Spittin Chiclets - Spittin' Chiclets Episode 98: Featuring Jason LaBarbera

Episode Date: July 13, 2018

On this week's episode, the guys are without Whitney, who is on Karlsson watch over in Europe. Meanwhile, the boys were joined by former NHL tendy Jason LaBarbera. The guys talked about some of the crazy rosters Jason has been apart of as well as some crazy stories from those teams. With it being the summer, the guys dropped the hockey talk for a little and were joined by Paul's friend “Arch Bishop” who gets paid by people with foot fetishes. Some crazy stories and we learn how people are actually making money off this.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/schiclets

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Only three, I think, in NHL history. Say hello to the boys, producer Mikey Grinelli. Hello, gentlemen. Boy, Paul Bissonnette. Hello. And our other boy, Raya Whitney. He's on Carlson Watch. He's stalking Eric Carlson in Europe. So when the news breaks, we're going to have boots on the ground right away to get his immediate reaction slash golfing trip.

So, Biz, man, you've had a busy time the last couple of weeks. We had the Fourth of July in America last week. Calgary Stampede was going on. I understand you stopped by. Oh, yeah, that Stampede was going on. I understand you stopped by. Oh, yeah. That was the time. But before we get there, you said that only three players in NHL history have wore that number? I believe.

According to a hockey reference, yeah. I'm going to double-check while you're talking, but I think so, yeah. I'm going to double-check right now. A little fun fact from R.A. And, boys, I haven't had a chance to talk to Whit much before he went on his trip. Now, if something does happen with Carlson while he's there, do we have exclusivity as far

as getting the first interview with Carlson? I mean, I hope so. We'll see. We'll see. We're going to really, we're going to really put the test. Have you heard confirmation of that? Yes. Grinnelli, have you heard confirmation of that? I tried to send Whitney with his microphone just in case this did go down. I got no response, but that goes unnoticed. But hopefully Whitney can do something with his phone. Well, we know how those golf tournaments go. Yeah, you know how those go.

Hopefully he can do something with his phone. Well, R.A., you touched on it. I actually went to Calgary. The main reason was for for charity golf tournament. Jason LaBarbera's wife, who we have on the show coming up later, his wife, Codette, she I think she was on Hockey Wives as well. She she helps with the charity. It's called Breakfast Club. Great cause. They feed a bunch of Canadian kids who go to school. I wouldn't say hungry. Just maybe parents don't have enough to feed them in the morning or for whatever reason. But nonetheless, a good cause. I think the tournament raised $100,000. And then it just so happens it fell on the Thursday, which is the night they kick off Stampede. And that was a fucking time.

That was a fucking time. And boys, let me tell you, I would say 400 people in the span of three days yelled or came up and mentioned spit and chiclets. We have a shit ton of fans out in Western Canada. It was overwhelming. So all of you listening, thank you for coming up and saying hi. I was a little inebriated at some point so i probably don't remember half the times but uh friday i met up with some old teammates uh kirk gogol and kevin rain had had a good fun time with some some also vancouver friends uh and then saturday was special i got to uh i got the bumble notches no no i i actually got a better match it It was a Johnny Goudreau DM slide.

He slid into my DMs. Humble brag. Johnny Hale cheese. And he's like, Biz, what are you up to? And I said, man, just at Stampede having a good time. I went and met him and a bunch of his buddies were in from New Jersey or Philly or wherever his boys are from. And we tied one on at a mexican restaurant and uh actually sam bennett and mark john uh jan kowski was there two great guys uh dutro was behaving himself he had some

responsibilities i think he's looking for a big season actually the boys were chuckling he had to ride a horse in the parade the stampede parade and this fucking guy was wearing gucci boots on the horse so the boys were giving it to him a bit about that but so so towards the end of the meal i just was kind of figuring we were going to be leaving soon so i i went and took a piss quick and i got back and the first words in my mouth hey boys do you want to square up the bill and they all just burst out laughing because they're like they're like fuck you biz we listen to the podcast we know your washroom trick when the bill comes and the full bill was sitting right in my spot when i got back so we all had a good howl about

that and uh and i was like no i was like i didn't i didn't go to the bathroom for that i did not know the bill was coming so we end up playing the credit card game and uh the rich do not get richer uh johnny ham and cheese lost that one took care of the boys and uh once again thank you to him and all of his crew for taking care of me and what a blast we had and and uh all right you need to get out to stampede grinnell you too man yeah i've heard i've heard about now explain to our american audience who may not be familiar with it, what does it entail? Is it like a lot of like roping calves, like riding bulls? Like what exactly takes part in the Stampede?

Well, this is my second three-day bender at the Stampede. So you don't remember. So I've actually never seen a horse. I just go to the Cowboys tent. You just piss like one all weekend. I just – you know what it is? It's like Vegas kind of on steroids where everyone's a lot friendlier. Everyone's a lot friendlier.

And I guess you don't really have to get tables. I guess some people do go upstairs of Cowboys and get the VIP treatment. But I like kind of mingling with the regular folk. But it's a 10-day rodeo festival and at some point they're like why don't we capitalize and turn this into an absolute shit show so there's a few different bars that host parties and and set up tents and cowboys runs for 10 10 uh days and nights straight it is a fucking time i recommend a bachelor party uh trip there for sure how the girls in calgary western

canadian girls are absolutely gorgeous they were they're super friendly it's just a great time i would say at that these tents you're dealing with about 60 guys to 40 women maybe up to 65 men but nonetheless a great time beautiful women you drink your face off and i was i left on sunday i was gonna stay for keigo and then i was like oh no that guy fucking sewered me in my dock so fuck you i ain't staying and uh and i peaced out i was hoping to get up calgary a couple uh well they weren't the players this past season but two years ago one of one of my followers one of our listeners as well he's at the games um and he's like hey dude you want to get on the 50 50 remember the 50 50s are like 250 000 in calgary a couple couple seasons ago so i would paypal him money during the game so i would

have live action on the 50 50 on the playoff game in calgary so i mean i obviously i didn't win but if it ever won like i'd be like yeah i'd fucking fly out to Calgary to pick up $120,000 Canadian or whatever it was. So it's kind of cool to have that fucking option anyways, you know? So a quick 50-50 story is our last game of the year in Vancouver was the Sedins' last game. And at the end of the season, what they do is they pull all the 50-50s that haven't been claimed. And also, it was the city's final game so going into the game i believe it was already at like 300 000 maybe even 400 this thing i think i want to say it ended up at close to 700 000 for a 50 50 i want to say that's got to be the biggest

one in nhl history it's got to be up there i mean it, it's, it's great. That's, that's banana lands. I know. That's what the six 49 walking out of a hockey game with fucking six figures in your pocket. So talking to Johnny hockey, the boys, he's very excited about next season. They've made some really good trades and he, he was, he wasn't going too hard.

He was, he's training pretty hard. He's getting, getting serious. You know, he's growing up. John, Johnny hockey is the man.

I think we're going to get him on the pod pretty soon, but that's pretty much it for the Stampede boys, but some big news out of Montreal, R.A. Yeah, Shea Weber. I mean, he already had one surgery he was recuperating from, and then they determined they had to do another one. The first one, I believe, was on his left ankle, and I think the second was on his right knee. Bottom line is he's not going to be back in the lineup until December at the earliest, and then obviously has to play himself into game shape from there. But, I mean, there was no real rosy outlook for the Canadians, and I'm not even picking on him as a Boston troll, just as a neutral NHL observer.

Nobody was feeling really too well about the Canadians going into this season, and now they're just going to be that much worse having no shape. Weber, just a huge hole in the lineup. There's no way you really replace him. Tough man. Tough, tough loss. And it sucks for, you know, fans of the league. Shea Weber is a great player.

He's the type of guy you love to watch. He's kind of an old school, mean, tough defenseman. Can score on you. Can kind of do it all. So, you know, it sucks for the fans of the league who appreciate a guy like him to watch him play. it sucks for the fans of the league who appreciate a guy like him to watch him watching him play well i mean i guess we could start off with the fact that you know first of all shea weber is the best guy unreal leader uh you know i think everybody was kind of suspect about the trade when it happened looking back on it my only question was when they gave up suban for him

i was like why why was there something not else included I thought Montreal could have probably got either a decently high draft pick or maybe a prospect uh clearly the trade has not worked out in Montreal's favor that kind of put Bergevin on the hot seat to begin with I mean looking at the trade for Galchenyuk for Domi right now I would say there's another one that they've lost right off the hop that people aren't happy about. And then, of course, you're in Montreal, so the media is going nuts. One thing that, just to give people, even our American listeners, an idea of what they're dealing with in Montreal. So the injury was announced by the team on July 5th. So the injury was announced by the team on July 5th. Weber actually had surgery on that knee on June 19th, but they had a press conference about the team on July 2nd,

and they didn't even say anything about it. So come July 5th, everybody's losing their minds that they hadn't already discussed this. Not like it's going to matter, but this is kind of blowing out of control too. That spiraling. Now, R. That's spiraling. Now, R.A., to get to more about Weber, he's got eight years left on his contract. He's got a cap hit of just under $8 million.

I mean, the term is probably the biggest headache moving forward. Yeah, I mean, that was the issue when, I mean, let's not forget, that was the contract he originally signed with the Philadelphia Flyers, correct, on the office sheet? Well, it was offered by the Flyers, and Nashville ended up matching it. Right, right. What was crazy about the deal was how front-loaded it was, and especially with signing bonus. I believe in a 13 month span

he made 27 million dollars right no i know obviously he signed it with nashville but yeah this is in other words it's going back to a 12 to the 12 13 season this is something that people said way back then when when this gets to the end of the last few years of this contract that's going to be a hassle and to be honest with you i'm not sure what montreal's buyout situation will be in a couple years i mean obviously well i'm going to tell you so so i don't know who gets put on the hook for this contract if he uh if he uh retires before it's over i believe it would be nashville who's on the hook for it he's set to make six million dollars in the last four years of this contract total and in the last four years of this contract total. And in the last three years of this contract,

he's set to make a million dollars a year. So 3 million in the last three years. So it was fairly front loaded. This was before they ended up figuring out that that was a bit of a loophole in the CBA. So as far as Montreal paying them, while they'll, they might be off the hook,

but as far as what they gave up well, they might be off the hook. But as far as what they gave up, if he does end up retiring early, just a colossal, colossal mistake by them on that trade. Now, I'm hoping that he recovers from this knee injury and then he comes back and finishes his career nice and healthy and has a decent end to it. Just so he can avoid hearing about this fucking trade for the rest of his life. Christ, I don't even want to hear about it anymore. Yeah, it's just, well, I don't know if it's unfortunate is the word, but just one of those situations where, yeah, he's forever going to be intrinsically linked to P.K. Subban because when a trade like this happens, that's just the way it goes. You know, it's always going to be there.

And as far as we're talking about all the, you know people got to worry about the contract the only one who doesn't have to worry about anything is shea weber i mean he's going to get all that money at one way or the other at the end of the day you know if if i had him on this podcast the first thing i would ask him would be like how fucking sick and tired are you of hearing about this and i would want him to just be candid about it he's got to be so exhausted not amount of money would would uh i would be able to put up with that kind of shit so i don't know my heart goes out to him for that and i wish the canadians nothing but the best moving forward because that's a a fan base that is a very frustrated right now and uh all right i'm going to pass it on to you. Would you want to get more into

the Carlson drama? Yeah, I mean, well, like I said, we got our boy Wits on the ground over there. I mean, it's another thing. I don't even know if it's drama at this point. There wasn't, I guess, an erroneous report out of Ottawa. It was a reporter who never broke a story before. He came out

and said that the deal was pending. It happened. It was pending a trade call. Like two days later, he's like, Oh, I got a bad source. I apologize. So there's nothing further on it. You know, and people forget, there's no time limit. This trade can happen tomorrow. It could happen in two months. There's, you know, there's no urgency for it. I don't know. I mean, everyone thought it was Tampa was a slam dunk, but it doesn't seem like that's happening right now. Nothing would surprise me.

He's been linked to so many teams. It really wouldn't shock me at any point. Do you think he ends up in Vegas? Do you think Tampa Bay? Who do you think is the lead in the clubhouse? Well, Ari, I was going to say a lot of my focus hasn't been on him as far as free agents and potential signings. I've been focusing a lot on Ross Johnson for the Islanders. So do you actually have a list of teams that are still in the hunt for Carlson,

or is it still pretty broad and wide open? I mean, Tampa's the leader in the clubhouse, I'd have to say. Still, Vegas was his prominent team. Mention Grinnelly. Was there anyone else there, too? I know there's been a handful of teams mentioned. No, I just knew that Friedman said the last two teams were Vegas and Tampa were still

in the hunt, and they were still both pursuing him heavily. I mean, all right. I think that's huge for Vegas for the simple fact that they still have a lot of cap space available, and they have a shit ton of draft picks. And also, another major point, well, we haven't

got to it yet. We'll bring it up now, is Kucherov. Nikita Kucherov signed a huge deal, signed an eight-year, $76 million deal. After this season, his salary is going to basically double to $9.5 million a year. So that's something that, you know, Tampa Bay is going to have to take into consideration if they were to try to bring in Carlson. Because Carlson's got one more year left at his current deal, I think $6 a half mil or seven mil. He's going to go up to about 11 mil. So, you know, Tampa's got Stammer at eight and a half, Hedman at 7.875, and now Kucherov at nine and a half. So that's three guys. I mean, they're all under 30. They're all locked up through 2024.

But, you know, if they were to add Carlson at 11 mil to that, you know, Stevie Eisman is going to have to get absolutely creative. But shout out to Kuch for getting paid. All right. Unbelievable transition, by the way. I love how you went from Carlson right to Tampa because we had to talk about the Kucherov signing 44.5 million in bonuses he signed for. He's going to get 76 million over eight years, which is a 9.5 million in bonuses he signed for. He's going to get $76 million over eight years, which is a $9.5 million average salary. They got Stammer locked up for $8.5.

Just to give people outside of Florida an idea of how much an advantage, or I guess outside of states that don't pay state income tax, states that don't pay state income tax is uh you would have to pay kucherov 12 million dollars in california to make what he's making in tampa in new york you'd have to pay him 11 million and anywhere in ontario you'd have to pay him 10.9 so and this is the question i want to ask you are right how do you feel about the league maybe stepping in and making it fair as far as the state income tax is concerned? Because it's such a fucking advantage for some of these teams. Well, that's an interesting point. Yeah, it's something I don't think really gets talked about a lot. It's definitely a selling point for the Florida teams.

Of course, you have to live in Florida, too. Yeah, but the thing is, I'm just picking up. Right. But the communities that these guys are living in Florida too. Yeah. But the other side of the thing is I'm just picking up. Right. But the communities that these guys are living in are, are unbelievable. And Florida's got good weather. I get what you're saying on a huge scale. Florida is just that, that state that every other state makes fun of it's, you know, Florida may like hashtag Florida, man, that joke. No, it's a, it's a beautiful state, but I think the league is kind of really limited in what they can do. I think it's just the, you know, the kind just the vagaries of the tax code and where people live.

Unfortunately, some states get whacked worse than others, and I know obviously when guys play in Canada, that's even a bigger issue because somewhere in Toronto, you get absolutely fucking creamed in taxes. Buy a hamburger at a bar in Toronto. Look at your receipt. There's 17 people getting their cut from you. So I think it's just an issue that it's in pro sports. It's just one of those things that no matter where you play, you just got to pay the fiddler no matter where you are. And if you're lucky to play in Florida, then that's just one of the benefits you get. But I'd like to think it all comes out in the wash. If you play in one place, you know, you might get maybe a better endorsement

deals or something like that. So I don't think there's really a solution if it's really a problem. I just don't know what the league can actually do about it. Hey biz, how much, when guys are signing their contracts, how much do these, do these guys pay attention to that? Well, the reason I say that too, is, is majority of these, these cities where you pay the least amount of tax and I'm going to read them off to you now. Well, the, places are Nashville, Tampa Bay, Vegas, Dallas, Florida, Chicago, Arizona, and then Colorado. And then the list goes on after that.

But not only are those unbelievable places to live as far as weather and just how nice they are, they have the advantage of paying guys less. And guys want to stay there, especially if they have decent teams. Now, Ari, you mentioned the fact about the Canadian teams. Well, based on Kucherov's salary, the three worst teams, as far as what he would net, would be Montreal, Toronto, and Ottawa being dead last. So of that 9.5, he'd be seeing 4.45 million of that.

So basically it's cut in half. And it's, I mean, Christ, I mean, you got to live in fucking Ottawa and then the team's not very good right now. So who the fuck are they going to attract? With the reasons what we're talking about, it's kind of ironic. Those are the kind of the reasons why Quebec had to leave for Colorado and Winnipeg had to leave for Arizona with these kind of similar economic problems that when guys are getting whacked that bad, they don't want to either play there or it's just tough to make money.

Well, R.A., it's tough to make money playing in that spot. You know, it's just a tough situation. I don't think any teams are going to go anywhere anytime soon from Canada, but it's just interesting that there's still economic problems involved with Canadian teams. Well, okay, so you also touched on the fact that they have a lot of money wrapped up in the high-end talent on that team. Tampa Bay's projected salary cap for next season, with just 12 players signed right now

is just under 66 million so right now they have roughly 14 million left for the rest of the guys they need to sign so they're very top heavy you talked about them getting carlson i think the only way that happens is if they give up a a very healthy pick and maybe even a prospect because uh callahan's making 5.8 that's this cap hit at least for the next two seasons and there i would say tampa bay's windows probably about four or five years so they can't be burning years with with with a contract like that on the back end i say fuck it get rid of some picks and and ship that guy out in order to get carlson or at least sign some other good valuable players for depth yeah they're definitely in a win now mode you know they want to strike by the

irons hut and again if i don't have any inkling if they're gonna get uh carlson or not but if they if they were to get them yeah they're gonna have have to make a shitload of moves, dump salary. I know Callahan's a name that keeps coming up. And, you know, their system seems to be so stocked that they have a plethora of guys they can just pull from. I don't think they'd have any problem getting Carlson. It's just, you know, like I said, they'll be very top-heavy after that. They just got to make sure that they fill the rest of their roster out.

And honestly, for a team that hasn't won a Stanley Cup, Tampa Bay certainly gets treated like one. They get respected like a team who's won a cup just because of the way they run their organization. But you think if they got rid of the guys, it wouldn't even affect them just because they're so good, even though I know they flamed out this year in the playoffs. But I don't know.

To me, they're the best contender that hasn't won a cup. It feels like it should happen in a year i i think a major part of this carlson trade that that you guys didn't mention is that vegas would be able to take on bobby ryan's contract and that's something that ottawa is really trying to get rid of well but okay so i was actually going to go the other way with that granelli is if i'm if i'm ottawa they're not going to go the other way with that Grinnelli is if I'm if I'm Ottawa they're not going to be good for a long period of time I'm assuming they're in complete rebuild mode now if I'm them I try to maybe grab one of those young prospects on Tampa Bay maybe point eat Callahan's contract and then get back Carlson who is obviously in the midst of that trade going to sign right away and maybe even a top pick on top of that so you got to start thinking like that as well but

i mean does vegas have anything young that's that's uh good right now that they'd be willing to part with shea theodore i think shea theodore is a defenseman that's name's been thrown around in this. So you're saying Shea Theodore goes back there and then Bobby Ryan and Carlson come over? Obviously, Vegas would probably have to send over a pick as well. Yeah, I heard Shea Theodore and a couple picks would have to go over in a first and maybe a second would have to go over there. So, I mean, I guess it's all speculation right now but i mean that it definitely makes sense more so with vegas with how much salary cap they have left but we'll see if stevie y can pull another rabbit out of his ass and uh all right i'm gonna throw it to you because i don't really know much about this subject

either because i mentioned i've been on the ross johnston uh off ross johnson train for a while here uh panarin what's going on with him in columbus yeah tammy panarin uh he made it clear he does not want to sign a long-term contract extension he does have one more year left on this current deal it's six million dollars he's going to make this upcoming season before he becomes an unrestricted free agent. Again, Columbus approached him to do something long-term. He's not interested in that right now. It seems like he wants to experience unrestricted free agency, which that's what guys play for. You can't be grudging for that. And also, Elliot Freeman, I believe he's on our buddy Jeff Marrick. Well, I hope they're both friends of the show. Jeff Marrick's podcast, I believe he was on, or the Marrick. Well, they're both friends of the show. Jeff Marrick's podcast, I believe he was on the podcast they have together.

And he said that Panarin wanted to be near, quote, a body of water. So I guess Lake Erie, just north of Columbus, isn't up to snuff for a body of water for him. Apparently he means the Atlantic or the Pacific Ocean. I don't know, just drawing conclusions. So, yeah, Panarin, you got gotta think he's trade bait now talking about guys getting traded because if you're the gm of columbus and the guy doesn't want to sign long term there then that's a guy who doesn't probably want to be there after the season so if i'm yamo kika lane and i'm taking phone calls on him right now cool that's yeah that's what i'm saying you

get rid of him now while he's still valuable because he i believe he has one more season under contract with columbus and then he's i mean I think it's pretty evident he's going to take off and and another example of you know it sucks because it's such a good hockey town now that they're relevant again and and it just it's just tough to keep these free free agent guys and the big names there because they want to be in nicer cities and I mean I don't know if uh i don't know if they're going to be able to get something valuable for them before the season starts but uh i guess we'll see see i think in columbus i i mean i've never been there i've heard terrific things about the city i know it's it's a big college town but i think it's just that they they just don't have

like a winning culture there yet i know they're trying to get one and you can only do that by winning uh but i think once they have like a reputation as a yet. I know they're trying to get one, and you can only do that by winning. But I think once they have like a reputation as a team who can actually do something. So they're kind of like Minnesota. Like Minnesota just kind of has a drab reputation. They've never really – haven't had a playoff run in 15 years. So I think if there was a winning culture, then guys would want to go there. So I don't know.

I think Columbus, like I said, I've never been there. I've heard it's a good town. It's a good place to raise a family that type of stuff I just think there's no winning culture there and that's that's the draw that you know the reason why they're probably not getting guys to stay there or want to stay there you know what I found your statement a little critical at first as far as them not being a winning culture but I'd have to lean towards I agree with you although they you know they they had that great year where they played pittsburgh i think in the first round correct or did they get to the second round i think that was two years ago dude yeah asking me in july playoff things i know

i know blends together but yeah no they they had a well the series that bobrovsky played terrible and you know like they had a good a great regular season and then it all went to pot in the first round of the playoffs. So, right. And then, and they, I mean,

they were up to nothing on Washington this year and gave it away. And, uh, I mean, I, I don't, I don't mind their team though. They got,

they got a great backend. They got obviously good, good goaltending, but unproven in playoffs. And they, I mean, they had some solid forward depth, but they're kind of losing that slowly. But they've got a decent wave of young players coming up.

So I guess we'll see. And hopefully that organization and that city deserves it. Hopefully they can trade Panarin and get something valuable back in return and continue their decent success as of late. It feels like they're on the cusp every year. And believe me, like i say i i root for all cities man i i want you know a rising tide lifts all boats you want the league to be healthy and you know they just seem like every year they're on the cusp of it and then you know

this year but bruski blew up again you know like they out in the first round after one of the first two games so you know i it all it takes is one year to change it though and you know once you get that like kind of established culture or whatever then you know you can start drawing guys um just go back to kucherov too once that r.a fact fire 1.20 points per game over the last two seasons only two guys ahead of him conor mcdavid and gino malcolm so he's uh he's been pretty impressive player the last couple seasons so i mean nine and a half sheets we see tamaris got 11 and you wonder like how many guys regret you know maybe guys like bergeron and wayne simmons they signed those you know six seven year deals to guarantee themselves five million dollars and if they only took a you know two three years less they'd be cashing in for eight nine million right now they ended up you

know they got the security but in hindsight they left a lot of money on the table a lot of these well i mean how about i think gino makes the same exact as Sid, who I think are the two best contracts in the league at 8.7777 until the sevens run out. But, no, that's a great point. But speaking of contracts, I wanted to bring this name up because I thought he got hosed. But there might be some, I might be some magic in the making

to potentially sign him longer term during the season. But Patrick Maroon, he got a one-year deal at 1.75. And this is a guy who had 74 games last year. He had 17 goals, 26 assists. And the year before that, he had 27 goals and 15 assists. Of course, the the numbers maybe swayed a tiny bit from playing with connor mcdavid but nonetheless even after getting traded had a decent end to the season helped new jersey get in the playoffs ra how do you feel about that geez um

i would have thought he would have got more money from i don't know if not even longer term for an unrestricted free agent. I mean, yeah, you say his numbers might've been inflated via McDavid, but I would've thought he would've at least got two years somewhere else. If not in St. Louis, I know he's a St. Louis kid. Maybe he took somewhat of a home, a hometown discount there, which apparently he did, but yeah, it's a bit of a head scratch. It just, like I say, it's, you know, he just had a contract year and now he's, he's getting another contract year. I mean, he could certainly give himself a hell of a head scratch. It just, like I say, it's, you know, uh, he just had a contract here and now he's, he's getting another contract here. I mean, he could certainly give himself a hell of a bump and pay if he has a 25,

uh, goal a year, he can get himself a nice payday next year. But yeah, for coming off into UFA status, I was a little surprised that definitely scratching my head over that deal. Well, I mean,

he's going back home too. And maybe this is a deal where he, he wasn't happy with what he was getting other places. And he thought, you know what, St. Louis with the fucking moves they've made, credit to Armstrong there, the GM. I think maybe he's thinking, I go in there for half a season, I put fucking 15 tucks in the net in the first half, and then I get a big, fat, juicy contract back home.

So I hope nothing but the best for that guy, a really good team guy, great guy around the locker room. And, yeah, I mean, I guess we can end on this note, R.A., as far as the hockey talk. Oh, you want one more thing? Sorry. Oh, no, go ahead. I'll follow you on note.

Well, we're going to talk about my boy Ross Johnson with the Islanders getting a four-year deal at $1 million a year. I fucking love when no-namers just get deals out of nowhere. Fucking right. All the credit to him. And his agent, the fucking Hamburglar. Hamburglar. No, I was going to mention, finally, after all this time,

the Anaheim Ducks are going to retire Paul Curry as number nine. He's been out of the league for five years now. It seems like it should have happened already, but they're going to retire his number and also Scott Niemeyer as well. Not to say my two separate nights, but I just want to give a shout out to Curry. He's one of those guys a lot of our listeners grew up watching, certainly playing him in video games. One of the most dynamic players of his era. Unfortunately, he got some, you know, bad concussion issues, had to retire.

So, yeah, I guess better late than never. Again, I thought the Ducks would have already done it. I mean, Tameu Solani got his number retired the next season. You know, those guys ran together for a long time. So, congrats to Correa. Go ahead, Biz. Well, I just – I think that he's one of those guys ran together for a long time so congrats to korea go ahead well i i just uh i think that he's one of those guys that just doesn't really want to be seen and just kind of

wanted to go away and he wants to i guess wants that inner peace uh now a few funny uh paul career stories because fiddler played with him in nashville and uh he said that he would uh chew his food the exact same amount of bites every single time before he would swallow it he was one of those guys that was very particular about everything he did and even on uh on game days he would not climb stairs refused and uh apparently vernon fiddler and his paul creos girlfriend i think he's still with her at the time, she was telling Vera Fiddler's wife that sometimes when they get in an argument on game days, like if they ever got in a little argument, she would just walk upstairs.

And he would be trying to talk to her from the bottom of the stairs. And she would go in the room and close the door. And he would not go up the fucking stairs. Because he was worried about losing his legs for the game. So this guy wanted to give himself every opportunity to have as much success on the ice as possible. To the point where he wouldn't even walk up a fucking staircase, man. That's funny. When we had Kachuk on a couple weeks ago, he actually mentioned briefly playing a career in T.

He goes, oh, talk about a lunatic with his practices. And I actually, I wanted to ask him, but we had we had you know so many other things to talk to him about but he even weeks ago yeah he had kind of routine uh routine fucking crazy practice habits go ahead another one well well there was uh there was two other things he would always put a towel down in front of the stall and do his stretches and he would always come in at the same time always on the in the same routine and uh i forget who the prankster was that the guys were saying but he would always come in at the same time always on the in the same routine and uh i forget who the prankster was that the guys were saying but he would always go like like fold over his towel a little bit just to mess with him and he would come back in and he would never be mad

he was apparently he was such a very a relaxed uh calm guy and uh and uh i mean you everyone saw on that program he was he was i wouldn't say cheap as a word just very conservative with his money apparently he when he was making half a million dollars a paycheck he would only take out five thousand dollars cash for that two-week period and that's all he would spend he wouldn't wouldn't go over that he would pay his car payment he would pay this payment and and he would be good to go all right right, Biz, another thing we talk about is routines, is vaping routines. I don't know what you have been hitting for vapes lately, but, you know, sometimes it's hard to find a satisfying one that's simple and convenient.

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They've got a $1 trial. Go there and get your kit and let us know how it goes. So, anyways, yeah. So, it's nice to see Paul Correa is finally going to get his number retired. Go ahead, Paulie. And last one, a little fun fact. Oh, yeah. We got plenty of Paulie stories.

Go ahead. Yeah, yeah. Apparently, Paul Correa, if you gave him a stick, because he always had a measuring stick for how long a stick would be, you could cut it to where it was off by like a millimeter and he would be able to pick it up and be like yep too long and and and then he would pick it up if you cut a little too short and he'd say too short the and the boys tested him on it and he fucking nailed it every time this guy was the ultimate professional and uh nothing but respect for paul korea and if you haven't seen it it's like the equipment becomes extensions of their like arms and legs kind of right it's almost like they're part of their bodies because they hold on to it so much i mean christ i just had a

hard time getting on my states my feet were so swollen from boozing so much and uh i we quickly maybe touch on the islanders i don't know what the fuck they're doing. They're just kind of giving out these four-year deals to everyone. I know Komarov got one. I don't know. They got Martin back. I mean, obviously not big-name moves in order to help their franchise win anytime soon. And that's nothing against those guys.

It's just they seem to be stacking up on a lot of the's nothing against those guys. It's just they don't, they seem to be stacking up on a lot of the bottom six kind of guys. Yeah, they got a huge hole in their lineup losing Tavares. It's kind of an irreplaceable guy. There's no one you can go out and just plug in the lineup and hope to do what he did. Yeah, it's going to be tough, man. They're already a team that's struggling. They haven't had a goaltender for a few years because the defense has been a struggle. I know they're bringing Lou in, but I don't know how much of a hand Lou had with Toronto. They obviously got lucky with getting Austin Matthews in the draft. So it's going to be interesting to see what happens, man. I agree with Chris Johnston last week. I

think the Islanders should have read the tea leaves better and realized that he probably wasn't going to come back and got something for him but uh it sucks because they are diehard fans they're good fans down there and you know it's fun to make fun of frankie barelli but it does suck for the people who are diehards and you know that there's there's the next few years just don't look good for the man you know yeah that's a lot of pressure on barzell too moving forward especially using johnny t and having such a successful first year now uh we're pretty much done with the talky talk here. And, Ari, I've got to ask you a serious question. Please.

Have you ever been like a feet guy, like in the girls' feet? No. I've never really been a foot fetish guy. I've never really – no, no. Lots of other parts of their anatomy, but not their feet. Okay, so I'm not a huge feet guy either like i don't think girls feet are disgusting or i don't think they're like the creme de la creme but i have a a friend in arizona and she's she's she's cool and uh

she started like becoming like a foot model for guys who have foot fetishes and she's making fucking bank on this yes i've been hearing about this yes and apparently they were talking about it on barstool radio recently and when i sat down had a beer with her i would say it was about a month ago maybe six weeks when i was still in arizona she was kind of giving me the whole like the whole uh routine of how this got going and how she makes money off it. So I wanted to have her on the podcast and I just want to pick her brain for our guests to hear about like, what the fuck these guys are into.

Like they, and apparently some of the things that they're into about the feet, I'm very surprised about. So we're going to invite her on. We're not going to use her name for privacy reasons, but she does want us to throw out her, her special we're not going to use her name uh for privacy reasons but she does want us to throw out her her special handle that's private uh cool name it's called arch bishop and you'll figure out why once we bring her on so uh welcome to the show arch bishop

thank you thank you for having me it's quite a feat getting you here. Oh, shit. Joke man over there. I'm going to resist. We're going to chase her away, all right? Yeah, I took a tow truck over tonight, so don't mind me. So, Arch Bishop, the reason I'm having you on the podcast is because of our conversation we had in Arizona when I was very intrigued by the underworld of foot fetishes and how now women, mostly women, are monetizing it and making some dough off it. Yeah, you know, I'm surprised as well because I didn't really know how deep this was until I started researching it about a year ago. And how did you come across it? Okay, so I've always had compliments on my feet,

but a lot of women do. I never thought it was that deep. And one day, I was in Oregon where you never get to wear open-toed shoes. And I posted a picture on my main page, my regular personal page, of my feet and some sandals. And hey, it's a sunny day. I can't believe it. I can wear open-toed shoes. The next day, I wake up to over 1,000 new followers, and they're all, every single tag of these pages were foot fetish pages. And I couldn't figure out. Somebody had saw my feed on the Explore page or something and then reposted my picture and tagged me, and here they come, all these foot fetish guys. And I've got all these new followers and all these DMs asking if they can buy worn socks,

sweaty socks, and if I can sell them custom pictures. And I was weirded out about it. And I'm like, what? Gross. No. Like, what are you talking about? So I kept getting it. I kept getting these questions.

So I finally decided to research it and see what it was all about. Money, money, money. Well, first of all, the sweaty socks thing. So now you're selling these sweaty socks to men online? So, yes. So to me, while I get to that point, I first started doing custom. Well, I finally started the page. I started doing custom pictures.

They might want my feet in a certain open to a sandal, or I found out it's really not about the pedicure. Cause that's what I always thought it was about. 99.9% of these guys are more attracted to the sole of your feet. So they like, that was the craziest thing I learned about all this. So it has nothing to do with the top. It has to do with RA has to do with the archbishop.

You told me that, that they like the wrinkles in the bottom of the feet yes that is i thought to me yeah it was so for them it's like a forbidden thing it's they most of these guys are so deep in their fetish that they're they prefer that than any other body part they are more aroused by the soles of the feet more so than a vagina or breasts yes yes yes because in the custom when they ask for custom pictures i've put no nudity in my bio they don't care about they don't ask for nudity they don't they don't even ask for nudity all right quick question uh all right have you ever been complimented on your feet in public? Absolutely not. No, no, I don't. I mean, my feet are hideous. I don't have like bunny rubble feet, but they're nothing anybody's going to masturbate.

Okay. All right. If somebody told you that you could make $2,500 a month by posting one picture a day of your feet and the bottoms of your feet, would you do it? Hell yeah. That's what I wanted to ask Archbishop. Now, when you, now, if you said you first start getting like DMs and people sliding, I'm sure that's probably creepy at first. Now, how you said your research. So do you realize, okay, like I can make some serious cash off this. Now what's the process from there?

How do you like vet these guys from, I mean, obviously they're, you know, they're not necessarily weirdos. Everybody has their own peccadillo sexually, and they're no different than anybody who likes other parts of the party. That doesn't make them freaks. I agree. What you're saying is it's not the weirdest fetish in the world. There's people who like getting shit on. Right. And even if it was

a little... Where do you find the comfort level, I guess, with these guys? How do you know, okay, I'm willing to do business with this guy? You asked her about how she monetized it first, so let her answer that. Okay. Well, when I researched it, I would willing to do business with this guy. You asked her about how she monetizes it first, so let her answer that. Okay, well, when I researched it, I would just search the hashtag of Instagram, foot fetish of Instagram, and I started checking out the other foot models. And I'm the only one that makes people pay to follow my page. And everyone else, their page is open, and they pay to do custom videos, Skype sessions.

They pay to do so videos, Skype sessions. They pay to do some war items. There's a whole spectrum of things that I won't do that most of these girls do. So, like, I don't know. Can I say anything on this podcast? Absolutely. About what? Sexual things because this is what's part of it. Oh, you think?

This is all, that's all we talk about. Okay. So a lot of these girls make money off of, so a lot of these girls are married or have boyfriends with foot models. So they'll do a foot job on their boyfriend, and the man will videotape it from his point of view so you don't see his face. So they sell these videos. These guys get off on watching girls do a foot job.

So that's one thing I won't do because I get asked it all the time. So they have a, um, they have a library of these videos in there on their phone. And then these guys buy two or three at a time and they're pre-made videos and then more for custom made videos. And then there's called Joy, J-O-I. It's jerk off instruction. So they want me to maybe put something between my feet or just massage my feet and instruct them on how, when, and where I want them to have an orgasm. I want them to do this and do this and do this and then this. You can't have an orgasm until I say you can. That's another thing I don't do, but these girls do. So the oil massagers and the foot worshiping is where,

if I were to do it to myself, I would sit on and suck on my own toes like I was giving my toes a blowjob. I'm working on that. I'm not quite flexible. So you're working on your basically your yoga skills so you can up the ante to start charging more. That is a lot of guys. They want to pay the models to meet them in person so they can suck on their toes now i won't do that whoa that's like how much how much they charge them for that i don't know what they charge they that's between them and their they don't really because i think

it's pretty competitive um is that considered prostitution i don't i'm not having sex no no it's not really the sucking on the toes i don't really consider that prostitution i don't i'm not having sex no no it's not really the sucking on the toes i don't really consider that prostitution it's like i'm going to a massage parlor yeah and obviously these girls are comfortable meeting up with these guys now one thing archbishop that you told me was you so your account's private and they have to dm you and then venmo you or however the the money to get into your page that's the first step that's for me from me and that's for me to weed out all the nosy people this is only for serious foot guys no nosy person is just going to throw away 50 just to see out of curiosity what i'm doing so only a real foot guy who who lives and breathes at the foot world was

going to it's going to pay 50 just to follow me on a free app. So that's how I keep my personal life separate. Because I sometimes advertise on my personal page, but I just make it so they have to show me that they mean business and they show me that they're really about paying me before we can go to the next step, which I do custom videos. A lot of these guys, they pay me to humiliate them and at first i was i wasn't able to do it now i'm really good at humiliating these guys and they like to be so it's another phase of the fetish world there's different there's so many different levels to it are you going to go ahead all right sorry is this okay is this your career

are you able to make this your career? It's a side hustle. No, it's a side hustle. I have a very code of ethic type of career, and so that's another reason why my page is private, because I don't want to be looked at differently in my other career. Right, right. I mean, man, I am so fascinated by this this industry now what what is the next step for you beyond uh getting more flexible uh to be able to suck because

there's got it's always going to keep getting bigger and the requests are going to come and the dollar values are going to go higher because of these right well i've made i've and i started this early may so it's been what may june j. I've made like 15 grand, over 15 grand. And it's not from the memberships. It's from like these members every other day, they pay for custom pictures, videos, or Skype session. We'll do a Skype session where I have my feet in the camera and they can kind of tell me what they want me to do or talk to them or humiliate them. What's something that you would say to humiliate them? Okay, so. Can you humiliate me? Well, I just tell them, like, you need to lay at my feet. You're not worthy of standing at our level.

You know, like, do you think that I would ever, like, have sex with you or something like that? Like, it's like a mean girl. It's a high school mean girl. This probably really happened to them in a... All right. That might be the funniest thing you've ever said on here. All right. This little piggy went...

Do they make you do the little piggy? Do they make you do the little piggy? I know. Anyone would do that? That's what I would ask for. They call me like master or goddess or queen. They're not allowed to call me by any other name. I have to control the entire situation.

And I tell them that if they want to be my slaves, like, I would make them clean my house in a maid outfit if I were to do that. This is all fantasy. And then I would make them sleep in a cage in my closet. And then if they have an accident while they're in the cage then I'm going to beat their ass you know they're just stuff like that. Archbishop I gotta run this through Grinnell and RA now boys

I know they say no free ads on Barstool but if the Archbishop would like to give Spittin' Chicklets guys a discount to be able to get into her page would you be down to do that archbishop maybe go down from 50 to to maybe 35 if they dm you promo code chiclets i'm down wow look i'm doing god's work over here grinnell you think you think barstool is going to be cool

with that if if if we got a few fans that have foot fetishes oh absolutely how could they not well i mean they do have a rule no free ads i know but i think when it comes to foot fetishes you can kind of bend the rules a little bit okay okay well archbishop you might have uh you might have a few chiclets fans coming at you with uh with 220s in their pocket looking for some i welcome them all that's great i welcome them all. That's great. I welcome them all. I looked down on the beach sand, and there was only one set of footprints, and it was Biz carrying us all. I don't get it.

I don't get the joke. Arch Bishop does. That's all that matters. Footprints in the sand. It's a famous poem. Not a lot of jokes go over my head, Ari. I got this. Learn something new every day.

I got it. That's all that matters, Arch. That's right. Whoa. is there a connection here if uh if rear doesn't have instagram so you can stop flirting with him archbishop you're not going to get 40 bucks out of him i'll be taking i'll take the heel toe express first is there anything else that that you would like to share with with people about this underground world that I think this is harmless fun, to be honest? It is. You know, once I wrap my mind around it and once I created my own formula that works for me, it's actually a lot of fun.

It's really interesting. And most of the Skype sessions I do are from other countries. So I've learned. Yeah. So I'll do. I have a college. One of my best clients is a college student at, he's a law student at Harvard. And he, before class in the morning, he watches my feet for about 10 minutes and gets what he needs and he goes off and has a great day.

Like, it makes me feel good that I've had, these guys had such a good time and a great day. I think that's important to remember is nobody's being hurt here. It's all consenting. Nobody's being hurt. Like I said, it's just, I mean, people go to other sites to look at other things and this is something that, you know, everybody's on board here. So, Hey, everybody's happy. Let's keep everybody happy.

Archbishop, have you had to remove people from following you because they've just gotten a little too aggressive? No, actually the people who are going to pay $50 aren't going to do anything to make lose their money. I've never been disrespected by a follower. People that don't want to pay have gotten a little bit rude, or I've even had a couple of dick pics and whatever.

I just walk them and keep moving. But every one of my followers has been respectful and encouraging, like they always tell me how they much they love my pages the best 50 i've ever spent and you know and so i know i'm doing it right well i got a free membership so you guys did get a free membership you did uh you're grandfathered in well archbishop if these guys don't have any more questions we we just want to thank you for coming on and giving us an inside look at that world. And we wish you nothing but the best moving forward. And R.A., here's a million-dollar idea for you. You're going to meet a girl, or I guess you already got one, and just get her as many nice pedicures as possible.

And then start getting foot jobs. And you're going to have her send them, and you guys are going to split the profit jobs and you're going to have her send them and you guys are going to split the profit and, and you're going to be a millionaire. I am definitely pet. I pet. I curious after this episode, just make sure you document it.

I have to pay taxes on, I'm making so much money that I have to pay taxes. Just make sure you document everything. That's my, that's my last piece of advice. Better call Saul or no Hey, better call Saul. Or no, hey, better call soul. I knew I'd get already with that one.

Well, Archbishop, once again, thank you. And we're going to actually now send it off to Jason LaBarbera. You probably have no clue who that is, but he's a wonderful goalie who I played with actually in Arizona. And we're going to go back to the hockey talk. This interview was brought to you by Burrow. There used to be two options when it came to buying a couch. You have to go to one of those fancy pants places and spend about 17 paychecks for a couch that, you know, you might like, you might not.

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uh the soccer introductions day like the two touch before the game was always i miss that i miss the uh the yandil introduction for that. Yeah, he would get the crowd hyped up, all of us two-touch players. Now, Barb, I think a lot of people will surprisingly know who you are because you played in some pretty big markets. Yeah, I was all over the place. You were fucking all over the place. You never unpacked your bags.

And I guess let's start all the way at the beginning, though. Back to your junior days. You were drafted by the Tri-City Americans in the WHL? No, no, not even close. That's where you played your first two games. No, I was listed by Portland. I made Portland as a 16-year-old. I played in Tri-Cities as a 16-year-old because back then, for whatever reason, you could loan players out.

What? Yeah, man. We had three goalies in Portland that year. So I was 16-year-old with two older guys. And Brian Boucher went to World Juniors with Tri-Cities. And they needed a goalie. So for some reason, I got loaned there for like three weeks. year old with two older guys and brian boucher went to world juniors with tri-cities and uh they needed a goalie so for some reason i got loaned there for like three weeks played a game won a game and then got sent back to portland so i look i look like an idiot because of this loan out rule

because that was the first team listed on your hockey db was tri-city and you played two games for them over apparently Christmas break. So then you spent all your time in Portland with the Winterhawks up in, is it in Oregon? Yeah, it's Oregon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I won a M-Cup there in 98.

Really? Which was juicy. Yeah. We just had our 20-year Memorial Cup reunion in March, man. It was wicked. It was funny to see. I haven't seen a lot of those guys in 20 years, so go back and see some of those guys.

It's funny, even after 20 years, they're all like, most of the guys are pretty much still the same guys as they were in junior, so it was pretty cool. And that was in 1998, 99, or was it the year before that? 98, so 97, 98. Okay, so at that point in time, you were the backup for the winter hawks that's true yep yep and and uh talk about playing junior there that must have been a blast what a fun city oh it was great yeah especially for a small town kid coming from prince george

going to a big city like oregon um you, playing in, you know, a big arena, the Rose Garden, which is in the Motor Center now, the old Coliseum. So we would get, you know, 9,000, 10,000 people every game, you know. So and then the fans down there are unbelievable, too. So for a young kid, it's pretty eye-opening. And obviously, just driving around in a big city, you're like again if you're from a small town you know there's like 10 stop signs and three lights you know but you go to a big city like that and there's highways and there's over a million people oh for sure playing the nhl in junior yeah exactly yeah yeah the only thing that sucked was it was uh it's 21 down there

to drink so you couldn't go out and do anything you couldn't get into too much trouble yeah right Barb you were probably fucking going out to the bars like an idiot do you have a fake ID? do you have a fake ID? not at that point no I did later on when I turned 20 but not at that point no so a lot of getting crushed at the billets

I was still a nerd yeah oh you were a hockey nerd back then yeah man fuck i loved hockey yeah but uh and then it says in your last year junior you got uh you got shipped off to spokane and that must have been a little bit of a change of pace yeah big time so my my 19 year old year i traded at the deadline, and I went from a bad team in Portland to Spokane, who was really good. And it's funny now I look back because Mike Babcock was the head coach and Bill Peters was the assistant coach.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You had Mike Babcock and Junior as a head coach? And Bill Peters as the assistant coach, who's now in Calgary, right? So there was a lot of intensity there. Wow calgary right so it was uh there was a lot of intensity there wow okay so what was babcock as a coach back then because we we have that topic quite a bit in our podcast i'm buddies with babs i'm team babs and i've also i've also never played for him oh man so i i went from portland where we were terrible or i was you know probably the best player getting 40 shots a night and you know not winning any games to go into Spokane where, you know, if we lost two

to one, it was my fault. So he was, uh, he was definitely hard on me for sure. It took, it was, it was a big adjustment. Uh, I remember some of the stuff he, I still to this day, remember a lot of the stuff that he's, that he said to me as far as getting mad at me in practice and stuff, like come over and yell at me about, you know, if I'm – he's like, are you playing fucking dodgeball out here today or what? Like, because I didn't make a save in practice. He didn't like the fact that, you know, I wouldn't take all the pucks out of my net when a new drill started.

So, like, there was maybe a couple pucks, like, lodged way weighed back in the net and i remember him coming skating over and just giving it to me because what kind of goalie likes pucks in the back of their net like you know you're a 19 year old kid you're like buddy i'm a fucking goalie just let me fucking stand up my crease and you you fucking get the pucks yeah seriously i'm like i didn't even see him there so yeah like the little things like that that that's, that I always remember. But yeah, when you played well, he loved you. And when you played okay, he pushed you for sure. Do you think that that had a little bit to do with how he wanted to prepare you for pro hockey?

And do you think that that had helped moving forward? Yeah, the more that I thought about it as it went along, it totally got me more prepared for it. It was really the first time in my whole career in junior where I really had to be accountable for anything. I remember a lot of the talks where I thought I played pretty well. He'd give it to me because he thought the other goalie outplayed me. It's stuff that you never really thought about at that age for sure. It certainly helped me get ready, for sure. Well, I guess let's keep going forward in your career here.

You were drafted by the New York Rangers in the 1998 NHL Entry Draft. Third round pick, 66 overall. And then now you start your pro career in 2000. And that was quite the year, man. You started in the coast with the charlotte checkers it seems as if though that's the way it goes in your hockey db then you were up at humphrey and you actually got to play in an nhl game that year yeah so i made uh out of training camp uh they at that time the rangers had mike richter kirk mclean and uh i was 20 and i made i made their team out of camp.

Mike Richter was hurt at that time. The other two guys that were their American League guys weren't very good in training camp. So I made the team out of camp and was there for the first three weeks. No way. And Kirk McClain, yeah, yeah, it was nuts. Like, Kirk McClain was my favorite goalie growing up.

Like, he played for the Canucks. I was a huge Canucks fan. So I got to back him up for three weeks and then I got posted with a guy all over my wall when I was a kid. Like, it was pretty cool. And then he got – we were in Pittsburgh. It was 4-4 going in third. And they scored four goals in the first ten minutes.

So now it's 8-4 in the igloo. And Yager's got four goals. And Ron Lowell comes down on the bench. That kid, like, get in there. And I'm like, what? I go, what? Like, I didn't know what the heck to do. So I went in there, obviously. The game ended up game ended up eight six like it was a joke the game was

a joke yeah but but i played two saves and didn't get two saves and a and a thousand save percentage is that how you say it as a goalie a thousand yeah that works yeah yeah yeah two shots in 10 minutes it was uh yeah it was funny but that game was a joke you set the tone but so then you you went and developed your game more at the american league level for the better part of the next three seasons uh after that uh all in all in hartford your your last one was a year i believe you won goaltender of the year for the American Hockey League. Yeah, in 03-04, I think that was the year I was goalie of the year and MVP of the league, too. Oh, wow. As a goaltender?

Are you the last goalie to ever do that in the American League? I don't know. That's a good question. I bet you I may be. I don't know. But that kind of set the tone. And that year, this is the craziest fucking thing about that year. So you played four games with the Rangers. Their lineup is – and we need to talk about some of these guys.

And I'm going to list the top scorers all the way down. Bobby Holik, Mark Messier, Alexey Kovalev, Martin Urchinsky, Brian Leach, Matthew Barnaby, Eric Lindros, Peter Nedved, Yarmir Yager, Tom Potey was on that team, Chris Simon was on that team, Anson Carter, who's

a fairly big name, Greg DeVries played there, I mean, Darius Kastoraitis, tell me stories right now. That was unbelievable because they had all those guys, right? So you're like, I was what? I was probably 23 at the time. And you just look around the room and you're like, what am I doing here?

How are these guys? But they were god-awful. They were horrible. Yeah, they had a tough year. Bobby Hulik led the team with 56 points and glenn sander was the coach oh my god so so you guys are sticking the joint out was it was it a miserable atmosphere around all these stars who weren't performing up to what they needed to do well it was brutal yeah but i was a kid like i was so just in awe of everything right

you're just like look around literally looking around the room like practice was brutal, yeah. But I was a kid. I was so just in awe of everything, right? You're just looking around. Literally, you're looking around the room. Practice was brutal because you're like, man, that's Messi. That's Lindros. That's Kovalev. That's Jagr. And I'm like 22 just getting lit up, right? And then it's me and I don't remember Dan Blackburn.

He was like, because all their goalies kept getting hurt. So it was like me and Dan Blackburn or me and UC Markkinen and like they just traded for uh I remember the the first game that they traded for Yager we were in Ottawa and it was four nothing after the first for Ottawa seven one after the second so Markkinen played the first he got pulled I went in i got lit up for three in a second then they went put marketing back in the game ended up nine two and this is the first game that they just traded for yager so they got all those guys and then yager and then the flight right the flight home there's a rumor going around the plane that like say there was losing it and we're going right to the practice ring to skate you know and guys have been you know drinking beers and stuff on the plane and whoa when the plane landed when the plane landed you guys were gonna

go right to the practice so did you get bag skated that was yeah that was where the room were going around on the plane we're like when everyone's like fucking serious like like they're gonna so the trainers had to kind of cover it up as far as like like the lights can't get turned on at the practice ring, yada, yada, yada. They kind of convinced them that it was a bad idea. But the guys were like five or six beers deep on that plane ride home, right? And I was 23 being like, wow, this is crazy. We just traded for Yager and we're going to go get skated now after the game

at like two in the morning. It never happened. It's going to be a mutiny. What was Matthew Barnaby like in the morning yeah it never happened it's gonna be a mutiny what uh yeah what was uh what was Matthew Barnaby like in the room there hi you know it's funny so he was uh my first NHL game that I got like real game that I started he was my roommate on the road in Colorado so it was uh he was good like obviously there's a ton of personalities in there right he was he was always good to me he's a funny guy you know chirpy chirpy chirpy like never never stopped talking

was i mean was it uh was there maybe too much personality because it seems like there's a lot of a lot of guys there who could probably call the shots was it like yeah was there a lot of butting heads you know what i think like from my perspective at that age and even i look back at it now you know i think the problem and it was hard but you know mess was there mess was obviously you know they brought him back to new york he's a legend you want a cup there he's a captain he's all these things and you've got all these kind of and he was 40 something at the time you know you got all these kind of younger guys like lynn ross's the whole leaks and all these kind of younger guys like Lindros and the whole leaks and all these kind of guys, Kovalev's, you know, they in the room like it was messes room. Right. So nobody really wanted to step on his toes.

So there was never that, you know, and the thing was, he was 40 and he, you know, he wasn't obviously as good as he used to be, you know, but nobody wanted to step on his toes. So they just he kind of did stuff, but nobody really got to be themselves. I don't think nobody really got to be like leaders or there's no real identity, you know, cause everyone was just kind of whatever Mark, whatever meth wanted, you know, he kind of dictated the room. Yeah. And it's hard to tell a guy that. It'd be like telling Gretzky what to do.

And it's just like, you just don't do it. You know what? It's probably his last couple of years. Let's let him run the ship and and then we can just move on exactly so that's kind of how it was so it's kind of weird did and then and then after that season it was uh you played one more year with Hartford and then it was uh it was off in 2005-2006 to Los Angeles. Was that a free agent signing? Yeah, so the lockout was in, oh, whatever, 0405. And then I was a free agent and had lots of different teams call me and I had no clue how that worked at the time.

And ended up in L.A., yeah. So was it four years in L.A. or three and a half years in L.A.? And you got to play with Sean Avery in L.A. What was that like? I mean, A like i mean it was good to me like he was fine you know like he he is what he is right like he was he was hard on some guys he was he's definitely have had lots of energy a lot big personality in the room he wasn't certainly wasn't afraid to to chirp guys and maybe kind of went about it the wrong way. But, you know, he was always fine to me. I had no problems with him.

Jesus, Barb. I mean, I'm looking at this list of guys you played with in L.A., too. It seems like every team you went to, you played with, like, older legends who were on the way out. On this team, you were with Jeremy Roenick late in his career. Luke Robitaille. Obviously, Matthias Nordstrom a a legend as a defenseman in la was a captain there for a little bit uh dustin brown was just starting out but like eric belanger uh pavel dimitra was there lubinier viznovsky so like man like you play with some

pretty big names yeah yeah big time and it's funny because i was smart at the time and and uh i always got uh jerseys made so that they could autograph them autograph them for me so now i've got my basement full of all these guys's jerseys so for whatever reason i was on the ball with that and it looks actually pretty good down there but yeah i was lucky to play with a lot of big name guys the problem was was all those teams with all those players we didn't make the playoffs in any of those years yeah i feel like yeah all those i mean luke robitaille that year had 15 goals nine assists jeremy roedig was just underneath him with nine goals and 13 assists so yeah these guys were just getting a little older at the time and it wasn't like it is now where guys like that they were kind of respected on on the way out where they would they kept getting contracts totally yeah no it's so much different now obviously

everyone wants younger guys and back then it was still about you know having veteran players around and in the room and um that was an important thing obviously now it's not nearly as important but yeah it was cool to be around those guys for sure there was a lot of personalities boy it was a lot of there wasn't too many dull moments in there you know i mean craig conroy was on that team um you know i played with rob blake in la like oh jeez camilleri colpitar when he was a rookie dowdy when he was a rookie okay so here's my question to you who who was your favorite uh veteran that has like a huge name like who was like the funniest maybe took you under your wing or took him under his wing sorry who was the one guy that stands out who who's a bit of a clown when i was younger like that in those days yeah

like who was like one guy you're like oh my, this guy's lived up to the hype, even away from the cameras and away from this aura about him? Mike Richter was always awesome. Just a great guy. Just a good person. He kind of took me under his wing a little bit for the little bit of time that I was there. JR obviously always got a kick out of him. He's obviously a personality that had a lot of funny things to stay in the room uh you know maddie norson was a great guy luke robitaille obviously i mean they're all like

pretty good guys you know there wasn't too many guys where you're like okay so did you did you get to experience a rookie party with the la kings yeah i did it was in toronto yeah did you have to pay that time because that was kind of your first time you got in some significant games. Yeah, that was the year. It was me and George Peros. Oh, no way. And Jeff Tambolini. And someone else was a rookie that year.

There was four of us. So, they had five grand. It wasn't too bad. Five grand a pop? And you guys had a fun night out? Yeah, yeah. it was good the best part of all that whole night was uh was avery was dating alicia cutford at the time right and he decided for whatever reason you know what rookie parties are like it's just for the guys

she decided to bring her and her sister to the dinner. We were at whatever, Harbor or whatever that was. You can't be doing that. No. She got shoe checked three times that night. No way. Come on. They were shoe checking. He said, that's ridiculous.

I would never in a million years want to bring my wife or girlfriend into that environment i wouldn't even want them to fucking know about it no it was like everyone was like what the hell like what is he doing like he brought her and his and her sister and then like his buddy and everyone's just like what like what are you doing well smart guy you didn't have to buy her dinner that night she She got the free meal. Yeah, exactly. I don't know how long they stayed. I think after like three shoot checks,

she probably bailed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, I guess the free meal got kind of washed away by the new free pair of shoes you had to get her. Yeah, totally. Oh, man, that was funny.

And then by the time your last year hit hit in in la that's when the the youth movement kind of started they had alizé kopitar was leading the way they had alexander frolov who i i remember him he's not around anymore but dustin brown uh jared stole was there actually patrick o'sullivan was there drew dowy had started coming on the scene. Ted Purcell, Wayne Simmons. So they had some pretty good young guys. People even forget Brian Boyle was there. Yeah, all those guys were rookies when I was there. So it was kind of a turnover because my first year it was Dave Taylor

and Andy Murray and those guys were kind of running the show in L.A. And then they got let go and then Lombardi and Crawford and them came in and then Dean kind of, he saw what was going on and completely did a, you know, a 360 on the whole franchise and, and, and really decided to build within obviously and draft well and develop players. And, and obviously it worked out. And they, all those guys were, were young guy. And you knew. And you knew, especially Kopitar and Dowdy, right away you knew those guys were going to be studs in the league.

Dowdy was on – as an 18-year-old, he always marveled at them, how good he was at not letting things get to him. He could go out and make a mistake and come back to the bench and it was like, whatever, no big deal. Yeah, and Barb, we kind of saw we kind of saw it with all of reckman larson in arizona to kind of compare it where we were like wow this kid's special you could tell right away exactly yeah no and they just they just knew they were good right and it's crazy like you know at 18 to think that you're that good already you know and

i think that's why so many guys now can come into the league and are, are just, they can come in and play and dominate the league at 18, 19, and 20. Cause they just, they just have such a belief in themselves and, and their skill levels is insane. Right? Oh yeah. The total package. And then Barb's after LA, it was off to your home province where you were, you were born in BC or from there. And you got to play for the Vancouver Canucks.

Yeah, that was an unreal experience. Like at the time in LA, I was, you know, I was the starter and I got off to a really bad start and just things weren't going my way. And you're kind of at that crossroads a little bit. You're 28, still trying to find yourroads a little bit you're 28 still trying to find your way a little bit and uh they you know they called me in and said you know we're either going to try and trade you to put you on waivers so you're like oh okay what's going to go

on here and then i always remember ron hexel called me that night and was like yeah we traded you you know so you're down in the dumps and you get the call that you got traded and you're like oh you got traded to vancouver you're like oh wow wow. I grew up a Canucks fan, so it was an unbelievable experience to go there and play in Vancouver and be a part of that, and especially with that group of guys with Luongo and the Sedins. Bud, you've played with some fucking studs. You've played with Daniel and Henrik Sedin. Obviously, Kessa, these guys were a point of gain, the Sedins, that year.

Actually, both of them played all 82, and they both finished with 82 points, obviously. They were right. Alex Burrows had 28 goals that year. Kevin Biexa was probably in his prime. And then Matt Sundin comes over. That's got to be – that's another guy on his way out that you got to play with that's another guy on on his way out that you got to play

with yeah yeah yeah that part that was really cool too obviously like to be uh the one thing I always remember about him is uh we played well his first game back in Toronto and we we played them I think it was a Hockey Night Canada game and uh he scored the shootout winner. So it was awesome. Like he was obviously, he was jacked to be back there and he took care of the boys. What was that? What's that place called?

Music or whatever that play? Oh man, that music, the big club at the time. You guys went there after Matt Sundin scored the shootout winner? Yeah, and he took care of the boys.

It was a pretty good night. Were you single at the time? No. or the boys and it was a pretty good night were you single at the time no ah those are nice to dream about as a single guy where there's so many married guys on the team and you're just going to reap all the fucking benefits of Matt Sundin putting down

his probably his fucking American Express Platinum edition that's got no limit on it oh my god it's hilarious like I remember sitting there with Lawrence Nicolette who was married at the time too American Express Platinum Edition. That's no limit on it. Oh, my goodness. Oh, it's hilarious. Like, I remember sitting there with Lawrence Nicoletti, who was married at the time, too, and we're just watching, and, like, there was just girls lined up to get into our little area.

Like, it was crazy. Well, they used to pay girls $100 a pop to show up there, like attractive women. Really? And they would just – hot chicks would just roam around, and obviously most nights they're probably like oh whatever it's like work but then when like the big boys show up they're like wow i could probably land i could land my my future inheritance or or trigger daddy

or however you want to call it oh yeah big second line of big fish yeah. And you guys had some partiers on that team. Shane O'Brien was there. Yeah, he's a beauty. So he probably brought you to the Rocks a couple times. And then my favorite human in the world, Taylor Pyatt. Oh, man. Old blue eyes. Baby blue eyes. He must have – well, I guess he had a girl at the time, too,

when you guys were in Toronto. So, man, who were the single guys on the team cleaning up at that table? Oh, man, that's a good question. I forget now. It's got to stay in the vault, doesn't it? You know who I guarantee it was? It was Alexandre Bolduc. He was single.

Oh, Duker. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Duker was definitely eating it up. Oh, man. And then Barb's... Then the peak of your career came. The Phoenix Coyotes. For four years, I got to play with you.

Yes. What a time. Rick, what a time. Yeah, yeah. When did you get there again? I think your first year was my first year in 2009, 2010. Yeah, yeah. When did you get there again? I think your first year was my first year in 2009, 2010. Yeah, yeah. I always, you know what's funny?

It's like I always remember when you came in, and I always remember it was like an optional skate or practice or whatever, and there was like five or six of us going on the ice, and you're sitting in the room. Nobody has any idea who you are. You're just going off about whatever, about Pittsburgh, how great that place was. I just remember you went off about some political stuff,

like George W. Bush. You still hadn't introduced yourself to anybody. Everyone's looking around the room like, who is this guy? Where did he come from yans tells a story all the time about how i came in way too hot and uh few things i want to talk about you and yans were hardcore buddies especially regarding the the wrestling stuff and you guys used to watch all those uh hardcore uh old school wrestling videos with like undertaker and Royal Rumbles.

How do you feel? How do you feel about where the where wrestling's at today? You know what? It's I still watch it now. I mean, my my my seven year old loves it. So we hang out and watch it lots. It's it's such a corporate thing now. Like there's there. It's a billion dollar industry right now.

It's crazy how big and popular it is. It's, I still enjoy it. It's still entertaining to me. I don't watch it as much as I used to, but it's still, I still get a kick out of it. It's fun,

especially when there's, you know, WrestleMania is around the corner, SummerSlam is coming up soon, things like that. You pay more attention to it, but it slams coming up soon. Things like that. You pay more attention to it, but it's fun for me now. Cause like I said,

my seven year old loves it. So it's, uh, I still, my wife gives it to me all the time about watching it still, but yeah, whatever. Well,

we had a fun team back then. A lot of guys were, got more involved in wrestling because you guys kind of stuck that up. And, uh, another one of your, your fun teammates. And I want you to tell the story.

You were a big fan of Donor, although you guys did battle a lot at the two-touch because he would lie a lot about the results, but I want you to tell that story about the night I almost had to back up as a goaltender when we were in Chicago.

Oh, man. Tell the story about how you had this routine and, and, and all of it and how it all fucking went South. Well, I didn't play hardly ever. So I had to do something in warm just to keep myself occupied without getting bored.

So don't, don't know how I developed this routine when you're doing the half moon towards the end of the warmup, I'd be off in the corner, and I think it was Briz at the time was the starting goalie. Donor would shoot pucks at me. I'd catch him and

shoot him back to him. So it just kept us both kind of engaged in the warm-up. For whatever reason, the one time in Chicago, I wasn't watching. I wasn't paying attention. And he used to fucking wire clappers though. Like we're talking. Oh yeah.

You ripped them. Yeah. Don't donor doesn't have a soft, anything. And I'm like, everything with him is like thousand percent. So it's hard. Everything he does is hard.

And, uh, he ripped one and I wasn't watching and it just, it hit me in the throat. And I literally buckledled like instantly just went black. And, uh,

I was like, what the, like, I had no clue what happened. No idea that I got hit with a puck and no idea. And, uh, yeah,

honestly, like he, he obviously panicked and, and like it scared him and he helped me kind of get off the ice. And I went, I always, I always stood beside him, barbs.

And I just saw you go down on the court of my eye your knees buckled and i i was like what the fuck just happened to barbs and then and then doner didn't answer me he just put his head down and skated towards you like like he just lost his puppy and and then i i kind of put two and two together i'm like oh my god i think he got him but he wasn't and you you ended up getting, did you get stretchered off? Yeah, I had to go to the hospital. So they had no backup for that game. So yeah, you could have gone in there if Riz pulled the chute.

So yeah, so Riz Golov was starting that night and they were talking to me about potentially having to put your gear on. Because at that time, I don't think the NHL was as prepared with the people, the goalies in the crowd. No, no no not even at all so i was so pumped i thought i was gonna get my first ever game in net oh my god that'd be unbelievable i'm just happy you're not dead yeah i i was too i was too i remember calling my wife in the ambulance and she just started bawling because she didn't know what was going on. I'm like, oh, I'm okay.

I had to get a CT scan just to make sure nothing crazy had happened so I could fly that night. And Barb, you played a couple more seasons after leaving the Coyotes. You played in Edmonton a little bit. You went to Anaheim. You were in the American League and eventually called it quits in in 2016 um a great career you got to be happy with that yeah really good yeah i was super lucky to play as long as i did i mean the last three years were a bit of a goat rope as far as the amount of teams

i played for the amount of times i was up and down but i was lucky to always get a you know get a contract in North America and play over here for my whole career. Sixteen years, man. Like you said, you list off a lot of those guys. Lucky to play with a lot of unbelievable players, a lot of Hall of Famers, and a lot of good people. A lot of, you know, met a lot of great guys along the way,

so it was pretty good. And, man, everyone I talk to loves you. You were an unbelievable teammate. What are you doing now? I know you're coaching a little bit. Yeah, last year I've been with the Calgary Hitmen, so my first year I was just a goalie coach, and then last year I was an assistant coach and a goalie coach.

So I was on the bench for every game and part of helping with the penalty kill and doing the five-on-five pre-scout stuff and on the road all the time, practicing and doing all that stuff, obviously taking care of the goalies. Been lucky to do two Hockey Canada tournaments, so I did the under-17s for Team Canada Black, and then that was in November,

and then I was in Russia for the under under 17s for team canada black and then that was in november and then i was in russia for the under 18s um for that and then the helenka tournament's coming up here right at the right start of august i guess so in a month and i'll be a part of that too so i've been super lucky for sure and and to be a part of all that because it's been uh it's been pretty fun well yeah and you get to call Calgary home now, a beautiful Canadian city. I'm actually headed there. You have a charity golf tournament that you host. I'm heading to it. Tell us about it.

Yeah. Thanks for coming, Matt. It's pretty awesome. My wife, Codette, she's a maniac. She's super involved with a lot of different things. And this is the second year she's done a golf tournament in Calgary here with the breakfast club of Canada. So we got introduced to it by Carrie and Ange Price.

It's a, it's a cool program. Like it's, you know, schools apply for it. And well, essentially what they do is they, they,

they, they feed kids breakfast in the morning. So a lot of schools, you know, a lot of kids don't have – their parents just don't have money or they just come from tough places and they don't feed the kids in the morning. Breakfast Global Canada will come in and feed these kids breakfast in the morning so they have full bellies to take on their day. So it's a pretty cool thing.

I think there's 30 or 35 schools in Calgary that are in the program, which, you know, I think of Calgary as a well-off sort of city, and there's a lot of places that aren't so well-off. So it's awesome, and Kodak does a great job with it. She goes out in the morning sometimes and helps them cut fruit and make breakfast for the kids and stuff and it's a cool thing so yeah the tournament's on Thursday and it'll be fun

I'm very excited and then not only that good cause for Cherry then we get that little fun afterward getting over the Stampede Yeah well you guys have a good timing because Stampede starts this weekend so the next 10 days here in Calgary get a little hectic,

a little out of hand at times, but Stampede's always good. Have you been up here for Stampede before? I've done it once, and it is insane. That was a year where the two guys were crushing the girl in the alleyway and it kind of went viral. That was the same year. People were asking me if I was one of the guys because I was posting that I was there. No, i was a good boy that weekend yeah it's a good it's a good time

man it's a really good time especially too because the weather usually gets really nice during that week so uh it's uh it's a good time barbs uh we we want to thank you for coming on and uh you're always as i mentioned a great teammate now before leave, is there one story that you could tell about one of these legends you played with that maybe we would have never heard before that they wouldn't be upset that you told on the Spit and Chicklets podcast? Yeah, the one who I always have that was always funny to me was one with Jeremy Roenick. It's like he was obviously a personality. He always liked to have was one with uh it's a fight with jeremy roenick it's uh like he he was obviously a personality like he always liked to have a good time right so you know in la we had andy murray and andy's you know pretty strict and intense sort of guy and i think we had lost four or five games in a row or something it was you know tough sledding at the time and

we were on the road i think jr had enough of everyone feeling sorry for themselves so he i've never seen anybody do this before but he he uh you know he was like 38 years old at that time he goes so we're we finish the game we're sitting on the tarmac and he goes to the front of the plane with this cardboard box and i can only imagine what the staff was thinking when he got to the front of the plane, and he sits in this little box, and as the plane takes off, he comes flying down the aisle in this little cardboard box, like a slide. Like, it was ridiculous, and he'd do it every once in a while, and he did it that one time, and it was, like, priceless watching. He was like a little kid sliding down the aisle in this box as the plane took off.

Oh, my God. I don't know how he didn't hurt himself. Did he start where the coaches were sitting? Yeah, he went all the way to the front and just raked down from the front of the plane all the way to the back of the plane. See, I feel like that's the stuff that hockey will never hear or see again. And that's why I love having you, I don't want to say old guys, but the, the older guys on the podcast. Guys were,

guys weren't afraid to do that stuff. Hey, like now they are. Oh yeah. It's fucking the personality is gone, but Barb's, uh, that was a nice little,

uh, nightcap for the podcast. Once again, thanks for coming on and I'll be seeing you in a few days here. Sounds good, man. Thanks. looking forward to seeing you again well big thank you to jason the barba for coming on and uh unbelievable guy probably the the most normal goalie i've ever played with just uh other than his fetish for wrestling a lot of fetishes this episode yeah speaking of fetishes well episode. Yeah, speaking of fetishes. Well, thanks to my boy R.A. for holding the fort,

and Whitney, that scumbag, oversees on his luxury vacations, flying PJs to different fancy golf courses. But he will get that interview with Eric Carlson, and that's when we're going to get our numbers up boys so all in all great episode great seeing you guys and boys actually next week I'll be recording live in Vancouver with Biz so we'll be recording

live from Vancouver that is correct nice yeah you guys are going to have a little fun out there so that was fun Archbishop that was an interesting interview something to mix it up some is a long time and you know there's only so much hockey we could talk about. We like to bring a little something different for the

listeners out there and that's what we did this week. And I got you guys a discount code. Don't forget. Want to go follow. It's actually Arch's Bishop. So A-R-C-H-E-S B-I-S H-O-P-H-E-S-B-I-S-H-O-P.

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