Spittin Chiclets - Spittin' Chiclets Episode 572: Featuring Matthew Schaefer

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

On Episode 572 of Spittin’ Chiclets the fellas are joined by this years First Overall Draft Pick Mathew Schaefer as he relentlessly chirps biz while talking to us about his upbringing, playing in big games, and how he sees his future in the NHL with the Islanders. But first, Free Agency shook up the league and there were hero’s and there were Zero’s. The guys break down which teams were able to bolster their lineups for this upcoming season and which teams are being left in the dust. All this and more on this weeks episode, you won’t want to miss it. 00:00:00 - START 00:00:25 - Free Agency Winners 01:04:03 - Matthew Schaefer Interview 01:53:07 - Free Agency Losers 02:09:13 - Quick Hits 02:25:43 - ETC. Support the Show: PINK WHITNEY: Take Your Shot with Pink Whitney BODYARMOR: Available for a limited time - grab your BODYARMOR Chill at 7-Eleven or a store near you. RO: Connect with a provider at RO.co/CHICLETS to find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you and get $15 off your first order RHOBACK: Use code CHICLETS on https://rhoback.com for a generous 20% off your first purchase through the  end of this weekYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/schiclets

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So I don't know what you guys think, but the only thing I have to say about this show and recapping free agency is the fucking Florida Panthers. For Christ's sake, Keith, there wasn't a way in my mind they were keeping all of them. I don't get it. I don't understand it. I do get it actually because how amazing of a place it is to play and what Viola has done there and what Zito has done there. But Christ, that's not fair that they all got to stay.

I'm not kidding. They're going to win two of the next three. Even though Zito's jamming you up. I mean, what the fuck? I was like, alright, Bennett's going back there. Probably Marshaan, but I'm not sure. But Eklat's gone. And no, bing, bang, boom.

Suck it, Whit. Suck it, rest of the league. Suck it, Eastern. It doesn't matter. Everyone, just suck it. Oh, giant. What was that, wrestler? Suck it. What was his name, Keith? Triple H. Triple H. Suck it, Hockey.

Because we're all coming back and it's an absolute joke. That's pretty, pretty basically what I have to say this show. What was the group? What was the group that used to do the like, the suck it? They used to go, is it X-Pac was one of them? X-Pac, yeah. They were NWO, New World Order. Oh yeah, what an era. The-Pac, yeah. Um, they were NWO, uh, new world order. Oh yeah.

What an era. Did the wolf, the wolf pack yet. But do you even saw it at the draft? Like every team's drafting these kids that are six, five, six, six, cause they know they're going to have to play the Florida Panthers who aren't out there chasing bags. Like guys on your guys's team, our guys are staying right in South Florida where it's a beautiful year round, getting're going to the rink in their golf cart.

Wait, we talked about it, putting that rink downtown where you can drive your golf cart to the rink, it's two and a half blocks from the ocean. Like the fact that it wasn't there the entire time that this team would have won a Stanley cup every year, the last 20 years. There's a bunch of Pan Panther fans complaining that Bill Zito hasn't won GM of the year the last three years. I wouldn't vote for that fucking guy either. Are you kidding me?

The GMs vote on it. Yeah, that's the problem. I would blackball that motherfucker the first chance I got with the way that he's handled business. He can get his name engraved on the cup, but I ain't voting for shit for him. Not only would I not answer his phone calls, I would have his number blocked for any type of trade he's trying to make. Fuck off.

I'd block his email, any type of communication. I'd hire a PI against them. That's how much he's been in guys over right now. So just an absolute masterclass. And I would imagine at some point in time, the, the other GMs stop colluding and actually vote this guy GM of the year based on the work that he's done and his staff too It's not just one guy, but just an incredible job I was actually the opposite and was on the ANZ side about it I thought there was a way that they're gonna figure out how to get all three and

It just goes back to the fact that guys want to play there They got the new practice rink like you mentioned the group of guys like the one thing that was I mean I told the story about bush going down at the JW and then all of them were in the steam room together Right before I believe it was game six or maybe it was game five Excuse me after they've blown the the lead the game before and then just every time they go with the dinner on the road, it's a, they got 20 guys who they put in a reservation and for most guys show up. So that is just a tight knit group that I believe if I had to put my life on

the line, I would say they win one more Stanley cup in the next three years. Guaranteed. I would be shocked if they didn't win another cup in the next year. Say three and five, three and five. And you know what's even crazier is that Bob after next year comes off the books at 10 and I would be sure he's going to be taking like a $3 million deal with all these bonuses that all these other guys are getting past the age of 35. Yeah. Who was saying on our group chat,

they have like 28 million in cap space after next season or something? Like I, yeah, the Bennett one made total sense and, and you know, he ends up eight by eight, like fuck biz you were giving him 10 million. I know Jason Greger was on you for that, but whatever eight by eight, like They wits Mike's kicking out. I'm not going to insult him or imitate him like he does to me when my Mike kicks out Unless you want to give it a rip

Now I'm not good at impressions me neither not as good as wit wits in Nantucket He's got a you know a six million dollar house that Sydney Crosby built but for whatever reason can't get wife I wish it was six because if it was six it'd be worth like 12 now. I'll tell you hold on Let me start a new quick Do you think horcophs stealing your internet? Is that what's going on? No, I actually don't know what's happening even over to my internet. It just saying the mics unplugged. I think it's the Panthers I think it's Zito. I honestly think something's going on with somebody within the Panthers organization Let's keep torturing that big ear. Well, he's a spiteful guy and you went dash six in that one game seven dash seven in about

three games. What was it? Ten years ago. So I think he's still making you pay for it. And he got who any guy who doesn't show up for their organization, he'll ship you to fucking Mars. It's like Bezos, his old lady. But what they got married, by the way, do you guys see 15 million a 50 million dollar wedding What happened to her face? Like what is she doing? I she was Incredible I saw all these pictures of her back in the day. I think she's had a lot of work done I don't necessarily agree with I don't know how we just got here. I mean Maybe it's your internet

Being in Florida talking about the pan the plastic surgery the work she's got done because your internet. Being in Florida talking about the Panthers, you need the plastic surgery. The work she's got done or your internet? My internet, my internet, because she still looks like a wonderful woman. Congratulations on your marriage to Jeff Bezos. But yeah, I guess Florida plastic surgery. And maybe I could probably use a little plastic surgery

if we're going to be honest. Well, it's funny you say that, is they actually are now offering a 50% discount on boob jobs. If you, if you re up your season tickets. So, uh, yeah. So we're going to get Caesar and a nice set of tits. Um, you know, he's going to look great for the, for the new year and probably what's going to be a three Pete, right? So Caesar's going to be out, out of his bust, but, uh, where were we right before that?

Yans, I think you, like I said, you called it, you knew they were going to bring these guys back and not only are they the talk of the hockey, but talk of free agency. Yeah. I just, I, I, and obviously bias too, but just living down there and knowing how fun it is to play and then, you know, these guys are winning. Like there's only such certain amount of teams that can build this type of dynasty where you can have a certain group together and have a chance to win every year. And I think that group has, has realized that like Eki, Eki probably would've got

eight, nine million on the free agency market. He's, he's making what 6.1 or 6.2. Like that's a, that's a huge hometown discount. Like we talk about Sid and the Tang doing it, like those in Malkin doing it for years, like they're doing it. Obviously they're still getting paid handsomely and they're not missing any meals, but it's one of those things where. When you get to go home from the rink and the sun's out, you can go play golf.

You can go play tennis. You can get away from the game a little bit. Like it really does. Like you don't really have any bad days. Like biz, you can go play tennis, you can get away from the game a little bit. Like it really does. Like you don't really have any bad days. Like biz, you know how it is. You live in Arizona, the sun's out, like everyone's in a good mood. So I think a lot of that has to do with, you know, living down there. Um, obviously what they built, but it's, it's these guys realizing, Hey, we stick

this together for the next seven, eight years. Like we got a chance to win every single year and they've tasted, they've tasted it. They tasted it twice in a row now. And it's like, we want to do this more. They're not just satisfied with one where, you know, some guys might just be like, all right, now I'm going to go, you know, play my hometown team or go to another team, make more money. But these guys have bought in and it's special to watch. And yeah, I think they're going to be a real issue for the other 31

teams for the next seven, eight years, or however long Barky and those guys are there. Uh, let me ask you guys this, um, when Marshawn's deal got announced, he's 37, correct? So it's a six year deal, like, and then I immediately kind of started seeing some tweets like this Is this not kind of a scam here? Like if you know like he's not gonna be is he gonna finish that deal like I don't know in the same shit when he's 43 fucking years old that's the thing with him. Who knows he actually like maybe in his mind He's like yeah, I'll still be playing but is there not an argument that that's some

Sort of way to like circumvent or as Biz says, circumcise the cap? Do you know what I mean? Didn't it happen with somebody who signed a, who signed a deal last year? Gee, look it up. There was somebody who they were already talking about this last year. Yeah, I don't know. I kind of don't really want to chirp them anymore because I've already been

stuffed in a locker with the state tax stuff. And then now, obviously, if you want to say that they're circumcising the cap by giving them a six year deal, but I mean, by years five and six, if there is a buyout, you know, maybe at that point it looks a little shitty, but the fact is though, is that's going to hurt them on the cap, right? When you buy a guy out at that age You know it's gonna you know affect you just the way it affected, Minnesota But I don't know I just feel like this guy he takes his offseason very seriously

The way he trains I mean I know that he's he shares a lot of ice with Sid still doing all those battle drills down below So I don't know man. I feel like they're the type of team to, they can kind of just cruise to the regular season. Now they don't really care if they win the Atlantic. They don't care if they get the fucking wild card at this point. They're just going to handle business the minute that playoffs hit the oneTI are which we addressed with Elliott last pod So they won't be able to throw anybody on LTI are and then make a one or two significant trades But I mean boys they had 19 million dollars in cap space going into free agency I believe they locked in those three guys just Slightly north of that and then they ended up getting no sick and the whole fourth line solidified. So currently right now they're just under three million over the cap. There

was rumblings that even before the rumbling started, you thought like who is the one guy that might end up getting like be a cap casualty. Rodriguez name keeps popping up. I'm sure they're going to do everything they can in order not to lose him. Cause he's like that perfect glue guy who can fit up and down the lineup. Um, you know, you saw him do it with other teams as well. Uh, but ultimately if he was a cap casualty, who was the one kid, the smaller forward that they had who wasn't even playing in playoffs, who's this young skevich, so he's nasty. So if he does end up being a cap casualty, that's the type of guy who they're going to be playing with. forward that they had who wasn't even playing in playoffs. Who's this young. Samuskevich.

So he's nasty. So if he does end up being a cat casualty, that's the type of guy who they're going to pull up, he'll get a full season under his belt and then next thing you know, he's going to be the next fucking Sasha Barkov. So, um, cause biz, those guys, they get plugged into the lineup and they get to play with Barky and we've talked about it at length, like you get to play with him. He's going to make you better. Like he, he's the type of guy, if you want to hit free agency, go play one year with him. You're going to have the best year of your career and then boom, you can sign a ticket.

So anyone they bring in to play with them, they could bring you in to play a couple of games, get a couple of goals and an assist, but it's not according to shave daddy. Biz, biz you're right though. It's like this year they didn't have home ice for one series to start the series. Right. And it's like, you know, we prove we don't need to have home ice advantage. And even with the Bob stuff too, like him getting older, but the way that goalies play nowadays, like if he's giving you 40 games in the regular season, once he's

getting closer to 40, it's like, all right, give us your, you know, 40 games. And then we're going to ride the shit out of you and play awesome. We know you're an absolute dog. So I think for, for them that they're set up real nice for the next few years. The same thing as him too, when I might get my head shaved, like he gets it shaved going into the off season to almost like replenish his body in order to prepare for the next journey, which will be next season and you know, we got Olympics and everything, so I might go full

buzz cut on behalf of Bob. Okay. You're going to do that. All right. Full body, full body buzz. I'm going to shave my chest, my beanbag, my hoop. I mean, I got to shave your head once. I mean, I've done that.

I'll do it again for you. Um, you know, I did it on TNTNT like where you work to shoved you in a locker Speaking of shoving in a locker. I mean we just interviewed Matthew Schaefer first overall pick I know he's an old duel from Billy Madison If you want to see a seven yes Seventeen year old dummy the biggest name in hockey sports media Paul B Bissett just tune in when we drop that interview in a couple minutes Incredible stuff Islanders fans. You're gonna love this kid, but this is my final thing on the Panthers This is the one that made me sick

especially when you're talking about Edmonton and McDavid and Leon and Bouchard and then the nurse deal like They have the pants the Panthers have Barkov, Kachak, Reinhardt, Bennett, Verhege, Lundell, Marshawn, Seth Jones, Ekblat and Forsling locked up through 2030. So what the fuck? That's it. That's it for me. That's it for my career.

Should we just take the next few seasons off and just circle back in a few? Well, I'm sure there's many fans that are like, enough of the Florida stuff, but like, guys, I don't know what you want us to do. They're running through this league and then somehow signing them on. Now, there is a lot to be said that they got pretty lucky, not lucky in terms of winning anything, but the fact that as the cap goes up and these crazy jumps we're seeing the next three years, it was perfect timing for them and it actually leads into the entire free agency where because the cap went up so much

no we lost them again can you guys hear me we got you now now you know christ this is driving me crazy we're keeping this in i'm gonna keep fucking happening too right. But listen, they kept all three in Florida. Uh, Columbus kept, uh, Provo of Bester state in van, uh, Jeru Tavares, um, like, like I feel like the cap going up allowed teams to just resign guys where we, you know, you don't see that that often. I, I, yeah. Like a lot of the older guys seem to be staying put where maybe, you know, a few years ago you saw guys like Jumbo Joe move around a little bit. The Patrick Marlowe, Pavelski ended up moving on from San Jose where I feel like a lot of these teams aren't trusting in their veterans. I mean, how many teams are looking back saying, fuck, we probably should have kept Corey Perry as he now moves on to LA where you know he's gonna do damage

where you know he can't all and loves him and we'll get to the the LA Kings and their free agency but we talked about the big winners which were the Florida Panthers who who do you have listed off as some of the other big winners with dog well I just had the screen go black again and you cut out so I'm gonna have to hear hear the question once again. Just on the other winners. And I'm going to lose my goddamn mind. No, that's okay.

It's a little adversity we're battling before we go into our off season. Kind of feel like the Edmonton Oilers at this point, we're going fully off the rails. Who do you view as the biggest winners in free agency or even before free agency hit with bringing back guys? Do you have a list of teams we can go through, who they sign and who the big winners are? And let's cover the winners and be positive before we throw it to Schaefer. And then we'll go Debbie Downer status on the back end. Okay. All right. So I think if you're talking on who had a big free agency

period, you got to talk about Carolina because Because once the Marner sweepstakes ended, and apparently from everything I've read, I think a lot of teams were hoping and kind of wishing that was their guy, that was their plan, and only one team gets him, but Ehlers was the next option. So I understand that there's people who've kind of dogged Carolina with Ehlers because he's very similar to what they have.

But dude, I mean, they gotta score more. And yes, Biz, you mentioned last week, like he hasn't scored in the playoffs, but it's just another offensive weapon that they bring in. And Keandre Miller, that trade, first off, I kind of think it's a good trade for both teams. I mean, Brent Byrnes moves on, shout out Brent Byrnes,

signs a one-year deal with Colorado. Oh, we lost Whit again. Signed a one-year deal. Brent Burns moves on, shout out Brent Burns, signs a one year deal with Colorado. Oh, we lost Witt again. Signed a one year deal. Brent Burns. He's gonna overreact. I think he's gonna put his laptop over his knee pretty soon. And the worst part is, is he was on the ice with me today from my cam. 101 the...

What? Oh, he's back. What's up, Wittie? This is unbelievable. This is fucking unbelievable. You cut out at Brent Burns. This is fucking believable, guys. I don't know what the fuck we're going to do here.

I'm going to have a fucking breakdown right now. I'm not even joking around. This is fucking infuriating. This is fucking infuriating to me. Nice house. Fucking joke. I could be over... Fucking joke. So, Carolina, okay, they added a speedy scoring winger. OK, I like it.

Keandre Miller is the one where, Keith, I don't know what you think about him. I kind of was like, ah, you know, I like his game. Great skater, but is there more to be had here? But apparently, he's going to fit in perfect with Carolina. That's the one-on-ones being able to skate and close that much, that was their guy. So to me, I'm looking at that like if Carolina wanted him that bad,

was willing to give up a first, a second, and Scott, is it Moro? Scott Moro, I believe, who's pretty nice in college. I saw him at UMass. I mean, I think it works for both sides on that trade. Yeah. I look at it almost like a Brady Shea type of defender, cause he defends with his feet. He skates really well.

And in that system, they play the man on man in the defensive zone where they're not like, Kandre Miller is a big dude. He can play physical if he needs to, but the way they defend is with their feet and he's going to, I think he's going to be great there. He's a, he's a guy that can play a lot of minutes, you know, playing in New York, like, you know, there's ups and downs there, no matter who you are. It's a big market.

It's the Rangers. Like I think he's going to go to Carolina and you're going to see him get to where that Brady Shea was when Brady, when Brady was in Carolina, like he was playing his best hockey because he was just able to trust his skating, go out there, defend with his feet, move the puck up to those forwards. And, you know, he's a guy, he's got offensive skill. He was a forward at one point. So like there's, there's opportunities for him to jump up in the play and help out.

And you could see his game is offensive numbers take over here where in New York it was like, okay, is he a stay at home guy? Is any offensive guy? So it's, I think you're going to get the both best of both worlds with him and that system and he could be a monster. I couldn't agree more, Yance. Um, just as far as like how, how raw and young he is, and he had that big offensive season with the Rangers.

I believe it was like 40, like close to 45 points. I want to say 43. And sometimes when you have a big explosion like that, you now all of a sudden think you're going to be this offensive defenseman where the points are going to come easier, where I feel like he's in that middle tier and will fit in perfectly playing that 20 minutes and probably I would assume like a number three role, like a two or three role where under a system and that type of structure, I just think he's going to flourish and you know,

with, with where things were at in New York, and I don't want to be too critical of, of like, like, cause La Violette's like an old school coach. He's been around forever. I just don't know how much from a development standpoint he can help out where I feel like Rod and his staff are a little bit better at maybe doing that because they're more used to it because they have to have a lot more homegrown talent. And I just, yeah, I think that he's going to get back to where we saw him, uh, defensively and then with that confidence, he's going to then flourish back to those types of offensive numbers.

Like I don't, I see a world where he's putting up 40 to 45 points every year and being a great shutdown defenseman and not being put on an Island. And, and I feel like with Fox having a down year too, and then then getting rid of Truba, it kind of put them in a bit of a difficult spot with people, especially New York fans wanting to see that constant growth where it's not always going to be an uphill trajectory. Right. So a great move for Carolina, their fans were barking at me all season long about

how that, how much cap space they had to work with. And obviously the Marner sweepstakes didn't work out, but unlike when they had the Rottenham deal, they had a backup plan this time and it was to get Ehlers and you know all the way up until next year's playoffs people are probably going to say the same thing like yeah let's see what he's going to be able to do come playoff time because you're ultimately going to go have to go off and play the Florida Panthers. I'm assuming where yes, Elers is a bit undersized, but talk about a guy who fits perfectly in that system as well, where he skates, skates, skates, um, helps out in a lot of areas of the game and it alleviates a little pressure off of that

top six. So, um, a great player. And my only criticism as Whit mentioned was you're looking for a scoring winger. Yes. He has done so at an unreal clip rate in the regular season, kind of like those off a Marner, um, playoff numbers, as far as goals are concerned, right? I think he's got 14 goals in his full playoff career, which is just, just under a hundred playoff game. So not exactly at the clip rate you're seeing in the regular season, but we'll see if that changes in Carolina.

But ultimately seven years at that number, that's a pretty, that's a pretty fair number for a guy who's going to bring that much to your lineup. It's also too, when we talk about it with the pressures and not having as much pressure. I mean, I know these guys are in the NHL, they put pressure on themselves, but you know, him being in Winnipeg, as opposed to Carolina, like a playoff series where you're not seeing your name in the, in the news every day of not scoring and you know, that, that, that can get to anyone. And I think for him, like he could have a nice, you know, just kind of go through

the season, score his 30, 40, 50 goals. And then, you know, be a, be a beast in the playoffs would just a little bit less pressure and then he's got guy like they have guys, they have guys that can score, they have guys that can make offensive plays, just finding that gear in the playoffs and hopefully not playing Florida. Okay. So I was off actually my bad. So he's, it says here he's played 45 playoff games in his career and he's got

nine playoff goals Right. I when you said a little under a hundred. I'm like, holy shit You know says that I must have been looking at somebody else before the paw and I had a glitch out but Yeah, I mean,, nine goals in 45 games, that's not exactly what, he's got 225 regular season goals, so just a little bit different. The other move Carolina made was signing Stankovic to an eight-year extension, six million a year.

And I wanna know your opinion. I was kinda like, what is he signing that for? Like, dude, $48 million, this kid is set for life. Like, I get it, but that's a bargain. Dude, in four years, he's making six? And that kid, I mean, he's young, he's gonna keep getting better. I think he's going to be realistically

like a 30 goal score every year, if not popping off for 40 a year. So now it's all about I guess just taking the bag and taking the security, looking at him signing that, and I understand it, but I was like wow, he's given up a lot of money in his future with that deal. Great for the Canes, and like I said, great for him, but I was surprised at that. I'll say that biz. Yeah.

I feel like it puts a little less pressure on you. Because he's a middle six winger, right? So if he ends up being a third line forward, then it's then I see him as more than that. I think he's more than that. I see him as a second line winger for sure. And I see this being a bargain contract by the end of it. Um, but I, it's just kind of how they operate there.

I mean, look at the deal that, uh, the Jarvis signed. Like that's going to be a steal in three, four years too, where he, he left some money on the table. So, um, he, he seems like the type of guy that's just salt to the earth, down earth kid, where that's going to be enough money for him, for him and his family, for, for generations and generations. So just to be able to get that over the hump, like that, that was a big, big off season that the Carolina hurricanes needed in order to put a bandaid on, on the way that they got spanked in

the conference finals again by Florida. Yeah. The last two years, right? It's, you see it all these teams and I mean, everything's a copycat league, but every team, it seems like they're trying to build their teams just to beat Florida and I don't know, like Stankhove is not the biggest guy. Ehlers isn't the biggest guy that getting Keandre Miller helps. You got to beef up the backend, but yeah, I mean, they're all, they're always

an issue playing against them. It's never, it's one of the worst buildings to play in. It's hard to play in. You know, obviously with Rod at the helm too, they're always going to have a good team and have the winning ways, but it's, you know, it's good to see that they're not just happy making the playoffs and making the past around or two, like they they're trying to get better. They want to go out there and win a cup and, uh, you know, they're doing

everything that they can. So between that signing, getting Keandre Miller and the fact that you're going to get now in the Keishen for a full season, like this is a big, young, bolstered backend, and then you got the wheels up front. So, but, but there is one issue. And when you talk about like trying to beat Florida and especially like in the Eastern conference, at least like their second line centers Cocton-Yemi like that's that is not it.

And and I think it was tree living. There was a quote from Brad Triven like I think there's twenty seven teams looking for a second line center. Like it's the it's the position in the league that so many people need help with. And see a lot of guys here, legit first line centers. Then you see a lot of teams, even good teams that at second line center, you're then looking at Florida and you're like, how would we ever beat them?

So. And that goes back to why I think that there was probably five to seven teams that were lined up to pay Ben at 10 million bucks. Yeah. I'm gonna stick to that. I'm not changing, I'm not changing on that one. Witt, that was a great pick for the second, probably

the second biggest winner, or maybe there's a few tied at second biggest winners. Who are some other teams you had as the big dogs on free agency? Well, Biz, before we get to Mitch Marner in Vegas, I'm actually in a new location as well in my house. I don't know if this is going to work. I might have a mental breakdown if it doesn't. But I've moved and so has your boy. A true relationship is now over, Biz. Mitch Marner, the newest member of the Golden Knights, eight years, 12 million a year. I've never seen that guy look that happy.

He was putting on the jersey. He had the band and the cheerleaders. I said, well, that's pure joy. He's fine. He looked great. He looked hand out. He was a man missile. I mean, he had a nice tan going.

I didn't know he had the forearm tat. He kind of looked like hockey's version of David Beckham. I mean, and like you said, I couldn't be happier for the guy just simply based on how happy he looked. He just had his first kid, his family was there, Paul was there. I guess his phone was going off during the press conference too. So making his appearance, uh, uh, first come first serve. But uh, before, before we get to more of my opinion on it, I got to know one thing in

the Whitney household is squanto sticking around with the Toronto Maple Leafs or squanto taking his talents to Vegas with Mitchie Marner. Have you talked to him? How does he feel about it? I think squanto's I think squanto's at Keith's house right now, I believe, or he was, and I asked him, he's just like, I love Matthews. I love Matthews. I love Matthews.

And he's just all about Matthews and the Leafs, I guess. So you didn't lose him. You didn't lose him. He hasn't done anything for you. They still are the Leafs. Still, still just real true laughing stocks of the league, right? Like an original six legendary franchise that never won shit. But, but you still have Squanto.

You still have him. I wouldn't worry. You don't have Marner anymore. That's a consolation prize. That's a comp. Now it was a bit of a love hate between me and Mitch in a sense of like, I love everything he brought in the regular season. Obviously I just felt like sometimes come playoff times, there was, I felt like

there was a little bit more there. And you know, and you know, there's a few moments that do stand out where when Posternak scored the Oki goal in game seven to end the Leafs season where, you know, he was, he came off the bench and Marner let him get by. There was no type of holdup or anything. So he was able to streak in. Some people are saying, well, you can't interfere with them.

You don't think the Florida Panthers are running a little interference for their defenseman there, so it gives them a little bit more time. Just that type of maybe defensive awareness. You go back to game three, where they pretty much had the series locked up, up 3-1 in that second period, up two games to none. That shift after they give up that 3-2 goal like just There was just some little things that left you a little bit frustrated as a fan But ultimately like you have to view his time in Toronto as as successful I mean he had fucking 300 point seasons like to 299 and though in the hundred point season this year

point seasons, like two, two 99 and the, on the a hundred point season this year. Um, and everything he did in the community, the way that he showed up to the ring, the way that he dealt with the media, like being a Toronto kid, being drafted into that type of environment with all the pressure in the world on you. I thought he, I thought he passed with flying colors and, um, it sucks to see him go, it's not going to be easy to replace him. Although I think they did an excellent job with the signings that they had. And of course, getting wah back in that sign and trade. But I'll just go back to saying, man, like these guys are people. I'm so happy that he's able to get out of the noise and he can bring his

talent somewhere where he can go to the grocery store with his family and not get bugged and, and just worry about playing ice hockey when he gets to the rink and kind of like Yans touched on when discussing the Florida Panthers, like you're able to have a life and a lifestyle outside of hockey and keep a lot more of your money because of no state tax. So eight times 12 is a great number for him. So 8x12 is a great number for him. I think that if you view the Rotten and Deal as like the exact same thing, I would imagine a lot of people think that Marner, based on what he's proved in playoffs, got overpaid.

If you're comparing the two, but when you're the biggest sought after free agent, you're going to have a bunch of teams just willing to pay you whatever you want in order to, I bet you fucking Carolina would have paid them 14 fucking million if they, if he really showed type of interest to go there. So, uh, good for the golden nights. Now I texted you guys this question. Do you think that it's more probable that he wins a Stanley cup in Vegas or that he doesn't finish the full eight years with the Golden Knights. Gary Lawless

he shut down the fact that they're ruthless and they could be gutless but we always go back to the the Marc-Andre flurry and how quickly they're able to get off of guys that have maybe brought him success from the early days with the misfits, maybe the Marchesot not bringing him back. But do you guys think that it's more likely he raises the Stanley Cup or that he does not finish the full eight years in Vegas? You might hit me with the, oh, he's got a no move clause for those eight years, but that always doesn't mean that the player is not going to move on.

It's a great question. It's a great question. It's a great question. I got a dog barking in my house now, too. But I think that. I think he's more likely to win a Stanley Cup there than he is to not finish that contract. I think that. That team's loaded now, they don't have Petr Angelou, which it sounds like he may never play again, right?

So and then while was a big part of a really good fourth line, but dude, if Eichel resigns there, which I imagine he does, they got Stone, they got him, and then, who's the GM? I'm just drawing a blank right now. McCrimmon. He was saying, like, it was bullshit. He was pissed off that a lot of people were mentioning

that they were gonna have to trade, they would trade William Carlson Who was the other name ripping around in room? Oh, he doesn't like the rumor boy segment hurdle hurdle Barbara Chevrolet he's like no no no I think he called Carlson and hurdle and he's like you're not going anywhere like this is All bullshit, so yeah, I think he's more likely to win a cup there. I mean, he started that rumor. Did we? I don't ever remember saying that. I mean, who knows, though? We could have. For sure, though, that he's more likely to win a Stanley Cup before the Maple Leafs do. I'll tell you that for free. That's free right there. Free 99. But it's like, he will

probably go on and get one. And that would just be so perfect to see him raising the cup and Toronto lose again in the first round or the second round. But I do want to say one thing that was I thought was crazy, crazy, in that all these Leafs fans were disgusted about his comment during a press conference being introduced to Vegas, about how he had been talking to some members of the Golden Knights at the Four Nations. And you know, like fans all of a sudden are like, this is bullshit, we got guys, we wanna try to win a Stanley Cup,

and he's asking what Vegas is like. I cannot tell you how dumb you are and how normal it is for guys to meet and play with other guys mid-season and ask what's it like? Like, you know, you're just, you're talking about another team that you're listening and you're hearing about experiences, how the teams run, everything. And like, Leafs fans are going nuts saying he was already checked out. It's like, buddy, I don't think that had anything to do with him maybe not performing in the plus, which he did have a point per game again this year in the

playoff. I'm going to steal that golden night sword off their mascot and behead them for trading us at four nations. He's representing Canada and talking about going to the United States to play hockey when we got a Stanley cup to it. Are you kidding me? Yeah. It's how do you feel about that? I think like Whit said, it's very, very normal for guys to ask around, how is it? This is, you're a crazy Leafs fan! Exactly, you see, he went from being happy for him and switched like that as soon as he heard of the conversation.

No, I'm not happy for him. Hey, you know who's not happy? If I saw him, I would give him a hug. I know that I would probably get tasered by his security guard, Rocket. But, ultimately, I gotta check in with all my sources because I thought maybe there was a chance he was coming back. And technically I was right.

He did re-sign with the Leafs. It just so happens it was a sign and trade. So, that kinda sucks. Hey, I thought Vegas, because we all know Vegas is cutthroat. I thought they were gonna sign him and then not trade for them. So they Hey, I thought Vegas, cause we all know Vegas is cutthroat. I thought they were going to sign them and then not trade for them. So they'd be over the cap. Cat is a, that is one bit of Tom Fulary.

I never predicted we've now lost wit again for the 17th time he's probably bringing his dog out. That was barking in his backswing. His whole, his whole family's at my house, his entire family. Could you call Squanto in the room so I can ask him about this Marner situation? No, he's in the pool, dude. He didn't get out of there. Just ask him, say, can you go out and just say, Hey, Squanto, Biz wants to know,

what do you think about the Marner move? Cause I don't trust what Whit said. Yeah, Whit didn't even, Whit didn't even, I bet Whit tells him like the Leafs aren't even in the league anymore Well, then he's yeah, he's he's back stabbing you somehow and you you need squanto as much as he's saying squanto Hasn't brought you anything. He's he's the guy Do you think that? automatically, um Like without the pressure of Toronto and kind of having that being held against him the pressure of Toronto and kind of having that being held against him for a while now. I feel like that's something that's being used against him. So ultimately it becomes something

that's in the back of your head when you're getting suited up and ready for the postseason. Do you think that he will have more playoff success in Vegas as a result of not being under that Toronto media fire? I think, I think Vegas is one of those towns, like the, one of those teams that kind of, you play bigger than you are, you're, you know, you're not, you know, going into a game like, all right, I got to scale it up, like, you're going to get dragged in the muck, like even, look at Jack Eichel's game, the way that it's, you know, progressed, he's become this two way player. That's amazing. Um, where in Buffalo, obviously he was amazing, but he was more of like just an offensive guy. So I feel like Vegas is one of those teams like Florida that, you know, guys

get there and they play bigger than they are. They do, they do things that they haven't been doing. So I think his game is going to be unbelievable and everyone in Toronto is going to be like, Oh my God, what are we missing here? Like we really just let this guy walk. Um, and then not reading them. Yeah, that's true. We did, he did resign, which is a good guy move.

That's right. That's right. He know what if I, I, I like your point though. And I feel that him getting one year under chief was huge, not only for like his development as a player, even more, more so on the defensive side of the puck, where he's already good at, um, in the regular season, but, but, uh, uh, Cassidy, he's known to be hard on his players and very demanding on both sides of the puck.

So you're going to be going to a similar coach that have a lot of the same philosophies and I would say even more so then chief, he's a little bit more hot and cold and, and where's his heart more on his sleeve on the bench. Like Cassidy is not shy. If you're not playing good, doesn't matter who the fuck you are. Like he'll give you the eye roll and the motherfucker on the bench. When the camera's on him, like he doesn't give a shit. So, um, yeah, was he, um, was Cassidy, uh, on the four nations coaching stuff?

Yeah, he was. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think it was him. Talk it Cooper, the bore. Um, Maurice had to been Maurice. I think he was in there. I mean, G could probably hit us up in the chat.

No, it was, uh, was Cassidy on the, uh, four nations coaching stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Because remember he watched, uh, Theodore break his wrist and we were saying like, he's probably like, Oh, fuck this tournament stinks. Yeah. But then he was talking to him. He was talking to Marzzi and he was like, Hey, come on over.

Tampering, tampering. I'm going after pinky in the brain. You look at when he set up that game winning goal, right? Like he would, that was him who set it up, right? Yeah. He set up the one to McDavid. He pulled it off the wall. He got in on the four check.

He's playing like he played a little bit of a different style there. Like he's got it in him to, you know, have that dog in him. So I think, I think it's going to be a, a player that's really, really messed in Toronto. Like what kind? Like Chihuahua? Are we talking Rottweiler? What are we talking about here?

Buddy being out of Toronto, he's going to light it up. He's going to absolutely light it up in Toronto too. Playoffs too. Playoffs too. He's going to light it up. You're going to light it up. Con Smythe. Yeah.

The pressure in Toronto. You guys are done. You guys will never do anything. It's just too much. It's too ridiculous. Grinnelli saying it's Phil Kessel 2.0. He's just going to be just raking in the cups. And I wouldn't be surprised.

Phil wasn't in Toronto, was he? But you know, Phil Kessel went to, you mean in Pittsburgh. He was in Toronto. Yes, he was, but in Pittsburgh, but in Pittsburgh with, he wasn't being paid like the second or third guy he was being paid. Phil Kessel at that time was probably like the fourth, fifth guy. And that's in my opinion, why he had so much success. Okay, dude, it doesn't matter about money, Biz.

It does, but he has Eichel. He's got Stone. He doesn't have to be the guy still, but he's just an insane piece as the third piece. And I mean, I don't know about you guys. If you could take right now Eichel or Matthews, who are you taking? I'm taking Ikel.

Yeah. I just, I think that you just have to kind of delegate to the guy who's won a cup and he should have even just that though. I let his, he should have won the con smite. Marchesil got it because of his clutch goal scoring. But I mean, you talk 200 foot game and what he did throughout that run. I think a lot of people were surprised that it wasn't Eichel and it was Marchesil. That I think that just based on that run and seeing somebody prove it,

especially at his cap hit, which I believe he only makes 10 million right now. He has one year left at 10 million. So as of right now, I believe Eichel can sign an extension. Yeah. So McDavid, Eichel and Kaprizov could have signed by now. So obviously for the, for the Oilers fans and we can move over to Edmonton in what, in what is, is kind of like, I'd say a rattling, rattling couple of weeks here. Right?

Like you get drummed in the finals. Well, wait, we said we were going to wait to talk about the losers of free agency till after the interview. I think that if I don't think they're, I don't think they're one of the big, well, I know that the Leafs are higher up on the, on the, in the wind column for first signings and free agency than the fucking Edmonton Oilers are when you're paying the fuck a new core for whatever it is over 50% they're the new core for everybody loved that comment from me by the way. I don't think it was everybody all the Leafs fans. No, I think that we've never gotten more fucking engagement on a clip in our entire existence of a fucking podcast.

So I would have already was scratching his butt in Buffalo. That was a lot of engagement on that one. Biz, let me tell you something. Like, I am kind of with, like, I'm not loving it right now. When McDavid resigns, dude, I'm fine. That's it. Until he resigns, there's worry, little bit of panic.

Once he resigns, we're fine. Because it's different. Leon and McDavid, if they're a part of my Core Four, buddy, they literally take shits on your old Core Four and then just swipe them away, and then make somebody else clean up the shit too. I don't care if you're calling us the Core Four if Leon and McDavid are two of the Core Four,

because that is so much different than anything you have. And you know it, you know it. we're talking playoff success and proving it now the Bouchard contract all right I don't do we want to go to Edmonton yet no we'll go there now since we've already in the room okay okay okay we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in the we're in What type of internet do you have? We're going to get you Starlink. We're going to send fucking Elon over to your place. Um, are you on the worried or worried meter? Where are you with the McDavid signing? Like, are you more on the worried or worried? I know I say the word incorrect,

but I don't know which one the correct enunciation or my enunciation would be more or less. Worried is like you're really worried. Worried, you're like, ah, I'm a little worried. And the first one is how I say it that's incorrect, right? Yeah, you say it with an A. So I'm worried. You're just right? Yeah, you say it with an A. So I'm worried. You're just worried.

OK, you're worried. I'm not worried. That's good to know. That's good to know. I just had to clarify. If he doesn't come back, is it the end of the franchise? Some may say yes. The Bouchard contract, like people are all over that one too.

Third in the league in giveaways. Like bro, he has the puck a lot. He's gonna give it away. Keith, you're a defenseman. Biz I know is down on that deal. Biz is down on that deal. It's like, that's what they get paid. Dobson got nine and a half.

He's better than Dobson. He got a million more per year. And according to Elliott, it was all based on the fact that they were gonna offer sheet him. was going to so then they find that out Yeah, and then they were gonna offer sheet him so they had to they had to pay him and and then I visitors I got visitors now. Who's there my dad running through grabbing a jacket Ask him what he thinks of the car come on. Yeah grabbing a jacket.

Ask him what he thinks of the. Come on. Yeah. Come here. What's what's your question for him? What's he think of the Bouchard deal? Oh no, his internet lost the big fucking internet's down again. God damn it.

We can't win today. Can we do this? Just like the oilers and pre-agency. I have no internet. The internet's that's unbelievable timing. BDS. There is unbelievable timing right there that the internet cuts out. What do you make of Wits internet? What's going on with the internet in the house? I'm telling you, the Pink Whitney sales are down so... You were using the funding from the sales in

Canada to supply the internet in the Whitney household so it's not working out. What do you make of the Oilers off season so far, and what do you make of the Evan Bouchard contract? Didn't even know what he signed for. What did he sign for, it came out today? 10 and a half for four years. He deserves it. Donald Nress gets that type of money,

then yes, he definitely deserves that money. And I'm not loyal to the Oil? Both Whitney's sitting here are loyal to the Oil biz. But I'm a Bruins fan first and foremost. Oh, and he's a huge... Why don't you tell us what you think of the Bruins? I love the players and the management is ridiculous. So we're going PG version. Yeah, you can elaborate.

I can elaborate. I will elaborate that. Oh, man. Let it loose, Dan. They had... Alright. 1975, they bought the team for $12 million. They have won Stanley cup. They had one time they had four lines and they won the Stanley cup. And that was not the current GM. That was Peter Sciarelli. They got the job done since then in the play in the Stanley cup.

They've been to three, three, five, four, no, five total finals and they haven't won them and they never had four lines. And once Charlie has left, they have a guy there now. Not a fan, not a fan. Liked him as a player president, not a fan as a management guy. Liked him as a player. People, people do say though, if Sherelly wouldn't have ended up in Edmonton, they would have also won another Stanley Cup.

So you were loyal to the oil with that guy. I just said, can I ask you a question? Pizz? I was just wondering how can a guy who never played for the squad talk about his team and the love he has? What's, what is that all about? Uh, well, I did technically play for them. I was, They put a waiver claim in for me. No, did you skate under the Toronto umbrella at all? No. Not getting picked up in the waivers. Get some team snatched you because they wanted

you so badly. Did you ever put on a Maple Leaf jersey? No, I was cock blocked by the Arizona Coyotes. Okay, so you answered my question. Thank you. I have to go because I have a coat. Listen to these dogs, listen to Big Dan stuffing you. I'm telling you guys, I'm telling you, this is a wild show. Yes, I love you, man.

So it's funny, is he getting, are you getting your ammo from him about criticizing me about not playing for the Leafs, therefore I can't root for him? He's an avid listener. No, you talk about the Leafs like you are a member of the Leafs. But listen, maybe... I am. I'm a fucking ambassador. Dude, the Oilers?

Connor Brown losing him sucks. I'm not going to pay him what he got from Jersey. Arvidson? Kind of love that move, get rid of him. Apparently, Elliott, like, it was the article saying that he, the, what's the, Jesus Christ, I'm drawing a plank. Bowman went to all the guys and was like, hey, what's your, what are you thinking here about no trades? He went to Nurse, Nurse is like, I'm not waiving my no trade. So the fact that they're trying to think of moving him,

I like that, but until he's off the books, I mean, that's kind of, that's a horrible contract, man. I don't know what you want me to say. Now, if McDavid leaves, it's done. It's over. Like honest to God, if he ends up some, like whether it's halfway through this year after next year, like what would they do? Would you, if Connor does leave and he lets them know when they're able to get a

return for him, would you then go to dry sidle and just say hey like would because imagine the hall you can get for both guys and just Maybe start fresh maybe even No, but you'd have to legit you'd have to get like like a celebrini. It would have to be like a Like a I'm not saying San Jose, right? I'm saying like a player that is going to be a superstar. Right. Like how you're going to lose the trade no matter what. If it's not something like a a 19 year old first overall pick that's coming. But then what team would do that?

Right. Because they if they were that bad to have that high of a pick, they wouldn't be ready to win anyway. So it wouldn't go there. So I have that's the thing. Like who would even, who, like, you know, you know, any different moves would have to be made around the league for him to go somewhere else? That'd be like a four-way trade or something. Now we have spent a lot of time on Edmonton. Can we mention a few other big winners before we throw it off to Schaeffer? Who's a big winner for you? Well I don't want to go for... There's a lot of big losers this year. That's my... My point is on this year, I don't know how many teams got that much better. Honestly like... Well I mean people are gonna be pulling out their fucking

hair or punching their steering wheel. I thought the Leafs did an excellent job of bringing, I thought they bring in JT back for that discount credit to him for setting the tone. Um, then the next Domino falls with nice signing, which I thought that there was no fucking way they were getting them in under nine or under eight, excuse me. Um, and then. Waa in that trade, the sign in trade. Yeah. And, and it was funny to hear that I thought I heard rumblings about the

four year deal for Marner and then in the press conference, um, what's his name? No, I can't fucking think of it. McCrimmon said that it was always eight years. So having that leverage, like we talked about with Elliot and the fact that that's pretty much the only time you ever do a sign in trade is where when you want that extra year. Uh, so yeah, that was, uh, that was a huge return. And then Michelli who I know you're losing Marner, but, uh, I've watched him play with the coyotes. He's an exceptional playmaker off the rush.

He hits those little pockets. Yes. He's a little bit undersized and doesn't have any type of playoff experience, but I am very excited to see what he can do in that position with Matthews off the hop. So you talk about, Oh, how are we going to replace Marner's hundred points? Well, you don't do it with one individual. You do it with a collective effort. And that was the one question you had last podcast. Well, between wah and, and Michelli, you do that. And as your father, the genius just talked about, you need four lines. You need to snap the money around and you need to have all systems go. So, uh, for me, the only real thing that is probably a question mark is who's

your true second line center as 27 other teams in the league need one. They still got a little bit of money to play with and they got a little bit of a situation to address but all things considered I thought it was a great off season so far for the Toronto Maple Leafs. I thought they did an excellent, excellent job, leaving a little bit of room for error and to plug a hole in as the season progresses, yet still bringing back a strong foundation where we know they're going to finish top three in the Atlantic. They're finishing top three in Atlantic all day long with their fucking eyes closed. Ah, yes, they are. Yes, they are confident, pretty confident in that Gee, can you can you look up? I don't ever remember

When the rights are traded for a player before July 1st so that that team can sign him before July 1st and give him the eighth Year exactly what happened with Marner in Vegas I don't ever remember anything other than draft picks going back like it being Nicholas. Wow, that's amazing Like dude, that's I mean, so they did need to shed salary was one thing, but with Petro going on LTIR, which we'll get to it a little bit, like that's just devastating. That's a huge loss for them. Like one of the best, like to me, if you, to me, maybe even a little bit like Echblad, it would be like, like, like Florida losing Echblad, it would be like like like Florida losing Echblad just a nasty big player stick on pock like physical a

Piece of shit to play against and has an upside offensively to his game. So I Don't know to answer your question with I don't It's just it was nice It was nice to get an actual player for a guy you were losing anyways and not, you know, a third round pick or something like that's a nice move. You know what team actually looking up here that I do like that their offseason so far is Utah. Utah has like a pretty sick buzz around them. I think they obviously they come up with a new nickname. They got the jerseys. They got their redoing the arena over the summer.

I think over the next three summers, Ryan Smith told us. But dude, Nate Schmidt was money. And yes, it was Florida's system. But dude, you give him a three year deal. And then was it Brandon Tanev went there as well, like, along with like getting Paterka not having to trade the fourth overall pick in the draft. It seems like they are on the rise. That is a team that is exciting to watch. Clayton Keller keeps getting better. Utah's won. I hate to say it about Pasha the Devils. I kind of like what they're doing. Because even though I said I wouldn't want ... What? Go ahead. No, I said that Jake Allen signing.

I know. That was, in my opinion, as far as AAV even more shocking than than the one in Carolina with Stankhoven. He I feel he took over the net a little bit last year at 1.8. Why don't we get our delusional Devils insider to come on but we got to run the disclaimer. Run the fucking disclaimer please. Warning the following statements are about to be made by a deranged Devil's fan. The views expressed are his and his only. Take everything you hear with a grain of salt because remember, he is a deranged Devil's fan.

What's up boys? What's up? Buddy, you're buzzing right now. Like I know you love what's happening in Jersey. I saw you on a date on Instagram. So everything's good in your world. He was at Stampede with his girl. He's doing all his girlfriend stuff.

Oh, he was holding hands. They were doing a pose with the bull. Yeah, they rode the bull at the bar together. Like they ended up, I think he came during it. Are you done with it? Face to face. Are you done? I got no internet.

I'm done. I'm completely done. He was docking her while riding the bull. Jesus Christ. Anyways, let's get back on track here. I wouldn't say that I love what the Devils have done thus far because I still think their biggest moves have yet to come, but I really think that like, Vixie's sort of done what needed to be done. Like he brought back Alan on, like you said, like the AAV on that deal is

ridiculous. Like Alan played, you know, a great chunk of games and Markstrom got hurt. I think he was like the third or fourth best goal in the league in terms of under the hood stats. So to bring him back, like I heard like he had offers for four or five million per year. So to bring him back for that low AAVs is great business. I think like the retooling of the bottom six, like Connor Brown, I know what you said, you don't like the deal, but I think that's the exact kind of player

the devil's in need of. But I love the player. Yeah. You think he turned down four or $5 million a year to stay in Jersey for 1.8? Yeah, he loves the Sopranos. Well, it could have been a two year deal though. Yeah, they obviously weren't five year deals. Do you like Carlos Bakery a lot or something?

I think he sees a path to winning or at least going deep. And maybe those teams that offered four or five or just shit, shit hole teams, you know? So, uh, you know, any who I think, yeah, Connor Brown speed, you know, versatile player plays it, you know, relatively physical brand of hockey. The bottom six was a complete black hole. So I think that was nice. I love the Dajanov signing.

I think low risk, uh, you know, that's a guy that can play up and down the lineup. Yeah. I know you mentioned you love his game nice score and touch the Devils need more score and touch whether it's on Jack's wing or in the bottom six so great ad but the reason I'm not ready to say that you know I love their offseason is because they got to get rid of Palat that's six million there's a lot of rumors that Dougie Hamilton's names and trade rumors they still need a top six winger bottom three C. So I still think there's some major, major moves coming for Fitzy. Um, yeah, I think they need a three C top six winger.

How they get there. I think ultimately we'll have to see Palat get, you know, traded out, but yeah, I think the work for them is just beginning, so I'm not ready to kind of give a grade for their off season quite yet. Three years ago when Palat signed there, you were like, this guy's gonna, he's coming from Tampa. He's going to get us to where we want to be. He's going to bring the wind in touch. And now you want the man to get bought out.

I did say all that. And I, and I still think he's, you know, I think he's a really good piece in the sense of what he brings, like winning battles and obviously in the room, but the guys just lost a step. He's been battled, like, you know, he played a hard game his whole career and he's just not worth 6 million bucks. I think injuries have like. Crushed.

It was almost a contract at the time. You might, you might think, ah, this might come, you know, back and bite them a little bit, but it's, it's just happened a little quicker than you maybe imagined, but he's been injured a lot, like he's been injured a lot as does the whole team. I think if the team had been healthy the last two years, that's like two extra cup runs he would have contributed to. And overall the deal would have looked better than, you know, or at least deeper playoff

runs. I mean, cause they missed last two last year, this year they were so banged up. They won one game. So yeah, I mean, listen, I think a lot was overall a net benefit, but I don't think they'll have a problem finding a team, you know, like an Anaheim or a San Jose to bring in or Chicago even bringing that veteran leadership. Who do you view the powerhouses in the Metro? Carolina is at the top now. Where do you view them finishing second or third, the Metro next season?

Number two right now, if they do make some big swings and get a legitimate top six winger in a third line center, I could be see them finishing on top of Carolina, but right now Washington was a fluke this year. Yeah. Washington as much as I love their team. Yeah. They're, they were on a PDO bender. They were a fluke. They are, they were not as good as they showed that for what's a PDO.

PDO is a combination under the hood, under the hood shooting percentage combined with save percentage. Same thing with the Canucks the year prior on a PDO bender, just unsustainable. Every shot's going in and you're getting every save. Just historically those numbers are not sustainable. They always kind of come down to the median. So I don't know. That's what they said about us in the Arizona

Yans and we went three years in a row. And then that every year they had us ranked 14th or 15th in the Western conference. We made playoffs all of those years. And the last year, the third year, that's when we went to the Conference Finals. So you could shove that PDO right up your five hole, my friend.

Pasha, I know you're happy with the Devils. You're not in love with the offseason, but I'd like to hear your opinion on the Rangers, because not even you can say it's been a disaster for them. They had a hell of a deal getting what they did for Keandre Miller. The Will Cooley contract, that was money. I thought, bringing him back, that's a legit move.

Taylor Radish, I think the Rangers are figuring it out a little bit, Pasha, and you know it, don't you? I think all those moves you mentioned are solid moves. I think Drury's done some tidy business, but. And Gavrikov, I didn't even mention Gavrikov. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think Gavrikov is a nice ad, but listen, this is, that's a team that needs a lot

more than just a few sort of solid moves. Like I give all those moves kind of like a B, B plus, like, but this team needs a lot more than a few kind of B, B plus moves, but yes, I will say compared to the usual moves that Drury makes good moves. And I've said, I think I said it on game notes. I don't know what Drury has on Pat Verbeek to get him to be taking contracts like Truba and Krider and getting extra assets for instead of having to pay to get those off the books, but that's tidy work to kind of get rid of those.

You think he's got dirt on him? I mean, he must. I don't know why Verbeek's just throwing him all these bones, taking on these bad contracts. He did hire Cronin. There you go. Illuminati. Pasha. You guys are the ones who said that he shouldn't be there.

Pasha. Oh, we're getting blamed now. Do you think? I don't even know who the guy was until I saw his blood pressure on the bench. Now that they don't, that the guys don't have to do a testing for training camp, do you think that hurts or helps Jack Hughes? Cause the whole talk you were saying earlier is he needs to get in the gym. He needs to be working out.

But do you think that it's going to be more ice time for him instead of a hangout with Joey Swole? I think that's irrelevant. I think Fitz, he made it very clear in his presser that, Hey, we need Moada Jack in terms of putting on muscle. I think he said that publicly to try to light up a fire under his ass. And I actually just saw a photo of Hughes, someone retweeted on Instagram of him just the other day in the summer and he's looking like he's put on some bulk.

Everybody looks more Jacked with a fucking tan. Mitch Marner looked like he was 220. You get a filter and all of a sudden, oh, a Jack filter, he's putting on a Jack filter. Jack might have a sick new filter on the newest iPhone that only he has that you can add a little definition to. Fucking Marner looked like C-Bomb at the fucking Vegas press conference. For crying out loud. Let's answer your question, Hans.

I don't think it changes. I think Jack knows he's got a ball whether or not there's testing or not. All right, hey, I'll tell you, you could say right now, no matter what, the devils are getting second in the metro. Okay, I I think the jury We'll see what happens there. But a team who's also done some work Quickly is the New York Islanders guys. I love the drew in signing right they bring him over

They get Schaefer in the first round they get Eklund in the first round. The other defenseman, I can't think of, is Atchison, maybe, first round. It's been a very solid, quick moving off season for Matthew Darsh. And with that, I think it's time to talk to Matthew Schaeffer. This kid, I mean, he's kind of like a cartoon character. Like, he's a 17-year-old that just literally dum dumbed Biz for 50 minutes coming up. So check this out Biz do you have any final words before people? I just got a text from Jeff Korsakis a guy used to play junior hockey with an own sound This guy would get the worst lace bite. He had the graph skates

Oh, yeah His his ankles were like the size of my knees for how bad they were But he just sent me a photo and he's going to the Coldplay concert with Schaeffer, Schaeffer daddy. And that's why he was all, cause this guy probably made fun of you his whole career. Oh yeah. He goes, how was Schaeffer today? Just headed to Coldplay concert with him. I go, absolute legend.

Legend. He sends me a picture. I go, I just got carved for 40 minutes during the interview. That's it was, he might have a Netflix special by the time this one comes out, but just talk about a kid. Like I said, the same thing about Sellebrini, even Misa, like these kids are like beyond their years now and just, I felt like I was talking to a 30 year old grownup, the sense that I got, and, and even though he only played half a season, you know exactly why the Islanders picked them first overall. If I had him in that meeting, if this was a meeting to draft him, I'd be taking

him first overall and he put me in a locker just like the Florida Panthers did. And majority of fan bases out there in the NHL after my Leafs got dummy. So great interview. Thanks to G for setting this one up and I can't wait for you guys to hear it. And this kid's going to be an absolute stud guys. Let's talk about rose sparks, a two in one prescription treatment for stronger, harder erections. Rose sparks dissolves under your tongue,

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That's right, Keith. Number one overall selection in the NHL draft. The newest member of the New York Islanders, Matthew Schaefer. What is going on, bud? Not much. I'm excited to do this with you boys. I've been I saw you guys just did Mesa and stuff. So, uh, that was pretty funny. I biz was, you know, same old biz. So excited to do this boys. Thanks for having me.

I met him in the tunnel down there in Florida when they brought the four top dogs in. And, uh, I think you were the only one who didn't chert my sunburn. So of course we wanted to get you on. I said, oh, they covered it up a bit because I I was like, that's a lot of makeup, right? And you're like, Hey, I was on the beach all day today. I'm moving, just laying down. A little different than the Arizona sun with the, with the moisture. So it, uh, yeah, it got me pretty good buddy.

But, uh, I'm sure your last few weeks here have been a world win. Uh, how, how was it though, getting experienced that Stanley cup final and getting to see that action live? And I mean, how fast those guys are and how well built they are. Yeah, that's pretty sweet. Uh, I've never seen, I've only seen Toronto cause back at home, Biz, I know you're a big Toronto guy. Um, but yeah, I, this is the first time I've been, obviously I've

been to Buffalo too, close by, but Ford is another, another world out there. It's sweet. We, uh, like it's electric there. Like the fans love it. The boys were flying out there that night. There is a couple scrums, but I mean, they're a solid team. I mean, we had, we had breakfast with Meyershi in the morning. So we were, we saw, we met all the guys on Florida and then we met, um, Connor

and all them, uh, and Edmonton. So it was pretty sweet. And just to see, like their mindset in the morning, like they're all smiling, the joke around there, they're so loose. And then obviously when game 10 comes there, they're pretty dialed in. So it's pretty cool to see. Hey, him talking about Florida like this, Zito might be making a trade here. This is the Panthers guy, Shafe.

Don't listen to him. I'm not even allowed anymore. I'm an Islander now. So I'm out of borders for life. So that's awesome. I knew you made it when I saw, was it, was it like summer Long Island bars that just had your Jersey hanging this past weekend? I'm like, oh shit, this kid's doing it.

The fans are awesome. They, yeah, like we, we had a scrimmage, we had some practices and the fans were coming out all the time. So I got to meet all them. They're amazing. I mean, I'd step on the ice and they're all cheering for me. And I remember in the scrimmage, I got hit and I fell and all the fans started booing the guy who hit me.

So, so, um, no, it's, it's sweet. Like the fans are awesome. Just from, that was my first time being on Long Island. So I have been to New York city before, but long Island's sweet. I want to go, I want to go golfing there. I heard all the golf courses and stuff are pretty sweet there in the Hampton. And so we're going to have to get Frankie Burelli to take you out. Have you been to Burelli's yet?

He'll stalk you. Frankie, Frankie, that's been his basement, like tying them up. Yeah. It's the, it's the perfect free game meal. If you want heartburn and eating Tums in between period, like tying them up. Yeah. It's the, it's the perfect free game meal. If you want heartburn and eating Tums in between period, right. Unbelievable pizza. I want to say the pizza maker has been there for 120 years. I think he's 160 years old.

He doesn't. Yeah. He sleeps in the oven. They don't, they obviously don't have it. This isn't known for pizza and stuff too, right? The pizza is there and then the bacon, egg and cheese. I heard it's all we had the one day we had pizza. It was, it was not so good.

It was good. That's awesome. How was development camp? I remember being so nervous going out there. Didn't really, I mean, you guys obviously know a little bit more than we do nowadays, but it's like, it was so nerve wracking. No, it was good. Like the draft is all good, but it's good to be over in a way too,

cause there's just so much media and it's good to get on the ice. Obviously, you know, they're picking you cause you know, the person and player you are and the media and all that's really good, but it's good to get on the ice and you know, play the game too, right? So, you know, it was a busy couple of days. We played at Riviera golf course. So that was, well, yeah. So you guys talking to me about that. I want to hear my story again. Let's hear it. It's the best top three worst story.

It's a go to a, we don't got much time. Biz will be here for hours. Well, a former boxer was standing there and Biz teed off. Yeah. That's, that's the cliff. Whoa, I hit the fairway. I hit the fairway. I hit the one probably for once with a world champion boxer watching me. I don't know if you've ever had any celebrities watching you tee off, but it is a bit nerve wracking.

First, first told jitters are like the worst thing ever. You, you come up, you hit in the range again, fired up first hole. I was the first guy up. So we're, we're golfing and they go on deck. And after you shave, I go, oh shit. They don't know what are we going to do here, boys? So then I go up and I'm like, Hey, I guess I'll take one for the team. I'm doing a couple of practice swings, feeling pretty nice.

And then I smoke it, but then it's going, but then it starts going right. And like, it's pretty wide. It's pretty wide on the fairway, it wasn't as bad Mises was terrible he no set it far right that's why you went second oh yeah it was all mad drive no but hey this guy's the definition of a show a child guy isn't he's showing them doesn't it actually we saw we were um, I don't know if it was on air, we're talking about the videos the NHL did leading up to the draft and it was like 10 minutes. Yours, it showed a lot of you with Mark Giordano, right? Yeah. So how did you get, how did you get to know

him? Like most people remember and understand how good that guy was. He won a Norris trophy and he's like 35, but what was your connection and what have you guys been working on? Yeah. So I'm working out at Brian Marshall. He's in Mississauga. So, you know, Monahan, Lodden, all those guys work out there, Drysdale. So Mark Giordano used to work out there. And then he promised Marshy that he would be the D coach for the guys. So I'm working with him all summer. We got, it's awesome. Like everything's there. Obviously you got all the show guys and going up against them is pretty like key for me.

If obviously I want to be playing next, next season. So to go up against guys like that, and then have Gio as a D coach and Gio didn't get drafted in the OHLRNHL. So he knows what it takes and like all the work that he had to put in to get to where he was. I mean, like you said, he won a Norris, but like nothing was given to him. And that's what you need. And like to have a guy like that, that you can rely

on and ask stuff is amazing. He's a sick puppy, like in the gym too. You're probably still chucking the weights around, isn't he? Oh, a hundred percent. He was, so I was talking to Marci, like my training, he's like, yeah, like when he was in the gym, he was dialed, like it was him on him, like they're two, like just studs in the gym and they work hard, like the bike and everything.

They're, they're, they're athletes, but they're, they're, they're strong. Yeah. It must be nice for you guys. I know when we were growing up, me and Whit, there wasn't a ton of guys around the Boston area and the NHL, but we had guys like Mike Greer, Jay Pandolfo, and you see them in the weight room and it's like, wow, this is a job. Like these guys are treating it like a job. So I'm sure, especially for you at such a young age to be around, that must be huge. Yeah, a hundred percent.

They're, I mean, the day to day routine, I mean, all the guys are great guys too. They care for you and you know, to go on and off the ice with them and, you know, go for breakfast or lunch and just be with them. And it goes a long way. And especially as a young kid, having those guys to rely on, off the ice with them and, you know, go for breakfast or lunch and just be with them. And it goes a long way. And especially as a young kid, having those guys to rely on, it's pretty cool. You, uh, I read that you wanted to emulate your game off or you look up to Kale McCarr, obviously that's kind of the number one guy in the NHL. Uh, one thing that's been talked about a lot is your skating ability.

Now, what did you do growing up differently? Were you able to get access to like unreal power skating coaches? Like what type of work did you put in to get your stride and your skating to where it is? Yeah, I'll, uh, I'll tell you a story. So at my high school that I went to here in Stony Creek, there's a sports camp that we do every year. And all the kids, when we were younger,

we'd go power skating and go like, you know, six times a week, like just all on the ACE. And my dad was like, no, like I want you to be a kid and go to the sports captain. You know, I'm with all my buddies. Like I want you to be with your buddies and they're like, you know, hockey can wait. I mean, you gotta, you gotta be a kid too. So I, I wouldn't do much power skating or anything.

I, I just be on the rollerblades a lot. I'd be skating like when I'm skating, but honestly, I think just over time from like rollerblading, I'd meet my brother would rollerblade all the time and shoot him. My mom and that and she would put on the pad. So they're honestly, I think just from overtime, like being on the rollers and going on the ice, you just become better skater and you work on things like, you know, I'm doing Mohawks and my rollerblades like up and down and just doing a lot.

So I think over time it's just practice and then just kind of translated. But I didn't do a crazy amount of power skating or anything, probably similar to every other kid a couple of times a week, not much, but yeah. Just one of my roller blades. Just got them Amazon quick delivery. Biz is going to have ones with the stopper on the back though. He's going to be like, yeah.

Oh, no, I'm going to watch that. Biz, do you rollerblade much or no? No, no, I might actually, now I'm going to Vancouver. I'm leaving in a couple of days. So they got the seawall there. I'm going to be fucking rollerblading all summer. I might switch from the ball hockey to the roller division for check up. Yeah.

I played a, I played a house league roller hockey league. It's pre-farm. Like still right now? Still. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I played a house league roller hockey league. It's pretty fun. Still right now? Still? Yeah. No. So I played a couple of years ago with my buddies, but then it got so busy that there was just no time.

But we'd play it every Monday night. It was a miss. It's fun. You go, you put on the rollers, and it's a little tough to stop, though. But the biscuit's so light, so you just rip it. Oh, yeah. It's fun. It's good. Shoot to stop though, but like the biscuits, like so light. So you just rip it. Oh yeah. It's fine.

It's shoot BBs. Yeah. G's saying on the chat here that I think roller hockey is enormous in Long Island. So that that that's going to make the fans like you even more. Yeah. So, yeah, I know I'm, I mean, roller was, roller was good. I mean, I honestly love to play it because I mean, it's still hockey, but it's also like a break too from on the ice. So it was fun. I played with a couple of buddies.

So that's actually interesting to hear your dad, like, you know, there's a lot of kids and I understand why people do it where they're playing hockey all summer from seven years old. But your dad was like, Hey, be a kid, play, I'm guessing you played other sports if you're doing the sports camp and stuff. Yeah, no, I think my dad learned with my brother as well. Cause my brother's nine and a half years older than me and he played in the OHL for five years with Niagara. So I think he got to learn through my brother and maybe it was not as hard on me as my brother.

And my brother probably did a little bit more than me. And then my dad's like, you also got to be a kid. And he's, I mean, he, I think you learned through my brother where he could, you know, translate to me and he wasn't as much, you know, like being kid to the hockey will come and you know, there's a lot more to life than just hockey. Right. So you must've been leaning on your brother a lot, even, you know, going to the OHL and growing up a nine year difference is a big different, he was

probably almost like an uncle to you. Yeah. Yeah. He's like a second dad now. He, him and my dad, like before games all we give him the pregame chats. And now my brother's getting there. He's like, Hey, block some shots. He'll do this. Cause he was the big, he's a PK specialist back in the day.

So, um, I remember saying in an interview, I was like, yeah. Um, you know, I got to look up to my brother. He taught me how to block some shots and my brother is loving it too. He's like, I mean, I give it to him, but no, he's, I mean, he's helped me so much. Obviously I used to love going to the OHL games. I used to think I was the man, like with my brother playing on the team and it was pretty cool. And I think even back then I was like, the OHL is the way to go.

Cause my brother played there and I looked up to him. So yeah, it was pretty cool to experience him going through it and then, and then me to go through it. So yeah. Yans block one shot in his NHL career and he almost fist fought a teammate in the parking lot after the game. So that was the last of him and Boyd Gordon. Gordon was doing it 20 times a game.

They pay the goalies very well. So let the goalies, I never asked the goalies to play the power play for me. So I never blocked that shot. So you never blocked shots. It's wise. That's wise. I guess you guys weren't very much friends at all then. Goalies don't like you.

No, no. Hated me. Brasgala, he can't go to Russia. Brasgala has a fake block, but like slide too far and be like, Oh, he need eat it. So then he's going into ports. You know, this time he knows. He knows. I hope you didn't say that.

You're the only your brother here. This. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. You might have to punch you too. So, hey, this season it was, um, cause I'd heard a lot about you kind of going into the year, right? When you start hearing about who's going to possibly number one, and then all of a sudden like the injuries mount up and world juniors happens, the team looks so different once you got hurt. How tough was that for you? Like, was there worry like, man, I might not go first overall.

Was it more just this sucks? I'm not playing right now because it had to affect you mentally, not just physically. Yeah. You know, no hockey player doesn't like to watch the game and like right after it happened. I mean, obviously I think the thing that happened. Sorry. Explain the injury. Yeah. So, well, at the start of the season, I had mono right away. So I didn't start the season off

till, I want to say October. So that was kind of the first bump. And then I, and then in the season I got to play, I played 17 games in the OHL and then there was a couple of top prospect games and then we're at the world juniors and I played the first game versus Finland and then versus Latvia. I ran, I went down the ice, got the puck and I smoked the post. So basically every go to question is, did you see the post? And yeah, I saw the post, but what happened was, so I was, I was going pretty fast and I shot it and then I followed my rebound and then I didn't think I was in line with the post.

I thought I still had room and then I turned back and it was already pretty late because I was going so fast and then I hit the post and I didn't know what happened. I didn't really feel much. It was kind of just a big hit right in the post and then I got off and obviously some tears and it wasn't because I was in pain or anything. It was just because I couldn't play. It's the biggest tournament and you look up to playing in the world juniors and it wasn't because I was in pain or anything. It was just because I couldn't play. So it's the biggest tournament. You know, you look up to playing in the world juniors and it's on home

soil too, in front of all the fans and playing in game one versus Finland was like sick, it was, you know, the, one of the best games I probably played in and the fans are going crazy. It's, it's like a sold out NHL barn. It's your first time. That's probably the most fans I've played in front. So I mean, like to get injured in such a big, big event, a big tournament, I think it's more for the guys

too is, you know, we went to an army base and we were team bonding. We did so much stuff leading up where it's like, you know, you put so much time and effort and you become a family and then, you know, to get injured, you want to be there for the guys. And you know, after that, I had the option if I wanted to go home and get surgery or do it there, and I want to do it there so I could stay with the guys, um, just to be there. I mean, obviously I was more a lineup guy then when I was off or, you know, giving guys taps on the back and, you know, doing lineups and trying to get them fired up.

I mean, we, we, we put on a song before we go out and me and Gibby Gibson, we'd, uh, we'd like dance out. And so then like after that I'd be in Gibby Gibson, we'd like dance out. So then like after that I'd be in the sling and I'd be dancing out with them. So, um, yeah, I think just, you know, being able to get to surgery there and then like stay with the guys was a big one for me. Cause you know, I would have wanted to go home. It would have been worse, right? So to be around the guys, I mean, they've helped me a lot and you know, I tried to

help in any way possible for them. So, but I got it. So So, did you think you'd still be going one? You know because like you missed that much time. Like I think they've seen enough and they understood how good you were, but it had to be like I don't know where I'm going now, right? Yeah, no. Obviously we have such a talented draft class. I mean a lot of people could have won one for sure and there really wasn't much I could control. I just enjoy class. I mean, a lot of people could have won one for sure. And there really wasn't much I could control. I just enjoy it.

I mean, a lot, a lot of people get so, so in their head about it and it, and it hurts. I mean, you got to enjoy it. This is the first, well, this is going to be the only time I go through an NHL draft. And, you know, to go to the combine and, you know, do all these things, it's pretty fun. It's cool. And, you know, you look back on all like, you know, that VO2 sucked, but like you talked about it with the guys, like, you know, things like that. And, um, you know, at the comment, that was the last time we're going to see a lot of the guys cause then, you know, be

together too, cause they're all going their ways to teams. So honestly, I think the biggest thing was just enjoying it and, um, being there for my team at the time in Erie, we were in, you know, playoffs and all that. And I started to skate, but like I said, I wasn't able to be on the ice. So just be there for them. And then, you know, whatever, whatever is meant to happen, um, you know, would obviously happen on the road, but don't get too far ahead of yourself. Do you have a nickname? Like a, like a special one that guys give you?

Let me guess. Shave, shave daddy. Shave. Okay. Huh? No, no, it's not. You got model. Shave nasty. Um, I was going Huh? No, that's how you got model nasty.

Um, I was going to ask, yeah. Okay. So he got the past. All right. Yeah. Why don't fucking come in with you two guys like, Oh, I'm just going to shape. Like maybe he's got a fucking funny one. The guys gave him or something.

Hey, you meet a guy, Mike Smith. What's your nickname? Smitty. Oh, it should be the makeup monster. Isn't it? I got no, I got the fucking three. It should be the make out monster. Isn't Mono the make out? Three of you are chirping me for crying out loud. The make out monster from Mono. I got an 18 year old going first overall fucking chirping me.

All right, good. Thanks for coming on the podcast. 17 still busy. You should know that. Wow, you're still showy. Fuck this guy. This guy's all over you, busy. This guy is as young as you.

Busy. I'm not having a good time. You don't even know my age. Come on, Biz. This guy is not as used. Busy, I'm not having a good time. You don't even know my age. Come on, Biz. I come on this. Hey, this is Sho HL. I fucking love this kid. Hey, me, Sid and this guy, Biz,

these guys are slinging around with us. I think the game's changing here. You're very, you seem comfortable with the microphone. Hey, I mean, you guys make it easy too, obviously. We watch all these and you guys are just yourselves, which is good. It's like a lot of interviews are like super, you know, they get to the point and they're like, oh, like what kind of style do you play? Like things like that. You guys are like super open and it makes you.

We're teaching how to block shots. Exactly. Hey, you teach me to block shots. So I don't get into fights. So. Shavedaddy, I was going to ask uh, how do you deal with pressure or maybe it doesn't even feel like pressure to you. You go first overall, OHL draft to the Erie otters, obviously first overall

now playing world juniors, like, like, do you ever, do you ever feel like, you know, it's a lot or you just kind of enjoying every day by day? Yeah, no, obviously enjoy it day by day. Obviously it was giving me a lot of pressure, but zone it out. I think that's a big one that like guys do. You play the game cause you love it. Obviously it's a job, but you got to enjoy it as you do it too. Like, you know, playing in the world juniors, yeah, there can be pressure,

but it's like one of the biggest tournaments. It was on home soil. Like it's fun. And you know, going out and warmups, like all the fans around you, like this is not like, you're just excited. You're pumped to play. So, um, yeah, like obviously there's a lot of pressure but like you zone it out and you you know you play the game because you love it so uh if there's no fun in the game then like why why are

you playing the game right you gotta you gotta enjoy it and it becomes a battle and it comes a long year for sure and you know when you're you know hanging out with the guys going out for dinner doing a lot of things with the guys like that, that's like the things you remember as well. Did you always play D or did you move back? Yeah. Yeah. I was always D cause my brother was, my brother was a defenseman. So then honestly, he wore number 42 cause Danny Breyer. So there's a little story that I don't know if you guys saw, but my brother picked 40 cause Danny Breyer. And then I picked it cause my brother. And then I was the defenseman cause my brother was 48 cause Danny beer. And then I picked it cause my brother and then I would defend because my brother was. So, I mean, obviously I looked up to my brother quite a bit and you know, that

sense and, um, I mean, the number kept going and hopefully in New York, I can get that too. Did you get it at Dev Camp? No, I got 71 at Dev Camp. Pigeon. No, fifties are the pigeon numbers. Like me. I got 58. This was 50. And then let's hang took it.

Yeah. You probably took it because you were right. And then I got 67 and even bigger pigeon number, but I had a great training camp and I'm like, okay, I ended up making the team and I'm liking it. We go two games over the world premiere games overseas. I get back trainer goes, pick a new number. I go, I kind of like 67. He's like, nah, it looks too much like 87, like Crosby pick a new number pigeon.

I was saying, okay. I was, I was, that's my number story. My, uh, my boxing story. Did you have any conversations with, um, you know, the Islanders about what, you know, what next year is going to look like for you? You're getting ready for camp? Yeah, no, not really yet.

Obviously I think my goal is to play at the end of the summer and I think that's what they heard from me. Obviously all they said, just go home. We obviously had training camp. It was pretty busy. So I think the biggest thing is just for me is putting on weighted muscle because it's a lot bigger and stronger, faster guys. And especially if I want to play an extra ring, I'll be 18 by the time, but still

I'm still, you know, transforming my body. So there's still a lot of things that need to work on and, you know, we'll figure out more down the road, I think. I think soon we'll talk about it, but I think the biggest thing was just, you know, go home, relax and, you know, enjoy the summer, but to yourself and get a break, but, um, yeah, I think we'll, I think we'll talk soon. Are they having you eat more calories?

Like, what do you add like 35, 4,000 calories a day? I think they want me on the, the biz diet where you just like eat whatever. Oh, go. Yeah. Want to get out? Pussy. No, it's like, um, my trainer You want to get goat? Pussy? No. It's like, um, my trainer and I have a plan, a lot of protein.

I mean, I'm, I'm like mid to high one eighties, which is not bad. And I was, I was, I was like, is there a weight I should be at? He's like, it's more like how you feel like with like a lot of strength. So we'll see. We'll see what I get up to. So did you, uh, know prior that you were going one? I think everyone figured it, but like before they're saying number one selection, you know, all right, this is me right now. Yeah, I was hopeful, obviously.

Like I said, I had talked with them at the combine and I went for dinner. You know, I was hopeful. I mean, I felt good. So, you know, you didn't know for sure, but I was, I was, I was hopeful that, you know, it would be them because, you know, obviously didn't know for sure, but I was hopeful that, you know, it would be them. Because, you know, obviously they're number one and like I said, there's a lot of talented guys in the draft and you know, anyone could have went there and I think everyone can say this too, but you want to be that top guy obviously and you know, you want to be one

of the best. So obviously, you know, number one played a part, but like I said, there was really nothing you could control and you just had to enjoy it. So you mentioned you're 17. I just looked up September 5th birthday. Yeah. Is it, is it, if it was September 15th, would you be next year's draft? Yeah.

10 days away from, uh, the later draft. Oh, so you're actually a younger kid for your birth year and all these years going one overall. Wow. Yeah. And G told us or mentioned in the chat, like, I think he read something. You said Brady Martin's like the funniest guy, you know, Nashville's pick overall. How have you known him for so long?

You grew up playing together? Yeah. So he was in Waterloo. He lives in Waterloo, that area. So I'd played, I played some like spring tournaments with them. Obviously team Canada tournaments we played together, but like when you meet them, like that's what you're getting from them. He's just typical Brady Martin.

Like, Oh, he's hilarious. Like you, um, everyone would be like, Oh, is like this how he is all the time. Like, but like you'd be like, Oh, is he put on a show for the boys to make everyone laugh, but it's him, like that's him. And he's a great guy too. Like he's amazing. Like, Oh yeah. Like there's always a lot of stories of him just making us just laugh. And it was, it was pretty cool.

The setup they had for the draft too. They were at the, at the farm. They had a big TV up on the tractor. So that's like Brady Martin. That's where like his draft should have been. I mean, that's a him. So pump up the Preds fans for your boy. Like, what are they getting in his game?

Is he like just a rough farmer? Oh, yeah, he's a power forward that can put the puck in the back of the mat and can lay the body. Can he go out? Oh, of course. He can pull out any tricks. Can he milk a cow? Yeah, we can.

Yes. Yeah, I haven't been to the farm yet, but I want to go there soon. It's pretty sweet though, here. So I'm going to do some crazy amount of chickens too, Yaz. So we should do a country combine. You got to like bale hay, a two step with the cowboy boots on. Do it all. So was he a show HL guy too? Yeah.

I feel like the Ontario had a very strong draft. Like of the four guys that were down there in South Florida, there was three, three OHL guys. Or three Ontario guys. Excuse me. Yeah, it was so yeah, at the, at the game three was me, Misa and O'Brien and then it was Hagens. And then he and then Brady Martin played in the Sioux this year. So he was, he's a, he's a great guy though.

Like if you guys ever get to meet him, like he'll probably have you laughing. So we're going to get overran on this pod. Have you uh. Young bucks. All the, um, you know, you see it nowadays, especially now that, you know, you can go from the CHL to college.

Like, have you been getting phone calls from these college coaches that want you to go there next yearL to college. Like have you been getting phone calls from these college coaches that want you to go there next year? And like, how sick is that? Yeah, I think maybe more to my agent. I haven't heard much. I think my agent definitely got some calls and all that, but like I said, I think my goal is to play in the NHL next season.

So, you know, until if I have to worry about that, then I'll worry about it. But I think it's more just, you know, getting in the gym on the ice this summer. And then, you know, like I said, whatever, whatever is meant to happen, what happened. I mean, if I'm ready, then I'll play. If not, then we'll, we'll see otherwise. But like I said, I think it's just, you know, keeping the head down. Shave daddy. If you're interested in my old Alma mater, Davenport university, I bet you they

could throw a pretty big bag off, but it'd probably be more than what you get for signing. Yeah I'm never gonna get over the sheaf daddy I like that. No I like sheaf daddy. You're learning. So tonight you're headed in. This guy's out of control. He's out of control. He's got your seat now Biz you're gone. all right good knowing all you guys we got a new host as we call in the honors hey I'm hanging them up gonna join the pot they bring Lou back hey tonight you're going to Coldplay you said you ever seen those guys like your big concert dude no I'm honestly so my first concert was last summer, Morgan

Wallen, so I'm going to Morgan Wallen arm Thursday. I'm going to Miami. So I mean, I'm seeing cold play and then Morgan back to back. So it's pretty sweet. Like I heard cold, baby. And once you go there, it's like, yeah, there are every concert. It's like, all right. Cause like cold plays is like so sweet.

So buddy, I went 2009, I think at thousand nine, I think, at the garden. It's it's incredible. And I and I like some Cold Play songs, but you know much. But, dude, you're in for a time. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, I'm excited. We're going with Jack Ivankovic and his family. So he went to Nashville. So he's he's a awesome guy. Great. Great. Great great goalie though. So I'm shooting on him in the summer. So who are you going to Miami with his family?

No, I'm going with my girlfriend and her family. Okay. So you got a girl. Oh yeah, I do. Okay. That changes things. It's not laughing. No, I love laughing.

You're doing a creepy smile right now. No, I'm fucking happy for you. This is going to be looking up her Instagram. She's only'm not laughing. You're doing a creepy smile right now. No, I'm fucking happy for you, James. This is going to be looking up her Instagram. She's only 17, bitch. I thought you were going to cheer me up. I thought you were going to cheer me, Blizz. No, I wasn't.

You got your, it seems like you got your shit figured out, man. I'm happy for you. Christ. No, he's going to be like, do you have any friends? He's looking away as he's talking. It's like he's like nervous. Because he's checking his Instagram like Keith said. I was not. I had my fucking eyes locked on this screen. I can only imagine Grinnelli

laughing his dick off behind the scenes right now. You guys are torturing me. So when you were drafted to Eerie, like did you get to talk to Connor right away? Just to kind of know what it was like the transition going first overall. And also playing for an organization. Like when I was in the OHL, Eerie was very dominant. I believe that they won the OHL championship at that time. So what was your, your initial interaction and what was your experience like over two years? So I met Connor when we retired as Jersey, that was the first time I met him.

So that's, I, it was crazy. So we, we did the press conference for him and it was him and all his family talking and then I get called up on stage to talk about him and you guys have heard, you know, the proud story. So I, I run out of things to say and then I look over and I go, crowd to you. And I, what am I doing? Right? So that's one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Meet you though. I mean, I think he gets it though. Young kid going up talking about, you know, one of the best thing.

I mean, I run out of things to say, so I pull out the, God, you got her. That is so good. He's going to try to walk you this year. He's going to trap him. Hey, he's going to walk me, dance me, score, and then go, I'm proud of you. Proud of you, kid. Yeah.

Um, no, but yeah. So that's the first time I met him. He was amazing guy. Obviously I broke my collarbone, you know, just before that. So I got to talk to him a bit about that, but was obviously super busy come back here everyone loves him there so got to meet him there and then we saw him at game three so it was pretty cool he came up give me a nice dab up and got to talk to the guys. Did you hear the pop? Did you get the pop on the dab up? It was I think it was more like a soft because like I'm going in I'm just

like a nice little soft touch you know. Well no you're like I'm proud of you son proud of you son you tapped him on the head. This kid's the funniest kid in the world. I love him. Who was your idol growing up besides your brother or uncle brother? McDavid looked up to him. No no I looked up to. He's the dos ectase guy. Yeah. Yeah. It was also like, I feel like going, going to Eerie was obviously pretty, pretty easy. You know, seeing Connor go through there is, you know, a no brainer. I mean, seeing, you know, a stud like him come out of the organization. It was pretty cool to see. So, um, yeah.

I mean, what about Dee though? Like, like Dee in the NHL. Yeah. Um, so obviously McCarr is the guy more, uh, you know, model my game after and take things from his game. And then I think like, if a role model, like just in general, like a class act would be like cross. Yeah.

Like I think that everyone can say that too. I mean, I think he's just a classy guy. Like he's, you know, when you meet him, he's just like an amazing guy to be around and an amazing guy to have a new team. Funny enough when I met him, I said, Hey, I'm proud of you, dude. Keep going. I did, I did that. I did that.

And then Witt can thank him for that house. He's sitting in a Nantucket. Yeah, I'm trying to name the house. Thanks Sid. My wife won't let me. Yeah. Fuck. I just pulled up some of these quotes.

Shave daddy. When I drive a car off the lot, it's price increases in value. Dave daddy. Once a rattlesnake bit me after five days of excruciating pain, the snake finally died. What it means. The Chuck Norris. Daddy, my feet don't get blisters, but my shoes do.

Went to a Coldplay concert, Shave daddy was singing. Oh my god. Shave daddy, I could speak Russian, in French. I could French kiss a Russian girl. Off. Shave daddy, I never say something tastes like chicken. Not even chicken. Oh, that one's kind of that one sucked

Yeah, and read that one first. Oh sure. Yeah, sure. Yeah shave daddy Superman has pajamas with my logo Notice Connor apparently. Oh This goes on this kid. Yeah, um any other hockey questions boys What about what about the skill stuff like all these kids you them on the ice, they got the fucking pylons, uh, like the triangle they're going down there, their heads up. It's all this crazy shit on the ice. Obviously I was never doing it. Are you doing all that stuff on the ice in the summertime?

Not really as much. Like, I think, like I was, I was actually talking to someone about this. So Gio is like all brains, like he has all things like mentally behind, like what he's teaching where, you know, if, if you're doing skills and you're sticking through cones and I mean, I don't really think you need to know that's not more game situations where, you know, Gio is teaching game situations. Like what do you need to do? Like, you know, McDavid's coming down on you.

They're looking at your feet and like once your feet, once you cross over, like you're done cause he'd be in you wired with the speed. So like, there's a lot of things that he like teaches me to like, you know, that's more game situations where a lot of people love the skills. I mean, everyone loves a good skill session where you're just ripping pots and stick handling, right? All right. Yeah.

Well that's given. I mean, I think everyone knows that. Let them on the ice for the skill session. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We kicked them off. He goes in bench presses, I think everyone knows that. Let them on the ice for the skill session. Yeah. I already kicked them all. He goes in bench presses while we're working on that.

He's usually all his anger because the coach is like, it's not messing up the phones, he's trying to say the camera for them and stuff. This fucking asshole. I love him. I love him. I love him. Well that, that's good though. The situational stuff.

So like, like, so what, like he'll just be like dumping pucks in and then you gotta go retreat. That was one thing Gio was unreal at. He was a one man breakout. When he played with the Owen sound attack, I was blown away by, you know, you put it in his corner, you think you got him dead to rights escape move. He's wheeling around the net and boom, that's honestly a big thing. He does like the retrievals he was.

And like, I think there's a lot of things that you do, like, well, like he's dumping them in and then like, you know, you're, you're doing fakes. Like you're doing a lot of things where like, honestly in games, that's what you're going to need to do. And for me, like the biggest thing for me that he was saying is like, of course it's like a lot faster game, but you have more time when you're going to pick up a puck and you got to trust your skating where, you know, like guys are coming down, like it's more set, like guys are in the right positions a lot more.

Of course, man, I checked. It's the best league in the world. Right. So it helps when guys are in the right spots, like forwards, you know, like they're just all in the right spots. It makes your job a little bit easier. What would be a dream D partner? Like I always love playing with a stay at home D man, a guy that was going to

just stay on the bench, stay on the bench. Dream D partner like I always love playing with a stay at home demon a guy that was gonna just is yeah Stay stay on the bench stay on the bench sock Doing you might get a Netflix special No, just wonder what kind of what kind of player he likes to play with or it doesn't even matter because I know you're a two way guy, you can do it all. Yeah. Honestly. I mean, I think like there's both like, it's nice to have, well, if there's

another offensive guy, you guys can both work offensively and like you can go either way. I mean, if you got someone like, honestly, I'm, I'm super easy going. Like if I had to choose, I mean, like my car would be pretty nuts to play with. Like you and him cooking up some ozone time. But yeah, I'm, I'm super easy going. I think I would play with Fizz. I wouldn't mind it honestly.

I'll stay at home for you buddy. You will stay at home. Hey, I set up a party after the, I remember seeing the video of you at the top prospects game with your curly hair and there's dude coming up on you like, Oh yeah. You know I fought in that game, right? You fought. Yeah.

Double Dion. That was, was that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God. And you actually did pretty good. I was MVP of the game. I had a goal on Marc-Andre Fleury. I had a couple of nice plays.

Corey Perry almost took my wrist off at the end of the game with a slash. I think he'd seen enough of me trying to rush the puck. Mind you, he was on my own team. Um, I was going to, I was going to ask you, he's like, hand that fucking thing over regardless, couple quick one-offs. If you had to pick like one pump up tune in the locker room before you go out of the tunnel, which tune are you picking right now to get the boys fired up in the locker room?

This is a telephone case. So I'm a big house music guy, like remixes and all that. So I love that stuff. Big booty mix? Oh yeah. 100%. 100%. So there's like, that's a tough one, Biz, but I mean, do you guys listen to Frank Walker? I might know a song based on if I heard it, but no, I don't know Frank Walker. What are we listening to right now? No, Frank Walker. I listen to the Eagles. You're going to Coldplay tonight, bro. So I mean like I wish you listen to Viva La Vida when you come out of the room.

I don't think I listen to Viva La Vida. No, hey wait till you hear Fix You getting ready for your first game against the Canadians, buddy. Yeah, true. All right. Let's see Frank Walker. I mean, I'm seeing I go dancing, missing you. Oh, I go dancing is a good one. Come on. I go dancing. Hey, isn't that big booty mix the one that we got a shout out in? Yeah, we got. Yeah, you got a shout

out. Well, G puts us on all the new school stuff. And he was saying that all the boys in the locker room, they just like they don't even need to mix up their own tunes or put a playlist together because they can throw on the big booty mix. It's gone for like an hour. Like it's like an hour and a bit. But like honestly, like house music, I'm pretty easy going.

Like, do you guys know James Hype? No, I go dancing is legit. I was just hitting it. I was. Yeah, it's good. It's good money. I'm going to work once you get to the beat drop. It's pretty. Yes. That's what I just heard. I fast forward.

I was making sure I mean, at the start, it's pretty slow. So Matt Murley, who invented the band ACDC, he invented house music. Oh, he did that. Okay. No shit. That too. He's dead. Melv's dead. Melv's manager. He says Thunderstruck is the all time come out tune, which I'd probably have to agree with him on that one. My next one off question was do the Islanders need to bring back the fishermen jerseys?

Yeah. I mean, honestly, yeah, I wouldn't mind those like jerseys or jerseys. I mean, I think it's always nice to have that extra jersey. That's pretty like nice. And the fans definitely love them too. I think the fans love them. I actually, when we were at camp, I saw a bunch of, there's a flag, I think, with the logo on it. And there's a couple of jerseys. So they're like, is obviously everyone has the new jerseys that they wear now, but it's nice to see the old ones come

back a bit. Okay. I just wanted to say it's great chatting with you. And I know there's, there's, there was a lot of discussion of, you know, the passing of your mom and what the draft meant with the ribbon for her and her initials and kind of wanted to keep it loose. But I'll say like, good for you, the adversity that you've gone through and that the way you've come out on the other side, I'm proud of you. How about that one? Yeah. Yeah.

Love that one. And it's amazing to see though, like I like I said the resiliency and your family your dad Yeah, other it's it's a really cool story. So dude, I can't wait to watch you play. Yeah. Thanks boys I appreciate you know having me maybe not as much being on there with biz a little annoying sometimes But uh biz can caddy for us when we all play golf together. I love that This would be a good caddy. You can just like, we'll take the carts. He just carries the bags. We don't even need to get the carts on the thing. We'll just give it to this so you can carry them.

I'm getting fucking bullied. I have to call the league office right now. Um, but you did mention one thing about when you were playing ball hockey or roller hockey in your driveway, that your mother would be a net. Like, so obviously you had a very special connection and bond with her. And I'm really sorry for your loss, man. But like Whit said, like you've, you've handled the adversity tremendously and, and just like, you're, you're a legend, bro.

You're a legend. It obviously helps to like, when, when you guys were saying, you know, do you get, like you have pressure and things and do you get stressed out? I, when, well, I think a lot of people can speak on this, you know, seeing a loved one go through cancer and cancer sucks. And you know, to see a loved one go through that, you become a lot of people can speak on this, you know, seeing a loved one go through cancer and cancer sucks. And you know, to see a loved one go through that, you become a lot stronger and you know, you're happy. I'm happy that my mom's not suffering anymore because this year go through that.

It's not fun at all. And you know, I mean, she's still the happiest person in the family making jokes and everything, doing everything for us, but this year go through something so scary. I mean, you'd rather just be, you know, happy, you know, up there and not suffering where she's always with me in spirit, which helps. So what's the hockey game? What's the hockey pressure after what we've been through? Exactly.

It's like, you know, guys get mad over making a mistake or, you know, like losing a game and obviously, I mean, you don't want to do that stuff, but there's a lot worse things that can happen. You just get a build from it. Right. So you're a legend, dude. Obviously you're an amazing player, but I's a lot worse things that can happen. You just get a build from it. Right. So you're a legend, dude. Obviously you're an amazing player, but I think your, uh, best quality is your happiness and obviously you got that from your mom and, you know, keep bringing that

lay. You talk about, you know, all these guys you were teammates with and being proud of them and all that stuff. So it's, it's, it's amazing. I'm rooting for you. I'm, uh, I might even watch a couple of Islanders games this year. Cause we're not the biggest Islanders fan on this podcast. You're going to be watching some Islander fan. I might even watch a couple of Islanders games this year. Cause we're not the biggest Islanders fan on this podcast. You're going to be watching some Islander fan.

I might jump on your team. You're going to be my third team. I think this year. You have to, you got no first team. But he ain't, you gotta get dealt to the leaps if that's happening. But no buddy, we appreciate your time. This has been unbelievable. And, and yeah, like you had said, I'll be watching Islanders games for the first time in a long time. Yeah. Perfect. I mean, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. I've always, I mean, I've always wanted to come on this. Everyone was like, Oh, when you go on the spin, Chicklets and all that. Right. So then I was like,

I'll go sue. I mean, the more time I can get away from biz, the better, but, uh, I'll do, I'll do one. I do. I forgot something. I forgot an ad it's the rollback last question use code chicklets on rollback.com for generous 20% off your first purchase at the end of the week that's C H I C L E T S on R H O B A C K dot com 20% off all polo shorts swim trunks and more with code chicklets. I don't really have much left but what about throwing out a name of a draft pick this year that maybe people don't really have much left, but what about throwing out a name of a draft pick this year that maybe people don't know a lot about that you do that you could see big things from

in the future? Doesn't even have to be a first rounder. Somebody who knows that kid's sneaky nice. I got to say Jack of Anchovic. He went to Nashville. So I got to shoot on him. I got to play with him at the World Juniors and a lot of, uh, team Canada tournaments, and we've won a lot of tournaments together and you know, to have a, you know, guy at the, you know, back your team, you know, keeping you in

games and we played a team Ontario tournament, it was double overtime and we hit, I remember me and him were like in goalies and defense had a little bit of chemistry and you know, he would like be sending me pucks and OT and he'd be like making some big time stops and you know, you need a goalie, you know, he would like be sending me pucks and OT and he'd be like making some big time stops and you know, you need a goalie, you know, that save you on some, you know, bacon that you kind of leave out. And you know, if I send a pizza up the middle, I mean, I, I, I have a lot of hope that he's going to save it, which helps. So, um, yeah,

58th pick and actually just five 11. So undersized for a goalie, but I like it. I like it It doesn't matter. He's a stud. I Feel like like all these teams just wanted a draft for size I mean it kind of went from like the forwards to the D then obviously goalies were being 6465 but you see with like Dustin wolf Saros and some of these smaller guys I feel like there might be a trend going back to, Hey, just find the guy who can stop the fucking puck. Yeah.

Um, my last one, I actually have one more. You're obviously going to get a big signing bonus. What is the one thing that you're going to splurge on? Like you want to buy a nice vehicle? Uh, why are you smiling like that? I was going to say something about you, but I'm not. What? It's a predictable, a predictable question. He's probably going to say, are you going to ask me for a loan or something?

Like if it's 6% I'll take it. Oh, my nose. Hard money lender. Oh, a nose job. He's going to buy you a nose job this guy is fucking incredible hey business I'm joking business what's funny is he reminds me a lot of you when you were this age exactly I think you guys have a big time connection here business man playing fourth line left wing in no time but you're gonna have a shout like me you better save that fucking signing bonus you little fucking brat. Biz we were best friends in the making. Yeah we were. Hey be careful he'll move into your house dude he's got no shame.

I honestly wouldn't mind that as much as I'm true for Biz. Biz you're the man. Hey we got to get like the show H HL guys are going to start representing again. Too many of these American kids. You'll be playing for Team Canada in no time, buddy. We're going to all the way. Let's go, baby. I'm getting we got to stick together because these 80% know what you say.

Penn State would have given this kid 400 grand. This is made for college. I'm for money. Not everything. Boys, a bit. Money is not everything. boys. A-biz? Money's not everything. Yeah, oh, oh, tell Biz that. He'll do a fucking ad read for anything. I was doing dick pill commercials last summer

for Felix.ca. Fuckin'. All right, Shave Daddy. Shave Daddy, you're a legend, dude. Thanks for coming on. Thank you so much to Shave Daddy. I will never call him Matthew Shave again. He's the Shave Daddy.

I imagine he's going to be a nasty player based on how good he is at interviewing. Some people may say, why do you think that those two things go hand in hand? But I can just tell sometimes. We've been doing this for a while. When you're that good with the mic at 17 you got to be that good at hockey or else you wouldn't be confident enough to be that good with the mic So shut out the shape daddy what he's been through what we're gonna get to watch him do Awesome guy and with that I do need to mention

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We should have brought Big Dan back. He had a winter coat though, it's 90 degrees. No, he didn't play for the Bruins, so he can't talk about them like that. Oh, you could talk about them, but you can't light candles and cry when they lose. I think that's the difference. Oh, yeah. You can talk about the Leafs, but to really live and die with everything and

call yourself an ambassador, I don't think he would call himself an ambassador for the Bruins, or maybe he wouldn't be welcome to either. But the Bruins, G, they gave some term out that was just outlandish I know Tanner Janal I think he got five years right five years correct at 3.8 now am I missing something that like dude tough as nails would what would one of my team I get nothing against the player the 3.8 is almost crazier than the 5. Is that just to get up the cap number?

I'm not as worried about the 3.8. I'm more worried about the term. I just think why give a guy that you know hasn't proved himself outside of his rookie season five years? Especially when you had that guy in Jeremy Brazile, you had that guy in Trent Frederick. I just don't understand why you went out and made this move. I think a majority of what they've done is frustrating. And I think it all kind of goes back to that end of year press conference they had.

I don't know if you guys remember that, but it got pretty nasty between like Cam Neely, Don Sweeney and the reporters in the media. It always does. It always does. But the media was this was a little bit more than usual and the media was pressing them pretty hard on what's the direction of this team. And I remember particularly Don Sweeney is kind of saying like, hey, like we're about to do a rebuild almost in like layman's terms and Cam Neely jumps in and says, I just want to be clear here.

We are going to compete for a Stanley Cup next season. What? Look at this roster. This is one of the worst rosters in the NHL. They're pissing on us and they're telling us it's raining. They're telling us- So, G, would you rather hear them say, you know what? Yeah. We're in a little bit of a rebuilding phase and you never know, like Gavin McKenna's coming. Get us in that lottery sometime. 100%.

Maybe they're actually thinking that, but they don't want to say it. But it's like the anger with which they replied to the reporters and they're like, oh, well this is an original six franchise in one of the best cities in the NHL. Who wouldn't want to come coach here? Well, I don't know, Don.

I think three or four coaches probably didn't want to come coach there this offseason. So I think the fact that like the vitriol in their voice, but I would have taken what James, this is crazy to say that I would have taken what James Dolan did a few years ago when he sent a letter out to the fans basically saying like, hey, times are going to get tough here. Like we're planning for the future. We have a plan in place here. But get tough here. Like we're planning for the future. We have a plan in place here, but to sit there and say, we're going for the Stanley Cup next year and to give us Victor Arvidsson and Tanner Gernot on a five year deal.

Like I said, they're pissing on us and they're telling us it's raining. It's a, it's a joke. But at the same time- Not being able to get anything for taking Arvidsson too, which you knew Edmonton was a bit in a bit of a jam and that things didn't necessarily, I don't want to say they ended poorly there, but he was a healthy scratch by the end of it. Um, I don't think the fit was, which is as natural and yeah, I, I actually don't mind Arvidsson, I feel like he's a little honey badger in some cases.

Uh, he's got one year left on that deal, right? So that's not like you have them long term. I was, I was just shocked by the, they didn't want to give Frederick term. They didn't want to give him eight years at, at the 4 million, whatever he was asking for. So then they move on from him knowing and already comfortable with him. And then essentially just give him the same deal but three last years. So I also don't know if Jeanau has consistent offensive upside like Trent Frederick does. So to lose one and then re-sign Jeanau, I think Jeanau is like at best a third

line player and maybe not even consistently. I think he's a mix, a mix between a third and fourth line player and maybe not even consistently. I think he's a mix, a mix between a third and fourth line player. And they signed so many third and fourth line guys and you still have Fabian Lysel, former first round pick. You still have Matthew Poitra who they, they're not playing bottom six minutes. That's not the style of game they play. They're top six minutes guys. So when you're filling the roster with guys like Victor Arvidsson and Tanner Janow, it's, it's frustrating to no end, but I will say this,

I'll leave it with this. This is a good thing for the Bruins. In a sense, they shouldn't have went for it this year. They're awful. They don't have the roster to win a Stanley Cup. They're so far away. So you know what? Build for the future. If you get Gavin McKenna, God forbid if you get Gavin McKenna, if that happens, that helps. No forbid, not God. Well, it means instead of losing and being that bad all year. Well, I'll say this right now. That and it's right now guarantee if they are in the bottom five, they're winning the lottery. Yeah.

That is, that is the most no brainer original six franchise. Get them going again. I hear Connor, his caught over the special. He's airing his good friend Jeremy Jacob. If they are in the bottom five, they will win the lottery. We're okay with that though. We're okay with that. You want him.

Coming from the Edmonton guy, that's rich. Oh, hey, hey, buddy. If you think that I'm going to sit here and deny the fact that they set up McDavid going to Edmonton, you're crazy. You're crazy. I mean, and like Keith just said, I think it's smart. If the league has generational players and the year it comes, there's five teams

and there's always one that's like an enormous market, give them that player. People may hate hearing that, but dude, you want Gavin McKenna playing in, well, I mean, Chicago could be awful again. San Jose won't get it. But like Boston is a place that you'd want what could be the best league. Every playoffs they have the highest TV rating. So it makes sense. So what do you, what do you think like a guy like Pasta's thinking like during this, like his whole career there, it's like, all right, we're trying to win.

We're, we're, you know, signing guys of free agency, we're making trades at the deadline. Like you think he's the type of guy that could be like, Hey, see you boys. A hundred percent. And that's my biggest worry. And that's why I was so pleased with the Morgan geeky deal. Cause I know David Poshnuck loves playing with Morgan geeky. So like the fact that they locked him in and they gave him his guy that that's

huge, but at the same time, every move they move they should they make from here on out, you've got to go talk to David Postredok. Like you gotta I'm not talking like the little tiny bullshit moves, but like you've got to get approval from this guy. All that matters is keeping David Postredok happy. So at the end of this season, when they finish second to last place in the league, he doesn't walk into Don Sweeney's office and say, I'm requesting a trade. Yeah. What he because they've done some of his friends pretty fucking dirty over the past few years. Postmix 11-2-5 that's like

that is unbelievable when you see some contracts out there. What a hundred points last year playing with the Providence Bruins. Yeah. I'll tell you why he'd look unbelievable on a Leafs jersey. Yeah, blue and white baby. Ambassador coming in. I mean, god damn, 11 to five for Pasta. They're going out and just doing nothing. But I mean, fuck dude. They probably do need to get pretty bad

before they're good. Yeah. And that means almost like maybe moving McEvoy and Pernock for just an absolute haul and being like, it's a complete redo. It depends on what, I mean, there's a huge free agent class next summer too. They're going to have a ton of money. So I think you get Gavin McEnna.

They always say that though. And then by the time it actually comes, there's nobody left. It's true. Except McDavid. And Eichel. Well, gee, sorry to hear about your team. True. Except McDavid. And Eichel. Who counted? Well, gee. Sorry to hear about your team.

I think that they're gonna be top 10 worst teams in the league next year guaranteed, if not top five like Whit mentioned. And yeah, it's gonna be a while till you guys hoist Lord Stanley again. Things are switching in this league, guys. Things are switching around quick. We're gonna have some teams buzzing.

Now, a team who has lost to the Oilers four years in a row in the first round, the L.A. Kings. I saw a furious fan base after July 1st with the L.A. Kings. Now, I like Corey Perry, Corey Perry, dude, like what this guy's done. I mean, it's incredible. He's his age. He's still playing. He was playing like with McDavid at times, though, and Leon, right?

Like, I don't know what he's going to have there, but I'm not even mad about that one. But like the rest of them. You look, it was Cody Cece got four times four and a half, which Cody Cece, like people. I mean, dude, the guys, you you know he's not a top four defenseman but people make him sound way worse than he is I really think that but four times four and a half when you're kind of looking to make a big step after losing in the first round four years in a row they don't love that. Dumalin three times four Joel Armia two times two and a half and then Anton Forsberg the goalie two times two and a half so I just don't Anton Forsberg, the goalie two times two and a

half. So I just don't get the, I don't, yeah, I don't get the number was somebody else offering Cody CC more than four and a half million. I know he's extremely well liked by his teammates. Dry Cytlin McDavid loved them. They were, you know, they were upset to see him go. So creating a culture and having a guy like that is important. But as you said, I think on a Stanley cup winning team, he's, he's a bottom pair defenseman and you can't be paying, you should be paying bottom pair defensemen the same amount that the Florida Panthers are. They sign Nate Schmidt to under a million.

They sign all over Ekman Larson to whatever it was, one and change or just under like we're talking about an astronomical number for a guy who's a bottom pair guy. into whatever it was, one and change or just under, like, we're talking about an astronomical number for a guy who's a bottom pair guy. Like I don't understand. I don't get it. I don't get it. Ken Holland. Yeah, I know. I, I don't know.

That's, that's where, like, when, when people like scream that their team doesn't do, do a ton of free agency, like sometimes it's better to not do something. Like you're not overpaying guys. You're not signing guys to deals where it's like, oh shit, like we kind of jumped the gun. It's like, all right, we have cap space. We can figure this out as the season goes. Like kind of my thought with Edmonton, obviously everything is dependent on McDavid, but it sometimes is like the best move you make is the move you don't make. I might've just butchered that.

You guys know what I'm saying. Holland's obsessed with the, I think what is, I think Army calls him the Redwoods, like the big, the big tall D-man. So with Edmondson, Anderson, and then those two guys, you have a huge back end, but I don't know, man. Yans, what do you think? No, I was just thinking, you think the GMs are giving out these, you know, especially a term, like you said, with CC getting the term and, um, like just cause they see where

the caps going and it's like, oh shit, we're going to have to get up to this. Like, you know, these guys are at least proven players in the league. They can help us win some games or it. And then also too, I want to ask you what like Edmonton did Edmonton offer Corey Perry? Cause like, he seemed like such a good fit there. Yeah. I think, I, I don't think they met what he wanted. I mean, that's kind of like the, the, he got, he got one year times 2 million. Like it wouldn't give him 2 million. I mean,

they obviously decided like with like Brown and like they decided that they weren't gonna pay certain guys but I would have given Perry two million I mean once again with the others it's all about the turnover they're not bringing back Perry they're not bringing back Connor Brown not to mention the turnover but it's like they brought in Skinner and Arvartin Arvartin was a healthy scratch in the finals and then gets traded and Skinner is a free agent who hasn't signed anywhere. So it's like, what the fuck? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. What is venting? Any other big losers?

We are venting. Yeah, the LA was, that was a tough day for them. That was a tough day for them. I really do think that. I was kind of like, jeez, I don't know, man. Like, I don't know. No other losers like really stuck, not many. I mean, I was waiting for some big trades. Like, where are the trades? What's going on with the trades? I think all the teams trade during the season because then you're only getting a portion of the cap hit.

Like you're only paying whatever, 30% of it for the end of the year from then on. And then you can kind of do the cap hit, like you're only paying whatever, 30% of it for the end of the year from then on. And then you can kind of do the cap circumcision that way. But it's yeah, no, the trades, especially during during the summertime, seemed like they've that they're a lost art. You know what? You know who? I'm not going to say they're giant losers because I think they have a good team and I think that they're gonna they're gonna be good this year, but the wild I I don't know like it was kind of the first year without the shackles of all that payment to Parisi and suitor and And right. I think they probably wanted Brock Nelson. He's resigned to Colorado probably wanted Besser He resigns at Vancouver. So they get Tarasenko on a one-year deal

He resigns at Vancouver. So they get Tarasenko on a one year deal. Um, but I think their fans were maybe thinking a little more would go down. But like I said, like Billy G is like, all right, like we're not going to overpay certain guys, but I bet you they wanted Nelson and Nelson. I was surprised by the, by Besser back in Vancouver. Like he had a pretty good deal on the table, but it was obvious that he wanted term, he ends up getting the seven years at just under 8 million where the original offer that we heard was five times eight and a half.

So just clearly wanted more security and knowing where he's going to be. Maybe I don't know if he's married or starting a family, but I'm surprised to see that one. But, uh, what was the other one we were just talking about quickly? Oh, Minnesota. I just think that they're probably first order of operation is seeing what happens with Kaprizov and if he for whatever reason doesn't come back you have an astrical on you what do you have in cap space you got the 14 million that just came off the books and then another or was it me nine and a

half on top of that and then whoever else is came off the books and then another, or was it nine and a half on top of that and then whoever else is coming off the book. So Minnesota, it'll be interesting to see what direction they head in over the course of the next 18 months. Bro, if he's not signing, they can trade away for him and get a haul. They're just as dead as Edmonton as if McDavid leaves, if Kaprizov ever left. And I mean, how many times do you ever remember an owner coming out and being like,

we will give him anything he wants? I think that was the quote. You just handed over all the leverage, sir. I'm wondering, maybe he, would he wait, would he wanna wait till McDavid signs to see his number? Or would he want to get in before? No, I think that it does it. There's so many teams in desperate need of a guy like that, that if each of those guys

wanted the full 20%, they can get it. I think that Philadelphia would pay 20% to Kaprizov in a heartbeat. I think he's a perfect fit in the New York Rangers. No, no, Keith, you know where he's a perfect fit in the New York Rangers No, no Keith. You know where he's a perfect fit Toronto blue and white. Oh, yeah, I didn't even say that that's you saying that he would fit in perfectly I thought with flyers just because of the meat scob like imagine having those two lethal Russians playing together But you just mentioned New York. I mean Panarin and him Panarin's probably got what three years left on his deal. No, I think he's up next summer.

I think he's part of that class next summer. What? Yeah. That was already eight years. I know. I saw the Panarin. I was like, Panarin's already up. I know.

Holy fuck. I know. You know what? Interesting. Um, Interesting move. So like the Bowen Byrom kind of saga, right? Like is he gonna get traded? He's gonna get signed.

He's gonna be like John Gibson five years from now when we're talking about him getting traded at a Buffalo. Well the Sabres elected for salary arbitration, right? With Bowen Byrom. And Utah did it with Jack McBain. Now what that does is that doesn't allow them to get offer sheeted. Right. So you're basically protecting yourself from another team going out and signing

them. But now you've got to deal with arbitration and you've got to deal with whatever the arbitrator gives them on a one or a two year deal. I don't know how it's decided if it's a one year deal or a two year deal, but I think that flip a coin. No, I'm serious. They play rock, paper, scissors. Or rock, paper, scissors, you're right, yeah, it's rock. Two out of three, though.

We changed it to new CBA. But wait, if you don't want, clearly, I mean, obviously they want him, but if they don't want him enough to sign him enough, wouldn't you want him to get offer sheeted? Then you can at least get some draft picks or something? That's a point people have made, but I think Buffalo's like, we don't need any more draft picks.

Like, we need players. So maybe they can end up dealing them. I mean, you can also sign before the arbitration hearing, but Jesus Christ, the arbitration hearing, that's a nightmare. My arbitration hearing would have been, I would have left there crying, like asking strangers for hugs. Would have been like I would have left there crying, like asking strangers for hugs. Would have been like the Schaefer interview. Just pissed, leaving, crying, getting dummied by a 17 year old.

Oh my god. There's some horror stories about that. Caner stayed in Detroit boys. Caner was actually at the Barstool office today. I think he was on with the Barstool Chicago show. Big Cat texted me, said it was amazing. Said they were going down memory lane on all of those three cups and all the legendary moments, but he signs in Detroit, a three million dollar cap hit.

I think he can get another like four million in potential bonuses. So, Kayn is staying there. What? 40 million. Yeah. Dude, I'd give them that. I love that guy. The Canadians acquired Zach Bolduc.

The Canadians actually have been buzzing. The Canadians have had a hell of a lot of- That's what we missed as a big winner. That's what we missed. That's a big winner we missed. And that's my bad. I forgot, it was further down in the outline. But this Bolduc dude, he's a player, man. He is nice, he's big, strong, Montreal's

building something there. They traded Logan Mayu, who spent most of the year in the minors. I think he's had points when he's played a couple NHL games, but nice puck moving defenseman. I think Armie knows what he's doing there, but I think that could be a big win-win for both teams. Yeah, I think that St. Louis has an abundance of young forwards. So that was maybe why they moved off. I was surprised, but, um, they do have an older decor and, you know, this slogan may you, you know, the stuff in the past is the stuff in the past, but

they obviously see a lot of offensive upside and defensemen who can lug the puck and possess those offensive skills are far and few between. I mean, you saw what, uh, Dobson ended up getting, um, with, with Montreal in that sign and trade nine and a half. So, um, there's a lot of value there and considering they have so many forwards, you might as well shoot for the fences, um, for, for a young up and coming defenseman. But I liked that bull Duke.

I liked him in playoffs. He brought that spark, brought it all season long. And, uh, yeah, he's a, he's a, he's a good young forward. 19 goals as a 22 year old. It's like, all right, that's, I just, I just like how Montreal is pushing the chips in the middle saying we have this kind of, we have this young core group who is hitting pretty much on average age, the middle twenties. So they're able to the next few years grow together as they get to their primes and who knows, maybe this turnaround happens a lot sooner than expected.

But, um, yeah, it, uh, it was definitely a building year for them, getting to the playoffs, getting that experience and dipping their toes in. And, uh, it should be fun to see what St. Louis can do with this young crew. I think that them seeing Demidov is like, all right, we can start this even a little earlier. I think next year, I think he's going to be dominant. I think he's going to be a superstar, Kaprizov-like,

and they're like, holy shit, we now have like a true franchise, like superstar on our hands, and let's get some more forward help. And yeah, May you like they have Hudson. They just get Dobson kind of make sense, right? Like puck mover that they don't necessarily need. So interesting on that. Oh, all right, guys.

Well, we have some breaking news here. This is from Jordan Smaltz. It sounds like Gavin McKenna will be signing with Penn State sometime this week, maybe even as early as today. He was added to the team group chat last night. Big news in the college hockey. Wow. First of all, who called this? Keith, you said this month to go to me.

I thought he was coming to Davenport. That's where I thought he was coming. That's where I was. Oh, you got Schaefer though. Okay. That's right. Yeah. He's got Schaefer's next. If he doesn't. Yeah. He's guys. You got Schaefer next.

If he doesn't make the team, he's going to Penn State. Oh, why did, how did you know this months ago? So friend of mine, uh, he's a big time donor at Penn State and I was, I was with them and, you know, just talking about hockey and what guys he needs to get. And that rule changed that the call, uh call the CHL players can go there. I just gave him a list of names that were big dog names mostly from G. Get the fuck out of here. He asked you to put a list together. G didn't I tell you this.

I swear. Yeah. He texted me like months and months ago being like, who were the big dogs? I got this big dog at Penn State. It sounded like you guys had some drinks, too. It sounded like you guys had some drinks and you guys were getting after it. Oh, it was when I was at Augusta. So what does he donate? Like what type of number? He has buildings named after him. Let's just say that.

I bet you he got like 500 grand or more. I don't know. Dude, that Big Ten money and that school with their football program and that kid, I bet you he got bank. Bank. He's getting the Jesus Shuttlesworth tour. Dude, that is so cool for college hockey.

This is literally if Crosby or McDavid, their draft year had gone to college. But it's also if they went to like the New York Rangers in a sense. And it's I know Penn State doesn't have the history, but the alumni network that Penn State has, the marketing dollars that Penn State has, the Big Ten Network, they they have the ability to get TV deals. There's like 95% of college hockey teams don't have that ability to get on national TV. Penn State can do that. Every one of their games is going to be on next year on the big 10. I'm pumped to watch them. So, so, so he's played two years of junior with medicine hat or now three, three

years. He played three because he played, he played as an, like a double under rager, which is like an exemption rule. Now I feel like, like, obviously this is huge and he can do this. Like, Oh, I guess cause yeah, cause he hasn't been drafted yet. Right. So he wouldn't have been able to go play anywhere else to develop at a higher level. Right.

Oh, even if he was drafted, he could have though. No, I, I get it. But I was saying is like, he could have went and played in like the AHL for instance, but now if he had been drafted, but whereas before you're kind of limited where now you're kind of stuck at that level where what's he going to play a fourth year and put up 300 points, it's almost like counterproductive where, okay, so now he goes off to college, makes that jump, playing against bigger, older guys,

and gets to make fucking bank. You think there's a chance he made a million bucks? I bet, I don't know about a million, but if it was seven, like 700, like bank. On top of endorsement deals? Like are you allowed endorsement deals with all that NIO? You can get whatever you can get. Yeah, you can you can make anything.

Now I don't know. The school will pay him that million or five hundred. It's like school, right? Schools have collective. So it's like they can only pay players a certain amount. But this this money is coming from a donor and like a private fund. Usually they have donor funds and those donor funds help pay for the students. Mama's getting the double wide.

I mean, this kid. It's also like for his development, like just from, I've only seen him play one time, but he looks like a slender kid. Like him going to college, like for his development, he's going to be working out. What, what do you work out in college with four or five times a week? Oh yeah. And yeah, like it's games on the weekend, right? You're not grinding. Monday through Thursday, you're training, you're practicing.

That's awesome for college. A hundred million dollar facility too. That Pagula Ice Arena, he spent a hundred million dollars. We went to just about all the top facilities in the country. Pagula is top three. And with the way they treat their players, these kids are eating filet mignons for lunch. What? For lunch, boys. I'm like, fucking go back. Hey, guys, go.

Give me the roller blades. Goat, boy. Give me the fucking roller blades. I've been to a lot of college campuses, too, boys, and I'll just say, Penn State unequivocally has the most beautiful girls. How much they giving you, G? They have the most beautiful girls at the campus. You're making what McKenna's making Wow

Hey and another thing too. Let's say it was a million dollar tag Moving forward they now become a top recruiting school not that they maybe were before like where where were they at? They had a big year this year this year, but they've never even I think Aiden Fink was like that last year was their first NHL draft pick. Like this is monumental. Okay. Wow. All right. This is, this is changing the state of Penn State hockey forever. Shocking that like if you told me Gavin McKenna was going to college, it's like, oh, he's going to Michigan, you know, like, and he goes to Penn State and, oh man, now guys are going to follow his step too. Like he's not the last guy that's gonna go there.

Like he's the first guy right? Like they're gonna get like other kids. Well remember that D-Man Stoff was talking about that Beerhoff? Yeah. I wonder like cause he's draft eligible. I wonder if he's going somewhere now. Like this is.

Well tell that kid if he's interested in Davenport University, I'll give you my 2018 used Jeep Jeep Grand Cherokee that means a lot of it both fobs all of it how about oh space congrats on your new truck yeah that's yeah that's the only reason I brought up a bottom form what's It's funny cuz the whole got a joke a turno statue in the backseat. Oh She said oh no, hey, I was filled up with Sealed up filet mignon Air tight air tight sealed

Hey, so this basically means If he's doing this I think moving forward airtight sealed. Hey, so this basically means. If he's doing this, I think moving forward. Any CHL kid that's considered like a top three pick going to his draft year is going to be going to college. I'd be shaking in my boots if I was a CHL team right now. Oh, I know. Well, are you? HL is going to turn into. Wow, it would just be 17 or 17. This is going to turn into, wow. It would just be 17 or 1718. This is going to change the CHL College Hawk thing.

And you know what? This will make probably the CHL start paying their actual players. Like, when I played there. They don't have the dough, dude. Oh, yeah? London does, but I mean, a lot of these teams don't have. OK, even if they have dough bits,

they could be like, all right, the best player will give 20 grand, and then that same kid's talking to Michigan, and they're offering them 600. Yeah. Well, it sounds like the CHL needs donors. Yeah. I'm also very interested to see,

is this gonna be the Eichichel Celebrini, Hobie Baker, 75 point freshman year? Like that's what, that's what everyone's going to be expecting now. I would be surprised if it's not. It's going to be more, right? We should go to the first game. Like BU got, um, the kid Ryder, Ryder Richie's going there. He's a stud for, I think first rounder.

Yeah, let's go to the Whiteout. 100%. We had them in Arizona when we had playoffs three years in a row not a big deal East or Western Conference finals Keep the change. Oh This immediately makes Penn State now G did they lose a lot from the good team last year? No, they didn't lose anyone and they added Jackson Smith just got drafted 14th overall by Columbus They added coach Godowski Mac Godowski son He's that he's coach Godowski son played at army this past year was an all-american

Huge defenseman. He's coming to Penn State. They got Jackson Smith. I just mentioned him like they they're loading up Michael Mises brother Luke Meeza, he's also going there next season. They're gonna be a wagon. They're gonna be better than Buffalo Pagulas Hey college hockey Yeah, now it's just it's's going to be just that much better. It's just going to be CHL to college hockey. That is now the route. American kids are getting fucked, but college hockey is now the next step after junior. They are no longer with this news, remotely considered similar.

I think USHL is going to take the biggest beating out of all of it. Tell your donor buddy and G, reach out to take the biggest beating out of all of it. Hey, tell your donor buddy and G reach out to whoever is paying you your bag from Penn State. Maybe we could broadcast the game. They have the big 10 network. Oh, okay. You can't just hop in there.

No, I don't think. No, we're going to take over every game this year. Is, is there a, is there a team that doesn't have a network where we could just do a one off? Oh yeah. There's tons of, there's tons of college teams that don't have TV deals. We could easily do something. Okay. I mean, we can still offer it up.

We could offer it up to Penn State, do a one off. Yeah. They're like, what are we getting out of the deal? We're like, G, you'll talk about how hot the girls are at your school again. I'll talk to Saginaw, North Bay, and I'll talk to some CHL teams that I was of own sound. And I'll say whenever your recruits leave, you're going to Penn State. Whenever your guys are making that next step, we're going to be a pipeline to them. That's what I'm going to facilitate in order for us to call one game.

We said it earlier this year, but imagine if Pittsburgh and Philly did the outdoor game at Penn State Stadium. How much more electric that would be now that Gavin McKenna is on campus the day or two before you have Penn State play against Michigan State as like a lead into the game. That would have been so electric. Hey boys, I don't know the exact years, but the Penguins got Lemieux and about 20 years later they got Crosby and about 20 years later they might be the worst team in the league and they might fucking get Gavin McKenna. I know I had him on Boston earlier in the show, but now you think he's going to be a penguin.

You might stay at Penn state. If he's getting a million a year, he might just stay there forever. That's true. Van Wilder. It was like eight years of yoga. I got seven credits from Dan Fort. I never took a bath there. No, I took psychology and English. All right. Two things you're really good at. What is a verb is so I'll never forget. I was, uh, when I was in my younger days, when I was talking to a female, I bragged about taking psychology and I said that, uh, uh, Sig Frieden, Royd, and then it's, it's a Sigmund Freud is the, the actual term and she's like the magicians.

No, it's not a term. I think it's the guy's name. Yeah. No, I know. She's like, yeah, they brought out the line when I said Sigmund Freud is the actual term, right? Sig Sigmund Freud is the tech psychology term. I think it's his name.

I think it was a guy. Yes, yes, yes. And I said Sig Friedenreuth and she goes, the magicians? Yeah, business studying psychology with a tiger. She's like, yeah, I'm leaving. I award you no points and we are all dumber from listening. I'm going to put this drink over the top of your head and throw the cup in your face and you can fuck off with your magician talk.

Quickly, before we wrap this thing up, Glenn Gullitzen was hired by the Dallas Stars. Crazy fact or part of this story is that when Jim Neal came over, one of his first moves was firing him and so it's like all of a sudden he's back kind of crazy but you know good for him he's been in Edmonton, he's done a really good job there as an assistant so good luck to him and Biz the other news that I don't know do you know Christian Fischer he retired? Yeah yeah I haven't had a chance

to call him and pick his brain, but, um, he, there was an article that came out and I just, you know, it's, I think has maybe lost his love for the game a little bit and who knows, maybe it's just for a year or two. And then he realizes that he still got some juice left in the tank. And I just think as his career progressed, he was getting more of a limited role. And he was not all of a sudden in that, you know, third, mostly fourth line slot. And it's hard, man. Like when you're not getting your touches and you're in and out of the lineup

and you're not feeling it, like I, I went through it personally where I was like legit seeing two, three minutes a game. And there were times he ends where I would come in and I'm like, fuck man, I'm sick of bag skating and not getting to actually play and, and play the game that I fell in love with. So I could see that side of it. I, I thought that he, he had more skill than I did and he had way more upside than I did. I just personally wished that he would have fought more. Cause I think that, I think that that would have added to his bag and made

him make him more desirable and he's a pretty big solid guy. So, but Hey man, if it's, it's not any anymore, it's not any anymore. You got to go off and be happy and do what you want to do. So I wish them all the best. Great teammate loved by the boys. Golfs with them all the time. Still here. I think he still hangs quite a bit around quite a bit and Scott's still here.

So, yeah, just congrats on a good run, man. I mean, it was still a great run. Congratulations, Christian Fischer. And I did love seeing Taves in that Winnipeg jersey at the press conference. He's sitting there saying, I don't care, I'll play on the fourth line. I don't give a shit. So you talk about a guy who probably lost his love a little bit and he's got it back. And that was a cool thing to see him in the Jets jersey in his hometown. So thank you to Matthew Schaefer. We're going to be off for a little bit, guys. Like even like this pod, you might be like, ah, you didn't know this. I don't give a flying fuck. I'm ready to check out. We're burnt out a little bit. We're burnt out. We're burnt out. I'd be going 10 months straight here.

We're going to take, I think three pods off. We're going to go best of next week and then back to back weeks where we're just going to kind of tee up a few, uh, a few pods that have back to back interviews. We've got some great ones banked for you. Um, and I'll keep that a secret, but it was a heck of a run guys. We love you. We appreciate all your support, but we we need some rest desperately I know I do and I'm ready to check out and go and enjoy and love my life and guys

Ending with a little good news here keep September 25th 26 and 27th open because Boston Chicklets Cup guys Boston Chicklets Cup you. Boston Chicklets Cup. You better fucking bring your A game, O'Shandal. Yeah, I'm looking at you, you piece of shit. You and that stupid Sea Grill hat.

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