Spittin Chiclets - Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 646: Featuring Murls, Army & Bob Stauffer

Episode Date: May 14, 2026

On Episode 646 of Spittin' Chiclets, the Avalanche end the Wild's Playoff dreams in Overtime, The Oilers fire their head coach, the Stauff-man joins to keep oil nation in high spirits and RA might be going to Buffalo to cheer for both squads. All this and more on this weeks episode, you won't want to miss it. Support the Show: PINK WHITNEY: Go get a bottle of Pink Whitney. Pinkies UP! SHELL: Shell V-Power® NiTRO+ Premium Gasoline.
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Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is basketball sports. I brought it towards the coyotes and I asked him if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chickles podcast full-time. Ryan Whitney, you got a pink Whitney out there now. There's a fan bagger, get that on camera. Eni Khianda, the Sank Man. It's a full-time member. Marley just got an assist from Chris B. Whoa, we're buzzing right now.

Sank. What is a... folks welcome to episode 646 of the spitting chicklets pinkies up podcast let's go get them up mur let's get them up if anyone wants them up right oh you were getting a bottle right there mer's ready he's going to take a victory lap wild fans you don't deserve what you're about to hear from minnie we got plenty to catch up on the abs are moving on what a series we got in montreal buffalo i got some takes in that one i know you guys do as well vagus looking to close it out tonight and the oil The Oilers.

The Oilerspire. Toronto Oilers. We're going to, Hey, the Toronto Oil Kings. Yeah, I would say Toronto and Edmonton, teams that are discussed

quite often on this show are not exactly, uh, things aren't exactly going smooth in either spot, but we'll get to that late. The gargoyles are running a tighter operation than them. What do you mean? Smooth. Ooh,

the Savannah bananas. It's like, what the, like, oh my God, boys. Holy shit. But we got way bigger stuff to get, too. Merles is here.

I think we're going to get a little armed dog mix in here. He's at the Ryan Malone golf tournament right now. Amazing foundation and event he's got going on right now in Pittsburgh. So he's going to check in. And I think we got to start. We got to start boys in Colorado. I mean, it's over. Five games.

Five games. And I wanted seven. I hoped for seven. I pictured seven. I think the abs are just, they're too good. They're too dominant. They're too fast. They're too quick.

They have McKinnon. And we'll get into some takes that Wild fans seem to be furious about. They want Biz dead, which really cracks me up. And for anyone who doesn't know, a clip went, I'd say, a little viral of Biz celebrating as Colorado scored in overtime. I think he just wanted to go home. That's what it was. He didn't want a late night and he wanted to get a weekend off of work. but Wild fans thought that he was celebrating Colorado moving on.

I had Hartman, I had Hartman scoring the OT winner. Now, like I said, so if that series would have gone seven games, I would have had to stick around for Friday, Saturday in Atlanta. I've been here for basically a month bunker down in a hotel room. So I was like, okay, well, I'd rather just have the weekend off, recharge, and get ready to travel for the whatever conference finals

we end up doing on the road with TNT. And I think a lot of fans, like no matter who or what you say in the broadcast, they automatically think you're rooting against their team. I would have totally been okay seeing seven games in the series, but you can't hold a three nothing lead. You don't deserve to get seven games. And according to Murals, you're a fraud squad.

So tough scene there, but they probably shouldn't have posted that clip because I guess it does show a little bit of bias, but I was just happy the series was over and I get to go home. So my apologies to all the wild fans. As I said, going into the series, boys, if Eric Sinek and Boldie would have been in a lineup,

I actually would have picked Minnie to win that series in seven games. Rodin. Sorry. Or who did I say? Boldie. Boldie. Or Boldie. I meant Brodine.

My apologies. Thanks for the correction. But I just, yeah, I think that those two pieces would have made such a massive difference based on the goals I was seeing, based on the breakdowns. And it's unfortunate because I actually thought that like when Walstead came back in that I thought he was going to,

to be kicking and they would still be a problem. But as you guys said, Colorado at the depth, like the depth in the last two games really showed up. Parker Kelly, I mean, Drury, who was a throw in on the nature's trade.

Like he was huge, great fourth line center. And then fucking Kulak, Kulak. Kulak. Yeah, this is. Kulak loved more five on five ice than Kail Makar in that series,

boys in five games. So to the Edmonton Oilers, you guys are fucking you guys are stupid. Oh, yeah, we'll get into them later. So it's funny because I sent a tweet out after just kind of like, oh, wild fans. And nobody gets their dicks kicked in and their hearts ripped out more than

Minnesota sports fans. I'm telling you, it doesn't matter. We got the Vikings, the Timberwolves, the twins, the wild. The links are nasty. It's what? The links are nasty. Okay, sick. That's awesome. Are there scores on ESPN.com? I don't know.

I believe their PWHL team won the championship the last two years, didn't they? There we go. Minnie gets to win. You got something, Minnie. They got a hockey team there. But the message I said was it just, you know, it sucks. You lose your number one center. Catherine Capris off next season.

What? Catherine Caprice off next season. So he can win something. He's taken to meet. And Merles, in classic Murals fashion, is like, yep, making $18 million next year. It was like, Merlis was ready. Now, what I said was these poor Wild fans, you lose your number one center, you lose an incredible top four defensive defensemen.

Then I got, well, all of a sudden I got Dallas Stars fans coming at me and I respect them. They're like, well, we didn't have our number one center. And we had one of our best defensemen battle and injury. And then abs fans are coming at me. Well, we have our number one defenseman injured. And I guess that is good points. like everyone battles injuries. But for Minnesota, it just was such a different feeling.

I mean, the way Eric Sinek got hurt in the final game against Dallas comes back, I'm like, oh, I think we were streaming that game or we were at least chatting all of us. And I was like, thank God he came back because they got him for the while. The next one, pretty impressive that he was able to come back and play in that game six, because obviously he was mangled. Now, Brodine, I don't really know. I'm sure we'll find out today or tomorrow what the injuries were. But, Mur, would you say?

they're not frauds. Like, are you going to continue that they're frauds? Well, I'm happy to see that you guys are understanding how crazy these wild fans are. Yes. But let me give you a little definition of consumer fraud. Deceiving customers through false claims,

such as selling a defective product as high quality. High quality is not Eric King's Eck is not a high quality number one centerman. Can we agree on that? High quality number two. Yes. So they don't have a number one centerman.

And then second of all, Okay, so let me ask you this. So would you say that he's better or stame as like a Dylan Larkin? Like where do you put him? Yeah, I put him in there. So you're saying that Dylan Larkin. So you're saying that Dylan Larkin. Stanley Cup winning team centerman.

Okay. Where I put him there. So every statement you give we're able to maybe question. That's it. That's all I'm going to do. All right. Next up is when you're trying to rely on two players, two defensemen to play the entire game for you.

It just, it doesn't build team camaraderie, number one, when you're relying on two guys that heavily. And then you just can't last that long in a playoff series, playing guys 30 minutes and expecting them to do everything. So for context to, before game five was played, Quinn Hughes was averaging 2957 throughout the series. And I believe that Brock Faber was averaging about just a minute below that. first and second in the second round

far and above as far as average ice time lug and it was 10 minutes more than the third defenseman on the Minnesota wild. Counterpoint. Counterpoint. Pronger, Niedemeyer, Anaheimai, Ducks. The size of those two compared to the size of the two we're talking about. I would say Niedemeyer and Faber are the same

and then you're just saying you're missing your pronger. Okay. I'm just going to look for counterpoints here. Next one up, and I'm telling you, I talk about the team and the chemistry and how you build a team and we've been through it with Sidney Crosby. If I make less, then everybody's got to make less if you want to win. Matthew Kachuk went down to Florida, did the same thing. If you want to win, Barkov, you want to make less. Everybody's got to make less. During the season, Caprisov goes and signs for $17 million.

Nobody needs to be making $17 million. And it just, it just, it doesn't feel right. team. If some guy's making 750, I got this guy making 17 million. And then he's fraudulent for 17 million dollars, even though we've never seen someone make that much. One shot

in game four, zero shots in game five, puck on his stick to win the game in overtime, passes it off. That is not a $17 million player. Wow. I mean, KK, so I did a breakdown during one of the intermissions.

Like, I thought he played pretty well. Like he did a lot of good things. Like he was boxing out defensively. Like he made that play along the wall, got an assist on the first goal. I believe led the team in points in playoffs. Like what did he finish with as far as points? Probably like 13, 14 points. So it's not like he was like invisible. I do agree that 17 is a is a very high number. It's like almost like you're saying the precedent was set so it kind of make things awkward like for the playoff run where it's like Now you're really kicked in the dick because it kicks in next year. I will say 15 points at 11 games.

Correct me, Mur. Is it not even personal to Caprice off? It's like nobody should be making 17 million. No, yeah, nobody. Like you got Sidney Crosby making 8.7 million. He's the perfect hockey player. That is the argument that. McDavid even just took less.

And he's the most skilled hockey player. So it just ruins the balance of a team. It's all about a team. You hear all these quotes coming out from the avalanche. They got 16 different guys that scored goals. It's all about team stats. It just, it doesn't create a team atmosphere. When one guy's making 17 million,

and then you have two guys playing 35 minutes basically every night. It's got to be a team. You got to pay guys extra to go to Minnie, no? I don't know. I think Minnie's a hell of a place to play hockey. Yeah, great hockey town. Got an awesome GM to play for. And costs a living there, 17 million.

You can buy up every leering center in the fucking state. Now, here's the thing is that. Imagine the commercial real estate play you could have with $17 million. Jesus Christ. If he just took 14 and a half, it's like, oh, my God. You know, you got, what is it, three and a half or two and a half million more for a player. So I get that. I just look at, I think it was, I think they were a hell of like a team.

When you look at their. And by the way, we're talking wild first because of the storyline and the expectations and what went on this year. We're going to pump Colorado. But in terms of the wild, like, they did seem very cohesive. They had the Polino brothers. They loved each other.

They loved each other. And it was just everyone hits injuries. But for me, I'm looking at it. It's like, that is a different series with those two guys playing. Now, is that a stupid argument? Because, like, every single team's going through this, maybe. But I'm not looking at the Wild as, like, a fraudulent team. I don't know.

Maybe I'm just a Billy Garon Homer. I think they can fix it. It's fixable. Like they have the pieces, obviously. If they can keep Quinn Hughes, he is a complete stud, Faber, complete stud, Caprisov. Like, I don't know what they're going to do with Zook, but if you can get a center, maybe two, another D-Man, maybe a couple guys that can move a little better. And I love Bogosian and Middlest, what is this? Middleton.

Middleton. Like, I love those guys, but you might have to get a little bit faster and a little bit younger. to kind of go on these runs. But I think it's right there, especially with Billy G at the helm. He's a guy that can get guys to come there. He can go out and make trade. So I think it's a successful year for Minnie.

I don't think they were going to win it this year. I knew obviously beating Dallas was big, but Dallas was beat up. And, you know, it's just one of those years. You're playing Colorado, who's such a wagon right now. Like, no one was going to beat them. Okay, Biz. Let me ask you this then.

The wild fans, I've seen a couple. couple people pretty upset that Billy G didn't pay for what it was going to cost to get Tro check over. And I think the ask was outrageous from Chris Drury. What do you think in terms of like, I can't pay that right? Do you know what I mean? Like that's a tough one. I think the last thing I would be doing right now is, is criticizing anything Billy G did because

he made them. So Merle's like you would say that he didn't make. them a contender because I think if that that line if that lineup's healthy I think they could could have brought abs the distance like I don't want to it sucks a single of guy out but like middleton playing top four D minutes he's a number six on a Stanley Cup winning team like because of the Brodine injury like that was that that was a very forgettable series for him I felt bad for I felt terrible and tying goal the the winning goal like around the net like he could he could Nate just takes the corner around the net.

He's turning like an 18 wheeler. Like I would be too. I mean, fuck. You know, I, I think Billy did everything he can do. Like, I mean, the Falino brothers were the best line of McCarron. That was their best players. But there's no first line centerman out there. Right.

So like what else? What was he going to do? But that's why they weren't set up to win. You got to have the first line center. Got to have the second line center. Look at everybody that keeps winning. So that. Vegas.

Edmonton has two first line centers. They still can't win. Carolina. So that's where it's going to be tough moving forward with Capri Sof making what he makes. It's like what type of first. Like let's say Matthews, let's just throw out that name. If you are able to afford him and throw him in the mix

at making 13 and a half for the next two years and slide him in there with Erickson Neck playing the two slot, that is a, that is a Stanley Cup contending team. That's a top 14 league with that back end and having two great goalies, and I think that they're both locked in for pretty good numbers. So that was, but going back to like Billy G

and maybe not doing that at the deadline, maybe this year wasn't the time too. And overpaying for that trocheck now, he's probably looking, fuck Colorado is this big of a wagon right now. Like, why would I leverage the future that bad? I don't know. Because the argument would be,

and the main storyline to me is not Capri-Saw, deal. It's like, can you get Quinn Hughes signed? And if you can't, and he leaves, like, they could, they could be in one. Like, you watch that guy. I mean, he was, he's the best player. Yeah, Boldie's incredible and Walshatt had moments and I love favor, but you take Quinn Hughes off that team. If he decides not to sign there, like, they're in one. So they have 13 and a half million come this off season to spend. Who do they must have to lock in a few more guys. But we can, do you have the guys who they have to resign? I do not have that.

Probably Zuccarello is one of them, right? Yeah, he is. They got to re-sign Teresanico, Falino, Zucarillo, McCarren, Johansen. And you mean Nick Falino? Because Marcus is locked in at a good, a pretty reasonable deal. That's a lot of guys.

How about Nick Colino, though? Two goals, 38 years old. I mean, let's get it to the game five. And obviously, we streamed game four. It's like, feels like two weeks ago. Boys, they came out. I was like, I actually texted you guys. I'm like, this team deserves a lot of credit.

Like the balls they're shown in this game. I also mentioned, and Keith, I think you said, Landisog might have said, winning game five at home up 3-1. It's so hard to do. It feels like, like, you know, there's all the pressure. You want to end it.

You're at home. Don't want to fly back to Minnie or whatever other city it is. And they're down 3-0. Minnesota, the perfect period. I mean, the pass by Boldie to Johansson. By the way, he makes 900. What a deal that guy, Marcus O'Hanson. So then they keep coming.

They keep coming and Falino and they stopped playing hockey. How many times have we seen? They went L.A. Kings on us. Why? Is it, is it, I don't think it's like coaching where the coaches are like sit back. It's like a mentality of, all right, we have enough goals. When I think you're playing something like Colorado, you've got to be like, we need five. Merles, you said it on the chat.

You're like, if they don't get another one, this thing's done. And I was like, what? Yeah, I guess it, I mean, you end up being right. Yeah. I know my abs boys. And what happened was I was actually at my nephew's birthday party last night for the first period. So I'm a loser. I didn't wear my jersey over there.

That's why. I watched the first period. I come back over here. I, like you, Biz with the goathead, I threw the jersey on. And I actually poured a little glass of rouge. You know, the abs colors, color color. put the jersey on glass of ruse, boom, boom, boom, tie game. Have they called you and thank you yet?

I'm still waiting for my watch from number 29 for giving them the shirt. Oh, man. I mean, you go back to that, the play that the first shift of the game, Boldie, that when he goes to the backhand and he banks it off the ball to himself, Nelson, hook line and sinker, and that backhand pass to Johansson, who was covering for Quinn Hughes. after they scored that one and I was like, oh, okay,

they're coming out like game three right now. This is going back to Minnie. And then all of a sudden they get the fucking, the grinders chipping in offensively with Nick Falino having two tucks. I'm like, okay, we're for sure going back. But when did they get that first goal? It was it Parker Kelly who tipped it with the fruit ninja slice?

Yeah. It was like nine minutes left in the second around. So let's talk about Kulak. And Edzo pointed this out on the broadcast. There's a bit of a doggie pile along the wall. So if you're, if you're, let's say you're going north, south angle and you're behind Minnesota's net, your bottom right corner. There's like three guys from each team digging away, digging away.

And you could even see, Edzo points it out, the ref kind of gets closer to the pile. And you know how they're like, keep it moving, keep it moving. So instead of blowing it, eventually it comes loose. And as that was happening, Kulak starts backing up and he gets kicked to him. it opens up that lane D to D and then they send a sifter in. And going back to that and the second goal, those are those are world class tips. Who had the second one?

Was it Drury? Yeah. Did he tipped that or did it hit his, hit his leg? I thought he tipped it like with his stick like basically between his legs. Tipped it. Like his big shalong was hanging down like Barry during COVID. And mind you, like Lekin is not playing either.

We haven't mentioned that. So I think the Aves fans are like, shut up about injuries. Shut your mouth, Whitney, you dumb big ears. We got plenty of injuries. One of our best playoff players, Lekin isn't playing. And McCar's shoulders hanging by a thread. He still played 25 minutes in that game. Now, he's dealing with a couple things, I think, with.

Well, I was, well, we talked about when he was rubbing the stuff on his left hip, but I think it is mainly the right shoulder. Okay. That's what he missed time with after the hit from, was it Klepka? What's the guy's name on Calgary? Oh, the big dinosaur? Yeah, he hit him. He got the right shoulder.

He missed the little time. Obviously, that looked very innocent with Zuccarello right to the locker room. So he's battling something. But let's get into the third goal. The still images that people are posting of the open net McKinnon missed in the Olympics. And then where Walsh, Wollst that is on this goal, is very funny. I got, yeah, Middleton, I don't know what he's doing.

Biz, you already said it, you know, you don't want to carve a guy. He's kind of cover an air, maybe give a little pressure. But at the same time, like, Walsatz, he's sitting back in his net. And then I think even he said maybe I went down a little early. I don't think that goal can go in. I don't think that that goal, like great shot right by his right ear. But you got to challenge the shooter. I don't know shit about goaltending, but am I crazy?

No, especially when Middleton's taking away pass. Like, he's low. Some teams run things differently. Like, I remember Mike Smith would be like, just take away the far pass. I got anything short side. So maybe that's how they play. But if the defenseman's taken away that passing lane, he's got to be standing up looking at him at least. Like a wrist shot.

And I know it's Nate, he's got great deception. He's stick handling and then just like gets it there and puts it in a tiny area. I think the goal he's got to be out and challenging that shot. If you get beat backdoor by a pass, then you almost got to blame the demon on that. I think that that is like a microcosm of what we saw in the last two periods. You see Walshstad battling and playing in his own end and having to be in a squat position the entire time.

And it's six on five. And all of a sudden you have to go post to post. It gets put weak side to McKinnon. and when he gets it, I get why Middleton holds there, but that strong side forward drops down and takes away that pass. So like you said,

Whit, he's covering air. If he goes in pressures, McKinnon's got to move and or get rid of that thing right away. He doesn't. So McKinnon's able to wait, wait,

sometimes when the goalie comes over and his momentum's it, you're kind of just like waiting, and then eventually you finally drop because you got no energy left because you've been in a squat position the last two periods, stopping pucks because the ice been tilted. So it's just a microcosm of everything that happened as far as sitting back

and basically playing L.A. King's hockey for two periods. That's what they did. That's what they did. Go ahead. It also shows like the skill set of Nate because as a D-Man, you see him like baiting you in almost. You're like, if I go out to him, he's going to put me in the spin cycle and beat me to the net or if I don't.

So he's like just with how good he is as a defense. you're thinking like this guy can do whatever he wants and then at the end of the day he's in no man's land covering it. The way his stick was down, it's like he's saucing it over that anyways if he wants to. I think that when the Minnesota fan leaked that video of him doing the pool, it was inevitable that that moment

was going to happen. Yeah. Minnesota Wilde made their own bed with their PI. Same one who was with that Diana Rusini following them around was the guy who was in the hotel in Minnesota film. Really? Yeah, same one. That's what I'm hearing, at least, from TMZ.

The Wilder. I don't dig, though. I don't dig. The Wilder, the first team in NHL, this is opta stats, first team in NHL history to have a three plus goal lead at the first intermission of a playoff game, but then have fewer than 10 shots on goal the rest of the way and end up losing. Yeah. Seven shots in the second, four in the third, zero and overtime.

And here's the thing. So McKinnon scores, and I'm like, They may win this thing in regulation. Like it was so dominant. I'm like, all right, well, here we could. What would they have a minute and a half left? And then they get out of the third period. I'm like, okay, go regroup, get your legs back.

And what happens for a shift of overtime? You got Scott. I almost said Scott McCarran, the PJ senior tour golfer. Michael McAran. He looked like that with a back swing. Buddy, I felt, I mean, like, I think, you just got to stop that with your back end. This is happening so quick.

I would have whiffed and I'd probably fallen over, but I'm like, oh, my God. And at this point, he's centering Boldie. So it's like, that's part of the depth and the injuries. And you're like, oh, my God, the guy had the game on his stick. He whiffs. And then after that, it was all Colorado. I was like, oh, my God, they have nothing again.

Like, it's not like intermission helped him. I thought that first shift and that chance they're going to see, all right, minnie's back. Nope. And I've never been watching an overtime more. and been like, well, this thing's done. Now, a lot of times that happens in OT, and then the other team gets a dirty one,

and like the team dominating loses. That one, it was just, it was over. And Mur, you brought up the Capri Sov play. You hated the past that much. Oh, I hated the past. Yeah, you could see that it was getting taken away. And you're the $17 million guy. Come in and rip it.

But it's, I think, Manson made such a good play. He was back checking. And a lot of guys, like the D-Men will just stay, closer to the shooter, but Manson was pointing at Kulak to take the far side, and he did, and Manson was able

to at least get close enough to him to force him to make that pass or shoot it, and he made the pass, and Kulak was already over, so I think Manson made the play of the game they're telling, he's coming back, yelling, pointing, go wide, go wide, and he did, and it was a great heads-up play by him. I sent it to the video,

to the group chat, and I agree with Army, that's a dry-sidal swipe. You just swipe. bet that one. You know what I'm saying? McCarrens? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. McCarins, like the first chance over from Boldie. I don't even think you need to stop that thing. I think Dreisat saying it's a dry style swipe makes it sound like he's like one of what

four guys that can do it? What? Just swipe, just fucking go like that. He's saying no hide back swing. Buddy, he fucking, he brought it back like a slap shot. Like Scott McCarran. And then he toliped. Just literally just like just boom, just swipe it through.

Like where it was. You know, you don't need a big back swing like two feet and then just swipe. Swipe away like a bubble hockey stick. Going back to the winner. I mean, like you said, Jans, between the communication of Manson and Kulak and Kulak getting a stick on that. And then it goes back to the depth guys. I think it was Parker Kelly who ends up fucking putting his head up. He knew.

NACIS must have came off the bench then. You don't know. Did you see what happened? He must. NACCHIS realized there was only four abs on the. ice, not called up, just hopped on the ice. Crazy. He was just like, oh my God, we only have

four and just went. Nice. Bednar never tapped him. No, no. There was a total miscommunication and Nate just realized, oh, we only got four and just hopped. He thought Caprisoff was going to put it in the back of the net and didn't want to eat the minus. And then he saw Kulak

God and he's like, I'm fucking going. I'm going now, bitches. And but for Parker Kelly to just send that and send them on. And, And then Middleton, he's probably like, my God, I got a deal with it. Last guy. Last guy. I got a fresh Natchez, and he's going to turn the corner on a dime.

And I got to go 18 wheeler status. And he finds Kulak back door. And shout out to fucking Drury on that one, too, buddy. Middle Lane Drive pushes that D right off of the net. And part of the Cs. And he puts it in the open net. Unbelievable sequence. I like how NACIS didn't, like, I feel like nowadays guys turn up with that,

especially like at like the top of the circle where nature just just kept going around the net because they knew he had the Winnebago chase chasing him. So it's like he just kept he kept going. But if you turn up there, you give the back checker's time to get back and then you're making a play. He goes around the net and then it's just chaos. Chaos. And he finds this guy and it was great shot too. Great goal. Here's a stat for you.

Nathan McKinnon has scored a goal in 46.2% of his career playoff games. 48 goals and 104 games played tied with Craig Simpson 31 goals and 67 games played which is at 46% for the third highest rate in NHL history behind Mario Lemieux and Mike Bossy

How many guys shoot that puck that Nate just like dished over to Kulak too? So I think that it bibles off this stick ever so slightly and that forces them not to shoot it. If you go watch it, when he rounds the net, it looks like he's about to make a play on his forehand, and he loses control just a little bit.

And I think by that time, then Kulak comes in sight and he finds him. I might be crazy and just seeing shit. We're not able to replay the goals on here until Gary Bettman gives us permission, which that's why I'm wearing the NHL bucket for, see if we can get him on our good side. I'm going to watch it one more time and see,

uh, see if that's true. What about? We got to talk about the goalie change. good move by Benner. It sparked the whole thing. That the wedgy chance at the end, too. Oh, was there? Wedgy chance at the end of the game so you know who they want.

Kind of felt bad for Blackwood a little bit. I mean, they're moving on. And the way things are going, the current NHL, we probably see him again. Oh, he played incredible in game four. Unbelievable. Like game four was the other than the OT. That was the closest game, right? It was 5-2N, 2-2-2-2, but yeah, it's 2-2 with 10 minutes left.

The one that he kicked out with the left pad when it was coming back to the crease. There was a lot of plays in and around the post area where he stayed strong. He looked agile. Hey, it wasn't his night, but you're going to, when they won it last time, buddy, it was, it was, it was Kemper and then who's the backup who came in and played well, Frant-Sos. So, I think the sticks in the lane and he, like, somewhat bribles it. but then pushes the pocknages. So he didn't bobble it that bad,

but he just, he didn't have the opportunity to shoot with, with, yeah, when he rounded when Middleton was kind of back in his kitchen after turn and the Winnebago, as the aunt said. Also,

I need to clear something up. A lot of people, I don't know why they don't understand it yet, but you gave us the stat that they've never, uh, clinched a series at home in 18 years. Crazy. So I immediately put that up on Twitter when it went three nothing.

To do the reverse much. and I got all these avalanche people. How'd that one age? Nice take. Old takes as opposed. Like, guys, did that all for a reason. You don't get my life yet, but, yeah. Welcome to the party. Welcome to the Merle's world.

Merle's leaves that series having two fan bases wanting them dead. Yeah, he didn't even stay for cake for his nephew's birthday. Yeah, so, I mean, as we wrap up this series, everyone was expecting for, you know, more games, no doubt, but

my thought is like I don't see Colorado losing. I don't, I, how are you going to beat them? Maybe if McCar is too banged up, I mean, I know Vegas has a chance to end their series tonight. That I think would be an amazing series,

but I thought this one would be too. And now if they don't have Mark Stone and I just think the depth on Colorado, we haven't even mentioned Ross Colton. You see that hit he put on Quinn Hughes. He buries them, he punches him in the face. It's like they got a bunch of nasty guys.

they got guys who can fly they backtrack like maniacs it's similar i feel like they're similar to carolina and how they play energy wise with more skill now that series could be incredible if somehow they meet in the cup final but colorado is a complete wagon and at this point i don't see anyone beating them

wasn't ross colton the center in tampa i don't he was a fourth line guy there for quite a bit right but it's like for them it's like you build through the middle the ice. Like if he's playing wing, like a guy that is the center, like good for them for having all those guys. Oh yeah. Minnesota could have used a guy like that. I mean, I mean, Molinsky is he coming back? It's like if they get him back and like Nelson hasn't even woken up yet. He hasn't really done much. And then I got to say when it was three nothing and they're going back to mini, I said, you know what they got to do? They're going to have to let

Nachushkin out of the Baza for one. Yeah, I got him out. I agree. I need him. go and he's only got one goal. So I think maybe on this break, they might have to let him out for one night and see if that can spark him. But it's a slippery slope with him. You think? Yeah, it's worth taking, though. Definitely a slope. Definitely a slope.

Well, Colorado, any other thoughts on what we witnessed, boys? Are we ready to move on? I think that from Quinn Hughes's comments, like it looks promising that he would consider a future in a life in Minnesota. And you talk about needing centermen. If New Jersey doesn't clean things up, I could, I could much rather see Jack going there

than them going to New Jersey. I'll put it that way. The rumor being that Quinn signs, what I think three-year extension would make them both UFAs at the same time. If that happens, I think it's panic time with the devils because then it's like,

oh my God, they're going to be making sure. together and they could go anywhere. Like that, you know, if you see Quinn sign a long-term deal there, yeah, I mean, he's not going to New Jersey, but it doesn't necessarily mean Jack's going to Minnesota. If they're both finishing as a UFA the same year,

it's game on. I'll promise you this. Jack's going to Minnesota before Quinn's going to New Jersey. That's a fact. No, Pasha's probably losing his mind back there, but without Pasha hopping on, there will be consequences. next season if the New Jersey Devils do not make playoffs.

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And did they get one of the luckiest bounces I've ever seen? Yes. But man, no quit. And they end up winning a game that I like both these teams a lot. Same. I think we all do. they won a game in which they didn't just beat the Canadians. They beat the refs.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And I got Canadians fans telling me you're full of shit. You don't know what you're talking about. Look at this cross check. They're ruthless. Look at this cross check on Caulfield that wasn't called. And I never, the diving from the Canadians the other night guys.

There was a little bit going on for sure. A little bit going on there, business. So why don't you take it away from your takeaways from game four on a, electric game for though. Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess if we're talking about that specifically,

I thought that Goulet went down very, very easy on the Tage Thompson little cap cross check. And then sure enough, Coffield ended up making it 2-1 after that. So you had a team in Buffalo who I thought drastically outplayed Montreal in the first period and all of a sudden they're going into the locker room down. Right?

So, but like, I think that that bounce that they got was the hockey gods rewarding them for sticking with it, playing through it, and figuring things out. And of course, on his 21st birthday, Benson ends up getting the winner in front of the net. Now, I don't want to take full credit for the victory, but they were getting no puck luck, no saves, no calls.

Their special teams were dog shit. And then it came to my head after some Sabre fans thought I was rooting against him. I said, I'm not rooting against you. I'm not rooting against Montreal either. What I'm rooting for is a seven game series because, like you said, Whit, I love both. these teams. I want to see one more game in Montreal. I want to see game seven in Buffalo. Could you imagine? Like what are what are the blade gang? What kind of tricks do they have up their sleeve if we go

seven with Montreal? How many how many Montreal Canadiens fans are we going to see in the lower ball? There's so many questions to be answered if we do get seven games. And I can't say all, every single call has gone Montreal's way. I thought that Malenstein running over Dobish was like, that was, that was pretty egregious. Like that was, yeah, I more meant game four, not the entire series. No doubt, but definitely game four, they were getting hosed. They were getting the rubber fist up the hoop.

And, and Buffalo prevailed. So I'm just happy this thing's tied up to two, too. And, and yeah, overall, boys, it's, it's electric series. I think, I think everybody had this going seven before it even started, right? and we need seven more than we need oxygen. This series has been awesome. Josh Stone has been incredible. The play that he made over to Benson on that goal,

the first play that he made coming in on their first goal, who it was Samuelson. He comes over the blue line, loses control, but still has the puck, makes a pass over to Norris. And then the play that he makes to Benson, Benson, and unbelievable hands. Like to do that that tight with bodies around you,

get it up that quick. the kid's a stud what did you say his jersey is the number one selling jersey in the NHL right now I think now no I think I said once uh Porter Martone and Zegris are eliminated now I think that his is going to be it's been selling like hot cakes in Buffalo I think it's the number one jersey going in Buffalo oh I got a phone call boys oh I got a phone call might be wait not only did they beat the HABs and the refs they also beat the ESPN announcers I don't know if you had that volume on. But those guys, they're trying to say Dahlene was scratching an old cut to get the blood out.

I took that as a like, I thought that was kind of tongue and cheek. I think it was McDonough, right? Like, I didn't, I didn't think he was seriously saying that. And then Dave Jackson agreeing with every call when Goulet throws himself at Dahlene on the power play, throws himself,

then lays on the ice. Like, you got to disagree and say, oh, they should have called embellishment there or only embellishment. We know the real reason why the fucking Habs lost. We haven't addressed. Rear Admiral comes out of the dungeon to go to this first game of the year and decides to go up to my team, the Montreal Canadiens, in their own building. I said it as soon as he came on the last stream, I said, yes, the Montreal Canadians

and I go, well, they're losing next game. There was no chance they were winning that game. So Montreal had to beat the Sabres, not the reps, but RA, and they couldn't do it. But I'm praying, praying he goes to Buffalo to put on, he'll put on a Buffalo hat and root for them. So I'm praying he goes to Buffalo and Montreal can get a win on the road. I want to talk about the no goal. It was Jack Quinn, correct? And that kid, Mer, is it?

Hellenius. What is it? They were saying it weird on the broadcast, but I can't trust anything. Everybody knows who we're talking about. Let's call him Heleneas. Young Finn. What the hell was he doing, not playing? Where the hell is this guy been?

What's he been just black acing the entire playoffs? This guy, he looked electric. So he drives the net. I mean, if you have a 10-minute review, that's where it's like we got it. I don't, can we figure this out somehow? Well, the original review was whether the puck in his glove had actually crossed the line.

But I knew it. the line way sooner than they did. And so did you. You saw white in between the puck and the goal line in his glove. Fair. Right? Fair. Now, okay, forget the goaltender interference call.

Have you seen the view of where Heleneas is skating at? Jack-I cross checks him directly in the temple. I don't know how that didn't get called. That was where I think Buffalo fans, once they saw that, they're losing their mind. because they end up with a penalty, no goal, and a cross-check to the head of this new young stud who was flying around like McKinnon, and he hadn't even been in the lineup.

So that's where I was like, this might not be their night. Like this series, I don't, this is like, it was like the old magic of the Montreal Canadians back in the 70s. He was also out there at the end of the game to ice the game. Usually when a guy comes in that hasn't played, he's not out there the last minute or two of the game,

but these Finns, Merles, know, like they're fucking solely responsible. So I got a hand, I got to hand up my acalpa here, okay? So they were calling Martin St. Louis. It was called a goal because it clearly crossed the goal line. So then Martin St. Louis says, I want to challenge for goalie interference. Oh, your video. There's discrepancy on Heleneas and whether he was pushed in and interfered and vice versa.

I thought regardless of that, if you're watching that and you're going over goalie interference for a goal scored. Can we not agree on when Quinn backhands that puck in the net on the follow-through, he hits Dolbush's glove and pushes it in the net? I will disagree with you. I won't. I'm with you on this. It's clear that he pushes his glove back.

It's clear. I know. And maybe the rule states it doesn't matter, but I'm not looking at that as a purposeful or on purpose. It doesn't matter. It's not a high stick. It was so innocent to follow through of it where I thought I didn't, I was like, wow, I'm surprised.

I didn't even know they were checking the Hellenians. Let me ask you a question. If the puck's sitting in the crease, right, and the goalie's pad is before it, and you go and you make direct contact with the puck to jam it in, and it pushes his pad back, what do they deem it? It's no goal, but are you talking about, okay, are you talking about spearing at the puck?

buddy you're you're that's it's you're you're you're pushing the puck into the net regardless if it's a if it's a shot you're trying to push the object into the net okay so when he does that if he if he if he shoots that backhand and he doesn't touch his gloves and the the i mean keep in mind the velocity of that little backhand is not going to push his glove back in that like that that's not going to happen what did it is the fact that when he follows through the follow through hits his glove right here, and it pushes his glove into the net. To me, that's no goal.

So that's what I'm saying. But have you saying, but have they said that that would have been a goal, like without the Hellenius bumping into him? Like, that's what they were reviewing. I understand that you're reviewing goaltender interference was the goalie interfered with for the puck to cross the line.

So obviously they ended up deeming it where Heleneas was the one who, they thought he was the, one who initiated contact by going through the crease, regardless of you who's pushed by Jackeye. What I'm saying is, is if I'm video reviewing that, and I'm saying, okay, let's look for Heleneas here, it's kind of a 50-50, but it's like, oh, well, Quinn Hughes backhands that and hits his glove into the net, that's the goal of interference. That is it right now.

If you're saying, oh, if I'm Martin St. Louis, I have to deliberately challenge whether it's Hellenius or not. Yeah, I think you do. Yes. You have to. Okay. Well, then if that's bring in Dave Jackson. Let's bring in Dave.

Let's bring in Dave. That's what the refs say going. Yeah, that's going interference, guys, no doubt. Yeah, you have to, you have to tell them which, which play it is. They come over and ask you, are you challenging this one or this one? So it's a ballsy call, but it could have been on both of them. So you have to sit. I'm wondering.

If they said no interference on lenius, could he have challenged again? No, you lose your challenge. All right. So, so that's what, that's what made. me think we've seen a ton of spearing at the goalie's pad and yes no goal the pad was pushed it and the glove was pushed in that to me was just like it was like the follow barely any follow through of the of a soft backhander and i was like oh that's not enough to say he pushed his glove can you can you agree that that that the velocity of that backhand if he doesn't touch his glove

is not enough to like like it's not like you're going like that from a slap shot it's a fucking little, like he's just swiping at it from the backhand. It would just go in his glove. It wouldn't push his glove back in the net. And the goalie's arms extended be so hard, like a little tap is going to move it back. So, so regardless of all the

release that came out, Heleneas is the one who interfere with him, I think overall that goal should not have counted for the reason that the goal he was interfered with and the puck was pushing. Buffalo fans will scream till that's fine, but the hockey gods took care of them in the end.

So did I by throwing on the goat head. I'm not, I'm not hopping on the bandwagon. I'm not. I just did you guys a solid because I thought you deserved it. You just want game seven. So Rhonda should be eating my fucking cornhole out when we get the buffalo. What do you mean? That's my wife.

I could talk about her any way I want to. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. Hey, by the way, by the way, Rhonda has reached out. Can I read, can I, I'm going to read you. Can't wait for the bachelor party?

I'm going to, oh, buddy. Oh, buddy. I was even going to dangle the camera. her it and tell all you Buffalo fans and the team that if you're able to get to the finals we don't have TNT this year. I will marry Rhonda in the Blade

Gang's backyard and we will the celebration of a lifetime for the first game of that series. Rhonda missed the net. What a wedding that would be. I'm going to read you what she wrote. I'm going to find it here. Well, Biz is looking at up, people.

We had Andrew Peters on game notes yesterday, former Buffalo Sabre Enforcer. He gave us some good inside scoops on everything that went on this year with the Sabres, what it's like playing for Lindy Ruff. So if you need something to do after listening to this, go over there and listen to PD. He's pretty funny.

What's he up to, Murrow's? He's got his podcast out there with Craig Raveh. So they're covering the Sabres. And, you know, he's just, he's living in Buffalo, living a clean life. It's a scary dude, man. We talked about when he fought Ray Emery and that whole brawl. They don't make the fighters like that anymore.

He was a huge man. Holy cow. He would throw the punches from back here. Yeah. She goes, I'll start it off. I'll back this up to Monday. Rhonda apologizes. We are loose cannons in Buffalo.

And obviously I sent the kiss emoji. What up? Hey, girl. What up? She goes, Rob's dead when I see him for calling me, Rhonda, a Tinder or bumble chick. I wrote ha, ha, ha, ha, obviously. And then after the game, she writes me right away. She goes, in capital letters.

Thanks for changing the Sabres luck last night, you sweet angel baby. Rhonda appreciates you. I wrote, of course, my love, anything for you. Stop doing like the sex voice. Is she calling herself Rhonda? You think she isn't legally changing her in fucking names? Went to the courthouse in a goadhead jersey and did it just because that's what Biz called her. And we described her last pod.

I looked at her profile, Bill's jersey, Bill's hats. It's like she is all in. If you don't think that the bill's cheerleaders will be there as her, what do you call the girls that hang out with the girls? Ridesmaids. And I'm going to have. The cheerleaders are called the Buffalo Jills. The Buffalo Jills will be there.

That's what they're called. They're all named Jill. Yeah. I'm going to have the blade gang as my groomsman. And fuck are we going to have a celebration if the boys can pull it out. I was so surprised that Montreal, uh, they got that four minute.

power play end of the second, right? And did it go into the third period? Yes. And they had the good ice. They had, I think they had. It was Bo Byram High Stick. Yeah. And they weren't able to get one there.

I was like, I had to go head on. That Benson play, though, just using his skate and then. Beautiful goal. And that kid, also shout out Newhawk, who's, this guy's on fire right now. He's playing amazing. Whoever, whoever made the call to make that trade should get a fire. fucking raise. Because to bring in a guy like that for what he's done because Slav hasn't been

great. Demadov hasn't been great or at least scoring. And Caulfield obviously just got one. What's he now he got two? But like to bring in a guy that can score depth that has the Stanley Cup pedigree, what an absolute steal of a trade? Slaff. We talk about the Gully dives. The Slaff one was, I mean, he looked like he got shot from the battle.

Who hit him? That play was, was it Thompson or was it the goalie? I think he got the goalie's butt end. The one where he just like laid. Yeah, but all of a sudden it was just like, but was that even a penalty? No, they didn't call it. They had enough of the diving and everything else.

They gave up on it. You guys think the boy that cried wolf because I had a guy saying that. He's like, oh, well, you missed that one? I'm like, you ever hear the story, the boy that cried wolf, you keep diving. Eventually they're going to think it's a dive. Lindy, Lindy rough tiptoed around it. and addressed it in a perfect way, like the veteran he is, there's no chance that they don't end up with the better end of the calls in game five at home.

That's what I was just going to say. No chance. So much you all better be prepared. The refs leave that game and they see a couple replays. And that pisses refs off, you know, because they end up kind of looking bad and they're like, fuck that. Like, I'm not, we're not giving them anything. Even if it's a different crew, it's like, we just saw a bunch of theatrics there in game four.

So you better be fighting through checks in game five. You noticed that in the Minnesota, Colorado game, because you know all the refs have the phone calls, there was, what, one power play each? So I like that about that game where they just let them play. And there was flow and everything. And I'm sure most of you people listening know this. Every series has a referee supervisor.

So after the game, you know Lindy Rough and the Buffalo Sabres are going, hey, listen, we won no hard, no, no, No hard feelings here, but watch those replays like Witt said, and all of a sudden they're going to be on high alert for Goulet and Slaff and whoever's flopping around for the Montreal Canadians, and it could come back to bite you in the ass. And they took care of their power plays. They went two for four, Buffalo and Montreal was 1007.

And I got to admit I was completely wrong, because I'm thinking game three, get UPL in there, get him used to the building, get him used to the crowd. They didn't. He was phenomenal. He was awesome. And to be able, it's just, I went on the, I mentioned you guys, I was going on the trap draw podcast. I did it yesterday.

A lot of hockey talk kind of teaching these guys, maybe a little bit. And they asked about goaltending and how now so many teams have two. And when we were all younger, it was just, you had a stud. And then if the stud had to, got injured or something, it was like, oh, no, our backup's coming in. Well, look at Colorado. Look at Buffalo now. I mean, Lion will probably play again if they somehow win this series and move on. It's just to have two guys

It's just so valuable on UPL Credit to him That was not an easy game to play No, no People forget UPL Turned the whole season around When he got caught out at that bar 40 thieves

And their record has just been ridiculous 36 and 2 or something ridiculous So the guys love him for flipping the season You knew he was going to come in and have a good game But there is something about this Montreal I don't know if it's their whole organization but we caught a clip of Army, who is a former Montreal Canadian.

He dove in the charity game yesterday. I saw that. I don't know if it's an organizational thing. Is it taught at all levels of Montreal Canadians? But Armdog is even diving now. The biggest walk you've ever seen. Bugs he gave him a little hook and he literally dove like it was a diving board.

Oh, no. Hey, Montreal is one of those buildings, though. You always knew you were going to get, you know, the raw end of the calls. Like I don't know if it's because the crowd gets so into it and gets on the rest, but you always knew going in, you were going to get the short end of the stick with the power plays. Yeah, they're good.

Guys, real quick, before we, before we move on to Vegas Anaheim, I feel like we kind of buried the lead in the first series. Nathan McKinnon will not take questions from biz in the scuba gear. Yeah, that was, he ended up taking some. He took one at the end. I saw his teeth. Without your nose, you're so different looking.

I was like, whoa. Like in a Michael Jackson type way. Oh, that's what his face looks like. In a Michael Jackson type way, you mean? You should do the Michael Jackson nose, dude. Get the kid, Anthony Kim. As he was saying no one just looks so miserable after just dominating another series and moving on. I was like, I think we might be blackballed.

He got him to smile, though. I saw his teeth for the first time. I mean, I'm just proud of getting. to see his teeth. He was, he cracked up. He came on and we had the monitor out for him. And I, once, once that video came out, I texted the producers. I said, I, I was like, fuck, if we get him pregame, should I do it? No, he would have been blank face. And I think he walked off. He would have walked off. Would not be, so it was the perfect time. He scores that tying goal. He was in the best mood ever. So I'm, I'm very thankful to the hockey gods for

also taking care of us in that regard. If you get, if you guys get the Western Conference finals and you guys stay at the same hotel you just got to spend all day in the pool waiting for him get all buddy oh buddy we're i was already you and ronda i was already thinking of a skit in my head if we can get wayne and panger involved they're going to have like those tanning things out the panger peptide tan going and i'm going to ask wayne to get in with the snorkeler and and maybe mckinin would be a part of it but probably not because it's playoffs and they have one goal in mind he also had to get it out there he's like uh there was 10 other guys in the pool like i snap me at the end. He was like, I'm throwing

everyone. I was not the only guy in the pool. I think he mentioned pro preception is a part of it. I was like, wow. What's pro preception? No clue. No clue. I might not even be saying the right word. He said some word that begins with a P about what he gets done in the pool. And he's like, it was 10 minutes. Basically, shut the

fuck up, is put an NHL hat on. I don't know if you guys follow. If you guys follow Twitter. I don't know if I'm allowed to show it, but I'll show it anyway right here on my phone. But Montreal is taking a page out of McKinnon's playbook. So they're in the pool. Oh, wow.

Okay. The diving team. I saw an AI image of the forum. I think it was Suzuki was one of them, although I don't think he's Dover or he's not a diver. And I haven't seen Hudson dive. No, no. How about Hudson skating for that loose puck?

Dude, that was incredible. Oh, my God. I think someone texted the group chat. Jesus Christ, Hudson. Me, yeah. He looked like one of the guanons. that just fly across the water. How about that save?

We didn't bring up that save UPL made on Caulfield. I was like, was that, that was game four, right? Was that game three? Yeah. Yeah, because UPL played, yeah, four. Oh, that was, I mean, that's, that's a goal. Caulfield gets a one-time dish like that. It's like it's in the net.

That was, I know it kind of hit him, but still incredible to get a cross and get a piece of that one. So two more things. Need a little bit more from Owen power. Not, not saying he's been playing horrible. Just a little fucking. meaner and because of the shit show in game three in game two them getting bullied around Luke Shen gets put in the lineup he played seven minutes not a ton but fucking stick taps for him man and I I didn't think that that Montreal was nearly as physical and there

wasn't as much bullshit as there was in the two prior game so I don't know if that was necessarily a deterrent I don't know if there was any conversation that happened at the red line or maybe in the midst of the game but nice to see shenner getting the lineup and uh and then pull out a victory. Yeah, I had it in my notes. Owen Power, I think it was his first shift of the game. He's in on the four check. So he's gone 200 feet and he doesn't finish the check.

He curls and comes back. Might as well run him at that point. You're 6-4. You're already there. Go run the guy. Yeah. But yes, I love that. I love you shout out those the lineup changes they made. Lindy Ross, Seth,

that was called at one point, I think, in Pittsburgh, the Whitney. You know, 6-4 defenseman caught up ice, doesn't even hit the guy. as well do something and then chasing back a two-on-one in the position. If you could put half of Jack-Eyes like squirreliness and intensity and physically into power, I think you, fuck, you might have Chris Pronger. He should literally live with prongs for a summer and just be like, okay, man, how do I hate everybody? How do I be so mean? How do I?

Like, because he's got it. He's got all the tools. You've got to be more than a minute cruncher out there. I couldn't believe Montreal lost. Did you see Jack-Eyes? gear walking in. Do you see his fit? No. He's always got the fun outfits. They got some guys in that deal. He looked

phenomenal. He looked phenomenal. I got to be honest with you. I don't know if we could find that. But the one other series going on, boys, Vegas Anaheim, the Vegas Golden Knights, and Pavel Dorofiev. What a game by this kid.

Now, once again, I'll remind everyone our guy, Liam Blutman, said he cannot play in the playoffs. Word for word, bar for bar. This guy can't playing the playoffs. What does he have seven goals now? And his first goal of the game, one of the best defensive plays I've seen in the playoffs. I think Kreider thought he was kind of alone and he's going up by his possible odd man rush. Doofiev lifts the stick. Then he brings it to the middle, complete snipe. And the OT winner, he batted that thing out of midair. I couldn't

tell him. And then you see the replay. That goal, once you see a replay, was way more impressive than what you thought happened live. the pads. Oh, so, yeah, you think, I think, I think, I think, I think he was trying to score that one, but that's not a POP. The mixer, throw it to the mixer.

Good things will happen. I think he owes me a commish. But takeaways from that game, once again, Anaheim, man, they dominated a lot of that game. I think early on, the Vegas looked way better,

and then all of a sudden, here comes Anaheim, and here's a stat that kind of rattles me, because I'm wanting seven in this series. Vegas is, I think they're, five and all in their careers of franchise when winning game five

will tide 2-2 and in each one they've actually closed it out in 6. So that's exactly what they did to Utah. So it's like if Vegas is going to keep rolling in it like they have in their past, they're going to get it done in game 6 and Anna-I should have bet

my life on Vegas and 6. I knew it was coming. And the paling loss, concussion, we can get into that hit. That hurts. because if they're thin anywhere, I think they're a little thin up the middle. And that just puts their sentiment on a bit of an island. Leo's a young guy.

He's lugging a lot of minutes right now. They have Washy and then who's the other guy that would be in the middle there? Like who's another guy who's going to have to step up and play for Anaheim with paling out? The fact that you guys don't even have a name ready is exactly all you need to know. Where's McTavishman playing? They could use him to step up his game. I think he would be exposed in the middle of the ice right now. He's not ready.

He looked good last game. I thought he played better last game because he played with a little bit more snarl. Yeah, I think he was a healthy, the game prior, or at least has been in the series. My issue with McTavish is just consistency. Like sometimes, like, he'll be great. And other times you're like, oh, fuck, is that biz out there? But, yeah. Vegas did this too with against Utah.

Like, Utah looked dominant at times. Like, they looked like they were the better team. just might be the way Vegas plays. Like they play that rope-a-dope style. They're like, okay, you can dominate for a couple, you know, 10 minutes a game. You can do your thing, but we're going to find a way to win these games and they do. And Dora, like, like, how big was that goal? I know, and I didn't like the fact that they didn't celebrate hard enough when

Hurtle got his goal in game, or would that have been game three? That was the end. But it was still in it. It made it four three. Anaheim was still ahead. Yeah. And then they almost scored right after that, Dorofi have almost scored. scored right after that. But like it wasn't that big of a celebration, but like when you're a goal

score and you see a puck go in, you get that confidence and he gets a beautiful goal the night after. And he went absolutely insane. It was such a good celebration. His teammates were so happy for him. Like they showed the bench. They were going nuts. So that was a good, that was a good, great goal by him. But you got to see him. He'll be getting going even more now and watch out for him. The biggest thing, though, is with McNabb. By the way, first time he's been suspended. in his 14 years. He plays hard. I was...

Suspendable hit. Suspendable hit. Yeah. Gary was kind of bitching. We were going back and forth, like via text. And I'm like, oh, no way.

Lawless, lawless, you mean. Not Batman. Yeah, not bet. And I'm like, well, like you got like they're basically their second, if not third best center. I would say second best center

who helps kill penalties out for next game. And I think it's a huge, obviously, because I think that their penalty kill, and I think their shot blocking leader in McNabb is now going to be out. So it's basically a one-for-one. So if anything, I could see Anaheim, I would actually bet power play goal for Anaheim.

Got to win this one, Anaheim. Got to win it. McNabb has been looking to do that to somebody for all playoffs. How many times have we chirped in our group chat? Like, oh, look, she's trying to put him to sleep like the arm dog used to. He's great. Oh, yeah, used to. Now he's diving, arm dog.

Yeah, we should. idea. He's been playing 22 minutes a game. McNab's a beast, buddy. He's a beast. He's a champion. But that hit, I literally could feel like I was like oh, like he just, it was like

he collapsed his sternum. And the puck was, I mean, the puck was like, they hadn't even dropped it yet. 15 feet away. When you get hit when there's no puck, it hurts 7,000 times more. Yeah. It's fucking. Because you let down your guard.

You're like, it's nowhere near me. Should we bring in the diver? Yeah, let's bring him in. He's driving around on a golf car. Oh, he's maddie for calling him a diver. Bring this guy in right now. I think he just mouth, what the fuck are they talking about?

He might dive out of that golf cart. What do you mean I'm diving? Buddy, we saw the clip. You looked like frigging googly on the Canadians. Goulet, as Merle calls him, the French defensemen. Yeah, Robert Goulet. Goulet. Goulet. No way, man. That was a hook. I wasn't going fast, but that's brutal. Is the windbat out here? Oh, my God.

Oh, you sound great, buddy. You sound amazing. Who's next to you? Well, just so I remember here, guess where we are. Where me and Biz beat you and Bugsy? Hey, what's his name? What's his name? Julian, Julian Mikala. Mikola. Who doesn't love Mikaela? But I'm here with these guys here. I'll show you these guys. here. But we played in Bugsie's event. And little game last night, little golf today with the boys saw Kopitar. He's retired of course. We know that. Congratulated him

on a great career. But we got these knuckleheads right here. Oh, yeah. Game winning goal last night. Let's go, Jans. I'm on your team this year. Game winning goal last night right here. Hell yeah. Game winning goal. A jeans too. Take that.

How's their golf game? fucking kid rocks on our fucking stream right now. Boys, they said they said be ready for them big deal selects. They're ready to roll trainings on. We've never heard that one before. We're putting a lot of work in the offseason. I don't know if Uncle Biz is cut us yet, but we're putting in the work. Hey, weather looks beautiful, huh? It's horrible. It's horrible. This is not my style. I'm like, I need, I'm so bad at golf. You guys know this that I need like good weather at least and be boozing like pretty heavily. It's freezing cold here right now. But we are at the scene of the crime biz

where you and Bugsy were coming up on that hole after this one. Where are you scrapped? Yeah, where you scrapped and you made Bugsy bleed his own blood. I made him bleed his own blood. Can you hand the camera to someone so we can see your shot? Are you about to hit? No, I'm not. I didn't play this hole because I set him out for this hole because I got to come on with you guys. I was going to ask Ollie and

Jacob what they make of the knob block situation because I think that their Calgary Oh, yeah, they're Calgary guys. Yeah. I'll ask him, hold on. You guys want to see him shoot here? Hey, he goes, we got a pretty big chip coming up here. Here he is.

Let's see how he does. Yeah, I watched the clips of those. It's insane. Those guys play with zero equipment on just in jeans. They don't give a shit, though. And there's like non-skaters out there. Oh, look at this. I think I did this when I was here with you, too, guys.

Oh, it's going all the way back down. It's going all the way back. What a loser. See you later. Who needs the PGA championship when we got the on the bench boys playing Pittsburgh. Army, do you think quickly,

Army, do you think Vegas ends it tonight? No. Okay. I don't think so. Man, Seneca has five goals. That kid's a weapon. Yeah, he's sick. I love that kid.

Like, they're just so dangerous. Their power plays can save them. I just don't think they're going to go quietly into the night against Vegas. I think we'll push it to another game here. you guys don't think so Biz says he just really wishes he bet on Vegas and 6 he'd said that prior to the series

and now it looks like I didn't mention yet I think before the series I mentioned it was if Carlson could outplay Eichael I think Eichols outplayed him you know no slight on Carlson Eichl's just that good

Yeah I like I love Leo I love a lot of their young guys you know Like I think they're they're in a good spot obviously, but it's tough to go head to head against a monster like that, like what Ikel can do at both ends of the ice. And I think Leo's in kind of that learning phase right now. Like he's taking this all in. Like first time playoffs, first time head to head in a seven game series

against a weapon like Ikel. Like that's a challenge, hey? Like I think he was a little upset at himself after that OT goal the other night. Just maybe not staying enough on the defensive side. But like that's what Ike will. When Ikel turns it up, he is easily top five. Because Ikel not looked like super casual at times, but it's just the way he looks.

He did early in the Utah series, and then he ramped it up and they won and six. And he did maybe at the beginning of this series, and then he ramped it up again and look where they're at. I think he's going to have a hell of a game six to close out. Yeah, he will. One of the main reasons I wanted to get Yarnah on Army is you texted me and you said you're going to be joining

the hockey night in Canada panel, is fucking awesome. So, congratulations. Yeah, I may be up there. I'm waiting to hear from them about scheduling for the conference finals. So I got that going on coming up here right now. And I'm waiting in the wing. So if they're watching or listening, got my phone on, even when I'm golfing, I'm ready to roll. At least a couple games get you in the mix, buddy. Come on, check the game notes. Yeah, check the game notes. Check the game notes. Check the game notes ready to roll. I'm drinking transfusions. I'm freezing my ass off on the course right now, boys. But playoffs, Are you still down on playoffs a bit?

No, I think Montreal Buffalo last game, Colorado mini last game has gotten me. That was insane last night. Insane. What a comeback. We went over that series already. If I can get a great two games tonight, then I will take back what I said about the second round

through two to three games of each series. Because, you know, it was basically like, Biz said it, the only real close game. Game three was a little close or game four in minors. any Colorado, and it ends up 5-2. Game 5 phenomenal. The past two games, or at least the last game, Montreal Buffalo grade.

So we're on the right track here. Now we are. All right, armed dog. We'll let you go, buddy. I'm here, boys. I'm here. I want to show you this. Right here, boys. We're going to see a swing? No, I think we're going in to get drinks. That's where me and Bugsie teed off on each other.

And if you haven't seen that sandbagger. Here's the clubhouse. Here's a clubhouse, too. They were fighting on his teapbox. right in front of the clubhouse. I'm like, I'm like, Bugsie, I live here.

What the hell are you guys doing? Just animals out here on the clubhouse. Shout out Swickley Heights golf course. Got us out here. Mark Barkowski and Bugsie put it all together. Jeff Carter's here. Copies here. Copa's here.

Copatar came out? Yeah, Copies in the group ahead of us. I don't know if I can find him. If I find him, maybe I'll text G and try to get back on it. 100%. We'll say,

hide on. They'll come on and say hi to my friends and we'll congratulate him on a hell of a run. Yeah, he's in dad mode. He's ready to roll. He's doing like hockey tournaments, figure skating stuff with his kids. He's, he said his schedule for travel right now is like no other. I said, buddy, get in line. Good luck. Oh, that's awesome. All right, I'm doing the club. All right, thanks for having me on, boys. See you, buddy. You're the best. Yep. See Army. See you boys. Love you guys. Another cool thing we saw in Anaheim, well, I mean, depending on how you look at it, So, Olin Zellwiger, he played 76 games this year, right?

Like, pretty good season. He's young defensemen. He can skate. They put in Tyson Hins, get Army, oh, he's off. They put in Tyson Hins who played basically all year in the HL for the playoffs, which has got to be hard for Zellwiger, right? He's smaller. They're looking for a little more size, but they put Zellwiger back in.

He's looked great. He had the tying goal in game, what was that, game four? Or was it game five? Yeah, game five, he tied it up. He's had an assist as well. He's flying around. So pretty cool for him to get back in and then actually show like, hey, I was up here playing all year. Like, don't, that's got to hurt.

You play all season and then you lose your job to a guy. I'd been in the H.L for 60 games this year. It was kind of a surprising decision that had been working, but he's back in and look good. So Armdog doesn't think it's over. He thinks Anheim gets done at home tonight. I like Anaheim. I like Anaheim tonight, too, especially with McNabb out. You talked how much he's playing.

uh yans we got any word on the butcher any chance he shows up tonight i don't know i haven't done done any digging biz style but uh i'm not sure that would be a huge ad for him but then does that mean zell wager's out like he's got to stay in now yeah true yeah so who would come out i got the ducks i think the ducks get it done at home they've been great at home all year coach q will make some adjustments and they find a way to get it back to Vegas. Maybe they put the butcher at Forward like they did with more.

Let him get in on the forecheck. Toma-Kazi mission. Well, we got some quick hits. Oh, yeah, we do. Yeah, we got some big time quick hit. I'll start with Biz's old team. Craig Barubi.

I mean, what a disaster of a season. Not saying on him. These bros ain't loyal. The gym accident. The picture, his forehead, his stitches. I saw a picture of, I think, an AI generated of him doing the, he's on the boat. Like, who was that Sheldon Keith?

Sheldon Keith had the send off. But it looked like the shark just bit. He's getting meme to death. He's getting meme to death. I've been there. Craig, I've been there. If you need any advice. Actually, we'll go into Toronto in a second.

I think we go to Edmonton. I think we go to Edmonton. Chris Knoblock has been let go by the Edmonton Oilers. And there's a man I'd love to chat to about this. And I need to hear his opinion. For anyone who doesn't know, the news breaks that the Oilers asked to talk to Bruce Cassidy. The Vegas Golden Knights did not give them permission. All of a sudden, oh my God, like, Knoblock is still your coach.

This is now news. This was supposed to remain private. It doesn't remain private. Who leaked it with? Lawless. Who leaked it? That's a great question. It wasn't the Oilers.

I'll tell you that. Because in my opinion, if Cassidy wasn't interested or they couldn't figure it out, they were going to keep Chris Knoblock. What? You can't, that's what I thought. Because why wouldn't they have fired him prior? So basically, you just wanted to get his kind of like the wean sucked on the road,

come back to the old lady type thing. And I don't think appreciate that talk as stuff comes on. Bob, what's going on? Crazy Day in Edmonton. Yeah. Just say the least. Stan Bowman's doing his availability right now, guys. You know, and there's a lot to unpack here during the course of this season.

There's no other way to say it. It was an underwhelming year. I think that it's entirely possible that Chris Knoblock was the right guy at the right time when he came in. In November of 23, he settled things down. He was relaxed. He had a tremendous assistant coach by the name of Glenn Gullenson that was. experienced that had a long history with Connor McDavid and Leon Dreissel that helped him out with the nuances of being an NHL head coach.

And then he had a dynamic force come in with him in Paul Coffey, who's old school. You know, he's not a guy that's going to sit there and pull out the iPad on the bench, but he knows how to bring confidence in players. And I think that that tandem certainly helped Chris. And if you look at the 23, 24 and 24-25 seasons, they were completely different than this year. You know, in 23-24, Evanton went 24-3 during one stretch,

an 8-game winning streak and a 16-game winning streak. People forget last year in 24-25, from November the 9th until the Four Nations face-off. For three months, the Oilers had the best record in the NHL. Okay? They didn't come close to anything like that with a new staff this year. They didn't have one three-game winning streak

until March. Got a five game winning streak late in the year, got injured in the playoffs, regressed in several areas. And the organization's a set critical time. They got Connor McDavid, two years left in a deal.

They got a win. And so I think the feeling was they needed a different voice. I was just going to stop. Are you okay? Like, how are you? No, he's not. Are you all right?

I don't know. I don't have seen anybody. depressed on this show in my life. Well, Paul, I mean, I've known Chris Knoblock for 25 years, right? So, you know, we, you know, I used to have him when Ryan was an oiler, he used to come on my show and people go, why the hell would you have the coach from the Cootney Ice on your show? And I'm like, because this guy is going to be an NHL coach one day.

There wasn't an accident. He ended up with Erie. Okay. The owners were helping Sherry Bassett out. He was the GM and owner of the team at that time. And Sherry liked Chris, but it wasn't an accident that he was. He ended up there. And his career took off an area where he became the first major junior coach in history to win.

Four straight 50 plus win seasons. That's hard to do. People go, oh, he was a byproduct of a David. He won 50 games two more years after Connor was playing with the Oilers. So, you know, I've watched this guy's journey. You know, I'm in Year 18 doing the Oilers. We've had some coaches. But when you have a Connor and David and Leon Dreis settle, and by the way, the orders have three superstars now.

I don't have two. because I'm adding to Evan Bouchard. He's a superstar player. Yep. There is an expectation to win right now. And he can't have the regression that Emerton had. Chris found a way to integrate all the players in 23, 24. He'd be, I'm sure, be the first to tell you.

He wished he could have got more guys engaged and involved this year. And yes, Eminton had injuries in center. And just like Minnesota, Bill Garron's not going to sit there and say, well, I didn't have Erickson and Rodin, my shutdown tandem, which gives McDavid 40 fits to go up against the McKinnon's line. The owner's got beat by the ducks, just like the abs beat the wild. You respect your opponent.

Lots of people think the orders were out. Coach Nuttahe series, I'm, look at the Juice, Anaheim got out of the washing line with Jeffiel. You know, those guys are, they weren't even in the NHL start earlier, you know? And so, Ebbiton has a window. I feel bad for Chris. I feel bad for Chris's family. It's a tough business.

some days. Saying that, I have a full expectation that the owners will look for a completely different type of coach here carrying forward. These hope it was ain't loyal. That was my main takeaway was somebody with a little bit more pissing vinegar, but I trust no one more than you in terms of the oil. And I'm wondering your opinion on the way everything was approached. So in the grand scheme of things, you're looking at it like if we don't get Cassidy, and this is just my thoughts or ideas, We don't get Cassidy, Naubleau can be back. Fine.

Now, what is your... I don't know about that, Ryan. Okay. I'm not sure. Okay, then Bob, then Bob, why don't you let Noblock go before... Well, for one, you got... You want to deliver the news face to face. I have no idea how the, you know, how the report got out.

And Stan Bowman would not comment on that. But it was Mother's Day weekend. And the guys flew back in Edmonton yesterday. okay and got delayed during the course of the day which Ryan you played here that's not uncommon and so you want to you know you want to look a guy between the antlers and so they needed to have that conversation it took place last night with Jeff Jackson and Stan Bowman and Chris Knoblock

and then the announcement was made today so off what about calling him and saying listen like things are yeah I'm not gonna I don't know about the protocol on that I gotta tell you right like it's is there a right way to do it? I mean, I can remember going back to Craig Metavish telling us at the end of the 12-13 season when he'd just taken over from GM that coaching wasn't an issue. And then they pivoted to Dallas Akins, basically meeting him at the combine, and Ralph Kruger was over in Europe.

And so they had to tell him via Zoom, right? Or however they did it at that time. So, you know, I don't have the full rundown on this. All I'm going to tell you is I'm going to tell you exactly the type of coach they're going to go get. And it's a different coach than knoblock. And it's going to be an experienced coach with gravitas that can put structure and process in the team's game, probably help the penalty kill and has won before. That's going to be the type of guy they're looking for.

So outside of Cassidy, who would that be? That's the panic in my opinion stuff, is if you don't get them. If you don't get Cassidy, well, there's no guarantee they will. He's going to have options and we'll see what Vegas ultimately, I mean, Vegas has some control on this as well, right? I don't know where, and I have no idea where this is at this time. He, you know, is technically of their employ. What do you think of Vegas doing that, the way they have?

handled it. I don't know all the aspects of it. I know that Vegas, when the Edmonton orders fired Peter Sherelli, I put a tweet out with my top five candidates. Kelly McCrimman was the assistant GM to George McPhee at that time, and I had Kelly number one. I mean, I told guys when they bought WHL teams, when that call comes in from Kelly McCrimmon, you hang up the phone because you've already lost the trade. He's going to kick your ass, okay? So I, like I think Vegas is a pretty well, I'm going to say this. Oh, yeah. The Vegas Golden Knights beat the Emmington orders in the margins in in 2023 when they won that series. Okay. I said it last year with you guys when I was on with Gary. You know, and I was tremendous, I was actually surprised Eminton won the series in five games last year.

And the orders really got going around two and three. I mean, they beat Vegas and five in Dallas and five. But, you know, the Hyman injury was massive. And then Nuge Busta's head in game two against Florida. Florida was so deep that it appeared as though Emmetton was further. away from winning than the year before. They probably were, and they were different teams. That's another factor here. Like, Stan Bowman just took personal accountability. So this is not all on Chris.

We made some bets on the players. Has not worked out to this point. And players didn't perform at the level that we thought they would. And he said, that's on me. I made the call there. So, but I do think we're looking at an experienced veteran coach. So, I mean, there's some guys out there. Obviously, Peter Lavillette.

What about you? He's one. Chiefs one. He's an old. Yeah. Craig Barubi, right? Sure. Do you think it's more of a coaching issue or a personnel issue with all this turnover and all the play? Like when does management take a look in the mirror? I think management is taking a look at the mirror.

Yeah. I was going to say you could bring in Al Arbor, Scotty Bowman. With that goaltending and a 9.25 million D man that has to play all the time that can't play, you're not going to win shit. Yeah. Well, they did get to the seventh and sixth game of the Stanley Cup final with what people thought was, you know, average to below average goal. But the goal tendons, the question is fair. I mean, they ranked the goalies of the 16 playoff teams, you know, TNT did. The owners would not rank highly.

And it was clear Chris Conneringham was Chris's guy and Tristan Jerry. Tristan's got to have a massive bounce back here. And for all of you guys to sit there and say, stop, you can't count on that. That is a fair perspective to have. Now, do you think it's loser talk kind of, like, all you hear is like Edmonton hanging their hat on going to back-to-back finals, obviously not winning? And I know how hard it is to get to the Stanley Cup finals, but like when you just say, oh, we got to the finals two years in a row, it doesn't really mean shit. I think you know exactly what you're talking about. I think it sucks for those guys.

And I think that the players think they're in a window and damn it, they have to win now. and so you can't change out all the players, but what you can do is change out the staff a bit. So it sucks for Chris, and they're going to bring in a different type of coach. Chris, Chris, you know, the reps would love Chris because he was, you know, I'll give you an example. That was a tough call in game four against Anaheim, right?

Remember the puck that squeaked through Jerry. Jerry played pretty well. The puck was shot from the saddle and that. The lot, both officials did not look like they were in great positions. on the play. They don't blow the play dead. And the explanation is, well, we got the call right at the end anyways because the puck was marginally over the line.

Game 5, Emmington's up 4-1. And Leon Dreissel, who has been a beast in the playoffs, his entire career, right? Absolute beast. Gets cross-check from behind, right in front of the referee. That is a major penalty in a regular season game. I'm thinking, I'm looking at Chris going,

you got a freebie there, man, especially after what happened in Game 4. a rip. You know, I watched Rod Brindamore go after the officials, Joel Clenville, and I wonder whether or not maybe a missed stop. Sometimes you got to show a little bit of motion. Yeah. And, you know,

you know what I'm saying? I agree. That's what was lacking at times. And I think that was the disconnect. Maybe I'm wrong between him and Paul Coffey and Coff comes back after the Olympics this year. The scary part is that you said it. I mean, this is the biggest offseason

maybe in the history of the Oilers organization and the start it's off to is like it's just a tough it's an ugly start now if they end up getting cassidy whoever they get like we'll see what happens with with the roster but i do wonder if mac david and leon don't speak so freely in that postseason press conference if if this is if this would have all gone down because they were i mean to sit there and say we took a big step backwards it's like you know people were like holy shit you don't hear that often and then And they didn't just say it's the roster. They put stuff on themselves.

And I think Leon mentioned, I got to be more defensive. That is the thing. Like, they have to play defense stuff that you can't, you can't win if you're not going to play D. You get, they have bad team defense at least this year. And if, and if he's such a good coach, like, why are they mentioning, like, and saying words like structure and stuff like that? Like, is, like, I don't know.

Well, that's, that's work backwards here. Okay. Connor McDavid after the orders lost game six of the Stanley Cup final, made some comments about Emmington's inability to deal of what Florida was doing. And adjust, yeah. And adjust, right? And then just before the Olympic break, okay, Leandro I settled after a game against Calgary, which, and I criticized Chris on the air for Healthy Scratch and Trent Frederick.

I know Freddie had a, he had a bad year. I don't care. He's on an eight-year deal. It's coaches, at the end of the day, coaching to me, and it's not an easy job. but the best coaches are the ones that can get the most out of all their players. Yeah, you've got to instill confidence in your guys. Right. And they signed Trent Frederick to an eight-year deal to give them some jam and a bigger presence.

And they never got nothing out of them the entire year. And I didn't agree with him being scratched in Calgary against a team like the Flames. They're a tough team at home. I mean, you know, that's a team that's got a little bit of bite. And the order's lost tonight, and Leon went off. And right away, he said, coaching's got to be better. And, you know, we're flying back to Calgary as we're heading off to the Olympic break from Calgary. And I'm thinking, this is probably not a good.

And the eight previous games, the orders should have gone two and six. They were four and four, and they had the worst goals against the league over those eight games, and the worst penalty kill. So something had to give coming out of the Olympic break, and that was Paul Coffey returning. And they did play better in the regular season. Then when Leon got hurt, they played Tampa Bay. And the lightning came in and kicked the snout of the orders for nothing. And that night it was Connor McDavid talking about John Cooper, who has Gravitas, who has a big personality. That said, he's two and ten at home in the playoffs in the last four years after they went to the final three years in a row of winning two cups.

But he's won the cups. And, you know, as you guys said, you'll win, changes everything. So there was commentary during the course of the year from your two best players, your two leaders, and then they circled back to it in the exit interviews at the end of the year, or not the exit interview, but with the media saying, look, we regressed. And I think that's the biggest takeaway here is, with all due respect to Chris, he's got a pretty good record, got a team to a Stanley Cup final first NHL coach since Scotty Bowman to get the Stanley Cup in his first two years.

I think there was a regression, and I think that they felt they need a different voice carrying forward. And absolutely, you listen to the players. We're all here because of the players. You got Keith, you know that. Ryan, you know that. Paul, you know that. Like, rule number one, it doesn't matter if you're a manager, a scout, a broadcaster, you know, we're here.

Guys in the equipment room, everyone's here because of the players. And you've got to listen to your players. And you've got to read between the lines sometimes with what the players are saying. And frankly, they didn't even have to read between the lines. It was pretty obvious. That's why I love the fact that they came out, because that's, That's that new school error. That didn't happen 10, 15 years ago.

But you see how much these guys put into their craft, how bad they want to win. And they're like, listen, we need everyone. We need the management, the coaches, the players. Because at the end of the day, they're going to bring it every single game every year they play because they're that good. But they need help.

You need help to win in the NHL. Two guys, three guys can't win you a Stanley Cup. And the whole Paul Coffey, like coming back halfway through dynamic, like we joked about it when the podcast, I feel like Edmonton's turned into a bit of a soap opera. It feels like Toronto Oilers. The Toronto Oilers. Stop.

This is what I deal with stuff. Just don't even worry about it. What's that? This is what I deal with with these What do you mean? You're done. You're not even a fan anymore. When half of this type of stuff happens in Toronto, this guy's signing on the podcast like, oh

Christmas in July. And then like, it's a full-blown shit show. same way with the oilers, and then he gets you to come on and do his dirty work. I can't disagree. I don't even get it. I don't even have a stuff. I have to deal with this myself internally. Well, I take that as a compliment.

Obviously, I got all you guys. Should. You should. No, you know what? It's tough, right? Like, you see somebody and you, you know, like, we spent a lot of time with Chris over the last three years. As you know, you have a broadcaster's availability. Every coach handles those differently. Now, I'm still friends of Todd McClellan. I really like Todd. In fact, Todd interviewed Chris

twice. Once in Emmington and once in LA. You can figure out maybe how that happens, right? So, you know, that happens. Here's my hot take. Toronto Maple Leafs should go get knob lock. They should get him. They just had a hard nose, Craig. They need, they need some guys who can connect with those players over there. Tell me a better coach available. You just stroke them off. Tell me he's the next. He's the next Al Arbor.

Let's get him in Toronto. I don't think I quite use that terminology, but, I like that, Biz. Well, you got the lotion in the drawer. You might as well. All right, stop. We know you.

We appreciate you coming on, buddy. Along with the gal. I'll leave you with this. I got to tell you. I got to tell you. So I had Chris Johnson on yesterday talking about Burumi being fired. I go, is it out of the realm of possible.

but Craig Barubi is from Calahoo, Alberta, okay? He played on a line with Todd Ewan in junior, the only man ever to drop Proby, straight out, knock him the blank out, and Cliff Ronning. Cliff Ronny was the safest man in New Westminster on that team. Like, Barubi's from Calahoo, and I sat there and said to Chris,

could you imagine if the two head coaches ended up in each other cities? Would it be the craziest thing? I don't think it's a bad, Paul. I don't think it's a bad suggestion at all. I mean, Toronto and Edmonton to the wife swap would be. Talk about a story. Oh, oh. It's like the NHL scripted.

I do this job for free if that happened. Stoff, we appreciate it, buddy. I know you're kind of running around with all the news breaking there. So thank you. You're our guy. You should be the, you should interview for the job. Yeah. I mean,

tip of the cat. Not going to lie. Like, not a huge fan of Bowman and what he's done there. I would gladly have Stoff as my GM. I'm not putting you in a weird position. Stop that right now. I'll do the job for both of you. Go over to Russia, go to locomotive, get Danny ECOv, the goaltender, 26 years old.

He'll cover all your problems. Okay. Okay, there we go. All right. Thank you, Stoff. Nice for it, guys. Hey, standing O for Stop, boys. Standing all.

Thanks, fellas. Standing all. Thanks, Stoffer. A great guy. And, Biz, just an amazing call by you. Like, I love talking stuff. off on but yeah i had him on to to kind of you know deal with my dirty work that i knew you were going to bring to me and i had a guy who knows what he's talking about and can answer the questions

correctly so you called it you were bang on unbelievable call by biz i didn't even put that you were bang on he does it all the time he does all of his dirty work you were bang on um he's your assassin i didn't want to say with him on but because i don't want to put him in a in a tough spot like get rid of stan bowman like get a new GM. Stan Bowman, he might be a great guy. He had him on years ago. He inherited that team in Chicago.

And I don't, I can't believe he was hired to begin with. And a couple, I mean, Pod Colson was a great move. Ingram was solid, but boys, and I'm not saying the offer sheet stuff was on him. He kind of ate that shit sandwich right as he came in. But boys, like, I would have, if I could have chosen a new GM or a new coach, chose a new GM. I think I think them not bringing back Ken Holland was insane. Insane.

And I, and I, and I'll stand by this and I don't know this. I'll give you that. I'll give you that. I didn't dig is I think the reason that those offer sheets came was because there was already news and he'd caught wind that he wasn't coming back. And there was some shady stuff going on in the background.

Like, oh, I'm not going to be the guy. They hadn't even finished the Stanley Cup series yet. I think at that point, they might have been down 3-0. And all of a sudden, he's, oh, I'm not coming back. Oh, I put this together. When's the last time we've been to the finals here in Edmonton?

I know who Edmonton should hire as a GM. Two GMs. Double? From Hal Kirk, Alberta. Shane Donne and from Edmonton Alberta Ray Whitney Wow Ray Whitney was a fucking stick boy

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McDavid stays If Shane and Ray Whitney are there Than anyone else I kind of love that Who would their coach be? Who would they hide? as the coach. It is.

You know who they should go get? The guy who the gargoyles just let go. Yeah. How about all three of your team? Didn't even know his name. We became 0.2% owners of a team. The team then had a really hard year

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Everybody, welcome to Ari's World here in the Spitting Chicklets podcast live from Rousie Kattrayan, right outside by window. Get out of the city, R.A. You're not saying. Still there, all right? He's got a brewing shirt on. He's got a fucking brewing shirt on. This is dog walk. It's my nightgown.

No, I literally, it was cheaper to stay another night than it was to come home yesterday. It would have been $300. No, for real. I heard that one of much. Honey, honey, it was cheaper to stay. There's no honey with. There's no honey. No, dude, it was literally

There is it super sex, though. $300 more to come home. I've been close for years, so I heard. So it was cheaper to stay, and I got a cheaper hotel and got a late checkout. So, yeah, I'm coming home in a couple hours. But, dude, just a blast, a different animal. And even for the loss, I'll tell you,

the place is pretty friggin' festive walking around after. I can't imagine what it would have been, like, had they won. I was with these guys at our HFTV. These guys are great, but holy shit, we walked to friggin' moose jar on back before we did this postgame interview they wanted to do. I don't know what the whole thing. up was, but I had a good time hanging out with them.

Then I met up with the con man at Hurley's. They got friends at Hurley's, but it's a crazy thing that happened there with. So I'm going to take a leak, right? Now, yeah, I'm a middle-aged fella. Sometimes our piss is coming a little at the missions we don't necessarily expect. And so, you know, sometimes I go in the stall because like, then you start, then if there's a line, you wait and the stage right because you can't piss, blah, but it was kind of quiet in the bathroom.

All of a sudden, I hear a dude like, hey, what's going on there or something? Like, I thought it might have been a bouncer. I was like, bro, I'm just trying to get a piss off here. He's like, what? I'll come in and fucking smash your head and fucking come. I'm like, I'm like, what the fuck? Like, what happened? Friendly, fucking Montreal?

I don't know if it's a hell's angel. I mean, it's sort of bouncer because a bouncer would have heard it different. And I know I'm in a stall. I know you can make the obvious joke here. No, I was taking a piss. And like, now I'm standing there with my fucking schmen's on my hand. I'm not sure if the door's going to get kicked in. I'm going to get fucking bundled.

And, you know, Kahn's out with like eight of his buddies. So I'm like, he don't know what I look like. I can't see him. So I lean down. I just look between my legs to get a look at the footwear, kind of take a number, so to speak, just so when I'm in the bar, if I see those sneakers, I'll recognize that's the idiot who started,

started, you know, trouble. I'm trying to get a piss, you know. So whatever, I went outside. Nothing, didn't see him, whatever, nothing happened. But it was just kind of weird, man. I just wanted to take a leak in some dude, threatening my life. Just doesn't usually happen here much. Well, I thought something was going to happen.

Wait, so nothing happened? Well, I mean, I got my life threatened while trying to take a piss. I mean, that was kind of unusual. Never happened yet before. Yeah, that's something. Yeah. But the game had said. I got to catch up with knuckles after the first.

So I went down, you know, I had to go down a couple, like, lowest sections. So it was like, you know, less than a minute left in the period. You know, there's a couple, dude, there's no empty seats at the lowest man. No surprise in Montreal. So I see an empty seat. I'm like, oh, it's literally 45 seconds left until the buzzer. And I'll go down and see Chris. And I sit down and, you know, people get up with the last whistle before the period.

And then the guy leans forward to me and says something in French, you know, I have no idea what he's saying. And the lady behind me goes, he told you. you're sitting in an Yvon Kornaye seat. That was the mush. That's Canadian's legend seat. Dude, he wasn't, I don't even know. You're a Bruins fan. Hey, see you boys.

They don't mock it and say this is Yvonne Coenwey's seat. I mean, this is crazy, boys. It's over. It's over. But, but one. You think I had any idea? It was a random load sheet.

Great seat, by the way. What adult is taking another person's seat? Dude, did you buy a seat in? Sit in the seat. Yeah, if you're going to down. We're watching the intro. We're watching the intro, the pregame intro. R.A's carrying out the torch.

Is that my seat? No, I'm in the upper deck. Oh, okay. If there was a sign, do not sit here, I would totally respect that. I was just literally like, all right, there's 30 seconds left. I'm going to me, Chris, 50 feet, or well, catch the, you know, last few seconds of the period. Unbeknownst to me, it was the roadrunner. So my apologies to the roadrunner, Habs legend.

So, yeah, I figured he doesn't get a kick out of that way. Imagine that French guy in East. sees you and you know whatever the woman said he said to you he said something way worth i didn't hear tabernat oh yeah imagine they saw it's like boston bruin's boxers hanging out of his pants too as they're letting down hey games uh what game is it going game six he's in bellevose wife's seat like he's like what the fuck's going on here like come on here it was cheaper it was cheaper they stay in the penthouse of the four seasons I took a yoga.

Keep it for me to stay till July. Wicked a lot of fart and with all the Putin I've been eating. But, though, like, obviously, the atmosphere unreal. I was up Section 315 Roe J. I mean, not a bad seat in that bond. How much was that ticket, R.A? I paid, I think with 319, I think I paid far. And price were actually a little bit higher going into the game.

So, I mean, I saved a couple bucks by getting it a day or too early. That place, no shit, Sherlock loves Hudson, man. Like when they were, like, announced the lineup, he got the biggest bump out of anybody. And during that, that, that, you know, the allowed go, then disallowed the interference. Nobody in the building had any clue really what was going on. It was like this huge delay. And we saw the thing go up to nothing. And then they come back and said it was disallowed.

There was just, you know, a lot of confusion, not much of an update inside. Shout out to the refs. Some of them do it. Yeah. Got to get on the mic. And you just got to give people the breakdown and say, guys, you know, it was deemed a good goal on the ice. Now we're going for goal tender or interference. This is what we're looking for.

be right back in a few minutes. They never explained it? They got to explain shit to the fans. Because if you're live in attendance, like people are like, what the fuck's going on here? And obviously they, all right,

did they play the replay over and over on the board? They showed, I think maybe one or two after the call to see the, you know, the glove on the net, but you know,

while it's going on. No, but I think people thought it might have been the, I forget what it would say, but kind of cut through the crease. I think people thought it was him. And Biz, you did raise a good point earlier,

that his stick does come in contact with Dobish's glove. who was it, Quinn, I believe. Quinn, yeah. But, like, I don't know if that caused it, you know, to go in further. That fair I kind of said. Because it was Hellenius. That was the goaltender interference, the guy driving through.

And, you know, if that caused him, did he not put in position to make the save? I mean, he sort of did make the save because it went in his glove. But I could see why he overturned it. But either way, you know, it was after the Thompson's a little wacky bounce there. It's still 2-2, more than half the game left. So, you know, no excuses to not get the W. R.A, what was the reaction? And were people, like, did people not know that that had gone in right away?

Like, no. That's, that's a one in a million. It was so bang, bang, quick. I mean, that's the game. Like, I mean, because I was down that end, too. And there was zero reaction from anybody that that might have been a goal. Because you think, I mean, probably a fraction of a second door, which is, you know, glove on the puck is actually over the goal line.

But no, there was zero reaction that that might have actually even been a goal. Like, like what's usually at home, too. Like, if they think it's a goal, they won't show it on the score. green to get the crowd's reaction. Oh, like you're talking about the goalie interference one? Yeah. Yeah. The Dolbish one that hit off the mooring, it's not even like with the what?

Yeah, wasn't it the Zamboni door? Yeah, Zamboni door mooring. It's like whatever you want to call it. Dolbisch wasn't even far out of his net. He was basically on the goal line. That's what's even crazier about it. He was just sliding. He was just starting to slide across as it was going to go on the other corner.

It was just awful timing. What I heard is that they've told him that on that end to stay in his net, to not come out. And that's why he was in there. And it funny enough that if he did come out behind the net like he normally does, it might have just skidded right across the crease to the other side. Oh, no. Yeah, because it hit the back of his right leg up, paddy and went right in.

But, yeah, I mean, took the air out of the builder, but not completely. Like you said, I was like more than half a game left. But, yeah, just an awesome unreal atmosphere. I could check that one off the bucket list. I know they would give a degree failure, but the playoffs not being so good this year, which I disagree on that sentiment. No, I meant, I said the beginning of the second round.

Okay, but 87% of games decided by a goal or two goals with an empty net, two or more goals with an empty net. That's absolutely insane stats. I mean, Merle's a good thing on the lagoon right now, because those puckline Jesus would be killing me right now if I haven't got too many of them. The draws are all over the place, though. But one more thing on Montreal, any, what do they call them? Show Shenz, the hot dogs.

How many hot dogs? Can I show. No. Also, so anyways, I, when I met Conman earlier in the day, though those boys were getting a tour, I landed, took the cab, they were getting a two o'clock start. I was like, it's just one thing I don't need is a two o'clock start. So I ran back to the, they had a, well, it was an Airbnb,

but it was like, it was right on St. Catherine Street. It's like a loft, but it's like a hotel, too. It was real cheap. You know, it's just big loft, but like five bedrooms or anyway. So I went back there, took a quick nap, shower up, and then went to Hurley's before, after the game. And then Duns, man. I was Jones and I hadn't got my smoke,

me yet and there's a couple of duns here. Awesome, like Prisket sandwiches. I opened like five in the morning. After Hurley's, I popped in there, stuff my face. That was my knockout punch. Went to bed. And it had to be up yesterday to check out of that place and then check into this place. And I stayed in last night. Obviously, we had the show today. And, you know, I watched the game.

I was a little tired from the night before. So, yeah, it was cheap in a stay-night. That's the one was saying. But it really was. It was like $300 more to fly home. And as opposed to, like, $110 for a hotel and a late checkout. So, you know, no brain for me on that end. Sound like my casino stories when I say, oh, yeah, you know, I got to stay for free, though.

Boys, breaking news here. I just took a phone call, R.A., that guy outside the bathroom stall, it was Cornwall. Okay, good, yeah, good. Took his fucking seat, like sea bass, ready to pound your face in for mushing the goddamn Canadians. I'm texting Gorts right now. They better change that seat out. Get them a new one. Yeah, literally no clue.

And I mean, there were five other seats. I could have jumped them. But yeah, I got apologies to the roadrunner. That was a little social misfit behavior. But yeah, what are you going to do? I'm just glad I didn't get my face kicked then when I was up taking a piss of frigging hurlies. All right. Let me ask you.

Yeah, yeah. I got my picks already out there on game notes yesterday. Another shameless plug by me there. What do you got for picks tonight? Sabres, Montreal and then Vegas ducks. I like Montreal tonight. I think, I don't they play. I mean, Dobish outside that top bounce he suffered the other night.

He played Unreal game. That other save he made late was incredible. UPL played Pissor as well. I think it's going to be like a 2-1, 3-2 game. Most light you'll go to all the time, but I'm taking Montreal. They'll come back here with a chance to wrap things up in six. And out the coast, I like the ducks.

I think the ducks, they've been having a hell of a season. I think they easily extend this, I'd say maybe 4-1 tonight, go back to Vegas for a game seven. We haven't had a game seven for a while. We'd do so. They sabotants. I always butcher that and the ducks for tonight, quack, quack. I like the ducks pick.

I'm on the sabers, obviously. I like that game going to OT, Merle's, that Buffalo, Montreal. Yeah, that's good call. Let's get on it. I'll get on that. I'm on it right now. Get on that. And I know wrapping up quick here, a couple last notes.

Classic recommendation. I'm not sure I doubt you guys watched Tenen bombs last week. I'm going to give you two for one this week. Folks out there, the movie heads are Alien and Aliens. The second one, first one come out, 79. Ridley Scott, horror sci-fi, awesome flick. And then the sequel come out 86 by Jim Cameron, more of an action sci-fi flick. Murals, you must have seen Alien or Aliens, no?

I get you. I was never really big into the sci-fi. I know I've come across that. Athletes Riliano for some reason. I tell you what I'm hooked on right now because I'm here living alone, so I'm waking up weird hours. So I throw on Netflix. Is it Harlan Corbin, this author?

Yeah. And they've turned all his books into these shows. and it's always like these English actors, they're thrillers. Oh, I'm hooked. I can't stop watching them each night. So Netflix, check those out. All right, boys. Well, great time up here.

No plans for any other games, but, you know, things could change spur of the moment. So flying home in a couple hours, get home for these games tonight. And always great chatting, boys, and I see how things go this weekend, boys. All right. Great stories. Dave travels. All right. If I'll pay for your flight and ticket, would you switch it to Buffalo right now?

Um, we We got a second. I'm in on that. Fill up my car with some shell gasoline. I'll drive out there, Witt. Wow. I can maybe, I can't, I, I don't think I have anything. You have nothing.

Yeah. Like, what the fuck are we doing? You can find a flight and then you can find a ticket. You, you buy them and then I'll bring the cash over when you get home. I might have a buddy who has a ticket. I'll text them right now. So I, so just a flight to Buffalo. You have to root for Buffalo, though.

You can't wear anything Montreal. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, no, I'm saying what's, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Because I'm flying on Porter from out of Montreal. I can't get a Porter flight in Buffalo to Boston. You can't be a Sabres fan all of a sudden. Here's the deal. Here's the deal.

I didn't finish. Okay. Everyone jumped on it. You have to wear a Canadian's hat and a Sabres T-shirt. Yeah. And sit in Pat La Fontaine. and see. Yeah, now that's a whole other thing.

That that just kind of goes against, like, I don't know. I know I have a Canadian side. It's all up to you. It's just throwing it out there as the show ends. I know, but it would be actually too, like, because I'd have to fly from Montreal to Buffalo and Buffalo. So it would actually be two flights. I'm just throwing that out there.

All right. We'll figure all that out for you. All right. Let me just check, check in whatever. I know. I just, I don't want to say, yeah, and then fucking have to bail out. Also, R.A., what would be fun, too, is, is like, we could also send you

on a train to get there. That's a fun train ride to do it. Trains are the best, dude. Trains are the best. You send you on a first class train ride. You go all the way down to Toronto and then maybe we get you a car from Toronto. Okay. Six hours to puck drop.

That too. And there's no direct flights from Montreal, Buffalo. I just looked them up. Really? Yeah. On Expedia, I don't know if Porter does that way too. I don't know. Yeah.

Just hop on Jean Belvo's wife's chat. I'm just going to be a game six, but it would be a little more adventurous to do it straight from here. Yeah, let me poke around it. If it's feasible, yeah, maybe quite so, but I just can't, I don't know yet until I see the all the transportation options. But it's fun. It sounds like a fun idea either way. Yeah, that would be awesome. I'll check back off here, but always up last place, enjoy the games tonight, and I'll be in touching a little bit.

Have fun in Buffalo. Thank you, R.A. Thank you to everyone for listening. We appreciate it. Shout out Merle, show out Army, show out Stoff, the legend. Thank you guys so much. Everyone, we appreciate it. We'll be back to you Monday.

Things could all be wrapped up, boys, and we'll be talking conference finals. So have a great one. There's a good.