Spittin Chiclets - Spittin' Chiclets Episode 574: Best of 2024-25 Season

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

On Episode 574 of Spittin’ Chiclets, Murls and Army help us take a look back at some of the most notable moments from this past season from Biz fighting off the Irish Travelers, Whit losing all of his crypto on meme coins and much much more. Tune in to this weeks BEST OF Episode and re-live some all-time chiclets moments. 00:00:00 - START 00:03:04 - Bizzy Brawls 00:43:31 - Whit Meme Coin Fail 00:50:44 - Charles Barkley Interview 01:30:56 - Brady Tkachuk Group Char before 4 Nations Fight 01:37:26 - Matthew Tkachuk Surprising Biz 01:50:49 - Post Cup Panther Celebration in the Pool 01:55:44 - Biz Ice Cream Sampling Story 02:12:25 - Roberto Luongo Poop Gate and Offer Sheet Story 02:19:08 - Markstrom Falling asleep on the Grey Hound Bus 02:24:37 - Gronk Falling asleep in his Patriots Draft interview 02:29:20 - Landeskog’s Recovery 02:43:59 - Gaudreau Brothers Tribute 02:58:04 - ETC. Support the Show: PINK WHITNEY: Take Your Shot with Pink Whitney BODYARMOR: Hydrate Hard with BODYARMOR FLASH I.V. and grab yours today at your local 7-Eleven convenience store. RO.CO: Connect with a provider at RO.co/CHICLETS to find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you and get $15 off your first order RHOBACK: Use code CHICLETS on https://rhoback.com for a generous 20% off your first purchase through the  end of this week  Barstool Golf - SKLZ: Go get the brand-new SKLZ x Spittin' Chiclets hockey training aids — now available online and in-store at Dick's Sporting Goods.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/schiclets

Hey, spittin' Chicklets listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is basketball sports. Our white whale, Sidney Crosby! Shave his head! Shave his head! Shave his head! Ryan Whitney, Paul Missouden, R.A., Mike Grinelli, Spitton Chicklets! Welcome, welcome. It's the Game Note boys here. Armie Murl, Nathan Pick, to present the best of for the 24-25 season of Spit and Chicklets Army.

You're here, you're selected because you're a media mogul. We see you on TNT, we see you on Sportsnet, we see you at all the Penguins games. And I mean, obviously I'm here because I thought of the idea of best of. I'm the one that invented award shows and in top 10 shows and all that. So the boys picked us to do this forum. And as always, spitting chiclets is presented to you by Pink Whitney. Of course it's summertime.

Murls, you got a tan on baby. Where are you at the beach? You must be at the beach. And when you're at the beach, Murls, there's no better thing to have than a nice bottle of Pink Whitney. Either shot, share it with friends, The nips, those are always good. I know we rip those on the golf course murals.

We're handing them all like crazy when the boys are rolling. You know, business in Jackson Hole, wits in Nantucket, you know they're sipping on that pink Whitney all summer. So people enjoy the summer, enjoy the pink Whitney, enjoy the sun. And when you're tanned and you're ripping pink Whitney too, and you're with your buddies,

and you look so much better. You look so much better with a tan, and you look so much better with a Pink Whitney shot in your hand. So cheers to the summer, cheers to the boys, cheers to Pink Whitney. Hell yeah, here we go, Murls. Game notes, it's been a while since you got inducted

in the Hall of Fame, and now off of that, good things are happening. The boys are like, hey, tee up this show for us. Yeah, maybe that's a reason I'm a Hall of Famer now. So we got a little celebration over here in Sweden just last night for it. So I'm still celebrating. What a weekend.

I can't thank you enough for coming out. It was really something special, all my family and friends, but enough of that. We'll save that for game notes next season. Cause we got to get right into this best of 24, 25 season of spitting chicklets and of course the number one story, maybe of all media. It was Biz taking on the Irish travelers in Scottsdale. And this, this story took on legs of its own, of course, when it just happened.

Um, and then it's like sports figures are tweeting it. Everyone was in on it. The story just grew and grew and grew. And of course, with the personality, the size of biz and what he has, and then to get into the story, the video comes out, everything happens. This episode was must watch when the boys dropped this after the shenanigans of Biz taking on those Irish travelers.

Well, here it is again. Massive story to get to with. Yeah, and this is kind of, all jokes aside, like a really, really messed up situation. And thank God you're okay, dude. Why don't you tell everyone what happened in the story and how lucky we are to be sitting here like talking to you right now after what could have been? Yeah, crazy night. Still kind of trying to process it all. I think I'm still a little bit of tort all in me, so I'm not really maybe feeling all the pain. But so I guess I'll

just start from the beginning. So we finished our outline call with Mr. Jeff Merrick slinging back all these ideas. Gonna be a great show. And I go to this place called Houston's. It's a Hillstone sister restaurant. Hillstone has a bunch of awesome spots all around Scottsdale. I think they're all over the country. One of the best ran chains known to man.

Very military like, the staff is incredible and there's one on Scottsdale Road, like I said called Houston's and I go there about three, four times a week. I'll just usually go in either with my buddy Joey Superstein, majority of the time I'm by myself and I just sit at the bar. So last night after that outline call, I go over there around like 8, 8.30. And it was packed in there, as it always is. And there wasn't a spa at the bar, so I went and waited, and then also put my name in for a seat

in case that popped up first. And I've gotten to know the staff pretty well. And because it was so busy, actually, the manager who I talk to sometimes, and even the assistant manager who's a big hockey fan, they were both in there. So they're all running court, trying to organize everything, get everybody what they need.

And eventually, instead of going to the bar, I get called up to go sit down at my seat, so not at the bar area. And so I'm putting in an order for a salad, and all of a sudden, you could just hear a commotion at the bar area. And the girl that I was that was taking my order like her jaw kind of dropped and I look over and there's this gentleman in a red golf shirt

along with about nine other guys and he's being asked to leave by the smaller assistant manager and this guy is just screaming in his face creating a ruckus The whole restaurant now is looking over there like what is happening? So assuming that would have diffused everything, luckily that guy ended up walking out of the restaurant after screaming in the assistant manager's face. And then he starts making his way back over to where the other nine guys were, where the main manager was trying to calm these guys down

and explain, hey listen, like if you don't have a seat in this area, you can't drink, that's just kind of the rule. I go there three, four times a week, even sometimes I never get to do that. That's just the rule. So you could see that it starts escalating more and more and like I said, these people are incredible people. They're amazing and amazing every time I go in there.

So this gentleman with a lime green golf shirt, who's kind of being the antagonist starts putting his finger in the manager's face and backing them up onto the backside of the bar. So I'm kind of starting to look around and like, nobody's really getting up and doing anything and probably everyone's watching this. Sorry. Everybody's watching. Yeah.

At this point, this is a commotion with nine golfers that are drunker than maggots, just creating a scene and obviously don't like being told no. They want to get a drink, they want it now, they ain't leaving without a fight. So after about watching this for probably about 15 seconds of him getting in his face and now the manager trying to remove this guy's arm from his face,

I get up and I go over. And I walk over, I grab the guy's arm, I said, listen, buddy, if you keep harassing and assaulting the staff here, I said, we're gonna go outside and we're gonna have some problems. The minute that left my mouth, the guy beside him starts throwing punches. And then next thing you know, there was about four guys swinging at me.

So we're in the middle of the bar area and I am just throwing. And I'm eating punches, I'm getting pushed of the bar area and we're, I am just throwing and I'm eating punches. I'm getting pushed against the bar. My shirt gets ripped off and as I'm kind of getting pushed out towards where the main door is, we're still swinging. I was, there's like a statue there in the entrance. If anyone's been to this Houston's, there's like a statue towards the right side. As you go to the bathroom and luckily I was able to kind of duck underneath that and make my way out the door. Well, this pack of high.

Looking back, maybe tried to stay in there. I don't know, man. I just didn't want to get cornered. I wanted to be able to continue to be able to back out. And like you said, all these scenarios go through your mind once this is all said and done. So we're all of a sudden now in the parking lot and they keep coming and we end up in kind of where the first rock area is where there's gravel and they get me down. They're throwing punches. I'm able to get back up. I lose my shoe and you know, I'm taking some and I'm giving some and I would say about the entire time there was about five to seven of them. time there was about five to seven of them, mostly five of them attacking and I kept having a backpedal because if you get caught up with one and then you go down then all of a sudden they're boot fucking you and you're done. So as I continue to back up and maybe involve with one of them and I've talked I've

talked to a few officers the videos are gonna come out they have surveillance I guess a majority of what's going on and And even towards the end, as we got to the CVS, like where it's on the same, in the same strip mall, but about 400 meters away, that's where it kind of ended. But I'll get back to where I was, where as I'm about halfway towards the CVS, I now see the gentleman who originally struck me, he's a bald guy, he's now assaulting the assistant manager again. He throws him up against a car and I'm saying, I go to the guys kind of coming at me as I'm

backpedaling, I'm like, what are you doing? I'm like, these people are good people. What the fuck are you doing? And they were seeing red and there was no stopping them and I just kept fighting away. Now we kind of rounded the corner where the CVS is and that ball gentleman who originally threw the first punch now starts making a beeline and sprints past all the guys coming at me and I catch them

with a nice right and buckled. I was very, very, very, very happy about that. That seemed to ignite them again. I make my way around the dumpster at the CVS and four of them got me. They got me on the ground and like listen if you know if you're ever in situations like that if you get caught on the ground they're gonna start kicking in the head and if you go unconscious like you don't know what the consequences are. I ate three kicks one in the neck

two in the head. I was able to get up And now at this point, I have no shoes on. I got my pants, no shirt, and I finally am able to run in the CVS, and then they didn't come in the CVS. And thankfully, the cops were called right away while the thing was going on in Houston's. And by the time the altercation was done, they were able to book five of these guys, and they got them either, whether it was in county jail

or the local jail and I'll get their names boys and and this is gonna be a thing like I'll I'll go after every single one of those fucks for not only going after this Unbelievable staff That was the only reason I Maybe I felt more of a connection because I go to this Houston restaurants three or four times a week and these people are always so kind to me that I felt the need at that point to step in especially after looking around and it's mostly female staff members, right? And these guys aren't the type of guys who fight or are able to deal with this type of situation

nor did they do anything to deserve this type of situation. And yeah, maybe I bit off a little bit more than I could chew, but I wouldn't have changed one thing about what I ended up doing. And I know I ate a few and I know that I'm in rough shape. I had to go to the hospital after. I think the whole ordeal probably lasted about three, three and a half minutes, like give or take, you know, 30 seconds. I was pretty gassed.

And I just want to thank all the police officers, the ambulance and firemen who came over and helped me out, checked the vitals and, you know, got me kind of back to normal for, to at least get home to sleep late in the night. And yeah, I was fucked up. I know it's already out now, so I figured I might as well address it on here. But like I said, like they got the five, I think they actually arrested five or six guys. There's one guy who's that's still out there I thankful they got it all on surveillance, but like I'm so fired up right now I would be willing to waive every single charge if I could go behind a fucking barn somewhere and go in one one v1 Every fucking guy one after the other I'm gonna I'm gonna do what I can to ruin these guys lives

and they're fucking assholes and I just like I said I kind of want my vengeance at this point and maybe things will change once I calm down But first time I'd ever been in a situation like that Just glad I didn't get KO'd on the ground there cuz yeah They would have just probably boot fuck myucked my head off, and who knows, right? So, fuck them. I'm glad I caught that bald fuck who was the antagonizer, and the one guy in that lime green golf shirt,

oh, fuck me, man. Oh, what I would pay to have him 1v1. What I would pay. First of all, our first concern is to you. I know you said pain medication may be wearing off soon. You'll find it where you're really in a lot of pain, but how are you? Oh, like I'll say, like I, I, I joked with my, uh, with my buddy, Jeff Jacobson on the phone. I said, Oh, I used to do this every Friday,

Saturday night, and then have the bus to the next city and unpack my gear at two in the morning. I used to have Jeremy Oblonsky bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-b it and yeah, it was just like I said, it's more just like pure shock and appreciate you guys caring and reaching out as well as all the other people who did. It's just more about getting my vengeance now than anything. So a couple things. So one, you're something else dude, like looking out for like the smaller people, looking out for anyone that's getting treated like that. Like, that's who you are. This pisses me off, like, to no end. Like, what an absolute group of scumbags to act like this. Then the fact that you you're fighting that many guys, you look like you do.

I'd be in a full body cast and you somehow like fucking survive this thing. Knocked out one of them. You're just you're I feel so bad about this dude I feel like sick to my stomach that you went through this thank God it was you because yeah like I said I kind of have like taken my blows before I got kicked in the throat like my throat I can't like it's it's all fucked up I got kicked on the side of the head my ear was bleeding like it's still kind of is and obviously you could see like my jaw's swollen.

I'll have a black eye tomorrow on the other side. Like I'm a little banged up. But once again, boys, it was just like crazy night. I figured I'd tell my side of the story. I'm really interested to hear what their side is. But thankfully there was witnesses who drove around by the CVS after and were like we saw the whole thing from inside the restaurant. We will take it we will do any police report as well as the staff who did it.

So shout out to the staff at Houston's and once again to the police officers, the paramedics and the firemen they were awesome. They calmed everything down and just I'm just glad I got in that CVS. Although the lady working at see it, see it. CVS is like, yes, sir. You can't be in here. And I'm like, ma'am, there is a pack of hyenas out there that is ready to attack me if I leave this door. She's like, no, you guys have any good sales?

No, no. She's like, no shirt, no, no shoes, no service. Sorry, picture homeless. Hey, the other thing, the discounts like, uh, do you sell pink Whitney nips in here? Yeah, it's awesome. They're selling here. You know what? I haven't been drinking, but you might have, I get a few pink Whitney nips. But my last thing is it's kind of shocking that you're, as this was going on and the whole restaurant,

everyone around is like watching this and you go over and then other people see what happens. I can't believe nobody else hopped in. That is surprising to me. Yeah, but basically, like I said, by the time we started the fight in the restaurant to the time we were at CVS, I would say that probably about at least two and a half, three minutes, like I said, give or take 30 seconds had gone by.

Maybe it was three and a half minutes. But the good news is though, is the fact that it lasted that long gave the time for police to get over there. And like I said, one of them is facing felony charges. He was in county jail last night. I think the other four or five guys were just in regular jail. They're still looking for one of the guys.

And like I said, boys, it's going to be very interesting when I get a hold of these of the guys. And like I said, boys, it's, it's going to be very interesting when I get ahold of these guys names and we need names. We need, we, we need to just ruin them. What did the officer say to you? They were just, they were, they just wanted to get the story, right? Like they hadn't, they, they got on the scene and we were at CVS, not at Houston. So they separated me from the people who came over, who were in the restaurant because they didn't want our stories to align like

we like we'd had a conversation or something which we didn't like that. The cameras will show all that and they were just trying to get all the surveillance and what they could. I don't know if there's going to be surveillance from inside the restaurant like showing this guy assaulting the the general manager for not getting him a cocktail, which was probably the last thing that he needed or a bump or whatever else they were on. And then yeah, they just were worried about getting the paramedics, but I don't really have much else to say. Boys, I appreciate you guys, Karen

and crazy night, crazy situation. I'll be on the panel on Wednesday. I'm just glad they didn't take my Chicklets out. Well, it's a wild story and I'll just finish. Thank God you're alright, dude. I'm interested to see the surveillance to see if it played out exactly how I remembered. Yeah, so I guess with that there's gonna be a lot more news coming from that and I think all Chicklets, the family of the fans of Chicklets are going to be looking to bury these guys somehow. Biz, how you doing buddy? What's going on, man? Yeah. You think the Scottsdale six were crushing pink Whitney nips on the golf course?

I hope not. I really hope they seem like maybe those, the other side, the dark side begins with the G. Maybe some key ketokes. Yeah. Yeah. And acid tabs. Yeah. Like, oh no, we don't want any pink Whitney, just give us crack and then we can go around sucker punching people. Yeah. I've seen guys fight on cocaine and these guys were definitely on cocaine, I'd have

to say. I mean, I use the term world win. This last week has been a world win for for old busy boy here and a lot has happened since I last came on this podcast to talk about went down and the the good news wit is based on my recollection after getting boot fucked and conked from the six irish travelers as we're calling them is about 95% of my recollection of the events based on what the cops have seen on surveillance is accurate.

So I didn't fabricate anything that ended up going on. You're not a fabricator. What I did mess up is the fact that the guy that I knocked out, he wasn't, in fact, bald. He was a little thin on top. He was a little older as I remembered, but he was not bald when I buckled him to his knees after giving him a right, right to the temple as he sprinted towards me. Um, the bad news as of right now is I have not

seen the surveillance. I am an understanding that there is janky surveillance from inside the Houston's, which I'm still shocked that today's day and age to 2024, we're sending rocket ships to the moon and Mars, but yet we can't have clear cut surveillance. But the good news and bad news for me, I guess, is they do have surveillance from across the street. When I finally become visible past the dumpster after knocking out that inbred fuck is four of the gentlemen catching me.

One of them tackles me, holds me down as the other gentlemen do punch and boot fuck me in the head. Now, since the podcast came out last week, I knew that they'd been arrested, but the names have finally arrived. So we should probably list off those names. Okay. And I'll read them to you folks.

So everybody in the world. If these are their real names, who knows? Correct, that's another thing too. We don't know what we're dealing with here. They have fake addresses, fake companies, scamming people with all asphalt and painting companies apparently. So let's start with the top guy, top left, John Carroll. So John Carroll is brother to William Carroll,

the old fuck that I knocked out with my right hook. And John Carroll is actually one of the guys that was trying to boot fuck my head off my shoulders like he was kicking a 50 yard field goal. Now I guess I'm not so angry at him as I am the young guys and maybe he wanted vengeance on me considering I knocked out his inbred coked out brother William Carroll. And moving along here Sean Daly. Now Sean Daly is the only guy I didn't get a leather from the police about because when you're a victim of these types of things, at least in Arizona wit, is you receive these letters like Basie victim letters telling you what the people who assaulted you have been booked on and it gives you a little information and background.

Now he did have a video come out on TMZ that was released where he went in front of the judge the next day where they basically said that they have a court date set for December 10th. They have to come back so a few of these guys if not all the guys arrested are out-of-state guys and I guess a lot of these Irish travelers hang out in or are in Dallas the Fort Worth, Texas area Okay, so that's my understanding as to where these guys live now this little fuck Who went up front of the judge who basically insinuated? He's not gonna be coming back for his December 10th court date until she was stunned by his response and was like

No, you have to come back. That's that little midget Sean daily. Okay. He said, she said, will you be back? He said, I'll try. I'll try. Like, I'll try to go to the grocery store, honey. I don't know if I have enough time. No, I'll try to come back to court. One of the other young fuckers, Henry Mesker was one of those four guys past the dumpster that was throwing punches and kicks I feel a little bad for this old fuck I don't know how he got roped in all this Edward Jennings

But we're gonna undercover a little bit of his past and a little bit of his family matters a little bit later when we bring on a detective now the main guy later when we bring on a detective. Now, the main guy that I would love to get locked in a room with is this Danny Bradley fuck. He was the one I described to having the lime green shirt. Now, after I said my piece on the last podcast, I didn't know any of these guys' history, right? My assumption was, is these guys were on a golf trip.

They had one too many cocktails, they ended up coming over to Houston's, it was the wrong setting for them, and they just had poor judgment, were being complete assholes, and then we ended up getting into the debacle that we got into. Well, sure as shit, not only a day later, maybe a little after 24 hours, this gentleman a day later, maybe a little after 24 hours, this gentleman online, he goes by the name of Shay Stevens. He ends up dropping a video where these hooligans were at a golf club just hours before in the Scottsdale area.

They'd finished a round and at six o'clock at this Raven Golf Course, the bar closes. Well, these gentlemen wanted another cocktail and they didn't want the bar to close. Well, this fucking Danny Bradley surveillance video ends up coming out of him assaulting one of the staff members and in the meanwhile, ends up connecting with one of the waitresses as well.

Now, for any of you following this case, you've probably been on our Twitter accounts and we've been retweeting and posting this video. This is exactly what went down at the Houston's, okay? Because after the incident, you're thinking to yourself and even some comments online from about, let's say a few percent of the people commenting, ah, you know, you shouldn't stick your nose

in other people's business. And although, you know, partly that you know, you shouldn't stick your nose in other people's business. And although, you know, partly that is true, I shouldn't, but when I look over for 30 seconds and see that same fucking look in Danny Bradley and those hooligans eyes as you see in that video of them assaulting the people at the golf club, I just got to go with my intuition. And maybe I should have just sat down and waited for my traditional salad from Houston's and mited my own business. But what if that fucking Danny Bradley cocks his right and ends up feeding one of those

managers at Houston that same right hook that he did at the golf club? What if one of those guys drop and next thing you know they got a conky or even worse, they fucking hit their head and they're on a fucking breathing tube so I used my judgment looking over there by the bar area with to know that something was up and After he was in the manager's face Even when he backed up just a little bit the stance that he had told me This guy's just waiting for the manager to say something that he doesn't like until he feeds his fucking jaw with a right.

Hey, and credit to Danny Bradley. He has some good hands. He can throw down, and I think he caught me with a couple, and I never really got a chance to get him because of all the fucking hyenas that were surrounding me the entire time. But I'll tell you what, if these fucking guys wit, don't show up for their court date, I'm going

to let the legal system take their approach and handle the business accordingly. But if him and those other fucks avoid it and they try to keep hiding, I'm going to do anything in my fucking power to smoke them out. That is a fucking promise, my friend. That is a fucking promise. We have Jake Middleton on this pod. That's a Billy Guarantee. That's his GM. We got to get that in there.

Biz, I will say a couple of things from this. When you mentioned the golfers, yeah, like they're on a golf trip and you see these six, I said it's six of the most Minna fan looking people in the world. If you don't know the Kirk Minahan show, that's what his live show looks like. There's like a thousand of those guys. Now, they're not Irish travelers. They're good people. But that's the look. I saw the look. I said, what an odd group to be together. Is it grandfathers? Is it father and son? Well, come to find out this was a golf strip. There was 57 of them. 57 of these nooks. Now, not fair to say that all the people are like these clowns going around abusing people

and sucker punching people just because they can't get another drink. But just to know that to find out there are Irish travelers, we had no idea who they were. And then to read and kind of be learning a little bit about this community, I guess, it's nuts. They travel, I would say it's 0% chance that these people show back up to court. Like, zero. I think they're just gone with the wind.

They're on to the next town. They're scamming people. And that's why, go ahead, Biss, go ahead. Well, I was gonna say, the thing that infuriates me the most is when that Sean Daly fuck, that little midget inbred, he says, oh yeah, I'll try to make it back. They don't even hit him with bail. Yeah. Like they don't gotta put any fucking money back to ensure that, Hey, but mind you folks with all the scams, they're

running in a Fort Worth, Texas area and all around the country. These guys are driving around in brand new Corvettes, brand new Escalades. They're turning over new vehicles every six months. They're at Pebble Beach. They're golfing at Pebble Beach. They're going on these luxurious vacations. From our understanding, from our buddy Shea Stevens, who's been working like 23 hour days trying to get every bit of information on these guys, they tried to book a PJ out of Texas. They tried to fucking wrangle up the crew and apparently the larger group of Irish travelers

are upset at these six gentlemen because now all the attention they've brought on on all these scam artists. These guys wanna go scam people flying under the radar. But these gentlemen... They're getting the elderly. They're getting the elderly on like asphalt and pavement jobs. Yeah, it's crazy.

That's why we have a detective coming on Biz. We need to do some work. And the reason I want these guys behind bars, and the reason I want these guys to pay is not only because they fight dirty, but when I was on the ground past that dumpster wit, they were trying to kick my fucking head in. And if I would have gotten knocked out there, like their buddy, William Carroll, the one that I bent through his fucking knees, they would have kept kicking me in the head with. They

would have kept kicking me even if I was knocked out. This is how these savages operate. So I want them getting everything that's fucking coming to them. These people are scum of the earth, low life, inbred dirt bag losers. Yeah, I mean, the videos that have come out about people that they're related to also have been in the news. There was one of these guys, aunts was like beating their child, it was four years old. And it's wild to see it's this big of a group of absolute scum. But I think it's a non-political take to say the justice system's a little fucked up right now. I think that you see people that get out of prison and commit crimes and then you look at what they were in prison for and how they were released. And then you see this case and you brought it up.

The no bail thing. And I always thought Arizona was a pretty hard state. I think it was. They look like the biggest scrubs. They look like the biggest. They look like exactly what you think they'd be doing. Going around sucker punching people and the Danny Bradley kid. He did. It does look like he has a cut on his forehead.

Did you you must have hit him with one at some point. So the only chance I would have got to actually make contact with him was either in the restaurant when it originally started. That was like a blur to me. I'd have to see surveillance on who I connected with, who got me, how I ended up on the ground, how my tarp got ripped off.

When I first got out the door, remember, so you guys remember me describing that the guy, I think it was that Sean Daly fuck, the little midget that got let out no bail, he had already been asked to leave the restaurant after screaming in the assistant manager's face. So after I started getting in the Donnybrook, when I got brought near that statue,

you said, oh, you probably should have stayed in the restaurant. My thought was always, no, I always have to have the ability to back up because it's never gonna be a fair fight that the way that it all started. But when I was going out of the restaurant, I knew that that kid had already been let out. So I couldn't just slowly back out and face those guys

because he would have probably sucker beat from behind, right? So when I got out, I tried to figure out where he was. Sure enough, he was at the end of the entrance way where the tarp covers the entrance way at Houston's. And I had to run past him and then open towards the group. That's when, as I'm backing up, I ended up tripping on the curb as they're swinging at me. One of my Reebok shoes falls

off and that's when they start to boot fuck me and punch me on the ground closer to the restaurant. I'm able to get back up on my feet but with at that point I got no tarp on, I got one shoe, I have no leverage really to like stand up because I got nothing sticking to the ground. I believe at that point it was on my front foot. So if I'm falling through with my punches, so that's kind of where I was fucked the entire time. Like I had no fucking shoe on my one foot and then ended up losing my other shoe

past the other dumpster. So it was just a fucking debacle from the beginning. I'm just so fired up at the fact that these guys get to leave with no bail and all I get is these fucking letters with their name on it. They're done. Like, we ain't gonna see these guys again. Maybe because of the news it's made,

maybe that means it's time to bring in the detective that we hired to see if we can get some news from him Do you agree with that? Yeah, I think it's time. We should bring on detective Dale What's up, boys? What's up detective Dale? Thank you so much for joining us, especially I know you're busy looking after this case and we just basically wanted to bring you on to ask you a little bit more Research and questions about these six hooligans that assaulted me, tried to gang beat me and leave me for dead. Oh, for sure. So I've just come since that's happened. I've just indulged myself in this whole crime underworld that no one had an idea what was going on. It's like Gotham City,

like you pick up a rock and there's bugs just everywhere. So now I've I'm getting into the scams of it. I'm trying to get the feel of what they're doing. Couple petty crimes. I'll go to the bar. I'll be like, Hey, buddy back there said he's got my beer tab. I had I'm like, thanks for the beers boys. Starting small. You're starting small. while just dipping the loaf of bread. Make it for boiler makers kind of thing. Yeah. And it's addicting.

I gotta tell you, these guys, I've been doing it for years. The older guys, Edward Jennings for decades. And they're part of a bigger, the Irish travelers, which said earlier, there was 57 of them. And they've been doing this since the 1900s. They like came over. And the reason they all look inbred is because apparently they all do crossbreed. They marry within family.

That's why they all look the same, like mutants. So you're saying they're, they fuck their cousins, like not their direct sisters. It's just more of like, Oh, I'm going to pick somebody from the other side, but still somewhat blood related. Yeah. Not as bad. You know what I'm saying? I can't confirm or deny, but I'm confirming their cousin

fuckers. Okay. Their cousin fuckers. So not, not direct family, but indirect with the, like the, yeah. Okay. And they'll have all the, the painting, the roof jobs, their big ones, paving. So they'll, they'll go town to town and they'll knock on doors and be like, Hey buddy, or the top of the morning buddy is your Irish and be like, Hey, looks like your driveway is pretty crap.

We just did a job down the road. We have extra asphalt We can bang this out today if you want if you want to sign this contract so the person will sign it'll be like Three grand five grand older people Dale older people I believe to older Pete Yeah, the seniors that's what I so real scum Scum of the earth to just screw over an older person that doesn't know. And they'll do it that day. It'll look alright, but a biz fraction here. They'll do like 3 8s of the job. They'll do like the top layer of asphalt. So like they'll come home. It looks fine. Next morning it's already crumbling and they'll be and they'll tell them too when they sign up they'll be like if you don't like it free charge

So of course, they're like, yep, I'll sign right here Free charge they'll call them be like, hey, I don't like it. They're already gone. They're in the next town Dale outside of the petty crimes What was the the worst of the worst as far as the stuff mentioned in the in the thread by Stephen Shea? So here's your detective work. Edward Jennings, he had... Allegedly. Allegedly, this is all allegedly. His brother-in-law had a housekeeper who was 72 years old and he paid out a life insurance on her.

And then the next week she was brutally murdered. E that's alleged. That's all alleged. And then the FBI, I don't think they got paid out from what I've read. They stopped a $5 million life insurance to go to his brother-in-law and Edward. So, so what I've read from, I think it's Shay Stevens, the thread, and go to it everyone and check all, it's long because there's so many different things. What I've read too is they've kind of mastered a way of scamming people and avoiding like legal trouble.

It's stuff where they're stealing from people, they're gone, but it's all so hard to catch, it's so hard to catch them, right? And then like these courts are so busy and full, these things, they just disappear. Things just disappear and that's why they're able to get away with it constantly. I would say the biggest part being that they're gone. There's no record of them. They're not, dude, they're not like online until some of these guys were tweeting apparently after the pictures were released, Biz. They were tweeting things about the incident. Since this has happened,

their Twitters have been completely deleted, they're erased. But for the most part, I don't think Irish travelers are living online and have any sort of info to find about them. Detective, did you read any of those comments about why they were firing back originally, thinking maybe this wouldn't have escalated to the place that it's gotten now? Oh, for sure. When it first came out, I'm like,

all of these are just like petty losers. Then you start digging into it. They're coming at Barstool personalities for years too. They're like chirping in the comments, like Frank the Tank. What did they say to Frank the Tank? I think they said fat fuck. Oh, you should get fucking thrown in prison for that alone. Exactly.

That was the least that that was racist shit. I mean, they were fucking clowns. Like, at what point do these people actually end up behind bars? This is shit. I mean, they were, they were fucking clowns. Like at what point do these people actually end up behind bars, Detective? It's Scott. It's we got Trump in office. He's got a crack down on this now. Get make America great again.

Do you think he's actually going to help resolve this issue? They have all different addresses for their business companies, but we have the six names out now. So when they go around, now we have the names. They're out in the public. Detective, do you have any idea how they're able to just keep affording to buy these new cars and never get busted? If they have the funds to pay back these people who they've scanned, how are they not being

booked? I mean, it's clear that they have assets in their name. And then after every six months, when the new Corvette or the new Escalade ends up being a little bit out of date, they go get a new one. They have this whole scheme. Like they're not just like little petty guys. They're professionals at what they do. They have like a legit fake IDs for when you sign up for their company it'll be an address of a random other paving company. So someone will look it up. They be like, oh, that's a, what's their one affordable road and drive. That was their one paving company, but that's a legit company in another jurisdiction. So they, they have it all dialed out.

Detective, you're going to have to get to work on this thing. I know you have already began, but I guess it just begins now with you, with you maybe finding these guys. Now, have you talked to Trump directly about this and cracking down on this? We've had a couple of pops. I think we got the wrong detective. I think we got the wrong detective. I think we got, uh, yeah, the wrong detective

here. Um, detective, uh, any other like crazy tweets that you wrote down that you'd like to read out that were even more surprising and unraveling this entire case? Because at a certain point here, we're going to move on and, uh, I will continue to update everybody on what's happening throughout this. As I mentioned in eight days as of right now when we're recording, they are set to meet in front of a judge in the Scottsdale area. Now neither of us, myself and Whit think that these guys are going to show up for the court date. Surprisingly, I didn't get any paperwork on the one guy that we saw the video from,

Basie insinuating he wasn't gonna show up. I did get a piece of paper on Danny Bradley. I got one also on Henry Peter Mesker, who's another one of the young fucks. And then John Gerald Carroll is the brother of the William John Carroll, who I knocked out. And last but not least, the other name I have here is Edward James Jenning, who's the old guy

who I'm letting off the hook. Those four first names I mentioned are guys that I would like to get back in the ring with, 1V1, if the court and legal system does not take action. So I don't know how we're gonna make that possible, but if you own a barn in that Fort Worth, Texas area, I would love to meet these fucking scoundrels behind there. And we're gonna keep it a clean one V one fight this time,

and then we're gonna roll them through one round after the next. And I'm gonna buckle them just like I did that William John Carroll. Cause John Gerald Carroll is the guy who tried to kick my head like a goddamn football. A very, very crazy story to say the least. Remember, detective, this is alleged.

This is alleged stuff. Biz is not alleged, because Biz is actually like, I'm gonna go one-on-one behind the bar, but the murder stuff, that was all alleged. Now, detective, any other crazy tweets or is it time to let you go and get back to work and enjoy your pops? That Sean Daly, his brother, he was arrested the same day

as your little scuffle for prostitution. So I don't know if he was had a prostitution ring going or he was the prostitute. Like was he selling his body for money or was he running it? I've tried looking into it, it just says prostitution. So I'm going to say he was the prostitute. Was he fucking cousins on OnlyFans to earn money for the family?

That's what it's looking like. Okay. Dale, you don't follow that page on your OnlyFans, do you, detective? No, no sir. No OnlyFans for me. There's plenty of free porn out there. Yeah, we're asking the questions to you now. Thank you very much. Detective Dale, we appreciate your time and I hope that you can undercover some more things

when you're not enjoying too many pops and actually get to work and tell Mr. Trump or President Trump that is that we need to crack down on all this scamming inbred bullshit that we got going on in Texas and the rest of these American states. And we need to clean up our streets before people at Houston's can't even start enjoying their traditional salads and they're getting knocked out left and right, because this is fucking bullshit.

God bless America. See you memes. Well there it is, the craziness that was and is the Irish traveler story. I don't know if there's been that like anything that has come of this since, but I forgot just how insane that story was. It came and went and biz handled it like he did. I mean, I, there's still a definite chip on his shoulder. Merle's like that.

That was just absolutely crazy. I remember getting the texts from him because I think I had woken up in the morning over here and he's like, yeah, I just went six on one. And my thinking, I'm like, oh, six girls probably going biz. And the next thing you know, he's fighting six guys. The video came out and he broke it all down. It was wild scene and, and it's just biz being a good guy. And that's the number one lead off story for us.

Yeah. Houston's old Houston's his family restaurant. I mean, every little line from that is so big. You mean you walk down the street and you talk to people and they, they bring that up still and they talk about, uh, Houston's, they talk about biz, they talk about Irish travelers. So that's just an all time story to get things leaded off. Murls, which takes us into our next big moment in Chicklets this year.

It's all time. It's just a great story. The Pasha, Witt, meme coin story, Merlz. Yeah, this all started in the Four Nations. We were sitting around in the lobby waiting to go to one of the games and that's when all these coins were going and Dave was into it and all that. But here comes the full story. Witt took a beating, but we have, we have, what do you call it? Just artillery on Pasha now for the rest of the time.

I want to know more about Pasha fucking you on the meme coins. Yeah, I mean this guy, he's something else. Let me tell you, we get to Montreal and he's like this meme coin junkie. It's all he's been talking about. Ask Dave when he's dropping a coin. Ask Portnoy when he's dropping a coin. Dude, shut up. Enough. But finally I'm like, all right,

you're telling me I can make a thousand X my money. Like what a ridiculous statement. Anyone ever tells you you can make a thousand X on your money? Just run. Just run. Run for the hills, leave your phone, don't ever talk to the person again.

So he sets me up with this phantom wallet. I have no clue what I'm doing. I bought Ethereum. I actually bought, I remember, it was like January or February of 2018 because Ryder was like a newborn. He was born November 28th, 2017. My brother Colin came over who's like kind of been into Bitcoin for a while. Like he was on the Bitcoin train then and he was like, hey, you should buy some of this Bitcoin. Should buy some of this Bitcoin. I'm like, I don't know.

I was like, all right, fine. At the time, I remember a Bitcoin was like, I want to say it was like $12,000 or like $13,000. And when I went to, I think I had say 10 grand or 11 grand. I was like, all right, I'll put this in. And I couldn't get one full Bitcoin. So whatever the price was, I was like $1,000 or $1,500 left being able to buy one Bitcoin. He's like, no, you don't need to buy a full one. Having eight tenths of a Bitcoin is fine. I was

like, no, no, no, I need one. I don't want a piece of it. I want one. So he's like, all right, fine. You're not listening to me. He's like, I'm telling you, you're making a mistake, but buy Ethereum. Buy Ethereum. I'm like, all right. Dude, at one point it was like 47 grand, I think. And then it was down to like- So your 10 grand or whatever it was had now reached 47 grand. At one point it was like right around there, like high up, maybe 42, but it was in the 40s, I remember. And then currently it was like 33,000, right around there. I'm very close, I'm not exact on these numbers. And I'm like, Posh, yeah, Phantom Wallet,

crypto, meme coins, blah. I was like, all right, dude, just show me what to do. And I moved over whatever, the 32, 33 grand into the Phantom Wallet, and then, okay, I'm ready to go. He's like, you gotta be ready to fire, you gotta be ready to fire, you gotta be ready to fire you gotta be ready to fire and I'm pulling into the Canton sportsplex and my phone rings hey he dropped his coin he dropped his coin he dropped it let's go let's go let's go so I'm like ah I run it I get

riders skates on I'll be right out there and I'm facetiming with this asshole and I have my screen share on so we're fac FaceTiming but he's looking at my screen, he's telling me what to do, press this button, buy this, sell this, transfer this. Ah, okay, okay, okay, okay. Boom, I get this greed, it's a greed coin. Like so mad at him I could scream right now. But I got my greed coin.

I get on the ice, like they've already started the line skater, I'm like sorry boys, I had to use the bathroom. Meanwhile I was trading meme coins from some asshole named Pasha who taught me how to do it the king buddy I get off the ice I pull up my Phantom I got 800 bucks I lost $32,000. $32,200. Buddy, it's a 50 minute practice.

I was six minutes late. Oh, that's an expensive practice. I texted Pasha. I said, you're the... I don't even know if I have to... I said, you can go fuck yourself, buddy. He's like, I lost money too. I love the...

What's he doing? What's Dave doing? It's crashing. It's crashing. I'm reading all these texts. I was like, I had my Ethereum dude. It had been sitting in there for eight years, slowly building, slowly building, slowly building. Let's look under the Ethereum.

Let's look under the Ethereum. No, don't. Pasha, come on down. It's worth a billion. I'm gonna put on this concert on like a deserted island with like Ja Rule. If you wanna give me like 30 grand, you can come fire fest, greed fest. It's greed fest.

Greed fest. And we asked Pasha a few questions about the beancoins. And I'm throwing tomatoes at him the whole time. Can we get Pasha on? Pasha's the biggest mush in the history. All time. Bring him on. Pasha got me thrown out of the staple center. First of all, I first smaller clarify one thing

I'm not a mean coin junkie like this is the house mean How many times now we talking about meme coins? Oh, I thought I was gonna tell you I thought I was gonna Ted talk with launch a coin. I thought this is like of course biz ends up on top again He's like Pasha cut the shit. This is all fake. Nothing's real. You're gonna lose all your money This new biz was ahead of the game No, no, no Well, one thing we got to suffer right is like proper crypto like Bitcoin Ethereum Which I'm a bunch of and I'm very long-term ball shot. Oh the stuff you had me sell the stuff you had me sell

and and this shit which is falling gambling which what you knew was gambling like you're acting like I had a gun to your Head like you knew it. Yo, way you knew was gambling like you're acting like I had a gun to your head like you knew Yo, I know it was gambling. I didn't think I'd come off from doing a two-on-one drill with seven-year-old and have no money left I don't know what's worse your your your stock advice or the your quality of sound right now on this guy This guy so then he texts me he said something else to me the next morning Oh, you know what he writes. You know what he writes. It was my birthday the next day. He said something else to me the next morning. Oh, you know what he writes? You know what he writes? It was my birthday the next day.

He sold his mic. He writes, awkward timing, but happy birthday, Witt Dogg. I said, fuck you, buddy. I don't need a happy birthday from you. Oh. Get this guy off. Get this guy off. His audio stinks, his team stinks, he stinks.

He got you a couple scratch tickets to make it up Gotta get lucky and win it back though He should what was the what's the bet that you have with him? Isn't it? Don't you guys have a big bet? I'm not talking about it. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about no, I'm not You then I bet him 500 bucks that the Rangers make the playoffs. That's one of the bets, but there's another bigger one. He ain't getting paid on that if you lose. Like, come on.

Oh, no. He shouldn't. He's getting paid on nothing. Lost me. Lost me at Toyota Corolla. How about him saying a bunch of new disclaimer up instead of the delusional Devils fan, it's gonna be don't take stock advice from fucking Pasha

There it is there it is an epic story of failure in the meme coin world and hockey kids hockey practice That gets in the way, of course, you got to be sharp. You got to be on your toys toes I have not dipped my toe murls into the crypto of you No This that wit saved me with losing this money saved me because I was starting to move some money around to try to get involved. That story ended it for me and that is just awesome. And, and that's number two, number three up on our list, the great sir

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Relax, man. I'm relaxed. We're gonna win tonight We're going back to Toronto for game seven I'm not sure what I'm not sure what happened the other night. That was just bad, bad, bad, bad. But we're gonna win game six tonight. My boy, Austin Matthews is gonna score. It's gonna be a blowout too, gonna be a blowout. Whoa.

Whoa. What are you smoking Chuck. You know, I haven't been smoking but they're gonna win tonight. I can't wait to watch the games like so tonight is a big night. If you like sports, you got game six tonight and you got game six tonight in New York, Boston. Tonight is a big night. I cannot wait to go out.

I'm gonna have a few cocktails, quite a few I might add, but I'm going to a sports bar tonight so I can watch both games. This is a big night, brother. It's a big night, I can't wait. If you like sports, if you really like sports, tonight is a big night. That game, Florida, Toronto, Boston, New York,

it doesn't get any better. I cannot wait for tonight, I'm not gonna lie. Last night was fun, tonight is magnificent. Chuck, you said it's gonna be a 4-1 or 4-0 final and what makes you believe that they're going to bounce back like that and bring it back to Toronto? You know, Toronto is my favorite city in the world. That, I'm not sure what happened the other night.

That was a bad, bad thing. But you're going to find out a lot about your people. This ain't got nothing to do with the game of hockey. Tonight is about, yo, this is the most important game. In fairness, it's probably the most, like I say, I was listening to y'all a little bit earlier. We don't have to win the game, but we got to make this like a real game. We got to like this is the most important game in probably everybody's life because if you don't compete tonight, if you do not compete tonight, you like this says a lot about your competitive balance in your life

like yeah we can lose we can lose they probably they might lose but this is all about you know what? Let's let people know we were in the building So I think it's a big night for all the guys on the leaf I really do I truly mean that like I always tell guys we don't have to win But we have to let people know we actually gave a shit about our thing. I mean necessarily Chuck I got like We have to let people know we actually gave a shit about our thing. I mean necessarily. Chuck, you look at a game like this and like you said, it's a career defining game for some guys.

And in what touched on earlier, some guys are born with that dog in them and some guys aren't. If you're not one of those guys, which it kind of looks and I love Mitch Marner, but his playoff performance performance it doesn't really look like he has that dog do you think it's something as an athlete that you can just turn on like that and you're like hey you know what it's game six I gotta put I gotta bring it tonight and I gotta be that dog even though you're not born with that in your DNA well number one that's a great question, like we have this conversation all the time. I said a different between Michael, LeBron and Kobe.

First of all, they're three of the greatest players ever. But LeBron's a nice guy. Nobody ever said that shit about Michael and Kobe. Nobody ever said, man, that Michael Jordan and Kobe Brown, they're nice guys. Nobody ever said that shit. Michael and Kobe, ever said man that Michael Jordan Kobe Brown. They're nice guys. Nobody ever said that shit Michael and Kobe they were dangerous. They kill your ass LeBron's great great great, but he's a nice guy

He had to learn to be competitive because the killer instinct it's not something like I've never Michael's one of my best friends ever. And I got to know Kobe a little bit. They will kill you to win. LeBron, he wants to win. He wants to win.

But LeBron at the end of the day is a really nice guy. So you can't learn to be a natural born killer, but you can learn to be like, hey, I want you to know I was throwing fists with you. Now you might kick my ass, but I want you to know you've been in a fight. So as far as Mitch and those guys, like I say, they don't have to win,

but the Panthers need to know like, yeah, we can't take these guys for granted. We need them to know they've been in a damn dog fight. So I guess I'm not sure I want to answer your question honestly. I don't think everybody's born a natural born killer. But everybody has a situation where like, hey, you're gonna kick my ass, but I want you to know you've been in a fight. Yeah, I need you to know, yeah, I'm not sure I can beat you, but I'm gonna, as we say where I'm from,

I'm gonna try your ass, I'm gonna try you. So that's really the game tonight. And the reason that's really important tonight tonight because of that dud in game five I'm not like I was sitting there watching that game because we were on and Bez knows we always have hockey and basketball along and I'm sitting there watching that game I'm like damn that can't happen under any circumstances you need somebody to know like them We're in a real fight right here. And that's all I tell people. That's all I ask of my athletes That's all I ask listen. Hey everybody wants to win the championship

But I I can say this about myself. I ain't never quit. I ain't never quit Did you ever have a moment where you had to call out a teammate? Like, because that's what you wonder about the Leafs. Is there anyone in that room, not the coaches, players that is telling guys like, wake the fuck up? Personally, did you have to get guys going occasionally? Or was that something that maybe didn't happen in your locker rooms? No, no, no, no. That's part of being a leader. Like, hey, we ain't got time for no sensitivity. We ain't got no time for BS.

Like, that is, so I'll tell you this. So we went away for a week before the playoff just to get ready. And he actually just passed away. Oliver Miller, rest in peace, great dude, great dude, we're gonna miss him. So we go away for training camp for a week because back in the day you used to get a bye if you had the best record. So we go to Prescott, Arizona and Oliver is screwing around. This is my first year in Phoenix. I said, Oliver, I said, Yo, quit screwing around. We're going to the finals and we're

gonna play the Bulls. I says, I think I'm the best player in the world. We're I says, I need you to focus. He gives me a bunch of shit and we end up fighting. And I said, yo man, I apologize for punching you. And I was in the wrong, true story. I said, I was in the wrong. I said, yo man, I came to Phoenix to win the championship. I don't have time for BS right now. And you are screwing around. We came here a week, we got a week to get ready for the playoffs.

And he was screwing around and I end up punching him. And I want to make it clear. I was 100% wrong. He just passed away like a month ago, but I was like part of being a leader. You have to call people out. You have to call people out and you know, he was a great kid, but I was like, yo man, this is my first time I got a team good enough to get to the finals.

So to answer your original question, like I said, yo man, to be a leader, you gotta do it. You gotta do it, plain and simple. But for them, and outside looking in obviously, they're big dogs, the guys who are getting paid the most, they don't play with that edge that you have to play with in playoffs, right? So for my question, it's like, who's calling them out in the locker room? Because when you're, and it happens in every sport, especially in a market like Toronto where these guys, they're looked at like they're gods, right? So my question is

who in that locker room is gonna call them out? And obviously you're a superstar player and the best player on that team and one of the best to ever do it. But I think in that crew, it's gotta come from a third, fourth line guy. But are those guys gonna take that well? Are they gonna listen to it? You know, you know number one, you're 100% correct. What I what what what I would love to have seen the other night.

One of those guys remember when Messier came out like yeah, we're going to go and we're going to win this game and we're going to win the series. I would have loved now you're going to look like a total fucking idiot. If it doesn't work. Okay, let's get that out the way. What I would have loved for one of their stars to come out and says, Hey guys, I apologize for what happened tonight. That's not Toronto. That's not the least hockey, but we're gonna go down the sunrise and we're gonna win Game six. I give an example. and we're going to win game six. I give you an example. So we're the number one seed in the East, in the West, excuse me. We get shocked at home in game one and game two. It would have probably been one of the biggest chokes in NBA history. We lose

the first two games at home. And I'm devastated. It's my first year in Phoenix. I said, hey, we're going to the Phoenix. We're going to play the Bulls for the championship. So we lose the first two games. Lakers shock us. And I'm sitting in the locker room and I'm like, I don't even know what to say to the guys. And so Paul Westfall, rest in peace, does a press conference. He says, guys, get a Lakers to their flowers. They won the game, but we're gonna go and win the next three games.

I don't even know he's saying this. And obviously me being who I am, I got 25 reporters rushing toward me. And I'm trying to figure out how to spin this. I'm not gonna lie, cuz I'm in shock a little bit. The guy says, hey, Paul Westphal said, you guys are gonna go to LA, win the next two games, then y'all gonna come home and win the game. These people gonna say what a great series it was.

And like I say, my head, I'm trying to figure out how to spin this to the press. They run toward me. Everybody says, I says, coach is right. We're gonna go to LA, we're down 2-0, we're gonna win the next two, we're gonna come home and win in five. If you're gonna say what a great series it was. I wish the other night somebody on the Maple Leafs have a said, yeah, tonight was a bad night. Tonight was a really bad night. We should never lose a game.

Five zips because it really was this court that late goal was I don't even count that but we're going to go down to Florida. We're going to win. We we're gonna come back and win I would have like like I say no you could look like a fool I want to make that perfectly clear well I couldn't look any dumber than they look like right now Chuck I know but that's my point I wish one of the leaders would have said that so hey you know what I I I I I apologize for what just happened, but we're gonna go down to Florida and win a game and we're coming back and we're gonna win in seven.

I would have loved for one of those guys to say that instead of being, because I saw the interviews after the game. I saw it with the coach, like they were defeated at that moment. But hey, man, the series is not over. It's not over at all Chuck I was just gonna kind of switch gears here away from just Toronto and Florida Specifically like you've obviously been a huge advocate of hockey like you've been very vocal about it. You follow the playoffs religiously What is it about hockey that? follow the playoffs religiously. What is it about hockey that

they're going to play? Hey, I told you the Edmonton Oilers were gonna win the Stanley Cup. I had to actually had them playing the Maple Leafs. But the orders are gonna win the cup. But the answer your question, Chuck. Hey, he's the Oilers guy. Hey, I'll say this biz. I admire and respect hockey players. Let me tell you why they don't have all the bullshit that goes on in the NBA. Those guys are committed to winning the Stanley Cup, which it should be like if you play sports. If you play sports, your only objective is to win. That's all that matters. I don't care who makes it. So let me tell you a story. So my first year in Phoenix,

we only wanted to win the championship. wanted to win the championship. I did. I said, guys, we're gonna go to the championship and we're gonna play the bulls. And they're like, how do you know that? I said, because I'm the best fucking player in the world. Michael Jones great. But I just needed some help. I said, I think I'm better than Michael Jordan, which every great players to think he's just as good as everybody in the world. I says, I think I'm the best fucking player in the world. And I just needed some

help. I got out of a shithole in Philly. I just needed some help. I says, we're gonna play the Bulls for the championship. I and I said, I said, I'm the best player in the world and I said we're going to the finals and Obviously we got there in the Bulls beat us and it was actually interesting because I Remember going home and talking to my daughter After game two because I let us down in game one because his mama was too big for my team in game one and they cracked on

the pressure and I didn't lead. But okay, so that's on me. I take responsibility, but in game two, I was like nah y'all better jump on my damn back. We're gonna win game two. So I had like 42 nah, y'all better jump on my damn back. We're gonna win game two. So I had like 42, something like that. Then Micah had like 52. And I was like, I remember going home

and my daughter was crying. She said, dad, you told me y'all were gonna win. And I remember telling her, I says, I gotta be honest with you, that guy's better at basketball than me. I says, I'm not giving up. But I said, I've never said somebody was better than basketball than me, because obviously it's a team game.

But I said, he is actually, I played as well as I could in game two and he played better. And I was like, my daughter's name is Christiana. I said, Christiana, I've never told you this before. I said, Larry Bird's great, Magic Johnson's great, Carmelo's great, Patrick Ewing's great. But I said, me and Patrick didn't have any help. But Bird had McHale and Parris and Dennis Johnson. And I said, Magic had Kareem,

James Worthy, Byron Scott, all those guys. I said that's the difference. But when I got a chance to play against Michael mano a mano, I said I played as well as I could. I had like 40, 18, but he had like 50 something. And said, damn. I was trying to console my daughter. I said, damn, there's somebody better at basketball than me. Because I had willed our team. Because even game seven against Seattle, I had 45-25. Like, I'm like, no, we're not going to lose tonight. I never had 45 and 25 in a game before,

but I says if I got one game to win, I'm gonna will us. So in game seven against Seattle, you get to the finals. I had 45 25 something like that. But when I played against Michael in game two, I was like, we're not going to lose tonight. We can't lose the first two games at home. But so, man, you at some point, you got to find a way. You got to just find a way. Like, if I'm going to leave tonight, I'm coming out. I'm punching somebody in the face. I am Verhage, Kachuk, Barkov.

I'm going to do something uncharacteristic to mess this thing up. Because what we're doing is not working. What we're doing is not working. If I'm a leader, Tavares got to do something like, you know what, I got to set the tone. Like, okay, again example, like in the Ford Nations thing when they just dropped the gloves in the first couple minutes, you got to do something. You got to do something because your other tactics are not working. I'm telling you man, I cannot wait to watch the game tonight. Like I said, I can't wait to watch. I gotta go to a sports bar because I wanna

watch the hockey and I wanna watch the basketball because there's gonna be so much pressure on the Knicks tonight because if the Knicks do not win tonight, they're not gonna win damn game seven and I feel the same way. I'll be honest with you. I feel the same way I'll be honest with you I feel the same way about the Panthers they got a win that series tonight because they're not going to win game seven in Toronto that's what I'm saying yeah what a thought of beating Toronto in game seven that's a no no I'm pleased if they don't I think I said the same thing

until if the Knicks do not win tonight, they're not going to win game seven in Boston. And I feel it is a hundred percent the same way. If the Leafs do not win tonight, excuse me, if the Panthers don't win tonight, they're not going, like there will be so much momentum and pressure on them going back to Toronto. So that's- Great, Chuck. I agree with you. I'm telling you to Toronto. So that's great. Chuck. I

agree with you, man. Don't listen to these ideas. They could be win tonight, the Leafs and be up five, nothing in the third period of game seven and they're losing. First of all, you understand that you understand that she's got an all his hat on. Relax, brother. Relax. OK? Relax. I'm waiting to talk about my team. Relax. You guys, first of all, that was so exciting the other night. That was so exciting. I saw you celebrate.

I saw you celebrate when Kaepernick put that one in to end the series. So I always have hockey. And like I say, the reason I admire hockey. Which was your original question man. They don't have the bullshit that goes on in NBA. They don't have super teams. They don't have guys.

Man with load managing. They just want to win the Stanley Cup. That's the way unless every time I say this shit, all these assholes on TV get mad because they think you're the old get off my long guy. The only thing should matter is trying to win in my day. We didn't worry about who was making the most money. We didn't worry about who was making the most money. We didn't worry about who was playing. I think my original point I want to make,

so my first year in Phoenix, we like, I get the guys together. I said, guys, we're going to the finals. We're going to play the Bulls. They're like, how you know that? I said, because I'm the best fucking player in the world. Michael Jordan's great. I'm going to give him his flogs,

but I think I'm just as good. Now I got you guys, we're going to play the Bulls for the championship. And my first year in Phoenix, everything goes great. Like all we care about is winning. It was pretty cool and amazing. And I remember the next year, we lost to the Bulls obviously.

The next year, I remember I'm sitting down with the owner and I says, I'm not sure we're gonna make it to the finals again. He's like, why do you say that? We got one of the best teams in the NBA. I said, yeah, but these guys now they're different. Cause I'm in a locker room. I says, well, one guy is complaining like,

well, what's the name makes more money than me. One guy's complaining like, I should be starting. I should be playing more. If you're gonna win, you can't worry about how much money other guys are making. You can't worry about playing time. You can't worry about who's starting. And I remember telling the owner that,

I says, the team is different. Because with success, everything changes. It's like, you you know I should be starting well dude you came off the bench you're playing great shut the fuck up then you got like you know I should be making more money than this guy I said well first of all let's get one thing fucking straight Kevin Johnson and Dan Marley will make it more money than me I don't complain I just want to win the championship that's all I care about. But when guys started complaining about who's making more money, who's not playing,

you're never gonna win. Because if you're gonna win, you have to be all in. And that's the thing I admire and respect about hockey players. You never hear them complain about load management. You never hear them complain about playing time. So that's why I love hockey to be honest with you guys. I love that.

Quick side note, I was gonna ask you, you mentioned MJ a couple times in his killer mentality. He's gonna be joining NBC, I believe I read. He's gonna be doing some television. Were you surprised to hear that? How much do you think he's actually gonna be doing the TV thing? I'm more surprised that you said you read. Yeah. Chuck, don't fucking laugh at this guy. Don't don't don't do me dirty like that. Hey, I'm

with you, brother. I'm with you. Ain't nobody can come between us. Let's get that out the way. Let's get that out the way. So I think I have no idea what Michael's going to do. I don't think he's going to do a lot. Well, first of all, I know he's not. I know he's not going to do a lot. I was 100% shocked, but I don't think he's going to do a lot, period. I really don't. Yeah. It's because the Grove shut down for eight months. He's got nothing to do Well, he's probably trying to fix the Grove because you know, he probably he made the Grove where you had to be able to hit The ball left the right. He's trying to front trying to fix the fairways So people who play a hook and can play there, you know, you know Remember like I got a lot of golf friends obviously,

and they're like every Jack Nicholas golf course is he makes it where you can hit the ball left or right. And if you're a hooker, he puts the trees so far over, you can't play your hook. Uh, so Michael's probably at the Grove. If his clothes

down, he's probably trying to make it even more left or right golf course. Love it. Chuck, thank you so much. I don't know, do you have anything else for this legend? I mean, not really. I was just kind of wondering anything else hockey wise you've noticed. I mean, Carolina, Carolina hurricanes shutting teams down defensively. You got oilers who the I picked the Orlers to win the Stanley Cup. You know, we did a really nice thing with Liam. I actually had Toronto winning this series, to be honest with you, my boy.

You still do somehow. No, but I still got the Orlers winning the Stanley Cup. But I will tell you this. If you go back and look at this Toronto-Florida series, and Beers was in the other night, I says, man, if the Panthers win this series, it's all about Bob. Because if you go back and look, there was probably five to seven chances that Toronto in games three and four, in games three and four, when Nylander got a breakaway that could

have changed the series, it 3-1 and he's a game three or four but Bob was so freaking amazing and the opposite he's been amazing again he's been amazing again but I thought to he's the reason Toronto is down in this series but I still feel good about my pick because you know these idiots over here in the United States trying to impose terrorists terrorists on Canada that's why the cup is going back the cup is going back that's what I'm saying because that's what I'm saying because of all the tariffs. Hey, the tariff bullshit is BS. You're not going to be the 51st state.

You're not going to be the 51st state. Well, let me tell you something. The cup is going back to Canada plain and simple. Go allers. Hey, what the fuck? Thank you, Chuck. Thank you for coming on the show. Chuck, are you still drunk on the oilers? Hey, we love you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank got a hangover. If you go at your first question is, am I drunk? If I got a hangover, that mean I was drunk yesterday. Not today. And you're getting drunk today too. I got a hangover. I got a hangover. Yeah. Yeah. Because I had an off night and I went out and got drunk all night. And this is the only thing I got I played golf I did I so I was on the golf course yesterday it was a perfect day I played golf I smoked cigars and I got drunk then I got drunk last night watching basketball and hockey and you know what I'm gonna do today I'm doing the spin chicklets which y'all guys got an amazing podcast so then I'm gonna go back to bed.

I'm going right back to bed. Then I'm gonna get up and I'm gonna get drunk and watch hockey and basketball again. It's the perfect day. I'm gonna watch- You got any draws on right now, Chuck? No, I burned all my draws like 30 years ago. I never wear underwear.

You don't wear underwear, Chuck? No, you don't. I never wear, well, first of all, I'm black. We call them draws. Okay, we don't call them underwear. We call them draws. So I burned about probably 35 years ago. I had a bonfire in the backyard and I burned all my draws.

So I never wear underwear. So I'm gonna go back to bed for probably an hour or two. Then I'm gonna get up. I think I might go get a massage. I might go get a massage. Okay. And then and after that, I'm just gonna I might go hit some golf balls. It's a long day. But then I'm just gonna watch game six and game six. That's all I'm gonna do today. Absolutely not. What's the drink? Is it tequila on the rocks? Yeah, what do you drink?

What do you suck back? Oh, baby. Oh, he's got his own vodka. That's right, Dave. So I got my own vodka. So does Witt. Yeah, oh yeah. I keep them here when I do podcasts.

That's Witt. I've seen this drunk on a pod, too. Yeah, so I'm gonna do a lot of Redmond vodka. I got a gin, too. I got a gin. What are you Ryan Reynolds? Yeah I'm trying to be well he's so he's so here's like 600 million dollars I would like to do that just for the record. So I'm gonna drink a lot of vodka at some point I'm gonna go to tequila because I love great tequila. So I'm gonna start out after I think I say I'm gonna get a massage and I probably hit some golf balls. But my whole day is going to revolve around Celtics, Knicks, Leafs, Panthers.

And Chuck last question, who did you play against in the finals your first year in Arizona? Bulls, Michael Jordan overrated, flash in the pan. I never thought Michael was going to make it. He was a flash in the pan. Yeah. So we thought, yeah, we lost to the bull. We lost to the bull. We lost to the bulls in six. How many points you have at game seven against Seattle? 45. 45 and 25. I think. That's unbelievable. You know, you know, you know what's crazy about that.

So you talk about being the leader of a team. So one of my good friends has got a Frank Johnson. So I pulled him aside. We're flying back to Phoenix for game seven. And I said, hey, what do I need to say to this team to get us ready for game seven. And I said, Hey, what do I need to say to this team to get us ready for game seven? He says, you don't have to say shit. This is true story. He says, you you fucking been telling us all year, you're the best player in the world. I need you. He says, all you got to do that. We're going to follow you. That goes back. Somebody in that locker room got to say, hey boys, let's go out here tonight and let's get it done. And that's really important. Well, there's Nylander, Matthews, Marner, Tavares. One of

those guys got to say, hey guys, all that shit he got on the board, it don't fucking matter. It don't matter. Because you played 100 games, basically. Now, we played this team five times. Ain't no nothing he can write on the board. So Frank, we're flying back. I said, Frank, I got to, because everybody's kind of on edge, game seven.

And Frank says to me, I said, Frank, I need to get these guys up because everybody's got a lot going on. He says, dude, you're the leader of the team. I need you to go back there and say, guys, we got this. Jump on my back. Jump on my fucking back. And he said that to me.

It was really cool. And I remember telling the guys I said hey guys I walk I walk back to the back of the plane that's guys we're good get on my fucking back we're going to the finals and so somebody on the leaf got to say that so I told these guys those, let's guys relax. Let's have fun. It's a game seven. Oh, I said, I'm bringing my a game. Y'all get on my fucking back and we're going to the finals. And I had, cause Frank, what he said was he says, I need you to play the best fucking game of your life. And we're going to the finals. And I said, what? He says, you ain't got to worry about those guys back there. They're gonna follow

what you do. He says, they're gonna follow what you do. He says, I need you to play the best game of your life. And the rest of these guys gonna follow. And somebody on the Maple Leafs got to say, like I say, it can be Nylander. It could be Austin. It could be Tavares. Oldie. Yes. Gilmore.

One of those guys got to say, hey guys, we get paid to play hockey. We got the best job in the world. Y'all get on. And like I say, you can actually lose the game. I mean, I want to make that clear. You can actually lose the game, but it they need the Panthers to know That these motherfuckers been in a fight Hey, they need to know like hey, you know what y'all beat us in six games

But it was a damn war and somebody on I don't know who has the personality to do that But somebody on Toronto has got to say, guys, let's let these dudes know, because everybody think it's gonna be, this is the end of the season tonight, but let me tell you something, it's not. It's not the end of the season. This is another opportunity to do something special.

Remember when Messier, when Messier did that thing? No. Like they need somebody to step out there like that. Like Mark Messier, like I say, he's amazing. But when he was playing for the Rangers, he went out there and said, guys, we're good. I'm guaranteeing this gonna happen. And like I say, I don't know if anybody on Toronto

has that ability, but somebody needs to do it. Chuck, I'm literally tweeting it right now. Yeah, somebody gotta do it, man. Biz is doing it. Yeah. Biz, you never. Hey, Biz. Charles, thank you so much for playing.

Hey, Biz, Biz, Biz, you got the game tonight? We're doing it, Chuck. I'm gonna be in studio. You should come by if you're not getting walked on by a masseuse or working on your liver. Biz, I need to watch. He's going to the bar. Biz, I'm going to be getting drunk watching both games.

Because let me tell you something. That Celtics-Nicks game tonight, you know the Garden's going to be going crazy? I cannot. If you like sports, this is a good night. This is a good night. That's exactly what we needed, Chuck. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I

can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. That was incredible. Charles is in one.

Charles is having a time. He's drinking. He's smoking. He's golfing. He's drinking again. And he thinks he's to get it. He played the bulls in the finals 45 25 against Seattle game 7 unreal and he brought the thunder.

He's going back to bed. He's going back to bed. I think he's going back to bed. Fucking be in that Leafs locker room giving them that pep talk and then fucking martyr. All right, before we go any further, I got to give a huge shout out to our sponsor, Roweback. As you know, if you've listened all season, they came on as the Roeback last question. And with Biz and Whit and Yans, you know these guys already went through their whole list of questions. So it just brought up ridiculous stuff. And I can't thank Roeback enough for bringing that to the spit and chicklets world.

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and more with code CHICLETS. Use code CHICLETS on ROBECH.com for generous 20% off your first purchase through the end of the week. Oh man, there it is. Sir Charles had the beer goggles on that, that interview, a few extra pink Whitney's I think before he came out, I don't know what was going on, but that was all time. I mean, when he lists his day, I got, I went out, I got drunk.

I'm going to get up. I'm going to get, have a nap and then I'm going to get drunk again and watch hockey and basketball. I mean, does his life get any better than that? His glasses though, he had like, one of those Sally, Jesse, Raphael glasses on just right up close. Ultimate beauty, amazing guy, amazing character. Uh, and that's why everyone loves being around the guy.

Like he's just unbelievable that like he told the same story like 15 times, which made it even better because no one tells a story like Chuck. So epic. What we got next, Murr? Yeah. I mean, if you look at the 24, 25 season and you had to pick one name to just, um, exemplify the season, it's the Kachuk. Kachuk family name.

If it was Brady, if it was Matthew, if it was Keith, if it was Big Walt, just last night at the, or on the weekend, getting thrown up at Matthew's wedding. It was the Kachuk family. They took over the season and it all started at the Four Nations. So when they had Brady Kachuk on talking about the group chat before the Four Nations against Canada, that was an all time interview as well. All time moment of the season also, which led to this all-time interview that's right Murls Brady Kachuk breaking down the the group chat but for three fights in nine seconds Canada

versus US. Brady we got to talk about text gate okay so a lot of people when all that went down probably assumed it was because of the booze to the anthem you guys are so riled up well after the game we find out that you guys had been texting back and forth now was this the full team group chat or was this just you Matthew and JT basically like we're going to flip the bell center upside down because word had gotten out that that was going to happen so on the streets we were kind of aware something crazy was going to happen. So on the streets, we were kind of aware of something crazy was going to go down, not exactly what ended up taking place. So walk us through the texts, how it all went down in your eyes and, and the rest.

Well, Matthew and I were talking like, if we have this opportunity that make, how sick would it be to like do something like this was months ago, like if we're both on the same team, like in Montreal, like how sick would that be? So that kind of just like, we're joking around about it. And then the start of the tournament, obviously we got to know Millsy and he was a no awesome guy. And we just kind of joke around and like, oh, we got to do something nuts. And just, we had like the Montreal in Montreal or were the villains.

And, and then we go down for a nap. And I just remember I was about to fall asleep. Matthew was about to fall asleep. And all of a sudden our phones pop up and, uh, milsy texts, like, is just like, are we serious about starting tonight? Cause that's what we're joking about. Like all three of us starting, we're going right away. And he's like, are we serious?

And then I kind of, I think that's when FaceTime like, all right, we got it. We got to keep this going and yeah, we're just talking about it. And then get to the game. I still think like, all right, maybe it's not going to happen where we've been joking around about it and then find out legit four minute Mark going onto the ice for like the, the on that who they're starting. And then Matthew is like, all right, I got my guy. And then he told, pulled me aside.

Like after you're on the bench, grab Benny and then Mills, he's got preco cause I guess he asked him and warm up. So, um, I'm not gonna lie to you. I was so nervous because I was nervous for Matthew's flight. Cause I'm like, okay, center ice. I was so nervous because I wasn't nervous for Matthew's flight. Cause I'm like, okay, center ice. I can't have you getting your ass kicked. Like that's going to get in. It was, I'm going nuts.

I know I was, I don't, I was trying to like give them like advice, like, okay, go over, go under, but all I could say is like, yeah, like I was so nervous before then like that happened. I was like, I might, I might not be able to wait to the whistle. Like I just have to like go right now. I'm so fired up. And, um, and then went to the bench, asked Benny and it was pretty funny. Benny is like, yeah, like let's back at coop is like, I'm going and coop's like, just nodded his head.

I'm like, here we go. And you and, you and Benny, like, I remember you being down here during the playoff run last year. Like, I'm sure you guys are buddies. And like, it's like to go out and do that is it's amazing what you guys did. Yeah. It's all business. It's fucking rights.

But yeah, I met him in Calgary in Florida And it's pretty funny that Matthew just now back with him in Florida So I was like, hey, has he said anything about it later? We just been just been showing him But I am sweet. So you skated over to Canada's bench and you were like, hey Benny, let's go and he down Yeah, I was like Benny like let's go. we're up next. We're up next in the cards. That's unreal. JT was so fired up, he gave himself an uppercut. Oh, if you saw that video, he punched himself in the head.

That clip was shown, a nice little bucket popper. And then did you the coolest part is one sec, the the coolest thing was getting the mic'd up moment from the penalty box. I'm guessing when you saw it, you probably don't even remember it, right? With the adrenaline and the high fives, Matthew's banging the glass. But it was so classic. Like Matthew's like, how was mine? How was mine?

Like looking back, he just wanted his brother's approval about his tilt, huh? It's like we were little kids. It's just like, oh, how was that? That was so cool. Like, and it was just what I thought was crazy. Like that might dub, like not a word was set. Like I didn't say a word. I'm like, did I turn mute for like a hot sec?

Like, or like, I just couldn't believe it. And then we get in the box. Well, I think a highlight was the dab up. I, I, I'm going to send that every couple of days to Matthew. We've been sending it back and forth. Like, this is the highlight of the term. It was the dab up. Oh, that's it back and forth. Like this is the highlight of the tournament was the dab up Was like, yeah

It was so sweet. Yeah an iconic moment in American hockey history And that's it. And that's why spitting chiclets is spitting chiclets biz with yans They got that player inside info out of Brady I can't believe he talked about the group chat cause it went crazy after that. It did. It did go crazy. And it's I think because of the Kachucks to your point in the year that they had and like them being so open like that.

Um, it's, it's now even more so, I think exploded that Canada, us rivalry, which Olympics coming up, Merle's Olympics, but the four nations was incredible. Matthew against Hagel, then Brady versus Bennett, right off puck drop. And then the next play, it was Miller against Pareko. That was a great nine seconds to open up that game. And now we know how it's set up. That clip went super viral. I think Hagel had something to say, like we're not on group chats, like, you know, getting it going. So just leads to great storylines and everything coming up right now, uh, with the Olympics ahead of us and those two countries going toe to toe. The Kachucks are still on the board, Murls.

Yep. What do we got? Number five, Matthew became a regular on spitting checklists through the playoff run, but the best one was surprising Biz. Biz ends up smacking himself with his belt. It just got out of control. And like I said, the Kachuk name was stamped all over this 24, 25 season. Keith, apparently I'm being told you have a special guest. Yeah, so I reached out to my agents who represent a bunch of you know singers and stuff like that.

So we got Justin Bieber coming on here to have a couple words with busy boy. Oh no wait it's Matthew. It's Matthew. Boys what up. What he's in the room is. Thank you. the I think I think that's I think that's what hurt them a little bit I don't I don't know what hurt them more before that him asking the question. Oh man Yeah, I don't know what the I don't know what the turning point was those questions before the series or yans on the drum

Yans was was pretty dynamite there. I think that's what would change it around for us Hitting the biz idiot t-shirt. it was classic, but bunch of questions for I know you don't have a ton of time, but let's go through what was said after game two or prior to game three, like you go into Toronto, doesn't go your way. Didn't look like the Florida team everyone's seen for three years. What was said within the room and from coach Maurice? Yeah, I don't really know what happened in the first. I think it was just like the start of game one.

We struggled. We came out and we played a really good Tampa team. And I don't know if we came out and thought it was gonna be like easier. I don't know what it was. We just didn't play well in the first period there of game one. But then we got to our game and I felt like that

they couldn't really play with us once we got like all four lines and all 60 going like we're We played really well like in waves throughout the rest of the series, so We kind of got to that in game two still lost But like you're gonna lose in playoffs even when you play well like it's you're not gonna There's no team that's gonna be able to just stomp through everybody. So I thought those two games at home, obviously, Yan's leading the charge. And I don't even remember what game that was. But no, going back home, we knew that the series was still on even though we were down 2-0.

I thought that we took care of home wights just like they did. And when you make it 2-2 and you're coming back for game five, like we know that the pressure, we kind of use that the pressure like that they're feeling up here in Toronto almost against them in a way, like you know that they could not afford to lose that game and they could not afford to lose that series after being up 2-0. So we kind of like use that and kind of use that as like a rallying point against them. And I thought our two best games were game five and seven, obviously.

So it just speaks to, you know, the way we were able to come from, from being down and out into making it a series and then ultimately taking over. Sometimes it takes to game seven, but that's why it's first to four and not first to two, not first to three. So that's what makes playoff so great. Do you want me to go with, Oh, I'd love to hear what you have to say. Before you start apologize, apologize to the man. I'm sorry, Matthew. Hey, I get it. It's plastic. I know I said it before,

but I was trying to get in your head. I think I got my own in the meantime. Um, I wanted to ask you, were you guys, well, I kind of, did you guys, did you guys know oldie or see oldie in game six? Like you gotta tell me that was kind of funny. I did not know. Um, but I did, uh, I did see on, on like Twitter and Instagram last night after the game, wearing some, some brutal shirt. That's my lucky shirt. I got a BJ at a bachelor party in that shirt. Were you surprised like how they played in game five and seven? Like were you like surprised they laid that big of an egg? No, I mean, I think that we played well. Like it's not all, you know, I, sometimes you feel bad for, for them because like they have some unbelievable players and a great team. And I was actually saying this last night to, uh, to some of the guys, like

if their team was not in like Toronto dealing with all like the the crazy circus stuff outside of it like they'd be like an Unbelievable team and like such a hard team to play like they just have so much to deal with and I feel bad I mean we don't have to deal with that in Florida I feel like that's what makes me and my team so lucky But like you almost use that against them, you know like the pressure that these guys have to deal with day in and day out and Like I wasn't surprised with how they played, like they had stretches in

those games where they played really well. I mean, look at last night, like they were that second half of the first period, like they were unreal and Bob had to come up huge for us. So I, they definitely didn't lay an egg at all. Like they, they played us well. They took us to game seven and you know, I think that I mean that's very Know that's what I'm saying. He like brings you out to dinner. He's got flowers. He's opening your door He brings you home by 10 o'clock like Jesus Christ the hell's no like like they they they play well So did we like we you know, we got we give them a lot of credit They made it a hard series for us. And ultimately I think coming down to game seven,

there's a lot of pressure being the home team, especially in Toronto. And we came out with a great start and kind of took the crowd out of it early. I just wanted to say by asking you that I was not trying to discredit you guys at all. I just felt like, you know, yeah, they showed up in the second half of that first period.

I just thought from a full 60 minute perspective, I would have expected a little bit more after the fact that they got they got Irish traveller in game five and I wasn't expecting it in game. So like, no, I mean, I guess. Yeah, I guess. I don't know, like they it's crazy too, because they play us so hard in game six you know and like they didn't give us much like there was nothing in that game six like both ways and and you know i think going into game seven we felt as a team like playing the playing on the road like let's do to

them what they just did to us like that was such like a a suffocating type of game. Like there was nothing out there both ways. So no good series and it's nice to beat them. Obviously it's nice to keep going. Yeah. Just about to hop on a bus to the plane to go to Raleigh right now. It's crazy. We're playing again tomorrow, but I guess that's what happens when you go. So the fact that you came on pre-series and then to button everything up afterward like this

is just a pure master class of stuff for me in a fucking locker. So congrats to you and the boys and I appreciate you playing along with all the clownery before the series and really during. Wynn I'll throw it over to you. I know you wanted to ask one. No no I know this guy. I know this guy has to go so um I congratulations incredible incredible series I was gonna ask like does that game last night because you're saying yeah you guys played great no doubt so maybe it's not fair to just dog the Leafs is that is that like one is that could with game seven last year against the Oilers the most well-rounded game you can remember playing

on the Panthers as a team? Because there was just nothing for the Leafs, similar to almost nothing for the Oilers in game seven last year. Yeah, I think last night was probably the best one. We played really good from the start. Every line's first shift, the first four, the first rotation, it was it was

pretty much domination those first few shifts and like just like getting the confidence level that we can do that in that type of a game like on the road like just settles everything down and and uh and kind of set up i know they had a really good push in the second half of that first room but it just sets up our game and knows that we can, we can roll them over. It takes one thing I love about our team. We've talked about is like, it takes everybody. Like it could be anybody on each night and it could be somebody different on different nights. And I just think we're super lucky to have the depth that we have. I just want to ask one quick last one. Uh, the two guys who probably made the biggest

impact last night, Seth Jones, Brad Marshawn, in order to repeat, you have to bring in new blood that's going to rejuvenate a lineup. Like how much do those two pieces mean to that team and specifically Brad Marshawn with the game seven numbers and, and being the leaf killer that he is, like what, what has it been like getting to know these guys and be teammates with these guys? Yeah, they've been unreal. I mean, Marci first, like, you know, coming in, we've had some crazy series with them in the past and the rivalry and, you know, he just fit in so perfectly when he came. It's like we've had. It just adds right to it.

He's like a perfect, this team's perfect for him. It's like a perfect match. So we're so excited to have him. He's been unreal. He's so strong on the puck. Their line's been just incredible. And Jones, was he not the best defenseman in the world last night? He was just a man out there just like fooling around almost like he was incredible.

Chicago fans thought they fleeced you guys. Yeah, I don't know about that. But he was pretty good. Yeah, I'm still waiting for my dinner. I mean, I had to get hurt so we could get him. That's crazy. So I say that he owes you a fucking Rolex for getting them on that situation. I had to grind for months. And so yeah, he owes me something, but no, he's been absolutely unreal and like amazing guy. I've known him like a little bit before. Um, and another guy that just fits right in to what we have down here. I'm so happy that you know We have him for five. He's got the same like years left on this contract as I do and it just can't wait to continue

to grow with him But I don't know like he was he might have been the best player in the world last night like he was incredible Last quick question. How come how come you guys didn't pack to go right to Carolina? Because you came, are you in Florida you said? No, we're in, we're still in Toronto now. Okay, all right. We packed for three games. You knew.

You knew. I wouldn't say we knew, but we were planning on it. All right. I was just going to say, buddy, not only thanks for coming on and having fun with the pod before the round started, after the round of stuffed me in a locker, but like everything you do for the game, buddy, like the, like the four nation stuff, like it's, it's hard enough like doing what you do on the ice, but doing it off the ice in order to promote the game. Like you make it easy for us, buddy. And, uh, I'll, I'll never, Hey, I'll make

you this promise. Even if you play the Leafs in the future. I'll fucking I will praise you guys I won't act the way I did this round Write this down. Yeah, well, let's write this down boys. No, but I appreciate it's nice to nice to see the old it makes makes it fun, you know the games when there's a people that are pretty intense into it, but Yeah, no, it's looking forward to get maybe a little bit more your support this this round then you'll have that awesome black appreciate tomorrow night buddy see you later hey everybody in chat, including round of applause for Matthew Kachuk for Christ's sake, man.

I'll tell you one thing for free. If I was him, I wouldn't have came back on if you know what this is. Although to crush his soul and belt to ass him, I think it's actually like I gotta come, yeah, belt to ass, but it's belt to ass. Ow! Standard, standard. I think it's actually like I got a belt to ask this belt to ask. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Like as much as we rip on biz for the Leafs, as much as fans and Chicklets nation, he can't help but bring up the Leafs. Just ultimate fan boy is biz. When another player beats your team and then in his packing up in his hotel room to go

catch his flight home after he beats them out in the playoffs. I mean, that is so much different on another level. And there's another Kachuk murls just coming out, packing up his hotel room, has time to jump on with the boys and make it just an epic moment of biz just whipping himself with the belt, whipping himself with that belt. You got to be kidding me. Yeah, that that was awesome. And Matthew, he wasn't done. He's, he's on the board here again, number six. He does the ultimate, ultimate move, calling in from the pool on the spittin' chicklets.

They're down in the Bahamas. This is after, I think, the parade. They're celebrating in there. It was him. It was, uh, who was he with? Reinhardt, Pasha's guy, and then all of a sudden. And then the Rat King, the Rat King came in. Brad Marshad, and he then all of a sudden. Then the Rat King, the Rat King came in. Brad Marshad and he just made it electric.

I don't know who was holding the phone for that clip. They must have got tired after a while. Nonetheless, the Panthers, the ultimate bad boys, they don't care. They drop in on this pod for one of a great moment this year, which lands at number six in the pool with umbrellas coming out of their drinks with the boys and Now as anyone can see watch on YouTube We're joined by Sam Reinhart Matthew Kachuk in the pool Daiqueries are mixed. They're flavored. Let me ask you guys just start up

How are you guys still going like what is the sleep since Tuesday night? Probably a couple hours. A couple late afternoon naps to go again, but it's been a heck of a ride. Rhino, your voice sounds a little better from when you were at Raising Cane's. That's good to hear. I know our team doc has been very busy helping the boys out, trying to get their voices back. I know our team doc has been very busy helping the boys out trying to get their voices back. So a lot of Z packs. No, it's been good. There's still a couple a couple lost voices on the trip. How many of the boys showed up and where are you guys at right now?

Oh, small pockets. Our future Toronto Maple Leaf right there. Brad Marsha. How you doing, buddy? The bus. What's up, brother? How you doing, buddy? That is what's up, brother. How you doing, man? Hey guys, how we doing?

Marshy, what were you going back into 11 to do when Barkey grabbed you by the shoulder and said, it's over Marshy. The night's done. I had to go back and fucking bring it boys. I know you guys have been there. You don't leave 11 before you get kicked out. He was going to pay and then realize that, oh, that's a 500 K comp. Oh, so they call that whole bill for you guys.

That's fucking unbelievable. Our treated pretty well there. Uh, they do a good job. They're classy. Who would you guys rank as the first star for the entire celebration so far? I know Lucy. No, we're going Really? Marshy's up there for sure the whole Marshawn family. Show show Forzey. Probably probably going the whole Marshawn family

Let's see if Forzey is doing pushups. He's doing pushups No, he's on that duty right here. We're down here. We're down here in Bahamas. He had to check a box. I think he took him to the water slides and now we're now we're about to suck him in here for some fun. Chuckie, any, any word back from Dua Lipa for Lundell? Saw that tweet. No, it's summer ray, isn't it? I think it was summer ray. Summer ray. unless he probably the Dua Lipa too. I don't know. Um, just a group DM. I don't think so. I don't think so yet, but, uh, maybe get her to bang the drum next year to start.

I don't know. I don't know what we're going to do, but, uh, I hope it works out from one Dingo stud man. Yeah. Yeah. A match made in heaven. Hey, so last year you guys had rain on the parade day. This year, no rain.

Looked amazing. Any, which one did you guys like better? I like the only parade that I was at better. I missed the parade last year, but I'll let you talk about it. But guys say it was better yesterday with the rain. Yesterday was way better. One of the highlights, your boy Diggs. Oh, oh, what a legend.

Yeah. We brought him out there. We had some fun. Um, the whole day was great though. Whole day was great. I was a little worried at one point at 11. I'm like, I don't know if Big C's is going to make it. Like he was getting waterboarded by champagne. He would have been so happy to die there with the boys. Yeah. That was that one. That was that was. That was a lot of fun. The chance for God.

I mean, I was just so in the moment and looking back on it. I probably should have not done it as bad to him, but I think he liked it. I think he liked it. It was he's for the boys. We actually because you guys have been so good to us. We have a surprise for you. We're actually flying big seas down to the Bahamas for you guys. Yeah, so he'll be there now. We're actually flying big seas down to the Bahamas for you guys. Yeah

He's a legend Matthew I saw you you you murdered the pink stuffed pony Have you guys inherited that song now? Do you guys kind of just claim it as your own? You know, I don't think you can party with help that song playing throughout today There it is. There it was. They were having some slushies there. You know, I like the frozen daiquiris. I was having them during the cup run there down on Fort Lauderdale strip.

And that leads, and actually it's unreal how this is all unfolding here. It's almost like we made this up. But the next story up number seven is the Biz ice cream sample story where he just, he went with wit and wit was just disgusted by the amount of samples. Biz took here it is right again. So down in Florida right now, we mentioned the sandbag that we did. Have you ever gotten ice cream with biz Keith? I definitely have, but I mean,

it's probably just like anytime he orders anything, it's chaos. It was one of the most chaotic. Was he try everything guy? I've brought, I've brought. Don't even say you've tried. I've brought five, six year old kids to get ice cream after a baseball game. That was like going to a spa and having a relaxation day

of meditation and massage compared to going and getting ice cream with this. We're sitting there, fish goes, easy order. G goes, no problem sir. Pasha goes, at this point he's had, I saw five, can I get a sample? He asked for five. And the girl's eyes started being like, all right,

I think this has to wrap up at some point. Pasha notices while I'm noticing, so then we kind of make eye contact, like dude, are you watching what's going on right now? I get out my phone, I start videoing it. He doesn't even see the phone, he's in his own world, he's like, oh, oh, that, oh, can I get a little sample of that one?

Nine little spoons in his hand, oh, she cut him off. No, she didn't. Yeah, she did. That's a fucking lie. Was he not cut off? That's all he was cut off. And then it was said, it was said that Pasha said, what is the most samples you've ever given? She's like four until this guy, this woman was, she was, her brain was, can the defense take the stand? Sure. Can the defense take, I think that if you're gonna get three scoops of ice cream, mind you, I only ended up getting two scoops of ice cream. I think you should be able to sample at least two kinds until you make a decision on one of the scoops.

I was going to- You want six, for three scoops, you want six samples? I just wanna try these, they have homemade flavors, like the, for instance, the pistachio. You go someplace. It tastes like every other pistachio. No, man. They had fresh pistachio. It was like homemade ice cream. So I tried it and to the point where the pistachios had a little bit of like, they were soft, so it was delicious. So that was going to be one of my flavors. So I ended up trying like the, not the birthday cake, the cotton candy.

Did it taste like cotton candy? That's I give my kids one try because every fucking ice cream it's vanilla cookies and cream you know every single one but then if they have a mystery one you can try they had a Snickers version all right who knows what a Snickers tastes like yeah I know but they're hungry their version of it might not be appealing so I tried it I wasn't that crazy about it. I moved on to a different one, which was the vanilla with chocolate chunk, which I did like.

So I decided on. So I don't think it's that ridiculous. So you people listening, if you think that you're able to get two samples for every scoop that you end up deciding on. Six samples for three scoops. Thank you. Have my back.

And I don't know why the fuck Posh is laughing, but Posh, if you get two samples, he likes the devil. He likes vanilla. By the time he was done getting samples, they were putting in the waffle cones for tomorrow's ice cream. It was nuts.

The guy's like, ah, it was like time to make the donuts. And I'm like, biz, you got to make it. Better than taking a shit with the invisible glass. Listen to this. So this Sloan's ice cream in Delray. This one right here. From Atlanta Cab. Awesome, awesome. That's the place we to this. So this Sloan's ice cream in Del Rey. There's one right here. From Atlantic Abbey. Awesome.

That's the place we went. And I will say about the ice cream, all of them being very similar in the same, I'm a chocolate chip guy. There's either the big chocolate chips or the little ones. I don't like the big ones. Neither do I. I love the big ones. Neither do I.

So, but Biz, when Biz is like, what's cotton candy taste? I'd say, dude, you've been to a carnival in your life? Yeah. It tastes like that. Sugar. That's what it tastes like that. Sugar, that's different colors. So in this place, there's a bathroom and you see into the bathroom until you lock the door. And then it, so there's like this long line

and right, like the kids were kind of like, oh my God, like you're gonna be able to see him go to the bathroom. Boom, it locks and the window blacks out. So I was like, all right, brief film. Wait, kind of a bizarre thing to have in a kid. It is like super creepy. This is the W's god thing.

And this story, I mean, there'll probably be people who'll hear this and be like, yeah, Wich should probably be on a list somewhere. So I- It's got a smile on your own camera side. It's like. It's just trying ice cream in the shitter. So I said, brief, brief, film this.

Cause like the kids were kind of so amazed by it. And I just walked in like goofy and didn't lock the door and just quickly got that, like it's, it's so awkward. I sat there, when you see, when you see on the toilet you can obviously tell I'm, no problems here. No problems legally. But I sat there, I sat there just pretending to smash and Ryder was in you.

You can see through Ryder's losing his mind like. And then I got out, my brother in law's dying laughing. And he's like, dude, are there any other kids in this line? And there was like some teenagers in the back. But the whole part of this point of the story is, so I'm telling these guys this last night. Which is not going to be on the podcast anymore. Yeah, sorry guys. All of a sudden Chris Hansen walks in. Why don't you take a seat? Why don't you take a seat? He's like, we have footage from Sloan's ice cream in 2018. So I, these

guys like didn't believe me or whatever. And I said, they send me that video. So I sent it to the chat this morning and Armie and Merle's aren't with us. And I said, here it is and Armie's so confused because it looks like, it legit looks like a kids candy store or kids like clothing store from what you can see on the video I sent. I'm like, yeah, I got arrested. Kind of a disaster, a little bit of a problem.

And then like guys are kind of laughing, responding. And then Armie texted me and said, I was like, bro, are you out? Like what, who arrested you? And I was like, bro, are you out? Like what, who arrested you? And I was like, dude, like that's coming tomorrow now, but it hasn't happened yet. So yeah, interesting night, get nice. And then another story comes out about Biz.

Wait, wait, wait, before we get there, before we get there, you do document a law on your phone and you showed us a video of when you were in Russia. Yeah, I talk about, have you ever seen these videos of these like? I've seen some crazy videos. What do you call those planes? I have no idea. I guess we could post them on the YouTube.

We talked about it in the very early days of Spit and Chip. Yeah, we have a whole new film. So do I just describe it or do we just drop the video? I want you to describe it. And we're gonna post it on the YouTube if you subscribe. Yeah, okay, that's fair enough. This isn't even planned. It sounds like we're just post it on the YouTube if you subscribe. Yeah, okay, that's fair enough. This isn't even planned. It sounds like we're just like forcing you

through tricks of our trade. No, I'm just kidding. You don't have to subscribe. Just go watch on the fucking YouTube. I was in Sochi and we lived in the Olympic Village and it was just like the team. There was probably enough rooms to have 1000 athletes. I don't know exactly, but there was a nice hotel

and then the team was in the Olympic Village. It's right on the Black Sea. So my place, there was a little bit of a, you know, an outside area to sit, a balcony, and it was beautiful view right over the Black Sea. It was beautiful. It was very nice weather there for Russia, warm quite often, didn't really snow.

And I would have the window open a lot, you know, it's like 55, 60 out, or the door open. And one of the days I heard like the window open a lot, you know, it's like 55 60 out or the door open And one of the days I heard like what sounded like a plane very close like an enormous plane The the noise of the engine and I went outside I'm like what the fuck and there is a monster plane Flying what you guys could correct me looks to be about 200 feet above the water. Oh my God. Looking like a, not a 747, but the next one that would go Atlanta to Boston, say, you know? And there's a boat coming and the boat is driving one way

and the plane is flying overhead the other and immediately drops what looks like 40,000 gallons of some sort of liquid on these people driving the boat. And I'm like, and then next thing you know, and you'll hear in the video, woo woo, it's like boat police flying upon the boat that just got sky dumped upon by the Russian airliner. And I was like, what the fuck?

And then the next day, I hear the same thing. I'm like, no, and I go out and this time, as opposed to, you'll see in the video, subscribe to the YouTube, the plane flying kind of along and in front of my place, well this time, this plane is flying directly at my building. Directly at my building.

And I'm like, what is going on here? And what looks further away than what I remember in person, the plane just boom and goes up over the building. It looked like a top gun plane moving. I'm like, how the remember in person the plane just goes Plane moving on my how the fuck did that big plane just pull up that quick and I never I Remember putting it on it's like I've always had a private Instagram And I remember putting on that people were like what the fuck and I'm like yeah, and I asked the Russian players We were showing Darcy Tucker this the other night and he had like, did you ever ask anyone about it?

I'm like, yeah, so I kind of showed the video to a couple Russian players and asked them about it. And like anything else, when you ask Russian players, they just say, it's Russia. So what were they doing? What were they dropping on? So we, I had no idea. Fish, during dinner, decided to maybe Google it.

I'm not even really gonna go into what he's saying it possibly could have been, in which it's like going to go into what he's saying it possibly could have been in which it's like trying to hose off things on Ukrainian boats that were delivering things like now we're getting into geopolitical warfare type conversation. But this was before I just think it's the B.O. they had probably that they're trying to rinse. It was Axe body spray. It was a army plane. No, it didn't. There was nothing on it. No, there's nothing on it. Just sheet metal that they welded together. And then just dropping out the like porta potty section of the plane under these poor boulders who probably just caught a three-eyed fish out of the Black Sea.

So incredible experience, but um the other story that came out about Biz and I don't know where this came from. This was when me and Pasha were going to get camera equipment downtown Vancouver for Biz Does BC. So early days, like we know each other, but not nearly as much as now. And I bump into, I think it's this guy that I kind of already knew. And you know when you're kind of jammed up and your wheels are spinning and you're thinking

about a million other things and you're trying to be polite and he was with his girlfriend and right away I was like, hey, what's up man, hey, is this your mom? And it was just. Dude, who was it? That is the, and then he's like, and then he's like, what do you do? It was his girlfriend that was probably 25 years old

and she obviously just, you know, maybe looked a little bit older. So it was just one of those like, hey, when you do, and they're not pregnant kind of not pregnant Probably not as bad as that But the conversation the end of the conversation was pretty awkward to say the least and when we walked away Posh's like bro, like what the fuck was that? Why this is the business? Oh, yeah. Sorry CTEs concussion Well, you can walk you can talk about anything five s five one

Five s one so that was another L in my life I'd knock myself out of anything with that. L5S5. One. L5S1. L5S1. So that was another L in my life. Me and Pasha had been together for some very, very weird experiences. Most of the time it's when we sit down for dinner, where I mean you probably don't shock her to you and me ordering. Why do you have an issue with my orders?

It was crazy. You used to just, we're gonna have this. Share, share. Gotta share. Yeah, then you went through that phase where everyone shared everything. But sharing with him is him eating everything and leaving one slice of sushi, the jalapeno.

No, fish was sitting beside me yesterday, and they did it, and we ordered two of each pasta, so everybody got a half order of each posses two steaks Everybody got a half a steak and then same with the app is guys if you're listening and you like having a little like tour Of Italy so to speak where you get to taste every little thing on the menu as opposed to being pot Committed to one thing and you might not like it I think you get together with a group of guys at the group of guys at the table whoever wants to be involved and Do that sort of thing.

But these two guys, every time I offer it up, they're like, they put their hand up. We know you eat all of it, and we get a little half a slice of the keemee. Hey, it's like playing with a guy, and you know you're never getting the puck from him. You see me open, you see me open, you just never get it. With you ordering, we're never getting any of the food.

You're not distributing. So we've seen enough where last night where he's like he had he had Darcy Tucker Steve Thomas and fish to his right he's like all right boys and he kind of bullies you into it not yes yes I had and he's so much like your job and Thomas Stumpy's like hey wait you want to get Wallace and right away I was like no no he doesn't do this shit, man. He needs his own meal. I'm like, oh, like every person that goes out to dinner for the most part, unless you're at Maciano's.

Hey, I want fish to talk about this. What was your experience like? Dude, he has corduroy shorts on. You think he cares? Yeah, no, I got bullied into it for sure. I had my meal picked out and I knew right away as soon as you looked at me and you're like, it's a foursome It's a foursome. I'm like, all right Lost the seat lottery on that ice cream with fish. He's like we're gonna try everything

Birthday last year in San Jose and we were getting ice cream. It's the same deal. I got my ice cream first I sit down by the time I finish my ice cream. He's like still sampling ice cream. He's in not all how, how was the proportion at dinner of what you got to eat of each meal though? Well, I know because we've been doing this now for a while, so I know to eat fast. Like you got to get there quick. So yeah, it shouldn't be a ring. That's exactly it. You know, it shouldn't be like that done. Yeah, like we got appies and we got like,

uh, like a steak skewer. Like I didn't try the steak skewer. Cause well, I also, I got, I got the salmon not to go into my entire order. I got the Miso salmon black rice, incredible order of Avalon. You can see it on the YouTube Avalon on it. So I, we have, we have a picture of the plate. This is a Jada podcast. Just talking about food. Oh, fuck. That's the only reason the long OK, well, we're just talking about bacon pizzas

here the whole time. But what was I saying? Oh, and I got and I but I so but before I ordered a smash burger, because I was like, I'll just have like half of that. And I cut it in half my anyone half half burger and fishes like and business like all is like a I'll just have like half of that. And I cut it in half. I'm like, anyone want a half burger? And Fish is like, and Biz was like, oh, there's like a great white jumping over. Like, Push is fish.

Tuna fish to get this like minnow he wanted. So it's- I'm like, we're going four ways. He's like, no, I got my own meal. I'm like, you want your family alive tomorrow? You want to have a job to be a part of this podcast? Oh, fuck. Okay. So that's kind of Florida so far. You want to have a job to be a part of this podcast? Oh, okay. So that's kind of Florida so far.

But so in a little word of advice to you people, don't ever ask, is that your mother? Just let them do the talking. Okay. Yeah, no one ever would. You don't have to tell anyone that. No one is ever saying that in the history of mankind. Like, I don't even know if like a first grader would they be like,

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it comes to food, whether it's giant orders, order offs, murals, we've done it all with these guys. When we go in these groups and they were together with their chicklets crew out in Florida And everyone is just blown away Watching his antics when it comes down to it and it's simple thing of ordering ice cream murals turns into This only with biz and and let it be known that you know It does like to give biz a hard time

But everybody was there Yans was there Grinnell was Fish was there. The whole team was down there to witness this just unacceptable behavior. But I will say, Biz did look great in that Merle's T-shirt that he was wearing telling the story during the pod. And that ice cream shop was down in Florida Army. So we're gonna stay there with a Florida Panther legend. Even though the best story from Roberto Luongo interview did happen to him in Vancouver with the poop gate.

Just an incredible story. The whole interview was awesome. Yans down at Yans' house, his little man cave, he's got there. Well, I shouldn't say little thing was, thing was bigger than my real house, but amazing interview. Offer sheet at the Detroit as well,

which was nobody knew about. So a lot of insight again from the Chicklets guys. Yeah, and only Chicklets. Like if you're a diehard Chicklets Nation uh, nobody knew about. So a lot of insight again from the chicklets. Yeah. And only chicklets. Like if you're a diehard chicklets nation follower, um, what a year. And, and, you know, to have a story in a market like Vancouver of leaving the game and then just leaving a playoff game in the middle, like everyone's like, what's going on here? But to actually get it out of them, like only BizWit and Yans can. I mean, it's, it's, it's one of those things this year, which was just incredible. Where I think total insight from the player's mouth of what was going on

that offer sheet was something else too. Enjoy. Yeah. Were you pooping as much with the Islanders as you were with Vancouver? That's a stay. That never changed. Yeah. It said you shit like 35 times a day.

Oh, game day. I have a certain routine that I like to follow. So what like drinks laxative? You're asking me to do that. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,. It said you've shit like 35 times a day. Game day. I have a certain routine that I like to follow. So what? Like drink laxative? Your ass. No, it was like cleaning it all out. Rink till he got on the ice. He was on the cam. No, seriously. There was like, on average I'd go five to six times a day on game day. So was it a nervous thing that was pushing it out? I think so.

It had to be nerves. I was always nervous. You guys are laughing back there, but I shit more on game days. Yeah, I get nervous poops big time. Like before live shows, I think I've smashed three or four times in an hour. Like I'll have poops the size of my thumbnail, but I feel like it's going to be like the size of wit's head. Like it's just like,

that's the nerves taking over your stomach. Yeah, it's pretty much what it was. I mean, I always play nervous. I mean, that's just, even it was like pre-season games, I'd still be nervous, even like my last year of my career. Like it's just who I was, right? And then that led to some stomach issues once in the playoffs. Okay.

So when you go down the tunnel, that was because of that? I didn't know. Oh, did that ever end up coming out? I think it came out. Pretty much everybody knows. Okay. Because the Canucks fans are just panicking, what happened?

Oh yeah. I just had to poop. Well I didn't admit it at first because it was a little embarrassed. Yeah, that's awesome. You then go to Vancouver where, I guess going back to Canada's gotta be exciting, where Florida, it was a struggle for the team,

fan base isn't like what it is now. You're going to where hockey's everything. And you had an incredible first season. So like how excited were you going into that season in the summer? Yeah, I mean, that was, well, first of all, I wasn't really expected to be traded. I think it was a little bit of a contract issue at the time

and Mike Keenan was the GM at the time. So I was trying to like work out a deal and- You didn't want to go anywhere. I was, I didn't want to go anywhere, but I also wanted to win. And that was one of the discussions I was having with the, you know, the GM and the ownership in Florida and, and, and trying to see, you know, where the team was headed. Because, you know, I'd have been already a few years that I've been in the league now and, you know, I just want to see some progress and then, and hopefully, you know, make the playoffs, you know, in the next year or two and aspire to win a cup

and with that came the contract negotiation so it was kind of back and forth a little bit and then again on draft day they had offered me a contract and I wasn't crazy about it so I was thinking about it and then when I got back to them which was probably a couple hours before the draft, and I said, okay, I'll agree to it, and the deal was already done. Wow. No way. What made you change your mind in those few hours

that I don't like this deal, to like, I'm willing to take it? Well, the other day I just wanted, do I want to stay or do I want to go? I mean, that was the ultimate decision, right? You know, I wasn't crazy about the contract that was offered, but you know, it wasn't the worst thing. So I really had to decide

Whether I want to stay or go ultimately and when I decided okay, I think this is you know I'll try to stick it out and hopefully, you know, they'll be better days. I signed for more on the next deal and van So Yes, I did. I signed for a little bit more and win-win win-win, you know, the funny the funny part is I signed for a little bit more. Win-win. Win-win, you know, the funny part is about that. And I don't know if anybody knows this, but before I was traded to Vann,

I didn't have a signed contract yet. I actually got offer sheeted by Detroit. No shit. Really? I didn't accept it though. You didn't accept it? I didn't accept it. Was it more than what you ended up getting in Vancouver?

Yeah. That would have been- Well, I didn't know at the time it would have been more, but I- That would have been 0-6-0, going into the 0-6-0-7 season. You would have assumed that, so it never became public that they did that? You didn't have to back that?

No, because I didn't agree to it. I didn't agree to it. Oh, which is weird because like the Broberg and the Holloway one became like those ones- I think you have to accept the offer sheet. The player has to accept it, I think, for two. Oh, okay. No, not now because it came out,

it broke this year that it came and the team, oh no, the player has to accept it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's when it goes public. Okay, so you would never know about some, there must be some wild stories about players getting offer sheeted. I just heard one.

Yeah, well. Yeah. But that must have been like. about players getting offers. She did that. If this third one, yeah. Well, yeah, but that must be like, I had hashing and Osgood that season. Then they signed Howard was probably drafted. No, sis. Yeah. Right around then that's wild. Did you think about that? Or was that an immediate no?

Yeah, it was pretty quick. No. I mean, I just got treated to then and I didn't, you know what I mean? I just wanted to be there. I didn't want to like go to another team. So I always, I thought you traded to Van and I didn't, you know what I mean? I just wanted to be there. I didn't want to like go to another team. So I- Oh, I thought you meant it was from Florida to- So I just got traded to Van

and before I signed my contract in Van, you know, Detroit called me- So they traded for you and then let you get to July 1st? No, I think it was like within a week of the trade. I don't know, I'm not exactly sure how the timeline went down, but- Aggressive play by Detroit. I love that. What I'm not exactly sure how the timeline went down, but. What's the play by Detroit? I love that.

What's weird though is that when you called them back and accepted the offer from Florida, and they're like, the trade's done, it's surprising they hadn't called and told you the trade was done. Like it had been a few hours, right? Yeah, I mean it was literally like probably an hour. The draft was like, take it back.

We were meaning to get back to you. We were celebrating the draft. Bob McKenzie was cracking a beer. He's like, where's Bob on this one? So it was Keenan in management then. Did he start as the head coach there? He was the head coach at the beginning, like a couple of years before. So he was my coach.

And then, you know, it was a little bit of a disagreement, blah, blah, blah. They removed him and then he ended up becoming the GM. And, uh, yeah, Roberto Luongo hall of Famer, great interview. Can't thank him enough for doing that again. Now he's got another cup ring with Florida. So maybe I'll want to do another one next year to keep the superstition going. Next up on the list, Jacob Markstrom and the Greyhound story. Do you remember much on that one?

Arm dog? I do remember this story and it's, it's hard to fathom that this would actually happen, Murls we wrote the bone and rattler a lot in the miners. Um, I can't sleep very well on airplanes or buses. Uh, so this one is kind of crazy story and hard to believe, but, um, one of, one of the old time, like player stories for sure. You gotta hear it to believe it. Waking up in the bus parking lot for no reason.

Jacob Markstrom, take it away. Um, speaking of Florida, going back to San Antonio, one of the funnier stories ever told in the podcast by Ryan Whitney was about you on the sleeper bus. Now I'm going to hand over the keys to you. No pun intended. What ended up happening after this long road trip? And I think it was. What's your recollection of that?

So this is my recollection is we're getting on this sleeper bus late at night from San Antonio. I don't know if it was after a game and then it was after a game and we were playing Oklahoma City the next night. Yeah. And so I get up on that. It's like three levels and I it was two beds where you put your bags, but there was a curtain there on two of the bunks. So like I picked one with the curtains and then I fall asleep really easily, like everywhere

or anywhere. So I just fell asleep right away. And then like I wake up, the bus is standing still. So I'm thinking we're there and then like my phone is ringing in my pocket so like I answer and it's the head coach Chuck Webber and he's like yelling at me he's like where are you? Like the game starts and we're going for a walk or activation the game starts in two and a half hours I was like I'm on the bus where are you?

The bus was here three hours ago four hours ago and then I look out I'm on the bus, where are you? He said, the bus was here three hours ago, four hours ago. And then I look out, I'm at a Greyhound bus parking lot and look on the map in the middle of nowhere, like 40 minutes from Oklahoma City. So then I like, first I try to figure out how to open the bus because it was locked. So then I get out there and it's Sunday, so the office is closed. So like I go bang on there and then go back on the bus. The fences are all locked and it's like barbed wire. So I go on the bus again, grab my blanket in my like San Antonio tracksuit, throw it over the barbed wire and then climb over,

call like a taxi and sit on a rock, like outside the fence waiting. And there's like two MC people like full speed coming at me. And I'm like watching Sons of Energy at the time. Like I was like, this is it. Like this is Jack's Teller pulling up and they pull up to me, look at me and then you turn it away and then taxi comes. I get to the game and I got a few guys like Elander and PRV was on Oklahoma. So they were like, did you just show up?

And I was like, yeah. So that's, yeah, that's the story. I remember Biz. He's like, I woke up and I saw 2000 Greyhound buses around me. Did you play that night? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh my God. You got this. You played good. We lost like a shootout or something, but it was a good game, but it's, I felt like I just like early, early in my career, I just happened to like end up in these hilarious situations where it's like, what's going on. Oh, I couldn't even imagine your anxiety the minute that you kind of came to and figured out where the hell you were.

That would have been fucking nuts. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, thanks. Thanks for waking me up guys. Yeah, he was chirping off. He was chirping off. He was chirping off. Oh, for sure.

You got to check all the bunks. You said you found yourself in more compromising situations. Any other silly ones like that? I mean, we got me and Tyler Plawn, who was my goalie partner, my first year, he was, so our first All-Star break, he was going to Vegas and he was like, you wanna come with me?

Because I didn't have friends or family there. So I was like, sure, I'll go. So from upstate New York to Vegas, took the flight, we were there for like, had no money first of all. So we lived at like a hostel and like, we're there for like two, three days and then storms. We got stuck in Vegas. So we missed our flights and they're all canceled.

So we missed the day of practice. And then the next day we had to take the red ice. So we got like late to practice number two. And then we had the game the next day against the Marlies and I'm playing like coach didn't want put neither of us in the, in the net. He's like, somebody's got a plate. So Mark, you're playing. And then I have a nap and I overslept my nap. So I show about the great at six o'clock for seven o'clock game and then blew up

my knee that game done for the year. No, no. Yeah. So I think it's not funny. It's not funny, but it's like, no, it is funny now when everything worked out. But like I had so many meetings with the Florida management and my agent and, you know, everyone that was sad. That was bad. Oh, that's a tough, you end up at the awards for the Vesna trophy and you're like, thank God.

Thank God it all worked out. It was close. It didn't. It was close. It was close to you being back in Sweden. Yeah, there it is. I totally forgot about it. I do remember it.

I actually remember Whit telling me at the time when it first happened, he's like, you'll never believe this, this Swedish guy. And and that leads us on down the list. Here we go. Number 10, Robert Gronkowski, draft interview with the Patriots when he fell asleep and whatever else went on during that interview, he was crazy, a guy like that. I don't I don't know if he doesn't know anything, but I just remember the camera angle. He had a horrible camera angle.

He was in his own gym or something. And, uh, you know, Gronk is Gronk. Gronk is Gronk all time sports personality. And he let it hang out for the boys in this interview. I just wanted to say, like you get to new England and like, it's just incredible to see what happened and your career and the team, but, but right when you got there, was it intimidating with Brady, with Belichick? How did those guys approach you right off the hop?

Were you kind of quiet, not really yourself walking into the locker room? Or did you walk in like you were just at Arizona, just ripping it up? Absolutely not. I did not walk in like I was at Arizona, just ripping it up. You're very shy at first, quiet, humble.

You've got greatness around you There's no doubt about that. I mean I always had respect for you know, the people that did it before me I mean I have respect for everyone, you know, so, you know just Trying to learn every day just as humble as you can possibly be There's no doubt about that and just trying to improve and gain the respect of these veteran players gain The respect of the teammates there and the coaches so I would say like I really didn't break into myself until about you know a couple games into the season You know, you really can't be yourself

You're kind of walking on eggshells because you don't want to mess up at all You're so scared to mess up, you're kind of walking on eggshells because you don't want to mess up at all. You're so scared to mess up, you know, and that sucks being in that position. That actually makes you a worst player when you're scared to mess up. And, uh, the playbook was difficult as well for me, uh, coming from college was very easy playbook, you know, I lined up basically in the same position. Every single play this playbook I'm all over place. There's different audibles that play can be changed in the huddle. It can be changed, you know, at the line of scrimmage, two plays call that once.

And Tom can actually actually call a different play if he wanted to right on the spot. So it was very difficult for me. So I didn't really get to be myself until about halfway through my rookie year when everything started clicking. And then from there on out, you know, it was game on. Did you fall asleep in your draft meeting with the Patriots? Yeah, I had one of the worst draft meetings of all time. It was actually my last meeting as well.

And I was sick of that shit, bro. I was on like 17 flights in like 15 days, visiting 15 teams. I was like, yo, I'm over this shit. If a team wants to take me, take me. I feel like ass, you know, going all over the place. But New England was my last one. I was like, I'm going all out with him. I don't give a shit no more. I'm just gonna, I'm gonna walk in like I'm at the University of Arizona walking into a party

because I'm sick of putting on a show. Like, cause you, you gotta be humble. You can't, you know, you know, you can't fricking think you're the shit walking into these meetings. NFL means you never even played a Dow So I'm like, I'm gonna be like that though going into winning because I'm over this frickin process I first fall asleep on the table right in front of right in front of one of the Highest members of the team, you know, but I need a nap. It wasn't like I was in meeting anything

So then they bring me into the meeting room, man. It was a disaster, bro I just started talking about my time at Arizona how I was in a meeting or anything. So then they bring me into the meeting room, man. It was a disaster, bro. I just started talking about my time in Arizona, how I was like, I mean, I remember Billy Oh, he's like, you remember walking home from parties in college? I was like, absolutely not. Like, you should join me too, coach. And he's like, well, let's draw up this play.

All right, he draws up the play, he raises it, write the play on the board. I'm like, I don't even know the play that you drew. I have no clue. Like like that was too difficult for me I was over the whole process and they were like and I was like, yo But I don't drop a play and throw me the ball guarantee I catch it and make some yards It's like when you can't even remember play How can I throw your balls like you'll you'll find a way to throw me the ball

Like I was reading myself like that I left and I was like, yo this team either hates me and they cross me off the board or they love me. And they ended up, they love me, man. It worked out. Couldn't have been a better fit. That's beautiful. That is unbelievable. Yeah.

Billy O basically interviewed me. Belichick must have been like, what the fuck is wrong with this guy? I mean, Belichick didn't interview me at all. It was Billy O, Billy O'Brien, who's the head coach at Boston College right now, football team. And we had the greatest relationship, man. I love that guy. Oh, that is all time. That is all time. Yeah, that was awesome. I love, I don't know, I know some of the hockey people, they don't like

when they go out of the hockey, what do you call it, atmosphere. But I like hearing from the other athletes once in a while. And it was really something to get to hear from him and be that open to us. It was really cool. And speaking of being really open, nobody got more open in the hockey world than Gabriel Landisgog at number 11. They get him on in his epic comeback. Of course, there's a documentary on him this year, Merl's Swedish guy. So he has his place in your heart.

I know that, but he had a place in, I think everyone's heart this year with his, with his comeback story and what that felt like. I get goosebumps just thinking about it, just talking about Gabriel Landeskog this year, kind of player he is one, how well spoken he is and like the leadership qualities he has, and then the kind of player that he is too, right? Like I love him. He'll fight. He does it all. And it was just a massive, awesome story this year. And the fact that the boys got him, Merle's on Chicklets explaining his struggle through rehab

and surgery and the question marks and made for an all time interview. Gabe, I was just going to go back to the original injury for people who haven't like really heard the story. Like I remember when I heard you were out with a knee, like you always assume it's like an ACL or whatever. You just read knee, right? But from watching the trailer, it was a cut that you sustained. And I want to say maybe it was in the bubble and then something that was obviously stitched

up. You think it's a quad cut, you stitch it up, you play through it as we all do. And then it was something that kind of kept bothering you and lingering on and it kept getting worse and worse and worse. So take us kind of through the timeline, how the original injury happened

and kind of like what you had to do afterward. Yeah, I mean, freak accident in the bubble where, you know, game six against Dallas for kale kind of gets pushed from behind and he falls down and as he's falling down, I think he's turning around and his skate just kind of comes up and cuts me right on the quad. We were worried about the quad tendon being ruptured at first, but that turned out to not be the case. And it turned out to be just kind of a last duration across, you know, we thought it was just originally skin, I guess, because the quad tendon was intact, but

it turned out that the vascular lateralis, which is the muscle that runs along the side of your quad, uh, had been nicked and so we did some PRP on that to help heal that, so three rounds of that finally helped. And, and then I was back for training camp that next COVID shortened season. Uh, and I keep in mind, like I'd never had any issues before the bubble. And, and then it started kind of during that COVID shortened season, 2021, it started bugging me a little bit, but not that bad and you just kind of manage it. And then it was the following fall, kind of the fall of 2021 where it started

bugging me and then grinded through the first half of that season before we did the first scope to clean it out. Uh, and then, uh, and then, yeah, then 20 games of playoff hockey will do some damage. Incredibly. You had 22 points. Like you were over a point per game. You're playing injured,

and in the first episode you talk, I finally got feeling real good. And I don't know, that was after the scope, I'm assuming, right before playoffs, and I think you said you stepped on the ice for one of the first games, and you're like, oh my God. You had to play that whole playoff in brutal pain, and then it's almost like you're able to just push it aside,

you played Unreal, you win it, and then not only is it the come down from winning it all, but it's like, now I gotta start doing this. That was probably the most difficult thing. And what was the pain like? What was the feeling like? Yeah, it's sharp. It's sharp.

I mean, I keep saying it's like somebody's putting a knife in behind your kneecap. And you can't, well, you can't do, you can, if you're standing straight, you're good. And if you're on two legs, you're good, but to bend your, my right leg in this case, and to get any sort of flexion on one leg, there's no chance I couldn't do it. I, if I was kind of on both, both legs, I could do it.

And it was, it obviously is painful, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I'm the only one that plays through pain in the playoffs. Like you guys know what it's like. And it, so everybody goes through it. And I didn't think during the playoff run, I was going to sit here two and a half years later. I really didn't. I knew it was going to put some damage on it, but I'm like, I'll deal with it later. It's like, just let's get through this.

We knew what a heck of a team we had and we knew what an opportunity we had. And didn't want to miss that opportunity. And it didn't want to have any regrets. And, uh, you know, I used to, I just really had to figure it out afterwards. And kind of after that partying start stops after, you know, a few weeks. And I get back in the gym thinking, okay, I just need to, you know, add some strength. I just need to get the inflammation down and I just need this, that, but it took a

long time and, and then come to realize we really need that big surgery after all. Being an athlete and hockey player, especially guys are always like, I'll like you, like you said, I'll figure this out down the road. What was the conversation when you had to have with your trainers to kind of go back and revisit it and look at and get it scoped? Was that kind of something that you had to bring to them or was it you guys were on the same page the whole time? Like how many opinions did you end up getting?

Right. A lot, a lot, but in the fall of 2022, and this is like how my mind's working. It's like my whole injury history now is like just, there are these key dates, right? So excuse me if I keep repeating the dates, but in the fall of 2022, I think it was the start of September, I go to Chicago and I go to Minnesota to get two different opinions.

And in Chicago was Dr. Brian Cole, who's ultimately ended up doing my cartilage transplant. And he flat out told me, and I was going in there ready for him to say, like, oh, we can clean this up. Like, we can give you a better shot at this, to skate pain-free. But I remember him looking at me and just being like, man, there's, obviously there's a lot of damage in there.

And now you have two options. Option number one is you do a scope Try to clean it up. You do rehab you take your time with it. You add the strength you need you do this you do that and then if it's an acceptable kind of level you can play an acceptable level to you and to your team and you can Kind of almost in a way like if you can just suck up and play do it And you can kind of almost in a way, like if you can just suck up and play, do it. But if you can't, he's like, you're your only other option. Your only other hope is doing osteochondral oligraft with a tibial tubercle osteotomy and the tibial tubercle osteotomy is when they cut your shinbone,

like the top of your tibia, which is that little bump that you have under your knee. And mine's even bigger now because they like pulled it forward to create more room inside the joint. Um, and I'm sitting there September. I'm like, I'm not ready. What? Yeah. I'm not ready to write off the next year and a half. I didn't feel like I'd given the first rehab, like that much of a chance given

that we jumped into the playoffs plan every other day and And granted, I didn't practice in the playoffs. I just kind of waited for the games, but nonetheless, it's like a lot of hockey and it's a lot of crashing and banging, obviously, but so we ended up getting to doing the other route, went to Minnesota, did another scope and I'm like, okay, I'm just going to take however many months it takes to like, get my rehab right this time. And then we get into like month two and I'm like, there's no relief. Like not at all.

Like that was normally like month two, you're supposed to be able to kind of get on the ice after scope like that. There was no shot. And that's really when, when I started struggling, when I didn't see much hope. And here we are like December of 2022. And you know, you're still, cause you're still, I was still around the team and you don't want to be that guy to drag everybody down into your thing. But same time guys are wondering how you're doing.

They're worried about you and whatnot. But so I ended up going back to, going back to Toronto for a bit. And then went to Philadelphia, started rehab in there. It's all a little bit of improvement with Bill's training, but at the same time, it's like Bill always said with the cartilage injury and the lesion that you have behind your kneecap, he's like the, the potholes already there. Like there's not much you can, you can do with that. So yeah, then I skated a bit kind of started that new years, 2023 there,

February or something. Then come right around as the guys were heading into the playoffs, we were facing Seattle that year, first round. Um, I was bright as I was traveling with Seattle to the team. I was having like, that's when I really started doing a lot of research into the surgery and talking to people. And, and I would talk to quote unquote, like normal people that have had it and asked them about their, their journey and whatnot.

So, um, yeah, ended up settling on that. And, and actually at that point, I was kind of getting excited. I'm like, sweet, there's some hope. There's some, there's, there might be a solution to this, um, you know, and, but you don't realize like how long the road actually is and on me ups and downs there. I actually like, I know it sounds crazy, but I know how you feel. I had an osteotomy on my foot and how crazy it is where you're actually

cutting like a piece of the bone out. And so I know when you talk about that feeling of just like, Oh, it's not, it's not getting better. Like it's just, it's devastating. And then what you say too is so true, like of having some hope, like, all right, I'm into this surgery. And now it's like, all right, after this, I'm going to feel better. So since all the rehab, since the big surgery that you had, like, what

has been like your best moment, right? Like what is it? Cause you need wins along the way. Like if you had moments you look back on, you're like, all right, yes. Like I'm feeling something. I'm feeling alive again per se when it comes to my career and what I love to do. Yeah. I mean, I've had some really good skates.

Like I had, I've had some really good skates where I'm like, okay, just get me out there. Just put me out there right now. Get me in the lineup. I'm ready. And then it's such a delicate thing where it's like, there's so many components. And then, you know, it goes to. At one point, it wasn't even about the knee. It was about the quad and like kind of my neurological damage that was done

after that cut, and then you play on it. So your, your, your, your muscles in your body, the way it moves, kind of. It compensates, right? And getting rid of old compensation patterns. And there's so many delicate things, but there's definitely been skates where I'm like, okay, I'm, I'm ready. I can, if it stays like this, I'm good. Uh, but you've got to keep training and you kind of, you can't go from here to.

The plane, you got to kind of earn, earn every step and, and that's what we're trying to do and, and I think we're getting closer. We keep trending in the right direction. Uh, and obviously there's, there's a lot of work to do still, but I'm excited about where we're at and, uh, yeah. Did you, uh, did you, so you had 22 points in playoffs when you weren't practicing? I mean, it's what Joe Sacka goes says he's like, rest really is the weapon. And I don't know. It's just like, it's, Joe Sackagos says. He's like, rest really is the weapon. And I don't know.

It's just like, it's, uh, I don't know. There's the playoffs, you're running along, running on adrenaline. And for me, it's just like the extra practice was not worth it for me when I wasn't feeling good. And, and obviously in games, uh, you know, you get that adrenaline pumping completely different than you are going up and down the ice doing, doing drills. So he's kind of do what it takes. Uh, and, uh, and I think that I'm a no different than a lot of other guys that way.

What were you taking? Advil a little deep cold on the rub there. Maybe a bud Kilmer special. That's it. A little ice pack before to freeze it up. You shut your mouth. If you knew it was good for you. It's so like when you're playing, you just never want to practice, especially the dog days of the year.

But now you're probably like would do anything to be out there with the guys, right? You know what? That's 100% true. But also there's so many things like that, not just to practice him, but it just like pregame meals on the road that you eat 41 times and eventually they get you the same thing. But like I would die to go in there and see that spread right now or just to get like the dinners on the road and just, I don't know, the shitty practice drinks you go to on the road sometimes. Like all that stuff that you really don't all the stuff that you just you just naturally take for granted because you do it so much. But man, I miss it. I miss the guys, the camaraderie. I'll see I'm around a lot, but you know, you're not in the heat of the battle.

Um, you know, the, the moments in locker room, the travel, all the good stuff. Uh, but also like just, I don't know, just to compete, just being in there and competing and actually, you know, sitting across the room from somebody and you, you know, you're, you're trying to accomplish the same thing as he is and, and you're, you might be doing it differently, but you're all pulling on the rope in the same way. And I think that compete with that. That team aspect. I mean, as you guys would know, there's, there's not much out there that, that

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people in hockey and especially out in that New Jersey, Boston area. And, um, you know, so this hit home. Cause everyone is separated. Merle's a little, I know a lot of your buddies that I met through hockey that I didn't even know they were your friends. And that's kind of how it is. And, but nonetheless, um, this was, this was a tough one to get through. Here's where the boys discuss and talk about their memory and memories of Matthew and Johnny Goodrow this year.

What's up everyone? Myself and Biz are here. Just an absolute tragedy that happened this past week. And we recorded an episode last week, it was Wednesday. We were going to take just a little time off before the season previews. This news crushed us all and we totally understood of having to come back on and talk about Johnny and Matthew and what actually went down.

There's really no words. This is one of the hardest things we've ever had to do and I don't really even know know what to say as as I think is the main sentiment with with the news of their passing Is that it's just unspeakable. It's it's an unimaginable tragedy to lose two Amazing people forget hockey just amazing people fathers people forget hockey just amazing people fathers soon-to-be father and Matthew and in the prime of their life in an absolutely you know just disgusting disgusting move by this drunk driver it's just I it's really hard to sit here

and make sense of it all I don't think it's really possible. I got a text Thursday night, it was about 10.50 from somebody I'm close with who said, listen, I'm hearing like something awful happen with the Goudreau brothers. And I was like, what do you mean? And the guy said, apparently, I think they got hit by a drunk driver. They're on their bicycles. I'm like, what? And the guy said, I think they got hit by a drunk driver.

They're on their bicycles. I'm like, what? And I wrote, are they alive? And he said, no. And right away I called Biz, and it wasn't even verified. This guy knew, but it was the shock and the kind of horror of it. You're just like, what, what?

And then, you know, at that point I had no idea it's his sister's wedding. The circumstances that go into this, it is one of the most awful, tragic stories I've ever heard in my life. And it doesn't even like matter that Johnny was this NHL superstar. It's just two family members celebrating what was probably one of the best nights of their lives, right? Their sisters getting ready to get married the next day, all their family, all their friends, they're in town. It's the end of summer, season's starting soon. They do probably the right thing by hopping on two bikes, right?

Maybe they had a couple drinks and nothing wrong and they're dead. And it's something where you're just like, you sit around, I woke my wife up who didn't know John and I won't pretend at all to be we weren't very close friends But in the time I got to spend with him Just an unreal guy like so humble like no ego So funny to be around like didn't care at all He was a he was an NHL superstar like probably didn't even know it honestly like that in talking to Kevin Hayes who? God my heart breaks for him as well. It was just such a normal, he was such a normal guy.

And then you hear stories of Matthew and I saw a post of somebody who was trying out for, I think the Omaha Lancers, USHL team and said how good of a guy he was. He knew that this apparent kid wasn't going to make the team and still included him in everything. It's just like, it's just so gross that this happened. It's like, it just makes no sense. And Biz, when I called you right away, you were just obviously as crushed as anyone. And it's just, I'm just kind of rambling,

but what else do you do in something like this? Yeah, this is just, like this is smoke to hockey community. All I've been able to, like all weekend, just every hour on the hour, you're just thinking about his family and what they're going through right now and how they've they've been shattered at this stupid act and yeah, I just, it just, you just resort back to friends and family and how gutted you are for what they're going through.

And I mean, like you said, you didn't really know Johnny that well personally, and neither did I, but obviously we're close with Kevin Hayes and the hands and you know, it's like hockey guys, like, you know, what's he like? And then they both look at you, they both give you that look and they'd be like, he's the best, he's the best. And when they say that you just know, and then getting the chance to meet him a few times and just reading all the messages about him is exactly how you describe, like these kids weren't hurt a fly. They were the best of friends with everyone. And given all this superstardom with

Johnny, like you said, you would just never know, just so humble, no ego, and just so beloved anywhere he went, anyone he touched. And this is just, this is brutal. This is a tragedy guys, and I'll keep reiterating. I just, my condolences and my heart goes out to the family and friends that are gonna be dealing with this for a while. This is something that just, this has rocked the hockey community. Yeah, it just, like I said before, it just makes no sense. You're just like, all these people are there to celebrate

a loved one friend's wedding, and then they're all staying around for services, like what the fuck? I talked to Kevin quick that night and I just kept saying I'm so sorry. It was like all I could say. It's like close to three years to the day of losing his brother Jimmy, who was 31 years old at the time.

It's like, holy shit. And in thinking of Johnny Gatrow, this kid came to BC, this kid was told he was too small his entire life. He comes to BC, they're like, oh, what's this kid going to do? He lit up the USHL. Remember, Monty was telling us about him, Jim Montgomery, trying to make himself a little heavier in the combine stuff. And comes to BC, oh, yeah, he lit up the USHL but he's tiny. Well, he comes into BC and just dominates his freshman year.

Scored one of the most beautiful goals you could ever see to seal the national championship game. Gee, I think it was like Ferris State they were playing maybe. Yeah, it was incredible. When he went to the back and top shelf, it was one of the most beautiful goals you've ever seen. And John Butcher-Grasse had some beautiful words

with a tweet about, you know, with that goal in it and just kinda talking about him. And then sophomore year he comes back, he lights it up even more. Then junior year, you're like, whoa, I think he had 80 points, he wins the Hobie Baker. And still, what you heard around hockey circles was like, ah, this kid can't do it in the NHL, he's just too small.

And that didn't slow him down one bit. Right after the season ended at BC, he went to Calgary, scored a goal in his first game. The next year he lights it up. He continued to get better and better and like all of a sudden nobody was talking about his size. It was like almost like a strength for him because he was so you couldn't catch him, you couldn't hit him and then as with all the greatest players, but especially these smaller guys like his hockey IQ like the plays he would make and the hockey IQ part of it goes back to when the kid was probably seven years old. There was a clip that's gone around viral for years now of him at the brick tournament and he's spin around him behind the net.

The goalie's on the other side. Like he was truly a prodigy, I think you could say, because he was always so undersized and he was always the best player. Jordan Schmalz had a post about playing against him. They were the same birth year and like every time he was like four or five points Goudreau. Like he can't do it at the next level and he always did it at the next level. And then he'd somehow, you know, ends up leaving Calgary where people were so shocked. And what was it about?

It was about being close to his family. And you read articles. There was an old, I think, players' tribune article or athletic, I'm not exactly sure where it talked about the bond between him and his brother. That's like the hardest thing. I think parents out there and maybe you think a two brother, two sisters, it doesn't even matter, but like how close they were in this article talked that even though, and it was John

and Maddie, which I got a kick out of, it was Johnny hockey to the hockey world, but in their family, it was John and Maddie which I got a kick out of it was Johnny hockey To the hockey world, but in their family it was John and Maddie and Maddie was two years younger But he kind of seemed almost like a big brother to Johnny this article talks about Johnny didn't know where to go to school and he's like Matt you you you pick You decide and Kevin gave a amazing Instagram post You decide and Kevin gave a amazing Instagram post Talking about the day at BC when he was asked to take Johnny and Matt around school and like little did he know the friendships he would gain and

And Kevin said like the other day. He's like, I just cannot believe I can't call him again I can't believe it and that's like it just hits you like this thing is Biz said It's just all since Thursday night. It's just like random times during the day. I'm just like just got it like just crushed with like, you know grief and and and just Your heart breaks for this family and it's like nobody deserves this but I think that the amazing thing is that Johnny Goudreau will live on forever with people.

I mean, this is a guy who just, he proved everyone wrong. I think Cole Caulfield posted something on My Hero with the broken heart emoji as an undersized guy. Like there are undersized kids to this day that have just dreamed of being Johnny Gaudreau and watched how he played and carried himself. And it's just it's an unspeakable tragedy that the whole entire hockey world has been just rock to the core, as you said, Biz. And I don't I don't really know, like And I don't really know where you go from here. You just pray, I just pray that his family's able to

get over it someday, and then there's a side of you can you ever get over that? That's the saddest thing. That's the hardest part is, thinking of somebody losing a son or a daughter and you lose your two sons at one time. It's like, oh my God, it could be 20 years from now. I'll think of this and you'll just be emotional, just feeling just sick for the Goudreau family.

So it's a horrible, horrible day that'll kind of live on forever in hockey. I can't believe that Johnny Goodrose, dad, you just can't, you can't even believe it. He was like a larger than life figure. It was Johnny hockey. It's like, it was just so shocking and I know I'm rambling, but I don't know. We have this episode, like we mentioned, we did Wednesday.

We're going to put it on after this. You could understand if people don't want to listen, you could understand if you're looking to just take your mind off things and want to listen. If you do, if you don't, no problem whatsoever. But my last thing, I guess, would be this kind of teaches you, and we've said this before, it's like you don't have a clue what's coming around the corner in life. Nobody has a clue. And because of that, you kind of just don't ever pass up an opportunity to tell a loved one you love them, to give them a

hug because nobody has an idea what's coming tomorrow or later today. It's just, that's how fucked up this life is. So, rest in peace, John Godreau, Matthew Godreau, and so sorry for the Godreau family. May they find peace. So hug your loved ones and we'll see you guys a week from today. We'll get some season previews going. But I love both you guys. I love you guys. R.A. thinking R.A. as well and we'll see you next week Yeah, that's a tough one to get through. It still doesn't feel real, but our prayers are with the family. And moving on is on that's it for the list.

Next up is our Chicklets Cup in Boston, September 25th through 27th Army. I have a championship. My teammates are all over me to stay on and we're going to try to move up. We're going to play C next year. But are, are there thoughts of a game notes team? Do I need to jump ship? I was going to say at your hall of fame induction, I was hearing it from your buddies on how great they are and how many cups they have and chiclets cups

and this and that, but you know, in this roller division, it's a wild west over there. I don't know. I should we put together a, a game notes roller team? Merle's you might have to play on two teams. You got to play with your buddies. Okay. And then we might have to have the, the, the big dog. We might have to put some teams together.

We got like so many guys, Patty Maroon, all these guys, uh, we could, we could get on it nonetheless. So Merle's I'm so looking for it. How about this? I'll do, we'll do game notes. Nonetheless, so Murls, I'm so looking forward. How about this? I'll do, we'll do game notes, roller a team, and then I'll slide down and still play with my sandbag and play with my buddies and see. There you go. Come on out.

It's in Boston this year. So this is kind of a homecoming for the pod and for the boys. So, uh, I look forward to seeing everybody there, Murr. I can't wait till next season starts. And it was a great look back at some of the great moments from the fellas, spittin' chicklets, the best fans in the world. There are some great moments from the 24-25 season. Thank God I came up with the idea. Don't know any other way

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