Spittin Chiclets - Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 596: Featuring Marián Gáborík

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

On Episode 596 of Spittin’ Chiclets, the boys are joined by an all-time guest, Marián Gáborík, to talk about his unreal career, highlight reel goals, locker room stories and much more. But first, Biz shaved his head and he’s been electric on back-to-back TNT hits — especially alongside blind hockey vet Craig Fitzpatrick. The Chiclets Cup video dropped this week, Peakin’ comes next week, and the league is pure chaos. Ottawa locks in Shane Pinto long-term, the Leafs are spiraling with injuries, cold PP, and sitting near the bottom of the Atlantic. The Bruins just keep rolling with seven straight and Pasta hitting 400. Nashville continues to sink, while Scott Wedgewood’s huge season sparks Team Canada Olympic chatter. The boys debate USA’s goalie race, and take a look around the league at all the big storylines. Then it’s time for RA’s World. Tune in and don’t miss a thing. 00:00:00 - START 00:00:31 - CHICLETS UPDATES 00:04:38 - AROUND THE LEAGUE 00:18:07 - OLYMPIC GOALIES 00:21:31 - PINTO CONTRACT 00:37:56 - MARIAN GABORIK INTERVIEW 02:10:29 - RA’s WORLD 02:41:50 - ETC. Support the Show: DISCOVER: Get cash back on every purchase with the Discover It card. Learn more at discover.com/creditcard https://www.discover.com/nhl GAMETIME: Download the Gametime app today and use code CHICLETS for $20 off your first purchase DRAFTKINGS: GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, [phone] or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD).  21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in NH/OR/ONT. Eligibility restrictions apply. Terms: draftkings.com/sportsbook. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). Fees may apply in IL. 1 per new customer. Must register new account to receive reward Token. Must select Token BEFORE placing min. $5 bet to receive $300 in Bonus Bets if your bet wins. Min. -500 odds req. Token and Bonus Bets are single-use and non-withdrawable. Token expires 11/23/25. Bonus Bets expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 11/16/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. PRIME: • Prime Monday Night Hockey is available free to Prime members in Canada. Start your free trial: https://www.primevideo.com • For the full Prime Monday Night Hockey schedule, visit https://www.primevideo.com/salp/nhl. HEYDUDE: SHOP the new NHL Collection now at https://heydude.comYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/schiclets

Hey, spit and chicklets listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is basketball sports. I brought it towards the coyotes, and I asked him if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chicholts podcast full-time. Ryan Whitney's got a pink Whitney out there now. There's a fan bagger, get that on camera. Keith Yandah, the songman. Kate is a full-time member.

Marley just got an assist from Chris Bates. Whoa, we're buzzing right now. Sunk. What is up, folks? Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to episode 596 of the Spit and Chickles podcast, presented by Discover. Sponsored by Discover, the official credit card of the NHL. No matter if your team wins or loses, Discover is there for you. With the Discover IT card, you can earn cash back on every purchase.

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And maybe he'll catch when that we potentially might have an interview locked up at the Winter Classic with Tom Brady. Oh, man, yeah, I don't want to give that. It's going to be tough if we don't get it now, but maybe a little pressure from Chicklets fans for help. That's what I'm trying to do right now. Exactly. I hear you.

I hear you, I like that. He's a big noble guy. He's part owner of the company, if not majority owner of the company. And, you know, their official shoe of the NHL now, right? They're athletic gear. And I'm on board, too. So we got to do it. I mean, come on, Tommy, we need you to get the go.

I mean, gee, would cream his pants. if we got Tom Brady on the podcast. Especially she live. Imagine seeing that guy in the flesh, that handsome bastard. Imagine him shaking G's skinny hands. But if he says, oh, come on, but G can't be there. Do we still do it? Oh, God, yeah.

We'll see you, G. I love you. We'll see you next week for episode 632. Get a good outline going, buddy. And we'll tell you what Tom said. It was a blast talking to him. And I will say, we don't have Tom Brady lined up. Let's hope.

Let's cross our fingers. But we just finished an interview about an hour and 20 minutes with Marion Gaborik. That was excellent. I hope all you guys enjoy this one. What a great guy. What a career he had. Some stories. I never heard some of these stories. And just

an elite level skater. So good at skating that he basically injured himself because he was too fast. That's kind of what it came down to. But I think everyone's going to really enjoy this. First thing we do have to get to is business spent the last two nights on TNT. Yeah. And

Oh, wow. You were being called out not as a fraud, but the statement was made that if you lost another busy bets, you were going to shave your head, or it was Panarin that I think had you shave your head. But you kind of, you kind of half-assed it. That's what the world was saying. That's what the internet was saying. You haven't seen this, Biz? You're acting crazy?

You haven't seen the comments how you half-assed it? He went to the wood. You didn't go to the wood and then the leagues got taken to the woodshed. I know, but I can't go to the wood because I have Shane Badiye, Sharpe. payhead. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a weird back to my head. Wow. If I go down to the wood, like, there's areas in the, like the crevices where I can't get to it, it looks even weirder. No, I didn't know that. Makes total sense. Yeah, no, I mean, my brain's

deflating, so it doesn't fill up my whole skull. Oh, I just wondered, is that just born like that? How does that happen to people? I just think that guys like Jeremy Oblotsky and John Marassi beat my head in. So I'm glad I brought this up So anyone out there saying Biz didn't go full into it You couldn't thank you for not Thank you

You're welcome And like if you see me shave my head down to this short And you say that I'm a fraud You're a fucking clown This is like this is a number three Now mind you I went in to get a haircut And it was my regular guy was not there

And I said I'll just do that guy And that didn't work out great To the point where I was like Ah Just shave it so tough we were we were connecting uh like offensive chemistry like the rangers did at msg for the first seven games of the season uh but you know at least we figured things out now i look like our tennie panarin uh i am buzzing just like him so i got listen aside from my

shitty head here uh i got bigger fish to fry my trinal may beliefs look lost right now austin matthews week to week now with an injury so i i'm in a depressive state i saw an incredible it was a tweet mentioning that since Matthews has come to Toronto they've traded 41 draft picks including seven first rounders for just a couple losses in the second round kind of crazy and now people are discussing

how much they need someone like Rasmus Anderson Tanev is out that guy completely changes the blue line but overall a very very slow team and I watched Boston beat him for the second game in a row 5-3 that was Tuesday night I I didn't even Matthews leaves the game with injury

Stollars also injured I believe He'd been playing very poorly Even leading up to it It's a tough time And I'm not anyone to sit here and glow Like my team's on a winning street But we got lucky with an off-sides In Philadelphia or else we weren't getting a point in that game

So it's not like I'm sitting here laughing at you But things aren't good in Toronto And it's going to get very very ugly If they don't fix things Would you say from the media point of view a couple people were well first of all Stolars is tired

Walt they need the one two punch back right they need to get that tandem buzzing again obviously depleted on the back end they got a couple HLD in the lineup right now the Matthews hit some people were complaining about it that was a fucking nothing burger from Zadora just plain physical and some people

based on last year were like oh no we're stuck with Sadorov at the money that we're paying them for as long as we are I would say one of the biggest complete 180s from a fan base in recent memory. He's playing like he's playing like a man possessed and he's helping instill that big bad Bruins team again. That's what their identity has always been, a hard team to play against. And Wayne was actually talking about after watching game six when they played Vancouver

in the finals years back where he's like, oh no, Vancouver's in tough here. That team just fucking beat the shit out of them and they play as hard as a team that I ever seen play. So credit to Zedorov and the rest of that group, seven in a row for the Bruins. Crazy. Good start. I think they rattled off three in a row to start the year. Then they went on that losing skid. And it seems like Marco Sturms really righted the ship and they're responding well to what he's got going in the locker room. And going back to the TNT because that was game one, that was kind of the appetizer for the two big dogs in the West, right? You had the Anaheim

ducks who are trying to get to achieve a level of what we've seen out of the Colorado Avalanche over the last four or five years and sustained dominance, well, at least in the regular season, they did have their cup. But I thought that was a great measuring stick game. I know it ended 4-1, but I was very impressed with this young group in Anaheim and not only how fast they are, but how they can hang with them defensively. Like they weren't giving up a ton. Like that was just a good fast, tight checking game.

with a little bit of everything. So I don't know what you guys thought of it. Obviously, right now, Colorado is in a league of their own. They're playing at a different level. But what did you make of that game seeing what Anaheim brought? I got to say, I can't believe how good Truba looks. I looked it up, okay? And I didn't, shame on me for not really understanding, like, his offensive game.

Oh, yeah. He's got 11 points in 16 games this year. He had a 50-point season in Winnipeg. he has two years in the league with double-digit goals. Him already having four this year makes me think he'll probably hit it again this year considering how Anaheim can skate and score with anyone. And I'm just like, wow, because he had that assist.

I think he had an assist in that game, right? I thought it was a goal where he banked it off of the N-wall. Yeah, Carlson ended up banging. He came around the net and gave it to Carlson. He made it one-one. But that game was, that game, it was funny because I was excited for that. and it was like McCar to McKinnon to Leckon in 20 seconds in.

It's like, okay, welcome to the big leagues boys. But then they answered pretty quick. Leo Carlson almost had a complete highlight real goal for his second goal at night. It ended up being saved. But McKinnon is just totally busy. I think it was last episode. Like he is the best player in the world right now. It's not even close.

He has 12 points in his last three games. McCar is the best defenseman in the world. That's not even close. I know we could get into a scary moment in vain. Vancouver, where Quinn Hughes left the game, they lost again to Winnipeg Tuesday night. He had three assists, though. So he came back. I think he's okay, but it doesn't look.

And granted, Vancouver is not Colorado. Like, the Quinn Hughes-McCarr argument of last year, it's not even like the same planet right now. And part of that has to do with teammates and all that. But that game was basically like Colorado, they're on Saba. Landiscau gets his first. Natushkin's out there running around. It's just, they are the cream of the. the crop right now in the

NHL. So there's two things I want to talk about from that game. Did you guys see the high stick from Natchez on Coulorne that Quinville was losing it on? I don't think Natchez has a mean bone in his body and that was clearly a follow through. Quinville

kind of made it seem like he like stabbed him in the eye after the follow through. What did you guys make? I respect the shit out of Q just because he's trying to stick up for his guy. Obviously, he was hoping for the five-minute major so they would have a chance to maybe tie that game up. But he's probably just defending his guy in Coulorne, who's been an incredible veteran for that lineup and helping advance a lot of these guys, you know, from being young bucks in the league. I mean, Gans, you played for him.

Like, what did you make of it? Yeah, that's how he is. Like, he's going to go to bat for his guys all the time. You know, at least in that situation, too. It's not like after the game where you have time to see the replay and then you can look at it. Like in the heat of the game, you're going to get full raw dog cue and he's going to have your back. And that's why he's a player's coach. And you can tell that.

You can just tell by the way that they're playing for him right now. But yeah, I don't think it was as bad as he thought it was. Yeah, another thing I took away, LA seems to be quietly like figuring figuring things out. I didn't know. They dusted Montreal. They've won the last nine games against the Canadian. So some teams you just have your number against them. So they went into Montreal and kind of clean them up pretty easily.

Celebrini was insane again against the wild Tuesday night. He had, I don't know if you saw Will Smith's goalbiz. They won an OT. Celebrini had a sick pass to Colin Graf. He buries it. The first goal of the game for San Jose, Will Smith's. Celebrity comes in.

he kicks it wide. He ends up getting it back to Foley finds him with this six scene pass. He goes through the crease to Smith. I was like, whoa, that was like off the rush. It was excellent. Celebrating against two apples. Smith scores again. They kind of keep humming along, dude. The sharks are, they are, I mean, at the beginning

of the year, we were like, what is going on? He's going to give up a child, and David was Ryan Wasowski. He's got no more kids. Yeah, he gave all his kids away, and he's winning. So, you know, if you're an NHL coach, you'll take it. That's how competitive this league is. But I was like, looking at the numbers reading about the wild now the wild have figured things out a little bit

they're four one and one in their last six because zook's back zook's back which has made a huge difference but how about tuesday night um caprisov's line in that game against san jose outchanced 17 to three at five on five so i know that there's some people saying they need a little bit more from caprisov he has i think 22 points in 18 games so it's not like this guy is it producing. But when you're getting dominated at five on five like that, that is kind of surprising. But I guess there was a players-only meeting for the wild Spurgeon called it. They have figured things out a little bit. It's just this league is so competitive right now. There's in the Eastern Conference, I think the entire, is it the entire league of the Eastern Conference,

there's five teams under 500. So every single night, even the Sharks, Chicago looks completely different. And showed out again to Jeff Blaschell for coming on. The Blackhawks fan loved that. He's very animated. And, Biz, that game, the devil's kind of dominated them. Yeah. But still, the Hawks didn't go away. The atmosphere in there looked like it was back in 2010.

That was the thing. Like, when they scored that power play goal, five on three, that looked like the old United Center when they won, like, their three-cup dynasty. So it's great to see, man, when the United Center is a lot like that. I think that Frank, the tank was in attendance with Stu Feiner. and his wife and they were with one other guy and then the mascot is it Tony the Hawk is it Tony the Hawk Tommy the Hawk yeah Tommy Hawk he went up and gave it like Tommy the Hawk masks to put on Frank because I I want to say it was Frank's is Frank 50 he might have just

turned 50 and that was his birthday gift from Stu so happy birthday if it is Frank's Frank's birthday but uh what were we talk happy birthday Frank the tank biz how about how about how about Witt getting some under the hood stats there you're changing a little witty you're changing he's talking about my 17 to 3 out scoring chances I read

that in an article I think it was Rousseau in the athletic the guys dialed in with the wild I believe the article was by him let me see here right here Pasha Whitney Joe Smith it was Joe Smith what we've learned is they pulled out of a season opening skid just kind of check it up

on the wild I really like wild fans I think it's a very, wild fans and Blue Jacket fans, I have a lot of respect for. And I believe they came into the league the same year. Maybe, G, looked that up right around the same time. Yeah, I think you're right. Another thing that shocked me in reading up of Tuesday Night's games is Washington. They went into Carolina. They whipped up on them, right?

Carolina biz right now, their power play is clicking at 12%. they're 31st out of 32 and I like there's zero chance you will do a thing come playoff time without a power play you know who helped their power play who you got martin ages yeah you're right actually you bring that up because I also saw a tweet that Keith I'll go to you on this I think you know the meme of the guy with all the swords pointed at him and it's like give me a take that would get this type of reaction The tweet was that Carolina is better off with Stankhoven Colorado's better off with Natchez and Dallas is better off with Rontin So basically like the trade really worked out with all of them That's fair

Kind of an everybody winner Yeah Stankovin doesn't have the name power I don't think yet but I think he's earning it Hey how about him stepping up the other night I know I loved it fight Ferrevi and it was his first ever fight in anything, he said. Buddy, he looked like a fucking nail gun hopping in for,

he hopped in for somebody. Who was the guy behind the net that didn't do anything originally? Yeah. Walker? I don't know. I don't know, but he hopped in for his teammates. So when I saw that, then all of a sudden that that sword take is very fair.

And I take my nature's comment back. He gave it like the hair back with the blood dripping down. Oh, yeah. Just profile pit. If you're a female. no shit switched it up that's why he did it that's a perfect one to have if you're into that type of stuff very very and and like he said after i really actually enjoyed it i'm like i don't you that's a statement where all of a sudden you know you got olivier like hey i heard you let you fight

and you want to go and shout out trent frederick trent frederick took a lot of heat and we talked about it with stoff on monday about you know he hasn't been necessarily doing much since he He became a member of the Oilers. Dude, he fought that maniac Olivier, and he took a beat down. But that is so powerful within the room. Like, dude, every guy on that team knows. You got no business fighting him.

His eyes all swollen up. But I think that that shows a lot. I think it shows like he's sick and tired of kind of maybe hearing some of those rumblings. Like, what are you going to do for us here? You know, Stoff mentioned he's got 17, 18, 18 goals seasons. But he showed up. That Olivier is nails. Biz, is it Olivier or Deloree if they're going toe to toe to toe in your mind right now?

Like, they're both pretty much the same, right? Yeah, pretty much the same. Both mutants. I think that Deloree has got better dance moves. I think we saw that in South Florida, at, what's the bar called again? Elwood. But I would definitely say that from a well-rounded player standpoint, Olivier probably holds that title. you know, contributes a little bit more

as far as gameplay. One other thing from that Carolina-Washington game, another unreal performance by Logan Thompson. And the conversation, I feel like this should be more of a conversation than Bader or Celebrini

being on Team Canada. Logan Thompson, if he continues these numbers, he has to be on that team. If he's not on that team, there needs to be some form of fucking investigation done because he is being fucked royally because he's the

best Canadian goalie on the planet over the last 18 months. Not taking any way anything from Bennington. It's hard to judge a guy when he's playing on a team that's had a very tough start. We know what Bennington can do when the chips are on the table. He's got a Stanley Cup dominated that final game at

the four nations. But right now Logan Thompson is a top three goalie for Team Canada. Am I crazy or am I not? No doubt. But I do think no matter what, Biddington starting the first game of the Olympics. Like, you kind of go with what you know. Like, as you said, the bigger the game, the better he plays.

He would have to be, like, he's on the team no matter what. He would have to really be struggling to not get that opener in Italy come February. But after that game, who knows? Remember, they did it with Marty Brodor and then Luongo ended up coming in because Marty wasn't playing as good. I could see it the same exact way. I think Canada has like some type of loyalty with that and you know at the end of the day he did win them that four nations tournament last year and he he was the best player for the team but yeah I agree with you too biz he Logan Thompson should one million percent be on that team and another one that when I was talking about that Colorado and Anaheim game the other name I was going to bring up was Wedgwood because we had him on post game unbelievable breakdown of what he's seeing I don't know if you guys caught that clip, but he should be an analyst when he finished.

He said he's coming from my job. You can fucking take it. He's a Canadian guy. And his numbers this year are incredible. He's played, uh, what was it? 14 games so far this year because Blackwood's been banged up a little bit. He's got a 2.26 goals against average with a 9.13, say, percentage with 10 wins. So he leads the league and wins.

He leads the league and wins. He's obviously one of those guys that's on the outside looking in. But if this continues, man, this guy's been a journey. and he's played for five different teams. I was in Arizona announcing when he was there, beloved, great backup, supportive teammate. And I don't know, man, he's got the pedigree. He's 6-2, doesn't look like he's that big. And he can move, a great skater, great edge work.

And I don't know, man. What do you guys think? I think if you want to be on Team Canada, you just come on TNT and do an interview with Biz and you're going to get his vote. That in the Hall of Fame. That in the Hall of Fame. And I do love with an American. And listen, you guys are the favorites. No doubt in my mind. You're the favorites. But the amount of like goaltending options you have without having like a Connor Hellebuck, that makes me happy. That makes me happy. And listen, it didn't do us any good in the warm up tournament last February, Four Nations. But I just like that you're throwing out names left and right. And showed out Scott Wedgwood, who signed a one-year extension. 2.5 million with Colorado.

Good for him. And another big contract signing, Shane Pinto, the Pinto Parley, four-year extension with the Ottawa Senators. Ottawa's in the news everywhere, right? Because Brady and Matthew Kachuk started a podcast, wing men, correct, boys? Yes, sir.

If those two guys with their personalities and if they go into that and they're really slinging it, like I saw the first episode clip I saw, they're just, which is so true. They're mentioning like they have to go to three to one point system in the NHL. I think it was Matthew saying if he could change one thing. It would three for a regulation win,

two for an overtime win, one for the overtime shootout loss. I love that. I think it separates a lot. But if they end up like really being in there being authentic, that's going to be musseless and awesome. It's going to be a monster. It's going to be a monster. And did you not say that the league currently,

like 28% of games? are heading to overtime was that something you said with it was something i don't know if it was 22% or 28% but that was as of last week yeah like the odds of going into o t it's and i do think like even even tuesday night edmonton philly or was that wednesday night um that was wednesday yeah was wednesday sorry so philly philly like they score the what would be the game winning goal connecting with a beautiful tip tip it was offside luckily the oilers got real lucky I got a leg, bud. I know.

And what's funny is Roscovich did a great job of drag in the leg when he buries his second straight overtime winner. So, but when Philly won the face off, there was 25 seconds or 30 seconds went back on the clock once the goal got taken back. They just played catch, you know, D to D in the neutral zone. And it's one of those things like a lot of teams are like, let's just get a point.

And when you're playing another conference too, it's kind of even more evident. Like I don't care what happens with the extra point for these guys. but let's just make sure we get a point. I think that happens a lot more often than we think. Like, you know, you got five minutes left in the third, guys, let's get the point, right? And I don't love that as a viewer. Now, overtime can be very entertaining.

But if it's 3-2-1, like Matthew Kachuk's talking about, I'd be all in for that, all in for that. And then you see the truly great teams that are winning in regulation more often. But back to Pinto, I love this deal. I mean, I think that this guy, like, after we had him on, I became a huge fan. His personality, you know, he gives you those, he gives you those courtesy laughs. Any friend of yours is a real true foxhole type buddy if he's giving you courtesy laughs. People that you're hanging out with, it's really hard to get a laugh from them, they can be uncomfortable. They could be uncomfortable.

You know what I'm saying, Keith? Just give me a laugh. I don't care if it was the worst joke of all time. If you give me a little bit of a laugh, I'll pump your tires on chicklets till the end of existence. right yeah 100% the only thing i was shocked about because i know it i've heard that he wants to be a lifer in ottawa he he bleeds bleeds black and red i hear maybe a little gold too but kind of shocked that it was only four years um you know for a guy that wants to be there and you know a guy that's came up through their system like you think there was any conversations

with that busy 100% i think that they wouldn't buck up though i think we all heard eight times eight was the offer and that's as high as they were willing to go on the AV and um to me if I'm a fan though especially if you could end up locking him in longer after this four years is up to know that you have the confidence to say no I'll sign a shorter term deal get 7-5 knowing that you're going to outperform it and get a bigger tag that that is the confidence you don't want the guy being like yeah get me the long term and you know I'm not as confident and I'll just take that money that I'm being offered. So, hey, four years, seven, five, great number.

And by then, like, I think you're going to know where this team's headed. Like, is Brady Kachuk still in the picture, right? Is he still there? And have they taken that next step, which we saw last year. And they've righted the ship this year so far. They had a really rough start, weren't getting the saves that they needed. So horrible goaltending before. Horrible.

Yeah, it was, it was hurting them. So very happy for the Pinto Parley. um yeah that's that's pretty much all i got on that they were up to nothing Tuesday night against dallas robertson tied it up with like 12 minutes to go in the third and then uh rupe hans got the winner it was it was a it was a dominant performance by ronton and who just when that guy's on i mean it's crazy but you're right all at the beginning i think their goal tending was the worst in the league they've kind of figured that out and when you don't have brady in the lineup like you're kind of grinding every night.

Even enough, like, getting ready for games, right? And, like, Biz, your favorite line, which I love dragging them into the fight. Like, if I think of one player in the league that drags his team into the fight, it's Brady Kachuk. So without him, that's a lot to take on, right? And I think that having Pinto locked up, it takes, it takes like a storyline away. And Keith saying he wants to be there, great, great player. Now, it is kind of crazy, like, looking here. last year at 37 points

and 70 games, 21 goals. This year he's 17 games, 14 points, great start. But the most points he's ever had is 37, and he's signed at 7.5. So it's a hell of a time to be an NHL player. I bet a lot of it with Brady being

out, like I guarantee you they've seen in that Walker him step up as a leader. He's probably getting more vocal. Because, you know, when your captain's there and Brady leads by example and with his voice, I would imagine, I I guarantee you that Pinto has stepped up and been that leader and they're like, hey, this is a guy we need around long term.

And good for, yeah, like you said, too, biz, like good for him, you know, betting on himself with a four-year deal. He'll be, what, 29 when that's up. So, you know, you sign a four-year deal. And then he signs a, you know, eight-year, $20 million deal a year. Yeah, that's probably where it's going to be at. Love the classic bet on yourself line from, yeah. It's just slides it right in again.

It's a great line. I mean, and Chuck and Batherson, they're up after the 27-28 season, Cousins Pinto up after 2930 and Stutzel up 2030, 20-1 year. So this is their time, the next few years here.

Like, let's see, because if it doesn't work out and Brady's gone, it will be like if McDavid takes off, right? Like they're completely in one. Identity crisis. Identity crisis. That's a great line, Biz.

I like that. Good job. Good job. Um, Nashville, uh, they're horrible. They're horrible. Zelda farm. Legit, like a very, very bad team. Um, I think that is there a chance that somehow Marsha's show Stamcoast and Saros are not on the team at the end of the year?

Maybe like I, I, I, you, you'd think you try to do that. I don't know, like, how much money can they eat? Like, who's going to, who's going to trade what for those players? But I feel bad for Stammer and Marsha. like their numbers aren't there. The team is losing. It's just, it's, it's, it's gotten ugly quick. Got very, very ugly in Nashville biz.

Yeah, I feel like, especially with where, like, how, how much optimism was in the air. Last year, we're division winners preseason. Yeah, I was so pumped for them. And also, like, with both guys probably have feeling like they got snubbed from their organizations. And, hey, let's go meet up with Ryan O'Reilly. a bunch of Wiley veterans and let's go, you know, create our own thing in Nashville.

And, uh, yeah, it is not worked out. I'm not, I'm not pointing the blame at any of those guys, although fucking Ryan O'Reilly with one of the more critical, uh, interviews of himself I've, I've seen from a national leaguer and I'd expect nothing less from a guy of his

status. He took it back. He kind of said he regretted it. He sounded like a baby, but, classic unreal leader, try to shoulder the blame and, and take a little bit of the, the heat off the other guys.

and that just speaks to the type of guy he is. But I would hope for those guys' sake and the organization, strip it to the ground, strip it up, keep the young prospects that you do have. I think that, you know, trots would probably like a few redos. And, you know, he was an extremely successful coach, probably a Hall of Fame coach. I mean, help lead Ovi to his first Stanley Cup

with the Washington Capitals. But as you find, take it on a new role. It can be difficult sometimes, right? A lot of new things. to learn and you know he hasn't exactly had his best stuff so interested to see if he gets to keep the reins moving forward um and then you know what happens with with coaching there if if maybe they think that that's part of the issue i don't know i don't know where this organization is headed and what changes they are going to make but something needs to change because it's a bit of a dumpster

fire at least to start this year they're lucky they're in a low market you know team because if they were in ottawa toronto it would be a shit show but I think, yeah, I agree with you. They got to strip it to the ground. If I'm Marches, though, I say, can you guys do anything possible to trade me to Colorado? And if I'm Stamcoast, can you do anything possible to trade me to Florida to maybe get your revenge back on the teams that let you go? And also going back to Trots, fourth all time in wins in NHL history. So I would say that he's punched his ticket to the Hall of Fame.

So I think that when you're a Hall of Fame coach, you'll probably get a little bit. bit more leash and leeway as a general manager to figure things out and write the ship. Before we throw it over to Gabrick, if the Rangers scored two goals, they win. There was seven goals scored in the first period

Wednesday night. That was a dumpster fire of a first period. That was crazy. Crazy. And I mean, maybe the Rangers are starting to figure things out. They got 13 goals in the last two games, right? And yeah, dude, Trocheck. I mean Super Mario? One of the goals he got,

Was that Vasilevsky who just completely fell? Well, the thing is he forgot to take his skate guards off. Damn it. Yeah. I mean, we've all been there before. I forgot to say, at riders team made a tournament up in Waterville, New Hampshire, this past weekend. And one of the games, I'm walking around as like the Zamboni's kind of coming off the door,

hasn't shut yet. And the kid on the other team, this team from Maine, this kid came flying, flying to the door, stepped on the ice he had his skate guards on this kid went flying just sliding across the ice so they figure that out and then the ref comes over and says you guys are on the power play um the team came out too early we had not shut the door yet to the zamboni entrance i said no no no no guys like no no no he said nope they're all they're in the penalty box so the kid he came out early with the skate guards on went flying across the ice and caused the team to get a penalty tough break for a seven-year-old right there so vasilevsky's got to be better than that uh we don't

want to see any more of that out of him. But seven goals in first period, if you had the over, that is the greatest thing of all time. You just, Elio would have left the game. That's what he does. When he takes the over and it goes over, he leaves. It doesn't matter if it's 3-3 going OT. See you later.

I won my bet. So we did glance over New Jersey. And there's a few fan bases that start barking where we don't cover the teams that have had success to start the year. They're great. Jack Hughes on Wednesday night against the Blackhawks, you talked about the chances for. chances against analytic stuff i i think he like set an hl record i think they had 17 chances

four and one against what he was on the ice with his line so he was just it was a master class for for jack hughes as he continues to push for that olympic squad i'd pretty see pretty much say he's a lock for that team did have his struggles at the four nations i think we could all admit he didn't look as dominant when it was best on best but i'd like to talk a little bit next pot or the pot after the next week at least. Winnipeg hasn't gotten enough love as they continue their regular season dominance. Dallas, who we thought maybe

was going to regress a little bit. They continue to push and be a top team the league. And then the other one, Vegas we haven't really talked about much recently. They're quietly just like... It'd be nice to get the thumb on the podcast. Let's get the thumb on. Let's get the thumb on.

He was dodging us a little bit there for a week. I think he kind of. Well, what do you mean? He talked all that smack. And then we dusted them up in the playoffs and Mitch at Vegas and I think he was hurt, he was hurt. All right, well I think he's over it now and we're going to have to get him on so don't think

for those other teams who are feeling neglected we'll make sure to get on some representations some guys to interview and give you guys the double-rister that you deserve. Another team that keeps quietly guys, I got a guest, Seattle and that dickhead buoy. But I think that's

the only, the thumb, Gary. The one thing I You have to bring up Nemick for Jersey, at least because it was last night. We do in the interview as well with Gagher. Yeah, we do. We talk about Gap. But what, I mean, Hattrick, he had also tied up the game, I believe, was at Monday night, late against the islanders. They ended up losing, but he tied it up.

So second overall pick, Pasha had a lot of questions about this guy. And he had his back for a long time. But you're starting to see some nice offense from this kid who, I mean, three goals, including the game winner and OT. in a game that Jersey did dominate Chicago. Good for him. That's pretty cool accomplishment. Only the third hat trick by a defenseman in Devil's History Biz.

You told us that. I didn't not know that. But I think it's time. Who have the other two? I mean, I don't even know the answer. I would guess Scott Niedemeyer. Niedemeyer was my one guess. Probably and I would guess.

No, if it's three players. Danico. Rofalski. Rofalski. Maybe Ratsk. Maybe. Patrick's ridiculous, though. Hey, what's it?

I'd won in college. Not a big deal. Pasha was so on. That's pretty fucking sick. Two defensemen on BU. Who interviewed you after the game? Jack Hughes's mom. Myself and Kevin Schaefer.

In the same game. Had a hat trick in the same game against Yale. That's got to be the only time to be you. No, we won that one. He was like 7-2. Big win for BU right before Thanksgiving. Yeah. And the Hughes brothers' mom was doing some like interview type stuff.

I don't think it was Nesson. I don't remember, but yeah, it was crazy. I found that out later. It was her. Do we mention Spencer Knight as well as a guy who's potentially maybe making his way on to the U.S. Olympic team? He's had an incredible start to the year. And 24 years old, finally coming into his own.

And I didn't realize how many, like, he played World Junior's three times, right? Did he? Was it three? I think, I think. Holy, that's crazy. Crazy. I mean, he was a phenom, though, yeah. He's a 13th overall pick.

Oh, here you go. Oh, my God. Look at Whitie, you look older there than you do now. Fox. That was for Fox, Witt. Is that what that says on her mic? Yeah, Fox, New England, maybe. Yeah, everyone says that I looked so old when I was so young.

And, I mean, God, I don't look great now. I'm not going to lie. The hair was kind of nice there, though. I don't know what, is my hairline that diagonal, though? You look like Henry Blunquist with that diagonal airline. Look at Walter Brown Arena for anyone. to experience a big game at Walter Brown Arena. Biz, that ceiling was so low, this place was a madhouse.

So loud. Now, that game, the students might have been on break during it was right around Thanksgiving, I believe not many people there, but Walter Brown Arena, where I think Northeastern will be playing games as they build a new arena on campus. I'm going to the last game ever at Matthews Arena, December 13th, Northeastern playing BU. The oldest arena in the United States. incredible spot.

Biz is very interested. Pretty amazing. Kevin Schaefer got a hat trick because I'm pretty sure Lynchy peed his bed the night before that game. It falls you. He used his toothbrush. So very dirty stuff.

Come on, Falls. Have a touch of class. Monday night. We got the Montreal Canadiens visiting the Columbus Blue Jackets, one of the craziest atmospheres in the league. You got to catch a game in Columbus if you ever get the chance.

Montreal's had a hell of a start. Columbus looking for some more consistency. I think Fantilli started scoring. a little bit more. So that should be a great game. It is streaming on Prime Video in Canada. Puck drops at 7.30 Eastern. Prime Monday Night Hockey is available free to Prime Members in Canada.

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you're actually nominated and actually got to check it out. But in that video, they asked for a hot take for the season. And I said my hot take was, I think the Montreal Canadians could make the Stanley Cup final. Do you think that is an outrageous hot take? Or do you think that's a fair hot take? The East is so wide open. I don't see it yet.

I think they can win around, maybe get the conference final. I don't know about their goaltending. but I'm not going to hate on your take that much. I like Montreal. I'm into watching this team play. Now, in Columbus, with the cannon going off, I don't know what we're going to get, but not there yet, but not far off,

if that makes any sense. Makes a ton of sense. Shout out Prime. Shout out NHL on Prime. Can't wait to see it. With that, let's go to a guy who has class and was an incredible player and could skate like the goddamn wind.

Do you mind if I mentioned one quick, last thing before we send it off. No, please do. We were able to get an amazing veteran on the show on T&T the other night. Craig Fitzpatrick. I don't know if you caught it. Oh, he's blind, right? The blind hockey player, and he just came out

with a book, and we're going to get him on the podcast to tell his story. He actually never started playing hockey until he was blind, which is absolutely remarkable, and he ended up going over, I think he was in Colorado at the time, and the quietest place on campus was actually the hockey rink.

So he went there to study for an exam, and that's how he initially got connected and fell in love with the game of hockey. So he just released a book. It's called Finding the Puck Leadership Lessons from My Journey Through Blind Hockey. And once again, it's Craig Fitzpatrick and forwarded by NHL Senior Executive Vice President Kim Davis. And also Scotty Bowman's got a core at the top. He goes, a wonderful story. They say hockey is for everyone. And Craig has proved that.

So this is the cover of the book. Amazing. I'm going to send you the link and hopefully that you can, you can send it out. And just an amazing, amazing man. And I look forward to sharing his story with you guys on the pod. And he's a big listener. He loves listening and he's thanked us. I say, hey, listen, I'm like, buddy, you can't, you're a veteran.

Like, I thank you for your service. I'm not taking thanks from you on a veteran's appreciation night. But he was very complimentary in, and, and helping him mentioning how listen to the podcast helps take his mind off stuff and help them through a lot of dark times and mention how happy he was to see RA back because he personally had dealt with some struggles as well throughout his life and found RA's part

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Welcome now to a very special guest. Shout out of Biz. Getting this guy on the pod. Stanley Cup champion played in two different Olympics, scored five goals in an NHL game, and the highest draft pick ever for the Minnesota Wild marrying Gabrick. What's going on? buddy how you doing hey guys hey guys glad to see you guys i mean you guys are on fire i see you all the time

you guys popping up from everywhere so glad that you guys doing okay and and happy that you're having me on well my apologies for my face popping up on your feed maybe not so much these guys but but me but the reason uh i reached out to you is i saw recently that wayne traveled over there and then you guys did some i don't know exactly what you guys did together you could probably better explain it. So obviously it's an honor to get you on. It's about time. But what were you guys doing in Slovakia? Well, there was this one bank was celebrating 200 years and they invited him and another, I think, former prime minister of Finland. So he had a, like a speech and we had dinner together with a bunch of people. And then we got talking and he said, hey, let's let's have

let's have a drink at the bar we stayed at the same hotel and then he asked me to go for breakfast with him and we just got to hang out for a couple days so it was awesome and you know I love the guy and you guys are on TNT together so

watch your panel and you guys just kick in some ass so yeah it was great a couple days with him and what a guy I mean he can just ask him a question and he just gets going and telling all the stories so it was awesome Isn't it insane how he can just remember everything?

He remembers people's names. When he's telling a story, it makes me feel like such an idiot when I'm telling a story because I don't remember half the details. And he remembers goals, assist, and the guy had 9 million points. Like, it's incredible his memory. Yeah, he was, he told me he almost remembers every game and every goal he scored. And, yeah, it's unbelievable. So, you know, you guys keep him young.

And he loves it. He was praising you guys. and he just enjoys to be around young people and just talk about hockey and stories and everything so he just loves it. Was that your first time being able to spend like quality time with him and really getting to hang out and was he someone that you looked up to

and idolized growing up when you were playing overseas? I think I met him once in New York but when I was playing there but he just came around, you know, shook hands but that was pretty much it and now we get to hang out and yeah, I mean, you know, like, He was a legend. He was everybody's idol. And I missed him by one year, which is, it would be cool to play against him, but I missed him. He finished 99. I started in 2000, so too bad, but glad that I met him.

I met him, and it was kind of cool. He texted me the other day how the trip went I went to Minnesota, and he asked me, and then it was cool to hear from him. So it's cool that we can keep in touch and hopefully see him. him around again. I'm glad we got you on right now because I think it was just yesterday. Slovakia dropped their Olympic uniforms. Those are unreal? And I was wondering, are you going to have, will you be at the Olympic Games? I know you do a podcast or media over there. If you have anything to do with the team, maybe it seems like a guy like you, I'd want to bring in at least part of the staff, but I didn't know your plans for Italy. I'm going to, I might tell you guys, if we do this podcast maybe a couple weeks from now, I might tell you more, but I can't now, but maybe

We can cut this, whatever. No, no, we'll leave the mystery up to everybody. You could just drop a little teaser. I just, you know, I'm in touch with those guys. Murshetan is, we've had him on a few times in podcasts. I see him around. He's a head of Slovakian hockey, but I'm not really involved. You know, maybe eventually I'm not really into coaching or managing.

Maybe I would, down the role, maybe if the kids grow up, maybe work with the guys to on some sort of a mental level in terms of confidence, you know, how confidence is very important for four players. And, you know, it seems that historically, Slovakia seem to struggle with confidence in all the sports, pretty much, as hockey especially. You guys kind of have it in your DNA, whether it's American or Canadian guys. You know, you go play against teams like that, and you just kind of, you know, intimidated by the leaf under Jersey or U.S. USA logo. So you guys have it in your

DNA. And I think, you know, Slovakian athletes and especially hockey players, I think, missed that extra juice of confidence and maybe down road work on now with the guys. Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty cool. I feel like at least in recent world juniors, it's getting better and better. And I know you're one of the, I mean, are you the highest drafted Slovakian player ever? I would, I would, I would. No? No, Slavkovsky and Nemitz beat me by one year. It was number one and number two.

They went, I think, 2000, I don't know, a couple years ago or three years ago. So, yeah, those guys went high and good for them. I mean, it was, you know, I was number three. It's been a while and they, yeah, they got up to one and two. Good time, and two, Nemitz just had his first career hatchet. Pretty crazy. I didn't realize, for the devil's history, for it to only be the third hat trick by a defenseman in the history of the organization.

I was shocked to see that, but good for him. And who would you, would it be Chara be considered, maybe the greatest, like the goat of Slovakian hockey? Is that a fair assessment? Like, who would you put up there as far as the top dog? Well, I mean, you have, you know, Peter Stasney, obviously a long time ago, but Stan Mikita was Slovakian, too, then he, I think immigrated. But, but, you know, in New Era, I think, you know, for sure, Marion Hossa and, and, and

you know Zden Ocara it was just introducing Hockey Hall of Fame and you know you have guys like Ziggy Palfi

and people don't talk about it much but I never seen bigger talent in my life you know in terms of scale and in terms of

just put on skates and and you know do what he did best I mean he could just score from anywhere and the vision

he had it was unbelievable I played with Ziggy when he stopped playing was he was so silky you're right his vision was unbelievably he'd find guys anywhere he wasn't looking he'd find you and then hoarder truck ran him over in Nashville he's like I'm good I'm all set with playing in this league I'm done playing and and his attitude was hilarious too like he

cared but the attitude was like I really don't care kind of like cooture off a little yes yes but you guys joke back home about how he just was like ah fuck and I shut it down he had so many stories that he's a legend in terms of just all the stories he's had and he could just pick up brand new skates or brand new hockey so he would just cut it you know we didn't have to put a tape on it and just go out and be unbelievable and at the end of the game he would just have like this little spot of sweat you know just uh just you know if you see him you wouldn't give him a five bucks you know what i mean like if you see him in the alley or something like you know he's you know like this you know never you know didn't

even, I don't think he even came too close to weight room. And then he was just pure talent and what an unbelievable guy too. So, you know, I see him here and there and he still runs. You know, he's still, he's in good shape. And he's still going on the eyes and plays beer league. So he just enjoys hockey and he was such a great talent. And I was fortunate to play with him in Vancouver and Olympics. He meant Joseph Stumple.

so yeah it was it was a it was a treat um so i remember for you personally like first time i ever played against you was my rookie year in minnesota and your speed was was your ultimate weapon i mean it's all anyone talked about and i got to know as a young kid like was it always there we're playing a lot of soccer because people still talk about your speed it's honestly like pavill beret was like just it was insane and i didn't know what kind of created that for you as a young kid or a teenager. I was always one of the faster kids and we had a great coach. I think everybody went through, through him in terms of skating and everything. And he really gave us basics, obviously not like now that there are skill coaches. You do some sort of edge work. Like I wouldn't

be able to do anything like these guys do these days. But yeah, you know, I was always a good skater. But then when I was 16, 17, I started putting a little weight on, did some exercises in a gym, and did a lot of plyometrics. I worked on my skating as I knew that coming to NHL, it's all about speed, not much time out there. So I really tried to work on that and worked in my favor, obviously. Maybe because of that, I've had a lot of issues with my groins and hips and stuff. Maybe that was some sort of a, you know, I had to pay for that with the speed I had. But, you know, it really, it was, my legs were moneymakers, so let's put it that way. And, yeah, it was great to, you know, now these days, like, I wasn't shifty like you have McDavid or McKinney now.

I was just straight up, get the puck to me. And when somebody was chasing me on breakway, that was my. best chance to score. I couldn't put shit in the net on the shootout. When the shootout started, I, because you start thinking, you know, started thinking, what am I going to do? You have something in your head. And then come,

coming between the circles, I totally changed my mind and then fucked it up. So it was, another all-time Marion Gabrik's story. I don't know if you remember when, on the Oilers had to be like 2012-ish. You dusted us. You're on the Rangers. You guys crushed

us. You had a couple goals. And Jason Strudwick was chasing you on a breakway. He's like, I could have chased him to China. I wouldn't have caught him. You just, you buried it, the sound one up. I just, I'll never forget him talking about. He's like, the one guy look up at Gavrick. Oh, no.

Don't let him get behind you. I just thought of it. Looking at Yang, I remember, do you remember, um, you remember? He sent it to them this morning. Can we throw it in there? I don't think we can. Keith, describe the play. So I had heard great things about Gabby.

He was an unbelievable guy, and he hadn't scored in a few games, so I just wanted to give him one. No, I was standing behind the net, and I must not assaw you, and I tried to pass it out the right side, and flipped off the tip of my stick, and went right to Gabby, who probably had 40 goals at that point, and it just tucks it in on Smitty. And Smitty just looks back at me, like, are you serious?

It couldn't have been more embarrassing. Biz, I know. Wait, so it's the worst giveaway I've ever seen. best. You sunk yourself? I must have thought I was on his team. From behind, he had a puck behind it and looks up, obviously, you know, a great puck mover and everything had everything planned out. But then he hid the tip of the blade and straight to me, I was shocked.

I was like, what am I going to do? I was so surprised. So I got a shot off. I didn't score the first one by the rebound. I got it. And I think it was my, might be my, like, 300 goal or something. I remember we had a good party. We had a party afterwards.

And I think Skazdale somewhere had team dinner. I took the guys out. And I think it was one of the goals that really counted, I guess. Yeah, you should have invited me for that dinner. Sorry about that. Yeah, and said that if it happened nowadays, he'd be getting investigated by the, like, the FBI for shaving points. Yeah, it was so bad. You should have taken a talk like Biddington did for Ovi, you know?

Yeah, I thought I was going to get invited to your dinner. Yeah, yeah, extra bucks. That is so good. Usually when we get guys of your status on, we kind of start from the beginning. We talked about how you learn how to skate, and that was one of your best attributes. But what attracted you to hockey, and at what age did you put on the blades? Like, did your father play? Like, what got you hooked on hockey?

My brother used to play. He's nine years old. He played, like, Crowley here for, uh, for, home team to Clotrentian I just followed him and he was kind of my first idol

and then I remember going to the games and you know wooden sticks and everything and I remember when somebody broke a stick during the game in not on a blade

but in the shaft I remember running down to the penalty box because the referees always put it put the broken stick on the penalty box and my dad

used to glue it for me and then I played outside and even on the edge with those sticks so I remember of those days and yeah he was kind of my first title and and uh you know kind of took up from there so you know i had a great support from him down the road uh my parents and and uh those are good times remember we were talking to uh chara boys and he used to talk about how he would have

the pouch in it in his pants and he would he would bring his own puck because resources were were really at a minimum back then and i'm sure you felt the same effect you just said you used to your father used to get the old broken sticks and taping together so it seemed like it was like almost hard to come by resources in order to keep accelerating the game over there. Yeah, we, you know, to get a gear and everything, we didn't skate up until I think the third grade, which was what, you were nine years old or something, you, you just had skates on and gloves. And then after that, we kind of inherited the gear from, you know, sixth graders to fifth graders and go and so on, so on from junior to, to a younger team. And same with sticks. Like the, the sticks were kind of

circulating and if if a guy kind of put his on a professional team he put a skate away he put the stick away and it was not in great shape then they moved it down to to lower categories and that's how we got that's how we got you know the gear and stuff and I remember might have been I don't know knife grade or something like that my dad bought me my first pair of skis it was a Bauer 4,000 as you guys probably remember with Black Blaze and I got he got me size I think I don't think now I would have played in that side was so big and I used to crush like the newspaper you know and and and some sort of foam or something I stuck it in a toll and so they would fail it they were huge in this case but lasted three four years or something like that so that's how we went about a business then any parent out there base it's out there like getting their kids like $1,200. It's just crazy to think that it doesn't really matter.

It's like if you're good enough, you're going to fucking make it work. And that's incredible. Because you were probably like, all right, these will fit me on them 15 or 17. My first, my first game in the show, I could have probably one of them.

Oh, my. Hey, do you feel like in some cases, guys have said they used to use those big skates growing up where more blade on the ice maybe help them develop their stride? did you find that that was kind of like almost like speed skating essentially i don't know i mean the effort there wasn't a reason i got them i just got them for like to to uh last longer but uh it might have been but it was kind of subconsciously it wasn't like meant to you know for my parents to do that but you know the you know the the stuff was expensive and and we really uh

we were grateful even for that stuff i mean z z chara can tell you about all his stories about the gear that wouldn't fit him. I mean, he was, you know, 20 feet tall and everything. So it was really, really hard for him to get the gear inherited from his predecessors because there was nobody like him, right? So, but, you know, nowadays the kids have it, have it all. Like they, sometimes I feel that they don't appreciate it. You know, when I have a hockey school and I always tell the kids,

use the sticks only with the pug. I don't want to see anybody banging the stick against the glass, against the board, or you get frustrated against the ice because that costs $300 or whatever dollars, you know. And then it's just, you know, I just try to, you know, tell them to really appreciate and be grateful because we didn't have those. We didn't have that when we're growing up. Is it more so like the Federation is paying for the stuff for the kids nowadays or just families have more money and, you know, can spend the money on the hockey equipment.

Well, hockey is expensive sport, obviously. I mean, there is some support. I don't know to what extent, but it's mostly on the parents, you know, like, you know, the kids grow fast and, you know, you have to buy them skates every year pretty much or whatever. And it is expensive sport, and they are, I'm trying to support some kids too. And then they are, you know, even, I don't know, to the extent, Federation helps out, But, you know, it's expensive sport.

And, you know, if you want to have individual skill practices with coaches, it's not cheap. And you guys know that for sure. I was just going to ask, what was your childhood like? I mean, you would play hockey in the winters. Was it something that you became addicted to where you were still able to get on the ice in the summertime? Did you gravitate towards other sports? And, like, just like, you know, you mentioned you had an older brother.

Like, what were you doing in your adolescent years for fun, hobbies and all? that type of stuff. Well, I mean, you came from school, you threw the backpack in a core and went outside, whatever. You played, you played, you know, soccer or you went out to play street hockey. We always did that, like, every day pretty much. And we just spend, you know, the whole day outside if we could. So, you know, nowadays, like, it's not the same. But, you know, we were, we were playing we had a team because I went to school

from the fifth grade on with my teammates so it was like a hockey we went to the same school to the same class and we played there were my teammates as well and we were playing

handball I don't know you guys you guys don't have it there but it's pretty big in Europe we played a handball and I was goalie and that was the hard sport but like you know

we play all kinds of different sports so that was important and the ice uh we couldn't you know we were happy that we could go in the ice uh at 16 a morning um you know couple two three times a week and and uh the ice uh the ice time wasn't much so we just try to take the better best of it and you know winter you know on the parking lot parents came out and sprayed the water uh you know on the street we were playing hockey uh on the street pretty much with the skis so uh yeah it was uh the ice time was hard to come

by those days. I mean, you started playing in the professional league in Slovakia when you were 16 and right before that, like, was there any thought of you going over to play major junior? I know some guys were doing that then.

It wasn't as common as it is now, but over you kind of like looking forward to and dreaming of playing in the Slovakian league at a young age and willing to play there until you could get to the NHL. Yeah, I was actually, I was drafted by Beikomo Ledrakar. Yeah.

So I probably still have the jersey somewhere with a big pirate ship or whatever was it. But I had a chance to play pro and, you know, we're talking about that if I play, if I play in ice like it would be better for me to get used to men's hockey, you know, on the ice and also off the ice, which was very important to get used to kind of like to, you know, grow up quicker or mature quicker. and that was the case and we had a good team it wasn't always easy to play with men and especially those times you know like imagine young guy

taking 35 year old spot you can imagine how it got sometimes in the locker rooms but but you know it kind of I grew a thicker skin from those experiences and help me a big time

come in to play in a show. I'll go back just to that. Like, you're saying, like, you took an older guy's spot. Were the other guys in the locker room also resentful? Or was it just mainly that, that guy's spot that you took? And is that what made it such a difficult transition? Well, not just that guy, but there were a few guys that, you know, made it really difficult for a young guy, you know, some certain things that would not fly one bit in these days. In this day, uh, in this day, uh, Like initiation type stuff? Not just that, but overall, like, you know, you go on a practice and just you get crash tag like from behind and into the boards and, you know, just, you know, go and two-handed around your ankles and stuff like that. And it wasn't easy, but that eventually when they found that I became good, I was helping team to score so I created some sort of respect by playing and like kind of not I stood up sometimes

for myself so they were like okay maybe we should kind of you know took it down a notch and and a lot of times coaches look the other way because that's what it was seeing all the guys kind of they were with them in terms of they're not like supporting what they're doing but like they just looked away a lot of times. And it was a good, great teaching lesson down the road, but it wouldn't fly today. I can tell you that much. Did you know that that first year you would make the Minnesota Wild? And I'd love to hear. I mean, that's kind of a, you experienced something so new, right? Like, hockey's back in Minneapolis. It's an incredible market. Like, they deserve to have a little bit more success than they've had. But when you went into that camp, was it,

where you kind of told, hey, listen, you're on the team? Or we're not sure yet? and I didn't know how you approached that first camp because it's just, even then, it was way more uncommon than it is now for an 18-year-old to play his rookie season, right after being drafted. It was, I was fortunate that it was expansion team. So, you know, you had five, six guys

that made the team 100%. And then the other guys were fighting on it. So nobody, we didn't have any superstars. We didn't have any guys that were like, okay, they had it made. So it was pretty much like, everybody's starting from scratch and that was that was advantage i don't know how it would work if i would become if i would come to let's say team like i don't know la or detroit like we couldn't even

you know talk about it but um it was uh i really really the guys kind of were good to me and they helped me around and they helped me out and then i was fortunate also i had like we had like maybe seven or eight czechoslovakians guys from check and slovakia so that that helped my transition it was better but I was confident that I could make the team and obviously Jacques Laner sat me down and you know I wasn't always

try to hang around our blue line I was you know trying to score goals and everything but he sat me down he said Gabby listen you cannot play like this you know so with this perj accent and and I had to take care of defensive stuff and then offensively do whatever you want but like and um that helped me out a lot

and i you know jac to this day i say he was the best coach we i've ever had and and um you know he was uh and he kind of knew too if if i made a mistake or something i didn't uh wasn't responsible in some situations you know there's a power play and you're sitting on a bench and that was kind of a punishment that that he uh he knew how to uh throw it out there for the guys Their first year, the leading score had 39 points. He had 30s. Imagine an NHL leading score of a team have 39. I know scoring

was down back then, but my God. Yeah, it was. That must have been a long year. Like, when you came over here, were you worried all, because I don't think people realize how big of a difference. You've played on big ice your whole career coming up to here, and then skating is your best asset. Like, were you

worried that it might not translate to the NHL game? I don't know. I think I think the smaller surface was better for me in terms of, you get, you get, if you make, if you, if you, if you beat somebody one and one, you, you, there is a little, you, you can have a chance right away, whether it's from the boards, you know, you know, it's shorter distance from the boards to the goal and, and I think it creates, if you can, can make, can beat the guy one and one, you have a chance pretty much, a lot of times. And I really worked on my shot in terms of Joe Sack. I was kind of, I was looking up to him in terms of his quick wrist shot because I knew that coming here, you don't have time for Slapshot. You don't have time to get ready for a shot. You always, that's what I try to work on, my wrist shot,

and always almost try to shoot when it surprises me. You know what I mean? And then if sort of I get surprised by a shot, everybody else will. And it was, I think, you know, working on my shot was the best thing I could ever done because, you know, you don't have time to get ready for anything pretty much. Right. I was just going to back it up a little bit. I would assume that the biggest moment of your playing career was probably getting to represent

your country at the World Juniors in two years. where were your world juniors and like what was that experience like getting to represent your country at such a high level at that age that you were at? Yeah, I remember I was 16 and it was in Winnipeg and Brandon in 98-99, I remember. 16. And we played

Canada, our first game we beat Czech 3-1 and as a 16-year-old I happened to score two goals so I was like, wow, and I remember Jim McKinney Jim, his name is right? Yep. Yeah. So he was interviewing me after the game.

It was the first time I met him, a little short guy, and he was interviewing me. Bob McKenzie. Oh, Bob McKenzie. Oh, Bob. I thought you met Jim McKenzie, the one that's got the huge hammer. He played for the Winnipeg Jets because you said Winnipeg, so that's why. No, no, no.

Bob McKinsey. So he was interviewing me after. Yeah, Bob. He's probably got a big rope, too, though. So, and then we played, we played Canada. and I remember we tied them zero zero. Rungo in that, you had Cibon Gagne, you had Robin Regier,

you had a Daniel Tchaekach who was unbelievable. Then I remember, and also you had a Brandon Reed. Remember that little guy, Brandon Reed, I think, was on that team? But there was one guy, Rico Fada. He could fly. He was unbelievable. He was like he was fly and he was crazy.

And Russians, they have half, you know, Genov, they have, he was, I think, MVP of that tournament. But we end up, we end up beating Sweden in a bronze medal game. We get bronze medal. So it was huge in Slovakia. For Slovakia, it was, I think, first ever medal for the country in hockey. So, yeah, that was unbelievable. That was your, at that point, probably the greatest achievement of your career, right? Yeah, for sure.

That's unreal. And then were you expected to go as high as you were? Like, did you attend the draft? Yeah, I was at the draft, and, you know, I knew New York Islanders were picking number one, and they had me, they flew me over to look at the facility, you know, like all the medicals and everything. So I thought I'm going to go up there, but then you get into the draft and you hear rumors. They made that big trade. So obviously they went to pick Rigdi Pietro, and then heater, then he went.

Danny hit you went to Atlanta and I went third to Minnesota and he was in Calgary and I remember after going to Cowboys but obviously I was 18 I didn't drink and I remember Heater was just parting everybody over him on the dance floor so he was a that's when bottle service was invented at that draft yeah when Heater went into Cowboys yeah most points from that draft you have the most points from that draft really okay wow it's cool That's unreal. It is pretty sick. That was pretty good drafts, I think.

Yeah, you had Clislow and number four. Raffiris. Raffiris. Yes. Scotty Hartnell. Scotty Hartnell went number six. Yeah. There was somebody mid-draft who was, oh, Brooks Orpick.

A couple Stanley Cups. He was a mid-round pick. So after that first year of Minnesota, it seems like that second year is where you really hit your stride. I think you ended up putting up back-to-back-to-back 30-go seasons year two and three. So, like, did you just feel like a different guy coming in your second year? You felt like a vet and things were just clicking a lot easier? Yeah, I mean, yeah, and I think I remember, I think, that second or third year,

Andrew Burnett, I love the guy, like, he's still keeping touch. He's unbelievable. He pulled me in. I think we had a New Year's Eve party. And he pulled me in and he kind of told me like to kind of come back down to the earth pretty much to kind of like you know you're good you're gonna be good but just i think uh you you kind of flying up high you know too high in terms of you know maybe little cockiness or ego or something like that and i remember that to this day that he sat me down and talked to me you know

not giving me sure or anything but just really you know talk to me as as a friend as somebody that really um um wanting me to do good and and uh so that stuck with me and i just kind of came down, you know, fall down on the earth. And just from then, I think it helped me to really be grateful and just try to play the better than I can and try to be the best teammates that I can. So I remember Tuesday, I'm thankful for that. What a difference, like you said, the guys,

the way that the guys treated you when you were 16 years old. And then, you know, Andrew Brunette, who I had him in Florida too, a great leader in having a guy like that say that to you and everyone I've asked that I've talked to asking about you to saying that we were going to have you on all they said was he was the best teammate told you how it was you know just like a guy that was there for you so it's cool to see that you brought it to the way that Bruno did and just you know trying to help people out right because at the end of the day you just want to help people out and help them get better

no for sure I mean you know like I didn't want um the guys that that, you know, to go through what I went through in some of the situation. And then I just always treat young guys. You know, I never bullied anyone or never, you know, be, you know, speaking down to anybody. I try to treat everybody the same way. And, you know, because I've experienced when I was younger that I was always young, I never, I was never older guy, you know what I mean? So when I was an older guy, I just tried to treat everybody the same way.

You said it was in January in your second year where he pulled you aside. When he said something to you originally, were you like, were you kind of unaware of it? Were you pushing back at the start? And then he kind of made you like snap out of it? Or were you kind of like, yeah, you're right? Like were you, and also were you cruising around like a fancy car? Like what type of things were you doing that was maybe a little bit too cocky? You know, obviously caught me by surprise that I was like shy because, you know, you don't look in a mirror.

and then see what you really do. You know, other people see it. And, yeah, I was shocked, but then I didn't really say anything back to him or, no, you're wrong or anything. I kind of took it to the heart. And, yeah, it was kind of, it was, maybe I was doing, I didn't even realize it. It was just maybe, I don't know, I was just not, do it, did whatever I wanted in terms of, I don't know, maybe in practices I didn't practice hard enough or I don't know I can't tell you really those things but I kind of I kind of took it to the heart and just try to try to be grateful and and go about my

business so that third year in Minnesota though it was pretty pretty crazy run like you guys went to the conference finals and I it was Colorado right in the first round that you guys beat beaten game seven and took down Vancouver and I can't imagine that city then like they've been looking for for a trip to the conference finals since and it must have been electric and going into the playoffs like you guys had big dreams but I'm guessing going against Colorado was like the expectations maybe weren't as high as as you guys had imagined they'd be right yeah it was it was unbelievable like we're down 3-1 against Colorado and I remember we had practice in Colorado

before game five and we were shit like you could see that the guys were just like I already gave up you know and then I remember I think Reiser like Ricebro came down and said something but it was again like Andrew

Burnett kind of you know say hey guys like you gotta wake the fuck up who knows where you're going to play against these type of players against this type of situation like you know like you got a you got to get up and just enjoy it and but like put really working and not give up like that and that was a turning point and and we end up you know bidding in seven games and bruno was the

guy in game seven who scored who pretty much put patrick roy into retirement home uh into retirement bad home but he's going to love hearing that yeah that was his last game he's going Yeah, it was his last game, and I remember that. But, yeah, nobody expected it. I mean, you play against Sackick, Forsberg, you know, Roblick, you know, Adam Foote, you know, Hey Duke and everybody. So everybody was shot, you know, and Patty were riding that. And then, you know, seven games, and it was unbelievable.

That was coming back from the series to many, the fans were greeting us at the airport. And I remember on a driveway, the kids from the neighborhood were, you know, riding stuff on a driveway with the chocks and everything. It was unbelievable. And then Vancourt, that was crazy, too, like Bertuzi, Nazland. And then same scenario, 3-1 were down and then came back game seven too. And I think it was, I think last game seven was like, we beat them by three or four goals

but you know you had guys like Matt Cook that was the biggest asshole on the eyes that you guys probably know but it was it was fun it was fun in Vancouver always treats you very nice as you know

oh yes oh yes that's why I lived there in the summer now that year was Liquid Duano-Rolson your goalie oh yeah were they doing the were they doing the back oh yeah

I hosted them at Tampa Bay Lightning. I think he was playing for Tampa Bay. Maybe it was the Islanders at the time. But, you know, he was an older guy and they had a rookie party. And I'm like, who is this guy? He had a NBA draft suit on. He was swimming in it. And he might have been the drunkest guy on the planet.

Like, the fucking coma or two, whatever. Like, it was unbelievable. And yeah, they were rotating. Jack was rotating, Mani Fernandez and him. Every game, no matter what, they would. go back and forth? I can't remember if he was every game, but it might have been series to series

but, you know, he was rotating them and that too. It wasn't common back then. Like, you know, you were your number one guy and that was it, but I think if he you know, that was also our goal to our success

for Jacques having doing that and also rotating captaincy. Like who has done that? Like every month we had a different captain. I think, instead of playing Juice Boy, they'd play Captain Boy, shootout under practice, who gets to wear the C for the month. So it was kind of cool to, you know, when they were giving out the captaincy after each month. And then you see the guys that, for example, Brad Brown, like defensemen, you know, couldn't really skate, you know, hardworking guy, really put his heart and soul on the end. and you know my number five number 60 passman sometimes it was out of the lineup but but you could

see on his face when he got that see that that he was the happiest guy in the world and and and really guys admired that to to to see that that he's made progress he was working hard and and it was kind of a reward for for the job you know you could be done for the team and I think for job it was good way in order to not have somebody stable as a captain to talk into his business, you know what I mean? So he spread it out, so he was always the boss, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly, whereas it's like nobody's safe because there's a different captain all the time. But I'm wondering the next year, which was the final year the NHL had before the season was

canceled the following year and the game changed forever, you played games in the Slovakian League. Was that like a contract holdout and you were playing over there? It was a holdout. It was a holdout, yeah, after my 30 years. Wow, it's kind of ballsy. You were playing in that holdout, right? Yeah, because you can play nine games. And then if I were playing 10 games or something,

then I wouldn't be able to sign or something like that. There was some sort of a rule. So I could play nine games and then I was just holding out. And yeah, I mean, you know, those things, you know, like you, you know, try to hold out, try to get a better deal, but at the end of the day, like, didn't do much, you know what I mean? So not only that, but how long, when you ended up signing, how long term was the deal? How many years?

Three, three years. So at least it wasn't a real long one because then that deal got bumped 24% rollback. After the blockout. So, yeah, but then, like, I remember when I signed, I came back and, you could see that Jacques really punished me for that I remember first practice

bag, oh I got bag like no tomorrow oh my god it was oh my God like it was and you could see them him and Mary Trambly talking to each other

and like oh ho ho ho ho ho ho fucking die young you know like yeah so but you know it was a good lesson and obviously

if I could take you back maybe I wouldn't hold out But it was a good lesson. And back then, you really had to work and prove that you were so of the money. Like, it seemed like nowadays they just giving the money to the guys that haven't really proved that they, you know, they, I don't know. It's differently different time and obviously the market is different. so it is what it is but yeah i mean god it's crazy to think too like if you look at i'm trying to look at this team right here when you played the lockout year you had you hosa and paville

demetra playing like that that you had 53 points in 29 games they had to be pretty fun you know obviously everyone wants to be in the nchel we got three superstars playing for your hometown team and and you guys just lit it up yeah there was that was a lot of fun like playing in front of a home crowd and we really had a blast and we there was a window of one month and me and hosa went to sweden for a month and then we came back for playoffs and we ended up losing in semifinal to slova and britishlao where vichnavst was playing and chitan and uh um we ended up losing in semifinal to bradislava where vichnav was playing and chitan and uh and uh it was a bummer we lost, but yeah, it was a fun year. I mean, obviously you would want to play in NHO, but that was a treat to come back and play for hometown. When did you first deal with like your, a groin injury? Like, when did it kind of start for you? Because it was like playing against you, you know, if you were out of the lineup occasionally, it was like, thank God as a defenseman.

But I know it ended up, you know, it was something that you battled your entire career. Like, did that start in Minnesota? Was it later? And what was like? And what was like? the first kind of thing that happened, I guess. Yeah, it was in Minnesota. I can remember which year was it, but yeah, just a little growing pole and then, and then, you know, try to treat it, whatever. Then came back, get re-injured, and it was just like, you know, it was just like snowball effect.

And then it was really mentally tough to be confident because I was scared to put on that, next extra gear you know what I mean that I'm gonna I'm gonna pull something again and then you know I had surgeries and then and then kind of when I left mini wasn't I wanted to stay in mini but but then you know they they went different routes and I signed in New York and then after surgeries a couple of hip surgery got it got better and then I got that the extra gear back and and but it wasn't it wasn't pleasant times to be out of lineup and with a groin injury, you know, I mean, so it wasn't,

it wasn't easy, but I guess that was the thing with me having the stride I had, and that was some sort of a, you had, I had to pay some sort of a day for it in terms of. Yeah, your stride was so long. That was the thing. Like, that's where the speed came from, but I, I, and then I'm guessing that that led to the hip stuff. It all goes back to probably the groin. But how many surgeries did you end up having? Overall, like 14, I think, overall. Hot. But then hips and, like, sports hernia, two each in terms of, like, the skating stuff,

strollers and stuff too. But then, like, the, yeah, the hips and the veil, both of them, and then hernia. So, yeah, it was, it was, it was, uh, was it wasn't, wasn't. and easy but you know when I got back I always enjoyed playing and when I get really healthy you know that you could

that I could turn that extra gear that was the best thing last thing I was going to talk about from Minnesota days I had seven goals in my NHL career you had five in one game now that's probably a very short list of guys who played in the NHL who had five how many guys would you think I looked it up

in one game I was just going to look it up I was going to say 10 12 less and more than less 20 7 more more more more than 20 yep holy there's more than 20 guys with five goals in a game I mean 48 48

48 Joe Malone is the leader with five sweet Joe Malone he had five yeah five five goal games what year is that Joe Malone played 1917 to 1924 okay fair enough He's got 13 records, though. Did you do anything different that game?

Did you feel different going in? No empty netters, too, in that game. I'm going to that YouTube right now. I've got to rewatch these. The one that he scored batted out of the air was sick. Yeah, it was, I don't know. When somebody asked me this question, I think I was in some sort of a zone

or the stars were lying a certain way. And I could literally score seven, like I had so many chances. And then on five and three afterwards, the guys were setting me up and open net. Steer Valley Kid was in net after Hen and got pulled. And I broke my stick on empty netter, just stuff like that. Like, and it was just amazing night that everybody, everything worked in my favor. And then great setup from the guys, obviously. Powell Demetra's assisted, I think, on three of them, you know.

and and yeah Chris Drury assisted on the fifth one when he when he coughed it up on their blue line so so but then even I fanned on a last shot against Hank and I tried to go a block and it ended up going a five hole I totally fan on a shot

and it went in so I guess like I said I was in some sort of a zone or stars were lined yeah it was it was crazy no wonder they fucking traded for you yeah so how you're going to say that's what I was going to say that had to have been the reason why because I know how Dolan is too and it's like you see that you're like okay I need that guy if he's

yeah who's that shiny toy yeah exactly yeah about Dolan I remember they they sign me as a free agent for I think it was five years 42 or 43 million something like that and we had like they have the casino night and uh I don't know it was maybe in December or I don't know so I got in and and then you know Dolan attacked the Dolan Glaceta was there and we shook hands with Dolan and he said, yeah, so are you on a power play? I was like, you're just signed me

for five years, 42 million and you're asking me if I'm on a powerplay, like so that's when you know you're rich. So that was hilarious. I was talking to, I came to Slats. I was like, hey Slats, this guy, like, he has no fucking idea who I am or something. You just, you know, so he'll start laughing.

I don't know, he knows, he knows, he knows with this, you know, here, this cigar, he knows. The way it was hilarious. Hey, I'm watching these highlights. I kind of forgot about Pierre Mark Bouchard was pretty sick. That guy was silky with the puck. He was nice. Just some of these players in the wild, I kind of forgot about.

But this was electric being at home, too, this game. And Burns v. too. Burns v. He played just played 15-hundred game. And I don't know if you guys know, but he was drafted as a forward for a rounder and Jacques turned him into defense then and 1500 games later future Hall of Failure probably you know the guy is a beast so he is a fun die too so yeah we had a we had the group yeah was he a beast then was he was he a pet detective back then was he buying all the snakes already oh yeah oh yeah we had a we had a one time we had like a super bowl party at his house and

he had all the snakes so we came down to his terrarium whatever so we're watching and the wives were there too and i i got i got down kind of my name knees and I grabbed a couple of eyes by by their ankles you know they're like I was losing it so yeah he he put on a show with like a little rat there and then python just kind of no I hate snakes but I'm a snake I'm a snake you remember that video literally little snake one of these comments almost 10 years later I'll still never forget this night I was sitting 10 rows up on his breakaway for the fifth goal. The video doesn't do it justice. The place was so

fucking loud. That is and it was right before Christmas too. You know those games guys? Oh yeah. The Christmas crowds. Like it's that's a great memory. That's the type of game where you're like if I don't show up the next three, nobody's going to say shit to me. I remember the next day, next game we played

against Jersey or something. I think we lost and I had like one assist and obviously I got him shit after you know he scored five goals and you got to keep it up you know what i mean so can't please them hey can't please them what i mean yans you got to play in new york like it must have been a a world when you go from minnesota and probably a great place to be introduced to the n hl where you're you're kind of out of the chaos you get to experience on the road

trips but it's a very it's a very chill chill place uh but then you get to the big apple like was it everything as expected you had a huge first year there so like wow how much Yeah, that's, especially after getting that big ticket. It was fun. I mean, like, I say like whoever, everybody should play in New York to get experience of playing in a big apple and live there. And it was amazing, you know, the Madison School Garden and the organization, top nod, you had everything, you come, you know, you have your own plane, you have whatever you wanted,

lobsters on a plane, whatever. you know so it was like i was like holy shit like unbelievable and uh you know we had a great team and a great bunch of guys and and the travel was unbelievable like you were you were at home pretty much uh you know in your own bed uh every night and uh yeah it was fun you know and the msg when you win and you hear that sweet carline song that's nothing better than that you figure playing in new york you'd have somebody who would like help you out but i remember you carrying your christmas down the street on the show yeah on the show i'm like this yeah i'm like no one can just grab it for him yeah it was uh yeah they were following us for the win a classic in philly but it was

like the hb i think it was the first uh time they did it and it was around around the coroner i just i just came there and then put it on my shoulder and went to my partner so it was cool um he was uh yeah and then the city also like tourists didn't really have us practice morning skates you really didn't like morning skates so you kind of

you kind of had to you know be careful because that city can suck you in you know you you don't have a next morning practice you show up at at Madison School at dawn at 4 o'clock so the guy sometimes you know went out a bit

a little too long you know a little bit longer like they should but but you know you have to really be careful in that city because as you know yeah it can suck you in like no tomorrow all of your seasons in new york you had torts and and i imagine there was nights and i believe there there's old uh videos of him like he wanted you blocking shots he wanted everyone blocking shots it's like you're like i'm getting 40 come on but

what was your relationship like with him i'm sure it was kind of up and down based on you being a skill guy it seems like all the skill guys it's it's a great it's great one day and it's a disaster the next. Yeah, he was up and down, but, uh, you know, he played, he played the top guys a lot. Like, um, you know, he just tried to squeeze, uh, you know, the best out of you that he could. And, and we had some situations where, I guess, a lot of guys probably had some situations where, you know, it was almost, I remember we almost had into a fight in, uh, we played, we played a jersey, um, playoffs. And I remember you talked about blocking shot, right? So, I think we're, I don't know, we're down or up to one or something and after second, you know, before second three was over, I went to block a shot and I was in a shooting lane and the shot was going wide and somebody tipped it like five, six feet, you know, it was going wide and somebody tipped it in.

And I remember after during an intermission, I went to see Rammer, you know, he stretched me out, whatever. Torst storms in, and he's just saying, like, fucking, you know, you got to fucking block the shot. I was like, I was in a shooting land. And we're just like this closed. And I remember, like if rapper, my grab wasn't in the training room, I think we would have been like, you know, like fucking, I don't know what would happen. So he kind of like, oh, guys, okay, oh, he's standing in between us and then kind of

got us away. And then I remember walking in the room. And then the room is maybe, I don't know, 100 feet from. the main locker room, the training room and stuff. So I remember guys were looking at me because they could hear every fucking single word who were like yelling at each other. But yeah, it was sometimes it was heated.

But at the same time, I understand you have to have a really, have a really thick skin to play for tours because sometimes, you know, he just tried to push the guy for like to the limits where he just tried to, you know, take, you know, maximum that you can bring from you. So, so that was that was it, yeah. Yeah, if I would imagine you guys had some choice words and some battles. Some unfortunate news, Marion, this morning.

Larry Brooks passed away at 75 years old, Hall of Fame writer. Did you remember any encounters with him and your time with him in New York? Because, you know, he's a giant in the hockey world, and it's very unfortunate that he passed at such a young. age. Yeah, I saw it. I saw it. Yeah, it's, you know, Larry was, he was, he was cool guy. I liked him. Obviously, he was a, he was a nice guy, but then he wasn't really nice guy sometimes when he just asked you different type of questions. I mean, he was a journalist. He was doing his job, but, but at the end of the day, I always got along good with him. And when I was in New York, or even when I was playing for other team, come to New York. New York. He came down. We, you know, we talked after record just how are things going. And, yeah, the hockey world will miss him for sure. Yeah, Jans was saying earlier, he's like, I really got along with him. I never read his stuff. I might have been pissed off if I had read it. But I respected him.

We had him on last year, Biz, remember? I respected that he would, he'd show up. He was in the room, right? He would be writing things about guys, but he had no problem then facing the guys. And I think that's probably a little more difficult than it sounds because guys get pissed off if they read it and he he had balls in terms of like step into guys that he was calling out in the New York Post so yeah what what a giant and he could get torts going that for sure were you there when that happened oh yeah yeah it was oh man it was like you know he was hilarious we're like laughing with the guys after but but uh you know like also about torts I remember um We're practicing 30 times, so it was like 45 minutes from the city, right?

And, you know, 90% of the guys were living in the city. And remember, we're carpooling, and I was going in with Steve M. Inger a lot of times. And Mike Richards, I mean, Brad Richards. And after shitty game, you know, coming down to the rink next day, you know that you're going to get a fucking hour of video. And we're like, oh, you know, like, we're like, holy sure, it's going to be a, you know, it's going to be a shit show. And he used to have, when he was doing his video clips, he used to have like subtitles on the bottom before the clip started. So it was something like this, like number 10,

where the fuck you think you're going? Like me, you know, or all some other guys, like you could just see before the clips started. And the subtitle was there to remind him what's going to happen. And then he just ripped you apart. But at the end of the day, you laugh about it. But it was not very pleasant back then, you know. Like that is unreal.

actually we were talking to Wayne last night the best thing about working with him is when we were watching the game behind the scenes he's just telling you all these old stories and he said that Glenn Sather would do the same thing but they had a chair and they'd make you put a clown wig on and the clown nose and everybody would have to sit in the chair

at some point and they would just get ripped and I'm like did he give it to you? He's like oh yeah one of the most of anyone right you got to keep your leaders accountable and the best players and then it trickled out from there So when I heard that they had a specific chair And you had to sit it on the throne To get ripped every game

Or every practice with the video I was dying Actually Gabby you'll love this last night Because you probably didn't see it They were talking about like testing or whatever And Wayne goes the year I had 92 goals I did seven sit-ups in camp And then the year I had seven goals

I did 125 sit-ups So what does it matter? Yeah, you don't score from the gym No no you don't Gabby, were you ever a part of, uh, any of slats is? Like, he'd come in once a year. And I remember when I first got there, like, we lost like two games or whatever. And someone was like, oh, yeah, just wait. Slats will come in. Then we'll go on like a 10 game heater. And he comes in, fedora, cigar. And you're like, oh, shit. And he just starts ripping. Really?

Everybody ripping. Oh, yeah. He actually did it to us. We went to go see the, uh, the premiere of the entourage movie. We were in the movie theater. It was just us and some of the guys from the Entourage movie sitting in there in L.A. And he went around the movie theater and just lit us up. In part of the actors? Yeah. Oh yeah. And then we went on like a 10 game heater. Yeah. Yeah, he was, yeah, he's done that sometimes.

And he just sat down and a guy's just, what the fuck? Go get drunk or something. I didn't give a shit. Just start fucking play, you know. And yeah, his fucking cigar, he had these little scissors that he always cut a little bit of cigar. He never, I never seen him lit the cigar. Like, he just sucked on it and held these little, like, scissors that he always, like, cut,

cut it away, and then he just, unbelievable. Do you remember what he said to you specifically, Jans? I honestly, I think I had just gotten there, so it wasn't, like, too bad. He probably didn't even know who I was, thank God. But, yeah, some guys got it, and it was like, oh, man. Who got it the worst? I think it was the same thing. It was, like, the big dogs.

I think it was, like, Ryan McDonough, who was, like, the captain. I think he went, like, he challenged the big guys. He wasn't a guy, like, picking on, you know, fourth line guys or six d-man i think he was attacking the big boys like wayne said yeah i remember he was saying like torres was saying giving me shit like um i i think i got a hatchiganist uh islanders and then next day uh we played somebody and after for spirit he just fucking started ripping guys and said fucking this guy fucking scoring against bantam teams you know going against bantam teams do it against some real team oh it was probably the game i gave you

Yeah, yeah, that's the word like, yeah. And then you can't, you're never tired. It's all in your head. You can never be tired. It's all in your head. Fucking after 15 lapers, three times 15 lapers in testing, six times three laps, three miles, three mile run. Yeah.

It's only in your head. Just in your head. That's why everyone in New York has to get hip surgery because of that, because of that drill that he used to do. No shit. Um, were you, were you traded to Columbus or was that a signing? Like, were you shocked? For Brassard, right?

I was traded, actually. I remember I had like 10 teams no trade and not obviously but Columbus was one of those teams that I had to kind of sign a waiver to be traded there but I remember it was before the game against Pittsburgh and my in-laws then it was my girlfriend's parents now in-laws but they were leaving to go back home so usually I take naps from I don't know 1230 or whatever

after lunch I shut it down for two hours And then I stayed up a little longer. And I had no idea, you know, traded line, whatever. I was like, there's no way I'm going to get traded. And all of a sudden I get a phone call. If my in-laws wouldn't be there, I would have been sleeping. But then so I got a phone call from Slavs and he told me that, you know, they were, you know, they want to trade me to to the Columbus and, you know,

give me five minutes or whatever to think about it because I had to sign a thing. and they already had the guy downstairs with the papers. And I was like, okay, you know, so I talked to Bini Prospole. He was in Columbus, talked to him quick and about the team and stuff. And then, you know, I just couldn't come into the room for that Pittsburgh game that to the room where you're not wanted, you know. So I signed it. I went to Columbus and, yeah, that was it.

But if my, if he weren't, if it were for my in-loss, who knows what would have happened down the road. Well, you lost it longer than Jeff Carter. Yeah, yeah, it was a unfortunate kind of time in Columbus. I mean, a great group of guys. But, you know, injuries again, and, yeah, didn't work out very good. But that year, so you traded that year, and then the next season was an Olympic year, And you had played in 06 in Italy and 10 in Vancouver. So the Olympics in Russia, you were injured for that one?

Yeah, it was, yeah, I got sandwiched between, first I had my knee. I was out with MCL for eight weeks or whatever was it. And then I come back, first came fourth shift. It was actually on a goal that I set somebody up. And then fourth shift of the game. And then I got sandwiched by Rinaldo and somebody. else and broke my clavicle and yeah that I missed I missed Olympics and I remember talking to then my girlfriend my wife now that I was going to hang it up like I was like I had enough of this

fucking shit this injuries you know surgeries and all this stuff and I was going to honestly hang it up and and but she was there I know she told me just you know try you love the game just try it and stuff and she was the biggest supporter and and you know six months later i was fucking holding the stanley cup no shit hey you were gonna hang them up oh i was like i was down like it was like i remember john davidson came down he was gm or president then president and he came down i was in the room uh after that i broke my um clavicle and i was like i remember in training i was like ball and i was like fuck i'm like i was so frustrated and sad and i was crying, I remember, and then talking to my wife that I'm done, I'm going to, I was going to hang

it up and then, and I've stayed with it and, and yeah, things, things didn't wrong. And what's crazy is that maybe missing time that year, once the playoffs began when you got to LA, yeah, 14 goals in that run. Four more goals than anyone else in the Kings, you win the cup. It's like, I wonder if not playing the whole season almost helped you, even though it's injuries in rehab, which is a grind, like you had to feel the best of your career throughout that playoff run. Yeah, I saw good.

I don't know. I never thought about it that way, but, yeah, coming, like, coming there, it was amazing. Like, I could feel that when I got there right away, it was a winning team. Like, you know, the guys that had won before in the attitude

and everything. It was just unbelievable. Like, it was just, wow, you know, I played, you know, got to play with Robin Regier which he was the probably hardest

defenseman I've ever played with you know playing eight times back then when I was in Mini played against Calgary eight times

and he was just painting the eyes always on the eyes he was a hard a hard guy to play against and Stolley was there who I kind of knew from playing against him

for a long time even like in junior times he was drafted the same year and yeah all these guys and Copie and brownie and uh it was amazing and and uh the guys swapped me with open arms and they were treated me unbelievable and uh yeah you know fast forward you know first round down three nothing

against that's the craziest part and i remember national team coach from schlovakia was calling me i was i was sitting on a beach with marcel osse he was visiting me and we're down three nothing it was after practice and he called me like so um you know uh you know uh hopefully you're going to come for world champions i was like it's not over like and and the whole rock room the feeling the vibe i got i never felt before that there was no doubt that we can like there was nothing that nobody was down everybody was just like you know we can we can make this work and then you know uh jeff carrie was there mag ritches who has who have done it before in philly and uh you know it was unbelievable and the next thing you know like um you know we we were

winning game seven in San Jose. Yeah, what changed like that? I mean, I witnessed it in Boston once I was done playing, right, with, I think I meant it still playing with Philadelphia and the Bruins that year, and they were even down three nothing in game seven, but I didn't know if anything, if there was a speech or anything. I guess you're saying the entire team was just like, this thing is not done yet. That's all you guys needed to have is the belief. Yeah, the belief.

And then, you know, even like practicing. and everything was just like, the season is not done. You know, you could just feel that, you know, it's about the next game, it's about the next game, got to get ready and, and, you know,

just try to frustrate their big guys. And, you know, we've done it. So, yeah, unbelievable. Did Torts almost prepare you for Daryl Sutter? You know what, Daryl was great. Like, you, the thing is, I love Daryl, but you couldn't see what kind of Daryl you get every day. you know what i mean like if it's grumpy girl or happy girl you know it's always it's always like

he tries to keep you walking on the eggshell you know never never try to get too comfortable like we won a game and next next day we would come in and and uh he would be grumpy face and and uh he would start shooting pucks again against you know at us you know in practice you know like you know when you got on the eyes you circle around he would just fucking shoot pucks at us you know what i mean and just here we go you know but like and then we lose or something then he comes happy so you can never read him what kind of

they're going to get or or what's behind it if it's psychologically he's just try to get it you know somehow into your head or whatever or seem like he always tries to you know so you're ready like walking

on the actuals never get too comfortable and you know worked well I like there obviously You know when I wasn't playing good or something He let me let me have it But that's the way it is What I'm looking at the the playoff bracket from that

Cup team so in all four games you Dusted the Sharks like it was 4-1 in the game six Five-one and then you won in seven against Anaheim And then you were up three one against Chicago and they four game seven so that entire run through the west was a gone oh yeah gone like i remember i remember i think it was we're playing at home we're up three two or some like that and uh um we could have closed that um or in the fourth game but at the end of the game was like seven minutes or i know, five minutes left.

And it was, I think, tied game. And Patrick can't hit the puck. And I was just kind of following him around in our zone. And I remember he was my guy and he scored a goal. And I remember after that, it was 3-3, series of 3-3. And I remember going home and I would like, fuck me. like I fucked it up I was really down myself I was like you know and then we're flying to we're flying to Chicago and and night before we had dinner and Daryl came to me and he goes just just go

out play and he could see that I was kind of down and he said like just go on play you know you're going to be good like don't worry about it like you know we're going to win you know just really calmed me down and and it was amazing that that kind of I really because I took it I took it too hard. I was like, I'm going to fuck it up for these guys and everything. But like it looked out great and then game seven, um,

um, you know, we, we came, uh, and won, one, one, that series in seven again, so. What was the score of that game seven? And did you have any? Yeah, I tied it, I think, I think 11 minutes to go. Cool. Um, five, four and O.T.

Wow. Wow. That was, wow. You got the O. Justin William scoring OT? No, it was Martinez, yeah, Martinez That's right. And then he got the O.T. winner in the cup final? Yes. How was that? That must have been so nice for you, like, beating the Rangers, the team that essentially said they didn't want you anymore and, you know,

trade you to Columbus. Like, how fucking fulfilling was that? You ruined Hank's career. You scored the four of the five goals, I believe, on them, and then you end up fucking beating them in the finals. You know what? Like, there was a topic journalists were asking me about the same thing like playing New York

and stuff and playing them right now in the final but you know what coming to that series I had no fucking doubt that we're going to win like it was amazing feeling that I had with myself and a team

that there's no chance that we're going to fucking fuck this out and then the first game we're playing at home after 15 minutes we could have been down 3-0. They had like two breakaways,

cried or flying, fully off-flying. Like, they were like flying. And quickly stood on his head. Obviously, they had a couple posts as well, but like we got kind of lucky. We won that game and then got up on,

you know, three-nothing going to New York. We lost there, but then coming back home. And I remember I took a, took naps before every game, but then the game, the game five,

before game five at home, we were staying in a hotel before games and I couldn't sleep for shit like I was nervous I was I don't know usually I take three sheds before the game maybe I took fucking 10 and I was like so nervous but then when Marty scored that game

winner like it was second overtime everybody was tired but I jumped from that bench like I was like 25 again you know what I mean like it was amazing it was just unbelievable feeling and then I think when you win when you're 32 I was Was there something that you, and then I thought that I'm never going to win the cup when you were at that age and with everything was going on?

You know, you really appreciate it that you win later in your career than if you win your first or second year because then you probably think it's easy and maybe you don't appreciate it as much. But then I was like it was the best feeling ever in sports. I mean like you tied up game two late in the third too and when you guys wanted double overtime that's pretty sick you just scored big goals gabby did you did you guys play did they play anaheim in the second round yes and then you tied one up and game one of that fucking series too yeah I remember like it was like five seconds left and then

I scored an overtime too so yeah the things were just going my way and then playing you know with copy and brownie and those guys cards uh no doubty best defenseman, like, he was quick he's throwing his head. It was, it was unbelievable. It was like, yeah, like Tena you were going to retire. Or something. What's that?

Yeah. You were going to retire. Yeah. And Copi announced it's going to be his last year. And before I get to Copi, though, like that I don't know what they gave up to get you, but that might go down as one of the best trade deadline acquisitions of all time scoring 14 goals. And then just the

goals you score, like how many tangles winning goals but copi announced it's going to be his last year i would imagine one of the best players you got to play with incredible leader so humble and incredible human being like what was your experience with him yeah he was unbelievable like he was kind of like quiet leader um you know led by example and and um what a horse like i mean it's crazy he could he could eat up so many minutes and and uh just just the horse i would describe him and you know you could you think he seems like he's a good skater too you know what i mean when he gets going he's really good skater like he and he's so strong he takes guys on his back i never realized how good

and fast skater when he gets going he really is and the division you know always defensively i mean the shot everything just the whole package and and uh what a career he's had you know he could have played another i don't know how many years he's one he's built that he could last, you know what I mean? So good, good for him. Piz. Matt Fratton, who ended up playing four games for Columbus, a second round pick and a third round pick. Whoa.

That's masterclass in, in L.A. And I think that's a really cool story. The Lombardi, folks. I think it's a cool story that you're saying, you know, what's the coach's name? I'm drawing a blank. Sutter. He could be, he could be a motherfucker. But, like, you needed to hear that before game seven against Chicago.

like that shows that you know at times you got to realize what a guy needs sometimes they need a kick in the ass and you needed just a little hey dude it's all right go play that's pretty cool yeah yeah it was i mean he he was um he was great uh he was great with us um just even now like when we we had like 10 year uh couple years ago after the 14 we had a we had a 10 year cup reunion in in um in la and And we went out to Ohio for two, three days. It was unbelievable. Like, a lot of set up. And I think Stoli and Greener set it up. And great job by, you know, like the heads in L.A. that let it happen. But, you know, we talked about it.

And we were laughing with the guys that we could never see what kind of there we're going to get the next day. It was amazing. And then, you know, and then Chris, Chris Sutter, his son, you know, he always comes to locker when he was around. You know, you could be down. You could be like not being a mood, but he always comes in and lifts everybody up. It was amazing to see. The dance camp.

They used to put him on the jumbo tron during games and he would get the crowd going. And I mean, it was probably nice for you. I know your last year you ended up getting traded to Ottawa, but getting to play a thousand games, like going from potentially retiring way too young, winning a Stanley Cup and then getting the silver stick and getting that achievement.

That must have been a nice way to just count. off your career. Yeah, for sure. Great. So you meant, you know, to play that many games. I don't know if it even hit, like the, I don't think I even kind of realize what kind of career I had, you know what I mean? I don't know if it's still going to come or, but like still kind of like sometimes

I pinch myself if it's real that I get to lift the cup and I get to play with them. many unbelievable players, you know, playing unbelievable cities and in front of great fans, you know, and play a thousand games. So it's surreal. You were just electric to watch. I just got to bring up this is the Roeback last question. Use code chicklets on rowback.com for 20% off your first purchase to the end of the week. C-H-I-C-L-E-T-S on R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com, hoodies, polos, swim trunks, and more with code chicklets.

you mentioned all the surgeries. I kind of asked guys who've been through that much with their body. How's your body now? Because I know I have some issues that'll never go away. I wouldn't trade a thing. But with all your hip and knee stuff, are you good now? Are you able to be active, whether, you know, tennis or whatever you do for fun? Yeah, I mean, like, I have to get a knee replacement.

My knee is like bone or bone or cartilage, domeniscus. So I was supposed to get it done last March, but then I kind of pushed it away. but I need to get it done like on the sport I can do it's pretty much like skiing you know because it's like the sliding move

like when Hosa had his goodbye game here in Slovakia I just tried to get on the eyes I went on for 20 seconds just to try it out I couldn't I just had to get out I couldn't do anything so I was bummed out about that

but yeah I need to pretty much get it done like my kid I have three and five year olds and when I when I try to one day try to learn how to bicycle, I have to put a roller blades on in order to, I couldn't run for shit, you know, so put a rollerblades on and just holding that way. But yeah, that's pretty much, that's pretty much the thing that I have to get it done. And otherwise, I'm okay, my back and

everything. But those surgeries put a kind of toll on your body, but I wouldn't, wouldn't change it for anything. Fuck, I'm happy. You got a cup, dude. That's awesome. Yeah, me too, man. When did you do the dancing with the stars, though, if your body is that? That, I think it was a nail in the coffin for my knee. You did dancing with the stars? His wife's a dancer, dancing with the stars. The one in Slovakia or the one in North America? No, it's Slovakia.

Slovakia. Yeah. And, yeah, my wife, she was a professional dancer. And then so we were on as a couple. Not the kind you like, biz. Okay, okay. Yeah, so we were on as. a couple and it was unbelievable I loved it like it was it was it was great like uh obviously my wife

wouldn't let me dance with anybody else which I don't blame her but uh yeah um yeah it was it was great experience and that was kind of nail in the coffin for my knee i remember last round I was dancing I was I had a cortzone shot I had like kinesio tape on my knee so but it was uh it was fun so torts prepared you for Sutter and Sutter prepared you for your wife as a coach in the dancing department yes that's kind of how it went right yeah yep good to know Good to know. This is amazing. I got it on YouTube. It's like he's sitting on a plane. He's got the yellow shirt and the black tucks.

Wait until you see the one with them in bed. Oh, yeah. Oh, you got the feathers on. You look like Big Bird. Send me these videos right now. Just YouTube. Your buddies must have been just chewing you up on her chats. Oh, yeah. And then you know who else was there? Like Boris Valabic, we have a podcast together.

and he was on a show we're on the show together. So it was a basketball guy? Oh, NHL guy, Boris Valabic, you know. He played in Atlanta for 80 games, defensemen. Oh, yeah, big guy. He was the first rounder.

Yeah, big guy. I think he was drafted maybe my year, actually, yeah. He's 86. Okay, yeah, I think he might have won a Calder Cup with the Chicago Wolbs. Yes, yes, yes, he did, yeah. And so he was on a show. We have a podcast together,

and he was on a show, same same year so it was hilarious we were just giving it to each other it was fun what place did you come in it's big bird i came actually uh fourth so we ended up to center final yeah you can't walk anymore but you got fourth place his wife's like you're gonna take this fucking cortisone and you're gonna dance your ass off right it was unbelievable like we we haven't fought once you know like uh and and you know she's living my life pretty much for I don't know, we've been together since 2011, pretty much. And she was living my, like, hockey life.

And then I try to look into her life for three, four months. And it's unbelievable the dances, what kind of, it's a hard, it's a hard fucking sport. I can tell you that much. You really got into it. You're very like, ooh. Yeah, he's good. Fuck, I love that. What do you want him to not be into it?

No, I mean, but just like, he's got the buttons down on a shirt. you could see the you could basically see that his nipples i mean this is his wife yeah it's his no not they put you in some weird shit they put you in some weird stuff so but you got to know this has been uh this has been awesome man i can't thank you enough yeah we really appreciate this just a legend of the game man it was it was a disaster playing against you but a lot of fun to watch you play so congrats on everything and we appreciate you coming on yeah thank you guys very much for having me and good luck you guys do an awesome job with you. Whatever you

guys doing, it's unbelievable. Thank you and we'll keep an eye out for maybe a month or two, some, maybe something with the Olympics and Marion Gabrick in Italy. So good luck, man. Keep crushing. We should do a chicklets dancing with the stars, boys. No, thanks. No,

what are you mean? I'll judge. You don't think Bree would want to get in the mix? Do you see those? Not with me. She might want to dance with somebody else. She's seen me dancing. Can I dance with Marion? Oh, no. This is incredible. Thank you so much for your time, brother.

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and now it's time for you know what boys r a's wild wacky and he's muted no Oh, R.R.A's got to spike you. Oh, no, maybe it's just not working. Hello. That's okay, R.A. Everybody. Hello, everybody. I want to give up my top four.

He's right now listing out his top five albums by the Rolling Stones. Oh, he's gone. He's gone. He's gone. We needed one of those entrances from R.A., though. You know what I mean? That's just classic. That's just classic R.A. right there.

He was probably. talking about what he wants to talk about to himself, muted it so we didn't hear him and maybe forgot to unmute it. You know, that can happen to anyone, Biz. Yeah. And when he hops back on, though, we're going to have to do a little breathing to calm him back down. We don't want him being all scrambly.

He doesn't have to feel bad about muting his mic. I also want to hear about his experience with the wrestling. He went and saw John Cena's last performance in Boston. So here he is. R.A's back. What's up, brother? What's going on, boys? Yeah, a little mic issue

It was probably inevitable A little rusty, bud Yeah, I had a wild week, man I usually do nothing I stay home, watch games Go down on the club watch some games Time out, we can't start without the hello everybody

That's why I thought we were gonna Come on, go, all right, quick, We need it. Hello everybody, welcome to the fourth edition of Our Raise World here, the Spit and Chickens podcast, biz we got lots to talk about I had a very busy weekend I don't usually do shit, I'm old, I'm washed

but I went to an HL game, I went to wrestling, and I went to comics come home with a god, Lots going on this weekend, good stuff. Barney, that was awesome to see. I saw that you had a picture with Luch. Did you ride the Zamboni at that game? Actually, they had a little truck.

Me and my buddy, Mark Lewis, he's kind of a Massachusetts Instagram legend. They had us on the back of the truck, just chucking t-shirts out to the crowd. They had the shooter, but they didn't use it for whatever reason. I was just like, whatever you do, bro, just make sure you clear that glass, don't throw your arm out. But the thing was like going at a good clip, man. I had to, like, hold off a covering ship. But it was fun. I'll tell you, that's a great little bond out in Springfield.

I'd never been there before. It holds about 7,000, not a bad seat in the place. Definitely the warmest drink I've ever been into my life. I had a hoodie and, you know, my life preserve a vest, and I had to take both off. I was swept me yarsh off out there, but a great take. And yeah, it was great to catch up with Luch. I hadn't seen him in a bit. Obviously, you know, he had his difficulties he went through.

And, you know, him, he's made a lot of change in his life in St. Louis. That's why they brought him in. I think they did the similar thing with Montgomery a while back, a second chance situation. and hey, I'm all about second chances, as we all know. So he was out there. I mean, Luch has never been the fleetest of foot, but, you know, he kept the pace. I talked to him out.

He said his wind is fine, and I get the sense he's just going to do probably another game or so, and then St. Louis will probably bring him up and maybe give that locker room a kick in the house because it sure seems like they could use one. Yeah, they need it. I would imagine that there's probably a big bubble around him on the ice where none of those H.L.

guys come near him. Imagine playing the H.L. It's your first year pro when you see Milan Luchich on the ice. Yeah, but if it's some kid that's, looking to make a name. There's, there's definitely somebody out there that'd be willing to be like, if I do something to Luch and he's willing to go me, like, I'm going to get recognized some way. Yeah, for the 99.9 percentile that aren't lunatics that probably won't want to go near him, but good for him. And like you said, are a second chances. It seems like him and his wife

are thriving and couldn't be happier for the guy to get back to the game he loved. So what, did you talk about anything else after the game with him? Uh, yeah, well, Just basically how you've been, you know, happy for you that, you know, you're doing well. And, you know, just had a little bit of a chap. But definitely not the HL 20 years ago. Nobody went there. Nobody even sniffed. Like, I mean, it's just not the same era.

Like, I know, like you say, guys maybe want to make a name, but who the hell wants to fight him? He might be 37, but he's still going to pulverize whoever he fights. And I told him after, I said, you know, Luch, 18 years ago, I saw your debut with the Bruins back, you know, when you never played a minor league game before. And then his first minor league game, I went to both them. So it was pretty cool, a little bit of a full circle moment. and his white bridge she's she's a hot ticket man she's uh definitely charismatic she's she's electric too so he had a great time sitting there she bought us t-shirts and those crazy chains and hats so uh had a great old time in springfield a lot of fun that's awesome yeah definitely

a good home barn uh one of those barns where you travel to as an away guy and you're like get me the fuck out of here yeah really is a dump the glass the glass and boards don't move it's like they're made out of cement um in r a um vitrano famously has a uh a tattoo of the skyline. Does he not of Springfield Mass? Yep. Hilarious. Beautiful, beautiful place.

Yeah. There's a famous strip club where all the guys used to go there all the time. And I guess they would have a buffet and it was just one of those places that the H.L guys would hang out at. Have you ever been to that strip club? And I believe it's called Mardi Gras or something. I have not. I think I've been to Springfield maybe five times in my life.

The Basketball Hall of Fame, maybe taking a bus back to college for a pit stop. But haven't spent a lot of time out there. But it was great. A lot of the four and free is a big chicklets fan. So it took a lot of pictures, a lot of hello, there's a lot of well wishes. So it was nice to get out and see an HL game, go to that part of the state and, you know,

feel of love from all the chicklets fans. You go to the casino after? No, no, we went to the family room after, you know, the say what's up to Luch and then headed back to east to Boston. So great time, great take. And then it was like date week. And when me and my buddy, Mark, he had previously asked to go to this, you know, comics come home.

I know Keith and Witter familiar with it. I went last year. It was great. Oh, it was unbelievable. It's the 29th version Bizz. It's called Comics Come Home. It's for the Kimeli Foundation. Fuck Cancer, by the way.

It's 29 years he's done this show. I don't even know what the tickets were, but Dennis Larry, Lenny Clark, Conan O'Brien, Sebastian Manuscalco, burn the fucking place down. Sarah Silvman, Robert Kelly, and Michelle Bouttoe, I'd never heard of. She was great, but this gal, Aaron McGuire from Arlington, wasn't familiar with her, absolutely frigate hysterical. She started the show off, but for almost three hours, man. I don't even know, like I said, what the tickets was, but the comedic value yet from going this.

I mean, Manuscalc alone, he gets out probably a buck 50 a ticket. He was awesome. Colin O'Brien was awesome. I was trying not to a fan girl at the Red Cop, but I should have just went up and shook Colonel O'Brien's hand, but I kind of chickened out. Did they all end up getting up and doing like a 15-minute routine? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Every one I just named did up and did a set.

I mean, eight different people went up and did sets. It's amazing. The guy, the guy Robert Kelly or Bobby Kelly, I think he was introduced to us. was hilarious. I think he was the last guy to go last year. And I... This year, too. He was...

Oh, my God. He was hilarious. How did you get tickets to that, R.A.? Did you... He snuck out. Yeah, not this one. Nah, the two of I just mentioned, Mark Lewis. I don't...

Probably you guys probably follow him on Instagram. He's a big... I've seen him on Instagram. I followed him when I saw you, you tagged him. Yeah, we kind of... We buddyed up a couple years ago. He's a character. I like...

Array, you look fucking great there. Look at that jacket, Array. Holy shit. You look like you're walking in like kind of badod to the guy. Yeah, what's his name? Schmalti, yeah, he said he liked my drip, so when I hear that, I know that means good shit. Yeah, that's actually an L.A. Firejack on my boys, the Mullinswin sent it to me a while back.

So, yeah, just a great night, a lot of laugh. Saw from laugh for the next day. Great cause, too. And, yeah, I actually met Bobby Kelly after my buddy, Mark. He's pals of him. So it was nice to say hi, hang out with them afterwards. And then, this is hilarious. I had that talk his appointment Monday.

Nothing serious, just a little quick thing. We were trying to call you in, dude. Yeah. You're trying to get you to talk bees. You got a hang nail? No, I do, no, it's weird. I get these, like, bumps on the sole of my feet. And they're just, dude, it's just getting old, man.

All this, like, my fuck, I'm right in my hip. I got these bumps in my feet. I thought they were going to have to cut them out, but I'm going to get an ultrasound. They're just, just fucking age, man. You just get things that you don't expect. Yeah, I know, I got a little few bumps around. My pussy head. Do you see my pussy head?

Oh, yeah. My mother was wondering, she texts to be pissed. She's like, what's up with business here? I was like, I don't know, my, it's, it's, it's friggin' Biz. I think he's trying to change his vet. As in why did I shave it? Yeah, because she was watching the bees on TNT and she's the first thing she does, text me about business

friggin' hair. All right, is that an old fish tank you're drinking out of? No, this is a it's a baseball. It's, uh, when I was at Wrigley Farrow 8, well, I went to Oasis. I got a, I was a margarita came this on a little swing. Oh, yeah. If there was a goldfish in there, I'd be like, yeah, boom, that's a Cubs

goldfish tank. Swallow like a Who loves Cadillac Margaritas more than rear? Johnny Hill, Wolf of Wall Street style. So I was walking home from the hospital, just taking my time. I was, you know, making little goofy videos and stuff. And I'm walking toward the garden. I was going to get some ramen at that place in front of the garden. And there's like all kinds of people.

I'm like, what's going on tonight? Selt's on here, bees on here. And then I was like, oh, it's a joint seat his last night. Everyone's like, yeah, we're going in. So Sid they eat my ramen. I look up. I get a ticket. I was like, fuck, I'm next door.

I've been a wrestling in 40-something years. And I got the ticket kind of late. And I get in. I was like, when seen a going to be like, dude, it already happened. I was like, what? I'm like, I just assumed it was going to be fucking later in the bad, but it was the first match. I mean, I was already late when I got the ticket,

so I would have missed that anyways, but I stuck around. I was down like the third row. It's so different, like, from when I used to went, here, here's a little clip right here. That's how close I was right there. So, but when Sina was, people must have just cleared out, right? No, everyone stayed after.

You couldn't hear a thing, my buddy said. He goes, it was definite, like when he came out when he won the match. I guess he won the Intercontinental. I was kind of bummed. I missed it, but I, you know, I just wanted to kind of taking the atmosphere and it's so different obviously when I went because it's a live TV show so you know they'll play like see him punk song and he'll come out but there's a delay so then he's just out there on the ring like kind of like the song he'll play again it was kind of weird

there's lasers going all all over the place and shit it's just totally different but i'll tell you the lady wrestlers they're the best unbelievable the athleticism on me going oh like what's her name rhea rippley i think i think she's austrian oh she's she's married though that one's married, man, we can take care of that. And then the, uh, the, the, the, uh, the, the, the other, uh, girl, I forget her name lady, uh, they were just, the, the best athletes in the business, man, what they do is done it. So it was fun.

It was something different. I mean, I'm not going to make it a habit again for, like 40 years ago, but I enjoy the bodybuilder girls get you going a little bit. Um, not crazy about like totally jack girls, but I am Theria Rippley. I'm a fan of her as I saw her do interviews, like, signs makeup. Like, you know, she has there, like her makeup off of the show. She's, uh, she's definitely very attractive. and some about that Australia accent.

Good night, it gets me going. Love me a six pack on a woman. Ah, yeah, whatever. I mean, I have to borrow it from her because I ain't going to have a six pack anytime soon. So, yeah, just kind of a fun weekend, a little wild weekend, out of the blue. I do want to mention, I probably already mentioned her on the show pasta, 400 goals, awesome stuff. I mean, the bones are actually rolling that. Oh, we're going to go, rear.

It's why you're playing cleanup. The bench cleared. Now, that was a topic of discussion. discussion already. I don't ever remember the bench clearing for 400 goals. Do you guys? I don't. I noted in the blog I wrote. People chat in online, of course, everybody has an opinion nowadays. But I honestly, Whit, I thought it was just indicative of how much that that team loves and respects positive that they did it. You know what I mean? Right, 400. I'd never seen it. Obviously, Tamara's get his 500, but it was a blowout. I didn't think, you know,

at least aren't got to come off the bench when they're losing 6-1 or 6-2, whatever. But I think it was just how much they loved that guy and Sturm talked about it after the game. And it was just indicative of the love, respect they have for them, and whatever. I believe you have to ask the league. I think you have to ask the league if you're going to do that. Oh, really? This is my hot take. If you score 400 with the same organization, I think that it's fair game.

Like, how many guys have scored? One goal, everyone should come on the ice. First goal, it should be allowed to. Every goal you score, everyone should come on. So they used to do that. I know. That's another thought. I think the hairy knuckle line is kind of a happy,

medium. I thought people said that it was just because it was against the Maple Leafs. They did it, which if that was the game, I said on the broadcast, I got PTSD the way he scored it. It felt like that OT winner game seven after Monty called out pasta. You knew it was going to come back to bite us. How many players have scored 400 goals for one organization? I bet you the list is less than, I bet you the list is less than 30 guys.

Not sure. I don't know. I'd take it. the under with you biz because that to me is why i'm okay with like people like he said people like oh it's like hot take or or or not to be a buzzkill but that's ridiculous for 400 goals like first of all how many guys have scored 400 goals and how many guys have done it for one organization and as you touched on r a like pasta now like after the the the quote unquote glory years because he was there for the the patrice the marsha the chara now that that's gone he's still fucking

keeping them relevant. And on Bucci, you know, Bucci Gras, he's like the goal savant. He called friggin, you know, Ovechkin breaking Gretzky's record back. I like the mesolethic arrow, whatever. So he says, pasta, if he should easily get 500. If he stays a brover for life, he'll beat Bucig's record, team record, 545 goals. So, you know, I love him. I hope he doesn't go anywhere.

And to the Leafs, this is how courtesy my buddy, Mike Sullivan on Twitter, including playoffs, 55 games played, pasta versus Toronto, 37 goals, 34 assists. 71 points in 55 total games versus the Leaves 1.29 points per game. Sorry, Biz, I love you, buddy, but I had to check that way out there. She says pasta's going to get 600. That's fair. Yeah, I mean, he's definitely getting five. Still young.

What's he 28, 29, I think he is? What? He's not 30 yet. He started young, man. I'm thought. I'm terrible. He's 29. 29.

Okay, all right. It was close, yeah. So, boy, it's been a few episodes. I haven't talked about all. the movies I went to see this year. I know movies are my big thing. I still love going to the theater. I have no problem going by myself. I don't know why people think it's weird. You're going to sit there and not talk anyway. So I want to talk about a few things I saw this year that I really like really stood out. First off, Sinus. I don't know if any of you guys

watched that yet. Ryan Cooghley, he directed the two Black Panthers in the First Creed, made the studios a billion dollars, so they let him kind of do this pet project. And it's a wild, wild movie. It starts off two like black gangsters. They used to work for Al Capone. They go back It's like 1930s, Mississippi. And Michael B. Jordan plays them. Both our characters. They're twins. And they want to start like a juke joint, you know,

the drink of gabble and his carouse late night. And then all of a sudden, it's just got a regular movie. Then it's not a spoiler. It's the vampire aspect shows up. That's why I'm not seeing it. It's just that to me. The vampires don't get me going.

Yeah, I was in. I was in. The way it sounded, it sounds great to me. You bring in the vampires side. I'm just, I'm out. But I've heard incredible reviews, already about the movie. Yeah, I went in blind and it's like me and my mother. Like,

we haven't been in the movies of forever. I was, want to go see this one? I don't really know much about it. If my mother heard vampire, she wouldn't want to see it. And she really enjoyed it. Even a couple of days later, she's like, well, that movie kind of got in my head because, you know, brings up, you know, there's a big blues music aspect to it. There's like even some out, like an Irish culture aspect to it. And yeah, if you're not a vampire person per se, you might not like it. But if you put it on and stop watching it, you might get sucked in. And it was pretty no pun intended. But you might enjoy it. Anyways, I gave. is 4.5 Wadhawks. That's my scale. Bap is 4.5. 4.5 wordhugs. Yeah, we're going to

a 1 to 5 warthog scale. So, yeah, I thought it was really good. It's probably going to get a best pitcher nomination, you know, screenplay. I assume Michael B. Jordan's going to slam bun for best actor because he played two different roles. But yeah, great movie. You think he's going to win it? I don't think he's going to win it. But a nomination. I think he's definitely going to get a nomination. So another movie I was really looking forward to it. Like, I saw the original Superman, the movie, 1970. I was six years old and it was awesome

I mean there was a little kid it was really the first superhero movie that ever really came out and sort of started the craze so I was you know I'm still a superman guy I didn't like the last few the Zach's title ones

I thought they were kind of dark and dreary and James Gunn directed this one they're kicking off the whole new DCU universe so I thought it was a little over stuff because you know they want to create these worlds so they want to make more movies so you know what Marvel did for 20 years so it was a little over stuff

maybe too many characters but I did enjoy the hell out of it. The guy who played Superman David Corrin Sweat, never heard of him. And they did a good job, but that's a smart move to bring in sort of an unknown actor to play him because then you don't have like, oh, you're out looking at him. Oh, that's Leo. That's Denzel or whoever. He was excellent. And what's his name? Who played Lex Lutta, Nicholas Holt. But I think I'm going to love at Lois Lane, though. Rachel Brosnahan, she plays that Mrs. Maisel. Do you ever see that show with on Showtime? Yeah, it's like a 50s Jewish housewife. She becomes like a stand-up comedian back in the day. But yeah, the new lowest slam was dynamite. But it was definitely very much

a comic book movie. If you know what I didn't say, you know, that kind of goofy comic book stuff, might not be your favorite. But either way, Superman, I give it three and a half wothogs. I enjoyed it. It's, you know, it's optimistic. You know, Superman is that element to him that is, I guess, a little corny and, you know, sweet. But I thought they, they nailed the tone and looking forward to the next one. This one, the naked gun reboot. All right. I'm weary of reboots, Reduce. Liam Mason, unbelievable. I thought he carried the tradition on doing the deadpan.

He plays Frank Dreben Jr., you know, the first one, Keith, with Leslie Nelson. I mean, legit, the naked gun is one of the top fucking 10 funniest movies of all time. This was hilarious, dude. Like, Liam Mason, unbelievably dead pan. Pam Anderson was great. She was sort of like the love interest in it. Paul Walter Hauser, the big dude he was in Blackbird. He's awesome and everything.

A lot of fun, a lot of laughs. I actually got the DVD coming. Liam Neeson being unreal with the deadpan and it's probably awesome to see him out of his normal character, right? I feel like he kind of got pigeonholing in the same type of guy for a lot of those awesome movies when he went and I will find you and I will kill you. But yeah, that would that would be. And didn't he end up like, aren't him and Pamela like together now because of the movie? There was some scuttle butt about that. I don't know if it was peop purposes.

I don't know if it was a real thing. I didn't, I mean, compels with his kid. I didn't ask him, but it would be no. But I did send him a picture with one of the headlines. I was like, way to go fucking dad, you know what I mean? Because there was some talk about it. But he said, how did you become friends with Liam Neeson, son? His kid's a good guy.

He texts me once in a while, too. He's a good kid. Yeah, through DM, Instagram. I've hung out with him down in New York a bunch of times. Getting the text that your dad's banging some shit is crazy. There is a rumor that Liam Neeson has the biggest cock in Hollywood. Yeah, another thing I did not confirm. Better than John.

Let's get his kid on. But yeah, let's get the old man on. But he did, he said that Pam is absolute sweetheart. She's like a doll of a press and absolutely a great lady. Anyways, I got to, it's one of those like movies you missed the jokes. And also the jokes like very not politically incorrect. Basically like jokes, we used to hear movies 25 years ago. And I hope this sort of starts a trend where, hey, people are pissed off.

Fuck it, man. Let's make the joke and see what happens. So moving along, one battle after another. This is the best movie I saw this year. Wow, you liked it. Paul Thomas Anderson, you know, Boogie Nights, Magnolia, there will be bloodbiz. We know you like that one. I thought it was excellent.

I know people sort of assigned there maybe beliefs to the plot, whatever. Basically, Leo DeCapio, he's a revolutionary, you know, and they start off earlier in his revolutionary days. He goes on the run and he has a daughter. Then it flashes forward like 60 years later. And Sean Penn is his bat-shick crazy army guy who's obsessed with catching him and or his daughter. And it becomes, it's essentially like a chase movie.

I know there's, he was written and directed a year and a half ago before the last election. So it wasn't based on current events, although when you watch it, it may feel like he wrote the movie a couple months ago. But the scenes at the end with the big chase scene, it's legit one of the best, like scenes I've seen in the theater in years, definitely going to get tons of nominations. Leo's going to get one, Sean Penn's a slam dunk for best support and actor. So one battle another, I give it five wardhards, man. I saw it twice, two or three times at the theater. And again, I know some people like, you know, I'm able to separate the real world from Vermont.

It's like, hey, man, he doesn't make anybody look good in one side. He wasn't taking sides. It was not a polemic. He wasn't like anything preachy. It was just like, hey, here's a movie. These people did these things. These people did these things and they chased each other. Is it like fiction, like a different?

Yeah, yeah. It's a fictional movie. No, no, I know this didn't happen, but is it like the world we're living in now or is it like something else happened and it's? I believe, R.A., he started writing it a while ago and then just kind of, like, I don't know because of the political times, it just made sense to finish it more recently. Like, not to say he, like, rushed to finish it, but I think he's been going, he was going at it for a while.

And just the fact that, like, today's political climate just matched his idea from when he started it, whatever it was, 15, 20 years ago and started writing it, it just so happened. It all came together. And obviously, like, he's a big enough name and a big enough G where they funded that type of movie where it's very hard to get the types of returns on those types of movies now, right? You have to, not many, not many guys, not many directors are getting the trust and the funds from, from these, these, uh, big companies. Because you're saying there's, there's groups of people that just won't see it out of what it's just, it's not like, it's not a, it's not a Marvel movie where so many people are going to, go see it where you're you're automatically going to see the profits like they like they had to grind and promote to probably break even and maybe they're in the and and what do you have to

promise leo and these types of actors in order to even do it like they're probably getting a slice of percentage of what the gates taken in but maybe also not because leo and those types of actors appreciate the art where maybe they're probably willing to leave a little bit of money on a table and the fact that they can even, like, be involved in a piece of art that's directed by. Is that streaming yet, it's not streaming yet. And his movies, yeah, they typically don't make a lot of money. But I think Warner Brothers was the studio. And this is a case of, hey, we make what we make.

If we break even, who cares because it's an Oscar movie. It's like this movie's going to be nominated and would definitely win Oscars. And that's more cashier, I think, than, you know, break it even or making a few bucks. And as far as the screenplay, it was very loosely based on a Thomas Pills. Sean novel. I think that's how you say his name. His book's a little way over my head. So he had been working on it on it for a while. It was a very loose adaptation of a book. But yeah, when you're watching, you don't think he wrote the script a month ago, even though he filmed it, you know, like a year and a half ago. And what was the other thing? Oh, going back to Paul Thomas Anderson, I believe when he was filming, there will be blood. Did he also do no country for old men?

Well, he directed him, not simultaneously. But yeah, he directed. No, but I think that they had to redo something. I'm sorry, the Cohen, you're sorry, the Cohen's directed No Country for Old Men. Okay. You know what? You're right. They were no country for old men. They were filming like next to there will be blood. And there was like smoke from one of the scenes that the other cameras were catching something crazy.

Good. That's a great pole biz. That's a great point. Yeah, Biz knows there will be blood, everything about it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think it was the scene where the, the oil rig kind of explodes, right? Yeah.

And so there was smoke in the sky. and they had to like stall No country for old men for a while. What's that? What's that? You ruin the movie? I haven't seen it. Oh,

that's not the significant. It's a slow burn. No pun intended. Yeah. There would be bad. Two hour and 45 minute movie and honestly it feels like an hour and 45 minute movie. It just like flies along and it's funny too.

It's funny as hell. Leo's absolutely hilarious. He's like this dead beat stoner. Wicked funny in the movie too. So I give like I said five wardhugs. And one more. This one was actually not in a theater. was only available on Netflix.

It was called Nonna's, known as an Italian grandma in case you're not aware of that. And Vince Fawn made it. I don't be directed or he was involved with the producer, I know. And I threw it on for shits and giggles. You know, Vince Fawn, he's kind of, you know, you know what you're going to get with Vince Fawn? By the end of it, man, I was like,

oh, where's the Kleenex? I may have a tissue drive down my eye. It's based on a true story of a guy who starts a restaurant and he has all these Italian grand grandmothers, cook, a lot of them are widowed or that, you know, they're kind of lonely or whatever. So he had all these Italian grand grand grandmothers come into the restaurant and they were the cooks for the restaurant,

and then they made the movie about it. It's on Netflix. I enjoyed the hell of it. It's definitely a feel-good movie. If you're a Italian, you'll absolutely love it. But none is, I guess, four wardhags from your boy, R.A. And so you can watch it on Netflix. So good stuff there.

Classic recommendation this week. We're going to go back to 1997 movie with a couple of Oscars. L.A. Confidential. Streaming in the usual spots. You could probably rent there for a couple bucks. Absolutely terrific movie. Again, one of those movies, put your phone down, pay attention because the plot.

It starts from the beginning, and it doesn't stop the whole way. Russell Crowe guy passed. They were virtually unknown when the movie come out. Kim Basinger won Best Support and Actress when it was nominated for like 9 to 10 different awards. Best Picture at Lost the Titanic, understandably. But it's just a great 1950 set about, you know, dirty clops, corruption, all this stuff going on. Danny DeVito's in it. So many stars in it.

Huge recommendation. Anybody here has seen it, L.A. Confidential? No. Or am I got to go all for three? No shit. No, I know the name of a song. I got a Kim Basinger

looks incredible in this Oh yeah She is That's what she got Like I said Best Support An actress She went for that

Oh and went for Screenplay as well But fantastic movie Again you can find It usual spots Rented by it Whatever LA Confidential

Top-Bunch film Definitely in another year Probably would have won Best Picture But for Titanic Titanic I say Titanic 99% on Rotten Tomatoes

That's pretty good Yeah Yeah fantastic Flick How many wardhogs Yeah I get five LA

Definitely but you can't be like this watching it because like said you'll miss one little plot point it just constantly moving in plot wise awesome movie awesome story uh and what's granted my gears we're going to keep with this movie stuff what's got buying digital movies right caveat mTOR that's latin for buyer beware you're not actually buying anything you know i know some people buy them for the kids or whatever nobody reads the fine print on these things i certainly don't but you really don't own shit like you know you buy it it's there most of the time but if the contract with that studio, whatever, runs out, and that movie's not there anymore.

You don't have access to it anymore. Really? Yeah, because you don't own it. You're essentially leasing it through the streamer company. A lot of people don't know this. It doesn't happen a lot, but it can. Like, your movie's gone. Like, well, I bought it.

Well, you really didn't. What if you downloaded it? Um, well, if you download it, then you, well, what, like on your computer you mean? I don't know how that, yeah. I mean, I'm talking like streaming. I mean, if you download it on the side, piracy, well, whatever, I guess you'd have it. I'm just talking if you buy it on TV.

Someday it might be gone. Like, again, if there's a... So did this happen to you recently? No, no, it hasn't, but I, you know, I'll... It's five bucks. I'll buy stuff, but I get what you're saying, all right? If you pay $17.99 to buy the movie and the next thing, you know, it's not there, what should happen is they should refund you the difference that it would have cost it just to rent it.

Yeah, but fine print. That's what they back up because they're not going to give you anything back. It's just another reason. And so, like, people laugh me. I still buy a Blu-Rays. Carlito's Way. Great, by the way, five war dogs. Another reason to buy, you know, CDs and DVDs and stuff is, like, what these companies do, man, they change movies. They'll, like, edit the movies. So, like, here's an example. There's a classic from the 70s, Gene Hackman, Roy Scheider, the French Connection, great movie based on a true story, one of the all-time great car chases, almost people killed. Well, I thought that was the line for the Canadians. If you, if you bought, yeah, the Sabers, actually. Our savers.

Say you bought the Friends Connect. You know, your boom and dad watches it and loves the movie. Well, what happened was because of the PC pussy bullshit that goes on. They edited some lines out. They took lines of Gene Hackman's policeman out. He plays a dirty cop who was, you know, racist and misogynistic and all that stuff that 70s clubs were. They took out some of the words, he said, you know, it's the end word. But they take it out of the movie.

So say you watch it one time, well, they redid it. They reloaded it with, like, without certain language. So then the next time you go to watch it, you know, not that you're sitting there waiting to hear those words, but it takes away like what the character is. It's telling you, this guy's a racist asshole when you use those words. So it's kind of taken like the honest intention away from the movie. And it happened too in Splash.

I'm probably going to sound like a dirty old man here, but I was watching Splash. And when she gets out of the water, you know, Statue of the Island there, all of a sudden it cuts to a different scene. Now the scene is, you know if you saw a splash. There's Darrow Hans. She's the mermaid, but she gets out of the water. Yeah, and she's walking

And you see her bare ass with the hair And then when I was watching it was like Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna lie I would have seen Dowell Hannah's ass It's on Disney though Yeah Well, that So what's crying your gears is you can't see bare ass

And the fact of censoring in bombs Okay, that's I mean, that's a strong cake They screw the movie colors But no, again, the same thing It takes the honest intention away Because when you see a grown woman get out of the water Where ass hang out, that shows her like Her knight

And I always butcher her, how naive she is And she's unaware that you're not supposed to be walking around naked. So when you kind of seem like that, it's like, oh, I glad she better have been a little more hip to that. So basically, if you want to watch the movie, you fell in love with the way you want to fucking watch it like most people. I mean, this is not going to stop going away, man. I don't know. I don't agree with it at some weird form of fucking corporate censorship. How many people listening do you think have a DVD player?

Wow. I don't. Of course you don't. 50% maybe? Not a chance. No way, all right. Really? Not a chance.

Unless, actually, on video games now, I don't even think you put it in anymore. I bet you more people have a record player than DVD player. For sure. I was a Newberry comics the other day. The one of Phadio Halls Diamond. I bought, I bought like five CDs the other day. I still find I could buy CDs or listen to them. Do you have a record player already?

I do not. I didn't jump on the vinyl crazy, even though I do got Saturday Night Fever soundtrack right behind me on vinyl. You're, oh, you do, yeah? yeah i love who's the one you just lifted up it's a it's a black girl right she's very talented she's got a she's got a st louis blues jersey on that's right wow she's got the colton peranko but but if you listen to her tape the ocean picture you don't get you don't get the yeah you don't get to see it yeah how often do you listen to albums like daily weekly right i'd say when i'm out here i'd say i'd say i'd say i'd

say yeah a couple times a week huh what i like about them r a is like even like old cds that i that i bought and listened to like you used to get your favorite songs and just skip to it but with the record play you got to listen to them all so you find songs that you didn't love back of the day and i love them now so that's what i like about it boys um i have to catch a flight and we kind of went a little bit long you guys could continue um all right i don't know if you had anything written up about uh larry brooks and i was just going to ask you if uh Did you have something? I did, yes.

I had it toward the end. We can obviously do it right now. Larry Brooks, the great New York Post hockey writer. True character of the game passed away. It was announced as sporting on the New York Post. On behalf of all of us, we extend the deepest condolences to Larry's family, his friends, his New York Post, peers, and everybody in hockey media who knew him. It's just a true, true legends of the game, character, a one of one.

So I get condolences. And in the same vein, to my niece, Kayla, Rob, Sherry, Kim, Kim, Jerry. The rest of the Koko family, I said you, my deepest sympathies on the loss, Papa Joey. This is my niece's other grandfather who just passed away, and I just kind of got the news today. It was suddenly, so I love you guys. I'll see you soon. Sorry, right. So sorry for your loss.

Love Papa Joey. I'll see you guys soon. So, Biz, if you got to skid down, I just got a couple more picks out. Yeah, and I just, like, you know, condolences to the Brooks family as well. Like, we got a, me and G, got a text from his son, Jordan today, and just, he just mentioned how much of a good time he had coming on the pod. I was just thankful at the fact that the chance that we got a chance to interview him. You know, legendary hockey writer, you know, didn't have a problem like, you know, going after the establishment and really didn't care, man.

He was a true journalist and just a real legend of the game of hockey and other sports and other things as well. But I really think he left his mark on the hockey world. And it's unfortunate that I believe it was cancer and it took a turn for the worst. And he was taken too soon at the age of 75. and actually even like Wayne was he shot a text of the group text today of the TNT and he reached out four days ago to Larry saying hey Larry and I heard maybe things aren't going so good I just wanted that you know we're thinking of you and sure enough so you know

he's a legend and and you know a lot of people loved him so once again my condolences so dialed into the Rangers what was going on in the league and yeah he was a tight of like hockey writing and you can see it goes back to like how much beef we talked about beef recently and how much he was loved and you guys are going to see the result of the internet invitational but just the response online to larry brooks's passing like you could see how big of a giant he was and how well respected that he was not only from from all his colleagues but also the players man like that like go read what henrik lunkwis had to say about him he played you know 15 years for for the rangers so um yeah i i'm gonna take off here but a tough way to end the pod and uh and thanks

for writing that up all right course absolutely when you leave we'll we'll we'll make sure we play the uh the peek in trailer yeah that's coming out the 19th so we'll have another show before then we'll talk a little bit more about it but we're in the final stages of editing and it's going to be an incredible three three episode series so love you boys great pod and hopefully everybody enjoyed safe travels buddy Take you a busy. Ha ha ha. I gave this podcast five hogs.

There we go. R.A. I forget who mentioned it last week or maybe it was a couple weeks ago. It's like getting these guys in the Hall of Fame before they pass away. Like I'm so happy that he got into that Larry got into the Hall of Fame before he passed away. He was able to enjoy that with his family because it's, it's well deserved and having played in New York. And, you know, you have your run-ins with him daily. He's there every day.

And I don't know if you heard Witt earlier, but I really enjoyed. I know guys that I played with had some dustups with him or whatever, but he loved that shit. It was like he was there to grow the game. He was there to, you know, tell the truths about the game and stuff like that. But I think I liked them mostly because I never read any articles while I was playing. And it was just kind of like I didn't, you know, I didn't want to hate a guy for calling it how it was on the ice. You know, like you're not going to be good every night. You're going to get shit on in the media.

But he definitely was a staple in that locker room and he'll be missed. and I hope his family is doing as good as they can. Well said, brother. Well said, yeah. He was old school and a lot of balls, man. We need more people like that. I'd be, no doubt. He'd still write stuff down.

Even later on, like, I remember him writing it down. And you'd try to look at what he was writing. You could not understand it. You couldn't chicken scratch. It was just like one or two words, like for every sentence. It was pretty cool to see. Yeah, well said. So we'll finish up a couple picks here.

Last week, good week in the parks I gave up. about over six Bruins Toronto, it was a five-free Bruins win. I said if Sanpastas Vassi versus the caps, he did, they won that. Shit the bed in the NFL, though. I don't know what I was thinking. I took the Cardinals, they got fucking smoked from the jump, and the 90s made it interesting, boom, they lost. So last week it was pretty much a wash.

But this weekend, I like a few things this weekend. Today, Nashville is playing at 2 o'clock. They're over in Sweden versus the Pence. Let's take the predators here. I think Penguins have been struggled a little bit. I think Saros will probably get the start. He has been playing great there. We're going to jump on Nashville to pick him.

And as always, put half your play on the puck line, which would probably be about 220. Let's see, Saturday, Tampa and Florida. First game of the year between these two hated rivals. Again, Avasi starts for Tampa, jump on Tampa. He had a shitty start last game. And number one goalies typically respond with a good effort. So we're going to take Tampa.

Don't have a line yet, per usual. Take the money line and then half of your money line bet, put on the puck line. Saturday night, two other teams. I'm riding these two teams probably to pay my friggin' rent for the next year. Anaheim over Minnesota, they're in Minnesota. Again, no lines yet.

They lost a tough one with Colorado last night. And then San Jose over Seattle. They're in Seattle. Again, the money line and then half of your bet put on the puck line. San Jose, they're a moneymaker. They're only two points out of a playoff spot right now. So let's see. Hopefully we keep it rolling, boys.

So I did wear up a few bucks on the air, but hopefully a few we were tailing. Can you bet the amount of penalties? season, though, because I think that Florida Tampa game. I saw Tampa called some guys up, too. Yeah, well, yeah, that Sabrin's playing. He's the one who hit Eckee behind the net, started all the shit. So it's going to be a shit show, I think.

Yeah, that's a good call. Like total penalty minutes or something? Yeah, I'll poke around. I'm not sure. I'm pretty bet on everything else nowadays. So probably that too. So all right, boys, any other final notes before you're on here? We just got to let everyone know that Monday's show, it will not be live.

It'll drop at 6 a.m. Monday. We're going to record Sunday. evening. I think Keith has some stuff going on with the lacrosse tournament. Merles might hop on, but we have a trip to LA. We're doing some sandbaggers. We're doing a bunch of pretty big interviews. So we're going to be flying all day Monday. We won't be able to do it live. So 6 a.m. drop. Then Thursday, which would be the 20th, will be sandbagger. There's a sandbagger dropping. I got a view of that. It's excellent. A lot of fun. And Wednesday, the day before that, the 19th, will be busy's first episode of Peking.

So I think we play that trailer now, and then everyone know that Monday won't be live. It'll be live wherever you get it at 6 a.m. So you want to play the trailer, G? Boom. There you go. 19th, 25th, December 3rd, 3 episodes. Can't wait to check that out. Good work by Biz. Good work by Donny does.

R.A. shout out R.A.'s world and all the warthogs you gave out for the movies. I'll have to check out L.A. Confidential. Definitely. Thank you to everyone. Have a great weekend. And we'll see you Monday, 6 a.m. this time. Peace. agree with that you.

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