Spittin Chiclets - Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 563: Featuring Charles Barkley

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

On episode 563 of Spittin’ Chiclets, the guys are joined by NBA Legend Charles Barkley to talk all things hockey as the Edmonton Oilers advance to the next round. But first, Biz addresses the people.... The white smoke has risen. Biz is choosing a new Leafs jock sniffer to hopefully change the series around as the Leafs head into Sunrise to steal Game 6. Carolina rolls over Washington in 5 games but Head Coach Spencer Carberry had positive thoughts on the way the season went. All this and much more on this weeks episode, Tune in and don’t miss on the action. Support the Show: PINK WHITNEY: Take your Shot with Pink Whitney BODYARMOR: Get your BODYARMOR today at Walmart or a local grocery store near you! https://www.walmart.com/brand/bodyarmor/bodyarmor-sports-drinks-and-zero-sugar-sports-drinks/10009696 KRAKEN: Head to https://kraken.com/barstool RO: Connect with a provider at RO.co/CHICLETS to find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you and get $15 off your first order DRAFTKINGS: GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 1 per new customer. $5+ first-time bet req. Max. $200 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 5/18/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/schiclets

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, spitting chicken listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon music. Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is Boston sports. Our white whale Sydney Crosby. Shave his head. Shave his head. Shave his head. Ryan Whitney, Paul Bissonnette, R.A., Mike Grinelli, Spitton Chicklets. What is up, folks? What is up?
Starting point is 00:00:38 Welcome very much. Welcome and thank you coming. Thank you for coming to episode 563 of the Spitton Chicklets podcast. I can't speak. I'm excited, my team's moving on. Biz, your team stinks. Keith, you guys are about to move on, but first. Boom! Pink Whitney.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Oh! It's Friday! My earpiece fell out, I can't even hear what I'm saying. I don't even know if you guys can hear me. But listen, right now, Pink Whitney's where it's at. I was drinking it, celebrating, moving on to the second round. Big old bottle pink drink. Thank you for coming. I got to put my earpiece back in. And thank you to everyone who's ever drank Pink Whitney, who's
Starting point is 00:01:15 ever bought Pink Whitney, who's ever enjoyed it with family members, friends, girlfriends, husbands. My earpieces are broken. My earpieces are broken. So I think I'm going to have to figure out where to go get some new earpieces. They both ripped out. My ears are so big, I can't hear you guys, and I don't have earpieces right now. So why don't you guys start talking while I try to figure this out.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Show up, take your shot with Pinkwitty. What a crazy start to the plot. I mean, it's pretty ironic that I need new earpieces considering I have huge ears. So I don't know what I'm gonna do here, guys. I'm in one. I feel like The Leafs should take a page out of his book and block the noise out, so to speak.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Right, Gantz? Yeah, good call. The way things are going on right now, and before Witt starts talking again, my understanding is you did a local radio hit in Toronto this morning. How did that happen? I flew up there.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I flew up there to do it. No, no shit, live in studio with Kiprios? Yeah. He was unload there to do it. No, no shit. Live in studio with Kyprios. He was unloading the clip yesterday. I know, he's had enough. Yeah, no, the last two days, I did one before game five too, so I just wanted to stick with the same,
Starting point is 00:02:18 what got us to where we are. So I wanted to, I actually reached out to see if I could do it. Oh, did you? But yeah, no, it was good, but yeah, you can tell man. It's like, I don't know if it's nerves. I don't know if it's people just wanting this series to be over one way or the other.
Starting point is 00:02:36 They are, it's like the world is coming to an end in Toronto biz and I don't get it. I don't like it. It's just still life at the end of the day. I don't like it either. I think like it. It's still life at the end of the day. I don't like it either. I think, you know what I think really helped your mood is having Oldie by your side. His positivity, his, he knows.
Starting point is 00:02:52 You mean my life coach? Yeah. Yeah. I've hired him as my life coach. And Yans, I agree with you, it's fucking crazy. I would say 99% of Leaf's fan base is acting like the series is already over. Like, hey man, I get it.
Starting point is 00:03:09 The last two games, the Leafs have laid an egg. Their starts have been horrendous, going back to game four, four fucking minor penalties. Last game, I think they were outshot 15, 16 to four. Woll had to stand on his head. Absolute, rubbish, brutal performances, mainly from the core four. I think the culprits right now as far as horrible hockey
Starting point is 00:03:33 are Auston Matthews and Marner. They're probably taking the most heat of anyone, given the fact that Nylander has had a pretty solid playoff. I thought that Nyes has obviously been good, Taveras has been solid. But my God, the way that Leafs fans are acting right now. And just like. They're right.
Starting point is 00:03:50 They have a reason to be acting like this. Come on. Are you out of your fucking mind? He's got his life coach Oldie. He's got his life coach Oldie changing his ways. They should be upset about the performance and not happy with those guys, but acting like the fucking series is over. Why would you not act that way? He's got his life coach only changing his ways. Hey listen, they should be upset about the performance and not happy with those guys,
Starting point is 00:04:05 but acting like the fucking series is over? Like are you kidding? Why would you not act that way? Why would you give up before it's over? That's a loser mentality. That's not the fucking heart of a champion. You guys are a loser franchise! You know what?
Starting point is 00:04:18 We've earned that title up until this point, but we're still in the fucking fight right now. Still in the fight. You're still in the fight, but I don't blame these people. And as Jans pointed out when you weren't fumble fucking your headphones if they're not even still working, I had Oldie with me. And you know what, maybe I would have been a little bit
Starting point is 00:04:33 in the dumps today and not as positive coming in here and had a little bit of mojo to fucking continue this fight, but Oldie, man, he's got the right attitude. He's a fucking positive guy, man. He knows that there's still an opportunity to change this thing around. Mitch Marner, it might be his last few games as a Maple Leaf. Is that how you wanna go out, Mitch?
Starting point is 00:04:54 Is people remembering you for your game three blunder, like I talked about last podcast, your behind the back spinorama, and game five turnover in the back of your net three nothing and then they go on a six one route By the way, Yans posting that Houston's video and them beating us six to one like what the fuck is that? Like that is you when you pointed out it was six one I I laughed out loud that tweet was incredible like what are the chances it ends up being six to one? You know, you had to get that one at the end. That was you just throwing that
Starting point is 00:05:26 final punch. That was them. That was you in the parking lot just dodging one final bit. And you know what? Mitch Marner, Matthews and the rest of the Toronto Maple Leafs, they should take a page out of my book. You should be able to laugh at yourself once in a while because that performance on home ice was laughable. But guess what? We woke up today, the sun is shining,
Starting point is 00:05:51 we're breathing fresh air, and we're alive, baby, we're alive, and this one ain't over. It's not. I know that smirk on your face, you think it's over. And that smirk on Matthew Kachuck's face at the end of that game when that building was half empty. He thinks it's over too, but I like where we sit. Backs against the wall, adversity,
Starting point is 00:06:12 and I won't get to it yet, but I have a special announcement, some breaking news on this podcast as to how we're gonna turn this fucking series around. But before we get there, go ahead, Yance, go ahead, Whit. Pepper me with whatever the fuck you got give it to me I got like at the end of the day Florida had two bad games the first two games they go down to all if Rolls were reversed and in Toronto went down to all
Starting point is 00:06:40 City would have been burning down. They don't have that luxury that Florida has of just going out, figuring out their game, getting back to where they know how to play, getting back to how they played the last two years. They don't have the outside pressure that Toronto has. Toronto drops two games. They're up 2-0. They drop two. World's ending. The world is ending, Biz.
Starting point is 00:07:01 So I think honestly, Toronto should somehow elect oldie as mayor Have him stand in for the next couple days and calm that city down because you guys are riding at a 10 And one little thing is going to pop you guys off if the panthers somehow go out and score first tonight The city of toronto may disappear off the face of the earth. That's you know what he ends That's actually a heck of an idea But unfortunately that can't happen. Because right now, Oldie is in Fort Lauderdale. And that's the breaking news.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I have sent Oldie down to Fort Lauderdale, not just by himself, with my lucky yellow shirt. And we will be infiltrating that building tonight in sunrise, and he is to bring the positive juju for the Toronto Maple Leafs. He's going to be at the Florida Panthers' end and warm up with the Leafs and Sevens sign. And we're going to pull this victory off on the road.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And we're going to drag them back, just like Conor McDavid said. We're going to drag them back to Edmonton. We're going to drag them back to Toronto. I see that look on your face, Whit. I know you weren't expecting this, but all that positive leaf energy, we're not keeping it wasting it in Ontario. We're sending it down right into the heart of the fire.
Starting point is 00:08:15 We're going in the sunrise. You could send Wendell Clark, Doug Gilmore, Stumpy Thomas, you could send them all. This thing's done. This thing's over. Gee. And I actually respect Oldie, and I respect you for being like, you know, maybe 5% of the fan base. Like the series isn't over. But those 95% of people and fans of the Toronto Maple Leafs, they know it's over. They've seen this story over and over and over, and they've witnessed big, big time, highly paid players
Starting point is 00:08:50 not show up when it matters. And every good team, every championship team's best players dominate. That's literally the locker room. You're the locker room right now. You're Barube. Hey guys, we gotta get the puck in deep and full. Did you hear the fucking words? I don't know how to do that. Did you hear the fucking words? I'm the Leafs. We're gods in Toronto. Everyone loves us. I know I want to get points
Starting point is 00:09:06 I don't want to play hard hockey Chief, okay. Well, I want to stand the cup and I beat the shit out of people and I know how to do it I don't care. I want 13 and a half million I Don't want to play hard hockey I don't want to play hard hockey I don't want to play hard hockey I don I want to stay in the cup and I beat the shit out of people and I know how to do it. I don't care. I want 13 and a half million.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I want to be the highest-ranked player even though I've never done anything in the playoff. That's the Leafs and that's your problem. You don't have a core group of players that knows what it takes to win. And you're playing against a team that knows exactly. You've never been on a cold streak? Hey, Yad, you've never been on a cold streak? My whole life, basically. 41 years.
Starting point is 00:09:58 42! Yeah, I know cold streaks! Now, this team- That was funny. This team. Woo. This team. We're not getting to the Oilers just yet.
Starting point is 00:10:09 You can bloat all you want when we're done. Okay, okay, let me ask you something serious. But I don't think you heard the words out of my mouth. Oldie, who some of you who are listening right now are like, who the fuck is Oldie? We'll explain who Oldie is. He's my life coach, my spirit animal, but not only is he going down to Sunrise
Starting point is 00:10:24 to bring positive juju to my Toronto Maple Leafs, I sent him with my lucky yellow shirt. We're talking about that thing. Yeah, what do you mean lucky? Your shirt's on a cold streak. It's undefeated. You gotta wash it. It's never been beat in a playoff series before. This series isn't over.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I think that you guys have failed to listen to the words that have came out of my mouth. I don't know how many Leafs fans are in the chat that have maybe changed their perspective on what the fuck is actually going on. But if you woke up this morning thinking the sky was falling and that the Leafs are not gonna come back in this series,
Starting point is 00:11:00 log off, get the. My God. Log off, get the. My God. Leaves, let go. Game six today boys. That means we buzzin', that means we bumpin', that means we grindin'. Oh yeah boys, full gas.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Let's go. 110% today Leafs Nation. We got the juice flowin'. We got a six pack. The buds are buzzing. Let go, booze. Show these boys what the maple leaves are made of. Let's go, Least Nation.
Starting point is 00:11:33 We know how to everyone, full gas tonight. Let's go, boys. Let's go. Oh yeah, yada da. We coming. Coming back for game seven. Is this live? Is that a, I thought he was on with us.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Oh, he's always on, Witty. He's always on. Oh yeah. Now before we continue, I want to throw it over to Yans, but you know Aldi, there's history here. He was actually on the PMT livestream for Four Nations where he brought luck to Team Canada. So he has gone down to the US before
Starting point is 00:12:06 and brought Canada luck. And that was at the four nations. But now, this is gonna be the big one. This is David versus Goliath. Can he conquer the big one in Lauderdale? Yans, I'll throw it over to you. I mean, there's a 90% chance he gets himself in a Bud Light headlock at the elbow room and doesn't even show up to the game.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Oh yeah, oh yeah. He could not be on a boat. He might be on a boat. And Biz, you gotta realize, he's worse than Drake. He's the biggest bandwagon fan in the world. He has more teams than you do. So him just doing this, he's just trying to please you right now. I thought he was an Oylers fan. He's been writing me about the Oylers.
Starting point is 00:12:50 He's Drake. He's whoever's playing well, he's a fan of, which I respect. I respect his positivity, but he's not in the trenches, ride or die guy like you. He is now. Ever since he fucking shaved that eight pack,
Starting point is 00:13:03 he's part, hey, do you not get the symbol? He's part of the core six now. He's got the six pack, he's part, it's not core five. It's Illuminati, it's all getting connected. He's gonna put the names of each of the core six in each ab, and he's gonna add himself to the bottom left one, because it's the fattest app that he has on his body.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Oh, yeah, I just. I just wonder, did you see the clip? I don't know if it was when they beat the Bruins, the Bruins record breaking season or last year. I think it was the first year when they were down three one to the Bruins and Maurice is on the bench and he's like, listen up motherfuckers. Did you see this clip? Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:46 He's like, stop trying to be cute and bang their defenseman and wear them down for game seven. So it had to be that first year. That is exactly what's happened. And Keith brought up that they go down to, oh, yes, you're going home. The panic is way less. The pressure is way less because you've won the cop in, you're in Florida, not in this, you know this city full of losers. I love Toronto people, I mean as a fan base. They have just worn them down.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And what's crazy is they were up three to one in game three and then went to overtime. In the third period they were up three to one. The fact they can switch this quick in the playoffs is that shows how crazy this game is. And that actually speaks to you Biz being positive. Because why can't it switch back the other way? I just think Florida is too dominant,
Starting point is 00:14:36 they're too physical, they're too in your face to allow that to happen. And going home, Yans, are you banging the drum again? No. You know why? I'm a team player. It's somebody else's turn. You can't score goals every night.
Starting point is 00:14:49 You gotta, you look at the Florida Panthers roster. They got about 10 guys with eight or so points. Everyone's kind of in the same area of points and contribute, yeah, good word. But they're all right there and I'm trying to take a page out of their book and hand it over to somebody else, let them do what they do and go out there for game six and get a huge win.
Starting point is 00:15:12 But Biz, I honestly think the only chance you have of winning this game is if somehow you can get Oldie an ambassador's jacket. I kept the ambassador's jacket. I wanted to divvy up the luck charm. I'm going to have that on the broadcast, but going back to what Florida has been able to do, they obviously flipped the switch in that second period and game three,
Starting point is 00:15:34 like you're talking about with it was three, one that they allow that three, two goal. That was my frustration with the Matthews Marner shift that where they went over the boards, like I had my moment where I'm still gonna be positive and root for this team and believe in this team. But if Mitch Marner wants to play hockey the way that he played on that shift
Starting point is 00:15:54 and just like he did in games four and five, like they can't win because he's making so much of the money. That's the point that I've been trying to bring up for the past four or five fucking years and I thought that with chief coming in and you know different systems and you know different habits out there on the ice that maybe he would have changed his ways a little bit and Me venting my frustration for Mitch Marder and a look listen Am I am I happy with the performance for Matthews? and listen, am I happy with the performance from Matthews? Obviously not.
Starting point is 00:16:25 We need more from him. Like in game five, like down low, lost the battle, clearly not looking like himself. I don't think that his goals have translated to playoff hockey because I think he lacks going to the dirty areas. Like we talk about it all the time with Ovi. And like, yeah, he used to sit in his spot at
Starting point is 00:16:45 the tops of the circles and fucking wail away and that's how he scored a lot of his goals. But as his career has progressed, he's obviously learned that he has to go closer to the blue paint and do other things in order to find the back of the net, including take punishment. Now it might come out after playoffs that he's injured. I don't know to what severity, but at the end of the day, Whit and Jans, you guys know like playoffs is over and I would say 95% of the guys in the locker room
Starting point is 00:17:12 are banged up to some degree. So I would imagine when Florida won their Stanley Cup, look at the laundry list of injuries that Matthew Kachuk had, right? So I do think that right now they have to look within and find that dog in them that they've never had before. And at a certain point, you have to find that. Some may say, ah, you're born with that.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Because if you look across the way the players and the personnel that the Florida Panthers have, I feel like a lot of those guys, it was instilled in them from a young age. But my positivity for the Leafs in what they're gonna be able to do in game six is not taken away from what Florida has done and flip the script like that game five performance and I tend to agree with Chief Craig Barube I don't know if we're gonna play
Starting point is 00:17:59 the postgame clip about he didn't necessarily think that Florida came harder I can agree with that. They played such an intelligent road game. They won every 50-50 battle. They stayed in the right positioning. They didn't cheat the game. Just like from the puck drop of the series, they've invested in it. They've continued to hit the fucking D again and again and again and inflict punishment. Exactly like the clip that you referenced when you were talking about Florida a few years ago. Oh, you wanna play cute?
Starting point is 00:18:31 Fuck that. Invest, put their fucking D through the end wall, and slowly but surely they've taken over the series. So Leafs need to take a fucking page out of their book, start finishing some fucking hits, or at least more of them, and get fucking winning hockey. Here's Chief talking about it after the game.
Starting point is 00:18:49 The guys are talking about resetting in the next 40 hours or so, whatever it is. How do you do that if you have a fairly good idea that the Panthers are gonna come just as hard as they did just now? Well, I don't think they came any harder than they have, to be honest with you. I think we let them come tonight.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Well, you know, I mean, we stood around and watched. You can't do that. So, you know, we responded in the past, you know, and I expect a response from our team and we'll look, you know, we'll talk about things and, you know, make some adjustments that are needed. But it's more of a mindset for me going into this game six and anything else. It's not X's and O's. We know what they're doing and they played a simple game tonight and they were excellent at it. Very good.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I mean, they did exactly what they needed to do. And up to this point tonight, you know, it's been a good series. And tonight was a tough game. Biz, if I'm a Leafs fan, what upsets me, obviously the entire game five, disaster. But the first, they were turning it on and they were all over them and Echblad gets that goal, unreal shot, but you get out of the first period, one nothing, no problem. But you get out of the first period, one nothing.
Starting point is 00:20:05 No problem, like we didn't have our best. I was so pleased with that. The fact that we got out of that only down one nothing, wool stun at his head, and just like the game prior where they were only down one nothing after taking four minors in the first period, manageable, manageable. Like just show up in X40.
Starting point is 00:20:22 No doubt, and then they come out, okay, and Lawton, brutal bounce. I mean, he's trying to block a shot, hits his stick. Like I'm sure there's fans that don't really get the game that kind of blame him for that, but that's just total shit luck. We've seen at least 10 goals in the playoffs go off, you know, players on the other team.
Starting point is 00:20:43 But after that goal, two, nothing. And maybe part of it is we haven't scored on Bob in four periods now. We're now down to nothing, which means we need three against them. Yeah, that's all stuff that could pop into your head. But buddy, that it was it. It was over. The body language, the the the the lack of effort. Like to nothing, dude, to nothing's not insurmountable anymore. And that was-
Starting point is 00:21:07 Did you see how they scored the third one? Yeah. Like that to me, just like in game three, when you get thrown over the boards and you need to get the momentum back and stop the bleeding, what did Mitch Marner do? People think I'm picking on him, bro. Have you not- I wanna ask you something. Have you not watched him play playoff hockey
Starting point is 00:21:28 when it gets hard? It's fucking insane to me, it's insane to me that someone's gonna pay him $13 million. It's insane to me. I don't give a, like I don't genuinely give a fuck about your 100 point regular season. Like congrats, great milestone. He'd hit 99 points twice, but buddy, to give a fuck about your 100 point regular season. Like congrats, great milestone.
Starting point is 00:21:45 He'd hit 99 points twice. But buddy, like that's how you're gonna show up when your team needs you the most. Like how can you fucking, how can you walk around thinking that you are worth that much money? It's crazy. It's crazy to me. People think that he deserves a Selkie trophy.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Reinhardt makes $9 million. Do you ever watch Reinhardt play hockey? It's incredible. He made the dish to Boquist on that goal. It's fucking insane to me. So I'll throw up. Was that what you were going to ask about? It's fucking insane to me. So I'll throw up, was that what you were gonna ask about? Yeah, and what I was gonna ask was, there seems to be part of the fan base that is like people pick on Marner, people pick on Marner. And yeah, Matthews definitely deserves more blame,
Starting point is 00:22:38 I think this year. Injuries are injuries. If it comes out the guy needs fucking wrist surgery or whatever it is, yeah, you get it, but I The people who really sit there and defend Marner over and over I I I'm wondering like what are you watching? like what do you see that in your mind people aren't bringing up that this is unfair cuz I I Don't know like I see a play like that and then I see a coach like Barube who's got to be like I can't play this guy. I can a play like that, and then I see a coach like Barube who's gotta be like, I can't play this guy.
Starting point is 00:23:07 I can't play him. I have to play him, because he's, you know, one of our best offensive players, but if every time the moment gets big, you wilt and you throw the puck away, and you don't play hard and you don't get inside, guys. Like, how do I keep putting you over the boards? Like, Nylander is the one, talk about a guy guys like how do I keep putting you over the boards like Neal under Neal under is
Starting point is 00:23:25 the one talk about a guy who's cool calm and collected he gives a fuck he was he was the only player I saw that and nice and nice is like at least trying to for check but when you're for checking alone like what nothing's gonna happen it's five-man units that's a Florida does the fucking forwards go in they physical to deep pinch the the third forward's high, they don't give up odd man rushes. You can't do that if you're Toronto when you have guys that aren't bought in
Starting point is 00:23:53 to what you're trying to do. It's literally impossible to win like that. So. I agree, buddy, and we've obviously spent a lot of time on the Toronto Maple Leaf so far. The depth. The cats are what we know the cats are. We know what the cats are and and the depth.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I think they threw four new guys in in game three or four. I think it was Boquist, Greer, who's the nail gun? Gavichuk? Gavichuk? Gavichuk. Gavichuk. And then and then I Gavichuk? Gavichuk? Gavichuk? Gavichuk?
Starting point is 00:24:26 And then I think it was Nocek. And they got goals from each of those guys. So it's just, they're a well-oiled machine. The guys that they throw in the lineup who were the fifth liners end up making just as big of an impact as the big boys. Like they just, they come at you in waves. And I think that that's really what Toronto has lacked.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I don't know if they've drafted specifically to develop those positions at all over the last, you know, five, six, seven years and it's noticing. Like to me, Nick Robertson, hey man, yeah, he's a fast skater and he brings a lot of energy but like what the fuck is Nick Robertson gonna do? He got reinsured. I thought it was bullshit that fucking Holmberg
Starting point is 00:25:04 got taken out. I thought he's been one of their more consistent forwards. That's a bullshit move in my opinion. He needs to be back in. I get that Camp came in and he was okay, but fucking throw Holmberg on the wing then. Like, why, Nick Robertson, what the fuck has he done? He, I think he scored the one and only goal, but like at that point, I don't give a fuck about that.
Starting point is 00:25:23 I care about fucking finishing some fucking hits and getting to the net front and being an actual fucking pest out there. So it's not good, but Mitch Marner, assuming that this is gonna be his last playoff round if they lose with the Toronto Maple Leafs, he has an opportunity to leave his mark on this organization the way that he wants to be remembered. And if he wants to be remembered for game three,
Starting point is 00:25:50 fucking one on four, turning it over, no look pass behind the back, going back the other way. And then that dog shit play that he makes in his own end, not supporting his teammate, Mr. Selke nominee or should be, excuse me. And then the behind the back fucking flu flu play to allow the third goal at home in game five. If that's the shit that you want to be remembered for when you sucked all the money away from the team, by all means, man blame the city too hard to play. Uh, I'm going to go move on to greener passions.
Starting point is 00:26:19 But at the end of the day, when the hockey gets hard, Marner doesn't biz, you know, when you see tree living, hard, Marner doesn't. Biz, you know what? And you see tree living. Sorry, Keith, go ahead. No, I was just gonna say about the Florida's depth. I wouldn't even say, I mean, obviously they're a deep team and have players that can contribute, but any other team, when you have to put in a guy to play on your first line,
Starting point is 00:26:44 most teams will bring a guy out from the second line or the third line. But with how good Barkov is, they can put anyone on his line. So a guy who hasn't played like Boquist can just come in and play on that line. And he's going to be effective, which I think all the credit goes to Barky with just the way he can make players better. You ask any guy who's ever played with him like he's he's put so many people on the map, he's extended guys careers, like he played with Yogg's when Yogg's couldn't even skate, he extended his career,
Starting point is 00:27:12 what he did for Hubert over Hegg, any guy who ever plays with him just shines. So I think he deserves a lot of that credit because you don't have to jumble up all the other lines. You can just put whoever you want with him. You could put me or you out there with him right now, and that line would still be effective just because the way he can carry it and, you know, be good offensively and defensively.
Starting point is 00:27:34 So a lot of credit goes to him with that. And obviously with Maurice knowing that and not having to, you know, move guys up a line, get them away from, you know, because if they have to split up that third line, which I think has been the best line all series, most teams would have had to do that. Put Marchie on on the first line. Then you're messing up two lines. So I think the way Maurice handles his his lines and the players is unbelievable. They're getting contributions from everyone.
Starting point is 00:28:00 So, yeah, it's a fun series. It's fun, fun watching them the way that like they just impose their will on them. Like the four check in like you were talking about with Robertson. It's every guy, man. Every guy is finishing checks. Every guy is giving it 100 percent. They're not trying to make these crazy hole plays. They make plays when they're there to be had, but they're not just, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:21 out there to try to make something happen when it's not because they know it's playoff hockey And one little mistake can cost it and they did that the first two games. Sorry they did and Dude, I mean I went to the finals as a not as a as a Final as a fifth sixth defenseman on a finals team. We didn't win But it is hard dude. It is so hard to play hockey this time of year. And there's some guys who just have it in them, and then there's some guys who don't.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And that's why I bring up Tree Living, because he knew we can't win with Mitch Marner. We can't win the Stanley Cup. We can light up the regular season. And that's why he went out, and he had a deal in place for Miko Rantunen He knew and Marner has every right in the world to use his contract to block that but he knew and that's why it's like fans can't be that shocked when the GM come trade deadline is like
Starting point is 00:29:19 There's just no chance that we can win with this group. We need somebody who's done it We need somebody who's big and strong and hard on the puck when the hockey gets so goddamn difficult That some people just can't handle it. And so you're witnessing that right now now biz. Yes, it's not over If I'm a Leafs fan, I'm trying to remain positive I get where the people are coming from that are throwing jerseys. I wouldn't throw a jersey, but buddy, you paid for the jersey. You can do whatever you want with it.
Starting point is 00:29:49 All I wanna see tonight is some fucking fight, man. Some fight. Even if you go down one nothing, you cannot wilt. Now, if they lose this game in the end, it doesn't matter, they lost in six, but if they lose this game three to two, and it's an incredible effort, at least then it's like, fuck they have some jam in them.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Yeah, it's all you're asking for. That's all fans want, man. That's why fans got on me everywhere I went, because there was many nights that it looked like this guy doesn't care. I did, I was just soft, and I didn't have what it took to play at a high level when the going got tough. I didn't block shots, I didn't do what it took to play at a high level when the going got tough.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I didn't block shots. I didn't do things that these players who are on winning teams always are doing, playing injured. But I get why fans are frustrated, but they just want effort. They just want you to be at least looking like you care. And that's the thing with the Leafs. Last year, dude, They're down 3-1
Starting point is 00:30:45 They get to overtime at game 7 they cared they were one shot away but this team fuck you go up to nothing you have a great first period on the road game 3 and then Since then I literally don't know what team we're watching So how does that happen and as a fan base you're wondering the same thing like I fucking love these guys And they're not showing me shit How does that happen? And as a fan base, you're wondering the same thing. Like, I fucking love these guys, and they're not showing me shit. So I don't blame them being upset. Where's Barclay?
Starting point is 00:31:10 I want to talk to Chuck. Fizz, I was talking to- Can you tell people who old he is, by the way, who we're sending in, how you met him? For those of, like, people are watching right now who don't know who old he is and why he's gonna bring the Leafs back a game 7 victory at home Yeah, I'm not gonna say cuz I don't want him to win
Starting point is 00:31:30 You're not gonna talk about say that no, okay you want to talk about is oldie is Rick Nash's best friend and Keith first met him before a playoff game, I believe for the Rangers, he came bombing into the locker room. Was he naked? Was he naked? Dancing?
Starting point is 00:31:51 No, he had like a, like spandex with like, you know, his no shirt on, painted chest, painted back, face paint, bedazzled hat. Mind you, his wife was in labor. So he skipped the birth of his kid to get the boys going. That's the type of morale and sacrifice that the Toronto Maple Leafs need, folks.
Starting point is 00:32:14 That's why it's coming back for game seven. That's why I sent Oldie down to sunrise with my lucky yellow shirt. We're bringing it home. As negative as the conversation turned after my positive beginning, this one's coming back to Toronto, folks. It's coming back.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I'm gonna ask him, but I'm gonna ask you first, and you have a chance to tell the truth. Did you send him first class? I didn't book his flight. I just sent it to Jeff to take care of. I don't know. I don't even think he would want first class, Keith. I don't. I think he wants a think he would want first class, Keith. I don't.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I think he wants a last roll of paint. Also, Biz. We put him in a cargo plane, in a cage. That's the type of energy that he's. He was in a package on a FedEx plane. There's a chance that, like 50-50, he shows up painted head to toe in Panthers colors. He could meet somebody in Lauderdale and be like,
Starting point is 00:33:10 actually, I love this, I love this fan base, I'm gonna get Panthers. I don't think he would turn on the Leafs like that. I don't think so. Unless Yans has done something very diabolical. He also has this loose skin right here on each side of his body, and he calls it the pocket pussy and it kind of like hangs out of his jean shorts so I'm not sure what he's going to be wearing tonight but it's definitely an interesting look.
Starting point is 00:33:37 The video that he posted where you could see his pocket pussy the most is the most viewed video he has so people are like are obsessed with it so maybe just maybe we can get him on the glass for warm-up on the Florida's end and distract them enough with the pocket pussy to then maybe throw Bobrovsky off so he looks more like games one and two I don't know what he's got planned for Leafland but at the end of the day he's gonna bring it home and I'm so happy that he's on our side my life coach Oldie And before we bring on Chuck was there anything else we should talk about Panther or leaf related I mean Kyprios has been on Marner for a while now. He had some interesting comments I don't know if we have the video clip that we want to post of that
Starting point is 00:34:18 Jay Rose Hill who will be getting on the podcast next week. At least that's the plan he's been very critical of Mitch and a few of the boys, but, uh, it, uh, it's, it's ugly in leaf land right now and people want blood, but I think that at the end of the day, calmer heads prevail. Remember calm, cool, collected. All right. Well, before we get to Chuck, we got to talk about Body Armor, boys. This episode is brought to you by the Body Armor Sports Drink.
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Starting point is 00:35:26 What's up, Chuck? Hey, let me tell you something. Man, I'm so excited about today. Shout out to Ovi Oveskin. Great year. Breaking the record. I watched it. So I was at a sports bar last night because I had to watch two games.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I'm going to do the same thing tonight, I might add. Shout out to Ovi. What a great year breaking the great ones record. And shout out to the Denver Nuggets. We got a game seven coming up Sunday, man. I can't believe it. And tonight I got to go out eight, eight, bitch. Relax, man. I'm relaxed.
Starting point is 00:36:07 We're going gonna win tonight that's going back we're going back to Toronto for game seven I'm not sure what I'm not sure what happened the other night that was just bad bad bad bad but we're gonna win game six tonight my boy awesome master Matthews gonna score. They just gonna be a blowout to gonna be a blowout. Whoa. What you smoking Chuck? You know, I haven't been smoking but they're gonna win tonight. I can't wait to watch the games. Like so tonight is a big night.
Starting point is 00:36:43 If you like sports, you got game six tonight and you got game six tonight in New York, Boston. Tonight is a big night. I cannot wait to go out. I'm gonna have a few cocktails, quite a few I might add but I'm going to a sports bar tonight so I can watch both games. This is a big night, brother. It's a big night. I can't wait. If you like sports, if you really like sports, tonight is a big night.
Starting point is 00:37:13 That game, Florida, Toronto, Boston, New York, it doesn't get any better. I cannot wait for tonight. I'm not going to lie. Last night was fun. Tonight is magnificent. Chuck you said it's gonna be a 4-1 or 4-0 final and what makes you believe that they're gonna bounce back like that and bring it back to Toronto? You know Toronto is my favorite city in the world. That I'm not sure what happened the other night. That was a bad, bad thing. But you're going to
Starting point is 00:37:46 find out a lot about your people. This ain't got nothing to do with the game of hockey. Tonight is about, yo, this is the most important game. In fairness, it's probably the most, like I say, I was listening to y'all a little bit earlier we don't have to win the game but we got to make this like a real game we got to like this is the most important game in probably everybody's life because if you don't compete tonight uh if you do not compete tonight you like this says a lot about your competitive balance in your life like yeah we can lose we can lose they probably they might lose but this is all about you know what let's let people know we were in the building so I think
Starting point is 00:38:36 it's a big night for for all the guys on the leaf I really do I truly mean that like I always tell guys we don't have to win, but we have to let people know we actually gave a shit about our thing. I mean, necessarily. Chuck, I got like, you look at a game like this, and like you said, you get these, it's a career defining game for some guys. And in what touched on earlier, some guys are born with that dog in them and some guys aren't if you're not one of those guys, which it kind of looks and I love Mitch Marner, but his playoff performance, it doesn't really look like he has that dog.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Do you think it's something as an athlete that you can just turn on like that and you're like, hey, you know what? It's game six. I got to put I got to bring it tonight and I got to be that dog even though you're not born with that in your DNA well number one that's a great question listen like we have this conversation all the time I said a different between Michael LeBron and Kobe first of all there are three of the greatest players great, but he's a nice guy. He had to learn to be competitive because the killer instinct
Starting point is 00:40:07 is not something like I've never. Michael is one of my best friends ever and I got to know Kobe a little bit. They will kill you to win LeBron. He wants to win. He wants to win but LeBron at the end of the day is a really nice guy. So you can't learn to be a natural born killer but you can learn to be like hey I want you to know I was I was throwing fits with you. Now you might kick my ass but I want you to know you've been in a fight. So as far as Mitch and those guys, like I say, they don't have to win. But the Panthers need to know like, yeah, we can't take these guys for granted. We need them to know they've been in a damn dog fight. So I guess I'm not sure I'm going
Starting point is 00:40:59 to answer your question honestly. I don't think everybody's born a natural born killer, but everybody has a situation where like, hey, you're gonna kick my ass, but I want you to know you've been in a fight. I need you to know, yeah, I'm not sure I can beat you, but I'm gonna, as we say where I'm from, I'm going to try your ass. I'm going to try you. So that's really the game tonight. And the reason that's really important tonight because of that dud in game five. I'm not like I was sitting there watching that game because we were on and Beers knows we always have hockey and basketball on.
Starting point is 00:41:44 And I'm sitting here watching that game. I'm like damn that can't happen under any circumstances. You need somebody to know like them. We're in a real fight right here and that's all I tell people. That's all I ask of my athletes. That's all I ask. Listen, hey everybody wants to win the championship, but I ain't I can say this about myself. I ain't never quit I ain't never quit Did you ever have a moment where you had to call out a teammate like because that's what you wonder about the Leafs
Starting point is 00:42:16 Is there anyone in that room not the coaches players that is telling guys like wake the fuck up? Personally, did you have to get guys going occasionally or was that something that maybe didn't happen in your locker rooms? No, no, no, no. That's part of being a leader. Like hey, we ain't got time for no sensitivity. We ain't got no time for BS. Like that is so I'll tell you this.
Starting point is 00:42:44 So we went away for a week before the playoff just to get ready. So, and he actually just passed away. Oliver Miller, rest in peace, great dude, great dude. We're gonna miss him. So we go away for training camp for a week. Back in the day, you used to get a bye if you had the best record. so we go to Prescott Arizona and Oliver
Starting point is 00:43:09 is screwing around this is my first year in Phoenix I said Oliver I said yo quit screwing around we're going to the finals and we're gonna play the Bulls I says I think I'm the best player in the world I says I need you to focus. He gives me a bunch of shit and we end up fighting. And I said, yo man, I apologize for punching you. And I was in the wrong, true story.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I said, I was in the wrong. I said, yo man, I came to Phoenix to win the championship. I don't have time for BS right now. And you are screwing around. We came here a week. We got a week to get ready for the playoffs. And he was screwing around and I ended up punching him. And I wanna make it clear, I was 100% wrong.
Starting point is 00:43:58 He just passed away like a month ago. But I was like, part of being a leader, you have to call people out. You have to call people out. And you know, he was a great kid, but I was like, you know, man, this is my first time I got a team good enough to get to the finals. So to answer your original question, like I said, you know, man, to be a leader, you got to do it. You got to do it plain and simple.
Starting point is 00:44:28 But but for for them and outside looking in obviously, they're they're big dogs, you know, the guys who are getting paid the most, they don't play with that edge that you have to play with and play us right. So for my question, it's like who's calling them out in the locker room because when you're and it happens in every sport Especially in a in a market like Toronto where these guys they're looked at like they're gods, right? So my question is who in that locker room is gonna call them out?
Starting point is 00:44:54 and obviously you're a superstar player and you know the best player on that team and you know one of the best ever do it but It's I think in that crew. It's got to come from a third fourth-line guy But are those guys gonna take that well? Are they gonna listen to it? You know? You know, number one, you're 100% correct. What I would love to have seen the other night, one of those guys. Remember when Messier came out, I was like, yeah, we're gonna go and
Starting point is 00:45:23 we're gonna win this game and we're gonna win the series. I would have loved now you're gonna look like a total fucking idiot if it doesn't work. Okay, let's get that out the way. What I would have loved for one of their stars to come out and says, Hey guys, I apologize for what happened tonight. That's not Toronto. That's not the least hockey. But we're gonna go down the sunrise and we're gonna win game six. I'll give you an example. So we're the number one seed in the East,
Starting point is 00:45:55 in the West, excuse me. We get shocked at home in game one and game two. It would have probably been one of the biggest chokes in NBA history. We lose the first two games at home. And I'm devastated. It was my first year in Phoenix. I said, hey, we're going to the Phoenix, we're going to play the Bulls for the championship.
Starting point is 00:46:19 So we lose the first two games, Lakers shock us. And I'm sitting in the locker room. And I'm like, I don't even know what to say to the guys. And so, Paul Westfall, rest in peace, does a press conference. He says, guys, good at Lakers, they have flowers, they won the game. But we're going to go and win the next three games. I don't even know he's saying this. And obviously me being who I am.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I got 25 reporters rushing toward me and I'm trying to figure out how to spin this. I'm not going to lie because I'm in shock a little bit. The guy says, hey, Paul Westfall said, you guys are gonna go to LA, win the next two games. Then y'all gonna come home and win the game. These people gonna say what a great series it was. And I'm like I say, my head, like I'm trying to figure out how to spin this to the press.
Starting point is 00:47:20 They run toward me. Everybody says, I says, coach is right. We're going to go to LA. We're down 2-0. We're going to win in next two. We're going to come on and win in five. And people are going to say what a great series it was. I wish the other night somebody on the Maple Leafs had said, yeah, tonight was a bad night. Tonight was a really bad night. We should never lose a game five zips because it really was. They scored that late goal which I don't even count that. But we're going to go down to Florida. We're going to win. We're going to come back and win. I would have like I can say, no, you could look like a fool. I want to make
Starting point is 00:47:58 that perfectly clear. Well, they couldn't look any dumber than they look right now, Chuck. I know. But that's my point. I wish one of the leaders would have said that. Say, hey, you know what? I apologize for what just happened, but we're going to go down to Florida and win a game and we're coming back and we're going to win in seven. I would have love for one of those guys to say that instead of being, because I saw the interviews after the game, I saw it with the coach, like they were defeated at that moment. But hey, man, the series is not over.
Starting point is 00:48:34 It's not over at all. Chuck, I was just going to kind of switch gears here away from just Toronto and Florida specifically like you've obviously been a huge advocate of hockey. Like you've been very vocal about it. You follow the playoffs religiously. What is it about hockey that- Hey, hey, I told you the Edmonton Oilers were gonna win the Stanley Cup. I had to, I actually had them playing the Maple Leafs,
Starting point is 00:49:01 but the Oilers are gonna win the cup. But the answer to your question- Thank you, Chuck. Hey- He's the Oilers guy. them playing the Maple Leafs, but the orders are going to win the cup. But the answer to your question, Hey, I'll say this biz. I admire and respect hockey players. Let me tell you why they don't have all the bullshit that goes on in the NBA, those guys are committed to winning the Stanley Cup, which it should be, like if you play sports, if you play sports, your only objective, it should be to win. That's all that matters. I don't care who makes it. So let me tell you a story. So my first year in Phoenix, we only wanted to win the championship. I did. I said, guys, we're going to go to the championship and we're going to play the Bulls.
Starting point is 00:50:01 And they're like, how do you know that? I said, because I'm the best fucking player in the world. Michael Jordan's great, but I just needed some help. I said, I think I'm better than Michael Jordan, whichever great player is to think he's just as good as everybody in the world. I says, I think I'm the best fucking player in the world, and I just needed some help.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I got out of a shithole in Philly. I just needed some help. I got out of a shithole in Philly. I just needed some help. I said, we're going to play the Bulls for the championship. And I said, I'm the best player in the world. And I said, we're going to the finals. And obviously, we got there and the Bulls beat us. And it was actually interesting because I remember going home and talking to my daughter after game two, because I let us down in game one. Because the moment was too big for my team in game one,
Starting point is 00:50:59 and they cracked under pressure, and I didn't lead. But okay, so that's on me I take responsibility but in game two I was like nah y'all better jump on my damn back we're gonna win game two so I had like 42 something like that then Michael had like 52 and I was like I remember going home and my daughter was crying she said that you told me y'all were gonna win, I remember going home and my daughter was crying. She said, Dad, you told me y'all were gonna win. And I remember telling her, I says, I gotta be honest with you. That guy's better at basketball than me.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I says, I'm not giving up. But I said, I've never said somebody was better than basketball than me, because obviously it's a team game but I said he is actually I played as well as I could in game two and he played better and I was like my daughter's name is Christiana I said Christiana I've never told you this before I said Larry Bird is great Matthew Johnson is great, Carmelo is great, Patrick Ewing's great. But I says, me and Patrick didn't have any help.
Starting point is 00:52:08 But Bird had McHale and Parris and Dennis Johnson. And I said, Magic had Kareem, James Worthy, Byron Scott, all those guys. I says, that's the difference. But when I got a chance to play against Michael mano a mano, I say, I played as well as I could. I had like 40, 18, but he had like 50 something. I said, damn. I was trying to console my daughter. I said, damn, there's somebody better at basketball than me. Because I had willed our team.
Starting point is 00:52:41 of our team. Because even game seven against Seattle, I had 45-25. Like I'm like, no, we're not going to lose tonight. I never had 45 and 25 in a game before, but I says, if I got one game to win, I'm gonna will us. So in game seven against Seattle, you get to the finals. I had 45-25, something like that. But when I played against Michael in game two, I was like, we're not gonna lose tonight.
Starting point is 00:53:12 We can't lose the first two games at home. But so, man, at some point, you gotta find a way. You gotta just find a way. Like, if I'm gonna leave tonight, I'm going to do something that's going to mess this thing up. Because what we're doing is not working. What we're doing is not working. If I'm a leader,
Starting point is 00:53:34 I'm going to do something that's going to mess this thing up. Because what we're doing is not working. If I'm a leader, I'm going to do something that's to mess this thing up. Because what we're doing is not working. What we're doing is not working. If I'm a leader, Tavares gotta do something like,
Starting point is 00:53:52 you know what, I got to set the tone. Like, okay, again, example, like in the four nations thing, when they just dropped the gloves in the first couple of minutes, you gotta do something. You gotta do something because the other tactics are not working. I'm telling you, man, I cannot wait to watch the game tonight.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Like I said, I can't wait to watch. I gotta go to a sports bar cuz I wanna watch the hockey and I wanna watch the basketball because there's gonna be so much pressure on the Knicks tonight because on the Knicks tonight Because if the Knicks do not win tonight, they're not going to win them game seven and I feel the same way I'll be honest with you. I feel the same way about the panthers They gotta win that series tonight because they're not going to win game seven in toronto. That's what i'm saying Yeah, oh, yeah, what a what a crazy idea the thought of of beating Toronto and game seven, that's no no, I'm playing if they don't I think and I can say I
Starting point is 00:54:50 Said the same thing until if the Knicks do not win tonight They're not going game seven in Boston and I feel is 100% the same way if the league do not win tonight Excuse me if the Panthers don't win tonight do not win tonight excuse me if the Panthers don't win tonight they're not gonna like there will be so much momentum and pressure on them going back to Toronto so that great Chuck yeah I agree with you man don't listen they could be win tonight the Leafs and be up five nothing in the third period of game seven and they're losing. You understand that you got an all-in-his-hat on. Relax brother, relax. Okay. Relax. You guys,
Starting point is 00:55:36 before we talk about that, that was so exciting the other night. That was so exciting. I saw you celebrate. I saw you celebrate when Cop Cop cop and then put that one in to end the series. So, so I always have hockey and like I say, the reason I admire hockey was, was your original question, man, they don't have the bullshit that goes on in NBA. They don't have super teams. They don't have guys, load managing. They just want to win the Stanley Cup. That's the way, and listen, every time I say this shit, all these assholes on TV get mad
Starting point is 00:56:18 because they think you're the old get off my long guy. The only thing should matter is trying to win. In my day, we didn't worry about who was making the most money. We didn't worry about who was playing. I think my original point I want to make. So my first year in Phoenix, we like, I get the guys together, I said, guys, we're going to the finals, we're going to play the Bulls. They're like, how you know that? I said, because I'm the best fucking player in the world. Michael Jordan's great, I'm gonna give him this flag, but I think I'm just as good.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Now I got you guys, we're gonna play the Bulls for the championship. And my first year in Phoenix, everything goes great. Like all we care about is winning. It was pretty cool and amazing. And I remember the next year, we lost to the Bulls obviously. The next year, I remember I'm sitting down with the owner and I says, I'm not sure we're gonna make it to the finals again. He's like, why do you say that? We got one of the best
Starting point is 00:57:15 teams in the NBA. I said, yeah, but these guys now they're different. Because I'm in a locker room. I says, well, one guy is complaining like, well, what's the name makes more money than me? One guy's complaining like, I should be starting, I should be playing more. If you're going to win, you can't worry about how much money other guys are making. You can't worry about playing time. You can't worry about who's starting. And I remember telling the owner that,
Starting point is 00:57:46 I says, the team is different. Because with success, everything changes. It's like, you know, I should be starting. Well, dude, you came off the bench, you're playing great, shut the fuck up. Then you got like, you know, I should be making more money than this guy. I said, well, first of all,
Starting point is 00:58:01 let's get one thing fucking straight. Kevin Johnson and Dan Marley are making more money than me. I don't complain. I just want to win the championship. That's all I care about. But when guys started complaining about who's making more money, who's not playing, you're never going to win. Because if you're going to win, you have to be all in.
Starting point is 00:58:23 And that's the thing I admire respect about hockey players You never hear them complain about load management. You never hear them complain complain about playing time So that's why I love hockey to be honest with you guys. I Love that our quick quick side note. I was gonna ask you you mentioned MJ a couple times in his killer mentality He's gonna be joining NBC, I believe I read. Like he's going to be doing some some television. Were you surprised to hear that? And like how much do you think he's actually going to be doing the TV thing? I'm more surprised that you said you read.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Yeah. Chuck, don't fucking laugh at this guy. Don't don't don't do me dirty like that. Hey, I'm with you, brother. I'm with you. Biz, ain't nobody can come between us. Let's get that out the way. Let's get that out the way. So I think I have no idea what Mike was going to do. I don't think he's going to do a lot.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Well, first of all, I know he's not going to do a lot. I was 100 percent shocked. But I don't think he's going to do a lot. Period. I really don't. Yeah. Yeah. It's because the Grove shut down for eight months. He's got nothing to do. Well, he's probably trying to fix the Grove because, you know, he probably he made the Grove where you had to be able to hit the ball left to right. He's trying to trying to fix the fairways.
Starting point is 00:59:48 So people who play a hook hook can play there. Yeah. You know, remember, like I got a lot of golf friends, obviously, and they're like every Jack Nicholas golf course is he makes it where you can hit the ball left or right. And if you're a hooker, he puts the trees so far over, you can't play your hook. So Michael's probably at the Grove, if his clothes down. He's probably trying to make it even more a left or right golf course.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Love it. Chuck, thank you so much. I don't know, Biz, do you have anything else for this legend? I mean, not really. I was just kind of wondering anything else hockey-wise you've noticed. I mean, not really. I was just kind of wondering anything else hockey wise. You've noticed I mean, Carolina, Carolina hurricanes shutting teams down defensively. You got oilers who are fucking who surprised the Vegas Golden Knights. What do you make of the Dallas Winnipeg
Starting point is 01:00:38 series like what's catching your eye hockey wise outside of McDavid and McJesus and the Oilers. So obviously I picked the Oilers to win the Stanley Cup. You know we did a really nice thing with Liam. I actually had Toronto winning this series to be honest with you my boy. You still do somehow. No but I still still got to war. Orleans winning the Stanley Cup. But I will tell you this. If you go back and look at this Toronto Florida series and beers was in the other night, I says, man, if the Panthers win this series, it's all about Bob. Because if you go back and look, there was probably five to seven chances that Toronto in games three and four in
Starting point is 01:01:26 games three and four when Nylander got a breakaway that could have changed the series made it 3-1 in either game three or four but Bob was so freaking amazing and the opposite he's been amazing again he's been amazing again. He's been amazing again. But I thought he's the reason Toronto is down in this series. But I still feel good about my pick because you know these idiots over here in the United States trying to impose terrorists on Canada. That's why the cup is going back. The cup is going back. That's what I'm saying. Because that's why the cup is going back the cup is going back that's what
Starting point is 01:02:05 I'm saying because because of all the tariffs the way the tariff bullshit is BS you're not gonna be the 51st state you're not gonna be the 51st state well let me tell you something the cup is going back to Canada, plain and simple. Go Oilers. Hey, what the fuck? Thank you, Chuck. Thank you for coming on the show. Chuck, are you still drunk? Thank you for putting on the oilers.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Hey, we love you. Beers, what's your question? I say, are you still? Yeah. Oh, I got evil. Where'd you go? Hey, Beers, did you ask me, am I still drunk? Yeah. Well, first of all, I got a hangover. If you go at your first question is, am I drunk? If
Starting point is 01:02:56 I got a hangover, that mean I was drunk yesterday. Not today. And you're getting drunk today too. I got a hangover. I got a hangover. Yeah, yeah. Because I had an off night and I went out and got drunk all night. And this is the only thing I got. I played golf. So I was on the golf course yesterday. It was a perfect day. I played golf. I smoked cigars and I got drunk.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Then I got drunk last night watching basketball and hockey. And you know what I'm going to do today? I'm doing the Spin Chicklets, which y'all guys got an amazing podcast. So then I'm going to go back to bed. I'm going right back to bed. Then I'm going to get up and I'm going to get drunk and watch hockey and basketball again. It's the perfect day. You got any draws on right now, Chuck?
Starting point is 01:03:43 No, I burned all my draws like 30 years ago. I never wear underwear. You don't wear underwear, Chuck? No, I never wear underwear. I never wear, well, first of all, I'm black. We call them draws. Okay? We don't call them underwear.
Starting point is 01:03:55 We call them draws. So I burned about probably 35 years ago. I had a bonfire in the backyard and I burned all my draws. So I never wear underwear so I'm gonna go back to bed for probably an hour then I'm gonna get up I think I might go get a massage I might go get a massage okay and then and after that I'm just gonna I might go hit some golf balls like it's a long day but then I'm just to watch game six and game six. That's all I'm going to do today.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Absolutely nothing. What's the drink? Is it tequila on the rocks? Yeah, what do you drink? What do you suck back? Oh, baby. He's got his own vodka. That's right.
Starting point is 01:04:37 I got my own vodka. So does Whit. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I keep them here when I do podcasts. That's Whit. I've got my own vodka. I've been just drunk on a pod, too. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I keep them here when I do podcasts. That's right. I got my own vodka.
Starting point is 01:04:45 I see this drunk on the pod too. Yeah. So I'm going to do a lot of Redmond vodka. I got a gin too. I got a gin. Are you Ryan Reynolds? Yeah. I'm trying to make... Well, he sold his for like $600 million. I would like to do that just for the record. So I'm going to drink a lot of vodka. At some point I'm gonna go to tequila because I love great tequila. So I'm gonna start out after, I think I say I'm gonna get a massage and I'll probably hit some golf balls. But my whole day is gonna revolve around Celtics, Knicks, Leafs, Panthers. And Chuck, last question, who did you play against in the finals your first year in Arizona?
Starting point is 01:05:26 the bulls Michael Jordan overrated flash in the pan and I never thought Michael was gonna make it he was a flash in the pan Yeah, so we thought yeah, we lost to the bull. We lost to the bull. We lost to the bulls in six You're a fucking how many points you have in game seven against Seattle? 45. 45 and 25, I think. That's unbelievable. You know, you know, you know what's crazy about that? So you talk about being the leader of a team. So one of my good friends has got a friend Johnson. So I pulled him aside. We're flying back to Phoenix for game seven. And I said, Hey, what do I need to say to this team to get us ready for game seven? He says, you don't have to say shit. This is true story. He says, you you **** been telling us all year. You're the best player in the world. I
Starting point is 01:06:27 need you. He says, all you gotta do, we're gonna follow you. That goes back. Somebody in that locker room gotta say, hey boys, let's go out here tonight and let's get it done. And that's really important. Well, there's Nylander, Matthews, Marner,
Starting point is 01:06:44 Tavares. One of those guys got to say, hey guys, all that shit he got on the board, it don't fucking matter. It don't matter. Because like you played, you know, played 100 games basically. Now we played this team five times. Ain't no, nothing he can write on the board. So Frank, we're flying back. I said, Frank, I got to because everybody's kind of, you know, on edge game seven. And Frank says to me, I said, Frank, what I need to get these guys up because everybody's got a lot going on. He says, dude, you're the leader of the team. I need you to go back there and say, guys, we got this. Jump on my back. Jump on my fucking back. And he said that to me. It was really cool. And I remember telling the guys, I said, hey, guys,
Starting point is 01:07:36 I walked back to the back of the plane. I said, guys, we're good. Get on my fucking back. We're going to the finals and So somebody on the leaf got to say that so I told these guys those guys Relax, let's have fun. It's a game seven. Oh I said I'm bringing my a game y'all get on my fucking back and we're going to the finals and I had The Frank and what he said was he says I need you to play the best fucking game of your life and we're going to the finals. And I said, what? He says, you ain't got to worry about those guys back there. They're going to follow what you do. He says, they're going to follow what you do. He says, I need you to play the best game
Starting point is 01:08:21 of your life and the rest of these guys gonna follow and somebody on the Maple Leaf got to say like I say it can be Nylander it could be Austin it could be Tavares. Oldie. Yes. Gilmore. One of those guys got to say hey guys we get paid to play hockey we got the best job in the world y'all get on and like say, you can actually lose the game.
Starting point is 01:08:48 I mean, I wanna make that clear. You can actually lose the game, but they need the Panthers to know that these motherfuckers been in a fight. That's what I'm saying. Hey, they need to know like, hey, you know what? Y'all beat us in six games, but it was a damn war. And somebody on, I don't know who has the personality
Starting point is 01:09:09 to do that, but somebody on Toronto has got to say, guys, let's let these dudes know, because everybody think it's gonna be, this is the end of the season tonight, but let me tell you something, it's not. It's not the end of the season. This is another opportunity to do something special. Remember when Messier, when Messier did that thing? No. Like they need somebody to step out there like that. Like Mark Messier, like I say, he's amazing. But when he was playing for the Rangers, he went out
Starting point is 01:09:42 there and said, guys, we're good. I'm guaranteeing this gonna happen and I can say I don't know if anybody on Toronto has that ability but somebody needs to do it well Chuck I'm literally I'm literally tweeting it right now somebody got to do it man it's just doing it. Yeah, as you never. Thank you so much for playing. This is the game tonight. We're doing it, Chuck. I'm going to be in studio. You should come by if you're if you're if you're not getting walked on by a masseuse
Starting point is 01:10:15 or are working on your liver. This is going to the bar. I'm gonna be getting drunk watching both games because let me tell you something that Celtics next game tonight. You know, the Garden's gonna be going crazy I can't like this is if you like sports this is a good night this is a good that's exactly what we needed Chuck thank you so much we appreciate it Hall of Fame or Charles Thanks guys, y'all be safe. Have a good one. I love it. What a load. That was incredible.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Charles is in one. Charles is having a time. He's drinking. He's smoking. He's golfing. He's drinking again. He's an Asusian. He played the Bulls in the finals,
Starting point is 01:11:05 45-25 against Seattle, game seven. Unreal. And he brought the thunder. He's going back to bed. I think he's going back to bed. I wish he could fucking be in that Leafs locker room giving them that pep talk, and then fucking Marner could go off to 45.
Starting point is 01:11:20 They all be shit-faced. They don't have a round mound of rebound on their team though. You got to have a special player to have a guy like Chuck on your team. There's one thing that Chuck loves boys that's gambling and DraftKings. DraftKings is a part of this show. We're so lucky the quest to hoist the cup is in the middle of the madness right now. The action is even hotter at DraftKings Sportsbook, unofficial sports betting partner of the National Hockey League.
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Starting point is 01:13:17 Whoo-hoo, and then comes in Shack Heim and Those guys love those guys are incredible ambassadors of the game and they jump by the studio and come do those hits for us and I would say outside of the Leafs, Oilers are for sure the number one chatter in the studio. Well, obviously the Leafs because I'm in there but they love McJesus. They love dry sidle and everything Oilers right now because you guys are buzzing. So with that said we should probably talk about the Edmonton Oilers because I'm sure everybody in the chat is just done with the Leafs chatter until the game starts. I would love to talk about the Oilers. I would love to basically bring up that we
Starting point is 01:13:58 are the exact opposite of the Leafs and what we just witnessed nobody saw coming. I think both you guys had Vegas. I know Murls had Vegas. I know G had Vegas. So as I mentioned in my spaces, which goddamn, it's nice doing spaces after a series win. It's just great to just talk to Oilers fans
Starting point is 01:14:19 and it's late at night and I'm sitting there and I'm just thinking about this team. This has been one of the craziest first two rounds in the history of hockey for the Edmonton Oilers. Let's just go back. Let's go back to games one and two against LA. Done. Dead. They come back in game one, they still somehow lose.
Starting point is 01:14:38 They get waxed in game two. We have a great coach. What did he do? He put in a new goalie. Calvin Picker, Stuart Skinner. I mean, you want to talk about hate towards Mitch Marner. This guy was getting railroaded in Edmonton. I was all over him.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Everyone was all over him. Picard comes in. Jim Hiller literally might have won us a Stanley Cup. Game three, he challenges the Evander Kane, goaltender interference. We get a goal eight seconds later. We win that game. We're losing in the third period of game four a goal eight seconds later. We win that game. We're losing in the third period of game four.
Starting point is 01:15:06 We somehow come back. We win that game. Then we truck them in game five in L.A. Our first great, truly great played game in the playoffs so far. And then we come back and we finish the job. L.A. done. New GM. Coach is sticking around. Ken Hollins, the new GM. He's keeping Jim Hiller. Thank you, Jim Hiller. I think you brought us our sixth Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 01:15:24 We appreciate it. but we moved on to Vegas and Vegas was the big bad bullies Vegas was the team who broke our hearts two years ago what happens we go in we dominate game one we win game one we look phenomenal I'm like holy shit this is a different team and we had put not only Pickerton we had put Klingberg in after game one against LA. He has been unbelievable. Nobody saw Klingberg doing this. This guy's been amazing.
Starting point is 01:15:51 And then we keep rolling. We keep rolling. We somehow win game two, an amazing overtime victory. We go back home, we lose a heartbreaker. And what happens? Skinner's back in net. And Skinner loses again. He's 0-3.
Starting point is 01:16:04 The guy can't get a win. Everyone can't stand him. He doesn't get the job done when it really matters, like the Toronto Maple Leafs. But then what happened, guys? Then what happened? Stuart Skinner decided to say, all right, well, you guys aren't going to score again. Yeah, Vegas, all you big guns, all you Stanley Cup champions, all you big defensemen, you're done.
Starting point is 01:16:24 There's no more scoring. And we went on to just win two games in a row without giving up a goal. This is the Oilers. This is a team who can't play defense. This is a team who's running gun. They can't win in the Stanley Cup playoffs when the going gets tough. You want to bet? You want to bet?
Starting point is 01:16:40 Because we are now witnessing not only coaching genius, Gary! Gary! want to bet because we are now witnessing not only coaching genius Gary Gary we got better depth we got better goal-tending we got better everything no you don't you just lost in five you just lost at five and what did our coaching genius do because we have the genius he put in Casperi Capitan you guys know how we got Capitan off Off of waivers from the Blues. Off of waivers from the Blues. Our two big signings are in the press box.
Starting point is 01:17:13 We got Skinner and Arvindson, they're not even playing. Nothing makes sense with this team. Skinner has come back in, looked phenomenal. Talk about mental toughness. Talk about a guy who doesn't listen to outside noise and believes in himself. Stuart Skinner looked incredible. And not only did he look incredible, the team defense looked incredible. Leon Dreisaitl was asked because he's playing with Pod Kolzin and Kapanen.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Literally, four-liners. You talk about Barkov, Keith, you could put ballquist on his wing. You play anyone with Leon. And Leon said, I don't care about my stats. I want to be the last team standing. And what do we have? We have a leader, the greatest player that I've ever witnessed. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:54 People hate on McDavid. I don't really understand how I've had discussions with people I'm friends with that can't stand him. They mentioned he never smiles. He looks miserable. Well, I just love watching the team. Job's not done. I love watching genius at work
Starting point is 01:18:05 And what did he do after a five game series win in the second round against Vegas? He's asked about team defense and and how it's improving. He snapped on the reportage. We have to have no Three of the clip. Yeah, it's run this question over the last couple years even have you seen that the way that you guys defend and Feel more comfortable defending as a group? How many times are we going to answer this question, really? Honestly, that's frustrating that we keep talking about this. We can defend. We can.
Starting point is 01:18:40 We've showed that time and time again. Come into a tough building. And when I won nothing game, when it matters most. We can play that way, we can score goals, we can whatever it takes, we can win games. Do you think that's a guy who cares that they've won in the second round or on to their third conference final in the last four years? No. Do you think he gives a flying fuck? Do you think that's a guy who's worried about his points and worried about his stats when he's back checking in game five, going 400 miles an hour, lifting the stick of Brett Howden to save a goal and then crashing into the boards,
Starting point is 01:19:20 burying his face, coming to the bench and just staring there with blood coming out of his mouth. Do you think this guy's satisfied? This is a team. Think that happened in Leafland, Whit? This is a team, no! No, they beat with Chuck at the bar! This is a team.
Starting point is 01:19:34 To be fair, I know what it's like to have been the reporter when I was asking him about his hot tub over and over, where he finally just was like, why am I? He was disgusted before that guy even got the question out. He knew it was coming. So I just wanted to say, I feel for the reporter. I have been one to ask dumb questions. So I just wanted to make that be heard.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Go ahead, Wade, sorry. So this season makes absolutely no sense. Everyone's picking them to possibly win the President's Trophy. They're one of the three teams in the discussion. They're in my mind and a lot of people's mind, they're going to win the Pacific division and nothing was working. It was it was some solid hockey.
Starting point is 01:20:13 It was some brutal hockey. It was inconsistency. It was injuries. It was the expectations going to the playoffs. Like, I don't know, this doesn't feel like last year. And every single guy has turned it up a notch. That's what you need. Biz, Connor Brown. Oh, Evander Kane comes back. Connor Brown. How good is Connor Brown?
Starting point is 01:20:31 Evander Kane was one of the best oilers in that series against Vegas. He's showing up in in Rolls Royces. He's showing up. I don't even know what he's going to show up. Can we pull up the picture? Here it is. This guy, he is not only showing up in fucking exotic vehicles, he's posting this the minute the series is over. And from my understanding, what I've heard is the guys have really embraced his personality
Starting point is 01:20:54 in the locker room, including guys like Connor Brown, where you wouldn't think that that would be a natural fit, like a blue collar type player, and then a Vander who's flashy and loud, and you know, himself, right? So the fact that he's came back and made this impact after even after one game, it felt like he finally got his feet underneath them. It's, it's a remarkable ad, uh,
Starting point is 01:21:17 Corey Perry drinking from the fountain of youth, but with it goes back to not only the big guns, but five on five outside of Connor Mcdave and Leon Dreissel, they have 16 goals. That's two more they had compared to all of last year's run. And they have a ridiculous goal differential with those guys on the ice compared to last year as well. So the bottom six and those extra added pieces that you're talking about the guys that nobody knew were even gonna be on the roster 12 months ago have made such an impact on this team and like you it's an anomaly. It makes no sense
Starting point is 01:21:53 I would have said after the first two games of playoffs, they're done Mcdavids leaving town did think you did I Did I think that most people watching right now would agree with me or listening right now would agree with me that if They lose that first round series There's probably a possibility that he's out of Edmonton because they hadn't addressed goaltending which was struggling at the time the bottom six ah Look at the back end at home goes down you pick up fucking Wallman and in in Klingberg Like did people really think
Starting point is 01:22:25 that those were the answers no they didn't at the time but like Chuck talked about game six. Bulls in the finals. Bulls in the final like Chuck talked about it was the leadership it was the leadership and McDavid and Dreisheidel said, hop on, boys. I'm taking you to the promised land, baby. And there's been a lot of discussion about Evan Bouchard, the contract he's gonna get, and yes, there are times when you're like, what is this guy doing? But for everyone who's ever dogged him,
Starting point is 01:23:01 me being one of them, that was a clinic, a clinic, offensively and defensively in the second round. I mean, he was probably the best player on the Oilers. I think Kane was right there, Skinner, I mean, the final two games of the series, but Evan Bouchard playing like that, nurse keeping it very simple. I don't know if you saw Mike Commodore before game four,
Starting point is 01:23:22 he created a darned-out nurse drinking game. I think it was a shot when he went down to one knee, maybe two drinks of a beer when he got caught in the off-the-zone. Guy was great. And Wallman, I knew Wallman was very good in Detroit. Something went on there. He goes to San Jose, had an awesome year.
Starting point is 01:23:39 He's been a horse. The fact that they're doing this without Ekholm, though, that is the most shocking part because when he went out, I'm like, I don't know. I don't think they can win the Stanley Cup without him. I have completely changed my opinion, as every other Oilers fan has, because of the madness around this season. I mean, nobody even brings up Nugent Hopkins. Nobody brings up Hyman. Hyman's averaging like seven hits a game. He's just running around. They put Kaepernick in the lineup game four. I think he had what could have been three penalties in the first shift, but he said,
Starting point is 01:24:12 I'm going to go Chuck style. I'm going to get loaded in the locker and go out and run Petro through the boards. So I don't Dallas scares me. Now, Winnipeg still alive. We'll get to that in a little bit. I think Dallas takes care of that series at home. There's a game six, guys. There's two tonight, and then there's one the next night. But it's just amazing to see Edmonton play like this, considering after the first two
Starting point is 01:24:35 games of the first round, Biz, you were right. They look dead, but they're never dead. And that's the coolest thing about rooting for this team. They have some serious resolve in that locker room. There's no give up, there's no quit, they're led by a complete psychopath in Connor McDavid, which all these great champions were like that. They're crazy and he's not going to relax. They're killers, Biz. You're muted, buddy. Can't hear you. Can't hear you. Can't hear you.
Starting point is 01:25:06 I'll talk over for you. I said he's going to leave at Mn. Go to Toronto. I've been working nonstop in the hotel room. McDavid's leaving. Oilers are going to lose their franchise. Don't know how they continue in the league. That's what Biz was gonna say.
Starting point is 01:25:29 And he's muted because I think- Oh, I thought that was Biz. Oh, what's up? Oh, nobody's- I just wanted to say that Ms. Davis is going to Toronto and I'm telling you, I'm going back to Welland. I met a girl on Raya and she loves me. So it's cool being me.
Starting point is 01:25:52 I'm pissed. And then, you know, sometimes I get this lucky shirt and McDavid's gonna wear it at the press conference when he comes to the league. Or the big one. I didn't realize that shirt was a short-sleeved dress shirt, too, it was like a barber's shirt. No, I cut it off,
Starting point is 01:26:10 because I wanted to show my tattoos on my arms. And then the, my... Oh, what's up? Hey, Biz. Please don't work. Don't work. Oh. It was working when I started it.
Starting point is 01:26:27 You guys know the Leafs are gonna come back and win this thing? Do you know that Pink Whitney vodka's the number one selling vodka in North America flavored? Me and Chuck are going out tomorrow night. Biz is, I'll tell you right now, Biz, last year he realized the Oilers are for real, and he was wearing a belly cut-off shirt, all play,
Starting point is 01:26:50 like he knew in the finals, this team's legit. I don't know what happens, oh. Oh, shit, they're broken. What is going on with this guy? I think that Chuck might have sent him booze and in the last 20 minutes he got on his, or maybe Chuck breathed on him. Yeah, seriously.
Starting point is 01:27:12 With this series too though, I think Vegas is gonna be one of the most disappointing teams in the last few years that I can remember of the hype going into the playoffs. They weren't great first round, like they barely got by a Minnesota team that was way less superior than they are. And then this series to lose 4-1 is crazy to me. You look at the makeup of their lineup, they're built for playoffs, they have these horses that can come in.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Oh, Biz is back. Hey, Biz. Is it working? Yeah. Hey, what's up, buddy? Okay, that was pretty funny when you were mocking me. I could see the whole thing. I wasn't mocking you.
Starting point is 01:27:56 That was you. That was you. You're a fucking asshole. I was gonna ask, can we not agree that Matt Murley's team was in fact the Fraud Squad and not the LA Kings? Oh yeah. He was fucking cool. And shame on me for picking the same team as Murley.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Like what am I thinking? And he acts like he's the hockey god and he knows every, just cause you fucking hit the Brad Marshaw overtime winner. Fuck you, fuck you. you and your fraud squad. He could fucking room with Gary Lawless at the finals when we go to Toronto for the seven game series there. Suck on that, Woody.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Now let me address, the craziest part about the Oilers, and I gotta be careful with my words here, because I don't want this to get clipped, and people are like, you know, Witt wants people to be fighting each other outside Roger's place, but every game we win, and then our fans are teeing off on each other in jerseys. It's like we have started a movement
Starting point is 01:29:02 like Tyler Durden did in Fight Club. Like first rule about Fight Club, don't talk about Fight Club. First rule about the Oilers, grab a guy in a dry-side jersey and punch his eyes shut. I don't love it. I don't want to see concussions and stitches and injuries in the Moss Pit post-game. But I don't know how this is going to change now. Did you see what they did with the Moss Pit? You know how they have the fence?
Starting point is 01:29:25 They made it into an octagon. So it's a sanctioned UFC event now in the moss pit. Did you see Stanley Cup Lady? But you have to have an Oilers jersey on to fight. Yeah, did you see Stanley Cup Lady going at it the other night? Holy fuck, she could throw some kidney shots, I'll tell ya. Holy fuck.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Like our fans are tougher than your team is. Our fans are willing to die after these games. Just celebrating. Well, Rick from Red Deer and Stanley Cup Lady fought to the death the other night. Rick from Red Deer's done, he's dead. He's done, yeah, I'm telling ya. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:30:02 It's like, hey, if tonight, if Leon gets the game-winning jersey, anyone in a dry-sidle jersey, you could sucker them. It's like, all right, well, we keep winning. And it has to be a defenseman jersey, like a Bouchard jersey has to fight the dry-sidle jersey. So the only thing- The 50-50 tickets are picked
Starting point is 01:30:19 to who you're matched up against. Oh. They don't even give money out anymore. They just give you your partner. They tape your wrist. So I'm just thrilled. It's been an crazy, and getting to watch your team like win like this and continue to move on,
Starting point is 01:30:36 it's so exciting. I think if Dallas does get it done, and Winnipeg, what a game last night. I want to get to Carolina next, but if Dallas does get it done, I think we're in for an all time seven game Western Conference. We were able to get by him in six last year, but they added a guy named Mikko Rantunen that the Leafs wanted.
Starting point is 01:30:55 I think we would take care of Winnipeg in five if they somehow came back. I'm not too worried about Winnipeg. Dallas Edmonton could be a legendary all-time series. But proud to be an Oilers fan. They sent me this beautiful lid. They sent me a bunch of stuff. Water bottles. I'm gonna fill it up with Chuck's vodka after this
Starting point is 01:31:13 and get crippled. But phenomenal. Phenomenal so far. And I think with that, we can maybe chat about Carolina Biz. Because- Oh my God. Listen, everybody's been bitching. Yeah. Quickly. Cause I want to talk about something.
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Starting point is 01:32:55 I gotta go poop. Keith, Carolina fans, congrats to you guys. I'm looking at you guys. An amazing fan base, an incredible home ice advantage a Team that is fast and relentless that plays just like their coach played when he raised the Stanley Cup as your captain in 2006 It's been amazing, but they're a pissed-off group, and I don't really blame them I'm confused why they're so pissed off and the main reason I bring that up is because people are calling them boring. I think that series was one of the most boring hockey
Starting point is 01:33:30 series I've ever watched. I really like, credit to you though, you made it boring. My thing is, why do you care if clowns like me and clowns like Biz think that you're boring if you're winning? It should almost be something where you're laughing at us, which I think you probably are, but it's like I don't care how boring.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Do you think the 95 New Jersey Devil fan base cared that they were boring? No, they cared that they were drinking with Chuck at the parade, and they cared about the Bulls in the finals. But the Carolina Hurricanes, they are, I would say, one of the deeper teams. They're very fast. They're amazing on home ice. But they know to win games, they can't play run and gun hockey. People want to see run and gun hockey. I like that.
Starting point is 01:34:18 But the Oilers have won games in a boring way. I don't think game five was boring against Vegas. It was a little more exciting than a Carolina win one nothing. But who cares what all of us say? Because you keep on winning. Now, here's the issue. You just made mincemeat of Washington. I mean, they were they were they had seven goals in five games, like just excellent team defense.
Starting point is 01:34:40 You got Svechnikov with eight goals already. He's been incredible. You have the best defensive defenseman in the NHL I'd say in Jacob Slaven. You have a team that can win the Stanley Cup But now you're on to the Terror Dome and that is the Eastern Conference Finals. This is your third trip I believe since 2019 you haven't won a game. Now when people call you boring I think part of it is that They have the thought of you getting swept the past two Eastern Conference Finals in their mind, thinking, yeah, you could get through the first
Starting point is 01:35:09 two rounds playing that way, but you got to have big guns to continue the magic and continue on to the finals. This team does feel different. I know when they played the Bruins in 19, they were overmatched. I don't think they were as overmatched as the series outcome against the Panthers in 23. The famous Rod Britton or we weren't swept series when they did in fact lose four in a row. I think that first game in that series, did it not go to five overtimes, four overtimes? Remember Kachuk's board? Yeah, that was the one Kachuk left, right? I think it was, yeah, it was three or four, right? No, I think he had two overtime winners in that series and the other one he might have left chat
Starting point is 01:35:49 gee help me out here I I think this team though fuck man they got the Nikitian came in last night look pretty good they have Jackson Blake as a rookie on the first power play the kids are waterbuggies and animals, Stankhoven plays to their style, Taylor Hall looks reborn. Oh, I'm sorry, Ian Draw, he scored another one with a minute left to go up one. That was when he did the sliding celebration,
Starting point is 01:36:16 I believe, in Florida. Just an incredible series by the Panthers. I think that Carolina is not gonna be swept in the conference finals. If they play the Leaf somehow, according to Chuck, that they're gonna win, I think they take is not going to be swept in the conference finals. If they play the Leaf somehow according to Chuck that they're going to win, I think they take care of them. Florida and them, I don't know if they can beat Florida, Keith. I'm not exactly sure.
Starting point is 01:36:34 I'm ranting. I'm going to let you talk here in one sec. I just want Carolina Hurricane fans to stop caring about what anyone says. Who cares? You got to be able to just let everyone else's opinion go in one year, out the other, like my headphones at the beginning of the show, and just say we win. We win, we shut everyone up,
Starting point is 01:36:54 it doesn't care if it's boring, I don't mind if we win one nothing, because all we do is win. So I don't know if they're gonna be able to get it done, but congrats, because you just made Washington look like an AHL team. Yeah, they sure did. And great breakdown for them. I agree with you that if they play Toronto, I think they'll make light work of them.
Starting point is 01:37:17 If it's Florida, I don't think because what Carolina does, they make teams play the way that they want to play. They make them play the greasy game. They make them play the greasy game. They want to play the heavy game. They almost they'll take away your skill and make you play like every line is a fourth line. I don't think they could do that to Florida. I think Florida is a little too well coached and the been there done that team
Starting point is 01:37:42 that they've seen pretty much everything in the last three years where they know to just go out and play their game. If for some how it is the Leafs, I would tell the Leafs, try to win these games six, five, like let's just go play run and gun hockey for a little bit, which they can do mostly in, you know, the regular season they do that. But I don't think it's,
Starting point is 01:38:02 I don't think if it's against Florida that they could impose their will like they have on Jersey and Washington. They just completely made them play the way that they wanted to. And it was just a masterclass. Gee, before you, go ahead, go ahead. I was just gonna chime in here
Starting point is 01:38:17 and you mentioned going six, five with them. I think Freddie Anderson's the biggest X factor in this series. Like no question. Because if you're gonna get to Freddie Anderson when he's healthy, when he's on his game, I actually do think the Canes have a shot at taking down anyone here the way they're playing. I think they could win the Cup.
Starting point is 01:38:34 I agree. I really think they could win the Cup. But with him, with him, because as we've seen in the past, Freddie gets hurt. So if Freddie gets bumped in, you know, if if Sam Bennett does that same shitty play with Stolares there, I don't know. Like I never say his name. It's so fast. Dolores. That was Chuck for a second.
Starting point is 01:38:55 This is Chuck right here. Still, I was. But yes or no, don't you guys think it kind of comes down to Freddy Anderson? It does. And gee, here's the thing. I thought the other night, all right, against Florida, they're just going to kick the shit out of them because like.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Carolina is not the biggest, strongest team, they're quick, but Florida, like, look at what they do. They just wear you down. The series gets long and you can't continue to take the bumps and the four checks. But I thought Washington would do the
Starting point is 01:39:24 same thing to them. I thought Washington before that, I'm like, they're just gonna physically dominate them. Dude, they couldn't even get shots. You're watching these games through two periods. Washington would have like 12 shots. It's like, all right, the physicality doesn't matter. So that's kind of where I'm like,
Starting point is 01:39:42 fuck, maybe they can slow down Florida too and just take away their physical ability and just grind them out down low. Biz. Can you hear me? I had to take a massive shit. Sorry about that, boys. So we're talking about Carolina.
Starting point is 01:39:57 I forgot to mention, G brought up, they can win the Stanley Cup. Now, they got to win a game in the conference final for me to really believe, considering they eight in their last also depends who they're playing too we don't know I actually think they're own 12 in their last three trips because in the last three trips they have not won a game it was against Pittsburgh I believe Philly or I believe the other one was against Boston where they lost four straight and then of course, Florida
Starting point is 01:40:25 I don't know what you guys have dove into because once again, I was taking a massive shit a little bit nervous You know for a game games game six jitters Masterclass by the Carolina Hurricanes they scrape they skated Washington into the ground Their penalty kill is incredible. They're just as good defensively on the kill as they are five on five. It's a banana lance. Their power play came too. After the first game, it was brutal. Made some adjustments.
Starting point is 01:40:53 I think they found the back of the net in game two, and then they never really had that many issues after that. It would generate momentum. Their zone entries were a little bit cleaner. It wasn't as quote unquote disastrous as it was in game one. So that was really the only glaring issue that they had as part of the series.
Starting point is 01:41:12 Anderson looked incredible. It looks like the rest from the regular season, cause he wasn't playing night in night out, really benefited him. Even the little layoff he had in playoffs after he got bumped by New Jersey. Their defense, I mean you heard Carberry, did you roll Carberry's clip about Slavin and how he should be nominated? He should be nominated for the Norris every year. We'll go down to history and I'll just
Starting point is 01:41:36 speak for myself is this is one of the greatest seasons that I've ever been a part of as a coach or a player. And I'll never forget this group. But I told those guys, I love them and every single one of them, what we went through as a group this year and what they accomplished and always record and everything that went into this season. I will never forget this group. Well, this has nothing to do with the Slaven comment, but that's him pumping his own team's tires.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Thanks a lot, whoever threw that up there. We'll get to that clip, though, and pump Washington's tires on the way out. But basically, he said, he goes, the fact that this guy's not nominated for the Norris year in, year out, I think just pretty much furthers the argument that they need to have a defensive defenseman award. Or people should rethink the
Starting point is 01:42:25 fact of how they should vote for the Norris because he was a wet blanket and surprisingly Slaven he has a better point per game average in playoffs than he does in the regular season he's about a half point per game in the playoffs doesn't take minor penalties and is a complete wet blanket out there when it comes to shutting guys down. But to a man on the back end, I thought, like I said, a master class and all the additions they've made and just the way they play. I rolled a few clips over and over on the broadcast of them losing an offensive zone
Starting point is 01:43:01 draw and how Brent Burns, when it goes D to D. He's the one going down because he knows he has that S F three support. So the way they constantly attack, but then yet cover for each other and it doesn't matter what position you're playing they're covering. It's, it's, it's like pretty to watch. I know there's been a massive amount of criticism that it's boring. And I think that the matchup between them and Washington was boring. I didn't necessarily think that between them and New Jersey. I thought the games were definitely more exciting. So take the criticism for what it is, but watching them skate a team into the ground
Starting point is 01:43:38 to me wasn't as boring as most people played it out to be. So congrats to Rod the Bod and what they were able to accomplish. They've earned their rest and I think that they're gonna need it whoever they play whether it's Toronto or Florida because I do think that I would favor either of those teams against them but as we know in the past and now I think that they enjoy being the underdogs because a lot of people didn't have them winning that series against Washington and they easily dismantled them so that's pretty much all I got to say I think you've
Starting point is 01:44:11 pretty much named all the forwards and all the guys whose tires we had to pump Shvetchikov probably the most glaring forward in my opinion eight goals I think he's one behind one behind Ratan right now for the lead in playoffs. So bravo to him. And maybe he's budding as that superstar. We continue to say that they don't have. So if I look at when they play Florida, you know, all right, say you match up Barkov and Ajo. I think Barkov is a better player, but Ajo's phenomenal. All right, we'll call that like a wash. Then you go to the center, second line, Roslovich. I mean, he's going against Bennett. I think that that's a big time mismatch, right?
Starting point is 01:44:56 And then you go to Jordan Stahl, great third line checking center, but Lundell, I think he can answer him. And you look down the middle, I mean, you look on the wings, and that's where you see the difference in these two teams. I don't know if they can slow down Florida the way they did Washington. I think that Florida is that much better than Washington, but I can't wait to see it. I can't wait to see Carolina. I do think that this series won't be as boring. I think they knew just we're just going to completely smother Washington and
Starting point is 01:45:25 they'll have to change certain things in their game against Florida. But I want to give the fans credit because it's an incredible fan base. I would love to go down there for the finals. The games there, do you guys remember the Oilers game we went to two years ago? It's awesome. They have an incredible fucking awesome. But I don't I just don't get why they get so upset when people call them boring. It's like, yeah, you've passed it for your team. Yeah, they should be proud of that.
Starting point is 01:45:47 They should be proud of that. Wear that with a badge of honor. They're making the games born and they're winning it. You don't wanna play an exciting game against Alex Ovechkin and Tom Wilson. You want it to be as vanilla as possible and win the way that you can. And you gotta give them credit for doing that.
Starting point is 01:46:03 And yeah, I think like you've said the, you know, a couple of times it's just be happy with the way that you're playing, you're winning games, you're moving on and you got to continue to do that if you're going to win. Cause the teams that change and change the way that they play in playoffs, they don't make it far like you can. But here's where I disagree about the boring part. Like watching New Jersey back
Starting point is 01:46:26 in the day when they would smother teams and it would be, you know, two one and, you know, they would set up in the neutral zone and like left wing lock, all that type of stuff. Like Carolina's in the ozone, like having their defensemen pinching. So like they're, they're going, like they're, they're getting in on the offense. They're not just sitting back So from the boring business, they just throw everything on net Which which works for them? So you're not seeing a ton of like creativity the office Oh, no, not as many great days, but mind you they they would generate just as many great days as Washington That was mostly because they were shutting Washington down where they weren't getting many but I also think that it has a lot to do with the fact that you go watch Florida Toronto or you know Edmonton and
Starting point is 01:47:12 whoever and you watch all these other series that are on crack are you know Colorado Dallas like those were the high scoring chances like back and forth action so I guess comparatively to that, it's boring, but I think that it's been getting a little bit too much criticism for the boring side of it compared to what's actually boring hockey. Like I said, I just showed those clips on there where it's like, they're fucking in the Ozone.
Starting point is 01:47:40 They got Brent Burns pinching on one end and he's rimming it around, and then you got Slaven pinching on the other. It's like, holy fuck, they're coming at you, Kami Kazi style. Like it's fucking you're under attack here. So at home, it's impossible to it's like, it's impossible to deal with that team. You're literally in a hurricane. Like that's why they call them the hurricanes. You're in the eye of the storm.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Um, just going over to Washington, though, like I felt like I felt with. The eye is the eye of the storm. Just going over to Washington, though, I felt like, I felt, what's that? The eye is calm. The eye of the storm is calm and relaxed. But they're in the heart. Oh, is it? Oh, okay, fuck, well, look at me. Idiot with analogy. Washington, I felt like they also ran out of steam
Starting point is 01:48:19 because of everything that they were putting up with in the back of the seat, like all the camera crews around, like Ovi Goldchase, celebration here, celebration there. Like that's a lot. It's a lot on the nervous system. You're fucking, you know, you're going crazy. You're essentially partying. Like you're in the MLB where after every time
Starting point is 01:48:35 he's scoring a goal at the end of the season, you're popping the champagne and crushing Bud Light. So incredible season. Jacob Chickren, career year for him, big contract. Logan Thompson, career year for him big contract Logan Thompson career for him massive contract you know great trade for Bavillier who had a great playoffs I'm sure he's gonna get a nice deal this offseason like it just really feels like they had a lot of great stories and we do have that clip from Carberry he did touch on the success of the season and
Starting point is 01:49:03 the last one this is what he had to say about Jacob Slaven. As they're in this league and another shout out just quickly because he doesn't get enough credit. I think he started to get credit since the Four Nations Jacob Slaven is how he's not in the Norris Trophy conversation every single year. It's, it doesn't seem right. Obviously the guys that are there are tremendous players in their own right, but that, he's one heck of a player. A little tire pump. I know that the Caps, they went to the final,
Starting point is 01:49:42 I think 97 or, Detroit swept them. So that's an amazing run to win your conference. But I think most Capitalist fans would say this is their second favorite season ever. Right? Like, it was an... no one thought they were going to do shit. The only thing anyone cared about is the OV chase, and even most people thought that would be next season. And it turned into an incredible run. Like, I think that that fan base is probably the happiest losing round two.
Starting point is 01:50:10 I know that sounds ridiculous, but it's like, fuck, we didn't even think we'd maybe make the playoffs. We got to see this amazing record, and he broke his leg in the middle of the year, and then we got to win the first round and dominate Montreal, and those games were, those were some of the best games in the playoffs, the playoffs entertainment wise and then we ran into a team that just like you said but skated us into the ground so I think also Ryan Leonard got
Starting point is 01:50:32 back into the lineup last night or had he been in the game before he's coming he's gonna be a great player Cole Hudson drafted he's at BU this kids gonna be a stud in the NHL they have a lot of great things coming for them. And it's a fun year, a fun season. Ovi did what we thought was never gonna happen in this game, and congrats to the Capitals and their fans. I didn't even have you making playoffs. Shocker, I was wrong again, but you proved everyone wrong
Starting point is 01:50:59 and you gave it a hell of a run, and you just ran into a fucking great hockey team. Nothing you can do. Caroline, just... To put it all on perspective, Washington went from and you gave it a hell of a run and you just ran into a great hockey team. Nothing you can do. To put it all on perspective, Washington went from one of the lowest scoring teams in the league with a minus 40 goal differential last season. They snuck in that wild card to being the second highest scoring team this year. So that just speaks to the volumes of what they were able to accomplish.
Starting point is 01:51:23 But going back over to Carolina, the second highest scoring team in the league only scored seven goals in five games, three of which were scored in game two. Every one of their losses, they held them to one fucking goal per game. That is just remarkable. Tip of the cap to Carolina and what Rob the bods done there. They are going to be a tough, tough out. And if it is Florida, just like McDavid said, we got Carolina and what Rob the bods done there. They are going to be a tough, tough out. And if it is Florida, just like McDavid said,
Starting point is 01:51:48 we got memories like elephants when, when Vegas beat us out a few years ago. And that was the fuck that that was the payback that McDavid and the oilers wanted to put back on Vegas. They're going to want to put that same payback on Florida, but we're getting ahead of ourselves as it's leaps and seven. Leggo, leggo. pay back on Florida, but we're getting ahead of ourselves as it's Leafs in seven, Lego, Lego. I will say just about Washington.
Starting point is 01:52:10 I think a lot of people fell in love with that team. I know I did too, because a lot of cameras were on them this year. You got a lot of looks in their locker room, the way that Carberry treated them, the way that they, you know, it looked like they loved each other and played for each other
Starting point is 01:52:24 and with the whole OV race and everything. So I think having cameras around teams like that will grow more for people, you know, appreciating even more what players are doing day in day out. So yeah, congrats to them on a great year. Like you said, with something that no one ever thought would ever be done. You guys got to enjoy that and sucks losing obviously but a lot of good things to be proud about this year. I do think there are a lot of similarities too between the 06 Cup champ hurricanes and this year's team. I don't know if you if you remember like they didn't they didn't have a superstar. Now Eric Stahl was 20 and I had a hundred points that year so I guess you could say he was he was right there if not already a superstar. Now, Eric Stahl was 20 and I had 100 points that year. So I guess you could say he was he was right there, if not already a superstar.
Starting point is 01:53:08 But it was a it was a team that I don't think a lot of people before that playoffs had winning at all. And they just kept going. It took them game seven against my Oilers. But there are similarities there. And let's see what happens because they're going to have to have Anderson stay healthy. That's the biggest thing. G said that when you were dumping. G said that.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Oh, sorry G. That a boy G, you couldn't fill in there. Can someone on Florida throw an elbow into Anderson's head, which they're likely to do. They're likely to do that. They'll stay healthy if they play against the Leafs. All right, well congrats Carolina fans. Last series. last series.
Starting point is 01:53:46 Last series, guys. Connor Hellebuck, he's gotta win one road game. He's gotta win one fucking road game. And the way he looked last night, Biz, you don't think it can happen? I think it can happen. I think it can happen. I think it can happen. It was so good last night.
Starting point is 01:54:07 Now for me, buddy, I need seven overtimes in game six and then four overtimes. That win for Winnipeg was huge for me. Huge, right? Just beat him down, punch him down. I think that Winnipeg played their best game of the playoffs last night. Arena was madness. Hellebuck was great. He didn't really even have to be, but they were just
Starting point is 01:54:29 phenomenal. Ehlers looks like he's reached another level. They had the Jamie Ben, the Jamie Ben punched Shifely. And they had Dallas rattled. Now, can they go and win a road game, guys? Your whole season will change in my mind. You're not fraud. If they lose and they can't win one fucking road game, they're frauds. That's fraudulent. Jokes.
Starting point is 01:54:58 Biz, that is how you play a home game in the NHL when your back is against the wall. That's how your fans act. That's how your players act. You go out and you play a full 16 minutes. We don't need to make this about Toronto. Oh, no, I wasn't even thinking that. Jeez. I was just giving them sifted.
Starting point is 01:55:20 Just incredible. Like the atmosphere looked insane. The plays you could tell from shift one were ready to go, ready to run through a wall, do whatever. Like Chuck said, 3000 times, I wonder if Connor Hellebuck went into that locker room and was like, boys, jump on. Cause he was so good and they had to be,
Starting point is 01:55:39 cause Autinger has been amazing. The first goal goes off someone, you're like, oh my God, this, you know, that's the only way you're going to beat this guy. And then they end up, they stick with it, they stick with someone, you're like, oh my God, that's the only way you're gonna beat this guy. And then they end up, they stick with it, they stick with it, they find ways, they get under Dallas's skin, which they haven't really done yet this series.
Starting point is 01:55:52 And they played unbelievable for a full 60 minutes with their back against the wall. There's only been two games in these playoffs that Dallas hasn't scored a power play goal. Incredible home game, though, as you guys mentioned. Hellebuck looked like himself. He looked athletic, his reads were great. He was very active with his stick.
Starting point is 01:56:13 I don't know if you guys noticed that. On the first goal they scored, he was the one, it was a two on one at the net. Sandberg got beat by Rotten and he slid it down for a goal line play. I forget who the other guy was, but he tried to come out and tuck it around. Hellebuck pokes it away. They go back the other way and Schaefli gets that lucky bounce off the Planko goal.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Also for Winnipeg, they get those power plays, right? They get the five on three and then they're able to get that insurance. Nikolai Ehlers, who, so he came back in game six of last round, and obviously they needed him, right? They were dealing with injuries. They had Shifely out, they had him out, and then Morrissey because he'd been banged up last round. And looking at Ehlers' playoff numbers,
Starting point is 01:56:58 like this guy's leaving after the season's done, right? He's gonna become an unrestricted free agent, he's gonna sign a big ticket somewhere. I think he's made it pretty clear that he wants to be a first line winger and Kyle Conner ain't going anywhere because he's the guy there. He had only had four playoff goals in 38 playoff games coming into game six in the last round.
Starting point is 01:57:21 14 points, 14 points total 30 38 playoff games so since then I know he didn't score in game six the last round but he makes that play to keep it keep their season alive in game seven where he assisted on that tying goal in the dying seconds and then since then five goals in his last four games so he's all of a sudden to find his stride right these playoff stride So him coming to is a massive massive for the Winnipeg Jets along with everything else they got going But the it mainly comes down to Hellebuck and what his road performance is gonna look like But if I'm Dallas I'm very concerned at the fact that he looked like regular season Hellebuck
Starting point is 01:58:04 and it seems like maybe the pressure pressures coming off of them from the Playoff woes so to speak You gotta think dude that with what he's done in his career That he can show up in game at least give him a chance at least give them a chance Right, they don't even they don't even need them to completely steal a game. That's not even what they're asking for, Jets fans. Just don't suck in an early goal that's a wrist shot from the top of the circles
Starting point is 01:58:34 that we've seen, I don't know, on the road like six times this year. So if he could just show up and give them a chance based on how they just played, I think, buddy, if it goes seven, that's a complete coin flip. I mean, look at what happened against St. Louis. The game was over and they somehow pulled it out.
Starting point is 01:58:51 So Dallas, incredible team. I think that they're able to just totally, I mean, Marner's like, we gotta flush this down the toilet. No, no, no, no, no. Marner needs to say something. We're gonna flush you down the fucking toilet. Dallas can say we gotta flush that one down the toilet. Dallas can say we got to flush that one down the toilet That's the perfect example of using that little statement. We're flushing this one away. We didn't have our best. They were desperate
Starting point is 01:59:12 We're gonna be better Can Connor Hellebuck win this game though? That is the biggest question My biggest concern the narrative around him if he wins this game. Yeah, My biggest concern for Winnipeg is Tits McGee behind the bench. Oh, she's gonna be there. Well, she's one and oh in close out games this playoffs. And Blast Banger has been released from prison boys. I thought it was May 15th.
Starting point is 01:59:42 I think he got out yesterday. He got out yesterday. He got out yesterday. He's gonna be banging his ankle bracelet off the bench. Yes, that would be my main concern if I'm the Winnipeg Jets, if they got Tits McGee behind the bench and then Glassbanger in on the floor checking his seat. So I don't know what else they could do
Starting point is 02:00:02 to elevate their play, but they're gonna have to play like they did last game where they Shut them down. There was only you know about a dozen shots through two periods for the Dallas Stars so clamping it down putting on that chastity belt as far as defense is concerned hella buck showing up and neutralizing tits McGee and glass banger and we're going back to Winnipeg for seven if Winnipeg going to seven and bring them back there in Canada, that's the best thing that could happen to you
Starting point is 02:00:29 for the next round. That's the best thing. And for Winnipeg, oh yeah, for the Oilers, no doubt, but for Winnipeg, like, De Boer's gonna lose a game seven at some point. It's just the law of averages. So either he loses it this round, if Winnipeg can get a game six win on the road,
Starting point is 02:00:50 or when we go to seven with him, he's gonna, you can't win every game seven. Yes, people probably said that after he's four and oh, five and oh, six and oh, seven, he's nine and oh. But at some point, he will lose a game seven. Will it be this round, or will it be against the Oilers? I would love a game seven though. Just bunch of over times, bunch of big hits.
Starting point is 02:01:10 What did you think of the play where Ben suckered Shrifley? So if you look closely, they were going full Lesbo Scissor on the ice when they were down on the ground. They were beaver smacking. And I think that Jamie Ben thought that when Shifely was getting up and he extended his leg that he kicked him. Cause he mouthed the words when he got up and that's why he suckered him.
Starting point is 02:01:35 Do I think that Shifely did it intentionally? No, I have no idea. I wasn't on the bottom of that pile and I'm not inside of his brain. He got him right in the clit. You get him right in the fucking, right in the. Which for those nuts, interrupt you Biz. Right in the roast beef sandwich.
Starting point is 02:01:50 Biz, using your foot as a weapon in hockey and anytime like your foot's near someone is the biggest no-no. So like I could see why his wire is crossed, but go ahead, sorry. No, but did you feel that that's maybe why he snapped like that? I thought that was a good catch, but did you feel that that's maybe why he snapped like that?
Starting point is 02:02:05 I thought that was a good catch by you when you texted that because I didn't see it and then yes, I thought so. Well, Liam McHugh pointed it out and then we watched it in slow-mo and I'm like, yeah. And then I had a couple other people text me saying, I think that he thinks that he tried to kick him. Yeah, which he probably didn't, but he probably didn't mean to do it.
Starting point is 02:02:20 No, it looked like it was like a four inch extension of him scrambling, trying to get up. No, it looked like it was like a four inch extension of him scrambling trying to get up. So, you know, anything to get the wires crossed for Jamie Ben, that's not a guy you want to piss off the wrong way, he's kind of a psycho. But we'll see what they got in game six. But I got nothing much else for that series, boys. It's gonna be a great one.
Starting point is 02:02:41 Well, I kind of loved how Shifely, he went down, it was almost like he was gonna stay down, then his wires crossed, he got up, and then he was going insane on the bench, losing his mind, but I kind of like that. That's the passion, dude, that's the fire. We're not going down, this thing's going to six, we're gonna win on the road.
Starting point is 02:03:00 He was losing it. Well, he never goes down. Yeah. He never goes down. It's a pussy joke. He made a comment years ago that he doesn't like eating box. Scissoring, scissoring. All right, that wraps up this series.
Starting point is 02:03:17 We're live there. We got two series left. One will end tonight. And I think one stays alive Saturday. I think we're seeing a game seven, I really do. I don't think Jets fans are gonna love hearing me say that, but I think we're gonna get one game seven in the second round, and Florida gets it done at home tonight.
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Starting point is 02:05:21 God damn, what, I mean, everyone kind of go. Guys, talk back to Philly. God damn, what, I mean, everyone kind of saw it. Everyone could see it. God, he played for the Flyers, the way he played, the way that fan base wants their team to play. We need Rick Tauke. I think Bruins fans were holding out hope. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:05:41 I'm going back to Philly. I'm going with Danny Breyer. I'm going with Keith Jones. And we're going to find we're going to find what it takes to win a Stanley Cup here. Because, guys, 1975, that was a long time ago. That's only seven years after. What was the Leafs last one? This 67. Yeah, eight years.
Starting point is 02:05:59 Right. So Philly, this is a long time. This is a fan base whose head they they came close against Chicago in 2010, but no, no, no, we're going with Rick Tauket. We're going with the man who played here, knows what it takes to be successful here, and Biz, he got a big old bag of money. He got paid, and he deserved it. Jack Adams, two years removed.
Starting point is 02:06:21 Difficult year this year in Vancouver. Thought he balanced it and juggled it well though. Was very impressed with his exit press conference and talking about the PD and Miller situation and how he tried to manage it and what he saw from it. I know Quinn Hughes is going to miss him. That's why they had to resign the D coach, Adam Foote, to keep and continue to establish a very similar culture that Toc had. Obviously he will be missed there because he does have that experience as a head coach, but ultimately Philly is a few years away, right?
Starting point is 02:06:57 So they're starting this thing from the ground up with Jonesy and what better guy to have in there to help build a culture than Rick Tocquett. I mean, he won it as a player, won it twice as an assistant, and now he's trying to win it as a head coach. So he's been around winners his whole life. And I think it's a perfect fit to go back there, a place he had so much success as a player and, you know, helped establish a winning culture at that time. And he gets to go back there and assemble a staff in order to do so. Now, I don't think there's going to be pressure to make playoffs for the next two years there, I would imagine, as they continue to try to stockpile good talent that can help you win
Starting point is 02:07:34 in the NHL. They did get rid of some guys at the deadline and they do still have some guys there that you can build and work around, but they do have work to do. And I think that we can all agree that they're probably two, three years away from making playoffs. So for him to go there and leave Vancouver, it's kind of nice, right? Not only are you getting this bag, but there's not this immense amount of pressure to all of a sudden step in and make playoffs and win a Stanley Cup, where he will have a little bit of rope here. And I would imagine that that fires fans
Starting point is 02:08:06 will probably be lenient for two years until they do finally enter playoff aspiration. So congrats to him, an enormous bag well-deserved. And I really look forward to see Philly back in the mix, man. Cause when we went there a couple of years ago, it was pretty depressing watching the game. I don't know if you were with us that trip with it was me G I think Dale was there and the building was half empty and it wasn't that Flyers fan base and culture that we have come to grown and know
Starting point is 02:08:37 like during the Mike Richards playoff era where they were going against the Pittsburgh Penguins and it was sold out and they had fucking Crosby dolls hanging by a fucking noose and you know, big fucking baby written on the big cardboard cutouts. Like it was a goddamn WWE match. So we need that fucking the hateful flyers fan back in the building rooting against opposing players and, and really scaring the fucking shit out of them when they walk out of that tunnel.
Starting point is 02:09:07 Well said. And talks the guy to do that. He did it his whole career playing. I don't know if they have many prospects. I don't know. Well, hey, they got to get going here. And they got money to spend and free agency. They're going to be going after some guys apparently.
Starting point is 02:09:22 And I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of guys out there come for agency that would love to pull on that Flyers jersey. I mean, it's a fucking, you know, it's a traditional franchise. It's got tons of tradition there. And they got the sixth overall pick, is G's letting us know. So I got nothing left on that.
Starting point is 02:09:42 You guys done? No, congrats to talk. Well deserved. You mentioned Adam Fo No, congrats to Tom. Well deserved. You mentioned Adam Foote became the head coach in Vancouver. There was a clip that went a little viral after the hiring where I think he was talking to UBiz actually where Quinn Hughes says he's the best coach I've ever had. Yeah, I asked him the question.
Starting point is 02:09:59 So I get that, right? I mean, good job, Biz. Great journalist. First good one I've ever asked. Yep. Same way we talk about talk, like Adam Foote, one of the meanest, hardest defensemen of his generation, right? Like, he knows what it takes to win a Stanley Cup. He knows how you have to play when you get to that level. Vancouver needed some sort of stability. Now, how can he approach getting Elias Pedersen
Starting point is 02:10:26 to become the player that he was when that contract was signed? If I were to take the job the way he did, that's my first thing. I don't know if you're flying over to see him, I don't know if it's on the phone or Zoom. You have to get to the bottom of what's been going on with his game, right?
Starting point is 02:10:41 Because without him, I don't see how Vancouver becomes a really good team again. If he can be the guy that everyone saw those first few years, this could turn around a lot quicker, right? You got a highly paid, highly skilled player. If that guy isn't gonna play like he needs to play to become good, like he did when you were good,
Starting point is 02:11:00 then you're done. So. Chrome of the Pacific. Add him. He calls him, he's like, if you don't start playing, buddy, you're fucking going into the ocean. We're gonna go whale watching, and then I'm gonna throw you overboard,
Starting point is 02:11:11 and you're gonna get fucking gobbled up by one. I don't know, Jim Rutherford, quote machine. Quote machine, love him. Let him get interviewed once a week. Can we interview him, and just get quote after quote after quote, I don't know. He did mention bringing over the Hughes' brothers
Starting point is 02:11:30 to have Quinn happy. I think there was a possible tampering charge within that. I don't know if anything came of that. But Adam Foote, no wonder he's a head coach in the NHL is basically what I'm trying to say here. So congrats to him. He was Jacob Slaven before Jacob Slaven. Yeah, little meaner, little meaner I think. That's basically what I'm trying to say here. So congrats to him. He was Jacob Slaven before Jacob Slaven. Yeah, little meaner, little meaner I think.
Starting point is 02:11:49 That's true. Yeah, not as good of a skater but meaner. But back then you could cross check a guy in the spleen and you wouldn't even get called for it. So he didn't take many penalties either. What Quinn Hughes said about him too, which I really liked is he said, he's a guy that you would want your kids to be coached by too. He's not there screaming in your face, you know, belittling you. He's teaching you the game. He's wanting you to get better.
Starting point is 02:12:11 He's trying to help you get to that next level, which I think that makes a lot of sense for these guys that played, especially a guy like him who played at the highest level, won at the highest level. He wants these guys to get there and to taste that and you can tell when you know one of the best defensemen in the league is saying stuff like that about you that's gonna make him feel good. After 17 NHL seasons Sam We have a little breaking news here for you Whit. Chuck is at the bar? Chuck Knobloch says Echol says, Chuck Knoblock. Chuck Knoblock. Knoblock says, Echolme won't be back for games one or two, but he's optimistic he'll be back in the third round here.
Starting point is 02:12:53 Wow. Get that rope pill in you. You got a hockey boner, don't you? I don't need it. I don't need it. I'm bricked up because Echolme might be back. All night. Echolme's coming back. You think I need an RO Sparks? You think I need thaticked up. Oh, natural. Because Echol's coming back. All night. Echol's coming back? You think I need an RO Sparks?
Starting point is 02:13:07 You think I need that? Whoa. Honey, show's almost over. Echol's coming back. You could just do it during an ad read. Start stretching. Put this jersey on. He got his jersey with a dart board on the back.
Starting point is 02:13:24 That's amazing news, but I'm excited. I am excited to hear that. But gags, Sam Gagne, guys. What a career. Couple clicks. I mean, dude, this guy is obsessed with hockey. No surprise. I believe he's already been hired as the director of player development with the senators.
Starting point is 02:13:46 Is that? Oh, wow. Yeah, team's director of player development, which this kid is so skilled. This kid, I'm talking to him. God, Gags is, what is he, 35 years old now, playing the NHL at 18. Oilers, Coyotes, Flyers, Blue Jackets, Canucks, back to the Oilers, Red Wings, Jets, back to the Oilers, and what's cool is, Gags, Gags came in as a very high pick.
Starting point is 02:14:12 He was gonna be an offensive player. He realized he had to change things. He had to change his game a little bit as his career went on, and he did, to play that long on that many different teams, to be able to change the way that you go about playing the game and be more responsible defensively and realize you're not gonna be first power play guy.
Starting point is 02:14:30 I loved playing with him, such a good dude in the locker room. Keith, you played with him as well, right? Yeah, loved him. Where'd you play with him? In Phoenix. He was like the new age skill that we see now from pretty much everybody, like his backhand toe drag His his vision, but yeah, he was an amazing player
Starting point is 02:14:50 But what and you said it earlier to his love for the game like that guy Dude eight It's lucky hockey. He absolutely loved it It was like I mean when you see guys who love it like that It's you know, it's inspiring to everybody else And he brought that to every team that he was on. He's always at the rink early, whether he's just taping sticks or looking at other guys' sticks.
Starting point is 02:15:11 So just a pleasure to be around. Obviously everyone remembers when he was the first, second and third star of that one game, which was pretty insane. What do you have, eight points? What'd you have, nine points? Eight points? That's an unbelievable career for Biz,
Starting point is 02:15:26 but yeah, he did it in one game. But yeah, unreal guy, great family guy too. I think he's got like, dude, he texted me last night. He knows Oldie well, cause they have him and him and Nash have cottages like two minutes down the road from each other up in, I don't even wanna say where it is, but they have cottages together and he sees oldie all the time he's like yeah first
Starting point is 02:15:47 time I ever met him he was in a he was in a bikini with his beanbag hanging out and just like introduced like it was normal guys speaking of oldie he's uh he's actually live on the beach right now he wanted to come check in and say Let's go. Let's go. Let's go, Yance. You're hotter than the AC. Come out and play with me, Yance. Let's go. Don't be scared of the heat. Let's go, Biz.
Starting point is 02:16:16 Wait, morning, baby. Let's go. Oldie, Oldie. Who's drunk, him or Chuck? Hey, these guys are saying that you're going to be a turncoat. Next thing you know, you're going gonna have a panthers jersey on tell me They're full of shit, but he kicked rocks, buddy. Just like this go pound sand go pound sand, buddy Look, oh It's a garbage out of here, dude
Starting point is 02:16:35 Ban wagon or this get out of there. Hey get in the elbow room. What's your prediction for tonight oldie? I'm bumping over to the elbow room for two buds solid for two buds. I'm going to need you there and warm up. I'm going to need you with the Leafs and seven sign right behind Bob. And I need your pocket pussy staring them right in the face. Let's go. Let's fucking call. We see.
Starting point is 02:17:00 Can we see the pocket pussy? Yeah. Six pack. It's a who said a six dude. I don't know. I don't know if we want to. Can we see the pocket pussy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can we see the six pack? Who said a six, dude? I don't know if we want to do this right now. Oldie. Yeah, I know you never know what you're going to get.
Starting point is 02:17:11 Oldie. No, like, we might get a hog shot. Oh my god. Oldie. Bring it home, Oldie. Oldie. Oldie, I got one question for you. Talk to me.
Starting point is 02:17:21 Did Biz fly you first class? I don't know what happened there. That's a no. Does he remember? I was lost. I was what I was. I was a horseshoe hand grenade. One looking close right out from the window. I was right behind the first class. But you know what? That's what I live for. Stepping up every day. I don't want to be first class. I don't want that shit, dude. We're blue collar baby. I'm a bumper. I'm a grinder, bro. Send me in the cargo ship underneath, dude. That's what I'm saying, bro. You name the place?
Starting point is 02:17:52 Name the place. The kid's going to show up. It doesn't matter how you get there. It's about being here. It's about the buds. The hell is this flying over? We're bumping. We're grinding.
Starting point is 02:18:04 The buds is coming out crazy tonight But if you tell me not getting fired up pounded that knee lander behind them, dude Oh, no, is that the lander on the beach beside you? Yes. Hey, we need you tonight. Hey, we need you hard Stop on the pedal if they can't win with this guy in attendance, but that's what I think got it. Just fold If they can't win with this guy in attendance, they gotta just fold. I'll give up my fandom if they don't win with this guy in attendance. I'm calling security now. You call them, you're gonna need them. Call up backup too.
Starting point is 02:18:33 Maybe call Walt Disney World to bring their security guards too. Let's go, dude. Let's go, Lees. I need all boys buzzing listening. If you guys are listening, I need you out there. Look, we got a guy over here. This guy's fired up. Let's go lease. I need all boys buzz and listen if you guys are listening. I need you out there look We got a guy over this guy's fire Who's that Kane that Patrick Kane To losers just hanging out on the beach fucking go, let's fucking go. We go. We go. What's this prediction?
Starting point is 02:19:07 Owen Barkley fiction Well score wise hand the basket score. I think it's a routing five one fellas Keith whoa, so ours he said he said stole ours well he might be a skated Truly we don't do truly Some pink Whitney at the elbow he's used to the part of my kid This guy's what's your name? With the boys live say what up to spin chicklets. What's up, Chicklets? What are you rooting for tonight?
Starting point is 02:19:46 What are you rooting for tonight? Oh, Panthers all the way. Yeah. Tyler, that shave job. Can we talk about that shave job of the belly up into the middle of the tits, but then you keep some hair on the nipples? You love it.
Starting point is 02:19:59 Battery ran out. Let's go. Oldie, thanks for popping by. I love it. That's what we needed. That's the way I'm going to the beach right now. I'm going to go punch his head in. They might win tonight. They really might. Why do you think I sent them there in my lucky shirt? They got no chance. This one's over. We're going back to Toronto.
Starting point is 02:20:13 Wait, I sent oldie to Wellen to mush this guy. Now he's latched on. He's latched on. He thinks he's a part of it. They're done, son. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm sent Oldie to Welland to mush this guy.
Starting point is 02:20:25 Now he's latched on. He's latched on. He thinks he's a part of it. They're done, son. They're done, son. There's also a chance, a very legit chance, he's not let in to the arena tonight. I mean, puck drops in, what, seven hours?
Starting point is 02:20:41 Like, he's going to the elbow room right now. If he even makes it to the game, I think you got a chance. But there's a quality shot that he might not be actually allowed into the building. Hey, he better be allowed in because he's got a birthday present for Caesar, the guy who we've been going at it with online from Florida. So a little bit of a peace treaty before the game,
Starting point is 02:21:02 and then it's down to business. I got nothing left to say, boys. Oldie took the words out of my mouth, a little rah rah before we end this. Let's go Leafs, baby. Let's go. I will be back at, gonna go do my same thing, pregame meal at Houston, gonna go there right now.
Starting point is 02:21:18 1230 reservation, perfect time. So, Unreal Show, boys, can't wait for tonight. Hey, two game sixes tonight. Oh No shit, who's the other one the Celtics and the Knicks? Oh, okay. No shit. All right. Well good to know we love you guys Thank you so much. Thank you boys. Yep. Thank you to you too. Congrats to the Oilers Congrats to the Canes We'll see what happens tonight. We'll see what happens tomorrow night. We're back next week on Tuesdays back to once a week Thank you for support what a playoffs. It's been thank you to oldie. Thank you to Chuck who's Completely crippled right now getting a massage, but we love you all
Starting point is 02:21:55 Have a great weekend everyone have a great I don't know any other way Even if I could go away I don't know any other way This feeling is so hard to wear I don't know any other way Even if I could go away I don't know any other way This feeling is so hard to break
Starting point is 02:22:40 I'll get you some love

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