Spittin Chiclets - Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 658: Featuring Dave Portnoy

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

On Episode 658 of Spittin’ Chiclets, the crew are joined by our leader Dave Portnoy to talk about his new book that’s available for purchase as well as the history of some of the biggest barstool defining moments on how we got here. But first, the Draft is over and some big names coming into the NHL soon, and with lot’s of trades around the league, the landscape for next season is already under way. All this and more on this week’s episode. You won’t want to miss it. 00:00:00 - START 00:00:31 - Chiclets Updates 00:14:18 - Babcock Presser 00:22:18 - Robertson Saga 00:35:51 - NHL Trade Frenzy 01:18:39 - Dave Portnoy 01:56:55 - Draft Recap 02:13:54 - RA’s World 02:26:46 - ETC. Support the Show: PINK WHITNEY: Go get a bottle of Pink Whitney.  Pinkies UP! BODYARMOR: Work hard and hydrate hard with BODYARMOR Flash I.V. Grab it at 7-Eleven LUCY: LUCY is the only pouch that delivers long-lasting, on-demand flavor. Find a store near you at LUCY.CO/STORES or get it shipped with 20% off your first order at LUCY.CO/CHICLETS using code CHICLETS. Canadians, check CA.LUCY.CO to find a store near you. LUCY products are only for adults of legal age, and every customer is age-verified. Warning, this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. RUGIET: Get 15% off the breakthrough brain-and-body ED treatment at https://Rugiet.com/Chiclets ATHLETIC BREWING COMPANY: Go to https://Athleticbrewing.com/CHICLETS to find stores near you and get 15% off your first order. Terms and conditions and certain limitations apply.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/schiclets

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Sank. What is up, folks. Welcome to episode 658 of the Spitting Chick with podcast. By, pinkies up. That's right, guys. Pink Whitney, here we go. It is the summer. It is officially the summer.

Maybe last week when we recorded it was the first of the summer. What is it? Like June 22nd or something like that? The long this day. That's the day I want to try to play like six. Summer solstice. Summer solstice is what you're looking for. Yeah.

And buddy, it's like 815. It's still light. Oh, that's just living. That's absolutely living. But right now we're coming. coming up on the 4th of July and Canada Day Biz and shuttle Canada. Wow, pinkies up to the Canadian men's World Cup team with that, which I believe had never won a game until this year.

Before Qatar. They'd never won a World Cup game before the Qatar game. Okay, okay. Oh, so listen, I think there's been a lot of discourse of Canada. The Olympics, the men's the hockey Olympics this year really fucked up our relations. And I love Canada. I love Canada. I love trying to beat Canada.

But at the same time, Canada and U.S., in my mind, we are won. We are one. And to watch you got, now, if we somehow met in the World Cup, all of a sudden, all of a sudden, it begins again. But we're going to be doing separate pods by the time the season hits. Let's be honest, though, that's never going to happen. Yeah, I don't think that either one of our squads are our favorite to go far enough to meet each other. I don't think. I haven't looked at the bracket.

But what an electric game. So I guess I'm going pinkies up for the Canadian. men's World Cup team to win that game in just incredible fashion. Last minute, I think it was a late penalty time or extra time. Extra time goal. And it was in, where was that game? LA, I believe, too. Yeah, and Solfi Stadium.

And I guess there was a chance at some point we may chat with the coach. I don't know. You mentioned that. I got a lot of negative tweets saying like, oh, yeah, jumping on the soccer bandwagon. And like I literally sent out a pump up video to their coach. Because Wayne asked me to, Wayne, like remember when we went to Edmonton and Wayne got asked to like go in and pump up the oil kings?

And you did. And he's like, yeah, where's the court jester? Bring him. Where's that clown? Clown nose. Yeah, through the nose again. The best part about it is Witt had just finished shaving my, my Peter Mansbis the day prior.

So I come in and I take my ball cap off and I do a little pop-up. So every time Wayne gets asked to do this now. Yep. And of course he got asked for Team Canada. He's like, all right, let's get, let's get Biz firing up the boys. I would, I guess I'll ask the coach when the tournament's over if we could play it on here, like how I fired him up. And hopefully we get him on.

He was going to come on, but I think that they had to travel to Mexico now, where they're going to be playing their round of six. game. So pretty crazy that it sucked though because they they lost against the Swiss so they didn't win their division, which would have meant they would have played the round of 32 game in Vancouver, which would have

been like the craziest. I think that would have been the biggest ever Canadian sporting event on. No, no, no. your hockey first. 2010 Olympics? I know, listen. I'm saying from a sense of viewership

because like no like am I crazy here I think so because the game didn't mean anything right it was no but he's saying if they played in van at home round of 32 just because not only that amount of Canadian eyeballs but the amount of world eyeballs like now that you're in the knockout rounds like I feel like not just Canadians are watching so yes yes the Vancouver Olympics like if you could pull up the numbers maybe it would have had out of the out of the 35 million Canadians what 15 million Canadians? I'm going to need some help from the back here. But I would say that if they would have played that on Canadian soil, you might have had,

and maybe they still did have half of the televisions in Canada watching. But regardless, the viewership in America was 27.6 million on NBC. And on Canada, it was 16.6, it says. On that round of 32 games? No, no, for the Olympics. For the Olympics in 2010. If we had 27 million Americans watching Canada versus who they beat? day, who'd they beat?

They beat Qatar. They beat Qatar. No, that was the first game. Who'd they beat in the knockout? South Africa. South Africa. If we had 27 million Americans watching that game, I've been like, okay, I guess hockey's never sniffing soccer, not that it ever would.

Do we have the numbers on that game yet? Go ahead, Janz. Just for those people calling you a bandwagon fan of this, that's what everybody in this tournament is a bandwagon fan, especially if you're in North America and except from Mexico, no one. one in US and Canada is watching soccer like they are overseas or there are, I believe there are in

the US, I'm not going to say an enormous group, but there's some US soccer fan. Actually, our guy PFT is like he doesn't watch soccer unless it's Team USA like the national team. So I think that in a sense it's getting bigger

in the US. Now if the US were to go on a run here, that could be in 10, 15 years, that's something that you could actually be like, holy shit, they went on a run. in the U.S. I will say this too, considering it's, the U.S. is hosting with Canada and Mexico, any of those teams moving on should have automatically had the at least round of 32 game at home. I guess you can't do it based on like fracking and everything, but they should have figured a lot of way.

But yeah, no, I would have liked to have seen that. But nonetheless, maybe a good thing on short rest, they go to SoFi and then you're outside of Canada where, hey, maybe they felt like there was a little less pressure and just focused on the game. and boo ya man they execute and Portnard had some pretty funny comments like how did Canada all of a sudden become good at soccer

and here we are man round one of the best 16 countries going on I would have only known Alfonso Davies as the only Canadian soccer player before that tournament even began Well that's what I was going to on your pump up video you know Wayne Gretzky comes on a pump up video for the World Cup team they're like holy shit

How many guys do you think know who you are? Buddy, I legit say it at the start of the video. I go, boys, what an honor to be here. I said, I go, 95% you in that room have no fucking clue who I am right now. That's being generous. I go. One guy's like, no, I'm on Ryan. I've seen this guy on Ryan.

He's all over it. He stole my girl. I, so I pan down to this shirt right here. And I said, you guys wouldn't know the guy who sent me over. and it was from the Gretzky hockey school jersey. So I pan down. They're like, oh, Drake? What's it?

Isn't that one of the OVO? OVO. OVO. OVO. OVO. She's saying on the chat, imagine the coach never, imagine the coach never showed it to the team. That's what we could find out if we ever. Hey,

what if the coach never even asked for the video and it was Foles? Oh, shit. Then that means one of you guys would have stored his number as 99 under 99. under 99. That would have been diabolical right there. But, you know, we're going to get into all. We kind of haven't mentioned the action around the NHL. We knew this was going to happen, but it's electric.

We're going to get into. We are blessed, boys. Yeah, very blessed. We're truly blessed. Our sport is continuing to impress. It's on the world stage now and it just keeps getting better and better and better. People are kind of hating the fact that we're somewhat on board with the super team thing. Like, I don't know about you guys.

but this shit's exciting. Fuck, yeah. And I do self-admittedly have to say this. So they beat Qatar, wasn't able to watch the game. Then they play against Swiss. I dial in. I'm watching.

Well, of course they lose, right? Because everything I touch in Canada turns to shit, right? I left the Leafs. They got Werenzky and Bobrovsky ready to sign. They got Gavin McKenna fucking, you know, collabing with little Bieber on stage there. everything, Chica's touching turns to gold

and they fucking get the, the, the radish signed up for eight years. So, so I don't watch the Swiss game, or I do watch the Swiss game, they lose. So I decide I'm not going to, I'm not going to fuck things up for Canada here. I go on a big, long hike during the game. Like literally as soon as it starts, I go on the hike.

So obviously when I get service, Canada flags, congratulations. So I guess I am somewhere. of a bandwagon fan, but I'm kind of, I think I've taken over for Drake as the curse. So I will I will not be tuning in to You won't watch a minute. I will not.

Okay, okay. So if you, if you think I'm not loyal to the soil, I will I'm gonna be walking around with a blindfold on like that fucking movie that the lady from what's the whom I'm thinking of? Which one? She's got the blindfold on and she's like going through the forest. I got no, Sandra Bullock.

I got no like, it's, speed, she's on a bus that's getting, Keanu Reeves. Not speed, not speed. I don't know. A bunch of... Is it like Blackbird or something? I don't know.

I don't know. That's... We're going to need some help. I will say, though, we did do a deal with draft kings where it's as Barstow's doing as a whole. We got Canada as our team. So if Canada does make... We're in that.

And we picked... I saw that and I was like, are we in that? We're in it. So if Canada wins. If Canada makes it to the World Cup final, we get a $15,000 dollar free bet courtesy of draft kings. So we're pulling for Canada, boys. And you know, we're betting on the Leafs

to win the Cup next year. Oh, yeah, business hopping right back in. No, I mean. And I'll say this. Not only loyal to the soil, but you Leafs fans should be fucking gargling my nutbag right now for hopping off. Everything is gone

your way. Literally, give me the timeline of when I hopped off. The number 12 lottery ball, Gavin McKenna, Beber. Like, tell me what else has happened. Well, I'm going to pump your tires first, buddy, because I thought you'd come out guns of blazing at this. A while back when all the heated rivalry discussion was going on,

and I don't know if it was live recording or at dinner, you were like, boys, there are so many women that are going to be watching the NHL now. And I was like, what do you talk about? Did you see those ratings? Did you see the ratings? Yes, we talked about this at Penn State when we were in the, that private room and all you guys are like rolling your eyes at me you guys you guys think i'm

fucking stupid no i think you're a stupid genius so yeah part of it's true but you're also a genius in ways so i'm not just thinking you're stupid i was saying at this dinner i'm saying like these guys who were in this hockey show that have all of a sudden attracted all these women that are calling it the a court the boy aquarium like all these all of a sudden all these rockets are hockey games with guys jerseys on. They're following them on Instagram. Now you're seeing this follow page where like all these hockey guys are having to start

unfollowing some of these pages. But these guys were all of a sudden on runways with Valenciago, with Eve St. Laurent, like you could tell the impact it was having on the female community and the draw. So what were the numbers and growth

from the female audience? 138% from last season. which is kind of nuts if you think. All it took was a little cock sucking, boys. It took a couple guys stand up 69 in each other

in a fake hockey league and we got women watching this sport everywhere. So shout out the women watching. How can they prove that? I don't understand how they can prove it. Can you just trust me for one time, Keith? Oh, I trust you, yeah. No, no, he banged it out of the park.

He banged it out of the 100%. saying we're being homophobic about this. What I mean? No, I'm saying about the fact that all it took was a little cock sucking. We are, we, I'm going to vote for this right now, and this might be a hot take. We should be doing two pride nights per team next year. I want two pride nights. Okay.

She's saying also, some are saying it was Jack Hughes and Team USA. They got women into hockey. I have no doubt that's part of it. I swear to God, I'm going to get some credit. I'm going to put that at 15 percent. I'm going to put those two guys licking each other. up and down in a fake hockey league at 85%. Let's do a poll.

Let's do a poll. What's the poll? Let's smoke a pole and do a poll. Shout out women watching the amazing game of hockey. Show to the ladies. Hey, and since we're on the ladies topic, we are going to have three females attending, what, development camp for the Edmonton Oilers?

Yes, we got Abby Murphy. I just read, Chloe, Primerano. Primarano. Pobbs isn't going to be there. saying that right and Caitlin Kramer so I mean I might put my 15,000 dollar freebed if Canada reaches the World Cup final one of those girls to make the Oilers next season I'm telling you that's that's where we're headed now boys we're buzzing around we're talking over we got the PWA HLela Edwards was crushing the draft scene so we're going to get into the draft a little bit but I think we kind

want to start with um we want to start with the players we know the players that are established the guys who are moving around like we haven't seen in a long time because there's action everywhere. Am I crazy? Is my CTE kicking in? Have we not talked about the Babcock press conference? I think we did. No, I don't think we did. We didn't know.

I think they did this on purpose. They did it on Tuesday. We finished recording last podcast. Wait, really? In his brain right now. I think they did it on purpose. No, we didn't. We talked about it on the group chat.

They thought they could make us miss a news cycle of those. Are you sure? Are you sure? You're confused because you discussed it on game notes with the guys. Okay. I went on game notes. I went on game notes, which by the way, not to like pump my own tires. I went on game notes before I was playing golf with buddies. We were playing in a one day member guest at Old Sandwich.

We were staying over. So then we went back out after. We won the tournament. And then we went back out. And on the nine holes, we played. I shot 31. I made five birdies and four pars. So I guess talking about babs,

like I know I had to throw that in there. Why did I have to throw that in there? People like shut up and talk about Babs. No, no, I want to hear about every shot of that 9. We did a podcast. For new listeners, for new listeners,

there was an episode where I got into the mass am and literally went shot by shot. There had to be people who like dogs were kicked. Children were yelled at. That's why for the TV gig, I thought the pod was done. I thought we lost them. Well, either way, Babbs press conference,

I'm going to start off with this. Shut up to his old baby. I've had three different people that played for Babs reach out to me and say a lot of people are clueless in what they're talking about and that I love playing for him. I just want to say that because that is an awesome. Three out of what, 700 guys that play. Yeah, granted, no doubt.

There are obviously more people. way out in the open that hate him. But I didn't want to, you know, to be fair. We're a non-biased pod. Oh, no, I'm pretty biased. I'm pretty biased. But no, not when it comes to real topics like this. Like you're trying to deliver it like down the middle.

For the same reason I said, buddy, I never experienced it. I have no personal ill will towards the guy. But to counter that, the stories I have heard and apparently the guys he wasn't down with, I think that he was going out of his way to make their life downright miserable. And that's kind of like a part of the issue that obviously that's why I brought it here. I didn't, I would have never said nothing. I almost forgot to say it.

The only reason I said it was because we were doing the Columbus Blue Jacket breakdown. And I was like, oh yeah, I got a call the other day from Tyson Barry. No, buddy, buddy, you're misremembering. We were like signing off and I go, yo, wait, biz, you got to say what you told me on the phone before we recorded. Okay, that's right. And you're like, oh, yeah. And you know, the guy's resigning. Well, so come to the point.

point of the press conference, yeah, I was on game notes. That's crazy we hadn't discussed this. I mean, one of the crazier press conferences I've ever seen based on the fact that, like, most people, I think, thought he'd get up there. And he would be asked, and shout out Jason Greger, who did say, like, how do you be a hard coach without being a dick? Which is pretty funny because he's straight up calling him a dick. At least he has been a dick.

So he basically was asked about the Columbus situation and was like, ah, I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't say that. He goes, I didn't bench anyone. I didn't take away. I didn't sit anyone. They're like, yeah, but you never coached a game. So I don't think that that was possible.

But it was like, when that hit the airwaves, it was pretty funny based on what people thought would come. I thought it was an S&L skit. And the fact that he's like, yeah, like, I don't know. Like, I think he said when you make people feel uncomfortable, you want to maybe look back and see. what you could do could do different.

But that was it. That was the extent. There was absolutely no apology. There was absolutely no like, ah, yeah, like kind of messed up there. But you know what? The Oilers,

they know what they're signing up for here. They know exactly what they're signing up for here. And now I'm starting to think, based on the text I got and his past and his record, this guy might, they might end up being unbelievable. Were the guys who texted you?

Were they stars of their team? I was just going to ask that, Jans. one was, two weren't. Okay. And he almost, in that press conference, it almost reminded me of someone who just doesn't read the news, doesn't have any social media. It almost was like it never even happened.

He was just like, oh, my wife told me to shut it down. I shut it down. I was good at being retired and I went back to being retired. Like, my wife, my wife said, hey, I don't like the vibe here. I don't like the vibe here. He's like, I was golfing every day. I'd fucking speedbagged those losers, a chicklets and a sandbagger, one on three. bringing any time, you punk-ass bitches?

He probably doesn't even know who we are. No, no, exactly. No, but, um, I think he texted me about a charity golf tournament one time. Before or after you got him canned? Well, I think it was after. Didn't he ask for, didn't he ask for a sign stick one year? To do nothing. Didn't he ask for a signed stick from you one year?

No. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was fucking funny. He asked Wayne for one and Wayne texted biz. But yeah, that was funny. I will, I'll say this. And it goes back to like what you just said.

I think that like if he's got no problem with you and you're of used to him in the lineup and things are going well, I also found, I think it was on, I want to see it was one of the TSN radio shows. It wasn't on overdrive. But Dan Winnick went on. And I play with Dan Winnick. Great player, great skater, very useful. Like, you know, Dept Centerman, good at winning draws, good penalty kill. and he said that the first year he had him, it was fine.

And then the second year, he was a little bit banged up. And he's like, he made me hate hockey. Like he made my life miserable. Like he made me not want to come to the rink. And that was the first time that had ever happened in his career. So, you know, once again, a role guy, I'm really interested, to see how this situation shakes out. I will remain the guy who's like, I obviously think he's done stuff the guys in the past.

that is complete bullshit. But I do believe in rehabilitation and second chances. Now, some of you might say, he literally got X'd out for that type of behavior and didn't make it to game one of the regular season. And then at a press conference, basically saying, like, yeah, my old lady wants us to get the fuck out of here and collect paychecks and go back to being retired.

So I respect his ability to remain an asshole and just be who he is. Let's go. Yep. Let's go. could put the 15 grand if we ever win it on if he even coaches a game this year. No, no, he's he's coaching this year. Okay. And I guess him trying to get a hold of those three girls' phones at the prospect count.

He's got like a, he's got like a handle with him. He's like, don't do it. Don't you do it. He's got the airplay on the jumbotron. Just watching the skate. Oh, yeah, this is what you're up to with the ladies. Okay. All right.

Yeah, but I guess my brain, the Oilers fans' brains of like, wow, you know what, this guy, we got a coach who's going to hold everybody accountable. He's going to figure this whole thing out. Like, they still don't have any goaltending, really. So I guess that that's the big question mark. But I'm right. I'm glad you brought that up. I would have said Bobrovsky, but the Leafs are going to get them. And for two guys who hopped off the wagon of their teams, we seem to can't, we can't get them out of our heads.

You know, Leafs and Oilers talk to start out. Can't wait to hear about this one on Twitter. No, no, no, no. That was just, you just brought that up quick. I would say the number one storyline in the past week is the Jason Robertson saga. So it's very funny. I feel like we, you know, Elliot Friedman. Shout out to Elliot Friedman.

How do I word this? It's like every year he's becoming better and better and better at his job. Like you have, you have Adam Schaefter and I think it's Ian Rappell. support, right, in football, like kind of two guys. And then shams and basketball, I guess he's the one. Elliot now, it seems as though, and being an insider, I can't imagine how stressful it is. We've talked about that a lot. There's a lot of different guys in the league.

It seems like everybody kind of has a mishap here and there. Not a mishap, but like, you know, they get some news. They report it doesn't happen or something goes different. Like, am I, is Elliot batting a thousand? He's just getting the story first and then he, it's correct every time. I think he's, I think in some cases he's the one doing the trades. Like he's the one even calling the shots on some of them. It's crazy.

Like he tweets it out and the GM's like, I guess we're doing it. Yeah. Elliot Wembe Mianna. So, uh, fucking seven two dunking on guys. Yeah, the alien. You gotta start calling the aliens. So the alien insider, he reports that Jason Robertson turned down, um, obviously it would have been a trade to Seattle.

It's then come out that it was three first round picks and a younger player. Now, in the outline here, G writes, the younger player was not Jake O'Brien, which is a big time prospect that they have. And the offer was $15 million for eight years. So he would have been the second highest paid player in the league. And then actually, I did see a report from Saravale that said it was actually 15.6 a year. So it would have been whatever would have made it $125 million contract. Crazy. Now, a bunch of different ways we can go with this.

before I throw it to you, Biz, I do want to say Jason Robertson, it's also been reported by Elliot has been offered $12 million a year by Dallas. If he's trying to say he wants to play and remain in Dallas, that's bullshit. I'm sorry. Like, you don't, buddy, if they're offering you what Rontin is making, yes, enormous goal, amazing goal score, 96 points last year.

the kid, he's a sniper. But don't tell me that you're getting off for $12 million a year and you really want to stay and you're not taking it. Am I wrong in saying that? Not at all. So here's the little pushback that I would have with you. Obviously, we're talking different salary cap and knowing what we're heading towards more.

He's signing a year later. And I think that his camp and him have probably felt disrespected in a lot of ways to the fact that maybe it's taken till now for them to offer that and or the conversation of his name around getting traded and them moving on from him. Like can we agree that like I'm pretty sure that there has been constant rumblings about them trading him and moving off of him? Yeah, like two years now, I'd say. You've been hearing it?

And I don't know, maybe they are rumors, but I'm assuming that part of it has to be the truth. and given the fact that he has performed and has performed well for them in playoffs, maybe even more so than Rantingan, especially this year, maybe not going back to last year with that first round fiasco that Rottinan had on Rottenon's revenge as we know it. So I feel that he's probably thinking like, well, now that you want me to stay after you made me wait all this time and essentially prove it down to the goal line,

and I performed the way I did, and this is where the market's at, and this is what all these other players are signed. for Capri Soff just signed for 17. I think 13, 13 and a half range seems a little bit more realistic as a number for a guy who's scored what 40 goals, how many times now? He has 43 times. His high is 46. This year, 45.

The other years he didn't, he had 35. He had 29. And his first rookie year, he had 17. I mean, he's got 490 points at 456 games. His goal scoring, he's got 23 goals and 62. playoff games. I'm just... So to play devil's advocate with you, I view it a little

bit similar and not... Listen, there's a lot of differences, but to the Marner situation in a sense of him feeling disrespected. Like, they try to move him to Carolina. They try... He's like, I'm just trying to focus... It's part of the game, man. It's part of the game, though. No, I get

that, but in return, I don't expect him to hold that same loyalty to them. That's all I'm saying. And I think that we're a pro, for the most part, a pro player podcast. I think there is levels to like him like, say, hey, man, you're getting offered eight times 12 to stick around on a winning team. And, and it's a pretty fucking good number.

That's what Marner just got last year. Look what he just did in playoffs. Like, that's a, like, like Jack Eichol just took a discount at 13 and a half. I would view him as more valuable. So in this, basically this cap era, it's like, hey, man, if we want to win here in Dallas, we're hoping that you take this nice deal at the eight years that we're allowed to give you at a. essentially a bit of, that's a hometown

discount based on what these other guys are signing for. Yeah, based on his numbers. So now let's shift the focus to Seattle and what this means for Seattle. And I heard an interesting comment today and it was, I believe it was the, oh God, the morning cup of coffee. I'm brutal with the names, boys.

Morning cup of coffee. Johnny Lazarus and Kobe Cohen. And Kobe Cohen. And he mentioned how it's a shot for the no state tax state. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Washington state does not currently have a traditional state personal income tax on wages or salaries. However, however, a 9.9 individual income tax household earnings over $1 million per year was signed into law, scheduled to take effect in 2028 and be collected starting in 2029. So if you don't think that the state, now implementing a 10% tax on any dollar earned over a million dollars is going to affect their sports teams.

You're out of your fucking mind. Yeah. Over to you, Yans. Over to you, Witt. Go ahead, Keith. I get why, honestly, he wouldn't want to go to Seattle. I mean, it's, I don't think it's one of those places where guys necessarily want to go right now. They're not proven yet.

Once they are proven, guys will want to go there because it's a beautiful state. like we've been there it's nice nice views they take unreal care of the guys so but they're just not there yet they're a new team so I get that I honestly thought when he didn't sign that deal at $15 million deal it was like you know you hear Merrill's talk about it all the time these guys making too much money I thought maybe he looked at himself like I don't want to make that much money I just want to kind of go about it and then you hear that he's signing no no no no no time so I do not know what's going on with this guy

personally I would have stayed in Dallas with that team. It's kind of the team you came up with, you know, every year we're talking about them that they could be cup contenders. And if you take a good hometown discount, then you can promise that you're getting better, your team's getting better. So I get why he didn't want to go to Seattle. Obviously, he has the leverage to be able to do that.

He's a proven player. He's going to make huge money no matter what. But man, it's like at what point does, where does he want to go? He's not, that's what I wonder. I also wonder that if he is as, I don't want to say looking at that roster and where they are cap-wise, because of these contenders we talk about, I would say they're one of those teams that are the most constraint with the cap of guys they have to re-up. I think Maverick Bork is up for a contract. What is he going to command?

And if, gee, if you could put it up in the chat here, I don't think they have a ton of money to play with. They got the Harley deal kicking in. Obviously, if you're playing Rottenon and then Robertson, let's say Robertson does sign for 12, they don't have a ton of money to fill a decent amount of holes that they need to plug and play compared to what I think other teams have. So maybe he's looking at this situation saying, well, if we don't have Larkin and, you know, I don't know, Rupé hints, they have $9 million in cap space right now, but they have some guys to sign here.

They got some, so they're going to have to move off. of maybe one or two good players, even in order to squeeze him in. So I don't, maybe he's looking at it like, hey, can I maybe end up getting traded and signed to a team that is even more so in win now mode,

a team that is also maybe in a no state tax, or maybe just an even better environment where he once again thinks it's like, this is the better future for me. I'm going to make a little bit more. And their next five year trajectory looks a little bit healthier than Dallas. But the team, The teams that are in win now right now cannot afford a $12 million player. I don't know.

That's not true because Dallas is win mode. Dallas. No, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think part of it is Dallas is like, we got to switch some things up here. It's not working. I'm not just saying Jason Robertson, but look how good these teams are. They haven't got over the hump. They haven't even got to a final.

So it's like we got to, something's got to be moved around. Jim Nill is one of the best in the game. He obviously understands like there needs to be changes. here. Imagine if they do Jason Robertson for Dylan Larkin and then they do Thomas Harley and a pick or a prospect to Columbus for Zach Werensky. Everyone

wins there. Everyone wins there. Well, I think Zach Wrenzzi's going to the Leafs according to Twitter. And listen, I'm not Hey, I'm not a Leafsman. If he does, that's actually great for the game. Because I don't want to see all these players American players refusing to play in Canada. I don't think it's great to the league.

I'd be kind of shocked if that would have happened. And I said it last pod So you know he's going to then sign in Canada He's literally going to Everything I say the opposite happened So he's going there But I do feel

I feel for Seattle a little bit Because buddy they offered Remember they offered Panarin They offered Panarin huge dough Right and they're trying And as Keith said like Yeah that's just not a spot right now

That if guys are really looking to win Now you would say like Well you could get anyone If you're offering enough money that's not even working for them. So it kind of, you know, that sucks for like the fans of that team, Mike. But I guess you'd look at the management, be like, they're trying. We just can't get anyone to go here.

But I'll be steadfast in saying that if a team is very good, it doesn't matter where it is. Guys will want to play there, man. Like when I was on the Oilers, it was a nightmare to get traded to the Oilers. I don't think now if you're traded to the Oilers, you're upset at all. It's just people want to be on good teams. Yes, all this noise about Vegas and Dallas. and the Florida teams in Nashville probably. There's still a significant amount of players.

We just want to be on a good team. Now, Robertson, I do want to throw up the picture of him in the Little Caesar's uniform. I don't know if you guys saw this one because if you got a son and he's really skilled and he's a little chubby at 12 years old, don't give up. Don't ever give up.

Because look at that picture of this kid. It's unbelievable. He's just his little chubby, chubby fact kid in a little seizures uniform and he scores 40 now every year. That was Fudge Kid. Ben, man, tuck it. But when you look at Minnesota's now on all those guys'

list of where they want to go, five, ten years ago, that wasn't the case. Nobody wanted to go to Minnesota. You're right. That's a perfect example. You got to build it. Now guys want to play for Billy G. Guys want to play for the group of players that they have in there. They're a team that's going out getting better every year,

making big trade, whatever it is. So, you've got to build it. You got to have winning seasons. I mean, what Seattle, you know, one around their first year? Was that their first year? Yeah. Yes, Colorado. Yeah. So, I mean, it's there. You just got to keep, keep going. It'll come. Like, it's a, it's a young franchise. I think you almost have to stick with the way they did it when they first got in. You just, you have four second lines. And people are, you know, obviously they're taking their fair share of shrapnel online where like people are saying that them and, uh, them and Nashville are having a mid off. it's like I mean fuck who cares man get a bunch of misfits midoffs and uh in there and uh

and I just don't turn that fucking around I just can't imagine like Caprisov make it 17 million it's ridiculous obviously you know he earned it and if Robertson's on your team making 15 two wingers like I'm not spending my money like that but I'm not doing that as I agree with you and I think like kind of like you guys mentioned too

It's like just like Minnesota, how about Carolina? They just won a Stanley Cup this year. Rotten and didn't want to sign there. Marner didn't want to be traded there. Like there were guys where like, ah, so you kind of going back to what you said with as far as Seattle. And I think it may even even been you, Yans, is like you essentially have to build it from the ground up. Yeah. And you might get rejected at first, but then, you know, the prom queen might come around.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's an interesting time, though, because G. G brings up Werensky and God, of all the people that you hear want to be traded like this is a guy and we don't even know for sure he wants to be traded. Now there was discussions that they were

going to talk after the draft. He has two years remaining on his deal. All these guys seem to have two years remaining. There's a bunch of big dogs. It's like the Quinn Hughes move. There's a bunch of guys who can be extended this summer like McCar's one. But Werenski, that's

kind of crazy because that one just makes Columbus fans want to puke, right? And you have this season, and it's kind of disappointment after disappointment. And then they're on an insane run this year. The Olympics happened. They just lose it. Bones goes completely off the handle

after the last game of the regular season. But we have a Norris trophy winner. We have the best defenseman in the league this year, at least. And now all of a sudden there's rumblings that, like, he's pretty much said he's not going to resign there when his deal's done. and now it's like, holy shit, man. Like if I'm a team, this is a guy, that's a guy I'm paying $17.

It's like the Quinn Hughes move. Like he's got, you got, you basically got him for two years. Well, he got traded what, like a month or two into the season? And you're at least, November or December. You at least get a little bit of time with him to convince him, hey, this is, you know, we're trying to build something here and get it. You get him for at least that.

And if not, and he doesn't end up want to sign there, you flip him and you could probably just make, you know, at least get back. three quarters of your return because I would imagine he's going to go somewhere where he wants to sign. So to get a blue chip guy like that to hop in, that is, it's crazy times. Do you think Larkin would want to stay in Detroit if they go get Zach Wrenski? Or is the relationship too far gone? They're like best buddies, right?

Well, isn't, isn't Iserman just saying, yeah, sorry, dude. You're going to be playing on the red winds? That's another discussion. This Larkin thing. So I should have even did a very kind of brief press conference or interview wherever. He said, yeah, you know, we were told he wants to be traded. He's got five years left on his deal. And basically like, we'll see what happens.

I'm not trading this guy unless I love the offer. And then it's brought up like, well, what if what if they don't trade him? At this point, dude, like, can you, can he go back there? Like, think about it. And you're thinking of like the team and the room. It's all about the room. So he goes back, he's not captain anymore, right? That's a storyline.

No. Okay. And then, and then... Wait, you're, so you're saying automatic sees off the jersey? I would imagine, Stevie Y. What do you think? I don't know. Like, buddy, I don't know.

I don't know. I can't remember a situation like this. Remember back in the day, obviously before everything would get leaked out and all that stuff. Like, you knew guys in your team that wouldn't want it to get traded or guys would come in be like, hey, I'm trying to get out of here, whatever. And the players, I don't think mind as much because it's like, okay, whatever. This guy wants to go do his own

whatever it is. I agree with that a little bit. It's the fans that you're pissing off, right? And you're the captain of that team. So I would imagine they'd take this if he does go back, which for him, it's like, whatever. It's, it's a letter on New Jersey. I get it. He was a captain of that team. You make the guy they give it to give you a watch. He makes out like a bandit. Cut the new presidential and I'm playing in Dallas. No state tag.

mustn't have to talk to the media after every game. He's like, wow, I'll stay here for the rest of this contract. No, but I just think that, so G's saying if Werencki were to go to Dallas, Detroit, would he want to stay? That's a great question. No, I think, but what do you give up? And, you know, you got to give something to get something. I don't know what they have in the prospect pool.

I also think that you're looking at, like, the exact same situations handled differently. I think that Staeos with Kachuk, where they kind of presented to them, they said, we want to do this clean. You never got public also. Never went public. It never went public. And I think that some people might say they were a little underwhelmed with the return. It's like, you're not really like you're giving up a, you're giving up your fearless leader

and a guy who's a top six guy and, you know, brings it in every situation, basically. Made playoff the last two years. You're not replacing that in your roster and you're kind of in win now mode where some people, especially Ottawa fans, would have liked to have seen Stales not maybe bend the knee as much, which

Stevie Wise probably hearing this and saying, I don't give a fine. So you had a newer rookie GM who's trying to be sensitive because you don't want to all of a sudden you piss him off. You don't know how other things unravel. Maybe it deters other guys from sying there or not wanting to be a part of Ottawa, if kind of management drags that out, where you also have a guy who's won as many cups

as Stevie Y has, who has as much respect as he has saying, I'm not compromising my roster or my lineup because you don't want to fucking honor what you signed for your eight-year contract. I would just be, when you listen to Stevie Y speak when he did that thing, he talks like a lawyer. He doesn't give you anything. I would just love to hear him open, raw, and honest about his feelings. on it. What would you pay for that behind a paywall? Oh, oh. I'd

pay big dough to hear him just actually like say how he really feels. And who knows how ownership feels, but I just feel like it's really hard to bring a guy back. I know like it's easy to say like, hey, if I don't like a trade, I'm bringing them back. But when the captain and the team's like,

I want out, it gets public. Like what's the, what are the fans saying opening night when they announce his name? It's just it's just headaches. It's just like they talked about all the headaches in Ottawa because it was rumored that Brady didn't want to be there. And it was kind of, you know, Canada can kind of really run with things maybe a little bit more than United States and the markets and the media. But if you bring Larkin back, it's just, I don't know. Maybe I'm completely wrong.

And that he's right. And the team's like, I don't care. This guy's our boy, is our captain. And we know he's going to play as hard as he can. But it's just kind of a headache. For a team who doesn't need a headache, they got to get in the playoffs. So it's like you're starting the year on this foot of like,

oh, this guy doesn't even want to be here, but he's here now. The fans are pissed off. It would basically be where he'd have to get like seven goals in the first seven games and then the team's winning. It's like, all's forgotten. He's here and we're buzzing. If I'm being honest,

I do think that Dallas probably needs him the most. Yeah. Up the middle. If they want to change one thing about their roster, like hints, like sometimes it's hard for him to stay help. I'm not like, it's not a chirp or nothing like that. But even if he is and he's your number one with him and Larkin as your one two slot,

like that's a different look without Robertson that I don't mind and still consider them a contender. And then like you said, if you're able to go get Worensky and flip off of Harley, I mean, But Columbus can't, Columbus cannot, they can't get picks for Worentz. No, no, no, no. So I guess G saying Harley, gee, Harley just sign that. deal. He doesn't have like a no move clause or no. So it's like now this guy's stuck in Columbus. He can't go anywhere, right? Like that's the exact type of player you need. And Elliot, Columbus is a

great place to play. Shut out Arbar. And Elliot said it on 32 thoughts this morning. He's like, they're not going to get a better offer than Thomas Harley in. No. You're just not going to. Agree. Okay. So that's, you already got him locked in. The only thing that sucks is like all of a sudden you're paying him. I believe he'd be making a little bit more. Or maybe is Worensky making nine and a half on his deal? Yes. Pretty sure. So they're making the same amount, but I guess moving forward, like that's a, that's going to be what your,

your average, you know, top pairing defensemen's going to be making. How do you know Robo would say yes to go to Detroit? That's, you don't. Well, that was the little, the little seizures. He's from there. He's from there, too. I think he's from Cali, but he ended up playing, like, once he got really good, I think they went out there.

Years four through eight of Thomas Harley's contract with is the no move clause. So that's why you want to deal in. now. Oh, the old Whitney conchack. Nothing the first three, ship him out and then ship him again, and then boom, he's in Russia. So let's hope it doesn't work like that for Thomas Harley. But we got a shout out, well, a couple of teams, Washington. Washington went out and made some move. So a weird season in Washington. Carberry comes in two years ago. They have this awesome season. They make the playoffs. They win around. And then this year, big disappointment. Obviously, the year they made it was the OB goal chase. And then this year, it was,

it was upsetting to the fans. And you know, some people are probably wondering, like, what's going on with Obie? What's this team do? Well, they make a splash. They go out and get Cairo. This is exactly like Robertson on a way lesser level. It's just been rumored for so long that Cairo was going to get traded. So McMichael goes the other way.

And I believe some, that wasn't just a one for one. For Connor McMichael, Milton Gastron and the number 16 pick in Friday in the draft. Sorry. So I like this a lot. And then at the same time, they do the sign and try. trade or the trade and sign for Alex Tuck, okay? Alex Tuck gets 10 and a half. That's pretty much where we thought it would land.

I guess Buffalo didn't want to go there. Buffalo decided that was too much money for them, but all of a sudden, Washington gets two guys who can skate, who can score. Big. For capital's fans, I think they're like, oh, that's, that's a nice, that's a nice move. That's a nice, like, couple days for Capitals fans, I think. Oh, absolutely. Are you kidding me?

I would say, like, man, I'm just, I'm happy for Kyru. You know, I think that he maybe in some cases, if not like a decent amount, left a lot more to be desired. If there's one coach that I think that could untap his full potential, it's Carberry. You know, he's been incredible since he stepped in. You could tell he's a player's coach and he's able to inspire guys. You saw what he was able to do for, for Pierre-Luc Dubois's career. I mean, look at how much Strom's taken off since he's been. been there.

Chickren, I mean, the, like, I'm sure the goalie coach and assistants have a lot to do with, but Logan Thompson,

like every guy that's went over there in, in these retool moves that they make, they end up panning out. And you talk about size, like Dylan Strom's, a big guy down the middle,

Pierre Luke Dubois, you have the Protest brothers who are absolute monsters out there. Wilson. Like, and then Hudson on D, like he looked sick at the end of the other. Like,

Oh, buddy, I think that the retool moves that they've made over the last like four or five year stretch, that is pinkies up all day long. So credit to that management staff. And do I think that it's a contract that's maybe not going to like age as nice? Yeah. But man, like you have to go fill that slot. I would imagine that Ovi's coming back as the DH. Okay, you think this, man, I kind of thought maybe this means he's not coming back. I think there's no way that he is not coming back with that roster.

Yeah, I agree. And I think that if you have a chat with him, you have to say, hey, listen, I understand you have to be tapped a certain way mentally to think that you're the greatest in order to eventually be the greatest goal score of all time. But if you're playing the type of minutes that you were playing in the prime of your career or even towards the end, I don't really think we have a chance to win a Stanley Cup. if you're willing to maybe kind of unflate the ego in that sense a little bit.

Yeah, but he can't play third or fourth line because those are energy lines. I think you have them playing home games, Yager style. Honestly, buddy, you might. Barry Bond style. I think Gary Bettman needs to step in and say, pump him full of whatever drugs he needs to get out there.

Come on here. Guys, the greatest goal score of all time. He needs a little bit of leniency here. They should be able to dress an extra player and he only plays power play. The DH. Yes. That's the OV rule.

The DH rule. If he comes back and he gets a DZone start like he did in like game 73 or whatever it was, like we cannot have a D zone start. We have to have that at least go down. But wow. Okay. So I was thinking the exact opposite here. I was thinking,

oh, they get some scoring. But now you're saying because the roster looks this much better from last year that he comes back. Did I read something he's announcing like in Russia? on a certain day in July if he's coming back or not, maybe that was a phony tweet or something. What did they call the LeBron one?

The decision. The decision, yeah. Do you think Tuck, obviously with Buffalo, not wanting to bring him back? They're going to call this one the injection. You think Buffalo? Because of that, I think it was the second round where he wasn't very good. They were just like, hey, listen, we're going to move on.

Because he's been a nice player for them. He's kind of, when he went there, too, he's from upstate New York. Like he's kind of the guy that, you know, he wanted to go there. Now, guys, you see more and more guys wanting to go to Buffalo. So, like, you got to give him a little bit of credit for that. Big time. And he was awesome there. The guys loved him.

He loved being there. Remember we saw him at Chickas Cup? He was all fired up. But you just brought up something that's wild. And this is something that's awesome for the fans of the Sabres in the city of Buffalo. Apparently, like, they are in major discussions with Winnipeg of O'Connor Halibuck. and the fact is that if Helibuck actually said, like, yeah, I'll go to Buffalo, like, that, that, the thought of, the thought of him wanting to go to Buffalo or anyone wanting to go to Buffalo and him being like, yeah, Buffalo's a spot a little.

It's basically Canada. It's, yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess. If he goes to Buffalo, you should have to roll blade from Boston, Buffalo. I couldn't even make it like 30 yards on the highway. let alone from Boston Well, that's because you were going over the rumble strips. That's true. But I do like, man,

imagine the sabers with Hellebuck. I would love it. And the sabers, the sabers with that Byram deal, right? And then they get the fourth overall pick. They draft this, Daxon Rudolph. Now we're kind of getting into the draft.

Oh, we're all over the place now. We are, I hope everyone's okay with that. We're just all over the place. That's what the league is right now, though. It's all over the bucket place. And then they go out.

When they got Owen Zellwig, I was like, fuck me, Yarmow. What a dog. Because I really think with the D that they have in Buffalo, I could see Zellwiger being exactly like Byram there. Right? And then you were able to get the fourth overall pick. You grab another defenseman that's supposed to be obviously very good.

He's the fourth overall pick. So kind of a masterclass by Yarmow, I think. Yeah. I feel when you're a player like that, when you're in a situation where you're not overexposed, it's an easier path to development. So let's take Byram, for example, where I felt that was the way in Colorado.

Obviously, they felt like, okay, we have enough guys ahead of him who maybe do what he does and what he's going to command financially. So they moved off of him. Obviously not the best trade for, I think it was middle stat at the time. And I love his game, Byron.

I think that all of a sudden he's going to a situation, though, where now he's a little bit more exposed. because you don't have Owen power, you don't have Samerson, you don't have Dahlene, right? And a way worse team. So it's like overexposed by the minutes he'll play,

and this is not dogging bone by him. I think he's awesome. Not at all. But all this big is he won the best last weekend here. Did you? I met him in Jackson. He was here. He just got married.

I met his wife who he just got married to and then they're having twins, two girls. Good for him. Wow. That's unreal. Oh, buddy, nicest guy in the world. Had a great conversation with him. Hey, Davidson, fucking give him 14 million.

That's how big of a beauty he is. And for him, it's like he's going to be the guide there. He's going to get a ton of power play reps. Like he's probably looked at himself. Like, I remember him at World Juniors. He was unreal. And like, he's probably like, hey, listen, I'm a power play guy. I need to be out there.

I'm a number one guy you think he's saying. Like I, and I don't know if like a number, like, not the true Chris Pronger number one, but like a number one power play guy. And he hasn't, he hasn't got that. So he's going to go into Chicago with some good. forwards and stuff and be like, I'm betting on myself, hopefully can put up big numbers. I like the trade for him because he's probably thinking to himself, I need a shot to prove who I am as a player. I haven't done it as much as maybe I thought coming into the league.

And, you know, he's betting on himself. I love it. So when that trade was announced, it seemed like the social media side. And I was including this like, wow, I think Buffalo kind of just flee Chicago. So that's a lot, a lot to pay. And now I think mainly it's because the role that Byram's always played has, but he's behind McCar, right? He's behind the guys in Buffalo, you mentioned. So that's what everyone thinks of him or thinks of the trade. But if he, but if we're all wrong or incorrect, and we haven't seen him have the chance to be the 26 minute a guy, you know, night where number one power play,

minute and a half on every power play, he could go and you're like, holy shit, like that that trade was a lot closer than we thought. But right off the hop, it's like, wow and the main reason was they included that crevier yeah and that and i was like what like i feel like that trade would have been completely fine on both sides without crevier just fourth overall that should have in my opinion got it done especially at the fact that you you can't like obviously during that period it's a tampering period so they can't even negotiate what his contract is going to be so all of a sudden you not only give all that up you hand over every bit of leverage to Byram being like, uh, you just gave everything up for me.

You're not just going to have me here for one year, uh, eight times 12, please. That's, no, I've, I've, yeah, that's, I know, I know, I know, I know. But I mean, the most points. You're overpaid and now you're going to have to overpay. But that might be the pressure of Chicago's desperate, buddy. But there's a, there's a few teams and a few star players being like, okay, we want help now. I'm not waiting for these fucking draft picks to pan out and it goes

back to some of these players and being the superstars and having the leverage. So I feel like that was something that was essentially forced upon Davidson in order to get better now. Yeah. And I think they did. Like last year he had 82 games. He had 42 points. 11 goals. That's

fucking pretty legit. And he, I think when, when Dahlene was gone for a while, he got more power play time. And then when he came back, obviously less. But you get 11 goals next year on Chicago. like that's a monster year. Yeah. But if he gets 11 goals next year and they're not winning,

say he has 11 goals and 46 points and they're like the same Chicago Blackhawks. Yeah. Be like, what the fuck? That's just, that's just how it goes. It's going to be making 12. Yeah.

It's almost like this. They got Seth Jones. They paid him a lot of money to be that number one guy. And it's like, we need a team here. If the team's no good, it's hard for a guy like that. And then what did he end up going over to Florida for? I think he made what, three quarters of his money. Yeah, they, they, they're perfectly slotted in there.

And boom, it's all about the money you're making and the minutes you're playing and how good the team you're on. So I feel like they've, they've jammed themselves up that way. I think if they landed at eight times 10, okay, I'm a lot more, I'm a lot happier with what they gave up and what they locked them in. but if you're looking at eight times, you know, 11 and a half, 12 million and you gave up what you did, it's like, oof, I think that it reeks a little bit of desperation for right now. But as a team that not everybody wants to go to right now, I know Chicago's awesome. They've had their history, but to go out and make that trade, you're essentially making your team better. So I think if you're a Blackhawks fan, you got to respect it, you got to try to, you know, go with it.

Hopefully he can be that guy that you haven't had for a little while and take over. It's funny because he was the fourth overall pick. And so they're just saying, all right, well, based on what, okay, so there's two things. We need to get better, right? And possibly we think that he's better now than any of these defensemen that we would take fourth overall are going to end up being. And even if they don't think that, it's like that's three, four years away. We have to figure this out. Like Chicago, what, when was the last time the Blackhawks were in the playoffs?

Was it when the predators swept them? Probably. But they're also, they need to get better. Like, I'm sure if you talk to anyone in their management with TruthSterm, they know they're not going to win next year. They need to get better to get guys like Baderd to want to stay for a long time. Like they got to just continue to get better and add to their team. Or in three years, four years, he's going to be like, hey, boys, I'm out.

See you. Apparently there's rumblings that they're close to a deal for Bidad. That was the-2020 was the last 10-day playoffs. But that was the COVID bubble. doesn't really count. But you're saying, okay, yeah, because July 1st, Bard can resign. Oh, my God, buddy, talk about leverage.

He could be like, give me 15 a year for eight years. I think that's around the number that came in. Yeah. He's eight times 15. Okay, well, that's kind of jumping ahead. But Chicago and Buffalo obviously made noise. Let's go back to Buffalo for a second. Another incredible move by Yarmro.

So he signs Benson, seven times seven and a half. And but when I see that deal, it's like, the league's changed so much where you come in and you light it up and you do what Celebrini's done or some of these guys. And all of a sudden it's like max money right after your second year. You can sign before the third year ends and boom, you're off. Well, you're better off with some of these guys like Jackson, Blake and Benson who don't light it up. Then you get them seven times seven and a half. and obviously Blake's even less. How that contract is a joke for Buffalo.

That's, that's, and it's obviously, I mean, Benson has grew up in a carnival family. They were traveling around fucking doing the, the Gravatron, and now he's got, he's got,

he's got 52 million bucks. How many basketball shots do you get for that much? Yeah. Oh, fuck. The water in the clown's nose as the horses race across, and he's getting 50 million bucks, but what do you imagine that kid in three years?

And he's making, seven the same way Jackson Blake The potato sack ride. Do you not know what I'm saying about Yeah, he's through the potato sack slide. You want to see, you want to see like, wow, there are some special things about this player, but I want him to get 40 points.

I want him to get 45, 50 points. I don't need an 80, 90 point season out of him because I know it's coming at some point and then we save on the dollars when we re-up them. So it's incredible how it's worked out for certain teams where you see guys that are going to be unreal, that aren't unreal,

yet but are on the cuss. And then now you got, you got Benson making seven and a half. Well, look at their deals. Like, let's go through it. Tage Thompson's is in the $7 million bubble. Josh Stone, $7 million.

Barney, $7 million. I would say it's trending. The way that Power played the second half of the season in playoffs, I would say everybody's fine with him making eight and a half now. Eight and a half is not anything now. It's not, right.

League minimum. He's played into that. Samu's League minimum. though Samuelson's playing for league minimum Samuelson's locked in another what six years at four four sheets unbelievable deal right Dalene I think is the highest paid guy making

11 million but I don't think anybody 11 and a half nobody's got one single problem with that he stuck it out for as long as he has so he deserves the extra coin I mean who else do they have that's on an unreal bargoon deal I got to look up their team real quick We just said Tage.

We said Thompson in the seven bubble. Like we said their whole team. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. But it's just Norris. How much is Norris? How much is Norris making? He actually makes like eight and a half, I think.

Yeah. So he's a fucking signed it with Ottawa. So Buffalo, if they get hellie, oh man, am I excited for him? Norris is 7.95. So he's in the seven bubble. But it was just, that's a great signing.

It's like, I think, you know, Benson's thrilled, the team's thrilled. And, you know, you're hearing like Robertson's going to get 15 million. He has done things. Benson hasn't sniffed yet. But it's like double the money. It's just crazy time. And it's all about a player and his leverage and where you sit. But fuck, that's good work by Buffalo.

Good work by Yarmel. And St. Louis and Alex Steen, they're doing work. They're doing work. Now, Biz, you've chatted with me a couple times about Mason McAval. and maybe what what he could do to reach that next level. And he's traded to the, he's traded to the blues. You kind of,

he fell out, he was a healthy scratch this year and stuff. And I still think there's a special player in there. Right. And now, and you got Monty there. And I'm, um,

you could figure out what's going to happen. Now, interestingly enough, Greg Cronin, Greg Cronin was just hired as their assistant coach. Oh, okay. And I don't necessarily know if the guys loved him in Anaheim, but,

assistant coaches are way different. It's a completely different ballgame, right? But with Mason McTavish, what have you said to me, at least? I just think that if maybe, yeah, like, 82 games is a lot of games. And I think that, like, I don't think it's... Well, now we're playing 84, so. 84. Oh, Jesus, that's right. That's right. I think there's more there.

I think it was a rough start to the year. I think he needed a new scene, kind of like Zegras did. Look what Ziegress did when he got out of there. And I think sometimes you could feel, you know, the reciprocation and energy where maybe he wasn't Q's type of player or maybe Q in some cases was sending a message and or he believed that other guys in the lineup deserved spots as opposed to him in certain games, right?

He was healthy, scratched a few times. Obviously dealt with kind of the contract negotiation where maybe he wasn't also Verbeek's cup of tea. and they're probably looking at, we got all these other young guys to hand over Brinks trucks to. Because Seneca, Carlson and Gaultier are going to make easily over 10. Like Carlson's going to be looking at Bedard money if he signs.

So, you know, give him new life just like Cairo kind of got by going to Washington. And he gets to get a new environment where I believe Mason McTavish's age is 25. and I look at St. Louis and the age that they're around, and the snuggerroods, the Brobergs, the Holloway, they're all in that. He's 23. He's only 23. 23. He's only 23. 23.

But they have a lot of guys in this like, you know, 22, 23 to 26, 27 range that are all kind of, I guess, a little bit poised to hit their prime. So from a timing perspective, from like, from, you know, what these guys are locked in for and what they're going to have to pay them. And as far as what they have is assets in first round picks to maybe go add and bolster their lineup in real time, I like where the St. Louis Blues are at. Like, do they have any... They don't have a badard, but I like them way more than the Blackhawks in the next five years.

Oh, yeah. 100%. So it's like, and you know what's funny is like, it kind of began a little bit with their offer sheets. And we could see some offer sheets this week. I don't know. And I can't believe I haven't mentioned this yet because this was a bigger, you know, a bigger storyline from the past few days, but is the Dorofiev deal. And I just thought of it because we're talking, you know, I just thought of the offer sheets. Dorof Fiav is traded to the Rangers and signs an $11 million deal for seven, seven seasons. So where I am at on this one, a young player who's probably going to guarantee you 30 goals a year, right? Rangers, I love, I love that for them. They need.

heated goal scoring. Who is getting him the puck, though? That is the other side of the argument, okay? But I think mainly this happened because there was a straight up offer sheet. Like, that's an offer sheet target, Dorothea. First off, you get to try to buckle the Vegas Golden Knights who everyone hates besides their fans and all the players there. And then also, you think this guy's young, he can score and they can't really afford

to pay him what we're going to offer sheet him. So instead he's dealt. I just wonder, like, at his age, and how he scores, yes, great deal, but at the same time, no more Eichel. Do you know what I'm saying? I agree with you. I agree with you.

I think J.T. Miller, like, I would imagine he's going to play with Miller, right? Like, the Zabinajad line was good last year. I would imagine he's going to play with J.T. Miller. And I played with J.T. Milne in the beginning of his career. He was like a past first guy, and I still think he has that in him. I think he's going to be able to find him the puck as good as anyone. Fox on the power play is an unbelievable puck distributor.

I don't think it's one of those things where he's going to come in and his numbers. Like those goal scores, man, they just figure out a fucking way to score. They just know how to do it. Auto 30 to 35 tucks. That is. It's a 30 to 35 tuck range.

And in this league, especially from a free agency standpoint, you have to pay for goals. 100%. I think Dolan said if I get shut out one more fucking time at home next season, I'm going to fucking hang you by the rafters. And he's coming off a win with the next. So he's a you, motherfucker.

Oh, yeah. You better start doing something. But he was going to get Brunson playing both teams. You mentioned earlier, like, for Blackhawks fans, their team got better with Byram. Rangers, like, they got better with them. They got better. 100%. So, like, to bring in a sniper like that, it's just, I'm interested to see.

Yeah, you're right. Who was the last sniper sniper that they had in New York? Gabric. Gabrik, I would say. Maybe Rick Nash. You know what? Crider had 51 year. You're not a sniper.

They're in front of that, but you get 50. You're a sniper in my game. Panarin, Panarin, yeah, I mean, I guess he was considered a sniper. Well, Zabanajad is, he, he's a shooter. He's a shooter. So now, I guess if you have Fox with Dorofi have over to the right and Zabana it over to the left, you'd think the P.P'd be money. Miller in front or down low.

I think their P.P. You have a lot of dry hair on the wings, but, hey, man, if the puck's going on the net, we're all Gucci here. And I believe that Power Play was actually pretty good last year. but yeah I mean anytime you can add a guy like that but that would have been I wonder if somebody would have offer sheeted him from because you said it made total sense of a guy that would be offer sheeted

I wish there would be a couple this year because I love offer sheets but yeah I mean the Rangers get better you get a guy you lock them up too so I think it's a great deal from I think they also need to do a little bit more if they want to you know get back into the playoffs and win some series Yeah, I guess it's just a situation where it's hard, it's hard when you're seeing guys who contribute in so many areas get where that number is. Like they're also penalty killing their power play. They're able to, you know, play well defensively. They're not just like a power play opportunistic goal score that maybe doesn't touch as many areas.

So you're, you're paying the highest premium for a sniper and that's kind of where the Rangers are. And once again, when you got to pay for goals. It's kind of like, it's like Boston. They're desperate. They need goals. Well, that's why they traded for Peturca because you're going to get your 30 goals. Yeah. So this Petirka trade, yeah, it was kind of, I wouldn't say shocking, but I was like, wow,

it's surprised. He was traded for the 23rd overall pick and then the Panthers pick in 2028 that's top 10 protected. So my only question here is like, all right, he's a young player who. can score, no doubt. But he was traded by Buffalo, okay? And then a year later, he's traded again. Like, that kind of gets my spidey senses up a little bit.

And this is coming from somebody who was, I wasn't that young, but I was traded. And then the next year, I was traded again. And it's like, I'll give you a comp. I think, I think it was a Kairu situation where sometimes there was a lot left to be desired. Kairu's going to get you 30 goals. He's going to get points. he's unbelievable. It's kind of about putting it all together.

And I, you know, I think that in some cases, certain players lean and, you know, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, cheating and anticipation. And some guys cheat a little bit for their goals. And if that's how they get them, that's how they get it. That's the anticipation and how it works. I think it's a brutal, brutal look in how Josh Don't paid out that. Yes.

I think that's why they made the trade. is because you see the guy that you traded for you. Like, oh shit, we could have had this guy. He was so good. He played every situation. He was, it also sounds like that Utah was big fish hunting, that they wanted to clear the cap space

so that they could go get someone. Obviously, it hasn't come to fruition yet, but it sounds like the streets are talking, saying that they're going after something big, maybe down the line here. Like a Larkin or... Maybe in Austin Matthews? I don't know.

I'll tell you this. I know that Ryan Smith would legit say, max it out and, front load it like a motherfucker as much as you can to get a guy like that. But it's a lot different than what, you know, Toronto's doing everything they can to build around him to convince him to stay there as well. So there, yeah, there's a lot of people going after AM 34. Gee, I've seen a lot of Bruins fans like discussing like trade Zaka.

Like, why do you want to trade Zaka? I think it's just capitalizing on a higher turn. I'm not in the camp. I don't want to trade Zaka. I don't think he is your what your prototypical 1C but this is a team that needs centers. Like we keep talking about how they need center help, they need center help.

Why are you going to trade your best center right now? I guess the argument is you want Hagen's, you want Mitten to get some time. But I'm keeping Pavel Zaka. No question. I don't get a great year. The one thing this team needs right now, it's just because people are seeing all the returns

that these other guys are getting. But the one thing this Boston Bruins team needs right now is a right-handed defenseman. They need help on the back end. that's where they need to spend their money here at the at when three agency starts but i i like this deal rasmus anderson if they get i'm not a rasmus anderson guy but then the other one what about for six and a half or seven million no chance here like buddy darnel darnel's the other name they're throwing out there so it's like what the fuck here like if if you take elias lindholm off our hands i'll be honest

i'll take darnell with open arms if darnell's on your team without you guys paying the full salary If Darnell's on your team making six, you'd love them. I'm telling you. Yeah, for sure. Oh, no question. But I'll pay Darnell almost a full salary if you take Elias Lindholm at 7-5 off of our hands. That is one of the worst contracts in the league. But Edmonton's not going to make that deal.

No, especially because in the end of his year press conference, he starts complaining about his back. He's like, oh, this back problem, it's really heating up. Who knows where this is going to take it? It's like, oh, God, now you can't get traded. That's never ideal. I would say that the Bruins, there's a lot, like, I don't know, I don't think it's going to be looking good for them moving forward here.

I think they said that last year too. And then they made the playoff. Then they get in and it was like, look at their division, I know. This is a typical Jeremy Jacobs move though at the same time. Like just get into the playoffs, just getting into the playoffs,

get the tickets, get the sales. That's all they need, right? For sure. Utah also did something else. they grabbed a goalie, Sebastian Kosa. Now we'd heard about him and we'd heard about Augustine coming from Detroit like they were coming up. And I guess the wings, you know, look at Augustine as their guy more than Kosa. So they got the 23rd pick for him.

And then the wings used that pick. What did they get? J.P. Hubert. So American kid playing the W.HL. He's going to Michigan. Yeah, he'll be good. So supposed to be very good. I kind of think he was one of those kids who left the NTDP, I believe, as well.

Yeah, that's correct. You know, you've seen Carter Meyer now is in the process of trying to do that. But COSA, I didn't realize until after that trade happened and I was watching the draft and Kevin Weeks was mentioning how much of Amelka plays where now we always talk about the goal he's. 62 games. Yeah, he played a shitload. So you got this, what?

Didn't it, like, with all the talk about how good this COSA is and I, I don't, just would have figured that would have been a trade they would have made to get a good player in to help them right away. I know. Same here. Because it was all you taught is like, why are they holding on to both these goals? You got Augustine and COSA, like, why are they holding onto this? And then to trade to just get a draft pick, I don't know. I thought it would have been one of those ones that you could throw in to get a big name guy in there, especially a goalie, because every team needs goalies. I know. I don't know if he had, let me see here quickly. This year in Grand Rapids, 9-15, save percentage, 233 goals against.

Yeah. The team, he was 26, 8, and 4 this year. Yeah. So, I mean, it is kind of weird. You'd think that they'd get a player there. Right. But it is also interesting to see our Detroit. Like, Augustine's our guy, right?

And, but now Utah has some help for Vemelka. It is crazy to think he played that much. But isn't Augustine, is Augustine going back to school as well? Like, I don't know. Is he, G? No, he signed. He signed at the end of the year. Oh, we did?

Oh, yeah, he's done at Michigan State. Okay, so they got, yeah, they got their goal of the future. COSA moves out. Yeah, I mean. Biz, do you think they should have got more for COSA? Like, with all the talks that we've heard about them? I just think it's one of those things as we're thinking, like, we're talking going into playoffs near the trade deadline.

Like, hey, is this something that they could package to get it? That's what I just said, yeah. Yeah, I just went and took a leak. So sorry if I missed what you said. I just thought that you're like, okay, you draft him in the first round. You spend a few years, helping him. He has success in Grand Rapids. And then it's like, oh, we're trading them for another guy. We got a draft now. And then wait to develop to see the excitement. Well, hey, listen, if Augustine pans out and they made the right decision and all of a sudden he's kicking and he's your next Dominic, or Vernon or whoever you want to mention, I don't think anybody gives a fuck. If they see this guy go over to Utah and all of a sudden he's kicking, he's a six, seven freak octopus and net, just kicking everything out.

I think as a Detroit Red Writz fan You want to like you want to rip your hair out Yeah and then he and then he says it's all because of that pregame speech Bizz gave us for the Edmonton Oil Kings that time That'd be pretty cool And then like yeah Wayne made him come in and all of a sudden That's what it that's what it did for me I did have a little bit of my saliva hit him in the face as I was an

As I was announcing his name So that bad jujoo just yeah he was fucked from that minute forward He was fucked He was fucked. I don't know, obviously, I don't know anything about these goalies, but if the coast is that big, like Augustine 6-1, I don't know, a guy that's played pro, I probably would have moved off of Augustine before. I was impressed with how he moved when we watched him.

I just thought he was very fluid, and it's really a lot about how these goalies move and they're skating. I also think that, you know, you look at a guy like Bobrovsky. I don't think he's the biggest guy in the world. No, what's his name too in Calgary? Wolf, he's not big. He looks great. Yeah, that's a scary one for Wings fans.

He looks unbelievable. The Aves traded Jack Drury to Nashville. He then signed five years times four and a half. That's another kind of sign and trade that happened. Colorado then re-signed Brett Kulak and Brent Burns. Brent Burns is in a good spot. Knock on wood to break the Iron Man streak. He makes $8.50 next year.

He's just like, I just want to keep playing. and Kulak gets four and a half. I just want to pay for my coffee and my backpack supplies. Pretty much break up. The drury. The drury trade surprised me a little bit. Like I thought he was good in playoffs. Like I know,

but he was going to make, he's like they just got rid of Colton because he makes four. And I, and you talk about McCar being up. Maybe this is just like a commitment move to him. And maybe this year moving forward here, this could be maybe a regression year in a sense of, you know,

they got to save a little bit of money in certain areas. Like they're off the chushkin. They're off cold. Like they're shedding a lot. I know. They're shedding a lot. I actually don't mind the moves that Nashville made. I know we joked about the mid-off earlier.

Like I feel like that fits the identity of their team. I think that Stamco's March O'Soe and O'Reilly are great leaders. And you could see how they trended in the right direction towards the end of the season. Well, you got really good foot soldiers ready to compete and provide definitely. to your team now, I, you know, I don't see a reason why they can't sneak in next year. You know, who I hope signs there is Ryan Shea. I think he would be a great ad for Nashville. Wow.

Okay. Boy, Ryan Shea had over 30 points this year. He's going to get $8 million, right? Do you guys think that you could see Roman Yosey move, given the fact that his deal's coming to an end and maybe he wants to go win now towards the end of his career? That's what I wonder is how many. You also know who's his agent? Judd.

I do wonder how many guys have requested trades that aren't public because 100% they're out there. We just don't know. And I'm not saying that that's one that that's happened, but you never, you never know what's going on. He seems like a lifer to me in Nashville. Okay, boys,

I know we're bouncing around quite a bit. I did have a special guest planned for this episode. We have interviewed him before, but I know you have no idea who's coming on. He just released a book. A tell-all book. Tom Green? No. Our fearless boss and leader.

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I mean, it's just a fact that less mascots was the most, whatever it was the most promoted thing that Barstool's ever done. It had no advertising. it got no views. It made no money. It took two years to produce. It took all of our talent. And people promoted it like the company was on the line. And it debuted huge.

It actually had a lot of numbers. It was such an... Thanks to biz. Yeah. And it was so awful. It's very rare you see something go from like a million views to like 140 from like episode one to two. But that's how bad that was.

But everyone put such effort into it. You know, I thought maybe... When the season two start? Yeah, season two ain't coming. Season two, we can't afford. Like, they had so many people working on that thing. So, you know, I thought maybe I could throw me a bone and get a couple, couple books out of it. So we got, you know, everyone, everyone promote.

And I'm sure that some of the people doing it like Nikki Smokes, I'm sure, is moving a lot of books and people like that. But they're hopping to it. They're promoting it. My rebuttal to that is a lot of time and energy spent. I don't think they had a huge budget. And I respect people who take swings. and I thought there were some great moments in it, and I loved the guys who did it,

like the Fidelbergs and that whole out-of-order cruise. But with that hilarious email, it was just terrible. You people listening, it was. You people listening, go watch it, and you can make your own call on that. The numbers don't lie.

I mean, the numbers do not lie. It had a million people debut, and then it fell off to the point. They had, I think they rented out, like the Apollo theater for the opening. I think art is about interpretation, and we're going to let the people who go watch it that are listening to side,

but I thought it was a perfect opportunity to bring you on. I know we've had you on before, but to talk about this book release and why you decided to do it now. Yeah, so the book was pitched to me, and it definitely, different things, I guess, get to me,

my ego or whatever, but the thought of like walking by in an airport and seeing like your book in a window, I thought it's super cool or little bookstores. Yeah, you go to a lot of real airports. I used to. So that, and then I thought Francis was going to write it. So it's like, all right, I don't have to really spend that much time and it'll be cool.

And then Francis wrote the whole book. He wrote a book. And he spent, I don't know, six, eight months writing the book. And then I got it. And I read the first page. I'm like, oh, this isn't going to work at all. And I've said it's awful. I shouldn't say it's awful.

It just wasn't, you know it wasn't me. Like someone read it, be like, that's not Dave. And he was kind of making up stuff as he went. Like, we had lots of interviews, but where he didn't have the exact story or back, he just make it up and ad lib. It's like, I can't do that. People know the whole thing. So I had to write the whole thing.

So it took me another six months. I mean, I was locked in there. I would have never agreed to do. it if I knew how much time and effort. I'm glad it's done. I think it's like a pretty good memoir of Barstool, but I never would have agreed to do it if I knew how much was going into it. And for those of you who are a little naive, he's talking about Francis Ellis, unreal comedian. He just was at the Boston Garden. It was sold out. I believe he opened. And he's a great writer. I mean, I was going to say probably the highest, probably the highest or one of the

highest intellects who works for Barstow went to Harvard. So was that obviously the reason and his humor why you chose him to write at the first place? Yeah. And he asked. He's like, I will write a fucking great book. Like, I've never been more confident that I can write in your voice into a book. And he is a great writer. It's just he's like in the book. It's probably like a good book or a movie. It's just not mine. So it, I couldn't like read it knowing, oh, that's not true. That didn't happen. It was just a lot of, a lot of, like, bullshit.

And he talks in a way. He was still talking in Francis' voice, like kind of the bougie, like, as I'm eating my, like, sushi with, like, caviar on it for lunch at the, at my friends. Like, what are you talking about? It just was way off. So I had to do it over. You ever think, because you're a guy who loves chaos, uh, dropping both the books at the same time and see which one does better?

Wow. I love that. Thank you. me and the Francis. Yeah. Yeah. You mean saying I wrote the Francis? No, no, no.

Like panning it. Choose your own ending. Oh, well, yeah. I mean, he had no chance just because my audience is so much bigger than his. That wouldn't really be a fair fight. Okay, well, so I bought the book. I bought it when you put out the free order.

So it'll be at my house when I get home. Still in for my free copy. Now, yeah, he wants to. We need numbers. I need numbers. If I ever wrote a book, would you buy it? There's no chance you. It's a difference between you and I.

One thing I'm very interested. I would buy that book. Thank you, Dave. R.A. is going to write wits. Yeah. In crayon. But I got to wonder, I can't wait to read, you were under an NDA for so long on how you got the company back. And now you're able to tell it and you tell the story in the book.

So kind of like give the, I guess the cliff notes of that right now. And that's just one reason people should go buy it. And for those of you who have been living under a rock, like can you? maybe even get a little bit more of the back story as to like. So you guys, well, I know what, you know the story, right? Yep. I don't know the story. Well, yeah.

Yeah, I know. And even if it was told to me, I'd probably smoked enough weed to forget the story. So, so, so, all right, the Cliff Notes version of it is we go, uh, Penn as Barstle, Penn owns Barstle, Jay Snowden is the CEO. And I never know how books. You want people to read the book. So, but I guess I tell the story here. there's more in the book.

How does that work? Anybody know about books? Do you give away? No, I think sometimes you go on and tell like one part of the book, but there's a million other parts. Okay. So I'm telling that I'll give the Cliff Notes version. There's more to it.

So I own, I own a barstool is owned by Penn. Jay Snowden and the CEO of Penn. He's like, hey, I'm going to be in New York. Let's grab lunch. We haven't cut up in a while. We walk into a little Italian restaurant. I forget the name of it. in New York and Manhattan.

And I swear a guy walking, I go, this looks like the type of place you get whacked at. Like I literally, it looked like an old godfather. We sit in the corner and he starts telling me, he's like, we made a big move. I'm like, oh, okay.

He's like, we're doing a big deal with ESPN. I'm like, oh, all right, that's crazy. But like, okay, cool. Is McAfee going to promote it? Is Scott Van Pelt going to promote it? He's like, yeah, they're going to promote it on and on. There's one part, there's one part of the deal though uh ESPN and said we will do this deal provide one thing

Dave Portnoy cannot be part of Arsenal sports anymore okay so that's a hell of a stipulation yeah I was he's like we're gonna vest all your stocks so you're gonna be rich and it's like go on and I was just stunt to be totally honest like I took it all in and I was kind of like well walking I'm like what if what if I'm not like totally cool with like getting fired by ESPN for my own company. He's like, well, you get the stock, you get rich. I walked out, uh, called Renee. I was like, hey, I just got fucking like can't from I got whacked. Yeah, I got fucking whack. It was worse than a bullet. Yeah. And then, uh, I called Jay. I talked. So then Jay met with Dan. He met with Erica and told him the same thing. And we kind of grouped up like, do you guys want to go to

ESPN? Like I'd be out. I'd be rich. And it was kind of consensus like, fuck no, we don't want to go to ESPN. So then we negotiated with Penn and it's like they want to do this ESPN deal. We have Barstool who does not want to go to ESPN. ESPN won't work with barstool. So it's like, but the deal's already done. So we negotiated this deal with with Penn. That provides you more leverage because they'd already signed that deal knowing they wanted to do that so bad where you were able to go back to them and like. Yeah. And what was the stock that was vesting? Are you allowed to say like how much it would have been financially. Well, I was getting that no matter what. But yeah, you already had so much. Yeah, it was like tens of millions of dollars. It was a lot. So we all,

Jay and I always had a great relationship. And I get what was going on because we were getting hammered by regulators. Barstle was looked so bad. And he's like, all right, we're losing money on Barstall anyways. We want to do this ESPN deal because they're seeing it as Barstall's not working. So it's like, what can we do to make all sides happy in this? And it's like, let's give Russell back to Dave. I suggesting a buck. And then he takes all the expenses. All, you know, the Nates of the world are all back in my lap because ESPN would have fired 90% of the company.

Like all these losers like Mincey, see, well, he was already gone. But like Nate, see you. Like go down the list, Nikki Smoke, see you. Like everybody, Big T, see you. Like everyone's gone. you guys, they have used for you. So it's like we decide to keep it. And that was basically how the company got back.

So Witt and you were going on ESPN with like doing your hockey bits. And I wasn't people have always been like Dave Hates McAfee. It wasn't McAfee. I'm like, fuck this ESPN. Like they tried to fire me from my own company. And then the chicklets guys are going on playing footsy with ESPN who I knew tried to fire me from my own company. have been fired shortly thereafter. I could promise you guys that. And to go back to the mincees. And by the way, there was a 10 year NDA where it's like if you say any of this deals off. We can come

to you for all the money, everything. The Penn ESPN deal fell apart right as this book was ending. So I'm like, am I allowed now? Because I know ESPN and Penn weren't a good relationship. We were much better. So I'm like, am I allowed to say what happened now? So it kind of was the perfect timing for me to end the book. and be like, here's actually what happened. I think one of the more fascinating parts of this is when they bought, when Penn bought Barstool, at what point to when he finally came and you said, hey, this is basically not going to work with the ESPN situation.

How much of that original buyout had you already collected from them? And what did they buy Barstool for Penn? Yeah, and that's all in the book. So it was like halfway done. Like the Penn deal, and a couple of we have read the book. And I'm like pretty. Frank with the numbers all the way along the route of how much I was making. But I, so the original, the entire penbop arsenal for roughly 650 million total.

So now, uh, turn and owned half the company. So it's not like I made 650. So it was 650 total. I think I had 30% of the company or something at that point. They bought half of it when they started or 30% because they didn't want to own it all right now and have all the regulators scream like what are you doing they wanted to test it out and slowly do it but it was always after a couple years they would acquire the rest of it and had they already acquired the rest of it before he came to you but yes but we always had to earn it was always an earn out like we had

every day that went by more stock would be invested but we couldn't sell it or do anything with it yet so it's like locked up so did you not want to sell it because all these guys that you said would be fired all that stuff you had a soft spot for them and you didn't want to see them get fired? Yeah, that was a huge part of it. And like Dan, Erica, all of it. That was a big part of it. I would have made so much money I could have gone on the sunset.

That was a huge part of it. A second part of it was at first I was so stunned. And then it's like ESPN actually fired. That's really what would have happened. It's like ESPN fired me from my own fucking company after 20 years. Yeah, I still like that. Something that you built too. Yeah.

Yeah. It's still crazy to me. I don't know why that clause was put in there. Like I know I butted heads with them, but it's still barstool. That to me was an insane, because they could have, like it all could have worked together. There was no reason for this to happen except ESPN literally all the way up top being like the one thing is Dave Portner. I can't be part. Is there one name at ESPN? Because Skipper's gone.

That has a champagne bottle. Yeah. But is there, was there one guy or is that like just a? a group, a board decision. I heard it went all the way up through the great fine, like Bob Eiger. Like, it was like all, it, they, whatever reason, they just, I was the deal breaker. Crazy. It's the second time.

And we talk about the second time like ESPN did the biggest favor in the world for us. Like it was first, Barstle Van Talk when they blew that up. Like that's a huge point in Barcelona's history. Because Dan and PFT, like, we were at odds big time. like PMT and me were at odds. And then ESPN kind of united us and became the villain when they canceled that show. And then all these years later, they come back in out of left field and give me back the fucking company. It's crazy.

In sports entertainment as far as like deals like this, is this one of its kind? Yes. Like is there any other thing remotely close? Because I feel like you are so on top of the business side of like everything that's going on and you understand it. What could you compare this to in the past? I mean, I've, I don't have a specific example. I've heard people say founders sometimes get back their company. Again, I just don't know.

Like, I don't know if the ESPN Penn deal would have worked if we were still involved because we would have been rowing together with ESPN. It just was, it was just a, such a slap in the face to me. It'd be like, boy, we want to do this deal. But it can't be with Dave. When you left that lunch, were you like, okay, I'm going to do this? I can't believe you didn't flip. I was stunned.

I was just so caught off guard. And it was really like there was a part of it. Like, we're going to give you all the stock you've been waiting for. You're going to have all this money. And you can just disappear into the sunset. And maybe if it wasn't ESPN, if it wasn't some company, when I'm like, fuck these guys. It's just some third party. Maybe I go into the sunset.

But it sucks that I feel. Because I think about it even now. It's like, how am I going to unwind myself from Barstool? Like, whether that's in three years, five years, 10 years, in the last page of the book, it's crazy. I say, as I'm writing this, I'm about to turn 50. I've been doing this half my life, 25 years. So that's pretty nuts to be doing something literally half your life.

But I don't know what will happen. We just have these morons who work for, like what happens to these people? What if I make all this money retire and then I'm walking? walking out of street and I see like Nate mumbling to himself with a little like can you give me some change like what would I fair Dave that's the that's the oxygen that makes it run and I feel like those characters that you're mentioning like they're so relatable to your your audience and like the vulnerability and the goofiness and like sometimes where would they go biz without bar so no I completely agree it's just one of those things that just it works man it was just like the universe

came together and and and I don't want to say it fell on your lap because this is 25 years of very hard work. And it kind of was going to lead me to my next question about your like obviously entrepreneurial mindset, right? 25 years going at it. And this book probably starts at the beginning. I would assume the, the repurchase of the company is around the climax of the book.

Yeah, it is. Yeah. Like, you're 50. Like, do you see yourself slowing down or are you just one of those guys? I don't know how you're going to. I can't see you not dropping a video on Twitter when something happens.

Yeah. Right. I don't know. It's hard to be in. I mean, I've definitely big time slowed down. Like, I mean, I live in Isle Marada in Nantucket, so I'm not in the office. And I, you guys have probably experienced a degree. The more success we've had, we get bigger opportunities thrown at us that like I never dream of.

So like the being on Big New kickoff, you know, it's a great deal for us. And it's never, if you told me 20 years ago, someone's going to pay you a lot of money to be on like a college football pregame show. I'd be like, sign me up. How do you do it? So we get great deals that keep me involved. and in a lot of our bigger deals, I need to be in it. Like Draft Kings, it's like we're doing a huge deal. It's like, we need Dave, we need Dave.

So that keeps me in. And Dan does a lot of the day-to-day stuff. We have that talk last week. He's like, what's your plan? Because they're looking at office space. And he just wants to kind of make sure I'm there for the business side and like keeping things going. So I don't know. I really don't know.

I have an expensive horse habit. And you laugh, but it's like you need money for it. Oh, yeah. We've seen some of the prices. tags on these grays that you buy. It's crazy. As I start to learn a little bit, a little bit about it.

Yeah. My little pony. Outside your ego, obviously kidding there. What do you hope that people get out of this book? Like, do you hope that it inspires like entrepreneurs of the next generation? Is that what do you?

No. I'm not like, you'll get a flying fuck. No, there's no inspiration here. On the ego thing, I want it to be on like the New York Times bestseller lists or does it like, you know, whether it would, I think Barstle is a great movie. I mean,

the story is insane. Like the whole Barstle story really is a pretty unique like one in a million. It almost seems built for film because of we cover sports, entertainment, women, like all the controversies. But I don't know. Like it was it was pitched to me. I didn't think much about it. And now I am proud of it. And I'm glad I did it. I don't like having to push the fuck out of people to like buy it. But that's what I'm doing. So. But I don't have any grandiose, like, oh, I hope some fucking kid in business school is like, I'm going to do this and this and taking notes. I think if Zuckerberg got a movie, I think you should, you should be on the list.

I'm looking forward to the aspect of the book with Pardon My Take. Because you mentioned, pardon my take is like the engine that's running this all now. Aside from Mincy. Netflix. Yeah, and Mincy. Netflix came in and everyone's like, oh, you guys are on Netflix. It's like, yeah, they wanted Pardon My Take. They got us and Rusillo as well.

But not a lot of people know. and I don't know the backstory of like the true bad blood between you, Dan and PFT for a while. So not to give it away, but that is definitely an aspect of the book. People probably, what do you mean the bad blood? We were, we were at odds. Like right around when they went on ESPN for that short-lived, short-lived, uh, Barcelona one episode, we really like Dan and I were barely talking at PFT when he came over, it didn't like me to begin with.

Like I wasn't a PFT wasn't like we weren't I wasn't his cup of tea. Let's put it that way. He was a Dan guy. And I think he saw like I. So when they when we get attacked or they get attacked or somebody says something mean, during that time especially, they're like turn the other cheek. Just pretend it didn't happen. Like let's not let's not inflame this.

I don't really live by that code. I'm, oh, you attacked us. I'm going to attack you and turn this. into a fucking gutter war. So, but they're trying to grow in the stink of me. I think they perceive it's holding us down. And I kind of look at it's like, you guys won't even have this opportunity to explode in the first place

if I wasn't making all these waves and got us to the point they gave you the platform to explode. So we were really, I think they were looking at ways to get out of Barstool. Like, what is our next step? Dave's made all this money. We're fucking huge. We're like the biggest podcast in the history of podcast. And as long as we're,

attached to Barstool and Dave, we're going to be limited on what we can do. I think that was kind of the push-pull. And ESPN, like, they didn't even want to talk to me when they did that deal with part of my take. Like, if I came in the room, it looked like a skunk walked in. Like, they all are you. Like, what is that kind of thing? What, like, what patched up the relationship, the working relationship?

They fucking canceled the show. Like ESPN, it was on for one episode and they dug up an old quote from Dan and I talking about Sam Ponder. and they canceled the show. So once that got canceled, it reunited us. Dan's like, fuck it. I'm Barstool for life.

And PFT over the years, I think PFT is an interesting chapter with me. And it's like, I said this, I do believe in the book. Like, I honestly think if somebody was talking shit about me and I was nowhere around

and PFT was there, he'd defend me. Like, fuck you, you don't know what you're talking about. That's about as nicest thing you can say about somebody. We don't maybe see the world

exactly the same. But we've become like, I want to say with like BFFs and hanging out, but we both trust each other and very loyal to each other. What is, like, from an energy perspective and a stress level perspective, obviously there were some years there where people were gunning for you, the business insider stuff. Like, like, how do you get to a situation where you're okay going on the offense with that stuff over and over and over where I feel like at least now it's kind of you've kind of came out the other side? what do you think changed that? Was it that business insider situation where that was the peak of it all? Yeah, well, that was certainly the worst.

Like I've never been attacked in a manner like they did really personal and just total bullshit like all lies. That was the worst time I've had in the 20 years of Arsenal. I mean, calling your parent. I have to call my parents be like heads up. There's the headline like an article that's about to drop about me tomorrow. And it's basically saying I'm chasing a girl across the room and she's like screaming, no. It's like totally made up. So, you know, that sucked.

And then I was crazy. After that article came out, it wasn't even going on the offensive. I knew it was bullshit. And I had all the facts. So, all right. It took me 24 hours.

And I laid it all out. And anybody who, who opened mine looked at it's like, oh, this is fucking total bullshit. I remember I talked to Witt during this. You probably don't even remember Witt. I remember talking to you and I've never seen you like that.

I remember after being like, fuck, like just what Biz is saying. And like you were stressing. And I was like, this is horrible because you're showing me all the facts. I'm like, holy fuck. Yeah. And you're like, let me get this straight.

The girl wanted to hook up with you and you're in trouble. I'm like, yeah, that's pretty much how it fucking went. And then after that was over, the New York Times spent a year and a half trying to do the same exact thing to me. So I went through it. And there wasn't a day that went by when some random girl that I either knew or didn't know because they went through. social media would be like, hey, some reporter called and asking really weird questions about you.

And you're just, the business is lies. So it's like, I know I didn't do anything. But that doesn't mean somebody can't just make shit up and they go with it because they already did. So it was a really depressing time for that. And it made me more jaded than I already was, if that's possible. And people, a stoolies hate hearing about it. It's like, yeah, I get fired out. Like, I told a reporter about this.

I'm like my heart's beating fast. because you're asking me about something that makes me so fucking mad and and there's still no one really but it's who it's it's who i am it's like it's not just like you're chirping me for an outfit or a take it's like this is like my my life right yeah that was uh and there's so many facts from that that they just left out it's like sophia franklin from and it's in the book sophia franklin from call her daddy played a intricate role she somehow i don't know how connected the business insider to one of the accusers. Oh, what?

Yes. Oh, wow. The accuser went on a podcast and said it. And it's never been mentioned like that. Seems like it should be an important, like, piece of information. So that's obviously your, you're, your, your gripe right now with, because something, I see the clips pop up and you were kind of going at her because she was doing a tell all book. And then, so you're like, fuck it, I'm going to unload the clip. Sophia Franklin went through a period of time where on her Instagram story, she would just say, do you have any dirt or, or, or, or, or,

shit about Dave Portnoy and then delete it. And she was with like this guy, Milf, we're going too bad. But it was like they hated me so much from Call Her Daddy. And they just made shit up. So brutal. And that's obviously a portion of the book as well. Is there anything like,

like what would you say the most positive part of it is like the most, like outside of getting the company back, maybe like a life experience. I know famous Miss Peaches kind of blew up and that must have been a big. Yeah, she's not so much in it. you know, one of my favorite stories. And again, sometimes Chicklet's fans are like, we hate this fucking guy.

It's like, I don't care. I don't. It's the same as, anybody who can't say this, what you've done is a fascinating story is just out of their minds. They say they hate me. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I've been getting some lately too, so don't worry about it. Yeah. That's why we got you on your shield. Yeah. It is very strange because whenever Barstle has needed something like to break our way. It really has.

So whether it's legalized gambling, whether it's finding in the early days of the newspapers, just, I mean, I don't think you're going to have a story like this. And I've said it throughout. Like anybody who creates a business like this and says it didn't take an incredible amount of luck is full of shit. Like it was the right people, the right time to take advantage. But so many things had to break just perfectly for us to like get bigger, expand everything. So there's not one moment. There's a lot of good moments.

There's a lot of me in it. Like a lot of relationships, not within Barstool. I have pretty much good relationships with everybody for the most part who worked here or whatever. But like the churning group, I think people find interesting. I don't know.

It's a, it, it, yeah, I mean, you talk about luck like the Boston teams. 100%. Like you start this thing and then they win fucking 16 titles.

It's just crazy. We were absolute losers. Like when I. started it like it was 86. That was the last. And then we start the thing and it's victory after victory after victory. Not only that, the internet comes around. So we're like at the forefront of being able to document all this Boston and not by plan, but me and Barstool start becoming the face of the Boston sports fan. And then the Patriots just erupt. And not only do they win all the time. They're in controversy all the time. And it's like everything is just building the city of

Boston. People would leave the city, go somewhere else, tell a buddy. And in Boston's one of those cities that's kind of communal like that. It's like I think I have a line at one point. Like if you pretended you were from Boston, you would say like you, you were Ben Affleck or Matt Damon, but if you're really from Boston, you were reading Barstool. Like we're just everywhere in the city. We just, uh, we just interviewed Patrice Bergeron and we were talking about, you know, them winning in 11 and then Marshaun and Sagan after and you guys were just posting every clip everywhere. And then he said, yeah, actually the GM was like, hey, boys, you guys got to go home.

Yeah. New son of home. We're still got them sent home out of Boston. So just posting all the picks. But we appreciate you. Come on. I know you're on a book tour right now. So maybe shout out where you're going to be at the next couple days.

Is that start tomorrow? So I'm going to the why. Well, no, this is airing. tomorrow. So tomorrow we're in Jersey, uh, Ridgewood at a place called books, book, book, book ends.

I'm hoping Bosco doesn't come tonight. So bad. Would you ever, would you ever come out? So I can hold it over him forever. Would you ever come out with like a bronzer? A what? A bronzer.

Why? Because I'm tan. Yeah. He lives in an almerada in Tuck. I mean, I hope. I'm in a shirt off all that. Yeah.

I rarely. The Wall Street Journal actually, the nicest thing of public. there are like they want the opening sentences of the articles like he's living like a rich guy just walking barefoot and tan it's like yeah with my dog shuffling around my 20 something year

old girlfriend I am living the rich guy life I got I got one last one just with like the whole when the internet started like there was no you know playbook on how to kind of deal with the internet and you guys just pumping shit out like what was kind of your guys is interlog

talking like how are we going to film everything how are we going to do this because nobody else had really done it, right? And social, like social media trends, like jumping. You guys are always ahead of like the TikTok and like algorithm stuff and like posting the YouTube at the same time and like knowing everything. Yeah. So we're kind of like the first or one of the first true digital media companies. Like we're around when it started. And I can't believe I'm going to give like bald Paul a compliment. But jazz has been around just as long as I have doing it. And we really saw how quick and nimble you had to be. So, you know, we were fast on TikTok, fast on an aviary.

blew up. Instagram, we're really good at taking advantage. As far as blogging, we just took our cameras and took pictures of the TV. Like, that's quite literally like what we did. Like Jenny Dell or Heidi Watney on the Red Sox, every game. I'm taking a picture like rating her outfit.

Like just little things. What's his face? Drink water. Like I'm video on him leaving the game at the Red Sox. It's just nowhere else. And we're the one was doing it. It changed so much. Like I could have a fight video or a video that was,

sent to me, don't post it for a month, no one else posts it. I'm the only one who has it. Now, if you don't post something in five seconds, it's already all over the internet. So things have changed totally. But yeah, we were, we were just not on purpose. We were just like one of the first companies around to take advantage of it. And I mean, I didn't even think of it. Some guy built the website. He suggested it and like, all right, yeah, build it and we'll try to use it. Who was that? Was that Paul? No, Ian White. Yep, right? Ian White was a kid I used to hand the newspaper out to. And he loved it.

He's like, I'm moving to New York. And if I build you a website, well, you put the newspaper on, I'm like, sure, if you want to do it for free, he did it. And then I'm like, can I write on this? And he just kind of made little changes that let us work on it. Oh, so you could post your blogs to it and kind of like evolve it in real time. Yeah.

I, uh, you talked about the luck situation outside of the buying it back for a dollar. what was your next favorite deal that you ended up having? Ian White? Yeah, Ian White was a huge deal. I mean, the churning deal was great. Both deals we did were great. There's no way we get to our next steps.

I met more of like a silly one, like a kind of like you said, like sometimes shit falls in your lap. I mean, we haven't done too many outside deals. Like the high noon maybe? Yeah, that that story is in the book. The Pink Whitney, that's an all-timer. Yeah, I mean, it really is. Like that start is a joke.

Yep. Okay. Another small question. If you could pick your like top three people at Barstool that you just like get a kick out of when you see their videos and, you know, who are your three favorites? Like outside of maybe the obvious. Bosco, Bosco, Bosco. He's he's one of the few who can still like truly make me laugh. but it's never, it's never with him. It's like when he's trying to be funny,

he's awful and hideous. But like when he's in terrorist mode and just being Bosco and letting his true psycho out, like the video with me and Witt, the taxes video, they're Photoshopping me in Afghanistan. I, every time that pops up,

I have to watch it 10 times. Like it's... And Witt has his glasses on a fucking mom. Oh, my God. It's unbelievable because he's so serious. Like, he was a demented lunatic. And he's definitely on meds. But when he looted, like, even from surviving bars stool, like the clips,

when he's playing that game, I mean, he's a psychopath. He's a psychopath, psychopath, psychopath. And shout out to your book. And I'm sorry that I promoted Le Mascats. No, I was all for it. I was just very curious that it was so much. I knew I was going to send that tweet, like, three months. months before. I just, it was like, I knew how much people promoted that.

And it's like, I wonder if anyone will like shout out. Now it's, if you go look at the feed, it's, oh, buddy, that email came out and it was bang, bang, bang, R.A had one. I read the one. I was like, oh, fuck. The boss spoke. But, uh, we appreciate it. Our whole group chat was laughing when we shared the email where I'm like, I got to go above and beyond here. He's getting the, we're dropping a tell all podcast here. Yeah. All right, Dave. Um, congrats on the book. We'll talk. See you. All right. Yeah.

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Maybe I read a book someday which won't happen and he ain't buying it. I'll tell you that. So what other teams do we not talk about though if we can run over quickly? And I will say, I know we kind of should on Ottawa for the return on Brady. I do think that they've made a few nice little moves in order to, I think they got Burakoffsky. Yep. And then who they get from San Jose, who's a smaller, skilled forward, Eklund, right? William Eklund.

Yes, yes, and I like Eklund. They're trying. They're trying to retool on the fly, kind of like we saw from Washington after a big loss in Brady. So interested to see what else they can do maybe with some of those. They also signed out Jordan Spence to four-year deal, five million per season. He's pretty good. Came over from L.A. and I like him. So we'll see how that works out, but he looked great in his first year.

L.A. re-signed Brant Clark. L.A. also announced that they won't be resigning Doughty before his final year of his deal. kind of a little bit of a, you know, let's see how this season goes and figure it out then. It is, you know, Doughty's getting older though. I kind of get it. I bet he has a monster year. I could see that and I think Brant Clark, it's his time. Hey, this is kind of your team now on the back end. The 7.4 million for a five-year extension.

Do you think he would be a guy that maybe would get traded at the deadline? Doughty? Yeah. Oh, if they're out of it, a thousand percent. They're morons if they don't retain half. and send them along. And they just brought it and did they not just bring in Ray Whitney too

as an assistant coach? Yes. A wizard. A wizard. A wizard. A wizard. A wizard. What a guy to have in there.

And Lavellet coached him obviously when they won the Stanley Cup with Carolina. So that's pretty cool. But I want to see what Brant Clark does with more minutes and more, you know, options for him. So that that'll be a good one to watch. And then the starts. Who's your other assistant?

They got Ray and then somebody else they announced. I don't know. I can't think of that. I thought it said Ray and someone else. But the sharks who did acquire Kesselring, they signed him three-year deal, 4.5 million. I mean, we still kind of don't know what, yeah, don't know what happened in Buffalo. But when he went over there, it was like, hey, this is a nice piece with Josh Stone.

Like, this guy's a hell of a player. So now he's at San Jose. He played for Ryan Rossovsky at the world when they won it. So we'll see what he does there. Obviously, San Jose needs help on D. For the draft, boys, we got to go into the draft quickly. McKenna, the Beber, the Beaver thing, it's pretty cool, I think. You get Beaver out there.

That was awesome. McKenna, you know, I guess there was rumblings, maybe wouldn't go first overall as the year went along. And it's, it wasn't no-brainer, I think, right? When you look at it now and the Leafs getting the first overall pick. But I do think with Verhof dropping and San Jose's draft is out of control, like their prospects, but Verhoff dropped, there was rumors of McKenna maybe not going. number one overall, that Tyne and Lawrence kid, he had dropped from way, you know, they were,

they were mentioning him as a top five pick. The guys who go to college are going to get hurt in the draft. That, uh, because of the numbers. Yeah. And, and it's, and it's so much harder than major junior. That's just what's going to happen. But I swear to God, it's a good thing. Verhoff's now going to San Jose, okay? Like, they're going to be a better team quicker than some of those other teams will be. And just by playing college, I think it hurt him. And same with Tyne and Lawrence, who left the USHL, went to BU halfway through the year. He dropped because he didn't do much in college. It's that much harder for a game, especially up from the USHL.

So I just think that that's something to keep an eye out for. And in the end, it's not a bad thing because you're going to a better team, if that makes any sense. But I was, I was very surprised Vancouver took Caleb Mulholtra, right, with his dad as the coach. That's just kind of like, oh, I don't even know if Manning would have wanted that, but they love his game. And they're like, no, we're taking them. We don't, we don't care. I don't know if that surprised either one of you guys at all. I just don't, I think it's just like, when you think of the concept of it, you think of minor hockey.

The good news is, is, man, he played a long time. And I know he's been, he's been coaching now for a few years. And he's gotten that experience to where, like, I think he's self-aware enough to where this kid's just, like, not going to get automatic power play time or playing time or even make the team just because his dad's the coach. Maybe from an organizational standpoint, they're going to want to run. this along just because they need something in order to like hype up the fans and get them excited for because who knows how they're going to be this year. But then on the flip side, I get people who would have been like, eh, I mean, Phoenix drafted Josh Doe in the second round. People, people claim nepotism on that. And fuck it, we're spewing nonsense online. And look at how that's

panned out. Fuck, he should have been a first, first rounder. Right? It's just, yeah. Do you think fans in Vancouver are now like, oh, Jesus, why do we take this guy who's dad's going to be the coach or you think it adds to the like the like the noise of how much they fucking talk online and the drama in which is like their social and that's i think they're one i think if you did a poll they'd probably rank it as one of the five most toxic i mean you saw what happened through the peterson j t situation and hey man it's it's kind of a miserable place in the in the winter when it's raining and dark all the time and maybe that's just the most like the most vocal minority part of their fan base that are on their talking but i hope people have

cooler minds and heads about it. Going back to San Jose, that is like, like, you know, when you say, like, they're looking like a snack.

Yeah. Then they got the Ryan Lynn kid later, too. Ryan Lynn is apparently a great late first round pick who they stole. And he's a team. They have, they have Celebrini.

They got Will Smith. They got Misa. They have now they have Verhof. They have Stenberg. They have Ryan Lynn. It's like Colin Graf's young. It's fucking crazy. Like,

we're not talking two or three guys. like six to eight people that are big time prospects. One is already an MVP type player. Yeah, I can't see it not being like just a complete like rise to the top of the league at one point. Yeah, I'd say three years. And from where they were to like remember how hard it was obviously playing in that building like always packed. They've had their dark days the last few years. But man, you look at this roster, their pipeline of kids coming up.

you got a stud Celebrini who's going to be the face of the league when Sid retires McDavid's on his you know back nine I guess coming soon so I think Celebrine is going to be the face of the league and if you can have him there staying in California in San Jose it's huge because when that seems good man like it's such a fun building to play in to watch a game like that's huge and that's a place that if they're bad nobody's going to want to go that yes you have to build through the draft which they would love to go. And they have Dickinson. I didn't mention him. And we're going to try to get Mike Greer on this summer because Keith and I, I mean, I grew up watching him when he was at BU and then became good friends with him and we were all working out together. He's one of the best people in the game. He's an unreal person. I'm very happy for how that organization looks with him at the helm right now. The other thing about the draft that cracked me up. I was just going to touch quickly on Gavin McKenna, the Leafs. Like, if you like pretty cool story, kid from the Yukon, like just the background. And when you talk about,

about personalities and like stories of guys who are coming in. This is probably at the top of the list. And then all of a sudden like the hype around him in junior setting all the records he did in medicine hat, him making that transition. All of a sudden the the the the allure of oh my god, this guy goes out and knocks a guy out who fucking was chirping at his mom. So even more media attention around him. And then the fucking leaves somehow get that number 12 lottery ball. So going from the from the, from the, the disappointing. season of not making playoffs, them thinking, oh my God, we're going to be so shit. Matthews is going to ask to leave to them getting that first overall pick, him walking up

there with Justin Bieber. Vibes could not be more high in Toronto in one of the mecas of our sport compared to whatever it was three months ago or four months ago when they knew they were going to not make playoffs and potentially be giving their first pick over to the Boston Bruins for Brandon Carlo trade. So this has just been a complete world win Then all of a sudden you have the biggest pop star on the planet announcing the pick

So cool for him and his family to get to experience that He goes flies over to Toronto He's thrown out the first pitch like It's just a world win experience for this kid In that organization and listen as much as Hey I hopped off him I'm obviously going to still talk about what they've been able to do And from that change and getting him

And probably convincing Matthews to stay And now Neelander's obviously going to stay You get one of the biggest free agent defensemen who are going to hit the market. And now all of a sudden you're hearing rumors of Bobrovsky and Worensky. Even the fact that we're talking about that like this right now compared to three months ago, it's only good for our game, boys. Like as much as I'm off the fucking wagon, it's good for hockey. Also, so I reached out.

Well, first I want to say one thing. The draft and the lead up to the draft is crazy. all these scouts, they worked their ass off, but not one time did I see Daxon Rudolph as the first defense been taken. And so it just shows that like, you hear all this stuff before.

And first it was Verhoff and then Chase Reed was the guy coming, that he could go second overall. All of a sudden, the first defense was taken is Daxon Rudolph, who I had never seen one thing saying he would be the first defense been taken. Which is crazy because he scored 28 goals as a D-Man in the Western League. And then it's a lot of goals. So then the Rangers have the, five pick. All right, yeah, Chase Reed now. No, they go to the Lott ving kid, Albert Smith,

who apparently is like one of the most ready guys to play in the NHL next year. So Rangers fans, like, oh, we could have had Chase Reed. It's like, none of you guys have seen any of these people play. Like, how are you rattled right now? Like, at least let it play out a little bit and then complain. And then, all right, all of a sudden, Calgary's up, Chase Reed time. No. Calgary took a kid who has never before in the history of a draft fit in more well with the in this carc and carolus. The kid stays on his farm for his draft party. He doesn't go.

He's got a... He was listening on the radio. His family gave him a belt buckle. One of those like, you know, farmer belt buckle things that said the draft on it. He's a complete stallion. I'm like, holy boy, this guy's a stud and he's going to Calgary. It's just like that worked out perfect. And then all of a sudden Seattle's laughing.

They get this Chase Reed kid who was talked about as the number one defense. for the few months leading up to the draft. So all the noise for, I guess, young kids who were going to be trapped. was walking around like the grandpa on road trip with the fucking boner when he, when he saw that pick. You all want to come back and go work. Coming back. Work.

Work. Work. But what a farm boy stallion that's going to Calgary. That was awesome. But my final thing is that I texted because you saw the decentralized draft. They're all in their home cities. You know, they get the kids now. It did look pretty good with all the couch set up on the floor where the teams usually are.

So I texted nine people I know that work within teams of the NHL. Eight of them said, and I asked, what would you rather? Eight of them said go back to where everyone's there. Really? One guy's like, no, I think this is better. But eight of them were like, no, it's just a scene in that city for a weekend. And then all the teams are there and all the, you see one GM go up to another GM. and I just, I think it's way better the old way.

And I think a lot of people within the league do too. So I would rather it go back to just everyone's there. And then that weekend, it's the center of the hockey universe. And I don't know. I know the league's doing well. And the money conversation probably shouldn't be one. But you're, you're just burning a lot of resources and for flying everybody out for what you just talk about.

I think that they hit a sweet spot and compared to last year with all the, the audio issues and how they're trying to interview each. guy over the air. It was just like awkward interaction. So they've, they improved it. I, I, I, I, I, I, didn't mind this way. The only thing that is crazy is they started it at

seven o'clock and ended at midnight, right? That's five hours. It's a long time. A long time. I think they got to speed up the shot clocks like the MLB. Yeah. Maybe give them like 40 seconds. Just, just get a goal. Like a fantasy football draft. Yeah, just

let's go here, boys. Next pick. Auto. Another cool thing at the draft too is how they announced Billy G as a GM of the year. So shout out to Billy G on that. That was cool. I was wife surprised them. That was a cool. I don't know.

Like, I think those guys. They want to go like rip it up. They want to go party and hang out. Like, just go to your city and make the draft picks, please. Like,

I mean, it's not bothering us either way, but I don't know. I guess if they like it, go back. So I'm assuming the probably other biggest story is these twins that were picked up by the Pittsburgh Penguins. Yeah.

First and second round. Now, they said they wanted to play together. they've only been apart four days in their life. How crazy is that? What? They've only been apart from each other. That was in the interview after with the family.

They are very sedene-like in the sense of looks. Like, I would not be able to tell one of them. Not that I know their names to begin with, but like if I did know their names, I would still fuck them up if like looking at one of the other. No, even when they were just like sitting there, they had the same look on their face. Like everything was the exact same.

It's wild. One of them's supposed to be like a passer. One of them supposed to be a shooter too, right? G so yeah, if you're the penguins, that's a home run getting those two guys. I wonder if teams were like, hey, listen, Pittsburgh took the first guy, let's not even mess with it. I know.

100%. One last note I wanted to make a 2027 consensus first overall pick, likely, is Landon DuPont and he committed this past week. He committed to the University of Michigan. That's a huge commitment for Michigan. So heading to next season,

I mean, they got Michael Hayes. I don't want to fucking hear about this Michigan team that number wins it. But here's the thing. No, he's hearing about him is fucking how sick they are and they never do shit.

So every year in college hockey, there's a team that's fucking nasty. They have all these young guys, these freshmen. And that's been Michigan for years and years. And then Denver wins. And then Denver wins. But if you look at this roster,

Michael Hayes Jr., Will Horcough, Jr., like they're bringing back these guys that usually leave. Usually they leave after their freshman year. For once, Michigan is the team with the older guys.

So I think actually- Those guys are still young. Like some of those guys at like Mancato State are like 25 years. I want punishment. I want punishment if this team doesn't get to like at least the Frozen 4. We have to have something on the line here because all we get is the glazing of the University of Michigan. You must be getting NIL money because it's all you talk about is the Michigan Wolverine hockey team. If Michigan doesn't make the Frozen 4 this year, I will go to a Michigan State football game or hockey.

game in full Michigan gear. Oh, what a tough weekend. No, no. I'm going to go ripping up at the Michigan State. You have to go full Ohio State. I'll go to Ohio State in full Michigan gear if you guys. How about we, that's the one for now, but if we think

of something better, then then we can kind of lay it out on the line. Maybe we'll go to a game. Yeah, you have to go get another chicklets. You and I get another Louis Vuitton duffel bag full of money. But is there anything else that we miss?

from the draft like a store oh I just the one oh the kid from the Cayman Island Cayman Islands he started playing roller hockey and then finally skate till he was 13 yeah what a story so like everyone out there the next can't miss superstar 12 year old it's like

this kid just went in the first round he never even skated and he's from the Cayman Islands that was that was awesome I had never heard that story about him or I hadn't heard of him and that's like holy shit And then I actually saw a clip on Twitter of him playing roller hockey. It was, it was the goal he scored.

It was completely outrageous. I think he still plays. But the Sends got him, the Sends got him with their pick that they lost in that punishment by the NHL that the NHL gave back to them, you know, but it had to remain the last pick in the first round. So that was pretty cool. Say, what's his name again? Jackson Colver.

Yeah, that was awesome. So that's a pretty cool thing. How about the draft? How about the NBA draft being on a. Tuesday or whatever, and then the NHL draft, you know, on a Friday. That's how, you know, the boys are taking over. Yep, we were buzzing. The league's buzzing.

All right, bring in R.A. We're going to talk to R.A. Hello, everybody. Welcome to R.R.A.'s world here on the spitting chicklets podcast. What's up, gang? Hope you're enjoying the summer thus far. Witt, I agree. The draft, a little underwhelming.

I wasn't crazy about this format. I'd like to Gavin McKenna stuff. The acknowledgement of his indigenous history, his grandfather, being in one of those residential schools. If you're not familiar with that ugly history that's come to light in the last like 10, 15 years, study up on it. It's insane what went on in Canada,

so it's pretty nice to see him. I acknowledge his history like that. The Bruins, I'm not going to complain about the Bruins until I need to. It's not even July 1st. Every trade that gets made, no disrespect. Every Bruins fan thinks they should have made that trade or should have been in on it.

So I'm going to wait until I get pissed off about the Bruins. And I don't know, people ask about the captain when they see me. It's like, who gives the shit? It's July. Players in the room don't. really give a shit. I don't think especially right now. So I don't know. I won't get mad until I absolutely need to. You guys are talking about bad clerk. I texted this to G. I actually shook his hand after game six when I snuck into the Red Wings thing. And I had already been

thrown out of the locker room. So I don't know how he didn't recognize me when he came in the room. But I said that the G he said mentioned it here. But either way, we'll see what happens with that. Wait, what do you mean he didn't recognize? No, he like he, I shouldn't have been in the room. So what he walked in. There was like 40 people in there. I was like, I stuck my hand out. Like congratulations coach. He's like, oh, thank you. Like, not like who's this idiot who has a broans hat on an Indianatuck t-shirt. So like, it's just kind of weird with the whole history of Babcock in the show that there's, you know, DNA going way back to the night being where down the hallway from each other. So, and you guys are talking about, um, captains being

stripped of the sea, uh, if they requested a trade. So here's one for you. Back before the 95, 96 season, and Big Walt had the sea stripped from his Winnipeg Jets uniform. He signed. the offer sheet with the Blackhawks. Five years, $17.2 million offer sheet, 3.4-4-year, which is big money at the time. He was a 23-year-old RFA. You know, in Winnipeg, they were broke. They knew they were going to be moving.

It was a spot move. Jets didn't like it, though. They matched it. They could have got five first-round draft picks if they opted not to match it. He did get the C back, but I thought that was... I never knew that he signed an offer sheet and it was matched. Yeah. I didn't know that.

There was the last season they were going to be in Winnipeg. And I mentioned this before. I actually was... I don't think... signing an offer sheet deserves to get the C-stripped either. No. That's like, like that was,

the loyalty aspect in the pressure on players has changed drastically. They were rattled at the Fedorov for the same thing in Detroit. That's like, because like there's a big difference between, hey, I just got offered this huge deal. You're not going to pay me. And,

hey, I don't want to be on this team anymore and getting a C-strip. You know what I mean? Somebody mentioned it about a team doing it for like a naughty, crazy amount to Maverick Bork just because of how desperate and how jammed up the Dallas is with the cap. But at that time, how much was it per year already? And like where would that have been like in relation to the higher play players?

3.4 million a year. I'm not exactly sure. I would have been, you know, pretty nice paycheck back. I don't know who was highest paid at the time. And that was the last year they were in Winnipeg. I mentioned this before. I went to the Coyote's very first game, which was actually in Hartford, which coincidentally was the Whalers final season in Hartford.

Okay. Yeah. Like a little way. A's world. Yeah. A little R-A tree going here. All over the place. World Cup,

just quick checking there. Last few games have been awesome. The Canada game business, I'm sure you watched it. No, I didn't see it. Oh, he doesn't allow himself to watch.

He knows they'll lose if he watched. They beat Qatar. I didn't watch. I watched the Swiss game so they could lock that up so they'd host a round of 32 and then off. So I said, oh, fuck, I'm a mush just like everything.

else. I did not watch the round of 32 game against South Africa. I won a nice long hike. I was checking my phone. And when I got service baby, bingo bango, we won. So I will not be watching any games moving forward. And Brazil, Japan. And you guys see that today. That was an outstanding game. Japan. I was one. Brazil was down one nothing, tied it up early second half and then scored in like stoppage time like 90 second minute to win. That guy, we almost saw the goal of the tournament that Vinnie Jr. walked like three people on Japan and goalie made it ridiculous. They didn't hit the post. But I turned it on and Japan was up. I was like, holy shit. It said that Brazil's reached the quarterfinals in eight straight World Cups.

Wow. And they almost lost that game. Did you see the goal by the American guy who kicked it like on the side of his foot? Like the way that he kicked, it was insane. Okay. So that I, that's what this Vinny Jr. did. When they're running full tilt, dude, and they kick it with this outside of their foot and it's hard and heavy. Like that is insane. That's insane. That's insane to be able to get that much on it with like the outside of your foot. And getting it getting it around the defender like bend it. It's crazy to me. The shit that they can do handling a ball like we played sport that you handle with your stick. The shit that they do with their feet is brewing.

Cool speed. Yeah. Yeah. Germany Paraguay tied at one right now at 82 minutes and this has been a good game as well. Oh, you guys are just talking about it. If you're looking to get down a YouTube rabbit hole, go watch Maradonna. Or is it Maradonna's clips? Amazing. Is it AI or is it a real clip where it looks like somebody gives him a line of blow in the huddle on the field?

I think he had a celebratory snapper there. I've seen that clip he has a go. You see that? And then there's one where life is life is playing. Oh, that is the best. That might be the most aura I've ever seen it out of the past. Shoes untied. He's just like, shaking him.

But then I saw, he looks like he's five foot three. I saw a picture of, um, it was him and Messi side by side. You know, the two number tens, Argentine legends. And it's like Maradonna's 38 in this picture. Messy's 38 right now. I mean, Maradonna 38. He was, he burnt it from both ends. Cool.

Burned in the candle. I think it's so impressive how he was able to do what he was doing while he was like basically on the wolf 24-7. I mean, doing whatever. Like that is. There's a great, I've seen the documentary about him because he played in like Napoli, Italy. It's awesome.

I don't know. I don't know what it was on, but it's a great movie. There's a, if you watch Caddyshack, you can see a gag of getting done when they're at that fancy dinner party. The writer, Doug Kenny, he's sitting at a table. And you can see a girl lean over and do a little thing right off the plate. They never edited out. You can see it if you slow it down a little bit.

How do you know it's not like part of the movie? I who know Well that said I talked about the book I read Who I could have been They could have just been letting it fly Or it could have been a joke

To see if it made the movie I would if I was betting A bet man I would say it was probably like You know Real Colombian It was like Okay Okay

Yeah Because they were tearing up down there Life Life is alive Nah Nah nah Nah La

Life is life You guys just mentioned The kid from the Kaman Islands They got drafted Did the stats Skating Or playing role hockey

He was 13 It reminds me of Doug Smith the local guy who was the inspiration for Goon. I don't believe he started playing ice hockey until high school, and he got all the way to the HL, obviously based on his pugilism skills. But it reminded me of Doug Smith. Keith, you know him?

He's a South Shore guy. I don't know him, no. Yeah. I think I maybe met him once or twice, but I don't know him. He just nails that guy, huh? Yeah, yeah. I forget he's a clock down the South Shore somewhere. He refpped a couple of the Shoresy games and we did the charity ones.

He's a great guy, so just want to give him a shout out there. A pretty cool story, like I said, high school, stop playing hockey and get as far as the AHL. I told you guys that was going to that Strokes concert at TD Garden last week. Guys, 90% of the shows I've been to rock and roll shows. They're usually like, you know, sausage fest, 75% dudes. I swear to God, I never saw this many women at a rock concert. And it's not like yacht rock.

It's like, you know, in your face rock and roll. Not only that smokes. Like, it was like, like a hot white chick saving rock and roll. I couldn't believe it. They were like head bang and thrashed out. It was like good to see. Like, you know, you always hear rock is dead. Rock is dying.

There's a bit of a bad boy, right? Type of guy to like sometimes he would just like not show up for shows or he would show up very late for shows. Like true rock star type of guy. Right? I honestly, dude, I hadn't seen him in 20 years. So I can't attest that. I wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, rock star div would be dead.

Maybe I'm off base here, but I'm pretty sure the strokes. They're a British man, right? No, New York City. They're New York City based. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

They played just sort of like a classic sound. But yeah, it was, it was an awesome show. And again, like, I'd never seen that many Lonely women, but smoke a hot woman taken in the show. Maybe I'm thinking of a different band here, all right? Yeah. What are we going to say, Keith? Do you chat any of them up, all right?

You let him rub the skullet? All right, great. I'm glad you said it. So you posted the picture of the skull, and it looks phenomenal out of the hat. Were you in the hospital? Oh, I was at the clinic when I took, when I took that.

Just a checkup. I had gotten an endoscopy. Okay. The other day, just routine stuff. Nothing. It was very funny because I think a couple of comments were like, R.A, are you in like a doctor's office? Yeah, a hospital taking that stuff?

A lot of people send selfies from the hospital. So, I was, yeah, I was waiting for the doctor. Some people thought I was on the shitter. I was like, yeah, I mean, I'm a little weird, but I don't take selfies from the shitter. So, yeah, it was from the doctor's office. You guys see that clip?

I reposted the Tom Cruise. It's like a clip reel of his career, but it's also a trailer for that movie. A digger that's coming out later this year. No. Check my feet. It's a, it's a, free minute clip and like whether you know if you're a huge Tom Cruise fan or not it's it's

dynamite and like I said it leads into the trailer for this this movie digger that's supposed to be a big one coming in the fall let's see classic recommendation for the week 1979 quintessential 1970s grimy New York City classic the Warriors directed by the great walter hill I'm assuming you must have seen that yeah just a classic like I said New York back then you could like basically film guerrilla style all the subway shots basically all over New York City. Classic flick. They used to be like gang violence waiting in line for it and stuff.

But if you've never seen it, man, it's the grimyest, like I said, most quintessential NYC flick from back on the day. What else we got here? Oh, I want to see Jaws this weekend, July 4th. It's coming back to the theater. So a little July 4th celebration. Go check that out in the theater. Is it like IMAX?

No, it's at the Brattle Theater in Calvin Square. I'm going to go check it out. I mean, I've seen it, you know, 50 times or whatever. But it's always better in the theater. Plus, you know, July 4th action. So give that a whirl. And any movie heads in the Boston area, there's a free screening today, Tuesday,

at the Brattle Theater and Harvard Square at 6 o'clock. Classic I mentioned years ago, a few episodes back to Friends of Eddie Coyle. It's a free show. And at 6 o'clock tonight, doors open at 5. And they're having like a discussion with a local professor from Emerson College. It's like the quintessential.

I keep using that word, Boston Gangsta movie. So you're looking for something to do. Want to get a free awesome flick. Friends of Eddie Coyle, Brattle Theater, 6 o'clock, Harvard Square. Thank you very much to Dave And we will be back to you next week And a friendly, a friendly friendly reminder

to everybody listening The reason that we're able to do this Is because of Dave Portnoy And the company that he started That's how this all began Hired R.A. He was blogging for them He reached out to Witt when he saw his tweet And

The same way we wouldn't be here If R.A. never shot the tweet out And said, hey, Pinky's up to all of us. Wild stuff. I got actually one more. Congrats to my little cousin. Kate Foley graduated high school last week and going a sacred hot in the fall.

So I didn't mean to cut your pinky off. Hey, Kate. And I ran into Drew O'Connor, Vancouver, Connected Ford the other night at the tab. But he got engaged him and his fiance. I know what them. Pinky's up to Drew and his fiance. Great guy, dude. Let's go.

Picky's up. Me and Witt ran into Brock Weber. Yeah, Faber was getting off the ferry leaving Nantucket. He's a unit of a human. You don't want to go to a corner. with him. Jacked or just thick? He's like that Ray Borkville.

Yeah, he's just fucking a cigarette machine, dude. He's just a house. I was like, holy shit. Was he wearing his glasses? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, he was wearing the glasses. He's kind of a silly guy, eh?

Yeah, well, we were just, we talked for three minutes, but he, uh, did his personality come out that you hear about when they were celebrating the gold metal? Oh, my kids, I was like, right, this is Brock Favre. He's like, what? And after he said, I just, Matt Brock Faber?

I'm like, oh yeah, but I'm number seven too. Hey, you want to tell the ferry story? The ferry, oh my God. Oh, yeah, what happened with Bree? We're all excited. So I'm driving down the car that's packed that's going on the car ferry, and I'm driving Keith and Cal. Cal didn't stop talking the whole time.

It was great. And then we had to pull over. He's yelling poop, poop, and I got to rush him into a store. And it was madness. And then Bree's leaving with Ryder and Wyatt and Yoshi. and then she's got the luggage that's just going on the ferry and then I'm dropping the cough, I'm meeting them at the other ferry,

kind of madness, you know, figuring out, get away. And Breep pulls up because we got down early and I was like, hey, what's up? She's like, I forgot Yosh. I said, what? You like, yes. She said, I forgot our dog. I immediately was like, if I did this, like,

how much I told me you have done this. They say not to keep score. No, no, no, no. No, no. Don't keep score. I did it not to this extent, but like Yoshi and Bree. I know. That's what I was going to say.

You were probably like, I don't even give a shit. We'll pick him on next time. We're back. Thank God she doesn't listen because if she knew this was on there, I'm a dead man. But so to then we, she called and got somebody to drive him down. And I took care of that girl. Very nice. Thank you, Neve.

Thank you so much. But I then had to wait around with Yoshi. I waited around with Yoshi. And then Keith were on the ferry. taking care of my kids and and helping Bree get all the fact that she forgot the dog and poor you want a boy Keith takes a village uh no no no I mean I do I would love to have one of those little guys but um no I couldn't go back to doing okay and stayed and all that so I got to ask you how long as a husband to your wife do you drop the do you realize if I did this it would be it would be never

no no no don't keep score biz you just said it no no no I I know, but I, that's why I'm not married because I were the first thing out of my mouth. You know, you were a scorekeeper? I know something funny? So then I waited, right? I had to wait for a ferry. I'm just sitting there with Yoshi. I'm waiting.

I'm waiting. And I know that our bags are with her. And I said to myself, I said, there's no way in hell. She hasn't unpacked my bag and everything's hung up. And my bag is completely unpacked when I get home because I had to wait around. and it was. I knew it. Wow.

With three kids? I knew she hadn't unpacked anything but my bag. That was her. And there was no apology or anything. That was the apology. And that's the yin and yang. And that's knowing that while I see back. Because you forgot, Yoshi, you're going to unpack my entire bag.

Thank you very much. And we don't keep scorbus. And a reason why I'm not married is because if that situation would have happened to me and my wife you ever seen the movie half baked scarface? She would have just taken your dog not just left it. Exactly. Well that's one. That's one. I would have been Scarface at the at the

burger joint. You're jumping on the mic of the fairy being like, yo, yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo, check out what this bitch just did. This lady forgot her dog, motherfucker. Oh, shit. I signed up. I got to, I got to say that a week, two weeks from today, Keith and I are on a bird over to London.

I'm Horcoff, Cleary, Teddy Purcell, Commodore, Ray Whitney, just a great crew of guys, Zetaberg. And that coming up has me just like, I, you know, I'm super dead, super husband, you know what I mean? I'm not going to chirp you for forgetting Yosu and I'm going to London for six days. Like she could burn the lasagna and you're not saying shit. You unpacked her back.

I'm literally not saying a word about anything, about anything. No. Another note here, guys, Staley Cup final vlog with my tour of Boston and Merle's just dropped a little while ago. Wow. The highlight of the vlog, you get to watch what R.A. is like behind the wheel of a car.

He got his basketball skills or something. That should be G's punishment. He has to drive with R.A. from Boston to Michigan for a game. I love that. Not bad. I love that. Bravo.

See you all. Everyone. We love you all. He said he's in. Love you, boys. He's in. Love you guys. Bye. See you, boys.