Spittin Chiclets - Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 567: Featuring Kevin Bieksa & Liam McHugh

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

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Hey, spittin' Chicklets listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is basketball sports. Our white whale, Sidney Crosby! Shave his head! Shave his head! Shave his head! Ryan Whitney, Paul Missouden, R.A., Mike Grinelli, Spit and Chicklets. What is up, folks? Welcome to the Casa de Yendo, and episode 567 of the Spit and Chicklets podcast.

We're live in Florida. I am down in the dumps. The city of Edmonton's down in the dumps were nervous were scared But we're flushing it down the toilet But you know what we're not flushing down the toilet is pink Whitney pink Whitney Vodka. I had Florida Panthers fans yelling at me I'm not drinking your vodka you bitch. I said hey, hey, hey, let's keep this civil What did my vodka do to you? And I saw a lot of it being drunk down at the beach at Fort Lauderdale. And we had a little bit before the game and everyone I hope enjoys it right here in Yans's

house. We get the bottle right here. We got new bottles too, even different, better. Or is this the new one? I'm not exactly sure. No, I think this kid's cereal. Exactly. That's why they're so good at lacrosse.

So shout out pink Whitney Take your shot with pink Whitney go down. It's summertime. It's hot wherever you are Go have some pink Whitney on ice and enjoy it and get ready for game four of the Stanley Cup final coming up Thursday guys We got to pump the stream don't pump the stream pump the stream. I don't everyone's watching I think so just maybe tell people that that your friends with to maybe put on our stream guys Holy shit. What a crazy run so far. We haven't chatted since the since the finals began Personally, it would have been a lot nicer had we chatted after game one where I was flying high I thought we might sweep them at that point

Now it seems like a little bit of a panic time biz you were in Edmonton You got to experience what I think are the two greatest games to ever start a Stanley Cup final. Maybe Recency Bias, but I just don't remember being that into hockey. Like those games in Edmonton were incredible. And then obviously game three, the Panthers roll. We'll get into it all, but talk to us about the vibe in Edmonton. What you thought going into the series? What you've thought so far and we can kind of figure it out from there. Well, game two was the greatest hockey game I've ever seen. No doubt.

Like just like how loud it was. It was and the fact that they'd won game one, right? So the fans were so much more amped up than game one thinking they could take a two-oh series lead, right? I was thinking that as well But just like you know from the moment that like they start kind of like let's go And then they start playing the tune The Metallica tune and then they open up the doors to the dressing room They start coming out and then it gets ramped up even louder and all of a sudden they're at like 110 115 decimals of noise and then the minute they finally come out

you can see them live and Skinner touches the ice and the Goldhorn take a look on WWE it's unreal it's just the energy the fandom and not to take away from what Florida's created down here because it was a it was a ruckus in there last night a little bit like different in the way they do it like they're very in your face oh they're scum and they're incredible team incredible team fans great fans scum scum and all I thought it was pretty funny game one there was two Florida Panthers fans I believe they got the first goal on game one right because they took a no no no no game one we Leon score okay Leon scored then they scored three straight right there they

took a three one lead yes yes they have three one so as soon as they score the first goal we were in the corner like on like near the concourse and there was these two Panthers fans like right on the glass by Skinner and they score and these guys are standing up and they were just going all the emits that they turn around and be like fuck you you want some of this fuck you one on ninety thousand for sure neck tattoos like Florida people it reminded me of Jesus the bowler in the big Lebowski I'm gonna fuck you up man and it's kind of how they look too. So I thought that was pretty funny, but just going back to the atmosphere and, you know,

when they would score and obviously when Leon put in that OT winter, like it just, it's, I described it as biblical, like it's the heart of the hockey world. And you know, as much as you want to say Montreal and Toronto or the Meccas, like the drunkest buffoonery you've ever seen. They get crippled. And typically arenas, they cut off the booze about halfway in the third period.

Yes. They were serving beer until Leon scored that goal. There was. Are they serving beer until in double overtime game two? Yeah. I'm not condoning this at all, but my buddy Jeff was sitting next to someone who's like, oh, I think I'm going to leave here with a minute left Jeff, my buddy Jeff was sitting next to someone who's like, oh, I think I'm gonna like leave here

like with a minute left before Cory Perry tied it up in game two. And he's like, yeah, I'm gonna beat the rush. I think I'm gonna take off now. And then Cory Perry buried it. And this guy proceeded to crush five beers in overtime. So these guys are like, they're on a different level, the drunken buffoonery, but it was just,

it was an incredible experience. And the biggest thing about it though It was just the gameplay. I couldn't take my eyes away every single shift like, you know There was a chance to score there was good defensive plays being made. There was a big save There was a huge hit like game one There was 51 hits aside like these guys were trying to kill each other which At the time I was like, wow, I'm like, maybe the Oilers can actually hang with these guys physically, but I think you see it

maybe a little bit now where they're kind of reaching, where they're almost like playing into Florida's hand. Well, that's game, the game was out of hand when they got like that. And at some point you're like, all right, if we're gonna get pounded, let's try to get, let's try to get some flesh, right? Like, let's try to get these guys. Now, Keith, you get these guys now Keith you said after game one you're like oh that's fine I

figured that will win in five like you you just figured no problem they'd come back win game two because after game one I'm like holy shit now looking back I guess my confidence level probably was a little too high based on like they were down 3-1. I believe that Maurice going into that game was 31-0 when leading after the second period. First or second. Yeah, first or second, which is crazy. So you're telling me when they led after either period

or they had to be leading after both? I think either or if they were, someone checked that, but yeah, a crazy stat. That's why I wasn't too worried because you know me and biz were just talking about it it's like Edmonton almost played their best perfect game in Florida obviously they scored some goals and found ways to score goals but they didn't play unreal like barky wasn't barky and it wasn't their best and then we saw their best last night and it's like but game three that's why everyone's like oh my god is gonna be a sweep Edmonton's gonna roll them

But I didn't see that at all and and Bob to Bob wasn't him. Well, yeah Bob now that's the disaster When we were playing I remember the ice being a little bit more of the conversation like guys would bitch I feel like nowadays like people don't really complain. You don't really hear like in the post at everywhere That's why. But, well, I feel like if it's good anywhere, it would be in Edmonton. Like they have really good ice and I felt like Edmonton was able to move the puck and advance it and it played more into their hand. And after the second game, that was one of the last things Wayne said before we signed off on the broadcast was my concern for Edmonton is how they're going

to have to change up their style of play based on the fact they're going to South Florida. It's going to be a muck fast. We know that Florida likes to flick pucks in the neutral zone. And all of a sudden you get the grenade. You don't know where it's going, including how good they are in dumpings on the four check. So I really felt that that even when McDavid sometimes was controlling the puck, you know, sometimes he loses it.

And it's like, ah, I felt like he, those guys couldn't handle the puck as well as they did in the first two games. And once again, I feel like it's really playing into Florida's hand based on how they can play really any way, specifically the physical nature of their game. And you saw that kind of take over in game two, I think they hit them a 60 to 40, right? So that's when you kind of say, Oh, okay. Now they're ramping it up. They're investing a little bit more. And, um, you know, given the Edmonton in my opinion is a little bit more banged up, I think that it's going to continue to be more and more obvious that physical

play. And you remember, I think it was last year or either the year before Maurice said to me, he was like, wear them down now. Cause they're going to feel it in game seven. Like this team's built to go seven. They don't care. Like losing that first game, a lot of teams, I think we'd be like, Oh boy, we're in one, especially when you're playing against McDavid and Leon, but

they're just like, this has to go seven. We'll go seven. We're fine with it. We dealt with a three old lead last year. I had to go to game seven. I just don't think there's really any worry in that locker room. Oh yeah. They're battle tested, man.

They're just, they, they don't get rattled. They really don't. Somebody said they saw Rodriguez, because that JW has an awesome gym. Have you ever been to that gym at the JW Marriott? No. It's like- You get injured in there?

He was fucking a foam roller, much like I do, and I think somebody went up, and they, how do you feel? And he goes, we're fine. We're fine. We're good. Yeah, they don't, I mean, they're down 2-0 in the second round to Toronto. Now to game one what was amazing for oilers fans myself

It's like alright last year the finals Incredible comeback, but you're down 3o Leon never scored boom he gets that first goal It's like oh my god like that right there like alright boom Leon didn't get one last year. We're up one nothing then Sam Bennett at this point it's it's I think he might be the best player in hockey right now like I don't now we'll talk about the first goal where he he gets it he falls into the goalie right like he ends up like doing his whole oh shoot to do that accidental on purpose where if it was anyone else, you look at the replay, you're like,

oh no, he kinda got tripped up. But because it's always him, I'm convinced he's just the master at making it look like a complete accident. So he gets credit for that first one. Then who scored, then they went up two one in that game. Brad Marshon, the power play. Marshon, yes, the power play. And Nate Schmidt, who didn't slow down in game three either

He looks like Bobby or I do this is what happened to Florida Seth Jones people Blackhawks fans Oh, he stinks now. I don't know. They were fucking losers online. I think your team stinks because now I'm watching this guy He's flying around. He scored an incredible goal in game two, but Nate Schmidt passed over Marshawn gets one So it's like, alright Well, here comes the rat king. We're down to one now at home We had the lead Marshawn's buzzing around and then Bennett gets the third now. That's where I was like Oh, I don't I don't what are they gonna do against this team now that comeback and that goal I think Arvind said scored an enormous goal to make it 3-2 in game one

Okay, big time. And then McDavid has his moment. In that game, he's wheeling around the net. What was incredible about that is Gretzky and the intermission, he's like, they're taking away the middle. Connor's going to have to go around the net or he's going to have to, I think, stop up and pull up and hit the late guy. Well, what does he do?

Sure as shit, Gretzky, just knowing the game better than anyone. McDavid wheels behind the net, finds Ekholm tie game, and we're going to OT. Now, OT game one, I think we saw a stat that the team who wins that game, it's like 80% wins the series, right? Something around there. I don't know if you guys looked at it.

It was right around 80%. I'm like, oh. I think it's 77% of teams who win game one. Yeah, so we go to, oh, this is must win. Can't go down to these guys again. Can't go down. These guys get the W. Now here's, here's, here's the problem. Okay. Florida didn't get rattled at all before game two. They really didn't. And then Edmonton kind of comes into the game. I think excitement, I think we can take this two O series lead, but Brad Marshawn

guys, I, I Bruins fans are policy on this team are probably. How is he on this team? How is he on this team? How did they let this happen? How did the league allow this to happen? The Leafs should be in the Stanley Cup Finals if it wasn't for Brad Marshawn. Yeah, true, for a 30 second overall pick. Yeah, and at the time it was a second round.

I mean, they got lucky it's gonna be. So, Brad Marshawn in game two. Now, earlier in the year He kind of struggled in Boston one they stink two he had three surgeries, right? So you have to figure he's gonna figure it out. I didn't I didn't know he'd be this dominant I didn't see this coming I mean he's so dominant enough to the point where last night game three they started that power play unit every time I think it's Bennett Marshawn is Lundell that unit. It's their second unit, I would think.

Schmidt. Schmidt up top. Yeah, Schmidt up top. And I think he's just like, I got to ride Marshawn right now. And obviously Bennett's on that unit too. So that guy in game two, that was a performance for the ages. It also gives those other guys a little bit of rest to maybe focus more on their matchups with Dreisle and McDavid, right? Yes. I feel like the way they're distributing ice right now for Maurice's sake,

he's just doing a master class job. I would imagine that you saw his in-game interview with Jackie Redmond. He must be driving you up the wall at this point, Witty. Yeah, he's just all he owns everyone. I mean, he's a comedian. He's cracking jokes on the bench. Like I saw last night game three, we get they get that too many men on the ice penalty, which like Can't happen in the just horrible like a puck over the glass

But I'm too many on the ice right as the penalty was called It was commercial and pangers on the bench interview and knob block. I'm like, okay must be so no meanwhile Maurice gets interviewed He's just might as well put his arm around Jackie. Just he's cracking jokes He's just the life of the party. This fucking guy You can't beat this guy right now All he does is win and just hold press conference comedy routines and it's driving me crazy It's driving. I think it's driving everyone crazy not just you know, just Albert But but if you know if you and Alberta Alberta doesn't have to see the TNT parts the sports that do the coaches

Interviews midgame the way TNT. I don't know if they do that. I think they have cable Direct flights from major cities they might not have cable. Oh, yeah and get into Ed I mean so Yeah, right now. Oh, can we talk about Marsha a little bit? So I wanted before I forget that goal that he scored in overtime, like if you watch it, he's going towards the wall for a chip out and a lot of people would just continue doing that. He makes a subtle little turn back. Like 90% of guys are just hoping for a glass and out there, he made such a smart play just

coming back to the middle of the ice and then I forget who passed. Lundell. He got two primary assists on him. Baby pass right up the middle and then break away. You dished it to him on the shorthanded goal as well? Yeah, I think Lundell got both primary assists where I was just gonna say like. He's a horse.

Yeah, like so Lundell and Listerine are essentially mini Barkovs, right? Like they follow every step that he does and like whatever he's eating, he's doing, whatever he's training, they're doing it. Yeah, I think they're all sleeping in the same. But what a guy to learn from, right? Like you're going to learn the correct way to play hockey, the 200 foot game.

And, and Barkey is that type of guy that he's showing them the right way. Like he's a lead by example guy and, uh, and it's wearing off on them. And I, I'm telling you in five years, like you're going to look back and be like, how good are these kids? Like they're their studs and they're gonna be for a while. Well I had forgot I'm like I knew they drafted London how did they get Luster Ryan in right oh it was the Trocheck trade no for so I mean God like Trocheck was great down here I'm great in Carol it was he went to Carolina first right but they got this kid I mean he, he's, he looks 6'3", he's just long-rangey.

That line is just dominant. Now, quickly, like, I will say, the first period of game two, you say the greatest hockey game you've ever witnessed, definitely the best first period of all time. I mean, that, we got to see another McDavid moment. That play, and that dish, and I believe Ekblad was asked about it after and he's like, yeah, McJesus. Like almost like, what am I going to, like first he embarrassed Barkov and just cut back on him where Barkov looked like me when I was playing. And then like Ekblad goes flying him. He ends up, I think he was on his face by the time. And then McDavid, as he's curling it, which the puck was rolling as he backhand toe drags it,

in one motion just slides it under Lundell's triangle to Leon, that was to go up three two, first period ends. I'm like, this is the greatest hockey team I've ever witnessed. I think I might've tweeted it. I think this is the best hockey team I've ever seen. But Brad fucking Marshawn, guys. Brad Marshawn.

Like, as you said, how is he on Florida? How are we watching this guy over and over? And this isn't even including him starting off game three with a goal. So I just don't understand how he's still this good. And I could say the same for Corey Perry, who was the best Oilers player in game three when we had nothing. What a pathetic, pathetic effort. Disgusting. But Brad Marshawn, I can't keep watching him in Palma. Palmar is do this. And last night night the fans are screaming Hey, fuck you. Wait, bitch

Fuck you. I'm like I can't be in this building anymore I come to this building and we just get worked over and over of course I wasn't even at game six when we extended the seat or was it game five. We extended the series I've never seen them do shit here. I just see them get worked in these like a rush back and watching Marshawn. And he's just, he's like perfect at what he does. And somehow he hasn't slowed down. So the first period of that game and game too, he was like sticking

everybody in the balls, creating straw scrums going after Arvidsson. So like he's being the rat, the rat king as well as putting the puck in the back of the net and then a stat too. So, um, I think this is his third Stanley cup final. This might've been. They played again. They won it against his fourth. This is fourth. Okay. So he won against Vancouver played against Chicago lost against St. Louis. Okay. Wow. So I think he's got 11 Stanley Cup finals goals in

Nine games, right? So he had a couple games. We got two goals. They've won eight of the nine games So he is just like a fucking when he scores they win. He's a winner. He's a fucking winner besides game He did did he score game one? He scored game one. He scored every every He scored so he scored every game. How many goals has Bennett have? What does Bennett have four now? So Bennett I believe has four in this series and Bennett has an NHL record 12 goals Yeah, so 12 boys have 14 goals in playoffs 12 of which on the road now We talked about it in the box last night. you seem to still think it would be a bad contract I think this guy's getting 10 million all under percent I think that four or five teams would offer him 10 million

because I okay okay people keep okay your argument is what the 50-point thing right my argument is that this actually makes it seem like I'm not in awe of how good this guy is Specifically in the playoffs like a true gamer Stanley Cup champion the perfect player for playoffs Ten million a year when you what is his career high 50 points? I know it's a different game in the playoffs I think on this team. It's a lot easier for him to be this dominant like stick them on another team I don't know if he doesn't have this supporting cast. Is he the same type player? Like when he has to completely carry your team offensively, not completely, but wherever he goes, it's not going to be like, oh, there's Marshawn,

there's Barkov, there's Reinhardt, there's Varhagi. Like he's able to kind of sneak around. If you give him 10 million, he's one of your top three players. and then I just don't know if you wanna pay that guy that much. 10 million dollars, dude, that's a lot of dough. I mean, that's more than what, every player besides Barkov? On Florida, yeah. So I wouldn't understand how he wouldn't stay here.

How would you not stay in Florida? They would give him what, eight times eight, I would assume, right? I would say that they could probably afford to give them seven and a half, eight. Okay, so even if they, all right, so say they give them eight times seven and a half, all right? You're a little, what, 60 million? That would be 60 million?

Okay, so you're gonna go somewhere and you're gonna get seven years times 10, you're saying, 70, right? Well, like, you're telling me you'd be willing to leave this this dominance in this team and what you where you fit in on this team for an extra what eight million bob I don't get that I've always said this I've always said that that's also why the the state tax conversation comes into play a great moment last night oh I Harry just nose off even your son burn he still didn didn't care. He's bit it off Oh, he was fucking he was ready to answer that one. Did you tell him you were gonna ask him that no

I think he kind of figured he knew I was gonna ask that what are you looking at? Oh Bennett's yes So Jimmy Bennett's made 30 minutes now. Let's go back to Bennett Bennett game three Maybe one of the best shifts it kind of reminded me remember or Brooks or pick the shift They get through had a the shift moment now Richard Richards Richard I said I said you know I think they both did yeah, I think you're a score I met I think it was right. Yeah, but but he murders pod Colson just center Right the perfect body check then he goes and hammers. I think Klingberg, who it might have came to on the wall, I don't know who the righty was on the wall,

and then just boom, for some reason, Pod Colson, who, I mean, he looked brutal in game three. All the depth oilers players aren't around. Where'd you guys go? We need you. This is how we rolled through the West. We need you. Pod Colson gets his head taken off

by the sociopath Bennett, and then he hits somebody else. pod calls and gets the puck probably concussed tries going D to D like buddy You're a fourth liner ship it in you're down 3-1. You're on your offensive blue line. You got no help chip it in the court No, he tries going D to D loose to Ryan and picks it off Bennett gets it. I'm sitting next to murals He's like goal He wasn't at the red line and I'm like I know. I didn't even say anything. I'm like this is going in. How about that speed burst dude by Bennett?

Has he always been this fast? 10 million. Yeah. Yeah, he can get it going. He can fly when he needs to but usually he's flying around when he's going to hit people, not for breakaways like that but you're right, he'd put it on a different level. How about who passed it to him?

Loose to Ryan. Yeah. Loose to Ryan. Just like, Oh yeah, there you go. Ben, it was probably barking at him. So the reason I give him 10, I would give him 10 million. And I agree with you with like maybe regular season, he's not going to stand out and make these flashy plays.

And like, I mean, let's go to Marner as the comparison is probably going to make 12, 13 million, right? He's going to get you to a hundred points and pretty much guarantee that your team is going to make playoffs. Yeah. But when you get there, man, like we all know it playoffs is a different beast. Like making plays under pressure, winning puck battles. Like we, you watch with your eyes, you, you know, you You know who's more valuable when it comes crunch time.

I know. So if you get it, there's rumblings that he might sign in St. Louis, there's rumblings that LA's trying to go after him, obviously Toronto would pay him 10 million to the fucking blue in the face. To me it's like, oh, Marner 13 million on the right side, or would I rather have a second center like Sam Bennett behind Matthews where at 10 million, 11 million for him,

I don't see that as a problem. I see that as like, okay, now we got a guy who could take the focus off of Austin Matthews as a secondary option. So if, let's say a Barkov shutting down Austin Matthews, at least you have a guy like Sam Bennett where if you have competent enough wingers Like a William Nylander to play with I mean like let's be real I don't think like I don't think Kachuk's been at his best. No, that's the scariest part. I didn't notice them

That's what I'm saying. So he's playing with Kachuk and who's on the right side. I'm drawing a blank here. Um For that line. No over Hheggie got bumped up. I think Erod actually got bumped down to the second line for the last two games on the left side and I think Kachuk was playing the right side there. So like it's not like he's playing with these all-world type players and what he's doing. He can drive the line. He's essentially driving the line. So that's where it's like, okay, oh he's never got over 50 points.

We got Jay Fresh with the charts out here, like oh that'll be an overpayment where it's like, bro are you watching the fucking games? When it's Stanley Cup playoffs and there's violence involved and there's intimidation involved and exactly the type of hockey you saw last night, that's what you're gonna have to go through to win a Stanley Cup.

Every team is gonna have to go through these. So, regular season-wise, yeah. You know what, maybe he's a six, seven million dollar player. He's like a barbership type player. But we've seen it the last two years now. And yeah, people are always playing behind bar. I don't give a fuck. He still has to go against Dry Cytles line.

He still either has to go against Dry Cytles or McDavid and he's doing what he's doing now in the Stanley Cup playoffs He's a ten million dollar player. I'm sick and fucking tired of paying these guys based on the fucking charts ass fucking Carolina How's that's going? Ask the Toronto Maple Leafs how that's going in charts It's you're paid literally on regular season stats like that is how you get a contract now. I Buddy I agree with you. I'm just wondering, and I'm a bitter Oilers fan right now, like, would he be doing this on another team? I don't, I don't know. He was, although he was called playoff Sam Bennett on the flames. So obviously it's always been in his DNA to be able to be that much better in the playoffs. He's, I, I'm, I'm just,

I'm so sick of him too. I can't stand watching these guys be this good They're bullies and they're just incredible hockey players I just am like fuck man Would he be doing this if he was on the Leafs this year? Like if you now if you switched him in Tavares this season like how much worse off is Florida how much better is Toronto? I think so so so look look at JT's regular season and then compare it to the to the series against Florida Yes, so the 11 million bucks he played down here He'd turn into a Sam Bennett somehow like they wouldn't think the guys come down

Okay, so that brings up a conversation from last night about the Panthers like I watched Kulikov who like army was mentioning He was in Pittsburgh great skater. Yeah, but like, you know like solid player He all of a sudden on this Panthers team, this particular team the last few years, he's a prick out there. You turn into a complete asshole. Look at Ekblad now. I don't ever remember Ekblad being this much of a menace. He's definitely playing the best hockey I've ever seen him play.

He's just dominant out there. You saw the hit against McDavid in game three, which people are like, he injured McDavid, he went down the runway. I think it was just equipment. If you watch that hit, what part of it could he have been injured on that? His tailbone?

It was like a hip point. Yeah, but I think he was completely fine. But Ekblad, he's a menace. Kulakov's a menace. You got Mikhailov, what did Army call him? Just an enormous like tarantula. He's just like Okay, it's just the whole team is is so in your face And last night was the perfect example of them coming home and them just beating the shit out of the oilers now getting into the oilers

Effort and I talked about I gotta say one thing about Sam Bennett. Sorry alone A lot of people like a lot of people give Matthew Kachuk the credit of like changing the culture down here, which I 100% agree with, but Sam Bennett was, he was here a year before that and they played together in Calgary, but remember when Benny came here, we played Tampa in the first round, it was like one of the best series ever. It was a gong show. And he got thrown out of one of the games and got a suspension and

pretty much that's kind of, we were missed him so much, but he kind of changed the way that Florida kind of played with hitting guys late being in your face. Like he deserves more credit for being a culture changer down here than he gets credit for. He kind of started a little bit. I think so. Like he was one of those guys, just like a silent assassin, like goes out there. I didn't know much about him. He comes in at the end of the year and then you see him in playoffs. You like, Whoa, different animal.

And, and going back to the, the Gary Bittman, uh, battle we had, it wasn't much of a bad one way battle. Oh yeah. I think people are thinking I'm trying to take away for what Florida's been able to accomplish, like it all goes to management and that staff and what they've been able to do as far as like, I mean, for is like picked up off waivers. Like what are you just mentioned the Sam Bennett?

I think he was traded for a sixth round draft pick. Not sure what the fuck was going on in Calgary when they decided to do that. Like the list goes on. What was it? If that was that serious? I think I'm pretty sure Sam Bennett was traded for a sixth fourth or sixth round. And a kid I remember his name was like Schwinn or something like that. He went there.

He was a tall kid. I think they're going to pull it up now as far, um, like you just mentioned, like getting Lister Lister, Ryan and for, for Trotrak and how that's panned out. How about them last year bringing in all of rec and Larsen and who was the other defenseman on tour while they got to get rid of them, how do they replenish? They figure out a way to bring Seth Jones in and then they get fucking Nate Schmidt, who, um, in the Stanley Cup playoffs is leading the D in scoring Nate Smith.

And then what's that? Nate, con Smith. Yeah, exactly. But remember who was it? Nikola, like he's making 2.75. So there's just so many like moves along the way that's put them in this situation. So once again, that, that, that other conversation was more for a broad conversation for the league.

I don't want it to take away from anything that Florida and management and this team has been able to accomplish. That's not what the purpose of it is. And the argument that everybody keeps making about it and, and Ace mentioned it and Gary did it's like, it's 15 years ago um nobody was talking about this it's like yes well 15 years ago the cap was 44 million so the 11 of the state tax on that amount of money is like whatever let's uh like three four million dollars the argument that it was like this forever is ridiculous things change like i don't think things change and also now

we're at $100 million cap and if you're talking about 10% state tax or 11% difference, talking about a $10 million player here. Yeah. Or a Barbachev and then whatever, a couple of Mikolas. Like you know what I'm saying? So that's just why it needs to be brought up

and like you're saying with like things evolve, things change, like it's like people, like remember when Lou Lamarrillo, when he tried to sign Kovalchuk to that deal, like there's clear manipulation and things that happen over time where you're like, oh, we could take advantage of this. We could take advantage of that. This just seems to be one of those things as the cap's gone

up, that it's like, it's clearly obvious where there's an advantage for teams. I mean, six years in a row now, a team from Florida has made it. Look at Dallas, look at Vegas, like they're, they're all going to be wagons for a very long time, especially if they have good management. I want to talk about Edmonton game three. I got to just rip off a couple quick ads here, guys. And it starts with game time. The Stanley Cup finals are here. We're almost halfway through if this goes seven. The only place to buy hard to get finals tickets is game

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playoffs last night. Alright. So a little little state of the union here where I know games one and two against the Kings were complete disasters but last night was was something that I've really haven't witnessed. I didn't expect to see in this final, specifically after they won game one. It's like, this is a different team. This is a different year. The lack of discipline to start that game. And I know that the penalties were evened up technically, right?

Like Oilers fans, I don't want to hear we lost because of the ref. Four minors. Get out of here with this. We're want to hear we lost because of the rest all four minors Yeah, get out of here with this. We're not doing this in the middle of the final or miners each in the do I like the refereeing last last night. No, it was a little bit of a ref show from the beginning But don't blame the ref as not why we lost that game We lost that game because their special teams were better. They were better five on five Their goalie was way better. The refs weren't great. They didn't lose us the game. Okay?

Evander Kane, I don't know what he's thinking in the first period. You cannot, when you take penalties in the offensive zone, one of them on the power play, when you're 200 feet from your own goal, you cannot take stick penalties. What did coaches used to say? Those stick penalties, those hookings, those high stickings in the offensive zone are just momentum vibe killers. It's like you just you can't deal with it. And Florida's power play and their team, you can't give them momentum. Right. And to start that game up now, Kane also I saw something I'm like, what is he doing? And this guy's

been awesome in the playoffs, and you're going to need him to be awesome to win. I think I mentioned on one show I did like this is a true X Factor in the finals of Andrew Kane with how Florida plays the starting lineup is on the blue line it was McDavid it was Nuge it was Perry it was Ekholm and Bouchard I believe and the Florida Panthers starting five is on the blue line with the goalies in each crease waiting for the anthems to begin and then Kane is just wheeling around the oiler zone. I'm like I thought he was starting his way. I'm like he's not even start What is he doing? I don't know if it's a little like want to keep my legs going I don't know if it's a little I like the attention here. I'm getting myself fired up

I'm just like this is an odd start like the whole teams on the bench the starting lineup is in the blue line and you're doing figure eights And then to do that in the first period just running around which you got to run around But you cannot take penalties like that. You can't do it. The one on Marshawn was bad, but he can't that's just bad It's just and then like the late the one later he got against for he was it for Hagee or Reinhardt at that point Yeah, who cares slash him in the face? I don't care like fuck you're getting I actually didn't mind what they did at the end of the game. They looked ridiculous, but it's like, we're getting pounded. We got to do something. It goes back to that third line, too. Starting that game minute in, they win the face off. Kind of a weird play, like sometimes off the face off, like if you're a center, you know,

you're supposed to lock up center on center. So I think that Dry Cytle, the puck ended up going to his right. Yeah. And I don't know if he lost sight of it and all of a sudden it ended up springing where like Lundell got loose, right? He was all alone. And then I don't know if you notice as dry side, I was trying to go get him before he gets to behind the net because now all of a sudden he's got separation loose to Ryan and sets that little pick and then dry shuttle tries like elbow. Oh, I think he did catch him. Oh, he fucking dog. I was like, oh shit. There was no call, but I love the play by Lundell.

You're a minute in, like everybody wants a slow easy start. It's like, nah, let's just get it to the blue paint. Get it to there. They're fucking caving in. And sure enough, the rat king himself goes skate the stick and it's in back of the net. Now. Now what is Skinner doing there?

So that- He wasn't himself last night. I asked Hank, I said, how do you think he recovers from that OT winner? Because I thought that OT goal was brutal. Kind of a weird bond. Yeah, I thought when I originally saw it, Leon had such a good back check.

He fucking took his stick away. Yeah, but no, but he did get a piece of it on his backhand. I thought he didn't touch it on his backhand. He let it in just coming off his stick forehand through the net. He got a little piece of it where he's opening up his legs. There's a back check. Yeah, obviously one he probably should have had, but it wasn't as bad has he not not touched it with his backhand.

If he'd scored it when it came right off his forehand, it would have been a real disaster. At least there was contact to slide at five hole. But did you say were you saying Hank was like nervous for him on how he'd recover from that no I asked him easy you just have to let it go and I kind of gave like they'll you know leave it behind your reset and that's tough but then then all of a sudden pangers thing piece comes up and and then he shows how Skinner ties his skates. Did you see that? No. You could probably take Skinner's skate off of his foot if you wanted to when it's tied for the game.

Well, are we going with that now? He's tied his skates the same way. He's been to two straight cup finals. I don't think how he ties his skates is why he played bad last night. I think they were, I asked Hank about it. He seems it's a little weird that you can't really push off that good when it's like so loose.

No, everyone's like, look at Drew Doughty skates. He's one of the best defenseman ever. And he barely, I'm not like blaming it. Yeah, you are. And it went into that. And then all of a sudden he's skin off his hand when he ties. All of a sudden he's in. All office and when he ties all the sudden, he's in the bobs are eyelid to eyelid. I don't even think Marsha got that laces anymore.

Marsha got that puck. Fucking Skinner was in the fucking neutral zone. I don't know what happened there. I he kind of went out on the original when Lundell threw it in front. But when I looked at the goal, like right away, I'm like, he's on his stomach outside the crease, like, what are we doing here? But Bois State almost fell off. Now, now.

He's wearing Pimbaling. Now, then like, all right, let's just get out of this first period last night. Because before they, I know they scored a minute in, that first shift, Bouchard had an incredible shot from the point that Bob made a great save. Bob was unreal. And once again, Murls, who's every idea

in the history of hockey was Murls idea. You know, everything that ever happens, Murls knew was going to happen. And I think the first shift first, maybe 20 seconds, Bob just took a shot and went like this. And he's like, you're done. He goes, you're done. Like it looks, it just looked like, all right, Bob's in that mode, which on pardon my take, I mentioned like, that's the thing that scares me the most.

And then it happens. My first Coryry had one It got him right here early like he had about that hit his knob. I believe oh did it I think yeah He had about three or four ten bell saves to keep it early to weather the storm in the first period early So you know what all right? Let's get it. Let's get out of this period one nothing kind of regroup But nope another penalty and I believe this was the too many men on the ice now oilers fans This is where I do agree you can beat you can be annoyed as as I believe this was the too many men on the ice. Now Oilers fans, this is where I do agree you can be annoyed as I am.

There was a blatant, blatant too many men on the ice penalty by the Panthers in the second overtime of game two. Ekblad got injured. I don't remember exactly what happened. Somebody's wheeling into the zone. You got hit in the hand. He's getting, yeah, he got hit in the hand. He's crouched over getting off the ice and the defenseman hops on for him

While he's still three to four feet from the bench It's it's too many men on the ice like blatant right in right in front of the puck carrier The whole oilers arena standing up right no call Then they get called for this one where it was also kind of kane's fault It looked like he gave that fake change and for people who don't know what that means if you're coming to the bench You know and it's very obvious to the entire bench including the guy hopping on that you're coming to the bench He's hopping on well You can't then you turn you cannot turn around and go back because that guy's already on that's what happened boom too many men And what what the fuck goes down?

Carter Verhege I think it was maybe one of the nastiest shots I can remember in this year's play I had about this much he had and the puck was rolling it was on edge When the puck went on edge for me, I was over the glass Like I remember trying to shoot one went over the glass in Long Island one time He's picking the corner where the crossbar meets the post and it's to nothing and it's panic time and and now The second period starts we get I don't know how Lundell got that penalty at the end of the first period. I think I missed that. Yeah, he suckered, I forget who it was.

So it started that madness? I mean, it was madness and I feel like you could've, He was getting cross-checked. You could've taken one from either side, but he had the most aggressive punch of the guy's face. And at that point, like you said, it kind of was a bit of a ref show, where with that penalty, there was four minors each side in the first period. So it was just a full fledged gong show. Which is why I'm not going to sit there and blame the refs. We had our power play

was brutal. Wasn't good. And let's be honest about an enormous topic here is that Connor McDavid in Florida in the finals, it hasn't been well. It hasn't gone well for him. And Barkov and Forsling, every single shift, are able in this building to really slow him down. Does he have any five on five points in the five games he's played in the finals in Florida? I'm not sure. I don't...

He doesn't? That's crazy. Crazy. Crazy because... I think maybe one game he has one five on five point going back to last year. I'm not sure I don't he doesn't that's crazy crazy is crazy I think maybe one game he has one five on five point going on to last year in Florida I believe yeah, and dude you're throwing and I can't believe my watching watching for Sling like forget getting Marsha and getting Bennett How the fuck did they get Seth Jones this year? They got for Sling on waivers. They got him on waivers He is this he skates like Mick for defensemen as Mick David does for forwards. It's incredible. And he's in your face. And I guess somebody was saying Maurice had brought

up that every year he's like, I don't think he can get any better. This could be the year he takes a step back. He comes in and crushes his records or numbers from the testing the year before. Yeah. So I guess the guy... He's a freak. I guess the guy from the team won't allow him around their wives if he has a shirt off. Yeah. That's a team rule. Yeah. League rule. Speaking of shirts off. Wow. Look at this guy. You're fucking yoke. The X-Style. That's my net. Look at the shoes. Look at that. Holy Florida. If I wore that

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Jesus. He's commenting on my sunburn. I went to the beach with no sunscreen for two hours. This sun, you don't fuck around with it in Florida. Guys, we were tired. It's like the Panthers. We were tired, guys. Why do you look like this?

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He's played. That was a complete guess by the way. Was it? Yeah, I think it was correct. Oh, David has one five on five. Biz, where's the stats guy? Um, we got him over there. We have four.

Well, no, Pasha is literally looking at devil's depth. There's seven guys right now. I can't get a stab. He just grilled Elliott on the beach yesterday about the devil's free agency. Like who is thinking about devil's free agency right now? He wants to know what the Hughes workout plan is for gaining weight and gaining some muscle. I want to know about McDavid and how he could get points against

Florida in this building, Juice. He got smothered yesterday. I mean, it was a concerning loss. Like, I don't know how you feel about it, but just how they sunk to the cats game. And like the cats are, I love the way they play. I think everyone loves the way they play. It's it's old school and they wear on you and they chip you and they clutch and grab and it seems like they're more suited for that game. Like you know when you're in scrums as a player and like you're really mad and you're trying to get the guy and

the other guy's just laughing at you? Like that's the cats versus the oilers. The oilers want to, you know, you know, play that game a little bit, but the Cats are good at it, right? And they're irritating. And they're still making plays out there. And I think with the Oil, they have to, enough with the scrums, I think, to a certain degree, hold your ground, maybe fight once in a while if you wanna fight like Nurse did,

but I think they have to play fast and hard. Don't you think? Don't you worry. Yeah, and I do think in fairness, they didn't really get completely out of hand till the game was out of hand. Yeah, like I don't think they did that in the games one and two and last night they didn't really do it early. They just had too many penalties in the first. But you make a good point. Like Florida wants them to do that. It would be like being like in Tigers heyday want to do a putting competition Tiger? He's like yeah sure, okay bud.

Yeah, okay. Awesome. The cats are like you want to come punch us fine We'll just score on the power plane and rub it in your face and then cross check it from behind later in the game So magnified in Florida exactly maybe in Edmonton They kind of got away with it in Edmonton home crowd like that factors in oh, yeah And then in Florida like it with their crowd you're losing that game nine times at a time I was actually impressed in game one how how they, they almost kind of played Panther hockey and they were just as physical where I'm like, wow, maybe they got something here that, you know, maybe, you know, these, these pod

coals things, the Yan marks and they were elevating their play and also playing with that nastiness and Barkin. But I agree with you as far as being able to play your game, but also the gamesmanship of the, the, you know chirpin, um, after the whistle that like Marshawn can do that. Kachuk can do that. And even the guys that maybe aren't doing it in their lineup, which there aren't very many, they can just worry about playing hockey. So I just thought that that was, that was Edmonton playing right

into Florida's hand last night. And they, like you said, they just need to get worried about moving the puck up ice, making plays, and if if anything not giving them anything in scrums And I think completely ignoring them and then letting them kind of sleep, Florida. They're gonna play hard. They're gonna play their game I get that but don't don't feed into that with the scrums Like the second half of the game every time there was a whistle It was fucking guys like sticking guys in the groin stinky mitts in the face Like that's not how I'm gonna get some momentum from that Every time there was a whistle, it was fucking guys, like sticking guys in the groin, stinky mitts in the face.

Like, that's not how it was. But who gets the momentum from that? It was Florida every time. Like, that's where somebody on the team, like the leadership or the coaching staff, has to see what's happening and say, hey, we're losing this battle after the whistle. Like, we're the frustrated team,

so let's just like chill, right? Like, somebody has to be like, like enough with the scrums. If you want to go ask a guy to fight, go ahead, go do your thing. like enough with the sums if you want to go ask you got a fight go ahead go do your thing but enough with the scrums because we're losing all the momentum from all these scrums the crowds getting going they're happy they're happy that we're doing it Florida's definitely been like hey guys they're frustrated keep doing oh keep Marshall was going to bench I know use your heads boys use your head at the same

time I got a meth head in my face in the area with your pussy My fuck get me out of this building now I want to ask your opinion on on McDavid's quote Which I loved really kind of fired me up and probably fire up the entire city We have not been our best in this series, but it's coming I think there's an argument to be made that that Florida loves that it almost challenges them a little bit I think there's an argument to be made that Florida loves that. It almost challenges them a little bit. But you think that's the right move by him, right?

Just to kind of, not relax his team, but kind of put the fire out a little bit, like we're fine. Well, you can't overreact. They just got a beat down and they've lost the last two in a row. Series isn't over. He hated your question, so he just took it. He's literally eating in the middle of the show right now. You can wait till the show right now

you can wait till the show comes all over your your couch he's got a bag he's got an egg sandwich that's cold for sure but i respect it he's got a sunburn he's got gout and he's now eating a bagel sandwich it's a steak and egg i want you to do the talking it's a steak and egg sandwich did you you like the quote though i love the quote yeah i think that's the way you have to portray yourself with strength you can't just say oh we're we're terrible. I was brutal. I don't like that. Like still show some, be accountable and understand, Hey, like we didn't play very good. So say that, say, Hey, we got to be better. But yeah, don't beat yourselves up in the media. Like there's plenty of guys to beat, beat you up in the media. Don't beat yourself up, right? Show confidence, portray confidence and, but say, Hey, like we got to, we know we got to be better.

Do you think they, do you think they should have went to Pickard earlier? I said after the third goal. Yeah. Because I said there's nights that you can tell Skinner doesn't have it. The first goal was a sign, right? Verheggie goal, perfect shot. Can't do anything.

The Reinhardt goal, that was not that hard of a shot, perfectly played, but. Yeah, but that's Reinhardt's goal. That's such a Reinhardt goal. Have you ever seen him shoot? You played with him? Right? What do you think about the way Skinner ties the skates? But Juice, like the way he's upside down, how does he tie them? Not tied enough for this. He doesn't. Can I see this video somewhere? Reinhardt, that's his release. It is so good. He shoots it from like back here. I don't know how he even gets like...

And he like does this little manipulation with his blade like it's he's one of a kind like Perry does a little yeah exactly yeah he's got the worst shot in the league I've died I've talked about over and over we're shot in the league and this guy's got almost 500 goals combined playoffs and so anyways back to your your original question I thought for one because I thought for one the game was over even though it was only for one it felt like Edmonton had nothing the game was over Get Pickard in you know he hasn't played a long time you might need him you might want to start him next game He's hasn't lost in the playoffs you would start him that I would consider it just to stop the bleeding and give a different look

Because if you you know Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, so you just I don't know you would consider I would came in or if you don't know, you would consider it. If he came in. Or if you don't tie your skates tighter. No, I just saw the picture that is fucking crazy. He doesn't do the top eyelet and he barely ties his skates as a goalie. But I mean, this is also a guy who was just incredible.

Right, like you said. Bro, since the first round. I understand that, but I think that if you watch the goals that he allows when he goes east to west Maybe because escape maybe he has this going on like like what what you think if he came in the locker room next game And just ripped him tight and did the top pilot. They're just like we got him now boys He might have a skate. He might have goat and he can't tie it tight What about a layer of tape around like Duncan Keith used to do?

At one point I'll tell you this right now. I would start Skinner and I think he can, I think he can get a shutout if I tied his skates. Well, I'll tell you this right now. Go back. Remember Keith Ballard? If I go in there. Keith Ballard barely tied his skates

to one of the best skating. Dewey. Yeah. He's same way. Nobody tied their skates looser than Mike Ribeiro. Do you remember that? Yeah. Just cause he's lazy.

Yeah, exactly. He did cigarettes. He did cigarettes. Look cause he's lazy. Yeah. Exactly. Look at that. Do we get it up there? Can we show? I mean, that looks like a kid who's just tying on skates for the first time and going to go out there and break his ankle. That's a real house. It looks like bids in the miners. So even looser than that, I had a coach. It can't be real. That's real dude. I'm telling you. That's why I brought it up. Like you're heating your stance, right? Like you're molding them and you just barely want to tie.

Don't put the eyelet out. Don't put the eyelet out. So I played for this guy, Mo Mantha, with the Saginaw Spirit. I think he was with the- He was at the national program. The national program. He was a player, right?

Yeah. He played for Minnesota North Stars. Correct. And he used to tie a skate so loose. He was a coach. Yes, but when Correct. And he used to tie a skate so loose. He was a coach. Yes, but when he, but he would barely tie his skates to the point where it could come off if you just like want to take his boot off while he was on the ice. And I was like, wow, you don't really tie your skates.

He goes, I used to do this as a player. He goes, one time I was playing in a pro game and he went around the net and his skate got caught in the net and it fell off in the game, dude in the middle of a fucking pro game I think one year he had like 67 that's Skinner's Godfather no yeah that's probably why let's see moment I think he had a who's the couple big who's the guy in the LA benefit game that didn't tie his skates he's like a Bieber no you're talking about dirt is it Evans he's a TV. No, you're talking about dirt. Is it Evans? He's a TV guy for LA. You know, Mo Mantha had 67 points for and 102

Pims, the Pittsburgh Penguins at 85, 86 all on one skate. Yeah, he looks like he doesn't tie his skate. So what what does the chat think about the way that Skinner ties his skate? I also allow this to become a story line. I just can't. I also when the goalies put on their pad, don't they tie something around? Isn't there like something that ties it? I still don't think that's real.

I still think that's like just maybe he's eating a minute hit before the game being like I was down the locker room talking to him about that. Panger was letting in goals from the red line when he played that we can't let me listen to Panger judge him how he ties his skate. And I love Panger. He's a legend, but we're not making this a storyline. But it is all of a sudden, if we lose the cup cause Skinner's tying his skates too loose, I won't be able to stand it. I won't be able to deal with it.

We got skate gate. Okay. Going into game four, I want to ask him this. Would you pay Bennett 10 million a year? Florida or Toronto? It used to go trying to get them. I I'm this ask him this. Would you pay Ben at 10 million a year? Florida or Toronto? Are you still trying to get him? I'm- This is tampering.

You lost him. This is kind of tampering because he actually- Don't you work for the Leafs? If you're a GM- No, he's fired. Tampering. If you're a GM and three agency hits,

are you saying, Sam, we're offering you seven years at 10 million a year? I don't think you need to pay him 10 million to get him. Here. No, here, no. I think he stays here. I think why would you not, why would you not stay? I know. Why would you not stay where your value?

Do you love it? You love the team. He suits this team. Like, where's he going to go? He's going to go on some rush team and in the West or something. You know what I mean? And go up and down. It always really good off the rush, sneaky, good off the road.

But I don't know. Like you, you, you have a good fit. Why would you leave it for, you know, and go back to your state tax argument, like he's making, he's gonna make good money here. But I'm saying is that that's not on the table. How much money do you need? Like you could afford this house.

He's already made 30. Beautiful house. Thank you. All right, you're really not answering my question. I know that you. Would I pay him 10? Yeah. Yes, but I also said when Tampa won the Stanley Cups, the back to backs, I thought Yanni

Gord was an $8 million player because he was a certain regular season player, but the way he played in the playoffs made him more valuable. I think you have to start evaluating guys based on how they are in the playoffs. Who cares if you get 60 points the regular season? Do you get points in the playoffs? That should be a part of the evaluation process. Your arbitration, all that stuff. That should be like magnified.

How is this guy playing the play? I don't care how many points you get. You know, Jeff Skitter gets all these points in the regular season, never, you know? Yeah, but if you're stuck on a shit team and you never make the playoffs. That's pretty much exactly what we were talking about earlier as far as evaluating where like you know more than anyone, like the game just completely changes come playoff time, like there's not as much time and space intimidation becomes way of a factor.

You would have been making 10. You probably, yeah. Yeah. I mean, no, but how many guys did you play with when all of a sudden, like push came to shove, you were like, where the fuck did this guy? Well, yeah, you need, you need courage. You need courage to play in the playoffs. And, uh, if you're a skill guy, you have to where the fuck did this guy. Well, yeah, you need you need courage. You need courage to play in the playoffs. And if you're a skill guy, you have to have the courage to take hits.

If you're a physical guy, you got to have the courage to give hits, which I think is easier. I think it's harder to have the courage to take hits and to make plays when guys are just trying to run you through the boards. And for me, we haven't brought this up yet. The biggest kick in the dick of all this right now is a guy with, I think you could argue, the most courage on the Oilers, or right up there is Zach Hyman.

And now you're seeing like, holy shit, like not only are we dealing with the Nugent Hopkins injury, but I think it's quite obvious it's something with the wrist or the hand. That's brutal. But like, if you could choose, who do you want out against the Panthers, Hyman or Nugent Hopkins you choose Nugent Hopkins, right? So no and then that's nothing it's a new Just been great. But like not having Hyman in this series is is is awful and biz can you especially the way he was playing too?

Yeah, but oh he was running and then he started scoring right before his injury I think he had two goals the game before he was injured So that that is an enormous loss that you're seeing Become even more clear on the road. So biz they've played ten games in the cup finals and What have the Panthers done in their six wins of those ten games? Can you can you think of what they've done and that's very evident in all their wins untied skinner skates? They've scored first in every single win and every win the Oilers had. They've scored first game four, five and six.

The Oilers scored first game one. The Oilers scored first. Wow. Thursday night. I I'm worried about another blowout if Florida goes up one, nothing. I'm telling you, they are able to like completely get into their game in even a different way once they get that lead. It also gives Bob that extra confidence. And I just, I think in this building, maybe it's just every time I'm in this building,

the crowd and the Panthers, they're just dominant that I'm like, they have to score first Thursday. Well, you know, what's just as important as in this building for Edmonton is scoring first, the power play. I know. So that's the only thing that's going to stop everybody from running around and chopping you in the ankle after the whistle. If your power play scores, they're going to be like,

OK, hold on, discipline, discipline. When you're power play, I know they get the goal, the power play goal, the parry goal, but too little, too late. You need to score early. Early in the game when there was three penalties in the first period, you get three power plays in the first period. Edmonton. Yeah.

They had some good looks or whatever, but you score there. It's a different game. Like that was our series in 2011 against Boston. When we went to Boston, we had looks early. We didn't score. They bullied us right out of the building. So Euler power plays more of a concern. Oh, sure. Oh, should it?

Yeah. I know. Going back to that. Cause you guys were like a completely different team at home, right? You guys won those first two games. We won first. We won all the first three and then we won game five as well. We go to Boston and it's just like this series, right? All like the crowd and everyone's on the other team is like two inches bigger

and 20 pounds heavier bullying us. So what's your, your pushback? You're going to go fight everybody and go fight Chara, Thornton, Lou Cheech, McQuade, like, no, right. Score on the power play. That's the only way you can stop these guys from bullying us. So Oilers power play scores early next game. They're in good shape.

Yeah. What are the other things that are standing out right now that like, like Edmonton needs to do? Like I, my thing going into last night's game was given the, that Nugent Hopkins gets bumped up to the top line because Hyman's not in the mix. Like I feel like the bottom six is just way more lethal on Florida side.

Of course, the third line is like, like they don't have an answer for that Edmonton really. And Greer was big coming back. We're see what he did to echo him. I mean, he attacked him at the end of the game. And then Ekholm, like, pretty much is, like, skating away from him. And he's just throwing punches at him and just being like, that Greer, he's a honey badger.

So I was sitting, before we went on air, you guys are already on air, you have, like, a three-hour pregame show. I'm standing there, kind of just on my phone, and Greer's parents walk by, and they come over and they introduce themselves to me. And, like, Dad's a a big guy and they're from. And, are you? Quebec.

No, but they're, I was like, oh yeah. And they were, they were so grateful. Like, we're so grateful to be here right now. Like the nicest, nicest people. And they're like, yeah, we just, this is so awesome watching our son playing the Stanley cup final and like just super, super grateful. I'm like, oh, I hope your son has a good game and maybe scores. And they're like, no, no, no.

Like we're just happy. He's playing. We're just grateful. He's in the lineup. And then you see him go out and just contribute, but he's always been a tough, tough player. Like him. And so this brings me to Gajdjevic. Him and Gajdjevic are like your perfect fourth liners.

I think now like run around, they never defer every four check is a hit. Even if they miss the guy and hit the boards, every four check. So as a D, you know what it's like. I hate a plan against the fourth line. Yeah. Give me Patrick Kane and Jonathan Taves. Don't give me Ben Eager and Adam Burish. Like Ron, like every hit, like, so like these guys run in and they hit and they

like bark and then Gajdjevic in my opinion is the toughest guy in the series. He's like your legitimate fourth line fighter. So what I would fight Olivier every game. He's a top, he's probably like a top five guy now in NHL. And the fact that Nurse had to fight him and did well, like Nurse deserves full marks. How many like $8 million, $10 million defensemen are fighting Gajovic and doing well?

And that was at the end of the second, right? Was that... No, that was 11 minutes left. Oh, 11? Yeah, okay, sorry. But Frederick starts the whole thing, which going after Bennett, right time to do it. But he should have done it earlier in the game. Should have done it earlier, but he makes the decision.

You could see in his head, he makes the decision, breaks the stick on him, okay, he's like, I don't care about penalties, I'm going to make a, you know, I just wish he would have got Bennett more. But then, I know what it's like, like you go into the pile and somebody grabs, someone's going to get Gadjovich. Right?

Like it just so happens he's on the ice and nurse just gets pulled from behind, gloves off, fights him for two minutes, but does an unbelievable job. Sometimes those long fights, so they could take a lot out of you for like even like a day or two. Yeah. Right. Like when you're going that long, like there was the refs were the, the lineys were busy getting the other guys in the box. That's why I had to, the real ref was there

and he's like, I'm not fucking jumping in this shit. I'll get paid enough for this shit. I think there was times too nurses like we're done and Gadjiewicz like we just began. Yeah. It's a great trade off for Florida. Yeah. So great trade off.

We have the clips of Gadjiewicz who's just acting like. Yeah. Is he doing that to the bench, his bench or the oiler's bench? I think he looked... Or is he doing it to skater's skates? I think he looked back at the oiler's box, like where their guys were, where they're in the penalty box. And then also when he was going down the tunnel, he was like doing some dancing.

I know. And also when at one point he was in the box or it was Greer in the box they were like laughing they were like the bash brothers and mighty ducks like I'm like oh god. I got a quick story about hip so and I think this story is appropriate so in the Toronto series I'm doing like a thing on Tanev how he takes so many hits and I'm like you know Tanev doesn't have to take every hit on the forecheck. You know, when F1's coming, he's gonna run you through the boards,

just sidestep him, right? Like I get, you're tough and everything, but you don't have to take every hit. And I go, like a guy like Gajdjovic, and I show the hit, I go, you don't have to take this hit from a fourth line meathead, right? I just say it innocently, his dad reaches out to me after, and I've never talked to his dad,

I didn't know who he was. I'm not gonna say how, but his dad gets to to me and he says, and I, and I could, it was a bit of a rant. Like my son is a great person and a father of twins and a great brother and all that stuff. And, uh, usually like I wouldn't respond to those types of things, but I'm like, I feel, but I go, no, no, my apologies for that. Like I use meathead as a badge of honor. Like it's a hockey thing. I was a Meathead, right?

Right. So, no, and he's like, my son's a clean player. And I'm like, your son, you know, but he's not a clean player. That's how I ended it. I go, my apologies if I offended you and your family. I get it. It's a badge of honor. But just so we're clear, your son is not a clean player.

Neither was I. And he's like, thank you for reaching out. And then I watch this guy now. Obviously're gonna watch him more I love the way he plays his role. I mean probably don't know no, I play this role perfect I have no problem like when I'm talking Bennett Marshawn gadget like they're they're an incredible team with every single thing you need Slaughtered in the right position. Yeah, but you can't say your son's not a me He's getting off the ice like flex say your son's not a meathead. He's getting off the ice like flexing at the... Like that's meathead stuff.

It's... Buddy, it's exactly what's needed. You're doing exactly what's needed. It is a compliment. It is a compliment. Eki told me this year that Gazvich tries to fight every game. Obviously he doesn't, but he said he's one of the good... Like he's never turning down a fight.

He's always asking guys, but guys don't want to fight him. Cause I was kind of like, what's this guy's deal? He looks very effective. He's like, dude, he's a nail gun. He wants to fight. He wants to be in the battle every night, but he just doesn't get as many cause there's no, there's no takers for guys who would fight him on the oilers, like willingly, not willing.

Like nobody wants to trend. Frederick's are challenged. Yeah. Okay. Well, I don't think Fred Frederick has, has made a big enough impact these playoffs to not do that. He's got to lay some dough. I was just looking, oh, it's no 60. I couldn't think of the other fourth line guy who's...

He's a big dude. He plays hard. He's not tough, but he's... I mean, luckily he got that penalty for game one. That's how we got the dub in overtime, right? The over the glass penalty. But you bring up Frederick and you bring up the depth of the Oilers who, and I quickly I brought this up that right now it's like you got through the first three rounds based

on your depth and you saw, you saw what these guys were able to bring. You saw that like Arvidsson gets in the lineup. He's playing great. You got Connor Brown, you got Frederick and Frederick probably hasn't done as much as the other depth guys throughout the series, but now they've all disappeared. Pod Colson, like I mentioned, at no point in the first three rounds were you seeing him get run over at the offensive blue line, then getting it and turning it over for a breakaway against.

So I don't know how you switch that up. I don't know if their depth is just now outclassed and it hadn't been against Vegas and Dallas and LA. But if they don't get those guys going, all we talked about was that McDavid and Dreisel hadn't had to win them series. And now it looks like they might have to. And I don't know if they can against this team.

That's why we say last game was a beat down because the top guys couldn't get anything going. Leon had no shots on that. But then the bottom six got beat down too. It was like a full, full beat down. Like you, you can't really nitpick like everybody, everybody played poorly. So you can say that about everyone. You know, you can say, yeah, the bottom six has to help out.

You just can't have it all at the same time. Like you can have your top guys get cold a bit and get smothered. No, Barkov doesn't really have any points in this series, right? But you can't have your top guys get smothered, have Hyman out, have Newturt, and then have nothing from your bottom six. It's a perfect storm right now. I'll tell you what, too. Barkov not lighting it up offensively.

Keith and I, we took three shifts in a row last night. We're like, let's completely iso-cam them. Every single play is the correct play. It doesn't matter if he's not scoring. He's rushing it up through the neutral zone. He's giving a little back he's like not scoring. I mean he's rushing it up through the neutral zone. He's giving a little backhand sauce right on a guy's tape. He has it in the off. He had in the defensive zone that time. He's under pressure. Puts it off the wall to himself. High flip out. Like he never makes mistakes. He really does it. That's why you're

you're not a writer because you see that. Because we see that you don't have to look at a stat page and be like no points. You watch him you're like he's effective. He's affecting the game in a good way. But the people that are like oh he's not scoring like they're just looking at a stat page and be like, no points. You watch him, you're like, he's effective. He's affecting the game in a good way. But the people that are like, oh, he's not scoring, like they're just looking at the stat sheet after, oh, Berkhov's not playing good. Well, no, he's playing amazing. Yeah. Would you have Marsha on the Hall of Fame?

Oh, we were talking about this. Were we talking about this the other day? I don't know if I was talking about it. Ellie and I had this debate. I said not yet. And there's another person who's a really good player. And I think he said the same thing could be the best player ever. And not yet because once he gets a thousand points, if he gets this one, but he's got no, no one

will like, what about gets love is gets love a hall of fame? I think both of them. So why, what's the difference? I think they're both. One cup each and they're rookier, right? Olympics for Gatsy. I don't think Marshaan has an Olympics. No individual awards for either, right? And I think Gatsy's a Hall of Famer.

Yeah. Perry's a for sure Hall of Famer because he's won everything. He's got the MVP. And he's got the heart. But don't you think that kind of factors in a little bit? You have to have maybe an individual award. I agree. I agree with that when you, when the other argument is the individual awards and all

that, but I also have just, and maybe it's cause I played against them. Like it's more like when I hear a name, I right away, I'm like, yes or no. And Marshawn and guests have a yes and Perry's yes. Well, Marshawn might get 500 goals. Maybe right. He's got like four 30 right now or something like that. So yeah, 500 goals, 1000 points. Stanley Cup, maybe two Stanley Cups.

I mean, I mean, like, OK, so Bergeron has how many selkies? Six, like a bunch of selkies. But if you look at just the numbers, right, you wouldn't be like, yes, right away. But you play against him. You play against him and you know. Yeah. But like, I think of I think of when I think of Bergeron and Getslaff, I'm like, I think Getslaff would have been Bergeron if he were on those Bruins teams. Oh yeah.

Like, do you know what I'm saying? Like in terms of like, holy, like I'm not thinking of Patrice Bergeron as like up here and Getslaff down here. Yeah. And maybe that's just playing against him and maybe people think I'm crazy saying that because he's out in Anaheim and you didn't see him, but having seen that guy in one playoff, I'm like this is one of the best players I've ever seen. So the Marchand thing, I think Hall of Famer.

I really, and this is adding like a different element to it. Like the three surgeries, the trade as a captain from the Bruins and then taking a little bit of time and now just taking over a playoff. I thought that this would have like basically got him in at this point. If they win the Stanley Cup and he has the run, I think he would have 18 points right now in these playoffs. Now, mind you, he had a quote that backs up your side of the argument against Gary Betman

where he said the tax stuff would for sure affect his free agent signing. So that's a player in the league that's making it clear that it does matter. Gary doesn't want to hear that question. You can't answer that question. No, no, no. Let's put him right on the spot. World War III amongst the owners right now. You started that, eh?

I didn't really start it. It's just like, it just like seems like a thing, right? Like it's like, now these guys are able to keep these good players because they're offering them two million dollars less, but they're making the same. So it's just like, you know, you do that throughout the course of a whole roster. And I, before you got here, we mentioned the fact that, well, oh, 15 years ago, nobody was complaining.

It's like, well, the cap was 44 million bucks. Yeah. So he said- It wasn't the internet either. It's like, well, the cap was 44 million bucks. Yeah. There wasn't. So he said, wasn't my internet either. There's a difference. He said, why do people not talk about, uh, the Canadian, uh, the Canadian teams? Everyone's like, well, the Canadian teams are a disadvantage. When you're in Canada, you get paid. I was in Vancouver for 10 years. I got paid in us money.

And then I lived in Canada, Canadian expenses. So I got back then like 25% extra right away. Now it's 40. So why is there like, it's the same, it's the same advantage. You're playing in Canada right now in Toronto, you convert your, you know, your million dollar signing bonus and you're getting subject to change. So that's why it's hard to react to it right now, I think. But it is like, it looks bad because the South has been dominating for, you know, the last five, six years. Well, it's also the only two teams in the Eastern Conference. I also factor in that like 15 years ago, the fans didn't have access to the players through social media like they do now and so just with the like how much like quote-unquote scrutiny i don't think that they want it as much like they're dealing with that in canada so they're like fuck it not only am i making more or like the same you guys

know what i'm saying yes yeah well you're in florida and you have my brains are two reporters after most practices and games yeah and you're in toronto and you have 30 reporters after most practices and games. And you're in Toronto and you have 30. You turn it over if you're a Leafs defenseman, like your fucking parents are getting death threats. If you do it in Florida, like you're fucking going to the fucking. Or Vegas. Vegas is always buzzing around there too.

Same thing, same advantage. What trade do you think Boston fans hurts more, the Jumbo one or the Marshawn one? Even though Jumbo obviously had his whole. Oh, the Marshawn one right now by a mile Things they they they were able and the argument that they'll say is they were able to get char and savarred based on that It was kind of the beginning of it. Then they got their Stanley Cup right now. They're watching their captain light up Light up. You just perked up a G light up the league against their most playing for

Their their most like hated rival the past few years So that this one's just a kick in the dick. Hey, this is not your last question, but I'm gonna get the ad out of the way It's the rollback last question here we go Because we don't want you to leave yet use the code chicklets on rollback calm for generous 20% off your first purchase Through the end of the week that's chic lets on our H. O Basked calm all polos shorts swim trunks, hoodies, 20% off promo code chiclets. Do the Oilers win game four? I think they do. I love you. I do. I think Pascha says same things. They're going to

roll in Florida. This is where the days off helps. Right? Juice, the legend, huge, huge reset. Nobody's at the ring today. This is where kind of the legend of McDavid and Dry Sight will take over. This is where they have to, one of those games where they just will, like in the LA series, they're not gonna lose, they will not be denied. If they're the only two going early,

they'll be the only two going early and they'll drag everyone into the game. Like that one game in LA in the first period, they were the only two guys going. Remember they scored the goal with like 30 seconds left from the period on the faceoff play. McDavid, it was earlier, McDavid like undressed everyone, pass it to Dreisaitl and it was three one

going into the intermission. I don't even think they won that game, but I think it's gonna be one of those type of games where they just, those two will not be denied and get on back, get on my back and follow me. If not, we'll win it on our own there's nothing i want more than that series going back to headman we we deserve a two two series yes we do no we really do and it's it yeah for me like three one yeah they won three in a three in

a row last year like i don't i don't know basically the only thing i'm looking at because i'm way ahead of myself my brain is is all over the map. They somehow lose four. They're going to win five. Then you just got to win one game on the road game six. But but that's like how so that actually goes. You played in the finals. That's like the madness of the files. And it's more with fans because I want to ask your opinion as a player like the highs and lows, buddy. After game one, it's like we got the key. We're going to win the Stanley Cup. Then you lose game two. two all right kind of go back there a little bit nervous then you lose game three like I don't think I don't think we can win I think it's over but we win game four we're going back home for game five we're gonna win

the Stanley Cup as a player now you guys were never not leading the series against the Bruins till game seven but you don't feel the same highs and lows that the fans do would you agree as a player no and I was I was talking to Perry about that the other day. It's funny, I'm like, oh you played in how many cups have you played in now? Five? He goes, six. Correcting me right away. And I said, now that like you're older, you're 40, you're at the end of your career and you're playing in like your sixth Stanley Cup final, do you actually like look around and kind of enjoy it? Because as a player, I didn't enjoy any of it. I didn't see any of it. You're tunnel vision. You're thinking about all that kind of stuff.

And then like the last like five, six years been working these Stanley Cup finals and you look around and like, wow, this is so cool. There's so much going on and you appreciate it more. And he's like, yeah, like I'm starting to like appreciate, be able to appreciate it more because he's older and he's had the experience over and over again. So, yeah, like when when you're in it though, especially like earlier in your career or middle of your career, you're like tunnel vision. You're not thinking about anything. You're not reading anything. You're not at least that's the way we were.

Now I don't know about these. Maybe they are. I feel like they're aware of everything. Yeah, they are. I feel like like we asked McDavid about the past to at home, the goal at home goal at home and I thought the past was going to be Vander Kane. I thought it was too. And we had a big debate about it on air and everybody was against me.

So then Elliot asked him the next day and the media scrums and he started laughing. Him and news started laughing and he didn't answer it. So like he was aware. Yeah. He was aware of the big, who it needed to get new. Yeah. He kind of just, you're saying as in he knew the argument on the broadcast. I feel like, yeah, of course he did. Cause he's did cuz I knew the question was common. He's like, huh?

Yeah, I'm not gonna answer that but what I'll say is the the end results the only thing that matters Yeah, that's how he had I would have been fucking go. It was great though It was great cuz then it keeps our argument going Yeah, but I feel like the players are a little bit more aware now, but I wasn't He was in the moment. So another storyline, I'll say, for the Oilers and a guy who's been incredible that nobody saw this coming was Klingberg. He's been unbelievable.

He was horrendous last night. I mean, horrendous. I think there's a chance you see Stetcher come back in against Florida. Like, he's an antler, and this is nothing against Klingberg, but maybe, and Stetcher's smaller smaller but he is more intense in ways like that play last night on the Reinhardt goal Klingberg has complete control the puck he's going behind the net Barkov does a great job not jammed up by the

ref so that that's the get out of the way ref but still a show right when he wield the net that's his fault you see he's skated in the rack yeah and he's skating around the net Barkov has the angle buddy just go off the glass in front of the ref. He skates directly into the ref. Now, Barkov did kind of get that free hand around him. Could have been a call. But I don't, was he, I think he was minus three after the, maybe the first three. Should they remove refs off the ice and just put them in the crowd? I mean, I think they should put them on like a pulley system and hover them over the place. So they're just looking down.

That'd be amazing. The Trollens could probably do it. Yeah. Like rappelling down. I love that idea. You ever notice with guys like Klingberg, like Swedish defensemen that aren't very physical, they only go after Swedes or Finns.

Like Klingberg will like go after Lister Ryanen. I know there's a lot of them on Florida, but they only go after- Buddy system? They never go after Canadians or Americans. It's just,'s a lot of them on Florida, but they only go after- Buddy system? They never go after Canadians or Americans. It's just, I don't know. I don't know what it is. It's like they kind of hate each other.

I'm going to notice that now that you mentioned it. Watch whenever he chops somebody, it's a fin or a sweet. Yeah. It's just like he feels more comfortable going after one of those kind of guys. Yeah. But I don't know.

Like I think, again, everybody had a bad day. How you going to pick out one guy who's been a big part of you getting here and say, Hey, because he has the ability to just throw pills up the middle and make great passes and give you offense, which you're not getting a ton of. I don't think you'd, I love Stetsch too. Go 11 and seven. But I think Stetsch gives you that like, you know, that compete and that like just steady.

But I think you still need. And that's why maybe you do 11 and seven, because if Klingberg isn't going and you know, when he's not going, you could tell early the passes aren't getting there. He's then yeah, maybe play more of the steady stature, but if he's going, you give them a little bit of leash because you need to get the puck to these guys in the neutral zone. Like they're a rush team, the Oilers and Klingberg's kind of your best bet to get the puck. And Nurse was really good when he was playing with Stets, right?

Yeah. They would like- Like all year basically. That was his guy who like, you know, he was never- It was the LA series that he had a couple goals to, like Nurse was getting some points. Like- Do you find that when you played, like, cause you played on all three pairs throughout your career, right? When you're playing on the top pair with like, did you play with Ekblad?

For like two games. So say you're playing with that blood and you're like, okay We're both really good defensemen and then you start playing they put you to kind of insulate the new guy or the young guy Yeah, the seventh defenseman. Do you feel like like I felt like I would play better like all they think they want me to protect this Yeah, I felt like more responsibility and it's almost like that's what nurse was like He had stature the 70 hadn't played in a while and he kind of like elevated his diesel I I know I'm the guy that's gonna protect I just felt like that's he played so well with stature as an opponent What would you be making of like Paul Maurice's press conferences and like his like all the jokes and stuff. It's driving this guy mental Oh, yeah, it's a set. It's a set at the comedy set seller. They shouldn't be watching though. I don't know, like, he's entertaining.

He's fucking entertaining. I love that. He's good for us. Yeah. Great speaker. I had him at the World Championships. He ran the D. Loved him. Like, he's great for the game. Oh, for sure. It's just like he's just kind of getting rattled. What would irritate you about them? That he just keeps beating us and beating us and beat, you know, that's why I'm joking.

But if I was a Panthers fan, I'd be loving it. I think this is unbelievable. We got Jerry Seinfeld as our coach. This is awesome. He wasn't joking after game one. Like I walked by him before the press or he was just like, no, but he just wasn't the same store. He went up, he went up and he did his media scrum and he was like, wasn't

telling stories, wasn't joking around. So it's a product of winning. When you, wasn't telling stories, wasn't joking around. So it's a product of winning. When you're winning, you're feeling it. As we're pumping Marshawn's tires as we have been, and we brought up Perry just briefly, like it's crazy that he's doing this still. I mean, you mentioned his shot not being that good.

He's 40 years old. I think he's as good as he's been since his like MVP season right now Like do you just and he's not like jacked, you know what I mean? He's not like some well, that's an understatement Yeah, no kidding, but it's just you you mentioned the little stick fakes and the hockey IQ But when you were with them what that had to be what eight years ago. Were you playing with them? Little less to 2015 to 2018. Yeah, so eight years.

You remember his warmup before games? What do you do? Oh, he'd walk around. With his bar like right next to him on the stool. But he like walk around his hoodie on and then he just start doing like high legs like kicking the roof and then he would like do the splits and he would like stick handle and like he's very limber like he can

Do the splits. Yes, so my understanding is a lot of stretches for about an hour a day now just to stay very limber Especially in his whole day puts on his two knee braces and get gears gears up. Don't wear 2d braces I know I mean I've played with them for a while But I think a lot of guys do though you've you had an MCL injury most guys wear the knee braces because they're so They're good knee braces now so you get on your you So you can, they don't hinder you as much. They don't hinder you and they kind of keep everything. I wore mine to the end of my career and I had a few donjoys in my day. Weren't those the old shoulder pads?

Or were those like, I mean those shoulder pad football pad where they doused. Remember those ones? D'oh, they were just like straight up linebacker. I think they're coming back as a hockey company. Really? A pair of wheels. Oh God. It's come change your shoulder pads though.

Like I have never seen a shoulder things from college and then just a new body or like vice versa, the old body, like the old Coho. And that like nobody changes their shoulders. Oh, all these same ones. Elbow pads, shoulder pads, shin pads. You're not like you're literally using them for your whole career. I mean, and Crosby has the same cup since he was seven.

Like how, so he kind of went through like a little time there where he was basically one year deals. Like if he had a bad year, he would have to retire. Like, you know what I get, like when you get to the end of your career, 37, 38, 39, you have one bad year that like you're washed up. You lost the staff, you can't play. 38, 39, you have one bad year. They're like, you're washed up. You lost the step. You can't play.

So every year it's like a one year tryout and he's come through every year with either goals or like having that great role. And it's impressive to see it because he's playing so much higher in the lineup than he was like three, four years ago. He was, remember he was a fourth liner with Pat Maroon there for a while. And he just did what he had to do. Right. More physicality when he's a fourth liner,

you know, net front scrums, a few fights, and then now he's playing higher up in the lineup and he's producing. He just does whatever it takes. He's very sticky. But he just knows that's the term that talk uses. He gets it stuck in the boards. He's just like, oh, you're trying to use the wall

as a D-man, he'll close it off, it'll get caught in his skates, he'll take your stick away, and then he'll wait for support, and then boom, out back. I think he waits that split second better than anyone. The hesitation. It's literally half a second that most guys get rid of it, that he holds it with a little delay,

and all of a sudden it opens up everything. And somehow, I just, I never saw him still doing it, because, you know, Knott has never been a great skater so you're like, oh, he's got what, a year left and no, it's just, it's wild to see. Watch all of his points in the playoffs and goals. Everything is like you said, a hesitation before the shot. Every one is that little, like, he's the worm.

And the tie in game two. Kind of like Reinhardt has stolen from him like that weird shot, like that kind of just gets there. The tie in goal in game two by Perry, I Reinhardt has stolen from him. Like that weird shot, like that kind of just gets there. The tie in goal in game two by Perry, I think, I don't, was it Luz, it was like the perfect coverage. Like he had his stick. Oh.

You can't be disappointed as a coach. It's somehow he. I know about how he got that. I know. Crazy. I know, it's crazy. Watch when he comes down the wing and he's so slow. He does this one?

And he comes down the wing, the D's got a gap. And it looks like he's not even getting it inside the blue line. And then sometimes he starts doing this stuff. Next thing you know he's so slow and he comes down the wing, the D's got a gap and it looks like he's not even getting it inside the blue line. And then sometimes he starts doing this stuff. Next thing you know, he's behind the neck. Cause the D's like, holy shit. Like, what do I do? Like this guy's just like wiggling around. Did you see the press conference with his kid and knew like, uh, if you

contemplate in retirement and his kid was like, you said one more year, mom says one more year. Like he says one more year planning So he says more planning on, he's going to sign in Florida next year and then play another four years after that. I mean, boys, there's a chance he's, he's get the chance to lose five straight. That's tough. Last thing before we bring in Liam McHugh, he's behind here. We're doing a lot of the bus for this show too. Please, Liam, please. Yeah, take it over.

Yeah, because he's going to be in the pool. He just has egg farts now, though, after his bagel sandwich. Is that what that smell was? Yeah, she just dropped one point. He'll open up his legs, too. He's a sick white. That's my breath. Breaking news.

Calder Trophy, Lane Hudson. That just broke. What do you make of that? You like watching his game this year? Yeah, I do. I, Lane Hudson. That just broke. What do you make of that? You like watching his game? I liked, yeah, I do. I liked all three of them. No, I thought all three of them you could make a case for, but, um, Montreal making the playoffs gives him the edge over Dustin Wolf and celebrini.

Celebrini 18 years old and scores 25 goals. What were you doing at 18? Celebrini still hasn't turned like the seven 11 at Welland. O'Gers. You were, you were eating mid at a strip club. You were a pouncer at a strip club when you were that age. I just think as a defenseman, like we were all rookies at one point, like to dominate the way that he did.

And like you said, get his team into the playoffs as a defenseman that trumps. What everyone's small defensemen. Yeah. And that last 15 games, he was paying like 25 minutes. Some games I remember one night they played against Colorado, he was playing out there against McKinnon. I think he had like two assists, 25 minutes. Didn't he have the most points by a rookie?

Most assists. Lyle Odleyne is one of them. Most assists ever by a rookie defenseman? Or was it second? Second, I think Larry, no not Murphy. Yeah, it might have been Larry Murphy. Larry, no Phil Housley. I Larry might've been Larry Murphy. Oh, Phil Housley. I don't know.

That sounds more accurate, but you know what I heard about him is, uh, even towards the end of the year, so like rookie putting up big points, playing the most, you think he would have like a little bit of like an arrogance to him, like not picking up the puck anymore. Not going on. He went on first every day still towards the end of the season and he got off the ice loss, like he still, like, even rookie even though he was you know their number one D like I love that stuff he tied him 60 assists he he he's tied for the record

for most assists in the history of the league with a defenseman with Larry Murphy and so that's like give him the rookie of the year now interesting that we talked about Skinner skates something Lane Hudson had mentioned that has made him the skater he is is he would go out and skate on the ice with no laces in his skate. What you should have done. He would go around when he was younger and he'd skate with no laces in his. Yeah, I think that all the brothers did that.

Okay. Well, I mean, you know, if it can work for him, it's what he fucking tied him up for the game with. Yeah, I know. But I don't think they're tied super tight. If he was training with no laces in his tongues out of his skates fall around, he still hops around like he does now. And and start picker.

Mind you, like Celebrini, but not in a mean way, but like in an occlusive way. He used I used to go through skates a lot and like biz would be sitting next to me in the locker room and be like, hey Hey Stan, can I get new skates? And Stan would be like, walking over and be like, yeah, no. He'd be like Biz, you're one a year. And then I got new ones and then I put them in the oven and then I got distracted and then 45 minutes later I came back and the new ones were melted.

I had to go back to my old ones. No! Was Biz's helmet too high on his head when he played? It felt like it sat up high. Hey everybody, thank Kevin Baxter for joining us. Thanks for coming by. No, he had a sunburn on his forehead. Juice, Juice, don't leave me hanging. Please don't leave me hanging. Thank you very much. You're the best. We will now bring in, I guess the main questions we have for Liam McHugh is how the hell do you work with Paul Bissonnette?

I mean when this guy showed up with that sunburn yesterday, you must have been just, just talk about the sunburn that he, that you saw Biss have. I mean you didn't dress the same. I thought Liam was going to be no sleeves too. He's ripped too, sneaky ripped. I heard, I heard the X was here and they told me you look great. So I was in there just pounding out pushups. I'm exhausted right now.

Pushup pyramid, okay. Yans' kitchen, Yans' wife walks into the house. Well, they're looking at Armie and Murr, it's like looking at me, it's like, we look great. Look at these guys. I feel like I'm diagnosing something different every day with this. Exactly.

But like the gout thing, which we'll go into later, but then he walks into the green room yesterday. Hey, I don't know if it's a joke. Like he walked in, you were so red. Like this is nothing. Like what you're looking at. They did a good job with your makeup. Yeah.

Yeah. Jami won an Emmy. Oh, that's pretty sick. I got her an award and you didn't believe it. I'm like, what is wrong with you? And you're like, oh, it was a Yeah, that's pretty sick. I got her an award. And you didn't believe it. I'm like, what is wrong with you? And you're like, oh, was it bad? It's not bad, right?

You look over, you go to the mirror. So you don't consider sunscreen in the Florida sun yesterday. I put a little bit on my face. I have like a special one, but obviously I go in the ocean. It probably got rinsed off. And then yeah, I was out there for two and a half hours.

And when I showered and then put my moisturizer on to go to the rink, it wasn't bad. It must've, that must've like accelerated it. By the time I walk in there like an hour cause of the drive, like I saw Liam's face like what? And he's like, uh, did you lay on the sun? And I looked at him and I'm like, Oh fuck, I am in one. And then everybody that enters the room, just like greeting everyone.

Then there's like everything in the back. We've had a couple of execs. It looks like he just did like the Tortorella skating test. You're like, uh, I think Whitney. So actually I noticed pangers had a really good tan lately. I said it to him last night. I go, you got a good, he goes, I'm taking peptides. Peptides.

They give you tan. And then, and then when Bush, when Bush walked in, he goes, Oh no, it looks like this guy, I'll hold a panger. Took them all. Oh yeah. He's like, oh, I hope you don't peptide. Bush is hilarious.

Oh, Bush is fucking. Yeah. Like the most subtly funny guy out there. By the way, did you see him banging on the glass yesterday? So the water. He had enough of that, huh? Yeah, he came a little, yeah, that's enough. He's a crazy person.

He's also a big dude. Yeah. Fuck, that was Wallman, correct, doing that? Yes. Yeah, and he's like, I think, yeah, he was the one that cut the a crazy big dude. Yeah, that was wallman, correct doing that Yes. Yeah, and he's like I think yeah, he was the one that cut the shit Yeah, yeah, my shit wires cross which almost beat me up my first training camp What we did a drill that you had to like rim the puck around and obviously was my first training camp I got a little too excited. I rimmed it a little too hard. He chases me around this drills Chase I'm like whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. I was around. This drills for the goal. Hey, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

I was doing, I was literally, I was going to go home. You had enough of you. Yeah. Yeah. You get him on edge. Yeah. He's that guy, but he's also like the funniest guy could do it in prison with every single person. You mentioned already. So you were the one that originally were like biz,

you're eating 20 ounces of steak. You know, we're going on 13 nights in a row now. Oh, easy. So you like maybe before you even mentioned it, say after four nights in a row of a 12 ounce and then an eight ounce, you probably were like, this is weird. And then finally decided to say something. Well, listen, I mean, everyone, everyone laughs right away because it's biz. And I'm like, yeah, but yeah, seriously, like we well, we had a couple of those days where it was four game days, right? So you get there early and then you

steak again. And that was what it was, you know, like we'd get back and it was third game. And I swear to you had eaten three steaks at this point, but you're in great shape. You're healthy, but he's injured too. Then he, he, he looks at me and it's like talking to, honestly, I got two boys. Boys. This is, you're my third. All right. Cause I have a, I have an 11, 12 year old, a 10 year old. Claim him on your, uh, yeah. I mean, he's just, he's bleeding me dry.

But they, he looked at me like that. He goes, Oh, why is that bad? Should you not do that? Is that too much? Yeah. It's way too much. I love also that I think you were probably more annoyed that I was right. Oh, this was before the goal. I was sitting. Oh no, no, no.

He called them up for, yeah. Oh no. You had warned. I had, I had concern. He was probably like, what are you talking about bro? Two semesters of biology at NASA community college. And I knew that he had gout. So what does Liam know? I'm four inches tall. He's like, have you ever gotten gout? And I'm that he had gout. So. He's like, what does Liam know? I'm four inches tall. He brought it up. He's like, have you ever gotten gout? And I'm like, no. And like, I was annoyed that you asked.

I was just more kind of like, oh, you got my wheels spinning. I'm trying to- Were you annoyed that I was right? No, I fucking- He's like, I'm gonna prove him wrong. He's like, my foot's swollen because the girl sucked on my lap.

Yeah. I literally, because I thought I broke my foot. So when I called the doc, he's like, hey, describe to me the pain, send me the picture, and he goes goes I don't think you broke your foot I think you have gout and I was like Liam McHugh Hey, but how would you thought you you nothing happened to your foot? I was I worked out a couple days in the roll and I'm like a stress fracture

Maybe I thought maybe it was like a little yeah a little stress fracture and then it amplified because I flew and then the swelling and then my There was a rib eye in your toe. And I think as, as Edzo described it or somebody described it, like they couldn't even put a sheet over it. Like if they went to sleep and the sheet touched it and be like, ah, so yeah. So I texted you right away. So thanks for being my, my, my second father, but, um, I want to dive into

your career, how many Stanley cup finals now Is this like, uh, I was part First one with NBC. Yeah, so like 2011. Oh, yeah Okay, and so I just really started there and I only got to do a couple games Dan Patrick was still doing stuff So it was Dan Patrick So that was his final year. I'm moving on. Oh, well, then it was right after that So that versus plus NBC. And I got to do a couple. So I did the first two and then Vancouver was like in full celebration mode.

It was like they'd won the cup. They'd swept them to nothing. And it was awesome. I didn't have kids. My wife came out to Vancouver and we were done. We were just like vacationing there. And then to watch as a fan the rest of that one. Oh yeah.

Oh, and see it go down. Wow. And hear like, you know, that the plane was taken off and flying from Vancouver while like basically like, you know, it felt like riots were happening. Yeah, it didn't feel, it didn't feel like it. It was. Yeah. So you flew out the night, the riots. No, so I was done.

Like I was back home and like now I'm watching all this, like what the hell just happened in this series? Uh, so I've been doing it since then. I know the bubble ones wasn't really involved. One of the two, but we did everything. So when you found out though that that NBC Sports was done, like you had to have you had to have like a worry, right? Did you already know TNT was going to hire you?

What am I going to do? No, no, not at all. I was like terrified. Don't like I and I found out like around the time that we were losing the NHL, that I was basically not coming back at all. And I did like football, I did college football. So yeah, no, like we had a house, you had kids, you don't know what you're going to do. It was rough, man. And then people were getting picked off like, oh, they're going to ESPN,

which is like the worst because people are like trying to tell you what's happening and where they're going. But also I got nothing right now. I don't want to hear this. Yeah. I was like July 1st, nobody's calling your buddies. They're calling you their office. But I gotta say, like, I mean, a big thing that worked for me was, uh, the guys at NBC, I think they, you know, Jonesy specifically, Edzo, those guys went in there and they're

like, if you're looking for a host, like, Oh, like don't overthink this. That's awesome. Bring them down. Yeah. And they also like, you know, looking for a host, like, Oh, like don't overthink this. That's awesome. Bring them down. He's done it. Yeah. And they also like, you know, I think you're going to get more out of them here than you got on NBC. They're like, he, you know, it was just a different vibe there.

Yeah. We're looking for something different, but if you just want them to be him, like, I think it's going to work out a lot better for you. They brought me down and it was awesome. We got to do like a little rehearsal. Yeah. It was him and ACE. Like they call you did your like triode. I remember you went for like, you'd already been hired.

Yes, but we like, just did like, papers hadn't been signed, but I had been, yeah. So then they're going to have you run through some different people. Exactly. Okay, okay. But we hadn't met before that. We hadn't? No. I thought maybe we'd cross paths.

I think maybe like online or something. Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah, I was artistically nervous. Maybe like online or something. Yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah Yeah, I was art to nervous chat room. Yeah, yeah meets nowadays on my yeah But I got the email I thought it was full fucking with me and then yeah Sure enough I fly down in Atlanta and it was him and ace in there and they kind of did like a little trial bit and The rest is history man. It's been an awesome ride But I remember that like and you were great because you were exactly who you are. You came in, no one like tried to be anything they weren't.

And I think you butchered someone's name during a highlight. Yep. But then you called yourself out. It was Riley Smith. Exactly. You got... Fuck off, dude. So good.

Hey, that's Dan Brown, bitch. What? But I remember you did that and you're like, is that, it's like how we do the show now. You're like, is that how you say his name? And're like, is that, it's like how we do the show now. You're like, is that how you say his name? And I was like, no, it's not how you say it. And then we sat there and we just were silent for a while.

And this was while the audition's happening. We were looking at each other, just nodding. I'm like, so what are you doing the rest of the summer? Now you don't have the job. We just started talking about this. And we just went back and forth. And I think- The whole highline went by,

we didn't talk about hockey or- He didn't talk about anything that was happening. And I, I think a lot of places they would have been like But they liked it, but they liked that but we're very blessed to be at a company Yeah, that doesn't take themselves too seriously and yet are so professional and I mean they are they are so first-class It's even harder and I get I cannot listen I'm gonna blow smoke but like I'm not blowing smoke like I'm gonna pump your tires Like I feel that way about you. I feel very lucky that I get to work. Oh, yeah, I'm right back It's a chemistry thing and you never know how it's gonna work But like this has been like working with you has been a huge part of my career now

So right back at you your motors insane anybody I talked to I'm like, I don't know how this guy does it He's reading off the prompter. He cutting jokes he's putting up with my bullshit is just you deserve you deserve like 20 Emmys for putting up well well let's talk about like this year with the Leafs like it seemed like people were really turning on them like you like I think we all had enough of them everyone's like Keith was ready to he drummed his face into oblivion like you had to be like all right we need the Leafs to lose like this guy's lost in the sauce right now he was wearing the ambassador jacket yeah the ambassador jacket with the yellow shirt the tie and first of all he's wearing the yellow shirt every night every night yeah just like not washing it yeah I think that's why I think that's why I think he gave it to you I think by the time I lit the candles the panel was like, we need these guys to get the whole world. The whole world was like, I need either the, the, the maple leaves to lose or this guy

to get fired. That's where we were at. Yeah. We had like a full parade planned for you. Had they won that series? That's a perfect description of the leaves. Yeah. We had in the studio, like a full parade route.

Oh, you're around. So we're going to throw confetti. A one sauce. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So now I'm a vegetarian with no testosterone in the sunburn. I guess I look at this camera angle as I sit here. Oh, I just love it.

And I can't help. I got to tell you a story. So yesterday when he went to the beach and got his sunburned, I don't know if you heard about that, he starts sending us pictures. Because you know, Ants and Carter played in Edmonton. There was always this thing about ace beach. So he brought sand to his apartment,

and he had this beach party. He was living it up. He was on a sixth floor of an apartment building and he craned up a hot tub. And then he put like, like the Tiki porches and then put sand on the balcony. And as they're after hours for the party and Edmonton, you know, the bar's closed and one 30 everybody go back to East beach. So that's pretty sick. Wow. Now the guy's telling dad jokes.

Like that's how he was living back then. So is he's trying to take like, you know, some pictures without a snow in it. And he's on the beach and he's sending pictures. Every picture is worse than the one before. Most of them are full on just crud. Like full deck truck. Like, he's got his life. This is it right?

This is taking him from here. One is he's turned over to his ass. Like it's, and, and he's sending it to me and the producer and the director. And I think we're like, they're trying to be nice in the beginning, like, could you take another picture? Yeah, I'm like, I'm not a private investigator. Legs are up like this, and it's, what was,

I think Morgan, our director, is like, these are gonna be behind a paywall. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Make sure you're 18 after a while. So we couldn't air any of them. And you're sitting, you're like, I'm not a private. I'm not a paywall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Make sure you're 18 after a while. So we couldn't air any of them and you're, yeah, you're sitting, you're like, I'm not a private, I'm not a private investigator, but sometimes you share pictures on the broadcast of what people are doing in their downtime. I figured we'd get a speech, a photo and put it up there, but it didn't make the yeah,

maybe after dark after yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Post-gate. Um, I was going to ask about working with like Jonesy and all those guys early days Mike Millbury like what were they like? They are studio behind the scenes. I want to say Babcock at one point We're he was there with us briefly. Yeah. Yeah That was day one, yeah Our Babcock quickly we only worked on briefly, but I mean, he's exactly the expectant. Right? He was like, he knew he was only there briefly. And when you have a guy who's like, he wants to coach again, he's only going to say certain things. But

he remember sports was on for a minute. Not with us. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, not with us. And I would love that. Like, think Tor's fantastic on TV. Babcock, I remember our producer, one of the executives came down to talk to him. It was really going over detail, detail. And 30 seconds into this little speech, Babcock had had enough. He paused for a second. He's like, all right, is that it? Good.

And he just walked away as if some assistant coach had come up with an awful idea. And all of a sudden, all right, it was hilarious. Otherwise, Millbury, I loved working with him. He was so fun. I loved going back and forth with him. And you get the perspective of a guy who's seen some stuff at the NHL. And he's part of so many unbelievable teams and weird stories with the Islanders. As someone who grew up on Long Island, it was really cool. Jonesy, honestly, I've said you and

Jonesy, two people have been so big in my career, Hanson Carter as well. But Jonesy, when I first started this, I was not a hockey guy. You didn't play growing up. You played soccer. Yeah. I played almost every other sport. I was more of a soccer player. Did not play hockey. I mean, I grew up in Long Island and my dad was a public school teacher. This was at the heels of the Islanders dynasty. And I'm like, oh, I want to play hockey. And he looked at me and goes, rich kid sport. End of conversation. That was the end of it. We never spoke about me playing hockey ever again. And so that was it. But I love the... Listen, I love the game. I love sports.

When I first got into this though, it's like, you know, all of a sudden, you know, and it's an audience where you mispronounce someone's name, your butcher or something, they're all over you. Now, once you're in, I feel like you're in the beginning. It's rough. Jonesy was so big in terms of just working with me and making sure I was on the right page. I think he saw, he's like, you can drive the bus.

You can host the show. Like we trust you. He's like, if you think he saw he's like, you can drive the bus. You can host the show like we trust you. He's like, if you need anything, he's like, ask any stupid question you want off camera, we're going to get through this. And first couple of years, that was huge. Did you picture him at one point? Being the president of a hockey team, like now we went to his ranch. It was outside Philly. Beautiful property.

He's got horses and I was, and I always heard how fun he was, and he was like the most hospitable, like funniest guy, I'm like this guy's a legend. But I still, even at that time, I was like, oh he's just perfect at what he does on TV, like never saw him taking over the reins of an NHL franchise, but I think he's like perfect for that as well, I just didn't picture it based

on his sense of humor and stuff. No, I wouldn't have either, just because of who he is and the life, you know, he leads. And I think he's, he's that guy. It's funny. He's laid back. He's a storyteller. But he was a prick when he played too. That's not like, I mean, just the stories, right? Like Yager was, I guess, like he was losing some money in the market. Like he'd been, it had been public. He was in the news and you know, Jonesy goes over to the bench before a game,

puts his foot up on that, Jonesy can't even like touch his knee, stretches. And he's like, Hey, yeah, how's the day trade going? That's like the quintessential, like you're pissed off at him at the same time. Like everyone on the bench probably laughing about it. I mean, guys would chase him around the ice. He pissed them off. Oh yeah. He was that type of player

So no, I don't think so, but I think what he said is interesting and I totally believe it I don't believe it when anyone else says it but when he said only this team like only the Flyers I I really do I think he loves that team loves that city. Have you ran into any of the The it's I think it's more the play-by-play announcers in the color where like you hate my team, why do you hate my team? You know what I mean? I guess it'd be different, you're just hosting the pregame or the intermission stuff,

but I don't know if you've had fans reach out like, yeah. Oh, fans, absolutely, yeah. I mean, you must get it from the island. They hate it with Florida when you live there. Even with Florida, like, I mean, we got to overtime that, uh, first game and I think Florida was out, what 14 two in the third period. And I mean, they had nothing in that third period and the oilers were coming.

So like we were pretty heavy, obviously in that intervention about the push by Edmonton and you get people like, like, all right, you know, like you obviously want them to win, you don't care. You hate Florida. We'd spend so much time talking about them. It can turn on a dime, which is the weird thing. And I love when I remember people actually accuse me a few times of like trying to push the Rangers and I grew up on Long Island and I'm an Islanders fan.

You're like, I hate this dude. I was like, I don't really, I was like, just do like an ounce of research. Like I'm not, you know, I'm not pushing anyone. I don't care. I was like, just do like an ounce of research. Like I'm not like, you know, I'm not pushing anyone. I don't care. I think, uh, they hear what they want to hear. Yes. And if you're not pumping the tires of their team, if you're talking about the other side, uh, yeah, everyone's pissed.

But I mean, I don't know. I feel like our show, we're talking about what's interesting. It's not 50 50, like, cause not every period is 50-50 right interesting content like and You know if we get a game it's different now I mean this you know this series been phenomenal and there's so much I mean I think Hank tweeted out before we went on the other night is like we need like a 45 minute intermission Just to talk about everything that happened. Oh for sure when you get like some of those October

No, buddy, listen, and it's late night and you get a West Coast game. You get to Seattle, Anaheim at 10 o'clock. Exactly. And I think- Is this eating steak? It's like, fuck. You might as well just eat steak on air for like during the intermission. I mean, it's, but I think the cool thing about our show is

we don't try to pretend it was interesting. Right. Because if it wasn't, if it was a bad period of hockey, it was a bad period of hockey. Yeah. Yeah, but you say that quite often. Like that was watching paint dry. Good paint.

And that's okay. Like that's what, if the fan probably feels that way I think most of them and find these you get responses from fans on that and They are with you because they tuned in and they want to see something exciting also They want to see their team play well, so you get some honesty there as well Let's get to some kind of quick hits. You're here Love to just have you stay around and talk about what's going on. First thing that catches my mind is the Dallas stars have decided Pete DeBoer is gonzo. And Biz was the first one we were doing a live stream of game five in Dallas against the Oilers. He pulls Jake Autinger after two goals against two nothing only I think seven

minutes into the game. And Biz right away is like that that's this is like a fireball offense like And we all kind of like I don't know he's been to three straight west of carlson's finals He's been to five of the last six with other teams. No way. No way boom decisions made biz Like you I guess you right away you realized how big of a mistake it was pulling on jer And that was before we heard the quotes after the game that might have actually done him in completely. Yeah. I just, after the game, when he said that, it just felt like he was thinking about it before the game.

You know what he said that like, how would you, like what, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's like, Oh, going back to last year, he did this, this, and this, and these games. And it's just like, how are you processing that after the loss rather than like all the other stuff that was going on in the midst of that game? Like it was discussed before and then it's like,

see the start? See, I told you this might happen. Kind of like he said he had lost six out of the last seven against them. We give up two goals early in an elimination game. Boom, he's done. And it's like, whoa, I didn't know you'd be coming with that. The season's over.

Like, yeah, so you called it though. And how do the goals happen? Like how... Breakaway. Yeah, it was all... The seas parted. So what do you make of all that? I thought the decision was beyond questionable at the beginning. And then I thought, like you guys, I thought the press conference made it so much worse.

So much worse. And I think there's such an opportunity there. And I think honestly, if DeBoer had a chance to take, to do it differently, he would. I think it's an easy thing to feel that way and not say that. And it doesn't make a difference what sport you're playing. Franchise player and coach, you can't have that, you can't have that happen there. And, you know, is there a franchise goalie? He's also really well liked throughout the entire league. Yeah.

Where the guys were upset by the, yes. And I think that's the other thing where it's like his comments to remember. He was like, he handled it great. Yeah. Yeah. He, he, uh, you thought he might've saved it based on like how he handled it and where he could have gone with it, but they had made their decision. Did he say that they had or hadn't spoke like had Ottinger had a

Behind the closed doors conversation with the Boar after that game before he was then interviewed after the season. I Don't remember seeing I'm assuming they would have spoken by then right before he takes so no before the press conference I doubt it. No, no, I'm saying before, before Autinger's press conference. Yeah, like when you kind of clean out your locker a couple days later. Oh, you're talking about like the exit. Yeah.

So Pasha, you're saying that they never had a... What? That tells me everything right there, where there was obviously a disconnect, and now it makes a lot more sense. Well, that brings up the other side of like where you could play devil's advocate conspiracy theorist where he's like, all right, I got one year left. This is where I'm at.

I'm seeing these deals. I got Mike Sullivan make it 7 million a year in New York. I got talk at make it 5.5 in Philly. I will be immediately the number one guy wanted and I know I can get, like he's gonna get, he's gonna make six million a year, wherever he goes. What's he make now? I don't, four and a quarter. But doesn't, I mean, it's gotta give you some pause though,

if you're a GM. That he was willing, yeah, I don't, well I think his success. He's resumating Kress, all right, and he wins, he does, and I would say even before this episode, he has, was it Blame Goalies in the past, Well, I think his success... He's resuméed in Crest. Yes, yes, exactly. And he wins. He does. And I would say even before this episode, he has, listen, blamed goalies in the past. I think it's been documented. Oh, really?

Yeah. I mean, and not to this degree. In Vegas, right? Yeah, but it's been documented, like, listen, he's talked about them in the past, but nothing like this, okay? I think probably nothing really more than most head coaches, if they're asked direct questions about their goal-turning, uh, but it would seem to, it would give you pause. It would give me pause as a GM, you know, uh, now I think his resume probably

overrides that. Yeah. I think his success is more what sticks out. And now you also have to look at who's available, right? Who's available from the coaching standpoint. And it's any of them, any of those coaches, even in his league. And the answer is no. Oh, so I guess with, any of those coaches, even in his league and the answers. No.

Oh, and so I guess with a flurry situation with the sword in his back, that was the bore also. I, I, I believe that was, yes. When Alan Walsh. Yeah. Mark, I think flurry and Walsh tweets that out. And yeah, so like there's, I mean, there's history. But I don't think it's like a history where it's like everywhere he goes, he's doing this

to goalies. I don't think it's like that. I do feel that part of him was obviously comfortable enough where he has this resume we're talking about, where he's like, I'm going to say this because I'm feeling it. Yeah, and I don't care. And I don't really care.

What's going to be the consequence? I got a year left at 425. They're going to have to pay me if they do fire me. And then halfway through next year, when a team's desperate, they're going to hit me with a five times six. Yep. That might not be like, that might not have been a thought through in his head.

Like I'm not like we're just kind of speculating here. But you have to imagine where you say something that as a coach, you have to feel very, very comfortable in your skin with where you're at, where it's like, I feel like I'm invincible. But I brought that up because you had we had talked about about this, about it's the same for a player. I mean, you're having a big season and you see a couple guys sign deals. It's no different for a coach, right? Like you're a player, you're like,

whoa, that's a comparable for me. And he just got seven times seven. Like it's just human nature to see. Now he had one more year left and he would have gotten it after that. But yeah, it was a weird way for that all to go down. I mean, they went from, I think a weird way for that all to go down. They went from, I think a lot of people kind of had them beating the Oilers and then being

a legit Stanley Cup threat against the Panthers and boom, he's out of a job. That's how crazy the coaching carousel has become in the NHL. It's wild. But sticking with the coaching in the league, the league has kind of changed up how they're giving out certain awards this year. I thought the Spencer Carberry, Jack Adams, how they did it and for anyone who didn't see it, they brought him in. Who's the guy who does the play by play for the for the caps? Great, great play by play guy. Joe Beninati. Joe Beninati. So they had him in. It was all completely fake,

but it was more to go over the season with Joe Beninati was at the TV studio and Spencer Carberry thinks they're going to talk about the big wins and the OV goal chase and they're going through it all, but it was all set up so that his kids and his wife could come in. And I believe maybe his parents too, with the Jack Adams trophy. Pretty cool way to get it for a guy who we've seen the locker room speeches, we've seen what he's created in Washington as a culture and where he's come from and climbing from the coast all the way to the top of the mountain in the NHL and I loved it. I think it was he was a deserving winner and I thought it was a cool way to do that do that video presentation. Yeah you like all

those videos? I like this yeah I mean I think there have been listen award shows in general. Yeah they're tough. Yeah we have biz doing it in Nashville. Yeah yeah I was next to it. Yeah. Yeah. And they're, they've hit her mitt moment, miss moments and like, that's where Jesus first wanted to kill you. I think.

Yeah. Yeah. That was the first time I brought up the hot tub time. Gave you. Yeah. Yeah. He was, he had had enough of that. Yeah.

That was the dry side of look that he, when he called you whiz, it was that. It was similar to that. I love what they're doing. And I think it made total sense, especially for Carberry and the Caps, because what we've seen with that team, I think throughout the year is, uh, I loved all the behind the scenes, I love it all for many reasons, it may different teams, but what the Caps did this year. And you got to really see that locker room during the chase and how they're

all pulling for each other and Carberry, you really get to see the communication that he has with his players, uh, so genuine, so authentic. It was the perfect fit for that award for that guy. Yeah. I think it's a good example for like these up and coming coaches and the new wave of how like players want to be talked to. That's it right there. That's the epitome of it.

And going back to the award stuff, like people's attention spans are getting smaller and smaller too. So have these cool fun viral moments where that, that probably got more views than what people watching on TV would have got. Right. So, and then they had Meredith Goudreau who, uh, uh, surprised, uh, Monahan. Yeah, that was awesome. Moni like that's a great, great moment.

Like, so to capture these fun things and like allow the fans to see it and you don't everyone have to assemble in an auditorium or whatever it may be for. Auditorium. Even the... Schooled. Yeah, exactly. Auditorium. Even Barkov receiving the Selkie and the King Clancy. Yeah.

It was King Clancy, like I think Zito's there and and mentions how you know, they usually go over to the hospital and visit Instead boom the kids come there with it They gave him the King Clancy and then they're like, oh, I think we had one more boom The selfie comes in in the team with in front of the team in the video room Another cool way like I had heard that they were gonna do that this year They were done with the award show or I think they're still maybe having it's like a tape the major. Yeah. And then the major ones. And then they were going to do little videos for and I was like, what are they talking about? But they've actually all came out great. And yeah, Meredith Goodrell bringing Sean

Monahan that trophy. That's an emotional one. And they've done a good job. I've been impressed by how the league's kind of pulled that off so far. Well, who do you guys think wins the heart? I think Leon I I mean we've already see did Kucherov win the Ted Lindsey. Yeah Yeah, that was already good So that's that's one where like god when you see the players vote when it doesn't match up It's like oh Jesus like there's that much of a disconnect between the media voting and the players in the league Like you almost would rather the Lindsey right like your peers are telling you you are the best players in the league. Like you almost would rather the Lindsay, right? Like your peers are telling you, you are the best player in the league. You're the most valuable. I don't think they pick Leon because he's so dirty out there. You're just slashing.

Oh yeah. Kucherov's a real lady Bing type winner. Oh, is he pretty? Yeah, he's dirty. Master than Leon? He's one of the dirtiest player in the league for the top end talent. I thought Leon can have a very natty. He can, but Kucherov is dirty. I would say Leon. I would say Kucherov's reputation in his past history is actually, it's worse. Yeah. Spended. Yeah. I feel like something like Leon. Listen, I don't consider him a dirty player, but it's like, but I do wonder about that, like for players, how much personality plays into it? Like if you don't consider him a dirty player, but it's like, but I do wonder about that. Like for players, how much personality plays into it? Like if you don't like somebody, are you voting for him as the, as the no, no, but you're also, I think Kucherov probably has guys in the league.

Like I love how little he, he gives a fuck that that sounds worse than it is. Almost like it's just like Kuch. Like he's just, he's so nasty while also being being like he could give a fuck about your Ted Lindsey trophy So I can't get it in deep You know what I mean? Like that's more like players kind of love that a little bit But we'll see I mean so we have we I think Leon gets gets MVP. I do rocket Rashad McDavid missing time, him being that good. I think that ends up

happening but the Ted Lindsay did surprise me because I thought this year's winner would win both. I can say so I have a vote. I voted. They took my vote away. They took my votes away. I gave Crosby the selkie last year and I think I lost my vote. Yeah. That one. So. Wow. Yeah. Who was on my list? Okay. Okay. Who'd you vote for? Hellbuck. Wow. Yeah. He was on my list. Okay. Who'd you vote for? Hellebuck. Okay. Yeah. Pucherov second, Dreisaitl third. But I would say this. I don't care. Like not that I don't have an opinion on. Any of the three of them could win. It doesn't feel like that year where. Yeah. But I do wonder now that you mentioned like the player vote. I wonder how the players would feel about voting for a goalie. So my whole thing is that the goalies they start what I know hella bucks at the top end 55 60 games. Yep They're not playing in every game now when they're in the game

They're on the ice the entire time, but the Pox in the office of zone I just to me the MVP is somebody that's that's playing every game You know missing to what did Leon miss two or three games? Like I just have a tough time giving MVP to goalie based on the fact that you're not in the lineup contributing every single night. But Hellebuck's season is that impressive where I'm with you. If he got it, it's not like I'm like, that's bullshit. Yeah. And that's kind of, I don't know if you guys have a strong deal in one way or the other about who wins it this year.

No, I think that Hellebuck, especially from today's standard of how much goalies actually play. When Omar won it, I feel like he played like less games. Well, they split the net, yeah, him and Swayman Romas. And he won the best. Yeah. Yeah. So when the year that Theodore won it, how many games did he play as a goalie? Probably 70 back then. Yeah, because that's what I mean. Back then it might have been a little bit more... 68. A little easier because guys can respect the fact that you're playing home serve. And Price won it as well, right? Yeah. Price won MVP, correct?

Price won MVP. Dominic Koscik. Okay, so you have to look though that the last two goalies that won it, when you're that good in Montreal, that's going to add something. True. That is going to add something with media. You're the Canadian's goalie and you're lighting it up. That's going to make a that is going to add something with media. You're you're the Canadians goalie and you're lighten it up That's gonna make a little bit of a difference now when it went up obviously, you know hell bucks in Canada

so that could also kind of add to this but I also think if he's not on Winnipeg, they don't even make playoffs like there would be the definition Yeah, which would be the it's most valuable to your team, right? Yep. That's the but I look at like without Leon this year Oh, I think you make the case for all. Yeah, I think you absolutely do and Leon specifically in terms of if he was out I Mean for an extended period of time and this team's grinding. Oh god They're scraping by to try to get in what else is there any other award? Yeah, there's no other awards, but there's a player that we've talked about endlessly here that we now will have on, I believe, but TJ Oshie announced his retirement.

And this year was just, it was a foregone conclusion. The back could not hold up, but holy shit, this guy. I mean, talk about a gamer. And like, I think of Oshie, and I think most hockey fans that know his name maybe fringe hockey fans It's like Olympics shootout against Russia. It was it was one of the coolest things anyone's ever seen I just more remember playing against him I remember hearing about him at North Dakota hearing about him even prior to that when he's lighting up Was it Warroad or no? Yeah war? Yeah, he's just he's always been a gamer

He had the most insane skills on on breakaways. He was a tank, one of the masters of the reverse hit, a true animal that kind of changed where St. Louis had been. The Blues had been they had good teams early 2000s with Pronger. I think they won a president's trophy. Then things slid for a little bit and then Oshie came in and then Petro was there and David Backus but Oshie was kind of the thing that brought life back to st. Louis blues hockey and then to see him right like he moves over to Washington and they get that Stanley Cup and it makes total sense that he was a guy that finally helped them get over the you know get over the hill and figure out what it took to win a Stanley Cup he'd been through the playoffs

at st. Louis and no wonder a back injury is kind of what ended it for him. Playing the way he did, there was no chance his body was going to be able to last, but that's what made you respect him that much. That he was willing to literally do anything it took, take any hit, give any hit while also scoring big goals. Like as far like a herniation. I don't know if they've ever. So I texted him, you know, obviously congratulated him

and he said that was harder than I thought, which I think is perfect for him because he fucking gave it all. Like he's a guy that gave everything to the game when he was playing, whether it was in the summertime or when he was playing, that guy gave everything. And I can imagine for a guy like that, like not having the game to play,

especially this year too. And actually announcing it. Well, you could tell he was just the ultimate team guy. Look at the tunnel antics that they would, they just know the pregame rituals and how, how big of a smile he had on and warm up the parade celebration. Oh, my God. Yeah. And I think they kind of were the first team that brought those freezy parties.

Yeah. Well, they just went on, right? Yeah. Every day. Yeah. Oh, we get to make you dance. Yeah. Yeah.

But I think that most people who know TJ Oshie and then even fans learned along the way, like what his dad meant to him coach. And if you remember, he had passed away when he won the Stanley Cup. And, or was he, he might have. No, he was there. No, he was there with him on the ice. I'm sorry, but he was in a tough spot. And just seeing the emotion coming from him

that his dad got to witness it, and like knowing what he meant to him, and being called coach and always being around, like that was something you think of too for him, how much his dad meant and that he was he got to be there. Sorry, I messed that up. But more just as an American, like watching this kid, you're like, holy shit. Does this make you proud to know this guy, see him play and congrats to him?

Incredible. All the Olympics. So I was there. Yeah. Oh, for that game. And it remains the best live sporting event I've ever been. Yeah. Was Bob in net for that? Yeah. He was. Yes.

And so, and Oshie, if you go back and look at that, he doesn't score on one of his times because it's the international rules and you can go over and over. The one he doesn't score on, he fakes Bob out horribly and misses the net. I mean, he had him beat every time. His stick skills were incredible. And to watch someone who it's funny when you look back, uh, people sit there and

like, wait, how did OSHA actually make that team? And a big reason he made that team was the idea that they could go to a shootout. I was there at that world championships, right? You could use them. Oh, he'd done it prior. You brought that up on a show. Yeah, we were like, we were going to get relegated by like France or something like that.

It was, our team was horrible. And he, same thing. He scored like six in a row for us to, to win the game. And that next year he was on the team. You know what his move was? He had, he had one of the best fake shots. He would like, he'd bring it back and totally put his body to it. Then he'd go backhand, but then he'd bring it back for him. It was two different, enormous fakes, the shot, backhand, and then back again. So I against three and like you couldn't stop it. Like every goalie bit when he faked the snapshot.

And it was, I remember in the blues camp he was doing it. And he was also running around camp. You're like, Holy fuck. I didn't know about him that well until I saw a training camp with him. And you watch someone at the Olympics go for much sports obscurity. I mean, he was a guy that fans knew. Right. But I think he's an overnight, like in an instinct and he's on every talk show.

And he's a good looking cat. And he's got that, and he's, you know, it's hockey's a joy and he's so happy to be there. And like, he was, you know, huge smile on his face. And you knew like in one way or another this guy was gonna be a star He had the skills the personality and then you'd watch him like his teammates loved him Oh, yeah loved him and you mentioned like you're right It's sort of sadly appropriate that he goes out with this sort of injury because not a big dude. No, not a big dude Yeah, he wasn't tall but he was fucking put together and he played big. He wasn't tall, but he was fucking big.

He put together and he played big. And I think the two images for me are him in that shootout and then the other one you mentioned, him and his father on that. And I don't know if we could pull it up. Might be too late. Anyone can go check it out. YouTube Oshi highlights at North Dakota. You'll see some of the biggest reverse hits you've ever seen in your life Like there's one YouTube video then he was he was a dominant player in college But like the way he was throwing the body around it was crazy, but we got one last thing I was just gonna say it's nice to see when guys like that get their thousand games

So we got a thousand regular season games. So got a mug. That's a big milestone. He got the mug Going back to that Olympics though when the shootout against Russia was Putin in those. Yes. It was, uh, I mean, so there's tension, you feel it. Uh, also, so, so she was such a strange Olympics, uh, for, for many reasons, but we would go in and there'd be security, like any Olympic event you'd go in. There were days where like, it felt like the security guards were like half asleep. You were just like walking through like, all right, cool.

That's Russia. And then that day they were taking people and put them in back rooms, patting them down and you're like, oh, so it's going to be different today. And after that game, the next day, I remember like, again, it was just like, Hey, what are you bringing in? Go right in. Enjoy the big guys not here. So like, it'll be fine.

But that day was different, man. Yeah. I remember Dave Ster late Dave straighter He was calling bass and I like he got the full like pat down in the back and like just nice man They hit him with some Russian gas in the neck It was not the year that all the guys on team USA came back with dogs because there was like straight dogs Really? Yeah, that's I gave it back as I think was a big part of yeah It was weird. I mean they were there like when we arrived and then like a week later. You're like, where did the dogs?

Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah eating at the village. Yeah, we know it wasn't Yeah, good luck with the goat the dog goat. How's that? Burnadoodle taste? All right boys big announcement, especially with you two sitting next to each other September 25th to September 27th. The Boston Stranglers versus the Big Deal Select. You know where this is going down? Where? The city of Boston.

Oh my god, you hear where it is? It's in Boston! 2025! We're gonna be in Boston. We're not going to announce the exact location yet. We're not allowed to do that. I was told, but start to get your teams together. Book your hotels. More info will come in the next few weeks.

But we're coming to Boston late September. Best time of the year, weather wise in Boston. Best time of the year. We have a war. We have a war on our hands. We got Yans and a bunch of criminals that are the Boston Stranglers versus the Toronto Maple Leafs of the Chick-Lots Cup. A team who can't win it all, who's never been able to get it done and consistently every

year thinks they will. More breaking news. I got Pete DeBoer coaching. So, Auten just not playing goalie. That stinks. Breaking news. What? I got Pete DeBoer coach. So just not playing goalie. That's thanks. Yeah. No, I have a goalie. There's a lot at stake here.

The big deal selects. We're putting our team slips pink slips. If we go, this is it. This is pink. We go farther than them. Boston strangers are done. Just like his face pink. Oh, you're not doing though.

If we don't win it, we're not done. No, if we have to go farther than the Boston Stranglers and if they go farther than us, he owns the big deal selects. He owns the name, he owns it all. He owns the players. But if the boss, we beat the Boston Stranglers, they're done. This could be a full road game to my strangles. And I know you're watching.

Get ready. Hey, I mean, it's a full road game. I know. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to have all his uncles and cousins. It's not going to be good for him. It's good.

They're going to, they're going to need the security that when Putin was at the game for his team to get in, everybody knows you there. I mean, we were at Fenway for the winter classic and weren't you like walking around outside and some guy was scalping tickets or something and he walked by. He's like, Hey, yeah. And it's like, there's security guys like you're friends with this guy. I mean, there's no way that Putin hasn't had the gulp before either. So there are a lot of similarities, I think, between you two. It's really something that that could be a bad thing for you.

But Chickert's Cup September 25th, 27th in Boston cannot wait. Liam, thank you so much. That was awesome. Thank you. Thank you. And once again, man, it's been a pleasure working with you. Like my first time being in like the broadcast game, like you're a true professional and it's been a true blessing, buddy. So thank you for everything, your friendship and your leadership as well. Yeah, what you've done for the game, both you guys, but you especially what you've done

for the game, building it the way it is, getting these guys to get personalities going. It's amazing. I don't think it's the best to do it. TNT this year and this is excluding Canada with Don Cherry in his heyday. People have looked forward to intermission. Right. And with your guys show, it actually is not a time to go do stuff at intermission. I want to see what they say and credit to both you guys Wayne, Hank, and so yeah, let. Yeah, let's uh, thank you. So listen, I love this show. I love working with you guys. Uh, and I think the biggest thing people say is it looks like you're just having

an awesome time with your buddies. And I think it's what you have right here. Uh, and that's it. It looks that way. Cause it's true, right? It doesn't, it doesn't feel like work. It's not a grind. Um, it's fun.

Chickles YouTube Thursday noon, Thursday noon game notes coming to you to set up game four. I'm nervous. I'm scared, but I believe and I think that they're going to get a dub. We needed these two days off. Thank you everyone for watching. Thank you to Liam. Thank you to Kevin, the juice. Thanks for staring at our packages for two hours and yep. And watch out for eating steak every single night for 43 minutes. You don't want to go out. You don't want to be like this and no crotch shots to your coworkers. Have a great day. Love you guys. Even if I could go away I don't know any other way

This feeling is so hard to wear I don't know any other way Even if nothing goes away I don't know any other way This feeling is so hard to break I'll get you someday