Spittin Chiclets - Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 526: Featuring Nathan MacKinnon, Ryan Reaves, and Daniel Amigone

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

On Episode 526 of Spittin’ Chiclets, the season has finally begun. This is it. What better time than the start of hockey season than with the new release of Amazon’s “Faceoff” NHL Documentary series detailing last years playoff runs and the key stars involved. With that, we are pleased to have the show runner Daniel Amigone, join us to talk about what went into telling these stories, what might have been cut from the show, and potential plans for a second season. Later on, we have the reigning MVP, and the originator of the Sandbagger, Nathan Mackinnon, on the show to talk about his off-season regiment, and how the Avalanche look going into the season. We might even see Nate Dawg on the Big Deal Selects next year competing for a Chiclets Cup Championship. After watching all about Nylander’s playoff experience last year, we throw it over to an all-time guest, Ryan Reaves, and there’s no lack of chirps. Could we see Biz Vs. Reavo at Rough and Rowdy? Does Whit have to be a leafs fan now? Is Pasha on to something with the Devils this year? All this and more on this weeks episode. You won’t want to miss it. 00:00:00 - Start 00:05:09 - Jeremy Swayman 00:19:45 - Amazon Series 00:23:16 - Daniel Amigone Interview 00:57:05 - Global Series Games 01:19:10 - Nathan Mackinnon Interview 02:18:37 - NCAA CHL Rule Changes 02:26:36 - Ryan Reaves Interview 02:58:10 - Season Picks Support the Show: PINK WHITNEY: Take Your Shot with Pink Whitney Enter the sweepstake at https://pinkwhitney.com/nashville GAMETIME: Download the Gametime app today and use code CHICLETS to easily score great deals with the new Gametime Picks! SPORTCLIPS: Sport Clips. It’s a Game Changer. https://sportclips.com MUGSY: Head to https://mugsyjeans.com and enter your email your for 20% BACK on the only jeans and pants you will ever wear again DRAFTKINGS: Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app NOW and use code CHICLETS.  GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, [phone] or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min. $5 bet. Max. $200 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 10/31/24 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. LUCY: Get LUCY shipped straight to your door. Visit LUCY.CO/CHICLETS and use promo code CHICLETS to get 20% off your first order. Subscribe for another 15% off & shipping’s always free!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/schiclets

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Myself, along with Paul Biznasty B Bizcinette, are here with the season begun. It has begun. It's not about to begin, Biz. It has begun over in Europe. The Devils, I believe, are a wagon. The Sabres don't look great. They got some injury troubles. But quickly, this is all presented by New Amsterdam's own

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involved with the big old bottle. The one point. The big old bottle. And Witty boy, Witty, you know it's the NHL season and it has arrived when Pasha is talking mad shit in the group chat again, thinking these New Jersey Devils are going to hoist Lord Stanley 2-0 overseas. He did look very nice. Very, very nice.

And Merle, he sends the text. Oh, Jack Hughes, no points. Wait, you got 81? Yeah, he gets two apples. Shut up, Mer. Stop mushing me, Mer. Stop mushing me, Murr. Stop mushing me. But the Devils look great.

But Biz, new song today. New song today. We got to say thank you to Small Town Strip Club. We do. We do. We had a nice run with those guys. I remember they submitted that song, and then we were taking those phone calls with those voicemails at Minahan's office.

And then we ended up having a new theme song. And we think year over year, we're probably going to change them and snap around the love to up-and-coming artists and a little bit of a little more chill tune coming in. And this is actually a band me and my buddies have invested in. Tyson Berry is a part of that. Ryan O'Reilly as well.

And the band's called Tenfei. They're from overseas over in England. And that song is called another way i love their tunes uh they just released their third album or it's coming out very shortly they have two that are already out that are awesome front to back so uh like i said the tune's called another way that'll be our song for the season and since we have so many morning commuters with it's a little bit of a lighter tone maybe not coming in with that small town strip club like banging anthem in your fucking eardrum so people can ease into the podcast and ease into their day in their commute uh with that one another way we're screaming at each other i

guess what do you mean well you know me and you just sometimes go back and forth and we can oh yeah get somebody's tuesday morning off to a bang sometimes. I remember that Detroit Ottawa kerfuffle we had last year. I believe we didn't speak for a couple days after that argument. That's true. But that's the game of hockey. It's back. It's exciting. We have a great episode in store for you guys.

We're going to talk about the Amazon series inside the NHL, face-off inside the NHL, which I was blown away about. We had Daniel Amagon on, who was the showrunner for the show. We got him. We got Ryan Reeves in an awesome interview with us before the season a couple weeks back. And the dog, Nathan McKinnon. Join us. Very, very special episode for you.

We are so excited that hockey's back. I cannot believe it's back. Quickly, G, want to shout out all the people who've gotten involved with the Breast Cancer Awareness Merch. That sweatshirt came out phenomenal. I love all of it. So I don't know, did you get some numbers? Did we get some good buys? Yeah, we're moving some gear, boys. I think we've raised almost around 10K so far. So keep buying. October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month. We have partnered with Breasties. It's a foundation that was massive in helping my fiance, Alana, and myself. 100% of net proceeds go to Breasties, which is awesome.

So help us write them a huge check at the end of the month. And the merch is awesome, boys. It's not bad at all. I tell you what, Whit, this guy's growing up before our eyes. Mikey Grinnelli, isn't he? It's wild. Year over year. I couldn't even get a normal haircut

when i first met him now he's raising money for breast cancer he's owns a place in hoboken i mean what has happened to our friend mike grinelli he's really on top of that on top of that his uh his main man jeremy swayman has finally locked in with the bees now before you go back behind the scenes here g you got to be over the moon ecstatic at the fact that it seemed like last week you thought a trade was going to be imminent on the chaos that was involved in the relationship between Jeremy Swayman

and the Boston Bruins and where they were at as far as contract negotiations. Yeah, I was crying at the end of last episode and people might have thought it was because of the breast cancer stuff. It was 100% because of the Jeremy Swayman stuff. I was in full panic mode, but we're on to brighter and greener pastures now.

Now we can focus on the things that matter. Who's going to play that second line right wing? Elias Lindholm, we finally got our one center. We got the biggest D core in the league. Charlie McAvoy is the smallest one, and he's a brick shit house. So I'm loving being a Bruins fan right now. It kind of sucks. It took this long to get to this point at 8.25.

That's it. But Bruins Nation is happy. No trades happening. We got our goalie. Now it's time for a cup run with somebody with no skin in the game. Bravo to the Boston Bruins. Jeremy Swayman, his agent on creating so much anticipation for this NHL season. Last year, we had the drama to kick things off,

and then this year, I really feel like not only with this Amazon series, but all that drama with Swayman and what was going on really got everybody engaged early, and we're off to a hot, hot start. Now, Witt, I'll throw it back over to you. 8.25 is the number. What do you think about everything that transpired? Well, it was madness. It was chaos.

And it was a soap opera that nobody in the world was enjoying more than Biz. I mean, Biz must have had 400 tweets about this. Just laughing, living it up. Just he couldn't get enough of it. I think he truly wanted it just to never get solved. And he was like, there's no drama in Leafs land. I'm just laughing at the Bruins. My tweet this morning when I found out the news, we're recording on Sunday, but I'm just shocked when you see this number that it took this long and it got this public and this

nasty when you end up seeing the final deal. It's like, I could have seen that in June, right? It's just odd. And a lot of people responded, that's because he wanted 9.25. And it's like, well, the team wanted a lot less. And they ended up finally kind of coming somewhere in the middle. I was very surprised. I didn't read all the comments in my tweet, but a lot of overpayment kind of comments. And I just don't agree with that. With the cap going up and up and up, you're telling me in three years that that deal is not going to be, I mean, more than fair to player and team. And actually, here's a nice stat. Jeremy Swayman, 25 years old, will eat up 9.35% of the $88 million cap this season. Tuukka Rask at 26 26 when he signed his eight year deal for 7 million ate up 10.9% of the 64.3 million dollar cap. So granted. Okay, time

out. How many years and how many games had Rask played to that point? I was just going to say that. I was just going to say that. I was just going to say that. So I understand why people may think it's an overpayment. I personally don't because I think this kid is that good. I think he's that special. So if you haven't watched the Bruins

play a ton and you didn't see the first and second round this year, I get it. It's like, well, he hasn't played that much. He's never been the true number one. I totally understand. I just think that this guy is a true Vesna Cup trophy winner. I think he can end up being one of the top five goalies in the league. So it's more about me thinking that he's this good that it ends up being a bargain at some point. If you're not sold on him, which I get, then yeah, you could be a little bit of an overpayment. But put it this way, with how hard the Bruins fought this, they obviously believe it too.

They weren't going to end up handing this over if they didn't believe it. It took a long way to get here and it took a lot of arguments and disagreements, but they're not handing this out unless they believe in them as well. So people are talking about trade. The Bruins wanted them and they signed them. And now you wonder, will there be beef that continues and lingers between the two? I don't think so. I think this is the business side. I think this is the game.

And yeah, you probably always, if you're Swayman or Sweeney, are a little pissed off. But buddy, if you win games, all is forgotten. That's all that matters. Well, and I think that they basically paid a little bit extra for that arbitration. And I was talking to Elliot Freeman, who obviously had everything going back and forth from the beginning on this, as did you wit. And he made a good comment.

He goes, you never take a star player to arbitration. Now I get that they might not have been in a, in a, a normal situation, given the fact that all Mark and him were splitting the net and maybe didn't believe that they had a star at that time to the level of which they would have just handed over the money that he ended up getting.

I just think in the way that they handled it with arbitration, and I don't want to say mentally fucked him, but maybe said some of the things that they said that he took personal. I think they definitely cost themselves an extra half a million per year because it seems like he was holding on to these things in which they said in arbitration so i just i mean moving forward you would assume that other teams would take elliot friedman's advice and essentially saying don't don't burn bridges there because they're going to have you by the balls by the time the contract comes up for negotiation now i was shocked when eight times eight couldn't get it done i thought that if that would have that would have been where the bruins were going to stay and then

it ended up leaking into the season i would have had no problems uh being on the b side with that one now people are going to say oh players podcast uh you know why would you ever fucking root for for an organization especially like boston where they've kind of, you know, they've made their money on, on underpaying guys throughout the course of their whole, their whole existence. Now, I just felt that at a certain point, the pendulum would have to swing in their favor based on the fact that not only is he restricted, but he'd only played 132 games. So with them offering eight times eight with, with that sample size and sharing the net and mind you we've went over this time and time again a number which goalies are getting like uh the ceroses the hellebucks that have played 60 games year over year we haven't seen that from

swayman yet so we've yet to see him being handed the reins to that magnitude yet ceros is making under that amount of money with the same numbers with a with a bigger workload and not being restricted so when he was holding out at eight times eight I switched my opinion to being on the course of the team side I might have even if I was Sweeney Cam Neely and the bees I probably would have stayed at eight times eight and let this port over now going over to what G's comments were before we hopped on maybe Corposalo's game the other night led them to give a buck up and pay them the extra 250 grand per year but ultimately they end up at the 66 million number where I don't think it's an overpay I just think that a lot of people online didn't

understand the leverage that the bees had and him being restricted and a lack of sample size. That's all where I was at and why I would have stayed firm at eight times eight. But I'm very happy that this got done. We got the drama and all the excitement out of it that we needed. Now let's just play some hockey and he can go on to enjoying himself with all of his millions. Do you agree with where I'm at? Biz, I totally agree with you that once they did get to the eight times eight, I was like, oh, fuck. Buddy, this might be time. You got your $64 million. You haven't done that

much to prove it. You've played awesome at certain times, specifically in the playoffs, but they reached eight times eight. But credit to him, he got another $2 million, right? And my final thought on this is, you better play some fucking good hockey now, Jeremy. Or you can call him by his first name now. I love him. I love this guy. I don't even know him, but I'm a big fan of him, and we'll get into this Amazon show, but you'll learn a lot more about him.

And it's hard without even knowing him, not being a fan after you see him in this show. But you know Fanbase is busy. You know the high-paid guys, the pressure's on. And it's probably hard without Camp. He mentioned his press conference, not too worried about missing Camp. And I don't know exactly where he's been skating and whatnot but you now have a big... With Bergeron. With Bergeron and apparently Bergeron's coming back this year. That's just what the

rumor boys are cooking up. Nice. We had that one last year. We were just a little early then. We were a little early on that. fans see... By the way, it's not a holdout if you don't have a contract. That's not really necessarily the right term that you could use for this. But fancy players not in camp and hear and see numbers that they're turning down,

and they get bitter about it, and they get disgusted by it, which I totally get. So you better play well. You better show up and do your job because the fan base will be loud if he doesn't. I think he'll be great. I think it'll be great. I think it'll be no problem. Maybe at the beginning, it's a little tough, but by the end of the year, if you don't think Swayman's going to be dialed in with this defense he has in front of you, I think you're crazy. And for Grinnelli and the rest of Bruins fans, it's just a relief because

if this were going into the season, it's such a sideshow that you win a game and you're getting asked about, oh, Swayman rumors out. It's like it's just stuff that a team like Boston has never dealt with. They've never really had to deal with like outside distractions. They're so laser focused. They have such a tight unit in their room. And now they just get to go go about their business and figure out a way to try to get a Stanley Cup. And they've had some great regular seasons, and the playoffs have been tough. So I'm excited for Swayman and the Bruins

to see what kind of team they got. And my understanding, too, is I think that G actually talked to Elliott Friedman this morning. Swayman was a big reason why this ended up getting over the finish line. Now, I'm not sure if the agent who has been known to, and I don't know him personally, but with the Nylander situation, maybe things were not getting delivered to Nylander exactly as they were being presented by the Leafs.

That delayed that. It ended up finally getting- That seems like rumors to me, dude. I think it's crazy. Do you really think he was getting deals sent to him from Dubas with Nylander and then not telling Nylander? No, but what I'm saying though is if Cam Neely at the press conference is saying $64 million, said to him from dubious with neilander and they're not telling neilander no i think but i'm but i'm saying though is if cam neely at the press conference is saying 64 million clearly they could

have been a time where all of them could have got on a phone and had a deeper longer discussion i think that they were basically bitter about the arbitration um the agent was carrying swayman's emotions and obviously representing his player where buddy the relationship obviously wasn't that good with the way that everything transpired if if a podcast is coming out with behind the scenes information as to why things aren't getting done and then they go three weeks of radio silence in the summertime the relationship is not actually all sunshine and rainbows right so I feel that if it would have been and that's why I said Bruins had to, in my opinion, had to pay a tax on bringing him to arbitration and saying the things that

they said, that that's it. I think that if they would have never brought him to arb and none of that would have happened, I think that they might've even got them under eight. So it just seems like those emotions had carried over. And then finally, with probably all the fans seeing this Amazon series, and we'll get into this with probably all the fans seeing this amazon series and we'll get into this uh with the showrunner daniel as you mentioned i just think that he was probably finally like you know what 8.25 maybe it's not the mcavoy contract maybe it's not the 875 or 8.5 that we are hoping to drag this out to let's just get it for the 66 million and let's let let bygones be bygones and move on as we can

do the same here. So congratulations to him. As you said, I'm a big fan, especially seeing that behind the scenes. Seems like he's got a great head on his shoulders and the type of guy you want in that leading an original six organization like the Boston Bruins. So stick taps to him. Hopefully we can get them on and we won't bring up any of the bs that happened over the last two three months we'll just focus on all the positives like my leaf spanking them come regular season and playoffs and you talked about him winning a vesna he'll be finishing

runner up behind my boy joseph wall okay we'll go with that we'll go with that shut up is so okay uh in other goaltending news on on the other coast of the United States. Oh, necktap boy. Necktap boy. Yaroslav Askarov traded for by the San Jose Sharks and then signed to a two-year, $4 million contract, was sent down to the minors. Kind of shocking. Now, apparently, there was a little bit of a lower body injury that might have affected him during camp. So that could have a big part of this.

And this guy, there's no way this guy's in the minors all year. But still surprising news considering when he let Nashville know he wanted to be traded, it was under the premise, like I'm done in the AHL. I've kind of proven what I needed to prove. I'm ready to be a full-time NHL goalie. And now San Jose's like, hold your horses. Now he's going to be playing for the Barracuda in front of 50 people every night.

Have you ever seen those A's? How many people were watching the Sharks? Fuck. Last year. Hey, a little fun fact. That's where I played my last AHL game. My last game of pro hockey where I tore my second ACL in front of 65 people in a building that you could hear a pin drop. That was it, buddy. Nobody gave a fuck. Nobody even noticed. And I just left the ice and

it was all she wrote. Torn ACL, soggy sub after, hop on the bus and the podcast began, bro. That's it, man. Good for you. Thank God for that ACL being so tight and weak. So he probably, like you said, he won't be down there long maybe just a little bit of conditioning give him the net when he heals from this lower body injury too much fucking in camp and uh hopefully you can get back to his winning ways man because a a lot of a lot of drama for a guy who hasn't played that many nhl games he's taking a page out of swaywayman's book. Yeah, I was just surprised to see. Now, I don't know how much that injury kind of affected him or had something to do with this decision, but I was excited to see him this year and with all those other young guys they got. And I don't know what's going on on the injury front on that team, but

it is a team that I'm looking forward to watch play when I wouldn't have watched him last year in my backyard if there was a rink back there. So it's a different time in San Jose, but we'll see what happens. He couldn't have been pleased. He could not have been pleased. But I'll tell you who was pleased were hockey fans around the globe in watching this series from Amazon. And this show, I didn't know what to expect. When we get to the interview, I said to Danny, I was kind of hoping for like 24-7 the way HBO did those behind-the-winner classic shows, and I think it shits on them.

I think that the footage, and they're very similar, but it's just like how lucky they got having McDavid involved and Kachuk involved and them going to the finals and Nylander involved and then being in the beef on the bench with Marner and, and Matthews and just all the, and Swayman's involved in this, in this, in this season and,

and these episodes. And then he had this whole storyline come out after I was obsessed with watching. I, the show was finishing up. I didn't want it to end as an Oilers fan. If there's so much in depth, like footage of Connor Mc McDavid. And you see there is no act to this. This guy and a lot of these guys you'll see, Forsberg, similar in Nashville, they just live it. There's. They got their trainers. They have their body work people that are coming over. And you have footage of it all.

And you get to hear these guys talking about different feelings they're going through. And I just can't recommend it enough. It is very cool that we're involved. I had no idea, Biz, that you're actually on there on camera talking a lot about it. I didn't even know either. I was during that bender at the end of the season. I totally forgot about it. I didn't even mention it to you guys.

But as I say when we're talking to Daniel, we're so grateful to be a part of it. And I guess my overall sentiments before we send it over is I feel like hockey is in such an amazing place right now. And it's finally getting the eyeballs that it deserves, along with all these young up-and-coming superstars that are allowing themselves to be a little bit more vulnerable and giving networks like Amazon, TNT, ESPN more and more access in order to grow. So it's just amazing to see. And I can't wait to see what's in the future after seeing this unbelievable six part series in which, like you said, they really covered it all. And the fact that they were able to get lucky enough to capture Nylander and Pasta in one episode together

in which they have a history of being friends when they played together in Sweden, when Pasta moved over to play as a young man, and then all the chaos that ensued throughout that series and Pasta getting called out by Montgomery and then him scoring the winner. So just to relive it and see it behind the scenes was a treat. So a credit to Amazon,

Daniel and everybody else involved in what they did in order to present this to not only hardcore hockey fans, but casual sports fans, which I think will draw them in. And now, which will probably be them following Connor McDavid and his obsession with winning and hopefully, which is eventually him reaching, uh, you know, the, the obsession with winning and hopefully which is eventually him

reaching the ultimate goal which is Lord Stanley. I know I was long-winded there with it but we're grateful to be a part of it and this is awesome. How funny is that first episode too and obviously we're giving away some spoilers but just check it out no matter what but

Nylander and Pasta are out to dinner the night before the Bruins play in Toronto with like 15, 20 games to go left in the year. And I think Pasta says, like, oh, right now we're lined up to play each other again. And Nylander's like, who's in first place? He's like, oh, Florida. There's no joke with Nylander. He's just a sick hockey player that's into fashion and just sleeping in by the sounds of it. So we're going to throw it to Daniel right now.

We want to say thank you to him. And I hope you all enjoy it and definitely check out the show if you haven't yet. So here's Daniel Amagon from the showrunner inside the NHL. We are now pleased to be joined by a very special person in the current NHL day we're at, Faze, because this man is the showrunner, Daniel Amagon of the face-off inside the NHL with Amazon. One of the coolest things I've ever watched. So excited that you're joining us. Thank you very much. How you doing? very much. How are you doing? Guys, thanks so much for having me. Doing well. It's been a labor of love over the last year or so, but it's out in the world now and the feedback's been awesome. So appreciate you guys having me. Oh, it's awesome. We appreciate you. And so going into it, I didn't really know what to expect. Kind of hoping best case for an original... Remember the inside look

to the outdoor classic back in the day? I was blown away. I was with a buddy who isn't necessarily the biggest hockey fan. He couldn't get enough. Just the in-depth, where you catch these guys, how vulnerable they are, how you get to see Connor McDavid in a way

nobody's ever seen him. It was just outstanding work. And I was wondering for you, what was the most difficult part about getting the guys to buy in like was it was it was it begging some guys almost you know what i you know you mentioned the outdoor classic game i i worked on that for hbo back you know a decade ago so i've kind of i've been around a lot of hockey locker rooms you know grew up playing hockey you know i was this morning at my son's U10 game. Shout out to the Jersey Wolves out here in Rocklare, New Jersey.

So, you know, hockey is in my blood. And I felt like I always wanted to go a little bit deeper, go a little bit further, go a little bit more personal. You know, the NHL is so great about ultimate team game, team first, tallest poppy syndrome. No one wants to stick their head up. team game team first tallest poppy syndrome no one wants to stick their head up um but there's a new generation right now i feel like in the world of hockey where these guys are they have a swag they have a personality they want it out there they see a benefit in it and so on day one there was that you know when when we sat down to make this list of okay who are we going to go after

it was the guys who you would think would want to do this. So that was the first step. But then when we sat down, we were at All-Star and sat down with a good dozen of these guys. The Euros watched Drive to Survive, which our company does. The Americans and the Canadian guys watched Full Swing, our company does. And I did the first season of, so there's, there was an understanding of like, we know what you're after. We, we appreciate the work you guys do. And, and we want hockey to have, you know, uh, it's turn. So it was kind of at the all-star game where you found out who are you going to get, but like, did you know that you were going to get them like going into playoffs and at playoff time? Cause that's what surprised me the most is not only getting the access from these teams but getting it with those guys during that time of year that's why i was shocked even the first episode

getting pasta and nylander and then they're facing off against each other which must have been a dream scenario for you guys when all this ended up working out 100 you got to get a little lucky on these shows but, you can't really ever know for sure until it happens as far as access in those high pressure, you know, playoff game seven moments, but you tell them on day one, it's like, Hey, we're not sitting down and investing this time and money. If it's not going to be, yeah. You know, if we can't see this all the way through. And of course, everyone's like, yeah, of course, yeah, of course, yeah, of course. And then it gets down to that day and that morning and that those intermissions and, and, you know, luckily, you know, almost across the board,

everyone was, you know, kept their word and, and, you know, we're, we're respectful. We don't roll in with 10 cameras and lights and all this. really tried to fade into the woodwork you know almost be a part of the team you're never a part of the team but you know almost like um make it so you're not a distraction the last thing you ever want to be is something that the guy's even thinking of on that day so just quickly going back to that first episode too like you guys must have been salivating at all the chaos that was happening in the midst of that series with first of all your guy Nylander not getting to play in the first three games like what was all that like in real time and dealing with all all those emotions sorry Daniel I got to interrupt because I have a question on top of that my wife's watch with me

she's like is this really Nylander watching the game and I was like I think it is like it was crazy that was one of those moments where you kind of pinch yourself. You're like, you know, not only it was the entire hockey world is talking about William Nylander. Where is he? What is going on with him?

What's up with his injury? We literally are sitting there with him. We're the only ones who know it felt like we were, you know, chasing a spy. You know, it was like, it was really intense,

like, you know, an intense hockey story. And then the other story is like Wayman standing on his head and turning into Superman. It's like, we are at the center of both of the best stories in hockey right now. There was some dumb luck involved in that, but I think we chose our characters and our stories well, I guess.

But I mean, Willie, it was stressful because Willie was the first guy that sat down with us at all star. It was, you know, immediately you're like, okay, this guy's got the look that, you know, he's, he's just cool. He's great on camera. And then we thought maybe he's not going to play in the playoffs. It's like, we've put all this time and effort into this guy and poof, there goes our show. You know, what, what are we doing now?

It's not like, you know, um, there was another leaf that was, that had full buy-in at that point. So, um, I, we were, we were kind of crapping our pants for a minute there, um, to figure out what to do. But then the fact that he was like, yeah, come on over and watch game three with me. Um, really that was like, okay, we can do something here and i've never you know i've been doing these shows for a long time and i've never had that level of yeah shoot whatever you want and and you know trust and and it it really that's that's what we need that's what we need to make these shows we need that trust level on the other side of the camera um in order to make these things great and willie was that from day one. We literally showed up at his apartment. As you probably know, Biz, the kid doesn't wake up before noon, but we showed up at 8.30 and he's, okay, what do you guys want to do all day? Walk

the dogs, going to lunch. Put on my white tank top. Yeah. I've never been around a human being that wears a shirt you know let as less frequent as you just tarps off immediately but i mean i if i looked like that i probably would too but as if the ladies in leaf leaf land didn't need any more access i say exactly that's unbelievable hey and on top of that at the end of that episode where where you got the coach out pasta, Monty saying we need more, and then he delivers the goal. So the first episode really just sets the tone for the rest of the series. And like you said, there's a lot of luck that goes involved, but you guys did such an excellent job of just capturing all of it and portraying it. I was getting goosebumps again, but I thought that the end was going to be different this time. I was just praying that there was going to be a different end. All right. We'll work on that for season two to be a different end. All right. We'll work on that for season two. We'll see what we can do.

We'll pull some strings. Awesome. Besides you guys, I mean, I got to give credit to the players, right? Because they end up allowing you guys in, and I bet you they got more comfortable as it went along, and you really saw guys' personalities you've always heard of, but somebody like

Swayman like a very laid-back cerebral guy his family means so much to him and it was just really cool to get to you felt like you get to know guys and one of them being like matthew kachuk i think he was born to do this show and whoever's doing the editing and all that stuff like biz i don't know if you've gotten to the end but they're going with they're with mcdavid and he's you could tell he's uptight he's just so into it and then it just pants to kachuk getting out of the pool putting the sunglasses on like razor ramon and just seeing him with his family and like how relaxed he was in florida you could tell the difference in those two teams in the finals based on just this show 100 100 and yeah that he is the perfect heel you know and then

uh you know guy to play against connor and he has a little comment of like i'm not even sure they have fools in edmonton you know it was it was like you could not script it better for this guy and you know and like you say it's we we can't really do our job if those guys aren't bought into that to that level and i I think people will see him. I think people know, you know, what he's like from his press conferences, from the things they've seen about him. But to me, I think this will give a deeper understanding of who this guy is, what makes him tick and how much his family is important to him and how he's, you know, if I'm drafting a team and putting together a championship team he's pretty pretty close to the top of the list so based on episode three i think a lot of boston's fans are salivating at seeing that knowing they got their guy locked in for eight more years

did you feel a little bit more emotionally invested in these kind of negotiations back and forth because of the time you spent with swaymanman. And like you said, I believe your quote is, you've never seen a player be more open and honest than Jeremy Swayman was in that third episode. 100%. Yeah, I mean, he really set a new bar. I sound like the president of the Jeremy Swayman fan club, but he was just unbelievable.

He literally is sending me text messages two hours before a game of him strumming his guitar and as laid back as it can be but dialed in too. He's just a different cat. As you guys know, goalies are a different breed and you often can't go anywhere near him on game day. This guy

is sending me selfies two hours before puck drop. It's unbelievable but I think he's a really smart guy and he saw this as an opportunity. You know, I, we went into all-star with a list of, of guys, the, the ones you would imagine, I wouldn't say Swayman was at the top of that list, but then he came in and sat down and just, it poured out of him. He's like, this is what's important to me. You guys can, you know,

anything you want to film, you know, it was clear that arbitration was something that was still on his mind and you know um that he was willing to talk about it and yeah i mean as the negotiations have gone on in the last few weeks i've been like please get this guy signed like and you know but then secretly like hey maybe you want to wait till the show comes out maybe you can get a couple more bucks out of him because he looks pretty damn good. I don't know if it's episode five or six,

which are both basically like the finals in Edmonton and Florida. It's awesome, the finish to this whole series. But Leon Dreisel is talking about, yeah, I think people think I'm grumpy and sometimes I am, but he seems so much more friendly and outgoing than that. Then he

comes off as in the media in that episode. Right. And it was cool hearing him talk about loving the, like wanting to be somewhere where hockey's everything. It makes a lot of sense with him resigning a hundred percent. And I mean, that was, again, you go in with so many preconceptions of these guys and Leon was someone I was a little bit nervous to even like sit down and have a conversation with is this guy gonna bite my head off you know is pissy leon gonna come out and and honestly he's just dry he's just like that's that's his personality and he's you know handsome devil sits down and you're like oh god i could make a a tv show out of this guy pretty easily so i'm i'm hoping that you know if we get another crack at this we can kind of switch the you know this one was pretty mcdavid heavy i think there's so much left on the bone for leon to to dive even deeper into his story when you say can you get another

crack at it so like what's up for the the next go around it's happening it isn't who do you have like can you kind of divulge what what the details are imagine plenty of guys are, I want to be featured now because of what it will do for their profile. I think that every single player got painted in better light after watching that whole series. Nice. Yeah. No, the response from the players from the NHLPA has been awesome. I think they are. The players are ready.

You know, it's as always with these networks and streamers, they have their metrics they need to hit to make sure that it's worth going again. But I've been so impressed with the support we've had from the NHL, from the PA, from Amazon. I would be shocked. I've seen stranger things in this business, unfortunately. But I think the momentum, I think we would have had really needed to lay an egg with the series for it not to be renewed and i'm i'm hoping people like it enough you know if everyone listening to this can watch it 10 times we'll we'll get started next week is there anything that the nhl or the players asked you to cut uh out of this because i feel like even like the

mcdavid snap show i couldn't imagine something happening worse than that and i was really happy that you guys kept it because it showed his raw emotion which we don't normally get to see from a span standpoint but i'm sure that there were some things that they ask you to maybe hold back and and not put in there there were but this was the and like i said i've worked on so many shows with the nhl and they definitely have carried a bigger stick in the past. And, and this was very much an understanding from day one that we need to let these guys tell the stories they want to tell and put that trust in them. And so it was, it was always a conversation. And at the same time, I'm not trying to make these guys look stupid. If there's something they wanted out that, you know, is a silly little thing that doesn't affect the story in any way. It's no skin off my back, you know, it's totally fine. So it no, you know, the Marner

glove toss, you know, Connor in the locker room, those were things that were certainly discussions multiple, you know, the Swayman arbitration thing. So like those were discussions, but it was never a, Hey, you got to take this out it was let's understand where we're coming from here and and make sure we understand the ramifications but to their credit you know they they you know were steadfast in keeping it in and especially those connor moments those were as soon as they happened i was like please let the world see this this could be something that really as a hockey fan as someone who's been in these locker rooms you know we when we were filming that everyone in

that room thought it was cory perry or some other vet like losing their shit and really going off we come around the corner and it's 97 you know the maybe the greatest player to ever lace him up you know really losing it and and showing player to ever lace them up, you know, really losing it and, and showing that emotion and, and being that leader that people have asked them to be for so long. I think, you know, as soon as we saw that, we knew that it would be a discussion of like, can this survive? Can this stay in? But to Connor's credit, and honestly, I think it was, it did come from Connor of like, no, like I signed up for this. This was my, my goal was to show people these things they've never seen to take people in

the rooms they've never been in, you know, that they've heard about. You always hear about how much these guys care, what it looks like a win or a loss. You know, we were able to show it here and Connor was like, no, that they, they caught that on, on, on tape. And, you know, that was real. You know, it's not like we manufactured it anyway. And then he goes and puts his team on his back for three games. And, you know, so I think it's to his credit, you know, specifically, the guys really backed it up.

Anything that was even on the line and, you know willie with the bench moment as well it's like that the guys knew it was real they knew that they had signed up for this and and i think there's there's a real urge for these guys to let people know who they are on a on a deep personal level and and you know i'm hoping that you know we were able to show that i was just gonna say outside of the obvious were there any moments that really stuck out to you? Maybe some things that happened behind the scenes, like maybe a story with Keith Kachuk or something like that, getting to hang out with the Kachuk family?

Keith Sabu, he probably had 17 red wines in every game. The guy's unbelievable. So we mic'd him up for the you know when all the elimination games so you know florida goes up three nothing it's like okay keith can we put a mic on you it'd be cool to have a mic on you well you know when this moment happens and he's like yeah yeah yeah no problem they lose they lose they lose i go up to him game seven he's like get the fuck away from me and luckily brady's seven. He's like, get the fuck away. Luckily, Brady's standing there.

He's like, yeah, put it on me. Put it on me. So we were able to get that that moment of them. I mean, talk about like just just a release, you know, and to be just I mean, we are right there as Keith and Brady are hugging and losing their minds as, as, uh, as, as Matthew's winning, winning the cup. So, um, yeah, Keith was an absolute beaut and is, as you guys know, I'm sure exactly who he is, um, on camera, um, every day of his life. So, um, that was, but yeah, I mean, a million, a million moments that, you know, hit the cutting room floor, but, um, you know, hopefully again, we get to do this again and we can expand on these stories we were able to tell the first

go around. When Florida won it going to Walt and he's crying and then he gets down on the ice and he says to Matthew, I fucking cried. It's almost like, can you believe it? I was crying up there. I'm so proud of you. And then obviously it just

pans right when they want also to Matthew as a little kid and the music. It was so good. I don't even think you need to ever watch hockey to enjoy this. And then you cut to the Edmonton locker room from this madness in Florida. And it was so sad. My wife's like, David's the only one crying. I was like, well, I'm sure there's other guys crying, but you can tell what it means to him and like i also said to her i'm like it's just been months and months of just grinding and working and boom it's over and you just never know if you're going to get there again and he's so you can tell he's just like emotionally physically he's got nothing left and like to have the cameras there and someone finally says, get the cameras out.

Would the cameraman leave right away if a player says that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially if we walked in and two seconds later, they said, get it out of here. I think we're in access to be here. But we're never trying to overstep. It's to overstep or to, you know, it's like, we've, we've got it. We, we spent 10 minutes in there.

It's, you know, it's like, it's, it's, uh, I think we were able to, um, to show people what, what the actual reality of that situation was. And, and at a certain point, it's not like we're going to put 10 minutes of it in the show. So, you know, you know, you got it and you, you know, you can move on. So, um, but as you say, what it's's like we make these shows for the non-hockey fan that's that's the number one thing that we are always trying to do and so it's it's tricky for me sometimes knowing hockey and just being a hockey fan um getting too deep and and making it too much about the games you know i

think all if we could we would make these shows with no games whatsoever. I think like that's that's the thing that we really try to drill into all of our producers, all of our editors from day one is like these are personal human stories that we hope become relatable because of how kind of specific they are. I think, you know, very few people know what it's like to play in game seven of the Stanley Cup final, but, you know, a lot of people know what it's like to have pressure at work or to have a baby coming on the way. And, you know, those are the type of storylines that I think can really resonate, you know,

with sports fans and non-sports fans alike. Yeah. And Danny, I think you hit the nail on the head and it was kind of what you were alluding to with like the casual American like sports fan I think they're gonna if they see this they're gonna gain an obsession for Connor McDavid's obsession for wanting to win and that's to me what they're gonna be captured by and and maybe start following his journey on hopefully another cup run this year so uh I was also gonna ask were there any guys that you um that you followed around that that weren't that didn't end up getting featured in the series or everyone you used was was in there

pretty much yeah pretty much everyone we we followed made the show you know there were a couple kind of secondary characters on different teams um like there were a couple guys on vegas couple guys on florida that we filmed some with. And it just, you know, time wise, you know, storyline wise, didn't make sense to include. But it was, you know, I've seen a couple of articles that say like, oh, they followed Crosby and Bedard. Why didn't that make the show? I was like, if someone could point me towards that. Who's Toss? We actually just we interviewed McKinnon.

It's going to be going on this podcast. And he's a little bit more closed off and probably comes from more of the Sidney Crosby school of thought. Now, given that you've had so much success with season one, who are your like white whales moving forward? Like who would you love to be able to capture in season two if you were able to? I think Sid is at the top of the list, a hundred percent. I think just it's, you you know for him at this juncture

of his career is just so fascinating to me you know everything he's accomplished is his just the way other guys talk about him he is the revered guy in the league right now and you know especially canadian guys like look at him as as as god so i think like and then to me that's that's an interesting starting point but it's like how does that guy deal with being on maybe a 500 team this year you know like i feel like we locked into only playoff stories last year just because of the schedule we had and and you know we got lucky with a lot of our guys went deep but um you know i would love to tell a regular season story just character based what is sid going through and also maybe bedard plays against that of like you know there's a guy who knows what it's

like to have been you know one of the most famous people in his country from age 13 and and how does he relate to conor bedard and knowing having kind of the weight of the sport on his shoulders as well so those are two guys at the top of the list and then I love a story of redemption and new face at a new place so I think Stamkos in Nashville to me is

one that would be awesome awesome two guys who are cup winners on, on, you know, um, kind of synonymous with another franchise coming.

And, and I mean, I think they're going to be on an FU tour this year. I could see the Preds being really, really good this year. So, um, and I think Stamkos is super charismatic,

great, you know, and great character too. Between, uh, him, O'Reilly and, and March. though i think

you guys would get so much good stuff and o'reilly plays the guitar i'm pretty sure he would do like a live event there much like matt duchesne did so that would be and and all three stanley cup champions a couple captains in there the i think nashville deserves an episode let's go well they they the one with forestberg this year and this little speech O'Reilly gave before the game he's like you're gonna get my fucking best and I need all your best it was just I can't I cannot say how much I enjoyed this

enough like I'm gonna watch it again and I just think of like a 12 year old Ryan Whitney like this is a dream like a little like a younger hockey player kid even somebody who's never seen the game's gonna love it the one guy I did want to ask about, especially with McKinnon on this episode, is Landis Gogg. Yeah. And you kind of you could kind of feel watching how much they miss him just like in the room on the ice is one thing.

But in the room and you saw how hard he's working, he's watching games. Was he able to stay upbeat with you guys? Because that's what it sounds like for the rest of the team. He'd come in with a great attitude, even though he doesn't even know if he's playing again at this point i mean he's another guy you sit down with and in five minutes you're like oh my god like this guy is great looking charismatic you know just a leader i would run through a brick wall for that guy and i think that is something he's been there for years and years now. So he is so sewn into the fabric of that team. And like,

it's yes, he hasn't played in a game, but he's around the team. You know, he practices, he, you know, he's on the ice while they practice,

I should say. And, you know, it's, um, yeah, he was able to keep upbeat, but then in his,

you know, in those car rides to practice it, to those games, to his press conference at the end of the season, he does. He's like this. This fucking sucks. You know, like I want to be playing right now. Like I didn't sign up to be a fan.

You know, he's a guy who takes pride in his game, plays a really hard game on both sides of the puck. And like it was it was killing him, too. But he also, you know, has been able to spend so much time around his family. And that's important to him, too. So I think he's a guy who the storyline when we first sat down with it is like, OK, this guy's coming back. And, you know, and, and make a push. And then it became clear. It's like, ah, no, he's not coming back. But I just couldn't get that story out of my head of like, I think there's still something here. I think there's still something people can latch on to. You know, he, he literally says like, my identity is being captain of the, of the Colorado avalanche.

If I don't have that, who am I? It's like, oh my God. Like, you know, that's, yeah, that's, all yeah that's um so uh he was he was someone who yeah i think on paper maybe people are like oh that's that's an interesting choice but you know i'm i'm uh i'm a big fan of his and think he's he's gonna really kind of resonate with this one too speaking of other deep stuff uh connor mcdavid's hate for cut ketchup did you did you expect that i believe Fear of ketchup, I believe. What's that? It's fear.

It's not even a hate. It's a fear. Yeah. I mean, we all have our thing, I guess, but yeah. All I know is he goes, yeah, getting a chef's the best money I've ever spent. My wife's like, you hear him? What do I even call him?

It's Connor McDavid. We're not getting a chef. but their food but all those guys with the chefs it did look it made made me very jealous i know these guys live pretty well as you know i mean it's yeah it's uh it was it was cool you know dipping into their world for a little bit but yeah then going back to my holiday and express and having executive producer, Steve mayor, who's worked for the NHL for a long time. He must've been a treat to work with. And there was also that clip of him asking McDavid to go out to, to collect the conspite.

And McDavid was like, fuck, I ain't doing that. Looking into space. He's like, I mean, Steve was great. Steve is,

is an unbelievable collaborator as dialed in and, and as, you know, has so many contacts, you know, has so many contacts, you know, he, he's one call away from everyone in the entire sport. And,

but he also was really gave us a long leash to, you know, do what we do and, and had our back. And, you know, like, and if,

if, you know, we went down and presented at the GM's meetings, you know, me and, and Gary Bettman and, and really face to face with all the GM's, this is what Gary Bettman, and really face-to-face with all the GMs. This is what the show is. This is what we need from you guys.

And Steve was just, if something like that needed to be set up, it happened in a minute. And then, yeah, for him to be the guy who's literally telling me, David, you got to go out there. It was good to have our man on the inside there so they probably asked like three other guys were like i didn't fucking ask him that oh yeah i don't know what to do with the problem yeah lead from the front yeah g uh g's gonna hop in and ask one yeah dan i was pretty surprised watching it i had no idea that there was going to be the all the use of the Chicklets clips and all the podcast clips and everything.

Thank you. Thank you, first off. Thank you, episode 3, 16 minute mark, 38 minute mark, my favorite part of the whole series. Keep going, Brunel. What was the approval process like there? Were there people like, oh no, fuck spitting Chicklets, we're not letting them in. Who was the Chicklets fan behind the

scenes that had to do all that digging for those episodes because they did some digging there yeah no i mean it's listen i think it was important for us for it to feel like hockey now and you guys are a big part of that like you know that's this is this was a show for young people for you know not the the last generation of hockey fans, but for, you know, someone who listens to spit and chiclets. And, um, so I think, you know, and, and you guys do a pretty exhaustive show and, and have a lot of clips that were useful for us and, and have emotion to them. And that was another reason, you know, biz, thank you so much for sitting for a few. I was honored. I was shocked that I even got asked and i we we did the first

one in atlanta and i was pretty tired from the playoff run obviously and i said hey if there's any cleanup let's meet at uh at the awards in vegas and it's like the fact that i get to tell my kids eventually that i was involved in this i'm i'm very honored thank you very much if you came on the screen i'm like that's mid bender biz you get the beard and the i was like holy shit that was when he was drinking no we got him right at the end it was like but we got a great hour out of it you know you were like at an hour boys let's go yeah my brain wasn't working very well but i mustered up the words no i i chirp i chirp cornell but when i when you were using some audio of myself talking about edmonton leaning into the Dallas series.

And I'm like, keep going, keep going, keep going. This is unbelievable. Cause I actually sounded like I knew what I was talking about. Yeah. Yeah.

For once. Yeah. One time, baby. I think you may have picked Dallas though, but no big deal. Oh no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no. I just put on Edmonton in November, but other than that, I was golden.

There you go. I mean, I don't know if it's been for sure that you guys will do a season two, but when would the hopes that that one would be done and then released? Would it be the same timeline? TBD, I think, yeah, I think, you know, there was a real urge to get this one out

in October this year, you know, with Amazon, you know, kind of having some games, Monday Night Hockey and all that. And so, you know, with Amazon, you know, kind of having some, some games, uh, Monday night hockey and all that. And so, um, you know, it was, it was great to get the, get it out quickly. I think, you know, um, we'll see, we'll see what the release schedule, if we get to do it again, I think I would love to start a little bit earlier, like I said, to, to do some more regular season, um, stories. And then maybe we have a couple of them edited and done by the time we even get to playoffs so that we can get it out around the same time. But as you guys know, people kind of turn their attention to hockey around Thanksgiving,

New Year's. And so if it comes out a little later next year, I think that's fine too. But the reception has been awesome so far. So maybe they might not want to screw with a good thing well we want to thank you for coming on man because it's really cool to hear the inside access of this and all you did and like I said amazing

job I didn't want it to end put it that way that's when you know you got a great show and I guess my one recommendation would be if you could get Doughty if you get season 2 and you get Doughty coming back from injury, I think that would be amazing. I like that.

Just with his personality, but there we go. Okay. I'm writing it. He's going to want you to edit out 75% of the footage you get with him, but it'd still be an unreal 25%. I love it. My one thing,

maybe Connor Bedard at the winter classic. I know that he's kind of has the same philosophy as, as Sid and McKinnon and wants to fall on those types of footsteps, but that seems like a looser event. Maybe they'd be willing to open things up. It's going to be at Wrigley. Would you ever follow around a coach? That's my kind of last one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would love to expand the tent a little bit, not just have it be player-focused. Coach, GM, spouse, you know,

they're all hockey stories. I think it would be, it'd be pretty interesting. Um, EVY would be awesome. Don Sweeney would be great, especially if he's under contract negotiation with a superstar. Let me give,

I'll call him up real quick and see if he's into it. I got his number. We're buddies now, right? What? No, I think there's some great, obviously some, some coaches who would be, pretty amazing you know uh patrick wall in the league is is pretty uh pretty good but um

yeah i'm open to anything and and i think yeah that's you know i whatever it is i think it's important to kind of see that person's you know experience of the world and stay in that bob rather than try to tell the entire team story if it's a just a coach story maybe it's just a coach story you know we probably have enough from season one to make a paul marie's episode but uh just didn't go that way i love it well great job once again and we appreciate you coming on thanks for having me, guys. Really appreciate it. Guys, we need to talk about DraftKings. It's Whit here.

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Biz, I meant to tell you this off the top. This is, you won't believe this, dude. What? You look disappointed right now. Oh, I'm beyond disappointed. I got one of those early wake-ups from Wyatt. Squanto comes buzzing in. Parents know that you're almost scared.

All of a sudden, there's a little child in your face at 5.30 in the morning. They'll bring him downstairs. He's like, Dad, I want a Maple Leaf jersey. I said, what? He goes, can I have a Maple Leaf jersey? I go, whoa, whoa, leaf jersey i go whoa whoa whoa whoa hold on stand right here is that where i went upstairs i went to china and i woke up my wife said you told him to say that right she's like what time is it said you told him to say she goes what the hell are you talking about right now i said did you tell wyatt me he wants a Maple Leafs jersey it's our year folks he knows she started dying she goes

I swear to god I swear to god I've never said anything about the Maple Leafs to him I've never said a word to him about it and then when she came down chair she goes this might mean they're winning the cup oh I fucking I was like throwing my pancakes off the window. I was disgusted. Where's the lasagna? Why do you want a Maple Leafs jersey? I like blue and white. I like the Maple Leafs.

I like the flower in the middle. I was like, what the fuck is going on in my house? What is happening right now? I will reach out to fanatics, and I will have him a custom Maple Leafs jersey with his name on the back. Squanto 69. Maybe not 69.

That's weird. I don't know why i just said that squanto number three he likes wild 11 on harvard football probably already said that he's got he's beyond his years i am shocked you texted us and you said you won't believe what wyatt said and i couldn't wait in my wildest dreams I couldn't have managed that I could not have imagined that I wouldn't make you hear me so Squanto's on the train dude I love that

I love that well he's gonna be our new Maple Leafs insider we'll get him on once a week for his five minute breakdowns he has to watch all the games though he has to watch the game footage we'll ship him out to Scottsdale. He can live with you. You guys can stay up late, watch the games.

We'll be doing live streams. They're on earlier out there. Maple Leafs live streams with Wyatt. Well, we had some NHL action already. It's a little odd that the NHL season starts with such little fanfare. I think part of that is that the games are on NHL network. They were over in Prague and it was Buffalo Jersey. You can't stream the NHL network.

So definitely disappointing for a lot of people that don't get the channel and can't watch considering it's like the beginning of the NHL season. I caught a little bit of both games. I was running around with a bunch of stuff this weekend and on Friday. They probably didn't want to put the Sabres on a national broadcast because they're gonna fucking take another dump this season are they gonna stink again oh my god they got their i know listen i know that the devils are a wagon and they four check like mad men and all of a sudden they got defensemen that they're just growing on trees like who i got this name written down as Kovacevic as as Keith described him as uh Kovachkin after

the game this guy's lugging 24 minutes I'd never even fucking heard of him before they might have to deal Luke Hughes this guy's the new this guy's the new Luke Hughes and to break it all down I think that we should get Jock Sniffer Pasha but Pasha, but if we do get them on, we've got to roll it. We've got to roll the disclaimer, folks. Warning. The following statements are about to be made by a deranged Devils fan. The views expressed are his and his only. Take everything you hear with a grain of salt because, remember, he is a deranged Devils fan.

Dum, dum, dum. Look at that fucking smile. Dum, dum, dum. I can't wait to get some hate. It's like they just won the cup biz. They did. They beat Buffalo twice in check, and this guy's already getting his tattoo outlined on his fucking quad.

What's up, fellas? How are we? Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I told you, it's been about 10 months, and there's been relevant Devils hockey to cheer for, so it was nice to see them come out and be absolutely buzzing. I might have gotten a little ahead of myself in the group chat asking G about

Hoboken Parade routes, but listen, this team looks unbelievable. You know, take everything with a grain of salt because it's only two games in, but the way they forecheck how connected they are in the breakouts, I don't remember seeing a Devils team like this. Now, mind you, again, only two games since 2011,

2012 when DeBoer came in and installed the new system, And I just remember them being so connected, forechecking, buzzing. So hopefully they can keep that up for the whole season. But wow, what a way to start. Let me ask you, Posh. Let me ask you. So

Kovacevic looked awesome. By the way, he also, the only reason I knew him is because, do you remember the goal he scored for Montreal against Tampa last year, Biz? No. It was when there was a shot on net from Tampa, and they never blew the whistle. And all of a sudden, the goalie kind of just played it over to him. And Tampa just straight up went to the bench for a change.

Like, the whistle had blown, and he just buried it from his own zone. And it was one of the oddest goals I've ever seen. So that's all I knew about him. I didn't even know he was on the Devils. But with this decor, now being this deep, you got Seamus Casey coming in looking phenomenal. What a first NHL goal for him out of Michigan. And you have Hughes and Pesci out.

So who ends up fitting in? Does Casey end up winning a job here even when everyone's healthy? I'm hearing Luke Hughes is on the trade blocks. That's what i'm here shut up is no no more no more of this rumor boys bullshit yeah that's rumor boys no i think he's gonna have some really hard decisions to make um i think that honestly as good as casey's looked i can see him getting sent down just as a long-term thing push his contract a year back um luke hughes will slot into that offense and then when pesci comes back. Luke Hughes will slot into that offense.

And then when Pesci comes back, which I think will be first game on Thursday, honestly, maybe Siegenthaler. And, you know, he had a down year last year, but two years ago when they were a wagon, he played unbelievable. But, you know, this is a good problem to have. It's going to be a tough choice because right now everybody looks great. Kovacevic, you know, Dylan, you talked about the physicality. Shades of Scott Stevens, just dummy paterica you hate to see a guy get hurt but i mean the devils haven't had someone capable of

throwing a hit like that and then dummy a guy in a fight since scott stevens shout out talk for getting in there right away yes i don't know what did you think of the hit oh i thought it was fine who gives a shit i've been out about that i know but they flip about any bit of contact it's people who never played the game the minute that somebody gets hit and they go down they all freak out online they get their fucking dopamine hit and then they fuck off to the next so i have a new thing biz this season uh i i have a new way of thinking about hits entire year i'm not changing okay if you're watching your pass like Paterka was, or you have your head down,

even if it's a hit that gets a guy a 10-game suspension, I don't care anymore. I am now officially, don't watch your pass and pick your head up. And if you get hit with a shoulder directly to the face and it's a suspension, for me, should I have had your head up or shouldn't have been watching your pass? That's where i'm at oh that makes it easier to judge for sure that's what

i'm doing i don't care anymore and pick up your head and going back to dylan we talked about mcdermott being in and out of the lineup and maybe who was going to be there to protect guys with that you know secondary you know enforcer type role And I feel like not only can he play, but he can provide that where, to today's standard, I would consider him a light heavyweight and willing to go anyone to defend his teammates. And that kind of just transitions into a double-wrister that we got to give Fitzy for all of these off-season acquisitions.

I don't know if anybody had a better off-season than Fitzy in addressing the needs that they had to address including Annette where you must have had a full-on raging boner after that save that Marks are made in game one that was we got a save of the season potentially in game one of the season yeah that was insane and you know again I talk about refreshing seeing a physical demand it is so refreshing to see just quality goaltending in a Devils uniform. Since Marty retired, that's been such a rare sight. And again, one game for Markstrom, but he looked dialed. That was an insane save. But everybody knows when you have a good goalie, your team just plays so much more confident in front of you. So very excited to see what Markstrom does. I think they're going to manage his load relatively well because they do have Jake Allen back there. manages load relatively well because they do have Jake Allen back there. So I'm not expecting kind of a, you know,

65 start kind of thing. I think it'll be sort of split, maybe 60, 40% type thing, maybe a little more for Markstrom, but I think they'll manage his load well, but it's very exciting to see the early returns on him for sure. With 50,

you look at the third line. Okay. And, and you have Carter, you have Hala and you have Stefan nosing. And those guys are like a prototypical third line. They can skate. They're bigger.

And I know off the hot posh, you're like, I don't know about this Cotter trade because Holt and all this upside. He was upset. But now Cotter scored a call. And he's like, this fucking guy's John Madden, part two. I never said that, but I actually like that comparison. I mean, listen, I said at the time of the trade, I don't think I'd watch one second

of Paul Cotter. I didn't know the first thing about him, and yes, I would have liked to see Holtz get a shot under a new coach since he was always in Lindy's doghouse, but holy cow, this Cotter guy, man, he is big, he's feisty, he can skate, he's got the mitts. Again, two games, two games, two games, but this guy looks unbelievable. If he can keep playing the way he's been playing, I skate he's got the mitts again two games two games two games but this guy

looks unbelievable if you can keep playing the way he's been playing i think he's gonna be a huge addition you know regular season and then that's kind of a player that translates playoff style hockey oh not only do you have one goaltender but you got two they split the net over there uh alan had the second game i know probably not as much work, but nonetheless, it's gotta be refreshing. Not only having that starter in Markstrom, but a very, very reliable backup in, in Jake Allen as well.

Uh, is there anything else that stood out to you? You did mention, I think in the group chat that you thought Hughes, maybe hands weren't necessarily there. Game one, maybe a little bit of rust going back to last season. Yeah.

I just, I just thought game one, he was fumbling a bunch of pucks. But I mean, the guys coming off of shoulder surgery, obviously first game back, that disappeared game two. Game two, he was back to his usual self. Like Witt said, a couple apples, dynamic. I mean, that pass to Bratt to spray him on that kind of where he came

the wrap around and gave it to Meyer. Yes, for Bratt. Yes, for Bratt. So, yeah, I mean, that was a one game little going to shake the rust off. And as Witt knows, I'm very confident that he's going to smash that 100 points. And you have my Venmo, Witt. What's the buyout? What's the current buyout at right now?

I'm not. That's a question for Witt. I offered the guy $2,500, dude. We're friends. And he said, no, the buyouts are done. I'm already, even if I lose, I only owe him two grand. He owes me a thousand bucks. And on Buffalo side, what was upsetting to me was like, all right, first game you lose.

The next night through two periods, the shots are 29 to 10. It's like devils. It's like they got out to a one, nothing lead. And it's good to see Tate Thompson get on the board that he's going to have to have a huge year. But I mean, the second game was more dominating than the first game. But, boys, I told you, Buffalo might not be good, but don't get too down on them on the two games because the Devils are going to make a lot of teams look like that this year.

I can't do it. Okay, you're done. You're done. Thanks for coming on, Pasha. Grinnelli quickly is saying Thomas Tatar couldn't buy 10 goals last season and he's the second line left wing. This team is overrated. So you see that they also have a bet that they made.

Grinnelli and Pasha made a bet, I think, three years ago that in the 24-25 season, who would have more points, the Bruins or the Devils? And I remember at the time thinking, like, oh, Devils are going to be real good by then, and now it could end up being an awesome bet. Neck and neck. As far as the Bs, I agree, though.

I'm not going to put too much stock into these first two games, but a little underwhelming in the Lindy Ruff second era in Buffalo. And like you said, that game two, come out with a stronger forecheck and come out with some emotion. And to lay an egg,

I think that that's what you can call it. Come game two. I just think that there's a, a lot of questions going into this season for the Buffalo Sabres that need answering. And I'm interested to see what they can do. I will not, I will not have a firm judgment on,

on what they are till after about 15, 20 games. Let's see what they can do in the first 15, 20 games before Thanksgiving here. And who knows? But very disappointing coming out of Buffalo with those two first games overseas. Very disappointing. And Paterka concussed.

I think Benson's injured. So it's like you never want to see a team have to battle that stuff this early in the year. So I don't know what's going to end up happening. If there's a team that didn't need any adversity coming in, it was the Buffalo Sabres. And then here you say that Paterka's got a conky, no Benson. And I don't know, folks. I don't know.

The future looks bright. The future looks bright. The future looks bright. It's not looking that bright right now. That's a tough two games for Lindy R ruff huh against the old club yep and just just getting waxed in in prague hopefully the boys had a great time in a beautiful city before they headed back home um other news uh frank sara valley reporting the calgary flames have signed tyson barry to a one year 1.25 million dollar contract pretty cool to see somebody go on a PTO, end up getting a deal.

I know you're buddies with him, so that had to be nice for you to see. I shot him a text this morning, Whit, and that's not easy. Not a lot of guys. I mean, we know. We went on a PTO, and we ended up getting snipped. But he had a big summer, man. He trained harder than he ever had before, and he just wanted an opportunity.

And he didn't get word that he was getting that PTO till very late, right before camp. And he goes in there and you could see some of his interviews too. He's just, he's got a lot of character. He's got a lot to give a team and, uh, he's definitely going to lighten the mood in there and make it an enjoyable season in Calgary. And, and I mean, come on, one of the better offensive defensemen who didn't have a contract going into the year, him and D'Angelo were two guys that I thought for like to run a power play and, and, you know, and add a little bit of offensive flair from the back end for a

team. And he goes in there and earns a contract and I couldn't be happier for him. He just, his wife just gave birth to their second kid and anything to prolong the dream of playing in the national hockey league. I think that if, if he wouldn't have signed this contract, he might have headed overseas. But now he gets to be close to home. He's originally from the island in Victoria. And that's not a long flight away. So he gets to remain an NHLer

and play in Canada in a great market. So congratulations to Tyson Berry. When you said that you and him and O'Reilly invested in 10 Fay, what does that mean? Is that like when people invest in a young golfer and if they make a ton of money, you end up owing them money? I think we pooled together about $300K just to give them a nice start. I think they've been doing it for a while, but they want to record a new album.

Maybe just to relieve a little bit of the pressure financially and you know we look at like us like even in our hockey careers like people obviously invested in us early enough and you know we took that and ran whether it was my parents helping me buy equipment or or you know ohl organizations providing the resources for me to get to the next level we just feel like these guys really care about what they're doing. Um, they're the type of band where when they, when they record an album, they all get together in the same room, they play the instruments and they sing and they, they get it until they, they get the one that they want for the album. It's not like, Hey, record the drums and then, you know, add it to the, to the, to the recording. Like they,

is that how most bands do it? I think that a lot of people just, like sometimes in certain cases, they're not even in the same room. Really? Where they record certain instruments and then they end up putting it all together where they have a very old-fashioned

of the way they like to do things. They write their own music and they don't rush it. They go away and they spend time and they all write the music together. And we just, given that the band was introduced to me by a friend and it meant a lot to him at a certain point in his life, along with a few other of these friends,

we just felt it was like, Hey, why not extend an arm and, and help these guys out? And, and the music industry industry is tough. Like there's not a lot of funding, especially for bands that are not extremely well known. So, you if, if, if this is the type of investment where it

ends up going nowhere, it was more of like, Hey, like we gave, we provided some resources to a group that cares a lot about what they do and if they can go continue to live their dream and it doesn't have to be post Malone or, or, or Morgan Wallen level where they reach. It's just something where they get to enjoy what they're doing and putting their heart and soul into it. And if they get to tour and make a living, then that's all the satisfaction that I need out of it. So yeah, grateful to be a part of it and, and cool to have those other guys backing it as well. We're we're Ryan O'Reilly's a huge music guy. So is Tyson Berry. I think Tyson Berry is very, very close with the Lumineers.

Like he got to meet them when he was playing in Colorado. So he has them play for private events. So knowing that those guys and myself are behind them, it was, it was kind of a cool thing that we did. And, uh, and, and they're a great band. They got great tunes, great driving tunes. I love it. I love it.

That's a cool story right there. Um, other news around the league, Pierre Engvall has been placed on waivers by the Islanders. He's got six years and 18 million remaining on his contract. I was like, what the fuck? And we had Frankie Borelli on and he was actually talking about like, if this guy could just score a little bit, he's fast, he's not overly physical. And you saw him on the leafs all those years but he got a big ticket now all of a sudden it's like let's hope somebody claims him which nobody will at that number i'd be shocked at least if somebody does but a surprising move where we have seen this before we have seen players go on waivers jordan martinook there you go there you go that's a that's a good example and you know i think he's got a lot of tools maybe sometimes like the saying is a lot of tools maybe lacks a little bit of the toolbox but hey a guy that can obviously at a certain point get called back up are they actually going to send him down or was this more of like a like a like a paper transaction but regardless though

where it is not i guess not a good look for Lou in a sense of some of these long-term contracts he has handed out and that might hold the team back a little bit. I know he was trying to get ahead of the curve on this one, but I think when everybody saw eight years for Peter Ingvall, everybody was like, what? Eight years? Like, who in their right mind would have given this guy eight years, like maybe to keep, keep the AAV down a little bit, but even then, like, I don't know what type of leverage or, or what the agent had on, on Lou in order to get that type of number. But ultimately you just hope that the guy takes this as a wake up call and he uses it to, to, to spark himself and have a big year. So not really sure what's happening there, but another, another kind of question mark on Lou and some of the decisions he's made as of late.

But still a big year for the Islanders. I still have faith that they will make playoffs. I'm not going to be as hard on them as I have in years past because I think they're poised under Paddy Waugh to have a big season. I cannot wait to see what Barcell does this year with a full season of Patrick Waugh as coach. And seeing maybe that one year he pops off for 9,500 points, I think it could happen. And maybe Engvall, who's still listed as on the fourth line right wing right now,

it was just one of those things with somebody claim him. And if not, he's still going to be here. Not sure, but definitely kind of odd. That Sorokin injury is scary in Long Island. That's something where you're like, what's going on there? Even though Varlamov was better than him at the end of the season, you need that guy to be healthy. I mean, he's got the long-term deal.

He's one of the best goalies in the league, and there's some questions there leading into the season. Well, and the amount of high-danger chances they give up, you're going to need a two-goalie rotation for the Islanders, unless they've cleaned that up, of course, with Paddy Waughty was the head coach but i think a team like that has most success when both guys are kicking good so definitely something that i would look out for but right like you said it seemed like uh um varlamov had gained patty was confidence more than sorokin towards the end of the season where wa almost felt more comfortable with him and net that. That's just the feeling I got to the point where Patty Wa

was kind of calling out Sorokin. A little bit. A little bit. So let's see how that relationship progresses and what the Islanders have in store. But I don't know what else we got before we send it over to the or are we sending it to Revo first? No, we're going to the dog.

We're going to the dog. But imagine Lou on that Amazon show. That would be. That would be. They're just videoing him in a dark office, like the owner of the team in The Natural. Have you ever seen that? This would be perfect for R.A.

You ever seen the movie The Natural? No, I've never seen it, but I know what movie you're talking about. Oh, my God. This owner, if he even opened up the blinds and any light came in his office, yeah uh no i've never seen it but i know what movie you're talking about oh my god this owner like if you even opened up like the the blinds and any light came in his office just like this old very grumpy guy like imagine amazon just trying to talk to you like what do you think pan over he's giving anthony duclair a fade chopping off his dreadlocks he's he's he's behind the scenes at the hotel, behind the desk,

making sure everybody's home for curfew on time. The Amazon, the cameraman with him is like, all he kept talking about was that a guy's clear tape wasn't on his sock correctly for warmups. He just kept muttering to himself, got to learn how to tape your pants, kid. Got to learn how to tape your pants, kid. What the fuck? So Lou maybe on the next Amazon would be excellent. That's a to tape your parents, kid. Gotta learn how to tape your parents, kid. What the fuck? So Lou

maybe on the next Amazon would be excellent. That's a guy that we could maybe see. And we'll get into this right now with the doll. Just a little teaser. Biz asked the dog about the new pool workouts. I bitched out on asking him whether or not he drinks his own piss. I bitched out on that. I knew you wouldn't.

He might have hung up. That's what I was worried about. Yance, our boy Yance, joined us for this interview. I actually, the dog had to move us back a little bit. He was stuck at the rink, and I had to pick up my son at practice. So it was one of those things where I think I had to leave about halfway through. But thank God I did leave because he buried me when I finally got up. Enough teasing.

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Did you ever think that that little match in Halifax would lead to biz and i just living like a golfer youtube life now it's unreal what you guys have done with that i'd love to i'd love to do it again i think we talked about cabot maybe or something but like did you guys ever expect it to like grow like that like it's no we weren't even sid told us not to bring cameras and then biz made pasha jump out of the woods that's right it was just supposed to be like a casual like a fun match like a yeah that's awesome he was dodging my text after he agreed to the interview and then you came on I was like hey what about doing a golf match afterward you know maybe brought to you by CCM and he kept ignoring kept ignoring and then he's like nah nah we're

good we'll just do the interviews and then pasha third hole just ambushes you guys now i have to ask you after watching more of them do you actually believe that i'm a sandbagger well wasn't it a stroke a hole though and you're making like pars and you birdied a hole it was crazy he's ever played it was legit like i you i knew there's a clip of me right before you snap. I'm like, this is bad news. You're fucking playing. It was like plus four through nine and he's getting a stroke hole.

Okay, I get where that could be from. That's before he was the snap show too. I remember Nate in his first couple years. He was like Nate D-O-double-G. Now he's Nate D-A-W-G. He was joking around on the ice. Now you don't want to get in his way so if you did that to him now he'd punch your head in on the fair i don't think so i think i gotta

be careful with biz i was actually gonna ask you now that you're the reigning mvp you used to have to go over to sid's gym all summer long right it was the older one you spent all this money for the new updated one. Now that you're the MVP, does he have to come train with you? How does that work? No, no, it doesn't work like that. You're still getting bullied? Oh, yeah.

Still going to his gym. All good. He's 20 years in the league. So, yeah. I train with Batherson, so I make him come to my gym. It makes me feel better about myself so that's what i do you're bullying young guys now exactly passing it forward yeah uh we we were talking who we just talking to biz talking about the camp you guys had um yeah i think oh yeah

miles what what an awesome group of guys that is to get together and like the pace must be so high before camp so how long has that been going on and then like what did you guys do after you skated was it golf or just kind of relax yeah it was unreal group so andy o'brien ham we i'm sure you've heard about those veil camps like 15 years ago 10 years ago and then covet happened they we stopped doing them for a bit, but it used to be like, or cough, Cleary, Bowmister, uh, clogs. Like it was awesome. Like it wasn't just like skill players.

It was like just awesome veteran guys that I learned a ton from. I was 17, my first couple of camps. So I learned a lot from Cleary and works. And, um, like I said, Bowmister and those guys. So that was awesome. And then we started doing like bio steel camps and stuff when COVID happened and then we're back in Vail. So it was awesome.

It was McDavid, Marner, Sid, Skinner, Hall, Tice barry was there um i'm forgetting guys maddie kachok right yeah kachok sorry bennett hannifin uh unreal unreal guys and um and then after we get like treatment or golf or whatever so it's cool up in vale because like no one knows any of us uh it's super chill like we've done them in Toronto Montreal and it's just busy it's just it just feels super busy in Vail it's it's it's such a great vibe training in the mountains at 9,000 feet is super cool even like for you like obviously you know top two player in the league like little things like that just getting that edge in the summertime must help you out I mean obviously you're at two player in the league like little things like that just getting that edge in the summertime must help you out i mean obviously you're at the height of your your

abilities but just getting that out of the guys that you play against every year must be huge so it's amazing that you guys do that stuff yeah and i just think it's it's even just fun like it's only three four days like i don't know how much better you're gonna get but but just being on the ice with i don't skate with connor very much i don't see him but i've got to know him over the years and just it's just fun i feel like a little kid honestly just watching mcdavid just fly around it and veil is it's just fun and sid and you know and then kachuk's doing his thing it's's really cool. It's a group of guys that would never skate together just because America's Canadians,

and it's just a different mix. But yeah, it's just one of those great memories I look back on that it's really cool to be a part of. Another off-season storyline, not storyline, but event was Makar's wedding. I saw some pictures and videos of that. Looked like it was a great time. Was he up there ripping?

Was he singing karaoke? Was he the one performing at the end I saw? Yeah, Kale's a bit of a, I shouldn't say a showman, but when he gets into his moods and he's a fun guy, he likes to dance and he likes to have a good time and i think when his wife's around he definitely loosens up more when and it's just the boys around so uh awesome wedding beautiful and boulder um yeah it was great super nice what else did you do this summer uh because my understanding it was there's a lot of rest behind it like this was an off year

for you or last summer like for training you ramped it up or you you had a down summer so what did you do for fun did you go to like hawaii or or any fun vacations yeah i went to europe um yeah i went to wimbledon that was really cool um you wear a top hat no no top hat i know i can't rock that bit i wish um but yeah the training it's just it's a little lighter than it used to be that i was like early 20s it was so so so such a grind i'd say um i just find like a you know playing 22 23 a night, the style of my game is super high pace, super high energy. After every game, I'm pretty bagged. With Andy and the people around me, just trying to take miles off my body is the key. I've laid such a great foundation over the years.

Every summer, just working really hard. Then I'm still in the gym every day. It's just lighter. And sometimes I'm like, is that it, Andy? That's all I'm going to do today. But he just said, just trust me. And I feel good now. And it was kind of similar last summer as well.

It's just not super taxing. I had a question about McCarr. As a guy, when you were in Colorado, I'd never really heard of him until he kind of came into the league and he joined you guys in that playoff series, I think, right out of college. But was he a guy that your team kind of talked about? Like, hey, we got this kid that could be essentially one of the best defensemen ever coming in?

Or was he kind of under the radar a little bit yeah i think on his second year at umass he won the hobie and he was electric out there and we knew you just never know right even no matter how high you get picked you know there's first overall picks that don't even work out so you just never know how guys will translate but he looked almost like a sure thing and then his first game he he dominated and was aggressive and calling for pucks like as a first year guy at 19 doing that is is impressive like just the confidence he has he's quieter off the ice but he is super sure himself on the ice and that's what you want and um but yeah he's he's special and yeah i still think he'll be he'll end up one of the best if not the best defenseman ever i was wondering like after we chatted with

you uh it was pretty cool for a lot of people to hear that you had worked with a sports psychologist and like obviously since then things have gotten to an even crazier level like this season was out of control for yourself personally have you continued on with that like as as such an intense guy is is that something where you're able to kind of release some feelings talk to someone and just relax a little bit mid-season while you while you're getting help with the sports psychology of the game yeah i think it's i mean when i first started it was always we were so dulled in with our bodies like why does no one really take care of their mind and i think you know i never even even just having like a process out there i just used to just go out there and like play and if i scored it like it's just the consistency i think has really helped with my game.

And it's something that I don't think you're ever, like, I think you're either getting better or worse. There's, you're never staying the same. That's my belief. And the minute you think you're good, you're not. And so I'm always going to work with her and she's been a big help. And there's always things that are coming up and new challenges with our team myself so i think it's super important who introduced you to the pool what's going on with the pool tyson berry tells me you're doing this spatial awareness not

social awareness yeah social awareness i completely butchered that breakdown of that but it could help with both we don't know science studies studies are still coming out giving my secrets away well i gotta do something for my fucking ball hockey team we're gonna have to introduce new training to our regiment because the ans team's coming out so one little thing i'll say about it yeah i'll play some ball hockey yet no hi so i don't i heard these ball hockey guys they say that nhl players can't play like pro ball hockey is that true it would be this is like the flag football you might be a little different because i rollerbladed my whole life man yeah but it's not they're not on roller

blades they're on feet you can't pass the puck like we're on concrete by the way people who don't like chicklets cup talk are probably losing their mind we're talking about chicklets cup dude Nate you just get it and you're shooting what is the chicklets cup what is that it's the ball hockey tournament that we throw on that

biz has put this superstar team together for about five years they didn't even make the finals last two years so who's like the best ball hockey player in the world? Nose face killer probably. Well, who? Nose face killer is his name. He's my stick boy in high school.

The kid's nice with it. He looks like me, but 20 times uglier and a bigger nose. So he's got like my nose? Yeah, you got a bit of a hooked nose going on too. You got to straighten that bad boy out. But long story short is it's not as easy as playing roller, and we don't have sport court, so the ball's hopping everywhere. Now, we're going to expand the top division, make 16 teams,

and we're going to put the sport court down. You're more than welcome to come join my team, the Big Deal Selects. We're basically made what? It's more dangerous than like riding a motorcycle dude like he can't be doing that but sorry to get up but like the roller hockey though do you guys like know about roller hockey like i used to play to be nhl guys would dominate the best in the world end of story you give you guys two weeks that you guys would smoke i think like patty maroon's like world class. He does it in the summers. He must protect that thing. Alex Hemsky used to play for like the Czech national team

in the off seasons. Just dangle everyone. Did you say he must protect that thing? Yeah. Like who's getting it from great? Yeah, I don't know. The rig. Just doing the tripod.

He must be on real out there. We got off the rails there a little bit. What did you say to say when he took 8.7 did you know that was coming i hate yeah i mean i remember like in july i'm like man you're not gonna sign for 8.7 right like like come on he's like i don't know we'll see like it's so cool though like the legacy he's leaving like how much money he's left on the table and like his desire to still win you know he's still taking less like it's not like i don't know like if they had a guy making like 15 and he had to take like he's just taking less just to try to get somebody else you know like this year

next year or whatever so as somebody who's always looked up to him like he's 37 now he's still doing it like that's gotta not only amaze you but kind of inspire you a little bit like this guy's been able to change his game as he's not the fastest skater anymore he still dominates does that surprise you he's still doing it or not at all knowing him man like you should see this guy in the summer like my workouts are like a joke like the recovery summers i do and he is just grinding like he just grinds like he loves it i think and um i think too like having i think it's awesome like not that he wouldn't be motivated but having this um world world four nations thing and then the olympics the following year so he's got uh no matter what

happens like he's got two things to look forward to and just be dialed in for and i think being the captain of canada like i can't imagine that pressure so to to be at your best so he's ready he looks amazing and like all the guys on the ice it's just crazy he's 37 like it's when you really think about he doesn't look 37 like no in any any way but because he's got kids i guess it must be it must be the key oh here we go he probably stays motivated by you guys too he's here in benghis every week the dale yeah the w scottsdale held me back yeah i'd have a 10 other storylines for the abs landis kog right like how's he looking how's he feel what does it mean to you guys to know that he could be back and we'll be back playing with you again not just on the ice but the locker room

aspect of it all yeah we are we missing? It sucks without him. His last game was their cup, game six. He lifted the cup and that was the last time he's played, which is crazy. Feels like 10 years ago. I think he's progressing. He's doing well.

It looks like he's coming back at some point this season. He's got a lot of brilliant people around him. I'm sure once he's back, he'll be able to explain it and everything he's gone through. He's just been grinding mentally, but you'd never know. He's honestly the best guy, best captain, just a horse um such a great teammate and he's still involved he's still around um still brings a great attitude every day which is crazy like how you'd never know he's even heard so uh we miss him and could definitely use him that's for sure

i'd like to ask you a little bit i mean mean, it seems like the Rantanen, he seems almost like a little bit of an anomaly. You don't know too much about him. He's absolutely mad. If you never played against him, you wouldn't know how big and strong he is. He's as big and strong as, like you were saying, Patty Maroon. You cannot get the puck

from this guy. He's like Jager. When he turns, what is he to go against Hutton practice or see him every day and what he does to defenders must be special. Yeah guy he's like yager when he turns like he like what is he like to go against hut and practice or see him every day and what he does to defenders must be special yeah he's he's shockingly big um it says he's six three but he seems like he's six five his head is it's like this fucking big man it's like it they've been lady like they're like they have like the one button on their snapbacks. That's a bad look. It's like going sideways. He is a horse as well.

Just a freak. He's old school. He stretches for an hour a day. He's the most flexible guy. Just a pure goal scorer. Super underrated, which is kind of weird. You know, we get so many national games and, you know, I know the, the Colorado isn't the biggest hockey market, but I think the last few years it has been.

So, you know, he should get way more recognition than he does, but I think like the true hockey people know how special he is and how important he is and you know we obviously wouldn't have a cup without him how about the goal that kid uh cal richie scored the other yeah he must look he must be impressing because like that move on its own some people like he whiffed i'm like no no no no no no no no like he so in veil he came to the veil camp and i never skated with him before, really. Actually, yeah, ever. And we were playing Tupac after, and he did it, the same thing. And everyone's like, you whiffed.

Everybody, the whole camp is like, no, you didn't do that. He's like 19. He's a little shy or whatever. So he made him do it again. He did it again he did it again so it's it's definitely on purpose and it's crazy i tried to do it today it didn't work don't have that in me these kids what they can do now it's like crazy even like the michigan i can't do that i don't know how to do it i don't know this would have to pick it up with his hand and put it on a stick yeah let's not go penalty trying

to do it so what i would have to say same thing you you kind of dodged that the the pool question like what's going on in the water like you have to do a great job of dodging it i think you move on no i think it goes i don't want to share my secrets i think we press them for more you don't know how this works you can so the guy who the guy who treats me uh full-time here in denver he's i get a lot of advice from him and so he he worked with a lot of skiers and to be like a really good downhill skier you pretty much have to like no fear so when you do like stuff, it like relaxes your mind and body a little bit. And we do other stuff in there. I won't,

I'm not going to get into, uh, for the next pod maybe. Um, but yeah, so that's where he gets all of his information from. And so I go in the pool a little bit. Is he like spinning you in the pool?

Like what's he doing i'm not i'm not saying anything else biz come on that's it that's it could we do this is gonna show up at one of these pools i'm telling you look i'm gonna speedo on i'm gonna the local gym i go to do you rock a speedo when you go or is it just like normal shorts here it's normal yeah i don't oh i gotta i just picked up skiing i'm not that aggressive not that aggressive hey you know what a funny storyline and it was quick and i gotta get your opinion on it though was last year when after one of the games like rontan and just like snapped on leckanen's dad were you like what the hell's going on yeah crazy because that whole

thing was all in finnish like in finland. In Finland, I didn't even hear about it. And then, yeah, I don't think you'll ever see that again. Did you get the backstory or were you just like, ah, who cares? I think, yeah. I mean, I think it was just a comment. Lucky's dad is like an analyst. So he just might have said something about miko's game i don't know he had a bad game or something and then miko had like a sick game

at like four or five points and then was fired up and said something then he apologized to lucky like three minutes later so they're they're like really good friends so uh it was crazy though it was like i don't know what was going on so he wasn't just a random dad saying it from his coach at home. He was an analyst. So that's at least a little better. He was on TV. He wasn't tweeting something. He was on whatever the finish via play.

That's it. Well, Witt's arguing with the GM of the Bruins. I mean, that's nothing. Well, technically, you are through me. Did you hear about this? I saw something the other day about it. Yeah. You guys are stirring the pot.

Yeah. You guys should talk to Sid. Swamens agents. Are you guys getting a piece or something? Yeah. We're the drug mules. We're the media mules trying to get the Swamens every cent. I better get a whole fucking percent of that contract.

I don't know what we've been through. That'd be nice. Using our social clout. It's getting drained out. You said you went to europe this summer like where did you go and and what would you say were the biggest cultural differences you took from it because most of the time you're going over there it's for like worlds and playing hockey yeah it seems like you could actually dial out just relaxing um not that i'm no one really knows me in america but especially over there it's like no chance of anything um just get off the grid it feels like you know you wake up you don't have

one text because of the time change it's just super nice relaxing and love going over there um yeah i was definitely tempted to go to worlds last year though now you bring it up like uh i think where the fuck was we were out of the second round and sid was sid was bugging me and shenner about it saying what if you if you if you if you go i'll go kind of thing yeah so we were all gonna go and then we're just like i was like bad like i just played like 105 games lost to dallas like i was devastated i was like i don't know if i could like because at this point it's like i feel like i'm like all in or i'm like you know it's hard for me to go over there and just kind of like give it like 70 you know how worlds is it's like skate around and giggle

yeah you know it's just tough it's different for some guys who like you're on the team right so it's like different like it's more about leading up to the the four nations and the olympics like if guys want a chance it's like you're going over there but it's obviously different for you and sid but another another guy i had to ask about and one of the funniest best people i met in the game and i know you feel the same and he retired his cogs andrew cogliano like yeah how much did you enjoy when he came over when he won the cup with you i remember texting him right after that game like just an awesome person that that will i think would easily end up in upper management with a team in the nhl

like i said i met him in veil through andy and we have the train with andy and just always had a pretty good connection um and then i've said this before but like we the the year we won it we're trading for some guys and they asked what they thought of cogs and i definitely lit up right away like just having that presence in our room that leadership uh an awesome player as well and um but, he's a special guy and definitely someone that I can relate to really well. He's always super high, strong, I'd say, intense. He's very intense in the game. Very intense and just super dialed in. And now he's, I think it's special assistant to Chris McFarland, our GM.

Oh, nice. So he is, yeah, like you you said he is management now already so but it's like he's still like it's weird it's weird seeing him around the rink he's always in the gym his hands in his pockets walking around the guys isn't he good at impressions yeah he's a great storyteller like he's so good yeah he's a great storyteller like he's so good so good did he ever tell you any of the stories of edmonton like my favorite one for him is like his tooth one stuck in his lip and i think he was on the ice for like 13 goals against and after the game he's like what do i do with did he ever bring up the dark days to you like when you're celebrating a cup yeah oh yeah he uh a couple uh

i don't know like duane roland stories too so he's just awesome and i think he roomed with uh sam gagne like they came in the league together and i mean it didn't sound like you guys had a great team. Whit was the number one D. What do you expect? But what happened there? Because they went to the finals in 06, and then did you guys come in right after that?

They swapped Pronger for Whitney. Pronger requested a trade. Oh, okay. And then it was all down. Well, at least he looks like him a little bit first overall pick for like nine years straight yeah yeah he's great though and and he's it's fun to have someone that just was on our team and just like can relate to i feel like the league is moving like not in a different direction it's just evolving really quickly

right now and I think he can be a good bridge from the players to management and he's such a great hockey mind so we're lucky to have him there. I said it to Brad Tree Living like when we first started I'm sure same with you like the GM walked in the room everyone was like oh

shit what did we do wrong here but nowadays it's like the communication everything's just so much better even with the coaching staff like I always used to be like why why are you so scared to talk to these guys we're all on the same team here but it just seems like it's getting better and better do you see that as well yeah it only makes sense to me I mean like you said we're all in the same boat like if if we lose like everyone's in one so like no one's going to benefit from i don't think being scared of a gm or like a coach or um i just think knowing where you stand is super important especially for a young guy but yeah when i first came to the league it wasn't like

like watching joe sackick i was terrified you know and Paddy Wall and like you know it was it was scary for sure yeah um now with C-Mac he's like a super personable guy and uh and getting to know Joe he's a amazing person as well so um I I think it's important I don't know I I'm sure like old school guys or maybe would think like the fears can be good and i don't disagree with that but over 82 games like you can't really scare people into playing well for eight months you know right i don't think that's possible so definitely prefer the new the new way i was just going to ask about the aggressive trade last year at the deadline getting uh middle stat and swapping out bull by room like what have

you seen from him so far with the organization because i mean with cup aspirations you kind of need to find your guys cadre again right your guys yeah swiss army knife and a guy who could step up in in big moments so uh do you think middle stad's that guy and if you like what you've seen yeah i definitely do he's a whole different person this year, too. I think he's just super comfortable. It's a lot coming from Buffalo to our team, I think, and just a whole new system and not knowing anybody. guy and wants to get better he'll do anything to get better and um so you can see how comfortable he is this year and i i definitely expect and i think everyone expects him to have an awesome year he looks great like he looks awesome out there so we're really excited with that and um like you said like you need you need like two three four centermen to to win like you need that depth and he's definitely going to provide that, I think, for sure.

I remember one of the things with Crosby, and it continues, is every summer adding something or improving something, and then for you, 140 frigging points. Then this summer, is there something you still are like, all right, I don't like this part of my game, or I want this to be stronger? Was there anything in particular you looked at? Yeah, I think face-offs. I don't like this part of my game or I want this to be stronger. Was there anything in particular you looked at? Yeah, I think face-offs. I find practicing them can hurt my wrist sometimes and stuff.

I definitely need to practice that more. I like to just be around 50, 52 or something. What were you last year? I think 46. Oh, shit. Yeah. Just need to get better at that for sure. Is that why you're in a great mood when somebody snaps one back on you too?

Is that why you voted for Kucherov, Whit? Because he was 46% in the drop? All right, I got to go pick up my son. Love you, Nate. Oh, we lost him. We lost him. He couldn't vote the same as you eh oh i was singing i was doing the the dog tweets all year i think you're the reason you're the reason why i wanted i think you don't tell him this dude you get a league bonus do you get a league bonus no bonuses but if i did i would have wired it right to you we did lose wit though uh

he's got to go pick up his kid did you actually have a cereal release in uh in 2021 called mckinnon crunch is that was that real i did we should get in business we should do some some cereal for you frosted flakes oh nice that's what it was and they just white labeled it and it was called the mckinnon crunch i picked it yeah i picked the flavor though i like that so was that right before you got your deal with tim hortons and became a um a server at their restaurants at their pickup windows that was like 2015 we said oh that's when that started yeah that was way back when hey how how has that been do they have you do that same thing every summer where you surprise people at the window no we didn't we haven't done that since then

we've always wanted to do one where like we get marshy in there just because like we're all nova scotians and like he's being like a rat and like messing up people's orders and we gotta like sit him down and like tell them like what to do i don't know they haven't done that yet but why is it marshy needs to be nicer on the ice to be more marketable you know oh okay that's not there or maybe he's aligned with dunkin donuts because you got the bossing connection maybe he's coming at you guys i know he might be but we've always wanted to do that what do you got what do you got yans'm going to ask you a little bit about Bedard. Just, you know, seeing, obviously, you came in as a young stud.

And, you know, just seeing him and, obviously, you know, potential to be playing together for Canada this year. Just what do you see in a young kid like that and what he's been able to do? Yeah, I mean, I've done a couple camps with him as well. And all the stories about how hard he works, um, is, is true. I mean,

this guy's on the ice for like an hour and a half after everyone's done shooting pucks, stick handling. And like the ice is like, you can barely even move on it. It's so snowy. And, um,

which is great to see. I mean, it's, that's what you want. I think, you know, to pull someone back versus trying to get them to do something is definitely better.

And he had a great season, you know. A lot of injuries on the Blackhawks, and they look like a really good team this year. So I think, you know, they could be sneaky, pushing for the playoffs, and especially, you know, if he has a monster year, like i think everyone's expecting uh maybe a little bit of recency bias but you see a few stars getting

hurt in pre-season what are your feelings given with the state of the game and how in shape guys come into camp and how they could basically just roll into the season what do you give what are your thoughts on the exhibition schedule like is it too much for you guys and you have to dress i think eight veterans every game should they limit this and and figure it out to keep guys healthier going into the season yeah i don't necessarily agree with the veteran rule i think it's important for young guys to play preseason like it's the only way to really evaluate them like there's always like practice players that look good you know and then once you get into a game you can kind of tell like what's what and um but yeah it's tough because

you want to like for me like you want to like play hard and show a good example like do things the right way but i'm also like i played last night we lost like 6-1 and it was just like i'm also thinking like i watched drew dowdy like snap his ankle and i'm just like or lana or it's just kind of like man i could throw my season away from a glorify practice essentially is all it is you know you're in your game jersey but it doesn't mean anything so it's a fine line i think um i enjoy playing them i like one or two and that's good for me i don't need six but um definitely important for, for young guys to play.

I agree with you. It should be, it shouldn't, you shouldn't have to have the certain amount of veterans. You know, like you said, you ask you guys go up to your captain and say, how many games you want to play?

One or two boom done. Yeah. Maybe the last two when it's all NHL guys and guys are kind of on the same page. And the first few games is kind of chaos too. You get kids and junior running around trying to make a name for themselves. So, and you understand that from their part,

but it's definitely, definitely like, I mean, the team's making money off these games, you know, it's like, so my understanding is they're making some of them between one and $3 million on gate.

So now I get it. I just think in a sense, it might be being a little bit short-sighted now i would imagine the one to three million gate are the teams like toronto and montreal and the you're kind of like sucking in sucking in these people for the season ticket thing too and and how it all gets packaged together but uh i definitely think it might be a little bit excessive with how you guys are coming into training camp now and how you're all all dialed in and it kind of actually led to my next question given you're so into training camp now and how you're all all dialed in and it kind

of actually led to my next question given you're so into your fitness and and recovery and all this scientific side of it you consume a lot of like podcasts on these subjects like are you a huberman guy do you listen to like peter attia or read up on this stuff on longevity because you seem to be like it's not only just like for hockey it seems to be a lifestyle thing as gary roberts describes it yeah absolutely i try to listen to as many as i can i i think it's just great i just love learning about that stuff there's always new information and even not just for hockey i just think i'm i've always been kind of into it even as a kid um you know i'd always love going to like popeyes as a kid with my dad and looking at like

protein powder and stuff like i don't know i'm just into it and um definitely love learning there's so much i don't know i show like a dummy listen to these guys honestly so it's great popeyes isn't the chicken place in the states he's talking about it's like a gnc yeah oh okay you know popeyes biz you never think i remember it in moncton they had one it's like a GNC. Yeah. Oh, okay. You know, Popeye's biz? You never. I think I remember it in Moncton. They had one. It's like a GNC, right? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Like a GNC. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, buddy, we can't thank you enough. I mean, gee, did you have any other questions you want to hop on and ask?

We got the MVP. I kind of want to just ask about, we've heard so much about you policing the food in the locker room. Like, are you still doing that is that something that the the staff kind of is just aware of now or are you still going in there being like no sugar no sweets and when the new guys come into where you gotta be like hey i don't want to see any fucking reese's candy bars before the game wit said you strangled leckanen because he ate a snickers bar or something i think he reported that last season is that true that's false information that's not true i don't know i'm trying to like i'm trying

to mellow out a little bit for sure um i definitely see some shit and i get mad but uh i'll try to keep it to myself yeah i don't know i just think when you're at the rink, you're at a pro sports. Like, eat what you want. But I think when you're at the rink, we're at NHL, we're pro athletes. Like, I think it should be healthy and good food. And yeah, I just think like the least you can do as a pro athlete is be in good shape. That's what I think. Remember, guys used to be drinking Pepsi in between periods. I mean, you guys, I think, sponsored my Pepsi. But that's a no-go with the nate dog in the room i guess so it should be little sugar in game isn't too bad it's all good you kind of alluded to it with um the tim horton's

commercial idea would that be your dream line for the four nations yourself sid and marshawn that would be cool that would be really cool oh yeah i'm i'm ready for the wing uh yeah definitely i don't think like i don't know like mcdavid said one two punch you know and then everyone kind of figured out so you like in a room like that you would essentially delegate to to mcdavid it's like hands down like you are the mvp so you just oh i don't know since the guy yeah like i i think like you're not putting mcdavid on the wing like that's crazy i'm not i'm not saying that it seems like you you'd be willing to just delegate like you're like sid and mcdavid that's what the people want i'll suck it up and play the

wing yeah not even what the people want i just think suck it up and play the wing. Yeah, not even what the people want. I just think it makes sense. I don't mind right wing. I've played wing at other Canada events. Yeah, I'm comfortable there. And I think, I don't know if those two have ever played wing. I'm not saying, I think they can easily figure it out. They're two of the smartest players ever.

But yeah, I think you have those two guys one two punch um and then you know if i'm third line center that's cool if i'm playing with my david right i don't love left wing i could get used to it i like right wing uh just yeah i like being on my off side for the one time or two actually yeah same player the fuck player. The fuck are you laughing at? Biz, it's called being a team player. I thought you were a centerman. I thought you played center. No, no, no.

I would snap back a few draws when our two centermen would get kicked out. But after that. Nate, he literally one day. I'm going to step in. I'm like, no, I got it. Oh, yeah. Nate, he legit one day he didn't play for like 327 consecutive games and he came in the locker room he's like i'm gonna go talk to tip i

want to play or i want them to send me down so i can play me and donor were like dude you have to get sent down you're done like do not do it so you won't be back prevailed he got a couple more years out of it yeah should I tell Sid to go to the wing do you think I mean I don't know you're like I've been working out your gym all these years I'm the Ted Lindsay winner the MVP I got to get

something out of this I got to get something out of this relationship yeah I think he could be 50 and I'll still I'll still slide I'd still slide over yeah no problem yeah being on like a like a Nova Scotia line it would be pretty cool like I think he could be 50 and I'll still, I'll still slide. I'd still slide over. Yeah. No problem. Yeah. Being on like a, like a Nova Scotia line,

it would be pretty cool. Like at the Olympics, like, or even this February, that would be, that would be special. I think we'd work well together too. I think it would,

I think it would actually be a good line, not just cause we're from Nova Scotia. I think like the way Marshy plays, it's just, he is just going to mock for check and he's got unreal skill. not just because we're from Nova Scotia. I think the way Marshy plays, he is just going to mock Forchak, and he's got unreal skill, and then Sid Sid, and then I can try to push the pace and try to create some room off the rush,

and I think it'd be good. It'd be great. I love it. Given the Americans, the game plan even before the games, we don't even care. They're shaking their boots. Look at Jans.

All these Americans. The American team is crazy hey like how actually it's crazy yeah they're unreal since i'm a leafs jock sniffer you skated in the summer with marner how's he looking what are we about to see this year i think yeah i mean i think not more of the same because more of the same is unreal usually um you know if he's played full 82 game season i think you would have over 100 or every year so um but he looks awesome it's always just like i think it's because like you hear stuff it's always like negative not always negative about marns but like a lot of the time it's like negative and then you like get on the ice with them you're, how could anyone ever be negative about this?

You know, that's, that's why I think like, for me, I just admire how good he is. Just cause like people trip him a lot. So, um, the up and veil, like he was, he was sick. Yeah. He was him and McDavid were flying around together. It was so fun to watch. That's why he's coming to the leafs folks mcdavid coming soon uh we want to thank you for your time mac you're uh i wish i wish you all the

success in the world man we appreciate your time and i can't wait to to cabot links against you and crosby again for a sandbagger we're gonna chew you up buddy we're gonna chew you up i can't wait man i can't wait good luck this year man yeah thanks boys really appreciate it before we go any further guys i need to talk to you about mugsy mugsy makes damn comfortable clothing for guys everywhere the jeans are unbelievable they're soft they feel like sweatpants but they look phenomenal. You would never know how soft these things are when you see somebody wearing them. Mugsy started by reinventing the jeans game in 2015, and now they make the best jeans,

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Thank you so much Nathan McKinnon for joining the show. I cannot wait to see what he has in store for this year, Biz. That last season, just a complete explosion. 50 goals for the first time, 140 points and it was cool to hear him talk about like the way he plays the game needing that summer of rest compared to

the summer before of like yeah dude like i am just i'm my motor is always going like he understands that he plays the game so different than others like it's just constant full effort maximum speed he's more physical than people give him credit for so the summer of of rest it was i'd never really heard that before i don't know if you were surprised well so i i was uh i think i was talking to tyson berry when he talked about the pool exercises and mentioned that and and it didn't shock me just because like you said like of how he plays and how how hard of an impact that must be on the nervous system like he's not like being laid back at all like every shift he's giving it his all and then one other thing about the pool exercises and i'm glad i re-asked him

because i felt like it was dodged the first time was him relating it to a downhill skier and how they're fearless and they have to have that approach when you're attacking and going to the net at such a ferocious speed you have to do so with no fear like you see it with the mcdavids and these other types of players like taylor hall was another example so it was just really cool to hear his explanation as to why he's doing it i don't know how the pool ends up correlating to to like to to like help with, but obviously it does and obviously it's working. I mean, the results speak for themselves. 10 Lidzey, MVP, and this guy will do anything that it takes in order to be the best in the world.

And it's just a credit to him. And obviously he's a guy that I would love to see from a behind-the-scenes perspective on the Amazon series. But I also respect certain guys who are a little bit more private about what they have going on. And like he kind of joked about, but probably half serious, he doesn't want to reveal his secrets and every, every little edge you can gain, you're going to need that when you're competing against a guy like McDavid. So just, uh, so gracious with his time.

We got 40 awesome minutes out of them and uh he was my mvp i know he wasn't yours because you got swayed by the the the media and other people online but that's my guy that's my the dog as they call him yeah i think if i had known that we could have got him on before the season and not talk to kucherov i'm not gonna lie a little bit of a regret on that one. Of course you steward me. I said before, and I go, this is 100% going to tell him I didn't vote for him. Boom.

Gets me. That's a partner for you folks right there. Always busting balls. That's a role model. Also, I do want to make it clear that we're talking about a summer of rest. This guy was still training like a madman it's just a little different like he's probably he probably hears me saying shut the fuck up it

was just a little different training i didn't fucking rest i'm a warrior nathan he wasn't he wasn't sipping my ties on the beach folks he was probably just doing a lot of a lot of massage therapy getting the hips getting a mobile probably doing some yoga like I was doing. Dude. Wicked lot of fat. Did we talk about one of the stretching sessions we did? I was telling someone like, buddy, you are the tightest human being. It's actually sad.

Your hips don't move. Your back. Have you always been like that yeah i've always been tight i think guys he sits down and straightens his legs he can't even touch like the end of his end of his uh shin shit you're getting to your knees bro yeah and that's after doing yoga all summer so def flexibility and range of motion is something that cause a lot of my injuries and now i understand why a lot of these players half of their focus in the off season is elongating relaxing opening up their hips because if if you don't have loose hips ankles knee and all this flexion and mobility it's just going to lead to more and more injuries.

So definitely a goal of mine going into next Tricklets Cup that I will be playing in. I will not be sidelined, and we're going to drum the Boston Stranglers. But that's pretty much all I had on the McKinnon interview, unless you guys, is there anything that stuck out to you, G, behind the scenes there? Anything in the interview that stuck out to you?

Sorry to put you on the spot. and I think you actually you guys kind of touched on this in the uh the interview with uh uh the Amazon showrunner was just the importance of Gabriel Landeskog in that locker room I mean so many people think McKinnon's the face of the team but when you heard McKinnon talk about just what he means to them that was really up that was eye-opening to me yeah and and also to relieve a little stress from from mckinnon from a leadership perspective because it seems like a lot of his focus is just on him worrying about his game where and that's not a knock either like he's still a leader and how he sets the example and how he plays and how he prepares to play but i think it takes a special human being to not only do that but also be and be there and worry about others and keeping the room balance like i was fortunate enough to obviously see crosby for the small amount of time that i did and then we had shane doan for five years in arizona where buddy like his job

didn't end uh you know when he left the rink, it was worrying about everybody's personal lives also. And it's almost like the drama biz though, that the team had this year with Nishushkin, like getting basically kicked off the team. It's like McKinnon was probably the one in the room that had to stand up and address the team while thinking I'm the best player I got to put out every night. So it's, that's a stressful situation. Yeah. And he's also, we've talked about this time and time again he's a very intense individual so sometimes you need that good cop bad cop whereas if you don't have the good cop it's just like it's the the what do you call it like the the the weights off the scales off so him coming back

not only for his play and what he brings to the net front and his wall work and his battle and compete level but for that in-room dynamic it would be so massive to this team if they got not only nachushkin back but also landa skog from a leadership perspective and i think don't you think um don't you think it is a it is very interesting team to watch this year though like big time i'm not like as good as their top end talent is i'm like oh i don't know i don't know there's some question marks there that are going to be very interesting to see play out you know with mckinnon and his temper i guess or his like is is just his like passion to win like it's going to be weird to see their start and see how

they get going because there's, there are question marks in Colorado, no doubt. Yeah. And, and I asked them in the interview, I think a lot is also going to depend on the growth of, of middle stat up the middle and what he can provide in that second line

role because they've, you know, when they did have their success, the one, two punch. And in some cases, even the one, two,

three punch was unbelievable down the middle where i think he has to he has to get to that next level it kind of goes back to to what we saw from talk it like he went in there and had the half a year with vancouver he was able to see what needed to be corrected and then last year he goes on to win the jack adams the team looks completely different where middle stat got that taste he knows what the expectations are, getting out of Buffalo and now being on a team like Colorado where it's like you had to have had a good offseason and you got to come in, hit the ground running to get this team based on

where I think probably their fan base and their organization has that expectation level at. So interesting times in Colorado, but I agree with you. This is a team, in my opinion, on paper right now. I think they're like third or fourth best in the West at best where they're going to have to have a lot of guys having breakout seasons to prove us wrong.

And staying in the Central Division, big news from Utah. I love seeing this. Now Seattle is the only team without an NHL captain. Utah named Clayton Keller, their new captain. Cool little video they put out kind of announcing it. Those jerseys are fresh. I love the look of those. And he's got the C on there.

And for a smaller guy who there were some question marks coming in, like would he be as dominant as he was in college? Would he live up to where he was drafted? He is so consistent. And on a team that's had little to no success since he came into the league. He has produced points, played at a high pace. Last year, I think was 38 goals, 36 goals right around there. Makes total sense for me as a young guy and the best player on that team to be named captain. You've seen him the past few years. Do you agree? Yeah, I was blessed to see the growth of Clayton Keller as I spent time in Arizona with their staff on the media side.

And, you know, he had that big rookie year. He ends up getting nominated for the Calder. And, you know, all of a sudden after that, there's obviously a little bit more focus on you because teams around the league are aware of the talents that he had. And I would say there was a little bit of a setback in years two and even maybe in year three. And, you know, they, they provided them with that big contract where maybe some people questioned whether he should have got that much money. But, um, you know, even when he, he went through those, those hurdles, he, he kept working, you know, not only off the ice from a

physical standpoint in order to put a little bit of muscle on and prepare for going against top guys, game in and game out, uh, also the mental approach, working with a psychologist, a sports psychologist. Um, and then as he started progressing and seeing more and more results and got back to more of what it looked like in year one, um um he suffered that nasty femur break right and that was like you never know where that can go right that's a catastrophic injury that might you know you might never see that same player again and and and battle through the rehab on that and then going back to the last few seasons and what he's been able to do from a production

standpoint and gaining chemistry with schmaltz on a line and last year with Barrett Hayton and and finally like after everything he's done in the body of work that he had in Arizona for him to move to this new city and and get this fresh start with getting the captaincy is is huge in my opinion it's well deserved I think from uh you know from uh showing up to the rink and providing that example for the future of Utah and these younger players, he's exactly what you want in a leader. And I just said everything as to why I think that. And it's a great fresh start for him in a new city as well as the organization.

And I think that they got their guy. So congrats to him, and I hope he keeps doing what he's been doing. And it's a testament to the hard work that he's put in behind the scenes. Yeah, last year I was wrong. It was 33 goals last year, but he had 37 the year prior. He's got 98 goals the last three seasons, 225 points. He's now consistently that point-per-game player that I think everyone envisioned when he was picked seventh overall.

And in staying with the good news in Utah, what an awesome setup it seems to be for their opener and their beginning as a new franchise. First off, I saw the prices. I saw the prices of some of the food there. Like the Masters. It's unreal. It's awesome. Ryan Smith, the great move.

And obviously the alcohol is probably expensive, but all the food, two to three bucks for everything. And you talk about how hard it is to take a family to an NHL game now with parking tickets, getting your son or daughter a shirt or a hat, and then the food on top of it. It's like that's a great move by a new owner who respects the fans. He respects what he wants to build there. He expects very special things. And now he's getting to kind of show his team off to the league, show his team off to the world. And I think that the fans are going to be great. I also saw a story where there are seats there where you're actually kind of blocked out from seeing the net in that end you're sitting in, in that zone you're sitting.

Very similar to what Phoenix dealt with in Arizona with that owner. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a complete one 80. And I think that players realize that, especially when he first bought the team, he flew down to Arizona,

took them all golfing at the national. And he literally said to them, he goes, what do, what do we need to do differently? So you guys come over there and it makes your jobs as easy as possible? And we're going to get them on. So I would love to just pick his brain on what the mentality is from the organization's perspective on how they're going to make that fan base what it's going to be.

So I'm fired up to get them on and ask them all those questions that you teed up. So that's pretty much all I got on the Utah subject. But they got a lot going on there with this weekend. I think that Shabuzy, do you know who that is? He sings the Tipsy song? Yeah, the Tipsy song. They're going to have him there for the opening

ceremonies and leading everybody into the rink and performing. And I want to say they just had UFC there. So a big week in Utah for the grand opening. And they're going to be playing the Chicago Blackhawks, Conor Bedard, such a smart play by the league to get everybody's attention there watching the next Sidney Crosby. And Bedard, I saw our boy Chief at Barstool with a couple post-mode,

Bedard's been just mixing it up in preseason. I don't know if you saw the last game with Bull Duke. I mean, he gives it to him in the offensive zone. They go back into the defensive end in front of the goalie. It ends up being a huge scrum where he was taking no shit. He's probably approaching things a little bit different, adding an edge to his game. Well, yeah, I was hanging out with him all summer in Vancouver.

Yeah, he's like, I don't want to end up like this guy. at the top of the gross grind i was i was showing him a few tricks like the jersey jab and how to grab on and how to throw a proper right hook but not get caught wide open so you're gonna i got uh i got the over on five scraps for bedard this year just chucking knucks imagine him and mcdermott just going toe-to-toe. Him and Revo. He dummies Revo. Yeah, the new king in town. Before we throw it to Revo,

this is kind of groundbreaking news, Biz. Apparently, it is a done deal. First reported by Jimmy Conley, the NCAA Division I Council will act Tuesday or Wednesday of this week on emergency legislation that would allow CHL players to maintain NCAA eligibility. At least two commissioners have told coaches they expect it to pass. Braxton Whitehead is the first player who committed to ASU. I believe he's in the WHL somewhere. This is crazy, dude. Crazy. In all the years of, hey, is this kid going to go to major junior? Is he going to go to college? The fact it could be one now, and you can go at 16, 17 and play in the OHL or the Quebec, the WHL, play a couple of years and then go to BU or go to BC or, or go to Wisconsin. It's like, this will change the landscape of,

of my, not minor hockey, but junior hockey. I do wonder if it's really going to affect the USHL. I don't know if they would end up taking a hit. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that if it does to a certain degree,

maybe you have to trim the fat on the amount of teams that they have in the USHL. But I think that's hurting the USHL, you know, like that's, well, certain degree maybe you have to trim the fat on the amount of teams that they have in the ushl but i think well that's hurting ushl you know like that's no well i get it but also if you got a team that's not getting any fans and it's like if the team's bleeding money and like you'd really need to have that many teams i think for the betterment of hockey it's wise to do it the way that they're going to do it now because now now with those top prospects, when they're 16, 17, before they can even head off to college, you're getting to play at the highest level. And, you know, whereas before you couldn't and you had to wait to go to university where

even for kids who end up playing junior a like OHL, CHL hockey till till they're 1920 like the development doesn't stop there like some of them can't right away go play pro and instead of having to go to canadian university hockey because you've ruined your eligibility you can go play university hockey where in some cases some of these guys are 21 22 23 i mean Christ, Quinnipiac's got 28-year-olds with families playing. So why not create essentially another stop before you would end up going pro that is better than CHL hockey where you can continue your development? And people are going to say, oh, I saw some tweets, say goodbye to like junior, a.k.a AKA CHL hockey, where it's like,

no man, you're going to get more of these top prospects playing for a few years where if they're that good, they would have gone off and played pro anyway. So now they could stop there, show off their skills for two more years, develop at an even higher level level with more resources. And Hey,

if the plan was to go off to college, at least those those those teams got two years of production off off of an unbelievable player and see you later whether it would or not otherwise so this is a good thing for hockey overall and the example i used before was just it's based off a guy i talked to tyson nash where his kid played in the WHL and he was a little bit undersized where you know he played a couple years finally got his footing underneath him by the time he played his his second last year and then in his overage year he was a dominant player but maybe he would have had to go play in the ECHL no go get a good education and no offense to the ECHL but

go play at a high level of hockey get a really good education and no offense to the ECHL, but go play at a high level of hockey, get a really good education. And maybe the road doesn't stop after that, where you're not really pigeonholing yourself or not only can you play high level hockey, but get that education. So in his example was it's so stupid that he can't go off and do that. Well, now he can. So good, good for them to figuring this all out. And I just think it's going to help both leagues out. I think it's going to help out college. I think college hockey now is going to get even better.

In the notes here, G's mentioning it's great for the smaller market NCAA teams who kind of get smoked in the transfer portal right now. I don't know if they'll ever change the transfer portal in any way where they kind of limit the amount of times the kids can move. Right now, you can play four years of college

on four different teams. It's a little crazy. I think that's bullshit. I think it's a little hectic for coaches to not be able to plan moving forward because all of a sudden, the kid's in the portal. It's like, oh, we planned on having him. We got to go another route now. I could picture now you'll still have

the Connor McDavid's, not even McDavid and Bedard's, but high level kids going to junior at 16, going to the NHL at 18. That'll still happen. But for a lot of other kids, man, you play two years in the O, two years in the dub, then you go over and you go to BU or something.

As you're saying, you don't need to be ready to play in the NHL at 20 years old. There are so many kids who are undersized. They're late bloomers. And all of a sudden now you go to college. You're 23, 24. You graduate.

You get an NHL contract. And thankfully for that stop, that ability to go play college after junior, you grew into a man. Your game came into form. And you found a way to get to the NHL through a totally different path. So it's crazy to see. I have been so impressed with what the USHL has turned into, especially in getting these Canadian kids like Adam Fantilli. He goes down and plays for Chicago. Owen Power plays in Chicago and you've seen the Chicago Steel be basically the powerhouse of these big time prospects. They might take a hit, which I do feel bad for,

but the overall game of hockey, especially college hockey, will just be that much better for this. Agreed. And just going back to my transfer portal comment, I think that if it is a case where you do it once, you should be able to slide right in. But if you do it again, then it should be a situation where maybe you have to sit out half a season or a season. It used to be if you did it, you had to sit out a whole season or it used to be if you did it you had to sit out a whole year correct i think that you should get one strike because sometimes the

you know maybe the coach didn't take a liking to you and you committed there and you find yourself you know being a healthy scratch and you could go to another team where you're you're you know you fit in a little bit more so doing it one time isn't the worst if you're if all of a sudden you're on four different teams throughout your college career like come on here like i think the one discussion i had about it i don't know if the i don't know if the the team is necessarily the issue if that's the case yes and the one discussion i'd had before was um i remember when i was playing college there'd be guys who chatted about how stupid it was or how ridiculous we thought that if you left, you had to sit out a year. It's like,

who's going to do that? Cause you're thinking more about, um, a kid going into his junior year, a nice freshman class comes in and you're playing fourth line and out of the lineup. And you're like, I got two years left.

And those types of kids are like, they should be able to move somewhere else where they could play more. And they could at least like get a chance to, to be a bigger part of a team. I get it. But when you have the kids who are playing first power play 20 minutes a game as a forward and they're leaving that is something where it's like all right well you kind of got everything you want i understand maybe the team was bad or you didn't get along with the coach but if you're playing an enormous amount and big minutes and a key player on a team and you're leaving that's where i think

the coaches are like this is out of control so we'll see what happened and you also in certain cases then might be doing it for the wrong reason because these guys could get paid now right so if you're just jumping to get a bigger bag or whatever it may be we're like you're saying if they're giving it getting everything that they want and yet they still want to leave what are the reasons so uh i think it's a great thing and even going back to my ushl comments where maybe it doesn't hurt them. Maybe for whatever reason, it helps them. Nobody really knows the ramifications until it begins. I just can't see Canadian kids going down there anymore.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it would be like, I think Fantilli, like he would have played in the O, you know? Correct. So we'll see. But it's still, it's kind of a landmark moment in player development for this to happen and we'll see what ends up going on in the ramifications if it even passes it sounds like it will so it's a pretty cool story but with that i think it's time to go to our boy ryan reeves i gee was this is the champ is here this is his fourth time on the show fourth or fifth but including uh all the live streams that he's come on as well.

He's in the tens at this point. He's Chicklets Nation. He's an awesome guy. And he's, if not the toughest, he's right there. Revo, sorry, take it back. You are the toughest. And if I say one more thing about Mitch Marner, he might kill me. You're dead.

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on, I think this might be your fifth time. The champ is here. The champ is here. The champ is here. Already given us that flex bicep ryan reeves revo what's going on bud thanks for coming on fellas long time no see long time long time we haven't chatted in quite a while it's hard to get these maple leafs on the show biz these guys it's a different breed up there oh yeah oh yeah they got your nuts and a vice there they make you they keep you tight it's a tight knit up here oh they know just answer this revo revo answer this is it our year it's it's our

year it is one it's 100 our year biz we don't want to hear nothing about it it is 100 are you well once you sign off and we drop this episode i'll talk some shit but you know how i work i don't say things to people's face i wait till they leave you're mad at the people i know i know you go where the people go but hey you know what i think biggest news in leaf land you know new coach and all that but it's austin matthews getting the c and and with you getting to spend a year with them and kind of seeing how not only the player he is, but the leader he is, does it make sense? And I imagine it was probably hard for Tavares, but a pretty unselfish move for him being on board. Yeah, I mean, obviously, it's a hard situation.

You have a guy in Johnny who is a great leader, who's done nothing but great things for the city, the organization. And then you have Tone tone who um has shown that he can he can lead and you know on and off the ice so um johnny has handled it very graciously um much better than i think a lot of people would have handled it uh he's been around the room he's uh he hasn't changed a bit he's joking around he's been loose so um you know sometimes these things happen sometimes you just gotta pass the torch to the younger guy. And I think it's going to be fine. They seem fine.

And Johnny's been great. So I think we're good. I think he's one of the classiest guys in the league, especially the way he handled it. And what he said at the press conference too, I know he read it off his phone or whatever, but I just thought everything that he said was top notch. Yeah, he's been classy about the whole thing. And like you said, it's got to be a hard situation I just thought everything that he said was top notch. He's yeah.

He's, he's been classy about the whole thing. And like you said, it's gotta be a hard situation for him. You know, it's not easy, uh, getting put in that situation,

but, uh, hats off to him. He's been, he's been unbelievable. Revo. I actually didn't even want to ask any questions. I just wanted to get you on to,

to, so you could personally apologize to Mitch Marner for me. Cause I was a little hard on him after a playoffs last year and maybe his performance. So if you could just pass along the message, I me because I was a little hard on him after playoffs last year and maybe his performance. So if you could just pass along the message, I was being a hardcore fan and I was speaking some nonsense. So if you could give him my apologies. I did say that, but you know what, Biz?

I think you have to do that to his face. I think the telephone apology isn't going to work here. That's like a wit apology biz you sound like me like hey can you tell that guy for me i'm sorry what i mean is like i don't like that i don't like that in all serious no revo like we have talked about his skill and everything and he gets a lot of heat did you kind of feel bad for him is he able to kind of put that stuff to the side because a very special player who all of a sudden has like entire leafs nation coming at him where it was like everyone you know you win as a team and lose his team so i imagine you as a guy who protects all these dudes you had to feel a

little bit like this isn't necessarily fair oh i i didn't think it was fair at all like um you can't put a whole playoff series on one guy and you, you know, just because one guy's not, it's not like he was, you know, it's not like he was horrible. You know, the points just weren't coming for him. And, you know, that happens. But you win as a team, you lose as a team. You guys know that. You're not, you can't just point the finger at one guy.

So, yeah, I felt bad for him. Everybody was jumping on him, business jumping on him. You know, if I was around, I would have slapped the shit out of you. But that's just how it is up in toronto that's just how it is in the hockey nation why why don't we do that as an apology how about the next time i see you i'll let you slap me square in the face no you know what as an apology you book rough and rowdy for when i uh when i retire all right okay i'm gonna deal i'm Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm low on T, so I need like a handicap. Yeah, he's low T now, dude.

I got low T. Yeah, no testosterone. Why? What's wrong? I don't know. He's the horniest person in the world that says he's low T. It makes no sense. I shit my pants the other day.

There's a lot going wrong with me. There's no weight class in Rough and Rowdy, so you do what you got to do. No, but in Leafs Nation, Revo, it must be crazy. I mean, you were a ranger. But it's just different up there in terms of going out to dinner, just leaving your apartment or your house. Was it really kind of shocking for you to deal with it at the beginning? And you're somebody who loves being a part, being a good quote,

talking to media. But it must have been a little overwhelming at times. You know, it was hard for me at the beginning of the year because i was playing like shit and you know like you said when you when you're not performing here the you know the media jumps on you the fans you know the you know the fans are sitting in their parents basement they jump on you but uh it it definitely happens and i uh you know i went through a little bit of a tough stretch there where you know i couldn't get anything going on the ice and i uh you know i went through a little bit of a tough stretch there where you know i couldn't get anything going on the ice and i was getting scratched everybody

wants me out of here and uh yeah it was it was the first time i really experienced some you know uh low confidence for a couple months there and then when i finally came back you know i played better kind of kind of a tale of two uh two seasons for me so um hopefully i'm going to start off where i ended and then just keep that going for the rest of the year. I think it was a knee injury where you ended up just jamming it up in the wall, it looked like. But like you said, Revo, the second half of the season, you guys had so much chemistry

on that fourth line and it really led into playoffs. What was it that was at that layoff with the injury that helped you reset and get a little bit more confidence i i think so i honestly i i treated that a little bit of time i had i think it was almost two months i didn't play i treated like a mini training camp i was working on speed hands just everything i'm getting fast again obviously rehabbing the knee but i think you know that time off just to reset and kind of get the noise out of my ear and just get my legs back under me uh really helped you know it was like my first game. I felt great coming back and then just kind of never looked back. That's what's hard about like coming back from a lower

body injury is like, you know, you're up if it's if it's a shoulder, you could be buzzing around. So that was like amazing for you to come back and play that much better. But it's interesting to hear you say your confidence was a little bit shattered because you are a confident guy like that had to be something that you're like all right i'm i'm digging deep here to find like my game again and almost block out the noise that you can't help but see when you're on the leafs yeah well that was the thing it's like i'd never been through you know obviously i've been on teams where you know i have a couple bad games and all the fans just like oh holy you know what's this? What are we doing with this guy? But I went through a pretty long stretch there.

It was like 10, 15 games where I was horrible. You know what I mean? I just couldn't get it. And then some games I wasn't horrible, but I was still eating daffies all the time. Or you'd take a penalty, they'd score. Just little stuff like that. And then it just it just kind of snowballed to the point where like every time i got on the ice it was like you know just

don't get scored on but when you you know what what happens when you go out there like that you get scored on immediately right so um yeah it was i just it was a hard stretch probably the hardest stretch i've ever gone through but um you know there's some pretty good skating coaches here, especially Haley Wickenheiser. She helped me a lot throughout that stretch. A couple of other coaches for sure, too, but she was

really good for me and just kind of get my confidence back, my speed back, everything. Revo, one of the hardest things as I got older as a pro was just Sorry, Nicky Angelpop, too. Shout out to you. Oh, no was with you he's up there he's still there oh nicky's nicky's still buzzing i heard his kid's pretty nasty too is this kid playing i don't i don't know actually i met him he's got uh i just knew him because he was walking in with him he had some good nice flow like nicky does so uh i didn't see him skate though

oh awesome um but what i was saying is the the hardest part for me as i started getting older and especially being in a similar role to you was was keeping up with these young guys and you just mentioned working on your skating during that time off you're always in the gym like you're you're not allergic to hard work have you really had to alter the workouts in order to be able to keep up with these guys like a ton like you know i think i think we've talked about this you know a ton every time i come on on this show but you know when i first came in the league i was i was hucking weights around and you know sitting there bench pressing three plates four plates you know i mean just getting ready to fight all these these animals that were in the league and then all of a sudden

they're all gone and all these kids are coming in they're just buzzing around and um yeah i you know this this summer i'm a little bit smaller and then all i did was work on speed i'm not saying i'm the fastest guy in the league right now but i i definitely got faster just to you know kind of keep up and and be able to keep up with that new pace that this nhl is now and and with that said before you go with like we we talked to liam o'brien today as well it seems like with rempe coming in and some of these other young guys there's been a been a little bit of a revival of the heavyweight division so have you been doing also boxing in the offseason because there's gonna be a lot of guys coming at you and challenging you and then obviously with the

skill guys in that Leafs lineup, you're going to be busy protecting them the whole season as well. Yeah, I mean, I throw some punches here and there. I don't do it as much as I used to for sure. I think I've kind of got my technique down more. It's more just like the punching power now is what I work on. But I don't do a ton of boxing. I throw a little bit, but not a ton.

Do you find that, though? Do you find that there's been a revival? I mean, this is just me talking in the media sense. I'm trying to get it fired back up because I think it's an element of our game that went away for a little bit that the fans crave. But I'm sure Wi-Fi is going to be coming for the belt. I'm sure, I mean, I'm sure, what's his name? Rempe is going to be challenging you. Are. I'm sure, I mean, I'm sure, what's his name? Rempe is going to be challenging you.

Are you seeing it as well? No, absolutely. Well, you know what? The day I really saw it was the day that Rempe came into Toronto. There was two top teams in the league going at it, close to the playoffs. Both teams needed points to stay on top of the division. And all they talked about was the fight. was it was the fight leading up that week and then it was a fight

after the game and you know i'm not saying that it you know it didn't overshadow the game but it was just it was cool to see that everybody was still very interested in that part of the game so yeah no i i think it's coming back you know you got got you know the young guys like wi-fi and rempy that are in the league now um you know they're not going anywhere so the heavyweight division isn't going anywhere the the the people who hate it are like just screaming at clouds like because they can dog it and they could say what they want but you i remember that game and the lead up and like even in the after the morning skate and it was wild uh but back to other things with the Leafs like when Keefe was gone when when Keefe like left or was fired it was more about like hey they need Berube they need Berube and then there was a long wait

and boom Chiefs there now I don't know if you've talked to him or or he's given given out his kind of game plan for you or talk to other guys but it seems like a Stanley Cup winning coach in Toronto somebody who's very holds guys accountable is exactly what you guys needed nothing against sheldon keith at all yeah yeah you know i think when you have a coach that has been here for a while like keifer was and um you don't have the success i think sometimes the message starts to get stale and that's not you know that's not necessarily on one guy i think that's just how you know sports is i think sometimes you just need a new voice well with a different approach um you know and to me chief might be just the exact opposite you know a little more personable a little more like um you know he's going to come talk to you and

shoot it to you completely straight and uh you know I think that's what guys need here, I think. You know, he probably is going to bring a little more grit into our lineup just by his style. And I think that's important for this team. I mean, going back to the heartbreak of that Game 7 overtime loss, like going through that as a member of the team with the fact that, like, Nylander wasn't starting and all of a sudden Matthews was out and then game seven comes in like walls hurt.

Like how fucked up was all that? Like living that in real time in that locker room, were you in the know or were you getting to the rink being like, why the fuck isn't Matthews playing? Like what was, what was all happening? Yeah, it was,

it was weird. Cause it was like, you know, nobody knew what was going on with Willie had migraines and, um, it was it was weird because it was like you know nobody knew what was going on with willie had migraines and um it was uh didn't know what was happening with him and he just like he couldn't get on the ice and then um and then maddie all of a sudden was just like really sick and and couldn't and just like couldn't do anything i remember looking at maddie uh the game before he didn't play and i looked down at the bench and he looked like he just ran

four marathons after coming off of after shift i was like man this guy's got to get off the sheet but you know the competitor is our best player you know you know you're not going to tell him to get off but um you know he ended up having to leave and couldn't play the next couple days it just it felt like stuff started snowballing the wrong direction for us. And yeah, unfortunately, we just couldn't recover. I know you have two small kids or two younger kids. Has your family enjoyed Toronto? Is your son playing hockey? Obviously, the madness of youth hockey around there.

But how has the family taken to living in TO? Yeah, we're starting to get used to it. I think the only thing that we don't like is the traffic we it's horrible it's horrible and they just shut down a couple of lanes on the qew2 which is you know the major highway here it's it's been madness and uh you know we pre-game skate down in downtown so sometimes it takes me like an hour to get to pre-game skate do you just stay down there no it's like an hour there but it's only it's only takes me 17 minutes to get back it's just traffic going into toronto yeah and then you know going to a game it's it's a little little better because of the traffic's going the other

way but you know it's still 35 40 minutes so you're in you're in the car for a lot before games um they started taking the train actually which takes you right to the right to the arena which is nice um but yeah we're i don't venture downtown too often to be honest i kind of stay in my area but uh yeah we like it the kids are my daughter just started gymnastics my kid my son's buzzing in hockey is doing really well so uh yeah we like it down here good for him i didn't know about locker room wise like are you are you in charge of the music like who's kind of the clown in the room i don't know what that room's like it's it's so hard to hear anything about the leafs it's so private but is it it's got to be a close-knit group yeah you know we are and then that was the one thing you

know when i when i came here it was like you know the locker room needs an adjustment it's not it's not tight blah blah i came here like i didn't see that you know maybe maybe a little quieter than than some locker rooms i've been in but you know not every not every locker room could be a party right um but no it's a great group of guys everybody likes each other we all go out together uh you know we do dinners together um i got no issue with the locker room what what are your favorite restaurants in toronto where you guys hitting up or do you guys usually go do all your damage on the road uh we don't get together a lot during the season in toronto just because guys are kind of spread apart all the all the good stuff is downtown and um you know guys who live out here don't really want to venture out that much but i will say mitchie's got a nice uh restaurant out here

uh i'll give him a little plug blue bovine downtown it's a nice spot that's mitch marner's restaurant yeah can we maybe get like a discount code for the for the you ain't allowed in there bitch you can't even step foot in there i'll be in that union. It's in that union station. I'll be surprised to even let you in union station. I'm part of the chain gang. I don't know if you heard. I'm part of the chain gang. He said it.

You got to work your way back up to that. You think it's that you think that the relationship's been that tarnished based on my postseason comments? Well, I don't know what kind of relationship you have, but I think, you know, I think at very least you have to start with an apology and not one through me. Um, God, maybe, yeah,

maybe I should do like a players, maybe like a players tribune article apologizing. No, no, no, no, no, no,

that that's such, that's such coward shit coming out of your mouth right now. Like face to face, you know, a nice base time, you know, I'll, I'll ask him if I can give'll i'll ask him if i can give

i'll ask him if i can give give you his number and then if he gives okay you guys can you know sit down you can explain your thought process and then have a heartfelt conversation with him i don't even know if i could look him in the eyes i'd be so nervous at this you should have to call his dad first and then him you need to apologize both of them have you met paul his dad might tear a strip off you oh god that's that's who i'm really afraid of the one other question i had for you uh have you met ty have you hung around with ty quite a bit because max is around i mean that's got to be an instant connection between you two you know what i met him uh i met him for sure a

couple times and then uh to be honest when i was going through that tough time he was texting me all the time like all the time he was a guy who really like yeah he chatted with me a lot he was he was great through that and even throughout the whole season he was he was really good to me yeah you we uh we were out with uh i was out with domes i don't know we're on the road one day and uh he facetimes domes all right facetime domes or you just facetime me he's like i don't want to talk to max i'm just talking to you for a second that's unbelievable actually uh speaking of max uh we had we did have wi-fi on or i guess the fans hate that name i'll say arbor jack i my apologies and you guys went to a snoop dog concert you guys have this like a merch collab going on

both of you with snoop dog and it just so happens you guys ended up in the green room together and then we heard about this awkward dab that that max kind of teed up he's like hey you guys got to go over and say hello to each other. Yeah, it was. Yeah, they will. He went over. It was like, yeah, just say hi, blah, blah, blah. And so we kind of like inched our way close to each other. And we both went to dab each other up.

And then this crowd kind of walked through. But there was like a lot of people in that crowd. So we just were kind of like and kind of put our hands down for a second. Hey, what's up, dog? How you doing? And it was like, yeah, we shot the shit our hands down for a second. Hey, what's up, dog? How you doing? And then it was like, we shot the shit for a couple of minutes. Nothing crazy, though. It's hard, though, because you want to maintain that hatred because when you become friends with the guys, it doesn't come off as genuine when you end up getting in scraps. Like back in the old days, if they went to celebrity or charity golf tournaments in the summer if you played for a

different team they would sit at opposite tables like they would not interact so i know things have changed a little bit but it just makes it a little bit uncomfortable from like the the competitive standpoint you know i mean i've fought guys and like i wanted to kill them and you know guys that i just don't like on the ice and And I would go have a... I had a beer with Tom Wilson. I was hanging out with Tom Wilson at Stevenson's wedding. And we ended up being on the same flight hall. We were shooting the shit all night. My wife got a picture of us.

She's like, oh, if I post this, it'll break the internet. But no, stuff like that. He's a great guy off the ice but on that it's and he can get that work in time no tummy sticks and warm up no tummy sticks here i've never been a tummy stick guy revo i've never never been a tummy stick guy no um i guess like going into the year like mean, how do you kind of approach everything? Because for you, you get off to a bad start last year, the injury. Now it's like, all right, at least you get the confidence going.

Like, do you know where you'll be? Like who you'd possibly be playing with? Or you're just kind of taking it one day at a time and camp and, and looking to kind of build on how you ended the year. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's my plan. I mean, we got so many bodies here i don't know i don't know what the deal is and you know you just never know but for me i always come

into camp and it's you know i got i got a lot of guys who are trying to take my spot just like when i was young i was always trying to take somebody's spot so i treat it like that i want to have a good camp um and that you know hit the ground running uh i can only control what i can control so um you know cat you know training camp is definitely the beginning and then um you know hopefully i can like like you said carry on then in my season to the start were you prepared to uh to see the type of swagger that william kneelander has especially with the outfits that he's rocking like is it absurd we saw him at soto soto during all-star break and he was wearing a tank top on he was wearing a tank

top middle of winter you know what it's it's funny because like maddie and willie both have really good style and every time like i was i was out with maddie the other day and he's like he's wearing one of those waffle like See-through beaters right And he's got these waffle shorts on And I'm like I'm checking his tags To see if I can afford everything that he's wearing But most of the shit is over My price budget

I saw Matthews rocking a Celine bucket I think it's I don't know if it's Is it like a unisex hat I thought Celine was a girls brand I don't even know. You think he'll be doing the LeBron purse pretty soon? I'd love to see the internet if he walked in with one of those Hermes bags. He probably got immersed, and he'd rock it well, too.

He's got that kind of style. When you're that good, though, it really doesn't matter. When you're that good, you wear whatever you want, and people follow. That's how it kind of style. When you're that good, though, it doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. When you're that good, you wear whatever you want, and people follow. That's how it works. Yeah. And people will chirp, and it's like, buddy, I just got another two tonight.

I got 50 in 46 games. I'll wear whatever I want. The way you put on that see-through beater, and you're going to get absolutely roasted. I'll tell you that. Oh, my God. That's why I wear like master's t-shirts and fucking jiggle tats oh hey we got i should start dressing like i should do one thing

biz we gotta you should start getting you should start getting a couple things that maddie's wearing see if you can pull it off we should make a regular season rivalry where if the leafs beat the the oilers you have to wear one of knee ladders oh my god i would love to take like a second mortgage out just to get a new outfit and and that's the problem that's the problem yeah i gotta i gotta start finding those like uh those comparable brands it's like you know this one's this one's 14 grand for the t-shirt it's like here's the here's the 59.99 one that looks the same though it looks exactly it's exactly when you say that like have you actually asked them about some of the money they've spent on clothes and what's the most astronomical thing that they've bought like no no i've never i've never asked but i i know i've seen a few like tags that you know whatever the brand is you know it could just

be like a a white tea and then you grab the back of it so that's a louis b white tea okay exactly yeah it's just a white tea those don't come in three packs no no you can't get those at costco um hey who's driving the nicest whips on the team? It's crazy because you got four guys making so much fucking dough. So they got to be cruising around in Lambos and shit. No? No. Man, we're in Toronto. Lambos.

I got the snow tires on there. What the fuck? Oh, man. The roads are horrible here. Everything's under construction. Snow's. It's cold. You can't drive a Lambo.

Most guys got a little SUV. What's Matthews driving? A pickup? He's got a pickup he's got like a little suv like uh it was given to him for sure back yeah a little station wagon free cars here i said i think i just i was at morgan riley who just posted i think he had maybe a mercedes and then even jt i think he got like a bmw deal jt changes his car three times a year so i don't know what he...

He had something at the beginning of the year and he got roasted for it and he got rid of it within like a month. What kind of perks does a fourth-line scrapper get playing for the Toronto Maple Leafs? I got a Canadian tire deal. No shit? You got a tire deal?

Yeah, me and Dom's Canadian tire. What did you have to do? We went biking, put some GoPros on, went biking through the Toronto parks, went birdwatching. That's like wit. That was wit when he played. No, that was biz after he's a healthy scratch. Come in the shower post-game in Arizona. No, wit. You even said if you even said you can remember guys stood off to get into the shower yeah yeah that's yeah i guess i don't have much of a defense when did i say i went bird watching oh both

college days when i could name the guys based on the guys based on their hogs you said you knew their hogs more than you knew the names you're a hogsman huh i'm an absolute hogsman oh um here's what i wanted to ask you uh brad tree living i had him when in arizona as an assistant gm the fucking coolest guy in the world yeah he's a great guy the best well i mean he handed you that deal you should be kissing his ass i mean trust me yeah trust me put those dsls they're very thankful for treat oh okay that's a well you got to keep it keep it clean and tight i guess yeah if you're on here fuck revo it's pretty incredible though i'm looking right now like you're 123 games away from a thousand in the regular season you got 113 playoff games like as much as it's all about the moment and like game to game and

training camp to training camp, you got to look back and be so proud of like the career you've turned in, especially at the beginning. I mean, you're in the coast a little bit at one point, four fucking years in the AHL. It's like, it's gotta be cool to know that the hard work you've put in has rewarded

you what you now have. Man, we were, me and my wife and a couple buddies we were talking about this uh like three days ago because when i first came into the league i remember i looked at her i was like wouldn't it be unreal if i could hit 100 games in nhl like how fucking cool would that be and then i hit 100 is like you think i could squeak 200 out of this career and then all of a sudden i hit five it was like you know i'm halfway to a thousand like you never know and then all of a sudden i'm kind of

creeping on it so i mean it's been it's been more than i ever could have dreamed uh that i could have accomplished in this league and the fact that i'm still going is even more bananas it's uh it's been unbelievable what this league's given me and uh yeah no it's it's been fun i've been i've had a lot of fun putting in the work to you know to be able to last this long but um yeah it's it's been a crazy story for me to think it all started out on a in a hot tub in st louis falling asleep at training camp and then who would have thought the coast hot hot water massage bed who would have thought big walls like this fucking kid's done yeah this kid ain't playing another day in the national that's it well revo this has been amazing dude i

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Ryan Reeves. Awesome guy. We appreciate him coming on. And yeah, now he's got Squanto in his corner. So heads up. Heads up, Leafs Nation. My lunatic son may bring you a cup. And you know, if you end up winning now, I can kind of take credit. Because I, you know, me, Bits,

like I'm always looking for credit. I'm always looking for credit. But Rebo's the man. I wonder what Connor McDavid's going to think of Squanto jumping ship. I don't think Connor McDavid even knows who I am, let alone Squanto. So we won't worry about that.

All we'll worry about is the Oilers. And actually, that kind of leads us into our final segment of the show, because we figured with the season getting going and NHL hockey being back in our lives, everyone, I know everyone listening right now, you're just so happy. It's Christmas morning.

Hockey is back. We figured we'd go over. Let's give a cup pick each. Let's give a cup pick each. And you could say Toronto. You could say them. I know you don't believe it. I'm Oilers. I'm the Edmonton Oilers. When you see this Amazon doc and you see the heartbreak and Florida talking about, Florida's sitting there. Matthew Kuchuk is sitting there before game seven biz. And he says to him, guys, if you put me in that locker room in Vegas last year in game five,

which he wasn't able to play. And you fucking told us that we'd be the next season playing, getting ready for a game seven for the cup. We would have fucking taken it in a heartbeat. And the Oilers went through the heartbreak. They went through the heartbreak. They have the team to do it. And I truly believe I'm not being a troll.

The Edmonton Oilers are going to win the Stanley Cup. I think they're going to deal with that heartbreak again, the Edmonton Oilers. I actually think it's going to be the Edmonton Oilers and Toronto Maple Leafs in the Stanley Cup Finals. And I'm going to have so much fucking ketchup in the building surrounding the glass at the offensive zone wherever McDavid's shooting. And he won't even touch the puck in the building surrounding the glass at the offensive zone wherever mcdavid's

shooting and he won't even he won't even touch the puck in the goddamn ozone so my stanley cup prediction is the drought's over it's our year squanto knows so this is what i think this is five is this five years in a row go five years in a row go leafs i think last year Biz you said I think did you quit on them after the season were you saying like I can't do it anymore maybe I'm imagining that I don't know Corneli I was like McKinnon I had a long off season

of rest and relaxation my ties on the beach I'm ready to go I'm back on the wagon okay you're right you quit on Marner not the Leafs you quit on Marner, not the Leafs. You quit on Marner. No, no, I'm going to get back in his good graces. I'm actually going to get a custom jersey.

It's going to have the Toronto Maple Leafs on the front, number 16 on the back, and Paul on the name bar. Just Paul. You're not going to know why. He represents you, his dad, and Leafs Nation as a whole. And the unity of supporting Mitch Marner on what's going to be the greatest season he's ever had.

We're going to pay him more than Leon Dreisaitl. You know why? Because he's actually going to be able to deliver the goods. And that leads me to my next prediction. Who's going to win the heart? Mitch Marner. This is fucking ridiculous mitch goddamn what's really annoying i can't chirp you because mcdavid's winning the heart

this is such a toronto edmonton end of the show which is just how we like to keep it mcdavid start having a roll disclaimer i think mcdavid has three hearts he's going to get his fourth i think he has five art ross. He's going to get his sixth. He's going to do it. This is the greatest player in the league in his prime. Other than Mitch. So maybe this segment's really pissing people off. But we get to talk about the Leafs. Literally no one's listening.

It doesn't even matter. All right, let's change it up. Who's your Calder pick? I'm going to delegate that to you. You know what? Actually, Stankhoven is going to be your calder pick i'm gonna i'm gonna delegate that to you for you know you know what actually stankhoven is gonna be my calder pick i think he's got people are gonna say oh that's bullshit he got to dip his toe in last year he's eligible he's gonna be playing on a sick team he's got an insane motor and he's gonna be putting up some big fucking numbers down in the D. So I got stank. Do the stank leg.

Do the stank leg. Do the stank leg. Okay. Okay. I see that. And nobody can bitch. If he's eligible, he's eligible. That's the game.

That's the game. There's always complainers online. They're going to say it's like when... Didn't Panarin win it the one year? Or who won it? When they were like 28. No. What's his name was up for it.

Remember I was chirping him because he was up for it instead of Raymond. Oh, Bunting? Yeah, Bunting. He was like 30. He was up for it that year. He's collecting social security. He's up for the Calder. I'm actually going. I'm going Lane Hudson. I he's

actually fourth on DraftKings odds. He's plus 700. mitch koff is plus 400 as long as well as celebrini and then you might be you might have to enter witness protection if we ever go to philly based on your um your assassination of his skating stride which i kind of agree with you i don't think he's the strongest of skaters but philly fans are going to take this to the grave because every time he scores a goal in the preseason and i'm sure in the regular season you must be getting hate tweeted yeah well people are sending me like you fucking idiot how's this skating you tripped his skating buddy the clip the guy sent me he's gliding in on like a shootout

he didn't take one stride i don't think he took a stride. I think this kid's actually super skilled, strong as an ox, and going to be a hell of a player. All I'm saying is he's not the smoothest skater in the world. Okay? It's a game of speed. Is he very good,

like tight turning down low? Is he strong on his feet? Yes. I just wonder, I just wonder, is he an elite skater? It's a wonder. It's a question I have.

Okay? Philly fans are scumbags. I can't hate the Flyers, though, because I love Jonesy so much. And Torts gives us all this amazing stuff to talk about. I can't hate the Flyers anymore, but their fans are scumbags. And I have no problem with Michkov. I hope he's a star. I was just saying in some of the clips I saw, I was like,

it's a little bit of a choppy stride for an elite level NHLer. Let's see how it plays out. He looks like me after my bilateral sporturnia surgery on the ice. He's the favorite to win the Calder. Obviously, he's a hell of a player, but I'm going Lane Hudson who's fourth on the odds at

plus 700. I actually think Carter Gauthier is going to be very deadly there too in Anaheim. Oh, yeah. He's plus 800. Will Smith's after him. So, Celebrini's up there. It's going to be a hell of a race, I think. I think we got a really special Calder race this year.

We need Zegers to have a pop-off season, and we need Carter Gauthier popping off and just obnoxious sellies. I want to see obnoxious sellies on the West Coast. Who? Verbeek. Buddy sellies on the West Coast. Who? Verbeek. Buddy, this is the new wave. He got no control over Cutter Gauthier, buddy. He determines what's going on.

Cutter time. He's going to tell the little ball of hate what to do, what to sign him for. He's like, listen, Patty, you just shut the fuck up. There's a new sheriff in town here. It's Cutter time. All right. What about your best to pick? You just shut the fuck up. There's a new sheriff in town here. It's cut of time. All right. What about your best to pick?

Because maybe. No, fuck off. Done, done, done. Cut it. Cut it. Cut it. I think Shusterkin grabs it. I think Shusterkin is similar to McDavid in the prime of his career as one of the best goalies I've ever seen. And his performance in the playoffs last year and Rangers are going to be a good team

I think Shusterkin gets it this season and if you keep singing that fucking song Grinnelli's picking Swayman if you miss training camp imagine the amount of guys who are going to be like yeah sign me at the end of camp yeah I mean he's he's carrying his balls around on a wheelbarrow in Boston right now so I wouldn't be

shocked if he did he's got some jam on him that kid I'll tell you that to turn down that eight times eight and say fuck you i want 8.25 uh so every time i sing that song now you're gonna cut me off i'm gonna puke all right i think we're done here guys real quick before we wrap a few things so wednesday at noon we're dropping the big deal selects video fish did an amazing job in the edit. Behind the scenes, look at how big of losers these guys are. Just kidding. But it was an awesome video.

You know, you can see who they played, you know, all the madness that happened at the Chicklets Cup, the drama that was happening behind the scenes with the Big Deal Selects. So that's an awesome video that drops Wednesday at noon on the Chicklets YouTube channel. And then Game Notes returns, boys. Game Notes returns Friday at noon. The boys have tons of fun stuff planned this season. Beer League Heroes, Show Mindsies. They got some guests on tap.

So Friday at noon, the Game Notes boys return. And next week, Monday, October 14th, we will be in Boston. Biz, wit, five iron golf, we will be in Boston. Biz, wit, Five Iron Golf, One Washington Street in Boston, Monday the 14th at 6.30 p.m., a little Pink Whitney Five Iron Golf meetup. So just remember, Wednesday, we have the Big Deal Selects video.

Friday, we have Game Notes. And next Monday, we have the Pink Whitney meet and greet. So don't miss out. Folks, I want to say and end with this. I would cut off my left leg to go back to the beginning of my career. I would do so many things differently. And I wish I appreciated it. It's like youth is wasted on the young.

Like, I wish I appreciated the chance and the opportunity to play in the NHL more. And just knowing that as fans and analysts and us getting to do this, being the best job in the world, and you fans, I know how excited you are. It is another NHL season. These guys pour every part of their being into being pros and living the life that they dreamed of as young kids. And it's so amazing to see another NHL season here. The storylines, the players, the matchups we'll see,

everything that goes into the NHL and hockey being the greatest sport in the world is beginning once again. And we thank you so much for tuning in all summer and tuning in as the season gets going, because there is nothing better than the NHL. And the fact that we get to cover it is a dream come true.

And the fact we both got to play it is even beyond our wildest dreams. So congrats to everyone on a new NHL season being here. And let's hope for another amazing run till we see Lord Stanley be given out in June. So we love you all and we will be back next week. And with all that said, and after all, you're my Joseph Wall. I don't know where he's going. Even if I'm gone, I don't know where he's going. Cause feeling is so hard to break. I don't know where he's going. Even if I'm gone, I don't know any other way Even if I'm going to burn

I don't know any other way This feeling is so hard to burn I'll get you someday