy who got moved at the
Starting point is 01:44:36 deadline went to calgary and i i think the overall perception is maybe calgary was a little bit underwhelmed with what he brought come playoff time um but i i'm okay they got they locked in giordano and got him at a very fair price i want to say he signed for 800k so they already locked in a great defenseman considering they're already the guys that they have um they didn't revisit Campbell from what my understanding is so I kind of felt that that wasn't going to happen when uh the the GM for Chicago I I don't even fucking know his name no offense he spilt the beans on that they were kicking tires on flower at the deadline and then Dubas was fucking pissed because it basically ensured that he didn't maybe have as much confidence as we expected in jack campbell well then i heard that they were just maybe so far off or he didn't even offer anything to campbell assuming that he was going to get
Starting point is 01:45:36 offered more years and maybe even more money come free agency which we'll get to later so am i overwhelmed with the moves that he made at the deadline? No, but he, he risked it on bringing in a guy that he's comfortable with, that he thinks is training and has a mind frame in which he's going to come back and get back to exactly where he was when he was a back-to-back Stanley cup champion for the Pittsburgh Penguins.
Starting point is 01:46:00 I am all in on Dubas. I'm pushing my chips. And I said it a couple podcasts ago i think they're going to win back-to-back cups i don't give a fuck who thinks i'm crazy about this everyone let's start with one screw you at least i have a fucking opinion on it i like the move and i think that murray's going to get back to exactly where he was and i'm happy i'm happy with with what they did in free agency. All right. Well, we shall see.
Starting point is 01:46:27 Another Canadian team who had some goalie issues, even though they went far this year, the Edmonton Oilers, they hope they have their solution. And the aforementioned Jack Campbell, who they signed to a five-year deal for $25 million. They also re-upped Evander Kane for four years, $20.5 million. Brett Kulak is back for four years. He was pretty big farther in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:46:44 And they added Matthias Janmark as well biz is campbell the guy that's going to help mcdavid get to the promised land i'll take this one over i'm an oil fan i'll say one thing before handing it over i thought ken holland had a tremendous free agency and credit to you and your team wit once an oiler always an oiler over to you and as team, Witt. Once an Oiler, always an Oiler. Over to you. And as an Oilers fan, and maybe sometimes considered the voice of Oilers Nation, this is about as good as we could be expected, right? Because there's not much money to go around, but we got a goalie. And Mike Smith did a hell of a job. He can't play anymore.
Starting point is 01:47:20 He's battling injury, doing the best he could. Really wasn't on him. Colorado was so fucking good. It didn't matter. But now you got Jack Kimball, Campbell, hungry, ready to prove something. And the Kulak signing was big. I know people talk about actually, wow, they were able to keep Evander Kane at a pretty good number. The reason they were able to keep Evander Kane is because I don't think and it might be the same with Nazem Qadri right now. I don't think the offers were out there that they may be considered would be. You know, there was no six year deal at five a year for Vander Kane.
Starting point is 01:47:51 And you look back at the success he had. It's almost like, all right, well, why would I switch things up? Things went so good when I came over. But Kulak was a guy that you heard was probably Gonzo. Bunch of different teams expressing interest. And he had a great run when he came over and they were able to bring him back. So it's like, all right, now we're looking at basically the exact same team, plus a little step up in net.
Starting point is 01:48:12 And granted, Colorado isn't going anywhere. Now, they did lose a few things, but they're still going to be there looking to win another cup. But the Oilers made it to the Western Conference final. And I think, if anything, got better. So when you look at the, the overall prior years of free agency in Edmonton, when things never really went that great, and it's really hard to sign guys and blah,
Starting point is 01:48:33 blah, blah. Well, this was finally a summer where you're like, all right, because of the way last season came about and ended, even though we got swept, the team made a big step forward and this offseason didn't hurt us in any way it
Starting point is 01:48:45 actually helped us so for me looking at like Dreitzel McDavid and what that team really did when they really started humming along at the end of the year I'm very excited for the season to come and I thought it was a great job by Ken Holland and expect some growth from some of their younger guys who just had another year of experience like Yamamoto was out with a concussion when they had a point. They got to sign him and Pooley Harvey. They're both restricted and they have hard rights. I think they're trying to get rid of Pooley Harvey. Am I saying that he's not going to keep getting better?
Starting point is 01:49:15 I don't think he's got the best hockey sense. And I think that maybe it's time to move on from him. Was he third in the draft Grinnelly when Copper went second I think yeah third or fourth overall because if that's yeah those two are I don't know about two and three if that was the same draft I could be way off there but I know but as I he's improved he went back to Finland that one year but it's just like I don't know I don't know if and and ra i i don't know if we mentioned this last podcast um had duncan keith retired at that point yeah we gave
Starting point is 01:49:51 him his props last yeah and and you know with him coming off the books it couldn't have worked out better for ken holland from a sense where they could replenish themselves with signing kane to a somewhat long-term deal bringing him back Because if they don't bring him back, that's a totally different lineup. That would have been a kick in the dick. Especially with the fact that they ended up moving on from Cassian as well. And to get rid of that contract and then lose some toughness and then get the toughness back and then be able to basically transfer that money just into
Starting point is 01:50:21 Evander Kane's pocket. That is a dream type scenario. And I think that the Edmonton Oilers are top four teams in the West right now, and they are looking primed and ready to go. I don't know who else they have in the pipeline, but look out. They could, they could get there. They could get to the promised lands. Wait, Jesse Pooley-Arvey went fourth overall in the 2016 NHL draft. That was the year Austin Matthews went first overall. the 2016 nhl draft that was the year austin
Starting point is 01:50:46 matthews went first i was right i was right once again i don't know shit biz you think that d still needs a little bit of help though edmonton yeah but but listen i think that bouchard made a lot of strides uh i think that he's gonna get better so injured nurse was was his groin was hanging on by a thread and you know they got tyson berry who's got experience who can help out on the power play so if they could if they could find some diamond in the rough in order to get help and and solidify a very competent top four i think that the edmonton oilers are in very good shape and and i i i i said it right after we left there i this that's the green bay packers of the nhl i want that fan base to thrive they're obsessed they're hockey obsessed they
Starting point is 01:51:32 should be in playoffs every year i want to mention not to mention that they're now in the moment of of that team's kind of not history but they're in the moment as an organization of like every deadline now they're going to be looking to add. So you can really make some additions come deadline time, come halfway through the year in terms of what you think you need to make that next step because it's win now mode with those guys and where they're sitting. Ken Holland needs to continue what he did in free agency and pull off a Joe Sackett type deadline to add the proper pieces for them to get
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Starting point is 01:53:20 And the Carolina Hurricanes, they're shopping for a Stanley Cup because they made a couple of huge moves. shopping and the Carolina Hurricanes, they're shopping for a Stanley Cup because they made a couple of huge moves. They acquired defenseman Brett Burns and Lane Peterson from San Jose for Steve Lawrence, goalie prospect E2 McEnany and a conditional third in 23. And they also got forward
Starting point is 01:53:35 Max Pacioretty and defenseman Dylan Coughlin from Vegas for future considerations, which is nothing really. Burns still has three years left at $8 million. San Jose is retaining a third of that, 2.7 mil. And Pacioretty is in the last year of his deal, making 7 mil. They also signed forward Andre Kasha at a year for 1.5 mil. But, I mean, Carolina was already a contender, Witt.
Starting point is 01:53:57 Actually, I'll go to you, Biz. They were already a contender. To Burns and Pacioretty, put them over the top. I mean, we're in a bust now with these guys, no? One of the truest things ever said in this podcast was Witt saying they just don't have a superstar. They don't have that game breaker. Well, they have what they have locked up as far as that core group.
Starting point is 01:54:16 So what do you go do? You go add more guys to the list who can just help carry the weight, who can help tug that rope. And you add a 30 a big bases automatic 30 goal score and patch ready and another guy a big body losing tony d'angelo and everybody knew it was going to happen because he was on a one-year deal at a million bucks with carolina he did unbelievable but to get a guy and a big body like brent burns the theme of this podcast is the small markets in the nhl are now thriving and i fucking couldn't be happier they are a true contender
Starting point is 01:54:54 right now they if you look down the list they have so many big names that can help win them a cup this this to me is going to be their best opportunity to do so and they got one year to do it because patches is only has one year left on that deal it's it's awesome to see and we're going to get to to vegas after and the fact of why they had to give up patches for for essentially nothing but great job by carolina to to continue the growth of this organization with Rob the Bod. I think that they looked at their team and looked at trying to compete against the top teams in the league and thought, like, we really need star power. It's been so obvious. And then to make those moves, I was impressed.
Starting point is 01:55:38 If they had just got Burns, I was like, wow, that's a big deal. He plays with Slavin. I think Brynden already said that's how we're going to try to start it out. What a power combo that is. And then, boom, Pacioretty's there. And it's like they now have guys to play with Ajo to end up hopefully getting Neches, whatever you say his name, going, who's shown at times that he's a complete stud. There's just so many different options now for them up front with how they can work it. Now, losing Trochek's kind of a kick in the dick. So that's a complete stud. There's just so many different options now for them up front with how they can work it.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Now, losing Trochek is kind of a kick in the dick. So that's a tough one. But they still have a team now that is going to compete to win their division and really have a better chance to win the Stanley Cup than any other year prior. I'm with you, Biz. Yeah. Yeah, certainly. Certainly better than last year. Looking forward to seeing them on the ice.
Starting point is 01:56:24 Pittsburgh. After all that drama with Geno, he decides to stay there after all. Signs a four-year, $24.4 million deal, a $6.1 million cap hit. Per CapFriendly, Malkin is fifth on their all-time career earnings tracker with $118 million.
Starting point is 01:56:40 He will pass Shea Weber and Yair Mayyaga with this new deal when it finishes. You know who number one is? For career earnings? On their list, yeah. Right ahead of Ovechkin. Who'd you say it is? I said it's Sidney Crosby right ahead of Ovechkin.
Starting point is 01:56:54 Yep, Sid number one with $138 million plus, and then Ovi about a million behind him. Which is how it should be. Not too shabby. So, yeah, they obviously got Malcolm. They brought Ricard Ra raquel back six years 30 mil uh they brought in free agent defenseman jan ruta three years 8.25 mil who just won the two cups with tampa so he brings that pedigree with him and then a couple trades as well uh they
Starting point is 01:57:15 acquired jeff petrie and ryan polling from montreal uh for michael matheson petrie's got three more years left at six and a quarter mil uh and then they also obtained Ty Smith from New Jersey. And New Jersey took him 17th overall back in 18. And they gave up John Reno back to Jersey. As the D guy, what's your take on those moves? They had to make some moves on D. Petrie's, you know, coming off a tough year. But who in Montreal didn't have a tough year?
Starting point is 01:57:42 And I think prior to that, it was one of those players where you look at like the Edmonton Oilers of the past and say, what the fuck are you doing getting rid of a guy like this? I played with him early on his career. I've said it many times. You could tell he was going to be a stud. Skates like the wind, passes hard, accurate, can shoot the puck. And he got over to Montreal and really kind of became the player he is today. I mean, he signed a huge deal. You mentioned he's making $6 million. And last year, I think they were looking to trade him. They would have liked to, but he was having a tough year.
Starting point is 01:58:10 And, you know, you can't really trade a guy and make it that much dough when he's not playing good hockey. But to be able to change how he was playing once St. Louis came in and to understand that, like, if you're the Penguins, you look at this guy, he can play a ton of minutes, dude. And Mike Matheson has times when he's so dynamic, but in terms of like being reliable and knowing what you're getting every night,
Starting point is 01:58:31 like every coach, you want to know what you're going to get Petrie for the most part, take away last year is very consistent, right? Whereas Matheson has certain turnovers in certain games. You're just like, what is going on? I don't know necessarily enough about Ty Smith,
Starting point is 01:58:45 but I do know that John Marino was not in Mike Sullivan's good graces, I'll say. Well, he had a great first year and then just... Oh, he had a monster first year and then just kind of... I mean, he was getting healthy scratch last year, and it's like, all right, time to move on. But the Petrie deal is big because I think it'll rejuvenate him as a player and a person, and all of a sudden you're going from, well, Montreal's looking great for the future.
Starting point is 01:59:07 And I think in four years, you're looking at a team who could be a complete wagon. But right now for Petrie, where he is in his career, he wants a chance to win. And Pittsburgh's gunning for another cup final before this all ends with those three guys. So I love the moves. I respect the moves. And I think Petrie's going to have a big year. Yeah. I look at that Marino and Ty Smith situation as they just need a change of
Starting point is 01:59:28 scenery. Complete straight up wife swap, both soft sixes give a hell of a rinse, tons of upside, obviously with that. And, you know, hopefully they can both flourish in their new environments.
Starting point is 01:59:39 I think both had very good first years and then dipped and regressed a little bit. So I guess the joke going on online is how old Pittsburgh is now. Like, fuck off with the fucking, oh, okay. All these fucking nerds online they care about. Like, the minute the team's average age gets up to, like, 30, they're like, oh, fucking put them in old folks' home. Like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:00:02 That move in getting Pet petrie that one-two combo of now having letang and petrie locking in evgeny malkin the fact that they ended up resigning raquel i thought raquel was strong obviously he wasn't himself after he got rocked against the rangers fucking hit dude jesus yeah i think i think he ended up coming back in game seven seven yeah and he wasn't. He probably shouldn't have even been playing. But it justifies what they gave up in order to get them, and then it also gives a guy for Malkin to play with, right?
Starting point is 02:00:33 And hopefully they continue to develop that chemistry, whereas I don't know how many times I've said it so far on this podcast, but Ron Hextall had probably one of the best free. I don't know what people's expectations were in pittsburgh and what he was going to be able to accomplish and bringing the band back together but he hit it out of the park and for the next season or two they are going to be able to make one final run for the quote-unquote last dance i thought the last dance was last season when they were going to bring back flower. And I had this whole story made up in my mind, how it was all going to come to fruition.
Starting point is 02:01:08 Well, no, but they get the chance to run it back a couple more times with the moves that Ron Hextall has made. It's just unfortunate. He didn't save all of his good ones for when he was in Philly. A lot, a lot of moves, but they, did they improve enough to be considered a bonafide contender in the East? They got Crosby. Theyalkin, LeTang.
Starting point is 02:01:27 They got good goaltending in Jari. It's just a shame that he ended up getting hurt as well. I think that there is not a chicken-dick's chance in how you can count this team. They completely outplayed the Rangers and deserved to win that series. They would have went on to beat Carolina, and they would have found themselves in the conference finals against Tampa Bay. 100% that is is my story and i'm sticking to it
Starting point is 02:01:49 this team has another run left in them all right a team that hasn't had a run for a while but they're slowly building to hopefully making a shitload of them the eyes are planned in detroit oh my goodness slowly but surely coming together in motown. Wings were very aggressive on the free agent market. Signed forward, Andrew Klopp, five years, 28.125 mil. Not too bad for an AHL. Forward, David Perron, two years, 9.5 mil. Defenseman, Ben Sherratt, four years, 19 mil. Dominic Kubelik, two years, 5 mil.
Starting point is 02:02:20 And Ole Matta, a year at 2.25. Again, that's a lot of players to bring in. You got a new goalie. You got, what do you call it, the two young guys there, Raymond and Sider. Are they going to be better next year? Is this enough to make them contend for a playoff spot this year? Not yet. Not yet. And Simon or Simone Edmondson, that defense, are coming over.
Starting point is 02:02:38 I've brought this guy up a lot. Wait till you see this monster. But not yet. And I think that the Cobb signing is their best one. I love that guy's game. He can play up and down a lineup. He proved how much he can score with the Rangers and at times with the Jets. I love that move.
Starting point is 02:02:55 The one that was getting dogged a little bit was Sherrod. I think you saw Sherrod struggle a little bit in Florida and you saw what they gave up for him. And now he's gone. You see what the fuck he's making over four million bucks kind of similar to how surprising the Gabranton deal was but listen they were getting shellacked at the end of the season Detroit they needed to do something where like all right we need to improve and if we're gonna pay this type of money for a guy like Sherrod the cap's gonna go up in the next year or two. And if we get two years and maybe isn't the player that we thought he's going
Starting point is 02:03:28 to be, you look and you reassess from where the team's standing at that point, but they had to spend some dough and bring in some veterans in terms of like there has to be improvement. And when you talk, I think a long time ago, before maybe last year, I talked about all, maybe Detroit just wants to kind of tank and be really bad for a couple of years. You get a high pick, then you get another high pick. Maybe get Conor Bedard after the 2023 season.
Starting point is 02:03:51 And it's like you don't want your young players learning to be OK with losing. And Detroit ended up at the second half. The first half was great, but in the second half, it was a nightmare. And you cannot go into the season with a similar type lineup and just think, all right, well, maybe we'll get a high draft pick. But these guys are going to become accustomed to getting beat like this. And so now you bring in some guys who maybe are considered overpayments, but have proven to be legit NHL players and can help this team not get to the playoffs.
Starting point is 02:04:19 Now, hopefully that's what they do, but at least take a step to be a better competitive club. Bingo. you got to learn from the guys around you look at like they got perron one of them that's a fucking awesome one awesome awesome signing and and those younger guys get to see a guy like that with the experience what he can do on the power play like all the little subtleties to his game that make him the the elite player that he is you have to learn from other guys, and you need those veterans in order to nurture the young players. And then they got Huso in net.
Starting point is 02:04:54 So this is, I look at them the same way I look at Columbus, the same way I look at Ottawa. I think that they're going to be a cusp team. They're going to be on the outside looking in, but just a drastic improvement to the shellackings they were taking the goon squad was taking in the second half of that season so how do you fucking say no stevie why it should be on it should be a league rule that he can't hop on the phone to try to sign guys because you probably can't even say no to him that's why
Starting point is 02:05:20 moving forward man they're they're gonna they're going to, they're going to continue to get guys. Cause talk about an undercover place to play too. People love playing in Detroit. And now that they're not a complete laughingstock, they're just going to keep getting better and better and better. And I best elect my pal Newsy head coach this year. I hope he has some success there. How did you not break that, that signing?
Starting point is 02:05:43 I tried, I try try i believe i put feels out but do you know who did the team that no no oh yeah eiserman there you go remember he was the only guy to not give in his seattle pick yeah yeah yeah i believe me i was fishing for it i was dropping hints left and right hey i have one of my best friends is now working for the team i'm not even gonna say in what position because i don't want to screw him over but he was like sealed tight don't tell a soul don't mention my name on the it's just they got what do you even call that when you have like this this brass that we're going to silence they have this code of silence where did you already say the word right beforehand? People would get fired there telling you.
Starting point is 02:06:27 It's all about trust. Stevie Y is the guy from the Fockers. Meet the Fockers. That's how they swear them in. They got a wrist of bong. Yeah, the circle of bong. This is you, Greg. I got nipples, Greg.
Starting point is 02:06:44 Can you milk me? The New Jersey Devils, another team that got a player that most people probably weren't expecting to go there. Andre Palat, a playoff savant in Tampa the last few years, signed a five-year, $30 million deal with the Devils, the 31-year-old forward. Seventh-round draft pick way back in 2011. He's got a no-move clause and a modified no-trade clause
Starting point is 02:07:04 for the last two years of the deal. Again new jersey just mentioned they also got defenseman john marino from pittsburgh they got eric holla from the bruins giving up pavel zaka and uh let's see were you shocked with that pilate ended up in jersey i'd not to pick on him but another city another player no one really had them going there um before really. Before you chime in, I just got to say that no team makes my dick softer than the fucking New Jersey Devils. Like, they do nothing for me. I know. I think, like, I don't know, playing in that rink, it's just – I know, man.
Starting point is 02:07:36 You hope to think that Hughes makes another step to become that dominant player he looked like last year, and I just don't know man it's like a such an organization right now that you feel like as close as they were according to johnny goudreau really could have used him signing there right just for some excitement just for some more blood in there in terms of like getting the fans excited for the season because i'm with you biz it's like oh what are the what are the devils doing now Palat, that is a move you make when you're trying to change the culture in a sense of bringing in somebody who knows what it takes to win. It's similar to Perron in Detroit in terms of this guy has played
Starting point is 02:08:14 in so many big games and has done so many little things that it takes to win. But it's going to be hard for him to recreate any of the magic he had in Tampa with Jersey in the lineup. And I mentioned that as people were kind of surprised, Tampa was willing to let him walk. That's a depreciating asset. I said it before. It's like a Bill Belichick. This guy is not exactly, in the next few years, going to look like he has the past two years.
Starting point is 02:08:43 And because of that, they're willing to move on. And then you see a team like Jersey who needs culture and needs a winner to come in and be willing to pay a guy something that Tampa just wasn't willing to pay. So I think it's a good signing for that team, but I don't think you're going to see a guy who's getting 30 goals and 60 points. Assuming they do sign Vanacek, who's an RFA,
Starting point is 02:09:03 they acquired him in a trade, how far away are they, Biz, from being not necessarily a contender, but just, you know, in the mix again, I got some nice pieces. I just don't really give a fuck. I don't know their prospects. I don't know. They just don't do it for me. I don't know what I, Frank, the tank's going to listen to this. And I know he's going to be upset. Maybe we should get him on to break the team down. I just,
Starting point is 02:09:23 that would be interesting and and you know maybe it's maybe it's because i'm a little maybe i'm being so negative because i'm a little bit envious i don't know if you guys saw the videos jack hughes was up like some white party in the hamptons probably getting rockets left and right easy fucking notches you know it could be that but i just i hope he takes the next step and I hope that team has success. I just, and I like Fitzy, their GM too. I just, I just, I just, nothing, nothing. I don't even want to talk about them. All right. Well, biz, just talking about Palat, we got to talk about the team. He left Tampa Bay lightning.
Starting point is 02:09:58 They brought back old friend of Vladisnav, the Mesta coffee or boy for another go around, sign the forward to a one year deal deal worth $2.5 million. And then they locked up three key pieces. They gave three eight-year deals out. This is kind of crazy. I don't know if you've seen this before. Shirely got eight years, 50 mil.
Starting point is 02:10:15 Sergachev, eight years, 68 mil. Chernok, eight years, 41.6 mil. Then they brought in Ian Cole for a year at three mil. Were you surprised that Sergachev's number, 8.5 a year for the next eight years not really it's he's so good and he's only scratching the surface to how good he could really become I think um they are so lucky to have him like it's it's it's just such a talent because he skates so well he's big enough to play against anyone he's got a great shot he's great at well. He's big enough to play against anyone. He's got a great shot.
Starting point is 02:10:47 He's great at the point offensively. And more than anything, he hasn't been thrust into a role that's like maybe too much too early for him because he's been able to just watch Hedman. And I would love to talk to the kid someday because there's just zero chance that Hedman hasn't had such an impact on him as a player and a person. Because when you're around one of the best defensemen in the league, every single day at such a young age,
Starting point is 02:11:08 you're going to nonstop realize like what it takes to be that good. So when they end up really paying him all this dough, and I know that's a big deal right now, but you know, you're looking in two, three years from to really make that step to a true number one. And I think no problem. He could, I really do. I think those deals with Solli too like the the way sorelli plays like yeah and be and being a guy who will be a selkie finalist and somebody who's offense will probably continue to get better it's
Starting point is 02:11:33 like those are great signings it's just it's just like the question is like where is their money how do they have so much money and like seeing them spend that much dough in one day was all crazy well they got rid of mcdonough and they didn't sign up a lot right so those were the two two losses and and you know you just mentioned sergachev and and what his ceiling could be you know he gets a little bit of added pressure at the loss of mcdonough right he can't hide behind him and headman so he got he was third pair i think yeah he he now has to take that that second defensive role and then they end up giving that other deal to cernak who i think he's proven himself these the sample size of these guys
Starting point is 02:12:13 and and what they got for a contract is what they've earned and eventually you have to move on you kind of talked about that bill belichick mentality and we're going to see if these moves end up paying off but they're not easy decisions to make but I'm confident that Breeze Braw made the right ones and then you mentioned that Ian Cole it's kind of like them getting the Savard again or them getting another Bogosian type player it's just they know what they're doing and I have all the confidence in the world that they kept the right pieces for that core group in order for them to continue to have continued success. So it was, I was not going anywhere. I was, I was surprised though, that they ended up moving on from Palat,
Starting point is 02:12:55 given with what not only has he done for them over that period of time, but when the big moments come, he was always there to deliver. Interested to see what he can now do outside of having that core group surrounding him, though, because 6 million was a pretty big tag for him in New Jersey. So still think that these guys are contenders. They're always going to be a contender with Vasilevsky and Nett, and no complaints on what they handed over to each guy.
Starting point is 02:13:23 Yeah, it wouldn't shock me if they went to the Stanley Cup once again. I know they're probably a little dog-tired, but that seems essentially the same, man. They're stacked in the dynasty where they could win a third, man. It wouldn't shock me. Well, fourth in the franchise, but third in this run. So the St. Louis Blues, I know one of you mentioned it already. They locked up stud forward Robert Thomas.
Starting point is 02:13:40 They gave him an eight-year $65 million deal. Comes out to a little over eight million a year he's got a no trade clause he has three through seven uh modified no trade in year eight he had 77 points in 72 games last year he really had his coming out party uh taking 20th in the 17 draft they also re-upped defenseman Nick Letty who they got at the deadline four year 16 million dollar deal and they extended Nico McCullough a year 1.9 mil I know they were you know had a good run last year and the injuries not screwed him up a little but people may be
Starting point is 02:14:10 sleeping on the blues a little bit because everyone's talking about all the other teams I mean this team could be right back in the finals as well no oh yeah and who gave Colorado the best best fight they got right yeah that's what I'm saying yeah St. Louis they took him to the limit man
Starting point is 02:14:25 i i it's funny like i i think barubi's such a good coach that that when you look at that team and like ryan o'reilly and the way he's taught guys now the one issue is being perron is such a big loss i know i'm just gonna say I don't think they make playoffs. By the way, you really don't think they make playoffs? That's a guy who him and Ryan O'Reilly had a ridiculous amount of chemistry. And now, like, I love the Tom signing. I just, I don't think they got worse. And they lost Huso, who was their starting goalie throughout the regular season. It's going to all depend on when Biddington,
Starting point is 02:15:06 if Biddington can have a bounce back season. And that's the, in the 82, was he excellent in playoffs for the time of period he was putting that? Absolutely. But he wasn't there in the regular season. Like Huso was now they lose Perron on top of that. I, I like Nick Letty. I don't necessarily know if he's a four times four type of guy
Starting point is 02:15:25 but they needed this is where though it's like almost unfair of us not knowing their prospect pool and in terms of like maybe armstrong's looking and seeing guys who could fill in and seeing people he thinks he can take a step and replace perron that we don't know about but yeah i i will i will say maybe they did they didn't improve this free agency the husso thing's true i mean now you need bennington to play good hockey which he did throughout a lot of the year but you don't have that backup you don't have that that safety net and and husso was good enough to really kind of take the job over you're right so perron's a huge deal also crazy that it was the first time perrant ever signed a contract with any team other than the st louis blues so yeah and i'm not trying to be negative either i just think that the losses
Starting point is 02:16:10 that they've suffered i want to i want to see it i want to see these prospects and who they have filling in for certain types of roles and if they do end up showing up guess what i'll put this fucker right in my mouth like I always do. You'll delete the tape. Let's see. I own my mistakes. I've got my head shaved on national television, bro. The New York Rangers signed Vinny Trocek to his seven-year, $39.375 million deal.
Starting point is 02:16:38 Comes out to $5.6 a year. Also signed Yaroslav Halak to back up Shostak and Annette, one year, $ 1.5 mil. And they traded Patrick Nemeth and Picks to Arizona. It was more or less a salary dump to make some room. You know, the Rangers were right there last season. They really don't need to make a bunch of moves. Is Trocek an improvement over Strom?
Starting point is 02:16:58 Or about the same or what? I look at him as more of a replacement for not signing Kopp, which I was surprised at. I guess they didn't even make an offer to cop so i i love trochek's game he's got a little bit of a sandpaper to him he'll finish hits uh he can score he can make plays he's good along the walls he's just a great just overall hockey player so a great signing in my opinion um i i don't i don't think overall the strome loss is going to affect them long term it sucks he was extremely well liked i was happy that after coming over from edmonton he was able to revive his career because i know things didn't maybe go as expected in edmonton but no i really like the signing and i think think that New York is being very smart about saving money not only for guys that they're going to have to pay,
Starting point is 02:17:48 like Keiondre Miller moving forward. I believe that Fox's deal kicks in this year at $9 million per. So I don't know exactly how much salary cap space that they have left, but I am still all in on the fact that they're going to find a way to get Patrick Kane at the deadline next year. Do you guys think I'm fucking crazy? No, I don't. I don't. I've said that. I hope I've said that that would be so sick. Everyone, they don't do it. I'll, I'll rip on him even more. I hate the organization. All right. Uh, Colorado avalanche. They re-signed four guys
Starting point is 02:18:22 who helped them win the cup. Uh, Valerie Nachushkin, eight years, 49 mil. Darren Helm, one year, 1.25 mil. Terry Leckanen was huge for them, five years, 22.5 mil. And defenseman Josh Manson, four years, 18 mil. Basically, Whit, what would keep the Avs from repeating next year? I mean, there's rumors that Khadri still may end up back there. If he doesn't go back there, that's a huge loss, right? You lose one of your top players, really.
Starting point is 02:18:51 But I don't know, R.A. It's really hard to imagine a point in next year's playoffs when Colorado isn't looking like the favorite to win the Stanley Cup. It's like you get in these grooves and you saw it with Pittsburgh and you were surprised the years it took Washington so long, but every year they had a good team. And now you just see this frigging wagon in Colorado. It's like my car is so young. McKinnon has so much more hockey. I think that the way in the choose can play it. It's like, Holy shit.
Starting point is 02:19:21 They got this horse buzzing. Now there's just so many different players there that are at the peak or not even at the peak of their career. And Lekanen was such a great re-sign because I didn't know if they'd be able to kind of keep him. And what a gamer he was. I mean, that guy came over from a Montreal team who went to the Stanley Cup finally, did the exact same type thing in terms of scoring big goals. So I don't see anything really slowing them down maybe if somehow goaltending isn't great um you know i i just i i think in the end though
Starting point is 02:19:53 that they're going to be right there come they'll be in the western conference final again i bet that's why edmonton's in such a tough place even though they get better and better and have these two superstars it's like this fucking colorado in the way so i think they're gonna have to move on from an important piece and i think that they're gonna move on from gerard i know but like they want it without him i right but that he's still an excellent piece i was shocked at manson resigning there at the cat pit in which he did no disrespect to him i thought he had an excellent playoffs um i the longer this goes the longer i believe that joe sackick is figuring out a way to bring cadre back the way that i think they do it is i think that he's going to be okay making
Starting point is 02:20:36 landis cog money which is dude i don't think he might even yeah i don't even know if he'll get that seven and a half dude i think that what's gonna happen second line center man he and the first time you don't hold on you don't think that right now he was probably expecting bigger offers to be out there hunt okay so i think that he's just just giving them time to make it work. And the way that they're going to do that with giving them a lower AVV or AAV, however the fuck you say it, is I don't think Colorado typically gives out the big signing bonus money at the start of the year like the teams like New York can afford, like Toronto can afford.
Starting point is 02:21:24 But in this situation, if they want to repeat in order to solidify bringing him back, I think that they're orchestrating a deal where they're going to front load the fuck out of that thing. And they're going to get a Gerard. They're going to have to move somebody who's a significant piece, considering they were able to get it done without him when he went down. And then seeing them give the four times four to Manson makes me believe that they're going to move on from him, which makes me – It's a tough deal to move, though.
Starting point is 02:21:52 It makes a lot of sense. Kadri in the first half of the season was a guy who was probably in the top five, if not top ten, in heart conversation for what he was accomplishing with the injuries that they did have to their lineup. I want to say McKinnon missed some time. i want to say landis kog missed some time and he put that fucking team on his back so we can call him a second line center every day every day of the week but he's the best second line center in the league or at least top three so do i think he should command at least seven and a half million? Absolutely. Because in some cases, he'd be some team's first-line center.
Starting point is 02:22:27 But I believe that winning and being in an enjoyable environment says a lot. I think the longer this goes, the more that he's going back to Colorado. I think there's not a chicken-dick's chance that he doesn't sign in Colorado. There. I think I've summarized that. Well, yeah, it seems like the longer it goes, the more likely he is to go back there.
Starting point is 02:22:49 Cause all the team would have probably thrown on the money by now. How much cap space do they have right now? And maybe G can find it. If you don't have it already, we can keep moving on, but they, they are for sure. Number one right now,
Starting point is 02:23:01 as far as is the cup favorites going into next season if they're able to re-sign Caudry. Well, it might be hot spot. Real quick, the Colorado Avalanche have $3,900,000 in cap space. What's Gerrard's cap hit? Gerrard's cap hit
Starting point is 02:23:21 is $5,000 until $26,000-$27,000. I don't know. It's a good call. Gerard's cap hit is 5 mil until 26, 27 I don't know It's a good call Some will have to go definitely if they do bring him back But gee, Chicklets Cup this week It's going to be hot up there, we're going to need a lot of hydration
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Starting point is 02:24:27 Good stuff, man. Especially when you got to get rehydrated in the chicklets cup. All right. We're going to talk about the Vegas Golden Knights. A couple of years ago, they were sort of what? The golden boy of the league, a little bit biz. Everybody was all over them.
Starting point is 02:24:37 They had that nice first year run. And like now they're kind of like the Goldilocks of the NHL. They're never satisfied. This one's too small. This one's too hot. They can't find the right porridge. And then when they do, they get rid of it the Goldilocks of the NHL. They're never satisfied. This one's too small. This one's too hot. They can't find the right porridge. And then when they do, they get rid of it for fucking future considerations.
Starting point is 02:24:48 It seems like they did sign Riley Smith. He's going to stay put three-year deal, $15 million. But, you know, they traded patchy already in a $7 million contract to Carolina. They got nothing back. This was after they gave up Nick Suzuki,
Starting point is 02:25:01 Thomas to tie in a second round pick from the keep them for four years, get rid of them. Same thing with getting Jack Eichel. They get rid of Alex Tuck, Peyton Krebs, a first and a second. That's a pretty good bounty. And also the goalie shit last year, Marc-Andre Fleury and Robin Leonard. They get rid of Marc-Andre Fleury for nothing. And then they shit-can Gerard Gallant, bringing Pete DeBoer.
Starting point is 02:25:20 And then they fire Pete DeBoer after 160 games. And then Kelly McCrimmon kind of implied that, you know, oh, Pete DeBoer, Leonard was his guy, but it's like, well, the coaches can't trade goalies. So it's like, it's kind of a clusterfuck there. What happened with this organization over the last few years, Biz? If I played fantasy hockey and I was a general manager, this is how my team would look. And that's why I don't play fantasy hockey.
Starting point is 02:25:43 This has been an absolute clusterfuck. I think it's an understatement to call it a mismanagement of assets. I love the Golden Knights, and I want them in playoffs every single year. I love how rowdy their fans are. I love how everybody hates their guts. But I just can't sugarcoat it. This is absolute rubbish management. I have nothing against the guys who have made the decisions they've made, but there's no loyalty in the organization to the players. I don't know what the trickle effect
Starting point is 02:26:23 down that has on the guys and and maybe how the guys feel in the room about the environment but this is has become a laughing stock and everybody's shitting on them in line online it's it's it's really well deserved and because they're so hated they have just been getting shit on more and more and more now am i hoping that it ends up working out for them yeah because i want them in playoffs and i want them to have success but i don't know man you can't keep turning over personnel and expect there to be you know uh i guess like a core of guys who can fucking get the job done with and that's really all i can say about it well they
Starting point is 02:27:05 they better i don't want to say win a stanley cup a kind they better go on a couple runs because the future with all these draft picks they've given up is going to be bleak dude and like they what read it off they didn't they get tatar for susuki a first rounder. They gave up the Vezina winning goal. He got nothing in return. They gave up a 30 goal score for nothing in return. And then what they gave to get patch already. I think that was part of the Suzuki, wasn't it? And then like they get rid of patch already
Starting point is 02:27:37 for absolutely nothing. So it's like the future looks so bleak in terms of being able to bring in prospects and grow your farm system and win the way that good teams have won the way Pittsburgh's won the way Tampa one with all those guys winning a Calder cup and Cooper, it's like, they are just going for the quick fix every single year.
Starting point is 02:27:56 And at some point that all ends and comes crumbling down. And you look at a franchise that's left holding absolutely nothing and not even a Stanley cup ring. So the lack of loyalty is one thing that's so odd. It's left holding absolutely nothing and not even a Stanley Cup ring. So the lack of loyalty is one thing that's so odd. It's like signing there. It's like, dude, at any moment in time, they're willing to straight up gas pipe you. So it's kind of hard to imagine a guy signing a long-term deal there and then seeing himself actually finish it out.
Starting point is 02:28:20 The thing is they have a good roster. The team is good. And Cassidy's coming in there, and he's proven that he can get a team to win. He can get a team at least to get to the Cup Final. And he's able to produce a team that can be at the top of the standings. But when I look at actually the next five to ten years, it's like, holy shit, this team could end up being horrible at one point. And so as a fan, you want your team to win.
Starting point is 02:28:47 But as you get to know players and you start rooting for different names and not just the laundry, it's kind of like, why do they keep shipping out all these guys who they brought in and then played pretty well, and then the goalie situation, it's a very confusing team to try to follow because you never know what's coming next. The only thing you know is that they'll give up assets for basically nothing in the end. Yeah, they're about as loyal for basically nothing in the end.
Starting point is 02:29:07 Yeah, they're about as loyal as that junior kid's mom. Yeah, it was this Frank Cervalli quote. He said, players that Vegas has been forced to unload for no or minimal return due to salary cap crunch. Pat, you're ready. Daddanoff, Mark, Andre, Flurry, Nate Schmidt, Paul Stastny, Cody Eakin. And I just mentioned the, you know, patch ready trade. I forgot to get to Todd. He gave up a first, a second and a third to get him and included him in the patch ready deal. So yeah, it's piss poor management.
Starting point is 02:29:32 Okay. So that's what it was. I butchered that off the hop, but I was just trying to list off things that like, it's like, it's not good. It's not, it's not good asset management. And that's just, that's, that's, that's the way it is. No. Is this going to affect players wanting to go there? Or it's like, if you're going to get a deal, you're going to go there. I don't know because it is such a sick place to play and like the team's good now right now.
Starting point is 02:29:54 But if you're looking for big time stability and then maybe there's certain guys who can get a no move clause and they're like, whatever, I don't care. But in terms of other guys, you do have to question it, but it is an awesome place to live. And the fan base is crazy and the arena is awesome and they're like whatever i don't care but in terms of other guys you do have to question it but it is an awesome place to live and the fan base is crazy and the arena is awesome and they've had some success so i won't say it it's a it's a huge factor all righty then um there was a whole bunch of other teams that made some signings i mean we try to put the the bigger ones up top but we're going to run through a few other ones here if you guys want to chime in just jump in but uh let's see and we don't have every single sign it's just too many
Starting point is 02:30:25 i'll say i'll say this just like i said about toronto it's it's probably a strong possibility if this team is unable to make playoffs or even go past the first round that they might have new management the following season because like there's nobody there's no one else to blame that they that they've had control of absolutely everything from the beginning and if it turns into a clusterfuck it's that and i'm gonna go back to what i said though i love how everybody hates them but i am a golden knights fan and i hope that they fucking rub everybody all the doubters nose and shit but i just don't know if it's gonna happen we shall see uh let's see the dallas stars uh they signed forward mason marchman four-year deal worth worth 18 million uh colin mill the defenseman two-year 3.7 mil uh jason robertson's
Starting point is 02:31:15 rfa god knows what he's going to get and then i i pull this that up as they spent over 19 million dollars last year for 95 points between sagan and Ben so you know they still got a few more years left on those deals something to keep an eye on going down the line uh Calgary they signed I just want to say I'm happy for that Marchman kid like after everything he's been through over the last couple weeks man for him to get a big deal man that's I mean finally a bounce because I can't imagine what him and his family are going through but as far as those two guys you just mentioned between Ben and Sagan, Sagan's been coming off a lot of injury-riddled seasons.
Starting point is 02:31:49 I hope that he's able to get a full summer of training, and I think that he's a guy who could maybe get back to where he was at one point. As far as Ben, I mean, the age and also the injuries maybe being a bit of a factor, and he's just not getting any quicker. Right. And it's just a league that's just so fucking fast now, but who knows? Calgary, they signed defenseman Nikita Zdorov, two year, $7.5 million. Matthew Kachuk still RFA. He didn't file for arbitration,
Starting point is 02:32:19 but I'm sure they're going to re-up him. I know people are talking about him getting moved, but Calgary would be, I think, foolish to do that. be that'd be like only the blackhawks would do something like that these days florida panthers i signed mark stahl to a one-year uh deal for the buffalo special 750k uh same thing with mike delzotto 750k and they also signed eric stall to a pto um pretty interesting he didn't play last year i know his brother's down there well you know what he got left in the tank what did he do after the skate we've been on a PTO before yeah that's how me and biz uh formed the clown crew in St. Louis didn't he play in the Olympics for Canada he did yeah but professionally he didn't play anywhere yeah no I mean you know
Starting point is 02:32:59 the guy obviously still wants to play he's still got that drive we'll see if he has anything left to give they had Joe Thornton there. It would be a similar type role, I think. So who knows? PTO doesn't mean shit, but with guys who've had careers like that, it sometimes means a little bit more, if that makes any sense, where it's like, all right, come on in. Let's see what you got.
Starting point is 02:33:18 We believe that we may need you or want you for the year, but nothing in terms of willing to let you uh or have you sign a deal right now yeah jack johnson went on a pto to colorado lifted the stanley cup and then had his kids eat ice cream out of it the other day so you never know uh the blackhawks we did mention them earlier they signed max domey one year deal three million dollars uh andreas anthony see you same one year three million dollars what if you were a free agent other than money what would make you sign with the Blackhawks? The chance to play a lot and then maybe sign a big ticket because of the
Starting point is 02:33:49 amount you played, you were able to produce. So like wolf. So those, those two guys, like they're going to play more than they would on a really good team. And then all of a sudden, if they have a big year,
Starting point is 02:34:01 they can possibly get traded at the deadline, maybe go on a Stanley cup run and boom, next thing you know, you're signing a three or a four year deal. So it's all about a sudden, if they have a big year, they can possibly get traded at the deadline, maybe go on a Stanley Cup run, and boom, next thing you know, you're signing a three- or four-year deal. So it's all about getting opportunity. But it's also like maybe they don't have much else going. And all right, let's go to Chicago and be on the worst team in the league. Now, when you sign a one-year deal, you mentioned the prospect of getting traded. Is that something that your agent might negotiate with the team? Like, hey, if you guys are out of it, can you maybe maybe get you know put them somewhere else that they can okay i'm gonna
Starting point is 02:34:26 say no i don't know i'm not an agent but that's like you know you're signing a one-year deal for a reason you don't have much uh leverage in terms of asking them to guarantee that if you're playing well they'll trade you okay thought it was interesting to ask uh anaheim ducks they signed ryan strome five year 25 million frankie v frank vitrano got a three-year deal worth just under 11 million congratulations for him both those guys i mean he was getting scratched in florida throughout the season and then was awesome with the rangers gets a good ticket so that's awesome to see yeah good stuff uh they still need to add some d in anaheim but they got 30 million in cap space so i'm interested to see what pat verbique does with
Starting point is 02:35:03 that uh going forward. They're just starting the rebuild. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. Buffalo signed restricted free agent forward, Victor Olofsson, two years, $9.5 million. Defenseman Ilya Labushkin, two years, $5.5 million. Seattle is pretty active as well. They signed forward. Andre Burakovsky gave him a five-year 27.5 million dollar deal. Uh, defenseman, Justin Schultz, two years, six mil goalie, Martin Jones.
Starting point is 02:35:29 God bless him. One year, two mil. Uh, they were bad last year, man. Bad, worse than anybody thought. But how much, how much improvement are they going to get? Not just off three, three guys, but just in general. Uh, I don't know, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:41 Unless Baniers comes in there and he's like, you know, 70 point guys, rookie season. It's hard to see much of a step forward for that team. Yeah. Unless Baniers comes in there and he's like, you know, 70-point guy is rookie season. It's hard to see much of a step forward for that team. Yeah, the most exciting thing I'm looking forward to is how him and if Shane Wright make the squad. Yep. And see what they can do. At least they have these young studs that we can pay attention to. Now, mind you, they might send them back.
Starting point is 02:36:01 I mean, with Bedard being a Western Canadian kid in Seattle, it's like they should be doing whatever they can to tank and have a horrific year and get him. And then get blindsided by the Coyotes getting it. LA Kings, they brought Alex Edler back for a year, 1.5 mil. Brendan Lemieux for another year, 1.35 mil. Forward Kyle Grundstrom, two-year, 2.6 mil. But this is a team that I don't think they really needed to do too much,
Starting point is 02:36:27 maybe a little bit of tinkering like this. They gave Kempe that deal. They got John Quick coming back. So they're going to slowly build them back to respectability. And Fiala. Fiala, exactly, as well as him. San Jose, we mentioned they already lost Brett Burns. They signed Oscar Lindblom, good for him.
Starting point is 02:36:42 Two years, $5 million after Philly bought him out. They forwarded Nico Sturm. Three years, $6 million. Yeah, that's pretty much it for most of the big sign-ins. Let me ask you, Biz, which team is the most improved since the Cup ended? Based on standings, I mean, I think Ottawa's got to be at the top of my list.
Starting point is 02:37:03 I just, you know, getting Debrinket, who's a 40-goal scorer. They got Claude Giroux. They got some leadership in the room. And am I forgetting a name? Detroit. Detroit's another. I think Detroit's a lot better.
Starting point is 02:37:16 I'd have to say Ottawa, short answer. Which team other than Chicago got worse, if anyone? I already said St. Louis got worse, in my opinion. But I still think they could potentially make playoffs. I don't have them making playoffs right now. I want to see how the start of the season goes. But, I mean, yeah, that was the only thing that came off the top of my head. Vegas definitely got worse.
Starting point is 02:37:44 They gave away Max Paciaretti and got nothing back. Right, but then they get probably a healthy Mark Stone back, and they were a little bit – and they get an Eichel coming off a false – You know who might be worse is Tampa. Losing Palat, yeah? Yeah, I mean, he was fucking a monster for them last year. I mean, Palat and – who was on D? Did they lose a D?
Starting point is 02:38:04 Ruda. No, Tampa's not much worse. That D? Did they lose a D? Ruda. But no, Tampa's not much worse. That's hard. That's a hard one. It is. I mean, the Bruins certainly don't look great. Although if they get Krejci and Bergeron, has Bergeron said anything lately? They haven't confirmed anything, but the speculation is very heavy. They're both going to come back.
Starting point is 02:38:19 In which case they do, then yeah, you could see why they didn't do much of anything on free agency. And Pavel Zaka received a phone call from bergeron right after he was traded so you gotta imagine you gotta imagine a guy who's doing that's probably coming back next season yeah good point g good point all right uh unrestricted free agents still available out there on the zem cadre obviously john klingberg phil kessel nino niederreiter, Calvin DeHaan. So surprised Klingberg is still out there with or no? A little bit. Like I said, I think for him to get big money,
Starting point is 02:38:54 it's probably going to be with a weaker team. Maybe I actually think you're going to see him sign with a team who's not very good. I said Seattle. I don't know. You hear you hear other other teams flying around. I really I don't know. You hear other teams flying around. I don't know why he's still out there besides the fact that maybe the money's not where he thought it was.
Starting point is 02:39:11 All right. One more name I want to bring up before we move along. Where does Phil Kessel end up next year? That's a great question. I got asked that a couple times at that Pink Whitney event. I have no clue. I'm not an insider. He's a wild card, too. Back in Pittsburgh?
Starting point is 02:39:25 Back in Pittsburgh, maybe. They're making a cup run here. What an answer. Bring him back. What an answer. This story, actually, I'll pay his salary if they bring him back. This one just broke right before we started the show. Edzo Olchek, our pal, he's leaving Chicago.
Starting point is 02:39:42 He's going to go with Root Sports. He's going to be doing crack and pop broadcast next year 15 years he had been doing the blackhawks but i don't know if he knows if he sees the writing on the wall if his deal was up or whatever but he's gonna be doing the seattle games he'll still be doing the national stuff obviously but i think the big draw farm biz was john forsland who of course used to be the carolina announcer they let him go went to seattle and you know they got a familiarity with each other. So, yeah, Edzo, off to Seattle. Good luck to him, man.
Starting point is 02:40:08 I don't know what they got for horse tracks out there, but I'm sure he'll find one or two. Yeah, he'll find something. He's one of the goats. He's an absolute beauty. He's unbelievable at what he does, and I'm sure he probably didn't want to call Chicago games next year. And on top of that, with everything that went on with the organization,
Starting point is 02:40:26 I want to say that he was at that town hall meeting when that whole fiasco broke out with the horrible answer by one of the owners. And he might just be fed up with, with the way that things are being handled there. And he, I want to say his name was in the ring to potentially become GM there. And when he didn't get that, he's probably like, well, I don't need to have any more loyalty to this organization. So thanks for everything. And see you later.
Starting point is 02:40:52 See ya. Andrew Brunette was named associate coach for the New Jersey devils. And one more hockey note here, agent Pat Person told the athletic that his client, Pierre-Luc Dubois would very much like to play for Montreal. The 24 year old Winnipeg Jet is currently a restricted free agent. He just finished a two-year
Starting point is 02:41:10 $10 million contract. His qualifying offer is going to be 6.65 mil. He's already told the Jets that he's going to be testing unrestricted free agency in two more years. He had 60 points in 81 games played last year. Is this kid maybe getting a reputation for being a... I don't know. I know guys like to manipulate and use leverage when they have it,
Starting point is 02:41:27 but kind of like, oh, man, this guy's always something with this guy or what? Yeah, I mean, he wasn't happy in Columbus. Now it's hard to be happy in Winnipeg, although we mentioned that's where his family lives, correct? It was his dad's. I know the coach of the Manitoba Moose is one of the coaches for Manitoba. So it's like that team, that team's in a tough spot. Fuck.
Starting point is 02:41:48 They got worse over free agency, right? I don't know, but in terms of when he's on the ice, there's games that he's so dominant and then games that there's probably a little more that you're looking for. So it's hard to really be under contract for this many more years and then already be saying like where you want to play and things. But if the agent's able to get it done, that's that's what he's getting paid to do. So without being on a team personally or talking to anyone in the world
Starting point is 02:42:16 of like scouting or or management, I don't know what the opinion around the league is on him. All right. That wraps up the hockey talk. And now we got to move it to, well, what was formerly the British open the open. Wait, you get the flaws. I actually don't think it was ever. I think in America,
Starting point is 02:42:32 we created the British open. It's always been the open championship, but so St. Andrews is the home of golf. It's where the, the RNA, I think it's the Royal and ancient, like their offices are where their headquarters are.
Starting point is 02:42:44 And it's, it's a historic place. I unfortunately have never been there. I've been to Scotland with a bunch of guys. We did like Turnberry. We did the other Trump course there. We did Castle Stewart. Some other ones that I, oh, we did Royal Dornoch. It was amazing, but we weren't able to do the old course.
Starting point is 02:43:02 So I've never been. I've heard, it's funny. I've heard some things where people love it and the experience and it's nine holes out this direction and then nine holes back the opposite direction. There have been people who played it and don't love it. I think it's with some tough weather. It can be like relatively easy, but looks like a chip and putt. Yeah, it's like that's the thing. This course is is not long and you need weather.
Starting point is 02:43:25 It's like all those courses over there are weather dependent to make them difficult for the top players in the world. It's like, it is so easy. So I'm a fan of watching an open that is swirling wind and rain and guys having a battle of the elements and maybe the winning score being seven, eight under. When you watch a tournament when the weather's as nice as it was in St. Andrews this weekend, it's like these guys are literally
Starting point is 02:43:49 hitting 360-yard drives. The place is so burnt out and fast. And then they're just hitting wedges onto every single hole. But where they put the pins made it difficult. And I'm not going to lie. I was really rooting for Rory McIlroy. I love Rory. I always have.
Starting point is 02:44:06 Seems like a genuine person. Seems like somebody who if you met him and ever had a beer with him, you'd probably enjoy your time with him. He's just, I know he's one of the greatest to ever do it, but now I think it's been eight or nine years since he's won a major and he had the chance and, and like watching the final round, I actually met Cam Smith fan too, but watching the final round, it was like, he just couldn't make a putt. It's unbelievable when you watch these guys and,
Starting point is 02:44:32 and people say like golf's all about putting that is actually not true. Golf is about your tee ball and getting the ball in play. Cause it doesn't matter how well you putt. If you're putting for bogey and double bogey in the grand scheme of things, you got to be able to get off the tee. Well, when you get to the pj tour and the highest level of golf all these guys can get off the tee and then that's when putting separates them and you watch this final round this fucking cameron smith the guy was draining he's draining 15 footers like it was a three footer it was just so money every single time. And Rory's hitting the ball pretty well.
Starting point is 02:45:09 He shot two under, two birdies, 16 pars. But it just wasn't enough when you got a guy chasing you down and shooting 64 to win an open. It's like, how do you not just tip your cap to Cameron Smith? Well, at the same time, almost feeling bad for Rory McIlroy that he played well. It just wasn't good enough. His quote after was perfect. He said, I don't think I really made any mistakes out there today. I just, I didn't do
Starting point is 02:45:29 anything great either. I, or he said, I didn't do anything bad. I just didn't do anything great. And it just kind of was tough to watch because the entire golfing universe, it felt like was really rooting for Rory. It's like at the home of golf to win an open championship. It really cements a legacy. Tiger did it twice. Jack Nicholas did it. It's like the greatest players have won an open at St. Andrews and Rory had it four shot lead. Oh no. Yeah. It was him. And it was him and Hovland tied and they were four shots ahead of Cameron Smith and Cameron young and, and Hovland fell apart and Rory had it and just kind of got
Starting point is 02:46:06 gunned down by the better player and so the the 17th hole was amazing he's like called the road hole it's actually pretty crazy there's like a legit road inbounds so if you miss the green right it's like a 500 yard par four you hit over a hotel and then if you miss the green right you're in a road it's like impossible and Cameron Smith hit a great drive horrible shot he ends up like behind this bunker where you can't even try to chip it if you chip it's gonna hit the green go long and he putted it to about 15 feet which is probably as close as he could get it and then he made the par putt on 17 on on that hole it was like and then he makes this unbelievable two putt on 18 for birdie and Rory had to make two on 18 and couldn't get it done so not only does the guy not
Starting point is 02:46:45 win he doesn't even finish second place but i thought it was a cool tournament i don't love the open when there isn't bad weather but just the fact that rory was involved and kind of didn't collapse but didn't get it done and made it entertaining and it is nice when you watch a tournament it ends at like three o'clock local time or eastern time so you kind of have the rest of the day but i don't know if you guys saw any of it goat ranch i'm not watching that yeah exactly people were disgusted so non-golfers are like what is this fucking golf course um speaking of that the other tour the live tour now they're gonna get this smith guy he's going over it sounds i've read an article um guy at barstool Banks wrote that there's reports
Starting point is 02:47:26 that he's getting $90 million to go to Live Tour. They grabbed David Faraday from NBC to be their analyst. Dude, that's a great guy. I think Faraday's hilarious. He used to have that TV show on Golf Channel that was funny. And then there's rumors swirling about Hideki Matsuyama, which would be, I mean, that would be... What's he ranked? World rankings, I don't know where what's he what's he ranked world rankings I don't
Starting point is 02:47:47 know where he's at I'm gonna say top 20 but so how somebody said 250 million for for because I think with I think with Hideki Matsuyama he is the biggest celebrity yeah it's it's Japan it's like he is the most famous man in Japan and then the PGA Tour looks at global marketing and looks at a market like Japan. And it's like, oh, my God. Like, I swear, I think if they lost Matsuyama, it might be their biggest loss. I guess Cameron Smith would be their biggest. Dustin Johnson, kind of back nine of his career, still a player, still was in the hunt for this tournament. Every other guy, I mean, there's some good players. a lot of them are on the real back nine though but if you get cancer
Starting point is 02:48:28 who won the players championship and then just won the open to leave the pga tour and then matsuyama who represents an entire country and region in terms of like awareness to the pga tour and fandom it is getting ugly for the for the tour yeah and And I heard these live tours are so fun to go to. It's weird. Cause you watch them online and it's like, it's a shotgun start. It's different. The announcers, if they have Faraday, that's a big deal. But I think going to the events are unreal. They're blasting music the whole time. It seems like a party. There's one in Boston. I'm going to check it out.
Starting point is 02:49:01 We're we're in Boston. Well, it's in, it's in Bolton. It's called, it's at the international, which is actually a goat ranch of a golf course. I couldn't stand it, but they're going there, and it should be a time and a half, I guess. Well, I would imagine if the PGA is going to certain lengths in order to threaten guys for not being able to come back to the PGA, they're also probably threatening certain golf courses to not allow live
Starting point is 02:49:26 events on North American soil. Yeah. I don't think any of the courses that the tour going on would ever like be having a live event. Yeah. Okay. Well, boys,
Starting point is 02:49:36 I got to get going here because I'm the security system is going to lock in here at Young's insurance. And I don't want to be caught inside because I need to get to the sandbag. I'm going to see you tomorrow I'm looking forward all right great outline you had all the signings you're buzzing uh gee thank you so much for all you do and and not only helping create Chicklets Cup but all the behind the scenes work we should thank also live event Lisa uh can you can you fire off a bunch more names of everybody behind the scenes who makes these things? Taylor Ray.
Starting point is 02:50:06 Taylor Ray has been running this whole thing. Justin Mancini, Kaitlin Walker. There's so many names of people behind the scenes. Hannah Crow. There's MB. There's so many names. This tournament has grown so much. There's so many people working on it now.
Starting point is 02:50:20 But, Biz, before we wrap up, what is your official prediction? Do you take down Noseface in the Chicklets Cup? That coward with no loyalty, with that half-chewed caramon on his face, is getting taken down in Buffalo. And I cannot wait to do it. It's time, Biz. It's time. It's time. It's time.
Starting point is 02:50:39 And I want to thank Terry Ryan and Terry Ryan Sr. for assembling the crew that he has. I will be manning the third line, which is the fourth line technically in ball hockey terms with Ollie and Jacob, the on the bench guys. And then our top six are lethal and we're tough. And those rinks are small. So if nose face,
Starting point is 02:50:58 if you don't think you're going to catch another fucking elbow to that ugly snout of yours, whole baby, I hope you assembled an all-star crew because you're gonna need it you sack of shit all righty that's what i gotta say about that we will see you in buffalo open to the public friday come for the live show boston levi dante spinning the decks thursday one of the biggest announcement announcements in Chicklets history is going down at the Labatt Brewhouse. I've already
Starting point is 02:51:27 mentioned the Pink Whitney tour dates. I'm done talking. It's time to play. We all have a great week. See you in Buffalo. Alright, peace. As always, we like to thank our dynamite sponsors here on Spit and Chicklet. So a huge thanks to our friends at Pink Whitney and New Amsterdam Vodka. Big thanks to our friends over at Roman. Huge thanks to our friends at Labatt Blue.
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